# Gil's Arena BATTLES Over Their Top 5 Active Point Guards

An episode of [Gil's Arena](https://invisiblenetwork.ai/podcast/1689097415), 6 Mar 2025, 2 h 40 min.

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Gil's Arena BATTLES Over Their Top 5 Active NBA Point Guards as Gilbert Arenas & The Gil's Arena Crew react to Kendrick Perkins' insane list of his top 5 current NBA PG's consisting of Shai Gilgeous-Alexander, Jalen Brunson, Steph Curry, Luka Doncic and Cade Cunningham and get into a HOSTILE debate over their personal rankings. They then react to Giannis Antetokounmpo's HISTORIC night where the Greek Freak surpassed 20,000 career points, cementing his NBA Legacy and sparking an interesting debate on if Giannis' greatness is being taken for granted. Next, they discuss Stephen A Smith flip flopping on the NBA Goat Debate as the legendary journalist officially placed LeBron over Jordan after LeBron's 50,000 Point milestone and react to Los Angeles Lakers Governor Jeanie Buss taking a shot at Anthony Davis in her first comments since the Luka Doncic trade, sparking a debate over if Davis was unfairly treated during his Lakers tenure. Finally, they break down some big games from last night's NBA Slate as the Boston Celtics flexed their depth and cemented themselves at the top of the NBA thanks to an historic performance from their corner boys in Payton Pritchard & Derrick White and James Harden turned back the clock with a vintage 50 piece to carry the Los Angeles Clippers before giving a March Madness Preview and discussing the best move for the presumptive #1 overall pick Cooper Flagg as he sets his sights on the NBA but may get stranded on a bad team like the Washington Wizards or Utah Jazz. Please give us a like and subscribe!!! Gil's Arena Crew - Gilbert Arenas, Josiah Johnson, Swaggy P, Kenyon Martin, Rashad McCants & Brandon Jennings Gil's Arena Merch is Available NOW at https://gilsarenamerch.com/ Sign up for Underdog Fantasy HERE with promo code GIL and get up to $1000 in Bonus Credits and A FREE Pick: https://play.underdogfantasy.com/p-gil's-arena USE Code GIL10 for 10% off tickets on SeatGeek https://seatgeek.onelink.me/RrnK/GIL10 SUBSCRIBE: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCAvjYgmwadC682OoC4Cc6TQ Join the Underdog discord for access to exclusive giveaways and promos! https://discord.gg/underdog Stream Josiah's Film "Memes & Nightmares" Available NOW on Hulu and Disney+ 2 Min Timer – 0:00:00 Show Start – 0:01:59 Gil Challenges The Arena To Shoot – 0:05:44 Gil Wins The Shootout – 0:14:57 2v2 Rematch – 0:17:06 Back In The Arena – 0:21:13 Giannis Is The NBA's Most Slept On Superstar – 0:28:54 Who Deserves The Credit For The Bucks Turnaround – 0:48:56 Kenyon Calls Cap On The Bobby Portis Suspension – 0:52:33 Gil's Arena Names Their Top 5 Active Point Guards – 0:58:54 Stephen A Flip Flops On The Goat Debate!! – 1:17:58 Jeanie Buss SLAMS AD On His Way Out – 1:51:14 The Celtics' Corner Boys Show Out – 2:05:55 Kenyon Drops Off Fresh Ribs – 2:15:12 James Harden Drops A Vintage 50 Piece – 2:17:22 MostlyFans – 2:30:49 Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

## Transcript

[0:01] Speaker 1: Welcome back to Gills Arena, presented by Underdogs. Woo! Woo!
[0:07] Speaker 2: Last show of the week. Most of us showed up
[0:09] Speaker 2: on time. Minus our namesake.
[0:14] Speaker 1: Okay. We're getting Mignon. Okay, Jelly Bean. Mignon. The fool.
[0:21] Speaker 1: Jelly Bean.
[0:22] Speaker 3: Shout out, 2 Chainz, Larry Jones.
[0:25] Speaker 2: You a Lakers fan again, Shop?
[0:27] Speaker 1: I am.
[0:28] Speaker 2: You back?
[0:29] Speaker 1: I am. Okay.
[0:30] Speaker 2: You and Stephen A.
[0:31] Speaker 1: yes.
[0:34] Speaker 2: Current Lakers or just the franchise as a whole?
[0:38] Speaker 1: Hold on. So who the Knicks play? Who they play tonight? Lakers. Wow. Oh,
[0:45] Speaker 1: he's trying to jinx it. I see it. Oh. I
[0:49] Speaker 1: see the jinx. We getting Monion. I see the jinx.
[0:52] Speaker 3: We getting Monion. Two chains up. Underrated rapper of all time.
[0:57] Speaker 3: He said we getting Monion tonight.
[0:59] Speaker 1: Two chains?
[1:00] Speaker 2: Two chains.
[1:01] Speaker 1: Mignon.
[1:02] Speaker 2: We do have a big Knicks-Lakers game this evening at
[1:05] Speaker 2: the Staples Center.
[1:06] Speaker 3: It's time to switch sides. Everybody else switches sides. Why
[1:09] Speaker 3: can't I switch sides? I don't know. You might be
[1:11] Speaker 3: trying to.
[1:12] Speaker 2: When you wear a Lakers jersey, that doesn't bode well
[1:13] Speaker 2: for us. What you mean?
[1:14] Speaker 3: This is not a Lakers jersey. It's the Lakers jersey.
[1:18] Speaker 3: That's the greatest Laker ever.
[1:19] Speaker 1: What? This is not a Lakers jersey. For sure.
[1:23] Speaker 2: Well, this is Gills Arena presented by Underdog. Uh, we
[1:26] Speaker 2: do not have Gilbert Arenas in the arena right now,
[1:28] Speaker 2: but we do have.
[1:29] Speaker 1: Man, that's empty.
[1:30] Speaker 2: The rest of the crew.
[1:31] Speaker 1: My dog. My dog!
[1:34] Speaker 2: His shoes, Gil. But on this side of the couch,
[1:37] Speaker 2: we got NBA champion of the world, Swaggy P.
[1:39] Speaker 1: Nick Young! On time for Gil's Arena, presented by Underdog
[1:44] Speaker 1: Woop Woop.
[1:45] Speaker 2: Also on time for Gil's Arena, presented by Underdog Woop Woop.
[1:47] Speaker 2: Representing Tough Crowd, Tough Crowd University, Mr. B. Brandon Jennings.
[1:53] Speaker 2: You got a job interview today?
[1:54] Speaker 1: Yeah. Classy man. Are you upgrading on me? Classy man.
[1:58] Speaker 1: Little Brooks Brothers. Little Brooks Brothers? So you trying to
[2:01] Speaker 1: get an interview too? The Brooks Brothers. You trying to
[2:05] Speaker 1: get on ESPN too? Another interview. That's what we doing? Uh-huh.
[2:09] Speaker 1: I'm the classy man. Greater director role type interview. Uh-uh.
[2:15] Speaker 2: On this side of the couch, we got the bully
[2:18] Speaker 2: from Oak Cliff, former number one pick, Canyon Martin. Back
[2:22] Speaker 2: in the arena. Never fugazi under any stretch of the imagination.
[2:29] Speaker 1: Never. Unfugazi. I got the wrong one.
[2:35] Speaker 2: Now we got a squad. It's all good. We have
[2:37] Speaker 2: your back. This is Gil's arena. Don't bother nobody, man.
[2:42] Speaker 2: Kenya brought some ribs to the arena today. If you
[2:44] Speaker 2: watched the show yesterday, you know that Gil freezed the
[2:46] Speaker 2: ribs that Kenya previously brought about seven, eight months ago.
[2:50] Speaker 2: Still eating them to this day. which may be the
[2:53] Speaker 2: reason he's not on the set right now.
[2:55] Speaker 1: Man, that brother's starving.
[2:58] Speaker 2: And last but not least, we got the man known
[3:00] Speaker 2: as Cemetery Larry, Rashad McCants, back in the arena. Wearing
[3:05] Speaker 2: the jersey of the greatest Laker of all time, shot,
[3:08] Speaker 2: as you may know, moved over to the Knicks.
[3:10] Speaker 1: Can you see it? Why you ain't got my jersey? Huh?
[3:12] Speaker 1: Why you ain't got my jersey? You ain't give me
[3:15] Speaker 1: the jersey.
[3:17] Speaker 3: You don't pass the peas, you don't sign the jerseys,
[3:19] Speaker 3: you don't do shit. You don't even fucking text back, nigga.
[3:23] Speaker 3: Do you not text back?
[3:25] Speaker 1: Yeah. I got kids, man.
[3:27] Speaker 3: All these awkward-ass relationships with my coworkers. My coworkers don't
[3:31] Speaker 3: fucking text back or nothing.
[3:33] Speaker 1: You have kids. Uh-oh. Hell no. Come on. What? Come on.
[3:40] Speaker 1: Come on. Come on. It is Thursday. Y'all said you.
[3:44] Speaker 1: You called me out. It was after the show. No,
[3:47] Speaker 1: it's never after. Oh, you're sweating. You're already in a
[3:50] Speaker 1: full sweat. No, no, no. Y'all go upstairs. I'll be
[3:53] Speaker 1: up in a second. I mean, he did ask. Y'all
[3:55] Speaker 1: be up in a second. Money on the line. Y'all
[3:58] Speaker 1: don't even look ready. No warm-ups either. No warm-ups either. Yeah.
[4:06] Speaker 3: Call the boys on guard.
[4:10] Speaker 1: What is that, one and a half? We will be
[4:11] Speaker 1: up in a second. Little Penny. I know y'all, I
[4:20] Speaker 1: bet you did. You're looking all good, dude.
[4:21] Speaker 4: Look at you.
[4:23] Speaker 1: That's fine. That's fine. We got a lot cracking in
[4:25] Speaker 1: the arena. We'll get back to that once we get
[4:27] Speaker 1: down on the court. If you want to get your
[4:29] Speaker 1: bread up.
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[5:07] Speaker 2: to the partner pack when we.
[5:08] Speaker 1: Do all that.
[5:10] Speaker 2: Ah, fuck it, let's go upstairs. Let's see what they
[5:11] Speaker 2: talk about up there. Let's see what they talk about.
[5:13] Speaker 1: Can you?
[5:14] Speaker 2: I might get me a rib before we go though.
[5:21] Speaker 1: Girls Arena crew getting ready to go. We mobile. We
[5:25] Speaker 1: are mobile. Highly motivated. Let's go! Ready to get it.
[5:30] Speaker 1: Ain't nothing to it but to do it! The baby
[5:34] Speaker 1: was sleeping on my shoulder, man. Oh, the baby was asleep? Yeah,
[5:37] Speaker 1: my shoulder was.
[5:39] Speaker 5: I fell asleep when I'm in my own arms.
[5:41] Speaker 1: My shoulder kind of messed up. Nick Jr.
[5:43] Speaker 2: Too big to be sleeping on you.
[5:45] Speaker 1: Fat-ass Najee too big, too. Who? Najee, the new one. Oh.
[5:49] Speaker 1: Nigga fat as... Najee Muhammad? All right, so where we
[5:51] Speaker 1: got to shoot from? Right here? Yeah, you know where
[5:53] Speaker 1: it's at. Oh, yeah, we got that. 0-1. Nah, we
[5:56] Speaker 1: got that. Oh. All right, so who going first? I
[5:58] Speaker 1: need somebody to, uh... I guess it's out of us tops.
[6:00] Speaker 2: Yeah, this is the ball I love.
[6:01] Speaker 1: Can we shoot for who first?
[6:04] Speaker 2: Arena, Gil has challenged the crew to a shooting contest.
[6:08] Speaker 1: Can we shoot for who first?
[6:08] Speaker 2: Except for me and Kenya, because he respects us. He
[6:10] Speaker 2: don't want to get his ass busted.
[6:12] Speaker 1: All right, I missed. Uh-oh.
[6:13] Speaker 2: They're getting warm right now. Gil got his vintage Adidas
[6:19] Speaker 2: pros jersey.
[6:21] Speaker 1: What y'all doing? Oh, oh, oh. No, I pick.
[6:26] Speaker 3: Gil picks right now in the arena.
[6:28] Speaker 1: I'm last. But I pick, right? Okay, but me and
[6:31] Speaker 1: Rashad got it. I'm cool. I'm third. Pass the peas.
[6:35] Speaker 3: As the young kid said, I will not be making
[6:36] Speaker 3: any passes today because y'all hated last time.
[6:39] Speaker 1: Y'all can get your own rebounds. We're going to rebound four. Wait, wait, wait, wait. Shai,
[6:47] Speaker 1: you can pick your rebound. I'm going third. But I say,
[6:50] Speaker 1: if I did... And if we did get pulled over...
[6:53] Speaker 1: Ladies and gentlemen, we are in Gil's Arena. It is
[6:56] Speaker 1: a Thursday here in beautiful Woodland Hills, California. Gil's Outdoor
[7:00] Speaker 1: Court about to get a shootout going.
[7:02] Speaker 3: Y'all loved the shootout last week.
[7:05] Speaker 1: 0-1. Uh-oh. It has already commenced. 0-2.
[7:10] Speaker 6: Hey, man, you should have won a 24. Kobe 8
[7:13] Speaker 6: didn't shoot threes a lot. He didn't really shoot threes
[7:15] Speaker 6: like that. One for three shot. Unfazed by Gil's trash talk.
[7:19] Speaker 1: I'm just saying. Unfazed. You know what I mean? One
[7:22] Speaker 1: for four. Uh-oh. Uh-oh. Oh, damn. They got Brandon running around.
[7:25] Speaker 1: They got Mr. B running around the court. Yeah. No warm-ups, though, man. 2-5. 2-5.
[7:32] Speaker 1: I didn't warm up. You sweating. Huh?
[7:34] Speaker 3: 3-6.
[7:35] Speaker 1: Go get back. Who's sweating? Who's sweating? Get back. Three six. Oh,
[7:39] Speaker 1: three seven. I got three more shots. Don't touch it.
[7:41] Speaker 1: Don't touch it.
[7:41] Speaker 6: I wasn't touching it. Do not touch the ball, Gil.
[7:45] Speaker 6: First of all, why are you hyping him? You in
[7:47] Speaker 6: this contest, too?
[7:48] Speaker 1: With the Brooks brothers. 3-9. 3-9. 3-9. With the Brooks brothers. 4-10.
[7:54] Speaker 1: That's rookie Kobe. Shot 6 for 10 last week. 4
[7:59] Speaker 1: for 10. No warm-up, though. It's real cold. It's real cold.
[8:02] Speaker 1: You know what I mean? You want a rebound for me?
[8:05] Speaker 1: Would you like me to rebound for you? No, no, no.
[8:07] Speaker 1: Leave her. Leave her. No, I won't leave her. Y'all
[8:09] Speaker 1: was complaining last time.
[8:12] Speaker 2: Mr.
[8:12] Speaker 1: B up with the Brooks Brothers. Oh, one. With the
[8:16] Speaker 1: Brooks Brothers. Ooh, one, two. Oh, one, two. Pretty shot, B.
[8:21] Speaker 1: Brooks Brothers, B. Two for three. Brooks Brothers, B. Two
[8:26] Speaker 1: for three. Three for four. Uh-oh. You see it. No warm-up.
[8:31] Speaker 1: He's locked in. Shoot it, B. Three for four. Ooh,
[8:33] Speaker 1: three for five. Five more shots. He's so serious. See,
[8:37] Speaker 1: that's why you so serious. 4-6.
[8:41] Speaker 2: Mr. B, 4-6 right now. Improve upon last week.
[8:45] Speaker 1: Damn! Close the window! Come on, dog. You hit him?
[8:48] Speaker 1: You can't hit him, dog. You can't shoot like you shoot.
[8:51] Speaker 3: You can't shoot like you shoot, my nigga.
[8:54] Speaker 1: You did that when I was shooting. He did that
[8:56] Speaker 1: when I was shooting. He just did this. So did
[8:58] Speaker 1: we count it or not? We counted or not? Yes, yes. 5-8. Fuck.
[9:03] Speaker 1: That's some bullshit. 5-8. As soon as he got ready
[9:07] Speaker 1: to shoot, he released it. 5-9. I was almost up
[9:09] Speaker 1: over here like this. You wouldn't look. And, Gil, when
[9:12] Speaker 1: you're at the bowling alley, you came around at the
[9:13] Speaker 1: same time.
[9:13] Speaker 3: 5-9.
[9:15] Speaker 1: We did this shit on purpose. 6-10 for Mr. B.
[9:17] Speaker 1: Matching his total from last week. Bro, you saw that, right?
[9:20] Speaker 1: Thank you. Go ahead, Gil. 6 for 10 is the
[9:23] Speaker 1: number to beat. And you've been training. I've been training. Hey,
[9:26] Speaker 1: don't rebound. Nah, that's water. Oh, okay. 6 for 10,
[9:30] Speaker 1: the number to beat here in Gil's arena. You got
[9:32] Speaker 1: damp skin.
[9:33] Speaker 3: Another week, another shootout. Yo, shoot. This shit is so weird.
[9:41] Speaker 3: Swaggy has been named the rebounder for Gil.
[9:44] Speaker 1: His 10 shots. How you want it? No ditty. No
[9:49] Speaker 1: ditty on a Thursday. No ditty Thursday. Did you get
[9:53] Speaker 1: to redo that shot? No.
[9:54] Speaker 2: No ditty Thursdays, ladies and gentlemen.
[9:56] Speaker 1: 6-10. 6-10. Yeah, I didn't get to redo, so come on.
[10:00] Speaker 2: You stalling now, Gil.
[10:01] Speaker 1: Yeah, he did give him a redo. No, he didn't. No,
[10:04] Speaker 1: he didn't. They said it was no redo.
[10:05] Speaker 6: He was four for seven if he missed it in.
[10:08] Speaker 3: Yeah.
[10:08] Speaker 1: Because you did it to me, too. And he went
[10:10] Speaker 1: six for ten. I went six for ten.
[10:11] Speaker 2: You did it to me, too. He went six for ten.
[10:12] Speaker 2: He was four for seven, went six for ten, Gil. Six,
[10:14] Speaker 2: the number to beat currently.
[10:15] Speaker 4: Should have been seven for ten, but you know you
[10:17] Speaker 4: like to cheat.
[10:18] Speaker 1: I'm sorry, my bad. Airball really negative. Oh, that's just
[10:21] Speaker 1: a bit outside. Airball really negative. Did you see him
[10:24] Speaker 1: shoot the ball while I was shooting? Oh, one. One, two.
[10:26] Speaker 1: All that shooting, man. For our show's namesake, Gil. I
[10:29] Speaker 1: know I am. Bird arenas. One, two. Look at that pass. Two, three. Three, four. Damn!
[10:39] Speaker 1: Nothing's about to do it. Oh, four, five. Damn! She's
[10:45] Speaker 1: trying to come for my throne. Five, six. My shit
[10:50] Speaker 1: a little rusty. I ain't going to lie. I ain't
[10:53] Speaker 1: going to make a shot probably.
[10:55] Speaker 3: I had a wild night last night.
[10:59] Speaker 1: 5-7.
[10:59] Speaker 3: My back ain't really moving right. 6-8. Gil has tied Mr.
[11:05] Speaker 3: B with two shots remaining.
[11:06] Speaker 1: There we go. There we go. You got to put
[11:08] Speaker 1: the mojo on him or something. Goddamn. Yeah, like that. Ooh, 7-9.
[11:13] Speaker 1: Gilbert unfazed. The current leader. 8-10. 8-10. Swaggy, you shooting
[11:20] Speaker 1: or we going Swaggy versus Gil? Last week's winner versus
[11:23] Speaker 1: this week's winner. I got nothing. Bro, I didn't even
[11:26] Speaker 1: know where the range was. Hell no!
[11:29] Speaker 2: Last week's winner versus this week's winner. Last week's winner, so.
[11:32] Speaker 1: It's a big challenge. Come on, Nick. Come on, Nick.
[11:34] Speaker 1: Let's go.
[11:34] Speaker 3: I'm taking my talents to South Beach.
[11:48] Speaker 1: Come on. Last week winner versus this week's winner. Come on, Nick.
[11:52] Speaker 1: Now that I know we're doing this every Thursday.
[11:55] Speaker 5: Just because I want some more ribs, I'm going to
[12:01] Speaker 5: listen to you today.
[12:02] Speaker 1: Yeah. You want some more ribs, ladies and gentlemen. Kenya
[12:05] Speaker 1: came through. Bless the Gills Arena crew. With a fresh
[12:10] Speaker 1: slab of ribs. Uh-oh, Swaggy. I didn't get no fucking warm-up.
[12:13] Speaker 1: No fucking warm-up, man.
[12:15] Speaker 2: What the fuck, man?
[12:16] Speaker 1: Your niggas made me shoot. I just got here. I
[12:19] Speaker 1: just pulled up. Eight for ten, the number to beat, Swaggy. Damn.
[12:24] Speaker 1: I won't even say none, either. Fuck.
[12:28] Speaker 2: O-one, foot was on the line, sir, anyway. Make sure
[12:30] Speaker 2: your foot is not on the line.
[12:31] Speaker 1: Oop. 0-2. Foot was on the line again. Up and over.
[12:35] Speaker 1: There we go. This counts. 1-3. There we go.
[12:38] Speaker 2: That's why you got to rack off these next seven shots.
[12:40] Speaker 1: 2-4. Uh-oh. There we go, Nick. That's it right there. Over.
[12:44] Speaker 1: I am legend. 3-5. I am legend. Ah, fuck. Damn. 3-6.
[12:50] Speaker 6: Up.
[12:50] Speaker 1: That's game. Already game. Cold soul. That's game. 3-7. Steve Austin. Damn.
[12:56] Speaker 1: Steve Austin. Expect no mercy.
[12:59] Speaker 2: Swaggy will obtain from the rest of his shots.
[13:02] Speaker 1: Three for seven. Hey! I'll beat them. What's this? Three seven.
[13:07] Speaker 1: You'll beat who? Three seven, Swaggy. Three seven. No, three six.
[13:10] Speaker 1: Three six. Three seven. I missed three. That's it. I
[13:13] Speaker 1: may miss two, may three in a row, then just
[13:15] Speaker 1: miss that one. We'll give you three six. Chat, is
[13:18] Speaker 1: Swaggy correct? Fuck.
[13:22] Speaker 2: Now three seven.
[13:23] Speaker 1: Either way. Four eight. Two more. Four-nine. Hey, listen.
[13:31] Speaker 2: Pass the piece.
[13:32] Speaker 1: Five percent. Fuck! Okay. Hey, I like that shirt. I mean,
[13:36] Speaker 1: I did, though. Man, that was amazing. It don't count, bro.
[13:40] Speaker 1: It don't count, bro. I'm not counting it. It's you fucking. Goldstone.
[13:44] Speaker 1: Give me my money. We got to dunk them. Let's
[13:47] Speaker 1: run it back. Let's run it back. What? Let's run
[13:50] Speaker 1: it back. Let's run it back. What? Run it back.
[13:55] Speaker 1: Run what back? That. Run it back. 2-on-2 again. Yeah. Yeah.
[13:59] Speaker 1: Run it back. I mean, yeah. Y'all play 2-on-2. Run
[14:02] Speaker 1: it back. 2-on-2. I don't know. Run it back. Yeah, yeah,
[14:06] Speaker 1: I'll play two on two on the league. You're not
[14:09] Speaker 1: getting the ball. Run it back. You better run it back.
[14:14] Speaker 1: You want to run it back? Run what back? Run
[14:17] Speaker 1: it back. Make it what you mean. We playing it
[14:19] Speaker 1: right back.
[14:20] Speaker 6: Look, I got eight on the first try. If y'all
[14:22] Speaker 6: beat eight, then come holla at me.
[14:24] Speaker 1: Two on two, man. Run it back. Oh, two on two? Oh, yeah.
[14:28] Speaker 1: He got on Vans. Mr. B has on Vans.
[14:30] Speaker 3: He got on Jeans. He got on Bellbottoms. He got
[14:33] Speaker 3: on Bellbottoms. He got on Vans. Swaggy has on Bellbottoms.
[14:37] Speaker 1: You know. What you mean? I don't need that now.
[14:41] Speaker 1: I'm going to three right now. You're easy. You really
[14:43] Speaker 1: about to do it?
[14:43] Speaker 3: We're going to three right now. Give him the chump.
[14:46] Speaker 1: Like that. Just like that. Give him the chump. Are
[14:48] Speaker 1: you really about to do it? Let's go. What I'm
[14:50] Speaker 1: telling you is this. Are you really about to do it?
[14:52] Speaker 1: This is a team award. I got him this time.
[14:56] Speaker 1: So I don't care.
[14:56] Speaker 3: This is a team war, so I don't really care.
[15:01] Speaker 1: You feel me? I got my win.
[15:02] Speaker 3: I got him this time. To three by ones. Everything
[15:05] Speaker 3: counts as one. We're playing prison rules.
[15:07] Speaker 1: No fouls. We won last game. Two for it there. Whoa.
[15:11] Speaker 1: I'm good now, baby. Shoe program rules. Pelican back. Uh-uh.
[15:15] Speaker 1: Come on, baby. Come on, baby. You might not get
[15:18] Speaker 1: another shot. Yeah, you know where to go. Yeah.
[15:21] Speaker 2: Secretary Larry has taken his chain off.
[15:23] Speaker 1: Secretary Larry has taken his chain off. Hell yeah. Get
[15:27] Speaker 1: down there, motherfucker. No, he ain't playing no games, man.
[15:30] Speaker 1: Get your ass down there, man. Man, he pushing. Come on, go, spring, spring, spring.
[15:35] Speaker 1: Will Gil make his first pass in the arena? Look
[15:37] Speaker 1: at that way. Feet feet. Yes, yes, yes, yes. Come on, Nick. Oh,
[15:41] Speaker 1: he passed it.
[15:42] Speaker 3: Oh, yes.
[15:42] Speaker 1: Out of bounds. No, it's not out of bounds.
[15:44] Speaker 6: Go, score!
[15:45] Speaker 1: No, he traveled. Travel, travel. Prison rules. Travel, travel. Prison rules.
[15:50] Speaker 1: He traveled. I said prison rules, ladies and gentlemen. That's
[15:52] Speaker 1: out of bounds, baby. Where's the ref? Kenyon, what's that?
[15:55] Speaker 1: That's out of bounds. Whatever y'all call it.
[15:57] Speaker 3: No, out.
[15:58] Speaker 1: You threw it out. No, that's not out of bounds. No,
[16:00] Speaker 1: that's not out of bounds. No, that's not out of bounds.
[16:02] Speaker 1: That's travel. That's travel. Bro, it's a travel. All right,
[16:08] Speaker 1: ball don't lie. Yeah, I thought he was rolling. Ball
[16:10] Speaker 1: do not lie. I had the perfect pick and roll.
[16:13] Speaker 1: Shoot the ball. Oh, now that you hot, you want
[16:15] Speaker 1: to pass. Okay, I get it. We playing the three
[16:17] Speaker 1: by ones. Oh, Mr. B. Mr. B. Oh. Oh, yes.
[16:22] Speaker 1: Too easy. Too fucking easy. Too fucking easy. It just
[16:25] Speaker 1: came from work. Huh? It just came from work. What's
[16:28] Speaker 1: your problem? You set me up. Go ahead. Go ahead.
[16:32] Speaker 1: I'm at help. I'm at help. I'm at 2-9. 1-0.
[16:33] Speaker 1: I'm at 2-9.
[16:35] Speaker 3: Oh, yes.
[16:35] Speaker 6: Nope.
[16:36] Speaker 1: Oh, yes. Just a bit outside. 1-0. Oh, yes. Oh, yeah.
[16:39] Speaker 3: Don't worry about that. Don't worry about it. We're going
[16:41] Speaker 3: to get the switch. We're going to get the switch. Mr. B, again,
[16:44] Speaker 3: we're going to get the switch.
[16:46] Speaker 1: Oh.
[16:48] Speaker 3: Oh, he gave up.
[16:50] Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah. Ball in the pool. Ball in the pool.
[16:55] Speaker 1: Who left the ball in the pool? What you mean?
[16:58] Speaker 1: Let's go. What you mean? Let's go. Who left the
[17:01] Speaker 1: ball in the pool? Come on, play too much. It's
[17:04] Speaker 1: right here. You play too much, man. No, man.
[17:07] Speaker 3: That's why I don't pass you the ball. Mike Medina,
[17:09] Speaker 3: who put the ball in the pool? That's why I
[17:10] Speaker 3: don't pass him the ball.
[17:11] Speaker 1: He play too much. He gonna hit the ball in
[17:13] Speaker 1: the pool. Come on. No, you playing. They hooping at
[17:16] Speaker 1: hard defense and slack. Come on, man. I see him.
[17:19] Speaker 1: Come on. Me. Ladies and gentlemen. It's Mr. B. It's Mr. B.
[17:24] Speaker 1: I'm like, yeah. 1-0, Thursday in the arena. Yeah! All 1s.
[17:33] Speaker 1: All 1s and 3s. All 1s. 1s and 2s. 1s
[17:35] Speaker 1: and 3s. Yeah, he's tired. Look at him. He got
[17:37] Speaker 1: his hands on his hips. Get your hands off your hips.
[17:40] Speaker 1: Come on. Let's go. Hey, let's run. I got to play. No, no, no.
[17:42] Speaker 1: I got to play. I got to play, man. Get
[17:44] Speaker 1: the fuck out of here. Come on. Can we get
[17:45] Speaker 1: a five second? Move, man. 1-1 flat.
[17:46] Speaker 3: Y'all got three seconds to get this shit going.
[17:48] Speaker 1: I didn't think he was going to pass it. All right. Okay.
[17:53] Speaker 2: Swaggy currently strategizing.
[17:55] Speaker 1: Any day, guys. High-gramming a play. Okay.
[17:57] Speaker 2: Down one to nothing right now. Gills Arena, two on two.
[18:01] Speaker 1: Prison rules. Damn, he hurt? He hurt, he hurt. Oh, shit.
[18:04] Speaker 1: My man, my guy hurt. Two zip. Swaggy hurt. Hey,
[18:07] Speaker 1: nobody did nothing. Two zero, two zero. Ain't nobody do nothing.
[18:09] Speaker 1: Swaggy hurt. That's a game, that's game for us. Oh,
[18:13] Speaker 1: that's game? That's game. No, two zero, two zero. That's game, forfeit.
[18:24] Speaker 1: Four feet, game over. Four feet, game over. Ladies and gentlemen.
[18:31] Speaker 1: I wanted Brandon to stick with me. He's not deep, man. No,
[18:34] Speaker 1: he's not like that. That buff motherfucker guarding me, man.
