# The Lakers' Rough Road Trip CONCERNS The Gil's Arena Crew

An episode of [Gil's Arena](https://invisiblenetwork.ai/podcast/1689097415), 6 Nov 2024, 2 h 47 min.

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Ja Morant's Highlight Reel ELECTRIFIES Gil's Arena as Gilbert Arenas & The Gil's Arena Crew react to Ja's two 360 layups against the Brooklyn Nets where the Memphis Grizzlies superstar showed everyone what we were missing last season during his suspension and proved he's the most electrifying player in the NBA. They also break down Ja's involvement in the development of Grizzlies rookie Zach Edey and discuss how playing with a dynamic guard can fast track Edey to rookie of the year status. Next, a somber Gil's Arena Crew breaks down the Los Angeles Lakers recent losing skid where LeBron James & The Lake Show have lost 3 of 4 on the road including an embarrassing loss to the Detroit Pistons and discuss how Anthony Davis' MVP level play has been hampered by a nagging foot injury, sparking a debate of if the Lakers are asking too much of their superstar center. Finally, Gil's Arena reacts to the news that San Antonio Spurs head coach Gregg Popovich will be sidelined indefinitely due to health issues and analyze the college debut of likely #1 overall pick Cooper Flagg debating if he's good enough to warrant an NBA franchise going full tank to get him. Please leave us a like and subscribe!!! Gil's Arena Crew - Gilbert Arenas, Josiah Johnson, Kenyon Martin, Lexie Brown & Rashad McCants Gil's Arena Merch is Available NOW at http://gilsarenamerch.com/ Use code GIL10 for 10% off your SeatGeek order https://seatgeek.onelink.me/RrnK/GIL10 Sign up for Underdog Fantasy HERE with promo code GIL and get up to $1000 in Bonus Cash and A FREE Pick: https://play.underdogfantasy.com/p-gil's-arena SUBSCRIBE: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCAvjYgmwadC682OoC4Cc6TQ Join the Underdog discord for access to exclusive giveaways and promos! https://discord.gg/underdog Intro 0:00:00 Show Start 0:02:01 Ja Morant's 360 Layups WOWS Gil's Arena 0:09:13 Zach Edey's AGE Blows Up The Arena 0:17:24 The Lakers Are Asking Too Much Of Anthony Davis 0:47:29 Lakers Issues With Bench Depth 1:02:29 Draymond Calls Out OKC's Bromance 1:13:19 Celtics Challenged To A World Championship Match 1:43:15 Cooper Flagg Is Already Showing He's HIM 1:59:49 Joe Few Gets POSTERIZED 2:14:35 Rudy Gobert Ducks Russell Westbrook's Smoke 2:18:43 MostlyFans 2:32:10 Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

## Transcript

[0:02] Speaker 1: That's four.
[0:03] Speaker 2: I know that. Welcome back to Gil's Arena presented by Underdog. Yeah, man.
[0:12] Speaker 3: I wish y'all could listen in on the pre-show chats, but...
[0:15] Speaker 3: That's bad, man. It wouldn't be good news for some
[0:17] Speaker 3: of us on this couch, but nah. Let's talk about
[0:20] Speaker 3: the education system. Yeah, but it worked out for me.
[0:25] Speaker 3: Not going to the other school. Very successful. Absolutely. Everybody
[0:30] Speaker 3: don't need... That's wild. I like it when they ask you.
[0:35] Speaker 3: You're not there yet. You're not there yet. You're not
[0:37] Speaker 3: there yet.
[0:38] Speaker 2: When they ask you, hey, can you help with my homework?
[0:41] Speaker 2: Go watch out.
[0:43] Speaker 1: Watch out.
[0:44] Speaker 4: Fuck out my face.
[0:45] Speaker 5: My younger siblings ask me, oh, why is it I
[0:49] Speaker 5: come in like that?
[0:50] Speaker 2: Uh-oh. Uh-oh. Because you back. You running things. You got
[0:55] Speaker 2: the wire on. You got the wire on. So, nah,
[0:58] Speaker 2: my kids in elementary school homework. Man, listen. I told
[1:03] Speaker 2: them straight up, hey, listen, I can help you with the, hey,
[1:06] Speaker 2: you bring home some reading, some social studies, some history.
[1:11] Speaker 2: I'm your guy. Math, hey, it's all gonna be wrong. Bro,
[1:16] Speaker 2: the way they do math now, it's so janky with
[1:18] Speaker 2: like the... It's so weird. It's called Singapore math. The
[1:21] Speaker 2: value disk and all. It's like, bro, just add it up.
[1:24] Speaker 5: It's so crazy.
[1:25] Speaker 2: So therefore, to get the same answer, listen, I know
[1:28] Speaker 2: what this answer is.
[1:29] Speaker 1: Mm-hmm.
[1:30] Speaker 2: But that's the wrong way to do the math.
[1:32] Speaker 5: They're like splitting the numbers apart.
[1:34] Speaker 1: Yeah. The hundreds and the tens and the ones.
[1:36] Speaker 2: Show them how you get the answer. Yeah, no, no, no, no.
[1:38] Speaker 2: Don't worry about that. Tell me how you got it.
[1:40] Speaker 4: I know what nine times nine is, man. Show your work.
[1:44] Speaker 4: I went to school.
[1:45] Speaker 2: I did mine.
[1:45] Speaker 4: I'm not going to do yours.
[1:46] Speaker 2: I tell you straight up. I would tell my daughter
[1:48] Speaker 2: straight up. Feel great. Tell her straight up. I'm not
[1:52] Speaker 2: going to do your homework. Man, you got.
[1:53] Speaker 5: Do they teach cursive still?
[1:55] Speaker 2: No. You got students.
[1:55] Speaker 4: Not particularly.
[1:56] Speaker 2: You got friends.
[1:57] Speaker 5: Well, I mean, that was pointless.
[1:59] Speaker 1: No. I feel like.
[2:00] Speaker 4: No.
[2:00] Speaker 5: There's a lot of pointless things in high school.
[2:03] Speaker 2: But, hey, nonetheless, do what you do. Class now, dog,
[2:06] Speaker 2: it's great.
[2:06] Speaker 1: I was going to say.
[2:08] Speaker 4: What you asking me for?
[2:09] Speaker 2: You know how to get all the videos on YouTube.
[2:14] Speaker 2: She got a phone, a computer, and an iPad. She
[2:18] Speaker 2: asked me something. I said, you got three devices on there.
[2:20] Speaker 2: Use one of them. They got the answer right there.
[2:23] Speaker 4: Look it up.
[2:24] Speaker 1: And, hey.
[2:26] Speaker 2: I read well, some of the words they asked me to, listen,
[2:30] Speaker 2: I'm not even gonna attempt to spell it. I'm listening
[2:33] Speaker 2: to her do her homework. Some of the words that's
[2:36] Speaker 2: on her vocabulary test, I was like, she gotta learn
[2:40] Speaker 2: how to spell that? And fifth, man. I still need
[2:46] Speaker 2: to look it up on the phone. I ain't spelled
[2:49] Speaker 2: this in.
[2:49] Speaker 1: A long time. That's how you spell broom?
[2:52] Speaker 4: Right?
[2:53] Speaker 2: Just some simple as broom like that. When's the last
[2:56] Speaker 2: time you just spelled broom? You got to make sure
[2:59] Speaker 2: this shit right.
[3:00] Speaker 4: It's going to be all well and dandy if you
[3:02] Speaker 4: don't get invited because you can't spell. Hey, listen, dad, listen, dad, dad, dad.
[3:08] Speaker 2: Stay back.
[3:10] Speaker 1: If.
[3:10] Speaker 2: I'm on a bus.
[3:11] Speaker 4: We're spelling big words.
[3:12] Speaker 2: I'm on a bus going to the game, and I'm like,
[3:15] Speaker 2: you know, like, if you do, I'm like, if.
[3:20] Speaker 1: If?
[3:20] Speaker 6: E-F.
[3:22] Speaker 4: I can't remember how to spell if.
[3:24] Speaker 5: Yo, you got to get that.
[3:26] Speaker 6: It took me about 10 minutes, bro, and I was
[3:28] Speaker 6: just saying.
[3:29] Speaker 2: If.
[3:30] Speaker 6: Hey, y'all, I'm just having one of those days. How
[3:32] Speaker 6: you spell if? I went to I-F-F.
[3:36] Speaker 2: I-E-F-F. No, I was tripping. It was like I-F, and I.
[3:41] Speaker 4: Put it in, I-F. Everything don't need to be swear words.
[3:47] Speaker 1: Nah, dawg.
[3:48] Speaker 4: Nah, I would have known if it was this, dawg.
[3:50] Speaker 4: I would have known if it was this.
[3:52] Speaker 2: It can't be this. It can't be this simple. And
[3:55] Speaker 2: the worst feature now is this motherfucking microphone on this
[3:58] Speaker 2: goddamn phone. And you ain't got to type nothing in.
[4:02] Speaker 2: That's the worst feature ever invented. That's the best. That's
[4:05] Speaker 2: the worst.
[4:05] Speaker 5: And now it writes it out for you.
[4:07] Speaker 2: Write it. Yeah, that's the problem. You don't even have to.
[4:09] Speaker 1: Think about it.
[4:09] Speaker 5: You don't always have to listen all the time.
[4:11] Speaker 2: Right, you just look at the business and be like, oh, damn, that's... Wow.
[4:14] Speaker 2: When people autocorrect me, I'm.
[4:16] Speaker 4: Like, that was auto.
[4:17] Speaker 1: That was auto.
[4:18] Speaker 2: Talking about there, there, and there.
[4:20] Speaker 4: The computer did that.
[4:21] Speaker 2: Oh, my God.
[4:22] Speaker 4: Talk to Siri.
[4:23] Speaker 1: Talk to Siri.
[4:24] Speaker 4: Talk to Siri.
[4:24] Speaker 5: There, there, and there. Whooping people's ass.
[4:27] Speaker 2: What?
[4:28] Speaker 5: Oh, my God.
[4:29] Speaker 7: But on a more positive note, this is Gil Serena
[4:31] Speaker 7: presented by Underdog. As always, we got the legend Gilbert
[4:34] Speaker 7: Arenas here with us. We got the honorable Cemetery Larry,
[4:41] Speaker 7: Rashad McCants.
[4:43] Speaker 1: Whooping.
[4:46] Speaker 5: Whooping their ass.
[4:47] Speaker 4: Absolutely.
[4:47] Speaker 3: And on this side of the couch, we got Kenyon
[4:49] Speaker 3: Martin back.
[4:49] Speaker 4: Here with us.
[4:50] Speaker 2: What's that?
[4:53] Speaker 3: And WNBA World Champion of the World, Craig. Lexi Brown
[4:58] Speaker 3: back in the arena. WNBA World Champion.
[5:02] Speaker 4: Of the World.
[5:02] Speaker 2: Everybody may not agree with that, that world champion. Oh,
[5:05] Speaker 2: my gosh. Yeah, I stick with kindergarten, first grade, home run.
[5:08] Speaker 4: There you go.
[5:10] Speaker 5: Wait, y'all saw the tweet from the Greek coach?
[5:12] Speaker 2: We were discussing about your Boston Celtics. Oh, okay. That
[5:17] Speaker 2: was a precursor, a little foreshadowing, if you will. Our
[5:20] Speaker 2: Boston Celtics. Okay, wait.
[5:22] Speaker 5: What?
[5:23] Speaker 4: Are you back?
[5:24] Speaker 2: No, no, no. Oh, yeah. Oh, yes.
[5:27] Speaker 4: I was the reason why you were having this conversation.
[5:30] Speaker 2: You didn't elevate. I'm the whole reason. No. You didn't
[5:33] Speaker 2: elevate Jason Brown in the Celtics.
[5:34] Speaker 4: Thank you.
[5:35] Speaker 2: No. Thank you.
[5:35] Speaker 1: To a World Championship. Yeah, you've been there the whole time.
[5:38] Speaker 2: Yeah, he's like.
[5:39] Speaker 4: Y'all ain't won until I got there, so don't even.
[5:40] Speaker 2: He was a free agent. He signed, but, you know,
[5:43] Speaker 2: when it's ring night, he get to come back.
[5:44] Speaker 4: And get his.
[5:44] Speaker 2: Mm-hmm.
[5:45] Speaker 4: Tribute video.
[5:46] Speaker 2: As soon as we play, y'all.
[5:47] Speaker 1: Selfie's got to give you a tribute video.
[5:51] Speaker 3: But for all the fans out there, we still have
[5:52] Speaker 3: two viewing options for you, our traditional version and a
[5:55] Speaker 3: mobile vertical version. Pick whichever one you want to watch.
[5:57] Speaker 3: Just make sure you support your favorite show. Here's what's
[6:00] Speaker 3: cracking in the arena today. AD has been playing at
[6:03] Speaker 3: an MVP level, but the Lakers have lost three of
[6:05] Speaker 3: their last four games, and Davis re-aggravated a nagging foot injury.
[6:09] Speaker 3: Are the purple and gold asking AD to do too much?
[6:14] Speaker 2: Forget to work, Anthony. Marshawn Davis.
[6:18] Speaker 4: John Morant delivered two of the most viewed highlights in
[6:20] Speaker 4: the NBA this season, but is 12 the most electrifying
[6:24] Speaker 4: player in the league right now? And Cooper Flagg was
[6:27] Speaker 4: impressive in his college debut, but is he worth tanking for?
[6:31] Speaker 2: Utah Jazz, you are on the clock. That's what they
[6:34] Speaker 2: call that, fam.
[6:38] Speaker 1: Get tough. Get tough.
[6:40] Speaker 3: But before we get into all that, as always, this
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[7:12] Speaker 3: So we're going to start with one of our favorite
[7:16] Speaker 3: players here in the arena. So John Morant had a
[7:18] Speaker 3: couple of highlights Monday that reminded everyone exactly what we
[7:23] Speaker 3: were missing today.
[7:24] Speaker 2: Last season. So we got him here.
[7:27] Speaker 3: Ja executed not one, but two fake dunk 360 reverse
[7:30] Speaker 3: layups against the Nets Monday, finishing the game with 25
[7:34] Speaker 3: points in the loss at Brooklyn.
[7:35] Speaker 2: Yes, they did lose. It does not matter.
[7:38] Speaker 3: The video still looked good because that's not the story here.
[7:41] Speaker 3: So according to NBA PR, Ja Morant's two acrobatic layups
[7:44] Speaker 3: from the Grizzlies-Nets game have generated 161 million video views
[7:49] Speaker 3: and counting across NBA social media.
[7:52] Speaker 4: Each play stands out as.
[7:53] Speaker 3: The most viewed video on NBA platforms this season.
[7:58] Speaker 2: Very early in the season, but Ja doing what he's doing.
[8:01] Speaker 3: So I got to ask the couch, is Ja the
[8:04] Speaker 3: most electrifying player in the league right now? Keyword, electrifying
[8:09] Speaker 3: in that statement.
[8:10] Speaker 4: I think by far at this point. No question? And
[8:14] Speaker 4: the reason why I say that is because his absence
[8:18] Speaker 4: allowed Ant-Man to step in, but I think his return
[8:21] Speaker 4: allowed us to.
[8:22] Speaker 1: See how.
[8:25] Speaker 4: How big there's still a gap. That's still, wow. Like,
[8:29] Speaker 4: what was that type shit?
[8:30] Speaker 6: Yeah.
[8:32] Speaker 2: So let's move to this side. Lexi, you agree with
[8:34] Speaker 2: what Scott said?
[8:35] Speaker 5: I mean, I think he's definitely the most exciting player
[8:38] Speaker 5: in the league. And his personality matches it. And I
[8:42] Speaker 5: think that's what people love about him. It's like his
[8:43] Speaker 5: game and his energy and his aura is all just
[8:46] Speaker 5: off the charts. So, I mean, those are crazy. Yeah, aura.
[8:50] Speaker 5: That's what the kids say.
[8:53] Speaker 2: Can you watch a lot of basketball?
[8:55] Speaker 3: Obviously an expert on the subject, would you consider Ja
[8:57] Speaker 3: to be the most electrifying player in the league right now?
[9:01] Speaker 2: Anybody else close?
[9:02] Speaker 4: Jalen Green?
[9:03] Speaker 5: Yeah.
[9:04] Speaker 2: Yeah, Jalen Green is three.
[9:06] Speaker 1: Pearl?
[9:07] Speaker 2: Jalen Green is definitely that, but....
[9:12] Speaker 6: Yeah, that's what Ja do. Those two in one game, yeah.
[9:19] Speaker 2: Like, you do it once, you're not thinking he gonna
[9:21] Speaker 2: think to do it again in the same game.
[9:24] Speaker 1: Um.
[9:25] Speaker 2: Yeah, no, he is definitely top three.
[9:27] Speaker 4: Was that Duncan's scene, that game too?
[9:29] Speaker 1: No.
[9:30] Speaker 2: So I took a brownie the other night. Oh, I
[9:34] Speaker 2: thought the pullback was in there too.
[9:36] Speaker 3: Took a magic brownie the other night, sent that in
[9:39] Speaker 3: the group chat. That was from last season. But, you know,
[9:43] Speaker 3: had to apologize.
[9:44] Speaker 2: I think it's Jai, Jalen, Anthony Edwards. They are in. Yeah,
[9:51] Speaker 2: they're the top top. Top three. Top one in that category, electrifying.
[9:56] Speaker 4: Yeah.
[9:57] Speaker 2: Just watch out at any given moment. It could be
[10:02] Speaker 2: that type of layup. It could be a dunk. It
[10:04] Speaker 2: could be, yeah, they just played a game with grace.
[10:11] Speaker 3: So let's take it back down memory lane. Is there
[10:13] Speaker 3: anyone that you faced who you would compare to Jai athletically?
[10:18] Speaker 1: Electrifying, or just athletic?
[10:19] Speaker 2: From that athletic disability skill. That aura?
[10:22] Speaker 6: Yeah. Probably more Steve Francis. Probably when it came to
[10:32] Speaker 6: just putting on a show and you're glued to the
[10:35] Speaker 6: TV on everything he's trying to do, I would.
[10:38] Speaker 1: Say Steve Francis in my era.
[10:41] Speaker 2: Shaw, how about yourself? Probably Baron Davis. BD, Boom Dizzle.
[10:52] Speaker 4: You know what's so funny with BD?
[10:57] Speaker 6: It was, nobody really gets to see what he was
[11:00] Speaker 6: because he got injured so early in his career, but-
[11:04] Speaker 6: Golden State BD? Charlotte BD I'm just saying because of
[11:09] Speaker 6: the injury that's was it because of the injury it
[11:11] Speaker 6: kind of stopped him from just being a wild jumper Yeah,
[11:15] Speaker 6: you know just one of those wild cards, you know Yeah,
[11:19] Speaker 6: all of it. It was crazy for everybody, but.
[11:21] Speaker 2: He had all the acrobatic moves and up.
[11:23] Speaker 4: And yeah Yeah, being electrifying like at any moment BD
[11:28] Speaker 4: in my ear like trying to think of anybody else
[11:30] Speaker 4: Because that was my second year. I didn't get to
[11:32] Speaker 4: play with Steve like that when he was in high school.
[11:35] Speaker 3: For those who got to see the NBA BD, he
[11:37] Speaker 3: came into the league after tearing his ACL at UCLA,
[11:39] Speaker 3: but I'm going to take it even back to that.
[11:41] Speaker 3: I was in junior high at the same high school
[11:42] Speaker 3: as him at Crossroads here in L.A., And the stuff
[11:44] Speaker 3: he used to do on our little outdoor playground, he
[11:46] Speaker 3: was messing around one day doing crazy dunks, ended up
[11:49] Speaker 3: tweaking his knee even back then. So you were looking
[11:51] Speaker 3: at a version of B.D. in the league that wasn't.
[11:53] Speaker 2: I mean, they used to have lob plays for him
[11:55] Speaker 2: in high school where he'd just come down the lane
[11:58] Speaker 2: on the out-of-bounds and just cock back and just dunk
[12:00] Speaker 2: all over dudes' lives.
[12:01] Speaker 3: But definitely a great choice. But let's move it to
[12:04] Speaker 3: this side, Kenya. Who would you compare to John athletically
[12:08] Speaker 3: from your era?
[12:10] Speaker 2: Vince is an easy choice, but I'm going to go.
[12:13] Speaker 2: I'm going to put a big in this, and I'm
[12:16] Speaker 2: going to look out for the guys that play down low.
[12:19] Speaker 2: I'm going to go Strohmeyer or Swift.
[12:21] Speaker 1: Stroh, Stroh, Stroh.
[12:22] Speaker 6: All right.
[12:26] Speaker 2: Strohmeyer, yeah.
[12:28] Speaker 1: Yeah.
[12:29] Speaker 2: Same draft class. He was the second pick in our draft. Yeah,
[12:34] Speaker 2: so I'm going to put a big. I wanted to
[12:36] Speaker 2: go Amari, but my Stroh shit just looked different.
[12:39] Speaker 1: Nasty.
[12:40] Speaker 4: Mm-hmm.
[12:41] Speaker 2: You mentioned Vince. Obviously, he just got his jersey retired
[12:43] Speaker 2: by the Raptors recently, but... My dad was there.
[12:47] Speaker 4: He was up there?
[12:47] Speaker 6: Yeah.
[12:48] Speaker 1: Okay.
[12:48] Speaker 5: They had a little reunion.
[12:50] Speaker 4: It was turnt up?
[12:50] Speaker 5: It was adorbs.
[12:52] Speaker 2: Did Drake run up on him?
[12:53] Speaker 5: No, but he sent me a video of Drake.
[12:56] Speaker 1: Okay.
[12:57] Speaker 5: With Vince's kids. I was like, go say hi.
[13:00] Speaker 3: Let's switch it to the W side. Just in terms of...
[13:04] Speaker 3: Without anything from this side of the couch, please. Just
[13:07] Speaker 3: let her answer, but.
[13:09] Speaker 5: I mean, obviously nobody matches that athleticism, but I guess
[13:13] Speaker 5: from an aura standpoint, like when it comes to their game,
[13:17] Speaker 5: growing up, probably Simone Augustus, I would say. And then
[13:22] Speaker 5: now I would say Arike.
[13:24] Speaker 2: Yeah, I figured that's who you were going to say.
[13:26] Speaker 1: Yeah.
[13:27] Speaker 4: She'd be out there cooking.
[13:27] Speaker 5: She'd pull up and it's a show.
[13:30] Speaker 2: Always take higher on the pickup. I was going to
[13:31] Speaker 2: say Cappy Poindexter, but.
[13:33] Speaker 5: Oh, Cappy's a good one. Cappy's a good one.
[13:37] Speaker 1: Yeah.
[13:37] Speaker 5: Yeah, Cappy's a good one. But Simone was a little
[13:40] Speaker 5: overshadowed by Maya a little bit.
[13:42] Speaker 4: Okay.
[13:42] Speaker 5: But, I mean, if you watch Simone's highlights from college
[13:46] Speaker 5: and when she was with the.
[13:47] Speaker 2: Lynx, like.
[13:47] Speaker 6: Like, when you're talking about, like, somebody who can move
[13:51] Speaker 6: like Ja that has that, that, that, that, uh, South
[13:54] Speaker 6: Carolina Foo Riley.
[13:56] Speaker 2: Oh, yeah.
[13:56] Speaker 4: Yeah. Yeah.
[13:58] Speaker 6: When you're talking about just coming and just moving, just
[14:01] Speaker 6: knowing how to use her limbs.
[14:02] Speaker 2: You ever watch Barbara Turner?
[14:04] Speaker 1: Who?
[14:04] Speaker 2: Barbara Turner.
[14:05] Speaker 5: Mm-mm.
[14:06] Speaker 2: From the cooking show? That just sounds like a cooking
[14:10] Speaker 2: show name, right? Like Martha Stewart. Barbara Turner. From the
[14:14] Speaker 2: cooking show, because it sounds like a cooking show name.
[14:18] Speaker 2: Let's move on.
[14:21] Speaker 1: I'm just playing. That happens.
[14:24] Speaker 3: We gave Derrick Rose his flowers recently, but the chat
[14:28] Speaker 3: saying D.
[14:29] Speaker 2: Rose, I think pre-Janky Knee D. Rose was also. He
[14:32] Speaker 2: wasn't my era. I didn't get to see him. No, no,
[14:33] Speaker 2: but just a sight to behold.
[14:35] Speaker 6: He wasn't my era either, but, you know, him, John Wall,
[14:37] Speaker 6: they came in with a whole different type of athleticism.
[14:41] Speaker 2: Oh, yeah, John Wall.
[14:42] Speaker 4: John Wall's speed, man, was.
[14:44] Speaker 2: Yeah, I wouldn't. Never mind.
[14:45] Speaker 1: I'm going to shut up.
[14:47] Speaker 4: All right.
[14:47] Speaker 2: Nothing. Okay. No, I'm not nothing.
[14:51] Speaker 3: We headed in the right direction on this first Wednesday.
[14:53] Speaker 4: We headed in the right direction here.
[14:54] Speaker 5: Look at y'all thinking before y'all speak.
[14:57] Speaker 2: Yeah, I have, yeah, because it was, it had nothing
[15:00] Speaker 2: to do with what we're talking about. But that's what
[15:03] Speaker 2: we do on this show. It did, it did, but
[15:06] Speaker 2: it was inappropriate, so.
[15:09] Speaker 4: Now you have us curious, but.
[15:10] Speaker 2: Right.
[15:11] Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, it's good.
[15:12] Speaker 2: Curiosity killed the cat. So.
[15:16] Speaker 3: We asked to chat his job, the NBA's most electrifying player. 78%
[15:19] Speaker 3: said yes. Good job, Chad. Y'all are locked in today. Well,
[15:23] Speaker 3: let's keep it Grizzlies related.
[15:25] Speaker 2: So before this even started, Ja predicted Grizzlies' ninth overall pick,
[15:29] Speaker 2: Zach Eadie, would win Rookie of the Year. Easily. He did?
[15:34] Speaker 2: Ja said easily. I think... He was trying to. It's
[15:38] Speaker 2: my pick. Okay. I picked Zach Eadie.
[15:41] Speaker 4: It was our pick.
[15:42] Speaker 2: Oh, you picked Zach Eadie too?
[15:43] Speaker 4: Absolutely.
[15:43] Speaker 2: Oh, I didn't know you did. Absolutely. I picked Zach Eadie.
[15:47] Speaker 1: None of the.
[15:48] Speaker 5: Are any of the rookies even.
[15:49] Speaker 2: It's a little rough. As expected.
[15:52] Speaker 5: Because they're babies.
[15:53] Speaker 1: Well, I mean.
[15:54] Speaker 2: Not him.
[15:55] Speaker 1: Right.
[15:55] Speaker 5: Grown-ass man.
[15:57] Speaker 1: Grown-ass man.
[15:57] Speaker 6: Two-time player of the year. Trust me. They coming in
[16:00] Speaker 6: ready to play at 22? Ain't nothing like it, Jack.
[16:03] Speaker 4: I mean, that boy ain't... We in Arizona? Yeah, up close.
[16:08] Speaker 3: I mean, in the suite, but we had a good
[16:09] Speaker 3: vantage point.
[16:10] Speaker 2: VIP, you know. VIP, just.
[16:12] Speaker 5: You think they're ever going to, like.
[16:13] Speaker 1: Once he start.
[16:14] Speaker 2: Making threes, once he adjust the shooting, because he make
[16:16] Speaker 2: free throws.
[16:17] Speaker 4: You got to stop him from getting position. He going
[16:19] Speaker 4: to be all right. He know how to get position.
[16:20] Speaker 5: You think teams are going to start drafting seniors more ever?
[16:24] Speaker 2: That can play.
[16:24] Speaker 4: It depends if they develop like he has.
[16:27] Speaker 5: Yeah.
[16:28] Speaker 2: Like, don't connect. They develop.
[16:30] Speaker 4: He's not going for it.
[16:31] Speaker 5: He don't ever go for it.
[16:32] Speaker 3: You always make the point that teams want to draft
[16:34] Speaker 3: younger players, right, so they have more longevity, more runway.
[16:38] Speaker 1: But what we're seeing with the new CBA.
[16:40] Speaker 3: in the need for a player like Dalton Canuck on
[16:42] Speaker 3: the Lakers, guys, that teams need to come in.
[16:44] Speaker 1: Can't come in and play right away. Play right away.
[16:47] Speaker 5: Right, they're getting money. They're making money now.
[16:49] Speaker 2: Ain't no need for a lot. Yo, I'm just saying.
[16:51] Speaker 4: Play right away. As soon as you get here, we
[16:53] Speaker 4: can trust you.
[16:54] Speaker 3: Do you anticipate a shift at all, Gil, or if
[16:56] Speaker 3: you're a GM, you still give me just a young guy.
[16:59] Speaker 4: I can build around?
[16:59] Speaker 5: I mean, the European kids, I think they have a
[17:02] Speaker 5: bigger learning curve than the American kids.
[17:04] Speaker 2: He's averaging 11, y'all. Absolutely. Okay. At 22, about to
[17:07] Speaker 2: turn 23 years old. Okay.
[17:08] Speaker 1: Ugh.
[17:09] Speaker 2: Since first year in the NBA. What was his last name?
[17:11] Speaker 2: He ain't shooting threes yet.
[17:11] Speaker 5: We're talking about rookies.
[17:12] Speaker 2: What I'm saying is, he ain't shooting threes yet.
[17:14] Speaker 5: We're not talking about other 22-year-olds in the league. We're
[17:17] Speaker 5: talking about rookie.
[17:19] Speaker 2: As a rookie, he's averaging 11.
[17:22] Speaker 4: Okay.
[17:22] Speaker 2: And where does that rank amongst rookies, Gil?
[17:25] Speaker 6: Number one, a point in front of a 19-year-old.
[17:29] Speaker 2: Oh, my God.
[17:30] Speaker 1: Goalposts moving ass!
[17:33] Speaker 6: What I'm saying is he's averaging one more point than
[17:36] Speaker 6: a rookie on the Wizards.
[17:37] Speaker 4: And that's because he's two.
[17:38] Speaker 6: Years older than them. And he's three years older, averaging
[17:41] Speaker 6: one more point.
[17:42] Speaker 2: What does that have to do with his career?
[17:44] Speaker 1: So if he averages three more points, that would be okay?
[17:49] Speaker 4: When you're... So.
[17:51] Speaker 2: So if he was at 40... If he averaged three
[17:53] Speaker 2: more points, would it be okay if he averaged 15?
[17:55] Speaker 2: Did they get drafted, that?
[17:57] Speaker 4: He has to average 20?
[17:58] Speaker 2: Okay, all right. Just.
[18:00] Speaker 1: Okay, so you got the.
[18:05] Speaker 2: You got the Carlton kid, right? 19 years old, averaging
[18:08] Speaker 2: 10 and 4.
[18:09] Speaker 1: Who is Carlton? 10, 4, and 4.
[18:11] Speaker 5: That's the Wizards?
[18:12] Speaker 4: 10, 4, and 4.
[18:12] Speaker 1: He's 19.
[18:13] Speaker 6: When he's 22... What do you think his numbers is
[18:18] Speaker 6: going to be?
[18:19] Speaker 2: We don't know. Who he play for? Who he play for?
[18:22] Speaker 4: Carrington is averaging 10, 4, and 4 at 20 bucks.
[18:25] Speaker 1: What is he going to be? Basically 10, 4, and 5.
[18:28] Speaker 6: How many minutes is he playing, and what position does
[18:31] Speaker 6: he play?
[18:32] Speaker 2: He's a guard. So he has the ball in his hands.
[18:37] Speaker 1: So therefore, he gets to.
[18:38] Speaker 6: Shoot the ball at will, and he's only averaging 10 points.
[18:41] Speaker 2: With the Wizards. He's a rookie. With pool on the
[18:45] Speaker 2: team and Kuzma. Who has to rely on somebody to
[18:49] Speaker 2: pass him the ball.
[18:50] Speaker 6: So when he's 22. Has to rely on somebody to
[18:52] Speaker 6: pass him the ball. When he's 22, what do you
[18:55] Speaker 6: think he's going to be?
[18:56] Speaker 2: 10-4-4.
[18:57] Speaker 6: You think he's going to be averaging 11? At 22
[19:00] Speaker 6: years old. Three years from now, do you think.
[19:05] Speaker 2: His projection is going to be 11 points?
[19:08] Speaker 1: 12.
[19:08] Speaker 5: Joe, make a note of this.
[19:10] Speaker 4: We have to get drafted.
[19:12] Speaker 1: We have a chat that love bringing up OSHA. Who's
[19:14] Speaker 1: the draft pick?
[19:15] Speaker 6: So in three years when Zach Eady.
[19:17] Speaker 2: Is 25, we plan on him averaging 20.
[19:19] Speaker 4: Yeah, 20 and 12.
[19:19] Speaker 2: At 25.
[19:19] Speaker 1: Okay, that's fine.
[19:20] Speaker 4: 20 and 12.
[19:25] Speaker 2: Okay, that's six years for this kid. Six years later.
[19:29] Speaker 4: He's not going to be in the league. He's not
[19:31] Speaker 4: going to be in the league in two years. Bub
[19:33] Speaker 4: was the 14-year-old.
[19:35] Speaker 2: That's who's projected to probably win it. That's who he's
[19:40] Speaker 2: going to be competing with. The kid from the Wizards.
[19:42] Speaker 2: Not the number two pick.
[19:44] Speaker 1: This kid.
[19:45] Speaker 2: Okay. That's the kid they're going to be. Okay, well, Zach,
[19:48] Speaker 2: he's going to get the opportunity. So, Let's talk a
[19:50] Speaker 2: little bit more about Eady.
[19:52] Speaker 4: They ain't banking on you lasting longer than five.
[19:54] Speaker 2: You got to surprise them.
[19:56] Speaker 4: Who?
[19:57] Speaker 1: Any pick past ten.
[19:59] Speaker 2: No.
[20:00] Speaker 4: They're not banking on you going past three years. They're
[20:02] Speaker 4: all 19. We're sending you to the G League. We're
[20:05] Speaker 4: all 19 years old, man.
[20:06] Speaker 2: We're sending you to the G League. Except the one
[20:08] Speaker 2: that's physically ready to play.
[20:09] Speaker 4: He's going to play now. The rest of y'all go
[20:11] Speaker 4: down there and get ready. He's ready to play, Gil.
[20:13] Speaker 4: Ready to do what?
[20:14] Speaker 1: Do what he's doing.
[20:15] Speaker 2: Do y'all know what Allen Iverson was 22?
[20:17] Speaker 4: You know what he came in doing?
[20:21] Speaker 6: That's what 22 looks like when it's hot, dude.
[20:24] Speaker 1: What? No, it's not, dude. That's what Allen Iverson looked like.
[20:28] Speaker 5: We need to take, like, the anomaly.
