# Gil's Arena & Greg Oden CELEBRATE The Lakers' Winning Streak

An episode of [Gil's Arena](https://invisiblenetwork.ai/podcast/1689097415), 18 Nov 2024, 2 h 42 min.

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Gil's Arena CELEBRATES The Los Angeles Lakers' 5 Game Winning Streak as Gilbert Arenas & The Gil's Arena Crew react to LeBron James, Anthony Davis, JJ Redick & Co. ripping off 5 straight wins as the NBA's hottest team, sparking a debate on if the Lake Show should be considered a top 5 team in the NBA this season. Next, they react to Mike Tyson taking a L to Jake Paul in the Paul vs Tyson fight this weekend and discuss De'Aaron Fox cooking for the Sacramento Kings as the speedy guard dropped 109 points in 24 hours and still wants smoke with the Gil's Arena Crew. Finally, the show whips around the NBA reacting to James Harden's Historic Weekend, Inside The NBA leaving TNT For ESPN, and the NFL's plans to take over Christmas Day before welcoming former #1 Overall Pick Greg Oden into the arena as a member of the Gil's Arena Crew. Please leave us a like and subscribe!!! Gil's Arena Crew - Gilbert Arenas, Josiah Johnson, Brandon Jennings, Rashad McCants & Greg Oden Gil's Arena Merch is Available NOW at http://gilsarenamerch.com/ Use code GIL10 for 10% off your SeatGeek order https://seatgeek.onelink.me/RrnK/GIL10 Sign up for Underdog Fantasy HERE with promo code GIL and get up to $1000 in Bonus Cash and A FREE Pick: https://play.underdogfantasy.com/p-gil's-arena Try VIIA! HERE https://viia.co/gil and use code GIL! SUBSCRIBE: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCAvjYgmwadC682OoC4Cc6TQ Join the Underdog discord for access to exclusive giveaways and promos! https://discord.gg/underdog Intro 0:00:00 Show Start 0:02:57 Mr B STILL Has Smoke For Spida 0:09:19 Jake Paul vs Mike Tyson Reax 0:14:10 Lakers Win 5 Straight 0:37:55 Best Celebration in The NBA 0:39:21 Are The Lakers' Top 4 In The West? 0:46:19 The NBA Is Scared To Challenge LeBron 0:48:21 Gil COOKS Rashad's LeBron Hate 0:59:18 Greg Oden's Experience Playing With LeBron 1:11:47 Draymond's Flagrant on Edey 1:16:28 DeAaron Fox's 109 Points in 24 Hours 1:29:34 Gil & Brandon Not Welcome In Sac 1:56:39 Cavs 15-0 Start To The Season 2:03:56 What's The Problem With The Bucks? 2:16:06 Why Coaches Don't Get A Fair Shake 2:17:48 The Problem With Kwame Brown 2:24:56 Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

## Transcript

[0:02] Speaker 1: Welcome back to Gil's Arena presented by Underdog. Whoa, whoa!
[0:07] Speaker 1: Sit down. Cemetery Larry was here. Oh, yeah. Okay, we
[0:10] Speaker 1: can't start. Hold on.
[0:12] Speaker 2: Everybody just be patient for one moment. We can't start
[0:14] Speaker 2: the show.
[0:14] Speaker 3: We cannot.
[0:15] Speaker 1: Okay, he got it.
[0:16] Speaker 4: Excuse me.
[0:18] Speaker 5: Hey, Gil, low key, you got to put that on
[0:19] Speaker 5: the wall.
[0:20] Speaker 1: Excuse me? Put that on the wall? No, he likes
[0:23] Speaker 1: to hold it.
[0:24] Speaker 4: What was you saying?
[0:26] Speaker 1: That's nice. Okay. I think it's the first time. I'm scared.
[0:30] Speaker 1: This is the first time you've been on this side.
[0:35] Speaker 1: On this side? Okay, so we'll run things today. The
[0:37] Speaker 1: yin and yang.
[0:37] Speaker 3: I've got rules and regulations on this side, okay?
[0:39] Speaker 1: You put rules and regulations on this side?
[0:42] Speaker 4: Do not touch the bat, okay?
[0:44] Speaker 1: I'm good. I'm good.
[0:46] Speaker 3: Put the lotion in the basket. Put the lotion in
[0:49] Speaker 3: the basket. Mr. B, back from Milwaukee. You've been gone
[0:52] Speaker 3: for a while.
[0:53] Speaker 1: Huh?
[0:53] Speaker 4: You've been gone for a while.
[0:54] Speaker 1: But I'm here, though.
[0:56] Speaker 5: It's lit today.
[0:57] Speaker 1: I'm back, though. You just got back tonight? You just
[0:58] Speaker 1: got back this morning? You just got back this morning? No, no, no.
[1:01] Speaker 4: A couple days ago.
[1:02] Speaker 1: Okay. Just haven't pulled up. Wait, wait, wait.
[1:03] Speaker 3: Say it again?
[1:04] Speaker 1: A couple days ago. He been ducking you? Wow. I said, no.
[1:09] Speaker 5: Bro, first of all, I texted, chatted, and I said, yo,
[1:11] Speaker 5: let's go, and you ignored me. You want to play.
[1:13] Speaker 1: No, no, no, no. You know.
[1:15] Speaker 5: You want to play other people.
[1:16] Speaker 3: Did you know he was in town? Don't try to
[1:21] Speaker 3: put me into the friend zone.
[1:22] Speaker 1: No, I'm just saying.
[1:23] Speaker 3: Y'all don't talk to me.
[1:24] Speaker 1: Neither one of y'all talk to me. And now you
[1:25] Speaker 1: want me to vote.
[1:26] Speaker 4: I'm not about to.
[1:28] Speaker 1: I get back Monday. You got back Monday. Wow.
[1:34] Speaker 6: I'm still saying we're not going to talk about the
[1:36] Speaker 6: nail going through his neck.
[1:38] Speaker 1: He don't know.
[1:40] Speaker 3: He don't know.
[1:41] Speaker 1: He don't know.
[1:43] Speaker 3: We ain't got there yet. We won't get there.
[1:46] Speaker 1: This is your first time here. Believe me, we got
[1:48] Speaker 1: a lot to get into.
[1:51] Speaker 2: But this is Gills Arena presented by Underdog. As always,
[1:53] Speaker 2: we got the legend Gilbert Arenas.
[1:54] Speaker 1: What up, what up? And on this side of the couch,
[2:00] Speaker 1: we've never been in this close proximity together. I'm enjoying it.
[2:02] Speaker 1: We got Cemetery Larry, Rashad McCants.
[2:07] Speaker 2: And fresh off his trip from Milwaukee, hopefully you've mended
[2:10] Speaker 2: the fences over there. You came through with the Jack Daniels.
[2:13] Speaker 2: We got Mr. B, Brandon Jennings, back here. Brandon, tell
[2:16] Speaker 2: us a little bit about that bottle you're holding in
[2:18] Speaker 2: your hand.
[2:18] Speaker 5: You know, Jack called me. They asked me to select
[2:20] Speaker 5: a borough.
[2:21] Speaker 1: Okay.
[2:21] Speaker 5: So now this is all me, Mr. B.
[2:23] Speaker 1: Mr. B.
[2:24] Speaker 5: Want to be like Mr. B? This is the Mr. B.
[2:27] Speaker 1: Mr. Barrow. Yeah, this is the... See, that's Mr. B
[2:30] Speaker 1: right there. We got Mr. B.
[2:36] Speaker 2: And as you all can see, we got a special
[2:38] Speaker 2: guest making his first appearance in the arena. Two-time National
[2:41] Speaker 2: High School Basketball Player of the Year in 2006.
[2:44] Speaker 1: McDonald's All-American.
[2:45] Speaker 2: Went on to be an All-American in National Defense Player
[2:47] Speaker 2: of the Year at Ohio State in his lone season there.
[2:50] Speaker 2: before getting drafted with the first overall pick in the
[2:52] Speaker 2: 2007 NBA draft by the Blazers. He was an assistant
[2:56] Speaker 2: coach at Butler University, and now he's a celebrity ambassador
[2:59] Speaker 2: for A Kid Again, which is a lovely foundation doing
[3:02] Speaker 2: great work for the community.
[3:03] Speaker 1: Greg Oden.
[3:04] Speaker 3: Welcome to Gills Arena.
[3:07] Speaker 4: What's up with you, big fella?
[3:10] Speaker 1: I'm good, man.
[3:12] Speaker 6: I also teach financial literacy for a company called Educore.
[3:16] Speaker 6: As we all know, we went through it. We don't
[3:19] Speaker 6: have that financial backing. We don't come from families that
[3:22] Speaker 6: have the financial backing, so to help these young men
[3:25] Speaker 6: and women that's getting this money earlier, got to teach
[3:27] Speaker 6: them a little bit of financial literacy.
[3:30] Speaker 1: Okay. That's serious.
[3:31] Speaker 6: I'm going to go ahead and put that out there
[3:33] Speaker 6: and be serious first, but they really do need it.
[3:36] Speaker 1: Thanks to Gil, I now have the finances to be literate. No, no, no.
[3:39] Speaker 1: We see a $ 100 million contract. We think it's $ 100 million. No.
[3:40] Speaker 1: First off, it's $ 60 million.
[3:41] Speaker 5: Off the top, just $ 60 million.
[3:41] Speaker 1: Right.
[3:52] Speaker 4: And we lose $ 40 million not realizing that, you know,
[3:55] Speaker 4: it's only 60 million, it's not 100.
[3:57] Speaker 1: So we spending it like it's 100 and realize.
[4:00] Speaker 6: And, you know, for me, you know, I wasn't expecting
[4:03] Speaker 6: to get hurt. So when I retired, it was like,
[4:06] Speaker 6: hold on, this bank account ain't that 24 I thought
[4:08] Speaker 6: I made. Like, hold on, we got to figure this out.
[4:11] Speaker 6: And now I got to let this 8 last the
[4:13] Speaker 6: rest of my life, you know? Just because you don't know,
[4:15] Speaker 6: you don't have that backing. You didn't make the right
[4:18] Speaker 6: investments that you thought you were because we weren't paying attention.
[4:21] Speaker 6: they came in the meetings, we was like, mom, you
[4:24] Speaker 6: handle that. Somebody else, you handle that. I got practice,
[4:26] Speaker 6: so I want to go to sleep.
[4:27] Speaker 1: I'm tired.
[4:27] Speaker 6: So, you know, just being engaged as an athlete and
[4:30] Speaker 6: understanding that this is your money. Everybody's coming for you.
[4:34] Speaker 6: You made this money. So, you know, pay attention to it.
[4:37] Speaker 6: Take this shit seriously. That's what we.
[4:40] Speaker 1: Need to do. That's real talk. So I appreciate that
[4:43] Speaker 1: little spot. We appreciate you. You are a guest here.
[4:45] Speaker 1: You get to do whatever you want.
[4:47] Speaker 2: But for all the fans out there, we still have
[4:48] Speaker 2: two viewing options for you. Our traditional version, mobile vertical version.
[4:52] Speaker 2: Pick whichever one you want to watch. Just make sure
[4:54] Speaker 2: you watch the show. Here's what's cracking in the arena today.
[4:57] Speaker 2: I'm on that vibe already. The Lakers have won five
[5:01] Speaker 2: straight games, but are A.D. LeBron and the rest of
[5:03] Speaker 2: the Purple ready to be a legit top four team
[5:06] Speaker 2: in the West this season? Some people on this couch
[5:09] Speaker 2: think so, some don't. May not, but either way, we
[5:11] Speaker 2: will make them believers in the near future.
[5:13] Speaker 1: JJ Ray doing his thing. Keep that same energy. Keep
[5:16] Speaker 1: that same energy. That same energy.
[5:17] Speaker 5: That's all I know.
[5:18] Speaker 2: Brandon came back from Milwaukee letting us know we got
[5:20] Speaker 2: to keep that same energy.
[5:21] Speaker 1: Keep that same energy.
[5:22] Speaker 2: De'Aaron Fox scored 109 points in less than 24 hours.
[5:27] Speaker 2: But is the Kings Guard ready to jump back into
[5:29] Speaker 2: the All-NBA discussion? And the Cavs are the fourth team
[5:33] Speaker 2: in league history to start a season 15-0. The other
[5:36] Speaker 2: three teams all made the NBA Finals. Will the Cavs
[5:39] Speaker 2: keep the streak alive? Greg, I know you're a Cavs fan.
[5:42] Speaker 1: I am. We normally don't talk Cavs on this show,
[5:44] Speaker 1: but we had to do it in your honor. It's
[5:48] Speaker 1: LeBron Love.
[5:50] Speaker 4: They be hatin'. Now you a Cavs fan.
[5:52] Speaker 1: They be hatin'. Now you a Cavs fan.
[5:53] Speaker 3: There's somebody that they just diabolically hate.
[5:57] Speaker 5: Dude, the Cavs are the Atlanta Hawks when they won
[5:59] Speaker 5: all those games.
[5:59] Speaker 1: That's all they are. They're the Atlanta Hawks.
[6:01] Speaker 4: Do you see your face?
[6:02] Speaker 1: What are we talking about? They're the Atlanta Hawks. Look
[6:04] Speaker 1: at your face. Look at your face, Greg. The Cavs
[6:06] Speaker 1: are the Atlanta Hawks. That's how we all feel. They're
[6:07] Speaker 1: the Atlanta Hawks. When the Atlanta Hawks win that run,
[6:09] Speaker 1: that's who they are.
[6:10] Speaker 3: But we realized how he was hating on Cleveland like this.
[6:12] Speaker 1: What do you mean hating on Cleveland? I would hate.
[6:14] Speaker 5: I just said the main guy. First of all, the
[6:17] Speaker 5: team is good.
[6:17] Speaker 3: Get your story right. Get your story right. Just take
[6:20] Speaker 3: a breath.
[6:20] Speaker 5: Yeah, Donovan Mitchell is not a number one option on
[6:22] Speaker 5: the championship team.
[6:24] Speaker 1: Oh. 15-0.
[6:26] Speaker 3: Greg, you heard what he said.
[6:27] Speaker 1: He's standing on it.
[6:28] Speaker 6: Don't you see a Donovan Mitchell commercial like every other
[6:32] Speaker 6: sports commercial?
[6:33] Speaker 1: What commercial? Adidas. Adidas. Are you serious? Take you a sip. Adidas?
[6:39] Speaker 1: He's here. Let's go.
[6:40] Speaker 4: He's here.
[6:40] Speaker 1: Let's go. He's here. Mr. B is back and he's
[6:43] Speaker 1: a brand new outlaw right over there. Let's go.
[6:49] Speaker 4: Huh?
[6:49] Speaker 1: Let's go. I live in Ohio.
[6:51] Speaker 6: I am a Cavs fan because they definitely let me
[6:54] Speaker 6: come up there for about 30 bucks and.
[6:56] Speaker 1: Just threw me around.
[6:58] Speaker 6: When LeBron left, but they treated me well. Man, the Cavs,
[7:01] Speaker 6: this is a great organization.
[7:03] Speaker 5: No, for sure. I'm not hating on the organization.
[7:06] Speaker 3: Of course, the Cavs.
[7:07] Speaker 5: I'm not hating on anyone. I'm just saying, Donovan Mitchell,
[7:09] Speaker 5: he isn't a number one option on the championship.
[7:11] Speaker 1: Their team is good. But they got four All-Stars. Donovan
[7:14] Speaker 1: Mitchell said, were you... Have you been.
[7:20] Speaker 1: A number one option on a championship team? Yeah, for sure.
[7:23] Speaker 4: Then he said, if you said that, can you guard
[7:26] Speaker 4: him if y'all play one-on-one?
[7:27] Speaker 1: Right now?
[7:28] Speaker 5: I mean, no, not right now.
[7:30] Speaker 1: Oh, come on, Mr. B.
[7:33] Speaker 5: I mean, we don't play the same position.
[7:34] Speaker 1: Yeah, y'all do. Y'all play guard. Y'all play shooting.
[7:37] Speaker 3: You think you're going to dunk?
[7:38] Speaker 1: You think you're going to dunk? Wow, Mr. B. You're
[7:40] Speaker 1: going to dunk this? Y'all see him dunk.
[7:42] Speaker 4: You're going to dunk this on the.
[7:44] Speaker 1: It's too late. Switch. How am I dunking? And I lied.
[7:46] Speaker 1: I lied. I lied, Don. I know he didn't. I
[7:49] Speaker 1: know he didn't. I know he didn't. I know he didn't.
[7:52] Speaker 5: I know he didn't.
[7:53] Speaker 1: I know he didn't. I know he didn't. So you
[7:55] Speaker 1: should have been both? Hell yeah. I know why he
[7:57] Speaker 1: playing good. Why? Because he good? I heard who he dating.
[8:02] Speaker 3: Oh, God.
[8:04] Speaker 1: I didn't hear who he dating. But you don't know
[8:06] Speaker 1: why the Bucs are losing.
[8:08] Speaker 3: You know why we win, but you don't know why
[8:10] Speaker 3: the Bucs are losing.
[8:10] Speaker 5: No, but listen, if he's dating Coco Jones, I.
[8:13] Speaker 1: Get it, brother. Wait, he dating Hillary? I get it.
[8:16] Speaker 1: Is that Hillary for real? No, no.
[8:19] Speaker 5: I don't know if they're dating, but I'm saying I
[8:21] Speaker 5: heard he was dating Coco Jones.
[8:22] Speaker 1: If that's why, oh, I get it, brother.
[8:25] Speaker 6: That's Hillary Banks from the new Bel Air.
[8:28] Speaker 1: Oh, you said New York. I was like, oh. No,
[8:31] Speaker 1: I heard the rumor.
[8:32] Speaker 5: I don't know, but if that's true, shit, I see
[8:34] Speaker 5: why you hooping. Shit, I get it, brother. I ain't
[8:36] Speaker 5: going to say nothing.
[8:38] Speaker 1: I thought y'all were talking about Karen Parsons.
[8:40] Speaker 5: I'm about to go ahead and take my statement back.
[8:42] Speaker 1: I'm about to just be honest.
[8:43] Speaker 4: Man, he's... Because when he wasn't dating, he was averaging 28, 5, 5, 26.
[8:49] Speaker 1: Yeah, that's fine.
[8:50] Speaker 5: But 15 and 0, though, that means I'm going to,
[8:53] Speaker 5: I mean, he going home, you know, nice.
[8:56] Speaker 1: I'm good. Switching his stance. I'm not switching. He got to.
[8:59] Speaker 1: I'm not switching. He has to. You're saying this shit
[9:02] Speaker 1: in real time. I can say if the rumors are true,
[9:05] Speaker 1: I get it, brother. I get it.
[9:07] Speaker 5: Oh, no, they're not winning at all. Listen, they're the
[9:08] Speaker 5: Atlanta Hawks.
[9:09] Speaker 4: Brother, brother, when are the Atlanta Hawks?
[9:11] Speaker 5: Yeah, when the Atlanta Hawks win all those games, that's
[9:13] Speaker 5: who they are.
[9:14] Speaker 1: Brother, brother.
[9:15] Speaker 6: So you mean for the next couple of years, they're
[9:17] Speaker 6: not going to play?
[9:17] Speaker 5: Listen, they'll lose December 1st against Boston. I already checked
[9:20] Speaker 5: the schedule. I saw it.
[9:22] Speaker 1: So you're playing on a downfall. Of course. Of course.
[9:26] Speaker 1: Don't play on a downfall. Of course. Play on your upright. No,
[9:30] Speaker 1: I don't want to retract. No. No, you're upright.
[9:34] Speaker 3: No, you got to.
[9:35] Speaker 1: You're not?
[9:36] Speaker 5: The Cavs are going to lose December 1st against.
[9:39] Speaker 3: How much is Donovan Abbott?
[9:40] Speaker 1: They play the Celtics tomorrow, Mr. B.
[9:42] Speaker 5: Yeah, but that's like a cup game though, right?
[9:44] Speaker 1: They don't matter.
[9:45] Speaker 4: It's a game.
[9:46] Speaker 1: No, it doesn't. No, it doesn't.
[9:47] Speaker 5: It doesn't count to the record. It does.
[9:50] Speaker 1: It's a game. NBA cup games count for the record. No, no.
[9:52] Speaker 5: I'm talking about December 1st when they play Boston in
[9:55] Speaker 5: a regular season game. That's what counts. I'm not counting.
[9:58] Speaker 1: The Cup games. Hey, hey, hey. Hey, yes. That's why
[10:00] Speaker 1: you got the glasses on. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Hey, hey.
[10:02] Speaker 1: I'm talking about Milwaukee. Wee!
[10:05] Speaker 4: I'm still in the water.
[10:08] Speaker 1: Hey, this right here, this must be some good shit, boy.
[10:10] Speaker 1: I'm just saying y'all know. You're delusional. I don't want that.
[10:13] Speaker 1: Y'all really believe that? Boy, you're delusional, boy.
[10:15] Speaker 5: That's good.
[10:16] Speaker 1: That delusional juice.
[10:17] Speaker 2: Well, look, we're going to talk Cavs later in the show.
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[10:48] Speaker 1: It's already started. It's already started.
[10:50] Speaker 3: I've been practicing. No, that ain't right.
[10:54] Speaker 1: Do it again. Do it again. Do it again. They
[10:56] Speaker 1: ain't even got to speed it up. He just got it, dude.
[10:59] Speaker 1: Micro Machines, man. Say it fast right here.
[11:01] Speaker 4: Come on, Josiah.
[11:02] Speaker 1: You got it. You can do it. I'm trying my best.
[11:05] Speaker 2: But before we get into basketball, we got to talk
[11:06] Speaker 2: about another big event happened this weekend.
[11:09] Speaker 1: So all eyes were on Jerry World this.
[11:11] Speaker 2: Past Friday for the Mike Tyson versus Jake Paul fight.
[11:14] Speaker 2: More than 60 million people legally tuned in for the fight.
[11:17] Speaker 2: And I'm going to say at least 60 more illegally
[11:19] Speaker 2: because they had buffering issues, all types of stuff going on.
[11:24] Speaker 1: Dealt with that throughout the.
[11:25] Speaker 2: Evening, along with Tyson exposing his bare butt cheeks to
[11:28] Speaker 2: the viewing audience during a pre-fight interview, foreshadowing what was
[11:32] Speaker 2: to come because the fight would prove to be ass.
[11:36] Speaker 2: It went all eight rounds, each shortened to two minutes
[11:39] Speaker 2: instead of the traditional three with the boxers using 14-ounce
[11:42] Speaker 2: gloves instead of the standard 10-ounce gloves, and ended with
[11:45] Speaker 2: Jake Paul winning by unanimous decision against the 58-year-old Tyson.
[11:49] Speaker 2: So Tyson looked like a shadow of his former self,
[11:51] Speaker 2: battling a knee injury, and it was appearing to take
[11:53] Speaker 2: it easy on the 28-year-old Paul. We saw that jab
[11:56] Speaker 2: in the first round. Jake Paul was like, slow down.
[11:58] Speaker 2: This wasn't in the agreement. We got to keep it going.
[12:01] Speaker 2: But Jake Paul now 11-1 with his only loss coming
[12:04] Speaker 2: from Tommy Fury. So Tyson reportedly walked away with $ 20 million,
[12:08] Speaker 2: which is a solid bag to take an L. And
[12:10] Speaker 2: after losing to Paul, Tyson reflected on the fight with
[12:13] Speaker 2: the following tweet. He said, this is one of those
[12:16] Speaker 2: situations when you lost but still won. I'm grateful for
[12:19] Speaker 2: last night. No regrets to get in the ring one
[12:22] Speaker 2: last time. I almost died in June, had eight blood transfusions,
[12:26] Speaker 2: lost half my blood and 25 pounds in hospital, and
[12:29] Speaker 2: had to fight to get healthy to fight so I won.
[12:31] Speaker 1: To have my.
[12:32] Speaker 2: Children see me stand toe to toe and finish eight
[12:35] Speaker 2: rounds with a talented fighter half my age in front
[12:37] Speaker 2: of a packed Dallas Cowboy Stadium is an experience that
[12:40] Speaker 2: no man has the right to ask for.
[12:42] Speaker 4: Thank you.
[12:44] Speaker 1: Shut up, Mike. Yeah, we know he didn't write it, but.
[12:47] Speaker 4: I didn't mean to say that.
[12:50] Speaker 1: Final! Final! My back. I broke my back. Final!
[12:56] Speaker 3: I think I broke my back again.
[12:58] Speaker 1: We know he didn't write it. So, get on our
[13:00] Speaker 1: show Thursday.
[13:01] Speaker 2: You predicted the fight would go the distance that Tyson
[13:04] Speaker 2: had financial motivations to not knock out Paul. and to
[13:07] Speaker 2: stretch this thing as long as possible. We saw that,
[13:10] Speaker 2: so I just want to get everybody's opinion on the couch.
[13:12] Speaker 1: You saw the fight? I did.
[13:13] Speaker 2: What were your thoughts on the Mike Tyson, Jake Paul fight?
[13:16] Speaker 1: Well, first off, I was like, is that a man's ass?
[13:22] Speaker 1: That's the first thing. Double-cheeked up on a Friday. Also,
[13:26] Speaker 1: Roy Jones Jr. was having me dying. Hey, I don't
[13:31] Speaker 1: like Mike's legs. No, like this.
[13:34] Speaker 6: But, you know, I agree with it because I got
[13:36] Speaker 6: bad knees. And Mike over there, I was like, you
[13:39] Speaker 6: can get a better brace, nigga. You got a copper
[13:41] Speaker 6: fit on.
[13:42] Speaker 1: Like, what's going on right now? When you get the brace, bro.
[13:48] Speaker 1: No stability. I felt for him. I was like, oh,
[13:52] Speaker 1: Mike got to run.
[13:53] Speaker 6: He got to be in shape. But, you know, Jake Paul,
[13:57] Speaker 6: he was nice. He didn't knock him out, which I
[13:59] Speaker 6: thought he could have and had the opportunity in rounds. Four, five, six, seven, eight. But,
[14:07] Speaker 6: you know, I enjoyed it. Spent time with my wife.
[14:09] Speaker 2: We saw the pre-fight videos of Tyson training. Still looking
[14:13] Speaker 2: like a pit bull. Putting in work. Hand speed was
[14:16] Speaker 2: still there. You know, still looking like he could molly-wop
[14:18] Speaker 2: Jake Paul.
[14:19] Speaker 1: Yeah. But, Brandon, you watched the fight. What did you think?
[14:23] Speaker 5: I mean, to see a 58-year-old man go eight rounds,
[14:25] Speaker 5: I mean, it's amazing. I mean, regardless of what it is,
[14:28] Speaker 5: I mean, I get it, but... I mean, just the
[14:31] Speaker 5: fact that he got out there and... Like, just in general,
[14:33] Speaker 5: like in life, we don't know what.
[14:34] Speaker 1: People go through.
[14:35] Speaker 5: So the fact that he went through all that things
[14:37] Speaker 5: in life and still was able to get out there.
[14:38] Speaker 1: Eight blood transfusions, according to Tyson. I mean, you know.
[14:42] Speaker 1: Hold on.
[14:44] Speaker 6: 58-year-old man, I'm sorry. You did a good job, Mike Tyson.
[14:48] Speaker 6: How dare you go? Just straight nice. You got to
[14:51] Speaker 6: talk shit about that, because we was watching that shit.
[14:54] Speaker 1: The what? I'm talking shit, making jokes, and then you go... oh,
[14:58] Speaker 1: it was 58-year-old man, so I need to get my, Mike,
[15:01] Speaker 1: I'm sorry.
[15:03] Speaker 3: I'm so sorry.
[15:04] Speaker 1: I was like, damn, I thought there was different energy
[15:06] Speaker 1: right now.
[15:07] Speaker 5: I mean, you got Mike still getting out there. You
[15:09] Speaker 5: got Jay-Z still rapping at 50. It's like, you know,
[15:11] Speaker 5: it's just different. The old heads are just like, yo,
[15:14] Speaker 5: I'm not letting go.
[15:15] Speaker 3: You got it. I'm just not like, I'm still. Is
[15:18] Speaker 3: that good for it or bad for it?
[15:22] Speaker 5: I think it don't matter.
[15:23] Speaker 1: Yeah.
[15:23] Speaker 4: I'm just asking questions.
[15:24] Speaker 1: You know why?
[15:25] Speaker 3: Is it entertainment or is it still what we thought
[15:28] Speaker 3: it was when we.
[15:28] Speaker 1: Got into it?
[15:29] Speaker 5: I mean, well, Mike doing that interview and he's saying
[15:32] Speaker 5: your legacy don't matter.
[15:33] Speaker 1: Exactly.
[15:34] Speaker 3: That's what I was setting you up for. I was
[15:36] Speaker 3: setting you up for that. I knew he was going
[15:39] Speaker 3: to lose the match when I seen that interview.
[15:41] Speaker 1: Yeah, it don't matter.
[15:42] Speaker 5: Your legacy don't matter. I don't know.
[15:45] Speaker 3: Your legacy don't matter. To him, that was real. Charlie
[15:48] Speaker 3: Wilson is still out here singing.
[15:49] Speaker 1: Like, still getting it. Hit records.
[15:51] Speaker 3: But to Mike, he's like, yo, why?
[15:52] Speaker 1: I'm just saying, like, the old heads are still going.
[15:54] Speaker 1: Mike's like, why?
[15:55] Speaker 3: He's like, I'm about to get this bag. I don't
[15:57] Speaker 3: care about my legacy. Don't mean nothing to you, little girl.
[16:01] Speaker 3: I'm talking to a little girl. She's looking for inspiration.
[16:04] Speaker 3: She's like, I never heard anyone say anything like that before.
[16:09] Speaker 1: That is inspirational, right?
[16:11] Speaker 4: Thank you.
[16:12] Speaker 5: Do you think he was wrong? People say he got
[16:13] Speaker 5: to read the room. Do you think he was wrong,
[16:15] Speaker 5: or do you think that.
[16:15] Speaker 1: Was his real? No, he wasn't wrong because he followed
[16:17] Speaker 1: it up. He lost.
[16:20] Speaker 3: He took an L for his legacy. So now nobody
[16:23] Speaker 3: can't say nothing bad about his legacy. He just won
[16:26] Speaker 3: $ 20 million to last eight rounds with a 27-year-old YouTuber.
[16:31] Speaker 1: Turned boxer.
[16:32] Speaker 3: The bad thing about it is Jake Paul should be
[16:34] Speaker 3: fucking ashamed that he thinks he's a boxer after beating
[16:37] Speaker 3: somebody who's 58 years old.
[16:39] Speaker 5: I mean, I wouldn't even take in that. I wouldn't
[16:41] Speaker 5: even take in his win or anything. I just said
[16:43] Speaker 5: just watching Mike Tyson at 58. In the beginning, it
[16:46] Speaker 5: was looking like it was entertainment.
[16:48] Speaker 3: But you can't sit here and say it's boxing. Boxers
[16:51] Speaker 3: will get it. Boxers feel insulted. They're like, yeah, we
[16:54] Speaker 3: watched a boxing match.
[16:55] Speaker 1: Oh, no, it was pure entertainment. That's what I'm saying.
[16:58] Speaker 1: If it was entertainment, WWE, give me some excitement. I
[17:01] Speaker 1: need a knockdown. I need, you know, whatever. Give me
[17:04] Speaker 1: some big time. And that's the problem.
[17:07] Speaker 4: And just for Tyson's legacy, they should do a round
[17:19] Speaker 4: for us.
[17:21] Speaker 1: So people can see what Mike Tyson really is.
[17:24] Speaker 4: Yeah, but we would see in his training.
[17:25] Speaker 1: Like, we see how hard he punches.
[17:29] Speaker 4: We've watched this man his whole career. There's things that
[17:34] Speaker 4: just naturally happens in the fight because he's trained it
[17:39] Speaker 4: for so long. So when he duck, duck, his automatic.
[17:45] Speaker 1: Response is uppercut. Mm-hmm. We know that. We've watched this man.
[17:52] Speaker 1: So when he duck, duck, and he see you do this.
[17:56] Speaker 1: He's trying to grab. And he, instead of him.
[17:59] Speaker 4: Just hooking your rib or uppercut, he does the grab.
[18:04] Speaker 1: I know it's fake. Okay. Right? At this point in
[18:10] Speaker 1: Mike's career, you know it was an easy thing for him.
[18:14] Speaker 1: Throw money at.
[18:15] Speaker 4: Him and say, hey, listen, You can't knock me out
[18:20] Speaker 4: the first three rounds or you don't get paid. So
[18:23] Speaker 4: if this man trained and went all through these blood clocks,
[18:27] Speaker 4: obviously he's not going to knock you out in the
[18:28] Speaker 4: first three rounds because he wants to get paid. Then
[18:30] Speaker 4: you incentivize every round. So obviously, if we last the
[18:34] Speaker 4: whole thing, I get.
[18:35] Speaker 1: My whole bag. Now, we talk about $ 20 million is
[18:38] Speaker 1: what he's made.
[18:39] Speaker 4: Ah, cap, because obviously he knows it's going to last
[18:42] Speaker 4: the whole round, so I'm going to bet on myself.
[18:45] Speaker 1: I'm going to bet.
[18:45] Speaker 4: Jake Paul is going to last. That's why I bet
[18:47] Speaker 4: Jake Paul is going to last. I already know it
[18:52] Speaker 4: doesn't benefit Tyson to win. What does it do for
[18:54] Speaker 4: his legacy? You knocked out a YouTuber. There's no win
[18:56] Speaker 4: for him. He goes out there and knock him out.
[18:58] Speaker 4: There's no win for him.
[18:59] Speaker 1: So he's like, well, I'll.
[19:02] Speaker 4: Take a die.
[19:04] Speaker 3: I'll give you an extra $ 5 million if you last
[19:07] Speaker 3: pass four rounds.
[19:08] Speaker 1: Who?
[19:09] Speaker 3: He told Mike Tyson, I'll give you an extra $ 5
[19:11] Speaker 3: million if you last pass the fourth round.
[19:14] Speaker 1: It's last for Jake Paul.
[19:17] Speaker 3: So think about the gimmick of I'm throwing money out
[19:20] Speaker 3: here for the people to come watch because this is
[19:22] Speaker 3: how much money we actually have to throw around. We
[19:25] Speaker 3: got a lot of throw around money. We got guaranteed
[19:28] Speaker 3: 40 and 20 out the gate. That ain't all the incentives, right?
