# Lou Williams Finally FACES OFF With Mr. B & Gil's Arena

An episode of [Gil's Arena](https://invisiblenetwork.ai/podcast/1689097415), 12 Jun 2025, 2 h 35 min.

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Lou Williams Breaks Down The Indiana Pacers' HUGE Win With Gil's Arena as the legendary hooper joins Gilbert Arenas & The Gil's Arena Crew inside the Arena to react to the Indiana Pacers big win over the OKC Thunder to take a 2-1 Series lead in the NBA Finals. They analyze what the Pacers did to take control over the NBA Finals and highlight how Tyrese Haliburton, Pascal Siakam, and Benn Mathurin responded to the calls to be more aggressive and gave the Pacers exactly what they needed to win Game 3. They also discuss how turnovers and sloppy play cost Shai Gilgeous Alexander & The Thunder a road win and list the biggest adjustments the Thunder need to make to fend off the Pacers. Next, they get real with Lou Will on his legendary career, breaking down his experience playing with legends like Allen Iverson, Kobe Bryant and Kawhi Leonard, how he was such an effective scorer off the bench and allow the former 6th Man of The Year to respond to Mr. B's 1v1 challenge. They also get Williams' reaction to his former teammate Boogie Cousins crashing out in the Puerto Rican basketball league before hearing what really went down with the Clippers team inside the NBA Bubble. Finally, the Gil's Arena Crew reacts to the VIRAL 1v1 matchup between Lance Stephenson & Michael Beasley before naming this week's Underdog Fantasy Dawg of the Week Please give us a like and subscribe!!! Gil's Arena Crew - Gilbert Arenas, Josiah Johnson, Lou Williams, Kenyon Martin & Kenyon Martin Sign up for Underdog Fantasy HERE with promo code GIL and get up to $1000 in Bonus Credits and A FREE Pick: https://play.underdogfantasy.com/p-gi... Download Cash App Today: https://capl.onelink.me/vFut/jkz7rlm8 #CashAppPod *Referral Reward Disclaimer: As a Cash App partner, we may earn a commission when you sign up for a Cash App account. Use our code for 10% off your next SeatGeek order https://seatgeek.onelink.me/RrnK/ARENA10 Sponsored by SeatGeek. Restrictions apply. Max $20 discount Join the Playback chat to interact with Gil and Josiah https://www.playback.tv/gilbertarenas SUBSCRIBE: / @gilsarena Join the Underdog discord for access to exclusive giveaways and promos! / discord 0:00:00 – 2 Min Countdown 0:02:06 – Show Start 0:07:50 – Gil Breaks Down His Tattoos 0:09:55 – Vote For Gil's Arena To Win A Hashtag Sports Award 0:12:03 – Underdog's Dawg Of The Week 0:16:40 – Lou Williams Enters Gil's Arena 0:18:14 – Lou's Transition To The Media Space 0:19:50 – Lou Will Respond's To Mr.B's 1v1 Challenge 0:33:04 – Why Lou Will LOVES Shai's Game 0:41:58 – Mr.B Still Likes His Chances Against Lou Will 0:44:30 – Lance Stephenson vs Michael Beasley 1v1 1:01:26 – Lou Will Asks If The Arena Could Beat Old School Hoopers 1:03:32 – Lou Will Gets Real On Being The Best 6th Man Ever 1:18:30 – Lou Will On Playing In Kobe's Final Year 1:26:47 – Transitioning From The Court To Parenthood 1:30:14 – Stories From The NBA Bubble 1:42:30 – The Knicks Keep Getting Rejected 1:47:01 – Pacers Take Down Thunder In Game 2 2:11:33 – Mr. B Responds To Pat Bev Running His Mouth 2:17:18 – Benn Maturin's Big Game 2:19:25 – Why It Doesn't Feel Like The Finals 2:29:31 – MostlyFans Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

## Transcript

[0:01] Speaker 1: Welcome back to Gills Arena, presented by Underdog.
[0:07] Speaker 2: Thursday in the arena, Father's Day around the corner, so
[0:09] Speaker 2: we are festive, celebrating a little bit earlier. Got some
[0:13] Speaker 2: dads here on the couch. Throw a little something on
[0:16] Speaker 2: the grill, you know, nothing too shabby.
[0:18] Speaker 1: Quick question.
[0:20] Speaker 3: When it's Father's Day, do y'all want to be around
[0:21] Speaker 3: y'all kids or be on the golf course?
[0:27] Speaker 4: I was planning on going away, and I was told
[0:29] Speaker 4: that I had to be. I was like, dang.
[0:34] Speaker 3: It.
[0:34] Speaker 1: See y'all fucking every day. Man, that's like, damn, Mother's Day.
[0:37] Speaker 3: We got to watch the kids while they.
[0:38] Speaker 1: Go to the spa. Father's Day.
[0:41] Speaker 3: Here you go.
[0:42] Speaker 2: Yeah, wait a minute. How that work? Not a fair trade-off.
[0:46] Speaker 2: Every day is Father's Day, in my opinion. Shout out
[0:48] Speaker 2: to all the dads out there. But this is Gil's Arena,
[0:50] Speaker 2: presented by Underdog Whoop Whoop.
[0:52] Speaker 3: Whoop Whoop.
[0:53] Speaker 1: As always, we got the legend Gilbert Arenas here with us.
[0:58] Speaker 2: On this side of the couch, representing Tough Crowd, Tough
[1:00] Speaker 2: Crowd University, Mr. B, Brandon Jennings. Mr. B, you've been
[1:07] Speaker 2: talking a lot. I heard there might be some smoke
[1:08] Speaker 2: coming to the arena today looking for you. We will
[1:11] Speaker 2: see what happens. That's what we call a teaser in
[1:13] Speaker 2: the industry. And on this side of the couch, we
[1:15] Speaker 2: got the distinguished gentleman from Oak Cliff, former number one pick,
[1:18] Speaker 2: Canyon Martin.
[1:19] Speaker 1: Back in the building. What's happening, man? Kane celebrated your
[1:25] Speaker 1: anniversary yesterday. Everything went good? Yeah, everything went good.
[1:28] Speaker 3: Okay.
[1:29] Speaker 4: Of course, yeah. Speaking of kids, yeah. Anniversary dinner got crashed.
[1:34] Speaker 4: Like this? The oldest one.
[1:37] Speaker 3: Yeah.
[1:37] Speaker 4: Said his dad down there picking on the mama plate
[1:40] Speaker 4: and shit, drinking her drink. Him and the homeboy and
[1:44] Speaker 4: them at the bar, like.
[1:46] Speaker 1: He paid for it, so I.
[1:47] Speaker 3: Was like, all right.
[1:49] Speaker 1: Do you, young fella.
[1:50] Speaker 4: I was like, hey, man, bring me a bottle of Opus.
[1:54] Speaker 1: He said, nah. I said, hey, all right. 450, baby.
[2:01] Speaker 2: That is good. Well, happy anniversary to the Martins. And
[2:04] Speaker 2: for all the fans out there, we still got two
[2:05] Speaker 2: viewing options for you, our traditional version, mobile vertical version.
[2:08] Speaker 2: Pick whichever one you want to watch. Just make sure
[2:09] Speaker 2: you support the show. Here's what's cracking in the arena today.
[2:13] Speaker 2: The Pacers held down home court in game three of
[2:15] Speaker 2: the finals to take a 2-1 lead in the series.
[2:18] Speaker 2: But are they now the favorites to win the first
[2:20] Speaker 2: chip in franchise history? Gil, you were on the couch yesterday.
[2:23] Speaker 2: All Pacers gear. Did not jinx them. Was not bad
[2:26] Speaker 2: luck as of yet. And the winner of game three
[2:29] Speaker 2: in a 1-1 series, I believe, goes on to win
[2:30] Speaker 2: the finals 80% of the time.
[2:32] Speaker 1: We will see. We will see what happens.
[2:35] Speaker 2: The Thunder and the real MVP got exposed in game three.
[2:38] Speaker 2: What adjustments does OKC need to make to avoid going
[2:41] Speaker 2: down 3-1? And shout out to the Pacers bench, too.
[2:45] Speaker 2: Putting in work. Van Mather, Arizona legend. And the Knicks
[2:50] Speaker 2: head coaching search has them looking desert thirsty. But are
[2:53] Speaker 2: they doing this on purpose? Gil, you have some thoughts
[2:56] Speaker 2: on that. It might all be a part of the
[2:58] Speaker 2: plan to get somebody daddy in the spot. We will
[3:02] Speaker 2: talk about it. Before we get into all that, as always,
[3:03] Speaker 2: this show is brought to you by Underdog. Go ahead,
[3:06] Speaker 2: download the app. Use promo code GIL. Get up to
[3:08] Speaker 2: $ 1, 000 in bonus cash plus a special pick-em. So, Gil
[3:12] Speaker 2: put up his partner pack yesterday. And if you were
[3:15] Speaker 2: to roll with it, you would have won some bread.
[3:16] Speaker 2: Let's take a look at that winning partner pack. If
[3:19] Speaker 2: we can, please. You had Tyrese Halliburton higher, 7.5 assists.
[3:22] Speaker 2: Pascal Siakam higher, 15.5 points. And Shea Gildas Alexander higher,
[3:27] Speaker 2: 2.5 blocks and steals. If you were to roll with
[3:29] Speaker 2: Gil's partner pack, you could have won nearly five times
[3:33] Speaker 2: your bread.
[3:33] Speaker 1: Yeah, I won $ 32. $ 32. Yeah, baby.
[3:37] Speaker 3: Not half, not some. I mean, four times, eh?
[3:41] Speaker 1: You know what I mean? Big baller.
[3:42] Speaker 3: Yeah.
[3:44] Speaker 2: How does it feel to be a winner? You've been
[3:45] Speaker 2: riding the high streak, as you let us know in
[3:47] Speaker 2: the group chat. Putting a lot of heaters up there.
[3:50] Speaker 1: You know what?
[3:52] Speaker 3: Every time I try to go big, kill it. Go small, win.
[3:56] Speaker 3: So at this point, I'm just going to take my
[3:57] Speaker 3: small wins. Okay.
[4:00] Speaker 1: Small wins add up to big wins.
[4:01] Speaker 3: $ 5 on it, $ 6 on it. Yeah.
[4:04] Speaker 1: That's how I get it. That joint up. Most I'm
[4:06] Speaker 1: putting is $ 7. It's going to take a while.
[4:11] Speaker 2: I'll put $ 7 down, but then I'll end up picking
[4:12] Speaker 2: like $ 8. Trying to win like 300 times my bread.
[4:16] Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, yeah, nah.
[4:18] Speaker 1: When you hit it. When you hit it, it's a
[4:20] Speaker 1: good hit. He word is win. It's far in between.
[4:25] Speaker 1: But it makes it exciting. So everybody, rock with Underdog.
[4:28] Speaker 2: As for tonight, Gil has some WNBA picks up in
[4:31] Speaker 2: his partner pack on the Underdog app. Gil, diehard WNBA fan,
[4:35] Speaker 2: as we all know. You got Angel Reese, higher 9.5 rebounds.
[4:40] Speaker 2: Alicia Gray, higher 25.5 points, rebounds and assists. And Camila Cardozo,
[4:45] Speaker 2: higher 15.5 points and rebounds. This partner pack is boosted. Gil,
[4:49] Speaker 2: how you been getting these boosts? What that mean?
[4:52] Speaker 3: It's hard to understand.
[4:53] Speaker 1: I mean, you know what I mean? You know, when
[4:55] Speaker 1: you winning, you.
[4:56] Speaker 5: Know what I mean?
[4:56] Speaker 3: When you winning.
[4:57] Speaker 2: Got the winner boost. Go ahead and little boost on it.
[4:59] Speaker 2: So this pack is boosted. If you use it, you
[5:02] Speaker 2: can win nearly five times your bread. How's everybody else
[5:04] Speaker 2: on the couch feeling about Gil's? partner pack for this evening.
[5:10] Speaker 2: I see they got rid of the money total, too,
[5:11] Speaker 2: underneath the grill on there. A little light in the
[5:16] Speaker 2: bank account. Oh, that ain't mine. I'm showing the bread.
[5:21] Speaker 3: Because whoever's doing it is getting embarrassed. How are you
[5:25] Speaker 3: an employee with $ 9?
[5:29] Speaker 2: So I got some great news for you. We asked
[5:31] Speaker 2: the chat if they're riding or fading with your picks
[5:33] Speaker 2: for this evening. 69% of the chat is riding with
[5:36] Speaker 2: your partner pack.
[5:39] Speaker 3: 69.
[5:41] Speaker 1: Oh, see, I didn't know they could see my tattoos.
[5:44] Speaker 3: Inner thigh. No, okay. It started with a thigh tattoo.
[5:50] Speaker 3: Just one, singular. And Deshaun Stevenson was calling me a stripper. Yeah.
[5:55] Speaker 1: So, unfortunately, I had to just do the whole thing
[5:57] Speaker 1: to get out of that.
[5:58] Speaker 3: Yeah. Yeah.
[6:01] Speaker 1: No, this is not a Kobe tattoo.
[6:03] Speaker 3: This is me.
[6:04] Speaker 1: You have your own face tattooed on your back?
[6:06] Speaker 3: Like three times. He love him. He love him some him.
[6:10] Speaker 3: He love me some me.
[6:11] Speaker 1: Okay, more than, more than, more than, so I got,
[6:13] Speaker 1: I got, yeah, yeah, there's more.
[6:14] Speaker 3: So I got me here and then the coins that
[6:18] Speaker 3: I had to dot the coins is me too. Okay.
[6:21] Speaker 3: So yeah, it's a bunch of, it's a bunch of me's. Okay.
[6:24] Speaker 1: Oh no, so it's not a portrait of you.
[6:26] Speaker 3: Nah, it's like.
[6:27] Speaker 4: Okay, I thought you said you had three portraits of
[6:29] Speaker 4: yourself on your body.
[6:30] Speaker 1: I was in the, like... It's like the coin, like,
[6:32] Speaker 1: you know, when I did the black card.
[6:34] Speaker 3: And then I had the side facing me on the
[6:35] Speaker 3: black card.
[6:36] Speaker 1: I was like, I like that. And then I just
[6:39] Speaker 1: did it.
[6:39] Speaker 3: So what's this? Yeah, so what is this?
[6:42] Speaker 1: Just money signs.
[6:43] Speaker 3: So it's three portraits here. You're on the bench, young me.
[6:46] Speaker 1: Yeah, the coin's just here.
[6:47] Speaker 3: Oh, boy.
[6:48] Speaker 1: Okay.
[6:49] Speaker 3: Ladies and gentlemen, this is Gil Carino. It was like,
[6:53] Speaker 3: you got Kobe. Like, no, that's me.
[6:55] Speaker 1: It's all me right there, you know what I mean?
[6:56] Speaker 3: No, I just got Kobe.
[6:59] Speaker 1: He's number 24. 24 and 25. Well, shout out to
[7:00] Speaker 1: the thigh-tie. I'm going to take your word for it, Gil.
[7:06] Speaker 1: I do not want to look.
[7:08] Speaker 2: But if you can't watch the show live with us
[7:09] Speaker 2: on YouTube, we have audio versions available on Apple, Spotify,
[7:12] Speaker 2: wherever you get your podcasts.
[7:13] Speaker 3: Hold on.
[7:14] Speaker 1: So which one was first? Which one was the singular?
[7:16] Speaker 1: I'm curious. Bam.
[7:18] Speaker 3: So it's me on the bench. It's just me on
[7:20] Speaker 3: the bench. Is it blessed with skills? Yeah.
[7:26] Speaker 4: So the first one, you just said, fuck it, dude.
[7:28] Speaker 4: Just put me on you. I'm just going to get me.
[7:30] Speaker 3: Yeah, it was just.
[7:31] Speaker 1: Nothing else mattered at that time.
[7:32] Speaker 3: Nah, it just didn't matter. It was selfish. It was just.
[7:36] Speaker 1: Yeah, it.
[7:38] Speaker 3: Was just me selfishly.
[7:39] Speaker 1: I love me some me.
[7:40] Speaker 3: I love me some me was the person. She went
[7:42] Speaker 3: on and just put that. And then... But I was
[7:45] Speaker 3: done before T.O. came out with that. I was like,
[7:49] Speaker 3: damn it.
[7:50] Speaker 1: Updated. So I got some breaking news.
[7:52] Speaker 3: Yeah.
[7:53] Speaker 2: Gil's Arena is on the short list for a hashtag
[7:56] Speaker 2: sports award.
[7:57] Speaker 1: Shout out to the arena. Shout out to our entire staff,
[7:59] Speaker 1: our entire crew. That's right.
[8:01] Speaker 2: We're nominated in the best use of live video category.
[8:05] Speaker 2: The other nominees do not matter.
[8:07] Speaker 1: Ladies and gentlemen.
[8:07] Speaker 3: Number who are they?
[8:08] Speaker 1: Just to know if we're going to get a copy.
[8:10] Speaker 3: Who are they?
[8:10] Speaker 1: I didn't look.
[8:11] Speaker 3: Come on. Yeah, please, Tim.
[8:12] Speaker 2: I refused to look. The only name that mattered was
[8:14] Speaker 2: Gil's Arena presented by Underdog.
[8:15] Speaker 1: Whoa.
[8:15] Speaker 3: Come on, please.
[8:16] Speaker 1: Nine Cats.
[8:18] Speaker 3: And Tom Brady's Patriots Hall of Fame. Oh, shit, you
[8:22] Speaker 3: ain't winning. Wait, Tom Brady?
[8:24] Speaker 1: You got Nightcap and Tom Brady?
[8:27] Speaker 3: Tom Brady and Nightcap? Hey, come on, look, both of us,
[8:30] Speaker 3: I give out $ 1, 000 cash, we win. Guaranteed from Drew
[8:35] Speaker 3: Slider's bank account. Guaranteed.
[8:37] Speaker 1: Actually, I ain't a big baller now. The direct deposit
[8:39] Speaker 1: has his. $ 1, 000 in.
[8:40] Speaker 2: That's not a big deal.
[8:41] Speaker 3: He didn't complain.
[8:42] Speaker 1: $ 1, 000. That's not a big deal. We winning.
[8:44] Speaker 3: Come on. We going to beat out Shea Shea and
[8:49] Speaker 3: Tom Brady.
[8:51] Speaker 2: So the link for you to vote, huh? We do
[8:55] Speaker 2: use live video very well. I feel like y'all could
[8:58] Speaker 2: have picked a better picture of me, but that's neither
[9:00] Speaker 2: here nor there. Gap teeth are sexy, ladies and gentlemen.
[9:03] Speaker 2: Don't let them lie to you. So the link for
[9:05] Speaker 2: the vote is in the chat. So if you enjoy
[9:07] Speaker 2: the show, please go and support us. Winners will be
[9:10] Speaker 2: announced on June 24th in New York City. If we win,
[9:13] Speaker 2: Underdog will fly us out to New York City.
[9:16] Speaker 3: Wait, say that again?
[9:18] Speaker 2: If we win, Underdog said they're going to fly us out. Gil,
[9:20] Speaker 2: make the call. New York City to turn up.
[9:22] Speaker 1: Oh, Chad, come on. We're trying to go to New York.
[9:23] Speaker 3: Wait, whoa, whoa, whoa. Whoa, whoa, whoa. As long as
[9:30] Speaker 3: it's not in Dykeman, because they said I'm not allowed there.
[9:33] Speaker 3: Y'all said I'm not allowed there.
[9:34] Speaker 1: I can't help it. You are not valid in Dykeman.
[9:36] Speaker 3: Yeah, they said I'm not allowed around there, Dominican. What? No, no, no, no, no.
[9:40] Speaker 3: I got my people. My people said I'm good. You
[9:42] Speaker 3: got some empanadas. Empanadas. Hey!
[9:45] Speaker 1: In the arena.
[9:46] Speaker 3: Got that Dominican food right here.
[9:48] Speaker 1: Garavante right here.
[9:49] Speaker 3: Garavante.
[9:52] Speaker 2: Like I said, winners announced on June 24th. The link
[9:53] Speaker 2: to vote is in the chat. Please help us help
[9:55] Speaker 2: you vote for your favorite show. Okay, let's move on.
[9:59] Speaker 3: It's time.
[10:00] Speaker 1: For our Dog of the Week.
[10:02] Speaker 2: Shout out to Underdog for cutting the check and bringing
[10:05] Speaker 2: us this lovely new segment.
[10:07] Speaker 3: How about being that I was repping y'all? I was
[10:09] Speaker 3: repping y'all. I ain't got so much in New York
[10:12] Speaker 3: to sit up in. I ain't no black. That's an
[10:17] Speaker 3: important guy. If he gets traded, am I back? We
[10:20] Speaker 3: don't know, Papi. If he gets traded, please get traded.
[10:25] Speaker 3: It's time for our Dog of the Week brought to
[10:27] Speaker 3: you by our friends at Underdog. Each of you have
[10:30] Speaker 3: a nominee to present. We'll advocate for them. The folks
[10:33] Speaker 3: at Underdog will decide who the winner is. First nominee
[10:36] Speaker 3: for Dog of the Week is Bruce the Batdog. Let's
[10:40] Speaker 3: take a look at Bruce the Batdog. Bruce is being
[10:44] Speaker 3: called up from AAA to the majors by the Washington Nationals.
[10:48] Speaker 3: taking somebody's job. Bruce, the bat dog, look at him
[10:53] Speaker 3: get the bat all in his mouth. So, Mr. B,
[11:00] Speaker 3: lover of dogs far and near, why should Bruce the
[11:03] Speaker 3: bat dog be dog of the week?
[11:05] Speaker 6: Well, he's been a bat dog for the Nationals for
[11:07] Speaker 6: a minute now, and you know, see him out there
[11:10] Speaker 6: keeping it hostile, making sure all the bats are where
[11:12] Speaker 6: they're supposed to be.
[11:13] Speaker 3: So, shout out Bruce the bat dog.
[11:14] Speaker 2: Bruce the bat dog, big fan of rough greens.
[11:17] Speaker 3: Yes. Give him some of that, give him some of that,
[11:20] Speaker 3: some of that green.
[11:23] Speaker 1: Some of that greenery. Shout out Bruce the Bad Dog
[11:25] Speaker 1: on getting the call up. He is happy.
[11:28] Speaker 2: Next nominee for Dog of the Week is Carlos Alcaraz.
[11:31] Speaker 2: So let's take a look. Big fan of the French Open.
[11:39] Speaker 2: So why should Carlos Alcaraz be Dog of the Week?
[11:43] Speaker 4: Oh shit, at one point he was a plus 6, 6,500.
[11:47] Speaker 3: Oh, that is not. Replace.
[11:49] Speaker 7: What?
[11:49] Speaker 3: It was a plus 6,500. To win it? During the match. Oh,
[11:52] Speaker 3: during the match. Yeah.
[11:53] Speaker 1: So, yeah. Nah, listen. Fifth Grand Slam, you know what
[11:56] Speaker 1: I'm saying? It was down two sets. Down two sets.
[11:58] Speaker 1: Came back, won three straight. Came back, won. And that's
[12:01] Speaker 1: hard to do on the men's side.
[12:02] Speaker 3: Right?
[12:02] Speaker 4: You get down two sets, you know I'm on the
[12:04] Speaker 4: men's side. Yeah, it's a game, set, match, baby. Like,
[12:09] Speaker 4: it's tough, man. It's like being down 3-1. In the
[12:12] Speaker 4: NBA series, man, it's tough, man, to come back down
[12:14] Speaker 4: two sets on the men's side, bro.
[12:16] Speaker 2: Like you said, can you plus 6,500 at one point
[12:19] Speaker 2: in the match? Five hours, 29 minutes, longest men's single
[12:23] Speaker 2: match in French Open history, second longest.
[12:24] Speaker 4: People sat there and watched that entire match, man. Five
[12:28] Speaker 4: and a half hours.
[12:29] Speaker 1: Five and a half hours.
[12:30] Speaker 3: Right?
[12:32] Speaker 1: Face a triple point break as well, down 40, love. Yeah,
[12:35] Speaker 1: that's resilience, man.
[12:37] Speaker 7: Yep.
[12:37] Speaker 2: I played varsity tennis in high school. Did not win
[12:40] Speaker 2: a game. It was for the footwork. And last but
[12:44] Speaker 2: not least, our nominee for Dog of the Week is
[12:46] Speaker 2: Cristiano Ronaldo. Let's take a look. So Gil, why should
[12:55] Speaker 2: Ronaldo be the Dog of the Week? He was opting
[13:02] Speaker 2: not to speak and then just elected to hit the bucket.
[13:04] Speaker 3: That's goat, man. That's goat right there. That's a 40-year-old
[13:08] Speaker 3: man scoring. That's LeBron James. With the slick back.
[13:13] Speaker 1: LeBron James right now, but he could be Michael Jordan, too.
[13:17] Speaker 3: It all depends. So he's LeBron or Kobe or Jordan
[13:25] Speaker 3: all rolled in one. Today, Magic Bird and Jordan are more.
[13:29] Speaker 3: If you haven't heard.
[13:30] Speaker 1: LeBron. Kobe.
[13:32] Speaker 3: And MJ, all rolled in one. That's that man at
[13:35] Speaker 3: 40 years old. All right.
[13:37] Speaker 2: Well, you did a good job advocating for Cristiano Ronaldo. Kane,
[13:41] Speaker 2: you did a great job advocating for Carlos Alcaraz. Mr. B,
[13:44] Speaker 2: great job advocating for Bruce the Bad Dog.
[13:47] Speaker 3: Bruce the Bad Dog.
[13:47] Speaker 1: For our underdog of the week. All right.
[13:52] Speaker 3: The folks at Underdog have deliberated.
[13:54] Speaker 2: Someone told me to bark. So folks at Underdog have
[13:58] Speaker 2: deliberated along with the fans.
[14:00] Speaker 3: Sit down.
[14:01] Speaker 2: Who voted on the Underdog Twitter account, not to be
[14:04] Speaker 2: confused with the Gills Arena Twitter account. And Bruce the
[14:07] Speaker 2: Batdog is one dog of the week.
[14:13] Speaker 1: Victory cigar, Mr. B. Where my dogs at?
[14:16] Speaker 3: Woo, woo, woo. Oh, my God.
[14:18] Speaker 1: Okay, Guinness in a cigar. Bruce the Batdog.
[14:20] Speaker 2: So stay tuned for what Underdog has planned in the
[14:22] Speaker 2: weeks to come. Shout out to Underdog, dog of the week.
[14:28] Speaker 2: My favorite segment.
[14:29] Speaker 3: I like that.
[14:30] Speaker 1: Dog of the week, baby.
[14:31] Speaker 3: You know why?
[14:32] Speaker 1: Because they cut the check.
[14:34] Speaker 5: Uh-oh.
[14:35] Speaker 2: Ladies and gentlemen, somebody's at the door. I hope it's
[14:37] Speaker 2: not security. Let's take a look.
[14:39] Speaker 1: Oh, wow.
[14:40] Speaker 2: We got a legend in the building. A legend in
[14:44] Speaker 2: the building, ladies and gentlemen. We got a special guest
[14:46] Speaker 2: making his first appearance in the arena. Played 17 seasons
[14:50] Speaker 2: in the league, including stops with the Sixers, Hawks, Raptors, Lakers, Rockets,
[14:54] Speaker 2: and Clippers. In addition to being a certified bucket, he's
[14:57] Speaker 2: a three-time six-man-of-the-year award winner. He's now a member of
[15:01] Speaker 2: the media as well. You can catch him weekday mornings
[15:03] Speaker 2: on Run It Back and his own podcast, Underground Lounge,
[15:06] Speaker 2: with co-host Frank Horton, Lou Williams.
[15:08] Speaker 1: How you doing?
[15:09] Speaker 3: Good, good, good. Welcome to Guild of Dreams.
[15:13] Speaker 7: What's up, OG?
[15:15] Speaker 1: How you doing? What's up, bro?
[15:16] Speaker 3: How you doing, man? Good to see you.
[15:18] Speaker 1: Lou, we appreciate you.
[15:19] Speaker 7: What's happening? I will survive in here.
[15:23] Speaker 3: Okay.
[15:25] Speaker 2: Before we get started, obviously I'm a fan of Magic
[15:27] Speaker 2: City Wings. They call you Lemon Pepper Lou. I heard
[15:29] Speaker 2: you didn't like that nickname at first, but you started
[15:31] Speaker 2: to embrace it. What's it like having your own wings
[15:33] Speaker 2: at Magic City?
[15:35] Speaker 3: You know what?
[15:35] Speaker 8: I was fighting it for like years, but at this point,
[15:39] Speaker 8: You know, my name is synonymous with Magic City, and,
[15:42] Speaker 8: you know, they embraced me over there, and I got
[15:45] Speaker 8: some real estate.
[15:45] Speaker 7: I got my own section. You come to Magic, you
[15:48] Speaker 7: see my big logo in there.
[15:49] Speaker 8: That's, you know, when you from ATL, there's many people
[15:53] Speaker 8: that come through Magic and all the celebrities, but little
[15:55] Speaker 8: old me to have that spot in there, that's kind
[15:57] Speaker 8: of fly.
[15:58] Speaker 1: Very legendary. I learned to embrace it, man. Okay, very legendary. Yes, sir.
[16:01] Speaker 1: Got your jersey hanging up.
[16:03] Speaker 7: Yeah, yeah.
[16:03] Speaker 1: In Magic City.
[16:05] Speaker 2: More infamous than anything. We salute you, sir. Obviously you
[16:09] Speaker 2: like us now, like everybody on this couch, played in
[16:12] Speaker 2: the league, but have now shifted over to the sports
[16:14] Speaker 2: media game. Run it back, your own podcast as well.
[16:18] Speaker 2: So how's that transition to sports media space been going
[16:20] Speaker 2: for you?
[16:21] Speaker 7: It's been fun, man. I've been learning. It came out
[16:24] Speaker 7: of the blue, right?
[16:25] Speaker 8: I was at the crib trying to figure out what
[16:27] Speaker 8: was next, like a lot of us when we're done
[16:29] Speaker 8: with the game, whether we want to get into some business,
[16:31] Speaker 8: get back into coaching or whatever. Got a phone call
[16:33] Speaker 8: from my agent, like, yo, what you think about doing
[16:35] Speaker 8: some TV work? I said, man, they got to make
[16:37] Speaker 8: an offer. I can't refuse. I ain't... Like, I ain't
[16:40] Speaker 8: got no experience in no TV.
[16:42] Speaker 7: So they got to do something to get me off
[16:44] Speaker 7: this couch. And they did that.
[16:45] Speaker 8: And, you know, going into my second year on Running Back,
[16:50] Speaker 8: working on an extension now to continue on.
[16:53] Speaker 7: But the show has been growing.
[16:54] Speaker 8: And then Spank and I, we was having a conversation
[16:57] Speaker 8: about doing some podcasts. And then everything just lined up.
[16:59] Speaker 8: The timing was right, man. The timing was right.
[17:01] Speaker 7: So now. You know, I got running back. I got
[17:04] Speaker 7: underground lounge.
[17:05] Speaker 8: And, you know, got another opportunity to do a third show.