[20:30] Speaker 2: Yeah, I was 22 when I got drafted, dude.
[20:31] Speaker 4: He's tripping, man.
[20:32] Speaker 1: He's like, everybody was like Allen Iverson. Whoa, whoa, whoa.
[20:36] Speaker 2: You came in hurt. I was 22 when I got drafted.
[20:39] Speaker 6: But you came in hurt.
[20:39] Speaker 4: It doesn't matter.
[20:40] Speaker 1: It does matter. It does matter.
[20:42] Speaker 4: So if he wasn't hurt, what would matter? What would
[20:44] Speaker 4: be the difference?
[20:45] Speaker 6: I started the first year. He wouldn't be rehabbing. He
[20:47] Speaker 6: had to rehab the whole year.
[20:48] Speaker 4: But what would be different?
[20:49] Speaker 6: What I'm saying, he had to rehab the whole year,
[20:51] Speaker 6: so his first experience, did you even.
[20:52] Speaker 4: Play summer league?
[20:53] Speaker 1: No.
[20:54] Speaker 2: No.
[20:54] Speaker 4: It's very different.
[20:56] Speaker 1: What's the difference?
[20:58] Speaker 2: Gil, it's different for B.
[21:01] Speaker 1: You're a player of the year two years straight.
[21:03] Speaker 4: You're averaging 11 in drag.
[21:04] Speaker 1: And I have John Moran and Bane. Shaquille O'Neal, 20
[21:08] Speaker 1: years old, coming in.
[21:09] Speaker 4: Shaquille O'Neal coming in.
[21:10] Speaker 1: When he was 22 years old, he averaged 30.
[21:16] Speaker 7: Who was on his team?
[21:16] Speaker 2: How many years was that?
[21:17] Speaker 1: Who was on his team? Who did?
[21:18] Speaker 2: Who was on his team? His third year. So therefore... 20...
[21:23] Speaker 2: I'm 20... It doesn't matter how... It matters, Gil.
[21:26] Speaker 1: It does.
[21:27] Speaker 6: Your third year, you're going to be 25. You got
[21:29] Speaker 6: to use your age, not where.
[21:30] Speaker 2: You got drafted.
[21:32] Speaker 1: Why not?
[21:33] Speaker 2: Why doesn't where you get drafted matter?
[21:34] Speaker 6: Because that's what it matters.
[21:36] Speaker 1: No, it don't, bro.
[21:38] Speaker 2: How can he be in the league with... Why are
[21:40] Speaker 2: you confusing me here? So how can you compare when
[21:45] Speaker 2: them guys were in the NBA at 19? He's in college.
[21:49] Speaker 4: Yes.
[21:50] Speaker 2: Dominating.
[21:51] Speaker 4: Dominating in college.
[21:52] Speaker 1: Dominating. And you're not doing nothing. While you're developing, I'm dominating.
[21:56] Speaker 2: In college. He's developing as well.
[21:58] Speaker 1: And you're not playing in the league. You're watching. At 19,
[22:01] Speaker 1: I'm in the NBA averaging 10. Okay.
[22:03] Speaker 2: At 19, you was in college.
[22:07] Speaker 4: Average of 20.
[22:08] Speaker 2: I don't know what he was averaging at 19. That
[22:11] Speaker 2: would have probably been his sophomore year in college.
[22:14] Speaker 4: That's his year.
[22:15] Speaker 6: So right now, at the same age, I'm already here
[22:19] Speaker 6: above you.
[22:20] Speaker 2: You're not.
[22:21] Speaker 6: Because you're three years in front of me.
[22:23] Speaker 1: You're not above anybody.
[22:25] Speaker 2: You're just younger.
[22:25] Speaker 6: You're three years in front of me. averaging one more point.
[22:32] Speaker 2: I'm worth way more than you.
[22:34] Speaker 1: No, you're not.
[22:35] Speaker 4: It's circumstances here.
[22:36] Speaker 2: No, you're not.
[22:36] Speaker 4: The circumstances is, what does John Morant and Desmond Bain have?
[22:41] Speaker 2: So John Morant, as a 20-year-old rookie, rookie of the year,
[22:44] Speaker 2: averaged 18.7 assists. As a 20-year-old.
[22:46] Speaker 1: No, what is he averaging right now? Desmond Bain and
[22:49] Speaker 1: John Morant. So 22 years old. 21 and 10 and 5.
[22:50] Speaker 1: Wait a second here.
[22:51] Speaker 4: 21, 10, and 5.
[22:52] Speaker 1: Right now, John, as a 25-year-old.
[22:53] Speaker 2: Let me ask you a question. Is it different playing
[23:03] Speaker 2: basketball as a guard and as a big? Just the
[23:09] Speaker 2: game of basketball.
[23:11] Speaker 1: Yeah.
[23:12] Speaker 2: What's the difference? The guard has the ball. And the
[23:16] Speaker 2: big has to do what? Rely on what? The guard.
[23:19] Speaker 2: Somebody to pass him the fucking ball. Mm-hmm. So, therefore,
[23:24] Speaker 2: the guards that come in the league as the first pick,
[23:26] Speaker 2: second pick, third pick, fourth.
[23:29] Speaker 4: Pick, fifth pick, sixth pick, they're.
[23:33] Speaker 2: Going to have the ball in their fucking hands way
[23:35] Speaker 2: more than the big. Okay. Right?
[23:38] Speaker 1: Mm-hmm. There are certain exceptions to that. Uh-huh.
[23:42] Speaker 2: Right?
[23:42] Speaker 1: Mm-hmm.
[23:42] Speaker 2: Shaquille O'Neal.
[23:44] Speaker 1: Mm-hmm.
[23:44] Speaker 4: Didn't have no stars on the team.
[23:46] Speaker 2: Didn't have a dominant guard.
[23:49] Speaker 4: They're getting away with this.
[23:50] Speaker 2: Give me the ball.
[23:52] Speaker 1: Give me the ball. Listen, hold on.
[23:53] Speaker 2: When I came in my rookie year, who was my
[23:54] Speaker 2: point guard?
[23:58] Speaker 5: Uh.
[23:58] Speaker 2: Stephon Marbury.
[23:58] Speaker 4: Stephon Marbury.
[24:00] Speaker 2: I pay it to you. I listen to you when
[24:01] Speaker 2: you talk. Which was what? A score-first, ball-dominant point guard.
[24:06] Speaker 1: How much did you average that year?
[24:07] Speaker 2: 11, 12, whatever it was. You know what I'm saying?
[24:12] Speaker 2: Coming off of injury. Averaged 12 points as a rookie, right?
[24:16] Speaker 2: You averaged 12 points as a rookie. As a rookie.
[24:18] Speaker 2: And I was 22. Coming off of an injury. Coming
[24:21] Speaker 2: off of an injury, absolutely. All these things are facts.
[24:23] Speaker 2: And I got hurt again my rookie year. Right? I
[24:26] Speaker 2: broke my leg again in March of my rookie year.
[24:30] Speaker 1: Yeah, rough year.
[24:31] Speaker 2: Rough for like a whole year. Rough year and you
[24:34] Speaker 2: still averaged what? Average 12.
[24:36] Speaker 1: 12.
[24:36] Speaker 2: But I was 22. Average 12.
[24:39] Speaker 6: Pre-injured coming in, didn't get to train all summer.
[24:42] Speaker 2: Just raw talent coming in at your average 12.
[24:45] Speaker 4: But I had to rely. So listen, but I had
[24:47] Speaker 4: to rely. He had 82 games, right? And at the
[24:49] Speaker 4: end of the season, he averaged 12.
[24:51] Speaker 2: So, but I had to rely on somebody.
[24:52] Speaker 4: Five games in and he's averaging 10.
[24:54] Speaker 2: Right, I had to rely on somebody to pass me
[24:56] Speaker 2: the ball, right? Me coming in as a big. Had
[25:00] Speaker 2: I been the number one pick as a guard.
[25:04] Speaker 5: You'd have the ball.
[25:05] Speaker 6: That 12 would have been what? If I would have
[25:09] Speaker 6: been a guard coming in as the number one pick...
[25:10] Speaker 6: You'd have doubled it. You'd have doubled it.
[25:11] Speaker 2: Back then?
[25:12] Speaker 1: Yeah.
[25:13] Speaker 4: Because he would have more touches and more shots.
[25:15] Speaker 6: 18, 19 as a guard coming in as a rookie?
[25:17] Speaker 2: At least 20.
[25:18] Speaker 1: Maybe 20, right?
[25:19] Speaker 4: At least 20. Because he gets to shoot and he's
[25:21] Speaker 4: the number one pick.
[25:22] Speaker 1: I get what you're saying.
[25:23] Speaker 2: At the same age, right?
[25:25] Speaker 5: So what does he have to do? What do any
[25:27] Speaker 5: of these older.
[25:29] Speaker 1: He has to finish the season 17.
[25:29] Speaker 4: If he was a guard, I would agree with you.
[25:31] Speaker 4: Like Dwight Howard was not even an.
[25:32] Speaker 2: Option on his team.
[25:33] Speaker 1: 12 and 10.
[25:33] Speaker 4: Oh yeah, so he'll end up with.
[25:34] Speaker 2: 12 and 10. Or 12 and 9. At 19.
[25:46] Speaker 1: That's when he.
[25:48] Speaker 2: Got drafted, Gil.
[25:49] Speaker 1: At 19, he came out of high school. At 19.
[25:53] Speaker 2: That's when he got drafted. So he was able to
[25:55] Speaker 2: do that in the NBA. There was no way Zach
[25:58] Speaker 2: Eady could have did it in the NBA because he
[25:59] Speaker 2: wasn't there, Gil, at 19. He's there at 22. So
[26:02] Speaker 2: he's doing what he.
[26:03] Speaker 6: Can right now with the fact that he's maybe the
[26:07] Speaker 6: fourth option when he's on the floor at any given time.
[26:11] Speaker 2: I think that's pretty fucking good.
[26:13] Speaker 6: But you're playing the same way as a rookie. We're
[26:16] Speaker 6: expecting the rookie to have this.
[26:18] Speaker 4: AK, it's a conversation between Kevin Garnett and Tim Duncan.
[26:23] Speaker 4: You got Tim Duncan, which is a what?
[26:25] Speaker 2: He is Zach Eadie.
[26:26] Speaker 4: Tim Duncan's Zach Eadie. He's talking about a Kevin Garnett.
[26:31] Speaker 4: Kevin comes in at 19. He averages what as a rookie?
[26:35] Speaker 4: Tim Duncan, 21.
[26:36] Speaker 1: Give him Tim Duncan years. Like I said, he was
[26:40] Speaker 1: the exception.
[26:40] Speaker 4: What was KG's rookie year?
[26:43] Speaker 2: KG's rookie year. 21, right?
[26:45] Speaker 6: So I said, he is the exception. He's the big,
[26:47] Speaker 6: everything went through him. KG's rookie year, he averaged 10 points.
[26:51] Speaker 6: At 19.
[26:51] Speaker 1: 19.
[26:51] Speaker 4: Which rookie are you going to take? The one that's
[26:56] Speaker 4: averaging 21 or the one that's averaging 10? Which rookie
[27:00] Speaker 4: are you going to take? Not because of age. Which
[27:02] Speaker 4: rookie are you going to take? I'm taking Tim Duncan.
[27:05] Speaker 2: Averaging 21.
[27:06] Speaker 4: The two-time national player of the year.
[27:10] Speaker 2: Two times. Two times. Two times.
[27:13] Speaker 1: Two times.
[27:13] Speaker 2: Averaging what?
[27:15] Speaker 6: 21.
[27:15] Speaker 2: In what?
[27:16] Speaker 4: 21 and what?
[27:17] Speaker 2: I don't know.
[27:17] Speaker 1: I don't know.
[27:18] Speaker 2: What did it say? 21 and 12.
[27:20] Speaker 4: 21 and 12?
[27:20] Speaker 1: Yeah.
[27:22] Speaker 2: I guarantee if the offense ran through Zach Eady, he
[27:24] Speaker 2: shoots free throws well. If the offense ran through him
[27:28] Speaker 2: like they did Tim Duncan when he came, if this
[27:30] Speaker 2: was a different NBA, right?
[27:32] Speaker 1: Mm-hmm.
[27:33] Speaker 2: And the three ball wasn't so... And Ja wasn't what
[27:36] Speaker 2: he is for that team. And the offense had to
[27:38] Speaker 2: run through Zach Eady.
[27:39] Speaker 1: Mm-hmm.
[27:39] Speaker 2: Those numbers would be different at 22. I'm putting... So
[27:42] Speaker 2: you can.
[27:44] Speaker 2: You have to put everything in the box together and
[27:49] Speaker 2: add it up. You just can't take bits and pieces
[27:52] Speaker 2: out of it. You got to look at the totality
[27:53] Speaker 2: of his touches, who's on his team, the shots that
[27:57] Speaker 2: he's getting, the minutes that he's getting. So all these
[28:00] Speaker 2: things come into factor when you're saying that he only
[28:03] Speaker 2: averages 12 right now.
[28:04] Speaker 4: As the third option.
[28:05] Speaker 3: Well, let's take a look. Maybe to a four or five.
[28:07] Speaker 3: So Edie had the best odds entering the season. Monday,
[28:10] Speaker 3: he made some history. We got the video for y'all coming.
[28:15] Speaker 3: He dropped 25 points, 12 rebounds, four blocks against the net.
[28:18] Speaker 4: 11 for 12 from the field.
[28:22] Speaker 1: Man, if you don't move out of my way... Three-point attempt.
[28:26] Speaker 4: Come get this work down here.
[28:28] Speaker 3: So according to Stab Muse, he became the first rookie
[28:30] Speaker 3: in league history with.
[28:31] Speaker 4: A 20-10 game. I got a three-ball, too.
[28:33] Speaker 5: Hold that.
[28:34] Speaker 4: That's what I'm saying.
[28:36] Speaker 2: He doing that as a problem.
[28:38] Speaker 4: Hold that.
[28:39] Speaker 1: I got that, too. So he scored what?
[28:41] Speaker 3: So 25 points, 12 rebounds. According to Stab Muse, he
[28:44] Speaker 3: became the first rookie in league history with a 20-10
[28:46] Speaker 3: game while shooting 90% from the field.
[28:49] Speaker 2: That's a good stat, right? We like that stat? So
[28:53] Speaker 2: until this game, he was actually second.
[28:55] Speaker 4: Just a rookie.
[28:56] Speaker 1: Average or not.
[28:56] Speaker 4: He was just a rookie.
[28:58] Speaker 2: He was just a rookie.
[28:59] Speaker 4: So far this season, he's.
[29:03] Speaker 3: Averaging 11.1 points, highest amongst rookies, along with 6.5 rebounds,
[29:07] Speaker 3: shooting 65% from the field in 20.
[29:09] Speaker 2: Minutes per game. 20 minutes, Gil.
[29:10] Speaker 4: That's good for 20 minutes.
[29:11] Speaker 2: That's really good for 20 minutes.
[29:12] Speaker 8: 11 points in 20 minutes?
[29:20] Speaker 2: 11 and 6 in 20 minutes?
[29:21] Speaker 3: Taking the seventh most field goal attempts on the team
[29:24] Speaker 3: at this point.
[29:24] Speaker 2: In the season.
[29:25] Speaker 4: That's 19 a game, bro. He's a starter.
[29:27] Speaker 2: Yeah, that's not impressive.
[29:27] Speaker 4: 19 a game.
[29:28] Speaker 1: Easy.
[29:28] Speaker 4: If he's a starter.
[29:29] Speaker 5: In 20 minutes? How many minutes is the other?
[29:31] Speaker 2: He don't want to admit it. He's not going to
[29:33] Speaker 2: admit it.
[29:33] Speaker 4: He's never going to admit that.
[29:34] Speaker 2: He won't admit that. Hold on, stat man. Look up
[29:36] Speaker 2: the per 48 then. Or per 36, whatever it is.
[29:38] Speaker 2: It's 36. He's not going to admit that. Whatever it is.
[29:40] Speaker 4: Admit that.
[29:40] Speaker 2: Yeah, let's look up this.
[29:41] Speaker 1: He ain't going to let us. He's not going to
[29:44] Speaker 1: let us get away with this one. Per 36. So
[29:46] Speaker 1: right now it's between him and the Kevin.
[29:48] Speaker 4: We normally hate stats, but right now, I guess. Since
[29:52] Speaker 4: we want to do this. So per 36, he's averaging
[29:53] Speaker 4: 20 points, 12 rebounds.
[29:54] Speaker 2: Damn, Keith.
[30:00] Speaker 1: Damn.
[30:01] Speaker 2: And that's what he.
[30:01] Speaker 1: Damn.
[30:02] Speaker 4: And that's what he... Damn. He has.
[30:04] Speaker 1: I rest.
[30:05] Speaker 2: He has the average yet just to be normal.
[30:07] Speaker 4: I rest.
[30:08] Speaker 1: Damn.
[30:09] Speaker 5: Like, I don't know what.
[30:10] Speaker 2: I rest my case. Damn.
[30:11] Speaker 6: You're 22. You know who's 22 right now?
[30:13] Speaker 1: I rest my case.
[30:14] Speaker 4: Damn.
[30:14] Speaker 2: Who's 22?
[30:14] Speaker 4: Shang-Goon is 22. Who?
[30:16] Speaker 2: Shang-Goon is 22. Paulo.
[30:18] Speaker 6: Ben Chero's 22. Ben and the Leaf, how many years?
[30:20] Speaker 6: Jalen Green is 22. Ben and the Leaf, how many years?
[30:23] Speaker 2: Ant-Man is just 20.
[30:23] Speaker 6: That's his competition for his age.
[30:27] Speaker 4: Ben and the Leaf, how many years? That's his age.
[30:30] Speaker 4: Years of experience don't matter. It's his age.
[30:32] Speaker 2: And what's they per?
[30:33] Speaker 1: And what's they per 36? Your age is your age.
[30:38] Speaker 1: It's his age. I'm sorry.
[30:41] Speaker 4: Shangoon in his fourth season. Y'all might want.
[30:43] Speaker 6: To go back to the Michael Carter Williams interview. He
[30:48] Speaker 6: came in at 22 years old.
[30:49] Speaker 4: Yeah, we don't need that. He was rookie of the year.
[30:51] Speaker 2: Don't need that.
[30:52] Speaker 4: He was rookie of the year. Don't need that.
[30:55] Speaker 2: He averaged 16.
[30:56] Speaker 6: He came back for his sophomore year, averaged 14.
[30:58] Speaker 2: They said, we need to go younger.
[31:00] Speaker 6: He's 23 turning 24. For your age, you're not good enough.
[31:06] Speaker 4: And you're saying that because the Sixers said that.
[31:07] Speaker 1: In what position? You're saying that.
[31:09] Speaker 4: Hold on.
[31:09] Speaker 1: You're saying this is the standard because the Sixers said it.
[31:12] Speaker 1: What position did Michael Carter Williams play?
[31:14] Speaker 2: One card. So if that was in their eyes, he
[31:16] Speaker 2: digressed because he had the ball in his fucking hand.
[31:19] Speaker 1: And you ain't that good. You're too old for these numbers.
[31:23] Speaker 2: No, no.
[31:25] Speaker 1: He digressed as a player.
[31:26] Speaker 4: He was not good enough for this position.
[31:27] Speaker 1: Let's go get a younger guy. He was not good
[31:29] Speaker 1: enough for this position.
[31:30] Speaker 2: So therefore, he has the ball in his hands. Like
[31:33] Speaker 2: I said, there's a difference. There's a difference in playing
[31:37] Speaker 2: guard in this league and a big at this league at.
[31:40] Speaker 4: A young age.
[31:41] Speaker 1: He played better at the point blank period.
[31:44] Speaker 4: He was a better player.
[31:45] Speaker 6: When you come in at a certain age, you have
[31:48] Speaker 6: to be dominant.
[31:49] Speaker 2: No, you do not.
[31:50] Speaker 1: Yes, you do.
[31:50] Speaker 2: No, you do not.
[31:51] Speaker 4: When you're 19, you don't. That's Gilbert's perspective. No, that's
[31:54] Speaker 4: the NBA's perspective. No, it's not.
[31:57] Speaker 1: Then explain to these people.
[32:00] Speaker 6: How a two-time player of the year goes that late.
[32:07] Speaker 4: Please explain. How late?
[32:09] Speaker 2: How late?
[32:11] Speaker 1: What did you say? How did he get drafted? How
[32:15] Speaker 1: did he get drafted? You said you should be fired.
[32:19] Speaker 1: You should be fired if you draft him in the
[32:22] Speaker 1: first round. How many centers?
[32:23] Speaker 2: Hold on.
[32:25] Speaker 6: How many centers went in front of him that was
[32:27] Speaker 6: 19 years old and he's the two-time player of the year?
[32:31] Speaker 2: Please explain it then.
[32:32] Speaker 4: What two teams drafted him? Two stupid teams. Explain. Two
[32:36] Speaker 4: stupid teams.
[32:36] Speaker 2: Explain. Why did two 19-year-olds go in front of him?
[32:39] Speaker 4: You said he wasn't going to get drafted at all.
[32:41] Speaker 6: Why did two 19-year-olds go in front of him? Not
[32:43] Speaker 6: even two 19s. How many centers went in front of him?
[32:45] Speaker 4: Hold on. Two centers went in front of him, including
[32:48] Speaker 4: his teammate, Donovan Clingan.
[32:49] Speaker 1: Three centers.
[32:50] Speaker 2: Okay. Three big men.
[32:51] Speaker 4: Reece Ashe, technically a small four.
[32:53] Speaker 2: At seven foot.
[32:54] Speaker 6: So there's three seven-footers that went in front of him.
[32:57] Speaker 1: So the two of them, the two guys... So you're
[32:59] Speaker 1: saying this. You're saying this. That the two sinners.
[33:07] Speaker 1: Are better than him because they went before him? No.
[33:09] Speaker 2: What are you saying? What are you saying? So what
[33:11] Speaker 2: are you saying, then?
[33:11] Speaker 4: I'm saying explain if... Because they picked him.
[33:13] Speaker 5: Why did they pick the younger ones?
[33:14] Speaker 1: Because they wanted to fucking pick him. Why?
[33:17] Speaker 4: What do you mean?
[33:17] Speaker 1: Why did Portland pick Sam Bowie?
[33:20] Speaker 5: Why?
[33:20] Speaker 1: Why did Portland pick Sam Bowie?
[33:21] Speaker 2: I don't know. I'm asking this question.
[33:23] Speaker 1: I'm asking this question. No, what asking this question? No,
[33:25] Speaker 1: stay right here. Why did they pick Sam Bowie and
[33:27] Speaker 1: not Michael Jordan?
[33:29] Speaker 4: Why Kobe Bryant?
[33:30] Speaker 1: Why Kobe Bryant?
[33:31] Speaker 2: Hold on. Hold on. Say that again.
[33:32] Speaker 4: Why did Portland pick Sam Bowie?
[33:35] Speaker 2: Why did Portland pick Sam Bowie?
[33:37] Speaker 1: Yes.
[33:38] Speaker 6: How many guards did they have on the actual team
[33:41] Speaker 6: at that moment?
[33:42] Speaker 2: I don't care.
[33:42] Speaker 1: I don't care.
[33:43] Speaker 4: I know that Clyde Drexler wasn't there.
[33:45] Speaker 1: He was there.
[33:46] Speaker 2: Oh, my God.
[33:47] Speaker 6: Clyde Drexler was there, and Klay Thompson's daddy was there, right?
[33:51] Speaker 4: Michael Thompson, yes, Klay Thompson.
[33:52] Speaker 2: He was there.
[33:53] Speaker 6: How many actual shooting guards was on the team? So
[33:56] Speaker 6: they needed a center. Jordan is the best pick.
[34:00] Speaker 2: I'm pick.
[34:01] Speaker 1: You're proving my point.
[34:02] Speaker 4: You're proving my point. You're proving my point. Yeah, I
[34:04] Speaker 4: can't be proving your point because the number one pick.
[34:06] Speaker 2: Was a center.
[34:07] Speaker 4: Okay.
[34:07] Speaker 1: A center. Okay, so Sam Booey was a center. A center.
[34:10] Speaker 1: They didn't pick a fucking guard. Sam Bowie went to
[34:12] Speaker 1: Portland because they needed position, right?
[34:14] Speaker 4: They needed a big. Okay.
[34:15] Speaker 5: Why did y'all put them next to each other?
[34:17] Speaker 1: So if Atlanta Hawks need a fucking center, why did
[34:20] Speaker 1: they pick a 19-year-old center? They like the 19-year-old center.
[34:25] Speaker 4: Why?
[34:25] Speaker 1: Because they like them. Why? Because he's international. Why? Please
[34:31] Speaker 1: answer without.
[34:31] Speaker 2: A stupid fucking question.
[34:33] Speaker 1: You wanted to use position. They think they can.
[34:35] Speaker 4: Get a Wimby.
[34:36] Speaker 1: You tried to use another Wimby.
[34:40] Speaker 6: They failed. You tried to use a position. You tried
[34:43] Speaker 6: to use a position with the Michael Jordan. They didn't
[34:46] Speaker 6: get Michael Jordan because they already had three guards that
[34:50] Speaker 6: can score.
[34:51] Speaker 2: So they went with a big.
[34:53] Speaker 4: Now let's go back.
[34:54] Speaker 6: To the fucking question.
[34:56] Speaker 1: Atlanta Hawks needed a big.
[34:59] Speaker 2: There's a Two.
[35:02] Speaker 4: Time college MVP.
[35:06] Speaker 1: What position does he play? Center.
[35:09] Speaker 2: No.
[35:09] Speaker 4: Listed as a small forward.
[35:10] Speaker 2: No.
[35:11] Speaker 4: Which one?
[35:11] Speaker 1: Small forward.
[35:12] Speaker 5: This nigga said center.
[35:13] Speaker 1: A center.
[35:13] Speaker 4: Center.
[35:14] Speaker 1: Small forward. Center. And he's standing on it. He's standing
[35:18] Speaker 1: on it. Do y'all hear how he argues? Wait, lies?
[35:26] Speaker 4: He stands on that.
[35:28] Speaker 1: The second pick is the same.
[35:29] Speaker 4: Two senators went before him.
[35:31] Speaker 2: Two senators went before him. Not Atlanta, though.
[35:33] Speaker 1: Not Atlanta.
[35:34] Speaker 2: Washington.
[35:34] Speaker 1: Not Atlanta. Washington. Not Atlanta. Washington.
[35:38] Speaker 4: Now speak. Now Atlanta. Washington.
[35:40] Speaker 1: So ask why Atlanta didn't pick him.
[35:42] Speaker 4: Why didn't Washington pick him?
[35:44] Speaker 1: Atlanta, why didn't you pick him?
[35:46] Speaker 4: Washington. I know why they picked him.
[35:47] Speaker 2: Washington and who? Tell them. Washington and who?
[35:50] Speaker 4: Then the Blazers picked him. Washington and who?
[35:52] Speaker 1: Washington and Blazers. Tell them.
[35:53] Speaker 2: I know why they picked him. Because they fucking wanted to.
[35:56] Speaker 1: Okay, so Washington and Blazers. I need a real question.
[35:59] Speaker 4: Y'all was talking about how great he is.
[36:01] Speaker 6: There's two teams that needed a center.
[36:03] Speaker 2: And they chose to pick other guys.
[36:05] Speaker 1: Why? Because they wanted to. Why?
[36:07] Speaker 4: They evaluated.
[36:08] Speaker 1: Why? Evaluation.
[36:10] Speaker 4: Evaluation.
[36:11] Speaker 1: He is the best. Blood sugar.
[36:13] Speaker 4: Why?
[36:13] Speaker 1: He said, hey, we like your blood sugar level.
[36:16] Speaker 4: We like your EKG.
[36:17] Speaker 1: Your EKG.
[36:17] Speaker 2: Because it doesn't always go that way.
[36:19] Speaker 1: It beats a little different. We like the way it beats.
[36:21] Speaker 2: No, no, no.
[36:22] Speaker 1: We don't like the way your knees look.
[36:23] Speaker 2: No, no, no.
[36:24] Speaker 1: We don't like the way your knees look when you run.
[36:25] Speaker 1: You got it.
[36:26] Speaker 6: Answer intelligently oh.
[36:28] Speaker 1: Now we gotta talk we've been talking so stupid for so.
[36:33] Speaker 2: Long now we gotta talk smart no no no you.
[36:35] Speaker 6: Guys you guys said you guys are standing on how
[36:39] Speaker 6: great he is so if he's the best player in
[36:42] Speaker 6: the draft yes and we're going by position that means
[36:46] Speaker 6: he should be the first center there why does that.
[36:49] Speaker 2: Mean the third why does that mean that gill So
[36:52] Speaker 2: the team can't pick who they want to pick?
[36:54] Speaker 1: Why? They got to pick who you want them to pick.
[36:56] Speaker 2: Who's the college player?
[36:57] Speaker 4: Hold on. They got to pick who you want to pick.
[36:59] Speaker 2: Twice. Twice. John Wood Award, right? Two times. So therefore, listen,
[37:04] Speaker 2: that did not matter to the team, Gil.
[37:06] Speaker 1: Why? You got to fucking ask them that shit. Why?
[37:10] Speaker 4: Call them up. Why would they pick a 19-year-old there?
[37:13] Speaker 4: You got their phone number.
[37:14] Speaker 2: You play for them.
[37:15] Speaker 1: Call them.
[37:15] Speaker 4: Why pick a 19-year-old?
[37:16] Speaker 1: You call them. You said it was my logic, and
[37:19] Speaker 1: I said it's theirs.
[37:20] Speaker 4: So I'm saying, why.
[37:21] Speaker 5: Would they pick a younger person?
[37:23] Speaker 2: Why would a.
[37:24] Speaker 1: Call and ask them.
[37:27] Speaker 6: Why would a teen pick a 19-year-old? No, you said
[37:31] Speaker 6: it was my logic, and I said it's their logic.
[37:33] Speaker 1: So call and ask.
[37:34] Speaker 6: It's their logic. So why are they picking a 19-year-old
[37:39] Speaker 6: sinner who's not proven over a 22-year-old?
[37:41] Speaker 4: Because they're stupid, obviously.
[37:44] Speaker 8: You're trying to defend the stupidity. That's so crazy because
[37:49] Speaker 8: we talk about being in college longer and stopping these
[37:53] Speaker 8: young kids trying to chase this bread and they undeveloped,
[37:55] Speaker 8: and you sitting here.
[37:56] Speaker 1: Saying, this is okay.
[37:58] Speaker 4: It's not.
[37:58] Speaker 1: He always talking about this line.
[38:00] Speaker 2: It's not.
[38:00] Speaker 4: Gil, you always talking about this line.
[38:01] Speaker 1: He not ready. Whoa, whoa.
[38:02] Speaker 4: Gil, you always talking about this line them.
[38:04] Speaker 1: Up, right?
[38:04] Speaker 2: Let's play one, let's do this, that. I guarantee you. Guaranteed.
[38:09] Speaker 2: You line that boy up at the Wizards draft at
[38:11] Speaker 2: that center, and Zack Eady, Zack Eady eats his fucking lunch.
[38:15] Speaker 1: Every night.
[38:16] Speaker 4: Because he's three years older.
[38:18] Speaker 2: Oh, now it matters.
[38:19] Speaker 1: Now it fucking matters. You want to come play with
[38:20] Speaker 1: the big boys, but you want me to have an
[38:22] Speaker 1: age restriction. Hey, you want to come in here and
[38:25] Speaker 1: fight with the boys.
[38:26] Speaker 2: Let's see what he do.
[38:27] Speaker 6: So it don't matter if a freshman is playing a
[38:29] Speaker 6: senior and they're both averaging the same.
[38:31] Speaker 1: In the Army. In the Army. Are we not protected?
[38:35] Speaker 1: In the Army, does age matter? If you're 19 and
[38:38] Speaker 1: you enlist, if you're 33 and you enlist, you with everybody.
[38:42] Speaker 5: If you're older, you're older.
[38:43] Speaker 1: If a freshman, it always matters.
[38:45] Speaker 2: If a freshman averaged 20 points and a senior averaged
[38:48] Speaker 2: 20 points, who is better?
[38:54] Speaker 1: Who is better because of who averaged points?
[38:57] Speaker 4: Whose projection is better?
[38:58] Speaker 2: No, brother. The freshman that's averaging 20.
[39:01] Speaker 4: No, brother.
[39:03] Speaker 5: 100%.
[39:04] Speaker 1: Hold on. Because when you was a freshman, you was
[39:08] Speaker 1: on JV.
[39:08] Speaker 4: It's a difference. My freshman year, I was freshman. I
[39:11] Speaker 4: was player of the year. Freshman year of high school.
[39:13] Speaker 4: And I was tied with a senior.
[39:15] Speaker 2: With a senior. He was listed as better than me.
[39:21] Speaker 4: You were behind him?
[39:21] Speaker 1: Because he was a senior.
[39:22] Speaker 4: Did you believe that? I knew I was better.
[39:25] Speaker 1: But we had to share the award.
[39:27] Speaker 4: You shared the award. We had to. share with because
[39:30] Speaker 4: they thought he was better than me, but my numbers
[39:32] Speaker 4: said different. Hold on.
[39:33] Speaker 2: Whoa Gil Gil hold on Now now you're going back
[39:37] Speaker 2: to what I had your numbers as a senior Compared
[39:41] Speaker 2: to his numbers as a senior.
[39:43] Speaker 6: What was the same? Oh So you average as a
[39:45] Speaker 6: freshman the same as a senior?
[39:48] Speaker 4: No, I average less as a freshman, but I played,
[39:51] Speaker 4: I started and played enough to get the award.
[39:53] Speaker 6: No, no, no, what I'm saying is he's a senior
[39:56] Speaker 6: tying you on a war, right?
[39:58] Speaker 2: You're a freshman, he's a senior.
[40:00] Speaker 6: What I'm saying is when you became a senior, did
[40:04] Speaker 6: your numbers match his or were you past his?
[40:08] Speaker 2: He was gone.
[40:08] Speaker 5: No, when you got here.
[40:10] Speaker 1: We know what he had.
[40:11] Speaker 4: He never got his senior year. Your senior year.
[40:13] Speaker 1: I left where I was at to go to a
[40:15] Speaker 1: different place.
[40:17] Speaker 2: So let me ask you a question.
[40:18] Speaker 4: After my sophomore year.
[40:19] Speaker 2: Hey, fuck all that shit.
[40:20] Speaker 6: Did your sophomore year numbers beat his senior year numbers?
[40:23] Speaker 2: No. Yo, fuck all that shit.
[40:25] Speaker 1: Give.
[40:26] Speaker 2: We're talking about two professionals here. You brought up college shit.