[19:33] Speaker 3: We're talking about obligations and all that stuff. But when
[19:35] Speaker 3: you talk about entertainment, Mike Tyson is an actor. They
[19:37] Speaker 3: said he couldn't even throw a hook. He's an actor.
[19:39] Speaker 3: He went around the world on a tour doing the
[19:42] Speaker 3: Tyson show.
[19:43] Speaker 4: Yes.
[19:43] Speaker 1: He was up on the stage. Yes, doing it.
[19:46] Speaker 3: He don't mind putting on a show.
[19:47] Speaker 1: Sounds the worst. I had a voice actor as well,
[19:49] Speaker 1: Mike Tyson. That's what I'm saying.
[19:50] Speaker 4: This isn't about his legacy because he knows me knocking
[19:53] Speaker 4: him out, what do I win here?
[19:55] Speaker 1: Nothing.
[19:56] Speaker 4: This man is giving me $ 20 million to perform, so
[19:59] Speaker 4: I'm going to perform. Same thing with the Roy Jones Jr.
[20:02] Speaker 4: People don't understand this. If you go back the timeline,
[20:06] Speaker 4: this is what happened. It was Mike Tyson versus Holyfield.
[20:12] Speaker 4: Holyfield watched a video of Mike Tyson and was like,
[20:16] Speaker 4: oh shit, I'm out.
[20:19] Speaker 1: He checked out of that fight. I'm good. Roy Jones
[20:22] Speaker 1: took the fight.
[20:24] Speaker 4: Someone told Roy Jones, yo, Tyson still actually hits like this.
[20:29] Speaker 4: So Roy Jones checked the fuck out. Then he convinced Mike, hey,
[20:33] Speaker 4: let's put these rules in.
[20:34] Speaker 1: You can't knock me down. You can't do this.
[20:36] Speaker 4: You can't be punched through. So you can hit me,
[20:40] Speaker 4: but you can't punch through, right? Now think about you
[20:43] Speaker 4: telling a dude he can't do certain things, right? Everyone
[20:47] Speaker 4: can laugh with Mike Tyson. If you can't punch through,
[20:50] Speaker 4: you can't knock me out, all we doing around there
[20:52] Speaker 4: is just walking around.
[20:53] Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, yeah.
[20:56] Speaker 1: It turned into WWE. Me, hell yeah. Come on, come on.
[20:59] Speaker 1: I can swing.
[21:00] Speaker 4: I ain't got to worry about shit because you can't
[21:02] Speaker 4: knock me out.
[21:03] Speaker 3: Nasty.
[21:04] Speaker 1: Jay Paul. Nasty. Jay Paul, listen. J-Paul did this once.
[21:10] Speaker 4: Oh, shit!
[21:11] Speaker 1: Yeah, of course, goddammit, because.
[21:14] Speaker 4: You felt the first hit, and he hit you, and
[21:17] Speaker 4: it kind of like, oh, shit. So what Mike Tyson
[21:19] Speaker 4: did is, when he was fighting against Roy Jones, just
[21:21] Speaker 4: natural things happened, and he hit Roy Jones with a
[21:24] Speaker 4: rib shot.
[21:24] Speaker 1: We all seemed like, oh, shit. Roy felt it like, ah.
[21:28] Speaker 4: And then from there, it's just, I'm not going to
[21:30] Speaker 4: hit through anymore. So an accidental hit from Mike Tyson
[21:35] Speaker 4: would have hurt him. So... He just don't throw punches.
[21:39] Speaker 4: That's why it looks so bad. I'm not going to
[21:41] Speaker 4: throw punches because an accident in a punch will fuck
[21:43] Speaker 4: this kid up.
[21:44] Speaker 2: To your point, Tyson landed 18 punches.
[21:47] Speaker 1: 18 punches. Landed 18 punches. On a YouTube. $ 1. 1 million
[21:50] Speaker 1: per punch. On a YouTube.
[21:52] Speaker 5: Yo, so if your legacy was Mike Tyson, would you
[21:58] Speaker 5: have done that fight?
[21:59] Speaker 1: Yeah.
[21:59] Speaker 4: This fight?
[21:59] Speaker 1: Yes.
[22:00] Speaker 4: Yes. This kid, you're giving me 20... Listen, you have.
[22:04] Speaker 1: To thank Jake Paul.
[22:07] Speaker 3: It doesn't hurt your legacy.
[22:09] Speaker 1: What is my legacy?
[22:10] Speaker 3: That's why he said the interview before he did it.
[22:12] Speaker 3: He's like, my legacy don't mean nothing.
[22:14] Speaker 5: I understand what he said, but if you have a
[22:16] Speaker 5: legacy like Mike Tyson, are you putting yourself in that
[22:19] Speaker 5: position just for $ 20 million?
[22:20] Speaker 1: Hell yeah. Is your legacy worth $ 20 million? No.
[22:23] Speaker 4: It is.
[22:24] Speaker 5: Obviously, it's putting your legacy. My legacy is bigger than
[22:28] Speaker 5: $ 20 million.
[22:28] Speaker 1: No, but it's not. You're putting your legacy up for value.
[22:30] Speaker 5: If I'm Mike Tyson, my legacy is bigger than $ 20 million.
[22:32] Speaker 1: Brad, I'll buy your legacy right now for $ 20 million. Listen, listen, listen.
[22:35] Speaker 1: Or Gil's money. That was a disrespect. No, basically. Right now.
[22:38] Speaker 1: Right now.
[22:40] Speaker 5: That's the one. You can't buy my legacy. So what
[22:43] Speaker 5: is your legacy? My legacy is forever.
[22:45] Speaker 1: What is it?
[22:47] Speaker 5: If it was something I could buy, what would you,
[22:49] Speaker 5: what is it? You can't buy my life. You can't
[22:50] Speaker 5: buy me.
[22:51] Speaker 1: You can't buy my life. It's easy to say that.
[22:52] Speaker 6: Yeah, but he showed both his, like, his daughter and
[22:55] Speaker 6: his son on the thing. Shit, 10 mil for them.
[22:58] Speaker 6: Fuck it. But you got to think about it.
[23:00] Speaker 1: Like, I'm a fan.
[23:01] Speaker 5: Mike Tyson's name itself is worth more than 10 mil.
[23:04] Speaker 3: So why would this affect it? How would this affect
[23:07] Speaker 3: it if it's already where it's at? You already bit
[23:09] Speaker 3: somebody's ear. You already been to jail. You already, you lost,
[23:12] Speaker 3: you lost a kid.
[23:13] Speaker 1: Yep.
[23:14] Speaker 3: Like, you've done things. He's already said, my life doesn't
[23:17] Speaker 3: mean nothing to me right now.
[23:19] Speaker 1: Yeah, but why, though?
[23:20] Speaker 3: Because it's all a part of his legacy. He don't
[23:23] Speaker 3: want that to be part of his legacy.
[23:25] Speaker 5: But it does matter, though. But it does matter, though.
[23:27] Speaker 5: Because after everything you've been through in your life, you're
[23:29] Speaker 5: still here because of God. So why would you say
[23:31] Speaker 5: your legacy is nothing?
[23:33] Speaker 4: Because the legacy is God's legacy, not yours.
[23:35] Speaker 1: That's why.
[23:36] Speaker 4: Like, remember, his fight, listen, what he did back then,
[23:40] Speaker 4: no one can die.
[23:41] Speaker 1: I mean, deny. Bad man, right? Right. One of the
[23:44] Speaker 1: scariest motherfuckers on this planet. Today. That don't mean nothing
[23:49] Speaker 1: to him.
[23:49] Speaker 4: So if this kid, this fan, his father is a
[23:53] Speaker 4: fan of mine, says, you'll give me $ 20 million to
[23:57] Speaker 4: spar with you? That's what this is. You'll give me, wait,
[24:01] Speaker 4: you will pump my name up, put me on billboards,
[24:04] Speaker 4: put me on YouTube.
[24:06] Speaker 3: Put me on Netflix, in a good light?
[24:09] Speaker 1: Mm-hmm. For $ 20 million? Sir, thank you. You're going to
[24:12] Speaker 1: give me the money to do it? You're going to
[24:14] Speaker 1: give me $ 20 million. I didn't have to pay for this.
[24:16] Speaker 1: You got to think about this.
[24:18] Speaker 4: Jake Paul don't have to do this for nobody. Like,
[24:21] Speaker 4: I can't even look down on Jake Paul. You have
[24:24] Speaker 4: the light, sir. And you are making people rich. You
[24:28] Speaker 4: made him $ 20 million. Man. You gave him money. You're
[24:33] Speaker 4: Don King to him.
[24:34] Speaker 1: Shout out Jake Paul. So if.
[24:36] Speaker 5: All money ain't good money.
[24:37] Speaker 4: It was for him. He ain't selling his soul. He's
[24:41] Speaker 4: sparring with a dude.
[24:43] Speaker 1: No, no.
[24:43] Speaker 3: He's doing what Floyd Mayweather does.
[24:47] Speaker 7: He did an exhibition fight with a YouTuber.
[24:51] Speaker 5: Floyd Mayweather would never sell his soul.
[24:52] Speaker 1: Whoa, no, no, no. I thought he did one already.
[24:56] Speaker 1: He's part of regular Japan, dude. What are you talking about?
[24:59] Speaker 1: Same thing. Regular Japan. What do you mean, how? I
[25:02] Speaker 1: get everything from that.
[25:03] Speaker 3: He retired.
[25:03] Speaker 1: They both retired.
[25:04] Speaker 5: Jake Paul made more money than Mike Tyson.
[25:07] Speaker 1: Ain't money.
[25:08] Speaker 5: They both made money. First of all, nobody who's fighting
[25:11] Speaker 5: against Floyd is making more money than him when he
[25:13] Speaker 5: get in the ring.
[25:13] Speaker 4: Don't matter. That's what I'm saying.
[25:15] Speaker 1: Don't matter.
[25:16] Speaker 5: Then I'm not getting in.
[25:18] Speaker 1: What the fuck?
[25:19] Speaker 5: Floyd Mayweather getting in the ring with somebody and then
[25:21] Speaker 5: they making more money.
[25:22] Speaker 1: Make it up.
[25:22] Speaker 4: Get the fuck out of here.
[25:23] Speaker 1: Who's that going to have?
[25:25] Speaker 5: Mike Tyson better be half that. He should have got
[25:28] Speaker 5: more than $ 20 million.
[25:29] Speaker 1: He did. $ 25 ain't enough. $ 25 ain't enough. It is enough.
[25:32] Speaker 3: It's enough when your ass is worth zero for the fight.
[25:34] Speaker 1: No, man. You're zero at this point. For 16 minutes?
[25:35] Speaker 1: 25 minutes? Zero.
[25:36] Speaker 4: What?
[25:44] Speaker 5: I got over $ 50 million.
[25:45] Speaker 1: If he was in there.
[25:47] Speaker 5: Mike Tyson is just a YouTuber giving me.
[25:49] Speaker 1: $ 20 million? I get it, but I'm still... A YouTuber?
[25:51] Speaker 1: Not a real boxer? Not a real boxer? A YouTuber
[25:53] Speaker 1: is helping me get $ 20 million.
[25:54] Speaker 5: I've been living since the 90s and ain't made $ 20
[25:56] Speaker 5: million since 95.
[26:09] Speaker 4: Are you telling me $ 20 million from a white boy
[26:12] Speaker 4: who thinks he's a boxer?
[26:13] Speaker 1: Hell yeah. He should have got more. I'll be like
[26:16] Speaker 1: Snake Eye.
[26:17] Speaker 4: He should have got more.
[26:18] Speaker 1: Can I say this, Gilbert? Can I say this? Floyd
[26:20] Speaker 1: Mayweather fought who?
[26:31] Speaker 5: I don't give a fuck who he fought.
[26:32] Speaker 1: You know who he fought?
[26:33] Speaker 5: I don't care who he fought. I know when he
[26:35] Speaker 5: get in that ring, I make the most money.
[26:36] Speaker 3: Logan Paul.
[26:38] Speaker 1: And I make more money.
[26:39] Speaker 6: Do you know that Floyd Mayweather fought Logan Paul?
[26:46] Speaker 3: I should put you in the body bag specifically for this.
[26:53] Speaker 1: And I should eat you with this bag. You're just
[26:56] Speaker 1: talking loud. Oh, you just said he doesn't fight a youtuber.
[27:00] Speaker 1: He did it for this brother. Okay, okay who made
[27:03] Speaker 1: the most money? Mayweather exactly. That's my point.
[27:06] Speaker 5: You're just talking you just fucking you just talk.
[27:10] Speaker 1: With the biggest runner boy Mayweather.
[27:11] Speaker 3: Biggest draw boy with this fight Jake Paul Jake I
[27:15] Speaker 3: got your hat.
[27:23] Speaker 1: I got your hat, Knight. Remember that? I remember that.
[27:25] Speaker 1: Jake Paul did that. I got your hat.
[27:27] Speaker 3: He made the fight name on his brother. He doing
[27:30] Speaker 3: little antics.
[27:31] Speaker 1: That don't make the.
[27:32] Speaker 4: Who was the biggest draw on this fight then?
[27:35] Speaker 1: It should have been Mike Tyson. But it wasn't. Okay,
[27:39] Speaker 1: that's all. Nigga! If Floyd Mayweather was fighting him, who's
[27:43] Speaker 1: the bigger draw? If who was fighting?
[27:44] Speaker 5: If Floyd Mayweather is fighting Jake, who's going to be
[27:46] Speaker 5: the bigger draw?
[27:47] Speaker 1: Floyd. That's my point. Floyd. Mike Tyson should be looking
[27:50] Speaker 1: at the stage.
[27:51] Speaker 5: If Mike Tyson's a legend and one of the best
[27:54] Speaker 5: boxers in the world, I got to look at myself
[27:55] Speaker 5: like that.
[27:56] Speaker 1: He's 58. He's been deactivated.
[27:58] Speaker 3: What are you talking about?
[27:59] Speaker 4: When he was the biggest draw on Roy Jones, he
[28:02] Speaker 4: made more money than Roy Jones.
[28:03] Speaker 5: What I'm saying is he's downplaying his legacy. He's downplaying
[28:08] Speaker 5: his legacy is what I'm saying. I'm never downplaying my
[28:10] Speaker 5: legacy if I'm a person like Mike Tyson.
[28:13] Speaker 1: He fought Roy Jones Jr.
[28:14] Speaker 4: How is he downplaying his legacy? He got paid $ 10
[28:17] Speaker 4: million to fight Roy Jones.
[28:18] Speaker 5: How is he downplaying my legacy?
[28:21] Speaker 4: He got paid $ 20 million to fight a YouTuber.
[28:23] Speaker 5: Did y'all see how many boxers was mad?
[28:25] Speaker 1: Ten more million. Ten more million. How many boxers was mad?
[28:29] Speaker 4: Come on, man.
[28:31] Speaker 1: How many boxers was mad that he got in there?
[28:33] Speaker 5: Who? How many boxers was mad that the whole fight happened?
[28:35] Speaker 1: It was a lot. A lot. Exactly. You know why?
[28:38] Speaker 1: I'm going to say zero. They didn't get the call.
[28:43] Speaker 1: They didn't get the car. That's not it. You ain't
[28:45] Speaker 1: called me. That's not it. But Barrington looked in shape.
[28:49] Speaker 1: Was it Riddick Bowe? Everybody looked in shape. Respect the legacy.
[28:52] Speaker 1: God damn it. That should be me. $ 20 million. Look
[28:55] Speaker 1: at his knees.
[28:56] Speaker 4: Look at his knees.
[28:57] Speaker 1: I got paid 50 grand. I got paid 50 grand.
[28:59] Speaker 1: I got paid 50 grand.
[29:01] Speaker 4: I got paid 50 grand. I got paid 50 grand.
[29:03] Speaker 4: Look at his knees. I don't like his knees.
[29:07] Speaker 3: Man, you gotta respect the legacy.
[29:09] Speaker 1: You gotta respect what you did.
[29:10] Speaker 4: He got paid 50 grand to talk about his knees.
[29:13] Speaker 1: I gotta say this.
[29:14] Speaker 6: We literally watched Mike Tyson's knockout in real life.
[29:17] Speaker 1: Yes. I was watching that, and I was like, is
[29:19] Speaker 1: this a video game? This is a video game. He
[29:22] Speaker 1: looked bigger than what he is, but no, you gonna
[29:24] Speaker 1: get up in there and knock him down. Mike really
[29:25] Speaker 1: got paid for it, but it knocked him out.
[29:26] Speaker 2: So we asked the chat, would you sell your legacy
[29:28] Speaker 2: for $ 20 million? 70% said yes.
[29:32] Speaker 4: All right.
[29:33] Speaker 1: The 30%, y'all broke. Y'all already know y'all can't sell
[29:35] Speaker 1: your legacy for shit.
[29:36] Speaker 5: 20 million I mean the legacy that I have right
[29:38] Speaker 5: now right now absolutely Mike Tyson's legacy is worth over
[29:41] Speaker 5: 100 million if Kai wanna play me one on one
[29:44] Speaker 5: right now for 100 grand I lost I mean.
[29:51] Speaker 1: That's not the same thing. That's not the same thing.
[29:53] Speaker 5: That's not the same thing.
[29:54] Speaker 1: I'm shooting like Mikael Bridges on this bitch. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
[29:57] Speaker 8: Yeah.
[29:57] Speaker 4: Damn, what happened to Gil Jumper?
[30:00] Speaker 3: Hold on.
[30:01] Speaker 1: This cost a hundred grand. I ain't even going there.
[30:04] Speaker 1: I ain't even going there.
[30:05] Speaker 4: That shit broke for a hundred grand.
[30:07] Speaker 1: Put it up.
[30:07] Speaker 5: Mike Tyson should have got 50 million.
[30:09] Speaker 7: Mike Tyson should have got 50 million.
[30:10] Speaker 1: What you mean?
[30:11] Speaker 6: For 25, I would have gotten knocked out. I would
[30:12] Speaker 6: have been practicing that shit.
[30:15] Speaker 1: I would have told him. I'm just saying he should
[30:18] Speaker 1: have got more. He should have got more. Hey, Jake Paul,
[30:21] Speaker 1: for 50, you can knock me out first round. What?
[30:28] Speaker 4: You know how big Jake Paul would have been if
[30:30] Speaker 4: he would.
[30:31] Speaker 1: Have came in here and hit the Mike Tyson?
[30:32] Speaker 4: Got his ass out 30 seconds.
[30:35] Speaker 1: What?
[30:35] Speaker 4: Jake Paul would have been sitting there doing this shit
[30:38] Speaker 4: right here.
[30:39] Speaker 5: Jake Paul ain't making more money than me if I'm
[30:41] Speaker 5: Mike Tyson.
[30:41] Speaker 1: I don't care. This is my sport.
[30:42] Speaker 5: This is what I do.
[30:43] Speaker 1: No, this is what you did. No, no, this is
[30:45] Speaker 1: what I do. No, no, no. I still do. I
[30:48] Speaker 1: still do.
[30:48] Speaker 3: I still do.
[30:49] Speaker 1: Hey, hey, there's a new king.
[30:52] Speaker 4: There's a new king. This is the only man who
[30:55] Speaker 4: can say, hey, Tyson Fury, me and you fight. I
[31:01] Speaker 4: can get you $ 50 million on your next fight.
[31:04] Speaker 1: Right now. Right now.
[31:05] Speaker 3: What's up?
[31:05] Speaker 4: He can't get $ 50 million on no fight right now.
[31:08] Speaker 4: Jake Paul can get him $ 50 million.
[31:10] Speaker 3: Because of my legacy?
[31:11] Speaker 4: You're going to say no?
[31:12] Speaker 5: I'm not going to get in the ring and just tap.
[31:15] Speaker 3: Around for $ 50 million.
[31:16] Speaker 1: This is bullshit.
[31:17] Speaker 5: People who love boxing, this is bullshit.
[31:20] Speaker 1: Who cares?
[31:22] Speaker 5: Now you know how we feel about basketball.
[31:25] Speaker 1: You out there injured all the time. You ain't playing.
[31:27] Speaker 4: You getting paid $ 50 million a year.
[31:30] Speaker 5: That's not the same.
[31:31] Speaker 1: Yeah. I would do that.
[31:32] Speaker 3: You just out there rehabbing. You out there rehabbing for
[31:36] Speaker 3: $ 50 million a year.
[31:36] Speaker 1: You don't take that, right? Telling your soul is easy, bro.
[31:43] Speaker 1: We see it a lot.
[31:44] Speaker 5: That's why y'all be getting the bare minimum.
[31:46] Speaker 3: Slap boxing.
[31:48] Speaker 1: Let's keep this thing going. I respect what he's saying
[31:51] Speaker 1: right now.
[31:51] Speaker 5: That's why you get the bare minimum in life.
[31:54] Speaker 2: Let's keep this thing moving. We got a lot of
[31:56] Speaker 2: basketball to talk about, but today's podcast is brought to
[31:58] Speaker 2: you by Maya Hemp.
[31:59] Speaker 3: That you would take the 300 over the 50.
[32:08] Speaker 1: Of course.
[32:08] Speaker 5: That don't mean I'm selling my soul.
[32:10] Speaker 1: Sell your soul for $ 300.
[32:10] Speaker 3: Bro, what are you talking about?
[32:13] Speaker 1: $ 300 or $ 30? $ 350.
[32:14] Speaker 5: I'm not selling my soul.
[32:16] Speaker 1: I work for that. Brother, you sold your soul to
[32:21] Speaker 1: the Bucks. No, I didn't. Play the video. They made
[32:25] Speaker 1: a fan. Boom.
[32:26] Speaker 3: They made a fan.
[32:28] Speaker 1: They made a fan. They made a fan. Dance. Dance.
[32:32] Speaker 4: Dance.
[32:32] Speaker 5: Dance.
[32:33] Speaker 2: Dance.
[32:33] Speaker 1: Dance. Huh? Your soul is out your body. Your soul
[32:39] Speaker 1: over here dead. Mr. 414, Mr. Bucks is sick. Every
[32:42] Speaker 1: time I come, it get cracking. Mr. Bucks is sick.
[32:46] Speaker 1: He sold his soul for a win in overtime against
[32:50] Speaker 1: the Troy Pistons. No, I didn't.
[32:51] Speaker 3: Hey, Portland, I'm out here.
[32:52] Speaker 6: Hey, I'll be on the sidelines dancing like a motherfucker.
[32:57] Speaker 1: 50 grand.
[32:57] Speaker 4: Hey, I thought you was going to pull out the
[33:00] Speaker 4: MC hammer on me.
[33:01] Speaker 5: Yeah.
[33:01] Speaker 1: I will. I will. I will. I will. I will.
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[34:50] Speaker 2: Well, let's let's talk some basketball. Most important team in
[34:53] Speaker 2: the NBA. Lakers have been on fire lately, as expected
[34:57] Speaker 2: by some on this couch. So after starting season four
[34:59] Speaker 2: and four, Purple and Gold has won five straight games,
[35:02] Speaker 2: including a win over the Spurs on Friday in their
[35:04] Speaker 2: first NBA Cup game and then following that up with
[35:07] Speaker 2: a win over the short staff Pelican squad.
[35:10] Speaker 1: In New Orleans Saturday. So let's take a look at
[35:12] Speaker 1: some highlights.
[35:13] Speaker 2: AD had another dominant game, this time against his former squad,
[35:17] Speaker 2: finishing with 31 points, 14 rebounds, two steals and a block.
[35:20] Speaker 2: It was AD's eighth 30-point game this season, which is
[35:23] Speaker 2: tied with Tatum and LaMelo Ball for the most in
[35:25] Speaker 2: the league. So LeBron snapped his streak of four straight
[35:27] Speaker 2: triple-doubles on Saturday but came through with some big buckets
[35:31] Speaker 2: in the fourth quarter. And with Rui Hachimura sideline, Ricky
[35:34] Speaker 2: Dalton-Connect made his second straight start, dropping a career-high 37 points.
[35:39] Speaker 1: Oh, let's see it. Connect gang, connect gang. B-B-Bang.
[35:43] Speaker 2: You already know that Westside connect gang.
[35:46] Speaker 1: We see, oh, AD. Is that what y'all on it now?
[35:48] Speaker 1: That's his nickname. We're Lakers fans, man. We're just a support.
[35:53] Speaker 1: Get it on, man.
[35:54] Speaker 2: You know, LeBron playing in front of his namesake. Continuing
[35:58] Speaker 2: to dominate and do hard.
[35:59] Speaker 1: White to white, I love it.
[36:00] Speaker 2: So he knocked down this three with a little under
[36:02] Speaker 2: two minutes remaining to help the Lakers retake the lead.
[36:05] Speaker 1: And then, in the final moments... Uh-huh. Lakers up one.
[36:09] Speaker 1: My son watching. You know it. Your son is watching.
[36:12] Speaker 1: My son is watching. Brian hit a three to put
[36:15] Speaker 1: the Lakers up four.
[36:16] Speaker 4: No, no, no, no, no.
[36:17] Speaker 1: You're going to keep playing. Never mind. Don't do that.
[36:19] Speaker 1: We're going to get to it, Gil. We're going to
[36:20] Speaker 1: get to it. We're going to get to it.
[36:21] Speaker 2: Lake Show is now 9-4 in the season, currently sitting
[36:24] Speaker 2: at the fourth spot in the West. Gil, since you
[36:26] Speaker 2: are a Lakers supporter, not the hater, I'm going to
[36:29] Speaker 2: ask you first.
[36:30] Speaker 1: Yes.
[36:30] Speaker 2: From what you've seen so far this season, do you
[36:33] Speaker 2: believe the Lakers are a top-four team in the West?
[36:34] Speaker 1: Ain't question. Hey, quick question.
[36:37] Speaker 5: Hey, yo, did you see when they said who had
[36:39] Speaker 5: the best celebration in the NBA? Did you see that poll?
[36:43] Speaker 5: They had a poll about what player has the best celebration,
[36:46] Speaker 5: and they said that Night Night was the best one.
[36:48] Speaker 5: And then he started bringing that back out after that.
[36:50] Speaker 3: Well, that's... Did you see that? Just to remind folks.
[36:54] Speaker 1: I just had to.
[36:54] Speaker 5: You're trying to trigger me, bro. No, I'm just saying.
[36:57] Speaker 5: They had who had the best... Night Night is the best. Right,
[37:02] Speaker 5: but then, the next day, now he's starting to, like,
[37:04] Speaker 5: trying to show everybody.
[37:05] Speaker 1: Just a reminder. It's just a reminder. You're 22, almost
[37:09] Speaker 1: 40 years old.
[37:10] Speaker 4: Y'all got the, y'all hit the, the gritty.
[37:14] Speaker 5: I like the, I like the name.
[37:15] Speaker 1: Game time, game time.
[37:16] Speaker 4: I like the, I like the Mark Jackson though.
[37:18] Speaker 1: Shit though.
[37:19] Speaker 3: Wes Matthews.
[37:24] Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
[37:25] Speaker 1: He started that?
[37:27] Speaker 3: Yes.
[37:27] Speaker 1: He fucked the league up.
[37:28] Speaker 4: He fucked the league up.
[37:30] Speaker 1: That was the first. That was the first.
[37:33] Speaker 3: Hey, bro. Bullseye. And then he used to.
[37:37] Speaker 5: Always be like, ah.
[37:39] Speaker 1: Like Robin Hood.
[37:40] Speaker 3: Robin Hood messed up all basketball for.
[37:42] Speaker 1: About two years.
[37:43] Speaker 5: Yeah.
[37:47] Speaker 1: And he had to get back on defense. And he
[37:48] Speaker 1: had to get back. I don't know. The Mark Jackson
[37:52] Speaker 1: was cool, too, though. 2-0. And you got arrows coming
[37:55] Speaker 1: all through AAU. Yeah.
[37:56] Speaker 3: All through.
[37:58] Speaker 1: Like, seriously.
[37:59] Speaker 6: I did 1-3 in a pickup game. The guy was over.
[38:01] Speaker 6: And that bitch, nigga.
[38:04] Speaker 1: Yeah. Now, yeah.
[38:05] Speaker 3: That's Melo.
[38:06] Speaker 1: Melo. Melo should be number three. That's Melo. The three
[38:09] Speaker 1: was crazy. The three to the head was crazy, too, though.
[38:11] Speaker 1: To the dome. Oh, God. That was crazy. That was crazy.
[38:14] Speaker 3: Yeah, that was nasty.
[38:15] Speaker 5: This one was cool back in the day.
[38:16] Speaker 1: Yeah, that one. Knuckle up. Shout out West Coast. That
[38:18] Speaker 1: was the original right there. Shout out Bottom.
[38:20] Speaker 3: But D-Lo, D-Lo do got it. Cool Breeze and all that.
[38:24] Speaker 3: Ice and Vains, yeah. D-Lo do got the dice.
[38:28] Speaker 5: The Dame time was hard the way he did that.
[38:30] Speaker 3: Oh, Dame time, definitely top five.
[38:31] Speaker 5: Or what about the Gil?
[38:33] Speaker 1: Turn around on you. He only did it once. He
[38:35] Speaker 1: only did it once. Huh?
[38:37] Speaker 4: Oh, yeah, that was his.
[38:38] Speaker 1: Yeah, it was that one. Cook it. Yeah, cook it. Oh, yeah.
[38:41] Speaker 1: He used to run down court like that. Oh, yeah.
[38:44] Speaker 1: When he got hot?
[38:45] Speaker 3: Oh, he was like, oh, yeah.
[38:47] Speaker 1: You want to do the rice? He's hot in his motherfucking...
[38:50] Speaker 1: He's talking crazy. Oh, yeah. The chap pointed out the
[38:54] Speaker 1: Trey Young ice tray shiver. His whole entire game was
[38:58] Speaker 1: talking shit to him. Got him.
[39:02] Speaker 4: Got him.
[39:02] Speaker 5: Oh, no, the Trey Young in New York was.
[39:05] Speaker 1: You know, ice tray. Bird man.
[39:07] Speaker 3: Bird man.
[39:08] Speaker 1: But back to the topic at hand. Gil, from what you... Oh, wait,
[39:11] Speaker 1: hold on. I'm sorry. No, you're not.
[39:12] Speaker 6: When y'all was watching the Olympics, I ain't gonna lie
[39:14] Speaker 6: to you, I was in the airport. When that motherfucker
[39:16] Speaker 6: hit that three and did this shit, I damn near cried. Niggas,
[39:19] Speaker 6: tears came out. Y'all, that's American. I was over there like, hey,
[39:23] Speaker 6: on my life I was. Proud American right here.
[39:26] Speaker 1: American. I was in the airport like, this nigga, y'all
[39:29] Speaker 1: don't understand what this nigga did. nigga just did. We
[39:31] Speaker 1: all doing it. Hey. You year olds, get on the
[39:35] Speaker 1: bike here. Hey, you. You had to be there. That
[39:45] Speaker 1: was the coldest one. I'm sorry. It wasn't supposed to
[39:48] Speaker 1: be there.
[39:48] Speaker 3: It was over the world.
[39:49] Speaker 1: It wasn't supposed to be like that. What do you mean?
[39:52] Speaker 3: The Avengers versus.
[39:53] Speaker 1: We was winning. We was winning the whole game by
[39:55] Speaker 1: a lot. It was just.
[39:57] Speaker 4: When night-night comes, that means... You know what the Monstars were?
[39:59] Speaker 1: Goddamn it, it's over. Go to sleep.
[40:00] Speaker 3: Remember the Monstars? The Monstars before they become the Monstars?
[40:03] Speaker 1: That's who they.
[40:04] Speaker 3: They played the little Monstar dudes before they became the Monstars.
[40:08] Speaker 1: They played... And then cheered about it. A dominant... And
[40:10] Speaker 1: then cheered about it.
[40:11] Speaker 4: Like, look, they hadn't even sold the talent yet.
[40:13] Speaker 1: Let them steal the talent. Man, they had Whitney. They
[40:15] Speaker 1: had the blue dude. What you mean? They had the
[40:18] Speaker 1: blue dude. You're playing against worms and shit. They played
[40:21] Speaker 1: the baguette ballers.
[40:22] Speaker 4: A dominant French guard.
[40:23] Speaker 1: You barely win and be like, night, night. I don't
[40:26] Speaker 1: want to see that shit. Shot a dominant French guard
[40:28] Speaker 1: playing in their home country.
[40:29] Speaker 5: That was never what we were talking about. We said
[40:31] Speaker 5: if we put all the... He keeps trying to move
[40:33] Speaker 5: the goalposts.
[40:34] Speaker 1: You're right. You're right.
[40:35] Speaker 4: You're right.
[40:36] Speaker 1: You're right. You're right, my bad.
[40:37] Speaker 5: We said if they go by themselves, they're going to win.
[40:39] Speaker 1: Sam Cassell. You're right. You have no marbles. Big nuts.
[40:45] Speaker 1: Big nuts. You have no marbles.
[40:49] Speaker 3: Paolo, you have. All time.
[40:51] Speaker 1: That was an all-time pull. Unexpected. God bless you. That's
[40:54] Speaker 1: from Major League, too. I'm going to take a moment
[40:55] Speaker 1: to just praise you.
[40:56] Speaker 3: Brandon, what was that three-point celebration that Giannis did while
[40:59] Speaker 3: you were there?
[40:59] Speaker 1: You remember that one? The ice. Third leg. It was
[41:04] Speaker 1: third leg. It was the third. It was like. He
[41:06] Speaker 1: was doing a third leg. Yes. No, he wasn't. What
[41:12] Speaker 1: is going on? What is going on?
[41:14] Speaker 3: Here we go.
[41:14] Speaker 1: What did he just say? He said, what's the sign?
[41:16] Speaker 1: He said, what's the three-point sign? He said, yo. Tonight's
[41:19] Speaker 1: the night. All right. All right. You want this interview?
[41:39] Speaker 1: Move on. Move on, please. They're cooking me.
[41:41] Speaker 5: Move on.
[41:42] Speaker 1: Help. Help me. Help me. Help me. Help me, please.
[41:48] Speaker 1: Move on. Every day I question why I work on
[41:51] Speaker 1: this show. Every single day. Help me. I'm not getting
[41:53] Speaker 1: into this. Let's move. What type of question is that?
[41:56] Speaker 1: What was that? I don't know. He's looking at the
[42:00] Speaker 1: whole crowd. Let's move back to the topic at hand.
[42:04] Speaker 1: We took a nice deviation. Let's get back on track. See,
[42:08] Speaker 1: he never there when you need him, though. I'm here.
[42:10] Speaker 1: I'm moving on.