[17:08] Speaker 7: So I'm all in like y'all now. Yeah, that's what
[17:10] Speaker 7: we do now.
[17:12] Speaker 1: Working hard like Gil. So, yeah. Yeah, you work us.
[17:17] Speaker 3: No, no, we had a mishap.
[17:18] Speaker 1: The stripper stuff came in.
[17:20] Speaker 3: You came in with the stripper shit in my ass.
[17:22] Speaker 1: When I got up, ass was out, man.
[17:23] Speaker 3: Yeah.
[17:27] Speaker 7: Just y'all ain't drinking for real is your or this
[17:29] Speaker 7: is again.
[17:29] Speaker 1: It's would you like one brother?
[17:30] Speaker 3: No, no, thank you. Sorry Chet. I mean that man.
[17:33] Speaker 3: They're calling me tip drill game ready hip drill. Gil.
[17:36] Speaker 7: I wish I would say party.
[17:37] Speaker 4: Well, we can bring the right now. He got a
[17:42] Speaker 4: mother empanadas over there right now. All right, so former Hoopers.
[17:49] Speaker 4: We got Mr.
[17:50] Speaker 1: B here. We got Lou will hear. So Lou, Mr.
[17:53] Speaker 2: B called you out, said he wanted to play you one-on-one,
[17:55] Speaker 2: wanted that smoke, wanted that fade. So have you been
[18:00] Speaker 2: practicing and should Mr. B regret calling you out for
[18:02] Speaker 2: trying to play one-on-one against you?
[18:04] Speaker 7: Yeah, and I say yeah because I'm always prepared for anything.
[18:09] Speaker 8: You know, we're competitive people and me and BJ done
[18:11] Speaker 8: ran into each other a few times since then and
[18:14] Speaker 8: talked our shit and had some fun with it there. But,
[18:17] Speaker 8: you know, we are competitive, we are hoopers, and I'm
[18:19] Speaker 8: always ready to go.
[18:21] Speaker 3: I'm dangerous.
[18:22] Speaker 7: I'm dangerous.
[18:23] Speaker 8: But I just felt like when him and Pat Bell
[18:25] Speaker 8: started going back and forth, they beat the life out.
[18:27] Speaker 1: Of this shit.
[18:27] Speaker 8: I was like, man, I don't want to. It wasn't
[18:32] Speaker 8: fun no more. Yeah, it wasn't even fun no more.
[18:34] Speaker 8: They was talking different. But that's what it is, man.
[18:37] Speaker 8: That's who we are, competitive at nature. And sometimes trash
[18:41] Speaker 8: talk going to get to that point, especially when you're
[18:42] Speaker 8: trying to When you're trying to prove something and, you know,
[18:45] Speaker 8: your bravado is there, your pride is there, your ego
[18:48] Speaker 8: is there. But, you know, if that's the page that
[18:50] Speaker 8: everybody's still on, I'm down to lace up.
[18:53] Speaker 1: I bought my shoes. You brought your shoes?
[18:56] Speaker 3: I got my shoes right there.
[18:57] Speaker 1: You have your shoes.
[18:58] Speaker 3: If we want to do a little preview after three,
[19:00] Speaker 3: we got to squirt up scares, you know?
[19:03] Speaker 7: I'm down to sacrifice my white ones about it.
[19:06] Speaker 1: Well, ladies and gentlemen.
[19:10] Speaker 4: I was kind of prepared for that setup.
[19:14] Speaker 7: I was prepared for the setup.
[19:16] Speaker 8: I knew what I was walking into.
[19:19] Speaker 3: I got 12.
[19:20] Speaker 8: These are the custom joints, too.
[19:23] Speaker 1: Oh, yeah, you can't mess the whites up.
[19:25] Speaker 7: No, I'm down to put them down for it.
[19:28] Speaker 1: Down to sacrifice your custom.
[19:29] Speaker 3: I'm going to go ahead and take me a shot.
[19:33] Speaker 8: We can give a little preview after three. Yeah, you know.
[19:36] Speaker 8: But I don't see BJ working, man. I don't see
[19:38] Speaker 8: the bullying and everything in his way.
[19:40] Speaker 7: Up until this point.
[19:41] Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying? Yeah, up until this point.
[19:44] Speaker 3: How much bread are you putting on it? Underdog butt?
[19:46] Speaker 1: That's that.
[19:46] Speaker 3: That's that. Oh, Lord.
[19:48] Speaker 1: Yeah.
[19:49] Speaker 3: That's that.
[19:50] Speaker 1: No, thank you.
[19:51] Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm a blanco guy myself, man. You a blanco guy? Yeah.
[19:55] Speaker 1: You want one of these?
[19:56] Speaker 8: I can't do that rep. Now, y'all are trying to
[19:58] Speaker 8: save me up for the day.
[19:59] Speaker 3: No, you're not.
[19:59] Speaker 1: Just a little bit.
[20:00] Speaker 7: I ain't had no breakfast.
[20:01] Speaker 3: You're on our home court just now. Look at this man.
[20:04] Speaker 3: I mean, because this is who I called out. Like,
[20:06] Speaker 3: this is who I called out.
[20:08] Speaker 6: So everybody else talking that's trying to get involved ain't
[20:10] Speaker 6: got shit to do with you.
[20:11] Speaker 3: Talking about the people I'm calling out.
[20:12] Speaker 7: No, that's a fact.
[20:13] Speaker 2: Let's see if you ain't better than the people I'm
[20:14] Speaker 2: talking to. The 10 and over club, I believe. No, no,
[20:17] Speaker 2: just the people I'm talking to.
[20:18] Speaker 7: How do I get involved in that, though?
[20:20] Speaker 3: No, no, no.
[20:21] Speaker 1: That's what I'm saying. You here. Like, we talking.
[20:23] Speaker 7: No, let's, from the origin. How do I get involved
[20:26] Speaker 7: in that conversation? Why was I in that?
[20:29] Speaker 3: Because I respect your game. He was drunk.
[20:32] Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah.
[20:32] Speaker 3: I wasn't drunk. I wasn't drunk. But then you saw.
[20:38] Speaker 6: But then you saw when I started talking about certain
[20:40] Speaker 6: plays or certain.
[20:41] Speaker 3: Games that we played.
[20:42] Speaker 1: I mean, we've been in a lot of battles, too.
[20:44] Speaker 6: I mean, you know, in my career. But, you know,
[20:45] Speaker 6: I respect your game. I think, you know, you are
[20:47] Speaker 6: one of the greatest six-mans of the year. My career
[20:50] Speaker 6: was cut short. But I was also a scorer, too.
[20:53] Speaker 6: So I just look at us being scorers and us
[20:55] Speaker 6: being able to, go out there and play one-on-one because
[20:57] Speaker 6: our games are sexy.
[20:58] Speaker 1: There it is.
[20:59] Speaker 3: I appreciate that. It was drinking in the chat. Chat
[21:02] Speaker 3: was poking, boop, boop, boop.
[21:03] Speaker 7: I ain't going to lie.
[21:04] Speaker 8: For like two weeks, y'all had me in war mode.
[21:07] Speaker 8: For like two weeks, I was staying quiet. I'm like,
[21:08] Speaker 8: I ain't going to start talking shit. I'm just going
[21:10] Speaker 8: to the gym quietly, get my reps up, get my
[21:13] Speaker 8: wind up because I know what one-on-one is. Ain't nobody
[21:16] Speaker 8: out there to save you in one-on-one. Bees and Stevenson,
[21:18] Speaker 8: they just showed you that. Them motherfuckers couldn't breathe a
[21:21] Speaker 8: lick out there.
[21:22] Speaker 3: They couldn't breathe at all.
[21:24] Speaker 8: I was in war mode for like two weeks getting
[21:26] Speaker 8: it ready.
[21:27] Speaker 1: So we got y'all here. Are we going to get
[21:30] Speaker 1: to work or what.
[21:32] Speaker 3: Are we doing? What's up, dude? I'm drinking this Luna.
[21:36] Speaker 3: Chat with me, too. What are we doing? I've been
[21:40] Speaker 3: here five minutes.
[21:41] Speaker 1: It's lit. We're going to let you get comfortable first.
[21:45] Speaker 1: You need a stretch?
[21:46] Speaker 3: Nah. Damn! Nah. We need to get some kicks.
[21:51] Speaker 1: We said preview.
[21:52] Speaker 2: We said preview, you know. Three, five dribbles? I mean,
[21:54] Speaker 2: what are we doing? I mean, let's get to it.
[21:56] Speaker 2: House rules, Mr. V.
[21:57] Speaker 3: Come on.
[22:00] Speaker 2: I can score on one of y'all, too. Has Gil
[22:03] Speaker 2: decided to enter the competition as well? What are we doing?
[22:07] Speaker 3: Gil. I like that, Gil. You ain't going to go
[22:10] Speaker 3: your way like that, Gil. Yardley. We going upstairs? I'm
[22:14] Speaker 3: on chat, man. Chat want to see it, man. It
[22:16] Speaker 3: is what it is.
[22:17] Speaker 2: Chat want to see it. It is what it is.
[22:18] Speaker 2: Ladies and gentlemen, this was not planned. This was not scripted.
[22:22] Speaker 2: I will let them get up, get loose.
[22:23] Speaker 1: Mr.
[22:23] Speaker 2: B putting his shoes on. Lou will let us know
[22:24] Speaker 2: if you need some shoes. We got some. He said
[22:28] Speaker 2: he's going to beat you in the custom fortune.
[22:30] Speaker 3: What size are those? Get your drink. 13. Get your beer.
[22:33] Speaker 3: Come on.
[22:33] Speaker 1: Oh, yeah. Hey, shit.
[22:34] Speaker 3: Beer and a cigar.
[22:35] Speaker 1: I will hold it down in the arena momentarily.
[22:37] Speaker 3: Beer and a cigar.
[22:38] Speaker 1: Fuck. All right, yeah, listen. Ladies and gentlemen, this is
[22:40] Speaker 1: Gibbs Arena. We are ready for whatever, whenever. Obviously, Mr. B.
[22:43] Speaker 1: I'm drinking this Guinness. I'm about to piss in a minute.
[22:45] Speaker 1: Been talking a lot.
[22:46] Speaker 7: What?
[22:47] Speaker 1: The Guinness will make you TT.
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[22:56] Speaker 1: You know how we get down here at GIL's Arena,
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[22:59] Speaker 2: We got two small market teams battling the final. We
[23:03] Speaker 2: got two big market hoopers going one-on-one here in GIL's Arena.
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[24:18] Speaker 2: Well, speaking of that, let's do a live look-in on
[24:22] Speaker 2: the court right now. See what they got going on.
[24:24] Speaker 2: Lou Will pulled up right away. We had an interview
[24:28] Speaker 2: planned out for Lou, but it was time to get
[24:30] Speaker 2: to work. One-on-one, Mr. B versus Lou.
[24:32] Speaker 1: Well, you've seen all the talking.
[24:34] Speaker 3: Seen Mr.
[24:35] Speaker 2: B call out a variety of hoopers. No 10U, obviously,
[24:39] Speaker 2: is his rules. But they're getting loose, getting warm right now.
[24:44] Speaker 2: We got the custom court. Shout out to Underdog. Thank y'all.
[24:48] Speaker 2: Y'all are slacking, but it is the Lord's Thursday. Gil
[24:52] Speaker 2: may jump in. You know, I would play too, but,
[24:55] Speaker 2: you know, I don't want to hurt my back. Shout
[24:58] Speaker 2: out everybody in the chat. This is what you can
[24:59] Speaker 2: come to expect here on Gil's Arena on Thursday. I
[25:02] Speaker 2: know we were doing two-on-twos. Shifted over to battle mode.
[25:05] Speaker 2: Shout out to the entire battle mode crew, which you
[25:07] Speaker 2: can check on Gil's No Chill Gil YouTube channel. No
[25:11] Speaker 2: Josiah versus B-Han.
[25:13] Speaker 1: I'm good. I'm good, all right? B-Han look like he
[25:17] Speaker 1: got some guys.
[25:18] Speaker 7: And he's about to crash out.
[25:20] Speaker 2: Shout out to Lou Will and Mr. B. I'm going
[25:23] Speaker 2: to take.
[25:24] Speaker 1: Myself upstairs, too. Give that man some shoes.
[25:27] Speaker 2: See what we got going on. Shout out to the chat.
[25:32] Speaker 2: Pull up, ladies and gentlemen. It's about to be exciting.
[25:34] Speaker 2: They're going to three. Lou Will's taking the hat off.
[25:36] Speaker 7: We're going to three because we ain't stupid either. We
[25:38] Speaker 7: ain't going to blow the bag out here now.
[25:40] Speaker 1: Let's see what they got going on.
[25:42] Speaker 3: Two dribbles.
[25:44] Speaker 7: Oh.
[25:45] Speaker 1: Oh, yeah.
[25:47] Speaker 3: Damn.
[25:47] Speaker 1: Oh, Lou Will already got a bucket. One to nothing. Mr. B,
[25:54] Speaker 1: better not get cooked.
[26:00] Speaker 4: Mr. B, just a bit outside. It's going down here
[26:03] Speaker 4: in the arena, one versus one.
[26:04] Speaker 1: This is just a preview, ladies and gentlemen.
[26:07] Speaker 3: Ooh, ooh. Ooh, almost. I got you.
[26:30] Speaker 1: Mr. B got his game face on. Yeah, he still
[26:32] Speaker 1: got that first step.
[26:33] Speaker 3: I know. I agree, chat.
[26:34] Speaker 1: What do you think?
[26:35] Speaker 3: That first step.
[26:36] Speaker 1: That first step. Peppaloo.
[26:39] Speaker 2: Just a bit short. Ladies and gentlemen, Gills Arena, one
[26:42] Speaker 2: versus one. This is not the main event. This is
[26:45] Speaker 2: just the apothecary. They're playing the three.
[26:48] Speaker 1: Uh-oh.
[26:50] Speaker 3: Uh-oh.
[26:51] Speaker 7: You know what that is. You know what that is.
[26:54] Speaker 1: Two-nothing. Two-nothing. They're playing the three. I can't cut the
[26:58] Speaker 1: lights off him.
[27:00] Speaker 7: We outside.
[27:01] Speaker 1: Cut the stream. Oh, okay, Mr. B. We outside. I
[27:06] Speaker 1: can't cut this.
[27:08] Speaker 3: Mr.
[27:08] Speaker 1: B currently down.
[27:09] Speaker 7: 2-0.
[27:11] Speaker 3: Looking like Carlos Alcaraz in the French Open.
[27:13] Speaker 7: Okay.
[27:14] Speaker 1: Got a point back.
[27:14] Speaker 3: 21. 2-1.
[27:15] Speaker 1: Ladies and gentlemen, they are playing the three.
[27:21] Speaker 3: Oh, that hurt.
[27:22] Speaker 1: That's going to be tough right there. Yeah, that's going
[27:24] Speaker 1: to hurt. Mr. B, you better not let him come
[27:27] Speaker 1: in the arena and win. Lou Will playing in his
[27:32] Speaker 1: custom Air Force One. Your offense is your defense.
[27:34] Speaker 3: Y'all know how we do. That offense is that defense.
[27:37] Speaker 1: Ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh. Mr. B, defensive effort. Here in
[27:43] Speaker 1: the arena. Mic pack almost came off. Currently two to one.
[27:53] Speaker 3: Ooh.
[27:54] Speaker 1: I can't hit a jumper now.
[27:55] Speaker 3: We see. I just made 10 in a row.
[27:58] Speaker 1: Yeah, that's catch and shoot. He said, let's catch and shoot. Oh,
[28:04] Speaker 1: big body.
[28:05] Speaker 3: For game. Travel.
[28:10] Speaker 2: Ladies and gentlemen. That's just a preview of what's to come. Yeah,
[28:15] Speaker 2: that shit didn't count. You're not going to come out
[28:17] Speaker 2: here and just try to score three and just... Gil
[28:19] Speaker 2: has said that that actually does not count. That was
[28:22] Speaker 2: a late ball. That was a late call. Gil has
[28:25] Speaker 2: voided the victory with a travel.
[28:28] Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah.
[28:29] Speaker 3: The chat said that didn't count as a travel.
[28:31] Speaker 7: Put the underground in the chat.
[28:33] Speaker 1: We asked the chat. 78% said it's a travel. Shout
[28:43] Speaker 1: out to Mr. B and Lou Willis. Forgetting it too.
[28:47] Speaker 1: Throw it in the post. A nice little bump. That's all.
[28:52] Speaker 1: A preview of things to come. All of them too small.
[28:55] Speaker 4: I'm going to hold off yet because I'm mad.
[28:58] Speaker 3: Mr.
[28:58] Speaker 1: B get big body.
[28:59] Speaker 2: Ladies and gentlemen, we are back in the arena.
[29:11] Speaker 1: Light work.
[29:20] Speaker 2: Lua, unfortunately, the win has been voided. The chat said travel.
[29:25] Speaker 2: Gil chasing his house.
[29:26] Speaker 7: I know where I'm at.
[29:28] Speaker 1: You know where you're at. Gil did not play fair.
[29:32] Speaker 1: Gil has returned to the arena. A little disappointment.
[29:34] Speaker 3: Why so somber, Gil?
[29:37] Speaker 1: Why so somber?
[29:41] Speaker 3: You got into the two-on-two now, bro.
[29:45] Speaker 1: We need our fade back.
[29:47] Speaker 3: I'll bring Spank with me.
[29:49] Speaker 1: I'll bring Spank through the arena.
[29:50] Speaker 7: I don't know if Spank is shapeful, but, you know,
[29:53] Speaker 7: he'd be good with content.
[29:57] Speaker 1: Can you say me and you should play one-on-one? I'm good, though.
[30:00] Speaker 1: You got it. In the post? Up and under your post?
[30:04] Speaker 1: That's what you think. You ain't seen this one.
[30:08] Speaker 4: Just knock the ball right out your hand, you pump fake.
[30:13] Speaker 3: You got that first step. That first step is always
[30:15] Speaker 3: the most important.
[30:16] Speaker 7: I still got my first step and my jumper. That's
[30:19] Speaker 7: all I got.
[30:19] Speaker 1: That's all you need.
[30:22] Speaker 3: That's all I got. We were just talking about who
[30:25] Speaker 3: had a bag.
[30:25] Speaker 1: And get by you. We appreciate you. This was unplanned
[30:30] Speaker 1: When people talk about one-on-one players, that's the key.
[30:35] Speaker 3: It's that first step. If you got the first step,
[30:37] Speaker 3: then you got to counter to it. That's why some
[30:39] Speaker 3: people can't play one-on-one.
[30:42] Speaker 7: And I'm comfortable with contact.
[30:44] Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying?
[30:45] Speaker 8: So my first step, if I don't beat you on
[30:47] Speaker 8: my first step, I'm going through you. I ain't going
[30:49] Speaker 8: east and west. And then we go from there. Either
[30:52] Speaker 8: it's going to go your way or mine, but I
[30:53] Speaker 8: ain't running. You know what I'm saying?
[30:55] Speaker 7: You see a couple, I get there, boom, fade, he
[30:58] Speaker 7: on top of him.
[30:59] Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying? Right there. Did you teach
[31:01] Speaker 1: Shea that?
[31:02] Speaker 3: I'm about to say, yeah.
[31:03] Speaker 8: I was mid-range with Shea, man. That was everything that
[31:06] Speaker 8: he'd do on that left side of the court, that
[31:08] Speaker 8: skill work that he did, he did with me. Yeah,
[31:10] Speaker 8: because you like left.
[31:12] Speaker 3: Yeah.
[31:13] Speaker 7: But he's very, like, Shea was very methodical with his work.
[31:17] Speaker 8: Loved working. That's one thing that I can say about
[31:20] Speaker 8: SGA when we was teammates.
[31:21] Speaker 7: Like, he loved to work. Like, some guys, they act
[31:25] Speaker 7: like it's punishment. You know what I'm saying?
[31:27] Speaker 3: Yeah.
[31:28] Speaker 7: I do this shit all day. So I just told
[31:30] Speaker 7: him how to be efficient. Because I had to be.
[31:33] Speaker 7: You know what I'm saying? I had to be efficient.
[31:34] Speaker 8: I don't have the foot speed everybody got. But like
[31:36] Speaker 8: you said, my first step, I can get to where
[31:38] Speaker 8: I'm going. But being undersized, I'm usually going to have
[31:42] Speaker 8: a 6'3. 6'3 and up guard me. You know what
[31:44] Speaker 8: I'm saying? Marquee defenders. So I got to be able
[31:47] Speaker 8: to get away from you after that first step. That's
[31:49] Speaker 8: what I worked on.
[31:51] Speaker 3: He was going against a bigger guy with 6'8. But
[31:53] Speaker 3: you were scoring.
[31:54] Speaker 6: So the contact that you were making with him, it
[31:57] Speaker 6: was different.
[31:58] Speaker 2: So Lua, like you said, you got to play with
[32:00] Speaker 2: a young Shea with the Clippers before they traded to
[32:02] Speaker 2: the Thunder. But during a recent episode of Run It Back,
[32:04] Speaker 2: you talked about a convo you had with one of
[32:06] Speaker 2: your friends about SGA. And you said, we're looking at
[32:09] Speaker 2: Kobe Bryant being created. What did you mean by that?
[32:13] Speaker 8: You know, sometimes it's taboo to talk about our legends
[32:16] Speaker 8: and talk about like, you know, think about it. We
[32:19] Speaker 8: talk about any comparison to Michael Jordan, 30 years later,
[32:23] Speaker 8: we still fighting it.
[32:25] Speaker 7: You don't want to hear it, right?
[32:26] Speaker 8: So it's kind of taboo when you talk about Hey,
[32:29] Speaker 8: that's more LeBron.
[32:30] Speaker 3: That's more Kobe. People are like, no, that's AI.
[32:33] Speaker 8: Like, no, that's Kobe. Like, I'm telling y'all. So that's
[32:37] Speaker 8: what I meant by that. Like, he has that type
[32:40] Speaker 8: of temperament, game. As you can see, you can't speed
[32:43] Speaker 8: him up. He going to get to his spots. He
[32:45] Speaker 8: going to do what he want to do. Got the
[32:47] Speaker 8: ultimate confidence in himself. Like, that's what I see. Like,
[32:51] Speaker 8: working next to Bing, he always had, like, ultimate confidence.
[32:56] Speaker 8: It never was a moment where he was like... damn,
[32:59] Speaker 8: it didn't go my way. It was like, no, it
[33:01] Speaker 8: didn't go my way because of me. It wasn't nothing
[33:03] Speaker 8: about what you did. And that's how Shay is, man.
[33:07] Speaker 8: And I want us to start getting into a headspace
[33:10] Speaker 8: as fans and how we consume the game.
[33:12] Speaker 7: Like, it's okay to have comparisons.
[33:15] Speaker 8: It's okay to have comparisons, but the moment that you
[33:18] Speaker 8: compare him to like a Kobe, everybody gonna find what
[33:21] Speaker 8: he don't do like Kobe. Soon as you say that, right?
[33:24] Speaker 8: But it's like, nah, like some point the game gotta
[33:26] Speaker 8: move on. We gotta move forward, you know? So if
[33:29] Speaker 8: we're not gonna compare him to nobody, he can be
[33:31] Speaker 8: the first SGA, but we don't respect the game like that.
[33:34] Speaker 8: We always gotta compare to somebody. So when I started
[33:36] Speaker 8: seeing like the AI comparisons and this and that, I'm.
[33:41] Speaker 7: Like, he more Kobe. But I know everybody going to
[33:44] Speaker 7: fight that.
[33:44] Speaker 8: I know that's going to be something that everybody's like,
[33:46] Speaker 8: what the fuck are you talking about?
[33:47] Speaker 3: But that's how I feel.
[33:48] Speaker 8: I think he's more in a class of the top
[33:52] Speaker 8: three guys that we always talk about in LeBron, Kobe,
[33:55] Speaker 8: and MJ. When it's all said and done, I think
[33:58] Speaker 8: that's more of his class than anything else.
[34:00] Speaker 2: You think he's going to finish his career up in
[34:02] Speaker 2: that class? Already on the right path, I think, him
[34:04] Speaker 2: and MJ.
[34:04] Speaker 8: Thank you, bro. The mentality is there. the mentality and
[34:08] Speaker 8: the work ethic is there. We knew they was a
[34:12] Speaker 8: good team, but we went from them being a good
[34:15] Speaker 8: team to taking all the training wheels off. We don't
[34:19] Speaker 8: call them a young team no more. We don't call
[34:21] Speaker 8: them inexperienced anymore. And I think a lot of that
[34:23] Speaker 8: is because of his maturity. Him being the leader of
[34:26] Speaker 8: the Snake, him being the leader of that group. When
[34:28] Speaker 8: you look at them now, you look at them as
[34:29] Speaker 8: a legit contender.
[34:32] Speaker 2: And obviously they're down 2-1 in the series of the
[34:33] Speaker 2: Pacers right now, but they have not lost back-to-back games.
[34:36] Speaker 2: All season, I think, dating back all the way to 2023.
[34:38] Speaker 2: Shea has historically struggled in game threes. I think in
[34:42] Speaker 2: this postseason so far, it's been his lowest scoring average
[34:44] Speaker 2: amongst all the different games in the playoff series. But
[34:46] Speaker 2: you think he's going to pick it back up game four?
[34:48] Speaker 2: You going to see that killer instinct for the rest
[34:50] Speaker 2: of the season?
[34:50] Speaker 7: That's what he's done all year.
[34:52] Speaker 8: You know, one of the things that you can put
[34:54] Speaker 8: on his plate is he's been consistent. You know, he's
[34:57] Speaker 8: always been consistent. And any time that he didn't have
[35:00] Speaker 8: a great game, he's always responding. Give Indiana credit, though.
[35:03] Speaker 8: They defending just like OKC defending. Both of those groups
[35:06] Speaker 8: are high level defensive teams, but I thought yesterday, I
[35:09] Speaker 8: thought in game three, I felt like he started the
[35:13] Speaker 8: game kind of rushed a little bit, like look at
[35:16] Speaker 8: his first two possessions. First possession, you get a foul
[35:19] Speaker 8: because you're wrestling with them hard, right? That's more of
[35:22] Speaker 8: what Indiana wants you to do. They want you to
[35:24] Speaker 8: get caught up in the tug of war.
[35:26] Speaker 7: Then his first.
[35:27] Speaker 8: Attempt at the best, he pump fakes, spin around, try
[35:30] Speaker 8: to flip it under somebody. That's starting the game off rough.
[35:33] Speaker 8: I just felt like he was trying to win a
[35:34] Speaker 8: game in one position. And I think game four, he'll
[35:37] Speaker 8: be more of himself. Be patient with the game. Let
[35:39] Speaker 8: the game come to him. He'll play a better game.
[35:41] Speaker 3: Do you sense that's how they play today? Like they're
[35:44] Speaker 3: winning it. They're trying to win a game with one
[35:47] Speaker 3: miracle shot or one shot.
[35:48] Speaker 1: Yeah. Like it's like, it.
[35:50] Speaker 3: Seems like everything is like a knockout blow. No one's
[35:53] Speaker 3: trying to get anything easy. It's like, you know, you
[35:56] Speaker 3: got 48, you got 48 on the clock and y'all
[35:59] Speaker 3: are trying to. They trying to get it in. Trying
[36:02] Speaker 3: to hurry up and get it back.
[36:03] Speaker 1: Like just take your time.
[36:05] Speaker 3: Yeah.
[36:06] Speaker 7: It's there.
[36:07] Speaker 1: The game is there.
[36:08] Speaker 7: You know how the energy go, man.
[36:09] Speaker 8: You start a game off a little rocky, you're spending
[36:12] Speaker 8: the rest of the game trying to get back on
[36:13] Speaker 8: the right page. Sometimes when you're playing catch-up, you can't.
[36:17] Speaker 8: And Indiana didn't allow them to play catch-up.
[36:19] Speaker 1: And they're not.
[36:20] Speaker 7: And they're not. You know what I'm saying? Especially you
[36:22] Speaker 7: got 60 points coming off your bench. And then T.J.
[36:26] Speaker 8: McConnell, he's stealing inbounds passes, giving them extra possessions. Ben
[36:30] Speaker 8: Matherin ain't miss a shot. You can't afford that. You
[36:32] Speaker 8: can't afford to ease into a game like that when
[36:35] Speaker 8: you got a team that's hungry in the next couple
[36:37] Speaker 8: games on their home court.
[36:38] Speaker 3: What's so funny is when we talk about them being young,
[36:42] Speaker 3: it showed yesterday. I've never seen a veteran team or
[36:49] Speaker 3: any other just veteran player Turn the ball over that
[36:52] Speaker 3: many times on an out-of-bounds play.
[36:54] Speaker 1: Just score a basket.
[36:55] Speaker 3: Who the fuck does that?
[36:57] Speaker 4: It's that careless shit they're using against you. It's instincts
[37:03] Speaker 4: from players. It's coaching. They're picking you up full court.
[37:08] Speaker 4: You already know that. So now you already know that,
[37:11] Speaker 4: but you're lackadaisical. in your inbound shit, but you got
[37:14] Speaker 4: to know that, listen, they picking us up, so we
[37:16] Speaker 4: got to be mindful of that. They don't even do
[37:17] Speaker 4: that shit in college. They did that shit a lot
[37:19] Speaker 4: of times, though.
[37:20] Speaker 3: I've never seen that many turnovers in college on an out-of-bounds.
[37:23] Speaker 3: You know when you score, you can run a baseline.
[37:26] Speaker 3: You know when you score, you can just let the
[37:28] Speaker 3: ball drop. It's like they're scoring, they're trying to, like
[37:30] Speaker 3: they're Indiana, to try to beat the president, even with,
[37:33] Speaker 3: you know, SGA and them. We was always taught above
[37:38] Speaker 3: the free throw line, so you have wiggle room to move.
[37:42] Speaker 3: They trying to catch. Yeah, we had the drill. They
[37:44] Speaker 3: sitting there trying to catch the ball on the baseline. Nigga,
[37:46] Speaker 3: that's the easiest place to trap on the press. And
[37:48] Speaker 3: they're taking the ball.
[37:50] Speaker 1: Underneath the basket. All of it is wrong. The worst
[37:52] Speaker 1: place ever.
[37:53] Speaker 3: They always teach you, don't take the ball out underneath
[37:54] Speaker 3: the basket.
[37:55] Speaker 1: Oh, take the ball out underneath the basket.
[37:57] Speaker 3: Oh, just grab it and just. Like Caruso did a
[37:58] Speaker 3: couple times. I'm like, dude, you have no.
[38:01] Speaker 7: And think about what that do to your rhythm, though.
[38:02] Speaker 8: When you taking the ball out fast and you're used
[38:04] Speaker 8: to pushing it up, now he's stealing. So y'all just
[38:07] Speaker 8: holding the ball, mess up your whole rhythm on your
[38:09] Speaker 8: offense now.
[38:10] Speaker 4: Now everything off. It's purposeful what Indiana's doing.
[38:14] Speaker 1: Yeah.