[40:30] Speaker 2: Why did you... So you always want to move the
[40:32] Speaker 2: fucking goalposts. All the time. We're talking about the two
[40:34] Speaker 2: guys that got drafted in this fucking past draft. The
[40:37] Speaker 2: 19-year-old dude that you fucking... that you raving about.
[40:40] Speaker 1: 10-4-4.
[40:42] Speaker 4: The one that.
[40:42] Speaker 2: No, the fucking big.
[40:44] Speaker 1: No, the hard.
[40:45] Speaker 2: He says Shashar. Bub Carrington.
[40:47] Speaker 4: No, he Carrington. That's who he talking about.
[40:48] Speaker 2: I'm talking about the big.
[40:49] Speaker 4: Yes, Carrington. Who's the big? Sar is the big?
[40:52] Speaker 2: He plays center, right?
[40:53] Speaker 1: Yes.
[40:54] Speaker 2: That guy, he's 19. He got drafted by the Washington
[40:58] Speaker 2: Wizards as a center. He's a professional athlete right now, right?
[41:02] Speaker 6: Yes.
[41:03] Speaker 2: Zach Eaton's a professional athlete right now, right? Yes.
[41:06] Speaker 4: Line them two up that I'm talking about.
[41:09] Speaker 1: He ain't in fucking college.
[41:11] Speaker 4: He's a professional athlete.
[41:13] Speaker 1: Start.
[41:15] Speaker 2: Getting paid. Millions of dollars. I'm talking about that motherfucker.
[41:19] Speaker 2: Line him up with the dude in Memphis that went nine.
[41:22] Speaker 2: He eats his fucking lunch.
[41:23] Speaker 1: Every single time. Right now.
[41:26] Speaker 4: He's better than him.
[41:27] Speaker 2: Who the fuck his age? He's a professional athlete, right?
[41:30] Speaker 2: He's a professional athlete, right?
[41:31] Speaker 6: When Kobe got drafted, when Kobe got drafted, you can
[41:35] Speaker 6: line him up with any other shooting guard.
[41:38] Speaker 2: When.
[41:41] Speaker 6: When Kobe got drafted as shooting guard.
[41:45] Speaker 4: No, no, no, no, no.
[41:46] Speaker 2: We're going to do the same metrics. We're going to
[41:50] Speaker 2: do the same metrics.
[41:52] Speaker 6: We're going to name how many shooting guards is better
[41:55] Speaker 6: than Kobe when he got drafted. Two professionals.
[42:00] Speaker 2: Two professionals.
[42:02] Speaker 4: Let's go to his draft. We're talking about real time.
[42:06] Speaker 4: This draft, real time, right now. He can't function.
[42:08] Speaker 1: This draft.
[42:09] Speaker 4: This is too hot.
[42:11] Speaker 2: This draft. Gil, why you got to bring up niggas that.
[42:13] Speaker 6: Because you're bringing.
[42:15] Speaker 1: Up how he would eat his lunch.
[42:17] Speaker 6: I'm talking about who would have eaten Kobe's lunch when
[42:20] Speaker 6: he was drafted at 18.
[42:22] Speaker 1: But why did you have to use Kobe, though?
[42:24] Speaker 4: That's an extreme.
[42:25] Speaker 2: You're going to the extreme.
[42:26] Speaker 4: Can we use the normal person?
[42:27] Speaker 1: You're going to the extreme. You're talking to people that's
[42:29] Speaker 1: playing in the NBA right now.
[42:30] Speaker 4: He's not on Kobe level for you to go get Kobe.
[42:33] Speaker 1: You trying to use Kobe for the extreme example.
[42:35] Speaker 2: Wait.
[42:36] Speaker 4: You can't show nothing.
[42:37] Speaker 1: You use the two people that we're talking about right now.
[42:41] Speaker 1: Use the two people that we told you about.
[42:43] Speaker 2: You can use it every year.
[42:45] Speaker 1: A 22-year-old should fuck up an 18 or 19-year-old.
[42:48] Speaker 4: That is the purpose.
[42:49] Speaker 2: The age gap.
[42:50] Speaker 1: Is very different.
[42:52] Speaker 4: So why are you in your league?
[42:55] Speaker 1: It's a man's league. It's a man's league.
[42:57] Speaker 4: What happens when.
[42:58] Speaker 1: The 19-year-old... Why did they draft him at 19?
[43:01] Speaker 4: Why did your former team draft him?
[43:03] Speaker 2: Who?
[43:04] Speaker 1: At 19. The fucking Washington Wizard.
[43:06] Speaker 2: Because he's 19. Because they wanted to, right?
[43:08] Speaker 4: So that means... At 22.
[43:09] Speaker 2: Because they wanted to draft him. At 22. I see it.
[43:12] Speaker 1: Because they wanted to draft him. Because he's 19. Because
[43:15] Speaker 1: they wanted to draft him. Because he's 19.
[43:18] Speaker 6: We think when he turns 22, he will be averaging
[43:21] Speaker 6: more than fucking.
[43:22] Speaker 4: 11 and 6.
[43:22] Speaker 2: No, no, no, no, no, no.
[43:23] Speaker 1: When he turns 22, he's going to be averaging more
[43:26] Speaker 1: than 11 and 6. He'll be like Zach Eaddy.
[43:28] Speaker 4: No, he'll be better.
[43:29] Speaker 1: No, he'll be like Zach Eaddy.
[43:30] Speaker 5: Why does the age matter?
[43:32] Speaker 1: Three years from now, you'll be like he is this
[43:34] Speaker 1: freaking year. That's what you're lining up for.
[43:36] Speaker 4: In three years, he would not be better than Zach Eaddy.
[43:39] Speaker 1: That's what you're lining up for.
[43:40] Speaker 5: Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. This kid and Zach Edie
[43:41] Speaker 5: are going to.
[43:42] Speaker 1: Three years from now?
[43:44] Speaker 8: Three years from now, Zach Edie's going to be here.
[43:46] Speaker 8: It's going to take you so much more longer to
[43:49] Speaker 8: get to Zach Edie three years from now.
[43:51] Speaker 6: Three years from now, when he turns 22, Zach Edie's
[43:56] Speaker 6: numbers at 22, they're not even comparable.
[43:59] Speaker 1: Because he's going to be averaging 25 and 13. Who? Zach.
[44:03] Speaker 1: He's going to dominate this league.
[44:05] Speaker 6: Are you forgetting one is three years behind, dude?
[44:10] Speaker 2: He's three years behind.
[44:11] Speaker 4: So you banking on Alex Saar to dominate the league?
[44:14] Speaker 4: He's three years behind.
[44:16] Speaker 6: No, what I'm saying is he's three years behind. Are
[44:18] Speaker 6: you not missing the concept? He's 22 years old right
[44:22] Speaker 6: now turning 23 this year, right?
[44:25] Speaker 4: So 19, 20.
[44:26] Speaker 2: 21, numbers really don't fucking matter.
[44:29] Speaker 1: When he turns 22, will he average more than this
[44:32] Speaker 1: guy that we're drafting today?
[44:35] Speaker 4: He is three years above.
[44:36] Speaker 6: That's like teaching two kids, one 19, one 16, the
[44:41] Speaker 6: same fucking move. You're teaching them the same fucking move.
[44:45] Speaker 6: When this kid turns 19, will he have been better
[44:48] Speaker 6: than what he was in 19?
[44:49] Speaker 4: The answer is yes.
[44:50] Speaker 1: What if he's not?
[44:52] Speaker 4: That's the gamble that they do. No, no, that's the
[44:54] Speaker 4: gamble that you're taking with this take.
[44:56] Speaker 1: That's the gamble that they make.
[44:57] Speaker 4: This take is a gamble. You're making a gamble with
[44:59] Speaker 4: this take because you're using a hypothetical. It's not a hypothetical.
[45:03] Speaker 1: This is what it's being.
[45:04] Speaker 5: What if it gets to year three and he's not?
[45:05] Speaker 2: A what if is a hypothetical. Let me step in
[45:07] Speaker 2: real quick. Let me step in. We asked the chat,
[45:11] Speaker 2: is it obvious? 81% said yes. I don't know what's obvious,
[45:15] Speaker 2: but it is. But let's keep this thing moving. Very
[45:17] Speaker 2: spirited debate discussion. devoted a little bit more time to
[45:20] Speaker 2: Zach Eaddy than I initially had expected, but very passionate
[45:25] Speaker 2: on this lovely Wednesday here in Gills Arena presented by Underdog.
[45:28] Speaker 1: My simple question.
[45:30] Speaker 3: So Grizzlies take on the Lakers tonight in Memphis, who
[45:34] Speaker 3: desperately need a dub to cap off their five-game road trip.
[45:38] Speaker 3: Lakers are riding high after starting the season with three
[45:40] Speaker 3: straight wins, but things went south during their first road
[45:44] Speaker 3: trip with the Purple and Gold losing three of their
[45:46] Speaker 3: last four games.
[45:47] Speaker 2: Like I predicted.
[45:48] Speaker 4: Including a.
[45:48] Speaker 5: Oh, yeah, what did we say?
[45:49] Speaker 1: Oh, shit.
[45:50] Speaker 5: We said 317.
[45:51] Speaker 2: Now you're being negativity.
[45:52] Speaker 1: To the team.
[45:53] Speaker 2: You're so negative.
[45:55] Speaker 4: So negative.
[45:55] Speaker 5: About their first 10, right?
[45:56] Speaker 4: What?
[45:57] Speaker 2: What'd I say?
[45:57] Speaker 5: They can even do 317, right?
[46:00] Speaker 2: Well, four and three right now, so that prediction is cute. Outperformed.
[46:04] Speaker 4: Outperformed. With three games to go.
[46:07] Speaker 3: Lost three of their last four games, including a loss
[46:10] Speaker 3: at the Pistons Monday night. Very difficult to watch for
[46:13] Speaker 3: fans of basketball. But AD's been playing at an MVP
[46:19] Speaker 3: level this season.
[46:19] Speaker 2: This is a good game.
[46:21] Speaker 3: But re-aggravated a nagging left foot injury with about six
[46:24] Speaker 3: minutes remaining in the game.
[46:26] Speaker 2: After limping up and.
[46:27] Speaker 3: Down the court for a few more possessions.
[46:30] Speaker 4: He dropped to the ground.
[46:32] Speaker 2: Not once.
[46:33] Speaker 1: Set that shit up, D & AD.
[46:35] Speaker 2: Not once, but twice. Hold on.
[46:37] Speaker 3: See the limp? Looked like he was crip-walking for a second.
[46:40] Speaker 1: Set that shit up, D & AD.
[46:43] Speaker 2: But this play right here, after a timeout, stoppage of play,
[46:48] Speaker 2: dropped to the ground.
[46:49] Speaker 1: He's leading the league.
[46:50] Speaker 5: In scoring right now, isn't he?
[46:51] Speaker 1: But... Can't walk to the locker room, dude.
[46:54] Speaker 2: AD stayed in the game, though. Can't walk to the
[46:56] Speaker 2: locker room, dawg. Is that the soft shit we was
[46:58] Speaker 2: talking about? You can't walk to the locker room, dawg?
[46:59] Speaker 3: He stayed in the game, can you? He got briefly examined.
[47:03] Speaker 2: He got to be carried.
[47:05] Speaker 4: Briefly examined.
[47:06] Speaker 5: He's in the league, right?
[47:07] Speaker 2: So AD stayed in.
[47:08] Speaker 4: We're going to get there.
[47:09] Speaker 3: AD stayed in the game, finished with 37 points, nine rebounds,
[47:12] Speaker 3: four assists, 39 minutes of action. So AD was asked
[47:15] Speaker 3: about the injury and the potential of missing some time,
[47:17] Speaker 3: but shut that down saying, I've been managing it since
[47:19] Speaker 3: this summer. Honestly, my goal for every game is to
[47:22] Speaker 3: be on the floor, and I just kind of landed
[47:24] Speaker 3: directly on the spot that's been killing me.
[47:26] Speaker 2: So we'll figure it out. So LeBron was also asked
[47:29] Speaker 2: about AD's injury in the locker room with AD nearby
[47:32] Speaker 2: and had this to say.
[47:34] Speaker 4: We just talked to AD. Usually when he's been kind
[47:37] Speaker 4: of banged up, he's been fairly positive about what's in
[47:39] Speaker 4: front of him today.
[47:40] Speaker 1: I think more uncertainty from him.
[47:44] Speaker 2: Say that again?
[47:45] Speaker 1: There's maybe more uncertainty in kind of what's ahead of him.
[47:49] Speaker 2: Yeah.
[47:49] Speaker 4: What's that going to.
[47:50] Speaker 1: Mean for this team? What, if AD's out?
[47:52] Speaker 4: Mm-hmm.
[47:55] Speaker 2: What do you mean?
[47:55] Speaker 1: You want me to answer a question you know the
[47:57] Speaker 1: answer to?
[47:57] Speaker 4: I mean, I guess how concerned are you? How concerned
[48:01] Speaker 4: are you? I don't know.
[48:02] Speaker 1: I'm going second by second. if he's out for a stretch. Yeah,
[48:11] Speaker 1: I don't.
[48:13] Speaker 2: Want to play the if game.
[48:14] Speaker 6: I'm going for AD sales and see how he feels
[48:16] Speaker 6: over the next couple days and go for air.
[48:18] Speaker 2: I'm going.
[48:21] Speaker 1: To take a rocket science and go AD zero.
[48:23] Speaker 4: He shouldn't be invited back. Dan Wonk, you're good, man.
[48:27] Speaker 4: He's a hoot. That's trash. You don't even get to
[48:31] Speaker 4: ask me no more questions, bro. This is an audition.
[48:33] Speaker 2: PR chick behind him, so. Dan Wilkie, great relationship with LeBron.
[48:36] Speaker 2: That was nasty.
[48:37] Speaker 4: Just curious.
[48:37] Speaker 2: That was nasty.
[48:38] Speaker 4: Just curious. Long-time Lakers re-reporter.
[48:42] Speaker 2: Man of the people.
[48:43] Speaker 4: You know he's not trying to answer it.
[48:44] Speaker 2: Move on.
[48:45] Speaker 4: Yeah.
[48:46] Speaker 2: Move on.
[48:46] Speaker 1: You're trying to corner the man.
[48:49] Speaker 2: You know what I mean?
[48:50] Speaker 1: Like, I can say, hey, so, uh.
[48:52] Speaker 2: And then you start giving me that look.
[48:53] Speaker 4: So, uh, you know what? I got a new question.
[48:55] Speaker 2: Yeah.
[48:57] Speaker 1: What kind of question is that?
[48:58] Speaker 2: What you want? Come on, man. In Dan's defense, LeBron
[49:02] Speaker 2: did not pull out the brush yet.
[49:03] Speaker 3: LeBron did not pull out the brush and start vigorously...
[49:06] Speaker 3: Getting the 360s going, but now I understand what y'all saying.
[49:09] Speaker 3: So AD's had questions about his durability in the past.
[49:10] Speaker 2: No.
[49:10] Speaker 4: He can do more?
[49:11] Speaker 2: He's not being asked to do too much. Okay. This
[49:12] Speaker 3: Did play 76 games last season while averaging 35.5 minutes
[49:16] Speaker 3: per game, both highs since joining the Lakers.
[49:18] Speaker 4: This season he's played in every game.
[49:37] Speaker 2: is what we've been saying. So, no, I don't.
[49:39] Speaker 4: How much did he get paid?
[49:41] Speaker 2: Yeah, he's 32 and 12. You know, a reasonable amount.
[49:44] Speaker 5: A reasonable amount.
[49:45] Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't think he's been able to do that.
[49:47] Speaker 4: Comparatively.
[49:48] Speaker 6: The conversation I remember having was. He's been thinking that
[49:50] Speaker 6: it should be games. So, he had 37. Brown almost
[49:53] Speaker 6: had a triple-double, and they lost.
[49:56] Speaker 2: Did not win, Kenny, yes.
[49:59] Speaker 4: A gritty pitching squad.
[50:00] Speaker 2: The other team had more points than y'all did.
[50:02] Speaker 3: One of the top teams in the bottom third of
[50:04] Speaker 3: the Eastern Conference.
[50:05] Speaker 2: Yeah, you know what I'm saying? It's early. It's early,
[50:07] Speaker 2: but no. It's early. I think he can keep it up.
[50:09] Speaker 2: He just got to be out there to keep it up.
[50:11] Speaker 4: We know this.
[50:11] Speaker 1: We know this from him. He's knick-knack, knick-knack, patty-whack.
[50:15] Speaker 2: Knick-knack, right?
[50:16] Speaker 1: He's Mr.
[50:16] Speaker 2: Knick-knack, man.
[50:18] Speaker 4: And he did sign a three-year contract. That's nasty just
[50:20] Speaker 4: to see the knick-knack, and you can see, like, that's
[50:22] Speaker 4: going to happen all year long.
[50:23] Speaker 1: He's going to do that all year long.
[50:26] Speaker 2: So, it's the perception of things.
[50:28] Speaker 1: Yep. Okay, you're going to have.
[50:30] Speaker 2: To go to the back. I said maybe, because I... Dude,
[50:32] Speaker 2: go sit on the bench.
[50:33] Speaker 5: All that carrying on.
[50:34] Speaker 2: No, don't sit on the floor, though. Don't sit on
[50:36] Speaker 2: the floor. Hey, don't sit on the floor. Trying to
[50:38] Speaker 2: tough it out. You go tough it out and sit
[50:39] Speaker 2: on the bench.
[50:40] Speaker 5: Yeah, it's just.
[50:41] Speaker 4: It was right there. Yeah.
[50:42] Speaker 1: Four more steps.
[50:43] Speaker 2: Footy out of it.
[50:44] Speaker 5: Go figure it out and get back in the game.
[50:46] Speaker 2: It's four more steps.
[50:49] Speaker 1: Right?
[50:49] Speaker 2: That's all we're saying. It's stuff like that that make
[50:51] Speaker 2: people be like.
[50:53] Speaker 5: There you go.
[50:55] Speaker 2: He had a great game, right? He had 37. It's
[50:57] Speaker 2: his feet, ankles, everything.
[50:59] Speaker 3: Left foot injury, says been nagging him about him since
[51:01] Speaker 3: the summer. Landed right on the spot, he said, and
[51:04] Speaker 3: re-aggravated it. Limped up and down the court. Stayed in
[51:07] Speaker 3: the game, though. Toughed it out against a gritty Piston squad.
[51:10] Speaker 2: It has to be a shoot. The better rushes in
[51:12] Speaker 2: the book.
[51:12] Speaker 4: I don't know. Go get some Jordans, dog.
[51:20] Speaker 5: Why Jordans?
[51:21] Speaker 2: Not even age of zero.
[51:21] Speaker 1: Yeah.
[51:22] Speaker 2: Y'all know anybody who.
[51:23] Speaker 4: Twisted their ankles in Jordan's?
[51:25] Speaker 2: He's a Nike guy.
[51:26] Speaker 5: That's true.
[51:27] Speaker 1: Sometimes you got to practice system, K.
[51:28] Speaker 6: Because the way Jordans are made, it's the support is
[51:33] Speaker 6: in the heel itself. So it stops you from rolling, right?
[51:38] Speaker 6: So they've mastered the heel. So that's why you really
[51:41] Speaker 6: never see people that, twisted ankles and MJ, so go
[51:45] Speaker 6: get you some MJs, man.
[51:46] Speaker 2: Yeah, because the street version of Michael Jordan's different. Not
[51:49] Speaker 2: the real ones, not that, yeah. Not the one they
[51:51] Speaker 2: sell in the store and the ones you can go
[51:52] Speaker 2: play in the one they get basketball version. Get the
[51:55] Speaker 2: from Nike. Yeah. No, no, Nike's headquarters, not Nike shop. Yeah,
[51:58] Speaker 2: not Nike.
[51:58] Speaker 6: Headquarter where they, it's just weird that he's always having
[52:02] Speaker 6: like little, I mean, I know he's big, so.
[52:03] Speaker 1: Like little tweaks.
[52:04] Speaker 4: You know.
[52:04] Speaker 2: Yeah, he's, Bambi legs, I believe he's been referred to
[52:08] Speaker 2: on this comment.
[52:08] Speaker 5: He did power through.
[52:09] Speaker 2: That's an improvement.
[52:11] Speaker 6: But he's playing amazing right now. Like, this is the
[52:14] Speaker 6: shit that.
[52:15] Speaker 2: We've been waiting for. Like, before, he probably wouldn't have
[52:16] Speaker 2: sat down. He probably wouldn't have finished the game.
[52:18] Speaker 4: He need a big girl.
[52:20] Speaker 1: He need a big girl?
[52:21] Speaker 2: No, no, no, no, no.
[52:22] Speaker 4: Work on his legs.
[52:23] Speaker 2: No, because big girls all gonna get picked up.
[52:25] Speaker 4: Yeah, that's what I'm saying.
[52:26] Speaker 1: He got the chicken legs.
[52:27] Speaker 4: He need to be... Nobody got time for that. Why?
[52:29] Speaker 2: Nobody got time for that, baby.
[52:31] Speaker 1: Get in there and get underneath that thing.
[52:32] Speaker 2: Functional squatting. Functional squatting.
[52:34] Speaker 1: Weightlifting won't help that. He got bad hamstrings.
[52:37] Speaker 5: Weightlifting wouldn't help.
[52:39] Speaker 1: No, no, no. It's got to be down and up.
[52:42] Speaker 2: Just dead weight, huh?
[52:43] Speaker 1: It's got to be straight up. It's got to be
[52:46] Speaker 1: throughout the day. It's throughout the day. Down and up.
[52:48] Speaker 2: No, they do that now. It's the one with the
[52:51] Speaker 2: water in it that just moves, just keeps you up.
[52:53] Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah.
[52:55] Speaker 2: Keep that weight shifting.
[52:58] Speaker 4: I'm telling you. He don't really want to do that
[52:59] Speaker 4: kind of work.
[53:01] Speaker 1: He's ready to do this.
[53:03] Speaker 4: I mean, I.
[53:04] Speaker 3: Talked to you guys beginning of the season. about guys
[53:08] Speaker 3: playing in the Olympics.
[53:11] Speaker 4: You said M.B.
[53:12] Speaker 2: Shouldn't have played. I know, right?
[53:14] Speaker 5: Like, how do we get there?
[53:16] Speaker 1: This is Gil's arena. Get his legs stronger. He's talking
[53:19] Speaker 1: about his legs.
[53:19] Speaker 4: He's being durable.
[53:20] Speaker 2: Building legs. It's easy for your short dudes, man. Like,
[53:23] Speaker 2: us tall dudes, like, weight. Difficult.
[53:25] Speaker 4: That's what I'm saying.
[53:27] Speaker 2: It's like fast twitch. It's fast. Man, 6'11. You're going
[53:30] Speaker 2: to twist this thing. Now you're going to have a meniscus.
[53:33] Speaker 1: You got to get strong somehow.
[53:34] Speaker 2: You're going to have an MCL and a meniscus injury.
[53:38] Speaker 2: He really got to be on that, like, yoga yoga.
[53:40] Speaker 2: Like Wimby, Kareem.
[53:41] Speaker 5: Yoga and Pilates.
[53:43] Speaker 1: Yoga and Pilates.
[53:44] Speaker 4: He really has to. You got to talk to Carl.
[53:46] Speaker 4: I mean, never mind.
[53:49] Speaker 3: Beginning of the season, I asked you guys how the
[53:51] Speaker 3: Olympics would impact guys like A.D.
[53:53] Speaker 2: Brown. We're seeing the impact it's had on him.
[53:55] Speaker 1: Look at Jason Tatum.
[53:56] Speaker 5: He's looking great.
[53:58] Speaker 4: I think they put an emphasis on being more in
[54:00] Speaker 4: shape than they do actually being strong and durable throughout
[54:04] Speaker 4: the season. They just feel like if I'm in shape,
[54:07] Speaker 4: I should be a tip-top shape, not actually being like
[54:10] Speaker 4: your body being 100% healthy. I think that's the thing
[54:13] Speaker 4: that everybody's failing to realize. You can be in great shape,
[54:17] Speaker 4: but then your body's breaking down because you're staying in shape,
[54:21] Speaker 4: but you're not paying attention.
[54:22] Speaker 5: With the shorter training camp, though, do you think that
[54:24] Speaker 5: is impacting these guys? Because now they're having to more
[54:28] Speaker 5: play themselves into shape rather than training camp.
[54:30] Speaker 1: Yes, that's what I'm saying as far as cardio, just
[54:32] Speaker 1: being ready to play all the time.
[54:33] Speaker 4: Did you have a lot of ankle sprains not early on?
[54:37] Speaker 1: Right?
[54:37] Speaker 2: But throughout, I had a little twist and all that,
[54:40] Speaker 2: but I had a little sprain in my shit.
[54:43] Speaker 6: I guess the guys who actually get off the floor.
[54:47] Speaker 2: Don't really have... Yeah, we got strong ankles for the
[54:51] Speaker 2: most part.
[54:51] Speaker 4: And if you do have a twist, it's because you're
[54:53] Speaker 4: down there with the goofy big man with the big feet.
[54:56] Speaker 4: You might twist a little bit.
[54:58] Speaker 6: When you think about the bigs that actually get off
[55:00] Speaker 6: the floor, you don't really see them with ankle injuries.
[55:03] Speaker 2: Nah. They're always the ones in the way.
[55:06] Speaker 1: Yeah.
[55:06] Speaker 5: Well, also, like, Embiid and AD, they be on the
[55:09] Speaker 5: floor a lot. They fall a lot.
[55:10] Speaker 4: They don't know how to control themselves.
[55:12] Speaker 5: They are always on the ground.
[55:13] Speaker 2: Clumsy. But he's averaging 32 and what?
[55:16] Speaker 1: 33 points per game. What's the record?
[55:19] Speaker 4: Four and three.
[55:20] Speaker 2: Winning record. In a very tough Western Conference.
[55:23] Speaker 4: Very tough Western Conference. What was the record we said?
[55:27] Speaker 4: That they was going to end up winning.
[55:29] Speaker 1: 3-10 or 3-7.
[55:30] Speaker 4: Something extremely disrespectful.
[55:31] Speaker 5: Something losing.
[55:32] Speaker 2: I think it was 4-10.
[55:32] Speaker 5: We're about to go on.
[55:33] Speaker 2: A five-game win. Already surpassed expectations.
[55:39] Speaker 4: I think you might have said.
[55:41] Speaker 5: Five and five or four and six or something.
[55:44] Speaker 4: Five and five. Gil said five and five. You said
[55:46] Speaker 4: five and five.
[55:47] Speaker 2: Yeah, he did.
[55:47] Speaker 1: Hell no, I didn't.
[55:48] Speaker 4: Oh, yeah.
[55:50] Speaker 2: I said seven and three.
[55:52] Speaker 4: You finally got a fact checker over there.
[55:54] Speaker 1: You finally got a fact checker.
[55:56] Speaker 6: I said seven and three, possibly eight and two.
[55:59] Speaker 1: He's the fact checker.
[56:00] Speaker 6: I would never go five and five if I'm not
[56:03] Speaker 6: on my team.
[56:06] Speaker 4: I had hot. I'd never go five and five. Are
[56:09] Speaker 4: you crazy?
[56:09] Speaker 2: You said seven and three?
[56:10] Speaker 4: Seven and three or eight and two.
[56:13] Speaker 1: So we're about to win the next three games. What
[56:17] Speaker 1: are you talking about? Five and five.
[56:20] Speaker 5: Actually, y'all go win two out of three.
[56:22] Speaker 1: Y'all go win two out of three.
[56:23] Speaker 5: Who are the next two? 76ers and the Raptors.
[56:26] Speaker 2: Oh, they're not winning. Neither one of them.
[56:27] Speaker 1: Smack, smack.
[56:29] Speaker 4: They're not beating the 76ers. Grizzlies tonight.
[56:31] Speaker 2: Oh, they just lose.
[56:31] Speaker 4: Grizzlies tonight. Sixers Friday.
[56:33] Speaker 3: Smack.
[56:34] Speaker 1: Who?
[56:35] Speaker 4: How many games did Detroit win last year?
[56:37] Speaker 2: We're not worried about last year, Sean. Okay. This is
[56:40] Speaker 2: a playoff level team currently. We're talking about the J.J.
[56:42] Speaker 4: Riddick, Los Angeles Lakers.
[56:44] Speaker 5: You don't think they're going to beat the 76ers here?
[56:45] Speaker 4: Winning and loss to the who coaches the Detroit Pistons now?
[56:50] Speaker 2: J.B.
[56:50] Speaker 4: Bickerstaff.
[56:51] Speaker 1: J.B.
[56:52] Speaker 2: Bickerstaff.
[56:52] Speaker 5: They're going to be filling here.
[56:54] Speaker 3: This is top ten in the East right now. Top
[56:55] Speaker 3: ten in the East. Better record than the Sixers.
[56:57] Speaker 5: They're going to be filling here.
[56:58] Speaker 1: Whoop that ass.
[56:58] Speaker 2: Very good team.
[57:00] Speaker 4: We got these next three games. We'll be seven and ten.
[57:02] Speaker 4: 76 is going to put a.
[57:04] Speaker 2: Whop, whop, whop, whop, whop.
[57:06] Speaker 4: Fuck them up.
[57:06] Speaker 2: Without who?
[57:07] Speaker 5: No, they're not.
[57:07] Speaker 4: Whop, whop, whop, whop, whop.
[57:09] Speaker 3: We will be in the building. I'm going to do
[57:10] Speaker 3: what's up. For the Sixers game. Supporting KJ Martin.
[57:12] Speaker 1: Why you trolling like a bitch? Ain't you tired?
[57:18] Speaker 3: But Gil, I mean, just looking at AD again, his
[57:21] Speaker 3: injury history, you think it's fine to try to keep him?
[57:25] Speaker 3: keep having him carry this much of the workload.
[57:29] Speaker 6: He's not doing anything that he can't do.
[57:32] Speaker 2: You know what I mean?
[57:33] Speaker 6: It's not like we're forcing him to just be dominant.
[57:37] Speaker 6: He's just being dominant.
[57:38] Speaker 4: That is true.
[57:39] Speaker 5: You think they got to lower his minutes at all?
[57:42] Speaker 1: Not right now.
[57:43] Speaker 6: I don't... We really don't have enough coming off the bench.
[57:50] Speaker 6: Do we even have any solid bigs coming off the bench?
[57:53] Speaker 2: So, Gil, my next question, Lakers still without Christian Wood,
[57:57] Speaker 2: Jaron Vanderbilt, both still recovering.
[57:59] Speaker 1: Say that again?
[58:00] Speaker 2: Without Christian Wood and Jaron Vanderbilt.
[58:02] Speaker 4: Okay, stop at the first one.
[58:04] Speaker 2: Yeah.
[58:05] Speaker 4: The fact that y'all having this conversation just tells me
[58:09] Speaker 4: y'all cooked.
[58:10] Speaker 1: Y'all so cooked.
[58:11] Speaker 2: Two vital players. Two vital role players. That's a three.
[58:14] Speaker 2: What is it? Two, three, four?
[58:15] Speaker 4: Two, three? Vital role players.
[58:17] Speaker 2: I know, but I'm saying... Words are big. We need some... Okay,
[58:20] Speaker 2: that's what we got. The fact that.
[58:21] Speaker 4: Y'all asking, like, should we decrease his minutes?
[58:24] Speaker 2: No, never.
[58:25] Speaker 4: He stays healthy?
[58:26] Speaker 2: Just manage his workload. What? 200 and how many million?
[58:30] Speaker 2: Like 180, not that.
[58:32] Speaker 2: I didn't realize last year was the most games he's
[58:34] Speaker 2: ever played. You didn't know that?
[58:37] Speaker 4: No.
[58:38] Speaker 6: I just assumed when he was fucking 19, 20, 20,
[58:42] Speaker 6: he was playing 77, 80 games.
[58:45] Speaker 4: Don't you think he should have been rewarded for that?
[58:47] Speaker 4: He should have got a championship for all that.
[58:50] Speaker 2: He actually did, Sean. End-season tournament championship.
[58:54] Speaker 3: He did get a championship. Did get rewarded for that
[58:57] Speaker 3: stellar play.
[58:57] Speaker 1: He actually did.
[58:58] Speaker 2: With hanging another banner.
[59:00] Speaker 1: He deserves some time off.
[59:01] Speaker 2: He deserves some time off. Take your time, Andy.
[59:03] Speaker 5: No.
[59:04] Speaker 4: Take your time.
[59:04] Speaker 3: But just the point, though, without Christian Woodson, without Vanderbilt,
[59:08] Speaker 3: just letting that be known, Lakers are 30th in bench
[59:11] Speaker 3: scoring right now.
[59:13] Speaker 5: 30th?
[59:14] Speaker 1: 30th. With that killer bench that they got?
[59:16] Speaker 4: 23rd in that rating.
[59:17] Speaker 8: That killer bench that the Lakers got?
[59:20] Speaker 2: Come on. Man, we can't ask Bronny to do everything.
[59:23] Speaker 2: Come on, man. I can do everything. I mean, we
[59:25] Speaker 2: can't ask him to do everything. But we picked him
[59:26] Speaker 2: for it.
[59:27] Speaker 6: He's grabbing water. He's getting towels. He's keeping everybody up.
[59:30] Speaker 1: BD's doing it.
[59:31] Speaker 6: He's smiling on them. Yeah, he's giving his hands up,
[59:34] Speaker 6: giving a little autograph, taking a little picture. The man
[59:35] Speaker 6: can't do everything.
[59:37] Speaker 2: Uh, bringing out.
[59:38] Speaker 6: Didn't we sign somebody from Miami?
[59:40] Speaker 2: We signed somebody. We signed somebody from Miami with some
[59:42] Speaker 2: good money. He had a 0-0-0-1 in 18 minutes.
[59:47] Speaker 5: Oh, yeah, he was robbing the.
[59:49] Speaker 1: You was bigging him up.
[59:50] Speaker 4: You was saying, Max, Max, Max.
[59:52] Speaker 1: I was like, that's not his name. It's Gabe, man.
[59:55] Speaker 1: It's not Max.
[59:56] Speaker 4: It was three letters.
[59:56] Speaker 2: I was close.
[59:57] Speaker 1: Yeah, but there is a Max on the team, though.
[59:59] Speaker 4: It's Christy, bro. It's the other dude.
[1:00:01] Speaker 2: Gabe is for a letter.
[1:00:02] Speaker 6: Oh.
[1:00:02] Speaker 1: Oh. You got them all mixed up? That's why they're
[1:00:06] Speaker 1: playing like this.
[1:00:07] Speaker 6: All of them, you know, it was just all three-letter. Gabe, Ty,
[1:00:11] Speaker 6: all just these two, three-letter type of dudes, you know,
[1:00:14] Speaker 6: playing AAU basketball.
[1:00:16] Speaker 2: But you asked for this. We didn't ask for no
[1:00:18] Speaker 2: YMCA players. Yes, you did.