[42:12] Speaker 4: See how slow you're going?
[42:14] Speaker 1: Yeah, your dad told me. I ain't seen him in months. Josiah,
[42:17] Speaker 1: you seen me get cooking? I know your daddy, boy.
[42:20] Speaker 2: I ain't seen my dad in months, man. Y'all in Milwaukee,
[42:23] Speaker 2: hanging out with Darvin Hammond, Doc.
[42:25] Speaker 1: Damn. Don't do that. Gil, don't do it. Don't do that.
[42:30] Speaker 1: The word has already been put out, Gil.
[42:31] Speaker 5: Listen, all I'm going to say is, Darvaham told me,
[42:33] Speaker 5: y'all better keep that same energy.
[42:37] Speaker 1: When they start winning? No, no, no. When J.J.
[42:39] Speaker 5: Don't get it done, keep that same energy.
[42:41] Speaker 1: J.J.
[42:42] Speaker 5: Better get, and I'm saying this for Darvaham, J.J. better
[42:44] Speaker 5: get to the Western Conference Finals before y'all do.
[42:46] Speaker 1: All that talking. Every year. Every year? Every year. Just
[42:49] Speaker 1: keep that same energy. Wait, wait. I was talking about
[42:52] Speaker 1: how bad the coach was? Darvaham, yeah. Who would I
[42:54] Speaker 1: blame it on? Darvaham. Darvaham. Okay.
[42:57] Speaker 5: All he said was keep that same energy.
[43:01] Speaker 1: I'm just like, I'm a Laker fan. I'm not going
[43:03] Speaker 1: to blame the players. We need them.
[43:07] Speaker 2: Well, let's talk about the current regime under head coach J.J.
[43:11] Speaker 4: Redick.
[43:11] Speaker 2: Lakers 9-4 this season in the midst of a five-game
[43:14] Speaker 2: winning streak against some of the NBA's elite adjacent teams.
[43:17] Speaker 1: Elite adjacent.
[43:19] Speaker 2: Gil, from what you've seen so far this season, do
[43:20] Speaker 2: you believe the Lakers are a top-four team in the West?
[43:22] Speaker 1: Currently occupying the fourth spot in the West. Okay, we're
[43:24] Speaker 1: occupying the... What spot? Is that good enough, though? We're four, right? Four.
[43:30] Speaker 1: I'm good. One game out of.
[43:31] Speaker 4: Of course you are.
[43:33] Speaker 1: One win out of third?
[43:34] Speaker 4: Of course you are.
[43:35] Speaker 1: We're good.
[43:35] Speaker 5: But right now.
[43:37] Speaker 1: We had to lose, what, four in a row? Like
[43:39] Speaker 1: four out of our last five? Started 3-0, went 1-4,
[43:42] Speaker 1: and now going on a five-game win. Come on, man.
[43:44] Speaker 1: Not that I'm watching or anything like that.
[43:46] Speaker 6: Y'all talking really heavily about these Lakers win.
[43:49] Speaker 1: Yeah. They got a five-game win streak that was 4-4
[43:52] Speaker 1: at one point. That was in the past. They're just okay.
[43:55] Speaker 1: That was in the past.
[43:56] Speaker 3: It's not okay at all.
[43:57] Speaker 1: It's nasty.
[43:58] Speaker 6: They're just okay. Look, it's too early for me to
[44:01] Speaker 6: say anything.
[44:02] Speaker 1: Who got the longest streets right now? Cavs. And then
[44:05] Speaker 1: who's second? Exactly. Longest streak in the West. Touche, motherfucker.
[44:10] Speaker 6: Longest streak in the West.
[44:12] Speaker 3: But it's the same energy they had last year.
[44:13] Speaker 1: I mean, the East is easy, though. Definitely not. It's
[44:15] Speaker 1: the same energy you had last year. We have the
[44:16] Speaker 1: same energy every year. That's what we say. We were
[44:19] Speaker 1: not 94 last year after the 13th game. Wait, hold on.
[44:23] Speaker 1: Are we not talking about the Warriors? We're not talking
[44:26] Speaker 1: about the Warriors? You'll be here for most of the week.
[44:28] Speaker 1: It will come up as a topic of discussion at
[44:30] Speaker 1: some point. Why you got to bring them up? And
[44:33] Speaker 1: we are talking about the Warriors today, though.
[44:34] Speaker 5: LeBron, bro, LeBron keep getting older, and the fact that
[44:37] Speaker 5: the Lakers still top five at.
[44:38] Speaker 4: 30, like.
[44:41] Speaker 5: When Mike was playing, the Wizards wasn't... They were not.
[44:43] Speaker 5: It was supposed to be 30.
[44:47] Speaker 3: No superstar in this league has taken the challenge to
[44:50] Speaker 3: get LeBron out of this throne. No one has taken
[44:54] Speaker 3: the challenge to say your time is up. That means
[44:56] Speaker 3: the league is soft and it's weak. That means it's
[44:58] Speaker 3: a weak league.
[44:59] Speaker 1: Are we not talking about the Warriors? Kobe's line is gone.
[45:01] Speaker 1: I'm talking about the Warriors? We're talking about the Warriors.
[45:04] Speaker 1: Steph is literally like 40. No, it's Mike. He's 40.
[45:08] Speaker 1: More of a fluke than the Lakers.
[45:10] Speaker 3: He got four straight triple doubles in a young league
[45:12] Speaker 3: like this.
[45:13] Speaker 1: Light work. They should be embarrassed.
[45:15] Speaker 5: Remember when Mike was in the league and Kobe played again,
[45:17] Speaker 5: he gave Mike 55? Like, nobody's doing that to Brian.
[45:20] Speaker 3: No.
[45:20] Speaker 4: They're telling him to get off the court.
[45:22] Speaker 1: They're scared of Brian.
[45:22] Speaker 4: Get off the court, old man.
[45:23] Speaker 1: No, there's a difference.
[45:24] Speaker 5: No, they're scared of Brian.
[45:26] Speaker 1: I tried to.
[45:27] Speaker 3: Get off the court, old man.
[45:28] Speaker 1: The difference is.
[45:30] Speaker 4: Kobe was trying to prove a point, and the point
[45:33] Speaker 4: was I'm better than you. This is my time. So
[45:36] Speaker 4: I'm not going to settle. I'm not going to do it.
[45:38] Speaker 4: You're old, and I'm.
[45:39] Speaker 1: Going to use this against you. Nobody's sitting there 1-4 flatting. LeBron.
[45:44] Speaker 1: Because they scared.
[45:44] Speaker 4: If I'm Jason Tatum and he's guarding me, what's happening?
[45:49] Speaker 1: So I can show everybody you're old. Right now, no
[45:52] Speaker 1: one gets to show that he's old, so he still.
[45:53] Speaker 4: Look like he's going. But if you just sit there
[45:55] Speaker 4: and wait, hold on. You go down, you go down. One-on-one,
[45:59] Speaker 4: let me go. I'm going to blow by you every time.
[46:02] Speaker 4: Nobody has that mentality.
[46:04] Speaker 5: Because they're trying to be in business and do everything.
[46:06] Speaker 1: No, it's just they don't have that game. They wasn't
[46:08] Speaker 1: taught it.
[46:09] Speaker 5: They're scared.
[46:09] Speaker 3: They're scared.
[46:10] Speaker 5: They're scared.
[46:11] Speaker 3: Let's call it how it is.
[46:11] Speaker 4: No, they're scared.
[46:12] Speaker 1: They're scared to death. They want to be like, hey, Brian.
[46:15] Speaker 4: I want to come to your parties.
[46:16] Speaker 1: I want them to smile at me. Trust me. I
[46:17] Speaker 1: want an autograph. Please don't look at me.
[46:19] Speaker 3: Swap jerseys with them. It's like the rappers, how they
[46:21] Speaker 3: treat Jay-Z, bro. They came up in the sand.
[46:23] Speaker 1: The one thing I don't think y'all talking about is
[46:25] Speaker 1: the fact that they can't. They can't.
[46:27] Speaker 5: What do you mean they can't?
[46:27] Speaker 1: What do you mean they can't? Who can't?
[46:29] Speaker 3: Oh, no.
[46:29] Speaker 1: Come here. Come here, Brian. I'm about to go by
[46:31] Speaker 1: you and that motherfucker go. I'm going to walk.
[46:33] Speaker 4: Away just like that.
[46:34] Speaker 1: I'm Jason Taylor. I'm Jalen Brown. I'm Power Forward. Exactly. Hey, Brian,
[46:37] Speaker 1: I'm going to take that shit in the chair and
[46:39] Speaker 1: go by you. I'm Power Forward. I'm going to take
[46:41] Speaker 1: that shit in the chair and go by you. I'm
[46:42] Speaker 1: Power Forward.
[46:43] Speaker 4: I'm going to take that shit in the chair and.
[46:44] Speaker 1: Go by you. No, but I'm saying, you have to.
[46:49] Speaker 1: We're in the business of acceptance. But they can't. Wagner? No, no. Sabonis, baby?
[46:56] Speaker 1: It's them.
[46:57] Speaker 3: I don't want to hear that, man.
[46:58] Speaker 1: Wagner. And actually, you're right. It's got to be him
[47:01] Speaker 1: because these guards.
[47:02] Speaker 5: Are two-skinned guards. I love KD. I think he's one
[47:05] Speaker 5: of the greatest swords of everything.
[47:06] Speaker 1: KD knows Adam. But he was only at him when
[47:09] Speaker 1: he went to the Warriors. But he's older. So is he.
[47:12] Speaker 1: They both older.
[47:13] Speaker 5: But what I'm saying is when he had a chance
[47:15] Speaker 5: to knock Braun on his ass and be like, yo,
[47:17] Speaker 5: get the fuck out of here, boom, boom, he went
[47:19] Speaker 5: into the warrior.
[47:21] Speaker 1: Okay, name a four-man. Take Giannis out. Name a four-man
[47:25] Speaker 1: who's capable. Jason Tatum. Jason Tatum. Jason Tatum.
[47:30] Speaker 3: A four-man that's capable of giving him 50.
[47:33] Speaker 5: Jason Tatum.
[47:34] Speaker 1: Jalen Brown. Jalen Brown's a three, but Jason Tatum, okay.
[47:37] Speaker 1: Now name somebody else. He only plays him twice. Okay.
[47:41] Speaker 3: Paulo.
[47:42] Speaker 4: So you think Benchero can give.
[47:44] Speaker 1: He just had 50 this year. You think he's good
[47:47] Speaker 1: enough to give LeBron?
[47:48] Speaker 3: Yes.
[47:49] Speaker 4: LeBron don't play no defense.
[47:51] Speaker 1: I'll give Paulo that one. He may be a fan.
[47:54] Speaker 1: He can give him 50, yes. But think about LeBron.
[47:57] Speaker 1: That's his brute strength. Think about Benchero's game.
[48:04] Speaker 4: He tries to use a bully ball. He can't bully LeBron.
[48:08] Speaker 1: You have to be faster than LeBron. Nobody can bully LeBron.
[48:11] Speaker 1: That's what I'm saying.
[48:11] Speaker 4: So you have to be faster than him. There's nobody
[48:13] Speaker 4: in this position That's going to sit there and be
[48:17] Speaker 4: speed against him.
[48:18] Speaker 1: You know what?
[48:19] Speaker 6: I think Paolo is the only one that'll take that challenge.
[48:22] Speaker 6: When he's healthy, he'll be like, no, I'm gone.
[48:23] Speaker 4: Only Jason Tatum has the foot speed and lateral quickness
[48:26] Speaker 4: to just sit there and abuse him.
[48:28] Speaker 1: Ben Sherrill's going to try to... He don't have enough mood.
[48:30] Speaker 1: He don't have the foot speed.
[48:32] Speaker 3: I'm talking about the league taking this challenge.
[48:35] Speaker 1: Yeah, just in general.
[48:36] Speaker 4: Oh, you mean combined.
[48:38] Speaker 3: Y'all just laying down. Y'all laying down when he come through.
[48:41] Speaker 3: He come through the town. We playing LeBron tonight. Everybody's
[48:46] Speaker 3: not saying, oh, it's going to be a hard night tonight.
[48:48] Speaker 3: It's going to be more like, man, I wonder if
[48:50] Speaker 3: I can get a jersey signed.
[48:52] Speaker 1: Oh, no, no. No, preach, bro. No, preach.
[48:54] Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying? I wonder if this, I
[48:56] Speaker 3: wonder if that. It ain't no, man, let's gear up.
[48:58] Speaker 3: It's war ready. Man, it's truth.
[49:00] Speaker 1: What is truth? We in the trenches. Let's go. Hold on,
[49:02] Speaker 1: hold on. Kenyon right there. I remember a time when
[49:04] Speaker 1: you go LeBron older. I'm going to give him something
[49:06] Speaker 1: right here on the side real quick. I got to
[49:08] Speaker 1: give him something. He's 39. He's going to feel it
[49:10] Speaker 1: when he's done playing against me.
[49:11] Speaker 5: You don't think Paul George can give him 50?
[49:12] Speaker 4: I'm sorry.
[49:12] Speaker 1: You got to give him something, right? Every time.
[49:16] Speaker 5: Paul George, Anthony Edwards?
[49:17] Speaker 4: I mean, Anthony Edwards can, but he's not going to
[49:20] Speaker 4: guard Anthony Edwards.
[49:22] Speaker 3: We're talking about somebody who's going to guard him. That's
[49:24] Speaker 3: what I'm saying. But even getting him on the switch,
[49:26] Speaker 3: how bad would the Lakers be if you got LeBron
[49:29] Speaker 3: on the switch?
[49:29] Speaker 5: Why don't teams get LeBron on the switch every time? Like,
[49:32] Speaker 5: I'll just go at LeBron. I'm going to go at LeBron.
[49:34] Speaker 4: No, you got to mess up your whole, what I'm
[49:35] Speaker 4: saying is today, you got to mess.
[49:36] Speaker 1: Up your whole offense just to try to go at him.
[49:38] Speaker 3: Just to do that.
[49:38] Speaker 4: What I'm saying is there's nobody in his position where
[49:41] Speaker 4: he's guarding.
[49:41] Speaker 1: Me and I can just pop out on the ISO
[49:43] Speaker 1: and go. Like, there's no mellow. Remember, there's no mellowing today.
[49:48] Speaker 4: Like, oh, shit, bring your old ass over here.
[49:50] Speaker 5: You don't think Brandon Ingram can?
[49:52] Speaker 1: No.
[49:52] Speaker 5: Brandon Ingram, if he had a chance to go one-four
[49:55] Speaker 5: flat with.
[49:55] Speaker 3: Bron, he'd take it.
[49:56] Speaker 1: Every game, he don't have the mindset. What? To get 50.
[50:00] Speaker 5: What?
[50:01] Speaker 1: I mean, no, you might be right. I don't know.
[50:03] Speaker 1: To go at him? To go at LeBron? Yes. He
[50:06] Speaker 1: will go at him and give him 50. But think
[50:08] Speaker 1: about something.
[50:09] Speaker 5: I don't even think if you ask Brandon Ingram right now,
[50:11] Speaker 5: he'll be like, yo, you think you can give Bron 50?
[50:13] Speaker 5: I don't even think he'll say yes. I think he'll
[50:14] Speaker 5: be hesitating.
[50:16] Speaker 3: Because of the nice shit.
[50:18] Speaker 1: Because he wanted to be in a good group. Who
[50:19] Speaker 1: do you think in his position? Four men. That's what
[50:21] Speaker 1: I said. Nobody, right? That's what I said.
[50:23] Speaker 4: If you take Giannis, because the way Giannis plays, but
[50:25] Speaker 4: other than that, there's nobody. They don't have the mindset.
[50:28] Speaker 1: They don't have the.
[50:29] Speaker 3: Look at how they have to cover him by putting
[50:32] Speaker 3: him at the four where we know can't nobody guard
[50:36] Speaker 3: you at the four.
[50:37] Speaker 4: He is a fucking three.
[50:38] Speaker 3: So let's put him at the three and then you
[50:40] Speaker 3: name him all the threes that.
[50:42] Speaker 1: Can stop him. He's 39 years old, Sean. 39.
[50:45] Speaker 3: Now we're going back to all the excuses.
[50:47] Speaker 1: Senior citizen. No, no. That's not the point.
[50:49] Speaker 5: What we're saying is, why isn't nobody taking the challenge
[50:52] Speaker 5: like Kobe Bryant was at Mike?
[50:54] Speaker 1: Because. Like, guys were going at Mike. Because, no.
[50:56] Speaker 3: LeBron never got the opportunity. LeBron never got the opportunity.
[51:00] Speaker 3: I ain't a motherfucker 41. Bring your old ass out here.
[51:03] Speaker 3: LeBron never got the opportunity to push Kobe out.
[51:07] Speaker 1: True. Kobe didn't guard him.
[51:09] Speaker 3: He was supposed to push Kobe out. Kobe pushed Mike out.
[51:11] Speaker 3: He pushed, pushed Kobe out. Somebody pushed, pushed him out.
[51:13] Speaker 1: What was LeBron's record again? Kobe in the head to head.
[51:17] Speaker 3: He skipped it because Kobe didn't like that Lakers shit, man.
[51:21] Speaker 1: I can't push a guy. That's not my position. Why
[51:24] Speaker 1: do y'all do that? Stay where you at. Mike is
[51:27] Speaker 1: a shooting guard, right? Okay. Kobe is a what? Shooting guard.
[51:29] Speaker 1: Shooting guard. LeBron is a three.
[51:30] Speaker 4: That's a matchup that they have to go against.
[51:33] Speaker 1: LeBron is a three.
[51:33] Speaker 3: So you just moved LeBron to the four so he
[51:36] Speaker 3: can avoid the KD matchup. No, what I'm saying is
[51:38] Speaker 3: that's kind of. Because that's the matchup. KD's better.
[51:41] Speaker 1: What position is KD playing at? That's the matchup. KD's
[51:44] Speaker 1: the three. KD's better.
[51:45] Speaker 3: They both came in as what?
[51:47] Speaker 4: Three.
[51:48] Speaker 1: So that's what they are.
[51:49] Speaker 3: Now, so as threes, them two are the actual new matchup.
[51:53] Speaker 4: It ain't Kobe LeBron no more.
[51:55] Speaker 1: It's Kobe KD.
[51:56] Speaker 3: And I say KD's better.
[51:59] Speaker 1: So KD's the better guy.
[52:01] Speaker 3: And KD's got to push LeBron out for him to
[52:03] Speaker 3: get the guy.
[52:04] Speaker 5: He can't get him.
[52:05] Speaker 4: What position does LeBron, what position does KD play right now?
[52:08] Speaker 1: Three. He plays a four.
[52:09] Speaker 4: So then they both match up.
[52:11] Speaker 5: Yes.
[52:11] Speaker 4: So then you can't say nobody.
[52:12] Speaker 1: Well, first off, that's the four.
[52:13] Speaker 3: You can't say nobody then. What I'm saying is there's
[52:15] Speaker 3: a four. You can't say nobody then. You can say KD.
[52:18] Speaker 4: What? It matches up with LeBron at the four.
[52:20] Speaker 1: Yes, but why do you think they both move to
[52:22] Speaker 1: the four?
[52:23] Speaker 5: Because it's easier?
[52:25] Speaker 1: They both move because it's easier?
[52:27] Speaker 4: But KD ain't in his I'm trying to score 50-60
[52:30] Speaker 4: bag anymore.
[52:31] Speaker 3: Is LeBron? No.
[52:32] Speaker 1: All right, so they're both in the same level. But
[52:34] Speaker 1: when he was with the Warriors, he did that shit.
[52:37] Speaker 3: On who? On the cuffs.
[52:40] Speaker 1: Okay.
[52:41] Speaker 6: And I remember this because it was the coldest shit ever.
[52:42] Speaker 6: When that motherfucker came across half court and he hit
[52:45] Speaker 6: that shit. Do y'all remember the commercial? So I'm watching
[52:48] Speaker 6: that shit. I'm a cast fan. Motherfucker hit that shit.
[52:50] Speaker 1: Boom. Commercial. I was always number two.
[52:54] Speaker 3: Damn.
[52:55] Speaker 6: I was the second pick. I was over there getting chills, like, wait,
[52:58] Speaker 6: is this nigga talking.
[52:58] Speaker 1: To me right now? Wait, what the fuck is happening
[53:02] Speaker 1: right now?
[53:03] Speaker 2: But he did that shit. You were drafted first overall
[53:06] Speaker 2: by the Blazers 2007. KD was taken second by the Sonics.
[53:09] Speaker 1: Yes. There was no debate back at that point, though.
[53:13] Speaker 1: You were the dude. Like, I saw, you know what
[53:14] Speaker 1: I mean? Like, we got to give you a flower.
[53:16] Speaker 1: That commercial is cold in the world.
[53:18] Speaker 3: Hindsight, 2020. All I got to say is this. Brian
[53:22] Speaker 3: never got his get back on KD.
[53:25] Speaker 5: Well, I never got his get back on KD. What
[53:28] Speaker 5: KD did when he won the championship, right?
[53:31] Speaker 4: Which championship?
[53:32] Speaker 1: 2020, the Buffalo Bucks championship.
[53:36] Speaker 3: That wasn't on KD.
[53:37] Speaker 6: Okay, because everybody keep talking it's not basketball.
[53:40] Speaker 1: People was like, no, that shit was easy. It's an asterisk.
[53:42] Speaker 6: I'm like, no, you put every nigga and said, no,
[53:45] Speaker 6: you're going back to AAU. It's all basketball. Now who's
[53:49] Speaker 6: going to come out and be the best?
[53:50] Speaker 1: No crowd. Hey, hey, hey, I'll give you the answer.
[53:52] Speaker 3: No, I'll give you the answer. The team that's going
[53:55] Speaker 3: to come out victorious is the team with the most vets.
[53:58] Speaker 1: The most mentally strong team. Hmm? An ideal living. Say
[54:02] Speaker 1: it again. Mentally strong.
[54:04] Speaker 3: So let us name off the roster for that team.
[54:07] Speaker 1: Mentally strong. So you're. Okay. It don't count. This is like, nigga,
[54:11] Speaker 1: I need the strip club. I got to get out
[54:12] Speaker 1: of here. It don't count. No strip club shot. It
[54:14] Speaker 1: don't count. But it does count.
[54:17] Speaker 4: If it counts, you should.
[54:19] Speaker 1: Have won right after it.
[54:20] Speaker 3: Because if that was the hardest, it would be much
[54:22] Speaker 3: easier when we get back to the basics.
[54:24] Speaker 1: We'll have the same team. And you ain't been back since.
[54:27] Speaker 1: I don't want to hear this bullshit. This Laker bullshit.
[54:31] Speaker 1: That was the hardest.
[54:32] Speaker 4: I'm talking about it's so hard.
[54:34] Speaker 1: But then you never got back there. It should be
[54:36] Speaker 1: easy work. They broke the team up. It's not the
[54:39] Speaker 1: same team.
[54:41] Speaker 3: You still got the best to ever do it.
[54:45] Speaker 1: The fuck is wrong with him?
[54:47] Speaker 4: He lost his fucking weight.
[54:48] Speaker 5: So it's his fault? Is it his fault?
[54:53] Speaker 3: Give him the phone. So let's go.
[54:56] Speaker 2: Back to the Pelicans game Saturday night. Key moment in
[54:59] Speaker 2: the game we got to talk about. We showed it earlier. Gil,
[55:02] Speaker 2: you asked for the extended version. This is your show,
[55:04] Speaker 2: so we're going to give it to you. Just give
[55:07] Speaker 2: us one second to cue this video up. 37 seconds remaining.
[55:14] Speaker 2: LeBron hit a clutch three to put the Lakers up four.
[55:17] Speaker 2: Then proceeded to hit his silencer celebration. Brandon, like you mentioned,
[55:20] Speaker 2: he's bringing it back out. As LeBron made his way
[55:23] Speaker 2: back to the bench for a timeout, he was greeted
[55:25] Speaker 2: by his Lakers teammates, including Bronny, who did his version
[55:28] Speaker 2: of the silencer as well.
[55:31] Speaker 1: Boy, you look just like your daddy.
[55:34] Speaker 2: So LeBron is averaging 23 nine assists, nine rebounds on 51, 43,
[55:37] Speaker 2: 76 shooting splits. He also has five triple doubles through
[55:41] Speaker 2: his first 13 games, currently third in assists per game
[55:44] Speaker 2: behind Joker and Halliburton. But Gil, this is something we've
[55:46] Speaker 2: talked about, not only with Bron, but with Giannis and
[55:49] Speaker 2: Thanasis and just having that family dynamic, being away from
[55:52] Speaker 2: your family, playing in the league. Now LeBron getting to
[55:54] Speaker 2: play in front of Bronny. How much of LeBron's success
[55:56] Speaker 2: in year 22 has to do with him not wanting
[55:58] Speaker 2: to look washed in front of his son?
[56:07] Speaker 1: Did he look washed last year when his son wasn't there?
[56:09] Speaker 1: But that was a year... He's a year older, Gil.
[56:11] Speaker 1: He didn't look washed last year, right?
[56:13] Speaker 2: Is there more motivation for him this year with his
[56:15] Speaker 2: son on the bench?
[56:16] Speaker 1: I'm playing every game. Man, listen.
[56:19] Speaker 4: He's capable of doing what he's doing, and he's doing it.
[56:22] Speaker 1: You know, um....
[56:26] Speaker 4: Listen, this is how good he is. The fact that
[56:33] Speaker 4: they're LeBron haters... are pretending that he's not the age
[56:39] Speaker 4: he is doing what he's doing, and he's 25 or 6.
[56:44] Speaker 1: Right.
[56:47] Speaker 4: Like they can name another 38, 39-year-old who was even
[56:52] Speaker 4: capable of playing this way in history.
[56:56] Speaker 1: They can't. So they have to.
[56:58] Speaker 4: Pretend that he's in his 20s and he's failing but
[57:02] Speaker 4: if you say who is the best 38 year old
[57:07] Speaker 4: ever is gonna be one person who was the best
[57:09] Speaker 4: 39 year old.
[57:11] Speaker 1: Ever is gonna be the same one person.
[57:13] Speaker 4: When he turns 40 who was the best 40 year
[57:15] Speaker 4: old in history is gonna be the same person So
[57:18] Speaker 4: what he's doing has never been done.
[57:20] Speaker 1: Hmm. What when Jordan was doing it?
[57:24] Speaker 4: He was the best at that age He's playing better
[57:29] Speaker 4: at that age. There's only been a couple people at
[57:31] Speaker 4: this age that's been this good.
[57:33] Speaker 1: So he has to.
[57:36] Speaker 4: Be very good in your eyes if you got to
[57:39] Speaker 4: still pretend that he's not this old. We can see
[57:44] Speaker 4: his face. We can see when he goes up for
[57:48] Speaker 4: a fast break dunk. God damn it, it's all arms.
[57:54] Speaker 4: It's all arms out this motherfucker. He's bulging out this bitch.
[58:00] Speaker 4: It ain't the head, ain't at the rim no more.
[58:02] Speaker 4: God damn it, it's all under the net. We know
[58:04] Speaker 4: he's old, but you refuse to acknowledge it.
[58:07] Speaker 1: It's okay. We get it. We get it.
[58:11] Speaker 4: But you can't compare him at his age to no
[58:15] Speaker 4: one in history. You're going to keep pretending, oh, yeah,
[58:18] Speaker 4: when Mike was a 27, look at that numbers. When
[58:20] Speaker 4: Kobe was a 32, when Kobe was 32, look at Mike.
[58:22] Speaker 1: Look at LeBron. They wasn't even the same. Come on, dog.
[58:24] Speaker 1: This is old, man. Speaking of LeBron, you know, LeBron
[58:28] Speaker 1: beat KD first in the finals. That's good.
[58:46] Speaker 5: So, KD had to get his back on Braun twice.
[58:51] Speaker 3: He got it twice.
[58:52] Speaker 4: He got it twice.
[58:54] Speaker 1: He got it twice. Back to back. He had to
[58:57] Speaker 1: soup up. He had to put some armor on.
[58:59] Speaker 3: Back to back. My point is this. My point is this.
[59:01] Speaker 3: You got to wait until you're 38, 39, start surpassing
[59:04] Speaker 3: everybody to call yourself the greatest.
[59:06] Speaker 1: It's cool. Wait, what? Wait.
[59:08] Speaker 3: I'm just saying.
[59:08] Speaker 1: Wait, say that again?
[59:09] Speaker 3: Listen.
[59:10] Speaker 1: No, no, say that again.
[59:10] Speaker 3: All I'm just saying is the conversation that you be
[59:14] Speaker 3: worthy inside of being great with the other names has
[59:17] Speaker 3: to be mentioned because you're surpassing them in time. You're
[59:21] Speaker 3: surpassing them in how many years you're being played. So
[59:24] Speaker 3: your whole spiel about who is the other 38-year-old is
[59:28] Speaker 3: supposed to be listed.
[59:29] Speaker 4: Who the fuck gives a fuck?
[59:31] Speaker 1: I know, I know.
[59:31] Speaker 3: Okay, who's the 39-year-old mentioning this?
[59:34] Speaker 1: Who the fuck gives a fuck?
[59:36] Speaker 5: Right?
[59:36] Speaker 3: Who cares about who was 38, 39, and who was
[59:38] Speaker 3: making money?
[59:39] Speaker 1: It's like, yeah, yeah, yeah.
[59:42] Speaker 3: You're not passing nobody. It's not impressive. So why are
[59:47] Speaker 3: we making it impressive? We're making it impressive because.
[59:51] Speaker 4: Ain't nobody else doing it.
[59:54] Speaker 1: Okay.
[59:55] Speaker 3: Damn, but we got a bunch of young guys we
[59:56] Speaker 3: ain't even talking about.
[59:58] Speaker 1: Okay. We should be talking about Donovan Mitchell. So... We should.
[1:00:02] Speaker 3: Be talking about Donovan Mitchell.
[1:00:05] Speaker 1: So your defense is.
[1:00:07] Speaker 4: He's only breaking these records because of longevity.
[1:00:10] Speaker 3: Because he's still playing.
[1:00:11] Speaker 1: Hey, who's the youngest to 1,000 points? Was that LeBron?
[1:00:14] Speaker 1: Was it? Okay, who's the youngest to 5,000?
[1:00:17] Speaker 4: I'm pretty sure it's the same LeBron.
[1:00:18] Speaker 1: It was? 10,000, 15, 20, 25, 30, 35. One of
[1:00:19] Speaker 1: them was KD's. No.
[1:00:26] Speaker 3: A couple of them.
[1:00:26] Speaker 1: No, the youngest is LeBron. LeBron has been the youngest
[1:00:28] Speaker 1: to every milestone. So the longevity is wrong. It's a
[1:00:30] Speaker 1: wrong narrative.
[1:00:31] Speaker 8: So when Kobe, when he beat Kobe, when he beat
[1:00:32] Speaker 8: Kobe for his record, What was Kobe's record?
[1:00:47] Speaker 1: To do it. When he beat Kobe. He was younger
[1:00:49] Speaker 1: than Kobe when he passed Kobe.
[1:00:51] Speaker 3: Yeah.
[1:00:51] Speaker 1: He was younger than Michael Jordan. He was still number three, though.
[1:00:54] Speaker 4: He was younger than Michael Jordan when he beat Michael Jordan.
[1:00:57] Speaker 1: He's always going to be number three.
[1:00:58] Speaker 4: He was younger than Hakeem, I mean, Kareem when he
[1:01:02] Speaker 4: beat Kareem.
[1:01:02] Speaker 1: See what happened, though, Greg?
[1:01:03] Speaker 3: When you have to use stats. to uphold or go
[1:01:07] Speaker 3: above someone else that doesn't mean that. You just used that.
[1:01:10] Speaker 3: But I'm not trying to. You just said.
[1:01:12] Speaker 1: Longevity gets him new.
[1:01:13] Speaker 4: You said longevity is the reason he's breaking all these,
[1:01:16] Speaker 4: but he.
[1:01:16] Speaker 1: Was the youngest to all of it. Okay. So the
[1:01:20] Speaker 1: narrative is wrong.
[1:01:22] Speaker 3: There ain't no narrative.
[1:01:23] Speaker 4: It's just that you're trying to get credit. So when
[1:01:24] Speaker 4: Kobe got to 30 or whatever, he was younger than
[1:01:26] Speaker 4: Kobe when he passed him.
[1:01:27] Speaker 1: Yeah, that's great. When Kobe got it, I'm younger than
[1:01:29] Speaker 1: you when I passed him.
[1:01:30] Speaker 3: But all the shit you just said is 38.
[1:01:32] Speaker 1: Man, and no one's doing it at 38.
[1:01:33] Speaker 4: No one's doing it at nine.
[1:01:34] Speaker 1: No one cares. I know. Of course you don't.
[1:01:37] Speaker 3: But we cared when he was the youngest to do, do, do, do, do, do, right?
[1:01:40] Speaker 1: Okay.
[1:01:40] Speaker 3: Right, but you know who else was in the league then?
[1:01:42] Speaker 1: Who?
[1:01:42] Speaker 4: The other guys that made us not notice it.
[1:01:45] Speaker 1: Who? The other, like.
[1:01:47] Speaker 3: Kobe Bryant.
[1:01:48] Speaker 1: He passed Kobe when.
[1:01:49] Speaker 3: Yeah, but there were guys in the league that made
[1:01:51] Speaker 3: us not even think about that stat. That stat wasn't
[1:01:54] Speaker 3: there because there were still guys in the league that were.
[1:01:56] Speaker 1: Really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really good. Who?
[1:01:58] Speaker 3: Now that those guys are not there anymore, there's only
[1:02:00] Speaker 3: one guy who's really, really, really good, KD, and you
[1:02:02] Speaker 3: can't really compare their stats because you've been doing it
[1:02:04] Speaker 3: a lot longer than he's been doing it. So it's
[1:02:07] Speaker 3: a big stretch.
[1:02:09] Speaker 1: Who was really good when he broke the record? Who
[1:02:12] Speaker 1: broke the record? When he broke any record. What do
[1:02:14] Speaker 1: you mean he was really good?
[1:02:17] Speaker 4: I'm confused, and I'm a Kobe fan.
[1:02:20] Speaker 1: You're always confused. You can't be a Kobe fan.
[1:02:23] Speaker 4: Are we pretending that when Kobe was at his dominance,
[1:02:28] Speaker 4: there wasn't a young LeBron? We know what Kobe's team
[1:02:31] Speaker 4: looked like.