[18:37] Speaker 1: I'm fucking strong as shit, man. How you move me
[18:40] Speaker 1: with an elbow? You too. I am legend. You move
[18:42] Speaker 1: me with an elbow?
[18:43] Speaker 6: I'm no longer a legend. I'm not playing against that shit.
[18:46] Speaker 6: That's a 24-hour fitness nigga, man. That nigga too strong
[18:49] Speaker 6: to be playing regular basketball.
[18:50] Speaker 1: Man, they playing too hard. Back in the arena. Elbow me.
[18:54] Speaker 1: I'm fucking doing a 23-1 prison workout trying to Over here,
[18:59] Speaker 1: play against us. You crazy. They turned the game off. Yeah,
[19:02] Speaker 1: my man hurt. Can you get him some ice? Yeah.
[19:06] Speaker 1: He need a little ice. Shaw, give him the chain.
[19:08] Speaker 2: Need a little ice.
[19:10] Speaker 5: I think I got the knock-knees thing.
[19:14] Speaker 1: What were we talking about yesterday? My knees is knocked.
[19:21] Speaker 1: Knock-knees swaggy. Thank you. I need this. Ladies and gentlemen.
[19:25] Speaker 1: Sure you do.
[19:26] Speaker 2: While swagging nurses' injuries, now's a great time for you
[19:29] Speaker 2: to download the Underdog app, use promo code GILD, get
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[19:35] Speaker 1: You was right. You said... You said we should.
[19:39] Speaker 2: Let's do the tease into the partner pack if we could.
[19:42] Speaker 1: Once I seen Brandon playing hard.
[19:44] Speaker 2: Let's get that tease ready. I don't want Baron wasting
[19:46] Speaker 2: his time for nothing. Lost Waggy Duxie. Had to release
[19:49] Speaker 2: 300 pushers last night.
[19:50] Speaker 1: Listen, we 2-0, so I'm not winning. That's a forfeit.
[19:53] Speaker 1: That's a forfeit. That's a forfeit. That's a forfeit. That's
[19:57] Speaker 1: a forfeit. We're going to three. If it was 1-0, yeah.
[19:59] Speaker 1: If it was 1-0, it's 2-0. It's really 2-0. It's 2-0.
[20:08] Speaker 1: That means that we up.
[20:09] Speaker 3: No, it's up.
[20:10] Speaker 1: It's our ball. It's our ball. No, we don't finish
[20:13] Speaker 1: the game. Yeah, you heard us. It's the elbow. It's
[20:15] Speaker 1: my knee. It's my knee. It's my knee. It's my knee.
[20:17] Speaker 1: It's my knee. It's my knee. It's my knee. It's
[20:18] Speaker 1: my knee. It's my knee. It's my knee. It's my knee.
[20:20] Speaker 1: It's my knee. It's my knee. It's my knee. It's
[20:22] Speaker 1: my knee. It's my knee. It's my knee. It's my knee.
[20:24] Speaker 1: It's my knee. It's my knee. It's my knee. It's
[20:26] Speaker 1: my knee. It's my knee. It's my knee. It's my knee.
[20:29] Speaker 1: It's my knee. It's my knee. It's my knee. It's
[20:31] Speaker 1: my knee.
[20:32] Speaker 6: It's my knee.
[20:32] Speaker 2: It's my knee.
[20:32] Speaker 1: It's my knee.
[20:33] Speaker 3: It's my knee.
[20:33] Speaker 1: It's my knee. It's my knee. It's my knee. It's
[20:35] Speaker 1: It'll hold it. 80's tape jar. It'll hold it right there.
[20:38] Speaker 1: Ladies and gentlemen.
[20:39] Speaker 2: So, we're going to continue this next week?
[20:42] Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah.
[20:43] Speaker 2: Is it 2-0 or 1-0? Y'all take in that second one.
[20:45] Speaker 6: 2-0.
[20:45] Speaker 1: We got to finish that game, so we got to
[20:46] Speaker 1: finish it.
[20:47] Speaker 2: But it's y'all ball to start.
[20:48] Speaker 1: Okay.
[20:48] Speaker 2: Come on, ladies and gentlemen. Make sure you tune in
[20:50] Speaker 2: next week to Gil's Arena to see the conclusion.
[20:52] Speaker 1: Now we know Thursday. The game plan.
[20:54] Speaker 2: Of our second 2-0-2 battle.
[20:55] Speaker 1: And quit. No, I wouldn't do that. That was the play. No, no.
[20:59] Speaker 1: That was the play.
[21:00] Speaker 3: Hey, Nick, this is what we're going to do. I
[21:01] Speaker 3: know you can't move in the pants. You really injured
[21:03] Speaker 3: me off the screen. I know you can't move in
[21:04] Speaker 3: those jeans. Off the pick and roll. In those jeans.
[21:09] Speaker 3: He can't go nowhere.
[21:10] Speaker 1: In the pick and roll? You kind of hurting me.
[21:13] Speaker 1: So let's just go back down there. Hey, man, can
[21:14] Speaker 1: you get a normal player, man? What do you mean? Yeah,
[21:17] Speaker 1: because that shit ain't cool. Too strong to be playing
[21:21] Speaker 1: with a spit. What do you mean, too strong, dawg?
[21:23] Speaker 1: The pick and roll action is crazy. I'm coming. Hey!
[21:28] Speaker 1: He got to be the ref, dawg. Yeah, you got
[21:30] Speaker 1: to play with Josiah. He got to be the ref, dawg.
[21:33] Speaker 7: Where's Norris Cole at, man? They said Swaggy got the MB, bitch.
[21:38] Speaker 7: He got to be the ref, dawg. Prison rules. Shoot program.
[21:43] Speaker 3: Hit me with a pick and all that shit.
[21:45] Speaker 1: The pick and roll action is crazy. Switch it. I
[21:47] Speaker 1: got to set a screen on this? Switch it. I
[21:49] Speaker 1: did switch. Switch it again. Bring it back. Nah, that's crazy, bro.
[21:55] Speaker 1: He moved me with an elbow. The dribble handoff, though.
[21:59] Speaker 1: You got ice packs. The dribble handoff is too nasty.
[22:01] Speaker 1: It's too nasty. Ice pack, first aid kits. You turn
[22:06] Speaker 1: that corner. Mr.
[22:07] Speaker 2: B cooking in the Brooks brother. It's too easy. It
[22:11] Speaker 2: is a wild day here in the arena, ladies and gentlemen.
[22:13] Speaker 2: We do have some basketball topics to discuss, so here's
[22:15] Speaker 2: what's cracking in the arena today.
[22:17] Speaker 1: That's why they talking about getting the game. That's why
[22:19] Speaker 1: I didn't want to play. He's sweating, he's sweating.
[22:22] Speaker 2: Yeah, too good looking to sweat.
[22:24] Speaker 1: I'm chill. It was cold.
[22:26] Speaker 2: It was a little chilly. But here's what's cracking in
[22:29] Speaker 2: the arena today.
[22:30] Speaker 1: They were cold? It looked that way.
[22:32] Speaker 2: It looked that way. It looked like they was cold.
[22:35] Speaker 2: It looked like they was cold. But once again, here's
[22:39] Speaker 2: what's cracking in the arena today. Giannis joined an elite
[22:41] Speaker 2: club in the Bucks' blowout win over the Mavs. Is
[22:44] Speaker 2: the Greek freak's greatness being taken for granted? Two Celtics
[22:48] Speaker 2: made history by dropping 40 in the same game, and
[22:52] Speaker 2: it ain't who you think. Will Boston be the first
[22:54] Speaker 2: team to go back-to-back since the Dubs? And Lakers governor
[22:58] Speaker 2: Jeannie Buss opened up on the Lakers' decision to move
[23:01] Speaker 2: AD for Luka. Was she keeping it real or throwing
[23:04] Speaker 2: shade about the trade? Before we get into all that,
[23:07] Speaker 2: as always, ladies and gentlemen, download the Underdog app, use
[23:08] Speaker 2: promo code Gil, get up to $ 1, 000 in bonus cash,
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[23:13] Speaker 2: we got tonight. Every game Luka plays, Underdog is hooking
[23:17] Speaker 2: you up. The Luka promo has hit four straight times.
[23:21] Speaker 2: Shout out to our Luka and savior, our Slovenian sensation,
[23:25] Speaker 2: the man who has brought LA back, none.
[23:29] Speaker 1: Other than Luka Doncic.
[23:30] Speaker 2: And as for tonight, Cemetery Larry has some picks up
[23:32] Speaker 2: in his partner pack on the Underdog app. Let us
[23:34] Speaker 2: take a look, if we can, please.
[23:37] Speaker 1: Wow, okay. Wow, it's immaterial. Luka, higher, 24.5 points.
[23:42] Speaker 2: The Knicks coming to town tonight to take on the
[23:43] Speaker 2: Lakers inside the arena formerly known as Staples Center.
[23:46] Speaker 1: He's really trying to jinx us.
[23:49] Speaker 2: Franz Wagner, lower, 29.5 points. Magic take on the Bulls tonight.
[23:55] Speaker 2: Draymond Green, higher, 5.5 assists. Warriors are at the nets.
[23:59] Speaker 2: And the Giddler, Josh Giddey, higher, 29.5 points, rebounds and assists.
[24:05] Speaker 2: This pack has been boosted. You can win 6.26 times
[24:08] Speaker 2: your bread. So, for reference sake, Lucas averaged 30, 10,
[24:13] Speaker 2: and 9 in 11 games against the Knicks in his career, Shaq.
[24:16] Speaker 2: You are confident that he will continue that trend against
[24:19] Speaker 2: your current Knicks. Still your favorite team, or have you
[24:20] Speaker 2: jumped ship?
[24:22] Speaker 1: Don't do it, Shaq.
[24:23] Speaker 2: What did I say? No, we need to get it approved.
[24:25] Speaker 1: What did I say? We'll talk to the council. I said,
[24:27] Speaker 1: you know, tonight's the night. You're going to.
[24:31] Speaker 3: If the Lakers win, you are officially switching over to
[24:33] Speaker 3: the bandwagon? My whole crew made G's. Tonight's tonight, baby,
[24:36] Speaker 3: so roll up on these.
[24:40] Speaker 1: Okay, shout out. No, it's Chris.
[24:42] Speaker 2: Are you guys rolling with y'all's partner pack? How you feeling, man?
[24:44] Speaker 1: Come on. He said red man. God. Tonight's tonight is Chris.
[24:50] Speaker 1: Chris Cross, bro. Come on, stop it.
[24:53] Speaker 3: Come on, he don't know. He's not light-skinned. He's from Albuquerque.
[24:57] Speaker 3: He's not from New York.
[24:58] Speaker 1: Steve, a New Yorker throwing through. He's from Albuquerque. Steve's
[25:02] Speaker 1: the lead.
[25:02] Speaker 2: He's also in transit right now. So if the Lakers
[25:05] Speaker 2: smack the Knicks, and I think both of you guys
[25:06] Speaker 2: should just come over. Dodgers smack the Yankees in the
[25:08] Speaker 2: World Series, just for reference. We've been dominating New York.
[25:10] Speaker 1: For a while.
[25:11] Speaker 3: Everybody's switching teams. Them Tims looking slim. Why can't we
[25:14] Speaker 3: switch up? Everybody go from hard to soft. We don't
[25:17] Speaker 3: motherfucking change teams from New York to L.A., goddammit.
[25:20] Speaker 1: Fuck it. Why not? They winning, right? Okay. City of dreams.
[25:27] Speaker 2: But we asked the chat, are you riding or fading
[25:29] Speaker 2: with Shaw's partner pack? 54% of the chat, Shaw, said
[25:32] Speaker 2: that they are riding with your partner pack tonight. You
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[26:41] Speaker 1: All right, well. Mr.
[26:43] Speaker 2: BC reppin' tough crowd, another gentleman that loves to rep
[26:45] Speaker 2: tough crowd.
[26:45] Speaker 1: Giannis Antetokounmpo.
[26:47] Speaker 2: So let's give him ya-ya.
[26:52] Speaker 1: Okay. You thought I was gonna say. Oh, I don't know.
[26:56] Speaker 1: All right.
[26:58] Speaker 3: So the Bucks blew out a depleted Mav squad by
[27:00] Speaker 3: 30 last night, but Giannis reached a major career milestone.
[27:04] Speaker 2: Let's take a look at a few of the highlights,
[27:06] Speaker 2: if we can, please. So Giannis was his usual dominant self,
[27:09] Speaker 2: dropping 32 points to go along with 15 boards, in
[27:12] Speaker 2: just 25 minutes of work. He was 13 for 20
[27:16] Speaker 2: from the field and nailed all six of his free
[27:18] Speaker 2: throw attempts. Kenya, I know you appreciate this. Giannis did
[27:21] Speaker 2: not attempt one three-pointer in the game.
[27:22] Speaker 1: No threes.
[27:24] Speaker 2: Got it the old-fashioned way. The Greek freak surpassed a
[27:28] Speaker 2: 20,000-point career milestone. At just 30 years old, Giannis is
[27:31] Speaker 2: one of the fastest players to ever reach 20,000 points.
[27:34] Speaker 2: Only LeBron, KD, Kobe, Wilt, and Jordan reached that milestone
[27:37] Speaker 2: at a younger age. Dame Lillard dropped 34 points in
[27:41] Speaker 2: 27 minutes, shooting a very efficient 11 for 15 on
[27:45] Speaker 2: the night. When Giannis got back to the bench after
[27:47] Speaker 2: reaching the 20,000-point milestone, Dame reportedly said, welcome to the club.
[27:53] Speaker 2: Giannis is the seventh player in NBA history born outside
[27:55] Speaker 2: the United States to reach 20,000 points. Let's enjoy these. 30-piecing.
[28:02] Speaker 2: Smacking them. Looking bad for the Mavs. Not for the Lakers,
[28:06] Speaker 2: but for the Mavs. So after the game, Doc Rivers
[28:09] Speaker 2: and Giannis joked about him trying to watch his tribute
[28:11] Speaker 2: video while Doc was trying to draw up a play.
[28:14] Speaker 6: Because once he did do it, we were trying to
[28:17] Speaker 6: drop a play, but we.
[28:18] Speaker 4: Couldn't get his attention because he was watching his own video.
[28:22] Speaker 8: Coach Doug did not let me watch it, man. He
[28:24] Speaker 8: kept saying, Giannis, Giannis, focus on the play. I'm like, Coach,
[28:28] Speaker 8: you don't get a lot of 20,000 points moments in
[28:31] Speaker 8: your career, so I've watched 1,000 plays. Let me watch
[28:34] Speaker 8: this one video.
[28:35] Speaker 1: So I didn't say that, but I thought about it.
[28:38] Speaker 2: Did not say it, but he thought about it. So
[28:42] Speaker 2: there seem to be some good vibes around the Bucs
[28:44] Speaker 2: right now. But as Giannis reaches this milestone, Mr. B,
[28:47] Speaker 2: we will start with you. Is the Greek freak's greatness
[28:51] Speaker 2: being taken for granted?
[28:53] Speaker 1: Yeah.
[28:55] Speaker 4: I think he's in a conversation with LeBron James and stuff,
[28:59] Speaker 4: just what he's done.
[29:00] Speaker 1: Two-time MVP, NBA champion.
[29:04] Speaker 4: He changed the narrative of what they said he couldn't
[29:06] Speaker 4: do and what he has proven.
[29:11] Speaker 1: But I think also because he plays in Milwaukee. No
[29:13] Speaker 1: small market.
[29:14] Speaker 4: So a lot of his triple doubles, a lot of
[29:15] Speaker 4: his games don't get a lot of highlights because of
[29:18] Speaker 4: where he plays. But from the work ethic to everything
[29:21] Speaker 4: that he's put in consistently, I mean, every year he
[29:25] Speaker 4: could be MVP because he plays both ends. And his
[29:28] Speaker 4: defense doesn't get talked about a lot. But on that end,
[29:31] Speaker 4: he's killing it too. So I think that's what it is.
[29:35] Speaker 2: Giannis averaging 31, 12 rebounds, 6 assists this season, shooting 60.5%.
[29:39] Speaker 2: from the field like you mentioned plays both sides of
[29:44] Speaker 2: the court let's move over to this side cemetery Larry
[29:46] Speaker 2: I see twiddling your thumbs as they say is Giannis'
[29:52] Speaker 2: greatness underappreciated.
[29:53] Speaker 1: 100% I mean.
[29:56] Speaker 3: You look production wise how could you Say he's not
[30:00] Speaker 3: number two. Behind somewhere I was just putting up a
[30:04] Speaker 3: bunch of points.
[30:07] Speaker 1: Right? You're talking about playing both sides of the ball.
[30:08] Speaker 1: Known for that.
[30:10] Speaker 3: You got to go watch what you're doing around the
[30:12] Speaker 3: rim because it's out of here if.
[30:13] Speaker 1: You fuck around when I'm down there. Right?
[30:15] Speaker 3: And then I'm guarding the best bigs, the best small forwards,
[30:20] Speaker 3: powerful forwards.
[30:20] Speaker 1: And if I switch on to a.
[30:22] Speaker 3: Point, he knows it's not easy to get by me.
[30:26] Speaker 1: So I see it. Exactly what B's saying. Underappreciated is....
[30:31] Speaker 3: He's greatly underappreciated. So, Giannis currently third, I believe, in
[30:35] Speaker 3: MVP odds behind SGA. Yeah, I mean, 31, 12, and 6.
[30:40] Speaker 2: I want to say 100 to 1 right now on
[30:42] Speaker 2: the odds.
[30:43] Speaker 1: And what is he shooting from the field? 60.5%.
[30:45] Speaker 2: All right, that's just.
[30:46] Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying? Like, what I was talking
[30:51] Speaker 3: about with SGA, you going up against Joker, he got
[30:53] Speaker 3: three tier levels, right? And then you got another guy
[30:56] Speaker 3: who got two and a half. you got one and
[30:59] Speaker 3: a half and a half, right? So it's like, you
[31:03] Speaker 3: got to break, like, how's Giannis not next? How's it
[31:06] Speaker 3: not just them two? Like it always is. Or him, him,
[31:10] Speaker 3: and Joel, because there's levels to it. And when James was,
[31:14] Speaker 3: I mean, James and Russ was involved in those talks.
[31:18] Speaker 3: KD wanted his, his, his was a lot higher too.
[31:20] Speaker 3: I mean, when you talk about putting it all together, but, um,
[31:26] Speaker 3: If he was in a different market, it'd be different.
[31:28] Speaker 1: No, I don't think it's market. I just think it's bias. Preference.
[31:33] Speaker 3: Everybody has a preference on who we're supposed to be
[31:35] Speaker 3: praising and who we're not.
[31:36] Speaker 2: Who's the new guy.
[31:37] Speaker 1: Yeah. And then if you don't praise the right guy,
[31:39] Speaker 1: you a hater. Gotcha.
[31:41] Speaker 2: But if you praise the right guy, you're a glazer.
[31:43] Speaker 1: Yes. So it does it. Yeah.
[31:46] Speaker 2: Depends on what you want to be.
[31:48] Speaker 1: Exactly. Make a choice.
[31:49] Speaker 2: You want to be today.
[31:50] Speaker 1: Make a choice. All right.
[31:55] Speaker 2: Thin line between glazing and hating. Let's move over to Kenya. Kenya,
[31:58] Speaker 2: look at what Jan's doing. I know you're a fan
[31:59] Speaker 2: of him not shooting threes, only averaging less than one
[32:02] Speaker 2: three-point attempt per game, not shooting a good number from
[32:05] Speaker 2: behind the arc. But Middy's looking good. Off to get
[32:08] Speaker 2: into the cup, dude. What the fuck about that three-point line, man?
[32:10] Speaker 1: Yeah, it is. Like everybody else do. Like, he's getting
[32:13] Speaker 1: it done the old-fashioned way. Yeah, it's the... He falls
[32:20] Speaker 1: into the LeBron category. Mm. when in Cleveland, like every year, right?
[32:27] Speaker 1: If he wanted to, you could like just, because he
[32:31] Speaker 1: was the best player in the NBA for a long time,
[32:33] Speaker 1: did the most for his team, was the most effective
[32:36] Speaker 1: where the team needed every year when he was in Cleveland.
[32:38] Speaker 1: Same thing with Giannis. He's going to always be in
[32:42] Speaker 1: the conversation. If you want to give it to him,
[32:43] Speaker 1: you can, like every year at MVP. So yeah, he's
[32:46] Speaker 1: very underappreciated in this day of the three ball, right? Yeah.
[32:55] Speaker 1: He doesn't deviate. He's added it to his game, but
[33:01] Speaker 1: he doesn't rely on it like a lot of people.
[33:05] Speaker 1: They've worked at it, and then it's the first thing
[33:07] Speaker 1: that they go to is that now. Yeah, and his
[33:13] Speaker 1: intensity and tenacity, the way he plays, is unmatched. So, yeah,
[33:20] Speaker 1: if you just go by pure dominance year in, year out,
[33:23] Speaker 1: he has been that. So, yeah, I think it's very underappreciated.
[33:28] Speaker 2: Do you agree with the couch that Giannis' greatness is underappreciated.
[33:31] Speaker 1: At this point? Oh, no, for sure.
[33:33] Speaker 6: I mean, the last seven years, it's, I mean, he's
[33:35] Speaker 6: flirting with 30 every year.
[33:36] Speaker 1: 30 and 12, 30 and 11.
[33:39] Speaker 6: So, just like Kenyon said, you can literally give him
[33:45] Speaker 6: the MVP every year and no one's going to actually
[33:48] Speaker 6: challenge it. You know, but, you know, Yoka's over there having,
[33:52] Speaker 6: you know, phenomenal year, you know, Embiid, you know, last year,
[33:58] Speaker 6: that was the only reason Giannis didn't win it. But,
[34:00] Speaker 6: you know, you're talking about a guy that is doing
[34:05] Speaker 6: what he's doing and he's still so raw, right? He
[34:08] Speaker 6: hasn't really perfected his game yet where he's going to
[34:12] Speaker 6: take that next tier.
[34:14] Speaker 1: So when he starts slowing.
[34:15] Speaker 6: Down a little bit and starts, like, really, you know,
[34:18] Speaker 6: becoming a master at his game, Jesus Christ, you know
[34:20] Speaker 6: what I mean?
[34:21] Speaker 1: So.
[34:21] Speaker 6: we might be looking at him at 40 years old
[34:24] Speaker 6: and we're sitting there like, well, how's he still doing this?
[34:26] Speaker 6: How's he still averaging 20 and 14? You know, that's
[34:30] Speaker 6: going to be, you know, Giannis. When it's all said
[34:33] Speaker 6: and done, he's going to be arguing about if you
[34:40] Speaker 6: remove team awards, you're going to argue if he is
[34:44] Speaker 6: the best power forward ever.
[34:48] Speaker 1: When it comes to just pure....
[34:52] Speaker 6: The person themselves, not hanging on, I had this great team,
[34:56] Speaker 6: I'm just hanging on my accolades alone. You're going to
[34:59] Speaker 6: argue if he's the best power forward ever.
[35:02] Speaker 2: So quick before I get to you, Shai, Giannis finished
[35:05] Speaker 2: top four in MVP voting the last six seasons. That
[35:07] Speaker 2: includes his back-to-back MVP wins, 2019, 2020. On pace, he's
[35:09] Speaker 2: averaged over 30 in 11. If he continues that trend
[35:15] Speaker 2: this year, last three seasons, then the season prior to that.
[35:18] Speaker 2: 29.9 in 11.6. That's 30. We give him the bump.
[35:21] Speaker 2: Thank you, gentlemen. That's 30. I saw you with your
[35:23] Speaker 2: finger raised. Have we ever.
[35:25] Speaker 3: Seen a big man do what we expected him to
[35:30] Speaker 3: do past their peak? Like the peak David Robinson, peak Hakeem,
[35:37] Speaker 3: peak Shaq, peak KG. After that peak... have we ever
[35:43] Speaker 3: seen anybody take it to like how Bron, like how
[35:47] Speaker 3: that next level after the peak, it is usually a decline, right?
[35:51] Speaker 3: Like Amari, certain guys hit that peak and it's like, shoot.
[35:55] Speaker 1: It was built on athleticism and certain shit, right?
[35:59] Speaker 3: So the skill to add to it. He's just going
[36:01] Speaker 3: to start playing.
[36:02] Speaker 1: He's just going to play at half court now.
[36:04] Speaker 3: That's what I was just, that's my question to y'all is,
[36:06] Speaker 3: does it, what would it do to his game to
[36:10] Speaker 3: slow his game down?
[36:11] Speaker 2: To play at half court?
[36:12] Speaker 1: It's going to come.
[36:13] Speaker 3: If that drop off from where he is now that's
[36:15] Speaker 3: slowing his game down is like takes him to 22
[36:19] Speaker 3: and nine.
[36:20] Speaker 1: It's going to still be more than that. When he
[36:24] Speaker 1: start playing in the half court? Yeah, it's going to
[36:26] Speaker 1: be easier.
[36:26] Speaker 3: At like what age is that to come on? Is
[36:29] Speaker 3: he 31 now?
[36:29] Speaker 1: 30 now? He's 30 now?
[36:30] Speaker 3: So he's talking about 35?
[36:33] Speaker 1: Oh, shit.
[36:35] Speaker 3: When he has to start posting up, has to start going.
[36:38] Speaker 1: Up and unders and shit. That's another five years. Fadeaways.
[36:41] Speaker 3: Blake Griffin hit it at what age? Yeah, that's just Billy.
[36:44] Speaker 3: I mean, if you take away... Amari hit it at
[36:46] Speaker 3: what age? I mean, but that's... But the work ethic
[36:48] Speaker 3: is different. If you take away knee injuries, then it's Carmelo...
[36:52] Speaker 3: Probably dunking.
[36:54] Speaker 1: Yeah. Right? Yeah. Bro, listen. The shit this boy doing, man,
[37:00] Speaker 1: without shooting. Come on, man.
[37:02] Speaker 3: And see, Timmy didn't have to rely on fundamentals when
[37:05] Speaker 3: he got older. He was already using the bank shot.
[37:07] Speaker 3: He was already facing up and doing that shit. So
[37:09] Speaker 3: you couldn't really tell if he was declining up.
[37:12] Speaker 1: Until his athleticism. He couldn't really block shots and shit. Yeah,
[37:16] Speaker 1: when you're forced to slow down, then you got to.
[37:20] Speaker 1: And then he got him to start thinking again. Now
[37:24] Speaker 1: let me really be dominant on this block, right?
[37:27] Speaker 3: Does he have that IQ right now?
[37:30] Speaker 1: Yeah. Where have we seen it? Nobody made him. That's
[37:34] Speaker 1: what I'm saying.
[37:35] Speaker 3: If we haven't challenged him to see where his IQ
[37:39] Speaker 3: is post-block, Double team. Play out the double team. We pre-rotate.
[37:43] Speaker 3: And how you going to make this play?
[37:44] Speaker 1: Because he ain't been coached to do it. Ain't nobody
[37:46] Speaker 1: made him do it yet. And the game doesn't have
[37:48] Speaker 1: to force him to do it.
[37:49] Speaker 3: So even in transition, if we set up a transition
[37:52] Speaker 3: defense to slow him down, where all his transition.
[37:55] Speaker 1: Points don't exist.
[37:56] Speaker 2: They've tried it. There's nothing they can't do.
[37:58] Speaker 1: They didn't try it.
[38:00] Speaker 4: I think it's just certain people you just can't match.
[38:03] Speaker 1: Because they can't match. Can't match up. You can't match
[38:06] Speaker 1: up and you can't match that. His intensity and energy
[38:10] Speaker 1: for the... No. No, I'm telling you. We're talking about
[38:12] Speaker 1: transition defense, right? It is, but.
[38:13] Speaker 3: Get back into the paint and we know Giannis is coming.
[38:16] Speaker 1: But... Yes.
[38:17] Speaker 6: But you got to remember, the person that's going to
[38:19] Speaker 6: stop him is built like this.
[38:20] Speaker 1: Yeah. The white Howard.
[38:22] Speaker 3: We know that whoever his matchup is cannot. We know
[38:25] Speaker 3: to collectively, we all got to run back to the
[38:28] Speaker 3: paint and make him throw.
[38:29] Speaker 1: To AJ Green. We got to make him take. We
[38:32] Speaker 1: got to. You taking shots. Everybody just running. We run back.
[38:34] Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, yeah.
[38:35] Speaker 1: Get back. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
[38:36] Speaker 3: That's to build the wall. That's how you have to play.
[38:38] Speaker 3: A lot of them buckets wasn't transition.
[38:40] Speaker 1: No. I know. He was working. He's working. He's still working. Like,
[38:44] Speaker 1: that game, he's working on his shit.
[38:46] Speaker 3: You can tell.
[38:46] Speaker 1: Now, he's working on his shit in the game. Like, okay,
[38:49] Speaker 1: let me work on this shit. I've been this dirt
[38:51] Speaker 1: fade one leg. Let me work on this shit I've
[38:53] Speaker 1: been working on, right? Let me see if it works.
[38:56] Speaker 1: Now it's starting to slow down. But until somebody make
[39:00] Speaker 1: you do something different. Yeah, don't change shit. People use
[39:04] Speaker 1: to ask, why KJ don't shoot jump shots in high school?
[39:06] Speaker 1: Why the fuck would he? Shoot 70% from the field.
[39:10] Speaker 1: Why the fuck would I do anything else? Until you
[39:14] Speaker 1: make me do something different, I'm not going to do it.
[39:17] Speaker 1: Especially when I'm trying to win a game, I'm going
[39:21] Speaker 1: to go with what I know. And he just plays
[39:24] Speaker 1: one way. He's trying to win every possession, every game.
[39:27] Speaker 1: He don't take possessions off. So, until the league matches that, player-wise,
[39:34] Speaker 1: each and every, he's going to always stand out. That
[39:37] Speaker 1: second jump, that second chance point. And it's not.
[39:40] Speaker 6: It's going to be getting closer to European basketball, any
[39:44] Speaker 6: type of guards.
[39:45] Speaker 1: So it's not like his game is going to take
[39:48] Speaker 1: a dive because the.
[39:49] Speaker 6: Competition is going to be skinnier and weaker.
[39:54] Speaker 1: So he's going to be able to bully, play bully basketball,
[39:56] Speaker 1: you know, moving forward. Where's he at on the list
[39:58] Speaker 1: of 20,000 for youngest?
[40:00] Speaker 2: He is six, six, six.
[40:03] Speaker 1: And who's in front of him? Yeah.
[40:04] Speaker 2: So I will read that list to you right now.
[40:06] Speaker 2: Just give me one second for that same age. So
[40:09] Speaker 2: fastest players to ever reach 20 K is a LeBron KD, Kobe, Wilt,
[40:13] Speaker 2: and Jordan.