[1:00:20] Speaker 1: You accepted all of this.
[1:00:21] Speaker 4: He was like, we ain't need to make no moves.
[1:00:23] Speaker 3: In all seriousness, how worried are you about the Lakers'
[1:00:26] Speaker 3: lack of bench depth at this point in the season?
[1:00:29] Speaker 2: Can I ask you this?
[1:00:30] Speaker 3: Is it that big of a deal with seven games in?
[1:00:32] Speaker 3: We got some reserves coming back.
[1:00:34] Speaker 5: It's a problem.
[1:00:35] Speaker 3: Got some key rotational players. The fact that they're even
[1:00:37] Speaker 3: four and three without Vanderbilt and Christian Wood to me is.
[1:00:40] Speaker 2: And to be honest, it's not even... You can't even
[1:00:42] Speaker 2: do the old.
[1:00:43] Speaker 6: Typical take two starters out and put them on a
[1:00:47] Speaker 6: bench and take these two in, put them in, and,
[1:00:50] Speaker 6: you know, we pretend we have this great bench when
[1:00:52] Speaker 6: we really don't.
[1:00:56] Speaker 5: They tried that last year.
[1:00:58] Speaker 2: We don't have enough.
[1:00:59] Speaker 6: When we, like, playoffs, cool, but to get through the
[1:01:03] Speaker 6: regular season, you're going to probably need about ten players
[1:01:05] Speaker 6: right now.
[1:01:05] Speaker 2: Well, to quote Smokey's mom, make it enough. Make it enough.
[1:01:11] Speaker 5: Make it enough.
[1:01:13] Speaker 6: I mean, like, even with, like, let's say, let's go,
[1:01:16] Speaker 6: even though Milwaukee's losing, all right, when their team is full,
[1:01:23] Speaker 6: they still got a Bobby Portis coming off the bench, right?
[1:01:26] Speaker 2: They have one of those type of guys. We have
[1:01:30] Speaker 2: Dolph to connect. I mean, Philly, shit. When they starters
[1:01:33] Speaker 2: get back, look at they bench. Shit, it's... Yeah. You
[1:01:38] Speaker 2: know what I mean? Look at the bench.
[1:01:39] Speaker 6: They got so much coming off the bench that it's crazy. Like,
[1:01:43] Speaker 6: when you're talking about championship teams, you're talking about, like,
[1:01:46] Speaker 6: when Golden State, when they subbed, that bench took over.
[1:01:49] Speaker 2: When the Lakers.
[1:01:51] Speaker 5: They're not even getting shots up.
[1:01:52] Speaker 6: When the Lakers won those two championships, think about the
[1:01:55] Speaker 6: people that was coming off the bench back then.
[1:01:56] Speaker 5: They're not even getting shots on goal off the bench.
[1:01:58] Speaker 2: Huh?
[1:01:58] Speaker 5: They're not even attempting shots. Yeah, Gabe, 18 minutes, no
[1:02:03] Speaker 5: shot attempts.
[1:02:05] Speaker 2: You know why?
[1:02:06] Speaker 6: Why?
[1:02:08] Speaker 4: The offense doesn't have him in the queue. This is
[1:02:14] Speaker 4: a J.J. Redick production. Who's the stars?
[1:02:18] Speaker 5: The Lakers? Braun and AD.
[1:02:22] Speaker 4: Nobody else is starring in this show. So if you
[1:02:25] Speaker 4: ain't got nobody up next to bat when them down, everybody.
[1:02:28] Speaker 1: On the bench like, you better not shoot more than two.
[1:02:33] Speaker 4: They already got the organization where the team and the
[1:02:36] Speaker 4: plays are set for everyone to get certain actions, but
[1:02:39] Speaker 4: them actions ain't for you to thrive. The actions is
[1:02:42] Speaker 4: for them to get maximum ability out of AD and Brian.
[1:02:46] Speaker 4: So you got left with Gabe and you left with
[1:02:48] Speaker 4: all of Cam and all those guys on the outside
[1:02:52] Speaker 4: waiting for shots. And then Gabe, he was like, why
[1:02:55] Speaker 4: are you being aggressive? It's like, because we're running a play.
[1:02:59] Speaker 5: But that was kind of his role in Miami, too.
[1:03:01] Speaker 1: So I don't know why.
[1:03:02] Speaker 4: They didn't have no play. They was free willy.
[1:03:04] Speaker 1: I know, but he was. It was three game.
[1:03:06] Speaker 4: Free willy.
[1:03:06] Speaker 5: Three game. But he would catch and shoot.
[1:03:08] Speaker 2: Three game.
[1:03:09] Speaker 5: I don't understand.
[1:03:09] Speaker 4: It's three game scramble. Now we running sets. He averaged nine, eight.
[1:03:15] Speaker 4: He averaged nine.
[1:03:17] Speaker 6: He averaged eight and nine over there coming over here
[1:03:20] Speaker 6: to average three.
[1:03:23] Speaker 1: Gabe.
[1:03:23] Speaker 4: Just like Kendrick Dunn. Kendrick Nunn.
[1:03:26] Speaker 2: And you know what we're going to do? JJ, the
[1:03:30] Speaker 2: fact that you played Cam Reddish.
[1:03:35] Speaker 5: He sure did get paid off at nine points.
[1:03:37] Speaker 6: Cam Reddish, he's supposed to be a killer. Wasn't he
[1:03:40] Speaker 6: a killer?
[1:03:40] Speaker 4: He was supposed to be.
[1:03:43] Speaker 6: He was an ultra-aggressive high school player.
[1:03:46] Speaker 4: Who?
[1:03:47] Speaker 5: Cam.
[1:03:48] Speaker 2: He was giving people 40s and 50s.
[1:03:49] Speaker 4: They said he was the best one out of the class.
[1:03:52] Speaker 6: He was the best one. So how did he get
[1:03:54] Speaker 6: so docile?
[1:03:56] Speaker 5: Because they just stuck.
[1:03:58] Speaker 1: Him in a corner.
[1:03:59] Speaker 4: No.
[1:03:59] Speaker 2: Just like Ben McLemore.
[1:04:00] Speaker 4: He was insane. They were the same type of guys.
[1:04:02] Speaker 4: Once you put them over there, that's who they become.
[1:04:05] Speaker 4: And they don't know what that is.
[1:04:06] Speaker 2: Didn't the New York coach say if they trade for him,
[1:04:08] Speaker 2: he wasn't going to play him?
[1:04:10] Speaker 1: Who?
[1:04:10] Speaker 2: Was it Cam Reddish? Yeah. Yeah, like, if there was,
[1:04:14] Speaker 2: if I'm somewhat, I don't know if it's the Knicks, I.
[1:04:17] Speaker 1: Think it's the Knicks at the time.
[1:04:20] Speaker 2: If you trade for them, I'm not going to play them,
[1:04:21] Speaker 2: but something.
[1:04:22] Speaker 5: Of that nature, I'm... when he got to New York. Oh,
[1:04:26] Speaker 5: because he ain't see the.
[1:04:27] Speaker 4: Floor in New York.
[1:04:28] Speaker 2: Yeah, I think it was an.
[1:04:30] Speaker 5: It was, like, already agreed upon, like, you bring him here.
[1:04:33] Speaker 3: Yeah, it was not a fan of the Cam Reddish trade.
[1:04:35] Speaker 2: Yeah. Who was that? Thibodeau. Thibodeau?
[1:04:37] Speaker 5: Yeah.
[1:04:38] Speaker 1: Oh.
[1:04:39] Speaker 4: It was a Tibbs thing.
[1:04:40] Speaker 2: So if I'm not... It was like, if you bring him,
[1:04:42] Speaker 2: I'm not going to play him.
[1:04:43] Speaker 4: Yeah, that's weird.
[1:04:44] Speaker 1: Wow. So weird.
[1:04:44] Speaker 5: Didn't even give him a chance.
[1:04:46] Speaker 1: He did not play at all.
[1:04:48] Speaker 2: And we know he likes... Like, as of right now, man.
[1:04:51] Speaker 4: That's sabotage, bro.
[1:04:53] Speaker 5: Yes.
[1:04:53] Speaker 6: What I'm saying is with his confidence, like, we had
[1:04:55] Speaker 6: him last year, and the same thing. You're playing all
[1:04:57] Speaker 6: these minutes, and you're not attempting those shots.
[1:04:59] Speaker 2: Why are you out here?
[1:05:00] Speaker 6: That would be my question to him. I'm playing you
[1:05:04] Speaker 6: 14 minutes.
[1:05:06] Speaker 2: You have zero attempts. Why are you out here? You
[1:05:10] Speaker 2: can have zero attempts.
[1:05:11] Speaker 6: On the bench 48 minutes of this shit here. There's
[1:05:15] Speaker 6: 48 minutes on the bench, zero attempts. If I put
[1:05:18] Speaker 6: you in the game, I need you to be aggressive.
[1:05:23] Speaker 6: You might as well just play connect. He should be
[1:05:26] Speaker 6: able to connect and get Gabe, Vincent, Minnis, and Cam Reddish.
[1:05:31] Speaker 6: Two played, 14 and 18, zero attempts. Now, if they
[1:05:34] Speaker 6: was on the court at the same time, we playing three.
[1:05:36] Speaker 2: On five on the offensive end.
[1:05:39] Speaker 3: This is a problem you pointed out last season as well.
[1:05:41] Speaker 5: Cam is valuable. He's valuable on the defensive side, but
[1:05:43] Speaker 5: if you're not even attempting shots that the defense decide
[1:05:47] Speaker 5: don't matter. But he could have a positive plus minus.
[1:05:50] Speaker 2: The only one.
[1:05:51] Speaker 4: That's what, at this point, as a corner boy, he
[1:05:55] Speaker 4: just out there just to be out there because I'm
[1:05:56] Speaker 4: getting paid. But when you call my number as a coach,
[1:06:00] Speaker 4: I got to go in. And I know you playing
[1:06:02] Speaker 4: certain guys over me. I might be killing them in practice.
[1:06:05] Speaker 4: I might be doing everything I'm supposed to be doing.
[1:06:07] Speaker 4: And it just don't feel like I'm being rewarded. So
[1:06:09] Speaker 4: I'm off all of this, but I still show up.
[1:06:12] Speaker 4: And he might not be putting... Shots up on purpose. Like,
[1:06:16] Speaker 4: he literally out there not shooting on purpose.
[1:06:18] Speaker 2: Remember Luol Deng? They didn't run no place for Luol Deng. Right?
[1:06:24] Speaker 6: Luol Deng scored because he just moved. When that ball
[1:06:28] Speaker 6: was coming at him, he was already on the go.
[1:06:29] Speaker 4: He was cutting. He was slapping.
[1:06:31] Speaker 2: He always caught it on the go.
[1:06:32] Speaker 6: He always caught it on the go. Like, stop being
[1:06:36] Speaker 6: cinder blocks.
[1:06:37] Speaker 5: Right?
[1:06:38] Speaker 6: If I know my man is sitting there looking at
[1:06:41] Speaker 6: LeBron James.
[1:06:41] Speaker 2: And A.D., why am I not cutting?
[1:06:43] Speaker 4: Because I'll get in trouble.
[1:06:45] Speaker 1: By who?
[1:06:46] Speaker 2: And get a layup?
[1:06:47] Speaker 4: You're in the way. Listen, when you make that cut,
[1:06:50] Speaker 4: it's a risk. Because if I make that cut while
[1:06:53] Speaker 4: he's making that drive.
[1:06:54] Speaker 1: I'm in the way.
[1:06:56] Speaker 2: Spacing.
[1:06:57] Speaker 6: But we know AD's not going to go quick.
[1:06:59] Speaker 4: We don't know what them two doing. I got to
[1:07:01] Speaker 4: do whatever they not doing. If he over here, I
[1:07:04] Speaker 4: got to stay over here.
[1:07:05] Speaker 2: Like, let's say Embiid get the ball, right? We already know.
[1:07:08] Speaker 2: When Embiid get the ball, what he going to do?
[1:07:10] Speaker 4: He gonna pump fake.
[1:07:12] Speaker 1: Right?
[1:07:12] Speaker 2: So I have a couple seconds to go. Come back.
[1:07:16] Speaker 2: Go do his thing.
[1:07:17] Speaker 6: He's gonna play with the ball a little bit. You
[1:07:20] Speaker 6: have chances to cut and backdoor.
[1:07:23] Speaker 5: Because I've never heard Ron yell at nobody for, like, moving.
[1:07:26] Speaker 4: Well, you mean you never heard of it in the public,
[1:07:29] Speaker 4: in the media?
[1:07:29] Speaker 5: I mean, I've never heard of him yelling at people
[1:07:34] Speaker 5: for cutting.
[1:07:34] Speaker 2: Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Get your ass out the way.
[1:07:37] Speaker 5: Really?
[1:07:37] Speaker 4: Get your ass out the way, man. What you doing?
[1:07:40] Speaker 5: Just cutting?
[1:07:41] Speaker 1: Go ass out the way, man.
[1:07:42] Speaker 4: You in the way. That's what made Caruso look good
[1:07:45] Speaker 4: when he was here. Absolutely.
[1:07:46] Speaker 2: He was always moving. Backdooring and cutting got easy bugging.
[1:07:49] Speaker 1: If you don't get the ball, just keep going.
[1:07:51] Speaker 5: Then you are getting out of the way.
[1:07:52] Speaker 2: But that's when you got to open offense to do that.
[1:07:54] Speaker 2: If you got LeBron, make him move.
[1:07:55] Speaker 1: You can do this.
[1:07:56] Speaker 2: Nobody called a fucking play for him. Never. I don't
[1:07:58] Speaker 2: care if Link or Boozer posting up, D-Wheel driving.
[1:08:01] Speaker 4: But he found, inside the offense, he found ways to
[1:08:04] Speaker 4: move and when to move. Because we're running this. They
[1:08:07] Speaker 4: doing their pick and roll. I'm about to backdoor on
[1:08:09] Speaker 4: the backside. He going to lob, backdoor.
[1:08:11] Speaker 1: That's easy. Just read around.
[1:08:13] Speaker 6: But that's what I'm saying. I can't blame it on
[1:08:18] Speaker 6: the offense itself.
[1:08:19] Speaker 5: When they just stand around.
[1:08:20] Speaker 6: You've never watched any. Kerry Kittle, it's like he's gone.
[1:08:24] Speaker 6: And the play ain't for him.
[1:08:25] Speaker 1: He's going, oh, shit.
[1:08:26] Speaker 4: But you know the coach got to give you confidence.
[1:08:28] Speaker 2: No, you got to do that yourself. You got to.
[1:08:30] Speaker 4: Understand, before you do it yourself, the coach got to
[1:08:33] Speaker 4: have the freedom of movement embedded in the style. So
[1:08:39] Speaker 4: if I do break the offense, I'm not getting in
[1:08:42] Speaker 4: trouble for it.
[1:08:43] Speaker 2: But you could go back to your same.
[1:08:44] Speaker 1: You could. You could.
[1:08:46] Speaker 2: Replace yourself. Come back.
[1:08:47] Speaker 1: Replace yourself. You could. But if you out of position
[1:08:50] Speaker 1: for the play... No, the play had already been ran.
[1:08:53] Speaker 1: The play had already been ran.
[1:08:54] Speaker 2: We're talking about the breakdown, right?
[1:08:56] Speaker 1: No, just... They're doing the pick and roll.
[1:09:01] Speaker 4: I cut back door, boom, and I don't get it.
[1:09:03] Speaker 2: We play, right? Boom.
[1:09:05] Speaker 4: But in the moment of me cutting, if he going
[1:09:07] Speaker 4: into his move.
[1:09:08] Speaker 1: You didn't ran the play.
[1:09:09] Speaker 2: I don't know. Hold on. He got the ball.
[1:09:14] Speaker 4: He making his move. I'm cutting.
[1:09:16] Speaker 2: Just take Houston Fences, right?
[1:09:18] Speaker 1: Mm-hmm.
[1:09:19] Speaker 2: Fred at the top, boom, they run a little action
[1:09:21] Speaker 2: with Sangoon and Jalen Green on their side. Cam Whitmore
[1:09:25] Speaker 2: is on the weak side. They didn't run their action.
[1:09:27] Speaker 2: Now Jalen got the ball at the top. They're not
[1:09:28] Speaker 2: running out. So, as Jalen getting ready to... I'm going
[1:09:32] Speaker 2: to cut.
[1:09:32] Speaker 4: You talking about as Fred?
[1:09:34] Speaker 1: No, Whitmore. Whitmore, yes.
[1:09:36] Speaker 4: Because he's on the back side.
[1:09:38] Speaker 1: Yes.
[1:09:38] Speaker 2: So, cut.
[1:09:38] Speaker 1: So, if they don't got nothing... Replace yourself. But I'm
[1:09:41] Speaker 1: reading that.
[1:09:41] Speaker 2: I'm reading the movement.
[1:09:42] Speaker 4: That's what he's saying.
[1:09:43] Speaker 2: But they're not there.
[1:09:45] Speaker 5: They're not moving at all.
[1:09:46] Speaker 1: And I'm saying they don't got the.
[1:09:47] Speaker 4: They just stand over that motherfucker and be waiting on
[1:09:49] Speaker 4: the ball to come.
[1:09:49] Speaker 2: And the ball never come and you get mad that
[1:09:50] Speaker 2: they don't throw it to you.
[1:09:51] Speaker 5: Or then it does come and then they don't shoot it.
[1:09:53] Speaker 2: Or when it does come and you don't shoot the motherfucker.
[1:09:54] Speaker 1: Wait, wait.
[1:09:54] Speaker 4: But that's the same thing if they cut back... When
[1:09:56] Speaker 4: they finally throw it over that motherfucker, you're like... He
[1:09:58] Speaker 4: cut back door and don't get it.
[1:10:00] Speaker 2: Who's the player that used to just sit in the
[1:10:01] Speaker 2: corner with his legs just like this? Dallas. P.J.
[1:10:10] Speaker 1: Washington.
[1:10:10] Speaker 4: P.J.
[1:10:10] Speaker 2: Washington, yeah.
[1:10:11] Speaker 1: Legs all just chill like, yeah, on the block.
[1:10:14] Speaker 4: Like, no, no, you can't be like that. No, it
[1:10:17] Speaker 4: ain't coming over there.
[1:10:18] Speaker 2: No, you can't do that. You got to be athletic.
[1:10:21] Speaker 4: One, you got to.
[1:10:22] Speaker 2: My running stance, get back on D.
[1:10:23] Speaker 1: Case 12 come.
[1:10:26] Speaker 4: That's it.
[1:10:29] Speaker 2: We will see if the Lakers can get back on
[1:10:31] Speaker 2: the right track. Back on the track.
[1:10:32] Speaker 4: Fulfill the prophecy.
[1:10:33] Speaker 2: Back on the track.
[1:10:34] Speaker 3: We talked to our producers. There were reports that you
[1:10:37] Speaker 3: did say the Lakers would start 5-5. I think you
[1:10:40] Speaker 3: altered that.
[1:10:40] Speaker 2: You initially said 7-3, 8-2, but then you looked at
[1:10:42] Speaker 2: the schedule and said maybe 5-5. Thank you. I appreciate that.
[1:10:46] Speaker 2: So all I need is one more game, and I'm good?
[1:10:48] Speaker 2: Your prediction comes true.
[1:10:50] Speaker 1: Okay.
[1:10:51] Speaker 4: I'll take the 5-5.
[1:10:52] Speaker 2: Your prediction comes true. I'm 5-5. I'm going to take
[1:10:55] Speaker 2: the prediction.
[1:10:56] Speaker 3: In Memphis tonight, expect a thrilling win over the Grizzlies.
[1:10:59] Speaker 2: Appreciate y'all.
[1:11:00] Speaker 4: Okay.
[1:11:01] Speaker 2: Okay, yeah. But let's stay in the Western Conference. Real time.
[1:11:05] Speaker 1: Fat checker. Mr. Fat checker.
[1:11:07] Speaker 3: We hold each other accountable here in Gills Arena presented
[1:11:09] Speaker 3: by underdog Woo Woo.
[1:11:12] Speaker 1: He's mad.
[1:11:14] Speaker 4: Fucking foul.
[1:11:15] Speaker 1: Keep his ass to 73.
[1:11:16] Speaker 4: So I can say yeah.
[1:11:18] Speaker 2: Shot has the club out.
[1:11:20] Speaker 1: No team suck.
[1:11:21] Speaker 2: Told you. So stay in the Western Conference. Thunder are
[1:11:24] Speaker 2: one of two undefeated teams left in the league along
[1:11:26] Speaker 2: with the Cavs. With SGA currently the betting favorite to
[1:11:29] Speaker 2: win MVP this year. after second place finished last season.
[1:11:33] Speaker 2: So Thunder gained a reputation for being down for each
[1:11:35] Speaker 2: other as evidenced by their post-game interviews, which feature more
[1:11:39] Speaker 2: than a half dozen players on the squad at any
[1:11:42] Speaker 2: given point. So during a recent episode of his podcast,
[1:11:45] Speaker 2: Draymond Green had this to say about the OKC Thunder bromance.
[1:11:50] Speaker 2: But the one thing I see with the OKC team
[1:11:52] Speaker 2: that is a little alarming for me is, like, their post-game.
[1:11:56] Speaker 2: It's like... seven guys in the interview. Like, there's a
[1:12:01] Speaker 2: certain seriousness that it takes to win in this league.
[1:12:03] Speaker 2: And there's a certain fear you have to instill in
[1:12:06] Speaker 2: a team, in teams. in order to win. And I
[1:12:12] Speaker 2: just don't know if they're instilling that fear in teams
[1:12:15] Speaker 2: with all the bromance and stuff after the game. Like, bro,
[1:12:18] Speaker 2: we all the bros, it's the homies. Like, that's cool.
[1:12:21] Speaker 2: There's a time and a place for that. But after
[1:12:24] Speaker 2: every time somebody's in the interview, you got seven guys,
[1:12:27] Speaker 2: eight guys, Then you got the same seven, eight guys
[1:12:30] Speaker 2: with a picture with Josh Giddey right after they play. Like, again,
[1:12:34] Speaker 2: I'm all for having fun. Like it's an 82 game season.
[1:12:37] Speaker 2: You should have fun. But you also have to understand
[1:12:40] Speaker 2: what people are looking at you to be the team.
[1:12:44] Speaker 2: And you have to understand when your moment is. And
[1:12:48] Speaker 2: right now, I don't know if OKC understands, but their
[1:12:51] Speaker 2: moment is now. Their moment started last year. You go out,
[1:12:55] Speaker 2: you had that great regular season. Your clock starts now.
[1:12:58] Speaker 2: You're no longer the team that's just building through the draft.
[1:13:01] Speaker 2: You've arrived. It is now time for you to take
[1:13:04] Speaker 2: that next step. And I'm not sure that they quite
[1:13:08] Speaker 2: understand everything that that entails. Wow.
[1:13:14] Speaker 4: Barron, say something.
[1:13:16] Speaker 2: So when feeling yourself goes wrong.
[1:13:19] Speaker 3: So Jalen Williams, uh, I claimed he hadn't heard Draymond's
[1:13:22] Speaker 3: comments once he was told what he said.
[1:13:25] Speaker 4: He said the following.
[1:13:27] Speaker 2: I feel like it's kind of weird to have a
[1:13:29] Speaker 2: strong opinion on it. But, again, we're just so locked
[1:13:32] Speaker 2: on what we have going on here. That's just how
[1:13:34] Speaker 2: we come together as a team. Heard what Draymond had
[1:13:38] Speaker 2: to say. Is Draymond spitting or tripping?
[1:13:40] Speaker 5: Tripping.
[1:13:41] Speaker 3: Saying he's concerned with the OKC Thunder bromance and being
[1:13:44] Speaker 3: all up in the interviews and taking pictures with Josh Giddey.
[1:13:47] Speaker 1: Tripping.
[1:13:48] Speaker 2: That rope over here. Just without the death pole.
[1:13:51] Speaker 1: It's the rope.
[1:13:52] Speaker 4: It's just the rope.
[1:13:52] Speaker 5: Everybody want to be scary, Draymond.
[1:13:55] Speaker 2: Alexa, you don't agree with what Draymond said?
[1:13:57] Speaker 5: No, that was hate. He was being a hater. I
[1:13:59] Speaker 5: think he.
[1:14:01] Speaker 5: He talked about it for too long, I think. I mean,
[1:14:03] Speaker 5: he can have his little opinion and be like, I
[1:14:04] Speaker 5: don't really like that, but like... him insinuating that they're
[1:14:08] Speaker 5: not serious, they're not ready for their moment, like they're
[1:14:11] Speaker 5: not undefeated right now.
[1:14:13] Speaker 2: Draymond, four-time champion, so he has some perspective on the subject.
[1:14:17] Speaker 5: He does, but I don't, I mean, it's like they forget,
[1:14:19] Speaker 5: like they was kind of wiling and clowning a little
[1:14:21] Speaker 5: bit when they were younger winning at the beginning. Not
[1:14:24] Speaker 5: to that extent.
[1:14:25] Speaker 4: Let us have our moment.
[1:14:27] Speaker 5: My dang.
[1:14:28] Speaker 1: Bro, why you in the.
[1:14:28] Speaker 5: Y'all had y'all's time.
[1:14:30] Speaker 4: Always in the video, dancing in the video. You always
[1:14:35] Speaker 4: want to, now you want to come dancing out because
[1:14:37] Speaker 4: you don't like the way we dancing. Let us do
[1:14:39] Speaker 4: our moment the way we want to do it. We
[1:14:40] Speaker 4: want to take it to the chip the way we
[1:14:41] Speaker 4: taking it. We're going to be the first team to
[1:14:43] Speaker 4: go together in front of the camera the way you
[1:14:47] Speaker 4: don't like it every time. Now they should do it
[1:14:50] Speaker 4: even more just to piss you off because you pissing
[1:14:54] Speaker 4: me off.
[1:14:55] Speaker 3: So, Shia, are you a fan of the Thunder coming
[1:14:57] Speaker 3: together in those post-game interviews?
[1:14:59] Speaker 1: Man, they on that college shit. P.
[1:15:01] Speaker 4: King.
[1:15:01] Speaker 1: I love it. Because he's whooping ass.
[1:15:04] Speaker 4: And then he's going to call it a bromance, and
[1:15:06] Speaker 4: he's trying to, like, That's taking shots, man.
[1:15:08] Speaker 1: You still playing. You ain't no former player.
[1:15:10] Speaker 2: We over here.
[1:15:10] Speaker 4: We can't take no years back.
[1:15:12] Speaker 2: Let us back. If there's going to be some haters,
[1:15:14] Speaker 2: let them back.
[1:15:14] Speaker 4: You still out there hooping. It sound really weird that
[1:15:17] Speaker 4: you sitting over there on the other side and you
[1:15:19] Speaker 4: feel like this looking at them. When they doing their
[1:15:22] Speaker 4: press conference, we know Draymond is looking like this.
[1:15:27] Speaker 5: Look at them winning.
[1:15:28] Speaker 1: Look at them winning.
[1:15:29] Speaker 4: Look at them winning.
[1:15:30] Speaker 1: Oh, they're winning like we used to do.
[1:15:33] Speaker 4: We used to win like we ain't win like that.
[1:15:37] Speaker 4: We did it our own way. Warriors are 6-1 this season.
[1:15:40] Speaker 2: Touching me.
[1:15:42] Speaker 5: They are playing well, Warriors.
[1:15:44] Speaker 4: Yo, I see you smiling.
[1:15:45] Speaker 1: Nah.
[1:15:46] Speaker 2: It's funny. One, who cares?
[1:15:50] Speaker 1: It's local. Isn't it local TV anyway?
[1:15:52] Speaker 2: So it's not like nobody gonna see it.
[1:15:53] Speaker 3: Well, occasionally when they do get a national game, they
[1:15:56] Speaker 3: will also participate.
[1:15:57] Speaker 2: Listen, I.
[1:15:58] Speaker 5: But that's what makes it so genuine, too, because they
[1:16:01] Speaker 5: didn't do it for the national cameras. They did it
[1:16:03] Speaker 5: for their little OKC market.
[1:16:04] Speaker 2: They always prioritize the local.
[1:16:05] Speaker 5: They always do the local, and I think that means more.
[1:16:08] Speaker 6: It's smart because it's Shea who's doing it, right? After
[1:16:14] Speaker 6: every game, they want to talk to him. And he's like, no,
[1:16:16] Speaker 6: I want my whole team here, so we all feel
[1:16:19] Speaker 6: a part of it, right? When you're talking about media,
[1:16:25] Speaker 6: think about what the media did.
[1:16:26] Speaker 4: In Boston, right?
[1:16:27] Speaker 1: Or tried to do in Boston.
[1:16:30] Speaker 2: Over here.
[1:16:31] Speaker 1: Uh-huh.
[1:16:33] Speaker 2: We tried our best.
[1:16:36] Speaker 1: They just tried to do it in the locker room.
[1:16:38] Speaker 6: You can't do that with this group. You can't try
[1:16:41] Speaker 6: to split them up.
[1:16:42] Speaker 2: They're all there. So they all listening to what everything
[1:16:45] Speaker 2: is being said. It's like an iron fence around them
[1:16:51] Speaker 2: right now. And Right? You can say no one fears them.
[1:16:55] Speaker 2: I really don't think they give a fuck. Straight up.
[1:16:58] Speaker 6: Right? They were number one last year, right, doing that.
[1:17:03] Speaker 6: They're undefeated this year. So even if you're not afraid
[1:17:08] Speaker 6: of them, they're coming in and whooping ass. They're 4-0
[1:17:11] Speaker 6: in y'all building. They're coming into y'all homes, playing with
[1:17:15] Speaker 6: y'all crowd. Taking pictures with y'all fans, right? So everybody's
[1:17:21] Speaker 6: not scared of the rah-rah. They coming in with a
[1:17:23] Speaker 6: smile killing you right now.
[1:17:25] Speaker 2: You know what I mean?
[1:17:26] Speaker 4: I think a lot of us wish.
[1:17:29] Speaker 6: We had connection like that because those are the connections
[1:17:32] Speaker 6: that win championships. And the one thing that he is
[1:17:36] Speaker 6: getting wrong in his statement is it's not their time.
[1:17:40] Speaker 4: It is not their time.
[1:17:42] Speaker 2: Their clock hasn't started?
[1:17:43] Speaker 1: No, their clock hasn't started.
[1:17:45] Speaker 6: No, they just came to work a lot earlier.
[1:17:50] Speaker 4: Right?
[1:17:50] Speaker 2: They supposed to clock in at 11.
[1:17:52] Speaker 5: It's like 9.30.
[1:17:53] Speaker 1: Shit, they're at 8. It's like, yeah.
[1:17:55] Speaker 4: We've been here.
[1:17:55] Speaker 6: We taking y'all money right now.
[1:17:57] Speaker 4: This is y'all money.
[1:17:58] Speaker 6: We 22, 23, 21.
[1:18:01] Speaker 1: We eating y'all food.
[1:18:03] Speaker 4: Y'all are on the clock. Yeah, it's your time. Hey,
[1:18:05] Speaker 4: if y'all don't win, y'all getting drunk. It's your time
[1:18:08] Speaker 4: right now. Phoenix, if you don't win, it's over for y'all.
[1:18:12] Speaker 6: Lakers, if y'all don't win, it's over for us.
[1:18:15] Speaker 1: Us, we good.
[1:18:18] Speaker 6: We came to the party just a little bit early.
[1:18:20] Speaker 4: Shit, we wanted to see what.
[1:18:21] Speaker 2: Was it all about. Yes, everything that y'all, yes, absolutely.
[1:18:29] Speaker 2: You got to understand, like, Draymond not young, right? So
[1:18:36] Speaker 2: the way they did, it just, he plays the game
[1:18:39] Speaker 2: with more seriousness, right? I understand what he's saying. I
[1:18:45] Speaker 2: think the same thing when I'm watching the games, right?
[1:18:49] Speaker 4: Sure.
[1:18:50] Speaker 2: Them to ask one of you motherfuckers. Right?
[1:18:53] Speaker 1: I get it.
[1:18:54] Speaker 2: I get you want to stop by. There's nothing wrong
[1:18:56] Speaker 2: with your teammate getting celebrated. You stop by. Hey, you
[1:19:00] Speaker 2: the man. You walk your ass on through.
[1:19:02] Speaker 4: Cool.
[1:19:02] Speaker 2: Celebrate. I get it. I understand what you guys are saying. Absolutely.
[1:19:06] Speaker 2: They all want. And you're not breaking it up. And
[1:19:09] Speaker 2: I don't think they give a shit if people fear
[1:19:12] Speaker 2: them or not. They still putting foot to ass. No
[1:19:15] Speaker 2: matter what. It goes back to what I said in
[1:19:18] Speaker 2: season two when On our season two, Gears Arena. Okay. Right?
[1:19:24] Speaker 2: Is that about it? About current players that have podcasts
[1:19:29] Speaker 2: speaking on other teams.
[1:19:31] Speaker 1: You did?
[1:19:32] Speaker 2: Goes back to that, right?
[1:19:33] Speaker 1: Mm-hmm. Feel that way, dude.
[1:19:38] Speaker 6: You can feel that way, but speaking on them is, right?
[1:19:44] Speaker 2: For what? Now you sound like a hater.
[1:19:47] Speaker 4: Bulletin board material.
[1:19:48] Speaker 2: For what? They're already a good team. Now you don't
[1:19:52] Speaker 2: need no more ammunition for them to kick our ass
[1:19:55] Speaker 2: even more. We got it on the board. And the
[1:19:57] Speaker 2: statement is in quotations. So, yeah, it just goes back
[1:20:00] Speaker 2: to my thing, man. Like, speak on your team, your situation.
[1:20:04] Speaker 2: Speak on them winning. Oklahoma City got the best record
[1:20:07] Speaker 2: in the West right now.
[1:20:08] Speaker 1: They're doing well. Yeah.
[1:20:10] Speaker 2: But speaking on them as a group and how they
[1:20:13] Speaker 2: celebrate and how they interact and all that, and none
[1:20:16] Speaker 2: of your goddamn.
[1:20:17] Speaker 1: Business, honestly. It's working for them. Talk about it.
[1:20:20] Speaker 2: It's working for them. And the game's over.
[1:20:22] Speaker 5: The game is over.
[1:20:23] Speaker 2: It goes back to speaking on other people, man. Mind
[1:20:27] Speaker 2: your fucking business, man. Like, I'm just a firm believer.
[1:20:32] Speaker 2: It's a lot, trust me, it's a lot easier, man.
[1:20:36] Speaker 5: Especially when it's been positive like that.
[1:20:38] Speaker 2: Pay attention to what y'all got going on.
[1:20:40] Speaker 3: Warriors will be in Oklahoma City this Sunday.