[38:15] Speaker 4: That's Carlisle, yeah. Yeah, they're intentionally, listen, we're going to
[38:19] Speaker 4: slow y'all down. We're going to make y'all do things
[38:22] Speaker 4: that we want y'all to do.
[38:25] Speaker 3: Amen. You couldn't, I think about like, When I first
[38:30] Speaker 3: came in and, you know, the young boys, y'all got
[38:34] Speaker 3: to pick up full court. And I remember trying to
[38:36] Speaker 3: pick up J-Kid full court. And it was so difficult
[38:42] Speaker 3: because it was always this banana move. Where if he's
[38:45] Speaker 3: starting on this side, and he's running this side, and
[38:49] Speaker 3: you're running with him. You take the ball out, and
[38:51] Speaker 3: then y'all both moving together, and he has that, it's
[38:53] Speaker 3: like a receiver move. And he's running with, just running,
[38:57] Speaker 3: he's taking off. It's like, I've never seen somebody on
[39:00] Speaker 3: a trap trying to catch the ball standstill. All the
[39:03] Speaker 3: great point guards is already moving. Right? It's like, whatever side,
[39:08] Speaker 3: they're going to the other side, and they're just going
[39:09] Speaker 3: to keep their momentum and go. It was hard to
[39:12] Speaker 3: press somebody and turn them, because it's always.
[39:14] Speaker 8: A Well, the game has played completely different now. Like
[39:19] Speaker 8: a lot of the foundational stuff that we know and
[39:22] Speaker 8: what we've been accustomed to, that shit is out. Like
[39:25] Speaker 8: we said, there used to be a drill for guards.
[39:28] Speaker 8: They'd throw the ball off the backboard, you start on
[39:29] Speaker 8: the right side, you free throw line, circle.
[39:32] Speaker 7: Now I'm going on the fly. That's how I'm initiating
[39:34] Speaker 7: the offense. Nah, not now.
[39:36] Speaker 8: Now it's just one-on-one, back pick, wait till you get
[39:40] Speaker 8: to half court, set up the offense.
[39:42] Speaker 1: Completely different now.
[39:45] Speaker 2: Speaking of one-on-one, we just saw A little preview of
[39:48] Speaker 2: the one-on-one battle between you two.
[39:49] Speaker 1: Mr. B, how are you feeling right now?
[39:50] Speaker 3: Still like my chances. I like my chances.
[39:51] Speaker 1: The chat said you're being very quiet right now. I
[39:52] Speaker 1: like my chances.
[39:53] Speaker 6: No, I like what they were talking about. I like
[39:55] Speaker 6: my chances. I got some stops. I saw the first move.
[39:57] Speaker 6: I was like, okay, boy, I'm winning.
[39:59] Speaker 3: Caught you off guard. Yeah, I was. And the whites. Yeah,
[40:01] Speaker 3: you didn't. No, I didn't know he was going like
[40:04] Speaker 3: that that fast.
[40:06] Speaker 1: But, yeah.
[40:07] Speaker 3: I love my chances still. Okay, Mr.
[40:09] Speaker 2: B still loves his chances. We will get a full
[40:10] Speaker 2: one-on-one game in the near future. You went out there
[40:14] Speaker 2: as Brandon Jennings. You didn't go out there as Mr. B.
[40:16] Speaker 1: You're supposed to take two shots and go crazy. I mean,
[40:21] Speaker 1: fuck him.
[40:22] Speaker 3: Go crazy.
[40:24] Speaker 1: Did you hear me on my bad, Lou?
[40:26] Speaker 7: My bad, my bad, Luna. That's what you're supposed to say.
[40:28] Speaker 3: The Luna hit me good, man.
[40:31] Speaker 7: The Luna hit me good, man. My bad. The chat
[40:34] Speaker 7: said it was a travel. I said, I know where
[40:36] Speaker 7: I'm at. I know what's going on. So we got
[40:37] Speaker 7: home court advantage.
[40:38] Speaker 3: That's exactly what's going on. You know what I'm saying?
[40:40] Speaker 2: And we've been planning this since yesterday. We've been planning
[40:42] Speaker 2: this since last night. We were all playback discussing, and
[40:45] Speaker 2: we got plenty of time.
[40:45] Speaker 3: And I already said to you, we're going to call
[40:46] Speaker 3: travel on them. Yeah, yeah, yeah. We're going to do
[40:48] Speaker 3: as big a taste of it. I'll do everything.
[40:50] Speaker 1: We ain't going to get no calls.
[40:51] Speaker 2: We got plenty of more finals talk later in the show.
[40:54] Speaker 7: You know what I'm saying?
[40:55] Speaker 1: I ain't gonna let him teach.
[40:57] Speaker 7: Nah, listen, if we could structure it right, man, I.
[41:00] Speaker 8: Think it could be something fun and special for the
[41:01] Speaker 8: fans to enjoy. If it has the right structure with
[41:05] Speaker 8: the right intentions, man, I'd definitely be down to do it,
[41:07] Speaker 8: have some fun.
[41:09] Speaker 3: You know what I've, every time I've been watching just one-on-one, even,
[41:12] Speaker 3: you know, the young boys out there that's doing their thing,
[41:15] Speaker 3: one-on-one is a skilled thing, right? It's about creativity and skill.
[41:23] Speaker 3: And I think I don't know what's happened, but it
[41:25] Speaker 3: became this brute type of basketball. Even from back when
[41:28] Speaker 3: I was playing and watching King of the Hill and
[41:31] Speaker 3: all that, and the people who were winning, it was
[41:34] Speaker 3: always these power forward type dudes that just sitting there.
[41:38] Speaker 3: You know what I mean? That's not one-on-one. One-on-one was
[41:41] Speaker 3: a skilled team. skilled type, see who has the skills
[41:45] Speaker 3: and the creativity. And it's just usually just brute fouling,
[41:48] Speaker 3: who can foul the hardest and stuff like that.
[41:50] Speaker 7: I'm like, yeah, that ain't, that's what I'm saying.
[41:52] Speaker 8: Like what, what does it look like just hacking the
[41:55] Speaker 8: shit out of it?
[41:56] Speaker 1: We too small guards just hacking.
[41:58] Speaker 7: No, we got skills. Yeah, we got skillset.
[42:00] Speaker 1: Well, that's what Steph said he wanted to do to you.
[42:03] Speaker 3: Yeah, without a ball.
[42:04] Speaker 4: Steph said he want to play basketball in the paint.
[42:07] Speaker 1: Yeah, he don't need no foul.
[42:08] Speaker 3: Oh, yes. Yes, yeah. No foul?
[42:11] Speaker 1: Come on, man. Without a ball. Oh, you didn't just
[42:15] Speaker 1: say block. I don't give a fuck what it is.
[42:17] Speaker 3: Block.
[42:18] Speaker 1: Call it on, shit. There's no ball.
[42:23] Speaker 3: Easy basket. Nah, nigga, block.
[42:26] Speaker 2: Speaking of one-on-one, let's go back to one of the
[42:28] Speaker 2: viral stories of last weekend. Lance Stevenson and Michael Beasley
[42:31] Speaker 2: played one-on-one at the next chapter with $ 1, 000 on the line.
[42:35] Speaker 2: So the night before they played, Beasley delivered an epic promo.
[42:38] Speaker 2: Let's take a look.
[42:39] Speaker 3: I'm going to do it to you real nice and slow.
[42:42] Speaker 1: I'm going to do it to you sexy.
[42:44] Speaker 3: I'm going to make them people love you tonight. You understand?
[42:48] Speaker 1: For real.
[42:48] Speaker 3: I'm going to make the people love you. I'm going
[42:51] Speaker 3: to have you shake your ass, nigga. I'm going to
[42:53] Speaker 3: make you dance, Lance. I'm going to make you dance, Lance.
[42:57] Speaker 3: We're going to get straight to it, nigga. I'm going
[43:00] Speaker 3: to bring my dancing shoes and I'm going to tap
[43:02] Speaker 3: all over that court. You understand? I ain't got that
[43:06] Speaker 3: shaking ass.
[43:07] Speaker 7: I ain't got that shaking ass.
[43:10] Speaker 1: Nobody in the world ever did that. Hello, everybody. Nobody
[43:16] Speaker 1: at your service. I'm going to have you shaking ass.
[43:22] Speaker 7: Classic me.
[43:23] Speaker 3: No, because he caught him off guard. He's from Brooklyn,
[43:25] Speaker 3: so he ain't talk like that. He probably just like...
[43:28] Speaker 3: Caught him off guard.
[43:29] Speaker 1: No, what does that mean? You don't know what to
[43:32] Speaker 1: say to that.
[43:33] Speaker 3: It seemed like he was.
[43:35] Speaker 1: Trying to figure out.
[43:36] Speaker 3: Because, you know, Lance talks shit. So, you know, it's
[43:39] Speaker 3: going to be real sexy out there. You ain't heard that.
[43:42] Speaker 3: You ain't heard that. You ain't heard that.
[43:46] Speaker 1: No, no.
[43:47] Speaker 4: He could, Michael, but he's caught his ass off guard.
[43:51] Speaker 3: There's no rebuttal for that. I'm going to be real sexy.
[43:53] Speaker 3: I'm going to make you shake an ass.
[43:54] Speaker 7: What you supposed to say back to that?
[43:56] Speaker 1: I'm going to shake it.
[43:57] Speaker 3: Like, no, I ain't.
[44:01] Speaker 1: Incredible stuff right there. You better bring some dollars. Ain't
[44:03] Speaker 1: nobody ever made me do this shit. I'm nobody. That
[44:06] Speaker 1: was probably my favorite part.
[44:08] Speaker 3: I'm nobody.
[44:09] Speaker 2: That's incredible stuff from Michael Beasley right there. But as
[44:13] Speaker 2: for the game itself, let's take a look at the
[44:17] Speaker 2: action and how it broke down. So Beasley won the
[44:19] Speaker 2: matchup by a score of 31-21, taking home the $ 1, 000 prize.
[44:23] Speaker 7: $ 100, 000.
[44:24] Speaker 1: He used a variety of moves. Okay, players fuck up
[44:28] Speaker 1: too fast. Whole fuck up. He used a variety of
[44:31] Speaker 1: moves in his bag to get the job done against Lance.
[44:35] Speaker 3: And the Dion.
[44:35] Speaker 1: Stuff like this.
[44:37] Speaker 7: That was the first thing I saw Gil.
[44:38] Speaker 1: The Dion? Yeah.
[44:39] Speaker 7: This nigga and Dion.
[44:40] Speaker 3: I didn't care about nothing. But look.
[44:43] Speaker 7: Look how he milked his time. Listen, we all hoopers.
[44:46] Speaker 7: We know that feeling. All this shit burning up.
[44:48] Speaker 1: Everything.
[44:49] Speaker 7: Your chest, your stomach, everything burning up.
[44:51] Speaker 3: I need a breather.
[44:52] Speaker 6: So I felt out there when we was playing in
[44:55] Speaker 6: the Creators League.
[44:57] Speaker 3: Remember, we need a breather.
[44:59] Speaker 8: Nah, but listen, I hit my man Frigga, and shout
[45:02] Speaker 8: out to Frigga, who was one of the guys that
[45:04] Speaker 8: helped put that event on. I said, yo, I got
[45:06] Speaker 8: some free game for you, man. Do a three-game series.
[45:08] Speaker 8: Game's 2-11. Every game, let guys breathe in between. You
[45:12] Speaker 8: might get a better game out of it. That 30 straight.
[45:14] Speaker 7: Is a monster.
[45:15] Speaker 3: Yeah.
[45:15] Speaker 1: They took a break at 15?
[45:16] Speaker 3: Yeah, they got to.
[45:18] Speaker 4: This shit was, listen, it was 15-13, right? This shit
[45:21] Speaker 4: stayed at 13. That motherfucker was 29-13. Boy, listen, B's
[45:25] Speaker 4: ran off.
[45:26] Speaker 7: Hey, boy, ready.
[45:28] Speaker 1: Hey, born ready. Hey, man, that man an issue.
[45:33] Speaker 2: So after the game, two competitors followed up on social media.
[45:36] Speaker 2: Let's take a look at how that played out. So
[45:40] Speaker 2: Lance put up an IG story saying, Great game, bro.
[45:43] Speaker 2: To which Beasley responded, I love you to the moon
[45:45] Speaker 2: and back. Now grab a cigarette and a towel. We
[45:48] Speaker 2: made a sex tape.
[45:49] Speaker 7: Yeah, I don't know.
[45:54] Speaker 4: Yeah, I don't know about that, man.
[46:00] Speaker 8: B's taking this shit a little too far.
[46:03] Speaker 7: He taking it too far.
[46:04] Speaker 3: Cigarette and a towel. No, I mean, they promoted that good, man.
[46:08] Speaker 3: I had people who wasn't even basketball fans. Like, yo,
[46:13] Speaker 3: what is it coming on that?
[46:15] Speaker 7: Yeah, got my $ 20.
[46:16] Speaker 3: Yeah.
[46:16] Speaker 7: Yeah, got my $ 20. I rolled up and watched.
[46:20] Speaker 1: I mean, they did that. I mean, Creators League. That
[46:26] Speaker 1: wasn't Creators League.
[46:28] Speaker 3: That was Next Chapter. Next Chapter. Like, I've watched it
[46:31] Speaker 3: from the beginning. They do a great job in making
[46:35] Speaker 3: you interested in, you know, the follow along. They promote
[46:40] Speaker 3: it well. That was a good event. But, I mean,
[46:43] Speaker 3: just to change it, probably... Yeah, just three quarters.
[46:48] Speaker 8: And it might stretch out the games a little longer,
[46:50] Speaker 8: give you a better product, people will be more entertained.
[46:54] Speaker 8: But it was a great start. We haven't seen a
[46:56] Speaker 8: lot of these concepts get off the ground before. So
[46:58] Speaker 8: for them to even actually go through with it, finish
[47:01] Speaker 8: it all the way through, even though they had a
[47:02] Speaker 8: bunch of the other shit going on, I thought it
[47:05] Speaker 8: was good for the game. To have so many retired
[47:08] Speaker 8: athletes have so many different avenues to still pick up
[47:10] Speaker 8: the basketball, I think that shit is fire.
[47:13] Speaker 1: So looking at that, go ahead, Mr. B.
[47:15] Speaker 6: So did they just have to just play for $ 100K?
[47:17] Speaker 6: Or the money off the pay-per-view, did they get paid
[47:20] Speaker 6: off that too?
[47:21] Speaker 3: Or what was it?
[47:22] Speaker 8: I don't want to spill the sauce, but I think
[47:26] Speaker 8: that was the base.
[47:28] Speaker 3: Okay. Yeah. Okay.
[47:31] Speaker 2: Did you expect Michael Beasley to beat Lance Stevenson so badly.
[47:35] Speaker 3: In that game? Yes. Yeah.
[47:37] Speaker 1: No doubt in your mind.
[47:38] Speaker 6: That's the fucked up part of this. Yeah, but just
[47:40] Speaker 6: off the matchup, though, it's not that Lance. It's not
[47:43] Speaker 6: that Lance is not a number one player either.
[47:44] Speaker 8: He's going to do that to a lot of guys,
[47:46] Speaker 8: especially undersized guys.
[47:47] Speaker 3: 15-13, man. That man was 29-13, man. He's a big guard, man.
[47:54] Speaker 3: It's not like Lance is going to try to play
[47:57] Speaker 3: bully basketball with B's, but for the most part, Lance
[48:00] Speaker 3: plays regular D's, not dirty. So, you know, either way,
[48:05] Speaker 3: B's can play physical or finesse. But, I mean, that's
[48:09] Speaker 3: what B's do.
[48:10] Speaker 1: He's a one-on-one player.
[48:13] Speaker 7: Where the Melo thing come from?
[48:15] Speaker 8: Did he say that or that's just something the internet
[48:18] Speaker 8: put out?
[48:19] Speaker 1: I don't want to see Melo play one-on-one, though.
[48:22] Speaker 3: No? I just want to see him put the jacket on.
[48:26] Speaker 1: Leave Melo alone?
[48:27] Speaker 3: He done enough.
[48:28] Speaker 7: I agree with that, too. But Melo wanted him to
[48:32] Speaker 7: hear Lace Up, though.
[48:34] Speaker 3: Yeah, it was a bunch. I know Knowing Melo, you
[48:38] Speaker 3: said his name. He going to get in shape first.
[48:41] Speaker 1: Then he'll respond.
[48:44] Speaker 3: That's a mellow thing. Yeah, mellow being at my mother's place.
[48:47] Speaker 3: 12 hours a day just working out. Say, who called
[48:50] Speaker 3: my name?
[48:52] Speaker 7: He going to get right first. Yeah, that's a fact.
[48:54] Speaker 2: You just spar with your son. Spar with your son
[49:00] Speaker 2: for a minute. But y'all don't want to see it
[49:02] Speaker 2: for the streets?
[49:03] Speaker 8: For the culture, I would love to see it. I
[49:06] Speaker 8: don't think it happens, but I would love to see it.
[49:11] Speaker 3: Mike Beasley, Joe Johnson. I mean, that'd be, I mean,
[49:13] Speaker 3: that'd be a good... Because that's what they both do.
[49:19] Speaker 3: They just... they're both one-on-one players at its finest. Even
[49:24] Speaker 3: though Beasley hasn't had the career that Mello had, I mean,
[49:27] Speaker 3: there's not a lot of people that went up against
[49:31] Speaker 3: B or seen him play and just be like, all right, nah,
[49:35] Speaker 3: fuck his resume.
[49:36] Speaker 1: He can't beat me. There's nobody at his position.
[49:40] Speaker 3: In the league, X league, that will just challenge him,
[49:43] Speaker 3: thinking a resume is worth some shit to him.
[49:46] Speaker 1: I bet one of them NBA players won't play him
[49:47] Speaker 1: for his job.
[49:48] Speaker 3: Nope.
[49:52] Speaker 1: Hold this stuff, man.
[49:54] Speaker 3: If he said, Rui, hey, let me play you for
[49:56] Speaker 3: your job, and I get on that team, they'd be like, yeah,
[49:58] Speaker 3: I'm good. They wouldn't do it.
[50:00] Speaker 1: He'd say, yeah, then, hey, Bron, what you think? Stop.
[50:03] Speaker 7: They wouldn't do it.
[50:04] Speaker 1: Only a couple people in the NBA, bro, right now. Yeah,
[50:07] Speaker 1: that's what's up.
[50:09] Speaker 2: So we know 5-on-5 is different than 1-on-1. Beasley had
[50:11] Speaker 2: an amazing college career at Kansas State. Pro career didn't
[50:15] Speaker 2: necessarily live up to what the expectations were. But how
[50:17] Speaker 2: good of an individual scorer is Michael Beasley?
[50:20] Speaker 3: Elite. Yeah. Elite.
[50:22] Speaker 7: Got the size. He got physicality. He got the skill set.
[50:26] Speaker 3: A dog.
[50:27] Speaker 8: That's why that was even interesting to begin with. Even
[50:30] Speaker 8: before they played, everybody was like, ain't nobody beat Mike
[50:32] Speaker 8: Beasley in one-on-one. That's been his pedigree as long as
[50:35] Speaker 8: you've known him.
[50:36] Speaker 7: They go back to middle school, high school, AAU.
[50:39] Speaker 8: At every level, Mike Beasley has been the same person
[50:43] Speaker 8: when it comes to playing basketball. That's a matchup a
[50:46] Speaker 8: lot of guys don't want to see. Household names don't
[50:49] Speaker 8: want to see Beasley. You know, so the NBA didn't
[50:51] Speaker 8: go his way. But even when he was in NBA jerseys,
[50:54] Speaker 8: he still was a threat at all times.
[50:58] Speaker 6: Ever since high school, growing up, I mean, he was
[51:00] Speaker 6: the best to me. I had all those guys. I mean,
[51:02] Speaker 6: he had the O.J. Mills, all those guys in his class.
[51:04] Speaker 6: But to me, he was just the one that could
[51:07] Speaker 6: always score from 12 to 15 feet.
[51:09] Speaker 3: And it was automatic.
[51:11] Speaker 1: I'll bring in my next question.
[51:12] Speaker 2: Obviously, you guys seen a lot of basketball play with
[51:14] Speaker 2: and against a lot of hoopers in your time. What
[51:17] Speaker 2: would be the best one-on-one matchup, in your opinion? Two
[51:20] Speaker 2: guys in their prime playing one-on-one. What would you like
[51:23] Speaker 2: to see?
[51:24] Speaker 3: Ever?
[51:24] Speaker 1: Just ever?
[51:25] Speaker 3: Ever. Anything. Anything.
[51:28] Speaker 2: You could pick two guys to play one-on-one against each other.
[51:30] Speaker 2: Roll the ball out, three dribbles, five dribbles, whatever y'all
[51:33] Speaker 2: want to do.
[51:34] Speaker 1: For my generation, Kobe and T-Mac.
[51:38] Speaker 3: I'll bounce around. I like A.I. and Steph.
[51:41] Speaker 1: Ooh. Who you think is winning that matchup?
[51:44] Speaker 8: You know, I ain't never going better against Big Bro.
[51:48] Speaker 8: I like that matchup. He gonna get me cooked on
[51:51] Speaker 8: this shit.
[51:52] Speaker 3: I was fishing.
[51:54] Speaker 1: That's what we call fishing in the industry.
[51:56] Speaker 7: Yeah.
[51:58] Speaker 3: For me, I'm going to say Jamal Crawford versus Lou Will. Yeah.
[52:03] Speaker 1: I like that.
[52:03] Speaker 7: Me and Maul actually played one-on-one on camera. But we
[52:08] Speaker 7: keeping it to ourselves.
[52:10] Speaker 1: How much you beating by?
[52:11] Speaker 7: We keep it to ourselves. Me and Maul, we had
[52:14] Speaker 7: some fun.
[52:14] Speaker 8: We had filmed a promo for the Clippers at the
[52:18] Speaker 8: beginning of this season to introduce the Intuit Dome.
[52:21] Speaker 7: We was messing around. You know how it get.
[52:23] Speaker 3: You know how it get.
[52:27] Speaker 7: We had some fun, but we kept it to ourselves.
[52:29] Speaker 1: Will we ever see that video, Lee?
[52:33] Speaker 8: Never say never, but it was one of them things
[52:35] Speaker 8: that was just for me and him. You know what
[52:37] Speaker 8: I'm saying?
[52:38] Speaker 2: It was just for us.
[52:39] Speaker 7: You know what I'm saying?
[52:41] Speaker 2: So, Kane, question back to you. One-on-one, two players in
[52:43] Speaker 2: their prime could be anybody. Who would you want to
[52:45] Speaker 2: see battle it out on the court? Brian Scalabrini. George Niang.
[52:59] Speaker 1: Scalabrini versus Niang. Just slap it down.
[53:04] Speaker 7: That might be too.
[53:05] Speaker 3: Much of a big body for George, man.
[53:09] Speaker 1: No, on a serious note. Mr. B, what'd you say?
[53:14] Speaker 1: Can I reverse Steph? No, that's not a.
[53:17] Speaker 2: Because we saw that in 2016.
[53:21] Speaker 3: Steph has to get somebody that's kind of like him.
[53:24] Speaker 1: Like, even AI. AI's first step is.
[53:27] Speaker 3: There's only too many people that can keep up with
[53:30] Speaker 3: the first step. They're going to be playing two versus three.
[53:32] Speaker 1: I'm going to say, hold on. Jamal, Madge, and Big
[53:34] Speaker 1: Dog come.
[53:38] Speaker 2: Jamal Mashburn and Big Dawg.
[53:42] Speaker 7: I'd throw O.G. Ray Allen in that mix. Like a
[53:45] Speaker 7: Seattle Ray Allen and Milwaukee Bucks. Absolutely.
[53:50] Speaker 1: Yeah, I would only see that one. All right, well,
[53:53] Speaker 1: most definitely, sir.
[53:54] Speaker 7: Ooh, I got it.
[53:55] Speaker 1: What you got?
[53:56] Speaker 3: Baron Davis, Steve Francis.
[53:58] Speaker 7: I like that.
[54:00] Speaker 1: I like that. These are too big. But there's more skill.
[54:04] Speaker 1: You ain't got no... But you know what's funny?
[54:06] Speaker 3: That's why NBA players be like, two dribbles. Because in
[54:11] Speaker 3: two dribbles, you can't be physical basketball.
[54:15] Speaker 1: BD winning that one.
[54:17] Speaker 7: Two dribbles?
[54:17] Speaker 1: Two dribbles, BD winning that one. You give him more
[54:21] Speaker 1: than two?
[54:21] Speaker 3: I don't know.
[54:23] Speaker 4: You give him more than two, Steve. I'm going to
[54:24] Speaker 4: go with Steve. But you give him two, because BD
[54:27] Speaker 4: got that.
[54:29] Speaker 1: He gonna win. It's that pop away. He got that.
[54:33] Speaker 1: And he big. He gonna put that shoulder on you.
[54:35] Speaker 1: He a big ass guard, man.
[54:37] Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah.
[54:38] Speaker 1: That boy.
[54:39] Speaker 3: What about Kobe versus Mike?
[54:41] Speaker 1: Yeah, because that's easy.
[54:43] Speaker 3: I was going.
[54:44] Speaker 1: That's too easy.
[54:46] Speaker 4: Yeah, we got to be more creative.
[54:50] Speaker 1: We got to be more creative, Brandon. Who wins Kobe
[54:52] Speaker 1: versus Mike both in their prime? No, we're not going
[54:53] Speaker 1: to have that conversation. That's too easy.
[54:57] Speaker 3: That's. To be honest, it all depends on the rules.
[55:00] Speaker 3: What rules? Dribble rules, if it's unlimited. You got to remember.
[55:06] Speaker 1: Same thing, two, three dribbles. Same thing that everybody else plays.
[55:09] Speaker 7: They both put their back to the basket.
[55:11] Speaker 1: Depending on which Mike.
[55:14] Speaker 7: They both put their backs to the basket.
[55:15] Speaker 3: 80s, 90s Mike, then he has a clear advantage because
[55:18] Speaker 3: his first step is just unreal.
[55:19] Speaker 1: So just say the best version of both of them.
[55:27] Speaker 1: Which one is that one?
[55:28] Speaker 3: For one-on-one or just NBA perfect? The 30-year-old Mike or
[55:33] Speaker 3: the 80s Mike with the first step that's just going
[55:34] Speaker 3: to dunk on every day? The number eight Kobe or
[55:36] Speaker 3: you want the two-four?
[55:38] Speaker 4: I'm going to go eight and the motherfucking one before
[55:41] Speaker 4: the championship Mike.
[55:43] Speaker 1: The 90s Mike?
[55:44] Speaker 3: The like 89? The chain? It's him.
[55:46] Speaker 1: The gold chain Mike.
[55:47] Speaker 7: The 48 inch for Mike?
[55:48] Speaker 3: It's him.
[55:51] Speaker 7: I don't know about that.
[55:52] Speaker 1: Yeah, I was going to say.
[55:53] Speaker 3: Like, y'all got to think, but you got to think about.
[55:55] Speaker 1: The engine of Mike versus the engine of Kobe. There
[55:58] Speaker 1: is a big difference.
[56:01] Speaker 9: Right?
[56:01] Speaker 1: It's like Mike Vert versus your Vert.
[56:02] Speaker 7: That's a big difference. That's what I'm saying. See, Mike
[56:04] Speaker 7: might be at the casino with his cigar.
[56:07] Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying?
[56:08] Speaker 7: Kobe's somewhere with the lights off getting it in.
[56:10] Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying?
[56:12] Speaker 7: Back to the basket.
[56:13] Speaker 3: I'll do, like, I'll do, like, the three-peat Mike and
[56:21] Speaker 3: a 24 Kobe. Where it's more, it's more. There's multiple people.
[56:25] Speaker 3: The later on, like. The second 3P. The 3P, like
[56:29] Speaker 3: 3P Mike.
[56:30] Speaker 1: Any of those, that nigga right there.
[56:32] Speaker 3: Any of those.
[56:33] Speaker 7: The first three or the second?
[56:34] Speaker 3: The second three.
[56:35] Speaker 1: Okay, that's what I'm saying.
[56:35] Speaker 3: The thinker. I want the thinker versus the thinker. I
[56:38] Speaker 3: don't want the athleticism.
[56:39] Speaker 1: Yeah. Right, I'll do the thinker versus the thinker to
[56:41] Speaker 1: see who really is methodical. I dig it.
[56:46] Speaker 3: So you want the 96, 97, 98? Yeah, 96, 97.
[56:50] Speaker 3: Versus that second, I would say second. He got paid
[56:55] Speaker 3: the second one. That first three, he was still. That
[56:59] Speaker 3: 2010 cold, but like anywhere in that 2008, 9, 10 cold,
[57:02] Speaker 3: that one. Now it's both. They both right here. It's
[57:06] Speaker 3: all mental, a little physical, but you know.
[57:09] Speaker 7: Who you got, though?
[57:11] Speaker 1: Still didn't pick nobody. Can you say we're not doing that,
[57:14] Speaker 1: but we are.
[57:16] Speaker 3: Looks like we are.
[57:17] Speaker 7: If anybody going to answer this, it's going to be him.
[57:18] Speaker 3: I'm going to go Colb.
[57:20] Speaker 1: Wow.
[57:20] Speaker 3: Okay. That's tough.
[57:23] Speaker 2: Uh-oh, we're about to get another last dance. It really
[57:25] Speaker 2: didn't matter what you said. I hope you're not watching.
[57:27] Speaker 3: I'm thinking just about if they started a three-point line,
[57:30] Speaker 3: one has a three-point advantage versus the other. It all depends.
[57:36] Speaker 3: But they're going to play real. They're going to do spots.
[57:39] Speaker 3: Post-up spots.
[57:40] Speaker 1: We're going to do mid-range.
[57:41] Speaker 3: We're going to do top of the game.
[57:42] Speaker 1: They're going to do some shit that just, yeah.
[57:45] Speaker 2: They're not going to be running around. Let's keep this
[57:51] Speaker 2: thing moving. We have stirred the pot sufficiently. I hope
[57:53] Speaker 2: MJ not watching with the long cigar. I got a
[57:55] Speaker 2: good one. I got a good one. Angel Reese versus
[58:01] Speaker 2: Bill Russell.
[58:03] Speaker 3: Man, come on, man.
[58:06] Speaker 1: They're both rebound gods.
[58:08] Speaker 7: I think Angel Reese gets better, though.
[58:10] Speaker 3: She's still very early in the game. She gets better
[58:13] Speaker 3: and better. One shot 40% against White.
[58:16] Speaker 7: I think it's a lot of room. I was about
[58:20] Speaker 7: to say the political shit.
[58:21] Speaker 1: I'm just saying.
[58:22] Speaker 3: But I think she got a lot.
[58:23] Speaker 1: It was a different time. He was doing a lot
[58:25] Speaker 1: of shit off the court, Gil.
[58:26] Speaker 4: It ain't got nothing to do with the fact that
[58:28] Speaker 4: he was bigger than everybody and he shot 40% from the.
[58:30] Speaker 3: Field, man. I don't know how anybody just goes past that.