[40:15] Speaker 1: No ages involved. It's just, or just the fastest? 20,000.
[40:18] Speaker 2: 20,000 people, but no age. So the fastest to reach
[40:22] Speaker 2: 20,000 points, LeBron, KD, Kobe, Wilt, and Jordan, reached the
[40:27] Speaker 2: milestone at a younger age than Giannis.
[40:31] Speaker 1: Yeah, because they had jump shots. He's going to get 30.
[40:33] Speaker 1: Because they made free throws. Top three. Top three scoring
[40:37] Speaker 1: all time? Because they made free throws. He can possibly
[40:40] Speaker 1: get 10,000 more. He definitely gets 10,000 more. And let's
[40:42] Speaker 1: put it in even more perspective. Shooting 60% from the
[40:44] Speaker 1: free throw line. For his career. For this season's shooting.
[40:48] Speaker 1: But just put it in even more perspective, right? The
[40:51] Speaker 1: shit we say about Shaq. If Shaq would have made
[40:53] Speaker 1: free throws. If Shaq would have shot 70%, 72% for
[40:56] Speaker 1: his career from the line. Yeah. his scoring, he'll be
[41:04] Speaker 1: higher on the list. If Giannis was to make free
[41:06] Speaker 1: throws consistently and he had made free throws, he would
[41:09] Speaker 1: have been there.
[41:09] Speaker 2: So Giannis shooting 70% or 69.4% in his career from
[41:13] Speaker 2: the free throw line. This season, though, he's shooting 59.6,
[41:15] Speaker 2: career low.
[41:16] Speaker 1: Damn, damn.
[41:17] Speaker 2: Just imagine, man.
[41:18] Speaker 1: He would have been there. How many points does Kareem have?
[41:20] Speaker 2: What was it, what, 38?
[41:22] Speaker 1: 38,000. No, he's going to break 38,000. Yeah, I mean,
[41:27] Speaker 1: for sure.
[41:28] Speaker 2: He's going to.
[41:28] Speaker 4: He's getting 30,000 for sure.
[41:31] Speaker 1: As long as he stays healthy. Yeah.
[41:33] Speaker 6: As long as he stays healthy, you're talking about declining at,
[41:37] Speaker 6: let's say he retires at 37, 38. That puts him
[41:41] Speaker 6: at least three or four. That's another 10 years. Have
[41:44] Speaker 6: you already looked at the map, though?
[41:46] Speaker 3: Karl Malone and Kareem Abdul-Jabbar is 38,000.
[41:48] Speaker 1: With no threes. Yeah. Yeah.
[41:53] Speaker 2: It's getting buckets.
[41:54] Speaker 1: True. A lot of free throws, man. Look at Steph.
[41:56] Speaker 3: Look at Steph and KD.
[41:59] Speaker 1: All of them, and they behind them at twos. Even Dirk.
[42:03] Speaker 3: Like, Dirk and certain guys that reached to, what? I
[42:06] Speaker 3: think Dirk got to, like, 30. Where Mello at? Mello's
[42:09] Speaker 3: top 10.
[42:10] Speaker 1: 26, 27. He just cracked the top 10.
[42:12] Speaker 3: So you're looking at guys that's like, man, Mello got
[42:16] Speaker 3: at least six more years to add to that that
[42:19] Speaker 3: he didn't even get to just add to that. And
[42:22] Speaker 3: then you look at A.I., He didn't get all them
[42:25] Speaker 3: years that he could have chased it. So Melo 10th,
[42:27] Speaker 3: I think 28,289 points.
[42:29] Speaker 1: The reason Yana's going to get it because.
[42:31] Speaker 6: His skill set is outside of analytics, right? So he's
[42:37] Speaker 6: trekking on the same waters that Wilt was trekking on,
[42:40] Speaker 6: Young Bron, Colb, early Colb, Karl Malone is.
[42:47] Speaker 6: Yeah, threes is worth more than twos, but the twos
[42:50] Speaker 6: had a higher percentage. So if you're giving a guy
[42:53] Speaker 6: 20 shots, he's not taking 14 threes shooting 40%. He's
[42:57] Speaker 6: shooting 60%. So that's where Giannis is at. He's not
[43:03] Speaker 6: wasting shot attempts chucking threes at a 36, 40% rate.
[43:07] Speaker 6: He's saying, fuck that, I'm going to get this, plus
[43:11] Speaker 6: an and one. Even if he misses the free throw,
[43:13] Speaker 6: it just adds to his wasn't. So he's getting threes,
[43:17] Speaker 6: in theory, just old school threes. He's getting old school
[43:21] Speaker 6: and ones. He's getting a bunch of those. So when
[43:23] Speaker 6: you're looking at how they got it, they got it
[43:26] Speaker 6: doing it a certain way.
[43:27] Speaker 2: So you're telling this era to shoot.
[43:29] Speaker 6: A bunch of threes You actually stopping them from getting
[43:33] Speaker 6: this award.
[43:34] Speaker 3: I had to do the deep dive into Karl Malone,
[43:36] Speaker 3: John Stockton, right? Karl Malone got majority of his points
[43:39] Speaker 3: from who?
[43:40] Speaker 1: John. John is the NBA what? Assess League of the Year.
[43:44] Speaker 1: All right.
[43:44] Speaker 3: So they work. They don't go together. They don't go
[43:47] Speaker 3: anywhere without each other. They have to, right? And you're like, well,
[43:52] Speaker 3: Karl Malone's points was on what type of? What type
[43:55] Speaker 3: of moves? Was it the fadeaway? Was it just the
[43:57] Speaker 3: pick and pop? Was it just the pick and roll?
[43:59] Speaker 3: And then you look at Kareem's. Was it all jump hooks?
[44:03] Speaker 3: Was it all iso in the post? Was it offensive
[44:06] Speaker 3: rebound putbacks? You know, so you're looking at the totality
[44:09] Speaker 3: of Jordan and Kobe. Bron, how you got your points, right?
[44:14] Speaker 3: And then you look at Giannis. How would Giannis get
[44:16] Speaker 3: to that level without it not just being easy? Easy buckets.
[44:20] Speaker 3: Like you said, the three. My three is an and one.
[44:23] Speaker 3: That three comes off a two rebound.
[44:26] Speaker 1: Yeah. Magic, what is he, third on the list? Third.
[44:29] Speaker 1: Way before you got to Magic. Yeah. But Magic made
[44:33] Speaker 1: his career go longer. Fuck no. He wasn't running with him.
[44:36] Speaker 1: He wasn't running with him like that. That's what I'm saying. Matt,
[44:38] Speaker 1: Kareem wasn't like... Yeah, it was Spoon, but most of the... No, shit.
[44:42] Speaker 2: This is different. Just throw it in the cap.
[44:43] Speaker 1: He got it. How long did he play for? 20 years?
[44:45] Speaker 1: 19 years. But to 40 what? So he played, like,
[44:50] Speaker 1: he only had nine, what, eight years with Magic? Easy buckets.
[44:55] Speaker 1: Easy buckets, yeah. No, okay, so with Magic, it's like
[45:00] Speaker 1: Tim Duncan and Shaq, right?
[45:02] Speaker 6: Where Magic is a fast break. If they don't have
[45:05] Speaker 6: the fast break, give it to Kareem. And then Kareem
[45:07] Speaker 6: is creating his own move.
[45:09] Speaker 1: He was the last one down the floor type shit. Yeah, yeah.
[45:12] Speaker 3: So it's not like he's the last nigga down the floor.
[45:15] Speaker 1: Y'all ain't get it? Y'all ain't get it? It's coming
[45:18] Speaker 1: to me. I heard him say something, and I kind
[45:21] Speaker 1: of laughed.
[45:23] Speaker 6: He was like, I guess they had a conversation. Why
[45:26] Speaker 6: you don't think nobody adapted to Skyhook?
[45:31] Speaker 1: I mean, that's easy.
[45:31] Speaker 6: Nobody motherfucking seven foot with motherfucking seven five wingspan that
[45:35] Speaker 6: nobody can motherfucker touch. The only person who can do
[45:38] Speaker 6: that is now Wimby.
[45:40] Speaker 1: Yeah. That's it. That's the only person who can adapt
[45:43] Speaker 1: what you had.
[45:43] Speaker 6: Other than that, nah. Motherfuckers, somebody get into that. You
[45:48] Speaker 6: look at Kareem's long career, though.
[45:50] Speaker 1: Somebody get into it.
[45:51] Speaker 3: Kareem's last six seasons, 80 games, 79 games, 79 games,
[45:53] Speaker 3: 78 games, 80 games, 74 games.
[45:54] Speaker 2: I'm just like, damn.
[45:59] Speaker 1: Availability.
[45:59] Speaker 3: Yeah, that right there. And you're scoring, right? And you're
[46:05] Speaker 3: almost whooping Bruce Lee's ass. I try to put in
[46:07] Speaker 3: the output, the energy output for the points that you're scoring,
[46:10] Speaker 3: which is the degree of difficulty, all that shit that
[46:13] Speaker 3: we look at Kobe and them. It was so difficult, right?
[46:17] Speaker 3: But it's like, you didn't have to do that. Y'all
[46:19] Speaker 3: didn't have to do all that shit y'all was doing.
[46:21] Speaker 1: It looked dope.
[46:22] Speaker 3: That's why we put them where we put them, because
[46:23] Speaker 3: that shit looked nice, but KD showed you you ain't.
[46:27] Speaker 1: Got to do all that to do all that. He's
[46:29] Speaker 1: not seven feet.
[46:30] Speaker 3: Exactly, he's not seven foot, but.
[46:31] Speaker 6: He just showed you energy.
[46:35] Speaker 3: The energy is like, I don't got to do all
[46:37] Speaker 3: that to get this off. Mello is even more. Mello
[46:40] Speaker 3: never had to do all that shit, you know what
[46:42] Speaker 3: I'm saying, get you off me.
[46:43] Speaker 2: So we asked the chat, is Giannis underrated? 58% say yes.
[46:48] Speaker 2: So let's talk about the Bucs. Bucs got their fourth
[46:50] Speaker 2: straight win, their eighth in the past nine games. Right now,
[46:54] Speaker 2: Bucs are season best, 11 games over. 500, sitting in
[46:56] Speaker 2: the fourth spot in the Eastern Conference. Started the season 2-8.
[46:59] Speaker 2: We were ready to put them in a pack. Mr. B,
[47:02] Speaker 2: you always believe your loyalty and allegiance.
[47:05] Speaker 1: Say we was out to. Gil, it's 2025.
[47:08] Speaker 2: Remember?
[47:09] Speaker 1: No, I'm just saying, we was smoking that pack. It was, oh, yeah,
[47:12] Speaker 1: we was puffing it. It was some red.
[47:13] Speaker 3: Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.
[47:14] Speaker 1: Nah. It didn't really make me hot. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
[47:17] Speaker 1: We was puffing and huffing.
[47:18] Speaker 2: Had to roll it in a grape swisher to feel something.
[47:20] Speaker 1: We just got a headache, and we just stopped. Like, yeah,
[47:22] Speaker 1: you know what, man? We got some good Cali shit, man.
[47:24] Speaker 1: We're going to get off this Milwaukee shit. This mid.
[47:28] Speaker 1: This mid shit. This Midwest.
[47:29] Speaker 2: With the seeds in it.
[47:31] Speaker 1: This Midwest shit. It's popping.
[47:32] Speaker 2: But, Gil, I got to know, because it's 2025. You said,
[47:34] Speaker 2: no more Doc Rivers hate.
[47:35] Speaker 1: And I have.
[47:36] Speaker 2: And then you're all over 2025. You've been very supportive.
[47:37] Speaker 6: I have been.
[47:38] Speaker 2: What place did the Bucs end?
[47:40] Speaker 1: Fourth.
[47:40] Speaker 2: Fourth right now. Gil, who deserves the most credit for
[47:43] Speaker 2: the Bucs turnaround?
[47:44] Speaker 1: Mm-mm. This is just... Damn, the fact that.
[47:48] Speaker 6: I'ma just be honest with you. I ain't been paying
[47:53] Speaker 6: you attention, bro. But I'ma give it to Brandon Jennings
[47:56] Speaker 6: for the little dance. Had little white folks in there
[47:58] Speaker 6: dancing with him, and they've been tricking ever since.
[48:00] Speaker 1: Me? When I went? Yeah, there you go. There you go, Sheila.
[48:03] Speaker 1: Ever since then. Ever since then. They beat... Hey, you
[48:06] Speaker 1: know what?
[48:08] Speaker 6: Now this became a perfect win for you because Detroit
[48:12] Speaker 6: Pistons end up being pretty good.
[48:15] Speaker 1: Yeah.
[48:17] Speaker 2: Mr. B, you were on two and four. The white
[48:18] Speaker 2: gentlemen were on one and three, but every number was covered.
[48:22] Speaker 2: Every number was covered there. So in your opinion, obviously,
[48:25] Speaker 2: you know you love the Bucs.
[48:26] Speaker 1: Have you in Milwaukee?
[48:27] Speaker 4: I'm going to give the credit to Giannis because he's
[48:29] Speaker 4: a leader. So when Giannis wanted things to change, when
[48:33] Speaker 4: he called out people who didn't want to be there, And,
[48:36] Speaker 4: you know, he held everybody to a higher standard, and
[48:38] Speaker 4: everybody responded. From the trade deadline, we got Kuzma, you know,
[48:43] Speaker 4: Kevin Porter Jr., everybody's coming in. They're bringing different energy.
[48:45] Speaker 4: So I'm putting on the leader, Giannis, because he stepped
[48:49] Speaker 4: up and said something and changed the game.
[48:51] Speaker 1: Good.
[48:52] Speaker 2: Had to make the tough decision to trade Chris Middleton. Obviously,
[48:54] Speaker 2: he was coming from bilateral ankle surgery, figuring out.
[48:57] Speaker 4: But that's what a leader, that's what the best player
[48:59] Speaker 4: is supposed to do in the league, what he did.
[49:02] Speaker 1: Call out everybody. If you want to be here, get out.
[49:05] Speaker 2: Giannis even called out the equipment manager in that rant
[49:07] Speaker 2: as well. Everybody was not, the equipment was still a
[49:11] Speaker 2: little rusty.
[49:13] Speaker 1: Wasn't dry. Wrinkles. No socks.
[49:17] Speaker 2: Mismatched socks. Do we think the Bucks have a chance, though,
[49:23] Speaker 2: in this East?
[49:24] Speaker 1: I think they always got a chance in the playoffs.
[49:26] Speaker 4: I'm curious to see what happens when Bobby come back
[49:28] Speaker 4: for this. He's still out for 25 games. I mean,
[49:31] Speaker 4: I know he has experience, so he'll be all right, but...
[49:34] Speaker 4: He comes back right before.
[49:35] Speaker 1: The playoffs, right?
[49:35] Speaker 2: Like two or three games before the playoffs start.
[49:38] Speaker 1: He's going to help, so.
[49:40] Speaker 2: Do y'all think he deserved that 25-game suspension? Tramadol, Toradol,
[49:43] Speaker 2: sound the same. Did y'all talk about it? Did we
[49:46] Speaker 2: talk about it? We didn't really hit it, you know,
[49:47] Speaker 2: out of respect. Out of respect? What the fuck you
[49:49] Speaker 2: mean out of respect? Nah, we just didn't have time
[49:51] Speaker 2: in the rundowns, Kenyon, as you know.
[49:53] Speaker 1: Oh, wait, wait. Don't gangbang on me.
[49:55] Speaker 3: Because it happened during All-Star weekend, so we was gone.
[49:58] Speaker 1: Weekend and then another week off. It was in the rundown,
[50:02] Speaker 1: but then we have more important things to talk about.
[50:04] Speaker 2: Out of respect? Out of respect?
[50:08] Speaker 1: The motherfucker got 45 games. What the fuck are you
[50:10] Speaker 1: talking about out of respect? But for Tramadol....
[50:13] Speaker 2: Tramadol, drug nobody cares about, even doctors have said ain't
[50:16] Speaker 2: a big deal.
[50:17] Speaker 1: Yeah, but the league said it is. So I just
[50:20] Speaker 1: had a question. So why not just take Toradol?
[50:23] Speaker 2: So he thought he was taking Toradol.
[50:24] Speaker 1: No, he didn't. No, he didn't. No, the fuck he didn't.
[50:27] Speaker 1: Toradol comes with your fucking doctor. Toradol's a shot. Toradol,
[50:29] Speaker 1: they give you a fucking shot. In your ass. So therefore,
[50:32] Speaker 1: this is what I'm saying. I call cap. Yeah.
[50:35] Speaker 2: You call cap on the store.
[50:36] Speaker 1: Yeah, fuck yeah. Yes. Toradol's just like, window book. Right
[50:40] Speaker 1: in your motherfucking cheek. Yeah. Right in your motherfucking cheek.
[50:45] Speaker 1: In football, they call the shit the T-train. Uh-huh. Line up.
[50:50] Speaker 1: Line up. And they cheek out. But one after another.
[50:55] Speaker 2: Some of us don't like things in our cheek.
[50:58] Speaker 1: Well, in order to play, sometimes I had to take Toradol.
[51:01] Speaker 1: You got Toradol? I took Toradol shots in order to play.
[51:04] Speaker 2: You're calling Cap on the story. He said he got
[51:05] Speaker 2: a pill from your assistant.
[51:07] Speaker 1: If somebody gave him a Toradol pill, they're trying to
[51:09] Speaker 1: kill it. What the fuck is a Toradol pill? It's
[51:12] Speaker 1: too strong. Whatever it is, if they did, the shit
[51:13] Speaker 1: going to eat his fucking stomach lining up. It's too strong. Okay.
[51:18] Speaker 6: Who is getting a pill from the assistant of Toradol?
[51:21] Speaker 1: My assistant? Where did my assistant get a pill from?
[51:24] Speaker 2: Well, the assistant had tramadol, I think, for a surgery
[51:26] Speaker 2: or whatever.
[51:27] Speaker 1: I have a full medical staff at my disposal. Right here.
[51:32] Speaker 1: A doc. You can get anything under the sun. All
[51:35] Speaker 1: you got to do is pick the phone up. You
[51:37] Speaker 1: can get anything under the sun from your fucking trainer.
[51:41] Speaker 1: If not, even if you're training today, you can just
[51:43] Speaker 1: go to the gym, get this shit yourself.
[51:45] Speaker 6: You can go in your locker room, open that motherfucking cabinet.
[51:50] Speaker 1: Or I get my assistant to do it.
[51:54] Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah.
[51:55] Speaker 1: Hey, did you go to Mexico like I told you to?
[51:57] Speaker 9: I had to get my sister to do it.
[51:59] Speaker 1: Before they closed the door. Before this man closed this door.
[52:03] Speaker 1: I need you to run in there. I need you
[52:05] Speaker 1: to go to Tijuana now. Well, they don't pick this
[52:11] Speaker 1: up into what's-her-name.
[52:12] Speaker 2: I think the point is that, as the doctors were saying,
[52:14] Speaker 2: tramadol is much weaker than Toradol. They don't even prescribe
[52:18] Speaker 2: it that much anymore.
[52:18] Speaker 1: So they might as well give you Vioxx or Celebrex. Ooh,
[52:21] Speaker 1: Celebrex used to hit. Whatever the normal... He was hurt?
[52:23] Speaker 1: Whatever the normal goddamn... Well, take four leave, motherfucker. Listen,
[52:28] Speaker 1: trust me. From somebody who done took all the... No. Listen.
[52:32] Speaker 1: I've never... I've never... When I heard the shit, I'm like, no, Bobby.
[52:38] Speaker 1: Why not? Even right now, I called one of the
[52:42] Speaker 1: doctors at the pro.
[52:43] Speaker 2: Hey, call this in for me. Do not name that doctor.
[52:48] Speaker 2: Do not name that doctor.
[52:49] Speaker 3: I'm sure Bobby just tried to play 20-something plus years, man,
[52:53] Speaker 3: like everybody else.
[52:54] Speaker 1: We get it. He just got caught up. He just
[52:56] Speaker 1: got caught up. He's trying to follow the rules, man.
[52:59] Speaker 3: He's trying to figure out which one to take.
[53:04] Speaker 1: This ain't it. He knew it.
[53:07] Speaker 3: Put the right one on the internet so we can
[53:09] Speaker 3: take the right one.
[53:10] Speaker 1: Listen, he was going to take it and think it
[53:12] Speaker 1: wasn't going to pop. That's all that is. He thought
[53:15] Speaker 1: he was going to take that shit.
[53:17] Speaker 3: He got the message everybody else got. Man, I'm supposed
[53:20] Speaker 3: to be taking the right shit. You gave me the
[53:21] Speaker 3: wrong shit.
[53:22] Speaker 1: But my thing is, listen, he took that shit and
[53:24] Speaker 1: didn't think his name was going to come up. Piss test,
[53:26] Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying? That's all that shit is.
[53:29] Speaker 1: And they just ain't piss testing you now. They taking
[53:32] Speaker 1: blood and shit now. And the saliva. Marijuana? No.
[53:36] Speaker 4: That's what I'm saying.
[53:38] Speaker 1: So why are you suspending 25 games?
[53:40] Speaker 3: No, because on the band side, let's just.
[53:43] Speaker 6: Say if you used it, what I'm saying is if
[53:45] Speaker 6: you used what he was using.
[53:47] Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying? Whoa. Whoa. He just jabbed
[53:51] Speaker 1: my ass. Hold on. I thought he knew it. He
[53:53] Speaker 1: jabbed my ass. He tried to fuck me on camera. Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa.
[54:01] Speaker 2: He jabbed his ass.
[54:03] Speaker 1: If you took it, you'd be good again. On camera.
[54:06] Speaker 1: Your knee wouldn't be hurting no more. Don't do it
[54:08] Speaker 1: on camera. If I took Trill off?
[54:09] Speaker 3: If you took where he was taking it, your knee
[54:10] Speaker 3: wouldn't be hurting no more like that.
[54:12] Speaker 2: How about that?
[54:12] Speaker 1: Damn. Yeah. Hey, listen. Have him good old time. He
[54:16] Speaker 1: just didn't think he was going to get called. He
[54:18] Speaker 1: thought he was going to take that shit, go on
[54:20] Speaker 1: an all-star break, come back feeling good. Feeling good. The
[54:22] Speaker 1: way everybody else feels. And that goddamn name came up.
[54:26] Speaker 1: Trust me. First day of practice. Bobby. What'd I do?
[54:31] Speaker 1: What'd I do? What'd I do? See? What'd I do? Guaranteed.
[54:35] Speaker 1: He started sweating right away. He's like, damn. You can't.
[54:39] Speaker 1: Once that name come up, you can't leave the facility. Listen.
[54:42] Speaker 1: You got to have it with you. You got to
[54:43] Speaker 1: be prepared. Every day, you got to be prepared. What
[54:45] Speaker 1: are they going to have? A wizard native? You just
[54:48] Speaker 1: got to have it in your locker.
[54:49] Speaker 3: What?
[54:50] Speaker 1: The mix? The drink? That ain't going to help. They
[54:54] Speaker 1: taking blood? You got to find me.
[54:56] Speaker 3: I'm going to hide.
[54:57] Speaker 1: I'm hiding. You got to find me. I ain't seen Chuck.
[55:01] Speaker 1: There you go. But at the same time, but still though,
[55:04] Speaker 1: they doing either one. So two bloods? Whatever it is,
[55:08] Speaker 1: they coming during the summer, blood drawing, they doing it all.
[55:10] Speaker 1: They doing the blood. They going too far. They going
[55:12] Speaker 1: too far with the blood. So he didn't think his
[55:14] Speaker 1: name was going to pop. You're not cloning me. That's
[55:17] Speaker 1: all that shit is. You ain't cloning me. And them
[55:19] Speaker 1: the dudes, so you got to wait. So the game
[55:22] Speaker 1: is you got to wait until they test you. They
[55:26] Speaker 1: ain't going to do it. Fool. I don't know. Yes.
[55:30] Speaker 1: You don't know? I've been on a team where— They're
[55:33] Speaker 1: back-to-back on you. Yeah.
[55:34] Speaker 2: You must have been on the program.
[55:36] Speaker 1: But they don't get caught, though. They didn't care. We
[55:39] Speaker 1: had four of them? Yeah, I'm talking about them. They
[55:41] Speaker 1: in the program. Oh, okay. You're a volunteer. They can
[55:44] Speaker 1: test you seven days a week.
[55:45] Speaker 6: So basically all they did was just take a whole
[55:48] Speaker 6: bunch of edibles and stuff and then say on test day,
[55:50] Speaker 6: I'm an addict.
[55:52] Speaker 1: Yep. Whatever that is. Whatever they test is, as long
[55:56] Speaker 1: as they test under that, they good. It's always good.
[55:58] Speaker 1: That is the move. I ain't got to take a
[55:59] Speaker 1: whole bunch of edibles. I'm guilty. So we asked the chat,
[56:04] Speaker 1: who deserves credit for the Bucs turnaround?
[56:06] Speaker 2: 10% say Doc Rivers. 40% say Mr. B.
[56:08] Speaker 1: Damn.
[56:12] Speaker 2: But 50% say Giannis. You and Giannis, if it was
[56:15] Speaker 2: only just two. You and Giannis.
[56:18] Speaker 1: You don't even play. You don't even play. They dangerous, man. Healthy.
[56:23] Speaker 2: Bucks and six.
[56:24] Speaker 1: If they healthy, they scary. I'm going to tell you, right?
[56:27] Speaker 1: And the way it's lined up.
[56:29] Speaker 6: With them two killers they got. They play Pacers. And
[56:32] Speaker 6: then from there, they got the Cavs.
[56:35] Speaker 1: They got one of the best corners. They healthy and scary.
[56:39] Speaker 1: They got two of the best corners in the game.
[56:41] Speaker 4: We like Golden State, how Golden State is right now
[56:44] Speaker 4: in the West.
[56:44] Speaker 1: How they just, we just slide, just chilling.
[56:47] Speaker 2: All right, well, let's keep this thing moving. So yesterday
[56:51] Speaker 2: on ESPN, yesterday on ESPN, Kendrick Perkins dropped his list
[56:55] Speaker 2: of the top five point guards in the NBA. Let's
[56:57] Speaker 2: take a look at Perk's list. He had an SGA first,
[57:00] Speaker 2: Jalen Brunson second, Steph third, Luka Doncic fourth, Kay Cunningham fifth.
[57:06] Speaker 2: These are active point guards. I know top five lists are,
[57:12] Speaker 2: go ahead, speak your mind. This is Gilson representing my under,
[57:14] Speaker 2: you are free to, okay? I will tuck my chain in.
[57:18] Speaker 2: So how many former athletes we got on this couch?
[57:20] Speaker 2: Former NBA players? Okay, I like that you changed the
[57:22] Speaker 2: criteria because it was going to be former athletes with six,
[57:25] Speaker 2: now former NBA players.
[57:26] Speaker 1: Five former NBA players. So you couldn't ask one of
[57:31] Speaker 1: us to come up with our top five? We got
[57:32] Speaker 1: to use another motherfucker? Well, that is the catalyst. What happened?
[57:36] Speaker 1: Funny you should ask, Kenyon. Funny you should ask. Just
[57:39] Speaker 1: ask us. We ain't got to go. That's the dot, dot, dot.
[57:41] Speaker 1: You could have texted us and listened. They're the ops. Steve,
[57:44] Speaker 1: you could have texted us and been like, I need
[57:46] Speaker 1: your top five point guards tomorrow. Get them opps over there. Yeah,
[57:50] Speaker 1: but it's a little bit more interesting if you have
[57:51] Speaker 1: someone else's list to disagree with. No, I know it,
[57:54] Speaker 1: don't we? Listen, you don't think we disagree enough on
[57:57] Speaker 1: this fucking couch? Well, at least you'll agree to disagree
[58:01] Speaker 1: on this.
[58:01] Speaker 2: Well, Kenyon, one thing we all can agree on. One
[58:04] Speaker 2: thing we all can agree on, you make delicious ribs.
[58:06] Speaker 2: Steve needs some music.
[58:07] Speaker 1: I had to. Steve needs some music.
[58:09] Speaker 3: Everybody compliment Kenyon's ribs.
[58:13] Speaker 9: Steve needs some music.
[58:16] Speaker 2: Kenyon brought ribs to the set today. I had not
[58:18] Speaker 2: one but two. Three would have put me to sleep.
[58:21] Speaker 2: So I know top five lists are a matter of
[58:23] Speaker 2: personal preference, dot, dot, dot. I think we did this
[58:26] Speaker 2: earlier in the season, but it's time to update it.
[58:27] Speaker 2: So we're going to go around the couch. I want
[58:29] Speaker 2: your top five. This was just a frame of reference.
[58:31] Speaker 2: Kendrick Perkins, former NBA champion, championship.
[58:33] Speaker 1: Experience, over at ESPN. So you're saying we did it
[58:35] Speaker 1: earlier in the season? We've talked points earlier. So why
[58:38] Speaker 1: couldn't we reference our lists? We did it all the time.
[58:41] Speaker 2: We did it all the time, but are we updating
[58:42] Speaker 2: our list now that we've got a larger sample size?
[58:44] Speaker 2: We did it all the time? We did it all
[58:46] Speaker 2: the time. But I think that was last year.
[58:47] Speaker 1: Oh, so... See, we don't know what the fuck we
[58:49] Speaker 1: did last year.
[58:50] Speaker 2: 300-something shows came. We get confused.
[58:52] Speaker 1: I dig it. Two and a half hours every day.
[58:54] Speaker 1: I don't remember it. So if we did all the
[58:56] Speaker 1: time this year's, last year's, I don't fucking know.
[58:59] Speaker 2: We ain't did this year's, though. But let's go around.
[59:02] Speaker 2: Give me your top five list. If anybody has their
[59:03] Speaker 2: list ready to go, I see you guys working your
[59:05] Speaker 2: phones right now, strategizing.
[59:08] Speaker 1: I'll go. Yeah. I got Shea number one. Okay.
[59:14] Speaker 2: I think.
[59:16] Speaker 6: This season he only scored under 20 once.
[59:20] Speaker 2: I believe so.
[59:21] Speaker 6: And, you know, how he's playing, obviously, that's easy. Number two,
[59:26] Speaker 6: I got Cade. Cade Cunningham. Jump into two on Gil.
[59:31] Speaker 6: I think he has about, what, 20-plus double-doubles, about 11,
[59:36] Speaker 6: 12 triple-doubles this season, you know, carrying a young Detroit team.
[59:43] Speaker 6: Number three, I got that man they called The Beard.
[59:47] Speaker 2: I got Harden. James Harden.
[59:49] Speaker 6: When Kawhi went out, Paul George was gone. Russ was gone.
[59:53] Speaker 6: Everybody thought the Clippers was going to be some bullshit.