[1:20:42] Speaker 4: Especially when you got your own shit going on. It
[1:20:47] Speaker 4: ain't like y'all undefeated.
[1:20:49] Speaker 1: And you can sit there and be like, yeah, man,
[1:20:54] Speaker 1: y'all need to do it the way we doing it.
[1:20:55] Speaker 5: And it's weird that he's doing that, especially considering the
[1:20:58] Speaker 5: way things ended for the dynasty in Golden State.
[1:21:02] Speaker 2: Yeah.
[1:21:02] Speaker 5: Y'all ended kind of weird. and now you speaking on
[1:21:05] Speaker 5: a team that's.
[1:21:06] Speaker 4: And it wasn't no bromance, and it wasn't on none
[1:21:08] Speaker 4: of that.
[1:21:08] Speaker 5: Now you looking at them like, I don't like that, but, like,
[1:21:11] Speaker 5: look how you did your bro.
[1:21:13] Speaker 2: Talk about it, Lex. Talk about it, Lex. That's the
[1:21:16] Speaker 2: only thing he getting... It's like, they not even... They
[1:21:19] Speaker 2: not even.
[1:21:20] Speaker 6: They're not even old enough yet to know how to
[1:21:24] Speaker 6: win in this NBA, right? When we're talking about, you know,
[1:21:31] Speaker 6: Golden State, y'all are 26, 7, 8 when y'all are winning.
[1:21:36] Speaker 6: These are young boys right now. The hardest thing to
[1:21:43] Speaker 6: do when you're young is good habits and learning how
[1:21:48] Speaker 6: to win. They're younger than Detroit. And we're like, are
[1:21:53] Speaker 6: they young?
[1:21:54] Speaker 2: They don't know how to.
[1:21:54] Speaker 1: Win at the end of the game. They know how
[1:21:56] Speaker 1: to win at the end of the game.
[1:21:57] Speaker 2: In a regular season.
[1:21:58] Speaker 4: I have a question.
[1:22:01] Speaker 2: If they win it this year, will we be surprised? Yeah.
[1:22:05] Speaker 2: Let's be honest. I would be.
[1:22:06] Speaker 5: I would be surprised.
[1:22:07] Speaker 2: You would?
[1:22:08] Speaker 1: I'd be surprised if they get out the West.
[1:22:11] Speaker 2: The reason I would be surprised is your star player
[1:22:14] Speaker 2: is 26.
[1:22:14] Speaker 6: That's what it's been. But your supporting cast is all 22, 23, 21. Like,
[1:22:21] Speaker 6: it's like... I got the right ingredients.
[1:22:23] Speaker 2: I know, but the... They might be young, but they
[1:22:25] Speaker 2: have the right ingredients. Well, to get to the finals, rather. Yeah. Well, let's...
[1:22:29] Speaker 2: Let me... Because Boston's still really good. Let me not... No,
[1:22:33] Speaker 2: they are. Boston's really good.
[1:22:34] Speaker 6: But it reminds me of Boston when they first got
[1:22:39] Speaker 6: to the championship.
[1:22:40] Speaker 2: They were like, We don't expect you to win.
[1:22:43] Speaker 6: Because you're going to be playing against a veteran team
[1:22:44] Speaker 6: that just gets it in the last two minutes. But
[1:22:47] Speaker 6: they do have a dude who just knows how to
[1:22:51] Speaker 6: play in the last five minutes.
[1:22:53] Speaker 2: Like, Shea ain't an erratic behavior type of guy. So
[1:22:57] Speaker 2: when you say, are you surprised?
[1:22:59] Speaker 6: I'm like, I am, but I'm not because of how
[1:23:03] Speaker 6: he plays the game.
[1:23:04] Speaker 2: That's what I'm looking at. Yeah, he's not one of
[1:23:06] Speaker 2: those like three turnovers in the last two minutes because
[1:23:09] Speaker 2: he just.
[1:23:10] Speaker 5: Yes.
[1:23:11] Speaker 2: He's going to get to the free throw line. He's
[1:23:12] Speaker 2: going to get a quality shot every possession. He plays
[1:23:15] Speaker 2: like a real veteran. I wouldn't be surprised if they
[1:23:19] Speaker 2: made it to the final. I would not be surprised
[1:23:21] Speaker 2: if they made it to the final. Thunder haven't reached
[1:23:22] Speaker 2: the final since 2012. Advanced to the second round for
[1:23:25] Speaker 2: the first time since 2016 last season.
[1:23:27] Speaker 6: The 2012, that team, right? They play more. Even that
[1:23:31] Speaker 6: team had more stars. They had more star power.
[1:23:35] Speaker 2: This team....
[1:23:37] Speaker 6: This team is a better team.
[1:23:39] Speaker 2: Yes.
[1:23:41] Speaker 6: This is a better team than the 2012 team.
[1:23:46] Speaker 2: The 2012 had better players. This is a better team.
[1:23:48] Speaker 2: With the addition of Caruso and yeah. Yeah.
[1:23:52] Speaker 4: Oh, yeah.
[1:23:53] Speaker 2: Caruso.
[1:23:53] Speaker 4: 79 first.
[1:23:54] Speaker 6: You remember, this is young James where he's trying to
[1:23:57] Speaker 6: get the year old, trying to get all those fouls.
[1:23:59] Speaker 6: You don't have guys that's going to be making mistakes
[1:24:02] Speaker 6: like that. Yeah.
[1:24:03] Speaker 3: So, obviously, you said they lacked playoff experience last year.
[1:24:06] Speaker 3: That would be their downfall. Got some of that experience
[1:24:08] Speaker 3: last year. This past postseason. See, they just played against
[1:24:11] Speaker 3: the Luka. Kane, to your point, I wouldn't be surprised
[1:24:15] Speaker 3: if this team gets out of the West or would that.
[1:24:17] Speaker 2: Be surprising to you? I wouldn't be surprised.
[1:24:18] Speaker 3: Shia, you said that that may be surprising to you,
[1:24:20] Speaker 3: that this Thunder squad can get out the West.
[1:24:23] Speaker 2: Yeah.
[1:24:24] Speaker 4: I mean, the youth is still going to be a
[1:24:27] Speaker 4: big contributor on them playing real playoff basketball and being
[1:24:31] Speaker 4: able to get past the first round, get past the
[1:24:33] Speaker 4: second round, know what it's going to take when you've
[1:24:35] Speaker 4: got to dog it out for a seven-gamer. In the semis.
[1:24:40] Speaker 2: I hear you, but so once again, more than likely,
[1:24:44] Speaker 2: they're going to be one, two in the West. Not
[1:24:46] Speaker 2: a chance. In the West, they're going to be in
[1:24:48] Speaker 2: the first one, two season at the end of the— Yeah.
[1:24:50] Speaker 2: You don't think they'll be top two in the Western season?
[1:24:52] Speaker 1: Huh?
[1:24:53] Speaker 4: They got to go through their growing pains, too. Man,
[1:24:55] Speaker 4: they're going to be in the top two. They've been
[1:24:56] Speaker 4: playing well.
[1:24:57] Speaker 2: Don't get me wrong.
[1:24:58] Speaker 4: Everybody play well at a certain point. But it's like,
[1:25:01] Speaker 4: we catching on to what y'all do.
[1:25:03] Speaker 2: Now you got to go to your counter. Only way
[1:25:06] Speaker 2: they ain't one, two in the West is if Shea
[1:25:07] Speaker 2: get hurt.
[1:25:08] Speaker 4: Nah.
[1:25:09] Speaker 2: They good.
[1:25:10] Speaker 1: Don't get me wrong, but there's a thing called being overhyped.
[1:25:14] Speaker 2: No, they going to play hoop, man. We like the
[1:25:17] Speaker 2: squad that's constructed.
[1:25:18] Speaker 3: Obviously, adding Caruso, all-defensive level player, a big pickup.
[1:25:23] Speaker 2: But they got.
[1:25:24] Speaker 3: All these draft picks, all this capital, all these assets
[1:25:26] Speaker 3: they were able to move now to still be able
[1:25:28] Speaker 3: to bring.
[1:25:28] Speaker 5: They're like sitting on a gold mine.
[1:25:30] Speaker 4: We had KD, James Harden, and Westbrook on the same team.
[1:25:35] Speaker 4: They did not get it done yet.
[1:25:36] Speaker 2: All of them was number ones.
[1:25:38] Speaker 4: They were all number ones. Never got it done.
[1:25:40] Speaker 2: Think about it.
[1:25:42] Speaker 4: Those are all number ones. Are you going to get
[1:25:44] Speaker 4: it done with less?
[1:25:45] Speaker 2: Yes.
[1:25:46] Speaker 4: Those guys were all MVPs.
[1:25:50] Speaker 6: So they were fighting on who's all number one. There
[1:25:53] Speaker 6: was no, I'm number one, you do second option, I'm
[1:25:56] Speaker 6: the third option.
[1:25:57] Speaker 2: They've established it.
[1:25:58] Speaker 4: In this situation.
[1:26:01] Speaker 1: Less is better.
[1:26:02] Speaker 4: First off and foremost, Kevin Durant was the number one option.
[1:26:06] Speaker 2: Uh-huh.
[1:26:08] Speaker 1: Russell Westbrook was the number two option. That's what we're saying.
[1:26:11] Speaker 2: That's what we're saying.
[1:26:12] Speaker 1: That's what we're saying. That's what we're saying.
[1:26:15] Speaker 2: That was clear. For us, as the fans.
[1:26:17] Speaker 3: I don't think those players believe it.
[1:26:19] Speaker 2: Did not one of them players believe what you just said?
[1:26:22] Speaker 5: They all thought they were 1A.
[1:26:24] Speaker 1: Everybody was 1A.
[1:26:25] Speaker 4: They were all 1A.
[1:26:26] Speaker 5: That's why they didn't win.
[1:26:28] Speaker 2: That's why they didn't win. That might be something y'all believe.
[1:26:31] Speaker 4: That might be something y'all believe.
[1:26:33] Speaker 1: They all thought they were 1A.
[1:26:34] Speaker 4: Huh? Because it's not a winning formula. They all thought
[1:26:37] Speaker 4: they was 1-8. It's not a winning formula.
[1:26:38] Speaker 5: Right, because they all thought they was 1-8.
[1:26:40] Speaker 4: We know what KD's team, but I don't think Westford
[1:26:43] Speaker 4: truly believes that.
[1:26:44] Speaker 2: It doesn't work like that.
[1:26:45] Speaker 4: And then you say you're going to win with less. Huh?
[1:26:49] Speaker 2: In this situation, this is better.
[1:26:52] Speaker 4: In the West?
[1:26:53] Speaker 1: Less in the West.
[1:26:54] Speaker 2: With all the assets and capital that they have, they
[1:26:57] Speaker 2: still have the potential to bring somebody in even this
[1:27:01] Speaker 2: year to help strengthen that roster. I'm going to say this.
[1:27:05] Speaker 2: And it might sound horrible. Probably is.
[1:27:11] Speaker 6: With the way their roster is right now, how good
[1:27:14] Speaker 6: those players are right now in their age, that means
[1:27:20] Speaker 6: you have the cash, the talent, and you got gold
[1:27:24] Speaker 6: backing you with those picks. If you don't win the
[1:27:28] Speaker 6: championship in the next six years, that's.
[1:27:34] Speaker 4: A problem then.
[1:27:35] Speaker 2: Oh, they're going to win one.
[1:27:36] Speaker 1: Yeah.
[1:27:37] Speaker 6: Because you have the talent right now, and they're all young.
[1:27:42] Speaker 6: So that means you're going to get better. You're going
[1:27:44] Speaker 6: to get better, and you have draft picks as leverage
[1:27:48] Speaker 6: to grab anybody you want.
[1:27:51] Speaker 2: You still have Hardenstein injured, hasn't played this year. So
[1:27:54] Speaker 2: what I'm saying is.
[1:27:54] Speaker 5: I like to go get... So you think they're going
[1:27:57] Speaker 5: to use those picks to get.
[1:27:58] Speaker 1: More and better players?
[1:27:58] Speaker 6: What I'm saying is I can use any of these
[1:28:00] Speaker 6: players right now. and some draft picks to bring in
[1:28:03] Speaker 6: whatever I want. Right?
[1:28:05] Speaker 4: So I have real gold behind me.
[1:28:08] Speaker 1: You know what I mean?
[1:28:09] Speaker 5: But how many people really want to come to OKC?
[1:28:11] Speaker 4: I'm Obama right now. I'm Obama right now.
[1:28:14] Speaker 2: I got all the money behind me.
[1:28:17] Speaker 4: I got my swag.
[1:28:18] Speaker 2: I know how to talk.
[1:28:20] Speaker 1: Right?
[1:28:22] Speaker 2: I have it all.
[1:28:22] Speaker 6: So if you don't win in the next... I'm giving
[1:28:25] Speaker 6: you about six years. If you don't win in the
[1:28:28] Speaker 6: next six years, that is horrible because... You have everything
[1:28:32] Speaker 6: you need.
[1:28:32] Speaker 5: But you don't think it's going to be hard to
[1:28:34] Speaker 5: get players to come to Oklahoma City?
[1:28:36] Speaker 2: You need experts.
[1:28:37] Speaker 4: You need assassins.
[1:28:39] Speaker 2: They're the only ones who can get Greek right now
[1:28:41] Speaker 2: without losing anything. They can get Greek right now without
[1:28:45] Speaker 2: losing any, any.
[1:28:47] Speaker 4: I can just give them picks.
[1:28:49] Speaker 6: I can just give them picks. Hey, y'all trying to reload?
[1:28:52] Speaker 2: I got this pick, this pick, this pick. There you go.
[1:28:54] Speaker 1: Give me him.
[1:28:56] Speaker 3: Hardenstein is 17 first-round picks.
[1:28:58] Speaker 1: Yeah.
[1:28:58] Speaker 6: They're the only team that can do it. Huh?
[1:29:02] Speaker 4: What's a championship team comprised of?
[1:29:06] Speaker 2: Basketball players. Usually.
[1:29:10] Speaker 5: What do you mean?
[1:29:12] Speaker 2: Good ones. A great starting five.
[1:29:14] Speaker 1: Stars.
[1:29:14] Speaker 2: Good basketball players.
[1:29:15] Speaker 1: Stars.
[1:29:15] Speaker 5: Good role players.
[1:29:16] Speaker 2: Great role players. You know their roles.
[1:29:18] Speaker 4: And experts. Assassins. Specialists. They got that.
[1:29:23] Speaker 5: Yeah, specialists. Is a role player and a specialist the
[1:29:26] Speaker 5: same thing?
[1:29:27] Speaker 2: No.
[1:29:28] Speaker 4: Tell me who the specialist is.
[1:29:29] Speaker 2: Shay. That's the star.
[1:29:31] Speaker 4: And the specialist. You only got one specialist or two specialists,
[1:29:35] Speaker 4: but it can't be the star.
[1:29:36] Speaker 1: The star is the star. Caruso is the specialist. The
[1:29:38] Speaker 1: specialist is already embedded in star.
[1:29:39] Speaker 5: Defense is the specialist.
[1:29:40] Speaker 2: He's the star.
[1:29:41] Speaker 4: So who's the specialist?
[1:29:42] Speaker 2: Outside of him.
[1:29:43] Speaker 5: Is the defense specialist a thing? A defensive specialist, is
[1:29:46] Speaker 5: that a thing?
[1:29:47] Speaker 1: It is.
[1:29:48] Speaker 5: That's Caruso.
[1:29:49] Speaker 2: You got Caruso, Lou Dort. Lou Dort?
[1:29:51] Speaker 5: Yeah.
[1:29:51] Speaker 4: Who else is the specialist? You got two defensive specialists.
[1:29:54] Speaker 1: No, you got three.
[1:29:55] Speaker 2: You got Chet.
[1:29:57] Speaker 4: Okay, so Chet's going to be a specialist. Okay, those
[1:29:59] Speaker 4: are three.
[1:30:00] Speaker 1: Defensively right now, that's what he can.
[1:30:01] Speaker 4: How old is Crusoe, like 27?
[1:30:03] Speaker 2: 30. He's the oldest player on the team.
[1:30:04] Speaker 4: Okay, so he's an old specialist vet, right?
[1:30:08] Speaker 5: He was ready for that.
[1:30:09] Speaker 2: Do you have any shooter specialists? Isaiah Joe. Knockdown shooter specialist.
[1:30:15] Speaker 2: Isaiah Joe shoots shit out that ball. Specialist. Expert.
[1:30:18] Speaker 4: 43% from three this year.
[1:30:19] Speaker 2: Yes.
[1:30:20] Speaker 4: That's what y'all depending on. Six attempts per game. He's
[1:30:22] Speaker 4: going to be considered the new specialist in the NBA.
[1:30:24] Speaker 2: For his team? Come in and get a bucket. For
[1:30:25] Speaker 2: his team?
[1:30:27] Speaker 5: In the NBA, I wouldn't say he's a specialist.
[1:30:30] Speaker 1: Like a KCP.
[1:30:31] Speaker 4: Like a KCP.
[1:30:33] Speaker 2: Yeah, that's him. Like a KCP?
[1:30:34] Speaker 5: Like a KCP. Six games is a lot.
[1:30:36] Speaker 4: Six threes?
[1:30:37] Speaker 5: I don't think. Right now, that's a lot. Six attempts.
[1:30:40] Speaker 2: If you have to share the ball.
[1:30:42] Speaker 4: So they got a star, they got one star. Second
[1:30:44] Speaker 4: most on the team behind Shea right now. They got
[1:30:47] Speaker 4: one star, they got two defensive specialists, and one shooter specialist,
[1:30:52] Speaker 4: or three defensive specialists.
[1:30:53] Speaker 3: I'm going to call it necessarily Jalen Williams, Chet. Stars
[1:30:56] Speaker 3: at this point, but very, very, very, very solid players.
[1:31:00] Speaker 1: Yeah, solid players. So comparing them to Dallas, Dallas got
[1:31:05] Speaker 1: two what?
[1:31:06] Speaker 4: Stars. Stars.
[1:31:07] Speaker 5: One specialist.
[1:31:08] Speaker 4: Two. If one of the stars don't show up for
[1:31:11] Speaker 4: OK Suit, how many stars you got left?
[1:31:14] Speaker 5: Zero.
[1:31:15] Speaker 2: Zero.
[1:31:15] Speaker 5: Half a star.
[1:31:16] Speaker 1: OK.
[1:31:16] Speaker 4: Star by commitment. One star.
[1:31:18] Speaker 1: Who did Dallas pick up?
[1:31:20] Speaker 4: Klay.
[1:31:20] Speaker 5: Klay.
[1:31:21] Speaker 1: Is he a star?
[1:31:23] Speaker 5: Yeah.
[1:31:24] Speaker 2: Huh?
[1:31:24] Speaker 5: Former star.
[1:31:25] Speaker 2: He's a star. Star. OK.
[1:31:27] Speaker 1: Three stars. We got three stars.
[1:31:29] Speaker 2: Dollar piece. 2.5 stars. P.J.
[1:31:30] Speaker 6: Washington would be considered a what?
[1:31:32] Speaker 2: Specialist. At what?
[1:31:34] Speaker 4: At what? At what?
[1:31:35] Speaker 5: I would put him in role. Role player.
[1:31:38] Speaker 2: What the hell?
[1:31:38] Speaker 1: He's a role player.
[1:31:39] Speaker 5: He ain't a special.
[1:31:40] Speaker 2: He's not a special.
[1:31:41] Speaker 5: No, no, no, no.
[1:31:43] Speaker 2: He's supposed to be, but he's not. So you mean
[1:31:45] Speaker 2: to tell, hold on. So you mean to tell me
[1:31:47] Speaker 2: PJ and Clay are the same thing? No, Clay's a star. No,
[1:31:50] Speaker 2: he's a specialist. He's a specialist.
[1:31:53] Speaker 5: On that team, he's a specialist.
[1:31:54] Speaker 1: On that team, he's a specialist. Oh, I'm sorry.
[1:31:56] Speaker 4: He was a star.
[1:31:57] Speaker 1: I didn't answer it.
[1:31:58] Speaker 5: He's a star, but on that team, he's a specialist.
[1:32:01] Speaker 2: I was letting y'all talk, but since you asked a question,
[1:32:04] Speaker 2: since you said P.J. Washington was a specialist, I disagree.
[1:32:06] Speaker 4: My point being is OKC's roster don't match up to
[1:32:10] Speaker 4: even a roster that made it to the finals. Like,
[1:32:14] Speaker 4: you don't got the ingredients yet. To surpass these guys
[1:32:18] Speaker 4: who are already embedded.
[1:32:19] Speaker 5: They're saying they're missing a star.
[1:32:21] Speaker 1: And a role player.
[1:32:23] Speaker 4: And a good specialist. Like a known specialist.
[1:32:28] Speaker 2: Why does it have to be known?
[1:32:29] Speaker 4: Because they're reliable.
[1:32:30] Speaker 2: So what did Klay shoot from three? I think Klay
[1:32:33] Speaker 2: averaged like 14 points a game this year. And what
[1:32:35] Speaker 2: did he shoot from three right now?
[1:32:36] Speaker 4: 38.
[1:32:36] Speaker 2: We'll check. One second, Kenny.
[1:32:42] Speaker 4: Got to have a reliable sniper. Okay, I'm finished.
[1:32:44] Speaker 2: Got to have a reliable rebounder.
[1:32:46] Speaker 5: I feel like now you need two reliable snipers. So
[1:32:49] Speaker 5: Clay shooting 39% from three, and Isaiah Joey shoot what?
[1:32:51] Speaker 2: 43%. I'm not a mathematician, but I think when you're
[1:32:59] Speaker 2: doing that, 43 is greater than 38, 39, right?
[1:33:01] Speaker 4: Not when you're considering who's shooting. Clay's not a test
[1:33:04] Speaker 4: for games.
[1:33:05] Speaker 1: Not when you're considering who's shooting. Okay.
[1:33:07] Speaker 4: I don't know.
[1:33:08] Speaker 1: I don't know.
[1:33:09] Speaker 4: Dude, you can't shoot shooting 50.
[1:33:11] Speaker 6: Listen, Dallas took them to the— They took Dallas to
[1:33:14] Speaker 6: six games last year while they had two stars.
[1:33:18] Speaker 2: Their Achilles heels was who? Josh Giddey last year.
[1:33:21] Speaker 4: Achilles heel. Yeah, yeah.
[1:33:23] Speaker 5: He couldn't shoot.
[1:33:24] Speaker 4: He couldn't score.
[1:33:24] Speaker 2: He couldn't shoot. He was alive.
[1:33:26] Speaker 4: He could facilitate. He could rebound. He could pass.
[1:33:28] Speaker 1: He could rebound.
[1:33:29] Speaker 4: But we don't need him to pass.
[1:33:30] Speaker 2: Why not? Because we had the ball.
[1:33:31] Speaker 6: Because our best player at this point was unstoppable.
[1:33:35] Speaker 4: That's cool, but you still need to share the ball.
[1:33:39] Speaker 2: That was Giddy's job.
[1:33:40] Speaker 6: But it became a liability in this series.
[1:33:43] Speaker 4: Yeah, in the playoffs. You just didn't know how to
[1:33:45] Speaker 4: use him as a coach.
[1:33:46] Speaker 2: Yes. So.
[1:33:48] Speaker 6: Since then, our team has gotten better. We don't have
[1:33:54] Speaker 6: that anymore. We have better players now across the board.
[1:33:58] Speaker 4: You have two defensive players. You didn't get what you
[1:34:01] Speaker 4: gave up.
[1:34:02] Speaker 2: We gave up nothing.
[1:34:04] Speaker 4: You didn't get what you gave up. You gave up
[1:34:06] Speaker 4: a passer and a rebounder, and you got a defender.
[1:34:09] Speaker 1: You already had one.
[1:34:10] Speaker 2: Defender and a shot maker.
[1:34:12] Speaker 4: And a what? Man, Giddy, man, don't make me pull
[1:34:15] Speaker 4: up Giddy's shooting percentages.
[1:34:20] Speaker 2: Don't do that, man. But in that playoff, we got
[1:34:25] Speaker 2: a center who knows how to play. They are a
[1:34:27] Speaker 2: better team than they were last year. I'm pulling it up.
[1:34:33] Speaker 2: They're a better team than they were last year.
[1:34:34] Speaker 4: They're not good enough to get past the West. I
[1:34:37] Speaker 4: don't think so at all. Get all the pairs on
[1:34:39] Speaker 4: the matchup. I'm nowhere near ready.
[1:34:41] Speaker 1: They need more.
[1:34:42] Speaker 3: Caruso last year, 41% on 4.7 attempts. This season, shooting 17%
[1:34:47] Speaker 3: on 2.6 attempts so far this season.
[1:34:49] Speaker 2: So he shot 41 last year?
[1:34:51] Speaker 1: 41 last year from three. A little slow this year,
[1:34:53] Speaker 1: picking it up. I got you, but it's- Lil' Slow?
[1:34:55] Speaker 2: He can make shit. Yeah, Lil' Slow. Some games into us.
[1:34:57] Speaker 4: Lil' Slow?
[1:34:58] Speaker 5: Yeah.
[1:34:58] Speaker 4: Y'all like just giving the excuses and making- Where did
[1:35:01] Speaker 4: Josh get his shoe from? When it fit the point,
[1:35:02] Speaker 4: when the point fit you. Where did Josh get his
[1:35:04] Speaker 4: shoe from? When the point fit.
[1:35:05] Speaker 1: Them, it's, oh, oh, it's early. Where did Josh get
[1:35:06] Speaker 1: his shoe from?
[1:35:07] Speaker 2: Oh, oh, oh, it's early. Oh, but 17 is 17,
[1:35:08] Speaker 2: all right?
[1:35:10] Speaker 1: But we're going to go with last year numbers.
[1:35:12] Speaker 4: No, former Lakers. I'm 41, though.
[1:35:14] Speaker 2: It's not 41.
[1:35:14] Speaker 1: We're doing 17 now.
[1:35:16] Speaker 2: That's trash. So where did Josh Giddey shoot from?
[1:35:19] Speaker 4: Former Lakers, 33%. Because he loved doing that shit, man.
[1:35:22] Speaker 4: Giddey shooting 44%. You see that? They be doing that
[1:35:24] Speaker 4: all the time.
[1:35:25] Speaker 2: He said last year. Okay.
[1:35:26] Speaker 1: That's weird. It's like, yo, how you? Shia, we were
[1:35:29] Speaker 1: helping you out. Giddey shooting 44%. Shia, Alex Russo, former Laker, so.
[1:35:36] Speaker 2: Just saying, man.
[1:35:36] Speaker 4: Left against his will.
[1:35:37] Speaker 2: Treat me right, man.
[1:35:38] Speaker 4: Treat me right.
[1:35:39] Speaker 2: Treat me right, man. Left against his will. You know,
[1:35:42] Speaker 2: I support you here. They're a better team, though. They're
[1:35:47] Speaker 2: a better team.
[1:35:48] Speaker 6: Like, sitting in the playoffs, he didn't do nothing last year.
[1:35:53] Speaker 2: Two assists. Here we go. Right, the assists got only
[1:35:56] Speaker 2: average two assists.
[1:35:56] Speaker 5: You're talking about what they're missing in the playoffs.
[1:35:59] Speaker 4: Nah, we ain't talking about that. If we added up
[1:36:01] Speaker 4: the numbers for Josh Giddey in Chicago right now compared
[1:36:04] Speaker 4: to Caruso right now, tell me who won the trade.
[1:36:06] Speaker 2: 8-0.
[1:36:08] Speaker 1: Tell me who won the trade.
[1:36:08] Speaker 2: 8-0.
[1:36:10] Speaker 5: I think OKC won and Josh Giddey won for himself.
[1:36:13] Speaker 4: I said with the comparisons of the numbers. 8-0.
[1:36:15] Speaker 2: Who won the trade?
[1:36:17] Speaker 4: Giddy averaged 15, 6, and 7.
[1:36:18] Speaker 2: 15, 6, and who? 15, 6, and who? 15, 7,
[1:36:18] Speaker 2: and 6.
[1:36:18] Speaker 4: 15, 7, and 6? And what is Caruso averaging?
[1:36:21] Speaker 2: It's 1, 1, 1. I always look at my phone
[1:36:22] Speaker 2: and it gives me.
[1:36:23] Speaker 4: The magic numbers. And you said who won the trade? No,
[1:36:35] Speaker 4: I know who won the trade.
[1:36:36] Speaker 2: Caruso averaging a powerful three points. Sweet. And what else?
[1:36:40] Speaker 4: Two rebounds. Two rebounds.
[1:36:44] Speaker 1: We got us a sniper. We got us a sniper.
[1:36:47] Speaker 4: Beginning of the playoffs. We got us a sniper.
[1:36:51] Speaker 2: Still getting his footing.
[1:36:52] Speaker 4: We got us a sniper shooting 17% averaging three assists.
[1:36:54] Speaker 2: Adjusting to life in Oklahoma City. Three points. Who said
[1:36:57] Speaker 2: he was a sniper?
[1:36:58] Speaker 1: Man.
[1:36:59] Speaker 4: Yeah, who said he was a sniper?
[1:37:00] Speaker 1: Who said he was a sniper?
[1:37:01] Speaker 4: Y'all said 41% he a sniper. Who said he was
[1:37:02] Speaker 4: a sniper?
[1:37:03] Speaker 2: He a shooter.
[1:37:03] Speaker 5: We said he was a special.
[1:37:04] Speaker 4: We said a defense. No, no, no. Shooter was a defense.
[1:37:07] Speaker 5: Oh, we said he was a defense.
[1:37:08] Speaker 4: No, no, no.
[1:37:08] Speaker 1: We going to clip it. Hey, we going to clip it.
[1:37:10] Speaker 5: No, it was a- We going to clip it.
[1:37:11] Speaker 2: I said he make shots.
[1:37:12] Speaker 3: Oh, no, no, no.
[1:37:12] Speaker 1: We going to clip it. No, we said- No, no, no, no.
[1:37:14] Speaker 1: Joe was the shooter.
[1:37:15] Speaker 2: I said it.
[1:37:15] Speaker 6: Joe is the sniper. I said Joe is the shooter.
[1:37:17] Speaker 4: We going to clip it.
[1:37:18] Speaker 2: Isaiah Joseph, 43%. We talk about Caruso.
[1:37:20] Speaker 5: But first of.
[1:37:22] Speaker 1: All, I go home.
[1:37:22] Speaker 4: I go home and I clip it.
[1:37:24] Speaker 1: I ain't got nothing else to say. I'm going to
[1:37:27] Speaker 1: go home and I'm going to pull up the end.
[1:37:30] Speaker 4: And I said he makes shots.
[1:37:32] Speaker 1: 41%.
[1:37:32] Speaker 2: I said he makes shots. Y'all said he shot this. Yes.
[1:37:34] Speaker 1: 41%.
[1:37:34] Speaker 2: I said he can shoot.
[1:37:35] Speaker 5: But we didn't say he was a.
[1:37:37] Speaker 4: Caruso is not even starting.
[1:37:39] Speaker 2: That's not even his replacement.
[1:37:41] Speaker 1: Caruso is not even starting.
[1:37:42] Speaker 2: Caruso comes off the bench.
[1:37:43] Speaker 1: Who got traded for who?
[1:37:45] Speaker 6: I'd rather I trade you a bench guy for your starter.
[1:37:47] Speaker 1: Who won the trade?
[1:37:49] Speaker 2: Oklahoma City. He's a bench guy here. He comes off
[1:37:54] Speaker 2: the bench. He doesn't start for us.
[1:37:55] Speaker 4: Bad trade to me.
[1:37:57] Speaker 1: No. Is it?
[1:37:58] Speaker 4: Was it a bench guy for a bench guy?
[1:37:59] Speaker 5: Yeah. Why is it a bad trade?
[1:38:01] Speaker 1: They're both doing better. And my bench guy's.
[1:38:04] Speaker 5: Averaging 15, 7, and 6.
[1:38:06] Speaker 2: No, your starter's averaging that.
[1:38:07] Speaker 4: Because my bench guy is being valued in this place
[1:38:11] Speaker 4: where he can actually benefit for the team. Play me
[1:38:14] Speaker 4: in the starters role so I can give you 15
[1:38:17] Speaker 4: and six.
[1:38:18] Speaker 2: No, we got so much talent on here. Caruso started.
[1:38:21] Speaker 2: Caruso started.
[1:38:24] Speaker 4: How much did Caruso start?
[1:38:25] Speaker 1: Like, Caruso started in Chicago, right? Where? I don't know.
[1:38:29] Speaker 1: Do this, Lexi. All right, do this.
[1:38:32] Speaker 4: Hold on.
[1:38:33] Speaker 2: Caruso was a starter.
[1:38:35] Speaker 1: Like, what are you doing?
[1:38:36] Speaker 4: Nobody said that he was a starter.
[1:38:38] Speaker 1: Yes.
[1:38:38] Speaker 5: We said he.
[1:38:39] Speaker 2: Was a defensive specialist. So anytime you want to do
[1:38:46] Speaker 2: this shit, they're just supposed to, just because you do that,
[1:38:48] Speaker 2: you right?
[1:38:48] Speaker 3: Well, let's see. Do it again. Let's see if we
[1:38:51] Speaker 3: hear the sound effect. Nah, I can't do it again.
[1:38:53] Speaker 3: Caruso was a starter.
[1:38:54] Speaker 2: I can't do it again.
[1:38:55] Speaker 4: It's an invoice. Every time I do it, it costs
[1:38:57] Speaker 4: money every time I do it.
[1:38:58] Speaker 2: It's copyright.
[1:38:59] Speaker 4: It's copyright. I save up just enough for one episode.
[1:39:02] Speaker 2: Come on, man.
[1:39:04] Speaker 4: You can have our starter.
[1:39:05] Speaker 2: You can have our starter.
[1:39:05] Speaker 4: He can replace yours. You coming off the bench over here.
[1:39:08] Speaker 2: That's how good we are. Already reached the episode quarter.
[1:39:10] Speaker 3: So we asked the chat, would you be surprised if
[1:39:12] Speaker 3: OKC won the West? 67% said no. Got to take
[1:39:19] Speaker 3: it back. But let's talk about a serious issue.
[1:39:23] Speaker 1: Hey! Hey, follow!
[1:39:25] Speaker 4: Follow!
[1:39:26] Speaker 1: Wait.
[1:39:32] Speaker 4: Gilgit Flex.
[1:39:33] Speaker 1: I agree with you.
[1:39:34] Speaker 5: I wouldn't be surprised if they come out the West.
[1:39:36] Speaker 2: Gilgit Flex.
[1:39:37] Speaker 5: But for different reasons, then.
[1:39:39] Speaker 2: Captain Deshaun.
[1:39:40] Speaker 4: Hey, hey, Paulo.
[1:39:41] Speaker 2: Deshaun gonna cuss your ass out after this show. Why?