[1:02:32] Speaker 3: We know what the Cavs looked like.
[1:02:34] Speaker 4: We heard LeBron say, this is the greatest player on
[1:02:36] Speaker 4: the planet.
[1:02:37] Speaker 3: We heard LeBron James say, this is the greatest player
[1:02:41] Speaker 3: on the planet.
[1:02:41] Speaker 1: No, they weren't trash.
[1:02:42] Speaker 4: They weren't good when LeBron came to.
[1:02:45] Speaker 1: No, when LeBron... Say it again, Greg. Thank you.
[1:02:47] Speaker 3: Say it again.
[1:02:48] Speaker 1: So they weren't... They weren't trash. Did you say they weren't? Yes.
[1:02:52] Speaker 1: Mo Williams. They weren't trash. So what, what, so... It
[1:02:55] Speaker 1: wasn't All-Star. The Juniors wasn't All-Star. Before LeBron got to All-Star.
[1:03:01] Speaker 1: So you're saying, so... But it was LeBron, though. But yes.
[1:03:04] Speaker 1: So that's the point we're talking about. LeBron, who was
[1:03:09] Speaker 1: leading that?
[1:03:10] Speaker 6: And who was still the ready to find LeBron?
[1:03:12] Speaker 5: And right now, Kobe Bryant had way better opportunities.
[1:03:17] Speaker 1: Kobe Bryant was a prime player. These two were in
[1:03:21] Speaker 1: the same era. LeBron is 16 and 6 against him.
[1:03:24] Speaker 4: He has to wait until Kobe leaves. I'm 16 and
[1:03:27] Speaker 4: 6 against him. I don't care.
[1:03:29] Speaker 1: You're not me. I'm 16.
[1:03:31] Speaker 4: You got to use stats.
[1:03:32] Speaker 1: You got a better team.
[1:03:33] Speaker 5: You see how he's using stats.
[1:03:34] Speaker 1: I'm whooping your team's ass. I'm Kobe Bryant, though. I know,
[1:03:36] Speaker 1: but he's Kobe. I'm whooping your team's ass. I'm Kobe.
[1:03:39] Speaker 1: You won championships. No one cares about none of that.
[1:03:41] Speaker 1: The years you won championships, I whooped your team's ass.
[1:03:43] Speaker 4: You got to wait until I leave.
[1:03:45] Speaker 1: Why?
[1:03:45] Speaker 3: You got to go down to South Beach to have
[1:03:48] Speaker 3: a chance.
[1:03:48] Speaker 1: No. No, that's your narrative. To have a chance. That's
[1:03:52] Speaker 1: your narrative.
[1:03:53] Speaker 4: No, that's your narrative.
[1:03:55] Speaker 3: I beat them dudes that teamed up against me.
[1:03:58] Speaker 1: That's your narrative.
[1:04:00] Speaker 6: I went to the finals four years before you went
[1:04:03] Speaker 6: to Miami.
[1:04:03] Speaker 1: I went to the finals at 22. You didn't win it.
[1:04:05] Speaker 1: It don't matter. It don't matter. He had to die
[1:04:09] Speaker 1: at 22. So why you leave? I'm 22. Because he
[1:04:12] Speaker 1: needs to. Greg. No, he said it. Greg. He said
[1:04:14] Speaker 1: it in the face.
[1:04:15] Speaker 6: He said, look, I'm from African fucking Ohio. I play
[1:04:18] Speaker 6: in Cleveland. This is my first time leaving Ohio. I
[1:04:22] Speaker 6: had to get uncomfortable. to do something I've never done before.
[1:04:26] Speaker 6: He said it.
[1:04:26] Speaker 1: I'm sorry.
[1:04:27] Speaker 4: People don't give him that. He said that shit. After
[1:04:29] Speaker 4: seven years.
[1:04:30] Speaker 1: I'm 26. I'm 26. Are you not comprehending?
[1:04:34] Speaker 3: You've been all over the world.
[1:04:37] Speaker 1: Are you comprehending?
[1:04:38] Speaker 3: Are you comprehending?
[1:04:39] Speaker 1: And when you go somewhere else and you get uncomfortable,
[1:04:42] Speaker 1: it's going to force.
[1:04:43] Speaker 4: You to do something you've never had before. You know
[1:04:44] Speaker 4: what Kobe never did?
[1:04:45] Speaker 1: You know what Kobe never did? Never beat LeBron. He
[1:04:48] Speaker 1: never left L.A. He couldn't beat LeBron. He never left L.A.
[1:04:50] Speaker 4: He wanted to.
[1:04:51] Speaker 1: He wanted to. He was about to go to Detroit.
[1:04:54] Speaker 1: He was about to go to Detroit.
[1:04:56] Speaker 4: He never left L.A.
[1:04:57] Speaker 1: When LeBron, listen. He didn't, but he won it out, though.
[1:05:00] Speaker 1: He never left L.A.
[1:05:01] Speaker 4: But he won it out, though.
[1:05:02] Speaker 3: He never left L.A.
[1:05:03] Speaker 1: That's a whole other narrative. You never leave the kingdom.
[1:05:05] Speaker 1: Your team is better. You never leave your team. Your
[1:05:08] Speaker 1: team is better than me. You never leave your kingdom. Cool,
[1:05:11] Speaker 1: that makes sense. Good, good. Your team is better.
[1:05:14] Speaker 4: You are the fucking GOAT.
[1:05:16] Speaker 1: I'm a young dude. 16-6 against you, fam.
[1:05:20] Speaker 3: Learn from me.
[1:05:21] Speaker 4: Hey, and I'm going to tell you how it started.
[1:05:23] Speaker 4: I just got to this team.
[1:05:25] Speaker 1: You beat me three straight games. My rookie year, my
[1:05:30] Speaker 1: sophomore year. That means in my sophomore year.
[1:05:34] Speaker 4: Till you stop playing, you only won three fucking games
[1:05:38] Speaker 4: against me.
[1:05:39] Speaker 1: And you are the GOAT.
[1:05:40] Speaker 4: He is going against Kobe Bryant. Come on. If this
[1:05:42] Speaker 4: was the other way around, if this was the other
[1:05:45] Speaker 4: way around, we wouldn't even have a discussion about this.
[1:05:48] Speaker 4: If this was.
[1:05:48] Speaker 1: Kobe Bryant coming in.
[1:05:50] Speaker 4: As a young dude and he's beating LeBron, 13-3, come on, y'all.
[1:05:54] Speaker 1: He said Kobe was his favorite player. Yeah, and I'm
[1:05:59] Speaker 1: beating his ass.
[1:06:00] Speaker 3: It don't sound like it.
[1:06:02] Speaker 1: I'm just leaving facts out. What's the facts? What's the facts?
[1:06:05] Speaker 1: It's facts. But the one thing y'all not talking about is.
[1:06:08] Speaker 5: Brian's in Cleveland.
[1:06:09] Speaker 1: Facts. It's facts. He's just coming here to play basketball.
[1:06:13] Speaker 3: This man is coming here to follow my legacy. You're
[1:06:18] Speaker 3: here to try to get my.
[1:06:20] Speaker 1: Legacy out of here.
[1:06:21] Speaker 3: You trying to compete with me.
[1:06:24] Speaker 6: I'm just in fucking Cleveland, Ohio. I ain't going to
[1:06:26] Speaker 6: enjoy Greystone.
[1:06:28] Speaker 1: And then I'm going to play a game.
[1:06:29] Speaker 3: What are you talking about? Hey, Vanessa Bryant got a
[1:06:32] Speaker 3: great set.
[1:06:33] Speaker 4: This is the house that Kobe built.
[1:06:35] Speaker 1: Cool.
[1:06:36] Speaker 4: And I beat it 16 times.
[1:06:39] Speaker 1: I beat it 16 times. This is the house that
[1:06:42] Speaker 1: Kobe built. When you beat me, you had Shaq.
[1:06:44] Speaker 4: Your three games you beat me, you had Shaq on
[1:06:47] Speaker 4: your team. Kobe.
[1:06:48] Speaker 1: You got Shaq. You and Shaq are championship teams. You
[1:06:51] Speaker 1: see the little waist basket. You crumple up the little newspaper.
[1:06:54] Speaker 1: You say, Kobe. Kobe. Who would my daughter say that to? Kobe!
[1:06:59] Speaker 1: Kobe Cole!
[1:06:59] Speaker 4: You're not saying LeBron is too long.
[1:07:02] Speaker 1: LeBron James!
[1:07:04] Speaker 3: Nah, we're not doing that.
[1:07:07] Speaker 1: LeBron James! They don't even do that. They just walk
[1:07:11] Speaker 1: around and go, LeBron James. But they're making fun of you.
[1:07:14] Speaker 4: They're making fun of you.
[1:07:15] Speaker 1: It's about life.
[1:07:16] Speaker 4: But if you say Kobe, but if you say.
[1:07:18] Speaker 1: Kobe, You got to use it. But you got to
[1:07:21] Speaker 1: use that. If you say Kobe, it means greatness.
[1:07:25] Speaker 3: And then he got another name called Mamba. When you
[1:07:30] Speaker 3: say Mamba, that's when you get nasty.
[1:07:33] Speaker 1: Wait, isn't LeBron saying greatness? What are we talking about
[1:07:36] Speaker 1: right now?
[1:07:36] Speaker 4: LeBron said it's really greatness. No, I said Kobe.
[1:07:40] Speaker 3: But Kobe means greatness. Listen, when you take away and
[1:07:46] Speaker 3: you just isolate those two, that Mamba, why it didn't
[1:07:50] Speaker 3: work against.
[1:07:50] Speaker 1: Him, though? Because it worked against everybody else. But not him.
[1:07:54] Speaker 4: You're comparing it to him. You're comparing him to him.
[1:07:57] Speaker 1: I didn't go to Cleveland. But you're comparing him to
[1:07:59] Speaker 1: LeBron James, though.
[1:08:01] Speaker 4: So the question is, why didn't the Mamba work against LeBron?
[1:08:07] Speaker 4: When you put them two together, teams and all that,
[1:08:10] Speaker 4: that means when he was winning championships with Shaq, He.
[1:08:14] Speaker 1: Lost to LeBron James, dog.
[1:08:17] Speaker 4: You can do all the antics you want.
[1:08:20] Speaker 1: You're reaching. You're 6-16. So what? I don't even know
[1:08:23] Speaker 1: what you're talking about.
[1:08:24] Speaker 4: And you're still not better than me.
[1:08:26] Speaker 1: That's what I know. Says the world. Question for you, Greg. Technically,
[1:08:29] Speaker 1: the world says yes. The world. The world says yes.
[1:08:31] Speaker 1: The world. Because they got Kobe at 8.
[1:08:33] Speaker 3: No, nobody got Kobe at nothing but number one.
[1:08:36] Speaker 1: So question for you, Greg. One. Question for you, Greg.
[1:08:39] Speaker 1: You spent a season playing with LeBron on a heat
[1:08:41] Speaker 1: squad back in 2013-14. Yes. What were you most impressed
[1:08:45] Speaker 1: by when playing with LeBron?
[1:08:47] Speaker 6: His dedication to defense. I didn't think as the greatest
[1:08:51] Speaker 6: player on the planet that he would give that dedication
[1:08:53] Speaker 6: to defense. His dedication to defense.
[1:08:55] Speaker 1: No, no, no. You said something after that. Oh, no.
[1:08:57] Speaker 6: I said Miami LeBron James was the greatest player I've
[1:09:00] Speaker 6: ever seen play the game of basketball. When that motherfucker
[1:09:03] Speaker 6: put that black mask on, I swear to God, I
[1:09:05] Speaker 6: was like, hold on now. This is a different human being.
[1:09:08] Speaker 6: This is a different human being right here. He was
[1:09:10] Speaker 6: a creative player. I'm sorry. I saw him do stuff that, like, Like,
[1:09:15] Speaker 6: people don't believe me. I saw the man dunk from
[1:09:17] Speaker 6: the free throw line in practice.
[1:09:19] Speaker 1: And we was all under the free throw line. Like,
[1:09:22] Speaker 1: I was like, David Finsdale was like, that's what he do.
[1:09:25] Speaker 6: I was like, this nigga just dunked from the free
[1:09:27] Speaker 6: throw line on everybody? Like, he's a great player.
[1:09:33] Speaker 1: I'm sorry, man. And he keep on doing it. And
[1:09:36] Speaker 1: at 38, he's still doing it.
[1:09:38] Speaker 6: We sitting here talking for the past 25 minutes about
[1:09:41] Speaker 6: this man.
[1:09:43] Speaker 1: What are we talking about?
[1:09:44] Speaker 3: This is an everyday, everyday occurrence. You know, granted to
[1:09:48] Speaker 3: people who actually create the questions.
[1:09:50] Speaker 2: We talk about major storylines in the NBA.
[1:09:53] Speaker 3: So we're forced to have this conversation.
[1:09:55] Speaker 1: Not forced. Yeah, that was 2012-13.
[1:10:00] Speaker 5: 13-14.
[1:10:00] Speaker 3: After they went back-to-back, you came through there.
[1:10:04] Speaker 6: I'm just saying, that man was great.
[1:10:08] Speaker 1: Those four years, though. Those four years. If you take
[1:10:10] Speaker 1: that four-year LeBron James and tell me he was better
[1:10:12] Speaker 1: than him. Well, his stomach hurt right now. Why? Because
[1:10:22] Speaker 1: Kobe was still playing. Why? Because Kobe was still playing.
[1:10:24] Speaker 3: There's an interview of LeBron James saying Kobe is the
[1:10:27] Speaker 3: greatest player on the planet.
[1:10:28] Speaker 4: Hey, there's an interview of LeBron James. No, there's an
[1:10:32] Speaker 4: interview of Ant-Man saying that's.
[1:10:33] Speaker 1: My favorite player. LeBron saying right here. And there's an
[1:10:41] Speaker 1: interview of... I'm right here. I said it.
[1:10:43] Speaker 3: Nobody heard it.
[1:10:44] Speaker 1: Hold on.
[1:10:44] Speaker 4: Hey, what is that interview Ant-Man said about KD after
[1:10:47] Speaker 4: he was whooping KD's ass?
[1:10:48] Speaker 1: It was an interview. Yeah, that's my favorite player. He's great.
[1:10:53] Speaker 1: He's one of the best players ever. Yeah, I scored 40,
[1:10:56] Speaker 1: but that don't matter. Sweep! That don't matter, that don't matter.
[1:10:59] Speaker 1: We sweeped him, but he's the best player ever. Like,
[1:11:02] Speaker 1: Homage is Homage. Was that a rebuttal?
[1:11:03] Speaker 3: Homage is Homage.
[1:11:04] Speaker 1: Homage is Homage. Was that a rebuttal? People play Homage.
[1:11:06] Speaker 1: Was that a rebuttal?
[1:11:07] Speaker 5: Homage is Homage.
[1:11:08] Speaker 1: People play Homage.
[1:11:08] Speaker 3: Was that a rebuttal?
[1:11:09] Speaker 1: No, it's a Homage.
[1:11:10] Speaker 3: What's the Homage?
[1:11:12] Speaker 1: Reality is still reality.
[1:11:13] Speaker 3: Which is what? Kobe Bryant is the greatest? What are
[1:11:16] Speaker 3: you talking about?
[1:11:17] Speaker 1: In your mind, yes. Your opinion is your opinion.
[1:11:19] Speaker 6: Doesn't Jordan still have another championship over him? I mean,
[1:11:22] Speaker 6: we keep talking about this.
[1:11:23] Speaker 1: We got 1A, 1B, 1C. What are we talking about?
[1:11:26] Speaker 3: You didn't know I don't talk stats.
[1:11:28] Speaker 1: No, he talks. Abilities.
[1:11:31] Speaker 3: I am a beauty.
[1:11:31] Speaker 1: 2 plus 2 ain't 4 over there.
[1:11:32] Speaker 3: I'm a beauty.
[1:11:33] Speaker 1: It's whatever he wanted. Yes.
[1:11:34] Speaker 3: 2 plus 2 is not what they tell you it is.
[1:11:39] Speaker 1: Okay, you want group things? I grew up like a man.
[1:11:40] Speaker 1: And you want group things? And I actually got to
[1:11:42] Speaker 1: do my daughter's third grade homework.
[1:11:44] Speaker 4: You want somebody to tell you what it is? They'll
[1:11:46] Speaker 4: tell you.
[1:11:46] Speaker 3: But if you've seen Kobe Bryant play, you've seen what
[1:11:49] Speaker 3: I've seen, I'm just like, hey, man, anybody seen anything
[1:11:51] Speaker 3: other than that?
[1:11:52] Speaker 4: He's a weirdo.
[1:11:54] Speaker 5: So LeBron James beating Kobe Bryant 16 to 6 times
[1:11:57] Speaker 5: and good numbers still don't.
[1:11:58] Speaker 3: Was that a one-on-one matchup?
[1:12:01] Speaker 5: No, it's a game. I mean, I'm sure they.
[1:12:03] Speaker 3: It was not.
[1:12:05] Speaker 1: Yeah.
[1:12:06] Speaker 3: LeBron averaged 37 points against me.
[1:12:09] Speaker 2: People in the chat have posted. Why would you say
[1:12:11] Speaker 2: that out loud? They keep saying it. Well, the chat
[1:12:13] Speaker 2: does post that.
[1:12:14] Speaker 3: Average 37 against me.
[1:12:17] Speaker 1: Every possession.
[1:12:18] Speaker 3: Every possession. I end up 37.
[1:12:25] Speaker 1: Coach, he got it again. 37 on the dot. Right.
[1:12:28] Speaker 5: So how do you view it then? Like, if y'all
[1:12:31] Speaker 5: not playing one-on-one, so how can you say somebody's better?
[1:12:34] Speaker 3: You know how.
[1:12:35] Speaker 4: What are you talking about?
[1:12:36] Speaker 5: I'm asking.
[1:12:36] Speaker 1: Are you better than Luke Ridenour? It's not about that.
[1:12:41] Speaker 4: Answer the question. Don't tell me it's not about that.
[1:12:44] Speaker 1: No need for Luke Rittenhour slander on a Monday.
[1:12:46] Speaker 3: You messed up with Luke Rittenhour. You want people to
[1:12:48] Speaker 3: be like, look at their stats.
[1:12:49] Speaker 1: Not on a Monday.
[1:12:49] Speaker 3: That's what you want.
[1:12:50] Speaker 1: Not on a Monday. Shot is only Monday.
[1:12:52] Speaker 5: It's not about that.
[1:12:53] Speaker 3: That's what you want. You want them to line up
[1:12:55] Speaker 3: you and Luke's stats, or you want to line.
[1:12:56] Speaker 1: Up the ability.
[1:12:57] Speaker 5: But if me and Luke Rittenhour win that. Technically, you're
[1:12:59] Speaker 5: supposed to line up the stats.
[1:13:00] Speaker 3: I'm asking the question. I ask how y'all do it.
[1:13:02] Speaker 4: Okay, so we may do it.
[1:13:03] Speaker 1: We do it different.
[1:13:04] Speaker 3: We play 21, where you got a 2.
[1:13:05] Speaker 1: If you miss, you go back to 15.
[1:13:06] Speaker 3: Y'all do it different in college. Yeah, they do it
[1:13:11] Speaker 3: different out here, so I had to adjust. They gauge
[1:13:13] Speaker 3: it different.
[1:13:14] Speaker 6: Oh, if you don't miss on 20, you don't go
[1:13:16] Speaker 6: back to 15?
[1:13:17] Speaker 1: Huh? I thought it was 13 in Indiana. Over here,
[1:13:20] Speaker 1: they be.
[1:13:20] Speaker 4: Doing some wild shit.
[1:13:22] Speaker 2: Well, let's keep this thing moving and grooving. So, Greg,
[1:13:25] Speaker 2: you asked, and we were going to talk about the Warriors,
[1:13:27] Speaker 2: and that we are.
[1:13:28] Speaker 1: Let's talk about them.
[1:13:29] Speaker 2: So, Warriors improved a 2-0 in the NBA Cup with
[1:13:31] Speaker 2: a home win over the Grizzlies Friday night, but we
[1:13:33] Speaker 2: got to talk about a questionable moment that went down
[1:13:36] Speaker 2: during the game.
[1:13:37] Speaker 1: So, we've got the video, so... Draymond drives to the hoop.
[1:13:42] Speaker 3: Lose the ball.
[1:13:43] Speaker 2: Falls to the basket. Appears to grab Zach Eady's leg.
[1:13:47] Speaker 2: We have other views, Gil. We have other views. We
[1:13:50] Speaker 2: have other views.
[1:13:50] Speaker 1: Oh, oh, oh. Nah, nah, nah. That ain't, that ain't, nah.
[1:13:55] Speaker 1: I'm just showing you. Bigfoot, man.
[1:13:58] Speaker 2: Appears to grab Zuzak Edie's leg as he tries to
[1:14:00] Speaker 2: run back down the court. So Dre was given a
[1:14:02] Speaker 2: take foul during the game, and afterwards it was upgraded
[1:14:04] Speaker 2: to a flagrant one. So after the game, both Grizzlies
[1:14:07] Speaker 2: head coach Taylor Jenkins and Edie gave their thoughts on
[1:14:10] Speaker 2: the play. So we'll start with Coach Jenkins first. He said,
[1:14:14] Speaker 2: very disappointing. There was that one play we were about
[1:14:16] Speaker 2: to start the break, and he's been playing really well,
[1:14:19] Speaker 2: really hard to try to outlet. Draymond grabs his leg,
[1:14:22] Speaker 2: pulls him down, and it doesn't get reviewed. So I
[1:14:24] Speaker 2: know there's a code in this league. And I don't
[1:14:26] Speaker 2: understand how that wasn't reviewed. Very disappointing. Also, Edie had
[1:14:31] Speaker 2: this to say, much more brief. Man, a few words.
[1:14:34] Speaker 1: Canadian. It definitely wasn't a basketball play. So after the NBA...
[1:14:40] Speaker 1: It's Draymond Green. So after the NBA on ESPN.
[1:14:43] Speaker 2: Posted quote cards of Jenkins and Edie's comments on the
[1:14:45] Speaker 2: play on their Instagram, Draymond shared it and had this
[1:14:50] Speaker 2: response for it. First he said, Boo, I was trying
[1:14:54] Speaker 2: to find a marshmallow emoji. Then Draymond commented in the
[1:14:57] Speaker 2: post with, shut up, before adding another comment that said,
[1:15:00] Speaker 2: your parents would actually claim and be proud of you
[1:15:04] Speaker 2: if you were me.
[1:15:09] Speaker 1: Do y'all know the Michigan State? The Michigan State. The water?
[1:15:14] Speaker 1: The water, yeah, we heard. But that's what they do. Oh,
[1:15:19] Speaker 1: I'm just saying. Disney water?
[1:15:24] Speaker 4: It's a little Hennessy color without the Hennessy ink.
[1:15:26] Speaker 1: I'm just saying.
[1:15:29] Speaker 6: I'm going to go ahead and be quiet. No, that's
[1:15:33] Speaker 6: the thing.
[1:15:34] Speaker 1: I remember playing in the big three. Remember what happened
[1:15:37] Speaker 1: last time. You better stop.
[1:15:39] Speaker 3: I'm not being with you no more.
[1:15:41] Speaker 1: You think I'm going to step in and get the
[1:15:43] Speaker 1: first bullet? You're wrong.
[1:15:46] Speaker 4: Calico said if I ever come here, just holler at him.
[1:15:50] Speaker 1: That's it? So I'm good.
[1:15:51] Speaker 3: He's going to answer and be like, I'm in Texas.
[1:15:53] Speaker 4: I ain't even here right now. I ain't even know you.
[1:15:57] Speaker 1: I'm in Texas.
[1:15:58] Speaker 4: I'm in Texas.
[1:15:59] Speaker 3: I'm like, look, y'all go ahead and use the bat
[1:16:01] Speaker 3: on this.
[1:16:02] Speaker 2: But you guys got an opportunity to see the play.
[1:16:03] Speaker 2: We've seen the responses from both sides. Did Draymond break
[1:16:05] Speaker 2: the code with his fragrant file on Zach Eaton?
[1:16:09] Speaker 5: Yeah, I'm not rolling with that.
[1:16:12] Speaker 1: I'm not rolling. I'm not.
[1:16:14] Speaker 5: Bro, that's a dirty play, bro. You can obviously see
[1:16:17] Speaker 5: that he took his leg and he went like this.
[1:16:19] Speaker 4: Absolutely.
[1:16:20] Speaker 5: That's a dirty play, bro. If y'all defending that, y'all,
[1:16:23] Speaker 5: come on, man. Come on, bro.
[1:16:24] Speaker 1: I will. I wouldn't do the same shit. For what, though?
[1:16:27] Speaker 1: I didn't try to hide it. Don't look away, can you? Hey,
[1:16:30] Speaker 1: I would have been like, nigga.
[1:16:34] Speaker 6: Yeah, I did it. Look, Blake Griffin tried to go
[1:16:37] Speaker 6: up and dunk. I swear to God, I ain't even
[1:16:39] Speaker 6: blink an eye. I said, no, push that thing out
[1:16:42] Speaker 6: of bounds.
[1:16:42] Speaker 1: I swear to God. Oh, my bad. That's too much.
[1:16:44] Speaker 1: He said, that's too much. He already told you? Hey,
[1:16:49] Speaker 1: I'm not doing that. Like, sorry.
[1:16:51] Speaker 6: Oh, no, this big motherfucker, I'm still sitting down. No,
[1:16:54] Speaker 6: I'm going to go ahead and get down here with me.
[1:16:55] Speaker 1: I'm sorry.
[1:16:56] Speaker 4: You're taking the foul, though.
[1:16:57] Speaker 1: Yes, I'm taking the foul. I'm not hiding it either.
[1:17:01] Speaker 5: I'm not rolling with that, bro.
[1:17:02] Speaker 1: Yeah, and then.
[1:17:03] Speaker 5: The way the injuries are and the way people be
[1:17:05] Speaker 5: getting hurt, it's like, come on, man.
[1:17:06] Speaker 1: Man. The only reason I'm not... Y'all keep defending that shit.
[1:17:09] Speaker 1: I see what you're talking about.
[1:17:11] Speaker 3: But the only reason I'm not rolling with it for
[1:17:12] Speaker 3: him is because it's him.
[1:17:13] Speaker 1: Yeah, like, this is what you do.
[1:17:16] Speaker 3: Come on, man. You're talking about growth and all. You
[1:17:18] Speaker 3: can't be on the bus giving advice to guys talking
[1:17:21] Speaker 3: about going and doing... What?
[1:17:22] Speaker 4: And then you go do this.
[1:17:23] Speaker 3: Like, bro, what the fuck are we doing out here?
[1:17:27] Speaker 1: What was the liability here? What do you mean the liability? Bro,
[1:17:30] Speaker 1: I got your leg. I got your leg, fam. Right, right.
[1:17:33] Speaker 5: And say he tweaked it or whatever.
[1:17:35] Speaker 1: Ah, rookie. But first of all, he's a big, so. Rookie.
[1:17:38] Speaker 1: And he's Canadian. He's a rookie. He not even from here.
[1:17:42] Speaker 1: I told y'all.
[1:17:43] Speaker 4: See, y'all thought I was bullshitting when I said he
[1:17:44] Speaker 4: be whooping them heroes' asses.
[1:17:46] Speaker 1: I'm not rolling. I'm not rolling.
[1:17:47] Speaker 4: Y'all thought I was racist because he's whooping your old ass.
[1:17:50] Speaker 1: He's doing it. Gil, technically.
[1:17:53] Speaker 4: All heroes don't.
[1:17:54] Speaker 1: Wear capes is all I'm saying. Zack Eady is a
[1:17:56] Speaker 1: North American, Gil. Where is he from? He's from Canada. Okay, again.
[1:17:59] Speaker 1: That's not Europe. It's the same thing. He's an Indian.
[1:18:03] Speaker 1: Out of the state. He's whooping their asses. He knows.
[1:18:05] Speaker 1: He's whooping their asses.
[1:18:07] Speaker 3: He wouldn't let us. He wouldn't let us. He wouldn't
[1:18:10] Speaker 3: let us count Jamal Murray in them, so he knows.
[1:18:12] Speaker 4: I can't go against the American soil.
[1:18:13] Speaker 5: I mean, at this point, if somebody clocked him over here,
[1:18:15] Speaker 5: I wouldn't even be... I'd be like, all right, well.
[1:18:18] Speaker 1: Okay, look.
[1:18:19] Speaker 5: He'd know him for that. So if somebody... I'm telling you,
[1:18:22] Speaker 5: But that's how soft the league is now.
[1:18:25] Speaker 1: They want to be cool with people like that.
[1:18:27] Speaker 5: You won't crap around. You won't send a message. Like,
[1:18:30] Speaker 5: y'all just soft.
[1:18:31] Speaker 1: It's not. My whole rookie had to go against. You're right.
[1:18:33] Speaker 1: I had to go against. Kenyon Martin had to go against.
[1:18:36] Speaker 5: All these, Kevin Garnett, I had to hold my own
[1:18:39] Speaker 5: and talk his shit.
[1:18:40] Speaker 1: Where is that? Hell yeah.
[1:18:43] Speaker 5: But I had to be in the locker room with
[1:18:45] Speaker 5: Kurt Thomas, Jerry Stackhouse, all these guys, like these guys
[1:18:48] Speaker 5: that really get down. Where is that today? okay like
[1:18:50] Speaker 5: y'all over here like you're gonna let somebody grab you
[1:18:52] Speaker 5: yes and and and obviously put you out for the
[1:18:55] Speaker 5: rest of your career and not do nothing are you
[1:18:57] Speaker 5: fucking wait a minute are you fucking crazy and nobody's
[1:19:01] Speaker 5: sending a message on memphis you.
[1:19:03] Speaker 1: Crazy you crazy in the message on me. Somebody. They
[1:19:06] Speaker 1: got it. They got it. Somebody. I'll pay the fine.
[1:19:09] Speaker 3: You know he got it.
[1:19:10] Speaker 4: Zach was supposed to do it. Zach is the one
[1:19:13] Speaker 4: who getting his leg pulled is the one who's supposed
[1:19:15] Speaker 4: to do the get back.
[1:19:16] Speaker 5: Listen, he should have got up and went like that
[1:19:18] Speaker 5: to him. Right in his face.
[1:19:19] Speaker 1: 100%.
[1:19:20] Speaker 5: I would have kicked him right in his face. What
[1:19:21] Speaker 5: the fuck out here?
[1:19:22] Speaker 1: I would have kicked him right in his face.
[1:19:23] Speaker 4: You see that motherfucker over there?
[1:19:26] Speaker 1: I would have kicked him right in his face.
[1:19:27] Speaker 5: I would have kicked Draymond right in his fucking face.
[1:19:29] Speaker 4: Now you tell me this. Would you rather be in
[1:19:31] Speaker 4: this era where you get your leg, chicken leg, Huh?
[1:19:35] Speaker 4: Or do you want to get clotheslined by a motherfucker
[1:19:37] Speaker 4: over there like that?
[1:19:38] Speaker 1: No, at the end of the day, we're going to...
[1:19:39] Speaker 1: Chicken legs be all goddamn big. At the end of
[1:19:41] Speaker 1: the day, you're a man. We're going to have to
[1:19:43] Speaker 1: get down in. You're a man. We got the seats.
[1:19:45] Speaker 5: At the end of the day, if that would have happened,
[1:19:47] Speaker 5: he should have kicked Draymond right in the face.
[1:19:48] Speaker 1: Okay, how about this? I'm going to tell Edie, hey, listen,
[1:19:51] Speaker 1: you go play one game in the big three with
[1:19:53] Speaker 1: Reggie Evans.
[1:19:54] Speaker 6: And then you tell me, do you want to just.
[1:19:56] Speaker 4: Battle for a rebound with him or do you want
[1:20:00] Speaker 4: your leg clamped by Draymond Green?
[1:20:02] Speaker 1: I'm agreeing. It is that. No, it's not.
[1:20:04] Speaker 3: I would rather.
[1:20:05] Speaker 1: Have my leg clamped.
[1:20:11] Speaker 4: Than goddamn try to out-rebound Reggie Evans, who's going to elbow.
[1:20:14] Speaker 1: You, hit you in the nuts, do all this shit.
[1:20:16] Speaker 1: Just grab my goddamn leg. This is the best era
[1:20:19] Speaker 1: to fight. I'd rather fall. Everything on camera. No. Man,
[1:20:21] Speaker 1: you can get that. Man, if you.
[1:20:23] Speaker 5: This is the best era to act tough and do whatever.
[1:20:25] Speaker 5: in this era, because everything is film, so it don't matter.
[1:20:28] Speaker 5: You're going to get in trouble regardless. So at the
[1:20:30] Speaker 5: end of the day, if you're going to do that,
[1:20:31] Speaker 5: then I'm going to go out looking like that guy.
[1:20:33] Speaker 5: I'm going to deal with the consequences. At the end
[1:20:36] Speaker 5: of the day, bro, it's just a different era. Back
[1:20:38] Speaker 5: in the day, I'm probably not going to do that
[1:20:40] Speaker 5: to certain people because of, you know, times and it
[1:20:43] Speaker 5: can't get recorded. Now I can just go and make
[1:20:45] Speaker 5: a whole thing about whatever.
[1:20:46] Speaker 1: Who do you think had the lightest hit? Sabonis? Uh,
[1:20:52] Speaker 1: what's his name over in Phoenix? Nert. Nert? Or, uh, Engleweights.
[1:20:58] Speaker 1: Can't forget Gobert as well. Gobert. Who you think is like... Hindsight,
[1:21:01] Speaker 1: you got to forgive Draymond.
[1:21:03] Speaker 4: Who you think had the easiest out-of-the-ass whoopers at this point?
[1:21:07] Speaker 4: Which one seemed very, very mild?
[1:21:10] Speaker 1: Edie. Edie. Edie.
[1:21:12] Speaker 3: I'll ask you a question. You got my little.
[1:21:13] Speaker 1: Oh, you got a little chicken wing me? A little
[1:21:15] Speaker 1: chicken wing.
[1:21:16] Speaker 3: Tell me what this means.
[1:21:17] Speaker 4: What? Out of all of them, where's the Negro? Negro.
[1:21:22] Speaker 1: No, we don't do that.
[1:21:23] Speaker 3: Where's the Negro?
[1:21:24] Speaker 1: No, no, no. What is that? Whoa, what is that?
[1:21:27] Speaker 3: We don't do that.