[59:57] Speaker 6: And what he's done... In the 30-something games, Kawhi wasn't
[1:00:04] Speaker 6: there and still Kawhi trying to come back. He's held
[1:00:06] Speaker 6: that team on his shoulders, even making Powell look like
[1:00:11] Speaker 6: an all-star. I mean, obviously Powell did his thing too.
[1:00:14] Speaker 2: He did as well. We're going to talk James Harden
[1:00:17] Speaker 2: later in the show too. Had a very, very successful night.
[1:00:19] Speaker 1: James with his, what, 22-8-4.
[1:00:22] Speaker 2: I got him at, you know, three.
[1:00:25] Speaker 1: Four, I'm going to go Brunson.
[1:00:31] Speaker 6: You know, just as, you know, just a smaller player
[1:00:34] Speaker 6: who's just been holding New York on his back, you know,
[1:00:39] Speaker 6: with the success last year, the big trade, players being injured, right?
[1:00:44] Speaker 1: He's been that.
[1:00:44] Speaker 6: Steady guy for them averaging about, what, 24, 25, fixing three,
[1:00:50] Speaker 6: seven and three. I think for all the elements that
[1:00:57] Speaker 6: New York has been going through, He's been holding it down.
[1:01:03] Speaker 2: Five, I have Dame. Dame Lillard is your fifth?
[1:01:09] Speaker 6: For a guy who's actually the second option on his team,
[1:01:12] Speaker 6: averaging 24, 25, 7, and 4, those are Derrick Rose
[1:01:22] Speaker 6: MVP years, and he's doing that as a second option.
[1:01:25] Speaker 6: So at this moment right now, that's my top five.
[1:01:30] Speaker 1: You know, Lucas Maguire and all of them.
[1:01:32] Speaker 6: You know, I got to go with the people who played,
[1:01:36] Speaker 6: you know, they got the games in.
[1:01:37] Speaker 2: So, speaking of getting the games in and don't want
[1:01:39] Speaker 2: to disagree with your list or slander anybody on your list,
[1:01:41] Speaker 2: obviously we're trying not to be toxic here, but you
[1:01:43] Speaker 2: did not have Steph Curry on your list. Was there
[1:01:45] Speaker 2: a reason that Steph did not make your top five
[1:01:48] Speaker 2: based on how he's performing this season? I mean, he's playing.
[1:01:51] Speaker 6: Without slandering any of the other people? No, no, I mean,
[1:01:53] Speaker 6: he's playing, you know, he's playing very well. You know,
[1:01:55] Speaker 6: he's averaging, what, about 24, 5, and 3.
[1:01:56] Speaker 1: Um....
[1:02:02] Speaker 6: I don't think he's doing as much as Brunson right now.
[1:02:09] Speaker 6: I mean, to be honest, he could have been four,
[1:02:13] Speaker 6: could have been five, but I just think the way Brunson's,
[1:02:16] Speaker 6: the way his team has been injured, some of his
[1:02:20] Speaker 6: success and where his team is, got his team three
[1:02:24] Speaker 6: with all the injuries.
[1:02:27] Speaker 1: He deserves that spot.
[1:02:28] Speaker 6: And with Dane playing the way Dane's playing, And, you know,
[1:02:33] Speaker 6: he is the second option, you know, with those numbers.
[1:02:37] Speaker 2: So let's move over to Kenyon. Kenyon, I know you
[1:02:40] Speaker 2: watch a lot of jazz games, previously watched a lot
[1:02:42] Speaker 2: of football games. But as a result, see a lot
[1:02:45] Speaker 2: of NBA basketball.
[1:02:46] Speaker 1: A lot of losing. A lot of losing. Hey. Top five.
[1:02:54] Speaker 1: Why that couldn't be water? Why that couldn't be water?
[1:02:56] Speaker 1: I had the beam.
[1:02:57] Speaker 6: Yeah.
[1:02:59] Speaker 2: Oh, yeah, it's not water, Gil. It's not water. Straight
[1:03:01] Speaker 2: Red Bull.
[1:03:03] Speaker 1: My bad.
[1:03:05] Speaker 2: Top five active point guards in your estimation.
[1:03:09] Speaker 1: I'm going to say Shea, Cade, Trey Young. Okay.
[1:03:19] Speaker 2: Shout out Rayford Young III.
[1:03:22] Speaker 1: Fourth.
[1:03:28] Speaker 2: What place the clip was in? Clippers are currently, I believe, no,
[1:03:33] Speaker 2: they fell.
[1:03:33] Speaker 1: They slid. Eighth.
[1:03:35] Speaker 2: They're eighth right now.
[1:03:38] Speaker 1: We're nice.
[1:03:38] Speaker 2: Jump to eighth with the win. Or with the Detroit Pistons.
[1:03:45] Speaker 2: I need two more for me.
[1:03:48] Speaker 1: I know. I'm just....
[1:03:52] Speaker 2: I feel more like those two delicious ribs that you
[1:03:54] Speaker 2: made that I had earlier.
[1:03:55] Speaker 1: I know how to count, Josiah. Um....
[1:04:00] Speaker 2: Never question that.
[1:04:00] Speaker 1: You didn't fucking rush Gil, so don't fucking rush me, Joe.
[1:04:03] Speaker 2: Not rushing any of you.
[1:04:03] Speaker 1: All right.
[1:04:05] Speaker 2: Give me the shovel. Ken, you are not Fugazi. I
[1:04:12] Speaker 2: just want to point that out.
[1:04:13] Speaker 1: I'm four. Yo, stop it, man. You're not Fugazi. I'm
[1:04:17] Speaker 1: just saying. Four, I'm... Fuck. Because I'm... Do I go
[1:04:28] Speaker 1: with my... my basketball-ness, or do I go with the current,
[1:04:34] Speaker 1: the way the game is played, right? Because I have
[1:04:39] Speaker 1: a hard time pointing guards, shooting the ball 27, 28
[1:04:42] Speaker 1: times a night, or just period, unless you really got
[1:04:46] Speaker 1: it going. Like, I have a hard time with that.
[1:04:50] Speaker 1: Just watching it consistently. Like, there are some possessions where
[1:04:53] Speaker 1: nobody else fucking touches the ball because you didn't brought
[1:04:56] Speaker 1: that bitch up and ran the picture. Like, if you
[1:04:58] Speaker 1: ran six pick and rolls, then nobody else done touched it.
[1:05:00] Speaker 1: I have a hard time with that. But Jalen Brunson
[1:05:05] Speaker 1: is effective in his approach, the way he gets it done.
[1:05:09] Speaker 1: Tyrese Max is the same way. I like what Tyrese
[1:05:14] Speaker 1: Halliburton brings to the table, pass first guy.
[1:05:17] Speaker 3: Halliburton having a historic season right now, not getting a
[1:05:20] Speaker 3: lot of attention for it, but.
[1:05:21] Speaker 1: Fuck, I'm going to go with Steph. If we're going
[1:05:28] Speaker 1: to go with somebody shooting and scoring it and doing
[1:05:31] Speaker 1: what they, I'm going to go with Steph at four.
[1:05:33] Speaker 1: And I'm going to get a younger generation some love
[1:05:37] Speaker 1: since I like guys that pass the ball first. Since
[1:05:40] Speaker 1: you said I watch a lot of jazz games, Isaiah
[1:05:42] Speaker 1: Collier is, he's going to be one of them. He's
[1:05:48] Speaker 1: going to be one of them. I always think it's higher.
[1:05:52] Speaker 1: Maybe having him, like, seven. I'm like, oh, good luck.
[1:05:55] Speaker 1: He only missed it once. He only missed it once
[1:05:58] Speaker 1: the last few games. But, no, he is, once he learned, like,
[1:06:02] Speaker 1: he out there moving like J.K. was, or young J.K. Like,
[1:06:05] Speaker 1: he fast as shit, man. Oh, okay. Like, you got
[1:06:08] Speaker 1: to keep up. Like, it's one of them. Like, if
[1:06:10] Speaker 1: you ain't, he laying that bitch up. Any competitive, but
[1:06:14] Speaker 1: he a pass-first guy, man, and he's learning the game
[1:06:16] Speaker 1: on the fly. Like, I like watching him. So, yeah, man,
[1:06:20] Speaker 1: give me the young guy. It's just my... I could
[1:06:24] Speaker 1: have put any of these guys that's really, really getting
[1:06:26] Speaker 1: it done on the list, but I'm gonna go with
[1:06:29] Speaker 1: the young guy.
[1:06:30] Speaker 2: Let's move over to Cemetery Larry. Top five active point guards.
[1:06:37] Speaker 2: I'm gonna go with Steph, number one.
[1:06:39] Speaker 1: Okay. I'm gonna go with... Luca, number two.
[1:06:47] Speaker 2: A good choice.
[1:06:47] Speaker 1: I'm gonna go with Shea, number three.
[1:06:51] Speaker 3: I'm going to go with Trey Young, number four.
[1:06:57] Speaker 1: And, um, Cade Cunningham, number five.
[1:07:02] Speaker 2: Cade. Cade, actually, I believe the unanimous selection so far
[1:07:08] Speaker 2: in all of these lists.
[1:07:11] Speaker 1: See how dead that is? Because I didn't say why.
[1:07:13] Speaker 6: Yeah.
[1:07:14] Speaker 1: That's the deal shit. Mm-hmm. I wanted to say that
[1:07:17] Speaker 1: so bad. What happened? What's going on? That's your list.
[1:07:22] Speaker 5: You were supposed to say why. You were saying why.
[1:07:25] Speaker 5: You were just supposed to give your top five.
[1:07:27] Speaker 1: And then we move on. And then we move on.
[1:07:29] Speaker 1: I remember you saying that. I knew that was coming.
[1:07:32] Speaker 1: I knew that was coming. No, that's not even a saying.
[1:07:35] Speaker 1: We said it for a good two, three, four seconds.
[1:07:37] Speaker 1: I said, that's your list. I'm like, cool.
[1:07:39] Speaker 2: I didn't throw anybody under the bus.
[1:07:40] Speaker 1: I was just saying the positives of my guys. The
[1:07:43] Speaker 1: guys I have on my top five. Everybody else knows, right?
[1:07:46] Speaker 1: Just say you're top five and not Ryan. No, you
[1:07:48] Speaker 1: did give us reasons. You gave us reasons.
[1:07:51] Speaker 3: So you could give reasons, just not negative reasons.
[1:07:54] Speaker 1: For the young guys. You had to. You know why
[1:08:03] Speaker 1: I do it? Because it's out of the norm. It's
[1:08:06] Speaker 1: out of the norm. Now we on to something.
[1:08:12] Speaker 3: We didn't ask him to do it, like you said.
[1:08:14] Speaker 3: We didn't ask him, but he felt compelled because In
[1:08:18] Speaker 3: my fifth spot, all the other niggas I could pick,
[1:08:21] Speaker 3: I'm going to take a chance with this young nigga.
[1:08:24] Speaker 1: But I got to tell y'all why. Yeah, explain to
[1:08:26] Speaker 1: y'all why. I got to. Because they ain't watching him.
[1:08:27] Speaker 3: Yeah, you don't know why I'm picking him. I got
[1:08:30] Speaker 3: my reason. Maybe you will watch it.
[1:08:31] Speaker 1: You'll see it, too.
[1:08:32] Speaker 2: You'll be like, hey, man, Kenny was right.
[1:08:34] Speaker 1: That young killer got good.
[1:08:35] Speaker 3: Let's shift over to Swaggy P bringing in championship experience.
[1:08:39] Speaker 3: I want to hear your top five actor point guard
[1:08:42] Speaker 3: list with championship experience.
[1:08:43] Speaker 2: I'm going to go Garland. Okay, there's Garland.
[1:08:47] Speaker 1: Faye. SGA? Hero. Point guard? Yeah, he played point, he played.
[1:08:55] Speaker 3: Point, he played point.
[1:08:58] Speaker 1: LaMelo. LaMelo. And Fox.
[1:09:04] Speaker 2: De'Aaron Fox.
[1:09:04] Speaker 1: That's four? That's five. I said Melo, Hero, Garland. Garland. Fox. Fox.
[1:09:13] Speaker 1: And Shake. I said Shake. I said Shake, yeah. I'm
[1:09:19] Speaker 1: going to go Steph, SEA, Cade, Dame Lillard.
[1:09:27] Speaker 3: This nigga right here.
[1:09:31] Speaker 1: Homer. Homer. Dude. That was the last one? A fine pick, Brandon.
[1:09:44] Speaker 1: A fine pick. Yeah, I like James Harden, too. Man, 22, 8,
[1:09:50] Speaker 1: and 6.
[1:09:51] Speaker 2: 28 double-doubles.
[1:09:52] Speaker 1: Yeah. I like it. I like it. Steph, Shay, what
[1:09:57] Speaker 1: was he saying? Cade and Dane Lillard. Top five point
[1:10:00] Speaker 1: guards in the league right now? It's this season, right?
[1:10:03] Speaker 1: This season, not overall. It's this season. Based on their
[1:10:07] Speaker 1: body of work? This season. Yes.
[1:10:09] Speaker 6: And nobody's allowed to say nothing about their five either.
[1:10:12] Speaker 6: Nobody's going to say nothing about their five. High five
[1:10:17] Speaker 6: to your five. High five to your five, playboy. I'm
[1:10:20] Speaker 6: not giving no reason.
[1:10:21] Speaker 2: It's my five.
[1:10:22] Speaker 1: It's your five, right? Mr.
[1:10:24] Speaker 2: B high-fiving each other across the couch.
[1:10:25] Speaker 1: Uh-huh.
[1:10:26] Speaker 2: At the distance.
[1:10:26] Speaker 1: All right, good list. Don't explain your five, homie.
[1:10:29] Speaker 2: So, Senator Larry, I just want to point out you're
[1:10:31] Speaker 2: the only person that has our Luka and Savior, Luka Doncic,
[1:10:34] Speaker 2: on the list.
[1:10:34] Speaker 1: Really? Mm-hmm. Did y'all forget he was the point guard?
[1:10:39] Speaker 6: No.
[1:10:39] Speaker 1: I heard. Oh.
[1:10:43] Speaker 2: Yeah, 20 this year, right?
[1:10:44] Speaker 1: No.
[1:10:44] Speaker 2: I thought it was just this season.
[1:10:46] Speaker 1: I mean, if we're talking about... Listen, that's your five.
[1:10:49] Speaker 1: He does have four straight games when he's, like, 30.
[1:10:51] Speaker 1: I'm with it. Performing pretty well. Performing pretty well. I
[1:10:54] Speaker 1: like what Trey did. I mean, the list was so, like, tough.
[1:10:56] Speaker 1: I was like, I got to find reasons not to
[1:10:58] Speaker 1: put people in. I was like, 26 games, cool. 29 games, cool.
[1:11:01] Speaker 2: Oh, you had a game minimum, okay.
[1:11:03] Speaker 1: Yeah, you had a game minimum.
[1:11:06] Speaker 2: Well, speaking of.
[1:11:07] Speaker 3: You said it was so good that you had to
[1:11:08] Speaker 3: figure out.
[1:11:10] Speaker 1: Yeah, when I broke down everyone's, like, You had.
[1:11:14] Speaker 3: To figure out a reason, not like you had to
[1:11:17] Speaker 3: pick something.
[1:11:17] Speaker 6: No, I said like, so like if the season ended
[1:11:20] Speaker 6: right now and they had a top five, there's a criteria.
[1:11:23] Speaker 6: So if these games are 61 games and a guy
[1:11:25] Speaker 6: only has 20 games, he wouldn't be part of the criteria.
[1:11:27] Speaker 1: Got to take somebody out, right? So I just took
[1:11:29] Speaker 1: him out. Other criteria.
[1:11:30] Speaker 3: Process of elimination, man. With your preferences. That's why we
[1:11:34] Speaker 3: have to have reasons. That's why we have to have reasons.
[1:11:37] Speaker 3: Because the preference has to eliminate the other dudes. Like, yeah,
[1:11:41] Speaker 3: you can't be up here no more, man. I tried
[1:11:43] Speaker 3: to keep you in this list.
[1:11:44] Speaker 1: Yeah, because we all have, whatever it is, like, this
[1:11:48] Speaker 1: goes back to life in itself.
[1:11:51] Speaker 2: Like, as an individual.
[1:11:54] Speaker 1: Your own entity, you are entitled to your own preferences.
[1:11:58] Speaker 1: You don't have to succumb or agree with what the
[1:12:00] Speaker 1: fucking next person is doing. As long as it floats
[1:12:04] Speaker 1: your boat and blow your hair back, that's all that
[1:12:07] Speaker 1: fucking matter, man. You know what I'm saying? Like, people are...
[1:12:12] Speaker 1: Never heard that before, but... You heard it here. Close
[1:12:15] Speaker 1: your mouth. Close your hair, man. Below your hair back,
[1:12:17] Speaker 1: Brother Knowledge. Brother Knowledge. He show his 75 every day. Damn,
[1:12:22] Speaker 1: he's 75. The visual just.
[1:12:23] Speaker 3: But it makes sense when you think about it.
[1:12:26] Speaker 1: Brother Knowledge. Yeah, but... So... People can, like, you can
[1:12:34] Speaker 1: like who you like, man, and you can say why
[1:12:36] Speaker 1: or not say why, and that's your fucking preference. By
[1:12:40] Speaker 1: any means necessary. And if people don't agree with it, oh, well.
[1:12:44] Speaker 1: And to worry about, like, to put, like, real live
[1:12:49] Speaker 1: energy into, like, disliking... Like, Rashad's list, like, fuck that,
[1:12:54] Speaker 1: your list, nigga. I'm going to tell you why your
[1:12:56] Speaker 1: list suck. Because my list better. Because my list better.
[1:13:00] Speaker 1: Of course you like your list better because you made it.
[1:13:02] Speaker 1: Admit it that my list better than yours. Like, Moe,
[1:13:05] Speaker 1: argue that. Like, no, of course I think my list
[1:13:09] Speaker 1: is better than yours because I made it. Like, I
[1:13:11] Speaker 1: don't have to, like, try.
[1:13:12] Speaker 5: To make him like mine because I made it.
[1:13:15] Speaker 9: Nick.
[1:13:17] Speaker 1: Let's get this shit going.
[1:13:19] Speaker 5: If you say another motherfucking preference or something.
[1:13:22] Speaker 1: You can do your Lizzy and I'll do mine. We
[1:13:24] Speaker 1: know that motherfucker. What you gonna do about it? I
[1:13:27] Speaker 1: ain't gonna do nothing to you, brother. What you gonna
[1:13:28] Speaker 1: do about it? Can you technically put your kids in
[1:13:31] Speaker 1: the pool? That's what I'm going to do. Call the police.
[1:13:36] Speaker 1: He's my best friend. As soon as I wake back up,
[1:13:41] Speaker 1: did you get him? Did you get him? No. No.
[1:13:44] Speaker 3: Whatever happened? No, we did not. He's on the way still.
[1:13:49] Speaker 1: Whatever happened? You needed to hide. He's still on the way.
[1:13:52] Speaker 1: Y'all get him. No, we didn't. He's still on the loose.
[1:13:55] Speaker 1: He's still on the loose. Here's his address.
[1:13:58] Speaker 3: We're going to need a little bit more than just
[1:14:00] Speaker 3: the bowling.
[1:14:00] Speaker 1: I know where he's going to be at Tuesday and Thursday.
[1:14:03] Speaker 9: We're going to need the FBI in there for him.
[1:14:06] Speaker 1: They're like, hey, you're going to give him the joint
[1:14:08] Speaker 1: like the child support people. Damn. You wrong. They outside
[1:14:13] Speaker 1: waiting on you. Yeah, that's him. Yeah, that's him. Right
[1:14:16] Speaker 1: there with the great suit. Looking like a damn snitch.
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[1:15:13] Speaker 1: So to your question, Gil, yeah. Putting Nicole at point.
[1:15:20] Speaker 1: You can?
[1:15:20] Speaker 2: You can?
[1:15:21] Speaker 1: You can, right?
[1:15:22] Speaker 2: You can do whatever you want.
[1:15:23] Speaker 1: I don't even want to sit there and fuck with people.
[1:15:27] Speaker 1: Fuck with people. We got it won. Okay, I got it.
[1:15:29] Speaker 1: Yoke at you. Oh, come on. He's going to start
[1:15:34] Speaker 1: a whole argument in the barbershop. He's going to skip
[1:15:38] Speaker 1: his appointment. He can go. He can go. He can go.
[1:15:40] Speaker 6: He's going to piss me off.
[1:15:43] Speaker 1: LeBron James, number one. That's how you get two sinners.
[1:15:47] Speaker 1: He initiates the offense. Absolutely. Every possession. He had 19 assists.
[1:15:53] Speaker 2: So one of Michael Jordan's biggest supporters, also known as
[1:15:56] Speaker 2: a glazer, in the sports media world is Stephen A. Smith,
[1:16:00] Speaker 2: constantly caped for Jordan over LeBron in GOAT debates. However,
[1:16:03] Speaker 2: something interesting happened when LeBron surpassed a 50,000 career points threshold.
[1:16:07] Speaker 2: So let's take a look.
[1:16:08] Speaker 1: I'll even go a step further.
[1:16:10] Speaker 10: Knowing how I feel about Jordan, and I think anybody
[1:16:12] Speaker 10: that knows basketball agrees with me, I actually think it's
[1:16:17] Speaker 10: time to not even have the debate anymore because that's
[1:16:21] Speaker 10: how great LeBron James has been for as long as
[1:16:24] Speaker 10: he has been that great. I can stand down and
[1:16:27] Speaker 10: acknowledge that because this is absolutely phenomenal. But it's not
[1:16:31] Speaker 10: the 50,000 points. It's not even the way he's looked
[1:16:34] Speaker 10: last night. It's not even the way he's looked this month.
[1:16:37] Speaker 10: It's the fact that I'm watching this brother with Anthony Davis,
[1:16:40] Speaker 10: without Anthony Davis.
[1:16:41] Speaker 1: With Luka, without Luka. I mean, this dude right here.
[1:16:44] Speaker 10: And I'm looking at a guy at 40 years of
[1:16:46] Speaker 10: age who's in better shape than 98% of the league,
[1:16:51] Speaker 10: if not more, at age 40 in his 22nd season.
[1:16:55] Speaker 10: LeBron James, especially on a morning like this, deserves all
[1:16:59] Speaker 10: the props in the world.
[1:17:02] Speaker 2: Welcome to the right side of history, Stephen A. Smith.
[1:17:06] Speaker 2: Before I ask the question, do you know what Stephen A.
[1:17:08] Speaker 2: Smith hasn't done in the last 133 days? What? Come on,
[1:17:11] Speaker 2: Gil's Arena, like you said he would. But, Gil, question
[1:17:14] Speaker 2: for you. What's your reaction to Stephen A. Smith flip-flopping
[1:17:17] Speaker 2: on the GOAT debate?
[1:17:19] Speaker 1: What do you mean flip-flopping?
[1:17:21] Speaker 2: He's giving LeBron love now.
[1:17:24] Speaker 6: I know that's not considered a flip-flop. That's called still
[1:17:27] Speaker 6: keeping the possibility of change open. Like, sometimes people just
[1:17:33] Speaker 6: close the doors, and they're not accepting, you know, like.
[1:17:36] Speaker 1: In a club, we're not accepting nobody else, right?
[1:17:39] Speaker 6: So the fact that the door's still open for other
[1:17:41] Speaker 6: people to actually come in, you know.
[1:17:47] Speaker 1: You know, I go to first take one day, baby.
[1:17:50] Speaker 1: You know what I mean?
[1:17:51] Speaker 4: You know, you start throwing.
[1:17:54] Speaker 6: Shit out there, motherfuckers be like, okay, I didn't really
[1:17:59] Speaker 6: think of it like that.
[1:18:00] Speaker 1: I did that. I did that. You walk the world,
[1:18:04] Speaker 1: you know, all your Braun fans out there, it just
[1:18:07] Speaker 1: took one day. It just took one day.
[1:18:09] Speaker 4: But it's time for change, though. Like, for the debate
[1:18:13] Speaker 4: and things like that.
[1:18:13] Speaker 1: You can't even debate anymore, really. That's what I feel like.
[1:18:17] Speaker 4: But just to, like, these players today, man, they're doing
[1:18:19] Speaker 4: things that are unbelievable.
[1:18:20] Speaker 1: Like, come on. I don't know, man. 50,000 points is crazy.
[1:18:27] Speaker 1: I feel like Steph should be in that conversation, too, though.
[1:18:30] Speaker 1: Too little. He changed the game.
[1:18:33] Speaker 2: He's too little.
[1:18:34] Speaker 1: I think a one-on-one at some point, too. He changed
[1:18:36] Speaker 1: the game, though. I think Steph couldn't guard none of
[1:18:40] Speaker 1: them guys. That's why. Like, I put Kobe next to Steph,
[1:18:43] Speaker 1: or Jordan next to Steph, Bron next to Steph. Can
[1:18:46] Speaker 1: they guard him? I think so. Mm.
[1:18:52] Speaker 2: So, let's move over to this side of the couch.
[1:18:54] Speaker 2: I see wardrobe change.
[1:18:57] Speaker 1: I do put him up there. You all right? Good. Me? Damn,
[1:19:07] Speaker 1: what did I do? Why am I getting hit? You
[1:19:09] Speaker 1: all right? Yeah, we good. You good? Mm-hmm.
[1:19:11] Speaker 3: All right, what's up? You ever had a three-peat before?
[1:19:17] Speaker 3: On the basketball court or just in life?
[1:19:20] Speaker 1: Just your goat. Oh. No, he never. Huh? He never.
[1:19:25] Speaker 2: A powerful two-peat, though. Powerful two-peat.
[1:19:28] Speaker 1: Two-peat. It's a difficult thing to do. Three-one. One of
[1:19:32] Speaker 1: them got it twice. Number 23. MJ.
[1:19:35] Speaker 3: I think that's what makes you great. It's your ability
[1:19:40] Speaker 3: to dominate three years in a row. Lead the team.
[1:19:45] Speaker 3: Go play fucking baseball for two years, come back, do
[1:19:48] Speaker 3: it again. That's his fault. And you know, there was
[1:19:51] Speaker 3: another guy who was going to do it twice, but.
[1:19:53] Speaker 1: 2011 happened. Remember what happened in 2011? Yeah. CBA year?
[1:20:03] Speaker 3: Mm-hmm, mm-hmm.
[1:20:04] Speaker 1: Short season? Yeah. Yeah, Lakers got swept.
[1:20:06] Speaker 2: Swept.
[1:20:08] Speaker 1: Lakers?
[1:20:10] Speaker 3: That was a year everything changed for the Lakers. It
[1:20:12] Speaker 3: was a shit team. We was trying to figure out
[1:20:14] Speaker 3: how we were going to do three in a row
[1:20:16] Speaker 3: with Team Turmore.
[1:20:19] Speaker 1: But to have three in.
[1:20:20] Speaker 3: A row, three in a row between your goats, you
[1:20:23] Speaker 3: got to get three in a row. Greatness, dominance, no stats.
[1:20:31] Speaker 3: Give me three in a row. We have a conversation.
[1:20:36] Speaker 3: Robert Ory got three in a row, too. He in
[1:20:38] Speaker 3: the conversation.
[1:20:40] Speaker 1: Robert.
[1:20:40] Speaker 2: Yeah, Robert Ory.
[1:20:41] Speaker 1: He the GOAT of the whole.
[1:20:43] Speaker 3: Hey, Nick, you know Robert Ory is the GOAT corner
[1:20:46] Speaker 3: boy of all time.
[1:20:48] Speaker 1: He is.
[1:20:49] Speaker 3: All time.
[1:20:49] Speaker 1: Derrick Fisher got three in a row. Oh, the first three. Remember,
[1:20:52] Speaker 1: it's a team. So whoever was on that team for
[1:20:54] Speaker 1: those three years got three rings, too.
[1:20:56] Speaker 6: We just don't talk about them because no one cares.
[1:20:58] Speaker 6: You only use it when you want to separate greatness.
[1:21:00] Speaker 6: When you talk about the leader from that.
[1:21:02] Speaker 1: Team awards.
[1:21:02] Speaker 3: The leader who led. You know who has eight in
[1:21:04] Speaker 3: a row? When you talk about, yeah, Bill Russell. That's
[1:21:07] Speaker 3: the other GOAT, right?
[1:21:09] Speaker 1: And Bron got, what, nine appearances in a row?
[1:21:11] Speaker 3: Ten?
[1:21:12] Speaker 1: I think ten.
[1:21:14] Speaker 3: I would expect to have five straight championships at this point.
[1:21:19] Speaker 1: You expect to have how many? Five.
[1:21:20] Speaker 2: Much more competitive NBA nowadays.
[1:21:22] Speaker 1: You went to Miami and guaranteed seven. Pandemic. You guaranteed seven. Five.
[1:21:29] Speaker 1: Not two.
[1:21:30] Speaker 3: It was five.
[1:21:30] Speaker 1: It was like, not one, not two, not three.
[1:21:32] Speaker 5: He said not two, not three, but like to a hundred.
[1:21:35] Speaker 1: Not one, not two, not three. I think he was
[1:21:37] Speaker 1: referring to chocolate chip cookies. Not five, not six. But shit, man,
[1:21:42] Speaker 1: he had to play in San Antonio.
[1:21:44] Speaker 3: Yeah, everybody had a conversation, but nobody wanted to keep
[1:21:47] Speaker 3: it real.
[1:21:49] Speaker 2: This was not.
[1:21:50] Speaker 5: Lakers lost to San Antonio, too, man.
[1:21:55] Speaker 2: We weren't jumping into a go-to. We were merely talking
[1:21:57] Speaker 2: about Gil's mere appearance on First Tech on Friday.
[1:22:00] Speaker 1: So you don't think he deserves to be in the
[1:22:02] Speaker 1: competition at all? I think, like, as for my... Like,
[1:22:06] Speaker 1: my conversation behind the scenes was the same. I said,
[1:22:10] Speaker 1: because you can't look at your... How many championships did
[1:22:14] Speaker 1: Kareem lose? How many did Magic lose? Four.
[1:22:17] Speaker 6: No one knows the answers like that because it wasn't
[1:22:20] Speaker 6: pushed back then. It was only pushed greatness. Do not
[1:22:22] Speaker 6: push the failures. So we all know Jerry West.
[1:22:28] Speaker 1: In bronze because that was the narrative to be pushed
[1:22:31] Speaker 1: to keep everybody away.
[1:22:32] Speaker 6: So I said, you know, you can't have a campaign
[1:22:39] Speaker 6: that said, I want to be like Mike.
[1:22:42] Speaker 1: You made everybody in the world want to.
[1:22:45] Speaker 2: Be like Mike.
[1:22:47] Speaker 1: You can't. Why you can't? Because 6-0 is difficult.