[1:39:45] Speaker 2: Don't you ever.
[1:39:46] Speaker 4: Don't you ever give a goddamn my thong.
[1:39:48] Speaker 1: Hey, I'll let that shit.
[1:39:50] Speaker 4: I'll let that shit tickle your little stomach right now.
[1:39:53] Speaker 1: You niggas can laugh in the body bag.
[1:39:56] Speaker 4: Don't you ever.
[1:39:56] Speaker 1: All day long. Y'all can laugh in the body bag.
[1:39:59] Speaker 1: It's cool to giggle in the body bag.
[1:40:01] Speaker 2: It's cool.
[1:40:02] Speaker 4: Let it tickle your little bellies.
[1:40:03] Speaker 1: Hee, hee, hee, hee, hee.
[1:40:04] Speaker 5: The body bag's crazy.
[1:40:05] Speaker 1: Hee, hee, hee.
[1:40:06] Speaker 2: While we going in.
[1:40:07] Speaker 1: Yeah. Chat, chat. Chat, who, Chat?
[1:40:10] Speaker 4: Who, Chat?
[1:40:10] Speaker 1: Who, Chat? Hey, Chat, you saved him, Chat. Now that
[1:40:15] Speaker 1: now I got.
[1:40:15] Speaker 4: To give him a little breathing room in the body
[1:40:18] Speaker 4: bag so I already can get a little tickle tickle
[1:40:20] Speaker 4: in there. Now everybody want to laugh at the old, okay. Bet,
[1:40:24] Speaker 4: I'm on it. I can adjust to anything. He mad
[1:40:28] Speaker 4: at you, Paulo, right now.
[1:40:30] Speaker 1: So, shit.
[1:40:31] Speaker 2: Oh, me and Paulo going to talk?
[1:40:36] Speaker 1: He said, nah, nah, y'all can giggle and sniggle all
[1:40:38] Speaker 1: you want.
[1:40:39] Speaker 2: Five minutes later, yeah, Paulo, we.
[1:40:40] Speaker 1: Going to talk.
[1:40:44] Speaker 2: Taking my button home.
[1:40:47] Speaker 4: Another productive day. And Gil's Arena presented by Underdog. Woo woo.
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[1:41:18] Speaker 3: your favorite team. South's former team before he had to
[1:41:21] Speaker 3: make the move of free agency. Celtics won their NBA
[1:41:24] Speaker 3: record 18th championship last season, but apparently Noah Lyles isn't
[1:41:28] Speaker 3: the only person who thinks they shouldn't call themselves world
[1:41:31] Speaker 3: champions of the world. During a recent interview on Shane
[1:41:34] Speaker 3: Larkin's Off the Recourt, it's supposed to sound like record,
[1:41:37] Speaker 3: but recourt, show Panathinaikos, am I saying that correctly?
[1:41:41] Speaker 4: Panathinaikos.
[1:41:42] Speaker 1: Panathinaikos?
[1:41:44] Speaker 4: Panathinaikos?
[1:41:45] Speaker 1: Can I hear it in Spanish?
[1:41:46] Speaker 2: Can I have the language of origin? Just say Greece.
[1:41:49] Speaker 4: The Greek team.
[1:41:51] Speaker 2: Panathinaikos.
[1:41:53] Speaker 3: EuroLeague champion head coach Ergen Adaman had this to say, saying, quote,
[1:42:00] Speaker 3: you guys, referring to the Celtics, are not world champions.
[1:42:03] Speaker 3: You're only NBA champs. We, that Greek team I mentioned previously,
[1:42:08] Speaker 3: are the EuroLeague champions. If you want to be world champions,
[1:42:10] Speaker 3: come and play us Beat us, and then okay.
[1:42:14] Speaker 4: You'll be world champions.
[1:42:16] Speaker 5: EuroLeague, though? They're the EuroLeague. They are also not the
[1:42:21] Speaker 5: world champions, according to his.
[1:42:23] Speaker 3: Nobody say that to Panathinaikos like me. Panathinaikos defeated Real
[1:42:28] Speaker 3: Madrid for the EuroLeague championship last season, led by Kendrick
[1:42:32] Speaker 3: Nunn's 21 points. Kendrick Nunn, you remember, was on the left.
[1:42:37] Speaker 3: Not sure if he played again.
[1:42:39] Speaker 4: We remember him.
[1:42:40] Speaker 2: We were looking for him for a while.
[1:42:42] Speaker 4: Yeah.
[1:42:43] Speaker 2: Where's he at? Playing the EuroLeague.
[1:42:47] Speaker 1: Panathinaikos.
[1:42:49] Speaker 5: That alone.
[1:42:49] Speaker 2: What do you think about... What did he average last year?
[1:42:53] Speaker 4: That alone? I know it.
[1:42:56] Speaker 1: 15.
[1:42:56] Speaker 5: No shade, but it's like.
[1:42:57] Speaker 6: He averaged 15 points a game.
[1:42:59] Speaker 2: And you challenging.
[1:43:05] Speaker 2: The Boston Celtics. The Boston Celtics.
[1:43:07] Speaker 4: We're not allowed to challenge.
[1:43:08] Speaker 2: Their fifth best player is your first best.
[1:43:11] Speaker 6: If Derek White was over there, Derek White would be
[1:43:14] Speaker 6: a damn near Euro MVP.
[1:43:17] Speaker 5: But then do something about it.
[1:43:19] Speaker 2: Their second best player was on Boston. Yes.
[1:43:25] Speaker 6: Actually, he wasn't known for being on Boston because he
[1:43:28] Speaker 6: never got off the bench.
[1:43:29] Speaker 1: Okay.
[1:43:30] Speaker 6: He was in that movie with Ant-Man. Hancho, what was
[1:43:33] Speaker 6: his name? Hancho, what was his name?
[1:43:36] Speaker 2: Oh. Hernan Gomez. Oh, yeah.
[1:43:38] Speaker 4: He's the best player.
[1:43:39] Speaker 2: He's the second best player over there. He's the second.
[1:43:43] Speaker 2: Second is a stretch, Gil. A little bit lower.
[1:43:45] Speaker 1: No, no, no.
[1:43:46] Speaker 2: And now you're a league championship.
[1:43:47] Speaker 6: No, on the team. Not the game itself, the team.
[1:43:50] Speaker 6: He's the second, third best. Him.
[1:43:53] Speaker 5: Yeah.
[1:43:53] Speaker 4: Great actor.
[1:43:54] Speaker 6: Mm-hmm.
[1:43:55] Speaker 5: He said, we know.
[1:43:56] Speaker 4: Yeah, that's what they're dealing with.
[1:43:57] Speaker 2: Like, the guy.
[1:43:58] Speaker 1: It wasn't Ant-Man's movie.
[1:43:59] Speaker 5: It was his movie.
[1:44:00] Speaker 1: Ant-Man's movie.
[1:44:02] Speaker 4: Ant-Man's movie.
[1:44:02] Speaker 2: It was... It was his.
[1:44:03] Speaker 5: Movie, but you said it was Ant-Man's movie.
[1:44:06] Speaker 2: I'm just saying.
[1:44:07] Speaker 1: Ant-Man and Adam Sandler. You know, Space Jam, Anthony Davis.
[1:44:10] Speaker 4: Everybody only know Ant-Man, right?
[1:44:11] Speaker 2: I'm just saying.
[1:44:12] Speaker 4: It was his movie.
[1:44:13] Speaker 1: We know Ant-Man. You said Ant-Man movie, but, oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.
[1:44:17] Speaker 5: Oh, yeah, we know who that is.
[1:44:18] Speaker 1: We know Ant-Man.
[1:44:18] Speaker 4: The main character.
[1:44:19] Speaker 2: We didn't know him.
[1:44:21] Speaker 5: The main character of the movie.
[1:44:22] Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah.
[1:44:24] Speaker 4: What's the question again? That's where Greeks.
[1:44:26] Speaker 5: Why do they keep doing this?
[1:44:28] Speaker 2: That's where the third Greek is.
[1:44:29] Speaker 4: Why does it matter?
[1:44:30] Speaker 2: He plays on that team. Giannis, Giannis' brother, also a coach.
[1:44:32] Speaker 2: And he gets in.
[1:44:33] Speaker 1: Mm-hmm. You know.
[1:44:35] Speaker 2: He gets in the game. Wait, what was.
[1:44:38] Speaker 5: What was the... Do we know the context?
[1:44:41] Speaker 2: Giannis was at the, I think, EuroLeague championship.
[1:44:44] Speaker 5: Do we know the context of why the coach decided
[1:44:46] Speaker 5: to say that?
[1:44:48] Speaker 2: He was asked about it.
[1:44:49] Speaker 1: Not that he's on it.
[1:44:53] Speaker 4: He gets in the game.
[1:44:57] Speaker 5: Just come over here it's not just come over here then.
[1:45:00] Speaker 2: Seven game series Rashad you think they got right.
[1:45:03] Speaker 5: They talk about one game.
[1:45:05] Speaker 3: No I know I believe you said that your team
[1:45:08] Speaker 3: in Lebanon could beat the Nuggets and we said they
[1:45:09] Speaker 3: would have lost about 200 did I say that Do
[1:45:12] Speaker 3: you want to clip it? Do you want to clip it?
[1:45:15] Speaker 3: You're the media, though, dope. You're the media. What did
[1:45:18] Speaker 3: you just do to me?
[1:45:19] Speaker 2: I'm a puppet.
[1:45:19] Speaker 4: What did you just do to me?
[1:45:20] Speaker 2: I'm a puppet.
[1:45:20] Speaker 4: You just did it. Live on air. Live on air.
[1:45:23] Speaker 2: You said that.
[1:45:24] Speaker 4: I never said.
[1:45:26] Speaker 2: None of that.
[1:45:26] Speaker 4: I'm a state-sponsored puppet.
[1:45:27] Speaker 1: Everybody has a chance to win a game. No.
[1:45:32] Speaker 2: Everybody.
[1:45:33] Speaker 1: We just seen the Olympic team barely win. But they
[1:45:38] Speaker 1: still won. Barely win.
[1:45:40] Speaker 4: And they had all the best players. You're only going
[1:45:43] Speaker 4: to have two guys on this team.
[1:45:46] Speaker 1: That are the best players in.
[1:45:47] Speaker 2: The world that wouldn't even sit on the Olympic team.
[1:45:49] Speaker 2: Your league is just one game, right?
[1:45:51] Speaker 4: Boston. You got a better chance to beat Boston than
[1:45:54] Speaker 4: the Dream Team or the Olympic Team.
[1:45:57] Speaker 5: Any team.
[1:45:57] Speaker 3: The first playoffs is best of five and then the
[1:45:59] Speaker 3: final four is single elimination. Okay, that's what I'm saying.
[1:46:02] Speaker 3: But yeah, that championship game was just one game, right?
[1:46:04] Speaker 3: Did they beat Real Madrid in?
[1:46:07] Speaker 5: Oh, hell no. They're tripping.
[1:46:09] Speaker 4: It don't matter if they play one game. They play
[1:46:13] Speaker 4: 100 games.
[1:46:15] Speaker 2: Their best players were 15th men.
[1:46:20] Speaker 4: Guess what we're doing, though? This is like, you know what? Hypothetical. Wait,
[1:46:23] Speaker 4: are we playing Fever Rules? What you don't do is hypothetical.
[1:46:27] Speaker 4: This is what we'll do.
[1:46:28] Speaker 5: It matters a little bit.
[1:46:29] Speaker 4: We'll make it visible.
[1:46:30] Speaker 2: We'll make it visible. It makes a little difference.
[1:46:34] Speaker 4: What happened?
[1:46:34] Speaker 1: We're taller, more athletic.
[1:46:36] Speaker 5: Fever Rules versus NBA Rules.
[1:46:38] Speaker 2: Okay.
[1:46:39] Speaker 4: We just witnessed it the whole Olympics.
[1:46:41] Speaker 5: That's what I'm saying, though, but it's like.
[1:46:43] Speaker 2: Let the tallest guy stand right in the paint. And
[1:46:45] Speaker 2: I'm more athletic than your guys.
[1:46:47] Speaker 4: Cool.
[1:46:48] Speaker 1: I would vote NBA rules, though. That didn't work. That
[1:46:51] Speaker 1: didn't work in the Olympics.
[1:46:52] Speaker 2: We're not talking about Olympic teams.
[1:46:54] Speaker 5: But I'm just saying, if this game ever happens, it
[1:46:56] Speaker 5: has to be NBA rules.
[1:46:57] Speaker 4: The Boston Celtics versus their team. The Olympic teams on
[1:47:00] Speaker 4: the other team, they play together on the regular leagues,
[1:47:03] Speaker 4: except for the NBA guys.
[1:47:05] Speaker 2: We're bringing the Boston Celtics that won the NBA championship.
[1:47:07] Speaker 4: The international teams that we're talking about that wants to
[1:47:10] Speaker 4: challenge the Boston Celtics, they're national team players.
[1:47:13] Speaker 2: This is not the national team.
[1:47:15] Speaker 4: You're not listening to me. I'm telling you, this is
[1:47:16] Speaker 4: not the national team.
[1:47:17] Speaker 1: I know that.
[1:47:19] Speaker 4: National league players play on those league teams like that team.
[1:47:23] Speaker 2: Together.
[1:47:24] Speaker 1: Yeah. Without the NBA players.
[1:47:26] Speaker 2: Okay, the team that he mentioned. The team that he coaches.
[1:47:29] Speaker 1: The team that he coaches.
[1:47:31] Speaker 2: Bringing the team that won here.
[1:47:32] Speaker 6: Who was on the national team on that team?
[1:47:34] Speaker 2: Nobody. Zero. Doesn't matter.
[1:47:39] Speaker 4: There's not a national.
[1:47:40] Speaker 6: Because if Kendrick is your best player.
[1:47:42] Speaker 5: Doesn't matter.
[1:47:43] Speaker 4: If Kendrick isn't your best player... Doesn't matter.
[1:47:45] Speaker 2: And the honcho kid is your second best player.
[1:47:47] Speaker 4: This is a showdown.
[1:47:47] Speaker 6: That means there can't be a national.
[1:47:49] Speaker 1: Player on that team.
[1:47:50] Speaker 5: But it's funny that he's saying that when he has
[1:47:52] Speaker 5: NBA players on his team. Ex-NBA.
[1:47:54] Speaker 4: They don't have no NBA at all.
[1:47:55] Speaker 5: Well, you know what I mean, though.
[1:47:56] Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah. But, like, you need it.
[1:47:58] Speaker 4: No, we know.
[1:47:58] Speaker 1: He has American... I can make that.
[1:48:01] Speaker 6: I can make that team right now as the 15th man.
[1:48:04] Speaker 4: Have you ever heard of David and Goliath? Honcho... Don't
[1:48:10] Speaker 4: get quiet on me. Don't let me say nothing until
[1:48:13] Speaker 4: you get quiet.
[1:48:14] Speaker 1: I don't like that.
[1:48:15] Speaker 4: David and Goliath. You're always rooting for David.
[1:48:17] Speaker 1: Huh? Yes.
[1:48:18] Speaker 5: You always want David to win.
[1:48:19] Speaker 1: Who?
[1:48:20] Speaker 2: David and Goliath. Yes, we got it.
[1:48:21] Speaker 4: I was asking you.
[1:48:22] Speaker 1: Yes.
[1:48:22] Speaker 4: Okay, who's Goliath in this scenario?
[1:48:24] Speaker 5: Celtics.
[1:48:26] Speaker 4: Who wins? 12.
[1:48:27] Speaker 1: Who wins?
[1:48:28] Speaker 4: We got 12 Goliaths.
[1:48:29] Speaker 1: With David and Goliath.
[1:48:30] Speaker 4: We got 12 Goliaths.
[1:48:31] Speaker 1: Give a fuck how many Goliaths we got. In the story,
[1:48:34] Speaker 1: how many Goliaths die?
[1:48:36] Speaker 2: But is that story capped? All of them.
[1:48:38] Speaker 1: Is that story capped? There's no alive Goliath. You're dead. Dead.
[1:48:46] Speaker 4: I'm not even going to do it, so you better
[1:48:47] Speaker 4: not even push the button.
[1:48:50] Speaker 6: Push it.
[1:48:51] Speaker 4: Thank you.
[1:48:53] Speaker 2: All I'm saying is this. So did, so did, I
[1:48:58] Speaker 2: got a question. No. I have a question. Y'all got
[1:49:00] Speaker 2: questions now. Y'all got questions.
[1:49:03] Speaker 4: Everybody got questions now.
[1:49:04] Speaker 2: Yes, I have a question. I was quiet during the
[1:49:07] Speaker 2: whole debate. I just have a question.
[1:49:08] Speaker 4: I forgot what we was talking about. What were we
[1:49:10] Speaker 4: talking about? Did David Goliath play basketball?
[1:49:14] Speaker 2: With David Buster Lyons' ass in basketball.
[1:49:17] Speaker 4: I'm just kidding.
[1:49:18] Speaker 2: Listen, listen.
[1:49:18] Speaker 1: Where are they hooping?
[1:49:19] Speaker 2: Listen, listen.
[1:49:20] Speaker 4: Hey, I've been in a situation where it was just
[1:49:24] Speaker 4: me versus four other superstars.
[1:49:28] Speaker 1: This is AAU stuff.
[1:49:30] Speaker 2: I ain't talking about it.
[1:49:31] Speaker 4: But when you literally, like, stacked against you, oh, y'all
[1:49:35] Speaker 4: went to get them?
[1:49:36] Speaker 1: Bet.
[1:49:38] Speaker 4: Let me up this.
[1:49:39] Speaker 2: They don't matter. They don't have a you.
[1:49:41] Speaker 4: Don't matter.
[1:49:41] Speaker 1: It do. Don't matter.
[1:49:42] Speaker 4: It do.
[1:49:43] Speaker 1: Don't matter. Every team has a chance. This is how.
[1:49:47] Speaker 4: Bad it is.
[1:49:48] Speaker 2: What did he say?
[1:49:49] Speaker 4: You gave me a chance? Yeah, a chance to get
[1:49:50] Speaker 4: your ass.
[1:49:51] Speaker 1: Everybody got a chance.
[1:49:52] Speaker 2: I'm going to give you a chance, all right?
[1:49:53] Speaker 4: That's what they were just talking about with Patrick Mahomes
[1:49:56] Speaker 4: and Josh Allen and the new rule in the NFL.
[1:49:59] Speaker 1: Give them a chance to win.
[1:50:02] Speaker 4: Sudden death, you ain't giving me a chance to come
[1:50:03] Speaker 4: back down and score.
[1:50:05] Speaker 2: Give me a chance.
[1:50:06] Speaker 4: Give me a chance to get on the floor with you.
[1:50:10] Speaker 4: Give me a chance to get on the floor with
[1:50:14] Speaker 4: you and prove that you're the champion. That's all they're saying.
[1:50:17] Speaker 1: Give me a chance.
[1:50:18] Speaker 5: Out of all the coaches in the league, the Celtics
[1:50:21] Speaker 5: coach would be the one to be like, all right,
[1:50:22] Speaker 5: let's go.
[1:50:23] Speaker 2: Set it up.
[1:50:23] Speaker 1: He ain't scared of running.
[1:50:25] Speaker 2: Let's prove it.
[1:50:26] Speaker 5: He ain't going to do it, but if there was
[1:50:28] Speaker 5: one that would be down.
[1:50:29] Speaker 1: To do it. Let's do it. He just said it.
[1:50:31] Speaker 4: Let's knuckle up.
[1:50:32] Speaker 2: What's up?
[1:50:33] Speaker 1: Let's bring knuckling up back.
[1:50:34] Speaker 4: Hey, Boston, all you do is just send J.D. Davis.
[1:50:37] Speaker 4: You send Pritchard.
[1:50:38] Speaker 2: Pritchard going to have fucking 100. You put Hauser out there.
[1:50:42] Speaker 4: You can throw Tillman in there. You know what?
[1:50:44] Speaker 6: Go ahead and just throw Walsh in there.
[1:50:46] Speaker 4: Y'all win by 20. You see why they formed the Avengers?
[1:50:49] Speaker 4: Just go 20. Why did they form the Avengers and
[1:50:51] Speaker 4: send them over there to Paris?
[1:50:52] Speaker 1: That's not the same. Because they got their ass beat.
[1:50:54] Speaker 4: Blitzed into FIBA and they said, hey, boss, he's a
[1:50:58] Speaker 4: lot stronger than we thought.
[1:50:59] Speaker 5: No, that was a poorly- Hey, boss.
[1:51:01] Speaker 4: That's the problem.
[1:51:02] Speaker 1: Hey, boss, he's a lot stronger.
[1:51:06] Speaker 4: LeBron said, don't worry. We're going to get the crew together.
[1:51:10] Speaker 6: The problem is he thinks the national team is the
[1:51:13] Speaker 6: actual Euro championship team.
[1:51:15] Speaker 1: No, I don't.
[1:51:16] Speaker 4: I said players from the national team- Are.
[1:51:19] Speaker 6: Not on this team.
[1:51:21] Speaker 1: There's not one.
[1:51:22] Speaker 2: National player on that team.
[1:51:24] Speaker 4: Did you say Greek's brother is on the team? The
[1:51:27] Speaker 4: third one.
[1:51:28] Speaker 1: I don't give a fuck what one it is.
[1:51:30] Speaker 4: You said he's on there.
[1:51:31] Speaker 2: Is he on the national team?
[1:51:32] Speaker 6: If he made the national team, you know they didn't
[1:51:34] Speaker 6: have no chance of winning.
[1:51:36] Speaker 2: You're talking about... Pulling up the roster.
[1:51:38] Speaker 6: How you talk about Bronny James being in the NBA.
[1:51:41] Speaker 1: Man, how y'all talk about... How y'all.
[1:51:43] Speaker 4: Talk about teams supposed to just go in and win
[1:51:46] Speaker 4: because of who you are is... Man, that's weird. I
[1:51:49] Speaker 4: don't even understand that logic. Because you walk in, I'm
[1:51:53] Speaker 4: supposed to just lay down.
[1:51:54] Speaker 1: What kind of competition are y'all talking about? What kind
[1:51:59] Speaker 1: of competitors are y'all talking about?
[1:52:01] Speaker 4: I want the smoke with everybody.
[1:52:04] Speaker 6: I don't care who on your team. Everybody who went
[1:52:07] Speaker 6: up against Mike Tyson, they wanted the smoke.
[1:52:11] Speaker 1: Even the dudes that beat him.
[1:52:12] Speaker 4: You went in there, what happened?
[1:52:15] Speaker 1: I won. I was ready. What was his name?
[1:52:18] Speaker 2: Buster Douglas.
[1:52:19] Speaker 1: Jail beat him. Oh, now jail beat him. I ain't
[1:52:22] Speaker 1: knock him out, but jail beat him.
[1:52:23] Speaker 2: Jail beat him. Nah.
[1:52:25] Speaker 1: We talking about the motherfucker before jail. Come on, man.
[1:52:27] Speaker 2: Right?
[1:52:27] Speaker 1: No matter.
[1:52:27] Speaker 6: You trained for him 13 seconds, 3 seconds, 5 seconds,
[1:52:31] Speaker 6: 12 seconds.
[1:52:33] Speaker 2: That's, that's, it's not even, like.
[1:52:36] Speaker 4: He forget Mike Tyson lost before he went to jail.
[1:52:39] Speaker 4: Who you losing? Rig fight.
[1:52:44] Speaker 2: So what beat Mike Tyson?
[1:52:48] Speaker 1: The nigga who knocked him out.
[1:52:51] Speaker 4: What you mean?
[1:52:52] Speaker 1: What kind of question is this?
[1:52:53] Speaker 2: He said before the fight. He said before. Before he
[1:52:55] Speaker 2: went to jail.
[1:52:55] Speaker 1: Mike Tyson going to tell you whatever.
[1:52:57] Speaker 2: No, he said before the fight. It's documented. What's documented?
[1:53:00] Speaker 4: The knockout?
[1:53:01] Speaker 2: That is, but he didn't train before the fight.
[1:53:03] Speaker 1: That ain't got nothing to do with me. It does not.
[1:53:05] Speaker 1: What the hell is going on?
[1:53:07] Speaker 4: Hey, if the Boston Celtics don't practice before they come
[1:53:09] Speaker 4: over here and play us and we win, we got
[1:53:11] Speaker 4: an excuse?
[1:53:12] Speaker 6: They cannot practice forever. Your best player was a.
[1:53:20] Speaker 2: 15th man on our team.
[1:53:22] Speaker 6: Your second best player was a 15th man on our team.
[1:53:25] Speaker 6: The only reason he wasn't in the G League is
[1:53:27] Speaker 6: because he had a movie out.
[1:53:29] Speaker 4: That's cool.
[1:53:29] Speaker 2: But he didn't get no fucking minute.
[1:53:31] Speaker 4: We ain't got to take no personal shots.
[1:53:33] Speaker 1: He didn't get no minute. We don't have to take
[1:53:35] Speaker 1: personal shots at the Boston Celtics. We don't have to
[1:53:38] Speaker 1: do nothing personal with no player.
[1:53:39] Speaker 4: We don't need to talk down on nobody. We don't
[1:53:42] Speaker 4: need to talk about nobody's game.
[1:53:44] Speaker 1: Line it up and let's see if we can hoop, man.
[1:53:46] Speaker 1: Line it up.
[1:53:47] Speaker 2: NBA, NBA, can you please?
[1:53:49] Speaker 1: Line it up. Can you please send.
[1:53:51] Speaker 2: The G League team, send the G League.
[1:53:54] Speaker 6: Team over there so y'all can see what it really
[1:53:58] Speaker 6: looks like.
[1:53:58] Speaker 4: They already can't mess with the Euros we.
[1:54:00] Speaker 1: Got over here now. We got the Euros over here now.
[1:54:03] Speaker 6: Send the G League team over there just so y'all
[1:54:05] Speaker 6: can see.
[1:54:05] Speaker 1: What are we talking about?
[1:54:07] Speaker 6: You don't even have to send the G League champions.
[1:54:10] Speaker 4: Just send a regular G League team.
[1:54:12] Speaker 1: You got one of us on y'all team.
[1:54:14] Speaker 4: Huh? Go send Quincy out there.
[1:54:17] Speaker 2: Quincy going to have a field day over there. Quincy Oliver.
[1:54:20] Speaker 1: Huh?
[1:54:21] Speaker 6: Quincy going to, Quincy going to, what?
[1:54:25] Speaker 4: What?
[1:54:26] Speaker 6: This is what I got, huh? This is what I got?
[1:54:29] Speaker 6: This is, this is who I got? They can't even
[1:54:34] Speaker 6: make the G League team. You don't think they want
[1:54:36] Speaker 6: to be in the NBA, brother?
[1:54:38] Speaker 1: Nah, not if you're playing for the Lakers.
[1:54:40] Speaker 4: Not if you're playing for the Lakers. You saying Quincy
[1:54:44] Speaker 4: can do all that.
[1:54:44] Speaker 1: He ain't getting no take. Say it again.
[1:54:47] Speaker 4: Why am I so what?
[1:54:48] Speaker 5: Anti-American when it comes to these topics.
[1:54:50] Speaker 4: I'm very American. You know who the president is?
[1:54:52] Speaker 5: You don't want us to win.
[1:54:53] Speaker 1: I'm very American.
[1:54:54] Speaker 4: What are you talking about?
[1:54:57] Speaker 1: Very American. What is that, honcho?
[1:54:59] Speaker 4: Very American. I'm extreme American. I just don't like bullshit.
[1:55:04] Speaker 4: Shout out to the president of Underdog. I just don't
[1:55:07] Speaker 4: like the bullshit.
[1:55:07] Speaker 5: You're anti-Journey Olympics. You being anti right now?
[1:55:10] Speaker 6: Mm-mm.
[1:55:11] Speaker 4: Mm-mm. So we asked the chat... Once Captain America retires,
[1:55:14] Speaker 4: we good.
[1:55:15] Speaker 3: We asked the chat, who wins the world championship between Panathinaikos...
[1:55:20] Speaker 3: Am I saying that correctly? If it ain't 100%, I
[1:55:22] Speaker 3: don't even want to... Panathinaikos?
[1:55:24] Speaker 1: It don't even matter.
[1:55:25] Speaker 4: Panathinaikos?
[1:55:26] Speaker 2: Y'all see, we here in L.A.
[1:55:28] Speaker 5: Greek is a hard language, man.
[1:55:31] Speaker 2: Over here is Sadie. Who wins the World Championship? Panathinaikos
[1:55:36] Speaker 2: or the Boston Celtics? 84% said the Boston Celtics. I mean, 16% shot.
[1:55:40] Speaker 1: Oh, my God.
[1:55:41] Speaker 2: 16%.
[1:55:41] Speaker 4: Bro, listen.
[1:55:42] Speaker 1: Explain. And we said, 16%.
[1:55:44] Speaker 4: Is too much.
[1:55:47] Speaker 5: Yes.
[1:55:47] Speaker 4: Too much. Absolutely.
[1:55:48] Speaker 1: Because we only needed one.
[1:55:50] Speaker 4: We only needed 1%.
[1:55:51] Speaker 2: 1%.
[1:55:51] Speaker 4: Absolutely.
[1:55:53] Speaker 1: Deadass. 16% is way too much. We have more than
[1:55:57] Speaker 1: a chance. We have more than a chance.
[1:56:00] Speaker 3: More than a chance.
[1:56:03] Speaker 4: 16% to 84%.
[1:56:04] Speaker 2: I can make that team. Do you truly believe that?
[1:56:08] Speaker 1: Would we have a chance if he was on the team?
[1:56:10] Speaker 4: Would it change our chances?
[1:56:12] Speaker 1: Would it change our chances?
[1:56:13] Speaker 2: If I can make the team.
[1:56:15] Speaker 1: Would it change our chances?
[1:56:16] Speaker 2: Huh?
[1:56:17] Speaker 4: Would it change our chances if you made the team?
[1:56:21] Speaker 2: If I make the team, there's a problem.
[1:56:24] Speaker 4: So you just don't want to answer the question.
[1:56:26] Speaker 1: No, what I'm saying is... When the answer's going to
[1:56:28] Speaker 1: corner you, avoid it.
[1:56:30] Speaker 2: Do we have a chance? I'm the 15th man on
[1:56:33] Speaker 2: the team. If we add two.
[1:56:35] Speaker 4: I.
[1:56:35] Speaker 1: Can't bend my knees.
[1:56:37] Speaker 4: I can't jump. I can't run full speed. Okay?
[1:56:41] Speaker 2: All right?
[1:56:42] Speaker 4: Gil's Arena Race.
[1:56:43] Speaker 2: And I can make that team.
[1:56:45] Speaker 4: You're Gilbert Arenas. Cool. You're Gilbert Arenas. If that gets
[1:56:48] Speaker 4: me on the team, you got a problem. You're Gilbert Arenas, bro.
[1:56:51] Speaker 4: You got a problem.
[1:56:52] Speaker 1: And I know your pride.
[1:56:53] Speaker 2: That can't get me on the TV team.
[1:56:55] Speaker 1: Your pride ain't going to allow you not to kick in. Oh, no.
[1:56:59] Speaker 2: Pride. Even with your bad knees.
[1:57:00] Speaker 1: Oh, yeah. If you're even out there with bad knees alone,
[1:57:03] Speaker 1: you still Gilbert up here.
[1:57:05] Speaker 4: Pride in reality is different.
[1:57:06] Speaker 2: No, it ain't.
[1:57:07] Speaker 1: Not when you're being embarrassed. Not when it's embarrassing. Not
[1:57:10] Speaker 1: when it's embarrassing.
[1:57:11] Speaker 4: Embarrassing is me making a team. Embarrassing is you not
[1:57:15] Speaker 4: being Gilbert when you're out there.
[1:57:16] Speaker 1: That's embarrassing.
[1:57:18] Speaker 6: That's an adult league team.
[1:57:20] Speaker 1: Hey, Gil, what you doing out here?
[1:57:22] Speaker 2: That's an adult league team.
[1:57:23] Speaker 1: Bro, I thought you was Gil.
[1:57:26] Speaker 2: That's what my birth certificate said.
[1:57:27] Speaker 1: Yeah, where we at? What we doing? He's just passing
[1:57:30] Speaker 1: the ball.
[1:57:30] Speaker 2: Yeah, my mama named me that. We thought you was
[1:57:32] Speaker 2: better than that.
[1:57:32] Speaker 1: I know you can shoot that from back court still. No, no, no. Oh, man,
[1:57:35] Speaker 1: we done signed him on.
[1:57:37] Speaker 4: Yep.
[1:57:38] Speaker 2: He made our team, goddamn.
[1:57:40] Speaker 1: Because we thought he was. We in trouble. We thought
[1:57:43] Speaker 1: we could have picked a dude that can.
[1:57:45] Speaker 2: You should have. We thought we had an NBA dude.
[1:57:49] Speaker 2: Let's keep this thing moving. We're going to head over
[1:57:50] Speaker 2: to college briefly. Likely number one overall pick, Cooper Flack.
[1:57:55] Speaker 2: Made his college debut for Duke Monday. Duke will beat
[1:57:58] Speaker 2: them balls. In a game against Mavis.
[1:58:00] Speaker 4: Let's look at some Cooper Flagg highlights. They got a chance.
[1:58:03] Speaker 3: So, Flagg finished the game 18.7 rebounds, five assists, three steals,
[1:58:07] Speaker 3: and 30 minutes of action. Obviously, it wasn't AIs. super-worthy opponent,
[1:58:11] Speaker 3: but he did provide some highlights in the game. He
[1:58:13] Speaker 3: was six for 15, though, from the field in his.
[1:58:16] Speaker 4: First official college game. What you got? You know, just
[1:58:22] Speaker 4: some light work.
[1:58:23] Speaker 2: Like I said, 18.7 rebounds, five assists, three steals.
[1:58:29] Speaker 4: In 30 minutes.
[1:58:30] Speaker 3: So the Jazz are currently tied for the worst record
[1:58:33] Speaker 3: in the league with the Milwaukee Bucks, with many considering
[1:58:37] Speaker 3: Utah to be an ideal location for Flagg to start
[1:58:40] Speaker 3: his NBA career.
[1:58:41] Speaker 4: Why?
[1:58:43] Speaker 2: Makes sense.
[1:58:46] Speaker 5: You going to say why?
[1:58:49] Speaker 4: Ideal weather, climate, Park City, nearby. Is he from there?
[1:58:55] Speaker 2: He's from Maine. He's from Maine. Okay.
[1:58:57] Speaker 1: Same.
[1:58:58] Speaker 4: Taking on.
[1:58:59] Speaker 3: Took on his home last Mac to drop the 18 piece,
[1:59:02] Speaker 3: but is Cooper Flagg worth tanking for?
[1:59:04] Speaker 6: I don't believe in tanking, so he's a really good
[1:59:10] Speaker 6: basketball player, so if you're.