[1:21:29] Speaker 1: Black on black crime. Black on black crime. Black on
[1:21:31] Speaker 1: black crime.
[1:21:32] Speaker 4: Draymond, you know where Draymond's from? We don't do black
[1:21:36] Speaker 4: on black.
[1:21:36] Speaker 1: He's for the community. He's for the community. Are you sure? Yeah,
[1:21:41] Speaker 1: we don't do that. Are you sure? Are you sure?
[1:21:43] Speaker 4: Because Jordan Poole sure looks black to me.
[1:21:45] Speaker 1: Oh, no, no. I'm cold. I'm cold. I'm cold. I'm
[1:21:53] Speaker 1: cold over here. Because he shows up like a brother
[1:21:56] Speaker 1: to me, didn't he?
[1:22:12] Speaker 4: Don't look like a brother in arms to me.
[1:22:15] Speaker 6: All I'm saying is if I played against Draymond like
[1:22:17] Speaker 6: that when I was actually playing and he did one
[1:22:19] Speaker 6: thing like that, we would never play another game.
[1:22:21] Speaker 1: Because it's on site every game.
[1:22:23] Speaker 3: Every game.
[1:22:24] Speaker 1: We start the game like... Jump ball. What we doing?
[1:22:29] Speaker 1: All right, I see you back there.
[1:22:30] Speaker 4: That's why he's brilliant.
[1:22:34] Speaker 1: That's why he's smart.
[1:22:36] Speaker 4: Y'all not thinking about the intelligence of this man.
[1:22:38] Speaker 5: But they getting, like, man, somebody got to change.
[1:22:41] Speaker 1: Listen, it's called intelligence, brother.
[1:22:44] Speaker 4: You got to send a message.
[1:22:45] Speaker 5: Somebody, this new generation got to start sending a message.
[1:22:49] Speaker 1: Who? Like, who's going to do it? Somebody.
[1:22:52] Speaker 5: Like, because right now, it's just, it's still LeBron stepping in.
[1:22:56] Speaker 1: Next up, Zachary. Huh? He going to get his ass
[1:22:59] Speaker 1: whipped by him. You know who I like, though. Sausage
[1:23:02] Speaker 1: and all of them.
[1:23:04] Speaker 4: They next got Danny. We know who to fuck with
[1:23:08] Speaker 4: and who don't. Because he's the only one that's talking
[1:23:10] Speaker 4: that shit.
[1:23:10] Speaker 1: He can't stay healthy. Anthony Edwards?
[1:23:14] Speaker 3: Oh, I thought you said Davis.
[1:23:15] Speaker 1: No, Anthony Edwards. He's the one that's going.
[1:23:18] Speaker 3: To come back.
[1:23:18] Speaker 6: He's going to talk shit. He's going to get up
[1:23:21] Speaker 6: in your face.
[1:23:22] Speaker 1: Who? And he's all-star to do it. Anthony Edwards. No,
[1:23:24] Speaker 1: we're messing with Connect, brother. You better watch out. Connect.
[1:23:28] Speaker 1: Did you just say Dalton? What? Connect. Did you just
[1:23:31] Speaker 1: say Dalton? Wait, hold on, hold on.
[1:23:32] Speaker 6: I was saying Connect. You're talking about Dalton, right?
[1:23:34] Speaker 1: Yeah, Dalton. All right, that's what we're talking about. Dalton,
[1:23:37] Speaker 1: a little bit. I ain't going to lie, though. Bop.
[1:23:40] Speaker 6: That motherfucker last year in Tennessee was cold.
[1:23:42] Speaker 1: Hey, he cold. I love him.
[1:23:44] Speaker 3: He cold right now.
[1:23:45] Speaker 1: He cold. I already ordered me a jersey.
[1:23:47] Speaker 3: The only thing I like about the Lakers is connecting
[1:23:49] Speaker 3: in the dot.
[1:23:50] Speaker 1: Really?
[1:23:50] Speaker 3: That's it.
[1:23:51] Speaker 1: Rashad, you said something about the Lakers? I like AD
[1:23:53] Speaker 1: right now.
[1:23:54] Speaker 3: Lemon Daddy got it.
[1:23:55] Speaker 1: No. No, they're exciting whites. No, they're not. Say that again?
[1:23:57] Speaker 1: Exciting whites. No, they're not. Exciting whites. No.
[1:24:00] Speaker 3: It's like white out on the paper.
[1:24:02] Speaker 1: You know how the white out on the paper is
[1:24:04] Speaker 1: just different colors. It ain't the same. Leave the regular
[1:24:07] Speaker 1: white piece of paper.
[1:24:08] Speaker 3: When you come in here whiting it out, you be like, damn,
[1:24:12] Speaker 3: I got to white out all the rest of it, too.
[1:24:14] Speaker 1: It don't look the same. Don't mess with our sentences.
[1:24:17] Speaker 1: Don't look the same.
[1:24:19] Speaker 3: Connect is out there doing what he's.
[1:24:20] Speaker 1: Supposed to do.
[1:24:21] Speaker 4: Yes, sir.
[1:24:22] Speaker 6: Are we still forgetting about Austin Reeves? Because he's still
[1:24:24] Speaker 6: doing this shit.
[1:24:24] Speaker 3: Yeah, we forgot about him.
[1:24:25] Speaker 1: No, Austin Reeves is falling.
[1:24:26] Speaker 4: He's trying to get them out of here.
[1:24:27] Speaker 5: They got to keep Austin Reeves out of here.
[1:24:28] Speaker 1: Really? They got no lemon daddy. Nah, man, they got
[1:24:30] Speaker 1: to keep Austin Reeves.
[1:24:31] Speaker 3: Look, Dog Connect is dunking that bitch two hands. We're
[1:24:33] Speaker 3: not getting the paint.
[1:24:34] Speaker 1: Get out of here. AR-15 did that same thing.
[1:24:36] Speaker 4: Get out of here.
[1:24:37] Speaker 1: Wasn't he the one dunking all motherfuckers? Nah, he wasn't.
[1:24:39] Speaker 1: When they couldn't score? No. Two people on LeBron, two
[1:24:42] Speaker 1: people on AD. Two people in the middle. Who else
[1:24:44] Speaker 1: going to score?
[1:24:45] Speaker 4: Step back over reverse pivot shot.
[1:24:47] Speaker 3: He's... That's it. He got two jerseys in the middle.
[1:24:49] Speaker 3: He done leaving. He Mike done leaving.
[1:24:52] Speaker 1: Who's your... I'm not giving you that. What team do you...
[1:24:53] Speaker 1: I'm not giving you that. I'm not giving you that.
[1:24:56] Speaker 1: I'm not doing that. Give me eight calves. No. Calves
[1:24:59] Speaker 1: and Pacers. Where you from? No. Okay, so where are
[1:25:03] Speaker 1: you from? Those are your two teams.
[1:25:05] Speaker 4: Okay, his favorite player was Kobe Bryant. So that means
[1:25:10] Speaker 4: he was a Laker fan for 20 years. No, it doesn't.
[1:25:13] Speaker 3: It means I was a Kobe Bryant fan.
[1:25:15] Speaker 1: Stop putting shit.
[1:25:16] Speaker 4: Why would you do that?
[1:25:17] Speaker 5: I was an Iverson fan. I wasn't a Philly fan.
[1:25:20] Speaker 1: So when you wore jerseys.
[1:25:22] Speaker 4: I didn't have any jerseys.
[1:25:25] Speaker 3: Not Laker jerseys.
[1:25:28] Speaker 1: Everybody was like, you can stop lying. You just had
[1:25:30] Speaker 1: Kobe Bryant jerseys.
[1:25:31] Speaker 4: You didn't have any Laker jerseys.
[1:25:33] Speaker 1: So it was just Kobe Bryant. What Kobe Bryant jerseys
[1:25:36] Speaker 1: did you have?
[1:25:37] Speaker 4: Eight and 24.
[1:25:38] Speaker 1: What team in the front was that? I don't know.
[1:25:40] Speaker 3: I turned it around on the other side.
[1:25:42] Speaker 1: I was going to do it with this. I like
[1:25:44] Speaker 1: the way it fit. I usually wear it. I'm really
[1:25:45] Speaker 1: from 2005. I'm really from that year. With the big
[1:25:47] Speaker 1: white tee? What are we talking about? Okay, okay.
[1:26:03] Speaker 3: We the originators. Come on, man.
[1:26:06] Speaker 1: You can't argue with this nigga, man. So we asked
[1:26:09] Speaker 1: the chat. I'm 300. You're an honorable man.
[1:26:10] Speaker 4: Kobe 8.
[1:26:10] Speaker 1: Kobe 8. Kobe 8. Kobe 8.
[1:26:12] Speaker 4: We asked the chat, was that a dirty play? Los Angeles, Bryant, Kobe,
[1:26:15] Speaker 4: and 8.
[1:26:26] Speaker 2: We asked the chat, was that a dirty play? 84%
[1:26:29] Speaker 2: said yes.
[1:26:30] Speaker 1: So there's been a lot of hooping going on since
[1:26:32] Speaker 1: the last time we were all on this couch together.
[1:26:34] Speaker 2: We got to show some love to a few guys
[1:26:35] Speaker 2: that balled out with a bocce time. Leave me alone, man.
[1:26:42] Speaker 1: Leave me alone.
[1:26:42] Speaker 3: You're going to keep fucking with me. Leave me alone, man.
[1:26:46] Speaker 1: Shai, you've given us some classics in our free time.
[1:26:49] Speaker 1: You got to be a lawyer, dog. Oh, God. Oh, God.
[1:26:51] Speaker 1: He going to get you. Listen, they going to get you.
[1:26:53] Speaker 1: If he did it, you want to get out of
[1:26:54] Speaker 1: your case? Hire him for sure. With a straight face,
[1:26:57] Speaker 1: he said, I don't know what's on the front.
[1:26:59] Speaker 4: I thought we were turning around.
[1:27:01] Speaker 1: With a straight face, though. What do you mean? We
[1:27:03] Speaker 1: have a sign. I do what I do.
[1:27:05] Speaker 4: I don't even know what I'm turning around.
[1:27:06] Speaker 1: We have a sign, swear, statement. Kobe 8, Brian 8.
[1:27:09] Speaker 4: We got a sign, swear, statement.
[1:27:12] Speaker 1: I don't know. I'll have it. is that whatever I bought,
[1:27:16] Speaker 1: I had it custom. Take that bullshit off. I told y'all,
[1:27:24] Speaker 1: leave me the fuck alone.
[1:27:25] Speaker 5: He went to the Sloss and Swab me, got the
[1:27:26] Speaker 5: Kobe 8.
[1:27:27] Speaker 3: Kobe 8, Brian 8.
[1:27:27] Speaker 1: Kobe 8, Brian 24. Fuck this. Nigerian. If you ever
[1:27:29] Speaker 1: in L.A., go to the Sloss and Swab me. You
[1:27:31] Speaker 1: need it. It may not be real. It may not
[1:27:33] Speaker 1: be real, but.
[1:27:41] Speaker 1: They're going to let him up just not to hear him.
[1:27:44] Speaker 3: I need the powder blue one.
[1:27:47] Speaker 1: I'm like, Rashad McKenzie, your client. Both of y'all come.
[1:27:50] Speaker 3: I'm done. He's done fucked with me.
[1:27:53] Speaker 1: At this point, I need a drink. You clear, Mr. Diddy. Go.
[1:27:58] Speaker 4: Go, Mr.
[1:27:59] Speaker 1: Diddy. You free. On that note, let's talk about... He
[1:28:02] Speaker 1: was never there. He was never there. He was never there.
[1:28:04] Speaker 1: He was never there. He was never there. He was
[1:28:08] Speaker 1: never there. I'm telling you.
[1:28:10] Speaker 2: We're going to talk about one of Gillen Brand's favorite
[1:28:12] Speaker 2: California cities, none other than Sacramento. So with DeMar DeRozan's sideline,
[1:28:17] Speaker 2: Kings needed someone to replace his production, and De'Aaron Fox
[1:28:20] Speaker 2: has stepped up to the challenge. So Fox dropped the
[1:28:23] Speaker 2: NBA season-high 60 points and seven dimes on the Wolves
[1:28:26] Speaker 2: in an overtime loss on Friday. Normally at hibachi time,
[1:28:29] Speaker 2: we don't support losing, but 60-piece is a 60-piece, so
[1:28:32] Speaker 2: we got to show it. He was 22 for 35
[1:28:34] Speaker 2: from the line, 6 for 10 from three, and 10
[1:28:35] Speaker 2: for 11 from the free throw line. then he followed
[1:28:42] Speaker 2: this incredible performance up. Oh, let's watch some more.
[1:28:46] Speaker 1: Oh, whoop, whoop, 60.
[1:28:47] Speaker 2: Like I said, high for the season.
[1:28:52] Speaker 1: One more.
[1:28:53] Speaker 4: Oh.
[1:28:54] Speaker 1: Damn, man.
[1:28:56] Speaker 2: Lefty then he followed that up by giving the Jazz
[1:28:59] Speaker 2: a 49 piece in a win on Saturday Going 16
[1:29:03] Speaker 2: for 30 from the field 3 for 4 from deep
[1:29:04] Speaker 2: and 14 for 19 from the line I bet he
[1:29:07] Speaker 2: wishes he made one more free throw to get that
[1:29:09] Speaker 2: 50 piece. He also had nine dimes in this game
[1:29:13] Speaker 2: So went for 60 Friday night 49 Saturday night, but
[1:29:14] Speaker 2: the 109 total points of In less than 24 hours,
[1:29:24] Speaker 2: it's the second most points scored over consecutive days in
[1:29:27] Speaker 2: the last 50 years, only behind Kobe's 110 points that
[1:29:31] Speaker 2: he scored on March 22nd and March 23rd back in 2007.
[1:29:35] Speaker 2: He had 60 on the Grizzlies, 50 on the Northern
[1:29:39] Speaker 2: OKC Hornets the next day.
[1:29:41] Speaker 1: Don't do it. We're not going back there. When you
[1:29:44] Speaker 1: said Kobe, I was like, don't do it.
[1:29:45] Speaker 2: No, just pointing out, Kobe had 110 points. Darren Fox,
[1:29:48] Speaker 2: 109 points. The past 50 years, obviously, we know we'll,
[1:29:51] Speaker 2: Allegedly had a 100-point game.
[1:29:53] Speaker 1: So, haven't seen the video. Do we have a back-to-back?
[1:29:56] Speaker 1: But I don't know if we have the next game. Back-to-back-to-back.
[1:30:00] Speaker 2: So, Fox averaging 29.6 assists, 5 rebounds in 14 games
[1:30:04] Speaker 2: this season on 51-35-84 shooting splits. Kings currently 8-6, which
[1:30:09] Speaker 2: is tied with the Wolves and Grizzlies for the 7th
[1:30:11] Speaker 2: spot in the West. So, first, I just got to ask, Gil,
[1:30:13] Speaker 2: as a seasoned bucket getter like yourself, how impressive is
[1:30:16] Speaker 2: De'Aaron Fox dropping 109 points on a back-to-back consecutive days?
[1:30:22] Speaker 4: I mean, it's hard to do, of course. You know,
[1:30:25] Speaker 4: you got to be in shape. You got to be
[1:30:26] Speaker 4: mentally focused. You got to be really engaged in the
[1:30:30] Speaker 4: fact that, you know, it is back-to-back because, you know,
[1:30:33] Speaker 4: after you drop to 60, the team that you're playing
[1:30:35] Speaker 4: next is trying to stop you. And the fact that
[1:30:37] Speaker 4: you go out and have 49 that game against a
[1:30:41] Speaker 4: great defensive team, it kind of shows what type of
[1:30:45] Speaker 4: score you really are. I mean, if you just watch
[1:30:49] Speaker 4: his skill set, I mean, he won Clutch Player of
[1:30:52] Speaker 4: the Year one year. He did do that.
[1:30:55] Speaker 1: He's a great bucket getter.
[1:30:57] Speaker 4: I think what overshadows his talent is just the city itself.
[1:31:00] Speaker 1: Mm-hmm. You know, if he was in a big.
[1:31:02] Speaker 4: Market, I mean, it'd be De'Aaron Fox everywhere because how
[1:31:07] Speaker 4: he plays the game, he's exciting. Fast, left-handed, quick, shifty,
[1:31:11] Speaker 4: can score. I mean, he has the ideal game of
[1:31:15] Speaker 4: what the youth looks for.
[1:31:17] Speaker 2: Yeah, so 2023, he made his only all-NBA team with
[1:31:19] Speaker 2: a third-team selection. We talked about this before, but if
[1:31:21] Speaker 2: he keeps playing at this level, obviously when DeMar comes back,
[1:31:24] Speaker 2: we expect the points to go down a little bit.
[1:31:26] Speaker 2: But you mentioned playing in that Sacramento market, not necessarily
[1:31:28] Speaker 2: a big market. Fine city, seven Chili's.
[1:31:30] Speaker 1: No, they can watch out.
[1:31:31] Speaker 5: No, we're busters compared to them, people at Sacramento. Somebody
[1:31:34] Speaker 5: was on the phone calling us.
[1:31:35] Speaker 1: Oh, we're going to talk about that in a second, Brendan.
[1:31:36] Speaker 1: You already know. You had the group chat buzzing this weekend.
[1:31:39] Speaker 5: I hope Darrington Fox gets out of there.
[1:31:42] Speaker 3: What's his name?
[1:31:43] Speaker 5: D-Fox. Hope he gets out of there. Talking about Wee Buster.
[1:31:52] Speaker 4: I hope he... De'Aaron? No, like, because he didn't say that.
[1:31:58] Speaker 4: Because you're so used to saying De'Andre.
[1:32:01] Speaker 1: But, you know, it's Aaron, so it'd be De'Aaron Dre.
[1:32:03] Speaker 4: Bro, that shit is the funniest shit in the world.
[1:32:06] Speaker 1: What's his name, man?
[1:32:08] Speaker 3: I don't think you've called De'Aaron Fox by his name
[1:32:12] Speaker 3: one time on the show. But I think if we
[1:32:15] Speaker 3: say it enough, we can make it stick.
[1:32:18] Speaker 4: De'Aaron Fox.
[1:32:20] Speaker 1: De'Aaron Fox. I like that name better, though.
[1:32:22] Speaker 5: Remember we were talking in the beginning of the year
[1:32:24] Speaker 5: about him being one of those guys that's going to
[1:32:27] Speaker 5: be in that mix of being first team, second team,
[1:32:31] Speaker 5: or no team, but he's averaging. He's going to average
[1:32:33] Speaker 5: damn near 30 this year.
[1:32:34] Speaker 3: He said he needed to average 28. We said he
[1:32:37] Speaker 3: would need to average 28.
[1:32:38] Speaker 5: Yeah, and he's averaging 29. But like you said, if
[1:32:41] Speaker 5: he was in a better market, that's 60, all that, bro,
[1:32:43] Speaker 5: that's going to build up. He's just in a terrible city.
[1:32:47] Speaker 3: My take was that if he averaged, he has to
[1:32:50] Speaker 3: average less for them to be a good playoff team.
[1:32:52] Speaker 3: But if he does more, it'll hurt them down the
[1:32:55] Speaker 3: stretch because you don't have a team identity. You have
[1:32:58] Speaker 3: an all-NBA guy. and then you have everybody else trying
[1:33:01] Speaker 3: to fit in. But if he's averaging less than 25,
[1:33:05] Speaker 3: the points is filtering out through somebody else that's actually
[1:33:07] Speaker 3: getting confidence.
[1:33:08] Speaker 1: Yeah, but with these two games, like I said, DeRozan
[1:33:10] Speaker 1: wasn't there. He was gone. So you're missing his production.
[1:33:13] Speaker 1: He's making up for it.
[1:33:14] Speaker 3: That's big for leadership, though, if he's making up for it.
[1:33:20] Speaker 5: Yo, who better, him or Tyrese Max?
[1:33:22] Speaker 1: I like him. Yeah, him. I like him.
[1:33:26] Speaker 4: More consistent.
[1:33:27] Speaker 6: So I hate that I lost my voice and I'm
[1:33:29] Speaker 6: supposed to be here all week.
[1:33:32] Speaker 1: No, don't worry.
[1:33:34] Speaker 6: But I think he's been doing this consistently since he's
[1:33:37] Speaker 6: been in the league.
[1:33:38] Speaker 1: He has.
[1:33:39] Speaker 6: It was just now because he got 60. But he's
[1:33:42] Speaker 6: been doing this. You just pay attention. That's what he does.
[1:33:45] Speaker 3: Yep.
[1:33:46] Speaker 6: And he got Sabonis and he got Murray over there.
[1:33:49] Speaker 6: So he got to shoot her, hurt her. And when
[1:33:52] Speaker 6: was McCall come back?
[1:33:54] Speaker 3: Monk on the bench.
[1:33:55] Speaker 1: I like him. I do.
[1:33:58] Speaker 6: And I want to light the beam one time. Just
[1:34:00] Speaker 6: so y'all know. Bring me out to Sacramento real quick.
[1:34:03] Speaker 1: I like that beam. Sacramento, fine city.
[1:34:06] Speaker 2: As I mentioned, they have seven Chili's in the Sacramento area.
[1:34:10] Speaker 5: They play bingo out there.
[1:34:13] Speaker 1: You said what, Brandon?
[1:34:13] Speaker 5: They play bingo in Sacramento. Nah, they was talking crazy. Bingo,
[1:34:17] Speaker 5: a fun game.
[1:34:18] Speaker 1: Enjoyed by a lot of people.
[1:34:20] Speaker 4: What?
[1:34:21] Speaker 1: You come up on both sides. I ain't real talk.
[1:34:23] Speaker 1: I feel bad for him. There's some good work in
[1:34:24] Speaker 1: the bingo hall. I really do. What you talking about, boy? What?
[1:34:29] Speaker 1: Be on somebody's mama in the bingo hall. Boy, you
[1:34:32] Speaker 1: get on the good hip. You get on her good hip.
[1:34:34] Speaker 1: Get on that good hip, boy. Woo! So, you know,
[1:34:40] Speaker 1: talk about... I feel bad for him because what I
[1:34:44] Speaker 1: said earlier... is reality, right?
[1:34:48] Speaker 4: As hoopers, we don't want to believe that there's politics
[1:34:52] Speaker 4: in business.
[1:34:53] Speaker 1: Okay. Right? We just hoop.
[1:34:55] Speaker 4: That's a fact.
[1:34:57] Speaker 1: And I know if.
[1:34:59] Speaker 4: I heard someone, a veteran retired player, say, you're not
[1:35:05] Speaker 4: going to make the all-NBA team because the team can't
[1:35:09] Speaker 4: afford you, And for the rest of those contracts. So
[1:35:14] Speaker 4: they're going to screw you. As a player, you don't
[1:35:16] Speaker 4: want to hear that shit. You don't want to believe it.
[1:35:18] Speaker 1: Right? You don't. But it is a reality.
[1:35:24] Speaker 4: Right now, no matter how good you play, if your
[1:35:26] Speaker 4: team don't match your stats, that is the easy way.
[1:35:31] Speaker 4: Right now, Steph, that's a guard. You got your boy
[1:35:37] Speaker 4: over in Cleveland, his record and his play. That's a guard, right?
[1:35:42] Speaker 4: Luka's going to be a guard. Ant-Man is going to
[1:35:45] Speaker 4: be a guard.
[1:35:46] Speaker 1: The boy OKC. Right, right? You got Shade. That's a guard, right?
[1:35:50] Speaker 4: So you got Brunson, but right now you got five
[1:35:55] Speaker 4: guards in three spots.
[1:36:00] Speaker 1: Four spots.
[1:36:00] Speaker 4: We're not even adding the Tatum and the Jalen Brown,
[1:36:03] Speaker 4: and we're not adding the KD. We're not adding them.
[1:36:05] Speaker 4: We're just talking about just the position you play itself.
[1:36:10] Speaker 4: It's Sacramento don't benefit for signing you for a Supermax.
[1:36:17] Speaker 4: You're a Supermax talent. You're a Supermax talent, but I
[1:36:23] Speaker 4: can't afford it. I would love to keep you, but
[1:36:27] Speaker 4: I can't afford that. Right? So if I want to
[1:36:31] Speaker 4: be successful and keep moving forward and build this city
[1:36:34] Speaker 4: around you, I can't afford signing you to that deal,
[1:36:37] Speaker 4: even though that's who you are. We're just not the
[1:36:39] Speaker 4: city to do it. We're not the Lakers. We're not
[1:36:41] Speaker 4: New York. We're not Boston, where I can sign two
[1:36:43] Speaker 4: motherfuckers worth $ 300 million.
[1:36:45] Speaker 1: I'm in Sacramento, dog. A fine city.
[1:36:50] Speaker 3: Here's the question. If you're D'Arenton Fox.
[1:36:53] Speaker 4: D'Fox.
[1:36:54] Speaker 1: Thank you. Right? We do what we want on this show.
[1:36:57] Speaker 3: Do you stay....
[1:36:59] Speaker 1: You have to.
[1:37:00] Speaker 3: For the commitment to winning. Commitment to winning. And take
[1:37:05] Speaker 3: what you just said, all the pitfalls that come with
[1:37:08] Speaker 3: staying in this market, knowing you're never going to make
[1:37:11] Speaker 3: the All-NBA, you're never going to get the credit you deserve,
[1:37:15] Speaker 3: but the city will love you. The city will love you.
[1:37:19] Speaker 4: The fans will love you. Now, if you leave, what
[1:37:21] Speaker 4: are you chasing?
[1:37:23] Speaker 5: What am I chasing?
[1:37:23] Speaker 4: I'm chasing my name.
[1:37:25] Speaker 5: I'm chasing my name. I'm chasing everything.
[1:37:27] Speaker 1: Yeah.
[1:37:27] Speaker 3: Now, when you talk about the game of basketball, what
[1:37:30] Speaker 3: does that have to do with winning?
[1:37:33] Speaker 1: But are we winning in Sacramento, though?
[1:37:34] Speaker 4: I'm asking the question.
[1:37:35] Speaker 5: I know, but are we winning in Sacramento?
[1:37:37] Speaker 3: You're on the way. You're building in Sacramento. You're not winning.
[1:37:42] Speaker 3: You're progressing in Sacramento. You're progressing in a good direction.
[1:37:47] Speaker 5: Do we have a chance to win it all?
[1:37:49] Speaker 1: Yes.
[1:37:49] Speaker 4: No.
[1:37:50] Speaker 1: No, they don't. So.
[1:37:52] Speaker 5: Me being there, I'm going to get everything. I'm going
[1:37:54] Speaker 5: to be loyal to this. I'm going to be loyal
[1:37:56] Speaker 5: to Sacramento. I'm going to do all this, get all
[1:37:58] Speaker 5: this money. But at the end of the day, I'm
[1:38:00] Speaker 5: going to still be looked at as like they're going
[1:38:02] Speaker 5: to talk about my career around a bonfire.
[1:38:04] Speaker 1: All right.
[1:38:05] Speaker 3: So if you leave, what are they going to say?
[1:38:08] Speaker 1: Nothing.
[1:38:09] Speaker 5: So if they're going to say nothing if I leave.
[1:38:12] Speaker 5: And nothing if I stay. No, no, I'm saying they're
[1:38:14] Speaker 5: not going to say nothing if you leave. Like, your
[1:38:15] Speaker 5: name is going to be brought up more. Like, if
[1:38:17] Speaker 5: you stay, we just know you for being in Sacramento.
[1:38:20] Speaker 3: Nah, but you the leader here. But if you leave,
[1:38:22] Speaker 3: you gotta go prove that.
[1:38:25] Speaker 5: And you'll be he can't with his.
[1:38:26] Speaker 3: Game the way he that's a risk that he gonna
[1:38:28] Speaker 3: have to take i'd rather take that risk that's you
[1:38:30] Speaker 3: leaving your kingdom to go be second fiddle with somebody else's.
[1:38:34] Speaker 5: But my kingdom i'm i'm the guy but i don't
[1:38:36] Speaker 5: get the reward the benefits and the rewards for everything
[1:38:38] Speaker 5: for just.
[1:38:38] Speaker 4: Being still the king of what the king's.
[1:38:46] Speaker 3: See what I've done there, see what I did there,
[1:38:49] Speaker 3: see what I did there.
[1:38:50] Speaker 5: But you also, but okay, and what is that, though?
[1:38:53] Speaker 5: How big is that? Like, what does that do for me?
[1:38:55] Speaker 3: What does it do if you don't have it at all?
[1:38:57] Speaker 3: You don't have nothing.
[1:38:58] Speaker 5: But he will, though.
[1:38:59] Speaker 4: You don't know that. That's a risk.
[1:39:00] Speaker 3: That's a risk a lot of superstars take.
[1:39:02] Speaker 5: He don't have it now, so if he goes somewhere
[1:39:04] Speaker 5: else to a bigger market, he's going to definitely have it.
[1:39:06] Speaker 1: Whose team is it? Depends on who it is.
[1:39:08] Speaker 4: Come on, man.
[1:39:09] Speaker 3: Whose team is it?
[1:39:10] Speaker 5: Who's team is New York's right now?
[1:39:12] Speaker 9: Mm-hmm.
[1:39:13] Speaker 3: See what happened when you deflect.
[1:39:14] Speaker 1: No, no, no, no. I know, but I'm just asking.
[1:39:16] Speaker 1: Cat went somewhere else, right?
[1:39:17] Speaker 5: No, Cat went somewhere else. But who team is it
[1:39:19] Speaker 5: looking like right now?
[1:39:20] Speaker 3: Still the guy's team he was before he got there.
[1:39:22] Speaker 5: It's not the way Cat been hooping.
[1:39:25] Speaker 3: The way you hoop don't change your team. It ain't
[1:39:28] Speaker 3: gonna change nothing.
[1:39:30] Speaker 1: It ain't nothing.
[1:39:30] Speaker 5: It's still my team.
[1:39:31] Speaker 1: That's fine.
[1:39:31] Speaker 5: But what I'm saying is the way it's looking, though,
[1:39:34] Speaker 5: what I'm saying is his name is still... Now it's
[1:39:37] Speaker 5: being looked at in a bigger light because he.
[1:39:38] Speaker 1: Plays for New York. No, but think about Brunson.
[1:39:40] Speaker 5: So that's what I'm saying.
[1:39:41] Speaker 1: But think about Brunson name being in New York, right? Yeah.
[1:39:44] Speaker 1: The king of New York on his play, right?
[1:39:46] Speaker 4: Just because the market he's in and he gets to
[1:39:49] Speaker 4: show what he does, it pushes.
[1:39:53] Speaker 1: Him in another atmosphere. An atmosphere that just certain cities
[1:39:58] Speaker 1: don't give a dude. Right? And that's what I'm saying.
[1:40:00] Speaker 4: You're averaging 29. You scored 60 and 49. And you
[1:40:03] Speaker 4: ain't splattered all over goddamn ESPN and all that.
[1:40:08] Speaker 1: Because it's the city itself. But he is splattered on Gilkey.
[1:40:11] Speaker 1: I'm being represented by Underdog. You don't think that's a problem?
[1:40:15] Speaker 1: I think that he did splatter all over.
[1:40:16] Speaker 4: The man scored 60 and 49. He's behind Kobe Bryant.
[1:40:21] Speaker 4: in the last 50 years, and.
[1:40:24] Speaker 1: It's not a fucking topic. It's not because we talk
[1:40:27] Speaker 1: about LeBron James, all of them.
[1:40:28] Speaker 4: But that's what I'm... No, think about that, though.
[1:40:32] Speaker 1: But just think about what I'm saying. Some do both. No, no, no.
[1:40:35] Speaker 1: But what market... What market is LeBron in? No, but
[1:40:40] Speaker 1: what I'm saying, like, shy, like, think about it.
[1:40:42] Speaker 4: The man's... There's only two people in the last 50 years.
[1:40:46] Speaker 4: He's one point behind Kobe Bryant, what Kobe Bryant did
[1:40:49] Speaker 4: in a two-day span.
[1:40:51] Speaker 1: And it's not news.
[1:40:52] Speaker 3: Because it's overshadowed by the other. Think about the timing
[1:40:55] Speaker 3: of it. The timing of it is LeBron's fourth triple-double.
[1:41:00] Speaker 1: Right?
[1:41:01] Speaker 3: And we got end season coming in. We got end
[1:41:03] Speaker 3: season coming in. We got the Cleveland Cavaliers are undefeated.
[1:41:07] Speaker 1: Their teams is fighting. Nobody cares.
[1:41:09] Speaker 4: Then you think about the Kings.
[1:41:10] Speaker 1: Small market? No, bro, it ain't about that. It ain't
[1:41:12] Speaker 1: got to do with.
[1:41:13] Speaker 5: The small market.
[1:41:14] Speaker 1: Besides Cleveland, you care.
[1:41:15] Speaker 5: Y'all didn't just have 59, 60.
[1:41:16] Speaker 1: Nobody was really talking.
[1:41:17] Speaker 4: Listen, if you're an NBA fan.
[1:41:18] Speaker 1: They're 15 and 0. Shit, I even watched the last one.
[1:41:20] Speaker 3: If you're an NBA fan, if you're an NBA fan,
[1:41:22] Speaker 3: if you're a basketball fan, you actually cared about that
[1:41:26] Speaker 3: 60 and you seen it and it was impressive. Yes,
[1:41:29] Speaker 3: so we can't downplay, like, the social media world and
[1:41:32] Speaker 3: the basketball world is the same thing.
[1:41:35] Speaker 5: But he lost with a 60.
[1:41:36] Speaker 1: It don't matter.
[1:41:37] Speaker 5: It does matter.
[1:41:38] Speaker 1: Devin lost with a 70. I know, and we don't
[1:41:39] Speaker 1: talk about it. Yeah, they do. No, we don't. Yes.
[1:41:42] Speaker 5: He's considered a hooper because of it. No, nobody brings
[1:41:46] Speaker 5: up the 70.
[1:41:46] Speaker 1: They only.
[1:41:47] Speaker 5: because he's young, but nobody's talking about that game like that.
[1:41:50] Speaker 1: None of them is 71. We don't talk about that.
[1:41:52] Speaker 1: We don't talk about it because he lost. His 60,
[1:41:54] Speaker 1: if he would have won, yeah, but he lost in
[1:41:56] Speaker 1: the 60s. We talk about it because he lost. No,
[1:42:04] Speaker 1: we lost because it was against Boston.