[1:22:53] Speaker 3: It's damn near impossible for you to do 6-0 and
[1:22:57] Speaker 3: win and actually survive.
[1:22:59] Speaker 1: So Like Mike came out in 91.
[1:23:00] Speaker 6: It wasn't even three in a row at the time.
[1:23:03] Speaker 6: So the campaign was everybody let's be like Mike, the
[1:23:06] Speaker 6: Gatorade commercial. That's what the world was fit. That's what
[1:23:09] Speaker 6: all of us as kids was fit. Be like this man.
[1:23:13] Speaker 1: Be like him.
[1:23:14] Speaker 2: So we're like, oh, hell yeah.
[1:23:16] Speaker 6: To then realize if you actually tried to be like him,
[1:23:19] Speaker 6: you got your head cut off.
[1:23:21] Speaker 1: I said... Come on. That's a narrative, bro.
[1:23:24] Speaker 3: Who actually has tried to be like Mike and has
[1:23:27] Speaker 3: gotten their head chopped off?
[1:23:30] Speaker 6: Who? Every baby Jordan has done.
[1:23:35] Speaker 3: But name those people who were worthy of that comparison.
[1:23:37] Speaker 1: It don't matter. It does.
[1:23:38] Speaker 6: The idea is you're growing up trying to be like him.
[1:23:42] Speaker 3: But you're starting a narrative that there's a hundred different
[1:23:47] Speaker 3: players that has been lined up and compared to Michael
[1:23:49] Speaker 3: Jordan and got ripped apart.
[1:23:52] Speaker 1: That is not true.
[1:23:53] Speaker 3: There's only one player that's ever been truly compared to
[1:23:59] Speaker 3: Michael Jeffrey Jordan.
[1:24:01] Speaker 1: And he got absolutely obliterated. Every time. Every single time.
[1:24:07] Speaker 1: Right there, the jersey he got on. Okay, so that's one.
[1:24:10] Speaker 1: So he proved my point. Baby Jordan. The only one.
[1:24:13] Speaker 1: The only one. Harold Minor was called Baby Jordan. From
[1:24:17] Speaker 1: the dunk contest. Coming in, he was called Baby Jordan.
[1:24:20] Speaker 3: Bro, it started in the dunk contest where him and
[1:24:23] Speaker 3: Glenn Rice won.
[1:24:24] Speaker 1: How he have his 30th year? But he went to SC.
[1:24:28] Speaker 6: He wasn't even old enough to know this stuff.
[1:24:31] Speaker 1: I was. I was watching it. I was watching it
[1:24:33] Speaker 1: in real time. So again, the point was....
[1:24:38] Speaker 6: Everybody was trying to be him. That was the greatness.
[1:24:41] Speaker 6: That's what you're telling me. This is the promised land.
[1:24:43] Speaker 1: Okay.
[1:24:44] Speaker 6: For kids to really try to mimic themselves after this guy, right?
[1:24:49] Speaker 6: And then when players were actually trying to do it,
[1:24:52] Speaker 6: he was getting knocked down for it. We didn't know
[1:24:53] Speaker 6: there was a prison that was surrounding people trying.
[1:24:56] Speaker 1: To shoot at anybody who came.
[1:24:59] Speaker 6: So you were scarring up everybody trying to get to
[1:25:01] Speaker 6: this castle. You should have told that us from the beginning.
[1:25:04] Speaker 3: Bro, look at how you making that sound, bro. You're
[1:25:06] Speaker 3: being so dramatic with making it sound like being compared
[1:25:10] Speaker 3: to Michael Jordan is the worst thing you could.
[1:25:13] Speaker 1: Ever fucking do.
[1:25:15] Speaker 3: Chris Brown got compared to Michael Jackson.
[1:25:18] Speaker 1: And you know what happened to Chris Brown because of it?
[1:25:21] Speaker 1: They were trying to, they tanked him.
[1:25:23] Speaker 3: Expectation. The only thing you can do is disappoint me
[1:25:29] Speaker 3: because you don't reach Michael Jackson.
[1:25:31] Speaker 1: But guess what happens at number two? He's proving my point.
[1:25:33] Speaker 1: You're number two, right? He's proving the point.
[1:25:34] Speaker 3: If you're number two, that means you're so great that
[1:25:37] Speaker 3: if we see Michael Jackson as being this and you're compared,
[1:25:40] Speaker 3: you have to be.
[1:25:41] Speaker 1: Better than everybody else. You have to be clearly.
[1:25:45] Speaker 3: Better than everybody else if we compare you to him.
[1:25:49] Speaker 3: And our media won't let you be better than him,
[1:25:52] Speaker 3: so you can just take this spot.
[1:25:54] Speaker 1: Again, like I.
[1:25:55] Speaker 6: Said, since he proved the point, if this is paradise
[1:25:59] Speaker 6: and someone that's worthy of going to it, first it
[1:26:02] Speaker 6: was Kobe.
[1:26:03] Speaker 1: He's going to it. What are they doing to him?
[1:26:05] Speaker 1: While he's on this road, they're dirtying him up all
[1:26:09] Speaker 1: the way there. So by the time he gets to
[1:26:10] Speaker 1: the door, he's dirty.
[1:26:12] Speaker 3: There's plenty of videos saying Kobe Bryant says, I'm so
[1:26:16] Speaker 3: grateful for what I had to go through to be
[1:26:18] Speaker 3: here because I would not be here.
[1:26:21] Speaker 1: Let Gil finish this. You just be saying bullshit. You
[1:26:25] Speaker 1: saying it against the homies. When you go, you can go.
[1:26:28] Speaker 6: If this is a clean slate of a player, paradise, clean,
[1:26:33] Speaker 6: and this is where Kobe's trying to get to and
[1:26:36] Speaker 6: they're dirtying him up. When he finishes his career, he's
[1:26:40] Speaker 6: not clean enough.
[1:26:41] Speaker 1: To be here.
[1:26:43] Speaker 3: LeBron, 22 years trying to get to this spot, and
[1:26:47] Speaker 3: they're dirtying him up.
[1:26:48] Speaker 1: The whole way there.
[1:26:50] Speaker 3: So by the time he gets there, they're saying, ah,
[1:26:54] Speaker 3: you didn't do this, this, this, this, this to get.
[1:26:56] Speaker 1: In this door.
[1:26:57] Speaker 6: So anybody who is trying to seek that road... Because
[1:27:01] Speaker 6: there's guardians over it. They're not going to let you
[1:27:05] Speaker 6: walk this path. See, remember, he wasn't compared to anybody.
[1:27:08] Speaker 6: So he got to walk his path how he wanted to.
[1:27:10] Speaker 6: The other two is like, I want to go down
[1:27:12] Speaker 6: that road. And during the ride, they're sitting there dirtying.
[1:27:16] Speaker 1: Up the ride the whole time. Oh, you lost this.
[1:27:19] Speaker 1: You quit on this team. You did that. You did that.
[1:27:22] Speaker 6: You can't do that because they're still running their race.
[1:27:25] Speaker 6: You're trying to knock them off the race first. while
[1:27:28] Speaker 6: they're still trying to do it. That's the problem. You
[1:27:31] Speaker 6: want the easy road. Are you saying wait to.
[1:27:36] Speaker 1: The end and then add up everything instead of I
[1:27:40] Speaker 1: got you. You know what I mean?
[1:27:41] Speaker 6: It's like, you know, if you're scoring shots, oh, you
[1:27:44] Speaker 6: miss again.
[1:27:44] Speaker 1: Oh, he's terrible. You do it. Oh, you missed what?
[1:27:46] Speaker 1: You missed this. You lost here. You lost that. You
[1:27:48] Speaker 1: lost this.
[1:27:48] Speaker 6: Like, damn, you finished my career.
[1:27:52] Speaker 2: Yeah, but people are impatient in this day and age.
[1:27:55] Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm going to say, like, the day that they start, they.
[1:27:58] Speaker 1: Talk shit about Mike, too, though. But everything wasn't good
[1:28:02] Speaker 1: about Michael Jordan back then. I don't know.
[1:28:04] Speaker 4: Everything everybody was not first of all you think everybody
[1:28:07] Speaker 4: just love Michael Jordan one person just winning winning every
[1:28:10] Speaker 4: game Every time to be an NBA you think they
[1:28:12] Speaker 4: just love that that's fucking up the game.
[1:28:14] Speaker 1: How about that made the game people?
[1:28:16] Speaker 4: They love Michael Jordan when he was done hooping the
[1:28:18] Speaker 4: same way that they gonna love Kobe the same way
[1:28:20] Speaker 4: they gonna love Everybody's gonna go through some type of.
[1:28:23] Speaker 3: Negative in your career talking. I want to interrupt I
[1:28:27] Speaker 3: want to be like Mike Not really Not really.
[1:28:30] Speaker 1: I was a Pistons fan growing up. Yeah, like, people
[1:28:33] Speaker 1: were fans of others. You had Boston, you had New York.
[1:28:35] Speaker 4: You think they appreciated Michael.
[1:28:37] Speaker 1: Jordan, but man, they was.
[1:28:38] Speaker 6: Hey, the smartest man in history, the smartest man in history.
[1:28:42] Speaker 1: Was Charles Barkley. It was the big man league.
[1:28:45] Speaker 6: Charles Barkley, when he came out and said, I am
[1:28:47] Speaker 6: not a role model. They said, so you're not trying
[1:28:50] Speaker 6: to get the Jordan? He was like, no, I'm not
[1:28:53] Speaker 6: a role model.
[1:28:53] Speaker 1: You know what? MVP. Boy, you're going to get your MVP. MVP.
[1:28:57] Speaker 1: Give it to him. Nah. Nah. Cemetery Larry, anything you'd
[1:29:00] Speaker 1: like to say before we move on? Kill AI for
[1:29:02] Speaker 1: that shit.
[1:29:03] Speaker 3: Cemetery Larry, what would you like to say before we
[1:29:06] Speaker 3: move on to current NBA topics? The people who want
[1:29:09] Speaker 3: to gatekeep the truth, they can't gatekeep the truth no more.
[1:29:14] Speaker 3: And guys who feel like just because they reached a
[1:29:16] Speaker 3: certain status, they can talk about certain shit, man, the
[1:29:19] Speaker 3: corner boys are here to talk, too. We're going to
[1:29:22] Speaker 3: tell y'all niggas how and who we think is the motherfucker.
[1:29:25] Speaker 3: Because we helped build the motherfuckers. So the corner boys
[1:29:29] Speaker 3: gotta say, and who is who, and what is what,
[1:29:31] Speaker 3: and who we respect, who should be in our list
[1:29:35] Speaker 3: and be in forefront. Cause y'all niggas done had the
[1:29:37] Speaker 3: floor for so long. You got the money, the fame,
[1:29:40] Speaker 3: the floor, everything. Now we come in the room and
[1:29:42] Speaker 3: y'all niggas get tight, and it gets sensitive as shit,
[1:29:45] Speaker 3: and we can't say shit. Now all of a sudden
[1:29:48] Speaker 3: we criticizing too much.
[1:29:49] Speaker 1: What players?
[1:29:50] Speaker 3: It ain't the niggas that's been doing it and getting
[1:29:52] Speaker 3: paid hundreds of millions of dollars.
[1:29:54] Speaker 1: They not doing it. They the homies. But shit, we
[1:29:58] Speaker 1: got homies too.
[1:29:59] Speaker 3: Corner boys and the niggas that ain't never can't get
[1:30:01] Speaker 3: no interview because you ain't did enough. We can say
[1:30:04] Speaker 3: Kobe is the best and niggas don't look at us crazy.
[1:30:08] Speaker 3: We got proof. We ain't got to say Braun, this, this, this, this,
[1:30:12] Speaker 3: he's bad. But God damn, can we say something? Can
[1:30:14] Speaker 3: we have a voice? Can we have fans that respect
[1:30:17] Speaker 3: our opinion too?
[1:30:19] Speaker 1: Shit.
[1:30:20] Speaker 2: Is anybody saying that you can't have it?
[1:30:21] Speaker 1: I'm just saying.
[1:30:22] Speaker 3: Do we have to holler for all this shit, man?
[1:30:24] Speaker 1: It's all right.
[1:30:25] Speaker 2: We respect your opinion. You ain't done shit.
[1:30:27] Speaker 1: You ain't this.
[1:30:28] Speaker 3: It's like, man, I know a lot of motherfuckers hit
[1:30:29] Speaker 3: me up talking about, hey, keep talking your shit, shot.
[1:30:32] Speaker 1: Talk for us, bro. I feel you.
[1:30:35] Speaker 2: So voice of the corner boys.
[1:30:37] Speaker 1: Nick inspired me, though. Nick inspired me. He inspired me.
[1:30:39] Speaker 1: I ain't gonna lie. But no glaze, though. All hate.
[1:30:43] Speaker 2: No glaze.
[1:30:43] Speaker 1: All hate. I hear you. I mean, we are the
[1:30:48] Speaker 1: media today. You did play.
[1:30:49] Speaker 2: In the league. No glaze, no beating.
[1:30:52] Speaker 1: What are you not seeing?
[1:30:52] Speaker 2: I don't know if he's disagree.
[1:30:54] Speaker 1: I don't know what.
[1:30:57] Speaker 2: Is he saying Kobe's won.
[1:30:58] Speaker 1: And Jordan didn't put out of that? No, he's just saying, like,
[1:31:01] Speaker 1: you know, like.
[1:31:02] Speaker 2: Respect the corner boys, I think, was the.
[1:31:04] Speaker 1: Like, his people that he liked got. Thrash, too.
[1:31:08] Speaker 4: So Kobe got thrashed way more than LeBron did.
[1:31:11] Speaker 1: But I said the same thing.
[1:31:12] Speaker 6: Whoever goes after that name got trashed. And I'm saying
[1:31:15] Speaker 6: you just let everybody finish their career. Then you judge it.
[1:31:19] Speaker 6: How you gave him a clean slate to try to
[1:31:22] Speaker 6: do his career, do the same for everybody else. Don't
[1:31:25] Speaker 6: wait till one loses. Then you say, oh, you can't
[1:31:27] Speaker 6: be the GOAT because he was six for six.
[1:31:29] Speaker 1: You can't do that.
[1:31:31] Speaker 6: You got to let people play their what's-her-name out.
[1:31:34] Speaker 1: What about this?
[1:31:35] Speaker 5: If Say if LeBron had a Tom Brady career.
[1:31:39] Speaker 1: Do you still compare? What is a Tom Brady career?
[1:31:43] Speaker 1: Seven rings. If he had the rings to match. He's
[1:31:45] Speaker 1: also in the Super Bowl, too, still.
[1:31:46] Speaker 5: But nobody's going to say it. Brady is the GOAT
[1:31:48] Speaker 5: because he got all the rings, right?
[1:31:50] Speaker 2: But he's still lost in the Super Bowl. And the
[1:31:52] Speaker 2: football may or may not have been deflated. Seven Super
[1:31:54] Speaker 2: Bowl rings.
[1:31:56] Speaker 6: But he wasn't considered a GOAT at seven Super Bowl rings.
[1:32:00] Speaker 6: That's just what he finished with. So you got to
[1:32:03] Speaker 6: think about when these people got coined.
[1:32:06] Speaker 1: I think once he got more than.
[1:32:10] Speaker 5: Joe Montana, I think that's when he became.
[1:32:12] Speaker 1: Who's the best baseball player ever? Is it Barry Bonds?
[1:32:18] Speaker 1: Nolan Ryan? How many championships Barry Bonds has? Okay. You can't, you,
[1:32:27] Speaker 1: it doesn't work. Like, there's a team.
[1:32:30] Speaker 6: Award where we have good teams, and then there's individual awards.
[1:32:34] Speaker 1: You have to.
[1:32:35] Speaker 3: You just asked one person, you asked one person who
[1:32:39] Speaker 3: the greatest baseball player of all time.
[1:32:41] Speaker 1: Was, and he told you. No, he said that. I
[1:32:43] Speaker 1: said Nolan Ryan.
[1:32:44] Speaker 3: All right, he said that. He said, and then if
[1:32:46] Speaker 3: you would have said Roger Clemens or Derek Jeter or
[1:32:50] Speaker 3: somebody else, that whole conversation changes because he's a champion.
[1:32:55] Speaker 3: Derek Jeter's a champion. And then you got certain players
[1:32:58] Speaker 3: that are champions and are really, really good. There's a
[1:33:02] Speaker 3: reason why, and that's the reason why.
[1:33:04] Speaker 2: So let's talk about a player who was a champion,
[1:33:07] Speaker 2: now has since moved on, Lakers governor. Jeannie Buss not
[1:33:10] Speaker 2: spoken much about the blockbuster Luka for AD trade, but
[1:33:14] Speaker 2: in a recent interview with NPR, she shed some light
[1:33:16] Speaker 2: on the deal from the Lakers' perspective, saying, quote, good picture,
[1:33:22] Speaker 2: he was a good pitcher. So Jeannie said, we have
[1:33:24] Speaker 2: lost the last three years in a row to the
[1:33:26] Speaker 2: Denver Nuggets in the playoffs, and we really didn't have
[1:33:28] Speaker 2: anything that was going to look different going into the
[1:33:30] Speaker 2: playoffs again. Anthony Davis was complaining about where he was
[1:33:33] Speaker 2: being played, and he wasn't happy. So I think this
[1:33:36] Speaker 2: was a positive for both teams. They got what they
[1:33:38] Speaker 2: were looking for. We got what we were looking for.
[1:33:40] Speaker 2: First off, Jeannie, Lakers did not lose to the Nuggets
[1:33:43] Speaker 2: three times in the playoffs. They only lost twice. in
[1:33:46] Speaker 2: the hardest sweep in NBA history in 2023, followed by
[1:33:49] Speaker 2: the hardest gentleman sweep in 2024. This is not debatable.
[1:33:52] Speaker 2: This is according to the media.
[1:33:53] Speaker 1: Wait, wait, wait. I know, I know, I know. So,
[1:33:56] Speaker 1: so Stephen A. Swift has LeBron number one. We were
[1:34:00] Speaker 1: so close, Steve. Right? So that's what he was saying?
[1:34:03] Speaker 1: That's what it was?
[1:34:04] Speaker 2: We were so close.
[1:34:05] Speaker 1: Okay.
[1:34:07] Speaker 2: Oh, but now we're talking about Jeannie Buss and her
[1:34:09] Speaker 2: comments about Anthony Marshawn Davis.
[1:34:10] Speaker 6: So now the media is going to turn their tide and.
[1:34:18] Speaker 1: It's all your preference. Is it stats? Who said the
[1:34:21] Speaker 1: goat debate? The curry. It was Raymond, right? Raymond said that, yeah.
[1:34:27] Speaker 2: And then Shaq said that curry belongs in the goat debate.
[1:34:30] Speaker 1: Yeah, between... Seemingly after. The part is... Seemingly after.
[1:34:35] Speaker 6: They don't know what a debate actually looks like. A
[1:34:39] Speaker 6: debate is... It's... Whoever they have number one, right?
[1:34:44] Speaker 1: You got.
[1:34:46] Speaker 6: Jordan's number one, then LeBron James is in the debate,
[1:34:51] Speaker 6: Curry's in the debate, and Kevin.
[1:34:54] Speaker 1: Durant is in the debate. That's the debate. They're the
[1:34:58] Speaker 1: active players that still.
[1:35:00] Speaker 6: Are creating accolades to.
[1:35:04] Speaker 1: Try to surpass whoever number one is, Michael Jordan. If
[1:35:08] Speaker 1: Kareem can't be in the debate.
[1:35:10] Speaker 6: He hasn't played in 35 years. I'm not going to
[1:35:12] Speaker 6: turn on the TV or they're going to find Accolade
[1:35:15] Speaker 6: somewhere hiding where they can add to his resume. He
[1:35:18] Speaker 6: didn't jump number one, right? So he can't be part
[1:35:22] Speaker 6: of the debate anymore. He's done, right? Cole's career is finished.
[1:35:25] Speaker 6: When he finished, he didn't pass Michael Jordan. So he's
[1:35:29] Speaker 6: not actually part of the debate anymore. The players who
[1:35:33] Speaker 6: are done are actually considered out of it.
[1:35:36] Speaker 1: It's whoever's coming up that's racing. So that's LeBron? How's
[1:35:40] Speaker 1: Michael Jordan still in it? Because he's the top. If
[1:35:43] Speaker 1: he's number one, everyone's chasing number one.
[1:35:47] Speaker 3: But everybody that was being chased had already retired.
[1:35:50] Speaker 1: What?
[1:35:51] Speaker 3: Everyone that was being chased has already retired.
[1:35:54] Speaker 1: So if he's number one, right? If he's number one. Okay,
[1:35:58] Speaker 1: let's try that shooting. Shooting. Who's the best shooter in
[1:36:00] Speaker 1: the world? Steph Curry.
[1:36:01] Speaker 2: Steph Curry.
[1:36:02] Speaker 6: So Ray Allen and Reggie Miller are not part of
[1:36:05] Speaker 6: the best in the world. They're not in the gold
[1:36:07] Speaker 6: debate of shooting. They're done. So it's basically whoever is
[1:36:11] Speaker 6: active coming along will be compared to Steph.
[1:36:15] Speaker 1: He is holding the top.
[1:36:17] Speaker 6: If your resume is done and you didn't surpass him,
[1:36:20] Speaker 6: you're technically not in it.
[1:36:22] Speaker 1: Like, what are you going to.
[1:36:24] Speaker 3: Ah, so that would mean the only reason for me
[1:36:26] Speaker 3: to continue playing is to surpass.
[1:36:29] Speaker 2: If you haven't Or because you love basketball.
[1:36:32] Speaker 1: I mean, if you haven't passed.
[1:36:34] Speaker 3: That makes more sense now. Because if I'm not winning
[1:36:37] Speaker 3: while I'm still playing, I'm just playing to pass everybody.
[1:36:40] Speaker 2: But what if you are still winning while you're still playing?
[1:36:42] Speaker 1: But you're not.
[1:36:43] Speaker 2: But what if you are currently not? Let's say you're
[1:36:46] Speaker 2: on a team that's second in the Western Conference.
[1:36:47] Speaker 1: What is second? Does second mean you won? That means
[1:36:49] Speaker 1: you're in the process of winning.
[1:36:50] Speaker 3: Second means you're second.
[1:36:52] Speaker 1: But you're trying to get the first, right? Are you
[1:36:55] Speaker 1: trying to get the first points? Are you trying to get.
[1:36:58] Speaker 2: So he's second right now.
[1:36:59] Speaker 6: If Jordan's one and he's second right now, he's still
[1:37:03] Speaker 6: trying to get the number one. So Steph Curry is
[1:37:06] Speaker 6: whoever Steph Curry or Katie, they're third and fourth trying
[1:37:10] Speaker 6: to get the number one.
[1:37:12] Speaker 1: Right?
[1:37:12] Speaker 6: They're still active. They still get to do that. Like,
[1:37:15] Speaker 6: Steph can... What if Steph won the championship this year,
[1:37:17] Speaker 6: then next year?
[1:37:18] Speaker 1: Right? He can still keep going.
[1:37:21] Speaker 3: But that just sounds like you just made new rules
[1:37:23] Speaker 3: for me.
[1:37:24] Speaker 1: No, that's just a rule. Nobody's ever heard that shit.
[1:37:27] Speaker 1: Of course.
[1:37:28] Speaker 3: How has it been the rule if we never heard it?
[1:37:31] Speaker 3: How can you be second 35 years straight, and then
[1:37:35] Speaker 3: all of a sudden we're still arguing that you are, what,
[1:37:38] Speaker 3: the GOATs?
[1:37:39] Speaker 1: That doesn't even make sense.
[1:37:40] Speaker 2: Who is he talking about?
[1:37:42] Speaker 6: Like somebody said, oh, Kareem is part of the GOAT debate.
[1:37:45] Speaker 6: You've been arguing for Kareem for 35 years. You ain't
[1:37:49] Speaker 6: put him on yet? If you ain't put him on yet,
[1:37:52] Speaker 6: fuck off. Dude, what are we talking about? Like, just
[1:37:56] Speaker 6: think about what I'm saying.
[1:37:58] Speaker 1: There's nothing that's going to happen.
[1:37:59] Speaker 6: There's no Kareem Sacks you're going to find that's.
[1:38:03] Speaker 1: Going to say, aha, I got some more shit. Let's
[1:38:07] Speaker 1: go back to the debate.
[1:38:10] Speaker 3: He wants the girl to show up and not be
[1:38:11] Speaker 3: compared to any of the other girls that have been
[1:38:14] Speaker 3: here before.
[1:38:15] Speaker 1: That's what he wants.
[1:38:16] Speaker 3: He wants to be the only one to walk up
[1:38:18] Speaker 3: and don't have to take the measurement test of, man,
[1:38:21] Speaker 3: we done had Eve over here, we done had Melissa
[1:38:24] Speaker 3: over here, and you got to line up to them
[1:38:28] Speaker 3: to even go upstairs. You getting in is you cool.
[1:38:33] Speaker 3: You cool getting in, but now to get upstairs, there's requirements.
[1:38:40] Speaker 3: And you don't fit them requirements, so you got to
[1:38:42] Speaker 3: stay on the main floor.
[1:38:44] Speaker 1: I don't get it. You know you get access to
[1:38:46] Speaker 1: the refrigerator. Yeah, to the TV.
[1:38:48] Speaker 8: Yeah, yeah, yeah.
[1:38:49] Speaker 1: Outside balcony. Yeah, balcony. But not up there, though. You
[1:38:51] Speaker 1: can't go upstairs. Man, you don't fit the requirement.
[1:38:53] Speaker 3: And he wants to be the girl that's like, well,
[1:38:55] Speaker 3: why you keep comparing me to other people? Because there's
[1:38:59] Speaker 3: been some elite motherfuckers that have been through here.
[1:39:01] Speaker 1: What? You have to be compared. I don't get it.
[1:39:06] Speaker 1: I'm lost.
[1:39:07] Speaker 5: How did Steph surpass Magic, but LeBron can't surpass Jordan?
[1:39:11] Speaker 5: But Magic got more accolades and everything and stuff.
[1:39:13] Speaker 1: Magic, no, but what I'm saying is Magic is not
[1:39:15] Speaker 1: the GOAT, right?
[1:39:17] Speaker 5: But ain't he the GOAT from point guards? Yes, but Steph-
[1:39:19] Speaker 5: But ain't the standards, you gotta get the MVPs and
[1:39:21] Speaker 5: the rings and all that? No, what I'm saying is,
[1:39:22] Speaker 5: but Curry is still playing.
[1:39:23] Speaker 1: So he has a chance. If he's not in front
[1:39:25] Speaker 1: of Magic in.
[1:39:26] Speaker 6: People's mind, he's still playing to get past Magic.
[1:39:29] Speaker 1: And Steph said he- But look, that's what he said.
[1:39:31] Speaker 1: He's still playing. But Magic said, Magic said, you gotta
[1:39:33] Speaker 1: get all of these things.
[1:39:34] Speaker 6: That's what I'm saying, you gotta get all, but people
[1:39:35] Speaker 6: don't mention that.
[1:39:36] Speaker 1: People don't even say that in the world.
[1:39:38] Speaker 6: But he's still playing, so he has a chance.
[1:39:40] Speaker 1: But if he doesn't, does still playing count? Is that enough?
[1:39:45] Speaker 1: If he don't get none of this shit? When Steph retires,
[1:39:48] Speaker 1: if the consensus is he didn't pass, he's what's his name?
[1:39:53] Speaker 1: And he's number two? He's number two. That means he's
[1:39:56] Speaker 1: not part of the division. But for a reason, though.
[1:39:58] Speaker 3: Why is he number two? because he didn't reach my rank.
[1:40:03] Speaker 1: All of that shit.
[1:40:06] Speaker 6: But we don't know why he will fall to number two.
[1:40:08] Speaker 1: Right now, if he's two, you know exactly why he
[1:40:12] Speaker 1: falls to two. No, he's two right now. But you
[1:40:16] Speaker 1: know why.
[1:40:16] Speaker 3: It don't matter why, but he's still playing, so it
[1:40:19] Speaker 3: don't matter.
[1:40:20] Speaker 6: We got to wait till his resume is over with,
[1:40:22] Speaker 6: then we can compare.
[1:40:23] Speaker 1: Right now, he's two.
[1:40:24] Speaker 3: But how can we compare? You said it don't matter
[1:40:26] Speaker 3: why he's two. It would matter so we know how
[1:40:29] Speaker 3: to surpass it.
[1:40:30] Speaker 1: You need to tell me why I'm two. Yes, so
[1:40:33] Speaker 1: why is he two? Tell me why I'm two.
[1:40:35] Speaker 3: Is Steph two.
[1:40:37] Speaker 1: Because he has four rings? Why is Steph two? So
[1:40:41] Speaker 1: why is he two to you? You got more points
[1:40:43] Speaker 1: than Magic? Hold on. Hold on. This is trapping him.
[1:40:45] Speaker 1: I mean, not you. Okay, but why? Magic is one.
[1:40:49] Speaker 1: Why is he number two? I said consensus have him
[1:40:51] Speaker 1: number two. Why is he number two?
[1:40:53] Speaker 3: No, people haven't won.
[1:40:56] Speaker 1: I'm asking you.
[1:40:57] Speaker 5: I'm asking because they got them won.
[1:41:02] Speaker 1: No, no, no.
[1:41:03] Speaker 2: They don't have Steph won yet.
[1:41:04] Speaker 5: Why do they do that for Steph and not for LeBron?
[1:41:07] Speaker 1: I don't know. Can Sistis have Steph number one yet?
[1:41:09] Speaker 1: I don't know. I hear Steph number two.
[1:41:12] Speaker 2: Quickly, so we can move on.
[1:41:14] Speaker 1: Because he has four rings. We asked the chat if
[1:41:17] Speaker 1: we should move on to the next topic. 97% said yes.
[1:41:20] Speaker 1: I tell people to have a number one. I ain't
[1:41:21] Speaker 1: gonna lie. No, people do, but I don't know what
[1:41:24] Speaker 1: you're saying. I hear what you're saying. Because the thing
[1:41:27] Speaker 1: is about Jordan.
[1:41:28] Speaker 3: He want to move on when he tired. And when
[1:41:32] Speaker 3: we tired, he want to stay on the same topic.
[1:41:35] Speaker 1: You never get tired.
[1:41:36] Speaker 2: You never get tired.
[1:41:37] Speaker 1: We know who you work with.
[1:41:38] Speaker 3: You want to get off the topic now.
[1:41:42] Speaker 1: We're on his neck, nigga. Tell him to get off
[1:41:44] Speaker 1: the topic. We're on his goddamn neck. Tell him to
[1:41:46] Speaker 1: get off the topic. Tell him, Joe. Only you are personal.