[58:34] Speaker 4: I don't know how you want to cut it, however
[58:36] Speaker 4: you want to skip it. The fact that this motherfucker
[58:39] Speaker 4: was one of the tallest players in the NBA at
[58:41] Speaker 4: the time and shot 40% from the field is fucking amazing.
[58:44] Speaker 1: For the career. For the career. There was times where
[58:46] Speaker 1: he shot 40, 30, like... That shit is crazy. While
[58:49] Speaker 1: the other black people shot 56.
[58:51] Speaker 3: Bill Russell didn't want to play in St.
[58:53] Speaker 1: Louis because it was too racist, so he went to Boston.
[58:56] Speaker 3: Yeah, thanks.
[58:57] Speaker 7: You just.
[58:58] Speaker 3: In fact, when they had Lord Duncan, you just still... Just...
[59:02] Speaker 3: I mean, Bill, I mean, shit, you know back then
[59:07] Speaker 3: you can goaltend the shot, so as soon as they
[59:09] Speaker 3: shoot it, he can just catch it and just do that.
[59:12] Speaker 3: You miss that too?
[59:12] Speaker 8: Let me ask you, what's your opposition when it comes
[59:15] Speaker 8: to the conversation about the 70s and 80s matching up
[59:19] Speaker 8: against current players?
[59:22] Speaker 3: The same thing you think you will bop the fuck
[59:24] Speaker 3: out of the same thing the 80s thought about the
[59:26] Speaker 3: 70s Okay, we will beat y'all ass same thing the
[59:29] Speaker 3: 90s thought about the 80s We will reach all as
[59:31] Speaker 3: the same thing the 2000s thought about the 1990s. We
[59:34] Speaker 3: will be John.
[59:34] Speaker 8: It's I like what they smash it I just make
[59:37] Speaker 8: a by 70 too good.
[59:39] Speaker 7: I wouldn't even be able to play with.
[59:40] Speaker 1: These guys Just like somebody asked me that was like man,
[59:43] Speaker 1: what would you do against that?
[59:48] Speaker 3: And I'd be like, hell yeah, I'd stop him. Then
[59:50] Speaker 3: I had to think, wait, hold on, wait a minute.
[59:52] Speaker 3: I'd never played against nothing like that. Like, you know,
[59:55] Speaker 3: I'm Mike James, you know what I mean? I'm Eric
[59:58] Speaker 3: Snow around that motherfucker. I stayed away from the ones
[59:59] Speaker 3: that could score.
[1:00:00] Speaker 8: Like, Rip was probably the best version of how Steph played.
[1:00:04] Speaker 3: Rip, and I didn't want no parts of that. Give
[1:00:06] Speaker 3: me Chons. Give me Prince.
[1:00:09] Speaker 1: That motherfucker sit on the side, right?
[1:00:11] Speaker 3: So, yeah, this is too evolved than what I, I
[1:00:15] Speaker 3: can't pretend that I'm Advanced to what they're doing now.
[1:00:19] Speaker 1: I didn't see none of.
[1:00:20] Speaker 3: These motherfucking moves. Yeah, I had troubles to be honest
[1:00:23] Speaker 3: With the euro step when it came out Why the
[1:00:26] Speaker 3: fuck am I gonna go here to here? Yeah And
[1:00:29] Speaker 3: I can just go straight.
[1:00:31] Speaker 1: The concept of it.
[1:00:32] Speaker 3: Just didn't make sense.
[1:00:33] Speaker 7: That was the thing, too. When guys first start a
[1:00:35] Speaker 7: year or so, they'll be like, yeah, that's a trap.
[1:00:37] Speaker 3: What is that?
[1:00:38] Speaker 7: We didn't even know what it was.
[1:00:40] Speaker 3: Ginobili brought it to the league.
[1:00:42] Speaker 1: I'm going to be real.
[1:00:43] Speaker 2: Elgin Bailey was doing that back in the 60s.
[1:00:47] Speaker 3: If you look at your game and see anything, you
[1:00:49] Speaker 3: did it just naturally.
[1:00:51] Speaker 1: But to come down and say, all right, he's over here.
[1:00:53] Speaker 3: I'm going to pop. Pop and did it. Yeah, and
[1:00:56] Speaker 3: sometimes go forward, then back. It was like the movement
[1:00:59] Speaker 3: was so different. I'm aiming at the rim. Even that same,
[1:01:02] Speaker 3: that same, same, I couldn't get the concept. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.
[1:01:06] Speaker 2: So we have an important poll that we asked to chat.
[1:01:08] Speaker 2: We asked to chat who wins in a one-on-one game,
[1:01:10] Speaker 2: Jordan or Kobe. 50-50 split. Over 2,000 votes.
[1:01:14] Speaker 1: Ain't no way.
[1:01:15] Speaker 2: Split 50-50. I'm waiting for it to jump from one
[1:01:18] Speaker 2: side to the other. It has not shifted.
[1:01:20] Speaker 3: I believe it because they both got the same mechanics. Yeah.
[1:01:23] Speaker 1: It'll be $ 2, 000.
[1:01:24] Speaker 3: Best first.
[1:01:25] Speaker 1: So back to you, Lou.
[1:01:26] Speaker 2: As I mentioned in the intro, six man of the
[1:01:28] Speaker 2: year three times, something only Jamal Crawford has done besides
[1:01:31] Speaker 2: you in NBA history. So what made you such an
[1:01:34] Speaker 2: effective scorer off the bench?
[1:01:41] Speaker 8: I knew I only had a short amount of time
[1:01:44] Speaker 8: to make it happen.
[1:01:46] Speaker 7: That was one of the things that I had to
[1:01:48] Speaker 7: get adjusted to.
[1:01:49] Speaker 3: Being, being wired for that.
[1:01:51] Speaker 8: And I was kind of naive. I didn't even understand.
[1:01:54] Speaker 8: I didn't even understand what being a six man was.
[1:01:57] Speaker 7: I was just, I was.
[1:01:58] Speaker 8: So young and still trying to figure out how to
[1:02:00] Speaker 8: stay on the court that it really wasn't even like
[1:02:03] Speaker 8: a thing to me. They had to tell me that J.R.
[1:02:05] Speaker 8: Smith beat me for the six man of the year
[1:02:07] Speaker 8: award early in my career.
[1:02:09] Speaker 7: It wasn't on my radar. It wasn't something I was
[1:02:11] Speaker 7: going for. I was just hoping.
[1:02:13] Speaker 8: And they just came in and was like, hey, by
[1:02:15] Speaker 8: the way, you came in second and six man voting.
[1:02:17] Speaker 8: I was like, what the fuck that mean?
[1:02:19] Speaker 1: Like what?
[1:02:20] Speaker 8: Like, what does that mean? I literally didn't understand what
[1:02:23] Speaker 8: it meant until then. And I was like, oh, it's
[1:02:25] Speaker 8: an award? Like, bro, I was so happy to be
[1:02:29] Speaker 8: in the NBA. Personal accolades and awards never crossed my mind.
[1:02:34] Speaker 7: I was just a wide-eyed kid. Like, I'm really living
[1:02:37] Speaker 7: my dream.
[1:02:39] Speaker 6: Yo, so how was that coming off the bench? Like,
[1:02:41] Speaker 6: you know, because you came out of high school. You
[1:02:42] Speaker 6: were a star starting and everything. Like, how was that adjustment?
[1:02:47] Speaker 8: The adjustment for me was... I knew that I wasn't
[1:02:49] Speaker 8: going to play. So when I got drafted, they said, look,
[1:02:54] Speaker 8: obviously we got AI, we got Kevin Ali, we got
[1:02:56] Speaker 8: Willie Green. You're 17 years old. We're going to bring
[1:03:01] Speaker 8: you along. You're two years out. That was what I
[1:03:04] Speaker 8: was told from the beginning. You're two years out.
[1:03:07] Speaker 7: So knowing that, I went in there and was like, well,
[1:03:09] Speaker 7: all right, ain't no pressure on me.
[1:03:11] Speaker 8: Ain't no pressure for me to be effective soon, so
[1:03:13] Speaker 8: let me just keep working on my game, keep working
[1:03:16] Speaker 8: on my game. First year, I played in 23 games.
[1:03:19] Speaker 8: I probably played less than seven to eight minutes in
[1:03:22] Speaker 8: those 23 games. Second year, I felt like I was there.
[1:03:25] Speaker 8: You know how you're competing in practice, and you bust
[1:03:28] Speaker 8: them up. You're like, all right, I'm ready. Still no time.
[1:03:32] Speaker 8: So my agent and I, we was just like, yo,
[1:03:35] Speaker 8: he got to get on the court. And at the time,
[1:03:37] Speaker 8: it was the D League instead of the G League.
[1:03:38] Speaker 8: It was the Developmental League. So they sent me down
[1:03:40] Speaker 8: to Fort Worth, Texas. And I got there on a Monday.
[1:03:44] Speaker 8: Played in three games, had 40 in all three.
[1:03:46] Speaker 1: Games, by the way. The Mad Ants? What were the four?
[1:03:51] Speaker 3: Flyers, Fort Worth Flyers.
[1:03:54] Speaker 8: Got on a nine-hour bus ride to Little Rock, Arkansas.
[1:03:59] Speaker 8: Literally 30 minutes of me getting in my room, I
[1:04:01] Speaker 8: get a call on a hotel phone saying, yo, we
[1:04:07] Speaker 8: need you to get to the airport fastest you can
[1:04:09] Speaker 8: and get to Philly. They need you up there.
[1:04:12] Speaker 3: I said, what happened?
[1:04:13] Speaker 8: They said, turn on the news. They traded AI. AI
[1:04:17] Speaker 8: gets traded. I get to Philly at halftime of the
[1:04:21] Speaker 8: Wizards game. And I played the whole third and fourth
[1:04:25] Speaker 8: quarter and never looked back.
[1:04:27] Speaker 7: Never, never, never looked back.
[1:04:29] Speaker 8: So I'd never had the opportunity to really digest where
[1:04:33] Speaker 8: my career was going. I got threw in the fire
[1:04:36] Speaker 8: and it just never stopped from there. Then, I'm averaging
[1:04:39] Speaker 8: 20 some points a game, starting the whole nine, got
[1:04:42] Speaker 8: my opportunity, break my jaw.
[1:04:45] Speaker 7: Break my jaw, six to eight weeks. Guess what they
[1:04:48] Speaker 7: bring back to the Sixers?
[1:04:51] Speaker 1: AI.
[1:04:51] Speaker 3: AI.
[1:04:52] Speaker 8: I get healthy, they get back on the court, they say, yo,
[1:04:56] Speaker 8: we're going to bring you off the bench because it
[1:04:58] Speaker 8: won't be good for AI mentally for him to come
[1:05:01] Speaker 8: off the bench in Philadelphia.
[1:05:04] Speaker 7: Hell yeah, that makes sense to me. You know what
[1:05:06] Speaker 7: I'm saying? That makes sense to me. I wish I
[1:05:09] Speaker 7: would have just fought that a little bit more.
[1:05:12] Speaker 8: I wish I would have fought, not because of AI,
[1:05:14] Speaker 8: but because of where I was. Because of where I
[1:05:17] Speaker 8: was and where I was going. If I was more
[1:05:20] Speaker 8: business savvy and how the business worked at that time,
[1:05:22] Speaker 8: I probably.
[1:05:23] Speaker 7: Would have asked for a trade or something. Nah, but again,
[1:05:26] Speaker 7: that's my big bro.
[1:05:27] Speaker 1: He was there when you got there.
[1:05:29] Speaker 8: Yeah, that's big dog to me. So of course I'm
[1:05:32] Speaker 8: a You got it. You know what I'm saying? And
[1:05:35] Speaker 8: from there, it was like one year I was on
[1:05:37] Speaker 8: the bench, and then the next year it was the bench,
[1:05:40] Speaker 8: and then after.
[1:05:40] Speaker 1: That, that's just what I was. Dang, the wizard's curse.
[1:05:44] Speaker 7: I got tired.
[1:05:45] Speaker 1: No, that's the wizard's curse right there. I just thought
[1:05:46] Speaker 1: about that.
[1:05:47] Speaker 3: Nah, the broke jaw... Antoine Jamison.
[1:05:50] Speaker 7: Antoine Jamison broke my jaw.
[1:05:51] Speaker 1: The Wizards.
[1:05:52] Speaker 3: And then the coach. Who's the coach?
[1:05:54] Speaker 1: Eddie Jordan.
[1:05:54] Speaker 3: Wizards.
[1:05:57] Speaker 1: God.
[1:05:57] Speaker 3: Yeah. Damn. Oh, shit.
[1:06:02] Speaker 8: Never thought of that. Never thought of that. Yeah, that's
[1:06:06] Speaker 8: a lot of Wizards energy, man. I should have been on.
[1:06:09] Speaker 3: That damn documentary.
[1:06:11] Speaker 7: A lot of energy.
[1:06:13] Speaker 8: But to your question, bro, I never had a chance
[1:06:17] Speaker 8: to really– map my career out how I thought.
[1:06:20] Speaker 4: It should have went. You know what I'm saying? Never
[1:06:23] Speaker 4: had an opportunity. You thrived in that role that they
[1:06:27] Speaker 4: put you in, right? You thrived in that six-man role,
[1:06:30] Speaker 4: and to your credit, you didn't know it was a thing.
[1:06:32] Speaker 4: You just like, I'm a hooper, right? Whatever comes with it,
[1:06:36] Speaker 4: I'm a hooper, right? So whatever comes with it, I'm
[1:06:37] Speaker 4: a hooper. We all watched you and was around like, man,
[1:06:43] Speaker 4: no bench player, man.
[1:06:44] Speaker 3: Do the starter, right?
[1:06:46] Speaker 4: But they needed someone in that role, right? when things
[1:06:49] Speaker 4: weren't going well as a starter, they needed a bucket,
[1:06:52] Speaker 4: they needed this, they knew what.
[1:06:54] Speaker 8: They had in their back pocket, right?
[1:06:56] Speaker 3: I did it too well.
[1:06:56] Speaker 1: You did it.
[1:06:58] Speaker 8: Too well because they like, well, we can just keep
[1:07:00] Speaker 8: him there, bring in another guard to start, and now
[1:07:03] Speaker 8: we got a strong bench, and now we got a
[1:07:04] Speaker 8: strong starter.
[1:07:06] Speaker 4: If the starter get hurt, we know we can start
[1:07:08] Speaker 4: him for a few games.
[1:07:09] Speaker 1: We ain't losing nothing.
[1:07:10] Speaker 7: It ain't going to lie.
[1:07:12] Speaker 3: As much shit as people like to give Doc Rivers,
[1:07:14] Speaker 3: he's the only coach.
[1:07:15] Speaker 7: In my career besides....
[1:07:18] Speaker 8: The other guy that coached me early in my career,
[1:07:20] Speaker 8: and I ain't talking about Mo' Cheeks. I got love
[1:07:22] Speaker 8: for Mo' Cheeks, if y'all look it up. It was
[1:07:24] Speaker 8: Doug Collins. Me and Doug, we ain't get along. They
[1:07:28] Speaker 8: the only two coaches that started me, that took a
[1:07:30] Speaker 8: chance and was like, we feel like you can play
[1:07:32] Speaker 8: start a minute and start four.
[1:07:37] Speaker 3: It was the business of basketball that kind of got
[1:07:39] Speaker 3: you fucked over.
[1:07:40] Speaker 7: The business fucked me for sure.
[1:07:42] Speaker 1: Because it's this.
[1:07:44] Speaker 3: It's you, Ginobili. Right? It's the great six men that
[1:07:49] Speaker 3: are better than someone that started. So if I start you,
[1:07:55] Speaker 3: you're going to average 20. If I bring you off
[1:07:58] Speaker 3: the bench, you're going to average 20. The only thing
[1:08:01] Speaker 3: that changes with those 20 is a tag.
[1:08:04] Speaker 1: You start.
[1:08:06] Speaker 1: You got to get paid starter minutes.
[1:08:07] Speaker 3: That's $ 80 million. Coming off the bench as a sixth man,
[1:08:10] Speaker 3: there's a cap off because all these other sixth men,
[1:08:13] Speaker 3: you got to get paid this. So when you start
[1:08:16] Speaker 3: seeing players that's like, oh, they're really starters and they're
[1:08:20] Speaker 3: still coming off the bench, it's because they're trying to
[1:08:23] Speaker 3: hold the value of them down.
[1:08:25] Speaker 1: So then you became very cheap. for a guy who
[1:08:28] Speaker 1: was averaging 20.
[1:08:29] Speaker 3: For what I was doing, yeah. Yeah, so it's like,
[1:08:31] Speaker 3: and that's usually what ends up happening to very good
[1:08:34] Speaker 3: six men.
[1:08:35] Speaker 1: And he be like, yo, why hasn't he? It's the money.
[1:08:37] Speaker 3: They're like, we want the 20 points, but we don't
[1:08:41] Speaker 3: want to pay him. And he adds to this cap.
[1:08:45] Speaker 3: That's another 30, 40 million a year. I'd rather give
[1:08:47] Speaker 3: him like 89.
[1:08:49] Speaker 8: And by the time that it was, you know, everybody
[1:08:52] Speaker 8: at that time was campaigning for me to get paid.
[1:08:54] Speaker 7: I remember all my peers was like, He got to
[1:08:57] Speaker 7: get paid.
[1:08:58] Speaker 8: But by the time that came around for me, man,
[1:09:02] Speaker 8: I was so concerned with being moved.
[1:09:05] Speaker 7: People don't realize I played on three teams in six months. Damn.
[1:09:09] Speaker 8: I played on three teams in six months. People don't
[1:09:12] Speaker 8: realize that I was with the Lakers. I got traded
[1:09:14] Speaker 8: to Houston midseason, traded back to L.A. to the Clippers
[1:09:19] Speaker 8: over the summer. So that's in a six month span,
[1:09:22] Speaker 8: I'm in three different jerseys. I'm fighting for my career.
[1:09:26] Speaker 8: So by the time, when it was time for me
[1:09:28] Speaker 8: to get paid, I'm like, bro, I just want to
[1:09:30] Speaker 8: be settled.
[1:09:31] Speaker 7: You dig what I'm saying? So what'd I do?
[1:09:34] Speaker 8: I signed a comfortable deal to stay in LA with
[1:09:37] Speaker 8: the Clippers because I finally found a home where I
[1:09:40] Speaker 8: was comfortable with the organization, comfortable with my teammates.
[1:09:43] Speaker 7: I'm at the back end of my career.
[1:09:46] Speaker 8: I didn't go play the free agent game at all
[1:09:49] Speaker 8: because I was so scared of it not going my way.
[1:09:52] Speaker 8: And the couple teams that was willing to pay me,
[1:09:54] Speaker 8: I was like, I don't want to go there. I
[1:09:56] Speaker 8: don't want to go there. And I'm comfortable here. So
[1:09:58] Speaker 8: I missed the boat all the way around.
[1:10:00] Speaker 7: It was just time. And time was never on my
[1:10:02] Speaker 7: side in my career.
[1:10:03] Speaker 2: So speaking of time, let's take it back to the
[1:10:05] Speaker 2: beginning of your career. 17 years old, Donald's All-American. You
[1:10:09] Speaker 2: decided to go to the league, get drafted in the
[1:10:10] Speaker 2: second round to the Sixers, Allen Iverson Sixers.
[1:10:13] Speaker 1: What was that?
[1:10:14] Speaker 2: Experience like for you going from high school to being
[1:10:17] Speaker 2: a 17-year-old in a locker room with Allen Iverson and
[1:10:19] Speaker 2: other vets.
[1:10:20] Speaker 1: Grown-ass men, if you will.
[1:10:21] Speaker 8: Man, it was incredible because them guys could have made
[1:10:25] Speaker 8: that shit so hard for me, man. They could have
[1:10:28] Speaker 8: made that route so difficult for me, but they knew
[1:10:30] Speaker 8: I was a kid, and they protected me like Big
[1:10:34] Speaker 8: Brother should.
[1:10:35] Speaker 7: And not just A.I. I had Doug Overton.
[1:10:39] Speaker 3: I had C.
[1:10:40] Speaker 1: Will.
[1:10:41] Speaker 8: Stephen Hunter, man. I had Willie Green. I had Kevin Ali.
[1:10:46] Speaker 8: I had Tony Batiste. I had so many OGs around
[1:10:51] Speaker 8: me at that time. I had real OGs. And as
[1:10:53] Speaker 8: I say these names, y'all think about their personalities. I
[1:10:57] Speaker 8: had real OGs that took good care of me, man.
[1:11:00] Speaker 8: And it was a healthy competition. I would battle Willie
[1:11:04] Speaker 8: Green every day in practice. but he would still embrace me.
[1:11:09] Speaker 8: I would battle KO, still take me to chapel with him.
[1:11:12] Speaker 8: I battle AI, still take me under his wing.
[1:11:15] Speaker 7: You know what I'm saying? Like they brought me along
[1:11:18] Speaker 7: as the little homie.
[1:11:19] Speaker 8: So I couldn't, even though I was the second round
[1:11:22] Speaker 8: pick and it didn't go exactly how I wanted it
[1:11:25] Speaker 8: to go, I thought I was going to be a
[1:11:26] Speaker 8: late first rounder, but I wasn't in shape in my
[1:11:28] Speaker 8: pre-draft workout. So I ended up sliding to the second round,
[1:11:32] Speaker 8: but I couldn't imagine being on a different team than
[1:11:34] Speaker 8: I was coming into the league.
[1:11:38] Speaker 3: See, that'd be my problem. He wasn't in shape for pre-draft.
[1:11:47] Speaker 3: If I'm evaluating talent, I'm evaluating the talent. You being
[1:11:52] Speaker 3: in shape in June, but the seasons in October, November
[1:11:59] Speaker 3: has no impact.
[1:12:01] Speaker 8: Like, You know what I mean? But I also was
[1:12:06] Speaker 8: in a draft class of heavyweights. Chris Paul, Darren Williams. Like,
[1:12:11] Speaker 8: I was in a draft class with... Them guys, you
[1:12:15] Speaker 8: know what I'm saying? And so, yeah, I was good,
[1:12:17] Speaker 8: and I was Nate Smith. I was McDonald's, but they
[1:12:20] Speaker 8: was doing their thing at a college level. So that
[1:12:22] Speaker 8: draft class kind of put me in a trick bag,
[1:12:25] Speaker 8: and that's where it put me. I was supposed to go.
[1:12:29] Speaker 8: Miami had promised me at 27 that they were going
[1:12:31] Speaker 8: to take me if I was still on the board.
[1:12:33] Speaker 8: But at that time, Wayne Simeon was still on the board.
[1:12:35] Speaker 8: Y'all remember Wayne Simeon at Kansas? National player of the year.
[1:12:38] Speaker 8: He was the national player of the year at Kansas
[1:12:41] Speaker 8: that year. And he was still on the board and
[1:12:43] Speaker 8: they ended up taking him. Then after that, I didn't
[1:12:46] Speaker 8: work out for anybody past Miami. The Atlanta Hawks had
[1:12:51] Speaker 8: the first pick of the second round. And they said,
[1:12:53] Speaker 8: hell no, we ain't picking him. Cause they had picked
[1:12:56] Speaker 8: Josh Smith the year before. And they said, we not
[1:12:58] Speaker 8: finna have two hometown kids sitting on our bench, not
[1:13:02] Speaker 8: getting playing time in Atlanta. We not doing that. So
[1:13:05] Speaker 8: Atlanta didn't take me. And the only thing I had
[1:13:08] Speaker 8: on my side was my agent at the time represented
[1:13:10] Speaker 8: Mo Cheeks.
[1:13:12] Speaker 7: And they had the 45th pick.
[1:13:13] Speaker 8: So he was like, yo, if y'all ain't doing nothing
[1:13:15] Speaker 8: with that pick, y'all might want to take a look
[1:13:16] Speaker 8: at this kid. And that's how I ended up getting drafted.
[1:13:20] Speaker 8: Without that, ain't no telling if I would have went
[1:13:22] Speaker 8: undrafted or what.
[1:13:23] Speaker 3: What would have happened?
[1:13:24] Speaker 2: So you talk about that draft, 45th pick, loaded draft class,
[1:13:27] Speaker 2: but you ended your career with more career points than
[1:13:30] Speaker 2: everyone in that draft class except for Chris Paul.
[1:13:32] Speaker 1: So what does that mean to you?
[1:13:33] Speaker 7: That means I'm underpaid.
[1:13:34] Speaker 3: Yeah.
[1:13:36] Speaker 4: But we all knew that.
[1:13:40] Speaker 8: That just means I'm underpaid, but I can't wear that
[1:13:44] Speaker 8: shit on my sleeve.
[1:13:46] Speaker 3: It's over and done with. It went how it went.
[1:13:48] Speaker 7: I had a fucking ball, man.
[1:13:49] Speaker 8: I lived my dream, and I got the respect of
[1:13:52] Speaker 8: my peers that I was a real hooper.
[1:13:54] Speaker 7: That's validation enough for me.
[1:13:55] Speaker 8: Every time I sit down with the likes of these guys, man,
[1:13:59] Speaker 8: and I get my flowers and my game is respected,
[1:14:02] Speaker 8: that's enough for me.
[1:14:04] Speaker 3: I was young when I saw you and Monte play
[1:14:06] Speaker 3: on ESPN.
[1:14:07] Speaker 6: That's fine. When y'all was 17. The high school? That's
[1:14:11] Speaker 6: when I knew him. I've been a fan since then.
[1:14:12] Speaker 4: So was college going, was you going to the league
[1:14:15] Speaker 4: just a foregone conclusion or what?
[1:14:17] Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah.
[1:14:18] Speaker 3: I wasn't going to school. No school was?
[1:14:20] Speaker 7: I never could wrap my mind around a 6 a.m.
[1:14:22] Speaker 3: Workout shit and not have nothing to eat.
[1:14:25] Speaker 4: See, that's the thing, right? I never could wrap my
[1:14:28] Speaker 4: mind around that. It wasn't every school, though. That's the thing.
[1:14:30] Speaker 4: So repeat this, right?
[1:14:32] Speaker 3: Go ahead.
[1:14:33] Speaker 4: I had two schools, because I didn't have no grades
[1:14:34] Speaker 4: and shit coming out, right? I had two schools that
[1:14:37] Speaker 4: was interesting to me. Temple and Cincinnati.
[1:14:39] Speaker 1: Yeah. Temple did that shit. Cincinnati didn't.
[1:14:43] Speaker 9: Yeah.
[1:14:44] Speaker 3: See, I didn't want to take the chance.
[1:14:47] Speaker 1: He said that.
[1:14:47] Speaker 4: He told me that shit in real time, dog.
[1:14:49] Speaker 1: I lost interest in real time. I'm with you. We
[1:14:52] Speaker 1: practiced at this time.
[1:14:53] Speaker 3: My brain went the same.
[1:14:55] Speaker 1: Who played basketball at that time?
[1:14:56] Speaker 3: Yeah.
[1:14:56] Speaker 4: I'm like, nah, I ain't going there. I started playing
[1:14:59] Speaker 4: with my niece.
[1:15:00] Speaker 1: She was a baby.
[1:15:00] Speaker 4: I was like, yeah, this shit ain't going to happen.
[1:15:02] Speaker 4: I don't know what's going to happen, but it won't
[1:15:04] Speaker 4: be Temple.
[1:15:04] Speaker 3: Yeah.
[1:15:05] Speaker 4: So I dig it, but nah. I never could.
[1:15:07] Speaker 7: Wrap my mind around the whole.
[1:15:10] Speaker 1: See, that was my advantage.
[1:15:12] Speaker 7: 6 a.m.
[1:15:13] Speaker 8: Workouts, and Sebastian Telfair kicked the door open for me.
[1:15:17] Speaker 8: I remember being at USA camp out in Colorado, and
[1:15:21] Speaker 8: all of us, you know, me, Monte, C.J. Miles, everybody
[1:15:25] Speaker 8: that ended up going to the league out of high school,
[1:15:27] Speaker 8: we were watching the draft.
[1:15:29] Speaker 7: And I'll never forget Sebastian going 13.
[1:15:32] Speaker 8: And my eyes lit up because at that time, no
[1:15:35] Speaker 8: small guards had went out of high school yet. Everybody
[1:15:37] Speaker 8: else had, was built like men already.
[1:15:40] Speaker 3: 6'4, Deshaun Stevenson, I think, was the first guard.
[1:15:43] Speaker 8: All of them guys were like men. And shit, I'm 6'1,
[1:15:48] Speaker 8: 180 today. So imagine 2004, 2005. You know what I'm saying?
[1:15:53] Speaker 8: And I was like, there's an opening for me. It's
[1:15:57] Speaker 8: a market for me to be able to do this.
[1:15:59] Speaker 8: And from that point on, I was like, I'm going
[1:16:02] Speaker 8: to the league. I don't care how I go. I'm
[1:16:04] Speaker 8: training myself to go league. That's how I looked at it.
[1:16:08] Speaker 2: You were able to carve out a legendary career for yourself,
[1:16:10] Speaker 2: play with some legends. We talked about you getting drafted
[1:16:12] Speaker 2: to six with AI. You were also on the Lakers, though,
[1:16:14] Speaker 2: 2015-16 season, which was Kobe's last season in the league.
[1:16:19] Speaker 1: So what are your memories?
[1:16:20] Speaker 2: Obviously, the team didn't perform that well, but seeing Kobe
[1:16:22] Speaker 2: in his last go, year 20, what are your memories
[1:16:24] Speaker 2: from playing with the Lakers and Kobe in his final season?
[1:16:27] Speaker 7: I just remember feeling like, well, first, I want to
[1:16:31] Speaker 7: say this.
[1:16:31] Speaker 8: 2-4 started that season as Kobe Bryant.
[1:16:37] Speaker 3: Like training camp, he was pushing everybody.
[1:16:40] Speaker 8: He was getting his body ready. He was getting his
[1:16:42] Speaker 8: mind ready. He was making sure we all was on
[1:16:44] Speaker 8: the same page. And then as I remember it, I
[1:16:48] Speaker 8: feel like nine, 10 games in, his body started breaking
[1:16:50] Speaker 8: down and he came to the realization that this was
[1:16:54] Speaker 8: the end. And his mentality shifted. He became a lot lighthearted.
[1:16:59] Speaker 8: He became more easygoing. And I knew at that point
[1:17:02] Speaker 8: he had kind of took his foot off the gas.
[1:17:04] Speaker 8: He knew his body wasn't going to hold up to
[1:17:06] Speaker 8: the standard that he had set for himself. And I
[1:17:09] Speaker 8: was on the team with Julius Randall, D'Angelo Russell. Nick
[1:17:15] Speaker 8: was on that team. Larry Nance was on that team.
[1:17:19] Speaker 8: They had a lot of young guys that... They had
[1:17:22] Speaker 8: planned to develop, but as y'all know, the Lakers don't
[1:17:24] Speaker 8: develop talent.
[1:17:25] Speaker 7: That ain't really what they into.
[1:17:27] Speaker 8: And I remember them sitting us down and telling us, hey,
[1:17:32] Speaker 8: the rest of this season is going to be about 2-4.