[1:42:05] Speaker 4: And it was at Boston. He lost and it was
[1:42:07] Speaker 4: at Boston.
[1:42:07] Speaker 1: I gave you a 70.
[1:42:08] Speaker 5: It's 70, but we don't talk about it still to
[1:42:10] Speaker 5: this day.
[1:42:11] Speaker 4: I don't hear about it. Maxie's 50 was more important.
[1:42:13] Speaker 1: Think about it.
[1:42:14] Speaker 4: Maxie's 50 was more important because of the city he's in.
[1:42:17] Speaker 4: It's more impressive than the dude who did 60 and 49.
[1:42:19] Speaker 1: It's how you get it. It's how you get it.
[1:42:22] Speaker 3: It's how you get it. See, the way he got
[1:42:24] Speaker 3: his 60, he can get that every other night.
[1:42:27] Speaker 1: He does. Look at it. Look at how he got
[1:42:29] Speaker 1: to 60. He does it.
[1:42:30] Speaker 3: But he doesn't do it at the high volume as
[1:42:32] Speaker 3: he just did it, right? So if he could do it,
[1:42:34] Speaker 3: this is what I said about Devin Booker. Dad, if
[1:42:36] Speaker 3: you can give me 50 like that and make it
[1:42:38] Speaker 3: look the way you did, you shouldn't have a problem
[1:42:40] Speaker 3: doing this every other night.
[1:42:41] Speaker 6: But if they win, we all know Sacramento, if he
[1:42:44] Speaker 6: brings them to the Western Conference Finals, we're looking at
[1:42:47] Speaker 6: them differently.
[1:42:48] Speaker 1: Yes, he's got it, but.
[1:42:49] Speaker 6: That Chris Webber, but that's going in that city. That's
[1:42:54] Speaker 6: what we're talking about.
[1:42:55] Speaker 3: But you know what I'm telling him?
[1:42:56] Speaker 4: No, we're going somewhere else.
[1:42:57] Speaker 3: Trash is really.
[1:42:59] Speaker 5: Out of there.
[1:43:00] Speaker 1: If he goes to the Wizards, if he goes to
[1:43:01] Speaker 1: the Wizards.
[1:43:02] Speaker 4: At 61, he will be on the news because it's
[1:43:04] Speaker 4: Washington or Brooklyn.
[1:43:05] Speaker 1: It's D.C.
[1:43:06] Speaker 4: That's not impressive.
[1:43:08] Speaker 3: That's not impressive, like, winning in Sacramento. Just having a
[1:43:12] Speaker 3: 60-point game in a random city like Washington or whatever.
[1:43:15] Speaker 1: That's not a random city, bro. That's a big city.
[1:43:17] Speaker 1: Sacramento is random.
[1:43:18] Speaker 3: So Jordan has 60, right?
[1:43:22] Speaker 1: Randomly.
[1:43:23] Speaker 4: Nobody gonna care, bro.
[1:43:24] Speaker 1: Yes, they are. In D.C., yeah, in D.C. No, it's
[1:43:27] Speaker 1: the sick biggest market. It's the capital. It's the sixth
[1:43:31] Speaker 1: biggest market. Sacramento is random. Sacramento is a random ass city.
[1:43:35] Speaker 1: They are the same. I can't believe they are the same.
[1:43:37] Speaker 4: Sacramento is the West Coast D.C.
[1:43:39] Speaker 1: No, it's not. No, it's not. Stop it. Stop it.
[1:43:42] Speaker 1: For sure. It's Washington, D.C. For sure. It's Washington, D.C.
[1:43:47] Speaker 1: For sure. It's small. Sacramento is small. It's the sixth
[1:43:51] Speaker 1: biggest market. It's small. It's the sixth biggest market.
[1:43:53] Speaker 3: The market's big, but it's small.
[1:43:55] Speaker 1: Are you serious? It's small. We're talking about markets. The
[1:43:58] Speaker 1: market itself. Did you just call Sacramento the D.C. of
[1:44:01] Speaker 1: the West?
[1:44:01] Speaker 4: Yes.
[1:44:01] Speaker 1: Sacramento smells like cow shit.
[1:44:03] Speaker 4: Stop it.
[1:44:03] Speaker 1: Okay. What are we talking about? Every time you go
[1:44:06] Speaker 1: off the plane.
[1:44:08] Speaker 4: We're just talking about the market. Not how big the
[1:44:11] Speaker 4: city is. We're talking about the market as for selling, endorsements,
[1:44:15] Speaker 4: all of that.
[1:44:16] Speaker 3: So where's all the Wizards endorsements and all that shit
[1:44:18] Speaker 3: with all their players? They don't have it. That's unfortunate
[1:44:23] Speaker 3: for a big market. And you can throw any of.
[1:44:28] Speaker 1: Your players into your big market pool and they can go.
[1:44:30] Speaker 4: Right now, who's bigger name-wise just for the world?
[1:44:34] Speaker 1: De'Aaron Fox or Kuzma? Oh, De'Aaron Fox. Kuzma. Kuzma.
[1:44:39] Speaker 3: What kind of scenario is that? First of all, Kuzma,
[1:44:41] Speaker 3: play for the Lakers.
[1:44:42] Speaker 9: Terrible scenario. Terrible scenario. That's a tough one. I didn't
[1:44:45] Speaker 9: say basketball. Terrible scenario. I know what you're talking about. No,
[1:44:50] Speaker 9: I know what you're saying. De'Aaron Fox or Kuzma.
[1:44:57] Speaker 1: I know Kyle Kuzma.
[1:44:58] Speaker 5: First of all, Kyle Kuzma is way more marketable than D-Fox.
[1:45:02] Speaker 1: Right now. We're talking about the... I'm not talking about basketball.
[1:45:04] Speaker 1: I'm just talking about right now.
[1:45:05] Speaker 3: But you're going to put him in a balloon and
[1:45:07] Speaker 3: let him.
[1:45:07] Speaker 1: Model a balloon?
[1:45:08] Speaker 4: I don't get it.
[1:45:08] Speaker 1: In the basketball world, we know De'Aaron Fox. In the
[1:45:11] Speaker 1: real world.
[1:45:13] Speaker 4: We're talking about Kyle Kuzma. I don't know.
[1:45:16] Speaker 3: If you're talking about the real world, I don't know
[1:45:17] Speaker 3: what real world that is, but you know Kyle Kuzma.
[1:45:21] Speaker 4: If they both walk somewhere, just randomly walk somewhere, both
[1:45:26] Speaker 4: of them, Who's getting recognized faster?
[1:45:29] Speaker 1: Kyle Kuzma. Kyle Kuzma did play for the Lakers, though, good.
[1:45:31] Speaker 1: Because he played.
[1:45:32] Speaker 4: For the Lakers.
[1:45:33] Speaker 1: Oh, because he's 6'9. He played for the Lakers. He
[1:45:36] Speaker 1: played for the Lakers.
[1:45:37] Speaker 3: When you're that tall, they automatically say, huh, I wonder
[1:45:40] Speaker 3: which one you are.
[1:45:41] Speaker 1: No, he played for the Lakers. I wonder which one
[1:45:44] Speaker 1: you are.
[1:45:44] Speaker 3: Oh, you're the one that dates the models.
[1:45:46] Speaker 1: Yes. Okay. So he's, yes. He's more famous for that. Duh.
[1:45:50] Speaker 4: The one that dates the models. Duh.
[1:45:52] Speaker 1: Okay.
[1:45:53] Speaker 3: But you're the one that's the all-NBA guy.
[1:45:54] Speaker 1: We don't know that.
[1:45:55] Speaker 4: If I'm not a basketball fan, if I don't know basketball,
[1:45:58] Speaker 4: we just grab a bunch of random people who do
[1:46:01] Speaker 4: not watch sports and say, who are these people?
[1:46:05] Speaker 1: Oh, I follow this. You know him more.
[1:46:09] Speaker 5: John Sally is more popular than Dee Fox.
[1:46:11] Speaker 1: Brandon. Brandon. Well, yeah. We all saw Brandon. Oh, yeah, we.
[1:46:17] Speaker 4: All saw Brandon.
[1:46:18] Speaker 1: But that's the problem. He wasn't Eddie. But this has
[1:46:22] Speaker 1: nothing to do with it.
[1:46:23] Speaker 3: Y'all do remember De'Aaron Fox went to Kentucky, right?
[1:46:25] Speaker 1: Yes!
[1:46:26] Speaker 5: That was random as hell.
[1:46:26] Speaker 4: He has a whole Kentucky family. But that's the problem.
[1:46:32] Speaker 4: His game, how he plays the game, he is not
[1:46:36] Speaker 4: getting credit. He has to go, you said he has
[1:46:38] Speaker 4: to go to the Western Conference Finals for us to
[1:46:41] Speaker 4: be like, oh, yeah.
[1:46:42] Speaker 1: Oh, shit.
[1:46:44] Speaker 3: His regular basketball skill.
[1:46:46] Speaker 4: Dame had to do the same thing.
[1:46:49] Speaker 1: Dame had to do the same thing. Hey, hey, hey.
[1:46:52] Speaker 1: This is perfect. Hey, it's perfect, right? No, it's not. No,
[1:46:55] Speaker 1: it's not. Dame is what?
[1:46:56] Speaker 4: Is Dame more marketable than D-Fox?
[1:46:58] Speaker 3: Yes.
[1:46:59] Speaker 1: Why?
[1:47:00] Speaker 5: Because he does more.
[1:47:02] Speaker 1: Is he in a bigger market? Is he in a
[1:47:04] Speaker 1: bigger market?
[1:47:05] Speaker 4: Is he in a bigger market?
[1:47:07] Speaker 3: Is he in a bigger market?
[1:47:09] Speaker 4: But how long did he have to do that to
[1:47:11] Speaker 4: get recognized?
[1:47:11] Speaker 1: And he still say he's not appreciated. Because if.
[1:47:15] Speaker 4: If he was with the Clippers, he don't need to
[1:47:17] Speaker 4: win no games.
[1:47:18] Speaker 1: He's in L.A. averaging 29-9 in what's-his-name.
[1:47:21] Speaker 3: De'Aaron Fox and Dame Lillard in Portland is in the same.
[1:47:24] Speaker 1: Who's been playing better for the last couple years? No,
[1:47:26] Speaker 1: they're not. Same breath.
[1:47:28] Speaker 3: No, I'm just saying the same breath.
[1:47:30] Speaker 1: No, they're not. I'll give you that.
[1:47:32] Speaker 4: They're in the same breath.
[1:47:32] Speaker 3: They're underappreciated because of the market.
[1:47:36] Speaker 1: Yes. That's what I'm saying. Dame is way more marketable. Damn,
[1:47:40] Speaker 1: but look. Why? What makes him more marketable? Because he
[1:47:44] Speaker 1: didn't go to Kentucky. Is that it? That's why. Yes.
[1:47:47] Speaker 1: Because everybody expected De'Aaron Fox because he went.
[1:47:50] Speaker 3: To Kentucky to do that right away. So then what
[1:47:52] Speaker 3: you're saying is.
[1:47:53] Speaker 1: He's a small guy. He came from a small school.
[1:47:56] Speaker 4: And then he did that.
[1:47:57] Speaker 3: All the Kentucky guys are on market.
[1:47:59] Speaker 1: All the Kentucky guys are on market. Cap! Name me one.
[1:48:02] Speaker 1: If he would have been drafted.
[1:48:03] Speaker 3: John Wall was the only Kentucky guy that was marketable.
[1:48:06] Speaker 1: What are we talking about? Kentucky. Devin Booker. Devin Booker.
[1:48:11] Speaker 1: Bookie Cousins is.
[1:48:20] Speaker 5: Way more marketable than D-Fox.
[1:48:21] Speaker 4: But look, he was getting fucked too because he's in.
[1:48:24] Speaker 1: The wrong city. He was in the same city.
[1:48:26] Speaker 3: He was in the exact same city.
[1:48:29] Speaker 1: But did we know more of him, though? We knew
[1:48:30] Speaker 1: more about Bookie, though. No, what I'm saying is Bookie
[1:48:32] Speaker 1: was way more louder.
[1:48:32] Speaker 4: If De'Aaron Fox would have went to, when he got drafted,
[1:48:35] Speaker 4: if he would have went to New York.
[1:48:37] Speaker 1: No, I mean not New York. If he would have
[1:48:38] Speaker 1: came to L.A. Or Brooklyn.
[1:48:40] Speaker 4: Or he went to Philadelphia, we're talking.
[1:48:43] Speaker 1: About a different player. For sure. His name is bigger. Like,
[1:48:46] Speaker 1: that's what I'm saying.
[1:48:48] Speaker 4: He has to average 29.99 to get the same recognition as.
[1:48:51] Speaker 1: A dude, Jerry McCain, right?
[1:48:53] Speaker 4: Jerry McCain is more popularized right now.
[1:48:57] Speaker 1: For scoring 20 and 30. But he's a social media star, Joe.
[1:49:00] Speaker 4: He's a social media star.
[1:49:02] Speaker 1: My son!
[1:49:03] Speaker 3: That's because you're going against De'Aaron Fox.
[1:49:05] Speaker 1: If we was there... No, I'm not going.
[1:49:06] Speaker 4: Yes, we are.
[1:49:07] Speaker 1: We're not saying he's not.
[1:49:08] Speaker 3: No, it ain't because.
[1:49:09] Speaker 1: Because we.
[1:49:10] Speaker 4: All watch the same game.
[1:49:11] Speaker 1: We're basketball fans.
[1:49:12] Speaker 4: Hey, man, we need to be looking at De'Aaron Fox more.
[1:49:15] Speaker 1: We're basketball fans. We're talking about real life.
[1:49:17] Speaker 4: Real life said, Jeremy Kane's production... on social media, on.
[1:49:24] Speaker 1: TV, was better than the 60 and 49.
[1:49:27] Speaker 3: Who's to say what real life is for that to
[1:49:30] Speaker 3: even be true?
[1:49:31] Speaker 4: Did Philadelphia even win?
[1:49:33] Speaker 1: Did Philadelphia even win? I mean... The games. No!
[1:49:35] Speaker 6: They didn't win the games, but Jared is all over
[1:49:40] Speaker 6: social media.
[1:49:40] Speaker 4: What metric are we.
[1:49:42] Speaker 1: Like.
[1:49:42] Speaker 3: If he's on your timeline, you'll see it. But I
[1:49:45] Speaker 3: don't see that shit on my timeline, so I don't
[1:49:47] Speaker 3: even know about Jared McKenna. You don't know nothing about him.
[1:49:51] Speaker 3: Is this the dude that be dancing with the nails?
[1:49:53] Speaker 1: Yes. Yeah. I scroll right past that. But you see it.
[1:49:57] Speaker 1: But you see it though, right? But you see it though, right?
[1:49:59] Speaker 1: It ain't there no more.
[1:50:01] Speaker 4: It ain't there no more. Because it's out of the algorithm.
[1:50:04] Speaker 1: Yes, I did. It came.
[1:50:06] Speaker 3: I'm in a basketball algorithm.
[1:50:09] Speaker 1: So I see it. Every two, three scrolls. De'Aaron, 60.
[1:50:12] Speaker 1: Let me see it.
[1:50:14] Speaker 3: I see it in this angle, that angle, and this
[1:50:17] Speaker 3: angle too.
[1:50:18] Speaker 1: What day was it? What day was it? Yesterday.
[1:50:23] Speaker 4: Tap.
[1:50:25] Speaker 1: Tap. That's a lie.
[1:50:27] Speaker 3: So we asked the chat. It was on Friday, but
[1:50:33] Speaker 3: we asked the chat, we asked the chat, does the
[1:50:36] Speaker 3: Arrington Fox need to leave SAC? 65% said yes. I
[1:50:41] Speaker 3: guess what day is it? Yesterday.
[1:50:44] Speaker 2: We got to talk about another situation, Brandon, that you
[1:50:46] Speaker 2: brought up. So this past summer, a few people on
[1:50:48] Speaker 2: this couch had the city of Sacramento in their feelings
[1:50:51] Speaker 2: after DeMar DeRozan signed with the Kings instead of the Lakers.
[1:50:54] Speaker 2: While I've repeatedly said that Sactown is in my top
[1:50:57] Speaker 2: 25 favorite California cities.
[1:50:59] Speaker 1: Top 25. Others don't share that sentiment. Top 25, dude. Yeah.
[1:51:03] Speaker 2: Up there with Baker, they got the big thermometers. A
[1:51:05] Speaker 2: lot of good cities throughout California. Others don't share that sentiment.
[1:51:09] Speaker 2: So on an episode of the Crash Dummies podcast, a Sacramentoan...
[1:51:13] Speaker 2: and a Sacramento fan called in and said it's on
[1:51:15] Speaker 2: site with some members of Zara crew who've been beyond
[1:51:19] Speaker 2: disrespectful to our state's capital.
[1:51:21] Speaker 1: I don't even want to answer a question that I
[1:51:23] Speaker 1: was asked.
[1:51:23] Speaker 6: This is what I wanted to get on here to answer, right?
[1:51:25] Speaker 1: Go ahead. Charlotte made the guy. He's a... Gilbert Arimus,
[1:51:30] Speaker 1: Brandon Jennings, all them.
[1:51:32] Speaker 5: on that podcast and make some hoes because they'd be
[1:51:34] Speaker 5: disrespecting my.
[1:51:35] Speaker 1: City, right? I'm from Sacramento, California, right? Why they be
[1:51:38] Speaker 1: this insane? I don't know why they do that. Look,
[1:51:41] Speaker 1: guess what this Charlamagne goes to say. He was interviewing
[1:51:44] Speaker 1: Magic Johnson. He goes, Magic Johnson, I just want to know,
[1:51:48] Speaker 1: when you got that, did you tell.
[1:51:50] Speaker 3: Yourself it was that no good dirty from Sacramento?
[1:51:54] Speaker 1: You ain't never even been to my city. You ain't
[1:51:57] Speaker 1: going to walk down these streets talking like that.
[1:51:59] Speaker 8: It's something that really do something to you.
[1:52:01] Speaker 1: Talking like that. Right? Then you Gilbert Arenas and them, right?
[1:52:06] Speaker 4: They got mad because DeMar DeRozan wanted to sign to
[1:52:08] Speaker 4: the Kings. Oh, why you want to go to Sacramento?
[1:52:11] Speaker 1: All them people ugly. Why you want to go to Sacramento?
[1:52:15] Speaker 1: Gilbert Arenas, you ain't even like that for real. You're
[1:52:18] Speaker 1: from the Valley of LA. You ain't from Compton or
[1:52:21] Speaker 1: nothing like that. Brandon Jennings, you're the best.
[1:52:26] Speaker 4: You was a wannabe. You had one good season.
[1:52:28] Speaker 1: All right? Stop it, you bum.
[1:52:31] Speaker 5: So do Brandon Jennings got to check in with you?
[1:52:33] Speaker 3: He can't check in with me because I can't keep
[1:52:35] Speaker 3: him safe.
[1:52:36] Speaker 1: We're checking in with you when we get there. You
[1:52:38] Speaker 1: got us, bro. No, my mother. You come here. I
[1:52:41] Speaker 1: got you. Y'all good. I ain't going to lie. Y'all good.
[1:52:43] Speaker 1: It's turning parts of that.
[1:52:45] Speaker 5: Y'all good.
[1:52:45] Speaker 4: I can't wait.
[1:52:48] Speaker 1: Ah, so, he said you, but then he said the
[1:52:51] Speaker 1: other bitch-ass N-words.
[1:52:53] Speaker 2: On the couch. I don't know who he's referring to.
[1:52:54] Speaker 2: As I said, I'm a fan of Sacramento. Y'all have
[1:52:56] Speaker 2: seven chilies in the metropolitan Sacramento area. Y'all know I'm
[1:52:59] Speaker 2: a big fan of chilies. Great menu item. The chips
[1:53:02] Speaker 2: and salsa are delicious. You got a Topgolf. You got
[1:53:03] Speaker 2: a Panera Bread. Spend some time there this summer. Airport
[1:53:06] Speaker 2: is very convenient. Got the little pizza spot. Pizza is whatever,
[1:53:10] Speaker 2: but I digress.
[1:53:12] Speaker 1: You name the club in Sacramento?
[1:53:17] Speaker 3: I was told I can't. use the word no more
[1:53:20] Speaker 3: identify so I don't know who they talking about.
[1:53:23] Speaker 2: I'm not I think it was mainly directed at two
[1:53:26] Speaker 2: gentlemen on our couch Gil and Mr.
[1:53:28] Speaker 1: B so I need to know from both of you what's.
[1:53:29] Speaker 2: Your response to this Sacramento saying you're not welcome in
[1:53:33] Speaker 2: his city.
[1:53:34] Speaker 4: Oh shit I'm scared.
[1:53:39] Speaker 5: I grew up in LA where we couldn't wear white
[1:53:40] Speaker 5: and black t-shirts and now I.
[1:53:42] Speaker 1: Can't go to Sacramento that would be problematic on certain.
[1:53:44] Speaker 5: Days I didn't dodge a lot of things I ain't
[1:53:47] Speaker 5: worried I have no business there anyway so I don't
[1:53:48] Speaker 5: care So why can't you be nice in case I go, huh?
[1:53:52] Speaker 4: She said, what?
[1:53:55] Speaker 1: Y'all stop laughing.
[1:53:56] Speaker 3: I'm being fucking serious. You're fucking laughing.
[1:54:00] Speaker 4: You got to be nice to these people.
[1:54:01] Speaker 3: They see me and they represent me with you.
[1:54:04] Speaker 4: If they hate you, I got to see them.
[1:54:06] Speaker 1: I'm not going to lie. Look at my roof. Look
[1:54:08] Speaker 1: at my roof. I got to live here. I got
[1:54:10] Speaker 1: to live here. They don't like you. They don't like me.
[1:54:13] Speaker 3: I was trying to tell him that.
[1:54:14] Speaker 4: He won't fight with everybody.
[1:54:16] Speaker 2: I was out in Sacramento for a few days this summer.
[1:54:18] Speaker 2: Definitely got a lot of dirty looks. Definitely people questioning you, gentlemen.
[1:54:22] Speaker 1: They said, why is Gil Hayden all set? I didn't
[1:54:25] Speaker 1: write the article. Listen, go to... The article was written
[1:54:30] Speaker 1: in April 20th, 2017 at 3.07 p.m. by Bill.
[1:54:37] Speaker 4: Number two, Sacramento topped by Baltimore. So they say Baltimore
[1:54:41] Speaker 4: is the ugliest. And you guys are ranked two as
[1:54:44] Speaker 4: the ugliest. They wrote this.
[1:54:47] Speaker 1: 500,000 people voted. I didn't vote. I'm just giving you
[1:54:52] Speaker 1: the news.
[1:54:53] Speaker 4: Uh-uh, I'm putting it just on him.
[1:54:55] Speaker 1: Don't put it on me.
[1:55:02] Speaker 4: No, just like the weather reporter.
[1:55:04] Speaker 1: He's just reading what's on. I'm just reading this shit.
[1:55:07] Speaker 1: I'm like, whoa. I'm just relaying the message. The message
[1:55:11] Speaker 1: came from. You're the vessel, Gil. Whoever from the Sacramento Bee.
[1:55:14] Speaker 1: That has nothing to do. Shit, y'all own this. That's
[1:55:17] Speaker 1: even worse. That's even worse. God damn, this is from
[1:55:19] Speaker 1: the Sacramento Bee. They wrote that shit.
[1:55:21] Speaker 8: Like, he's writing like, yeah, these some ugly motherfuckers out here.
[1:55:27] Speaker 1: Goddamn. And his editor looked at it like, yeah.
[1:55:32] Speaker 3: Send it tomorrow.
[1:55:35] Speaker 1: Send it.
[1:55:35] Speaker 4: This didn't come from the L.A.
[1:55:38] Speaker 1: Fucking Times. This came from the Sacramento Bee. They going
[1:55:41] Speaker 1: to be mad when they read this shit. They going
[1:55:43] Speaker 1: to be pissed.
[1:55:44] Speaker 6: No California hate over here. Just so y'all know, I.
[1:55:48] Speaker 1: Have California love. California love.
[1:55:51] Speaker 4: Don't get mad at me. I'm just reading what the
[1:55:53] Speaker 4: article said. I'm Like, damn, DeMar, why would you want
[1:55:56] Speaker 4: to go there?
[1:55:57] Speaker 1: I mean, years ago, times have changed. Sacramento vastly improved. Shod,
[1:56:02] Speaker 1: you love the city. Yes. Is Mayor Johnson still there? Yeah.
[1:56:07] Speaker 3: When the work ugly is easy. I'm telling you, I'm
[1:56:12] Speaker 3: telling you. I got him for days. I got him
[1:56:15] Speaker 3: for days.
[1:56:15] Speaker 4: What Buddha said is, okay, let's just be serious.
[1:56:19] Speaker 1: Let's just be serious. Like, who's the 500,000 people....
[1:56:26] Speaker 4: That day was like, all right.
[1:56:29] Speaker 1: And then y'all just put up cities.
[1:56:30] Speaker 4: Did y'all just look through people?
[1:56:33] Speaker 1: How did you vote this shit? Damn, y'all ugly.
[1:56:35] Speaker 4: Did they go through the DNV?
[1:56:39] Speaker 1: You're just going to just... The directory. They went through
[1:56:44] Speaker 1: the directory. It was like, damn. Y'all stay in this
[1:56:47] Speaker 1: one little area. Y'all stay in this area? Shit.
[1:56:50] Speaker 4: Y'all just like take the ugliest person from every city
[1:56:53] Speaker 4: and then just name a candidate.
[1:56:56] Speaker 5: Boom.
[1:56:57] Speaker 1: Y'all won. Y'all won. Y'all win every year, don't y'all?
[1:56:59] Speaker 4: Like Baltimore, like, yeah.
[1:57:02] Speaker 1: Okay, we know what this will look like.
[1:57:03] Speaker 4: Okay, then. Like, how did you guys vote this? This was, like,
[1:57:07] Speaker 4: nobody thinks about this shit.
[1:57:09] Speaker 5: Where was that movie, Aaron Brockovich? Remember that movie, y'all?
[1:57:12] Speaker 1: It was a great movie.
[1:57:14] Speaker 5: I just don't know where that came from.
[1:57:17] Speaker 1: Was that Sacramento? That was LA. Was that Sacramento? Probably.
[1:57:21] Speaker 1: That bad water. Oh, that might have been. I thought
[1:57:25] Speaker 1: that was Michigan. Mississippi? I'm just thinking about that.
[1:57:29] Speaker 4: I know there's some ugly shit out there.
[1:57:34] Speaker 3: I'll play the sax, so I don't got no problems.
[1:57:36] Speaker 3: We good.
[1:57:36] Speaker 1: I told you, Sacramento top 25.
[1:57:38] Speaker 3: Ease up, man.
[1:57:40] Speaker 1: It's them.
[1:57:40] Speaker 3: Ease up.
[1:57:41] Speaker 1: No, it's Bill. It's Bill. They called me out.
[1:57:44] Speaker 5: They talking about we soft.
[1:57:46] Speaker 1: Bill.
[1:57:47] Speaker 3: Bill said this.
[1:57:48] Speaker 5: They said Gil because Gil ain't from L.A. He's from
[1:57:51] Speaker 5: the Valley. You're from the Valley. Why you don't talk
[1:57:52] Speaker 5: to somebody who bring guns to the locker room?
[1:57:54] Speaker 1: I'd be scared. Bill. Like, he. Bill.
[1:57:57] Speaker 5: Bill.
[1:57:58] Speaker 1: I just read Bill's article. Uh-huh. It's not a Gilbert's article.
[1:58:02] Speaker 1: This is Bill's article.
[1:58:03] Speaker 2: Gil, you were kicking, though, reading the article previously. I mean,
[1:58:06] Speaker 2: I was laughing. Seven years ago.
[1:58:08] Speaker 4: I can't help it if I just Google shit. Like,
[1:58:10] Speaker 4: I go, hey, where's the fattest people at? They'll give
[1:58:13] Speaker 4: you a city.
[1:58:13] Speaker 1: Don't do that. Don't do that. I was in high school,
[1:58:15] Speaker 1: and it was, like, Indiana. And I was, like, in
[1:58:17] Speaker 1: high school in Indiana. And I was like, wait, what
[1:58:19] Speaker 1: the fuck? Say we got the fattest people. I typed
[1:58:21] Speaker 1: in everything.
[1:58:22] Speaker 4: Cheapest vagina in America.
[1:58:23] Speaker 1: It's going to give me a city. Like, I'm still
[1:58:26] Speaker 1: waiting for the valley.
[1:58:27] Speaker 3: Damn.
[1:58:28] Speaker 1: I was wondering for the answer. I was wondering for
[1:58:31] Speaker 1: the answer. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Who's the top three? Who's
[1:58:33] Speaker 1: the top three? Where's the top three at?
[1:58:34] Speaker 2: Vegas.
[1:58:35] Speaker 4: I got some.
[1:58:35] Speaker 1: Mississippi.
[1:58:36] Speaker 3: I got some freaking fire miles.
[1:58:38] Speaker 1: See, that's your $ 5. $ 5? $ 40. $ 40.
[1:58:38] Speaker 2: $ 40.
[1:58:39] Speaker 1: It's $ 5.
[1:58:39] Speaker 3: It just come with a cough.
[1:58:48] Speaker 1: It comes with a call. It comes with a call.
[1:58:53] Speaker 1: I can just tell you it's the same two cities.
[1:58:56] Speaker 1: We're Baltimore and Sacramento.
[1:58:59] Speaker 2: Like I mentioned, Sacramento, a fine California city. Please don't
[1:59:02] Speaker 2: pull up on me. Y'all know I don't like to fight.
[1:59:04] Speaker 2: I'm a man of peace and tranquility. You started all
[1:59:06] Speaker 2: of this.
[1:59:06] Speaker 1: I did not. You was like, let's talk about this today.
[1:59:13] Speaker 2: When y'all send things in the group chat, I respect y'all,
[1:59:15] Speaker 2: and I bring them on to the show.
[1:59:16] Speaker 3: You be dunking smoke, Joe.
[1:59:17] Speaker 1: I don't like it. I'm going to call your daddy, man.
[1:59:20] Speaker 1: Tell him. I ain't seen him in a while.
[1:59:21] Speaker 3: Yeah, man.
[1:59:22] Speaker 1: You've been stuck in Milwaukee.
[1:59:23] Speaker 3: You wasn't training your son to rob the liquor store correctly.
[1:59:27] Speaker 2: But I do have a special announcement. So in an
[1:59:30] Speaker 2: attempt to reach a truce with Sacramento... and helped us
[1:59:33] Speaker 2: mend these fences. We're going to be doing a special.
[1:59:35] Speaker 1: Gills Arena Live Christmas Day live from Sacramento. Live from Sacramento.
[1:59:41] Speaker 1: I didn't even tell you yet. So the address is
[1:59:45] Speaker 1: 5770 Freeport Boulevard. That is 5770 Freeport Boulevard. And as
[1:59:50] Speaker 1: a special bonus, if you're in Sac and you sign
[1:59:52] Speaker 1: up for the Underdog app using promo code Gil, I
[1:59:55] Speaker 1: will personally give you Gil and Brandon's hotel information along
[1:59:58] Speaker 1: with their itinerary for the day so you'll know exactly
[2:00:01] Speaker 1: where they're at if you want to pull up on them.
[2:00:03] Speaker 1: In Sacramento, it's only one hotel. Everybody knows. Especially Gil.
[2:00:09] Speaker 1: It's the same old thing. The Marriott.
[2:00:13] Speaker 4: That's it.
[2:00:15] Speaker 1: And the P.F. Changs. On the corner. On the corner.
[2:00:20] Speaker 4: We know it's the Waffle House that don't got the W.
[2:00:24] Speaker 1: So it's just Awful House. Awful.
[2:00:26] Speaker 4: Awful House.
[2:00:27] Speaker 1: Damn. But, yeah. How do you do this? Sign up.
[2:00:32] Speaker 1: Find another dog at this promo. Give me their iTunes.
[2:00:34] Speaker 4: You can pull up on them.
[2:00:36] Speaker 1: You can pull up on them. I want to go
[2:00:38] Speaker 1: to Sacramento one day for a minute. Man, it ain't
[2:00:41] Speaker 1: been hot in.
[2:00:41] Speaker 3: A minute, man.
[2:00:42] Speaker 2: But on a serious note, that was a joke, ladies
[2:00:44] Speaker 2: and gentlemen. You can Google the address and confirm it.
[2:00:47] Speaker 3: Somebody at home looking it up.
[2:00:50] Speaker 1: Oh, they already did. And they're going to find out.
[2:00:52] Speaker 1: That's not the place I want to tangle with these
[2:00:54] Speaker 1: gentlemen at.
[2:00:55] Speaker 3: Let's talk.
[2:00:56] Speaker 2: We got Greg Oden here, our special guest. You're going
[2:00:59] Speaker 2: to be with us for most of this week, man.
[2:01:00] Speaker 2: We appreciate you pulling up. You said you are a
[2:01:01] Speaker 2: Cleveland Cavaliers fan.
[2:01:03] Speaker 1: Normally we would not do this, but got to show
[2:01:06] Speaker 1: some love to the Cavs, who improved to 15-0 on
[2:01:09] Speaker 1: the season with a win last night over the Hornets. Yes, Gil,
[2:01:11] Speaker 1: I was watching League Pass. He's your friend, Gil.
[2:01:14] Speaker 2: So the Cavs are the fourth team to start 15-0
[2:01:16] Speaker 2: and are tied for the second-best start to a season
[2:01:18] Speaker 2: in NBA history, trailing only the 2015-16 Warriors, who, of course,
[2:01:22] Speaker 2: started 24-0. Previous three teams in league.
[2:01:24] Speaker 1: History to start a season 15-0, which are the 15-16 Warriors,
[2:01:28] Speaker 1: the 93-94 Rockets, and the 48-49 Washington Capitals, all made
[2:01:33] Speaker 1: the NBA Finals. What happened? You gave the police? You
[2:01:37] Speaker 1: gave the police station? So you know they Googled that
[2:01:41] Speaker 1: shit quick. They were ready. Pull up. See what happens.
[2:01:45] Speaker 1: We're going to find out.
[2:01:46] Speaker 2: But the previous three teams to start 15-0, yes, God,
[2:01:49] Speaker 2: do take this job very seriously, 15-0, all made the
[2:01:52] Speaker 2: NBA Finals.