[1:41:49] Speaker 1: Tell him, Joe.
[1:41:50] Speaker 2: You are only personal with yourself.
[1:41:52] Speaker 1: You got the earbud in. You ain't listening.
[1:41:54] Speaker 3: They about to tell you. I'm actually listening to the
[1:41:56] Speaker 3: Jamiroquai hits.
[1:41:57] Speaker 1: Tell him, Joe. You want to switch up the topic
[1:41:59] Speaker 1: and shit when we cooking and shit. It would be.
[1:42:02] Speaker 1: That's what I was saying. Let me find out the
[1:42:06] Speaker 1: producer's work over there. Since this has magic. And shout
[1:42:09] Speaker 1: out Jamiroquai. Shout out Jamiroquai. See, I don't do my personal.
[1:42:13] Speaker 1: I do consensus. He's the greatest point guard, though. So
[1:42:16] Speaker 1: they have Magic as one and Steph as two. And
[1:42:19] Speaker 1: Oscar Robinson as three.
[1:42:20] Speaker 6: So how I or how you're supposed to process it,
[1:42:24] Speaker 6: Oscar Robinson, right, he's done.
[1:42:26] Speaker 1: He's been done for a while. Okay. He is not
[1:42:28] Speaker 1: part of the point guard goat debate. I asked Gilbert.
[1:42:32] Speaker 1: Because he's done. Right? He's done.
[1:42:35] Speaker 6: There's nothing he can do to surpass one. So he's
[1:42:39] Speaker 6: not even in the conversation anymore.
[1:42:40] Speaker 1: So three is done. Four is done. Five is done.
[1:42:44] Speaker 1: Chris Paul, six.
[1:42:45] Speaker 6: Chris Paul would be right behind Steph for fighting for
[1:42:48] Speaker 6: the GOAT debate of point guard. Once your career is
[1:42:51] Speaker 6: done and you didn't go over, everybody else still has
[1:42:56] Speaker 6: a chance. That's how you're supposed to look at it, right?
[1:43:00] Speaker 6: Jerry West and all of them, they can't be in
[1:43:03] Speaker 6: the GOAT debate because there's nothing you can do to
[1:43:05] Speaker 6: surpass Magic.
[1:43:06] Speaker 5: But what they did should be, you should talk about it,
[1:43:09] Speaker 5: like compare, right?
[1:43:10] Speaker 1: I can't compare. You're done.
[1:43:12] Speaker 3: So in order for Kobe to have surpassed Mike, he
[1:43:15] Speaker 3: would have had to have gotten six titles.
[1:43:17] Speaker 1: No, if that's your personal criteria. I'm asking. I just
[1:43:20] Speaker 1: asked the question. I'm asking, bro. You're using titles. I
[1:43:25] Speaker 1: just asked. I didn't use shit. I asked a question. Okay.
[1:43:29] Speaker 1: Listen to the question. Kobe Bryant. Kobe Bryant.
[1:43:33] Speaker 3: If he gets six titles, does he become better than
[1:43:36] Speaker 3: Michael Jordan?
[1:43:38] Speaker 1: What about the eighth floor? You don't want to ask.
[1:43:40] Speaker 3: You're answering a question with a question.
[1:43:43] Speaker 1: I'm asking... How about score eight scoring titles, right?
[1:43:50] Speaker 6: Four finals MVPs, a defensive player of the year. I mean,
[1:43:55] Speaker 6: there's things that's other besides a team accolade.
[1:43:59] Speaker 1: Oh, so we got to put the whole thing. An
[1:44:00] Speaker 1: individual accolade.
[1:44:01] Speaker 3: This is not the best player. That's called moving the
[1:44:04] Speaker 3: goalpost when you don't have an answer. You're moving.
[1:44:09] Speaker 1: He's literally haven't answered the question.
[1:44:10] Speaker 6: You're using one accolade that has team awards.
[1:44:13] Speaker 1: You might as well do the Macarena, my nigga. I'm
[1:44:16] Speaker 1: saying the guy at top has team awards. Ten scoring titles.
[1:44:19] Speaker 1: Are we just going to pretend that's not a thing? No, okay.
[1:44:21] Speaker 3: He has four finals MVPs. Are we going to forget
[1:44:24] Speaker 3: that thing?
[1:44:24] Speaker 6: He has five MVPs. Are we going to pretend that?
[1:44:28] Speaker 6: And we're just going to use a T-ball?
[1:44:29] Speaker 1: That's not what I asked. I asked a specific question. No,
[1:44:33] Speaker 1: if he got another championship, no.
[1:44:36] Speaker 3: So he surpassed him in points all time.
[1:44:39] Speaker 1: Mm-hmm. Yeah. Mm-hmm. He also played longer.
[1:44:42] Speaker 3: And didn't get six. But before he surpassed him, all
[1:44:45] Speaker 3: they said was, Kobe got to get.
[1:44:47] Speaker 1: Six to be better than Mike. Who said that? The
[1:44:50] Speaker 1: same people you saved. Oh, shit. Who said that? Oh, shit. Oh, shit. Oh,
[1:44:54] Speaker 1: what consensus. You ain't going to just ask, Steve? Why
[1:45:00] Speaker 1: don't you just ask Steve? Just say, Steve. Hey, Steve,
[1:45:03] Speaker 1: who's the greatest baseball player of all time? Oh, yeah,
[1:45:06] Speaker 1: what Steve said. Yeah, so Steve is the consensus. I've
[1:45:09] Speaker 1: been talking normal, so we know what you're talking about.
[1:45:11] Speaker 1: Get the fuck out of here, man.
[1:45:12] Speaker 3: That's how you sound when you're talking bullshit to me.
[1:45:16] Speaker 6: The consensus said what again? The consensus said if he
[1:45:20] Speaker 6: won another championship, he would.
[1:45:23] Speaker 1: Be better than Michael Jordan. Yeah, Kobe Bryant had six.
[1:45:26] Speaker 1: They said he would be better.
[1:45:27] Speaker 6: Consensus never actually had Kobe Bryant in the top five yet.
[1:45:32] Speaker 1: All right, now he's telling us the consensus.
[1:45:33] Speaker 3: If you go year by year and say top ten
[1:45:36] Speaker 3: ranking every year from 2012, 13, 14, 15, 16, Kobe
[1:45:38] Speaker 3: Bryant never was in.
[1:45:40] Speaker 2: The top five of consensus. The census burrow.
[1:45:46] Speaker 6: So right now in consensus, he's nine or ten.
[1:45:49] Speaker 1: Oh, man. I don't know.
[1:45:53] Speaker 6: Everybody, two, three, four, five, six, seven, eight, nine, they
[1:45:57] Speaker 6: all have multiple MVPs.
[1:46:00] Speaker 1: MVPs.
[1:46:01] Speaker 3: That's one thing that actually hurts Kobe's argument.
[1:46:04] Speaker 1: From the consensus. So not five rings? Teams. Do you
[1:46:10] Speaker 1: hear what he's saying?
[1:46:11] Speaker 3: Team success is not a part of your greatness.
[1:46:14] Speaker 1: It's not a part of your greatness.
[1:46:16] Speaker 3: Being a leader and dominating in a leadership position.
[1:46:19] Speaker 1: All I heard was six rings. Three piece.
[1:46:22] Speaker 3: All I heard was six rings.
[1:46:25] Speaker 1: I never heard about the MVPs and shit. How about this?
[1:46:28] Speaker 1: I know they didn't tell you. Why is Steph... They
[1:46:30] Speaker 1: didn't tell you.
[1:46:30] Speaker 6: Because if you look at the list, when Steph is finished.
[1:46:38] Speaker 1: He has two MVPs, four titles, two fighters. He's going
[1:46:45] Speaker 1: to be pushed in there.
[1:46:48] Speaker 6: It's the accolades, man.
[1:46:50] Speaker 1: I thought it was about rings.
[1:46:51] Speaker 3: I didn't know we were adding all this other stuff
[1:46:53] Speaker 3: to it.
[1:46:53] Speaker 1: That's what they started using.
[1:46:55] Speaker 4: That wasn't part of it. See, I thought it was
[1:46:58] Speaker 4: about rings. I didn't know because if we're starting to
[1:47:00] Speaker 4: break down stuff, then it's like.
[1:47:01] Speaker 1: It's your greatness as MVPs, first teams. You didn't think that.
[1:47:04] Speaker 1: That's what it was. You know that. I mean, everything's
[1:47:08] Speaker 1: been about rings. Everything's been about rings, though, growing up.
[1:47:11] Speaker 1: I know, but I'm just saying, that's what.
[1:47:13] Speaker 3: Hey, BJ, why do you think Mike did this? Because
[1:47:16] Speaker 3: he knew that's all that mattered.
[1:47:18] Speaker 1: Six of them! That's a... Six of them. What did
[1:47:22] Speaker 1: Kobe do?
[1:47:23] Speaker 3: Kobe did up there, he said, five.
[1:47:25] Speaker 1: Jordan never lost. I got one more to say.
[1:47:27] Speaker 6: I got one more to say.
[1:47:30] Speaker 1: That's your age, right? 92, 93 seasons.
[1:47:32] Speaker 6: How many rings did Jordan have? The coined GOAT, greatest of.
[1:47:38] Speaker 1: All time, came out in the 90s by LL Cool J.
[1:47:41] Speaker 6: They understood the greatest of all time in their sport.
[1:47:45] Speaker 6: So they started coining people in sports that Jordan in 92,
[1:47:50] Speaker 6: the 92, 92 threes, before he three-peated, was considered the
[1:47:54] Speaker 6: NBA version of the GOAT.
[1:47:57] Speaker 1: So this, when he was old.
[1:47:58] Speaker 6: Enough to know what this was, that wasn't even there.
[1:48:01] Speaker 1: In 92?
[1:48:02] Speaker 2: No, no, yeah.
[1:48:03] Speaker 1: But that's what I'm saying. He came in in the 80s.
[1:48:06] Speaker 1: And Bird was on his back. He came in in what, 84? Yeah.
[1:48:10] Speaker 1: Mike came in in 84? That's a lot of... Ain't
[1:48:12] Speaker 1: nobody playing with him at that time. Listen, the Goats,
[1:48:15] Speaker 1: how many rings did... He was the greatest in the league, yes.
[1:48:18] Speaker 1: You know, the best in the league. ever. That he
[1:48:21] Speaker 1: ever saved. What was Magic?
[1:48:22] Speaker 2: How many MVPs did Magic have?
[1:48:24] Speaker 1: How many Kareem? The man only had two.
[1:48:26] Speaker 6: Going to his third one, he was the greatest player
[1:48:28] Speaker 6: that ever touched the NBA floor.
[1:48:30] Speaker 1: He was the GOAT. So this wasn't a thing yet.
[1:48:34] Speaker 3: Sufficient GOAT discussion for this episode of Gil's Arena.
[1:48:38] Speaker 1: I think you should do NBA research. We will do
[1:48:42] Speaker 1: that this summer. Just understand your history.
[1:48:44] Speaker 3: Let's talk about the current National Basketball Association.
[1:48:49] Speaker 1: He's 10. It's consensus. I have them three in mind.
[1:48:53] Speaker 1: I'm saying consensus at them 10. Lord help us. Jesus Christ.
[1:48:57] Speaker 1: Now would be a good time. If it's your personal,
[1:48:58] Speaker 1: then it's reality.
[1:48:59] Speaker 2: Now would be a good time for you to download
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[1:49:05] Speaker 2: let's talk about the current Lakers squad. So we will
[1:49:09] Speaker 2: start this again. We will start this again, hopefully, with
[1:49:12] Speaker 2: no interruption or interference. Lakers Governor Jeannie.
[1:49:14] Speaker 3: Buss has not spoken much about the blockbuster Lucifer AD trade,
[1:49:18] Speaker 3: but in a recent interview with NPR, she shed some.
[1:49:20] Speaker 2: Light on the deal from the Lakers' perspective. Let's look
[1:49:22] Speaker 2: at that quote one more time, if we can. We
[1:49:25] Speaker 2: have lost the last three years in a row to
[1:49:26] Speaker 2: the Denver Nuggets in the playoffs, and we really didn't
[1:49:28] Speaker 2: have anything that was going to look different going into
[1:49:30] Speaker 2: the playoffs again. Anthony Davis was complaining about where he
[1:49:33] Speaker 2: was being played, and he wasn't happy. So I think
[1:49:35] Speaker 2: this was a positive for both teams. They got what
[1:49:37] Speaker 2: they were looking for. We got what we were looking for.
[1:49:39] Speaker 2: As a reminder, again, Lakers only lost twice to the
[1:49:41] Speaker 2: Nuggets in two of the hardest playoff series in NBA history.
[1:49:45] Speaker 2: AD played five and a half seasons with the Lakers,
[1:49:47] Speaker 2: selected to four All-Star games, two All-NBA teams, and won
[1:49:50] Speaker 2: a title in the bubble in 2020 during his tenure.
[1:49:54] Speaker 2: Did Jeannie Buss take a shot at AD or was
[1:49:56] Speaker 2: she just keeping it a buck? Kenny, I know you're
[1:49:58] Speaker 2: a spirited dominoes game right now, but we have shifted conversations.
[1:50:02] Speaker 2: We have shifted the topic. So you see what y'all started?
[1:50:07] Speaker 2: We did notice that Joe Budden and his podcast started hooping.
[1:50:10] Speaker 1: Didn't one of them tear their Achilles? Yeah, did you
[1:50:12] Speaker 1: see what y'all started?
[1:50:13] Speaker 2: That's why you got to stretch, ladies and gentlemen, if
[1:50:15] Speaker 2: you're not a real hooper. But do you think Jeannie
[1:50:17] Speaker 2: Buss is taking a shot at 8D or was she
[1:50:20] Speaker 2: just keeping it above?
[1:50:24] Speaker 1: This is my opinion. This is not a right now
[1:50:29] Speaker 1: conversation for owners. She shouldn't be making this statement right now,
[1:50:34] Speaker 1: in my opinion. This is off-season conversation. You made the deal.
[1:50:44] Speaker 1: You did it. There's no... You know what I'm saying? Like,
[1:50:50] Speaker 1: it's the same shit about... The same shit they did
[1:50:53] Speaker 1: to Luka, right? Talking about he's fat, out of shape,
[1:50:56] Speaker 1: all that shit, right? It's the same shit. Just... formed
[1:51:00] Speaker 1: in a different manner. So no, it's just, yeah, this
[1:51:03] Speaker 1: is ownership. It's a little sweeter. Yeah, it's a little
[1:51:06] Speaker 1: sweeter than, yeah, because it's coming from a woman's perspective.
[1:51:09] Speaker 1: She's trying to soften the blow a little bit.
[1:51:12] Speaker 2: So prior to that trade, though, AD did have comments
[1:51:15] Speaker 2: about being playing out of position.
[1:51:17] Speaker 1: We all know that.
[1:51:18] Speaker 2: Appeared to take a shot at the front office.
[1:51:19] Speaker 1: We all know that. And I understand.
[1:51:20] Speaker 2: I'm just saying.
[1:51:21] Speaker 1: But what he's saying is not false, right? If y'all deem,
[1:51:29] Speaker 1: if I've helped you win a championship and I've been
[1:51:33] Speaker 1: out here doing this night and I, I'm not asking
[1:51:38] Speaker 1: you to go out and get Nikola Jokic or Joel Embiid,
[1:51:42] Speaker 1: just give me somebody who like, so it's not a
[1:51:45] Speaker 1: huge action, and then so for you to throw it
[1:51:47] Speaker 1: in his face once you get rid of him, it's,
[1:51:52] Speaker 1: Talking bad about the ex on the way, it's like, ah.
[1:51:56] Speaker 1: You know, she wanted out, so I let her out. Yeah,
[1:51:58] Speaker 1: she wanted out, I wanted out. Yeah, that shit, right? So, no,
[1:52:01] Speaker 1: I don't agree with it. Like I said, if she
[1:52:05] Speaker 1: was to make this statement, let it be in the off-season. Like,
[1:52:09] Speaker 1: this is for ownership. GMs, now, yeah, you need to
[1:52:15] Speaker 1: answer questions right now. But ownership is off-season conversations and
[1:52:20] Speaker 1: shit like that, in my opinion.
[1:52:23] Speaker 2: Do you think Jeannie a little out of pocket making
[1:52:25] Speaker 2: these comments right now, middle of the season?
[1:52:26] Speaker 1: Yeah, because you don't have to.
[1:52:28] Speaker 2: But if she's asked a question, do you expect her
[1:52:30] Speaker 2: to answer it? Just say, I'm going to wait until
[1:52:31] Speaker 2: the offseason to answer it.
[1:52:33] Speaker 1: You don't have to answer everything. You don't have to
[1:52:35] Speaker 1: answer it.
[1:52:38] Speaker 6: It's a decision we decided to make for the betterment
[1:52:40] Speaker 6: of our team.
[1:52:41] Speaker 1: We feel both teams improved. Keep moving.
[1:52:45] Speaker 2: That's what she said, though.
[1:52:46] Speaker 6: Oh, because he wanted to be a five man and,
[1:52:49] Speaker 6: you know, he wanted to be a four.
[1:52:51] Speaker 1: You could have just picked up a big and you
[1:52:54] Speaker 1: could have. We got Trey Jemison. I mean, but y'all
[1:52:58] Speaker 1: took a shot on the player that we had. Dallas. Like,
[1:53:02] Speaker 1: they took a shot, so we're going to take a
[1:53:03] Speaker 1: shot at your player now. No, no, no. They took
[1:53:05] Speaker 1: a shot at the player that they got rid of.
[1:53:07] Speaker 4: Right, that's our player. So we're going to take a
[1:53:09] Speaker 4: shot at the player that we got rid of. Like,
[1:53:13] Speaker 4: this is the Los Angeles Lakers. We're at a higher standard.
[1:53:16] Speaker 4: Don't try to make it seem like we're getting some fat.
[1:53:21] Speaker 4: slow dude who don't train and don't.
[1:53:23] Speaker 1: Do all that. But we know that. But we see that.
[1:53:25] Speaker 1: Y'all getting a broken guy.
[1:53:28] Speaker 3: We see you got the Maybach or the Lamborghini and
[1:53:30] Speaker 3: they probably got a, you.
[1:53:32] Speaker 1: Know, whatever. So I don't need to make fun of
[1:53:34] Speaker 1: your car. You know what your car look like. No, no, no.
[1:53:38] Speaker 1: Don't ever make fun of nothing. I think certain people
[1:53:40] Speaker 1: have certain standards. Like, the Lakers are different.
[1:53:44] Speaker 4: Like, you know, like, if you throw shots at the Lakers,
[1:53:46] Speaker 4: you know what's coming.
[1:53:46] Speaker 1: But you don't have to. Yes, we do. Always. Always.
[1:53:50] Speaker 1: That's right. I see what happened to you. What did
[1:53:53] Speaker 1: Kendrick do?
[1:53:54] Speaker 4: What did Kendrick do? I kept kicking my enemy down,
[1:53:56] Speaker 4: way down. So you want to.
[1:53:57] Speaker 1: I'm going to keep kicking you down. That's not the
[1:53:59] Speaker 1: end of me, though.
[1:54:00] Speaker 4: Stay all right. You're trying to say we're getting some
[1:54:02] Speaker 4: dude who can't do it or get it done.
[1:54:04] Speaker 1: But you clearly see. You justified.
[1:54:09] Speaker 6: Remember, Dallas is crying about why they did the trade.
[1:54:12] Speaker 1: You act like an emotional fucking woman. You got the reward.
[1:54:16] Speaker 1: I got this. I'll switch. That's what the fuck it is.
[1:54:21] Speaker 1: The statement coming from an emotional woman in the moment. Mm-hmm. So,
[1:54:25] Speaker 1: and that's, you agree, that's what that is.
[1:54:26] Speaker 6: She has to let the world know why.
[1:54:29] Speaker 1: No. This is my team. I'm the owner. I'm the owner.
[1:54:31] Speaker 3: That's my point exactly. She has to let the world know.
[1:54:34] Speaker 3: She ain't got to say shit. She don't have to,
[1:54:36] Speaker 3: but she has to say. Because she's emotional about it.
[1:54:38] Speaker 3: He ain't want to be here anyway. Yeah, that's that.
[1:54:41] Speaker 1: He ain't want to be here anyway. He ain't want
[1:54:43] Speaker 1: to be here anyway. No, but what I'm.
[1:54:44] Speaker 6: Saying is, who was, at what point in time did
[1:54:47] Speaker 6: someone ask, Franks, The Lakers, was that a bad move
[1:54:50] Speaker 6: for y'all?
[1:54:52] Speaker 1: Nobody. So what do you, there's nothing you need to say.
[1:54:57] Speaker 6: Everybody know outside of Dallas, and I'm pretty sure that's a,
[1:55:01] Speaker 6: that's 75, that's 95 know y'all, the Dallas fucked up.
[1:55:06] Speaker 1: Right?
[1:55:06] Speaker 6: The rest of the world, like, Lakers, fucking Lakers won
[1:55:09] Speaker 6: this trade.
[1:55:11] Speaker 3: So you're justifying why you got rid of Luka.
[1:55:13] Speaker 1: I don't need to explain to you. What's the problem?
[1:55:15] Speaker 1: Y'all got funeral homes out there. The problem is this.
[1:55:18] Speaker 1: They had a funeral.
[1:55:20] Speaker 2: They didn't have a funeral in front of their room.
[1:55:22] Speaker 3: AD didn't know.
[1:55:24] Speaker 1: She felt like that. Now he do. Well, he could
[1:55:28] Speaker 1: have called.
[1:55:28] Speaker 3: No, no, this is what I'm saying. She using, well,
[1:55:32] Speaker 3: he didn't want to be there in the first place.
[1:55:35] Speaker 3: Now he's like, well, y'all told me y'all didn't know
[1:55:38] Speaker 3: nothing about the fucking deal.
[1:55:40] Speaker 1: That's what they said. What the fuck are we talking about?
[1:55:44] Speaker 1: Now I caught y'all in some shit, Jenny. Hold up. Well,
[1:55:47] Speaker 1: we knew about the deal when it was presented to us. Now,
[1:55:49] Speaker 1: you know it's trying to make you the number one
[1:55:50] Speaker 1: guy for all these years. But listen, but you know,
[1:55:52] Speaker 1: I'm asking for this.
[1:55:53] Speaker 3: Y'all just mentioned something in the bubble when they won.
[1:55:56] Speaker 3: Who was playing the four?
[1:55:57] Speaker 1: Who was playing the five? Yeah.
[1:55:59] Speaker 3: All right, so if I want to win, I'm trying
[1:56:01] Speaker 3: to let y'all know this is how we need to win,
[1:56:03] Speaker 3: how I can play to help us win.
[1:56:05] Speaker 1: Give me a five.
[1:56:06] Speaker 2: They had two of them. But you also remember. They
[1:56:08] Speaker 2: had three. The boogie was on that team. The following season,
[1:56:10] Speaker 2: what happened in the playoffs? They lost the whole team.
[1:56:13] Speaker 1: But she didn't say she didn't. None of them bigs
[1:56:16] Speaker 1: came back.
[1:56:16] Speaker 3: We're on pace to make another run. AD Hurst's hamstring.
[1:56:20] Speaker 6: But y'all didn't have nobody to back him up.
[1:56:23] Speaker 2: Come on, man.
[1:56:24] Speaker 6: You got to stress. So think about what she's doing.
[1:56:27] Speaker 6: She's covering her own ass right now. But to who?
[1:56:30] Speaker 6: To the public. No, the coaches didn't. The coach didn't know.
[1:56:33] Speaker 6: LeBron didn't know.
[1:56:34] Speaker 1: She knew. She even said it. We've been working on
[1:56:36] Speaker 1: this in quiet for weeks. She's older. I've been working
[1:56:39] Speaker 1: on this for weeks. Think about this.
[1:56:40] Speaker 6: Play basketball and not do my job.
[1:56:43] Speaker 1: Rob said him and Jenny has a great working relationship.
[1:56:48] Speaker 1: He presented it to her when it was presented to him.
[1:56:52] Speaker 1: We can get rid of damaged goods right now. Basically.
[1:56:56] Speaker 1: That's fine.
[1:56:57] Speaker 3: But it wasn't on the table before because we were
[1:56:59] Speaker 3: trying to get Valachunas and other players to compliment what
[1:57:03] Speaker 3: he was asking for. We couldn't get it done. So
[1:57:07] Speaker 3: this is the only trade that happened to do this.
[1:57:10] Speaker 1: Uh-oh, Luka. You want to do the Luka trade? Hell yeah.
[1:57:14] Speaker 1: He don't even want to be here.
[1:57:16] Speaker 2: Shit, yeah, let's do it.
[1:57:18] Speaker 3: Because before that, before that drop in your lap.
[1:57:21] Speaker 1: You're stuck with AD.
[1:57:22] Speaker 3: You're stuck with AD if the Luka thing don't go through.
[1:57:26] Speaker 1: But nobody will know about it. So then you're good.
[1:57:28] Speaker 6: You're stuck with AD. But nobody knows about it. That's
[1:57:32] Speaker 6: like right now if You got Brunson over in New York,
[1:57:36] Speaker 6: and they say, hey, we'll trade you.
[1:57:39] Speaker 1: We'll trade Brunson for Shea. OKC calls you.
[1:57:42] Speaker 6: You had no plans on trading Brunson, and you're like,
[1:57:45] Speaker 6: you're going.
[1:57:45] Speaker 1: To give me Shea? OK, let's do it.
[1:57:50] Speaker 2: We'll give you Vukovic for Austin Reeves.
[1:57:52] Speaker 1: We'll give you Vukovic for Austin Reeves.
[1:57:54] Speaker 3: There's some people you pick your phone up for.
[1:57:56] Speaker 1: You be sitting there like, yeah, yeah, yeah. You say, what? Who?
[1:58:00] Speaker 3: Who?
[1:58:01] Speaker 1: Hold on, hold on. I'm not even going to hang up. Hey,
[1:58:04] Speaker 1: they trying to give us Luca. For LeBron? No, no,
[1:58:07] Speaker 1: for AD. Yes.
[1:58:08] Speaker 3: So before that deal, you wouldn't do the Vukovic for
[1:58:11] Speaker 3: Austin Reeves? You wouldn't do what you need for something
[1:58:14] Speaker 3: that you think is going to be a later asset
[1:58:17] Speaker 3: down the line?
[1:58:17] Speaker 1: We don't know what they was asking. We don't know
[1:58:20] Speaker 1: what other they was asking. I'm not asking them. They
[1:58:22] Speaker 1: not here with us.
[1:58:23] Speaker 3: I'm asking you.
[1:58:24] Speaker 6: I don't know what they're asking for. I can give
[1:58:26] Speaker 6: you a real trade that I know of. Um, 2000...
[1:58:29] Speaker 6: What year was this? 2000... It was Bradley Beal and
[1:58:34] Speaker 6: John Wall. John Wall was here. So it was when
[1:58:37] Speaker 6: Kyrie Nim got to Brooklyn. So I'm on the phone
[1:58:40] Speaker 6: with them trying to piece up, you know, Bradley Beal,
[1:58:43] Speaker 6: get them back on the same page. So I'm having
[1:58:45] Speaker 6: a heart-to-heart with John Wall, telling him, like, reality.
[1:58:47] Speaker 1: Like, yo, you've been out for a while. That's a
[1:58:50] Speaker 1: new team. You got to come back and play your role. Like,
[1:58:53] Speaker 1: this is just the way it is. He's been holding
[1:58:55] Speaker 1: the fort now. I said, just like when you came
[1:58:57] Speaker 1: to the team... I backed up, playing off of you.
[1:59:00] Speaker 1: That's what you have to do.
[1:59:03] Speaker 6: And talking to them, and they're like, we're not trading
[1:59:05] Speaker 6: John Wall.
[1:59:06] Speaker 1: Boom. Right?
[1:59:08] Speaker 3: Mm.
[1:59:09] Speaker 1: Week later, John Wall got traded. And I called. I said, man,
[1:59:12] Speaker 1: I talked to this man, told him everything was good,
[1:59:15] Speaker 1: and how you going to trade him? He was like,
[1:59:19] Speaker 1: Houston called and said, hey, I heard y'all have a
[1:59:23] Speaker 1: problem over there. We want an offload Wessel Rust book. Mm-hmm.
[1:59:28] Speaker 1: How the fuck I turn that down? It's Russell Westbrook.
[1:59:30] Speaker 1: You know what I mean? I can't turn that down.
[1:59:32] Speaker 6: Right? I got an injured player. He don't get along
[1:59:34] Speaker 6: with the two. You trying to give me a triple-double guy?
[1:59:37] Speaker 2: I'm not.
[1:59:38] Speaker 1: Yes.
[1:59:40] Speaker 6: He said, I didn't want to trade John Wall, but
[1:59:42] Speaker 6: I was presenting something that I just couldn't turn down.
[1:59:44] Speaker 1: And that's what ended up happening. The only reason Russell
[1:59:49] Speaker 1: Westbrook was not in Washington, D.C. is because Russell wanted
[1:59:52] Speaker 1: to come home. They was begging him, like, please don't leave. Like, please,
[1:59:56] Speaker 1: whatever you want. they valued Russell that much that Russell
[2:00:00] Speaker 1: was like, I just want to play at home for once.
[2:00:02] Speaker 2: And that's how he got to the Lakers.
[2:00:04] Speaker 6: But Ted wasn't coming off of Russell Westbrook. So, you know,
[2:00:08] Speaker 6: I mean, there's just certain players you get a call from, like,
[2:00:10] Speaker 6: you really have to consider that shit.
[2:00:11] Speaker 2: And Luka was one of them. But I guess at
[2:00:14] Speaker 2: a shot point, how long do we think? Because you
[2:00:15] Speaker 2: see the articles. It seemed like Nico and Rob were
[2:00:17] Speaker 2: having these conversations for at least a couple weeks, potentially
[2:00:19] Speaker 2: a month. At what point did Jeannie find that out?
[2:00:22] Speaker 2: At what point did the powers that be find that out?
[2:00:24] Speaker 1: Man, it's the owners.
[2:00:26] Speaker 6: The owner found out as soon as Rob heard it
[2:00:28] Speaker 6: and got presented.
[2:00:30] Speaker 2: So now they're walking around the facility dappin'. Hell yeah.
[2:00:35] Speaker 2: That's the basketball.
[2:00:36] Speaker 1: Hey, man, you did good. How's the family? Everybody in school?
[2:00:42] Speaker 1: Keep putting up them numbers. Hey, man, you should think
[2:00:45] Speaker 1: about homeschooling. For real, homeschooling is a good program. Bro,
[2:00:49] Speaker 1: you know how them men listen. They smiling in your face, bro.
[2:00:52] Speaker 1: They dirty, dog. Listen, man, them conversations be going on.