[1:17:34] Speaker 8: So we're going to celebrate him. We're going to go
[1:17:37] Speaker 8: out and compete, but it's about him. And from that
[1:17:41] Speaker 8: point on, it turned into the farewell tour. And we
[1:17:45] Speaker 8: started getting the pulse of the nights that he was
[1:17:47] Speaker 8: going to play, the nights when he wasn't going to play. Because,
[1:17:50] Speaker 8: you know, if you go into a city twice, he
[1:17:52] Speaker 8: probably wasn't going to play in the first one. He
[1:17:54] Speaker 8: was going to play in the second one. All the
[1:17:56] Speaker 8: Eastern Conference games that we only go once, he probably
[1:17:59] Speaker 8: going to play in a lot of these. And so
[1:18:02] Speaker 8: our focus kind of shifted. And the crazy thing about
[1:18:05] Speaker 8: it was Byron Scott was still whooping our ass in practice, though.
[1:18:09] Speaker 8: He was still whooping our ass in practice.
[1:18:11] Speaker 7: But it was like, be Scott.
[1:18:13] Speaker 3: Yeah.
[1:18:14] Speaker 7: We in shape, bro. We 40 games in. I remember
[1:18:17] Speaker 7: having a meltdown.
[1:18:18] Speaker 8: Man, listen, 40, 50 games in, we doing a damn
[1:18:22] Speaker 8: conditioning drill.
[1:18:24] Speaker 7: I said, B. Scott, nah, dog.
[1:18:25] Speaker 1: Y'all doing easy around 40 games in, dog?
[1:18:27] Speaker 7: We are still doing a conditioning drill.
[1:18:30] Speaker 8: So I have a meltdown. I said, bro, we ain't
[1:18:33] Speaker 8: in shape now. We ain't never going to be in shape.
[1:18:36] Speaker 8: He called me in the office.
[1:18:37] Speaker 3: I said, B.
[1:18:37] Speaker 7: Scott, what's this about? I said, what is this about?
[1:18:40] Speaker 8: He said, that's all I know. I come from Pat Riley.
[1:18:43] Speaker 8: That's all I know. This is my coaching staff.
[1:18:47] Speaker 1: You should know something else.
[1:18:48] Speaker 7: Yeah, but yeah. But I just remember, like, Kobe, he
[1:18:53] Speaker 7: wouldn't practice.
[1:18:55] Speaker 3: He really wouldn't be around.
[1:18:57] Speaker 8: Like, we had a thing where in the locker room,
[1:19:01] Speaker 8: Cause y'all know he had his own separate locker room.
[1:19:03] Speaker 8: He had his own room for him to stretch and
[1:19:05] Speaker 8: he had his own staff of trainers and whatnot. And
[1:19:09] Speaker 8: the only way we knew what games that he would play,
[1:19:11] Speaker 8: they would come in and take all his stuff out
[1:19:13] Speaker 8: of his locker. So that's how we knew that he
[1:19:16] Speaker 8: would play on certain nights. They would come clean his
[1:19:19] Speaker 8: locker out and we'd be like Elvis in the building.
[1:19:22] Speaker 3: That was our joke.
[1:19:23] Speaker 7: Elvis in the building, he gonna play tonight.
[1:19:25] Speaker 10: So we used to come out the locker room out
[1:19:27] Speaker 10: this door Kobe come out the door. Then one of
[1:19:31] Speaker 10: the funniest things that he used to do, mind you,
[1:19:33] Speaker 10: didn't practice, didn't come to practice, but during preparation for games, we'd.
[1:19:40] Speaker 8: Be going over game plan. He'd just be sitting there
[1:19:42] Speaker 8: getting dressed. He'd be like, nah, we ain't doing that. Like, nigga,
[1:19:45] Speaker 8: we've been working on this shit all week. What are
[1:19:48] Speaker 8: you talking about? We've been working on this shit all week.
[1:19:52] Speaker 8: And he's just putting his jersey on.
[1:19:54] Speaker 1: Nah.
[1:19:55] Speaker 3: We ain't doing that. And because him and B.
[1:19:56] Speaker 7: Scott played together, B. Scott was like, we ain't doing that.
[1:20:00] Speaker 7: We ain't doing that.
[1:20:00] Speaker 1: So Kobe became Pat Riley, so he did.
[1:20:02] Speaker 7: Kobe became Pat Riley, man.
[1:20:05] Speaker 8: But as the season started winding down, man, I realized
[1:20:10] Speaker 8: that was my first time seeing somebody be celebrated and
[1:20:13] Speaker 8: get their flowers. And God rest his soul, I'm glad
[1:20:17] Speaker 8: that he was able to have that experience going out
[1:20:21] Speaker 8: of the door. Going out of the door, seeing how
[1:20:24] Speaker 8: everything played out, I was grateful to be a part
[1:20:27] Speaker 8: of it, and I was grateful to.
[1:20:29] Speaker 3: Experience that and play with Cole. It was crazy when you,
[1:20:33] Speaker 3: especially with him, if you've seen him when he was younger,
[1:20:35] Speaker 3: that mindset, but you got to see him at both stages,
[1:20:39] Speaker 3: the competitor and then like a regular teammate, when he realizes, okay,
[1:20:44] Speaker 3: this ain't it no more.
[1:20:46] Speaker 8: And I wish I was with him earlier in my
[1:20:48] Speaker 8: career because he did so much for me mentally.
[1:20:50] Speaker 7: You know what I'm saying? Just how he was just, man,
[1:20:53] Speaker 7: laser focused, dog.
[1:20:55] Speaker 8: Laser focused on attention to detail, things that he wanted
[1:20:59] Speaker 8: to get out of the game and what he wanted
[1:21:00] Speaker 8: to get out of himself and his teammates. He was
[1:21:04] Speaker 8: down to challenge anybody. I wish I was just with
[1:21:06] Speaker 8: him when he won at the very end.
[1:21:08] Speaker 1: No, that's the one you wanted to see. I mean,
[1:21:11] Speaker 1: as a Hooper.
[1:21:11] Speaker 3: For peace. No, for the Hooper you wanted to see.
[1:21:14] Speaker 3: But if you grew up on him and the stories
[1:21:16] Speaker 3: you hear, you know, I used to talk to Luke
[1:21:19] Speaker 3: Walton the whole time. Yeah.
[1:21:20] Speaker 1: You know, after every game, I used to call, hey,
[1:21:22] Speaker 1: what was this? What was that?
[1:21:23] Speaker 3: Why did he do this? And then when Quran came,
[1:21:27] Speaker 3: that's all I want to hear. I don't want to
[1:21:28] Speaker 3: hear about nothing else. Right?
[1:21:30] Speaker 1: So towards the end, you seem the human.
[1:21:33] Speaker 7: Yeah, that's a fact.
[1:21:35] Speaker 1: I appreciated the human more.
[1:21:36] Speaker 7: That's a fact.
[1:21:37] Speaker 3: Because I'm not playing no more. So I wanted to see,
[1:21:40] Speaker 3: who are you guys after? So watching them coach girls basketball.
[1:21:45] Speaker 3: When you say, all right, Kobe's going to coach girls basketball,
[1:21:47] Speaker 3: you'd be.
[1:21:47] Speaker 1: Like, oh, hell no. But then a whole different person.
[1:21:51] Speaker 3: Was coaching them.
[1:21:52] Speaker 7: Different temperament.
[1:21:53] Speaker 1: Different, like it was patient.
[1:21:57] Speaker 3: Patient, caring, don't worry. But like, wait.
[1:22:02] Speaker 8: And let me say this while I'm on y'all platform, man.
[1:22:05] Speaker 8: His very last game against the Utah Jazz, I watched
[1:22:08] Speaker 8: that man. treat every single person with the utmost respect
[1:22:14] Speaker 8: and dignity you can imagine. From the security to the
[1:22:19] Speaker 8: people that clean the arena, that man sat there and literal,
[1:22:24] Speaker 8: no bullshit, it literally was shit stacked to the ceiling.
[1:22:29] Speaker 8: And I watched him sit there and sign every single
[1:22:32] Speaker 8: piece of anything people wanted signed for him. And that
[1:22:36] Speaker 8: was like the most humbling human shit I had seen
[1:22:39] Speaker 8: from him the two and a half years that I
[1:22:42] Speaker 8: was with him.
[1:22:43] Speaker 7: I thought that was like, I thought that was incredible.
[1:22:46] Speaker 7: I watched that man.
[1:22:48] Speaker 8: Anybody that wanted to come in there and speak to
[1:22:50] Speaker 8: him and Show him his love. He didn't shoot nobody away.
[1:22:54] Speaker 8: He let everybody come in there and he showed them
[1:22:57] Speaker 8: all respect. And I'm sure those are memories that all
[1:22:59] Speaker 8: of those people carry with them to this day.
[1:23:01] Speaker 4: Yeah, because up to that point, he didn't allow it. Just,
[1:23:06] Speaker 4: like you said, he was so locked in, he was
[1:23:09] Speaker 4: off limits. So, he understood that in that moment, like
[1:23:14] Speaker 4: you said, he was the human then, so he understood
[1:23:16] Speaker 4: that he had took that cape off and he was.
[1:23:18] Speaker 1: Like, like, Damn.
[1:23:21] Speaker 7: Yeah, he took his mask off.
[1:23:22] Speaker 1: He took his mask off and his cape off.
[1:23:23] Speaker 4: And it's like, so nah, that's dope shit to hear, bro.
[1:23:27] Speaker 3: Yeah, when King take his cape off, you got to
[1:23:29] Speaker 3: get him at home. When he's around his wife and kids, yeah,
[1:23:32] Speaker 3: he got his slippers on.
[1:23:33] Speaker 7: Yeah, he got his slippers on.
[1:23:35] Speaker 3: He's like, hey, you want something to drink? Want some food?
[1:23:37] Speaker 3: Going in, going in. Here's the thing. He's like, what?
[1:23:40] Speaker 3: My fucking King in this? My fucking King in Martin
[1:23:44] Speaker 3: is this. Hey, I was about to catch him on the...
[1:23:46] Speaker 3: So you get you get three shots at my house
[1:23:48] Speaker 3: third time you.
[1:23:49] Speaker 7: Have my crib don't ask me for shit So the patient.
[1:23:50] Speaker 3: Part man when you are.
[1:24:10] Speaker 4: Locked in and you built on some and you have
[1:24:12] Speaker 4: this certain temperament, like, and people, like he said, Kobe
[1:24:16] Speaker 4: coaching girls basketball, like, same shit with me. I'm coaching
[1:24:19] Speaker 4: my daughter and them team, bro, like, fourth and fifth grade.
[1:24:21] Speaker 1: Girls, dog.
[1:24:22] Speaker 7: Fourth and fifth grade?
[1:24:23] Speaker 3: Girls. Man, you patient.
[1:24:25] Speaker 4: And then for me, for me to be doing it? Oh, bro,
[1:24:28] Speaker 4: everybody like, yo, oh, boy, hey, man, I'm so proud
[1:24:31] Speaker 4: of you, dog. You love it, though.
[1:24:33] Speaker 3: Yeah, because it's... You see them get better by the day.
[1:24:38] Speaker 4: That, and it shows me a lot about me, right?
[1:24:41] Speaker 4: So that showed Kobe a lot about himself as well, right?
[1:24:44] Speaker 4: Being able to be this locked in animal that he's
[1:24:49] Speaker 4: been and then to be able to have that emotion,
[1:24:52] Speaker 4: that sensitive side, to be able to do that for
[1:24:54] Speaker 4: little girls and show that I'm human, right? So everybody
[1:25:00] Speaker 4: expected me, like I said, people would say, like, I
[1:25:01] Speaker 4: don't fucking walk around hanging on the chandeliers at home.
[1:25:04] Speaker 1: Yeah, right.
[1:25:06] Speaker 4: Kicking the dog, hanging on the chandelier, like, no, like, I'm...
[1:25:09] Speaker 4: If we had to vote, that's what we would have
[1:25:11] Speaker 4: voted for.
[1:25:11] Speaker 3: I would not vote for that. I would not vote
[1:25:14] Speaker 3: for that. Does he barbecue or kick puppies?
[1:25:17] Speaker 1: Going on three.
[1:25:18] Speaker 3: Kick puppies. I'm on my third.
[1:25:19] Speaker 8: I think you're a lover of all that. I started
[1:25:21] Speaker 8: coaching my kids. I got my kids in seventh grade.
[1:25:25] Speaker 1: Yeah.
[1:25:26] Speaker 7: And now they're ninth graders, and I've been able to
[1:25:28] Speaker 7: grow with them.
[1:25:29] Speaker 8: But, man, it's nothing more fulfilling than coaching girls basketball
[1:25:33] Speaker 8: and seeing them get better on the daily, and.
[1:25:35] Speaker 3: You grow with them, man. I love that shit.
[1:25:37] Speaker 1: Because there's no ego with it.
[1:25:38] Speaker 3: It's just happiness and joy. Yeah.
[1:25:41] Speaker 1: Where we started at and where we finished at.
[1:25:43] Speaker 8: With women, you got to start from the ground level because–
[1:25:48] Speaker 8: It ain't no 6'8 girl with athleticism in the sixth
[1:25:51] Speaker 8: grade that you can cut corners with that. Like if
[1:25:55] Speaker 8: you already dunking the basketball for two years, you're going
[1:25:57] Speaker 8: to tell them, hey, just make layups.
[1:25:59] Speaker 7: You ain't really going to develop them.
[1:26:01] Speaker 8: With the young women, you got to start from ground level.
[1:26:04] Speaker 8: And they teach you a lot about yourself as a
[1:26:06] Speaker 8: coach and as a player because you got to really
[1:26:09] Speaker 8: lock in on the fundamentals and then build from there.
[1:26:11] Speaker 8: On the boys' side, it's different because you might have two,
[1:26:14] Speaker 8: three athletes that can go get it.
[1:26:16] Speaker 7: And you're just going to tailor-make your team for them.
[1:26:18] Speaker 4: Girl, that motherfucker doing fucking dance.
[1:26:22] Speaker 1: TikTok.
[1:26:23] Speaker 3: TikTok. Hey, man, listen.
[1:26:25] Speaker 4: Hey, I appreciate y'all, but just give me an hour.
[1:26:28] Speaker 3: Yeah. Right?
[1:26:29] Speaker 4: Just give me an hour with no routines. That's all
[1:26:32] Speaker 4: I ask for, right? Guess where we at? Cartwheel stage?
[1:26:35] Speaker 4: Are you in the cartwheel stage yet?
[1:26:36] Speaker 1: Who that?
[1:26:37] Speaker 3: Cartwheel.
[1:26:37] Speaker 7: Oh, he got the baby.
[1:26:39] Speaker 3: Oh, yeah. Cartwheel. I'm in the middle of the month
[1:26:41] Speaker 3: for a practice.
[1:26:42] Speaker 7: Yeah. They got to get that energy out.
[1:26:46] Speaker 3: They're like, huh? I can get it at you.
[1:26:49] Speaker 7: On the line.
[1:26:50] Speaker 1: They ain't listening.
[1:26:51] Speaker 3: They over there with that TikTok shit.
[1:26:54] Speaker 4: They over there trying to make.
[1:26:57] Speaker 3: Yes, man. Girls, man, they listen.
[1:27:01] Speaker 1: They different. Trust me.
[1:27:03] Speaker 7: Nah, they different.
[1:27:05] Speaker 1: You got to trick them.
[1:27:06] Speaker 3: Oh, this practice is for TikTok. TikTok.
[1:27:08] Speaker 4: Yeah, so a couple days, so I'm here and I
[1:27:11] Speaker 4: can go to practice a couple days, right? So I
[1:27:13] Speaker 4: had a young lady that worked at a school, she
[1:27:14] Speaker 4: helped me with practice, she conducted practice a couple days.
[1:27:17] Speaker 4: Damn that motherfucker going ham. So of course my daughter
[1:27:20] Speaker 4: come home and tell, wasn't nobody listening today? I said,
[1:27:23] Speaker 4: were you listening? She said, sometimes. Like she telling me,
[1:27:26] Speaker 4: so next day I come to practice, the first thing,
[1:27:29] Speaker 4: I bring them in, I was practicing yesterday, and y'all
[1:27:31] Speaker 4: do this.
[1:27:33] Speaker 1: They know what's next.
[1:27:34] Speaker 3: On the line. Get on the line. Oh, yeah. That's
[1:27:36] Speaker 3: on the line.
[1:27:37] Speaker 1: Man, my girls, we got to rule.
[1:27:43] Speaker 7: No TikTok.
[1:27:44] Speaker 8: We win the tournament, the coaches will do the TikTok
[1:27:47] Speaker 8: with y'all. And they love that because they know Coach
[1:27:49] Speaker 8: Lou going to turn their page up. Lock in, win
[1:27:53] Speaker 8: the tournament. I do the dances with y'all. But until then,
[1:27:56] Speaker 8: keep that shit to a minimum, y'all. Keep it to
[1:27:58] Speaker 8: a minimum. But I love the fact that we all
[1:28:01] Speaker 8: getting into the game with our kids and our.
[1:28:02] Speaker 3: Girls, man.
[1:28:03] Speaker 8: And like I said, you see them daily deposits of going, bro.
[1:28:07] Speaker 8: But I love coaching them young girls.
[1:28:09] Speaker 1: Oh, no, it's dope.
[1:28:10] Speaker 2: So I wanted to hit you on one more thing
[1:28:11] Speaker 2: before we let you go. You mentioned you played on, what,
[1:28:14] Speaker 2: three teams in six months, right? Ended up with the Clippers,
[1:28:16] Speaker 2: signed a long-term deal with them.
[1:28:18] Speaker 1: But I want to show you a picture. Let's go back.
[1:28:21] Speaker 1: The year is 2020.
[1:28:22] Speaker 2: Let's take a look at this photo that we have.
[1:28:25] Speaker 3: A little case you would never guess.
[1:28:28] Speaker 7: You know what? I didn't even realize he put that
[1:28:30] Speaker 7: on there.
[1:28:30] Speaker 3: Wait, huh?
[1:28:31] Speaker 1: That's you and Jack Harlow.
[1:28:33] Speaker 3: Yeah.
[1:28:34] Speaker 1: Led you to get in quarantine when you rejoined the
[1:28:36] Speaker 1: Clippers in the bubble.
[1:28:37] Speaker 3: Yep.
[1:28:37] Speaker 2: Made you the talk of the sports world at that moment,
[1:28:40] Speaker 2: did you know when you took this picture with Jack
[1:28:42] Speaker 2: Harlow that it would become such a big deal?
[1:28:43] Speaker 7: Absolutely not.
[1:28:45] Speaker 8: Because I thought we did what we were supposed to do.
[1:28:50] Speaker 8: You know, since this is like, no, because I got
[1:28:54] Speaker 8: to get this across.
[1:28:55] Speaker 3: That's all we did what we were supposed to do.
[1:28:57] Speaker 8: Yeah, look, we got our mask on and shit.
[1:29:00] Speaker 7: I thought we did it how we were supposed to
[1:29:02] Speaker 7: do it, man, but... I want to put this to bed.
[1:29:05] Speaker 8: I didn't sneak out of the bubble to go to
[1:29:07] Speaker 8: Magic City.
[1:29:10] Speaker 7: That's not what happened.
[1:29:11] Speaker 8: They excused me from the bubble to go to a funeral.
[1:29:16] Speaker 3: Doctor is traveling with me.
[1:29:19] Speaker 8: The funeral home was a block away from Magic. I've
[1:29:21] Speaker 8: been staying in a hotel, eating hotel room service food.
[1:29:26] Speaker 8: Magic got good food.
[1:29:27] Speaker 7: Magic got good food. This is my hometown.
[1:29:29] Speaker 8: And if you know ATL, we eat in our strip clubs.
[1:29:32] Speaker 8: That's where you can find the best food. Cheetah, Magic,
[1:29:35] Speaker 8: so on and so forth. Poppin' Magic. What they won't
[1:29:40] Speaker 8: tell you is it was eight people in there. All
[1:29:42] Speaker 8: of them was with us. So let me give you
[1:29:45] Speaker 8: a backstory. I met Jack in 2017. Young white kid
[1:29:48] Speaker 8: came in the studio. He was with one of my
[1:29:50] Speaker 8: business partners. And we playing music.
[1:29:53] Speaker 1: And.
[1:29:54] Speaker 7: He's like, man, that's.
[1:29:54] Speaker 3: Fire, man.
[1:29:55] Speaker 7: Your music is good and this and that.
[1:29:56] Speaker 8: I'm like, that's what's up. And I asked my partner,
[1:29:58] Speaker 8: who the white boy? He said, oh, it's named Jack, man.
[1:30:01] Speaker 8: He's from Kentucky.
[1:30:02] Speaker 7: He a rapper.
[1:30:03] Speaker 1: I said, okay.
[1:30:05] Speaker 8: Jack and his brother was in the studio with us
[1:30:07] Speaker 8: and they just vibing, two regular white boys.
[1:30:10] Speaker 7: Having fun. I take them to the club. Jack don't drink.
[1:30:14] Speaker 8: I got them shit face hammered that night.
[1:30:18] Speaker 7: Shit face hammered that night. Two, three years later, He
[1:30:22] Speaker 7: got the number one song in the country. Walk in. Yo,
[1:30:27] Speaker 7: I hadn't seen him. I've been in the bubble. I
[1:30:28] Speaker 7: ain't seen him.
[1:30:29] Speaker 8: What's popping is going crazy, but I hadn't seen him
[1:30:31] Speaker 8: in two, three years. I said, man, I'm proud of you, bro.
[1:30:36] Speaker 7: Let's take a shot. All right, cool. Took a shot.
[1:30:41] Speaker 8: Jack said, yo, you think it'd be cool if we
[1:30:43] Speaker 8: take a picture? Because he knew I was out of
[1:30:45] Speaker 8: the bubble. I said, yeah, I got my mask on.
[1:30:48] Speaker 8: You got your mask on. I don't see where it'd
[1:30:50] Speaker 8: be a problem. So that's where the picture came in.
[1:30:53] Speaker 8: If I'd have known that the picture was going to
[1:30:55] Speaker 8: do what it did, I'd have said no.
[1:30:56] Speaker 7: But I thought everything was in order.
[1:31:01] Speaker 8: Where we fucked up was Jack tried to cover for
[1:31:04] Speaker 8: me and he lied. Because he posted the picture and
[1:31:08] Speaker 8: then Mind you, he has the number one song, so
[1:31:11] Speaker 8: his engagement is out the roof, everybody on his page.
[1:31:14] Speaker 8: So they're like, oh shit, Lou Wilder snuck out of
[1:31:16] Speaker 8: the bubble. So he tried to clean it up for me.
[1:31:19] Speaker 8: He said, nah, y'all chill, that's an old picture. I
[1:31:22] Speaker 8: got the bubble mask on.
[1:31:23] Speaker 1: Y'all are just ahead of the time.
[1:31:27] Speaker 7: I had the bubble mask on.
[1:31:29] Speaker 8: And so another thing people don't realize about that whole
[1:31:32] Speaker 8: thing was by the time it hit the news, I
[1:31:34] Speaker 8: was back in the bubble in quarantine already.
[1:31:38] Speaker 7: I was back already. So L Frank called me. L
[1:31:42] Speaker 7: calls me. He says, hey, who the fuck is Jack Harlow?
[1:31:49] Speaker 7: I said, that's my homeboy.
[1:31:50] Speaker 3: He a rapper.
[1:31:50] Speaker 7: What's the problem? I'll call you back. Hung up on me.
[1:31:53] Speaker 7: What the fuck was that about? My agent called me.
[1:31:56] Speaker 3: We got a problem.
[1:31:58] Speaker 7: What's up?
[1:32:00] Speaker 8: Man, it's a story taking off that you snuck out
[1:32:02] Speaker 8: of the bubble and you was going crazy hanging out
[1:32:05] Speaker 8: at the strip club.
[1:32:06] Speaker 7: I said, no, I went to eat, but I left.
[1:32:09] Speaker 8: This was 5 o'clock in the afternoon.
[1:32:11] Speaker 7: Well, the story spiraled out of control. They said you
[1:32:12] Speaker 7: was partying in Magic City all night. I said, dog,
[1:32:15] Speaker 7: I'm back in the bubble already. What are we talking?
[1:32:17] Speaker 8: I'm back in the bubble already. Get off the phone
[1:32:21] Speaker 8: with my agent. He called me back about an hour later.
[1:32:24] Speaker 8: He said, man, look, this was a Friday that this happened.
[1:32:29] Speaker 8: I was in Magic Thursday evening. Back in the bubble
[1:32:34] Speaker 8: on Friday, he said, Monday, when media cranks back.
[1:32:37] Speaker 7: Up, we're going to have a shit storm. I'm like,
[1:32:42] Speaker 7: what's the big deal? Like, what happened?
[1:32:44] Speaker 8: And Monday, sure enough, I was lemon pepper loot from
[1:32:47] Speaker 8: then on out. I was Livin' Pepper Lou from then
[1:32:50] Speaker 8: on out.
[1:32:50] Speaker 3: There is some positives, though.
[1:32:52] Speaker 1: That's my favorite nickname, Livin' Pepper Lou.
[1:32:54] Speaker 7: Yeah, man, and you was talking shit. You was giving
[1:32:57] Speaker 7: me a hard time, because you do your thing.
[1:32:59] Speaker 1: Comedic tweaks.
[1:33:00] Speaker 3: Comedic tweaks.
[1:33:02] Speaker 1: Helping to lighten the load.
[1:33:04] Speaker 8: At that time, I was taking everything personal. At that time,
[1:33:07] Speaker 8: I was taking everything personal.
[1:33:08] Speaker 1: I didn't know I impacted you like that. I was just.
[1:33:09] Speaker 8: No, it was cool, because to me, I didn't feel
[1:33:13] Speaker 8: like I did anything wrong, and... For somebody that always
[1:33:17] Speaker 8: carried myself in a sense of not trying to be
[1:33:21] Speaker 8: attached to any goofy shit, I didn't like being attached
[1:33:23] Speaker 8: to some goofy shit.
[1:33:25] Speaker 3: So I was just fighting everything. I was into it
[1:33:27] Speaker 3: with Perk on Twitter.
[1:33:28] Speaker 8: I was into it with everybody because I didn't want
[1:33:30] Speaker 8: that type of energy to be attached to me. Now
[1:33:33] Speaker 8: that everything is chilled and calmed down, I've learned to
[1:33:37] Speaker 8: embrace it. And because of that, you know, Lemon Pepper
[1:33:40] Speaker 8: Lou is here to stay. And that shit ain't going nowhere, man.
[1:33:43] Speaker 7: That's a legendary nickname.
[1:33:45] Speaker 1: No, but that's the thing.
[1:33:46] Speaker 9: Hold on, though.
[1:33:47] Speaker 8: The crazy thing is my wings ain't even lemon pepper wings.
[1:33:51] Speaker 8: They barbecue with lemon pepper sprinkles.
[1:33:53] Speaker 3: Ah. Okay. But if you really think about it, right,
[1:33:59] Speaker 3: people like.
[1:34:00] Speaker 4: I didn't not one time think that you fucking snuck out, right?
[1:34:04] Speaker 2: Yeah.
[1:34:04] Speaker 4: People that know, like, the way you hear about it, like,
[1:34:06] Speaker 4: we all around, like, this shit is the most secure
[1:34:09] Speaker 4: place there could fucking possibly be.
[1:34:10] Speaker 7: Yeah, man.
[1:34:11] Speaker 8: Ain't no fucking sneaking nobody in or out.
[1:34:14] Speaker 3: Of this motherfucker. So we all was like... Sneak, fucking
[1:34:18] Speaker 3: sneak out.
[1:34:19] Speaker 1: Like, how the fuck you gonna get back in?
[1:34:21] Speaker 3: Like, how the fuck you gonna get back in? Yeah,
[1:34:23] Speaker 3: that's what I'm talking about. But they didn't get a suitcase. Yeah,
[1:34:25] Speaker 3: that's my thought process.
[1:34:26] Speaker 1: Okay, if he did manage it.
[1:34:28] Speaker 7: Yeah, and think about this.
[1:34:29] Speaker 1: How the fuck he gonna get back in there?
[1:34:30] Speaker 8: I never got fined. I was never suspended. It just
[1:34:34] Speaker 8: took my quarantine from four days to ten days.
[1:34:37] Speaker 3: That was my punishment.
[1:34:39] Speaker 8: So the NBA knew what I was doing. Again, I
[1:34:42] Speaker 8: had a doctor traveling with me. I was getting COVID
[1:34:44] Speaker 8: tested three times a day. Everything that I was doing
[1:34:47] Speaker 8: was documented. But they told me, they like, hey, the media,
[1:34:50] Speaker 8: we're going to throw the book at your ass best
[1:34:52] Speaker 8: we can so nobody else in here can think that
[1:34:55] Speaker 8: that's cool to do.
[1:34:56] Speaker 3: That would be the problem sometimes. The stories, right? They're
[1:35:01] Speaker 3: with you. The NBA is with you traveling. You're there.
[1:35:05] Speaker 3: They done tested you. Everything is good. But they still
[1:35:08] Speaker 3: want to throw the book because of the media.
[1:35:11] Speaker 1: Yeah. If we kill Lou, nobody else will try this bullshit.
[1:35:14] Speaker 7: They did that.
[1:35:15] Speaker 3: I know.
[1:35:15] Speaker 7: Man, they had me on the phone with real federal representation.
[1:35:21] Speaker 1: What?
[1:35:22] Speaker 8: No, asking me questions like, so did you do this?
[1:35:24] Speaker 8: I cut the lady off. I said, ma'am, can I
[1:35:26] Speaker 8: ask you a question? I said, am I in legal
[1:35:30] Speaker 8: trouble for this?
[1:35:31] Speaker 7: Do I need my lawyer on the phone? She said, no.
[1:35:34] Speaker 7: I said, I didn't want to talk to you then.
[1:35:36] Speaker 7: What I'm talking to you for?
[1:35:38] Speaker 8: But at first, I was scared shitless because they really
[1:35:41] Speaker 8: was asking me questions about, well, how long were you there?
[1:35:46] Speaker 8: You said that you had glasses on. In the picture,
[1:35:48] Speaker 8: you didn't have glasses on. Like, I was really on
[1:35:51] Speaker 8: the stand. Really on the stand, bro.
[1:35:54] Speaker 3: Remember I asked somebody about the bubble. I was like,
[1:35:56] Speaker 3: so everyone's tested in the bubble. They was like, yes.
[1:36:00] Speaker 3: I said, so they all got tested. Yes. It's secure.
[1:36:04] Speaker 1: Nobody else can get in. Yes.
[1:36:05] Speaker 7: Yeah.
[1:36:06] Speaker 1: Everyone's cleaning there. There's like, yes.
[1:36:09] Speaker 3: Then why the fuck are they wearing masks and doing
[1:36:11] Speaker 3: this and doing all this on the court? Why is
[1:36:14] Speaker 3: the bench wearing masks? Why?
[1:36:16] Speaker 1: And it was they said this.
[1:36:19] Speaker 3: Optics. Because of America's doing it. we have to participate.
[1:36:25] Speaker 3: So I'm like, this is the cleanest place on earth
[1:36:28] Speaker 3: right now, but y'all.