[2:01:54] Speaker 1: At what point would you believe that this Cavs squad
[2:01:57] Speaker 1: is a legit contender? If Evan Mobley and Jared Allen
[2:02:02] Speaker 1: could stay healthy. Okay. Health as well. When I watch
[2:02:07] Speaker 1: them play, Jared Allen just brings something different to that team.
[2:02:11] Speaker 1: And Evan Mobley, he's that it for me right now.
[2:02:18] Speaker 1: Garland and Donovan are going to do what they do,
[2:02:20] Speaker 1: but those two is the key. Is that.
[2:02:25] Speaker 4: It's... We got our resident Cleveland... Cleveland fan over there.
[2:02:30] Speaker 1: Shout out Shug. Shout out Uncle Shug over there.
[2:02:33] Speaker 5: The first of the month.
[2:02:34] Speaker 1: In the middle of the day yesterday, he was like,
[2:02:36] Speaker 1: turn the TV on and watch Cleveland.
[2:02:37] Speaker 4: I was like, brother, I'm playing Call of Duty.
[2:02:40] Speaker 3: You better go find another TV.
[2:02:44] Speaker 1: I just killed two people in a row.
[2:02:46] Speaker 4: I ain't watching it.
[2:02:48] Speaker 1: He's like, you got six TVs back there. You ain't
[2:02:50] Speaker 1: watching that? No, I'm watching other sports.
[2:02:54] Speaker 4: But no, I told him, I'm going to go back
[2:02:56] Speaker 4: and watch the games because This is the NBA, right?
[2:03:00] Speaker 4: There's so much talent in the league, and the fact
[2:03:03] Speaker 4: that they are 15-0, they have to be doing something
[2:03:08] Speaker 4: fucking special because Donovan Mitchell is not averaging enough for
[2:03:13] Speaker 4: him to be taking over games, which means everybody is
[2:03:17] Speaker 4: playing well.
[2:03:18] Speaker 1: Everybody is on the same page.
[2:03:19] Speaker 4: So that means they're doing everything as a group to win.
[2:03:23] Speaker 1: So....
[2:03:26] Speaker 4: Just looking at the stats, just looking from the stats,
[2:03:32] Speaker 4: they are legit. This is not a fluke because this
[2:03:37] Speaker 4: is a team thing. Like, they're playing great as a team. Like,
[2:03:41] Speaker 4: this is one of those Detroit Pistons.
[2:03:43] Speaker 1: This is.
[2:03:46] Speaker 4: The Nets when they went to the finals the two
[2:03:48] Speaker 4: years in a row.
[2:03:49] Speaker 1: As a unit. Right.
[2:03:52] Speaker 4: As a unit, they're like, yo, we're playing great basketball.
[2:03:58] Speaker 4: We got to tune in now.
[2:03:59] Speaker 5: I was a little worried, though, in the beginning because
[2:04:01] Speaker 5: remember him and Darius Garland.
[2:04:03] Speaker 1: Right.
[2:04:04] Speaker 4: They were trying to say like they had to do something.
[2:04:05] Speaker 1: There was a report, yes.
[2:04:07] Speaker 5: So, like, they were trying to, like, they wouldn't be
[2:04:09] Speaker 5: able to get along. So, that's why I was like, oh,
[2:04:11] Speaker 5: they ain't going to work. But they turned it. I mean,
[2:04:13] Speaker 5: I can't say nothing bad right now.
[2:04:15] Speaker 1: They're hooping.
[2:04:15] Speaker 5: They're 15-0. Like, they're hooping as a team, a unit.
[2:04:19] Speaker 5: I mean, Don Mitchell's playing well. They're all playing well.
[2:04:21] Speaker 1: So, are you ready to accept? No, I'm not.
[2:04:23] Speaker 5: We got, listen, we got All-Star Weekend, we got May.
[2:04:27] Speaker 1: What do you think? We got All-Star Weekend and we
[2:04:29] Speaker 1: got May. You think you're getting out of this? Yes.
[2:04:33] Speaker 5: Listen, I thought it was going to be an issue
[2:04:34] Speaker 5: between Donovan Mitchell and Darryl Cigar. I didn't think they
[2:04:36] Speaker 5: was going to be able to get along, but it's
[2:04:38] Speaker 5: proven wrong.
[2:04:39] Speaker 3: Okay, you want me to tell you what really happened?
[2:04:41] Speaker 1: What happened?
[2:04:42] Speaker 5: They saw what I said, and then I woke them up.
[2:04:44] Speaker 3: It was JB.
[2:04:46] Speaker 1: JB Biggs half? Damn. The coach? Don't do that. But
[2:04:49] Speaker 1: how you saying that? And the Pistons are balling right now. No,
[2:04:51] Speaker 1: go ahead. No, go ahead. Don't do that. Why?
[2:04:56] Speaker 3: All right, so the report came out, right? Darius and
[2:04:59] Speaker 3: Donovan have a riff.
[2:05:01] Speaker 1: Yeah, right.
[2:05:01] Speaker 3: And it came out from an agent.
[2:05:04] Speaker 1: Hmm.
[2:05:05] Speaker 4: From who agent?
[2:05:06] Speaker 1: Right? Don't matter.
[2:05:07] Speaker 3: The agent is the middleman between the two parties. So
[2:05:11] Speaker 3: if we wanted to get this information out there to
[2:05:13] Speaker 3: digit a heads up, that ain't one of us going
[2:05:15] Speaker 3: to go if y'all don't make the change necessary.
[2:05:19] Speaker 1: True.
[2:05:19] Speaker 4: What's the change necessary? Where did JB go?
[2:05:22] Speaker 1: Detroit. Heard it to him. The Pistons are playing well
[2:05:27] Speaker 1: right now.
[2:05:27] Speaker 3: At the time, Monty left. They fired Monty. They needed somebody.
[2:05:32] Speaker 3: They needed somebody, right? JB's open. That's the worst job
[2:05:37] Speaker 3: you can get. So they gave it to Dwayne Casey.
[2:05:42] Speaker 3: It's trickled down.
[2:05:44] Speaker 1: So now, Atkinson has the job.
[2:05:47] Speaker 3: Who is he?
[2:05:48] Speaker 4: Where he coached at? What he did?
[2:05:50] Speaker 1: Nets Warriors.
[2:05:52] Speaker 4: He was part of the Warriors crew. They undefeated.
[2:05:57] Speaker 1: Same team. Different offense. Everything is different. You don't see no...
[2:06:07] Speaker 1: You don't see the picture? I mean, but.
[2:06:11] Speaker 3: If you undefeated, like he just said, we got to
[2:06:13] Speaker 3: find out what you're doing right.
[2:06:14] Speaker 4: He just said it. JB got better talent.
[2:06:16] Speaker 1: Wow, what it is that's making y'all click like that?
[2:06:18] Speaker 5: JB got better talent with Cleveland than he did in Detroit.
[2:06:22] Speaker 3: Yeah.
[2:06:23] Speaker 4: So it's, you know, But.
[2:06:25] Speaker 3: He's like you're being punished.
[2:06:27] Speaker 5: And Cleveland was already on the up, though.
[2:06:28] Speaker 1: No, they wouldn't. Not when he got there.
[2:06:33] Speaker 5: Yes, they were. They were showing signs of being good. No, bro,
[2:06:36] Speaker 5: they were like struggling. They got Donovan.
[2:06:39] Speaker 1: No, no.
[2:06:40] Speaker 3: JB got the job because they were struggling.
[2:06:43] Speaker 7: No, they were top five in the East. No, Cleveland
[2:06:45] Speaker 7: has not been bad the last two years. Look, he
[2:06:48] Speaker 7: built them up to that. He built them up to that.
[2:06:50] Speaker 7: When he got the job, they were struggling. That's why
[2:06:53] Speaker 7: they gave it to him.
[2:06:53] Speaker 5: I mean, he lasted for a long time.
[2:06:56] Speaker 1: He was there for a long time. He built them up.
[2:06:58] Speaker 3: What I'm saying is this last year, When they had
[2:07:01] Speaker 3: the rift between the two players and they got rid
[2:07:03] Speaker 3: of the coach, now they're undefeated.
[2:07:06] Speaker 4: What are you going to attribute that to?
[2:07:07] Speaker 5: Was it a rift between the players or was the agent?
[2:07:09] Speaker 2: According to reports, it was a rift between the players. Basically,
[2:07:14] Speaker 2: they were saying either him or me type of situation.
[2:07:16] Speaker 2: I think Garland's name was being mentioned in trade rumors. But, again,
[2:07:19] Speaker 2: those are just reports.
[2:07:20] Speaker 3: As we're seeing this year, they appear to be well-machined,
[2:07:23] Speaker 3: playing well together.
[2:07:24] Speaker 4: Nobody said nothing about the reports.
[2:07:26] Speaker 5: You know what's crazy? They love to put narratives like
[2:07:28] Speaker 5: that on young guys. Because they're so young and egos.
[2:07:32] Speaker 1: Why do you think the reporters look the way they look?
[2:07:34] Speaker 5: You got Darius Garland, one guy that's an all-star, and
[2:07:37] Speaker 5: Donovan Mitchell, that's a guy too.
[2:07:38] Speaker 3: It's him or me.
[2:07:39] Speaker 5: You know what I'm saying? Let's just make this riff.
[2:07:41] Speaker 5: Same thing they're doing with Jalen Brown and Jason Tatum.
[2:07:44] Speaker 5: Let's create this narrative to make it seem like y'all
[2:07:47] Speaker 5: don't get along or this and that.
[2:07:49] Speaker 3: They love doing that. And if it's one of them things,
[2:07:52] Speaker 3: if the coach is being manipulative and trying to be
[2:07:54] Speaker 3: in between the two stars and not bringing them together,
[2:07:57] Speaker 3: and they find out, I'll give you that one. You
[2:07:59] Speaker 3: know what I'm saying? They find out. Oh, he said
[2:08:00] Speaker 3: that to you? Oh, he ain't say that to me.
[2:08:03] Speaker 1: And that's wild. But they also brought back their vet
[2:08:07] Speaker 1: that can sit down and go, shut the fuck up.
[2:08:09] Speaker 1: You shut the fuck up.
[2:08:11] Speaker 6: This is how we did it, and this is how
[2:08:13] Speaker 6: we're going to do it.
[2:08:13] Speaker 1: So what y'all going to do?
[2:08:14] Speaker 5: Cavs are going to finish top three, but they're going
[2:08:17] Speaker 5: to lose to Bucks in the first round. That's what
[2:08:20] Speaker 5: I want. I want Cleveland first round.
[2:08:23] Speaker 3: I wonder why y'all be using the he can't be
[2:08:26] Speaker 3: number one option on the championship team as in, like,
[2:08:28] Speaker 3: why is that championship team shit? It's saving you because
[2:08:32] Speaker 3: they can't win the championships.
[2:08:34] Speaker 4: And for it to be true.
[2:08:36] Speaker 1: That's why I brought it up.
[2:08:36] Speaker 3: Yeah, because you're safe under that.
[2:08:38] Speaker 1: Yeah.
[2:08:38] Speaker 3: Because right now.
[2:08:39] Speaker 1: I'm not going to bring up.
[2:08:39] Speaker 3: Because right now, he's the number one option on the
[2:08:41] Speaker 3: best team in the NBA.
[2:08:42] Speaker 5: I'm not going to bring up.
[2:08:42] Speaker 3: So that, dude, your whole narrative is shut down based
[2:08:45] Speaker 3: on right now.
[2:08:46] Speaker 1: No. Right now. No, I'm going to.
[2:08:48] Speaker 3: Based on right now is shut down.
[2:08:49] Speaker 1: No, no, listen.
[2:08:50] Speaker 5: My narrative, every time I have a narrative, I'm going
[2:08:52] Speaker 5: to win, baby.
[2:08:53] Speaker 1: You lost, though.
[2:08:53] Speaker 5: No, my narrative is facts.
[2:08:55] Speaker 1: You lost. They not winning that shit. Bro. I'm not
[2:08:57] Speaker 1: going to put my.
[2:08:58] Speaker 5: When I say something, I know I'm winning behind it.
[2:09:00] Speaker 1: I'm going to just sit here and wait.
[2:09:02] Speaker 3: You ever seen Kill Bill? Yeah, Kill Bill 2, she
[2:09:06] Speaker 3: was in the box. The Gravestone, Reg, Paula Schultz. Why
[2:09:11] Speaker 3: are you talking about Cleveland? Are you a Knicks fan
[2:09:12] Speaker 3: or not?
[2:09:12] Speaker 4: She was trying to get out of the thing.
[2:09:14] Speaker 1: She was trying to get out. She couldn't get out.
[2:09:15] Speaker 5: Are you a Knicks fan or not?
[2:09:16] Speaker 1: Wait, she was doing what? She was trying to get out.
[2:09:18] Speaker 6: No, don't do that no more. No, I'll say you
[2:09:21] Speaker 6: ain't do that.
[2:09:22] Speaker 1: I ain't doing so what she's doing. Don't do that again. Damn.
[2:09:27] Speaker 3: You got to get out of that coffin, bro.
[2:09:31] Speaker 1: Donovan Mitchell. No, he's hooping, bro. I'm not... But do
[2:09:36] Speaker 1: we feel they're the best team in the league? No.
[2:09:38] Speaker 1: It's a given.
[2:09:39] Speaker 5: Best team? No, they're not the best team.
[2:09:42] Speaker 1: You're still going Warriors.
[2:09:42] Speaker 5: They're not better than Boston. They're going to lose to Boston.
[2:09:44] Speaker 5: So you're just going to put parameters... Didn't Warriors lose
[2:09:47] Speaker 5: to them? You're going to put parameters on it?
[2:09:48] Speaker 1: Yeah, and I'm still going Warriors. I don't know why.
[2:09:50] Speaker 4: You're going to put parameters on it.
[2:09:51] Speaker 5: Somebody didn't play for the Warriors that game, right?
[2:09:54] Speaker 3: You're going to put parameters on it.
[2:09:55] Speaker 1: I'm going to put parameters on it.
[2:09:56] Speaker 6: We're going stats. Yes, they are technically the best team.
[2:09:59] Speaker 6: But if we go on game seven... Who winning?
[2:10:02] Speaker 1: They're not beating Boston right now.
[2:10:03] Speaker 3: What do you mean, if we're going game seven, who winning?
[2:10:05] Speaker 1: If we're going game seven. They can't beat Boston, and
[2:10:07] Speaker 1: they can't beat Milwaukee in game seven.
[2:10:08] Speaker 4: They have the highest probability to win.
[2:10:09] Speaker 1: Well, I got to get to game seven. Who's winning
[2:10:12] Speaker 1: right now, today? No, no, right now. We can only
[2:10:14] Speaker 1: go where we're going with.
[2:10:16] Speaker 5: But in a playoff series, I don't see them getting
[2:10:17] Speaker 5: out the first round.
[2:10:18] Speaker 1: That's cool. I'm going to give them at least that.
[2:10:20] Speaker 3: But the stats go against that, right?
[2:10:22] Speaker 1: The stats are there.
[2:10:23] Speaker 3: They go against that, right? All right, I just want
[2:10:26] Speaker 3: you to admit when you're wrong.
[2:10:28] Speaker 1: So what if I don't know?
[2:10:29] Speaker 6: They beat the Warriors by 19 and the game was
[2:10:31] Speaker 6: over in the first quarter.
[2:10:32] Speaker 1: Do you think.
[2:10:32] Speaker 4: Cleveland better than your.
[2:10:33] Speaker 1: I still don't see it. Right now, they rolling. They rolling.
[2:10:53] Speaker 6: If they stay healthy, then that's when I'm going to...
[2:10:56] Speaker 6: After All-Star break, they stay healthy, then I'll be there.
[2:10:59] Speaker 2: Like I said, the previous three teams that started 15
[2:11:02] Speaker 2: and all made the NBA Finals, you think that the
[2:11:04] Speaker 2: Cavs don't continue that streak this season?
[2:11:07] Speaker 1: Like, they play Boston. They play Boston? In Boston, right?
[2:11:11] Speaker 1: That's going to be another challenge. And then from there,
[2:11:14] Speaker 1: it's Pelicans, Raptors, Hawks, Hawks. Their schedule is weak. They
[2:11:19] Speaker 1: play who? No, no, no, no, no. You can't say
[2:11:21] Speaker 1: the schedule's weak.
[2:11:22] Speaker 4: Like, they had to play a schedule first that had
[2:11:25] Speaker 4: to do with some good-ass teams, and.
[2:11:27] Speaker 1: They rocked them. They schedule weak. No, you know who
[2:11:30] Speaker 1: had a weak schedule? The Lakers.
[2:11:35] Speaker 4: No.
[2:11:35] Speaker 5: The Lakers.
[2:11:35] Speaker 1: Very difficult.
[2:11:36] Speaker 3: The Lakers, yeah.
[2:11:38] Speaker 1: The Lakers, yeah. The Lakers, for sure. Very difficult. No, no,
[2:11:40] Speaker 1: it was a team that he.
[2:11:41] Speaker 3: Look, look, look.
[2:11:42] Speaker 1: He like that.
[2:11:43] Speaker 3: He like that, Cody.
[2:11:44] Speaker 1: They won 11-12, right?
[2:11:46] Speaker 4: Right.
[2:11:47] Speaker 1: They down there with the Boston.
[2:11:49] Speaker 4: They down there with Chicago, Washington, Philly, and Toronto.
[2:11:56] Speaker 1: Who's that team go 12th in the East right now?
[2:11:57] Speaker 1: 4-9 currently. 4-9. Who's that? 4 wins? In 13 games.
[2:12:04] Speaker 1: Who was that team?
[2:12:06] Speaker 4: They damn near had a championship celebration after beating Detroit Pistons.
[2:12:12] Speaker 5: Man, let's get this live.
[2:12:15] Speaker 1: Hey, show the video again.
[2:12:16] Speaker 4: Let me show you what happens when you get a win.
[2:12:19] Speaker 4: This is what happens when you get a win.
[2:12:21] Speaker 1: Against Detroit. Detroit.
[2:12:23] Speaker 4: That's my man right there.
[2:12:25] Speaker 3: Yeah, he was outdoing you.
[2:12:26] Speaker 1: And the fucked up part is.
[2:12:27] Speaker 3: He was outdoing you right there.
[2:12:28] Speaker 4: The fucked up part is they needed a guy to
[2:12:32] Speaker 4: miss two free throws to go to overtime.
[2:12:35] Speaker 1: So it could have been another loss.
[2:12:37] Speaker 2: I can't wait to go to the arena live in
[2:12:39] Speaker 2: Milwaukee for the playoffs. We do have Underdog in Wisconsin,
[2:12:43] Speaker 2: so that is definitely in the range of possibility.
[2:12:44] Speaker 1: You mean March Madness.
[2:12:46] Speaker 5: No, for the playoffs.
[2:12:47] Speaker 3: In May, when we.
[2:12:48] Speaker 4: Y'all are not going to the playoffs.
[2:12:50] Speaker 5: Milwaukee Bucks is making the playoffs.
[2:12:51] Speaker 1: I was going to say, the March Madness in Wisconsin?
[2:12:53] Speaker 3: Milwaukee Bucks is.
[2:12:54] Speaker 5: Making the playoffs this year.
[2:12:55] Speaker 1: The playoffs? We're making the playoffs. Yeah, the play-in game.
[2:12:59] Speaker 6: What is the problem with y'all right now?
[2:13:02] Speaker 1: I'm asking you.
[2:13:02] Speaker 5: Injuries.
[2:13:03] Speaker 1: To who? No Chris Middleton.
[2:13:07] Speaker 3: That's the same injury you be using for the last
[2:13:09] Speaker 3: two years.
[2:13:10] Speaker 5: That's the same injury he's had in fucking 10 years.
[2:13:13] Speaker 1: That's what we have, is injuries. Excuses is what you have.
[2:13:16] Speaker 1: 34 don't have his brother. Now that is a big deal.
[2:13:20] Speaker 1: It's a lot. Injuries to the third... Listen, Doc told me,
[2:13:26] Speaker 1: close the door.
[2:13:26] Speaker 5: He said, listen, the things are going to change. What's
[2:13:29] Speaker 5: going to change?
[2:13:29] Speaker 3: Okay, we're going to change. Gail, stop.
[2:13:33] Speaker 1: What Doc going to say?
[2:13:34] Speaker 5: Doc told me things are going to change.
[2:13:36] Speaker 1: So I believe him. Oh, that's all he said.
[2:13:38] Speaker 5: That's it? Things are going to change. He likes the team,
[2:13:41] Speaker 5: and the team is young.
[2:13:41] Speaker 1: We're going to be all right. When you say change,
[2:13:43] Speaker 1: what do you mean? Trade it? Huh? Trade it?
[2:13:46] Speaker 5: No, we're making the playoffs.
[2:13:48] Speaker 3: That's all a motherfucker got to say to you for
[2:13:50] Speaker 3: you to believe it?
[2:13:51] Speaker 1: You expect a guy.
[2:13:52] Speaker 4: To come in 30-11 and try to get this? I
[2:13:54] Speaker 4: see why they bought season tickets.
[2:13:56] Speaker 1: It was easy. Y'all are gullible. Hey, hey, hey, hey, hey.
[2:14:01] Speaker 4: Hey.
[2:14:02] Speaker 1: Things are going to change. I'm the president. I'm the president.
[2:14:08] Speaker 1: Here's my money. Do the Trump dance. Do the Trump dance. Brandon,
[2:14:15] Speaker 1: I'm not going to lie to you.
[2:14:17] Speaker 4: Hey, man, hey. That is the new model moving forward.
[2:14:22] Speaker 4: Things are going to change.
[2:14:26] Speaker 1: Hey, if you cheat on your.
[2:14:27] Speaker 4: Girl and she catch you and you got to get
[2:14:29] Speaker 4: her back, just be like, hey, hey, hey.
[2:14:32] Speaker 1: Things are going to change. You better believe me. You
[2:14:37] Speaker 1: better believe me. Trust me. And we all know you lying.
[2:14:41] Speaker 1: He lying.
[2:14:41] Speaker 4: He lying.
[2:14:46] Speaker 1: All right, well, now let's move on to mostly fans.
[2:14:49] Speaker 1: We'll see it, man. This man said, man, he's going
[2:14:51] Speaker 1: to change. He walked out of there, zippered in the mouth. Man! Bugs, bugs, bugs, bugs, bugs.
[2:14:56] Speaker 1: He closed the door. Bugs, bugs, bugs, bugs, bugs. But
[2:14:59] Speaker 1: why you change after you win a championship?
[2:15:01] Speaker 5: What I'm saying, I couldn't. I didn't walk out happy
[2:15:03] Speaker 5: because I got pressed by Darvin.
[2:15:04] Speaker 1: Hamm right after. So I was boom, boom. Soft press,
[2:15:07] Speaker 1: hard press.
[2:15:07] Speaker 5: I was in there doing my job.
[2:15:09] Speaker 1: What did he do, man? I was taking, huh? What
[2:15:12] Speaker 1: did he do?
[2:15:12] Speaker 5: What you mean?
[2:15:13] Speaker 3: What did Darvin do?
[2:15:15] Speaker 1: Oh, damn. Oh, I hate that one. Did he grab
[2:15:17] Speaker 1: you like this?
[2:15:18] Speaker 4: No, no, no.
[2:15:19] Speaker 1: He put the thumb. He put the thumb in.
[2:15:21] Speaker 4: That whole grab.
[2:15:24] Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah.
[2:15:25] Speaker 1: Do it again.
[2:15:25] Speaker 3: That's when you go.
[2:15:27] Speaker 1: Ah, shit. I already know.
[2:15:29] Speaker 4: Ah, damn.
[2:15:31] Speaker 1: No, I loved it. I already know when I see
[2:15:35] Speaker 1: what's going to happen. Walking the other way. Nah, he
[2:15:38] Speaker 1: just said, nah, DM fool, man, DM fool. I'm going
[2:15:40] Speaker 1: to be just like this. Nah, he was just playing.
[2:15:43] Speaker 1: He was just like, keep that safe. Deebo. Deebo. Let
[2:15:46] Speaker 1: me just tuck my knee in.
[2:15:47] Speaker 4: I know you got something.
[2:15:50] Speaker 1: I know you got something. I know you got something.
[2:15:56] Speaker 1: Come on, man. So what did you say? I'm going
[2:15:57] Speaker 1: to be like, I want to spin wrist, man.
[2:15:59] Speaker 4: I want to spin wrist, man.
[2:16:02] Speaker 5: All I know is, if y'all Lakers ain't where it's
[2:16:04] Speaker 5: supposed to be at, Vegas?
[2:16:06] Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah. I'm already telling you. D.
[2:16:07] Speaker 5: Ham's definitely going to be sitting there.
[2:16:08] Speaker 1: Hey, I'm like, yeah, I was just reading the script.
[2:16:11] Speaker 1: They just gave me, I was just reading the script. Darwin? Like,
[2:16:14] Speaker 1: I was, it said right here, Darwin Ham, Bumpy Johnson.
[2:16:18] Speaker 1: I was just reading. Whoa. So, moving on. Are y'all
[2:16:21] Speaker 1: telling me right now that Darwin's just waiting on the down? No, no, no, no, no. No, like, no. Yes, yes.
[2:16:27] Speaker 1: Courtside seats. They threw him under the bus. No, no, no.
[2:16:30] Speaker 3: They threw him under and blamed him.
[2:16:32] Speaker 1: And blamed him. I don't think it's for a downfall.
[2:16:34] Speaker 5: I think it's just, like, you know, keep the same
[2:16:36] Speaker 5: energy for the next person. Like, you know, like, y'all...
[2:16:38] Speaker 5: I mean, at the end of the day, like, everybody
[2:16:40] Speaker 5: watches our shows, right?
[2:16:41] Speaker 1: They love that. They do.
[2:16:42] Speaker 5: Like, they watch us, though they are fans. So, at
[2:16:44] Speaker 5: the end of the day, he's just saying.
[2:16:45] Speaker 1: He didn't get a fair... Oh, listen. Okay, we know.
[2:16:48] Speaker 1: He didn't get a fair shake, of course. No. Uh... Okay, Gil, backtrack.
[2:16:53] Speaker 1: I mean, it's the Lakers, though. Like, we got to
[2:16:56] Speaker 1: blame somebody. We're not going to blame our players.
[2:16:58] Speaker 3: That's a fact.
[2:16:58] Speaker 1: No, no, that's a fact. As a Laker fan, we're not.
[2:17:01] Speaker 1: There's no Milwaukee person blaming Giannis, right? No, you're going
[2:17:04] Speaker 1: to blame Doc. That's just 100%. So we're going to
[2:17:08] Speaker 1: blame Darvin for not getting it right. Even though he
[2:17:11] Speaker 1: got there, he lost to the Saints. The reason he
[2:17:14] Speaker 1: didn't get back.
[2:17:14] Speaker 4: Is because who did he play in the first round?
[2:17:17] Speaker 1: Jokic. Yeah. Right?
[2:17:18] Speaker 4: We lost to the team that went to the championship.
[2:17:20] Speaker 1: And won it.
[2:17:21] Speaker 5: In the Western Conference Finals.
[2:17:22] Speaker 4: In the Western Conference Finals. We lost to them. They
[2:17:25] Speaker 4: won it.
[2:17:25] Speaker 1: If it was us there, we'd beat in Miami, of course. Right?
[2:17:29] Speaker 4: So we would have beat the same team. We lost
[2:17:32] Speaker 4: to him. Then we played them again.
[2:17:34] Speaker 5: Right?
[2:17:34] Speaker 1: So it's not him.
[2:17:36] Speaker 3: I'm not going to put words in his mouth, but
[2:17:37] Speaker 3: I think what he's saying is it ain't the coaches,
[2:17:42] Speaker 3: it's the players.
[2:17:44] Speaker 1: Whoa, whoa.
[2:17:45] Speaker 5: No, I don't think he, no.
[2:17:47] Speaker 1: No, no, no, he's saying keep that same image.
[2:17:50] Speaker 3: Keep that same energy that you have for the coaches. Like,
[2:17:53] Speaker 3: if you're going to have the same energy for me
[2:17:55] Speaker 3: when the ship sank, you got to look at J.J.
[2:18:00] Speaker 3: as the coach that's trying to give the same thing
[2:18:03] Speaker 3: I was given. I don't even think it's just JJ.
[2:18:07] Speaker 3: I don't even think it's JJ. I think it's just any.
[2:18:10] Speaker 1: Coach that has that position. I don't think it's just JJ.
[2:18:19] Speaker 1: We are accepting him. So whatever he's telling us to do,
[2:18:22] Speaker 1: we're going to do it. Right?
[2:18:24] Speaker 4: We was already bumping heads with you. So we already
[2:18:27] Speaker 4: looked at you sideways. Because we didn't respect you.
[2:18:30] Speaker 1: Yeah. You just got here. You know what I mean?
[2:18:33] Speaker 3: We got here.
[2:18:34] Speaker 4: Here's some things you did that made us look at
[2:18:36] Speaker 4: you sideways. So it's not like we gave you a
[2:18:38] Speaker 4: fair shot anyway.
[2:18:40] Speaker 1: Right? So we was hoping you lost so we can
[2:18:43] Speaker 1: blame you. With J.J., we're going to give him our,
[2:18:47] Speaker 1: you want me to run through the wall? Okay. You
[2:18:49] Speaker 1: want me to run through the wall? Why? Why am
[2:18:51] Speaker 1: I getting, why is this?
[2:18:53] Speaker 5: But why J.J., though?
[2:18:53] Speaker 1: But why for J.J.? Who the fuck is J.J. Reddick?
[2:18:56] Speaker 3: Hold on, you know who J.J.
[2:18:57] Speaker 1: Raider is. No, no, that's fine, but I don't know
[2:18:59] Speaker 1: who Darvin Ham is.
[2:18:59] Speaker 6: But I will say this, if y'all went to a
[2:19:01] Speaker 6: game and you could tell the difference, Darvin Ham's game,
[2:19:04] Speaker 6: he didn't.
[2:19:05] Speaker 1: Say a word all game until he got in the huddle.
[2:19:08] Speaker 6: No, you see J.J., hey, no, y'all motherfuckers need to
[2:19:11] Speaker 6: do this, you need to do that. Hey, Bron, no, motherfucker,
[2:19:14] Speaker 6: you missed that assignment.
[2:19:16] Speaker 3: You know why he's doing that?
[2:19:18] Speaker 4: Because pressure's on.
[2:19:19] Speaker 1: Never been an assistant. But you went to those guys.
[2:19:22] Speaker 4: Hey, Darvin stood there like this the whole entire time.
[2:19:24] Speaker 1: He didn't say nothing. He's never been an assistant.
[2:19:26] Speaker 3: And Darvin has.
[2:19:27] Speaker 1: And Darvin has. That's the problem.
[2:19:29] Speaker 4: If I'm an assistant, I have an assistant role, which
[2:19:31] Speaker 4: means if he's been an assistant for six years and
[2:19:34] Speaker 4: his job is to baby the guy, I don't worry
[2:19:35] Speaker 4: about it.
[2:19:36] Speaker 1: We're going to get you in. I'm going to talk
[2:19:37] Speaker 1: to him. And that's been your shit.
[2:19:39] Speaker 4: And then now you're now being Doc, and you've never
[2:19:43] Speaker 4: been that yet. See, it's easy for JJ to come
[2:19:46] Speaker 4: in and then just.
[2:19:48] Speaker 1: be the head.
[2:19:49] Speaker 3: Yeah, and make everybody adapt to him.
[2:19:50] Speaker 1: He never been number two first. You know, so.
[2:19:53] Speaker 4: If Darvin Hamlin would have never been a Western, just
[2:19:55] Speaker 4: like Chauncey, it's easy for Chauncey to just go in
[2:19:58] Speaker 4: and just be himself.
[2:20:00] Speaker 1: Right? He never had to kiss.
[2:20:02] Speaker 4: Ass first with the players get their Western in.
[2:20:06] Speaker 5: So do you feel like that's why a lot of...
[2:20:09] Speaker 5: Because I'm trying to figure out why isn't it more coaches? Like,
[2:20:13] Speaker 5: why isn't Sam Cassell a coach? Why isn't Rico Hines
[2:20:15] Speaker 5: a coach? Like, these are guys who run... Like, you know,
[2:20:18] Speaker 5: practices and do workouts and things. Like, why don't they
[2:20:21] Speaker 5: get a chance to be a coach?
[2:20:22] Speaker 1: Because you're going from.
[2:20:23] Speaker 4: It's like you're going from assistant to a boss.
[2:20:28] Speaker 1: But you've been doing assistant shit. Now you're saying, all right,
[2:20:32] Speaker 1: be a boss. And now, okay, cool. What happens then?
[2:20:36] Speaker 4: You're trying to overboss.
[2:20:38] Speaker 5: Isn't that the point, though?
[2:20:39] Speaker 1: This is who they did it to. Try to overboss.
[2:20:41] Speaker 3: They did it to the dude, Lloyd, that coached in Atlanta.
[2:20:46] Speaker 3: He was a workout guy. Great guy.
[2:20:51] Speaker 1: Great guy.
[2:20:52] Speaker 3: Is in Orlando.
[2:20:53] Speaker 1: Workout guy. Guy that was in Miami. Tisdale. Workout guy. Tisdale.
[2:21:01] Speaker 3: Workout guys. All got the opportunity, like you're saying.
[2:21:06] Speaker 1: That's what I'm saying.
[2:21:07] Speaker 3: How do they get in front of a Sam Cassell?
[2:21:10] Speaker 5: And guys like that.
[2:21:10] Speaker 3: And guys like that.
[2:21:11] Speaker 4: That's what he's saying.
[2:21:12] Speaker 1: Like, these are guys with proven... I mean.
[2:21:14] Speaker 5: Listen, Chris Brickley can get a head coaching job.
[2:21:17] Speaker 1: No, but I remember when I had... And that's not...
[2:21:18] Speaker 1: I'm not saying.
[2:21:19] Speaker 5: I'm just saying, just in general, like, these names, some
[2:21:22] Speaker 5: of these names, it's like, damn, like, they can get
[2:21:24] Speaker 5: a job before, like.
[2:21:25] Speaker 4: A Sam Cassell.
[2:21:26] Speaker 1: I was with.
[2:21:26] Speaker 4: I was with.
[2:21:27] Speaker 1: Like, Rico Hunt.
[2:21:28] Speaker 5: Like, dude, Rico Hunt know how to run a practice.
[2:21:30] Speaker 1: I was with Sam in Washington.
[2:21:31] Speaker 6: Are we not talking about the fact that This is different.