[2:00:57] Speaker 1: I've been at this, dog. When I got done, I said,
[2:01:00] Speaker 1: and I was trying to get on front office staff, man,
[2:01:03] Speaker 1: I said in a couple of meetings, bro, I mean,
[2:01:05] Speaker 1: that shit's, man, listen. Y'all have no idea. Calling motherfuckers
[2:01:09] Speaker 1: at the last minute.
[2:01:10] Speaker 6: The worst thing that ever hits a free agent during
[2:01:13] Speaker 6: the trade, they're like, we're not going to trade you.
[2:01:17] Speaker 6: Motherfuckers are like, oh, my God. But is that being petty?
[2:01:20] Speaker 6: Is Kyrie being hurt? AD out of the team.
[2:01:23] Speaker 1: Is fucked up. Yeah. That's what I'm saying. That's what
[2:01:26] Speaker 1: I'm saying. This is what y'all want. This is basically his.
[2:01:29] Speaker 1: This is what you want now. Nico might get fired.
[2:01:31] Speaker 3: He helped you out.
[2:01:32] Speaker 1: You don't do that. Come on, man. Nico got another job.
[2:01:35] Speaker 1: I can tell you this. Nico coming back.
[2:01:37] Speaker 6: We wouldn't know the grand results at the end of
[2:01:40] Speaker 6: this if Nico, whenever his contract up, if he get
[2:01:43] Speaker 6: an extension, this was all part of the plan.
[2:01:47] Speaker 1: Mm. Mm.
[2:01:48] Speaker 6: Remember, there's an entity out there in Phoenix Suns. They're
[2:01:52] Speaker 6: going to blow that motherfucker up.
[2:01:54] Speaker 5: This ain't no play right here, though. Both your stars hurt.
[2:01:58] Speaker 6: Now, okay, how about this? Now, how about this? This summer,
[2:02:00] Speaker 6: Kevin Durant get dead. That just wasn't a... That was planned.
[2:02:06] Speaker 6: This was planned.
[2:02:07] Speaker 1: Mm-hmm.
[2:02:08] Speaker 6: Now you're talking about if you somehow get Kevin around,
[2:02:10] Speaker 6: I don't give a fuck how you move it around, pieces,
[2:02:12] Speaker 6: he go there first.
[2:02:13] Speaker 1: Then come to you.
[2:02:14] Speaker 6: However you get there, Curry, Kevin, and Anthony Davis, goddammit,
[2:02:19] Speaker 6: you just became, you went from dummy to genius.
[2:02:22] Speaker 2: And that's how it goes sometimes in this game.
[2:02:24] Speaker 6: We got to see, we got to see, hey, sometimes
[2:02:26] Speaker 6: we don't know what the rest of the plan is.
[2:02:28] Speaker 1: They raised them ticket prices up for a reason.
[2:02:30] Speaker 3: They know something. We didn't raise ours up. What the
[2:02:32] Speaker 3: fuck y'all raised it all up for? Who y'all waiting for?
[2:02:36] Speaker 3: Is LeBron James coming over that bitch? What you raise
[2:02:39] Speaker 3: it for? Like, what are you raising it for?
[2:02:42] Speaker 1: Who's coming?
[2:02:43] Speaker 3: Because you didn't raise it with Luka after your championship.
[2:02:47] Speaker 1: When you get Anthony Davis and you raise it.
[2:02:49] Speaker 6: Who the fuck are y'all expecting to get around this bitch?
[2:02:53] Speaker 1: Is Braun coming?
[2:02:54] Speaker 6: Like, you got to think about raising ticket prices in
[2:02:57] Speaker 6: the middle of a season, and one person just went down.
[2:03:01] Speaker 6: Andy Davis is gone, and you raised ticket prices for
[2:03:03] Speaker 6: next season.
[2:03:04] Speaker 1: 9%? They do got a new owner, right? Yeah, the lady.
[2:03:07] Speaker 1: They trying to hurt you? They trying to go to
[2:03:10] Speaker 1: Vegas or something like that? All right. Raising your ticket
[2:03:12] Speaker 1: price to go to Vegas, that don't even make sense.
[2:03:14] Speaker 1: Just fuck it all up. What makes sense? Just fuck
[2:03:16] Speaker 1: everything up. Burn it down. Let's burn this. What makes
[2:03:21] Speaker 1: sense is, Bron and Kyrie got a good relationship. You're
[2:03:24] Speaker 1: trying to recruit him over there last year. He has
[2:03:26] Speaker 1: an option to hop out. Right? He ain't leaving. Yeah,
[2:03:29] Speaker 1: y'all need a face of the league? He ain't leaving.
[2:03:31] Speaker 1: Go over here. I'll go over there. Bron ain't never leaving.
[2:03:35] Speaker 1: I know, I know. Bron is not leaving. He is
[2:03:37] Speaker 1: never leaving.
[2:03:37] Speaker 2: Let's talk about Bron's arch nemesis. The Boston Celtics. So
[2:03:43] Speaker 2: a Celtics duo made history last night, and it wasn't
[2:03:46] Speaker 2: Jalen Brown and Jason Tatum. Let's take a look. Boston
[2:03:49] Speaker 2: was down three starters as Tatum, Drew Holiday, and Kristaps
[2:03:52] Speaker 2: Porzingis all missed the game. But the Celtics showcased their
[2:03:55] Speaker 2: depth and got huge games out of Derek White and
[2:03:59] Speaker 2: Caucasian corner boy Peyton Pritchard. In fact, that duo became
[2:04:03] Speaker 2: the first in the history of the Boston Celtics franchise
[2:04:05] Speaker 2: to both score 40 in the same game. If you
[2:04:08] Speaker 2: think about all the legends that have played, there is
[2:04:09] Speaker 2: quite the accomplishment.
[2:04:11] Speaker 1: Damn! Hey, you know who they look like right now?
[2:04:16] Speaker 1: That looked like me out there early. That looked like
[2:04:20] Speaker 1: me out there early and just flaming that shit.
[2:04:22] Speaker 2: So Derrick White had a career high of 41 points,
[2:04:25] Speaker 2: nine threes. Pritchard also set career highs of 43 points
[2:04:27] Speaker 2: and 10 threes. Also became the first pair of teammates
[2:04:30] Speaker 2: in NBA history to each record their first career 40-point
[2:04:32] Speaker 2: game in the same game in the first duo in
[2:04:35] Speaker 2: NBA history with nine or more three-pointers each in a game. Pritchard,
[2:04:39] Speaker 2: also known as P-Rabbit, Oregon native who also attended college
[2:04:42] Speaker 2: at Oregon. Let's go, Ducks, for some of you out
[2:04:44] Speaker 2: there that support Got it done off the bench in
[2:04:46] Speaker 2: front of his hometown crowd up in Portland.
[2:04:49] Speaker 6: Oh, wait.
[2:04:49] Speaker 2: Derek White is an all-defensive team-caliber defender, but make no mistake,
[2:04:53] Speaker 2: gold medal winner can get buckets as well.
[2:04:55] Speaker 1: You said in the first history you had 40 and 40?
[2:04:57] Speaker 2: They're teammates, yeah. Same game.
[2:05:02] Speaker 1: Oh! I'm sorry. I knew I should have passed the
[2:05:06] Speaker 1: ball to Antoine. But I wanted 43 because it's Michael Jordan. Fuck,
[2:05:11] Speaker 1: because I had, damn, I had 41, he.
[2:05:13] Speaker 3: Had 39, and I could have gave him the ball.
[2:05:17] Speaker 1: I shot that motherfucker, I had Michael Jordan on me. Damn! Oh,
[2:05:20] Speaker 1: I didn't know. I didn't know. If I can rewind
[2:05:27] Speaker 1: it back, I'm still shaking that shot. It was Michael
[2:05:30] Speaker 1: Jordan on me, man. I had Michael Jordan on the
[2:05:32] Speaker 1: ISO thinking I was about to AI that bitch.
[2:05:34] Speaker 2: No, he ripped, he stole that.
[2:05:36] Speaker 1: You're like 40-year-old Michael Jordan still. 41.
[2:05:38] Speaker 6: Yeah, but it was the first time he stuck me.
[2:05:40] Speaker 6: And I tried to hit him with a move. It's
[2:05:42] Speaker 6: the first time he what? You know, in the game,
[2:05:45] Speaker 6: I had 41 against him.
[2:05:46] Speaker 1: No, in the NBA game. Oh. First time he stuck you?
[2:05:49] Speaker 2: I tried to hit him with a cross.
[2:05:50] Speaker 1: What did he stick you with? And he laughed at it.
[2:05:53] Speaker 1: What did he stick you with? And I was trying
[2:05:56] Speaker 1: to AI him and got that shit taken. Yeah. Damn!
[2:06:01] Speaker 2: I could have been the first.
[2:06:02] Speaker 1: They would have been the second.
[2:06:03] Speaker 2: You ain't never been stuck like that before, huh?
[2:06:06] Speaker 5: You ain't never been stuck like that. That's four of
[2:06:08] Speaker 5: your old stuck.
[2:06:11] Speaker 2: So, anyway, anywho, as we say, what did the big
[2:06:13] Speaker 2: scoring performances from Pritchard and White tell you about the Celtics?
[2:06:20] Speaker 6: So, I'm just saying, I mean, we don't, I'm pretty
[2:06:26] Speaker 6: sure there's only one of us on this couch that
[2:06:28] Speaker 6: was having full conversation with a Man.
[2:06:31] Speaker 1: I don't know what the fuck he talking about, huh?
[2:06:37] Speaker 6: You remember that man that was asking for $ 75, 000?
[2:06:39] Speaker 1: I don't know what you talking about.
[2:06:41] Speaker 6: You remember that man that was asking for $ 75, 000, huh?
[2:06:44] Speaker 1: They lost his money. Yeah, okay. Stop it. Stop it.
[2:06:47] Speaker 2: I don't want to.
[2:06:48] Speaker 1: Play like that. Then stop it. I don't know what you...
[2:06:51] Speaker 1: They don't believe that shit. They should. Talk about the shit, man. Okay,
[2:06:56] Speaker 1: there we go. You done? Damn, there you go. So
[2:06:59] Speaker 1: you want to go that far because you got stuck.
[2:07:01] Speaker 1: You want to go that far because you got stuck.
[2:07:03] Speaker 1: When they showing the hip. I didn't even say anything.
[2:07:05] Speaker 1: Showing that hip. Hey, King, they got him with the
[2:07:07] Speaker 1: old hip shot. What? Looking good. Gentlemen, what you need
[2:07:16] Speaker 1: from me? Can we move to the topic? What you
[2:07:18] Speaker 1: need from me? Yeah, write it down, Sean. Can we
[2:07:21] Speaker 1: move to the topic? Diagram of play, Sean. Gone too far.
[2:07:24] Speaker 7: Hey, Gil, before you try to blackmail me, man, I
[2:07:27] Speaker 7: need to know.
[2:07:28] Speaker 1: Gone too far. I think you're gone too far.
[2:07:31] Speaker 5: You're gone too far now, man.
[2:07:33] Speaker 1: Thank you, man. I didn't even know, man. You know
[2:07:36] Speaker 1: what I'm talking about.
[2:07:37] Speaker 4: Shots.
[2:07:37] Speaker 1: Shots. You're gone. Yeah, he was shots in your ass.
[2:07:41] Speaker 1: So stop. Torridog. You're gone. Nigga, they think the picture's like.
[2:07:47] Speaker 1: Like this? Yeah. I play for the Lakers. Ta-da! You
[2:07:56] Speaker 1: were sending me mail? Man, don't you think it would
[2:07:58] Speaker 1: be everywhere if I did? What I have to do, Nick?
[2:08:03] Speaker 1: What I have to do, Nick? What I have to do, Nick?
[2:08:07] Speaker 1: What I have to do, Nick? Back to the Celtics,
[2:08:11] Speaker 1: if we can. See, when it's corner niggas, you want
[2:08:14] Speaker 1: to start talking crazy. No, I'm just saying.
[2:08:16] Speaker 2: I'm just saying.
[2:08:17] Speaker 1: Corner boys, you know. He was over here talking about....
[2:08:20] Speaker 2: So, what did the big scoring performances from Pritchard and
[2:08:23] Speaker 2: Derek White tell you about these Celtics?
[2:08:25] Speaker 1: You have an off-dated thing. I just, I got, wasn't
[2:08:30] Speaker 1: they second, were they first best player out there, according
[2:08:34] Speaker 1: to somebody? Hmm?
[2:08:35] Speaker 2: I don't think, let me see.
[2:08:38] Speaker 1: Huh? Hmm. Wasn't they first? According to some people, right?
[2:08:42] Speaker 2: So no Tatum, no Drew Holiday, no Chris Dallas.
[2:08:44] Speaker 1: But I think according to some people, their number one
[2:08:46] Speaker 1: option was out there, though, right?
[2:08:48] Speaker 2: According to some who believe that Jalen Brown to be
[2:08:50] Speaker 2: the number one option.
[2:08:51] Speaker 1: Yeah, the number one option. They ain't doubling up.
[2:08:56] Speaker 2: I'm sure Peyton Pritchard said that verbatim.
[2:09:02] Speaker 1: So Jalen Brown paid 40 minutes. I talked to him
[2:09:05] Speaker 1: at All-Star weekend, so I don't know. Taylor didn't play?
[2:09:08] Speaker 1: I don't know. But according to some, their number one
[2:09:11] Speaker 1: option was still out there.
[2:09:13] Speaker 2: Oh, yeah.
[2:09:14] Speaker 1: So how he got his points is how they got...
[2:09:18] Speaker 1: Their points. Jalen Brown. I talked to him at All-Star Week,
[2:09:20] Speaker 1: and he told me what time it was. So I
[2:09:21] Speaker 1: don't know. You're being mean. What time is it? Yeah,
[2:09:24] Speaker 1: you know. What time did Jalen Brown say it was?
[2:09:26] Speaker 1: So I'm just saying. You know what I'm saying? I'm
[2:09:27] Speaker 1: just saying. When the playoffs come, that's when. No. He
[2:09:29] Speaker 1: didn't say that. He didn't say that. That's not what
[2:09:31] Speaker 1: you're saying. You're not looking at it. When Tatum is in,
[2:09:34] Speaker 1: this is how people eat. Now Brown is getting the double.
[2:09:38] Speaker 1: He has to pass it. That's how they get their 41.
[2:09:41] Speaker 6: That's how you got to understand how they're playing the game.
[2:09:43] Speaker 1: I mean, their team is good. No, but what I'm
[2:09:45] Speaker 1: saying is if you're doubling me, I got shooter-shooter. Nobody
[2:09:48] Speaker 1: on the team is getting double. Nobody on the team
[2:09:50] Speaker 1: is ever getting double. Brown was getting double. No one's
[2:09:52] Speaker 1: getting double. Brown wasn't getting double last night? Never. Never?
[2:09:55] Speaker 1: I mean, that's bad to say.
[2:09:57] Speaker 6: I mean, you should have just said yes. Now you're
[2:10:00] Speaker 6: just saying he's not good enough to double. They're just
[2:10:02] Speaker 6: a driving kick team. They're driving kick and they shoot threes.
[2:10:07] Speaker 1: Two guys just had 40. One of them could get
[2:10:09] Speaker 1: finals MVP this year.
[2:10:10] Speaker 2: If they get there.
[2:10:13] Speaker 1: One good game.
[2:10:14] Speaker 2: Pay the pressure, Derek, why you feel like you're being
[2:10:15] Speaker 2: finals MVP contention.
[2:10:16] Speaker 1: The way they play. The way they play.
[2:10:18] Speaker 5: He hit five threes in the game.
[2:10:22] Speaker 1: The way they play.
[2:10:23] Speaker 2: As we know, Danny Green almost won I mean, it.
[2:10:26] Speaker 6: Just lets you know how good the team is that
[2:10:30] Speaker 6: two players that are, one is a bench player, one
[2:10:33] Speaker 6: is the fourth option, fifth option, put up 40 in
[2:10:38] Speaker 6: the game.
[2:10:39] Speaker 1: So this is the first time somebody did that? Any
[2:10:41] Speaker 1: six-man of the year.
[2:10:42] Speaker 2: Fair teammates.
[2:10:44] Speaker 1: LeBron and Kyrie didn't do it? They did in the playoffs.
[2:10:49] Speaker 1: I thought they did it before.
[2:10:51] Speaker 2: No Jason Tatum.
[2:10:54] Speaker 1: Jalen Brown and JT ain't did it yet? Bro, that's tough. No,
[2:10:59] Speaker 1: this is that. Two corner niggas did it before. No,
[2:11:01] Speaker 1: what I'm saying is just think. Hey, what? But that
[2:11:04] Speaker 1: six man playing like a.
[2:11:05] Speaker 6: But think about like, we know all the names in history.
[2:11:09] Speaker 6: 20 years from now.
[2:11:12] Speaker 1: There's going to be two. This is going to be.
[2:11:13] Speaker 1: Two corner niggas. There's going to be a duo that
[2:11:17] Speaker 1: does this and everybody's going to be like, yeah, they
[2:11:19] Speaker 1: just passed these two. And they're going to be like, oh, wait, who?
[2:11:22] Speaker 1: Who's that? White Pritchard? Yeah, Pritchard and White. Is that
[2:11:26] Speaker 1: one person? White Pritchard. White Pritchard. Curry and Katie. Think
[2:11:37] Speaker 1: about the doubles, the twos.
[2:11:38] Speaker 3: Pritchard can become Steve Nash very quickly. Just don't quote me,
[2:11:45] Speaker 3: but Pritchard can turn into something you ain't seen before.
[2:11:48] Speaker 1: Steve Nash in the Laker uniform? Pshh. He scored that thing.
[2:11:54] Speaker 1: He scored that thing better than Dallas.
[2:11:56] Speaker 3: What was Steve Nash in Dallas? What was Steve in Dallas?
[2:11:58] Speaker 3: I know, but he scored better than Dallas.
[2:11:59] Speaker 1: Even Dallas was something, something. It was like, ah. He
[2:12:02] Speaker 1: didn't get through it, though. You see, but then he
[2:12:04] Speaker 1: went to... He ain't passing.
[2:12:05] Speaker 6: If you was in a league earlier, like, league where
[2:12:07] Speaker 6: Steve Nash was in Dallas, he was like.
[2:12:10] Speaker 3: He was with Dirk and LaFrance and all them from
[2:12:13] Speaker 3: Sean Bradley.
[2:12:14] Speaker 2: It was like, okay. Celtics got Pritchard on a great deal.
[2:12:18] Speaker 3: He's put him on Portland by himself.
[2:12:21] Speaker 2: Put Pritchard on Portland by himself. So Pritchard under contract
[2:12:23] Speaker 2: through 2028. I believe signed a deal. They got him
[2:12:26] Speaker 2: on a great deal.
[2:12:27] Speaker 1: Oh, they got him. He up for six man, right?
[2:12:29] Speaker 2: He's up for six man in a year. All right,
[2:12:31] Speaker 2: so shout out to those Celtics squad. He's a sneaker player.
[2:12:34] Speaker 6: Like, he's a guy who can come off the bench
[2:12:37] Speaker 6: and change a series. right, because of how he shoots,
[2:12:41] Speaker 6: how he scores.
[2:12:42] Speaker 1: Like, he's like Austin Reeves. Like Mark Price.
[2:12:47] Speaker 6: But he's more deadlier than, you know, Austin when he's
[2:12:50] Speaker 6: getting it going.
[2:12:52] Speaker 1: Somebody you don't want to see at UCLA.
[2:12:54] Speaker 2: And they're the first Celtics duo.
[2:12:55] Speaker 1: You don't want to see him at UCLA? What? No,
[2:12:58] Speaker 1: he getting you out of here. He going to be
[2:13:00] Speaker 1: on the middle court. He going to be looking crazy.
[2:13:03] Speaker 1: He might drop you.
[2:13:04] Speaker 2: He might try to drop you.
[2:13:05] Speaker 1: He might try to drop you.
[2:13:06] Speaker 2: We got one more thing to discuss before we get
[2:13:08] Speaker 2: to most of the fans. I'm sure you will appreciate it.
[2:13:12] Speaker 1: So, hold on.
[2:13:13] Speaker 2: Before we do, Gil, you looking a little parched.
[2:13:16] Speaker 1: Parched? A little parched.
[2:13:18] Speaker 2: It was Ashley Wednesday yesterday.
[2:13:20] Speaker 1: Please get him something.
[2:13:21] Speaker 2: Please bring Gil something to replenish.
[2:13:23] Speaker 1: I can't believe... His mojo has been set. You can't...
[2:13:28] Speaker 1: I can't believe you. I don't know you.
[2:13:30] Speaker 2: You're the one who was in the DM.
[2:13:32] Speaker 1: Stop saying that. Being thirsty. My mama watched it. Gil, please...
[2:13:37] Speaker 1: I saved her embarrassment. Please reveal.
[2:13:41] Speaker 2: Thank you.
[2:13:42] Speaker 1: Ooh. Smell it on the plate.
[2:13:44] Speaker 2: Watch out.
[2:13:46] Speaker 1: Can I get a napkin, please? I don't want nothing.
[2:13:49] Speaker 6: Oh.
[2:13:49] Speaker 1: Yeah. Uh-oh.
[2:13:52] Speaker 2: Got some ribs. Heard you see a canyon.
[2:13:54] Speaker 1: Woo! Yeah, because I can't. Don't freeze them, Gil. Eat
[2:13:58] Speaker 1: them now. Don't do that again, bro. What if I
[2:14:00] Speaker 1: threw them motherfuckers away?
[2:14:03] Speaker 3: Hey.
[2:14:03] Speaker 1: Hey. That's why you got your canyon ribs. I would
[2:14:05] Speaker 1: love to see what happens.
[2:14:07] Speaker 2: I seen you putting your fingers in them earlier.
[2:14:08] Speaker 1: I cooked them shit. I licked them motherfuckers. I hope
[2:14:11] Speaker 1: you eat them. There it is, Gil. Yep. It's like spit.
[2:14:15] Speaker 2: It's coming from the Martin house. It comes from the
[2:14:17] Speaker 2: Martin house. So we got some that have sauce on.
[2:14:20] Speaker 1: Them, son. Yeah, it's something light, man. You got up, yeah,
[2:14:24] Speaker 1: threw a few slaps.
[2:14:25] Speaker 2: Put that whole medium on them.
[2:14:26] Speaker 1: That's crazy. Came through something on the grill. Yeah, something
[2:14:29] Speaker 1: light on the grill. They thought I was playing when
[2:14:30] Speaker 1: I said I froze them. Yeah, that was, yeah, they, yeah,
[2:14:33] Speaker 1: I thought you was crazy. I thought you was playing, too.
[2:14:36] Speaker 1: I didn't know, I thought you had a couple. I
[2:14:38] Speaker 1: didn't know you had a whole trio. Did you throw
[2:14:39] Speaker 1: them away?
[2:14:42] Speaker 3: Yeah.
[2:14:42] Speaker 1: Thank you. Uh-huh. I live up the street, dog. You
[2:14:45] Speaker 1: know you can text me, like, listen, bro, can you
[2:14:48] Speaker 1: have no problem? You know what the bad part is?
[2:14:51] Speaker 11: I'm not even going to lie. I walked out there,
[2:14:53] Speaker 11: and I looked at him. He's like, these shit still
[2:14:56] Speaker 11: do look good. I was about to just walk up
[2:14:58] Speaker 11: the stairs. That made you throw him away?
[2:15:03] Speaker 1: Yeah, he had to throw them motherfuckers away, dog. Gangrene,
[2:15:06] Speaker 1: I wish he was. Like, I understand, like.
[2:15:08] Speaker 5: The way he get on my fucking nerves.
[2:15:10] Speaker 1: Like.
[2:15:13] Speaker 2: Well, speaking of throwing something on the grill, Pistons guard
[2:15:16] Speaker 2: Malik Beasley made some interesting comments during a stream with
[2:15:19] Speaker 2: Neon recently, saying James Harden was easy to guard in
[2:15:22] Speaker 2: comparison to guys like Steph or Klay. Well, with the
[2:15:25] Speaker 2: Pistons in town Wednesday night, Harden turned back the clock
[2:15:28] Speaker 2: with a vintage 50-piece. Let's take a look.
[2:15:30] Speaker 1: So President.
[2:15:32] Speaker 2: Barack Obama was in attendance. Hart showed out, dropping 50
[2:15:35] Speaker 2: in 38 minutes to lift the Clippers to victory. Clippers
[2:15:39] Speaker 2: were without Kawhi, who was sitting out the second night
[2:15:41] Speaker 2: of a back-to-back, and Norm Powell, who was nursing a
[2:15:44] Speaker 2: hamstring strain. So every bit of that 50 was needed
[2:15:47] Speaker 2: from the beard. Hart's first 50-piece as a member of
[2:15:51] Speaker 2: the Clippers in his 24th career such game. Only Kobe, MJ,
[2:15:54] Speaker 2: and Wilt have more 50-point games in NBA history. Also
[2:15:58] Speaker 2: the highest scoring game to date in the brief history.
[2:16:01] Speaker 6: That old man shit right there.
[2:16:05] Speaker 1: Oh, let me keep this ball away from you, young fella. Yeah,
[2:16:09] Speaker 1: you get away. Let me shoot this fade away.
[2:16:11] Speaker 2: In Beasley's defense, he was saying guys like Steph or Klay,
[2:16:14] Speaker 2: they move around a lot more than Harden. That was
[2:16:16] Speaker 2: what he was saying in terms of making it easier
[2:16:17] Speaker 2: to guard. Harden's going to bop, bop, bop you. Not
[2:16:20] Speaker 2: going to be running around. But the bop, bop, bop
[2:16:22] Speaker 2: can still give you a 50-piece.
[2:16:23] Speaker 1: Damn. There go Dennis Schroeder. You got traded from the
[2:16:26] Speaker 1: Warriors already? He's been on the move. Yeah, they traded
[2:16:30] Speaker 1: him soon as he said that slave shit. What did
[2:16:32] Speaker 1: he say?
[2:16:33] Speaker 2: It's like being the slave shit, yeah.
[2:16:35] Speaker 1: He said he was on the move. Yeah, basically. Your
[2:16:37] Speaker 1: name is Kuta.
[2:16:38] Speaker 2: Yeah, Toby.
[2:16:39] Speaker 1: Toby.
[2:16:40] Speaker 2: But those upstairs. Good show you had them. So let's
[2:16:44] Speaker 2: go back to James. Hold on.
[2:16:45] Speaker 1: Before we go back, there was no marinating or nothing.
[2:16:48] Speaker 1: I seasoned them this morning and put them on the grill. Oh,
[2:16:51] Speaker 1: you did that this morning? Yes, I seasoned them this morning. Oh,
[2:16:53] Speaker 1: you made the ribs this morning? I'm going to finish
[2:16:54] Speaker 1: them this afternoon. Where the barbecue sauce? Huh? What, who?
[2:17:00] Speaker 1: Do you make a homemade barbecue sauce? No, I do not.
[2:17:03] Speaker 1: But I doctored the sauce up, though. That's something you
[2:17:05] Speaker 1: should think about, though. And I doctored the sauce up
[2:17:07] Speaker 1: that I throw on them, but no, I don't. Hey,
[2:17:09] Speaker 1: I said put them upstairs.
[2:17:12] Speaker 2: Gil, add a please on the end of that.
[2:17:14] Speaker 1: Please? Who are you today? Are you okay?
[2:17:16] Speaker 2: Exclamation point.
[2:17:17] Speaker 1: Who are you? Look at you talking to people.
[2:17:20] Speaker 6: No, I'm like, I want to walk up out of
[2:17:22] Speaker 6: here about three times a day.
[2:17:23] Speaker 1: Yeah. You can change.
[2:17:24] Speaker 5: I don't like you no more. You've been around Stephen A.
[2:17:28] Speaker 1: Too much. Where my friend go?
[2:17:34] Speaker 2: You moved your lip like, where my friend go?
[2:17:36] Speaker 9: We've got some certified bucket getters here on this couch.
[2:17:40] Speaker 3: We got some certified bucket getters.
[2:17:50] Speaker 1: Getters here on this couch.
[2:17:50] Speaker 3: Can you describe how tough it was for James Harden
[2:17:52] Speaker 3: to drop 50 at age 35 on the second night
[2:17:55] Speaker 3: of a back-to-back?
[2:17:57] Speaker 1: Doing all old man moves. It's not difficult when you're him.
[2:18:01] Speaker 2: You've dropped 55 in your career?
[2:18:03] Speaker 5: You can shoot, man. All you need is a little space, bro.
[2:18:07] Speaker 5: And that could change the whole Night for you, for real.
[2:18:11] Speaker 5: You make three in a row and somebody playing up,
[2:18:14] Speaker 5: blow by. Confidence through the roof. And especially for an
[2:18:20] Speaker 5: older guy, You get that confidence and that jump.
[2:18:24] Speaker 1: Oh, my God. I know where I'm going. I know
[2:18:26] Speaker 1: where I want to go. I'm not over it.
[2:18:29] Speaker 4: I think we were just talking about that with Giannis.
[2:18:32] Speaker 4: That's what Giannis is going to be doing at 35.
[2:18:33] Speaker 3: That's what we see with Bron. You know you feel
[2:18:36] Speaker 3: good when you dunk the ball. You watch him do
[2:18:38] Speaker 3: it in real time.
[2:18:38] Speaker 5: When did the last time you seen James dunk?
[2:18:41] Speaker 1: It's unfair, right?
[2:18:42] Speaker 3: Because it's like James is that good as a guard
[2:18:44] Speaker 3: where he really knows. As he's out there, you really
[2:18:48] Speaker 3: watch his game. He's so bored.
[2:18:50] Speaker 1: Yeah. and he looking at you like... Easy.
[2:18:53] Speaker 3: I want you to challenge me so I have to play.
[2:18:55] Speaker 3: But that's what I liked about it. Like, didn't Malik,
[2:18:58] Speaker 3: Malik said something, right? That's how I want him.
[2:19:01] Speaker 1: 50. I love that. 50. And that's him saying it.
[2:19:03] Speaker 1: I'm talking to him like, I know you went in there.
[2:19:05] Speaker 1: I can do it whenever I want to. Don't start
[2:19:08] Speaker 1: with me.
[2:19:08] Speaker 5: You talk trash and then the next game you get
[2:19:10] Speaker 5: 50 dropped on you.
[2:19:11] Speaker 1: Oh, yeah. Head top. You can't come back to the
[2:19:13] Speaker 1: locker room like that. No, don't do that. James is
[2:19:15] Speaker 1: that guy. You can't talk about all this. Yeah, yeah.
[2:19:17] Speaker 1: Motherfuckers might be mad.