[1:36:29] Speaker 1: Are pretending for America.
[1:36:32] Speaker 3: The optics. For the rest of the, they said, because
[1:36:34] Speaker 3: what we're doing right now, the rest of the sports
[1:36:37] Speaker 3: have to think.
[1:36:38] Speaker 1: So I'm like. Put the chairs on the bench, motherfucker.
[1:36:40] Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, yeah. I'm like, the chairs on the bench.
[1:36:42] Speaker 3: You go in the game, y'all touching each other, then
[1:36:44] Speaker 3: go on the bench and put the mask on.
[1:36:45] Speaker 1: I'm like.
[1:36:46] Speaker 7: It was insane, bro. And here's another thing. We was
[1:36:50] Speaker 7: in there so long. outside it opened back up. We
[1:36:53] Speaker 7: was the only ones locked down. We was the only
[1:36:56] Speaker 7: ones still locked. Outside opened up.
[1:36:58] Speaker 8: We at Disney hear them on the roller coasters.
[1:37:03] Speaker 3: We can hear it.
[1:37:04] Speaker 8: We sit there sick as hell, mad as fuck. Everybody
[1:37:08] Speaker 8: else having a good time. Back outside living their lives.
[1:37:10] Speaker 8: We still in here.
[1:37:12] Speaker 2: Lou, we appreciate you taking time out of your schedule
[1:37:14] Speaker 2: to pull up to the meeting. We know you've got
[1:37:15] Speaker 2: to take off. Thank you for obliging Mr. B, getting
[1:37:17] Speaker 2: that one-on-one game going.
[1:37:18] Speaker 3: Thank you, Cam. Thanks for coming out. Come on, man. Listen,
[1:37:21] Speaker 3: find you a partner.
[1:37:22] Speaker 1: They can be a pro.
[1:37:24] Speaker 7: That's the only stipulation.
[1:37:26] Speaker 3: As long as you're not an ex-pro, two-on-two, join the league.
[1:37:29] Speaker 7: Say less.
[1:37:31] Speaker 8: Hey, man, we up the street. Any of y'all, y'all
[1:37:33] Speaker 8: more than welcome to come to the lounge. Kmart been through.
[1:37:36] Speaker 8: Gil been through. You owe us one, man. Come to
[1:37:38] Speaker 8: the lounge.
[1:37:39] Speaker 3: I ain't going to lie.
[1:37:40] Speaker 1: Listen, listen.
[1:37:41] Speaker 3: I told you, lady, man, do the little podcast and boom, boom, boom.
[1:37:44] Speaker 1: I ain't going to lie.
[1:37:45] Speaker 3: The shit you turn that shit into, that is a vibe.
[1:37:48] Speaker 1: Well, thank you, baby.
[1:37:49] Speaker 3: Now, that is a vibe. Listen, listen.
[1:37:51] Speaker 1: What?
[1:37:51] Speaker 3: That's the boom, boom room. The boom, boom room? Yeah.
[1:37:54] Speaker 1: Cool over there.
[1:37:55] Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm glad I brought my wife.
[1:37:57] Speaker 1: I'm going to just be honest.
[1:37:58] Speaker 7: I'm glad you brought your wife.
[1:38:00] Speaker 3: When I got there, I was like, oh, man.
[1:38:07] Speaker 2: Make sure you subscribe. Subscribe to the Underground Lounge. They're
[1:38:13] Speaker 2: doing some great stuff. We appreciate you pulling up to
[1:38:16] Speaker 2: the arena, man. Thank you so much.
[1:38:17] Speaker 3: Much love.
[1:38:22] Speaker 2: And the memes were in good spirit and good nature.
[1:38:24] Speaker 2: I was trying to lighten the mood with the memes.
[1:38:27] Speaker 2: I just want to point that out.
[1:38:28] Speaker 3: Man, that shit long gone.
[1:38:29] Speaker 1: They were funny though.
[1:38:30] Speaker 3: They were fun. Oh, shit. Old man got up. And now, Tret,
[1:38:34] Speaker 3: I ain't showing you my ass this time. Show your ass.
[1:38:37] Speaker 8: How long are y'all filming today?
[1:38:39] Speaker 1: Are we still going right now?
[1:38:40] Speaker 3: We're still on. Oh, yeah.
[1:38:43] Speaker 7: Y'all still on?
[1:38:44] Speaker 3: Let me get out of your way.
[1:38:46] Speaker 1: This is at Loggers.
[1:38:47] Speaker 2: This is Gil's Arena. We appreciate you pulling up. Shout
[1:38:52] Speaker 2: out to everybody in the chat watching as well. In
[1:38:54] Speaker 2: the meantime, in between time, download the Underdog app. Use
[1:38:57] Speaker 2: promo code Gil. Get $ 1, 000 bonus cash plus a special pickup.
[1:38:59] Speaker 3: Yes, sir. Love, y'all. Y'all be safe.
[1:39:03] Speaker 7: Much love.
[1:39:04] Speaker 2: As a reminder, subscribe to Lou Will's Underground Lounge on YouTube.
[1:39:07] Speaker 2: They do a great work. Shout out Spank Horton, his
[1:39:09] Speaker 2: co-host as well.
[1:39:11] Speaker 1: That was legend.
[1:39:11] Speaker 2: I didn't know my memes impacted human beings like that.
[1:39:14] Speaker 2: That's why we try to get these jokes off, ladies
[1:39:16] Speaker 2: and gentlemen. So we're going to get to the finals
[1:39:19] Speaker 2: in just a second, but we want to hit something
[1:39:20] Speaker 2: real quick before Gil gets too turnt up.
[1:39:23] Speaker 3: Oh, he already there. So we talked about yesterday. Hey,
[1:39:25] Speaker 3: I ain't going to lie. I don't know. It's good?
[1:39:28] Speaker 1: Yeah.
[1:39:28] Speaker 7: Yeah.
[1:39:29] Speaker 4: Let me get a cup. Yeah, come on, man. You've
[1:39:32] Speaker 4: been out drinking by yourself, I feel bad. It is
[1:39:33] Speaker 4: Father's Day weekend. Father's Day every day here at Gills Arena.
[1:39:36] Speaker 3: Shots. Shots. Where y'all at?
[1:39:39] Speaker 2: Father's Day is every day here in the arena. No,
[1:39:42] Speaker 2: we got to pour this.
[1:39:43] Speaker 3: No, no, no, you black.
[1:39:46] Speaker 1: I don't know what that means, Gil.
[1:39:48] Speaker 3: The black man don't serve drinks around here, man.
[1:39:50] Speaker 1: We done did that for a long time. We did
[1:39:52] Speaker 1: it for a long time.
[1:39:53] Speaker 3: You like skin. You got a little half.
[1:39:55] Speaker 1: I'll do it with one finger.
[1:39:56] Speaker 3: I'll do it with my pinky.
[1:40:05] Speaker 4: Ain't no preservers in this or nothing?
[1:40:07] Speaker 3: It's June.
[1:40:08] Speaker 2: Juneteenth around the corner. Juneteenth is around the corner. It's
[1:40:11] Speaker 2: time for some emancipation here in the arena. Like we
[1:40:15] Speaker 2: talked about, Knicks fired Tom Thibodeau after getting eliminated in
[1:40:17] Speaker 2: the Eastern Conference Finals.
[1:40:19] Speaker 1: Coaching search underway.
[1:40:21] Speaker 2: Now being rejected by five teams, the Hawks, Wolves, Mavs, Rockets,
[1:40:25] Speaker 2: and Bulls, and request to interview their current head coaches. Gil,
[1:40:29] Speaker 2: you said this is all by design. Hey, this is
[1:40:31] Speaker 2: not bad, bro.
[1:40:32] Speaker 3: That's why you lost.
[1:40:34] Speaker 1: Yeah, this is not bad.
[1:40:36] Speaker 3: I mean, 1-3.
[1:40:37] Speaker 1: Let's talk about the positives.
[1:40:38] Speaker 3: It's not the Mr. B that called him out. The Mr.
[1:40:40] Speaker 1: B that called him out was the drinking Mr. B.
[1:40:42] Speaker 1: Y'all got a spot.
[1:40:43] Speaker 3: So you're doing what Allen Iverson did, that them two weeks,
[1:40:46] Speaker 3: decided he was going to be clean for the two weeks.
[1:40:47] Speaker 1: We were always in the hunt.
[1:40:48] Speaker 3: Worst two weeks.
[1:40:49] Speaker 1: He's shouting them out.
[1:40:50] Speaker 3: I just wanted to know.
[1:40:51] Speaker 1: Luna, it's over.
[1:40:52] Speaker 2: Send some bottles through, if you don't mind. We're... You'll
[1:40:57] Speaker 2: take your beverage back.
[1:40:58] Speaker 1: Yo. Is that a sponsor or you just give.
[1:41:02] Speaker 3: Them free pub? Yeah, they should be in the bottle.
[1:41:05] Speaker 4: I'm going to tell you what, it's not bad at all.
[1:41:08] Speaker 1: Right?
[1:41:08] Speaker 7: It's smooth.
[1:41:10] Speaker 1: Blanco. Yeah, that's smooth. Blanco is not bad. I know black.
[1:41:15] Speaker 1: I Blanco.
[1:41:16] Speaker 2: So we talked about the Knicks head coaching search. Requested
[1:41:20] Speaker 2: to interview five different head coaches. Hawks, Wolves, Mavs, Rockets,
[1:41:24] Speaker 2: and Bulls all denied that request. Do you think something
[1:41:27] Speaker 2: fishy is going on? Yeah, I know what them niggas
[1:41:29] Speaker 2: are doing. What are them niggas doing?
[1:41:32] Speaker 7: Smart.
[1:41:33] Speaker 3: Right? Your coach is right here. It's the son's father.
[1:41:37] Speaker 3: But you can't just give him the job. So what
[1:41:39] Speaker 3: you're doing is... You're offering a job to people that
[1:41:43] Speaker 3: already got jobs knowing what the answer is. So you're
[1:41:46] Speaker 3: pretending for the world that you're actually looking for a job.
[1:41:51] Speaker 1: And then you're going to settle with Rick.
[1:41:54] Speaker 3: Oh, man. We couldn't find nobody.
[1:41:56] Speaker 1: Everybody rejected the job. So we're just going to go
[1:41:58] Speaker 1: ahead and just give it to Rick. God!
[1:42:01] Speaker 3: Y'all slick.
[1:42:02] Speaker 2: Rick Brunson, Jalen Brunson's father. Just go ahead and give
[1:42:04] Speaker 2: Rick the job, man. I don't think nobody's going to mind.
[1:42:07] Speaker 2: We had a very extensive coach. We had our coach here.
[1:42:10] Speaker 1: All the way. Because I can.
[1:42:11] Speaker 3: Tell you, all the free agent coaches, they ain't offering
[1:42:14] Speaker 3: them no jobs.
[1:42:15] Speaker 1: They're only offering people who've got jobs jobs.
[1:42:17] Speaker 3: Which is crazy, right? Which is crazy. Like, Rick!
[1:42:22] Speaker 1: Trying to poach dude.
[1:42:23] Speaker 3: What's the coaches?
[1:42:24] Speaker 1: The Knickers.
[1:42:25] Speaker 3: Who's the coaches they've been asking? I know they did.
[1:42:27] Speaker 1: Chris Fish, J. Kidd. Quinn Snyder, I believe.
[1:42:30] Speaker 3: Quinn Snyder and... Imei Doka. Ham.
[1:42:34] Speaker 2: And the newest one is Billy Donovan. Billy Donovan. Not
[1:42:38] Speaker 2: as Darvin Hampton. All these guys have jobs.
[1:42:40] Speaker 1: Oh, they do, Darvin Hampton. That was just a minute.
[1:42:41] Speaker 1: That was just a minute. One of the four that's
[1:42:44] Speaker 1: been asked, I know I....
[1:42:47] Speaker 4: I'm in the circle of some people that knows people
[1:42:49] Speaker 4: that know some people. And it was like, fuck the Knicks.
[1:42:52] Speaker 3: Yeah. I'm just being honest. If this was just a free...
[1:43:00] Speaker 3: And this is a free job like people. And this
[1:43:04] Speaker 3: is a real thing that, you know, we're offering jobs like.
[1:43:09] Speaker 3: What is a coach looking at? Like, this is not
[1:43:11] Speaker 3: like he went. It was a losing season. You're talking
[1:43:14] Speaker 3: about you fired a man who took you here, here, here.
[1:43:18] Speaker 1: Like, well, y'all do it. The Lakers do.
[1:43:22] Speaker 7: Of course.
[1:43:24] Speaker 3: So, we did not have directors on the agenda. That's
[1:43:27] Speaker 3: what I'm saying.
[1:43:28] Speaker 1: Only a rookie coach will take it because it's a
[1:43:29] Speaker 1: job opportunity.
[1:43:31] Speaker 3: But you're talking about a coach who's been in about
[1:43:32] Speaker 3: four or five years. J.J. Reddick.
[1:43:34] Speaker 1: Very esteemed.
[1:43:35] Speaker 4: Somebody else is going to be a rookie coach. You're
[1:43:38] Speaker 4: not going to treat me that way.
[1:43:39] Speaker 3: But you're going to.
[1:43:42] Speaker 1: How stupid would they look to get a rookie coach, though?
[1:43:44] Speaker 4: But if they do get a vet coach, there's going
[1:43:48] Speaker 4: to be a bag attached to it.
[1:43:49] Speaker 1: And they already owe Tibbs a bag, if I'm not mistaken.
[1:43:51] Speaker 6: I mean, it would be stupid because you just got
[1:43:53] Speaker 6: to the Eastern Conference twice.
[1:43:55] Speaker 1: Now you got to go back? You're going to go
[1:43:56] Speaker 1: to rookie coach?
[1:43:58] Speaker 3: You got to go backwards now? It's easier to just
[1:44:01] Speaker 3: give it to the father at this point. My daddy
[1:44:06] Speaker 3: said the play is for me. That's the only thing
[1:44:08] Speaker 3: that makes sense. You sit in here like... You offered
[1:44:14] Speaker 3: the job to four people, but all four people got jobs,
[1:44:17] Speaker 3: and these people got fired, and they're the number one candidates.
[1:44:21] Speaker 3: This is what everyone is suspecting you to do, and
[1:44:24] Speaker 3: you haven't offered the job to them because they will
[1:44:26] Speaker 3: take it.
[1:44:28] Speaker 1: So is this job even available? Or is it the optics?
[1:44:32] Speaker 3: It's not like the monopoly.
[1:44:33] Speaker 1: It's like the Rooney rule in the NFL, right?
[1:44:36] Speaker 3: Find the black.
[1:44:38] Speaker 1: I talked to him. Fuck.
[1:44:40] Speaker 3: All right.
[1:44:41] Speaker 1: Come on. Come on, Black.
[1:44:42] Speaker 3: That'd be the first. I'd talk to him. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
[1:44:46] Speaker 1: You got to talk to.
[1:44:47] Speaker 3: Five Blacks this year.
[1:44:50] Speaker 1: Yeah, we talked to Black all day. Yeah, we talked
[1:44:52] Speaker 1: to him. But that'd be the first father said?
[1:44:55] Speaker 3: Right.
[1:44:56] Speaker 1: Doc and Austin. Hold on, Doc and Austin.
[1:44:58] Speaker 3: Yeah.
[1:44:59] Speaker 1: But.
[1:44:59] Speaker 2: All right, let's keep this thing moving. We got some
[1:45:01] Speaker 2: finals to discuss. Pacers and Thunder entered game three of
[1:45:04] Speaker 2: the NBA Finals tied at 1-1 after Indiana pulled off
[1:45:07] Speaker 2: another improbable comeback in game one of the series. The
[1:45:09] Speaker 2: Thunder controlled the game for most of game two and
[1:45:11] Speaker 2: won it comfortably. This one will be a closer contest
[1:45:14] Speaker 2: for sure with OKC leading early with Indy fighting back.
[1:45:17] Speaker 1: Let's take a look at the highlights.
[1:45:18] Speaker 2: Kaitlyn Clark also in the building undefeated when Kaitlyn Clark
[1:45:22] Speaker 2: is at Cambridge Fieldhouse for a Pacers game. Punter put
[1:45:26] Speaker 2: up a strong first quarter performance on the road, leading
[1:45:28] Speaker 2: for the entire period. Chet Holmgren led the way, 13
[1:45:30] Speaker 2: points in the frame. Lou Dort made all three of
[1:45:32] Speaker 2: his three-pointers to help.
[1:45:33] Speaker 1: Out with the scoring.
[1:45:34] Speaker 2: Despite being down eight after the first quarter, it was
[1:45:36] Speaker 2: good to see an aggressive version of Tyrese Alliburn for
[1:45:39] Speaker 2: the Pacers.
[1:45:40] Speaker 1: Five points, four assists in the quarter.
[1:45:41] Speaker 2: Pascal Siakam also more aggressive with seven points in the quarter,
[1:45:44] Speaker 2: including a tough turnaround bank shot to open the scoring
[1:45:47] Speaker 2: for the Pacers. Second quarter was played more in the Pacers' style,
[1:45:51] Speaker 2: and they took advantage, outscoring the Thunder 40-28 in the quarter.
[1:45:53] Speaker 1: Ben Mathery.
[1:45:55] Speaker 2: Who didn't get into the game in the first quarter,
[1:45:57] Speaker 2: lit up the scoreboard with 14 points on five-for-six shooting
[1:45:59] Speaker 2: in the second. Pacers led by as many as seven
[1:46:02] Speaker 2: points in the quarter. Took a four-point lead in the half.
[1:46:06] Speaker 2: Let's look at, shout out to your Arizona boy Ben
[1:46:08] Speaker 2: Matherin doing his thing. Double zero, don't you? Not one zero,
[1:46:12] Speaker 2: but two.
[1:46:16] Speaker 1: Ooh.
[1:46:17] Speaker 3: That one leg.
[1:46:19] Speaker 1: There's some Canadian shit going on in these finals, ladies
[1:46:21] Speaker 1: and gentlemen. Yeah, that, yo, yeah.
[1:46:26] Speaker 3: Let's take a look.
[1:46:32] Speaker 2: SGA didn't perform as well as he normally does in
[1:46:35] Speaker 2: this game, but tightly contested game in the first half.
[1:46:38] Speaker 2: Hadley's three ball was doing its thing. As I said,
[1:46:41] Speaker 2: the Pacers were up by four at the half. But
[1:46:45] Speaker 2: Thunder fought back in the third quarter, outscoring the Pacers
[1:46:49] Speaker 2: by nine points. SGA and Jalen Williams had nine points
[1:46:51] Speaker 2: each in the quarter, and the Thunder took a five-point
[1:46:53] Speaker 2: lead into the fourth quarter. after Williams into the quarter
[1:46:56] Speaker 2: with a nice step back three. We see Howley doing
[1:46:59] Speaker 2: his thing. In threes, that's a zero right there, ladies
[1:47:04] Speaker 2: and gentlemen. This was a good one. We were on
[1:47:08] Speaker 2: playback watching this game. Gil, you said you were a
[1:47:10] Speaker 2: little concerned for the Thunder at this point, just because
[1:47:12] Speaker 2: they weren't, or excuse me, the Pacers at this point,
[1:47:14] Speaker 2: because they weren't able to pull away. But in the
[1:47:16] Speaker 2: fourth quarter, Ben Matherin would get hot again, scoring another
[1:47:20] Speaker 2: 10 points for the Pacers. Pacers outscored the Thunder 32
[1:47:22] Speaker 2: to 18 in the fourth quarter. get the win, take
[1:47:28] Speaker 2: a 2-1 lead in the series. Ben Mather led the
[1:47:31] Speaker 2: Pacers in scoring with a playoff career high 27 points
[1:47:34] Speaker 2: on 9-12 shooting off the bench. Most points off the
[1:47:36] Speaker 2: bench in the final since another Arizona Wildcat. Jason Terry
[1:47:39] Speaker 2: did so for the Mavs in 2011. Tyrese Halliburton almost
[1:47:43] Speaker 2: messed around and dropped the triple-double. He had 22 points,
[1:47:45] Speaker 2: 11 assists, and 9 rebounds. Pacers are now 20-1 in
[1:47:48] Speaker 2: the regular season and playoffs combined when Hallie has at
[1:47:51] Speaker 2: least 20 points and 10 assists. Pascal Siakam also had
[1:47:54] Speaker 2: 21 points on 8 14 shooting TJ McConnell another spark
[1:47:59] Speaker 2: plug off the bench for the Pacers he had 10
[1:48:01] Speaker 2: points to go along with five assists and five steals
[1:48:05] Speaker 2: several inbound passes a part of those five steals McConnell's
[1:48:07] Speaker 2: the first player ever to post that stat line off
[1:48:10] Speaker 2: the bench in NBA Finals history on the OKC side
[1:48:14] Speaker 2: the MVP SGA had 24 points on 9 for 20
[1:48:17] Speaker 2: shooting Jalen Williams had a team-high 26 points he was
[1:48:19] Speaker 2: 50 on the night. Chet Holmgren, 20 points, 10 rebounds.
[1:48:24] Speaker 2: OKC had 19 turnovers vaulting and 21 points on the
[1:48:27] Speaker 2: other end for the Pacers. Pacers bench outscored the Thunders
[1:48:29] Speaker 2: 49-18 in the game. Some people can handle their tequila.
[1:48:34] Speaker 2: Some people cannot, ladies and gentlemen. It is a block up.
[1:48:36] Speaker 2: I saw him over here. You saw him out there fidgeting, shaking.
[1:48:40] Speaker 2: Gil has left the arena for a bathroom break. Indiana
[1:48:43] Speaker 2: proved in 5-0 this postseason in games following the loss.
[1:48:47] Speaker 2: We also saw Reggie Miller with the tucked-in jersey.
[1:48:50] Speaker 1: Looking disgusting.
[1:48:52] Speaker 2: Very diabolical. But that's Reggie's fit. That's how he gets going.
[1:48:56] Speaker 2: Very diabolical fit. Had the internet buzzing in that moment. But, Kenyon,
[1:49:01] Speaker 2: I'll start with you. Was game three more about what
[1:49:03] Speaker 2: the Pacers did or what the Thunder didn't do?
[1:49:07] Speaker 1: That was what the Pacers did. That's the finals, man.
[1:49:12] Speaker 3: It's about.
[1:49:15] Speaker 4: Making adjustments like I stated before, man. At each timeout,
[1:49:19] Speaker 4: at each quarter, each half, each game, you got to
[1:49:22] Speaker 4: do things different and more efficient than you did the
[1:49:26] Speaker 4: game before. Your attention to detail has to be more.
[1:49:31] Speaker 4: And I think Indiana did a good job of that
[1:49:33] Speaker 4: going back home. Knowing that the Thunder were going to
[1:49:37] Speaker 4: come out with a lot of energy and a lot
[1:49:39] Speaker 4: of aggression early because they're trying to get that game back.
[1:49:43] Speaker 3: Staying poised.
[1:49:44] Speaker 4: Staying poised throughout the course of it, the 48 minutes. And, yeah,
[1:49:49] Speaker 4: I like what I saw in Indiana. I liked them
[1:49:51] Speaker 4: going home and the crowd was into it like we
[1:49:54] Speaker 4: thought they would. But I like what I saw out
[1:49:56] Speaker 4: of the Pacers.
[1:49:57] Speaker 1: Moe Zaffer, you good? You feeling okay? You good?
[1:49:59] Speaker 3: Woo!
[1:50:00] Speaker 1: That Luna Azul?
[1:50:01] Speaker 3: Yeah. Blue Moon.
[1:50:03] Speaker 1: Yeah. You wouldn't know nothing about none of this.
[1:50:07] Speaker 3: Yeah, I've been sober. Because you're sober. You look like
[1:50:10] Speaker 3: you're having fun over there. Mm-hmm. Mr. B. Clearing out
[1:50:16] Speaker 3: my liver right now.
[1:50:17] Speaker 1: Detoxing. Mr. B.
[1:50:19] Speaker 2: what did you think about patient performance, game three, getting
[1:50:23] Speaker 2: the win at home, 2-1 series in the lead as
[1:50:25] Speaker 2: we talked about earlier in the show. The winner of
[1:50:26] Speaker 2: game three when the series is tied 1-1 goes on
[1:50:28] Speaker 2: to win that series 80% of the time.
[1:50:31] Speaker 6: Yeah, well, you know, I feel like the Pacers did
[1:50:33] Speaker 6: their job, you know, even in the OKC when they
[1:50:36] Speaker 6: got the one game. Then going back home with the
[1:50:38] Speaker 6: home court advantage, you know, I really want to shout
[1:50:41] Speaker 6: out TJ. I think his play in the second quarter,
[1:50:44] Speaker 6: just coming out that second quarter, getting steals, was able
[1:50:47] Speaker 6: to make plays. He had five steals in the game.
[1:50:50] Speaker 6: Of course, Hallenberg, you know, when he's aggressive, you know,
[1:50:52] Speaker 6: they definitely play different. But, no, I feel like they
[1:50:55] Speaker 6: did what they were supposed to do. They kept the
[1:50:57] Speaker 6: game close. I know me and Gil was talking. I
[1:50:59] Speaker 6: know Gil was a little worried about them because the
[1:51:01] Speaker 6: game was close, but I felt like it was to
[1:51:02] Speaker 6: their advantage with the game being close because, you know,
[1:51:05] Speaker 6: that's when Hiley and all these guys, they start making
[1:51:07] Speaker 6: big plays. So other than that, you know, they did
[1:51:10] Speaker 6: what they were supposed to do, game three. They up
[1:51:12] Speaker 6: 2-1 and, you know, try to go ahead and get
[1:51:14] Speaker 6: game four.
[1:51:14] Speaker 2: Gil, as I mentioned, watching that game on playback, you
[1:51:18] Speaker 2: were a little concerned for the Pacers third quarter. Thunder
[1:51:22] Speaker 2: took a little lead. Pacers were able to respond, come back.
[1:51:25] Speaker 2: put their foot on the gas in the fourth quarter,
[1:51:27] Speaker 2: get that win. You did come to the arena yesterday.
[1:51:29] Speaker 2: In all Pacers gear, we thought that they may not
[1:51:31] Speaker 2: bode well for Indiana heading into that game. But you
[1:51:35] Speaker 2: were the Kaitlin Clark on this couch helping inspire and
[1:51:37] Speaker 2: lead them to victory.
[1:51:38] Speaker 3: No, no, I'm not a Fever fan.
[1:51:39] Speaker 1: I'm a Pacers fan.
[1:51:41] Speaker 2: But Kaitlin Clark shows up to Pacers games. The Pacers win.
[1:51:45] Speaker 1: Oh, she's the most famous person in the building.
[1:51:47] Speaker 3: That's correct. Hey, that's crazy.
[1:51:51] Speaker 1: What's the question? Edrin James was also at the game.
[1:51:53] Speaker 1: I just want to point that out. Terry Crews was there, too.
[1:51:55] Speaker 1: Terry Crews was also.
[1:51:56] Speaker 3: Shit, star Spanish. Bring out the red carpet.
[1:51:59] Speaker 1: I am a boy, Damon.
[1:52:01] Speaker 3: Bring out the red carpet. The most famous people is ex-athletes.
[1:52:05] Speaker 1: No Terry Crews. What?
[1:52:07] Speaker 3: Another ex-athlete? Okay. Cincinnati Bearcat. Cincinnati Bearcat. I'm just saying so.
[1:52:12] Speaker 2: Reggie Miller with the tucked-in jersey, which I know you're
[1:52:15] Speaker 2: a fan of.
[1:52:16] Speaker 1: Usually, when you go into an athlete, it's usually like.
[1:52:21] Speaker 3: regular famous people that's on TV and stuff. But there
[1:52:23] Speaker 3: you go.
[1:52:23] Speaker 1: What's your question?
[1:52:26] Speaker 3: I don't even remember. How did the Pacers.
[1:52:30] Speaker 2: Yeah, but what do you think about the Pacers' performance
[1:52:32] Speaker 2: in that Game 3? Team you're supporting now currently on
[1:52:34] Speaker 2: their bandwagon, getting the dub, Game 3.
[1:52:36] Speaker 3: I mean, listen, they did a great job. People that...
[1:52:42] Speaker 3: Players like T.J., players like O.B., Ben.
[1:52:50] Speaker 3: You know, they did what they were supposed to do, right?
[1:52:55] Speaker 3: They came in, changed the game. And when I say
[1:52:58] Speaker 3: changed the game, it's a big gap between the starting
[1:53:04] Speaker 3: five and the bench. The starting five, Pacers versus OKC
[1:53:10] Speaker 3: starting five, Pacers are getting their ass whooped. I think
[1:53:15] Speaker 3: the starting five over the starting five is plus 17
[1:53:18] Speaker 3: by the Pacers. It's the bench that's changing the game
[1:53:21] Speaker 3: for the Pacers. When you got, you know, TJ coming
[1:53:25] Speaker 3: in the game, it's a different feel when he comes
[1:53:28] Speaker 3: in the game because he's a lot faster. And he
[1:53:34] Speaker 3: doesn't have that bop around game. He's just going downhill.
[1:53:37] Speaker 3: It kind of changes the tempo of the offense, and
[1:53:42] Speaker 3: it kind of puts the defense at a– They got
[1:53:47] Speaker 3: to collapse a little bit more than they do with Hallie.
[1:53:51] Speaker 3: And that leaves open shots for somebody like Ben. And
[1:53:55] Speaker 3: I think if OKC wants to just win this series,
[1:54:02] Speaker 3: they have to really pay attention to that second unit.
[1:54:08] Speaker 1: Ben... TJ is, you treat TJ.
[1:54:12] Speaker 3: Like a star player who can hurt you, which he's doing,
[1:54:18] Speaker 3: which he has done throughout the playoffs. When he comes
[1:54:22] Speaker 3: in the game, the impact is felt. When he came
[1:54:27] Speaker 3: in the game, it was almost about to be a blowout.
[1:54:30] Speaker 3: Two bad possessions, the game would have been 16 to 20.
[1:54:35] Speaker 3: Two possessions his way, damn near a tie game. Steal, turnover, bucket,
[1:54:39] Speaker 3: offensive rebound. Like, you got the smallest guy getting offensive
[1:54:42] Speaker 3: rebound for layups. He's pushing it for the three. He's stealing.
[1:54:46] Speaker 3: He's getting the layup. Like, he's doing so much in
[1:54:50] Speaker 3: a short period of time where that time where you
[1:54:53] Speaker 3: sub out, you think you have an advantage to, like,
[1:54:56] Speaker 3: throw the lead up, and he cuts the lead.
[1:54:59] Speaker 1: Right? So, my scouting.
[1:55:03] Speaker 3: Report would be against T.J., and Ben more than it
[1:55:09] Speaker 3: is Siakam. But I have players that I think can
[1:55:13] Speaker 3: guard him one-on-one. I have players, we already have a
[1:55:16] Speaker 3: game plan, but you don't have anybody off that bench
[1:55:18] Speaker 3: that's containing TJ at a form where he's not impacting
[1:55:22] Speaker 3: the game. Like, you know, when he was fucking Brunson,
[1:55:26] Speaker 3: I'm getting Brunson. Like, my second unit player is getting
[1:55:29] Speaker 3: Brunson in foul trouble, having him sit on the bench.