[2:21:37] Speaker 5: Yeah.
[2:21:37] Speaker 6: Because we're talking about all of them.
[2:21:39] Speaker 1: Okay, my bad. No, no, no. I like that. You're
[2:21:42] Speaker 1: not going to say it?
[2:21:43] Speaker 3: We're here to say it.
[2:21:44] Speaker 1: We're here to say it. No, but with Sam.
[2:21:47] Speaker 4: Because if you don't want to, send it to me.
[2:21:48] Speaker 4: When I was with Sam, Sam didn't want to be
[2:21:52] Speaker 4: a head coach.
[2:21:52] Speaker 1: That was then. I don't know if he's changed his mind.
[2:21:55] Speaker 3: No, he has.
[2:21:55] Speaker 1: For sure.
[2:21:56] Speaker 4: I've had multiple conversations. Sam, you ain't want that? Man,
[2:22:00] Speaker 4: ain't fucking with me, man.
[2:22:02] Speaker 1: You know, I'm waiting. I'm waiting. I'm waiting. But we
[2:22:04] Speaker 1: are in mostly fans now. I don't know if I...
[2:22:07] Speaker 1: To be honest, I don't know if I want to
[2:22:08] Speaker 1: be a head coach, man. Try. In today's game... Why not?
[2:22:12] Speaker 4: Because in today's game, you got to be able to
[2:22:16] Speaker 4: have the head coach and the general manager spot.
[2:22:20] Speaker 1: Right? You got to have money and.
[2:22:27] Speaker 1: In the bank, right? So if I'm just a.
[2:22:28] Speaker 4: Coach and you're my boss, you're the general manager, remember, you're.
[2:22:33] Speaker 1: Picking the team. I got to coach what you're picking.
[2:22:36] Speaker 1: If I can't make what you pick work, who are
[2:22:38] Speaker 1: you firing? Me. You're not going to fire yourself. You're
[2:22:42] Speaker 1: not going to tell the fans, hey, I fucked up.
[2:22:43] Speaker 1: I picked this. I shouldn't have picked this motherfucker.
[2:22:45] Speaker 5: Right?
[2:22:45] Speaker 1: No, you're going to fire me and get a new person.
[2:22:47] Speaker 1: Then you're going to fire him.
[2:22:49] Speaker 5: Listen, three for 30, I'll take the job.
[2:22:50] Speaker 4: So as a coach, as a coach, you want the
[2:22:53] Speaker 4: coaching job and you actually want the security like Pop.
[2:22:56] Speaker 1: Did, right? Like Pop.
[2:22:58] Speaker 5: Like Stan Bann was doing it.
[2:22:59] Speaker 4: Yeah, Stan, like you want both because you get to
[2:23:01] Speaker 4: pick your players and coaches. You don't have to worry
[2:23:04] Speaker 4: about firing because all I.
[2:23:05] Speaker 1: Do is just Pat Riley. I'm going to fire the coach, me,
[2:23:09] Speaker 1: and I'm going to just go upstairs.
[2:23:10] Speaker 3: Nah, that limits the ability of you being really a
[2:23:12] Speaker 3: good coach. You're actually handicapping yourself for the responsibility of
[2:23:17] Speaker 3: trying to pick players. This is why I say if
[2:23:19] Speaker 3: I was a coach, I would want the challenge of
[2:23:21] Speaker 3: just giving me the players that you're going to give me,
[2:23:23] Speaker 3: and I have to figure out how.
[2:23:24] Speaker 1: To make them work. You're fired then.
[2:23:25] Speaker 3: I got to figure out how to make them work.
[2:23:27] Speaker 1: You're fired then.
[2:23:27] Speaker 3: And so I got to figure out how to get
[2:23:29] Speaker 3: the best out of each player. That's going to be
[2:23:31] Speaker 3: the challenge for every coach is not to just have
[2:23:33] Speaker 3: a design format for every player to be the same
[2:23:37] Speaker 3: type of player you wish.
[2:23:37] Speaker 1: Them to be.
[2:23:38] Speaker 3: You got to go in with each year inside and out.
[2:23:42] Speaker 3: This player might have changed from last year. You got
[2:23:44] Speaker 3: to re-get to know him. You got to go back
[2:23:46] Speaker 3: and be like, yo, I got to figure out what
[2:23:47] Speaker 3: this guy actually like this year and next year and
[2:23:50] Speaker 3: a year after that.
[2:23:51] Speaker 4: But to be a good coach, you got to.
[2:23:52] Speaker 3: Understand you don't get to pick and choose what you get.
[2:23:55] Speaker 1: Yes.
[2:23:56] Speaker 3: But you can now. You can now. That's what's making
[2:23:58] Speaker 3: it easier. That's why the league is trash. There's no
[2:24:01] Speaker 3: boundaries for coaches.
[2:24:02] Speaker 1: Like that.
[2:24:02] Speaker 3: There's no, you've crossed this line, sit your ass down.
[2:24:05] Speaker 1: Yeah.
[2:24:06] Speaker 4: I don't give a fuck how much you make.
[2:24:07] Speaker 3: Now there's no fear of you making a mistake because, hey, look,
[2:24:10] Speaker 3: you got to play me anyway.
[2:24:12] Speaker 1: That fucks the game up. First off, nobody's going to
[2:24:14] Speaker 1: say that somebody's making $ 100 million. Exactly.
[2:24:16] Speaker 4: So you're telling me right now, right now, right? In 2001,
[2:24:21] Speaker 4: you coaching the Washington Wizards, right?
[2:24:24] Speaker 1: And they say, you got Kwame Brown. Why, yo, why? Why?
[2:24:34] Speaker 4: I'm just saying, that's who you got to work with, brother.
[2:24:36] Speaker 1: But why you think Kwame was trash, though?
[2:24:40] Speaker 3: How do you think that?
[2:24:42] Speaker 1: Honestly? Yeah, honestly.
[2:24:43] Speaker 3: Like, honestly.
[2:24:45] Speaker 1: Like, honestly.
[2:24:46] Speaker 3: I feel like most of the guys that came in 6'11, 6'10,
[2:24:49] Speaker 3: and up had some type of something, man.
[2:24:52] Speaker 1: No, no, no. Okay. The talent, skill, it was rough, right?
[2:24:59] Speaker 1: He needed skill.
[2:25:00] Speaker 4: He was out of high school.
[2:25:01] Speaker 1: He was out of high school.
[2:25:02] Speaker 5: That's him and Tyson Chandler.
[2:25:04] Speaker 1: Yeah, so basically he was raw talent.
[2:25:06] Speaker 3: Raw talent.
[2:25:07] Speaker 1: Fast, quick.
[2:25:08] Speaker 4: The problem, what is this? If you know you're lacking something,
[2:25:14] Speaker 4: you work on it.
[2:25:15] Speaker 3: If you don't know you're lacking something, how can you
[2:25:17] Speaker 3: work on it?
[2:25:18] Speaker 1: Then that's the problem.
[2:25:18] Speaker 3: You're supposed to be told by the people who draft
[2:25:20] Speaker 3: you what to do.
[2:25:21] Speaker 1: Or you're basically, the problem is this.
[2:25:27] Speaker 4: If you think you are it or you think you
[2:25:30] Speaker 4: know it, right? We've all been there. If somebody thinks
[2:25:34] Speaker 4: they know everything, oh, I know it, I know it,
[2:25:35] Speaker 4: I don't want it, you're not accepting anything.
[2:25:39] Speaker 1: True. Right? True.
[2:25:40] Speaker 4: You're not accepting knowledge because you think you know it.
[2:25:44] Speaker 1: That's the problem.
[2:25:45] Speaker 4: Hey, man, you need to work on your post moves
[2:25:46] Speaker 4: and do all, ah, I'm good, I'm good, don't worry
[2:25:48] Speaker 4: about me.
[2:25:50] Speaker 1: Okay, well, you need to get in shape when you
[2:25:52] Speaker 1: do this.
[2:25:52] Speaker 3: I don't, I've been doing it on my own. That's 90%
[2:25:54] Speaker 3: of the players.
[2:25:55] Speaker 1: That's not being hard-headed. You're being hard-headed.
[2:25:58] Speaker 4: Once we got our name called, we all became hard-headed.
[2:26:00] Speaker 3: That's 90% of the players. But like you, right?
[2:26:03] Speaker 4: You go against the grain, but you know you're doing
[2:26:05] Speaker 4: it on purpose. right like if i say all right
[2:26:09] Speaker 4: we're going through the shootout you're gonna be like i
[2:26:10] Speaker 4: ain't shooting but secretly you taking 10 000 shots right
[2:26:14] Speaker 4: to get your shit ready him i'm not taking 10
[2:26:18] Speaker 4: 000 shots fuck that that's the problem that was his
[2:26:21] Speaker 4: problem his problem wasn't that he didn't have the skill
[2:26:24] Speaker 4: the problem is he didn't want to do nothing like
[2:26:28] Speaker 4: it came to the point where it's like I'm scared
[2:26:32] Speaker 4: to try and fail. I'd rather just not do it
[2:26:37] Speaker 4: and then blame something else.
[2:26:39] Speaker 3: But what you're doing right now is you're validating the
[2:26:41] Speaker 3: fact that he feels the way he feels because he
[2:26:43] Speaker 3: was good enough to do that. You're good enough to
[2:26:46] Speaker 3: feel that way. Now, you're not good enough to feel
[2:26:48] Speaker 3: that way because you didn't get better, but you were
[2:26:50] Speaker 3: good enough to be number one. You were good enough
[2:26:52] Speaker 3: to have everybody envious of you being picked number one.
[2:26:55] Speaker 3: You're not getting better. Yes, that's on you. But to
[2:26:58] Speaker 3: say a motherfucker not good, That's different.
[2:27:02] Speaker 1: No, it's not. You're not good. You were good. The
[2:27:06] Speaker 1: problem is you were 18 good. You were good.
[2:27:11] Speaker 3: No, he was 11 years in the league good.
[2:27:13] Speaker 1: That was 13.
[2:27:15] Speaker 2: No, 13.
[2:27:15] Speaker 1: That was cheap. No, but look, this is what I'm saying.
[2:27:18] Speaker 3: So let me translate that to the whole word bus, right?
[2:27:23] Speaker 3: It's a very triggering word for those who didn't reach
[2:27:27] Speaker 3: the expectations that were put out for them.
[2:27:30] Speaker 1: Some people don't understand that dynamic.
[2:27:32] Speaker 3: When you have an expectation and you fall short, what
[2:27:36] Speaker 3: trauma that does to anybody who thinks it's a joke.
[2:27:40] Speaker 1: Yes.
[2:27:40] Speaker 3: It's traumatizing. I know about being called a bust. I
[2:27:45] Speaker 3: wasn't number one pick. I wasn't number three. But I
[2:27:48] Speaker 3: had an expectation. But what stopped it?
[2:27:51] Speaker 1: Injury.
[2:27:52] Speaker 3: Me.
[2:27:52] Speaker 1: No, injury. No, it wasn't injury. It was me. I
[2:27:55] Speaker 1: stopped me.
[2:27:56] Speaker 3: I stopped me.
[2:27:58] Speaker 1: See, but that's... Thank you. That's the difference.
[2:28:03] Speaker 4: You're admitting you stopped you.
[2:28:05] Speaker 1: That's the problem there.
[2:28:08] Speaker 4: He can't admit that, hey, they were picking on me,
[2:28:11] Speaker 4: so I didn't want to be in the... But you
[2:28:14] Speaker 4: know why?
[2:28:14] Speaker 3: You know why?
[2:28:15] Speaker 1: I know why.
[2:28:16] Speaker 3: Because you're still picking on him.
[2:28:17] Speaker 1: No, no, I know.
[2:28:18] Speaker 3: You're still picking on him.
[2:28:19] Speaker 1: I was there when he got there.
[2:28:20] Speaker 4: You're still picking on him.
[2:28:22] Speaker 1: He can't say me.
[2:28:23] Speaker 6: I said nothing bad about you, because I know how
[2:28:25] Speaker 6: he get on.
[2:28:25] Speaker 3: Look, this is what I'm saying, though. It's not a
[2:28:27] Speaker 3: defending thing. I'm going to say this, though. He can't say...
[2:28:30] Speaker 3: It's me when y'all still picking on me, making me
[2:28:34] Speaker 3: feel like it's you.
[2:28:35] Speaker 1: But it's no, but that's what.
[2:28:36] Speaker 6: You do in those who literally could not do right.
[2:28:41] Speaker 3: Like he could do, but that's what I could do.
[2:28:44] Speaker 4: And he just didn't do it. It's easy for him
[2:28:47] Speaker 4: to say, hey, listen, you know what? I looked up
[2:28:50] Speaker 4: to these dudes and they were picking on me. And
[2:28:54] Speaker 4: as a young kid, I didn't want to be around that.
[2:28:56] Speaker 4: So I didn't want to be in the gym with them.
[2:28:58] Speaker 4: I didn't want to stay after with them. Like, I
[2:29:01] Speaker 4: didn't want that. Like, this was a, these two motherfuckers
[2:29:04] Speaker 4: was negative.
[2:29:05] Speaker 1: Environment for me.
[2:29:06] Speaker 4: Doug Collins was fucking, I didn't want to be there.
[2:29:09] Speaker 4: So I'd rather just be at home. I didn't want
[2:29:11] Speaker 4: to go to the gym. You can say that.
[2:29:14] Speaker 1: That is reality. But don't pretend it's everything else.
[2:29:18] Speaker 4: That's real. That's real. Remember, I said when I got there,
[2:29:23] Speaker 4: I said, look, I thought I was the shit.
[2:29:26] Speaker 1: And reality kicked in. I'm not that good. I'm not
[2:29:29] Speaker 1: here yet. I was depressed.
[2:29:31] Speaker 4: I'm sitting on the bench. This is not the NBA
[2:29:34] Speaker 4: that I thought it was.
[2:29:35] Speaker 1: I'm not good enough. I am depressed.
[2:29:37] Speaker 4: I wanted to go home. I can admit that. And
[2:29:40] Speaker 4: Mark Jackson was like, no, dog, you him.
[2:29:43] Speaker 1: We just got to practice.
[2:29:45] Speaker 4: But that's what I'm saying. If you can't admit something
[2:29:48] Speaker 4: and you think it's everybody else's fault, that becomes a
[2:29:50] Speaker 4: problem because you're not trying to grow.
[2:29:52] Speaker 3: I get it. That's a fact.
[2:29:53] Speaker 1: That's real. You're not trying to grow.
[2:29:55] Speaker 3: When you're put in a position to play 13 years
[2:29:57] Speaker 3: in the NBA, right?
[2:29:58] Speaker 1: 13 years. 13 years.
[2:30:00] Speaker 3: Whatever I did in those years are acceptable for me.
[2:30:04] Speaker 1: Okay.
[2:30:04] Speaker 3: So if you don't, outside of what I accept, accept
[2:30:08] Speaker 3: what I've done with my years, what am I.
[2:30:12] Speaker 1: Saying to you?
[2:30:13] Speaker 4: I didn't play 13 years. I played four years.
[2:30:17] Speaker 3: And after looking at my per 36, for my four
[2:30:21] Speaker 3: years that I played, I don't feel bad about falling
[2:30:26] Speaker 3: short of the expectation because I know where I could
[2:30:29] Speaker 3: have been. I know what I was doing. And so
[2:30:31] Speaker 3: for guys like Greg, Kwame.
[2:30:33] Speaker 4: All the guys on the outside, it's like, all right,
[2:30:36] Speaker 4: I may.
[2:30:37] Speaker 3: Not have taken advantage of my ability in the NBA.
[2:30:40] Speaker 3: I might not have maximized my shit. I might have
[2:30:42] Speaker 3: gotten hurt early and I didn't rehab to the maximum.
[2:30:47] Speaker 3: I didn't take it as serious. Whatever the case may be,
[2:30:50] Speaker 3: everybody got regrets. But that's where the mental health come in,
[2:30:52] Speaker 3: where you got to understand there's other people going through
[2:30:54] Speaker 3: the same type of shit. And sometimes it's out of
[2:30:58] Speaker 3: your control. Sometimes when people then bring up those old scars,
[2:31:02] Speaker 3: you have to fight for yourself and you have to
[2:31:04] Speaker 3: attack everybody that's attacking you.
[2:31:06] Speaker 1: I get it. But that's the difference. Injury, injury. Y'all
[2:31:10] Speaker 1: had to accept something, right?
[2:31:12] Speaker 4: So when you say 13 years, right, I'm sitting back like,
[2:31:19] Speaker 4: if that's what you want to hang your hat on
[2:31:23] Speaker 4: is that you lasted 13 years, that becomes a problem
[2:31:28] Speaker 4: because of this.
[2:31:30] Speaker 1: Who you are.
[2:31:33] Speaker 4: Of 13 years don't match what you did because of this.
[2:31:38] Speaker 4: In our era, a healthy seven footer, a healthy sinner made.
[2:31:45] Speaker 1: $ 10 million. Kenyon, there was a guy, you was a
[2:31:52] Speaker 1: free agent. I heard the story of what you said.
[2:31:56] Speaker 4: There was a free agent who averaged three points and
[2:32:01] Speaker 4: three rebounds.
[2:32:02] Speaker 1: And got paid. What did you say as a free agent? Right? Shit, hey,
[2:32:09] Speaker 1: give me, hey, he averaged three and three and got that?
[2:32:11] Speaker 4: Shit, I can average six and six and double that.
[2:32:15] Speaker 4: A dude signed $ 42 million, averaged three and three just
[2:32:18] Speaker 4: because he was a big man. He said, shit, give
[2:32:21] Speaker 4: me 80 fucking four, I'll give you six and six.
[2:32:25] Speaker 1: That was it right now.
[2:32:26] Speaker 4: So I'm saying, like, don't blame everybody else for what
[2:32:32] Speaker 4: you decided to do.
[2:32:33] Speaker 1: You decided to be.
[2:32:34] Speaker 3: But that's where I'm at with it. I'm at this
[2:32:36] Speaker 3: point where even for Kwame, even for guys who've been
[2:32:38] Speaker 3: in the position of the traumatic experience... of blaming the
[2:32:42] Speaker 3: whole experience. You've been blaming because you've turned into an investigator.
[2:32:46] Speaker 3: We're trying to find out why this happened. What happened?
[2:32:50] Speaker 3: Why it happened? How did it get here where this
[2:32:53] Speaker 3: is not good enough for the people who I'm playing for?
[2:32:55] Speaker 3: The numbers I'm giving you ain't good enough. Okay, I
[2:32:58] Speaker 3: need to do more. But mentally, when you quit the
[2:33:01] Speaker 3: game and you look back and you're like, damn, motherfuckers
[2:33:03] Speaker 3: really not fucking with all the.
[2:33:05] Speaker 1: Work I put in?
[2:33:08] Speaker 4: What?
[2:33:09] Speaker 6: I don't think people are owning that shit.
[2:33:11] Speaker 1: I mean, that's kind of where I'm at right now.
[2:33:12] Speaker 1: But see, that's the problem. You own your own shit.
[2:33:14] Speaker 4: I want them all to own it.
[2:33:16] Speaker 3: I want us all to be accountable, not only for
[2:33:19] Speaker 3: what has happened in our careers, but where we are
[2:33:22] Speaker 3: right now. All the former athletes are struggling and trying
[2:33:26] Speaker 3: to figure out. You can't grow if you don't own
[2:33:28] Speaker 3: your shit.
[2:33:29] Speaker 4: Man, I want to come on.
[2:33:29] Speaker 3: I have so many players. I want to come on
[2:33:31] Speaker 3: the pod.
[2:33:31] Speaker 4: I want to tell my story. I want to tell
[2:33:32] Speaker 4: my story.
[2:33:32] Speaker 3: I want to tell my story.
[2:33:33] Speaker 4: I know what your story is.
[2:33:34] Speaker 3: I went through it. Let me tell your story from
[2:33:37] Speaker 3: my lens and then see if that can help you
[2:33:39] Speaker 3: a little bit.
[2:33:40] Speaker 1: Yeah.
[2:33:41] Speaker 3: Accountability, bro.
[2:33:41] Speaker 4: This is all our fault.
[2:33:43] Speaker 1: You know, I'm not going to lie. Udonis Haslam said
[2:33:45] Speaker 1: some shit to me. He was like, dude, you was
[2:33:48] Speaker 1: out to leave for three years, rehabbing every day. And
[2:33:52] Speaker 1: I was sitting there like.
[2:33:54] Speaker 6: Shit, I ain't even thinking of it, because I just
[2:33:56] Speaker 6: had the mold.
[2:33:56] Speaker 1: I was like, I'm getting back. I'm going to get there.
[2:33:59] Speaker 6: But also, we're at this point now that we got
[2:34:02] Speaker 6: to own our own shit. Like, everything I did, everything
[2:34:05] Speaker 6: I just said, it's in the past, but it's still
[2:34:07] Speaker 6: part of my fucking story.
[2:34:08] Speaker 1: I can't change that shit. That's why I hate them motherfuckers. Yeah, yeah.
[2:34:12] Speaker 6: No, that motherfucker blew the whistle. What you talking about?
[2:34:14] Speaker 1: It's done. It's called. That's what I'm saying.
[2:34:18] Speaker 3: What you talking about?
[2:34:20] Speaker 4: And that's why I keep poking. Because you don't want
[2:34:22] Speaker 4: to own it.
[2:34:23] Speaker 1: Don't change.
[2:34:25] Speaker 4: Don't change the history. The history is the history. You
[2:34:28] Speaker 4: still alive, dog. You can still tell your story. Don't
[2:34:33] Speaker 4: tell a story that you created to survive.
[2:34:38] Speaker 1: Tell your actual story. Your story is your story.
[2:34:43] Speaker 4: You can't run from it and pretend you were something else.
[2:34:46] Speaker 3: But you can help.
[2:34:47] Speaker 1: No, I tried.
[2:34:51] Speaker 3: You could try harder.
[2:34:51] Speaker 1: Now I just want to poke.
[2:34:52] Speaker 3: You could try harder, man.
[2:34:53] Speaker 1: I just want to poke.
[2:34:55] Speaker 3: Because if that bridge between you and him can be mended,
[2:34:58] Speaker 3: it can help a lot of.
[2:35:00] Speaker 1: Other people see it.
[2:35:00] Speaker 4: Like, even me, I'm sitting here like, okay, you had
[2:35:03] Speaker 4: Jordan or 18. Like, I, you know, me, I was,
[2:35:06] Speaker 4: you know, I had run-ins with Jordans, right? So I
[2:35:10] Speaker 4: know mentally how he is, right?
[2:35:11] Speaker 1: Right, right. I got to Washington. After.
[2:35:16] Speaker 4: Right. So I see the effect on me and him
[2:35:19] Speaker 4: never had a problem because I already knew what he
[2:35:21] Speaker 4: was going through. Right.
[2:35:22] Speaker 1: I already knew.
[2:35:23] Speaker 4: OK, let me just let me just not even even
[2:35:25] Speaker 4: go there.
[2:35:26] Speaker 3: Right.
[2:35:26] Speaker 4: So when he missed shots or this, I never said
[2:35:29] Speaker 4: I never said not a motherfucking thing.
[2:35:31] Speaker 1: I just let him be him.
[2:35:32] Speaker 3: Right.
[2:35:33] Speaker 4: Because I knew it mentally is going to take a couple.
[2:35:35] Speaker 4: It's going to take some time.
[2:35:37] Speaker 1: He goes from MJ. Then he goes over to Colt. Oh, goddamn. Worse. Oh, goddamn.
[2:35:45] Speaker 1: That's a 40-year-old fucker.
[2:35:46] Speaker 4: Worse.
[2:35:46] Speaker 1: Now you're going to damn near 20-something, oh, you're in trouble. Right?
[2:35:50] Speaker 1: That's why I never said, I always... So imagine the
[2:35:52] Speaker 1: whoopings he'd been taking. Of course.
[2:35:54] Speaker 3: And then he's like, he thinking, y'all can't whoop me.
[2:35:57] Speaker 3: I'm about to whoop on y'all. Y'all ain't MJ and Cole.
[2:36:01] Speaker 3: I don't give a fuck what y'all talking... So that's
[2:36:03] Speaker 3: the energy that's been going back and forth.
[2:36:06] Speaker 5: It's like.
[2:36:06] Speaker 1: But you got to say.
[2:36:07] Speaker 3: It, though.
[2:36:08] Speaker 4: Like, the only reason we having a problem is I'm
[2:36:13] Speaker 4: telling you who you are. I don't know what you created,
[2:36:17] Speaker 4: but you can't grow if you keep pretending you was
[2:36:21] Speaker 4: something else. You pretending that if you played 36 minutes,
[2:36:25] Speaker 4: you would have, per 36, you would average 11. You
[2:36:27] Speaker 4: average nine, 11, goddammit, but you played 37 minutes. Grow,
[2:36:33] Speaker 4: because if you can't heal yourself, you can't move forward.
[2:36:37] Speaker 4: Like me, the gun thing, I'm mad that they told
[2:36:42] Speaker 4: on me.
[2:36:43] Speaker 1: Not realizing, motherfucker, I'm the cause of it.
[2:36:46] Speaker 4: If I didn't do my part, there wouldn't have been
[2:36:48] Speaker 4: no tale. But I can't keep blaming them for looking
[2:36:52] Speaker 4: out for themselves. I should have looked out for myself.
[2:36:54] Speaker 4: But there was a period of time where I'm looking
[2:36:57] Speaker 4: at them.
[2:36:57] Speaker 1: Oh, I was a franchise guy. This is how they
[2:36:59] Speaker 1: did me. I'm not growing.
[2:37:00] Speaker 4: It's all black energy. When I had to look back
[2:37:05] Speaker 4: and say... If I wouldn't have done my part, then
[2:37:13] Speaker 4: they wouldn't have done their part.
[2:37:15] Speaker 1: It's me. It's my problem. I got up. Wait, hold on.
[2:37:20] Speaker 1: Kwame and Kobe and that motherfucker was like, no, give
[2:37:24] Speaker 1: him the ball again. We was watching that. I was
[2:37:26] Speaker 1: watching that motherfucker game. No, give him the ball again. Fuck.
[2:37:30] Speaker 6: Terrible-ass motherfucker. Like, talking shit to his own teammate. That's
[2:37:33] Speaker 6: disrespectful to the motherfucker. Give him the ball.
[2:37:36] Speaker 1: That's tough. That's tough to go through. And that's where...
[2:37:39] Speaker 1: That's where... That's where the growth should have happened early, right?
[2:37:47] Speaker 4: When someone like Kobe's like, no, no, because you got
[2:37:49] Speaker 4: to remember, when Kobe, he told Kobe, I don't want
[2:37:52] Speaker 4: the ball. So Kobe's like, no, you're going to keep
[2:37:54] Speaker 4: giving that motherfucker the ball.
[2:37:56] Speaker 1: Keep giving it to him. Fuck him.
[2:37:58] Speaker 4: And trying to make him grow, but that's Kobe's mind.
[2:38:01] Speaker 4: He don't want it.
[2:38:02] Speaker 1: No, we're going to keep giving it to him. But
[2:38:04] Speaker 1: the problem already started a long time ago. But that's
[2:38:07] Speaker 1: what I'm saying.
[2:38:07] Speaker 4: But the problem is watching a teammate like Watching a
[2:38:13] Speaker 4: teammate sit there every day like, yo, if you just
[2:38:17] Speaker 4: tell your story, trust me, the world gets lifted from you.
[2:38:22] Speaker 1: I know.
[2:38:22] Speaker 4: You're holding on. The more you keep lying.
[2:38:25] Speaker 3: About who you were. It's pent up.
[2:38:27] Speaker 4: But I'm saying, the more you keep lying about who
[2:38:29] Speaker 4: you are, the more you can't walk.
[2:38:31] Speaker 3: I know, but look.
[2:38:32] Speaker 1: North Carolina.
[2:38:33] Speaker 3: This is the problem.
[2:38:33] Speaker 1: Now, how you feel after that, though?
[2:38:35] Speaker 3: It's because people are trying to tell you who you are.
[2:38:38] Speaker 1: Because they see. No, no, no.
[2:38:40] Speaker 4: That's what's happening.
[2:38:41] Speaker 1: The people who was there is trying to tell you
[2:38:43] Speaker 1: who you are. Yeah, whoever. Whoever.
[2:38:44] Speaker 3: But what's going on is the triggers are happening and
[2:38:47] Speaker 3: y'all trying to tell me who I am and what
[2:38:49] Speaker 3: I went through. And I'm trying to tell y'all y'all wrong.
[2:38:52] Speaker 3: Y'all trying to tell me y'all right about my shit.
[2:38:56] Speaker 1: But the problem is who's right?
[2:39:00] Speaker 4: The person you telling who you are that you created
[2:39:03] Speaker 4: because of all of this or the people who was
[2:39:06] Speaker 4: there to say, hey, no, come on, dog.
[2:39:07] Speaker 1: That's come on.
[2:39:08] Speaker 4: Stop blaming him. That wasn't his fault. You just didn't
[2:39:10] Speaker 4: go to the gym, dog.
[2:39:12] Speaker 1: You didn't you didn't go to the gym. You went
[2:39:13] Speaker 1: to the bar. Right.
[2:39:16] Speaker 4: Hey, if you couldn't handle the pressure, trust me, back
[2:39:19] Speaker 4: then there was no there was no guidance.
[2:39:21] Speaker 1: We didn't fucking know what to do.
[2:39:23] Speaker 4: So if you having a problem and you think drinking
[2:39:26] Speaker 4: is the thing to do.
[2:39:27] Speaker 1: OK, cool. But that was you. You did that. Just say, hey, man, look.
[2:39:33] Speaker 3: Circumstances are different when you got the pressure of being
[2:39:36] Speaker 3: the number one pick and the motherfucker who drafted you
[2:39:39] Speaker 3: do not fuck with you, do not want you, and
[2:39:41] Speaker 3: they get rid of you until you go to another
[2:39:43] Speaker 3: motherfucker who's like, man, why y'all give me this motherfucker?
[2:39:46] Speaker 3: So think about what's going on. It's triggering.
[2:39:49] Speaker 1: It's triggering.
[2:39:51] Speaker 4: Think about what you have to go through.
[2:39:53] Speaker 3: And then you got other motherfuckers re-stabbing you.
[2:39:58] Speaker 1: What's up? You remember this? You remember that?
[2:40:01] Speaker 6: But we live in this age where you can make
[2:40:03] Speaker 6: your own narrative. We live in a social media age.
[2:40:06] Speaker 1: So what you're talking about is like, no, you got
[2:40:08] Speaker 1: to own your shit. No, I'm going to make whoever
[2:40:10] Speaker 1: I want to be. And that's the problem. Making whoever
[2:40:12] Speaker 1: you want to be, that's not survival. And on that note,
[2:40:17] Speaker 1: I feel like that's a good place to stop for
[2:40:19] Speaker 1: us today. Like, you grown. That crazy mother. Listen, you're crazy. Listen,
[2:40:25] Speaker 1: you're crazy still, right?
[2:40:27] Speaker 2: Right?
[2:40:27] Speaker 4: You crazy still. There's nothing crazy about the truth, man. No, no, no.
[2:40:31] Speaker 4: But when you first came in here, everybody in the
[2:40:34] Speaker 4: chat can say, when you first came in here versus
[2:40:36] Speaker 4: who you are now, you grown.
[2:40:39] Speaker 1: Mm-hmm.
[2:40:39] Speaker 4: We all are different than when we first started the podcast.
[2:40:44] Speaker 1: I told you, when he first walked in.
[2:40:45] Speaker 4: When he first walked in, that energy, that is different.
[2:40:49] Speaker 4: It's different.
[2:40:53] Speaker 6: I don't think y'all understand. I remember him. I remember
[2:40:56] Speaker 6: looking up to this motherfucker. The energy he shows on
[2:40:59] Speaker 6: this show, that was the energy.
[2:41:00] Speaker 1: That motherfucker walked around with. That was him.
[2:41:05] Speaker 4: The nigga happy, like you're.
[2:41:09] Speaker 1: Glowing, nigga. It's because I ain't got to go through shit.
[2:41:12] Speaker 3: Because you don't got shit. You don't got nothing on you. No,
[2:41:15] Speaker 3: I had a pathway I had to mend. I had
[2:41:18] Speaker 3: to go through the trenches.
[2:41:19] Speaker 1: Thank you.
[2:41:20] Speaker 3: I had things in the way to even sit here.
[2:41:22] Speaker 1: Yes. Right?
[2:41:23] Speaker 3: But I had accountability as well.
[2:41:25] Speaker 8: Yes, sir.
[2:41:25] Speaker 3: Let me clean up my take. Let me clean up
[2:41:27] Speaker 3: your mess. Let me clean up, you know, what I
[2:41:29] Speaker 3: say about people. I'm going to make it a lot harsher.
[2:41:33] Speaker 4: I love it. I love it. And not give a
[2:41:35] Speaker 4: fuck a lot more.
[2:41:36] Speaker 1: I love it.
[2:41:36] Speaker 4: I love it.
[2:41:37] Speaker 5: Keep talking.
[2:41:38] Speaker 1: Let's go. Flush the toilet. Sometimes we just got to...
[2:41:41] Speaker 1: And we will continue to do that here on Gil's Arena.
[2:41:44] Speaker 4: I owe $ 400, Scott, damn it.
[2:41:46] Speaker 1: Five.
[2:41:46] Speaker 3: Five.
[2:41:47] Speaker 1: Damn. Gil, get the bread off. No, you're going to
[2:41:50] Speaker 1: get the bread right now. All right, we're going to go.
[2:41:52] Speaker 3: Brad got like 10, though.
[2:41:53] Speaker 1: No, I got three. We'll add you up for that.
[2:41:56] Speaker 4: All right, M.
[2:41:57] Speaker 1: Rice Legacy. M. Rice Legacy. M. Rice Legacy, you get
[2:42:00] Speaker 1: that 500.
[2:42:00] Speaker 2: I owe you 500. Greg, we appreciate you pulling up.
[2:42:03] Speaker 2: You're going to be here more. We're going to have
[2:42:04] Speaker 2: a lot more to discuss throughout the week. Obviously, Sean, Mr. B,
[2:42:07] Speaker 2: appreciate you. Well, Gil, appreciate you. Everybody in the chat,
[2:42:09] Speaker 2: we appreciate y'all. This has been another episode of Gil's
[2:42:11] Speaker 2: Arena presented by Underdog. We will see y'all tomorrow.

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