[1:59:13] Speaker 1: Going to do it.
[1:59:14] Speaker 4: Don't win as many games as you should.
[1:59:15] Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't. To get a chance to be in
[1:59:17] Speaker 2: the Cooper Flagg sweepstakes.
[1:59:19] Speaker 5: We want to win, yeah, but as far as the NBA.
[1:59:24] Speaker 2: We already know Frozen Envelopes will be in play.
[1:59:26] Speaker 5: Superstar like that in Utah, you're just like, I guess.
[1:59:31] Speaker 5: It's still Utah. I don't know. That's how I feel
[1:59:35] Speaker 5: about it.
[1:59:35] Speaker 2: Musty air in Salt Lake City.
[1:59:40] Speaker 6: I got to watch some more games. He had 18,
[1:59:47] Speaker 6: but he struggled.
[1:59:48] Speaker 4: Six or 15. He struggled.
[1:59:51] Speaker 1: Six or 15?
[1:59:52] Speaker 2: What kind of shots would he do? Against Mane?
[1:59:53] Speaker 1: Against Mane.
[1:59:54] Speaker 2: That's not good. What kind of shots would he take?
[1:59:56] Speaker 1: Not good.
[1:59:56] Speaker 2: Not at all. What kind of shots would he take?
[1:59:58] Speaker 2: His homeland, though, Gil. His homeland. It's Mane.
[2:00:00] Speaker 4: He's supposed to have 40.
[2:00:01] Speaker 2: It's Mane.
[2:00:01] Speaker 4: Have what you had in high school.
[2:00:02] Speaker 2: But what kind of shots was he taking on those
[2:00:05] Speaker 2: 15 shots?
[2:00:06] Speaker 5: From them highlights, they look kind of hard.
[2:00:08] Speaker 4: I don't know.
[2:00:09] Speaker 2: What kind of shots was he taking?
[2:00:10] Speaker 4: I don't know.
[2:00:11] Speaker 5: I didn't watch.
[2:00:11] Speaker 2: I don't know.
[2:00:12] Speaker 5: I'm just saying.
[2:00:12] Speaker 2: Mid-range.
[2:00:14] Speaker 6: Trying to get past people. Big couple threes. 0 for
[2:00:17] Speaker 6: 5 threes.
[2:00:18] Speaker 2: It's Mane. I get it, but it's still the same looks, though.
[2:00:22] Speaker 2: I don't care for who you playing.
[2:00:24] Speaker 4: Like that drive and dunk was supposed to be all
[2:00:26] Speaker 4: night long.
[2:00:27] Speaker 2: And you hype your freshman first game.
[2:00:31] Speaker 4: You're playing Maine. I have 28 in.
[2:00:32] Speaker 1: My first game.
[2:00:35] Speaker 2: 28 in my first game. Like, you're supposed to be
[2:00:38] Speaker 2: the number one pick, and it's Duke. My question is,
[2:00:41] Speaker 2: why is Duke playing Maine?
[2:00:44] Speaker 4: What do you mean?
[2:00:46] Speaker 1: They all play those weekends.
[2:00:48] Speaker 2: So what happened to the Gilbert Arena? So I have
[2:00:51] Speaker 2: a question for you. Uh-oh. What happened to the Gilbert
[2:00:54] Speaker 2: Arenas thought process of the fact that he got 15
[2:00:56] Speaker 2: shots up as a freshman, first game? No, I get it,
[2:00:58] Speaker 2: but there's another freshman that played well. But he got
[2:01:01] Speaker 2: 15 up, though. So where is that Gilbert for praising
[2:01:04] Speaker 2: people for shooting the ball a lot?
[2:01:06] Speaker 4: Cool.
[2:01:07] Speaker 2: But you didn't say that, though. No, I didn't say
[2:01:08] Speaker 2: he's like... You didn't say that, though. I'm just saying...
[2:01:11] Speaker 2: But everything has been negative, though. But you were trying
[2:01:13] Speaker 2: to point out that... No, I said I got to
[2:01:14] Speaker 2: watch more games because... But he got 15 shots up.
[2:01:16] Speaker 2: Because the teams he's played so far... How many minutes
[2:01:19] Speaker 2: he played? are not even D1.
[2:01:20] Speaker 4: 30 minutes.
[2:01:22] Speaker 2: So you're talking about Khan, I think, Noop or whatever
[2:01:24] Speaker 2: his name is.
[2:01:24] Speaker 1: He got a shot up every two minutes.
[2:01:25] Speaker 2: 22 points in the game. He got a shot up
[2:01:26] Speaker 2: every two minutes. He played against ASU.
[2:01:29] Speaker 1: He struggled.
[2:01:30] Speaker 2: But he got a shot up every two minutes. He
[2:01:31] Speaker 2: played against ASU.
[2:01:33] Speaker 4: He struggled.
[2:01:33] Speaker 6: A real D1 team. The other game he looked great in,
[2:01:38] Speaker 6: it was a D2 team. So that's why I said,
[2:01:41] Speaker 6: I got to watch more games if I'm going to
[2:01:43] Speaker 6: tank for it.
[2:01:44] Speaker 2: Because right now, I.
[2:01:46] Speaker 4: You're not going to take it from him just because
[2:01:47] Speaker 4: he's 19?
[2:01:47] Speaker 2: I'm not impressed. He's going to be 19? What I'm
[2:01:49] Speaker 2: saying is right now is I'm not impressed. Do you
[2:01:51] Speaker 2: have to be impressed?
[2:01:52] Speaker 1: It's just age should be just enough, right?
[2:01:53] Speaker 4: No, no, no.
[2:01:54] Speaker 2: There's some other kids that's moving.
[2:01:56] Speaker 6: What's the other kid from, is it Rutgers?
[2:02:01] Speaker 1: No.
[2:02:01] Speaker 2: Bailey? Yeah. Ace Bailey.
[2:02:04] Speaker 6: Ace Bailey, right? So there's some kids I'm looking. So
[2:02:07] Speaker 6: he is the favorite, the number one.
[2:02:09] Speaker 2: No, he's really good. He's the number one, but I
[2:02:12] Speaker 2: got to see him.
[2:02:13] Speaker 4: You're going to.
[2:02:13] Speaker 5: Throw your whole season away.
[2:02:14] Speaker 1: No, he's really good.
[2:02:15] Speaker 5: No, no, he is.
[2:02:16] Speaker 2: But if you're Utah, from the marketing standpoint.
[2:02:22] Speaker 6: I didn't really get the judgment in high school because
[2:02:25] Speaker 6: it was the USA team. His team was the USA
[2:02:30] Speaker 6: team compared to everybody else. So they just blew everybody out.
[2:02:33] Speaker 6: So I really can't evaluate him like that.
[2:02:38] Speaker 2: Well, I saw him play before the USA team in Dallas.
[2:02:41] Speaker 4: Where?
[2:02:42] Speaker 2: Against who? They were playing against Strive for Greatness. He
[2:02:46] Speaker 2: was on his main team?
[2:02:47] Speaker 5: I mean, yeah, I guess if you want him. He
[2:02:49] Speaker 5: was on his main team.
[2:02:50] Speaker 4: So was it 15U?
[2:02:51] Speaker 2: Utah. It was 16U.
[2:02:53] Speaker 6: Whatever it was at the time, he was playing in
[2:02:55] Speaker 6: whatever he was playing in.
[2:02:56] Speaker 4: It's not better than marketing right now.
[2:02:58] Speaker 2: He was playing at the highest level at the age
[2:03:00] Speaker 2: he was playing. Whatever age he was, and he dominated
[2:03:03] Speaker 2: the game. So I'm just saying.
[2:03:04] Speaker 5: Marketing is growing.
[2:03:05] Speaker 2: I saw everything I need to see in one game.
[2:03:07] Speaker 6: Yeah, that's why I said I wouldn't. Everything I've seen,
[2:03:09] Speaker 6: because even when we were, even last year, last year.
[2:03:12] Speaker 2: He didn't play 17s, he played 16s. Right? So he
[2:03:18] Speaker 2: never actually played. He played 16s.
[2:03:19] Speaker 6: So I Like, I can see, like, the skill level.
[2:03:22] Speaker 6: I just got to see what it looks like. And, like,
[2:03:25] Speaker 6: I just wait. I got to wait till he starts playing, like,
[2:03:27] Speaker 6: real teams so I can just see. Like, I know zones,
[2:03:30] Speaker 6: zones and all of that are going to kill him.
[2:03:32] Speaker 6: I just want to see if he can get to
[2:03:33] Speaker 6: his shots.
[2:03:34] Speaker 5: Oh, he's already.
[2:03:35] Speaker 4: He's tall.
[2:03:36] Speaker 2: I know he's tall as hell. Like him, even, like him, Boozer,
[2:03:40] Speaker 2: all of them.
[2:03:40] Speaker 6: I just want to see, like, what they look like
[2:03:41] Speaker 6: when they're playing against dudes their size.
[2:03:44] Speaker 2: So this is what I believe. Him going to, had
[2:03:48] Speaker 2: he not went to Duke, right?
[2:03:50] Speaker 4: Duke, right?
[2:03:51] Speaker 2: It could have been a, numbers-wise, a freshman year like
[2:04:01] Speaker 2: Michael Beasley had. Yeah, I was going to say that'd
[2:04:04] Speaker 2: be easy. And or Kevin Durant. He's that good. Like,
[2:04:08] Speaker 2: I believe he's that good right now. That he could
[2:04:10] Speaker 2: have went somewhere and put up those numbers. You know
[2:04:14] Speaker 2: why he didn't? Just because he wanted to go to Duke.
[2:04:17] Speaker 4: Played it safe. Played it safe. Duke is the safest
[2:04:21] Speaker 4: bet for any recruit that's good, top five, top three,
[2:04:26] Speaker 4: that's being questioned on whether you're ready to compete with
[2:04:29] Speaker 4: the other guys in your class.
[2:04:31] Speaker 1: All the time, you go to Duke. They're in Kentucky, so.
[2:04:34] Speaker 2: Yeah. Because you don't, because you used to be in Kentucky.
[2:04:36] Speaker 1: You got backup.
[2:04:37] Speaker 2: Used to be Kentucky. Used to be Kentucky. Now it's
[2:04:39] Speaker 2: going to be Arkansas.
[2:04:40] Speaker 4: It used to be UConn, too.
[2:04:41] Speaker 1: Now it's going to be Arkansas.
[2:04:43] Speaker 4: Now it's going to be Arkansas for real?
[2:04:44] Speaker 5: Yeah, they are good.
[2:04:45] Speaker 4: You safe.
[2:04:45] Speaker 5: You safe.
[2:04:46] Speaker 2: You don't got to.
[2:04:47] Speaker 5: Yeah, they do have money.
[2:04:48] Speaker 4: You don't got to overperform.
[2:04:49] Speaker 1: Oh, I'm not that bitch.
[2:04:51] Speaker 4: Tatum, you look at all the Duke guys that went.
[2:04:53] Speaker 6: One and done. But they were balling, though. Like, you
[2:04:56] Speaker 6: can see.
[2:04:57] Speaker 2: Go back and watch Zion.
[2:04:58] Speaker 4: Zion had highlights.
[2:05:00] Speaker 5: Yeah.
[2:05:01] Speaker 4: He wasn't balling like that.
[2:05:03] Speaker 1: He struggled, too. He struggled in big games, too.
[2:05:08] Speaker 4: He struggled, but he had highlights that make you look
[2:05:11] Speaker 4: at it like, yo, he's out there doing that.
[2:05:13] Speaker 5: But is it really safe? Because when you go to Duke,
[2:05:16] Speaker 5: there's still an expectation to win.
[2:05:18] Speaker 4: Okay, that's how safe it is.
[2:05:19] Speaker 5: But when you go to another school that no one
[2:05:21] Speaker 5: expects to win, but you hooping, people are like, oh, great,
[2:05:24] Speaker 5: he got numbers.
[2:05:25] Speaker 4: Kyrie played two games.
[2:05:27] Speaker 5: But when you go to Duke, there's a winning expectation.
[2:05:30] Speaker 2: But if you come in with the hype and you
[2:05:33] Speaker 2: go to college and you average 25 and 12... Mm-hmm.
[2:05:37] Speaker 2: You didn't lose anything by not going to Duke. Nothing.
[2:05:40] Speaker 1: Game.
[2:05:41] Speaker 2: Yeah.
[2:05:41] Speaker 4: Because you would have never done that.
[2:05:42] Speaker 5: So that's what I'm saying. So why is Duke the safe?
[2:05:44] Speaker 2: Because it's the Duke. Regardless of what I do. Regardless
[2:05:47] Speaker 2: of what I do.
[2:05:48] Speaker 5: If you go put up numbers at Duke and you
[2:05:49] Speaker 5: lose a lot of games, people are.
[2:05:51] Speaker 4: Going to be like.
[2:05:51] Speaker 1: You're going to get drafted.
[2:05:52] Speaker 5: You're going to get drafted, obviously.
[2:05:54] Speaker 1: How many games?
[2:05:55] Speaker 2: I have a question for you. How many games did
[2:05:57] Speaker 2: Kyrie Irving play?
[2:05:58] Speaker 1: Two.
[2:05:58] Speaker 5: Yeah, not a lot.
[2:05:59] Speaker 2: And what pick was he?
[2:06:00] Speaker 5: Damn near.
[2:06:01] Speaker 1: One.
[2:06:01] Speaker 4: And he came in as the number one high school player.
[2:06:03] Speaker 4: And he came in.
[2:06:05] Speaker 1: But that was so long ago.
[2:06:07] Speaker 4: That's the standard for Duke. That's why he picked Duke.
[2:06:09] Speaker 4: Doesn't matter.
[2:06:10] Speaker 5: Right, but I feel like the.
[2:06:11] Speaker 1: Jay Williams.
[2:06:12] Speaker 2: Kyrie played 11 games at Duke.
[2:06:13] Speaker 4: Jay Williams.
[2:06:14] Speaker 2: That's one.
[2:06:15] Speaker 4: What is, what is, no. That's one. Okay, what is,
[2:06:17] Speaker 4: what is. One and one. One and one.
[2:06:19] Speaker 6: What, like, for him to like, okay, he's definitely number one.
[2:06:25] Speaker 6: What does that look like, just being at Duke itself
[2:06:27] Speaker 6: for him?
[2:06:28] Speaker 2: Saying that you are the number one?
[2:06:30] Speaker 4: Does it matter?
[2:06:31] Speaker 6: If he averaged like 15 and 8, that's fine.
[2:06:34] Speaker 5: He got to win.
[2:06:36] Speaker 4: Anything lower than that? Nah, 15 and 8 is cool
[2:06:39] Speaker 4: for him, but it's still underpowered. Make it to the
[2:06:43] Speaker 4: tournament and lose.
[2:06:45] Speaker 2: In the first round.
[2:06:45] Speaker 1: Nobody got shit to say.
[2:06:47] Speaker 4: What I'm saying is if he.
[2:06:49] Speaker 5: Let's say you're the number.
[2:06:50] Speaker 6: One pick and you averaged 15 and 8 right with Duke.
[2:06:56] Speaker 6: And then you got the Bailey kid at Rutgers averaging
[2:06:58] Speaker 6: damn near 25.
[2:06:59] Speaker 4: He picking him first. You think he's picking Cooper? It
[2:07:02] Speaker 4: depends who gets the pick. Let's just say Utah. It
[2:07:04] Speaker 4: all depends on who gets the pick. Because if he's.
[2:07:06] Speaker 6: Averaging 15-8... Wait, so he's not a pick that whoever
[2:07:09] Speaker 6: gets it is picking him?
[2:07:10] Speaker 2: I just, you can't, because what if.
[2:07:13] Speaker 2: You know, like when Zion's coming, it don't give a
[2:07:16] Speaker 2: fuck who's the.
[2:07:16] Speaker 1: Yeah, we don't care. We don't care what his numbers
[2:07:19] Speaker 1: are either. We don't care what his numbers are. If
[2:07:20] Speaker 1: you're going on that, I think he is like that.
[2:07:22] Speaker 1: I think he's nice like that, though.
[2:07:24] Speaker 6: I just want to, I got to, I got to,
[2:07:27] Speaker 6: and just every time I see him, I miss it.
[2:07:31] Speaker 2: Well, this is what I heard.
[2:07:33] Speaker 4: I heard this. I heard in high school he was
[2:07:35] Speaker 4: playing down. I said he didn't play 17. And that
[2:07:39] Speaker 4: he looked good when he played down.
[2:07:43] Speaker 5: Like down in age?
[2:07:46] Speaker 4: I don't know how accurate that is, but that's what
[2:07:48] Speaker 4: I was getting at.
[2:07:49] Speaker 5: I saw him play in person one time in Vegas
[2:07:51] Speaker 5: during the season.
[2:07:53] Speaker 4: Like 13, 13. There's some age questions.
[2:07:56] Speaker 1: You could tell how talented he was.
[2:07:57] Speaker 4: No, but what I'm saying is like.
[2:07:58] Speaker 5: He looked bored.
[2:07:59] Speaker 1: Yes.
[2:08:00] Speaker 2: That's how I get Bobo.
[2:08:01] Speaker 6: Like, Coa P, that's in his class, they played 17s.
[2:08:05] Speaker 1: No.
[2:08:06] Speaker 2: He played 16s.
[2:08:08] Speaker 5: So is Cooper Flagg young? Did he reclass or something?
[2:08:12] Speaker 2: Bobo was bored in high school.
[2:08:14] Speaker 5: I said I saw Cooper Flagg play when I was
[2:08:16] Speaker 5: in Vegas for in-season. And I was like, It was
[2:08:19] Speaker 5: just one game, obviously. I didn't look at him.
[2:08:22] Speaker 4: And be like, oh, he's overhyped. Cooper looked bored when
[2:08:25] Speaker 4: he was out there.
[2:08:27] Speaker 5: He just looked bored out there.
[2:08:28] Speaker 4: That's why I said it's so hard. It's just so hard.
[2:08:31] Speaker 6: It's so hard to evaluate him at a certain level
[2:08:34] Speaker 6: because if one, he's bigger than everyone, right? So you
[2:08:38] Speaker 6: have to take that so it becomes boring.
[2:08:41] Speaker 4: That's why I said I got to see one scene.
[2:08:42] Speaker 1: I dig it.
[2:08:43] Speaker 2: I know why you're saying what you're saying. I definitely
[2:08:45] Speaker 2: want to see more, but I think you can play.
[2:08:47] Speaker 4: You have to compare him with Paulo right now. Paulo Banchero,
[2:08:51] Speaker 4: when he was at Duke, They have the same.
[2:08:53] Speaker 1: Sure was it.
[2:08:54] Speaker 4: They are the same guys. But Paolo had more... How
[2:08:58] Speaker 4: did he look at... He was nice at Duke, though.
[2:09:02] Speaker 4: Paolo was nice at Duke. Paolo, I think he averaged 19, 18, 19.
[2:09:05] Speaker 1: He can get there.
[2:09:06] Speaker 2: Got the Final Four. Yeah, and he took him there.
[2:09:09] Speaker 2: He took him, yeah.
[2:09:10] Speaker 4: I like Paolo.
[2:09:10] Speaker 2: He's good, man.
[2:09:11] Speaker 6: I was just wondering, like, for someone that's the number
[2:09:15] Speaker 6: one and he's been number one, him going to Duke,
[2:09:18] Speaker 6: what does he need to be to keep that?
[2:09:20] Speaker 4: 15-8, like you said.
[2:09:21] Speaker 2: It's decided.
[2:09:22] Speaker 6: Or just do some shit that just makes him just look.
[2:09:24] Speaker 2: Highlight.
[2:09:25] Speaker 4: That's what I'm saying.
[2:09:26] Speaker 6: Like, if they're zoning him.
[2:09:28] Speaker 1: Up all the time, I can't really win.
[2:09:30] Speaker 4: Just show you haven't died yet.
[2:09:32] Speaker 5: I'm not a national championship.
[2:09:34] Speaker 4: Just show some dunking and.
[2:09:36] Speaker 5: Shoot the three balls.
[2:09:38] Speaker 2: Shoot a good number from three. At the next level,
[2:09:42] Speaker 2: he's like Paulo, 3-4 type? Those types of... So it'd
[2:09:44] Speaker 2: be hard to really stand out at Duke.
[2:09:51] Speaker 6: Yeah, because they got good players, all good players around.
[2:09:54] Speaker 4: That's how it was in the ACC. Like, if you
[2:09:57] Speaker 4: was good and you went to the ACC, you're risking
[2:09:59] Speaker 4: being the only guy on your team that's going to be.
[2:10:01] Speaker 4: It's always somebody else that's good. I think Will Solomon
[2:10:04] Speaker 4: was the only guy. Like, he went to Clemson. You
[2:10:07] Speaker 4: go to Clemson, you can get off until they started
[2:10:09] Speaker 4: recruiting better players, and then it's tough. So Duke is
[2:10:11] Speaker 4: always a safe place because they got the number one recruits.
[2:10:15] Speaker 4: You ain't got to worry about doing nothing. And if
[2:10:17] Speaker 4: y'all lose, it's really not on y'all. It's on Coach K.
[2:10:20] Speaker 4: Back then, it was on Coach K, but you lost.
[2:10:23] Speaker 4: He didn't know how to coach the Stars. You got
[2:10:25] Speaker 4: to coach the Stars, right.
[2:10:28] Speaker 6: If I'm him and Utah is the number one pick,
[2:10:34] Speaker 6: I need the Jason.
[2:10:37] Speaker 2: Tatum as your.
[2:10:37] Speaker 4: I don't know if I want to be the number
[2:10:39] Speaker 4: one pick. Because you don't want to go to Utah?
[2:10:45] Speaker 5: Who could have the.
[2:10:46] Speaker 1: What are the top three?
[2:10:49] Speaker 2: I don't want to be.
[2:10:51] Speaker 6: If I'm supposed to be the next thing, I don't
[2:10:54] Speaker 6: know if I want to be in Utah as my brand.
[2:10:58] Speaker 2: Good for your brand.
[2:10:59] Speaker 4: You don't even think that favors him for his mistakes?
[2:11:02] Speaker 1: If he's... Time frame, timetable.
[2:11:04] Speaker 4: Remember, Gordon... Gordon Hayward?
[2:11:06] Speaker 2: I don't... Right now it's Jazz, Pace, Bucks, Sixers, or
[2:11:09] Speaker 2: the three bottle fitters. I see it.
[2:11:12] Speaker 4: No, no, no, I know.
[2:11:13] Speaker 1: I know. They don't know what you're going to say.
[2:11:18] Speaker 4: It's a puppy party. It's all white.
[2:11:20] Speaker 2: I get it. It's all white. No, no, Ruben.
[2:11:22] Speaker 4: Is it Ruben?
[2:11:23] Speaker 7: Both.
[2:11:23] Speaker 4: All white party?
[2:11:25] Speaker 2: I get it. It's all white.
[2:11:27] Speaker 4: Same party, different house.
[2:11:28] Speaker 1: Same party, different house.
[2:11:29] Speaker 2: It will benefit him financially. In a lot of ways,
[2:11:34] Speaker 2: to be in Utah, to be a very, very good
[2:11:38] Speaker 2: American-born white basketball player.
[2:11:40] Speaker 4: From Maine. Utah?
[2:11:41] Speaker 2: From Maine.
[2:11:42] Speaker 5: That's what I'm saying. If there is going to be
[2:11:44] Speaker 5: a star.
[2:11:44] Speaker 1: Boston?
[2:11:45] Speaker 5: No, if there's going to be a star in Utah finally,
[2:11:48] Speaker 5: it probably.
[2:11:48] Speaker 2: Will be him.
[2:11:49] Speaker 4: It will be him.
[2:11:49] Speaker 2: I'm just saying.
[2:11:50] Speaker 1: Since John stopped it.
[2:11:51] Speaker 2: If I want to be white, I want to be
[2:11:52] Speaker 2: white in Boston.
[2:11:53] Speaker 4: Since John stopped it?
[2:11:54] Speaker 2: I just said I want to be white in a
[2:11:55] Speaker 2: big white market. I'm with you, but... You don't think
[2:11:58] Speaker 2: that's a big white market? Not as big as Boston.
[2:12:01] Speaker 2: You got a lot of money out there, man.
[2:12:02] Speaker 5: Not as big as Boston.
[2:12:03] Speaker 4: Boston is a city.
[2:12:04] Speaker 2: I'm saying, dude, if they have... What is Utah? If
[2:12:07] Speaker 2: they're fortunate enough to get the number one pick, if
[2:12:09] Speaker 2: the Utah guys get the number one pick.
[2:12:12] Speaker 2: I'm just saying, it's... Wouldn't be a bad thing for
[2:12:16] Speaker 2: neither party.
[2:12:17] Speaker 5: Who has more people than you?
[2:12:18] Speaker 2: We've played, listen. I mean, they did.
[2:12:20] Speaker 4: Pump up Gordon. They did pump up Gordon Hayward.
[2:12:22] Speaker 1: Yo, we're speaking from experience.
[2:12:24] Speaker 4: I'm speaking of playing in Utah.
[2:12:26] Speaker 1: Gordon Hayward.
[2:12:27] Speaker 5: I feel like Boston got more people than the whole state.
[2:12:29] Speaker 2: Looking in the stands and just a lot of people
[2:12:32] Speaker 2: that look like me in the stands in Utah.
[2:12:34] Speaker 4: Let's stay in college real quick. Look it up.
[2:12:36] Speaker 3: Staying in college real quick, got to talk about an
[2:12:37] Speaker 3: unfortunate event that happened on Monday. Sixth-ranked Gonzaga opened their
[2:12:40] Speaker 3: season with a 38-point win.
[2:12:42] Speaker 4: Over eighth-ranked Baylor.
[2:12:43] Speaker 5: Don't kill that poor little boy.
[2:12:44] Speaker 2: Largest blowout win any team has earned over a top-ten
[2:12:48] Speaker 2: opponent in the history of the AP poll. Why would
[2:12:51] Speaker 2: they do that?
[2:12:52] Speaker 3: Gonzaga had the game comfortably secured with a few minutes remaining.
[2:12:56] Speaker 3: Mark Few subbed in his son, redshirt junior Joe Few,
[2:13:01] Speaker 3: and then this happened.
[2:13:02] Speaker 2: Watch your head. See, Joe been around the game long
[2:13:04] Speaker 2: enough where he should have got his little ass out
[2:13:05] Speaker 2: the way.
[2:13:05] Speaker 3: After Gonzaga turned over us. Few tried to jump with
[2:13:11] Speaker 3: freshman star Vijay Edgecombe for some reason. Proceeded to get
[2:13:16] Speaker 3: his life dunked all over. He didn't have a smile
[2:13:18] Speaker 3: on his face. He didn't have a smile on his face.
[2:13:20] Speaker 4: Oh, my goodness gracious.
[2:13:22] Speaker 2: He wanted to have fun.
[2:13:24] Speaker 5: That's not fun.
[2:13:25] Speaker 2: Yeah, that was fun.
[2:13:26] Speaker 1: You ain't see him smiling.
[2:13:27] Speaker 4: He was like, woo!
[2:13:27] Speaker 1: He had to smile. He said, let's do it again.
[2:13:30] Speaker 4: Yeah, let's do it again.
[2:13:32] Speaker 5: That was a choice.
[2:13:33] Speaker 4: Run it again.
[2:13:33] Speaker 3: I know LeBron would never put Brownie in that situation.
[2:13:35] Speaker 3: That's neither here nor there. But thoughts and prayers with
[2:13:37] Speaker 3: the few family at this time.
[2:13:39] Speaker 6: I just know someone wasn't watching layup lines.
[2:13:44] Speaker 2: Someone wasn't watching Leia Blanca. This is a.
[2:13:47] Speaker 6: Freshman from the Bahamas who's known for jumping over people.
[2:13:53] Speaker 2: That means you're going to see all of that.
[2:13:56] Speaker 4: All of it. In the layup line, when the.
[2:14:00] Speaker 6: Crowd was saying, ooh, everybody know to do this, right?
[2:14:06] Speaker 1: Not you, huh?
[2:14:09] Speaker 6: So when you seen that dark just coming down the lane,
[2:14:13] Speaker 6: he's a coach's son.
[2:14:14] Speaker 2: That's the fucked up part about it. He's been to
[2:14:17] Speaker 2: USA practices. He's a junior. He's not a freshman.
[2:14:21] Speaker 1: Oh, damn.
[2:14:22] Speaker 2: He didn't seen a lot of basketball to know to
[2:14:24] Speaker 2: get his ass out of the way. So therefore.
[2:14:28] Speaker 4: Good for him. Minding that man business. Watch the head.
[2:14:33] Speaker 6: Well, you said it, but that is the coach's son.
[2:14:36] Speaker 1: Yes. Which means your ass.
[2:14:39] Speaker 6: Supposed to either take a charge, be in the right position,
[2:14:44] Speaker 6: or jump. That is your job as the coach's son.
[2:14:49] Speaker 2: One of the easy jump over you.
[2:14:50] Speaker 1: God damn it. Jump is like seven on the list.
[2:14:52] Speaker 2: Yeah, it is.
[2:14:54] Speaker 1: You don't have the.
[2:14:55] Speaker 2: Jump is the last thing on the list of what
[2:14:57] Speaker 2: a coach is.
[2:14:57] Speaker 4: Going to do in that moment.
[2:14:58] Speaker 2: And you see how he jumped, right?
[2:15:00] Speaker 6: What I'm saying is, he's not allowed to do what
[2:15:02] Speaker 6: we would have did.
[2:15:03] Speaker 2: Run through the plays.
[2:15:05] Speaker 4: Run through it.
[2:15:06] Speaker 6: Try to go for the steal, like, I ain't in there.
[2:15:08] Speaker 6: You were supposed to be in that picture, goddammit. 1,000%.
[2:15:12] Speaker 2: Just for being a son. Damn. Lisa had a smile
[2:15:16] Speaker 2: on his face.
[2:15:16] Speaker 6: Hey, that's the best thing that ever happened to him
[2:15:18] Speaker 6: in college basketball right now.
[2:15:19] Speaker 2: That was me.
[2:15:20] Speaker 4: The reason I don't play no more. This picture right here.
[2:15:24] Speaker 4: This is how I went into insurance, baby.
[2:15:27] Speaker 6: So, picture right here. Yeah, that's like when Brandon Knight
[2:15:33] Speaker 6: got dunked on.
[2:15:34] Speaker 5: Huh?
[2:15:34] Speaker 1: Mm-hmm. At least they didn't call a file.
[2:15:37] Speaker 2: Why'd he jump?
[2:15:38] Speaker 4: At least they didn't call a file. That would have
[2:15:39] Speaker 4: been nasty. He would have stood over him a lot longer.
[2:15:42] Speaker 2: Probably just a bad one of those. It would have
[2:15:44] Speaker 2: been an N-1 to play stops. See, the refs did
[2:15:47] Speaker 2: him a favor by not calling in. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
[2:15:49] Speaker 2: They did him a favor by not stopping the game.
[2:15:51] Speaker 4: They had to replay it.
[2:15:51] Speaker 2: They had to replay it.
[2:15:52] Speaker 4: They had to replay it.
[2:15:54] Speaker 5: Well, weren't they down?
[2:15:55] Speaker 2: They were down a King's Ransom.
[2:15:57] Speaker 1: Yeah, as a ref.
[2:15:58] Speaker 2: The Devs were down a King's Ransom.
[2:16:00] Speaker 4: As a ref?
[2:16:01] Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm going to call him. I'm going to do
[2:16:05] Speaker 1: it on purpose.
[2:16:06] Speaker 4: And then, and then, I know it's going to be
[2:16:08] Speaker 4: on TV.
[2:16:09] Speaker 1: I got to get my shine, too.
[2:16:11] Speaker 2: Teddy Valentine.
[2:16:12] Speaker 4: Teddy Valentine.
[2:16:14] Speaker 1: Do the dance.
[2:16:16] Speaker 6: Pop.
[2:16:16] Speaker 1: Yeah.
[2:16:18] Speaker 4: They tapped over that box.
[2:16:21] Speaker 1: Those refs are in the pros.
[2:16:23] Speaker 5: Those refs are in the pros.
[2:16:24] Speaker 2: So, turn around.
[2:16:25] Speaker 4: What's your number? And then you got to point.
[2:16:27] Speaker 1: Oh, yeah.
[2:16:28] Speaker 2: Yeah.
[2:16:31] Speaker 1: I might get fined. I got to flip them over,
[2:16:35] Speaker 1: get over. Let me see that number. Amen number.
[2:16:40] Speaker 2: Well, speaking of people getting dunked on, we got to
[2:16:42] Speaker 2: talk about some old shit that happened last week we
[2:16:44] Speaker 2: didn't address. Situation that went down during the Nuggets-Wolves game
[2:16:49] Speaker 2: this past Friday. Wanted to get all y'all on the
[2:16:52] Speaker 2: couch before we convened.
[2:16:53] Speaker 5: And talked about it.
[2:16:54] Speaker 2: Oh, Rudy. Involving Christian Brown, Rudy Gobert. We're getting it
[2:17:01] Speaker 2: right here. Christian Brown, no stranger to catching Rudy Gobert's slip.
[2:17:09] Speaker 4: After dugging on.
[2:17:10] Speaker 3: Him, Brown caught Gobert again Friday night. Obviously, Gobert took
[2:17:14] Speaker 3: issue with Brown's celebration. Minor melee ensuing.
[2:17:17] Speaker 4: Things took a turn with Russell Westbrook.
[2:17:21] Speaker 2: Get him, Brody. Westbrook pulled up to action.
[2:17:24] Speaker 3: Gobert got a little too nervous at the sight of
[2:17:26] Speaker 3: the future Hall of Famer running up on him.
[2:17:30] Speaker 4: He learning.
[2:17:32] Speaker 2: He learning.
[2:17:32] Speaker 4: Like, remember, he was boxing.
[2:17:34] Speaker 1: Who?
[2:17:34] Speaker 4: Rudy Goldberg.
[2:17:36] Speaker 5: Oh, the fight?
[2:17:37] Speaker 1: Yeah, he was boxing. So this is like, you know,
[2:17:38] Speaker 1: when you get little gloves in.
[2:17:40] Speaker 4: You see what happened when he turned around, though. Yeah, yeah,
[2:17:43] Speaker 4: that was real action. Oh, shit.
[2:17:45] Speaker 2: Who slowed down?
[2:17:46] Speaker 1: Huh?
[2:17:47] Speaker 2: You over there yelling.
[2:17:48] Speaker 1: Hey.
[2:17:49] Speaker 2: Who slowed down? Hey, hey, hey, slow your ass down.
[2:17:54] Speaker 4: I ain't see you coming, but I see you now.
[2:17:57] Speaker 4: Slow your ass down.