[1:55:32] Speaker 3: That is an impact. That's too much of an impact
[1:55:37] Speaker 3: for a guy who's on the second. So treat that
[1:55:40] Speaker 3: motherfucker like he is the number one option because he's
[1:55:44] Speaker 3: playing like one. You got Ben, 22 minutes, 27 points.
[1:55:49] Speaker 3: What game plan are y'all game planning for? What do
[1:55:51] Speaker 3: you think is going to happen when these two come
[1:55:52] Speaker 3: in the game? These motherfuckers acting like they're shacking Kobe
[1:55:55] Speaker 3: around his bitch. You know. But that's where the game
[1:56:01] Speaker 3: is won at. It's won because who's in in the
[1:56:04] Speaker 3: second quarter? Who's in in the fourth quarter? Who's starting
[1:56:07] Speaker 3: that off? Like I mentioned, Pacers bench outscored the Thunder 49-18.
[1:56:12] Speaker 3: Ben Rather in 27 points, 22 minutes. Highest point total
[1:56:16] Speaker 3: off the bench since Jason Terry did the same thing
[1:56:18] Speaker 3: in 2011 finals. But let's talk a little bit about
[1:56:21] Speaker 3: how he's Barrera. He's playing like how Barrera played in
[1:56:25] Speaker 3: that championship year where when he comes in the game,
[1:56:28] Speaker 3: it's a full factor player. Right, he's not just a
[1:56:32] Speaker 3: sub coming in trying to control like, yeah, you know.
[1:56:36] Speaker 3: He's coming in trying to push the tempo. I didn't
[1:56:39] Speaker 3: know he was that fast. Been doing it all playoffs, too. No,
[1:56:43] Speaker 3: I'm serious.
[1:56:43] Speaker 1: But I didn't know he was that fast.
[1:56:45] Speaker 3: Oh, yeah, TJ. Oh, yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
[1:56:47] Speaker 1: Sneaky, deceptive. Sneaky little.
[1:56:50] Speaker 3: Sneaky athletic.
[1:56:52] Speaker 4: Shit, he had five steals. Miles Turner had five blocks. Bro,
[1:56:57] Speaker 4: that's winning basketball, man.
[1:57:00] Speaker 3: Yeah. Yeah. Like, he looked like, what's so funny is
[1:57:03] Speaker 3: between the starting five and then him, he looked like
[1:57:07] Speaker 3: he was the only one trying to win. It was
[1:57:10] Speaker 3: like when Pacers, I mean, when the OKC got up
[1:57:12] Speaker 3: by like nine, ten, it seemed like they were like, yeah.
[1:57:17] Speaker 1: And he came in with that, I mean, fuck all,
[1:57:19] Speaker 1: you know what I mean?
[1:57:20] Speaker 3: He came in and was like, gave them more hope.
[1:57:24] Speaker 1: Both times he subbed in. Yeah.
[1:57:27] Speaker 3: That's the start of that second quarter.
[1:57:28] Speaker 1: Expect to see more of him in game four. Yeah.
[1:57:30] Speaker 8: Mm-hmm.
[1:57:32] Speaker 1: I'm trapping him. I'm trapping him. I'm trapping him. They're not.
[1:57:36] Speaker 3: I know they're not. They think they're good enough. If
[1:57:43] Speaker 3: you're trapping him, you're trapping his effect on.
[1:57:48] Speaker 1: Touching the paint.
[1:57:51] Speaker 3: That's where he's going. He wants to go to the paint.
[1:57:53] Speaker 3: When he loads up, he's going to crossover. If you
[1:57:56] Speaker 3: stop that crossover, he's going to Darren Williams you. It's
[1:57:59] Speaker 3: his move. One and go. Oh, beep, beep. That's his
[1:58:03] Speaker 3: two moves, That's all he's going to do. That's it.
[1:58:08] Speaker 3: That's it.
[1:58:10] Speaker 1: So stop moving left to right with him.
[1:58:11] Speaker 3: Move back. As soon as you see him load up,
[1:58:14] Speaker 3: just back up knowing that it's going to go one
[1:58:17] Speaker 3: or one, two. That's his combination right now. But whatever
[1:58:21] Speaker 3: he's trying to do, just load up on him. Make
[1:58:24] Speaker 3: him pass the ball without touching the paint. Because once
[1:58:28] Speaker 3: he touches the paint, because he's a threat, you got
[1:58:31] Speaker 3: to treat him like a Westbrook or a Shea.
[1:58:33] Speaker 1: You got to collapse on him. And then he's going
[1:58:37] Speaker 1: to make that pass. Right? Hallie, he's driving to pass
[1:58:41] Speaker 1: the ball at the beginning.
[1:58:44] Speaker 3: So, you know what I mean? He's going to drive
[1:58:45] Speaker 3: looking to already pass. He's looking to score. You stop
[1:58:48] Speaker 3: the score, he's passing. So he's a little bit more
[1:58:50] Speaker 3: dangerous when he gets in the game. So you really, like,
[1:58:54] Speaker 3: if you're going to double, I'd rather you double him
[1:58:57] Speaker 3: and just play Hallie one-on-one. At this point, because obviously
[1:59:02] Speaker 3: you're winning.
[1:59:03] Speaker 1: You're winning one, two, and three.
[1:59:06] Speaker 3: You're up. You're losing in the fourth quarter. All the
[1:59:09] Speaker 3: fourth quarters right now against them, you're losing in the fourth.
[1:59:13] Speaker 2: So speaking of Hallie, Halliburton took some criticism after a
[1:59:16] Speaker 2: 17.6 assist game in the game two loss. Here's what
[1:59:20] Speaker 2: he said about being criticized by national media. after game two?
[1:59:24] Speaker 11: Yeah, I think, um, the commentary is always going to
[1:59:28] Speaker 11: be what it is. You know, most of the time,
[1:59:31] Speaker 11: the talking heads on the major platforms, I, I couldn't
[1:59:36] Speaker 11: care less, honestly, like what do they really know about basketball? Um,
[1:59:40] Speaker 11: but I think as a group, you know, and, and
[1:59:42] Speaker 11: watching film myself, seeing where I can get better is, uh,
[1:59:45] Speaker 11: is important.
[1:59:46] Speaker 3: And, uh, you know, I, I mean, at a time.
[1:59:49] Speaker 11: Like this, I'm not really on social media as much. Um,
[1:59:52] Speaker 11: I try to, stay off it as much as I can,
[1:59:54] Speaker 11: but you know, you see it and, you know, ESPN
[1:59:57] Speaker 11: might be on in my house and there it is. And,
[1:59:59] Speaker 11: you know, it is what it is, but I think
[2:00:01] Speaker 11: just seeing where I can be better is the most
[2:00:03] Speaker 11: important thing. And having that reflection with myself, I talk
[2:00:06] Speaker 11: a lot, obviously with, with my trainer, Drew and coach
[2:00:09] Speaker 11: Carlisle and all those guys. And it's a, you know,
[2:00:12] Speaker 11: constant conversation of seeing where I can get better. There
[2:00:15] Speaker 11: was adjustments that had to be made coming into today
[2:00:17] Speaker 11: for me. And I thought I did a better job
[2:00:19] Speaker 11: at that. The commentary was, is what it is at
[2:00:22] Speaker 11: this point. You know, it doesn't matter. You know, we're
[2:00:24] Speaker 11: here in the NBA finals, two wins away from an
[2:00:27] Speaker 11: NBA championship. So, you know, just got to stay with it, put.
[2:00:30] Speaker 3: My head down, keep working.
[2:00:31] Speaker 11: And as a group, we just got to keep learning
[2:00:33] Speaker 11: from our mistakes, seeing where we can get better and
[2:00:35] Speaker 11: take it a day at a time.
[2:00:37] Speaker 2: Howie mentioned talking to his trainers, talking to coaches, potentially
[2:00:42] Speaker 2: the group chat may have had something to do with it.
[2:00:45] Speaker 2: So you like how Howie responded after being criticized for
[2:00:48] Speaker 2: his lack of aggressiveness in game two?
[2:00:53] Speaker 3: Yes.
[2:00:54] Speaker 1: I mean, yes, because he won.
[2:00:56] Speaker 3: Right. I mean, you know, it's the criticism is not.
[2:01:01] Speaker 3: It's not a hate towards him. It's it's an understanding of.
[2:01:09] Speaker 3: You need to be more aggressive because your team needs it.
[2:01:12] Speaker 1: Right.
[2:01:12] Speaker 3: This is not like, hey, man, stop shooting because you're
[2:01:15] Speaker 3: fucking the team. It's one of those things where it's like, yo,
[2:01:18] Speaker 3: you're this good when you score 20.
[2:01:22] Speaker 1: Plus, 21 points.
[2:01:25] Speaker 3: Your team is 26 in this. 9-1. That means the
[2:01:31] Speaker 3: more you're scoring, the better your odds are. So when
[2:01:36] Speaker 3: you think you're going to just be a passer, you're
[2:01:39] Speaker 3: hurting the team in winning. So if you're saying you
[2:01:42] Speaker 3: are this team guy, then these are the stats. So
[2:01:46] Speaker 3: it's just that simple. Hey, these are the stats.
[2:01:51] Speaker 7: Right?
[2:01:51] Speaker 3: If you shoot more, higher percentage of winning. When you
[2:01:56] Speaker 3: don't shoot, this is the record. Pick. So if you're picking,
[2:02:02] Speaker 3: if you're picking not shooting, then you're, we don't have
[2:02:06] Speaker 3: a chance of winning. That's what the stats are saying.
[2:02:09] Speaker 2: 20 and 1 when he scores 10 points, or 20
[2:02:11] Speaker 2: points and 10 assists, regular season playoff combined will be
[2:02:13] Speaker 2: either 8 and 1 in the postseason when he goes
[2:02:15] Speaker 2: over 20 points.
[2:02:16] Speaker 1: So it would seem.
[2:02:17] Speaker 3: Yeah. But I mean, if you don't know that, if
[2:02:20] Speaker 3: you're not If someone is not really telling you that,
[2:02:23] Speaker 3: then you just playing the game how you see the game.
[2:02:25] Speaker 1: Like, you know what I mean?
[2:02:26] Speaker 3: Like, he's the type of player that's whatever the game
[2:02:30] Speaker 3: is giving him, that's what he's going to be doing.
[2:02:32] Speaker 1: And then you're going to have to remind him, hey, hey,
[2:02:35] Speaker 1: shoot something. You ain't shot him.
[2:02:36] Speaker 3: Oh, okay, my bad. You know, because it's like when
[2:02:39] Speaker 3: I see him.
[2:02:39] Speaker 1: It's like it's cash money. It's like, yo, I'd rather
[2:02:42] Speaker 1: you just shoot all the shots.
[2:02:46] Speaker 6: Yeah, the whole team energy is different when he's aggressive. Like,
[2:02:50] Speaker 6: guys are just playing different guys. It's like shots are falling,
[2:02:52] Speaker 6: and guys are just playing better. The flow is better
[2:02:55] Speaker 6: for them. So every time he is aggressive, yeah, they're
[2:02:58] Speaker 6: a whole different team. I mean, it just rubs off
[2:03:01] Speaker 6: on everybody, I think, though, from everybody.
[2:03:04] Speaker 2: So can you, like, how he responded after getting criticized
[2:03:07] Speaker 2: by the media in Game 2?
[2:03:08] Speaker 1: Stephen A, first take today.
[2:03:10] Speaker 3: No, he realized, man, what he didn't do. It didn't
[2:03:12] Speaker 3: come from the media.
[2:03:15] Speaker 4: Like he said, watching the film and things like that,
[2:03:18] Speaker 4: he realized... what he didn't do, things that he probably
[2:03:21] Speaker 4: did in game one, areas where he could be better
[2:03:25] Speaker 4: or different in game two, he didn't accomplish that. So
[2:03:27] Speaker 4: it's just about going back to the drawing board, man,
[2:03:29] Speaker 4: going home, being more comfortable in your building, and yeah,
[2:03:33] Speaker 4: just eliminating some of the small mistakes, the turnovers that
[2:03:39] Speaker 4: you probably could, I normally wouldn't have, things like that.
[2:03:43] Speaker 4: And if I get to this spot, then, Instead of
[2:03:47] Speaker 4: me looking to pass, I'm going to look to shoot
[2:03:49] Speaker 4: it today. I look to pass it in game two.
[2:03:51] Speaker 4: So I'm going to look to shoot it in there.
[2:03:53] Speaker 4: So the floater he made, the long floaters and stuff
[2:03:55] Speaker 4: like that, before he was getting in there, he was
[2:03:57] Speaker 4: passing that. He's shooting that first and then passing the second,
[2:04:00] Speaker 4: which gives points. So, you know, I wasn't expecting anything
[2:04:04] Speaker 4: different out of him to come out. And no one
[2:04:07] Speaker 4: was at stake, man. Like, no one was at stake.
[2:04:10] Speaker 4: They have home court already. Not trying to relinquish it.
[2:04:16] Speaker 2: No free throws in the first three games of this
[2:04:18] Speaker 2: final rally, though.
[2:04:21] Speaker 3: I mean, he's like Steph, right? That's not their style
[2:04:26] Speaker 3: of play, right? Their style of play is not trying
[2:04:28] Speaker 3: to create content.
[2:04:29] Speaker 1: I mean, contact, right? That's our style of play.
[2:04:33] Speaker 3: He's a float guy. He's a step shoot. I mean,
[2:04:36] Speaker 3: he can get a shot off fast. So it's not
[2:04:38] Speaker 3: like you're in position to block his shot. How he
[2:04:42] Speaker 3: shoots the ball, you know what I mean? So you're
[2:04:45] Speaker 3: not sitting there loading up, trying to block it where
[2:04:48] Speaker 3: he can throw his leg out, pump fake you and
[2:04:50] Speaker 3: do all that. So he can have 30-40 without shooting
[2:04:54] Speaker 3: a free throw. Even his runner, his runner from the
[2:04:57] Speaker 3: free throw line. So there's no contact with that shot.
[2:05:02] Speaker 3: So you're not really concerned about him not getting a
[2:05:05] Speaker 3: free throw. He's not like SGA where he's looking for
[2:05:08] Speaker 3: contact for you. to be able to call that call.
[2:05:12] Speaker 3: But it's crazy, though, that he ain't shot now.
[2:05:16] Speaker 1: Not even a technical, not even an independent. He's out
[2:05:20] Speaker 1: there a lot.
[2:05:21] Speaker 2: He's out there a lot of minutes. So for him
[2:05:23] Speaker 2: not to go to the line is crazy. So we
[2:05:27] Speaker 2: saw Hallie's response, media criticism. I want to know for
[2:05:30] Speaker 2: you three on this couch, did media criticism ever motivate
[2:05:33] Speaker 2: you or were you always self-motivated? Like some people need
[2:05:36] Speaker 2: haters to help motivate them keep that spark keep that
[2:05:39] Speaker 2: fire going were you guys able to do that without
[2:05:41] Speaker 2: the criticism or did that you need that to help
[2:05:43] Speaker 2: be a driving.
[2:05:43] Speaker 4: Factor personally I never picked up the paper or watched
[2:05:50] Speaker 4: shit so I never got into it to be blatantly
[2:05:53] Speaker 4: honest they're fucking beat writers man they just they gonna
[2:05:57] Speaker 4: come talk to us and write what we say or
[2:05:59] Speaker 4: they not gonna do so I didn't.
[2:06:03] Speaker 3: I mean I mean if you're a competitor you know
[2:06:06] Speaker 3: You should know when you're getting your ass whooped.
[2:06:08] Speaker 1: You should just be self-motivated. You don't need group chats
[2:06:10] Speaker 1: or media.
[2:06:11] Speaker 3: You should be able to feel it.
[2:06:14] Speaker 6: It's like reading the room. If you look at the
[2:06:18] Speaker 6: stats and you look at your numbers and you're seeing
[2:06:21] Speaker 6: we didn't lost like four out of the last five.
[2:06:25] Speaker 2: You don't need anybody to tell you that.
[2:06:27] Speaker 3: It should be right there to tell you.
[2:06:30] Speaker 1: How about yourself?
[2:06:31] Speaker 3: I'm going to fuck what our record was. I was
[2:06:33] Speaker 3: averaging 29. Okay, so you ain't got to tell me
[2:06:39] Speaker 3: not to shoot the ball.
[2:06:40] Speaker 1: I can tell you that for damn sure.
[2:06:42] Speaker 3: I mean, but if they did have a stat that said, yeah,
[2:06:44] Speaker 3: when you average about 15, they 40 and 0, we're
[2:06:46] Speaker 3: going to lose. God damn it, we ain't winning the
[2:06:51] Speaker 3: championship this year because I can tell you this, 15
[2:06:56] Speaker 3: points a game only gets you like 20 million. 29
[2:07:00] Speaker 3: gets you max. I mean, this is.
[2:07:06] Speaker 1: With a big sip out of the cup.
[2:07:08] Speaker 3: Man, man.
[2:07:09] Speaker 1: Eloquent statement. All right, well, let's shift it over. That'd
[2:07:12] Speaker 1: be a hell of a shit right there.
[2:07:15] Speaker 3: Where they throw a stat in there that just says,
[2:07:17] Speaker 3: when you don't shoot.
[2:07:18] Speaker 2: Unfortunately, ladies and gentlemen, we're not going to win this game.
[2:07:25] Speaker 3: Jesus, I'm glad analytics was around then, boy.
[2:07:30] Speaker 2: Conversely, if there was a stat that, hey, we're 40
[2:07:32] Speaker 2: or no when Gil scores 30.
[2:07:34] Speaker 1: I'm going to do that anyway. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.
[2:07:36] Speaker 1: I didn't need that analytic.
[2:07:37] Speaker 2: But after career night, here was Ben Matherin on SportsCenter
[2:07:42] Speaker 2: with SVP after the game.
[2:07:44] Speaker 9: As much as I want to live the moment and
[2:07:46] Speaker 9: hold a camera, I can't. You know, I just want to–
[2:07:49] Speaker 9: Not even a little bit?
[2:07:50] Speaker 2: I can't.
[2:07:51] Speaker 1: I just can't.
[2:07:51] Speaker 3: 27 points in the finals, not even a little bit?
[2:07:53] Speaker 1: I can't.
[2:07:53] Speaker 9: As much as I would love to, you know, I
[2:07:57] Speaker 9: think that's going to take away from my aggressiveness on
[2:07:59] Speaker 9: the court. But you know, once the championship, when I
[2:08:01] Speaker 9: have the trophy in my hands, then the job's finished.
[2:08:06] Speaker 1: 22 years old, sixth player.
[2:08:08] Speaker 2: 22-year-old, scored 25 in the finals game.
[2:08:12] Speaker 1: Third season.
[2:08:14] Speaker 3: What was that?
[2:08:14] Speaker 1: Say it again. I think 22 years old.
[2:08:18] Speaker 2: One of six players to score 25 or more in
[2:08:20] Speaker 2: a final game, I believe.
[2:08:21] Speaker 3: Can I get a shot glass?
[2:08:22] Speaker 6: How many over 20-point games he's had in the playoffs?
[2:08:26] Speaker 1: Mather?
[2:08:26] Speaker 3: Is this like his third?
[2:08:27] Speaker 1: Man, we ain't talking about Ben right now.
[2:08:30] Speaker 3: Shot, please.
[2:08:33] Speaker 7: Mather?
[2:08:35] Speaker 1: This boy about to sleep hard. We ain't talking about
[2:08:38] Speaker 1: Ben right now. This is his fourth 20-point game. Shit
[2:08:40] Speaker 1: is popping right now. What happened, Gil? Shit is popping
[2:08:42] Speaker 1: right now.
[2:08:42] Speaker 3: Shot, please.
[2:08:44] Speaker 1: What happened? No, I'm not telling Brandon Jennings. We need.
[2:08:48] Speaker 3: Come on.
[2:08:49] Speaker 1: Are you telling Mr. B? I mean Mr. B. You
[2:08:54] Speaker 1: know what? Here, just take this real quick.
[2:08:56] Speaker 3: Just take that. Stop drinking. No, no, fuck all that
[2:08:59] Speaker 3: stop drinking shit.
[2:08:59] Speaker 1: This is not time to be sober.
[2:09:00] Speaker 3: Stop drinking.
[2:09:01] Speaker 1: This is not a time to be sober.
[2:09:02] Speaker 3: Why? Trust me.
[2:09:03] Speaker 1: Why, what happened?
[2:09:04] Speaker 3: Just drink it.
[2:09:07] Speaker 7: What?
[2:09:08] Speaker 3: All right. You good?
[2:09:12] Speaker 1: Mr. G and Mr. B. All right, man.
[2:09:14] Speaker 3: That damn Pat Bev over here laughing and shit, man.
[2:09:17] Speaker 3: That's not bad. I know it's not bad. All right,
[2:09:19] Speaker 3: is it ready? We got to push a button?
[2:09:21] Speaker 1: Yeah.
[2:09:22] Speaker 3: Yeah, I should have decided.
[2:09:25] Speaker 7: Not bad.
[2:09:26] Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, yeah. Okay, so look, this is what we got.
[2:09:28] Speaker 1: Gildy, would you like to read this tweet on there?
[2:09:30] Speaker 3: No, no, I need him to read it.
[2:09:31] Speaker 1: What happened? Nigga, I can't see that.
[2:09:35] Speaker 3: I need my glasses.
[2:09:36] Speaker 1: I'll turn the brightness up, King. You got shit on dark.
[2:09:40] Speaker 1: You need another one? I have it on Caucasian.
[2:09:41] Speaker 3: You need another one? No. Huh?
[2:09:43] Speaker 7: No.
[2:09:43] Speaker 1: The one that's good?
[2:09:44] Speaker 3: Yeah, the one that's good.
[2:09:46] Speaker 5: I'll read it just while you guys look.
[2:09:47] Speaker 3: Woo!
[2:09:49] Speaker 5: From Patrick Beverly on Twitter.
[2:09:50] Speaker 6: I heard through the grapevine at Team Lou 23 and
[2:09:54] Speaker 6: tough crowd just played and Lou cooked him in low
[2:09:57] Speaker 6: top Air Force Ones.
[2:09:59] Speaker 5: At Drew handling my money on you now. That's from
[2:10:01] Speaker 5: Patrick Beverly.
[2:10:02] Speaker 2: This was tweeted at 1.45 p.m. Pacific time. Four minutes ago.
[2:10:06] Speaker 2: Five minutes ago.
[2:10:07] Speaker 3: Mm.
[2:10:15] Speaker 1: Trying to activate the smoke machine, but currently under the influence.
[2:10:19] Speaker 1: Get him. Get who?
[2:10:21] Speaker 3: The nigga that's talking.
[2:10:22] Speaker 1: I don't want to worry about him, bro.
[2:10:23] Speaker 3: Can we get gentlemen's cut? I forgot. Come on, man.
[2:10:27] Speaker 3: That was entertainment. I know it's entertainment, but tell him
[2:10:30] Speaker 3: to stay at his motherfucking place. I don't know. He
[2:10:33] Speaker 3: just keep talking.
[2:10:34] Speaker 1: Keep talking? Let him talk. Shit.
[2:10:36] Speaker 7: No, we don't want him to talk.
[2:10:37] Speaker 3: He don't want to keep trying to get back in
[2:10:39] Speaker 3: the league.
[2:10:39] Speaker 2: Can we please get the cut? Can we please get
[2:10:41] Speaker 2: a bottle of the cut, please? Everybody, everybody, yeah.
[2:10:45] Speaker 3: Huh? I'm not playing the trainer.
[2:10:47] Speaker 1: You want to play them two on two? Who?
[2:10:49] Speaker 3: Me and you. Versus who? Them two.
[2:10:51] Speaker 2: That is the gentleman's jacket. We need the gentleman. I
[2:10:54] Speaker 2: just won a championship.
[2:10:56] Speaker 7: I just won a championship, so you know I'm ready.
[2:10:58] Speaker 3: That's who I'm too? Yeah, you ready. You do all
[2:11:01] Speaker 3: the running around and shit. Huh? Okay. Because Pat can't
[2:11:05] Speaker 3: post me up. Okay. So what, me and you versus
[2:11:08] Speaker 3: him and Drew? Yes! Okay. All right.
[2:11:12] Speaker 1: Huh?
[2:11:12] Speaker 3: That's how you want it?
[2:11:13] Speaker 1: I mean, whatever. If that's how you want to do.
[2:11:15] Speaker 1: I got the referee.
[2:11:16] Speaker 3: We got everything. We have.
[2:11:18] Speaker 1: Scott Foster. No, no, I got somebody bigger than Scott.
[2:11:22] Speaker 1: You got the real fixer. I got the real extender.
[2:11:24] Speaker 1: The real extender.
[2:11:25] Speaker 3: Donahue.
[2:11:26] Speaker 1: Shout out to Donahue. Yeah.
[2:11:30] Speaker 3: Hey, both you two motherfuckers on the line. You know
[2:11:32] Speaker 3: he'd do anything for money. We ready. We ready. He'd
[2:11:35] Speaker 3: do anything for money. Somebody want to hear that, man?
[2:11:38] Speaker 3: Always winning at the mouth. B, get active. He's a mechanic.
[2:11:43] Speaker 3: I mean, let him do his thing. Let him have fun.
[2:11:45] Speaker 6: Look, I started this. I'm giving everybody a platform to talk.
[2:11:50] Speaker 6: They're only talking because of me. Think about that. Ladies
[2:11:52] Speaker 6: and gentlemen, this is what happens.
[2:11:54] Speaker 3: They're only talking because of me. This is what.
[2:11:56] Speaker 1: Happens when men get in relationships, bro.
[2:11:58] Speaker 3: Again, relationships, they want to not drink and stuff right there.
[2:12:02] Speaker 1: They happy at home, right? I'm happy, yeah.
[2:12:04] Speaker 3: This is it right here.
[2:12:05] Speaker 1: This is what we get.
[2:12:05] Speaker 3: I'm happy. Huh? This is what happens, man.
[2:12:08] Speaker 1: They want to be happy.
[2:12:09] Speaker 3: They want to be happy and stuff, be all calm,
[2:12:11] Speaker 3: meditate and shit. This is crazy. You're supposed to spaz.
[2:12:15] Speaker 1: On them, man.
[2:12:15] Speaker 2: We supposed to get active on the chat. Luna Azul,
[2:12:22] Speaker 2: ladies and gentlemen. Not to be taken lightly. It is
[2:12:26] Speaker 2: Father's Day here in the arena. Shout out to all
[2:12:28] Speaker 2: of you right there.
[2:12:28] Speaker 3: You're right. It should be Father's Day every day for
[2:12:30] Speaker 3: all the.
[2:12:31] Speaker 1: You're right, Pat.
[2:12:32] Speaker 3: You're lucky it's Father's Day weekend. We chilling. Right? We ain't... Monday, though. Monday.
[2:12:39] Speaker 3: Watch out. We're going to respond Monday. Sunday, this weekend,
[2:12:43] Speaker 3: is Father's Day weekend.
[2:12:44] Speaker 1: Father's Day weekend.
[2:12:46] Speaker 3: So how long until we play them in in 2-on-2?
[2:12:47] Speaker 1: Huh?
[2:12:48] Speaker 3: How long until we play them in in 2-on-2?
[2:12:49] Speaker 1: When you ready?
[2:12:50] Speaker 3: Whenever. Whenever. I don't want this, BJ. This is brain.
[2:12:57] Speaker 3: I don't want brain. No, I'll be drunk. Okay, okay, okay.
[2:13:01] Speaker 7: Mr.
[2:13:02] Speaker 3: B will be back. Okay, okay, okay. That's all I got.
[2:13:06] Speaker 3: I made it in.
[2:13:09] Speaker 2: Let's get back to NBA finals talk. We had to
[2:13:12] Speaker 2: veer off for just a moment. Ben Mather, 27 points,
[2:13:14] Speaker 2: 22 minutes, 22 years old. How impressed are you by
[2:13:18] Speaker 2: Ben Mather's maturity at this stage in his career? He's
[2:13:22] Speaker 2: an Arizona guy, Gil.
[2:13:22] Speaker 1: Give him some love.
[2:13:23] Speaker 3: No, I know. I got his shoes upstairs.
[2:13:25] Speaker 1: Yeah, I got his because, you know, he wore the Gil's.
[2:13:28] Speaker 7: Huh?
[2:13:28] Speaker 1: Yeah, he's Adidas. Got his own custom joints.
[2:13:31] Speaker 3: Fire. It's great, man. I mean, you know, he's one
[2:13:37] Speaker 3: of those guys that's in that loose situation, man. They're talented,
[2:13:43] Speaker 3: but the business of basketball is keeping them.
[2:13:46] Speaker 1: Where they are.
[2:13:47] Speaker 3: Right. You know, we can see how impactful he is.
[2:13:50] Speaker 3: And you just sit there and wonder, OK, if you
[2:13:51] Speaker 3: were starting playing 36, seven minutes, what would he be doing? Right. Yeah,
[2:13:56] Speaker 3: he's going to be worth this. So let's go ahead
[2:13:58] Speaker 3: and just keep him come off the bench, do what
[2:13:59] Speaker 3: he needs to do. But, you know, he deserves a
[2:14:01] Speaker 3: shot in this is this this league where he really
[2:14:06] Speaker 3: gets to see who he really is. But I mean,
[2:14:08] Speaker 3: from the time he got into the league, he's shown
[2:14:10] Speaker 3: that he has very high upside and very high. you know,
[2:14:15] Speaker 3: basketball skills. So, you know, he's displaying it right here,
[2:14:17] Speaker 3: right in front of us in real time.
[2:14:19] Speaker 2: Mr. B, what do you think about Ben Mather coming
[2:14:23] Speaker 2: through 27-piece? His 420-point game this postseason, if I'm not mistaken.
[2:14:28] Speaker 6: Yeah, I think ever since him and Giannis had that
[2:14:30] Speaker 6: little altercation, you know, he's been going crazy. But, no,
[2:14:35] Speaker 6: I mean, he's young. He's coming off the bench. You know,
[2:14:37] Speaker 6: that's what the finals is about. I mean, this is
[2:14:40] Speaker 6: what good teams have. Good teams have great players.
[2:14:42] Speaker 3: So, yeah.
[2:14:44] Speaker 6: You know, with his time that he's earning right now,
[2:14:46] Speaker 6: he's making the most of it. And he's doing his thing. So,
[2:14:48] Speaker 6: and he's young. And every time he gets his number called,
[2:14:51] Speaker 6: he goes out there and he performs. So, you know,
[2:14:54] Speaker 6: he's doing what he's supposed to do.
[2:15:00] Speaker 2: Ken, how do you feel about Ben Mather getting buckets
[2:15:02] Speaker 2: but staying composed? Saying he was not going to turn
[2:15:04] Speaker 2: up afterwards. He had more work to do. Yeah, job
[2:15:08] Speaker 2: not finished, like Steve said. But young and fearless. is
[2:15:14] Speaker 2: what he entered the league as, and it's on full
[2:15:17] Speaker 2: display now.
[2:15:20] Speaker 4: He believes in himself. He believes in his skill set.