[2:19:19] Speaker 2: Oh, no, the team is mad for sure. You better
[2:19:20] Speaker 2: go crazy.
[2:19:21] Speaker 1: No. You better lock somebody up.
[2:19:23] Speaker 2: Chris, I vetoed that. You can put them back in
[2:19:25] Speaker 2: that room.
[2:19:25] Speaker 1: So you was trying to eat them. You got to listen.
[2:19:29] Speaker 1: You got to listen. You got to listen. They don't
[2:19:31] Speaker 1: be listening. They don't be. They don't be listening.
[2:19:35] Speaker 6: Yeah, like, I mean, there's going to be some mixed
[2:19:38] Speaker 6: reviews in that locker room.
[2:19:39] Speaker 1: Think about it.
[2:19:39] Speaker 6: One, because if you're not guarding him, and I got
[2:19:42] Speaker 6: to guard him, he just put 50 on me because
[2:19:44] Speaker 6: you wouldn't.
[2:19:44] Speaker 1: No, he was guarding, but they switched off. No, it
[2:19:47] Speaker 1: ain't no switch.
[2:19:48] Speaker 2: Oh, this old school.
[2:19:49] Speaker 1: Oh, my God. They had to put somebody else on.
[2:19:51] Speaker 1: Old school.
[2:19:51] Speaker 6: No, this is your man. Ain't no switch, God damn it.
[2:19:54] Speaker 6: You better go under or go over.
[2:19:56] Speaker 5: Hey, but they trying to win.
[2:19:58] Speaker 1: Cool. He trying to prove. Hey, we trying to win.
[2:20:00] Speaker 1: He trying to prove a point. God damn it. What
[2:20:03] Speaker 1: we've been talking about, though.
[2:20:04] Speaker 3: We can't challenge them the way the challenge was just
[2:20:08] Speaker 3: made out there. What did that challenge do for us?
[2:20:11] Speaker 3: As Hoopers watching, what did that challenge do? It made
[2:20:14] Speaker 3: us say, shit, about time somebody sparked James to fucking
[2:20:19] Speaker 3: come out there and show us he still can be James.
[2:20:23] Speaker 3: That should be a constant challenge every other night at least.
[2:20:26] Speaker 3: Somebody challenged somebody where James like, what'd you say, Nick?
[2:20:30] Speaker 1: Who?
[2:20:31] Speaker 3: Who?
[2:20:32] Speaker 1: That's why they don't change. That's why they don't want
[2:20:36] Speaker 1: to do it. It's the same thing.
[2:20:38] Speaker 6: Because James is in a different place in his game.
[2:20:45] Speaker 1: The 50 ball has always been there. I think he's
[2:20:49] Speaker 1: really trying to change and show that he can play
[2:20:54] Speaker 1: point guard, he.
[2:20:55] Speaker 6: Can get everybody involved. So his scoring, he's just playing docile.
[2:21:01] Speaker 6: And that's the thing, that it's one of those things, like,
[2:21:05] Speaker 6: if you think about every time he had to do it,
[2:21:08] Speaker 6: it was easy for him. When them Bs out and
[2:21:11] Speaker 6: everybody's about to talk shit, 40. When this person was down, okay,
[2:21:14] Speaker 6: I give you 40. And this one, you're talking shit,
[2:21:16] Speaker 6: I got something for you.
[2:21:17] Speaker 1: Right?
[2:21:17] Speaker 6: I just think he's like, I want to get 10 assists.
[2:21:19] Speaker 6: I need to try to get everybody involved.
[2:21:21] Speaker 1: But guess what? He's never done it. Guess what?
[2:21:23] Speaker 3: He's never done that switch when we needed it most.
[2:21:29] Speaker 1: No, but that's the problem.
[2:21:30] Speaker 6: When you do need him the most, this is the person.
[2:21:33] Speaker 1: He's playing how... Like, if you think.
[2:21:35] Speaker 6: Like, listen to when he was scoring and say, oh,
[2:21:38] Speaker 6: we need James not to average this.
[2:21:40] Speaker 1: We need him to average 22, 75.
[2:21:41] Speaker 3: That's not what I'm talking about.
[2:21:43] Speaker 1: And he does exactly that.
[2:21:45] Speaker 3: And then if you're right, that's not what I'm talking about.
[2:21:47] Speaker 1: He kind of changes narrative.
[2:21:49] Speaker 3: I'm talking about the playoff. When you were in the playoffs,
[2:21:52] Speaker 3: after being James Harden... We need you to beat James
[2:21:55] Speaker 3: Harden for game six and game five. And consistently in
[2:22:00] Speaker 3: the playoffs, James Harden does it so well.
[2:22:03] Speaker 1: That was going to be my point I was going
[2:22:04] Speaker 1: to make, right? It is fortunate for him, right? And
[2:22:09] Speaker 1: we all know, we never doubt his talent, whether he's
[2:22:11] Speaker 1: a good shooter, a hell of a basketball player, all
[2:22:14] Speaker 1: these things, right? That ball could easily not go in. Mm-hmm. Right?
[2:22:20] Speaker 1: Malik Beasley could have made that same fucking statement. And
[2:22:23] Speaker 1: he could have came out there motherfucking and went four
[2:22:25] Speaker 1: for 25. So it's just, the aggression could have been there. Same,
[2:22:31] Speaker 1: could have made them statements. Aggression could have been there.
[2:22:32] Speaker 1: And just some nights, like I went three for 23
[2:22:36] Speaker 1: in the finals. Some days that ball just don't go in.
[2:22:41] Speaker 1: I made my first two shots of the game. I'm
[2:22:42] Speaker 1: from home. No, it don't go that way all the time, right?
[2:22:46] Speaker 1: So he's just fortunate that the ball in them situations
[2:22:48] Speaker 1: and in the playoffs, and in the playoffs, the ball, No,
[2:22:52] Speaker 1: he don't shoot in the playoffs. But that's what I'm saying.
[2:22:55] Speaker 3: For this production of 50, knowing that it's easy, knowing
[2:22:59] Speaker 3: that it's good, we can't overdo it knowing that we
[2:23:04] Speaker 3: expect this for you here.
[2:23:07] Speaker 1: Give it to us now.
[2:23:07] Speaker 3: It's like, yeah, James, we know you can do that.
[2:23:10] Speaker 5: James could be James, but when you're going up against
[2:23:13] Speaker 5: a KD, that could be KD and Steph could be Steph.
[2:23:15] Speaker 1: That shit don't equal out. You talking about in the playoffs? Yeah.
[2:23:18] Speaker 3: Hold on.
[2:23:19] Speaker 1: Played the Spurs. He could be James.
[2:23:21] Speaker 5: You got Tim Duncan and everybody else doing anything, too.
[2:23:26] Speaker 1: He played against some tough teams. He did. No, he didn't.
[2:23:28] Speaker 3: He played against some tough teams. But did he show
[2:23:30] Speaker 3: up in those games is what I'm saying. The James
[2:23:32] Speaker 3: that we just seen is an easy James that can
[2:23:34] Speaker 3: show up.
[2:23:35] Speaker 1: Any night, he won't. We're not talking about the Houston game.
[2:23:37] Speaker 1: We know what the Houston games did. He was in
[2:23:39] Speaker 1: 53 at night. That's what I'm talking about. What you
[2:23:41] Speaker 1: talking about, in the playoffs? Yes. In the playoffs, like.
[2:23:44] Speaker 6: Game six, game seven, three straight years in a row?
[2:23:47] Speaker 1: Philly, he's taking eight shots in the playoffs.
[2:23:50] Speaker 6: The problem with this, and this is why I said,
[2:23:52] Speaker 6: but season one, I never tell a player.
[2:23:59] Speaker 1: To don't be aggressive. Right? When people are talking about Westbrook... Yo,
[2:24:04] Speaker 1: you do what you do. Right? Like, if you.
[2:24:09] Speaker 6: If your talent is the... Can get me a triple-double?
[2:24:12] Speaker 6: Get me a triple-double. I don't want to tell... You
[2:24:15] Speaker 6: know how competitive making.
[2:24:16] Speaker 1: I don't want to tell you to say, all right,
[2:24:18] Speaker 1: average 22, 6 and 5. Because what's going to happen
[2:24:22] Speaker 1: is that motherfucker's going to have his 22, 6, and 5,
[2:24:24] Speaker 1: and we're going to be losing like shit.
[2:24:26] Speaker 6: Because what's winning is the extra 8 points and 4
[2:24:29] Speaker 6: rebounds and 5 rebounds and assists he brings to us.
[2:24:33] Speaker 6: So sometimes what happens is coaches try to dial somebody down,
[2:24:37] Speaker 6: and they do dial down, and it's not how it's
[2:24:40] Speaker 6: supposed to be. Like, yo, can you now score 40?
[2:24:43] Speaker 6: You got to let the motherfucker do him first. Ain't
[2:24:46] Speaker 6: nobody told Kobe to dial down for Paul Gasol.
[2:24:49] Speaker 1: He just did it.
[2:24:50] Speaker 3: What does that say about the player, though? If you're
[2:24:52] Speaker 3: dialing down for somebody that's not going to dial it up.
[2:24:56] Speaker 3: I should always pick up my production unless I know
[2:24:59] Speaker 3: the other dude going to pick up his slack.
[2:25:01] Speaker 1: But they're trying to present it to you as it's
[2:25:03] Speaker 1: the betterment of the team.
[2:25:05] Speaker 3: No, and I get it, but you're just telling me
[2:25:07] Speaker 3: to cap.
[2:25:07] Speaker 1: They're trying to dress this bullshit up.
[2:25:08] Speaker 3: You can never cap somebody's performance, though, because I'm in
[2:25:11] Speaker 3: control of how much more I can give you. You
[2:25:14] Speaker 3: can say, show up and give me minimum. Minimum is
[2:25:17] Speaker 3: 22 and 9 for James Harden.
[2:25:19] Speaker 1: Minimum. That's all we're looking for, James. James is going
[2:25:22] Speaker 1: to say, bet. That's easy.
[2:25:24] Speaker 3: But if James Harden decides to come in and just
[2:25:26] Speaker 3: give me 22 and nine, knowing he can give me
[2:25:29] Speaker 3: 30 and 15, that's on James.
[2:25:33] Speaker 6: Or is that on you for telling them to do that?
[2:25:35] Speaker 6: If you told them this is what I expect from you...
[2:25:36] Speaker 6: I'm giving them a limitation.
[2:25:38] Speaker 1: But they didn't do that.
[2:25:39] Speaker 3: But as a player, there is no limitations for me.
[2:25:42] Speaker 6: But if you tell me this is what you expect
[2:25:44] Speaker 6: for us to win.
[2:25:45] Speaker 12: Yeah, just to win.
[2:25:47] Speaker 6: If you're telling me this is what I expect from you.
[2:25:49] Speaker 3: I just have to minimize.
[2:25:51] Speaker 1: Minimal.
[2:25:52] Speaker 2: I have to give you that.
[2:25:53] Speaker 1: Minimal. That means my worst game has to be 22-9.
[2:25:56] Speaker 3: Those are my worst games averages.
[2:25:59] Speaker 1: You know they don't do that.
[2:26:00] Speaker 3: Think about I'm shooting for the stars at this point.
[2:26:03] Speaker 3: He's setting a bar saying, hey, James, look, I'm actually
[2:26:06] Speaker 3: not even going to put you at 28 and 12
[2:26:09] Speaker 3: as a bar. I'm going to bring it down a
[2:26:11] Speaker 3: whole lot lower than you're used to just because I
[2:26:14] Speaker 3: know you can get it. So when you get it, man,
[2:26:16] Speaker 3: give me a little bit more every now and again.
[2:26:18] Speaker 3: You've never heard that before.
[2:26:20] Speaker 1: That's why they did it the way they did it.
[2:26:21] Speaker 3: Because he's supposed to always go acel. You always supposed to.
[2:26:25] Speaker 3: There is no just come do this. And especially if
[2:26:28] Speaker 3: I'm giving you all the shots to do it.
[2:26:30] Speaker 1: But that is exactly how they're coming to you.
[2:26:32] Speaker 3: So why would you accept it like that? Because you're
[2:26:35] Speaker 3: trying to be a team player. Because you're accepting a limitation.
[2:26:37] Speaker 3: You're trying to fit in.
[2:26:39] Speaker 1: But and doing it the other way. I haven't won
[2:26:45] Speaker 1: doing it the other way neither. So therefore, if this
[2:26:48] Speaker 1: presented to me, this is the betterment of the team
[2:26:52] Speaker 1: to try to help you get over the top.
[2:26:54] Speaker 3: This is how they dressed it up, though. The first
[2:26:56] Speaker 3: time I did it was in OKC.
[2:26:58] Speaker 1: I understand. And I did what? Came off the bench
[2:27:00] Speaker 1: and you told me betterment, betterment, betterment. That didn't work.
[2:27:03] Speaker 1: He landed in a better situation. He landed in a
[2:27:06] Speaker 1: better situation. And how did that pan out for him?
[2:27:09] Speaker 1: I dig it.
[2:27:09] Speaker 3: And then we go to Philly, and here we are,
[2:27:11] Speaker 3: full circle, Back to the OKC situation where I have
[2:27:15] Speaker 3: to limit my production for a team's success. That didn't
[2:27:18] Speaker 3: work either.
[2:27:19] Speaker 2: So here we are in.
[2:27:20] Speaker 3: The Clippers, where I'm like, that 50 from James?
[2:27:25] Speaker 1: That's not going to happen.
[2:27:26] Speaker 3: We need that 50 to come in the postseason.
[2:27:30] Speaker 1: We need that 50 to come in the postseason. If
[2:27:31] Speaker 1: that's what they're telling them. They're not going to tell
[2:27:34] Speaker 1: him to go. If that's what the game dictates. Yeah.
[2:27:36] Speaker 3: That's what I'm thinking they should be telling them. Hey, James,
[2:27:39] Speaker 3: save us your big explosive performances for the playoffs.
[2:27:42] Speaker 1: I'm going right in there, but I need you to average.
[2:27:43] Speaker 1: You can't save because you don't know. I need you
[2:27:45] Speaker 1: to average.
[2:27:45] Speaker 2: To me, you just sold it.
[2:27:46] Speaker 1: 33-9-9. That's what I need you to average. He just
[2:27:49] Speaker 1: sold you. If we're going to win, you need to
[2:27:52] Speaker 1: average 33-9-9 for us to win. Anything under this, we
[2:27:55] Speaker 1: don't have a chance. Can he do that right now?
[2:27:56] Speaker 1: Hell yeah. 33-99 right now? Every night.
[2:27:58] Speaker 2: Do you know anybody else can do that?
[2:28:00] Speaker 1: I love Jay. Every night? 33-99 plays hard right now?
[2:28:04] Speaker 1: At 35. With the moves that you just seen him
[2:28:05] Speaker 1: out there? He's a bait.
[2:28:07] Speaker 6: 33-99.
[2:28:07] Speaker 1: He's a baiter, right? Because he shoots so well, right?
[2:28:11] Speaker 1: Because he shoots so well, what are you going to
[2:28:13] Speaker 1: do on him?
[2:28:13] Speaker 9: Man.
[2:28:13] Speaker 6: You're going to be challenging all of his shots. You're
[2:28:15] Speaker 6: going to be, because you don't want him to get
[2:28:17] Speaker 6: the ball off. So he's going to bait you, do
[2:28:19] Speaker 6: all that whole.
[2:28:20] Speaker 1: To get to 33. That's a lot of bait. That's
[2:28:22] Speaker 1: nine free throws a game.
[2:28:25] Speaker 2: So he's a baiter. Is he a novice baiter or
[2:28:27] Speaker 2: is he a master of that?
[2:28:28] Speaker 12: He could get hot some games, that old body could
[2:28:31] Speaker 12: get hot. He's 35. He's a master baiter. Damn it. Yo,
[2:28:37] Speaker 12: that was crazy.
[2:28:38] Speaker 1: I'm out of here, bro. Yeah, bro, that's it. That
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[2:28:48] Speaker 1: got me.
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[2:28:57] Speaker 1: Hey, hey, hey. I give it to you. I give
[2:29:00] Speaker 1: it to y'all. Y'all got it. Y'all got me on
[2:29:01] Speaker 1: that one. I'm shaking my hand.
[2:29:03] Speaker 2: Been waiting three years for that moment, ladies and gentlemen.
[2:29:06] Speaker 1: Very patient.
[2:29:07] Speaker 2: Didn't know it was going to happen at the particular point,
[2:29:09] Speaker 2: but was ready to go.
[2:29:10] Speaker 1: He got me.
[2:29:11] Speaker 2: That's some real.
[2:29:11] Speaker 1: Kid shit, too. Oh, that's some real kid shit. We
[2:29:16] Speaker 1: got one question.
[2:29:16] Speaker 2: It's an email question from Underdog user DJ Made Man. So,
[2:29:20] Speaker 2: question for the couch. Of all the teams y'all played for,
[2:29:23] Speaker 2: which ones are you fans of because you played there,
[2:29:26] Speaker 2: and which ones you hope they don't do-ish ever? This
[2:29:29] Speaker 2: is how he wrote it. Of all the teams y'all
[2:29:32] Speaker 2: played for, which ones are you fans of because you
[2:29:34] Speaker 2: played there, and which ones you hope they don't do-ish ever?
[2:29:38] Speaker 2: Ish is what he put, I-S-H.
[2:29:39] Speaker 1: Which ones you like, which ones you hope don't never win.
[2:29:42] Speaker 1: I'll go... Just what team I like better? Oh, shit, no.
[2:29:52] Speaker 1: I got to pick a bad one? Damn.
[2:29:54] Speaker 2: This is your opinion, kid.
[2:29:56] Speaker 1: Oh, yeah, girl, I know who you can, like, go with.
[2:29:59] Speaker 1: I'm going to go with Wizards. Bad team?
[2:30:02] Speaker 2: No, good team.
[2:30:03] Speaker 1: They made me rich. Fuck. I ain't got shit to
[2:30:08] Speaker 1: say bad about the Wizards.
[2:30:11] Speaker 2: God bless the Washington Wizards.
[2:30:15] Speaker 1: Fuck them Wizards.
[2:30:16] Speaker 2: Oh, so Wizards is bad for you?
[2:30:18] Speaker 1: Yeah. He said team. So fuck the Wizards and fuck you.
[2:30:23] Speaker 1: My teammate, my friend. He didn't say nothing about the Wizards.
[2:30:26] Speaker 1: Who do you like first? Who do you hate first?
[2:30:31] Speaker 1: I hate you. I hate you. I said team. I
[2:30:33] Speaker 1: hate you, the Wizards, and that's it. And you again.
[2:30:38] Speaker 1: I was going to say you again. Yeah, you again
[2:30:41] Speaker 1: at this age. You like Philly too? I hate you today.
[2:30:44] Speaker 1: You like Philly?
[2:30:44] Speaker 3: I hate you today.
[2:30:45] Speaker 2: You do?
[2:30:47] Speaker 1: You've been talking today. I don't like how you've been
[2:30:49] Speaker 1: acting today. Been talking? Yes. How about Philly? You like Philly? Nick,
[2:30:54] Speaker 1: how many teams you play for? All I remember is Wizards.
[2:30:58] Speaker 1: It is Philly. PTSD.
[2:31:01] Speaker 2: You were scarred.
[2:31:02] Speaker 5: Taking medicine for that.
[2:31:04] Speaker 2: You were taking medicine?
[2:31:05] Speaker 1: How about Denver? You went to Denver? You like Denver?
[2:31:09] Speaker 1: Just you and them. Okay. So he liked me and
[2:31:13] Speaker 1: hated the Wizards.
[2:31:14] Speaker 2: Why do you play for six teams in this career?
[2:31:16] Speaker 1: Thank you for answering my question, Josiah. I don't want
[2:31:18] Speaker 1: to answer. I want us to go.
[2:31:20] Speaker 2: I want to get out of here.
[2:31:21] Speaker 1: Mr. B. I don't have a team I hate, but
[2:31:24] Speaker 1: the Bucs for sure. Love the Bucs. I like all
[2:31:26] Speaker 1: the teams I play for. You do? Cemetery Larry.
[2:31:32] Speaker 2: Love your franchises.
[2:31:34] Speaker 1: Orlando. Nah. I don't got a life.
[2:31:39] Speaker 3: I don't think I have ever had a franchise.
[2:31:42] Speaker 1: Daniel.
[2:31:44] Speaker 9: I don't think I was ever part of some shit fully.
[2:31:47] Speaker 9: We was halfway in, halfway out. The whole relationship. We
[2:31:51] Speaker 9: don't know if we're going to take you with us.
[2:31:54] Speaker 9: You're going to have to ride in the back.
[2:31:56] Speaker 1: You got one, man. That man right there. Not in
[2:31:59] Speaker 1: the backseat. The trunk, nigga. You're in the trunk. So, yeah,
[2:32:03] Speaker 1: I never.
[2:32:03] Speaker 5: I never had a trunk.
[2:32:07] Speaker 1: I'm trying to get on a plane. I'm on a
[2:32:08] Speaker 1: waiting list, and I'm the last one. Shit, I'm with
[2:32:10] Speaker 1: the luggage, dude. I'm under the plane.
[2:32:13] Speaker 2: Stand by on the team plane.
[2:32:15] Speaker 1: I'm going to stand by, and I'm like, 25. Stand
[2:32:19] Speaker 1: by like a motherfucker.
[2:32:21] Speaker 2: You're on the clearance, you made it.
[2:32:22] Speaker 1: Shit, man.
[2:32:24] Speaker 2: Can you.
[2:32:26] Speaker 1: Help out yourself? I don't hate them, but the Nets
[2:32:29] Speaker 1: ain't going to never win shit. Yeah, the Wizards never
[2:32:32] Speaker 1: going to win. Nah, they made a horrible decision, man.
[2:32:34] Speaker 1: They did. You know what I'm saying? Like, hey. Oh,
[2:32:36] Speaker 1: the Nets is gone, though. You mean the New Jersey.
[2:32:39] Speaker 1: The Nets. The Nets. The Nets. The Nets. The Nets.
[2:32:40] Speaker 1: The Nets. The Nets. The Nets. The Nets. The Nets.
[2:32:43] Speaker 1: The Nets. The Nets. The Nets. The Nets. The Nets.
[2:32:45] Speaker 1: The Nets. The Nets. The Nets. The Nets.
[2:32:46] Speaker 3: The Nets.
[2:32:46] Speaker 1: The Nets. The Nets. The Nets.
[2:32:47] Speaker 2: The Nets. The Nets.
[2:32:49] Speaker 1: The Nets. The Nets. The Nets. The Nets. Nuggets paid me.
[2:33:06] Speaker 1: Nicks gave me opportunity when I was sitting at home
[2:33:08] Speaker 1: on the couch. So, Bucks did the same. So, no,
[2:33:15] Speaker 1: I mean, you got to appreciate this shit, dog. Like,
[2:33:17] Speaker 1: for real, like, no, if you had a bad experience, like,
[2:33:21] Speaker 1: it fucking happens, don't get me wrong. Like, it definitely
[2:33:24] Speaker 1: fucking happens to people. Like, the experience within certain organizations happens, but,
[2:33:28] Speaker 1: you know, like, for me, it was... I'm saying being drafted, great.
[2:33:33] Speaker 1: Getting a max contract, great.
[2:33:37] Speaker 2: And so it's... Did you answer the question?
[2:33:41] Speaker 1: Yeah, he did. He was first. There's a lot of
[2:33:44] Speaker 1: people on this couch.
[2:33:44] Speaker 6: No, I didn't answer the horrible one because my check
[2:33:47] Speaker 6: came from everybody.
[2:33:48] Speaker 2: Check cleared. First and 15, right?
[2:33:52] Speaker 6: Orlando, shit, they basically protected my check because once I
[2:33:56] Speaker 6: was out of the league, there was nothing they could
[2:33:57] Speaker 6: do to get it back.
[2:33:58] Speaker 1: So, boom. Then Memphis is like, hey, we got some
[2:34:01] Speaker 1: extra money over here. You want some? Yeah. Fuck it,
[2:34:03] Speaker 1: I'm bored. Let's go.
[2:34:04] Speaker 6: Shit, I got a couple dollars over here for you. Yeah,
[2:34:09] Speaker 6: that's a very important shit. I mean, Charlotte, I don't
[2:34:10] Speaker 6: want Charlotte to win.
[2:34:11] Speaker 1: Because trust me, if somebody would have called my phone
[2:34:14] Speaker 1: after you're 15, you'd definitely pick it up. Right? For sure.
[2:34:17] Speaker 1: You ain't turning down nothing but your collar. That was
[2:34:19] Speaker 1: the team that hurt my knee.
[2:34:22] Speaker 3: Ooh.
[2:34:23] Speaker 2: Man, I mean, if we got it, huh?
[2:34:24] Speaker 1: Yeah.
[2:34:25] Speaker 6: If there's a team that need to be taken out
[2:34:27] Speaker 6: of the NBA, I got my phone.
[2:34:30] Speaker 1: Taken out of the NBA? Jordan ain't there no more,
[2:34:33] Speaker 1: so fuck it.
[2:34:33] Speaker 2: Them motherfuckers don't exist.
[2:34:34] Speaker 1: You know what I mean? Ain't no black owners. Fuck it.
[2:34:36] Speaker 1: Before we go to that. It was once called the Bobcats.
[2:34:39] Speaker 1: And it was orange. It was orange. Oh, yeah, they
[2:34:46] Speaker 1: was some hard plans. Oh, the Bobcats. No, I'm sorry.
[2:34:50] Speaker 1: They was some hard plans. It was the Bobcats. I'm sorry, Charlotte.
[2:34:53] Speaker 1: Not y'all. Y'all already took the motherfuckers that I don't
[2:34:55] Speaker 1: like out. It was the Bobcats. It was the Bobcats.
[2:34:57] Speaker 1: Y'all done traded them, got them to fuck on. That
[2:35:00] Speaker 1: was a nasty. That was a nasty. That's a nasty. Sorry, Hornets.
[2:35:03] Speaker 1: My bad. That bop, that was fast. All the way around.
[2:35:06] Speaker 1: That color. Before we go. Oh, the gym. Everything. Practice gym.
[2:35:11] Speaker 1: The fucking locker room. The players' master team. The outfit.
[2:35:17] Speaker 1: The AC stink. The AC smell.
[2:35:19] Speaker 3: The AC smell like hot dog water.
[2:35:22] Speaker 1: Hot dog water? You know what I'm saying? Crash out, Jim. Crash.
[2:35:27] Speaker 1: Hot dog. Crash me. Before we go.
[2:35:30] Speaker 3: Before we go.
[2:35:32] Speaker 1: We got some breaking news. Let me tell you how
[2:35:36] Speaker 1: it crashed out. He goes too hard. I wasn't even
[2:35:39] Speaker 1: in the play. I'm minding my business, not playing no defense.
[2:35:44] Speaker 1: Do what you do. Do what I'm doing. On the
[2:35:45] Speaker 1: weak side, Jerry Wallace over there. He gets the ball.
[2:35:51] Speaker 1: I thought he shot it. So I'm like, oh, shit,
[2:35:55] Speaker 1: we know this is off. Yeah. Even us. Even us.
[2:35:58] Speaker 1: Even us.
[2:35:58] Speaker 3: So for the first time, I decided to box out
[2:36:01] Speaker 3: the big. So I'm sitting here boxing the big out, right?
[2:36:06] Speaker 1: Not looking for nothing. I guess he pump faked. So
[2:36:11] Speaker 1: he pump faked. I don't know what he did here.
[2:36:17] Speaker 6: But somehow he comes on the other side, fall on
[2:36:21] Speaker 6: me while I'm boxing out.
[2:36:23] Speaker 1: I love it.
[2:36:25] Speaker 6: So I don't know what happened, I refuse to watch it.
[2:36:27] Speaker 6: But I know I wasn't near him, nor on that side.
[2:36:30] Speaker 1: Of the rim.
[2:36:30] Speaker 6: I'm on this side of the rim, boxing this motherfucker.
[2:36:32] Speaker 1: And he hit me. Like, how you hit me? I
[2:36:33] Speaker 1: know he was at the three-point line. In the corner.
[2:36:45] Speaker 3: You know when you wide open and everybody's like, oh, yeah,
[2:36:48] Speaker 3: he with us.
[2:36:48] Speaker 1: You just like, let's go get that rebound. Rebound.
[2:36:51] Speaker 6: Pump fake and drove, and then I guess went for
[2:36:54] Speaker 6: the layup and ran into my leg.
[2:36:56] Speaker 1: Goddamn.
[2:36:57] Speaker 3: He tripped over somebody. He used to trip over everybody.
[2:37:00] Speaker 1: Goddamn, bro. He'd just fall for no reason. Just come in.
[2:37:03] Speaker 1: He was a monster, though. I'm glad they got rid
[2:37:07] Speaker 1: of the Bobcats. He was a monster. He was the
[2:37:09] Speaker 1: reason I started the reason me getting kicked out of
[2:37:11] Speaker 1: the game for clapping. He tried to run over J.R.,
[2:37:15] Speaker 1: and knee J.R. in the forehead. J.R. had a big
[2:37:17] Speaker 1: ass hematoma on his shoe when he get up. He
[2:37:19] Speaker 1: ran over to the knee? No, he tried to jump
[2:37:22] Speaker 1: over it. Truck stick.
[2:37:24] Speaker 2: He tried to jump over it.
[2:37:26] Speaker 1: Boom! Yeah, he did. He was afraid. Jones in him,
[2:37:30] Speaker 1: I think.
[2:37:30] Speaker 6: See, he was one of those guys that it wasn't
[2:37:34] Speaker 6: the height of his jump because that motherfucker fly.
[2:37:37] Speaker 1: It was just the creativity. That was the reason LeBron
[2:37:40] Speaker 1: never got into the dunk contest. Some motherfuckers just jump
[2:37:43] Speaker 1: straight up, right? They don't got the actual creativity of jumping.
[2:37:50] Speaker 1: Some niggas just scared to get into it. Some niggas
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[2:37:56] Speaker 2: You ain't going to make no excuse about how good
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[2:39:00] Speaker 1: Very enjoyable show today. Very enjoyable week here. Something happened.
[2:39:04] Speaker 2: Shai, you got something you would like to say before
[2:39:06] Speaker 2: we leave?
[2:39:06] Speaker 3: Just shout out to the ticket winners for the NBA
[2:39:08] Speaker 3: ticket giveaway we did.
[2:39:10] Speaker 1: We did. Appreciate y'all hustling with me. Appreciate you. I
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[2:39:25] Speaker 2: Shout out to everybody on the couch. Shout out to
[2:39:28] Speaker 2: everybody watching at the crib. This has been another episode
[2:39:30] Speaker 2: of Gills Arena presented by Underdog.
[2:39:32] Speaker 3: We will see y'all next week.

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