[2:15:23] Speaker 4: He believes he is one of the better players in
[2:15:25] Speaker 4: this series. Whether he's starting or not doesn't matter for him. But, yeah,
[2:15:30] Speaker 4: that's that young, like, that mentality where I don't care.
[2:15:36] Speaker 1: I'm here to do a job.
[2:15:38] Speaker 3: I'm here to hoop.
[2:15:39] Speaker 4: It's basketball, and I think I'm good at it. And
[2:15:45] Speaker 4: he's going out and doing the things that he needs
[2:15:49] Speaker 4: to help his team be in a position to win
[2:15:51] Speaker 4: the NBA championship.
[2:15:52] Speaker 1: So age is one thing.
[2:15:55] Speaker 4: To your point, his mentality is some of older players.
[2:16:01] Speaker 4: You can just tell how his demeanor is just from
[2:16:04] Speaker 4: his statement. It's not over. I can be happy with
[2:16:07] Speaker 4: the 27, but it's not over.
[2:16:13] Speaker 2: The Pacers two games away from bringing the first championship
[2:16:17] Speaker 2: in franchise history back home to Indiana.
[2:16:18] Speaker 1: Let's shift to the Thunder side, have some things they
[2:16:20] Speaker 1: need to clean up.
[2:16:21] Speaker 3: Man, you're still talking about the Pacers, man.
[2:16:23] Speaker 1: We just got attacked here.
[2:16:26] Speaker 3: Who's we, Gil?
[2:16:27] Speaker 1: I just host.
[2:16:28] Speaker 3: Us?
[2:16:30] Speaker 1: That's y'all.
[2:16:31] Speaker 3: I got attacked. Huh?
[2:16:32] Speaker 1: Y'all got to live here. No, fuck him. I got
[2:16:35] Speaker 1: little league practice. Why?
[2:16:36] Speaker 7: Why?
[2:16:36] Speaker 3: Because he put Drew in it?
[2:16:37] Speaker 1: We win chips. You ain't hear shit.
[2:16:39] Speaker 3: He say fuck you. We win championships. I'm responding right now.
[2:16:46] Speaker 1: Are you sure you want to do that? Be here
[2:16:48] Speaker 1: in like five minutes. Because if you don't show up,
[2:16:52] Speaker 1: then it's on him. He's ducking. Yeah, he's ducking. Two minutes.
[2:16:59] Speaker 1: Or are you ducking? You are turducking at that point.
[2:17:04] Speaker 3: Post.
[2:17:05] Speaker 1: Yep.
[2:17:06] Speaker 3: See if he responds to that.
[2:17:07] Speaker 2: Be here in two minutes or you're ducking. For real one.
[2:17:13] Speaker 2: He's got two minutes to pull up chat. He don't
[2:17:16] Speaker 2: really want that smoke. Internet basketball player. So on the
[2:17:20] Speaker 2: Thunder side, they have some things they need to clean up,
[2:17:21] Speaker 2: particularly those turnovers. After the game, they were asked about
[2:17:24] Speaker 2: TJ McConnell stealing several inbounds passes in the game. And
[2:17:28] Speaker 2: what a key that was momentum-wise.
[2:17:31] Speaker 9: Those plays hurt, especially because they're very, like, controllable. You
[2:17:36] Speaker 9: can take your time and amount of the ball, but
[2:17:39] Speaker 9: you make mistakes in basketball, no matter the stage. And
[2:17:42] Speaker 9: we definitely had opportunities to cover those things up. But also,
[2:17:46] Speaker 9: you also don't let plays like that happen. um so
[2:17:50] Speaker 9: uh yeah like it just goes back to being tighter
[2:17:54] Speaker 9: being more focused being more forceful all night and um.
[2:17:58] Speaker 3: Things like that really hurt for.
[2:18:00] Speaker 6: Sure on the inbound steals from mcconnell like what did
[2:18:03] Speaker 6: those plays sort of feel like.
[2:18:05] Speaker 1: They sucked.
[2:18:07] Speaker 5: Just bad unforced turnovers.
[2:18:11] Speaker 3: So those usually hurt you.
[2:18:16] Speaker 1: They usually do. I'm going to just be honest, man.
[2:18:19] Speaker 1: Just don't feel like the finals.
[2:18:24] Speaker 3: You don't? Some good basketball being played.
[2:18:29] Speaker 1: Why do you feel that way? I don't know. The glasses, indoors.
[2:18:38] Speaker 3: Right? That's the new shit. I know it's the new shit.
[2:18:40] Speaker 3: That's what I'm saying. No, we did it. Y'all did
[2:18:43] Speaker 3: that in the finals? I don't know. No. I had
[2:18:46] Speaker 3: suits on.
[2:18:46] Speaker 1: We wore fucking suits.
[2:18:47] Speaker 7: Suits.
[2:18:47] Speaker 3: That's what I'm saying. It just looked.
[2:18:49] Speaker 7: That's what I'm saying. It just looked.
[2:18:50] Speaker 3: You guys had suits, though.
[2:18:51] Speaker 1: No, we wore professional. Most people that wore, yeah, for
[2:18:54] Speaker 1: the finals.
[2:18:55] Speaker 3: That's what I'm saying.
[2:18:56] Speaker 1: That's just the overall look.
[2:18:58] Speaker 3: I'm like.
[2:18:59] Speaker 1: Even the cola dress is up.
[2:19:00] Speaker 3: Right? Even Tim Dunst tried. Yeah, it did. People don't
[2:19:05] Speaker 3: realize during when it was kind of boycotted in the
[2:19:10] Speaker 3: dress code, it.
[2:19:11] Speaker 1: Was Tim Duncan.
[2:19:13] Speaker 3: I'm big. I don't look good in the suit. But
[2:19:16] Speaker 3: I'm just sitting there looking like.
[2:19:18] Speaker 4: Yeah, they're not fashionable, man. They think they are, but
[2:19:21] Speaker 4: they're not. It's a different fashion. They think they are,
[2:19:24] Speaker 4: but they're not. They think they... Shea, yes.
[2:19:29] Speaker 1: The rest of them dudes.
[2:19:31] Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm like.
[2:19:33] Speaker 1: They try, but they miss a lot.
[2:19:35] Speaker 7: Yeah.
[2:19:35] Speaker 1: All right.
[2:19:36] Speaker 4: You think that shit was cool when he laid that
[2:19:38] Speaker 4: shit out? Like, oh, I'm going to kill him with this. No,
[2:19:40] Speaker 4: young fella, that ain't it. Not on this stage.
[2:19:42] Speaker 3: I think it's too much of trying to be different.
[2:19:44] Speaker 3: Too much of trying to be different.
[2:19:45] Speaker 1: Yeah, absolutely. Too much.
[2:19:46] Speaker 6: Like, everybody's trying to, they think it's a runway. It's like, yo,
[2:19:49] Speaker 6: you got another game tomorrow. Like, how you getting all
[2:19:51] Speaker 6: this shit? Like, I'm just thinking about how they pack
[2:19:52] Speaker 6: all this shit now on their suitcases. Like, when we packed,
[2:19:56] Speaker 6: it was about two bags, but... Some of them got
[2:19:59] Speaker 6: big jackets. Big dumbass coats in June.
[2:20:02] Speaker 4: Like fucking Tyrese Halliburton, that motherfucker with a whole fucking
[2:20:04] Speaker 4: hoodie on.
[2:20:05] Speaker 1: It's June outside. I mean, it's June. I got a jacket.
[2:20:09] Speaker 4: Y'all fucking different. Y'all niggas wear fucking hoodies and shit.
[2:20:12] Speaker 4: That shit different. Hold on. People that don't know, they
[2:20:17] Speaker 4: sell it. I don't know where everybody, but they sell
[2:20:19] Speaker 4: that shit out. It's a real thing where they sell
[2:20:21] Speaker 4: shorts and sweatshirts. It's a real fucking thing. Yeah, the
[2:20:25] Speaker 4: crew next to me.
[2:20:27] Speaker 3: It's a good thing.
[2:20:28] Speaker 1: I was just listening to him talking. I'm like, this
[2:20:33] Speaker 1: is finals. Usually, they got the suit on.
[2:20:36] Speaker 3: Yeah, look at him. Those usually hurt you. Yeah, I mean,
[2:20:38] Speaker 3: I look.
[2:20:39] Speaker 6: That's what they're wearing today.
[2:20:42] Speaker 1: No, no, no.
[2:20:43] Speaker 3: I know that's what they're wearing. Them glasses and shit.
[2:20:45] Speaker 3: But I'm just saying, when you look at interviews, when
[2:20:49] Speaker 3: it comes to your mind, I'm pretty sure other... I'm
[2:20:53] Speaker 3: pretty sure last year they was wearing this Jason Tatum
[2:20:55] Speaker 3: name in the year. But when you think about interviews,
[2:20:57] Speaker 3: you think about finals, listen to somebody, it just suits.
[2:21:01] Speaker 1: What kind of shades are those?
[2:21:02] Speaker 3: They're just suits come into mind. Just a classier look.
[2:21:05] Speaker 3: I thought they was Chanel's. But just a classier look.
[2:21:10] Speaker 1: It has nothing to do with nothing.
[2:21:11] Speaker 3: It's just what my brain was thinking about when he
[2:21:13] Speaker 3: was talking about. I'm pretty sure that shit is expensive
[2:21:16] Speaker 3: as a motherfucker. Those are for women, I think.
[2:21:18] Speaker 1: Yeah, them terrible whatever they are.
[2:21:19] Speaker 3: Clothing aside. No, I'm just saying, I know it's expensive.
[2:21:22] Speaker 3: I'm just saying, like, when you're looking at... And the fact,
[2:21:26] Speaker 3: so this is, this heard me out, right? So when
[2:21:28] Speaker 3: we were in the finals, right, well, just our generation of,
[2:21:31] Speaker 3: these kids these days walk around looking fucking homeless, right?
[2:21:34] Speaker 1: Like, there was no game. Expensive homelessness.
[2:21:36] Speaker 4: Expensive homeless motherfuckers, right?
[2:21:40] Speaker 3: That's not good.
[2:21:41] Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah.
[2:21:42] Speaker 4: When there was no game, like, right before the finals game,
[2:21:45] Speaker 4: I was getting a haircut before every finals game. My
[2:21:48] Speaker 4: shit was going to be sharp. If I had braids, like,
[2:21:51] Speaker 4: these dudes, like, I'm getting my shit braided before every
[2:21:54] Speaker 4: game if I'm these dudes. They got to be fresh
[2:21:56] Speaker 4: because everybody's watching. I thought I was the only one
[2:21:59] Speaker 4: that noticed that.
[2:22:00] Speaker 3: That's for TV games. Man, that thing got to be tight. Finals.
[2:22:05] Speaker 4: Listen, before every game, Obie Toppin yesterday, I was like, okay,
[2:22:08] Speaker 4: young fella. We got that thing did. Lined up nice, braids,
[2:22:12] Speaker 4: Fred took your do-rag off right before you went out.
[2:22:16] Speaker 1: These motherfuckers don't give a fuck how they look.
[2:22:18] Speaker 3: I don't want to throw money in the bus, but
[2:22:20] Speaker 3: it was an assistant coach who was an ex-NBA player.
[2:22:24] Speaker 1: The sunroof was showing in the afro.
[2:22:27] Speaker 3: Yeah.
[2:22:27] Speaker 1: And I'm like, yo, you're on TV at home. You
[2:22:31] Speaker 1: didn't go get the fresh, bald, crispy, clean.
[2:22:35] Speaker 7: This is TV.
[2:22:37] Speaker 3: You know the players don't come by the bench. You
[2:22:40] Speaker 3: know they're going.
[2:22:41] Speaker 1: To see you. 2,000 cameras in this bitch now.
[2:22:42] Speaker 3: This is the finals, bro. You're supposed to be fresh stuff.
[2:22:46] Speaker 1: If you get your hair braided today... Thursday, and you.
[2:22:51] Speaker 3: Play Saturday, it got retaken out on Friday and re-put
[2:22:56] Speaker 3: back in.
[2:22:57] Speaker 1: Yeah, absolutely.
[2:22:59] Speaker 4: It's gonna be it. This is the same. Go back
[2:23:02] Speaker 4: to when Chuck was in the finals. When Mello was
[2:23:04] Speaker 4: in the playoffs. Them dudes, man, listen, fresh braids, freshness.
[2:23:08] Speaker 3: Hey, I had the fresh lease.
[2:23:10] Speaker 4: Go look at Allen Houston when he was in the playoffs.
[2:23:12] Speaker 4: That motherfucking line was.
[2:23:13] Speaker 3: They got my prison look up here. I just got
[2:23:17] Speaker 3: out the halfway house with the beard. Bro, this is.
[2:23:21] Speaker 4: Grind, Monod, dude. Everybody's looking at you right now. These
[2:23:25] Speaker 4: images live forever.
[2:23:26] Speaker 7: Yeah.
[2:23:28] Speaker 3: I mean, it could be. They could be like, man, listen,
[2:23:30] Speaker 3: I don't care, man. I'm just in the finals. I
[2:23:32] Speaker 3: could be like, okay, I get it. Nah.
[2:23:33] Speaker 1: This ain't nothing but the finals. I know.
[2:23:35] Speaker 3: This ain't nothing but the finals. Nope.
[2:23:37] Speaker 1: I know. They don't know. That does not fly.
[2:23:39] Speaker 4: Because Pascal Siakam look fucking homeless out this bitch.
[2:23:42] Speaker 3: Just.
[2:23:44] Speaker 3: Patches in his shirt. Cut that shit off.
[2:23:47] Speaker 1: Pascal, he look, yeah. This is the finest talk you've
[2:23:51] Speaker 1: ever heard.
[2:23:52] Speaker 7: That's what I'm saying.
[2:23:53] Speaker 3: He be like, man, I'm grinding right now. I was there.
[2:23:58] Speaker 1: But he wear that headband, so it's like, it's going
[2:24:00] Speaker 1: to push the star. He look just look. If you're
[2:24:03] Speaker 1: going to wear the headband, at least, yeah, all right. No,
[2:24:06] Speaker 1: I'm joking.
[2:24:07] Speaker 4: Because I have a rich homeless boy at home. I
[2:24:12] Speaker 4: tell him all the time, man, you look disgusting by
[2:24:14] Speaker 4: the head, man.
[2:24:15] Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah.
[2:24:16] Speaker 4: Like, you look awful, bro. Just last night when he
[2:24:18] Speaker 4: crashed the anniversary dinner. I'm telling him, I'm looking at
[2:24:22] Speaker 4: it like, you don't want to braid it?
[2:24:24] Speaker 1: Patrick Scales.
[2:24:27] Speaker 7: NBA, any TV game.
[2:24:30] Speaker 3: Any national TV game.
[2:24:31] Speaker 7: Fresh.
[2:24:33] Speaker 3: We playing Minnesota, Milwaukee, and Detroit. I'm good.
[2:24:36] Speaker 4: Unless it's that seventh. You're 10 days in. That seventh
[2:24:41] Speaker 4: game and that 10th day. And you're playing Milwaukee. You're like,
[2:24:44] Speaker 4: fuck it. Yeah, I'm going to go. Why it got
[2:24:46] Speaker 4: to be Milwaukee?
[2:24:47] Speaker 3: Because that is what it is. Yeah, Milwaukee, Detroit, Minnesota.
[2:24:50] Speaker 3: So y'all should come into Memphis.
[2:24:51] Speaker 1: So y'all should come into the city.
[2:24:52] Speaker 3: There ain't no TV game. Nobody can get in and
[2:24:55] Speaker 3: get out. Ain't nobody going nowhere in Milwaukee.
[2:24:58] Speaker 1: They might go to Carnivore. Ain't nobody going nowhere.
[2:25:01] Speaker 3: But even if you go there, you go through the
[2:25:02] Speaker 3: back anyway.
[2:25:04] Speaker 1: There's only a couple of spots we're going to.
[2:25:06] Speaker 4: Milwaukee one of them team sweat cities. I'm not wearing
[2:25:13] Speaker 4: a nice suit there. Milwaukee is a team sweat. And
[2:25:18] Speaker 4: I'm against wearing team sweats to dinner, clubs, anywhere other
[2:25:22] Speaker 4: than team activities. I'm against that shit. Milwaukee is one
[2:25:27] Speaker 4: of them cities where I give you an exception. If
[2:25:29] Speaker 4: you come downstairs, we go into dinner, and you got
[2:25:32] Speaker 4: your team unit, I'm going to be like, all right,
[2:25:34] Speaker 4: I get it.
[2:25:34] Speaker 1: So you see it, and you're like, we're in Milwaukee.
[2:25:35] Speaker 3: Yeah, we're in Milwaukee. Now you're playing four games in
[2:25:37] Speaker 3: five nights? We're in Houston, Miami, Dallas, LA. You come down,
[2:25:41] Speaker 3: we go into dinner, you got your team polo on.
[2:25:44] Speaker 4: Like, no, you ain't going anywhere with me, my nigga. Yeah, no,
[2:25:47] Speaker 4: you trying to embarrass me, bro. No, you trying to embarrass.
[2:25:49] Speaker 7: Me out here, my nigga.
[2:25:50] Speaker 4: Like, I'm not going to the mall with you with
[2:25:52] Speaker 4: team sweats on. We're not going to no, listen. Anything
[2:25:56] Speaker 4: on our time and you got on Team Sweats, my nigga,
[2:25:58] Speaker 4: I'm not going nowhere with you.
[2:26:00] Speaker 1: Like, we get it.
[2:26:01] Speaker 3: We get it, nigga. 6'9.
[2:26:04] Speaker 4: Like, we're the biggest. That's a group of us walking
[2:26:06] Speaker 4: in this motherfucker. We do something athletic as a fucking group.
[2:26:11] Speaker 4: We don't got to advertise.
[2:26:12] Speaker 2: All right, well, let's keep this thing moving. As you see,
[2:26:15] Speaker 2: we are celebrating Father's Day here in the arena. We
[2:26:18] Speaker 2: do Father's Day celebration a little bit differently than your
[2:26:20] Speaker 2: traditional sports media show. We have gotten turnt up off
[2:26:22] Speaker 2: the Luna Azul. We had a one-on-one battle. A lot
[2:26:24] Speaker 2: of great discussion. But we also got some food here
[2:26:27] Speaker 2: in the arena, so we'd like to shout out Bodega
[2:26:29] Speaker 2: Delights for sending us some food in the arena today.
[2:26:32] Speaker 1: Bodega Delights, a.
[2:26:33] Speaker 2: Dominican family-owned business in Los Angeles. You can find them
[2:26:35] Speaker 2: in the North Hollywood area. They're NYC natives bringing that
[2:26:38] Speaker 2: bodega food experience to L.A. with dishes like chopped cheese, empanadas, flan,
[2:26:42] Speaker 2: and much more. Find them at bodegadelights.com or bodegadelights on Instagram, TikTok,
[2:26:46] Speaker 2: or wherever you're food service, deliver you loot. So Gil,
[2:26:53] Speaker 2: you did have some comments about Cat in recent episodes.
[2:26:56] Speaker 2: We wanted to try to bridge that gap, mend the fences,
[2:26:59] Speaker 2: show our love to the Dominican community, Dominican culture, get
[2:27:02] Speaker 2: some Dominican food in here.
[2:27:04] Speaker 1: I know black, as they say.
[2:27:05] Speaker 3: Brr! Oh no!
[2:27:09] Speaker 1: Akia, Akia, Akia. Okay, my bad. Here, here, here.
[2:27:13] Speaker 3: Brr!
[2:27:17] Speaker 5: And candidly, I thought the Knicks were going to make
[2:27:18] Speaker 5: the finals, so this is going to.
[2:27:19] Speaker 2: Be like a New York thing. And we honor our
[2:27:22] Speaker 2: commitments here at Gills Arena presented by Underdog. Shout out
[2:27:25] Speaker 2: to the Dominican community. We love and embrace you. Thank
[2:27:27] Speaker 2: you for blessing us Bodega Delights with these delicious culinary offerings.
[2:27:31] Speaker 2: And now let's move on to Mostly Fans. Presented by
[2:27:34] Speaker 2: our friends at Underdog. Download the Underdog app. Use promo
[2:27:37] Speaker 2: code GIL, get up to $ 1, 000 in bonus cash, plus
[2:27:40] Speaker 2: a special pick-em. So we have one question today. It's
[2:27:42] Speaker 2: from Underdog user QuadLife33. Before I ask the question, though,
[2:27:46] Speaker 2: did Pat Baird respond to you, GIL? GIL actually did
[2:27:48] Speaker 2: send that tweet out. Told Pat Baird to be here
[2:27:50] Speaker 2: in two minutes. Pat Baird did not show up. He
[2:27:52] Speaker 2: said a trainer responded too?
[2:27:55] Speaker 3: Oh, man. That's what they saying, man. Gil, a grade
[2:28:04] Speaker 3: A instigator. Bro, we gonna beat they ass, nigga. I
[2:28:11] Speaker 3: hope they practice in for real.
[2:28:18] Speaker 2: Gil sent an offer out to Pat Bev to pull
[2:28:20] Speaker 2: up in two minutes. Two minutes has passed.
[2:28:22] Speaker 3: I want you to know, so we playing for real.
[2:28:23] Speaker 3: This ain't the two-on-two battle mode.
[2:28:26] Speaker 1: Do I look like I'm playing?
[2:28:28] Speaker 7: You just show up.
[2:28:29] Speaker 3: All this. All this. I'm just saying. All this calm
[2:28:32] Speaker 3: shit you got going on. That's scaring the shit out
[2:28:34] Speaker 3: of me. I'm telling you right now. You know what
[2:28:36] Speaker 3: I mean?
[2:28:37] Speaker 2: Turned up on the internet. I like turned up, BJ.
[2:28:39] Speaker 2: This is Father's Day weekend celebration. I like turned up, BJ.
[2:28:42] Speaker 1: We have a question.
[2:28:43] Speaker 3: Treat me like I'm Maestro.
[2:28:46] Speaker 1: Maestro?
[2:28:47] Speaker 3: Your teammate. Try to get all the buckets. Okay.
[2:28:50] Speaker 1: I'll be out there rebounding. I'll be Draymond Green out there.
[2:28:54] Speaker 2: So we have a question from underdog user wildlife 33 that, uh,
[2:28:58] Speaker 2: who was the teammate that challenged you the most to
[2:29:00] Speaker 2: get better at the game?
[2:29:02] Speaker 1: Which teammate challenged you the most to get better at
[2:29:04] Speaker 1: the game of basketball?
[2:29:08] Speaker 3: Um, and okay. So I got two, one from just
[2:29:16] Speaker 3: teaching me to get better and understanding to get better was, uh,
[2:29:20] Speaker 3: big Mark Jackson from Philly. Um, you know, like getting
[2:29:25] Speaker 3: me out of the mental run I was in. You know,
[2:29:29] Speaker 3: I didn't understand. I didn't understand, you know, coming off
[2:29:34] Speaker 3: the bench, understand work ethic and how to be like
[2:29:37] Speaker 3: a pro and how to train and practice like an
[2:29:40] Speaker 3: actual pro. You know, he challenged me and getting better
[2:29:43] Speaker 3: in that. And then on the court, Dean Oliver, point guard,
[2:29:50] Speaker 3: he came in and He was so mature in his
[2:29:57] Speaker 3: basketball skills and how he played the game and, you know,
[2:30:02] Speaker 3: just the control he was at.
[2:30:04] Speaker 1: Like, he whooped my ass in practice. Like, it was.
[2:30:12] Speaker 3: Like, I felt I was more talented than him, but
[2:30:14] Speaker 3: he was better than me at that moment in time,
[2:30:17] Speaker 3: and he never let up, and I just... I was
[2:30:19] Speaker 3: just because it was forced. I got to guard him.
[2:30:22] Speaker 3: It was one of those forced ass women that I
[2:30:24] Speaker 3: had to just really try to, you know, hold my
[2:30:26] Speaker 3: own against.
[2:30:27] Speaker 1: And he just got me better.
[2:30:28] Speaker 3: And then once I realized what he did and what
[2:30:31] Speaker 3: my skill was, and then overnight it turned into something different. But,
[2:30:35] Speaker 3: you know, just getting better and, you know, putting my
[2:30:40] Speaker 3: big boy shoes on. It was Dean Oliver.
[2:30:43] Speaker 2: Mr. B, who was that teammate that challenged you the
[2:30:46] Speaker 2: most to get better at the game?
[2:30:48] Speaker 3: I would have to say Nolan Smith.
[2:30:50] Speaker 6: When I first got to Oak Hill, you know, coming
[2:30:53] Speaker 6: all the way from California, he was already there at
[2:30:56] Speaker 6: Oak Hill. And just his work ethic and learning how
[2:30:59] Speaker 6: to work and getting up early in the mornings to,
[2:31:02] Speaker 6: you know, get ready and prepare for the season, he
[2:31:05] Speaker 6: held me really accountable.
[2:31:07] Speaker 3: So I would have to say Nolan Smith.
[2:31:10] Speaker 1: And then, Kenny, how about yourself? You know I was
[2:31:16] Speaker 1: the number one pick, right?
[2:31:17] Speaker 7: Mm-hmm.
[2:31:18] Speaker 2: I'm very aware of that. And also a distinguished gentleman
[2:31:21] Speaker 2: from Oak Cliff. For God's... No teammate challenge.
[2:31:30] Speaker 1: Like, to get better? Like, I wanted to.
[2:31:33] Speaker 4: I was the number one pick, so the pressure was there.
[2:31:35] Speaker 4: I didn't... That was fucking enough. I'm just saying, like,
[2:31:40] Speaker 4: I didn't... Like... So you challenged yourself.
[2:31:42] Speaker 3: No, but people think this is, like, some arrogant.
[2:31:44] Speaker 1: I just.
[2:31:46] Speaker 4: I didn't have these conversations with people and like somebody
[2:31:50] Speaker 4: who are like, just want to go get us extra
[2:31:52] Speaker 4: shots up and different things like, like it.
[2:31:55] Speaker 3: Like none of that coming up, like high school, like
[2:31:57] Speaker 3: none of that.
[2:31:57] Speaker 4: College made, I had a college teammate, Terrence Davis, like TD,
[2:32:00] Speaker 4: like he lived in New Orleans right now, like shout
[2:32:02] Speaker 4: out to TD. But other, like when I was a pro, no,
[2:32:04] Speaker 4: like in college, like TD, like, but.
[2:32:10] Speaker 3: Okay. But as a pro, no, I just, I didn't.
[2:32:15] Speaker 4: It was, for me, the mentality was either you're gonna
[2:32:18] Speaker 4: work or you're not, or you're gonna get better or
[2:32:19] Speaker 4: you're not, right? That's just, because me coming in, I
[2:32:23] Speaker 4: know we gotta get the fuck out of here, but
[2:32:25] Speaker 4: me coming from averaging three and a half points as
[2:32:29] Speaker 4: a freshman in college to being consensus national player of
[2:32:33] Speaker 4: the year, like, didn't nobody, it was me in the
[2:32:35] Speaker 4: gym working. Wasn't nobody challenging me. It was me realizing
[2:32:40] Speaker 4: that I fucking suck.
[2:32:42] Speaker 1: I wasn't no good.
[2:32:43] Speaker 4: I was an athlete, play hard, but I wasn't no
[2:32:44] Speaker 4: good at the skill set of basketball, so I knew
[2:32:46] Speaker 4: what I had to do. So it wasn't like nobody
[2:32:49] Speaker 4: had to be like, you need to shoot more than 30%
[2:32:51] Speaker 4: from the free throw line next year. I would have
[2:32:53] Speaker 4: been like, no shit. That just wasn't like, you need like.
[2:33:00] Speaker 4: So I would have agreed with like, I need to
[2:33:02] Speaker 4: get better, but no one, it was Bob Huggins, you
[2:33:06] Speaker 4: need to do this.
[2:33:06] Speaker 1: All right, cool.
[2:33:07] Speaker 4: But as far as teammates challenging me to get better,
[2:33:10] Speaker 4: I was... I was the alpha at Cincinnati. Me coming
[2:33:13] Speaker 4: in as the number one pick, I would look to
[2:33:14] Speaker 4: do certain things. Were you the alpha on the Nets
[2:33:17] Speaker 4: when you came in? I had a bunch of old niggas, man.
[2:33:21] Speaker 4: Like vets. Like real live vets. I was 22 when
[2:33:24] Speaker 4: I got drafted. So my mentality was different when I
[2:33:27] Speaker 4: got there. So I didn't behave like a rookie. I
[2:33:31] Speaker 4: wasn't doing dumb shit.
[2:33:35] Speaker 3: Right?
[2:33:36] Speaker 4: I wasn't teasing motherfuckers. I was doing two things when
[2:33:40] Speaker 4: I got drafted, bro. playing basketball, and chasing women, nigga.
[2:33:44] Speaker 3: That was.
[2:33:47] Speaker 3: That's what it was, bro.
[2:33:48] Speaker 1: I was trying to get better at basketball, hanging out
[2:33:51] Speaker 1: in New York City, nigga. That was nothing in between.
[2:33:55] Speaker 1: So that was what my life was.
[2:33:57] Speaker 3: At the time.
[2:33:58] Speaker 4: Listen, I could get it every year. I wouldn't have
[2:34:01] Speaker 4: had no restrictions when I hit New York. I was
[2:34:03] Speaker 4: 22 years old. I could get it everywhere. You said
[2:34:04] Speaker 4: no restrictions.
[2:34:05] Speaker 3: None.
[2:34:05] Speaker 4: A lot of dudes go to these cities. They're 19, 20.
[2:34:08] Speaker 4: You can't fucking go nowhere.
[2:34:09] Speaker 3: I didn't have that.
[2:34:11] Speaker 1: Moving freely.
[2:34:12] Speaker 3: And winning.
[2:34:12] Speaker 4: Yes, and like my rookie year, no, but and winning
[2:34:15] Speaker 4: after that. So yeah, so I'm shit.
[2:34:17] Speaker 1: And winning.
[2:34:18] Speaker 2: Well, on that note, good place to wrap up. We
[2:34:20] Speaker 2: have some Father's Day weekend celebrations to partake in. Started
[2:34:23] Speaker 2: a little bit early in the year. Appreciate you everybody
[2:34:25] Speaker 2: in the chat. Appreciate everybody in this couch. Want to
[2:34:28] Speaker 2: wish all of you out there a happy Father's Day.
[2:34:31] Speaker 3: Can you call him Trainer Boy?
[2:34:33] Speaker 1: Call him Trainer Boy.
[2:34:36] Speaker 3: The Trainer Boy?
[2:34:37] Speaker 7: Yeah.
[2:34:37] Speaker 1: Yeah, the Trainer Boy that rebounds?
[2:34:39] Speaker 3: Rebounder. That's all you're going to be doing is rebounding.
[2:34:41] Speaker 3: And you ain't going to get nothing because I'm going
[2:34:43] Speaker 3: to be down there.
[2:34:43] Speaker 1: And on that note, this has been another episode of
[2:34:46] Speaker 1: Gil's Arena presented by Underdog.
[2:34:47] Speaker 3: We will see y'all next week.

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