[2:17:58] Speaker 1: Yeah, I know it looked up. It looked up on
[2:18:02] Speaker 1: the camera, but you didn't slow your ass down.
[2:18:03] Speaker 2: You see him back up.
[2:18:04] Speaker 4: See him back up.
[2:18:05] Speaker 2: Yeah. You ain't a motherfucking trying to yell at a
[2:18:10] Speaker 2: squirrel in a motherfucking bear behind you.
[2:18:12] Speaker 1: You say, oh shit.
[2:18:13] Speaker 2: Yeah.
[2:18:15] Speaker 4: Motherfucking dude.
[2:18:16] Speaker 3: Can we see that video one more time, please, Paolo?
[2:18:19] Speaker 1: Come on, man.
[2:18:21] Speaker 2: Watch out.
[2:18:21] Speaker 1: Watch out.
[2:18:22] Speaker 2: Watch out.
[2:18:22] Speaker 1: Watch out, boy. You know what this look like? Oh, shit.
[2:18:27] Speaker 1: You know what?
[2:18:29] Speaker 4: I just seen some people react the same way. I
[2:18:33] Speaker 4: just seen a video of some people reacting the same way.
[2:18:36] Speaker 1: Being scared, right?
[2:18:39] Speaker 2: Yo, the first angle is the best. You got to
[2:18:41] Speaker 2: show the angle from behind. That's the best. Listen, the
[2:18:44] Speaker 2: flinch from behind is the perfect angle. We play it, please. Paula,
[2:18:48] Speaker 2: one more time for the visually impaired. This angle is
[2:18:52] Speaker 2: the best shit going. Watch this. Watch it. Oh, shit.
[2:18:56] Speaker 2: He said, oh, shit.
[2:19:00] Speaker 4: It's just like when the zombies came out. Oh, hell yeah. Oh, shit.
[2:19:04] Speaker 2: We did see that. Oh, shit.
[2:19:05] Speaker 4: What's the difference between the zombies coming out and this?
[2:19:08] Speaker 5: Nothing.
[2:19:08] Speaker 4: When you don't see it and you see.
[2:19:10] Speaker 1: It coming, you go, oh, oh, I see it now.
[2:19:13] Speaker 4: Exactly.
[2:19:15] Speaker 2: Now go sit down.
[2:19:16] Speaker 6: He didn't know black people was on a court still.
[2:19:18] Speaker 1: Now go sit down. He was smart. Now go sit down.
[2:19:20] Speaker 2: Rudy was smart.
[2:19:21] Speaker 1: Hey, everybody get in there and you didn't see it. Uh-oh,
[2:19:23] Speaker 1: I didn't even see you.
[2:19:24] Speaker 4: You know what you said?
[2:19:25] Speaker 1: You said, I didn't even see you back there.
[2:19:26] Speaker 2: He was like, I see you now, though. So you
[2:19:29] Speaker 2: know I.
[2:19:31] Speaker 5: So he knows to back the hell up.
[2:19:32] Speaker 4: Listen, Rudy defending himself, man.
[2:19:33] Speaker 2: All he need is.
[2:19:34] Speaker 5: Baby steps.
[2:19:35] Speaker 2: Yeah, just baby steps. But he's aggressive. Don't be exaggerated.
[2:19:39] Speaker 4: So, hold on.
[2:19:39] Speaker 1: He took one step forward.
[2:19:41] Speaker 2: Everybody took five steps back.
[2:19:42] Speaker 4: Five steps back in the same moment.
[2:19:44] Speaker 1: Once you show he and I see you, no progress.
[2:19:48] Speaker 2: Hey, what's up?
[2:19:50] Speaker 6: No, no, no.
[2:19:50] Speaker 4: Remember last time, right? I got mine, right?
[2:19:54] Speaker 1: I hooked him, tried to throw him.
[2:19:56] Speaker 2: He was a little stronger than I thought.
[2:19:57] Speaker 4: But I did it. Yeah.
[2:19:59] Speaker 1: And he came.
[2:20:00] Speaker 5: Oh, shit.
[2:20:00] Speaker 4: Wait, hold up.
[2:20:01] Speaker 2: Wait. I wasn't practicing this part yet.
[2:20:03] Speaker 4: I got this part, right?
[2:20:07] Speaker 6: Next summer, I'm going to do this and get ready
[2:20:09] Speaker 6: for you.
[2:20:10] Speaker 4: Next summer.
[2:20:10] Speaker 6: This summer, I only learned the first part.
[2:20:14] Speaker 4: The first part was, whoa, back up.
[2:20:16] Speaker 6: I wasn't ready for a second person. I was not
[2:20:19] Speaker 6: ready for a second person.
[2:20:20] Speaker 4: What happened last time when Draymond did this? What happened
[2:20:22] Speaker 4: when Draymond did this? See, that was what happened last time.
[2:20:24] Speaker 1: And that's why he turned away. He's like, oh, I
[2:20:26] Speaker 1: see you now. See? Draymond surprised me. Draymond got me
[2:20:30] Speaker 1: out of nowhere.
[2:20:31] Speaker 2: That's what fucked me up.
[2:20:32] Speaker 4: I'm ready now.
[2:20:33] Speaker 5: And then he was like, all right, I'm ready for you.
[2:20:36] Speaker 1: I'm ready now. That wasn't a reaction. No, because Draymond
[2:20:39] Speaker 1: played a play and then Draymond got.
[2:20:41] Speaker 4: Him from behind.
[2:20:42] Speaker 2: The reaction was like, I'm ready for you.
[2:20:45] Speaker 4: Watch out.
[2:20:46] Speaker 1: Watch out, Clay.
[2:20:47] Speaker 2: He barely moved.
[2:20:49] Speaker 1: He barely moved.
[2:20:51] Speaker 4: Rewind this. Watch out, Klay.
[2:20:53] Speaker 6: We got to think about Golden State.
[2:20:57] Speaker 5: Can we put it side to side?
[2:21:00] Speaker 2: Watch out.
[2:21:00] Speaker 4: Hey, hold on.
[2:21:02] Speaker 5: Watch out.
[2:21:02] Speaker 2: Hold on. Go, please.
[2:21:03] Speaker 1: Klay, watch out, Klay. Right?
[2:21:07] Speaker 5: And then Draymond.
[2:21:08] Speaker 2: Stop it right now.
[2:21:10] Speaker 4: Oh, shit, Draymond.
[2:21:11] Speaker 1: He's lit.
[2:21:12] Speaker 2: Listen, in all actuality, if this is Draymond, run it
[2:21:16] Speaker 2: up on him, he's getting his ass whooped. And that's
[2:21:19] Speaker 2: what he was.
[2:21:20] Speaker 1: In this moment right now, he ain't ready to get.
[2:21:22] Speaker 4: He ain't ready to defend himself or anything. Oh, shit.
[2:21:27] Speaker 4: Nobody would be.
[2:21:29] Speaker 1: I'm literally getting blindsided at this point. No. You're looking
[2:21:33] Speaker 1: at him. And what happens?
[2:21:35] Speaker 4: Look, what's up? Where did I go?
[2:21:37] Speaker 1: I didn't take no step.
[2:21:39] Speaker 2: Look where your hand's at.
[2:21:40] Speaker 1: Look where I'm at. Look where your hand's at. What's up?
[2:21:43] Speaker 1: Look where your hand's at. Look where you go. Look
[2:21:45] Speaker 1: where you go. What's up? Look where you go.
[2:21:48] Speaker 4: What's up? I'm right here. No, no, no, no, no.
[2:21:52] Speaker 6: If Russell Westbrook would have actually threw a punch, he's
[2:21:56] Speaker 6: knocked out.
[2:21:58] Speaker 1: Anybody, anybody throws a punch.
[2:22:01] Speaker 2: If you get sucker punched. You see him coming.
[2:22:03] Speaker 1: No, this ain't no sucker punch. Look, there's somebody right there.
[2:22:06] Speaker 2: Even if he throws it.
[2:22:07] Speaker 4: Play it again.
[2:22:08] Speaker 2: Don't look at me.
[2:22:09] Speaker 1: Look up there.
[2:22:11] Speaker 2: Don't look at me.
[2:22:12] Speaker 1: Look up there.
[2:22:13] Speaker 4: Play it.
[2:22:14] Speaker 1: Hollow.
[2:22:14] Speaker 4: Slow, slow.
[2:22:15] Speaker 2: Go back. He sees him right now.
[2:22:17] Speaker 4: Go back.
[2:22:17] Speaker 2: Go back.
[2:22:18] Speaker 7: Stop.
[2:22:19] Speaker 1: Stop. Stop.
[2:22:20] Speaker 4: Stop. Clip for clip.
[2:22:21] Speaker 2: Frame for frame. Go ahead. You must have lost a
[2:22:23] Speaker 2: lot of fights and everybody sucker punched you.
[2:22:26] Speaker 1: All right.
[2:22:26] Speaker 4: Ain't nobody never punched me, period.
[2:22:28] Speaker 1: Look.
[2:22:28] Speaker 2: Watch. Turning. Not yet. Russell Westbrook ain't in it.
[2:22:32] Speaker 4: Frame for frame.
[2:22:34] Speaker 1: He can't see nothing right now.
[2:22:35] Speaker 4: No, Westbrook is not there.
[2:22:37] Speaker 1: Now, he see him now.
[2:22:38] Speaker 4: Now I see you.
[2:22:39] Speaker 5: Listen.
[2:22:40] Speaker 4: Listen. And he's still not in the frame.
[2:22:41] Speaker 1: Listen.
[2:22:42] Speaker 2: Does he see him?
[2:22:42] Speaker 4: This would be if he sees Russell right here at
[2:22:46] Speaker 4: this point.
[2:22:46] Speaker 1: He does.
[2:22:46] Speaker 2: He does.
[2:22:47] Speaker 1: And he's swinging.
[2:22:48] Speaker 2: He's not swinging.
[2:22:49] Speaker 4: Okay.
[2:22:49] Speaker 2: He's not even close enough to swing.
[2:22:50] Speaker 4: So at what point is Russell going to swing then?
[2:22:51] Speaker 4: He's not even close.
[2:22:52] Speaker 1: So tell me at what point is he going to swing?
[2:22:55] Speaker 1: Come on. Keep going.
[2:22:57] Speaker 4: Keep going.
[2:22:57] Speaker 2: That's a referee. Yep.
[2:22:59] Speaker 1: Now I got time to put my hands up.
[2:23:00] Speaker 4: But you don't.
[2:23:01] Speaker 1: If I was scared. But you don't.
[2:23:02] Speaker 4: If I was scared.
[2:23:03] Speaker 1: Put your hands up. If I was scared, I would
[2:23:05] Speaker 1: put my hands up. But I see who's coming at me.
[2:23:08] Speaker 6: Right now, if Russell Westbrook swings right now, Rudy don't
[2:23:11] Speaker 6: even put his hands up yet.
[2:23:13] Speaker 1: Because he's not scared of.
[2:23:13] Speaker 4: This little nigga.
[2:23:14] Speaker 6: No, because he ain't practiced that part yet.
[2:23:17] Speaker 4: It's just a training.
[2:23:18] Speaker 2: He ain't practiced that part yet.
[2:23:20] Speaker 1: He didn't practice getting choked out from the back because
[2:23:22] Speaker 1: he didn't see him. He didn't see him.
[2:23:24] Speaker 5: He didn't see him.
[2:23:25] Speaker 8: When Draymond choked him, he didn't see Draymond coming.
[2:23:28] Speaker 2: But he put his hands up.
[2:23:29] Speaker 1: He didn't see him coming. He got him from the back.
[2:23:32] Speaker 6: Once he got choked, he said, Hallelujah! Right here is
[2:23:36] Speaker 6: what I'm saying.
[2:23:37] Speaker 4: I appreciate it.
[2:23:38] Speaker 6: His training right now ain't offense right now.
[2:23:40] Speaker 4: I appreciate it.
[2:23:41] Speaker 1: Right?
[2:23:42] Speaker 4: That's improved.
[2:23:42] Speaker 6: All I'm saying is, all I'm saying.
[2:23:45] Speaker 4: Is, all he going to do, look.
[2:23:48] Speaker 2: What's up? What I'm saying is, all he needs.
[2:23:50] Speaker 4: To do is this.
[2:23:51] Speaker 2: He going to keep it up.
[2:23:52] Speaker 6: Hey, his trainer going to get him this.
[2:23:53] Speaker 2: You going to choke him here.
[2:23:55] Speaker 4: You going to look here.
[2:23:56] Speaker 2: You going to choke him here. You going to look here.
[2:23:58] Speaker 2: That's this summer.
[2:23:59] Speaker 4: Y'all like the sucker.
[2:23:59] Speaker 2: This summer.
[2:24:00] Speaker 1: This summer, right now, he just getting to choke and
[2:24:03] Speaker 1: do one of those.
[2:24:04] Speaker 4: That's it. It's the choking celebration.
[2:24:06] Speaker 2: I don't like the fair fades, huh?
[2:24:07] Speaker 6: No, no, it's choking celebration right now.
[2:24:10] Speaker 1: Come on, man.
[2:24:11] Speaker 6: No, this is choking celebration. If Russ throws a right hook,
[2:24:14] Speaker 6: knocks him defucked.
[2:24:15] Speaker 2: Russ needs to chill out.
[2:24:16] Speaker 1: This ain't got nothing to do with you, Russ.
[2:24:18] Speaker 4: Sit down.
[2:24:20] Speaker 1: Oh, shit.
[2:24:21] Speaker 6: What I'm saying is right now, this is just he's
[2:24:23] Speaker 6: being trained, choked.
[2:24:24] Speaker 1: And celebrated.
[2:24:25] Speaker 5: It's way worse than slow-mo.
[2:24:27] Speaker 2: It's two-on-one.
[2:24:28] Speaker 1: Who? Ooh.
[2:24:32] Speaker 2: What's two on one? What did I just do?
[2:24:35] Speaker 1: What did I just do with one of them? With
[2:24:37] Speaker 1: one of them. What did I just do with one
[2:24:40] Speaker 1: of them?
[2:24:41] Speaker 2: What did I do?
[2:24:42] Speaker 1: What did I do?
[2:24:43] Speaker 2: I was out of here.
[2:24:45] Speaker 1: That's one.
[2:24:45] Speaker 4: I wasn't ready for that.
[2:24:48] Speaker 2: I got another one coming at me.
[2:24:50] Speaker 1: I got another one coming at me.
[2:24:52] Speaker 2: That's session two.
[2:24:54] Speaker 5: That's session two.
[2:24:57] Speaker 6: If I'm him, I'm like, yo, just let me get
[2:24:58] Speaker 6: to the summer. Next summer, I'm going to be able
[2:25:01] Speaker 6: to defend myself here and then get you.
[2:25:05] Speaker 2: And then if there's a third, that's the following someone.
[2:25:07] Speaker 5: If you got to jump me, you a hoe.
[2:25:08] Speaker 1: I ain't going to lie.
[2:25:09] Speaker 2: If you got to jump me, you a hoe.
[2:25:11] Speaker 4: Yeah, he scared me. I'm by myself.
[2:25:12] Speaker 1: I'm by myself, man. And you saw his reaction.
[2:25:15] Speaker 4: I'm by myself, man. Your reaction. I'm by myself.
[2:25:18] Speaker 2: Go get your homeboys. That's part two.
[2:25:19] Speaker 1: Hey, always have your homeboys with you. Just know that.
[2:25:22] Speaker 4: And belt. Have your homeboys with you. White belt is starting, right?
[2:25:26] Speaker 2: White belt, but it's white and brown, right? Yellow.
[2:25:31] Speaker 6: Whatever belt is number two, that's what he going to
[2:25:33] Speaker 6: be working on this summer.
[2:25:35] Speaker 1: That's it. You can't put him in green and blue yet.
[2:25:39] Speaker 2: Not yet. Watch out. Westbrook, I'm not there yet.
[2:25:42] Speaker 5: Watch out.
[2:25:43] Speaker 7: White belt, gold belt, green belt, purple belt, blue belt,
[2:25:47] Speaker 7: red belt, brown belt, black belt.
[2:25:49] Speaker 5: Brown belt is almost black, so no.
[2:25:52] Speaker 2: Let's not confuse Rudy Gobert ever with no killer.
[2:25:56] Speaker 4: Let's not confuse no NBA player with no killer.
[2:26:00] Speaker 2: Any of them. When we're speaking of what we're talking
[2:26:03] Speaker 2: about in this manner.
[2:26:04] Speaker 1: Any of them, even in this manner.
[2:26:07] Speaker 4: Any of them.
[2:26:08] Speaker 2: So therefore, he can practice all the shit that he
[2:26:12] Speaker 2: wants to. If he's ever in these situations, you're going
[2:26:16] Speaker 2: to see his honest-to-God reaction in that moment. Your first
[2:26:21] Speaker 2: reaction in that moment is what What you say about
[2:26:25] Speaker 2: me yesterday? You two.
[2:26:28] Speaker 1: Yeah.
[2:26:28] Speaker 6: What y'all say about me yesterday? We ain't expecting for
[2:26:32] Speaker 6: me to hit you hard.
[2:26:33] Speaker 4: No, yeah, we're not expecting everybody to do what you
[2:26:36] Speaker 4: would do.
[2:26:37] Speaker 2: Exactly. So what we talking about?
[2:26:39] Speaker 5: That no matter how much he trains.
[2:26:41] Speaker 2: He's going to be his first person.
[2:26:42] Speaker 1: No, no, no, but he's not going to do what
[2:26:44] Speaker 1: Brian did. His first person. Yeah, he's not going to
[2:26:46] Speaker 1: do that. He's not going to do what he did.
[2:26:48] Speaker 1: He can do all the training that he want, man.
[2:26:51] Speaker 4: His brain... Listen.
[2:26:53] Speaker 2: It's going to go to his first night. Yo, an
[2:26:56] Speaker 2: instinct is he did with his first.
[2:26:59] Speaker 1: He didn't do this when.
[2:26:59] Speaker 4: He saw Russ running at him.
[2:27:01] Speaker 1: Do you think my instinct?
[2:27:03] Speaker 2: What's happening?
[2:27:03] Speaker 1: What was his instinct?
[2:27:05] Speaker 2: He jumped, motherfucker.
[2:27:07] Speaker 1: So 100% of people's response. To being attacked is going
[2:27:15] Speaker 1: to be... It's going to be like this? I'm asking.
[2:27:19] Speaker 2: I'm asking.
[2:27:20] Speaker 1: Because what you're saying is his response to that, he
[2:27:24] Speaker 1: shouldn't have responded that way. He should have responded a
[2:27:26] Speaker 1: different way.
[2:27:26] Speaker 4: No, he responded how he's going to respond. So he
[2:27:29] Speaker 4: a punk, he a pussy because he didn't respond the
[2:27:32] Speaker 4: way you responded. No, he responded how.
[2:27:34] Speaker 2: He's going to respond.
[2:27:34] Speaker 1: So why does he have to be.
[2:27:35] Speaker 2: Anything but Rudy?
[2:27:37] Speaker 4: Yeah, what's wrong with that? In that moment, What's wrong
[2:27:40] Speaker 4: with it? Oh, okay, because it's not good enough. Not
[2:27:43] Speaker 4: good enough.
[2:27:45] Speaker 1: So who should he.
[2:27:45] Speaker 2: Have responded like?
[2:27:48] Speaker 1: Right here?
[2:27:49] Speaker 2: I'm fine with his response.
[2:27:49] Speaker 5: No, I'm asking.
[2:27:50] Speaker 1: I'm just... Who said Rudy Gobert has responded like Rudy Gobert?
[2:27:55] Speaker 2: Rudy Gobert.
[2:27:55] Speaker 1: Rudy Gobert. Y'all saying it's not good enough.
[2:27:57] Speaker 4: No, I'm saying it's fine.
[2:27:59] Speaker 2: You are.
[2:28:00] Speaker 1: Because I know how much money he spent. You are,
[2:28:02] Speaker 1: but I'm saying.
[2:28:03] Speaker 2: Level one.
[2:28:04] Speaker 4: He's fine.
[2:28:04] Speaker 1: He's fine?
[2:28:04] Speaker 4: Yes.
[2:28:05] Speaker 1: Yes.
[2:28:05] Speaker 3: Yes.
[2:28:08] Speaker 1: We don't want them fighting. He's being himself.
[2:28:10] Speaker 4: I don't want players fighting each other. If I'm him,
[2:28:12] Speaker 4: if I'm telling you... He's being himself.
[2:28:14] Speaker 1: Y'all clipping? Rudy Goldberg.
[2:28:17] Speaker 2: He's being himself.
[2:28:18] Speaker 4: Rudy Goldberg.
[2:28:19] Speaker 6: If I'm you, I would have flinched at Russell Westbrook
[2:28:23] Speaker 6: because you know it's Russell Westbrook. He has a brand
[2:28:26] Speaker 6: and he's a family man, so you know he won't
[2:28:29] Speaker 6: be throwing.
[2:28:29] Speaker 2: Punches, okay?
[2:28:31] Speaker 6: There's a lot of other stars out there.
[2:28:33] Speaker 1: Jason Tatum won't be doing that.
[2:28:35] Speaker 2: Jayden Brown won't be doing that.
[2:28:37] Speaker 1: Uh.
[2:28:38] Speaker 4: Giannis, tricky. Somebody running at you with their hands about
[2:28:43] Speaker 4: to punch you, you don't think everybody's.
[2:28:44] Speaker 2: Going to respond?
[2:28:45] Speaker 4: No, Kevin Durant.
[2:28:47] Speaker 2: Kevin Durant ain't going to do nothing.
[2:28:49] Speaker 5: Yeah, right.
[2:28:51] Speaker 2: Booker's not going.
[2:28:52] Speaker 6: To do nothing, so if you decide to go like this,
[2:28:54] Speaker 6: they're going to.
[2:28:55] Speaker 1: Yo, let's talk about all the factors with that. That's
[2:28:57] Speaker 1: too much money for them.
[2:28:58] Speaker 6: That's too much star power to be sitting there trying
[2:29:00] Speaker 6: to throw punches. So he should have known when he
[2:29:02] Speaker 6: seen Russ.
[2:29:03] Speaker 1: Once he seen Russ, aw, then you ain't done. That's
[2:29:05] Speaker 1: exactly what he did.
[2:29:07] Speaker 4: You ain't doing nothing.
[2:29:07] Speaker 1: That's what he did. You ain't doing nothing. That's what
[2:29:10] Speaker 1: he did. You ain't doing nothing. I ain't got to
[2:29:13] Speaker 1: put my hands up for you, man.
[2:29:15] Speaker 4: What's up, bro? I would have got real big.
[2:29:17] Speaker 6: This Russell, I would have got real big.
[2:29:19] Speaker 4: I know Russell Brand. He's Jordan Brand.
[2:29:21] Speaker 2: Yeah.
[2:29:22] Speaker 6: You ain't swinging, sir.
[2:29:23] Speaker 2: I would have been.
[2:29:25] Speaker 1: The finch would have came out.
[2:29:26] Speaker 2: I would have smacked.
[2:29:29] Speaker 1: Him. You better back up. I would have smacked.
[2:29:32] Speaker 2: Left you.
[2:29:33] Speaker 4: Left you.
[2:29:34] Speaker 1: Right? I know Russell can't do nothing.
[2:29:38] Speaker 6: He ain't losing his Jordan brand over me.
[2:29:42] Speaker 1: I'm going to cue you. I'm going to cue you.
[2:29:46] Speaker 6: There's just certain people, you know.
[2:29:50] Speaker 2: That man didn't run up on one of them with
[2:29:52] Speaker 2: his hands up, y'all.
[2:29:53] Speaker 4: That man's hands was down. That man just reacting how
[2:29:56] Speaker 4: he going to react.
[2:29:56] Speaker 2: No matter how y'all spin.
[2:29:57] Speaker 4: It, it ain't going to change it for me. That
[2:29:59] Speaker 4: New York team.
[2:29:59] Speaker 1: That had that, all of them runs.
[2:30:03] Speaker 4: They don't care about brands, none of them.
[2:30:05] Speaker 2: Right?
[2:30:06] Speaker 1: Shit.
[2:30:07] Speaker 4: Jared, Jeff, he's all old.
[2:30:09] Speaker 1: Now they coming. I won't let you, you.
[2:30:11] Speaker 2: I won't let you, you.
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[2:30:36] Speaker 1: What's going on, guys?
[2:30:38] Speaker 2: Quick question.
[2:30:38] Speaker 4: Should the NBA bring back handshaking to improve defense, or
[2:30:42] Speaker 4: do we continue to sacrifice the defense for the game
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[2:30:57] Speaker 1: Let me say hand check.
[2:31:01] Speaker 6: Listen, hand check is still in below the free throw line.
[2:31:05] Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah.
[2:31:06] Speaker 6: So it's still in the lead. Don't let them tell
[2:31:09] Speaker 6: you otherwise. Okay, the reason the hand check is not
[2:31:14] Speaker 6: a pointless thing. The problem is it became very dangerous.
[2:31:20] Speaker 2: And the reason is this, is.
[2:31:23] Speaker 6: If you're in front of me and you're facing forward,
[2:31:25] Speaker 6: I literally.
[2:31:25] Speaker 4: Can't put my hand on your belly button. Right, right, right. Right?
[2:31:28] Speaker 2: So the hand check doesn't work there anyway.
[2:31:30] Speaker 1: Right?
[2:31:31] Speaker 6: I have to be sideways for you to get to
[2:31:33] Speaker 6: grabbing me. So what ends up happening is these guards today,
[2:31:37] Speaker 6: kind of like in the mid-' 90s, they're coming downhill.
[2:31:40] Speaker 2: Right?
[2:31:41] Speaker 6: So you're talking about Ja Morant, all these guys coming downhill.
[2:31:43] Speaker 6: What ends up happening?
[2:31:45] Speaker 4: I'm allowed to keep my hand on you.
[2:31:48] Speaker 2: What I'm going to do? What I'm going to do?
[2:31:50] Speaker 6: Run him right into the bigs, right? If you got
[2:31:53] Speaker 6: somebody like Joel Embiid or you got Steven Adams down there,
[2:31:57] Speaker 6: he going to turn into a wall and all you're
[2:31:59] Speaker 6: going to do is just push him right into Steven Adams.
[2:32:01] Speaker 6: So that's what ended up happening. It ended up happening
[2:32:04] Speaker 6: as these guys are taken off from the three-point line
[2:32:06] Speaker 6: and these guys are just pushing him right into the
[2:32:08] Speaker 6: big man.
[2:32:09] Speaker 2: And it became very dangerous. That's the only reason it's off.
[2:32:12] Speaker 5: The rule they need to look at is all these
[2:32:13] Speaker 5: damn illegal screens.
[2:32:16] Speaker 6: Yeah.
[2:32:16] Speaker 5: Oh, my God.
[2:32:17] Speaker 4: I think the pair with that, the legal screens and
[2:32:20] Speaker 4: the drop defense makes it nasty. Because if you were
[2:32:25] Speaker 4: able to hand check over the screen, right? I could
[2:32:29] Speaker 4: control him over.
[2:32:30] Speaker 2: But you can't.
[2:32:30] Speaker 4: But below the free throw line.
[2:32:32] Speaker 1: It depends on who the guard is.
[2:32:35] Speaker 2: Like, if you look at Drew Holiday, he still handshakes.
[2:32:37] Speaker 5: Oh.
[2:32:38] Speaker 4: But he does it the way we know how to
[2:32:40] Speaker 4: do it, which is on and off.
[2:32:41] Speaker 2: No, no.
[2:32:41] Speaker 6: Sometimes he'll just hold it and just go across because he's...
[2:32:44] Speaker 6: But it's players.
[2:32:45] Speaker 4: Like that, though.
[2:32:46] Speaker 5: Like, they're going to get... Yeah, he doesn't get screened
[2:32:48] Speaker 5: because if they.
[2:32:49] Speaker 1: Move, they're going to get it. Yeah, he knows how
[2:32:51] Speaker 1: to move.
[2:32:51] Speaker 5: But these guys who are not handshaking, that's how they're getting.
[2:32:54] Speaker 1: They get hit.
[2:32:54] Speaker 5: They're getting hit by these illegal screens because they're not
[2:32:56] Speaker 5: playing aggressive defense.
[2:32:57] Speaker 4: Because you can't touch the guy coming off the screen.
[2:33:00] Speaker 1: Exactly. They don't know how.
[2:33:01] Speaker 2: It's true.
[2:33:02] Speaker 4: We used to call it get into the ball on
[2:33:04] Speaker 4: the side. You got to get into the ball, ride
[2:33:05] Speaker 4: it over the top of the screen. They don't even
[2:33:08] Speaker 4: do that no more.
[2:33:08] Speaker 5: Right, and that's why they get away with so many
[2:33:10] Speaker 5: illegal screens.
[2:33:11] Speaker 4: No, because we used to have the show, right?
[2:33:13] Speaker 1: Facts.
[2:33:13] Speaker 4: Ride over the screen, show, get under, and I'm back
[2:33:16] Speaker 4: in front. They don't do that at all.
[2:33:18] Speaker 1: All drop.
[2:33:18] Speaker 2: All drop.
[2:33:20] Speaker 4: Or switch.
[2:33:20] Speaker 2: Here, look at it like this. The hand check didn't
[2:33:26] Speaker 2: stop players like Isaiah Thomas, right? Kevin Johnson. Oh, okay.
[2:33:32] Speaker 4: Tim Hardaway, right?
[2:33:33] Speaker 2: The scoring guards, it didn't stop them.
[2:33:37] Speaker 6: Now this NBA has more of those and less John
[2:33:43] Speaker 6: Stockton types.
[2:33:44] Speaker 2: For sure. Right?
[2:33:45] Speaker 6: So back then, if you look at the guards, the
[2:33:47] Speaker 6: best two guards that kind of scored.
[2:33:49] Speaker 2: Was Isaiah Thomas and then Magic. Yep.
[2:33:52] Speaker 7: Right?
[2:33:53] Speaker 6: The handshake didn't stop them from getting anywhere they wanted to. Now,
[2:33:59] Speaker 6: 28 of those guys are in the league today. So,
[2:34:03] Speaker 6: you know, when people talk about, like, bring it back,
[2:34:05] Speaker 6: it's like, it didn't stop the guys who scored. Now
[2:34:08] Speaker 6: there's just more scores today.
[2:34:10] Speaker 2: That's all. Like, bring back defense, man, is... It's needed.
[2:34:17] Speaker 4: It's needed. It's needed. It's needed to make the offense better.
[2:34:21] Speaker 4: It's needed to make the offense better.
[2:34:23] Speaker 2: What I'm saying is, but what part of it are
[2:34:26] Speaker 2: you bringing?
[2:34:27] Speaker 4: Like, what can you do?
[2:34:30] Speaker 2: What can you do.
[2:34:32] Speaker 4: In a rule book that's actually going to help you?
[2:34:36] Speaker 4: Restrict movement.
[2:34:37] Speaker 1: No.
[2:34:39] Speaker 2: What does that mean?
[2:34:41] Speaker 1: It means that the driving lanes for you to create...
[2:34:46] Speaker 1: The driving lanes for you to create.
[2:34:48] Speaker 4: Hold on, let me help y'all out with this real quick.
[2:34:50] Speaker 2: Let me just put it in perspective, right? What the
[2:34:54] Speaker 2: defensive thing is and where it can be helped. Just
[2:34:57] Speaker 2: a small amount. How many years y'all have to stay
[2:35:00] Speaker 2: in school?
[2:35:01] Speaker 5: Four. Three, technically.
[2:35:05] Speaker 2: And when y'all get to the W, y'all are Most
[2:35:08] Speaker 2: of y'all pretty good at defense.
[2:35:10] Speaker 1: Yeah.
[2:35:10] Speaker 2: Y'all know how to play team defense. Y'all rely on defense.
[2:35:13] Speaker 1: Yeah.
[2:35:14] Speaker 5: Right?
[2:35:14] Speaker 1: Mm-hmm.
[2:35:15] Speaker 6: Y'all understand these defensive concepts.
[2:35:18] Speaker 1: Right.
[2:35:20] Speaker 2: They spent more time doing it.
[2:35:22] Speaker 6: Right?
[2:35:22] Speaker 2: Because they have to. They have to be in school
[2:35:25] Speaker 2: longer learning these things. Guys coming in at 19, you
[2:35:28] Speaker 2: had eight months at it.
[2:35:30] Speaker 1: Mm-hmm.
[2:35:31] Speaker 4: I'm learning team concepts.
[2:35:32] Speaker 2: Learning coming from overseas, you learning playing basketball over there.
[2:35:37] Speaker 4: Since 13.
[2:35:37] Speaker 2: It's different, right?
[2:35:39] Speaker 6: So theirs are built on fundamentals of team defense, standing
[2:35:44] Speaker 6: in front of the ball, passing lanes, all of those things, right?
[2:35:48] Speaker 2: All the basics. So learning those things because you learn
[2:35:51] Speaker 2: in college and you're drilling this shit.
[2:35:54] Speaker 4: Daily.
[2:35:54] Speaker 6: You're doing this shit every day.
[2:35:56] Speaker 4: For four years.
[2:35:57] Speaker 6: Most of them took red shirt freshman year.
[2:36:00] Speaker 4: They still doing this shit.
[2:36:01] Speaker 1: They still doing it for four years, right?
[2:36:04] Speaker 4: Either way it go, right?
[2:36:05] Speaker 6: So you're getting, like when I came, I did this
[2:36:07] Speaker 6: shit for four years, bro.
[2:36:09] Speaker 2: And Bob Huggins, it wasn't ask. It was demanded that
[2:36:12] Speaker 2: we play good on the ball defense first and foremost.
[2:36:15] Speaker 2: Ain't no just getting by you straight line drives. He
[2:36:18] Speaker 2: cussing you out and taking you out. With them, they
[2:36:21] Speaker 2: get straight line, it's a problem. With us, how many
[2:36:24] Speaker 2: straight line drives in the NBA? Guys ain't did shit just...
[2:36:27] Speaker 2: Per game.
[2:36:27] Speaker 1: Per game. It's a lot of that shit, right?
[2:36:29] Speaker 2: So when you learned foot positioning and you working on
[2:36:32] Speaker 2: this shit daily, and they asked of you when it's demanded,
[2:36:37] Speaker 2: every single day, you'll get better at it. I ain't
[2:36:41] Speaker 2: saying you're going to be a master, and I ain't
[2:36:42] Speaker 2: saying you're going to be the best defender, but you
[2:36:44] Speaker 2: get better at it, right? You can benefit from doing
[2:36:48] Speaker 2: this shit daily. Nobody, when you get to the NBA,
[2:36:51] Speaker 2: nobody's working on these things because you're too busy working
[2:36:54] Speaker 2: on your other side of it, which you need. We
[2:36:58] Speaker 2: get it, but that part of it comes before you
[2:37:02] Speaker 2: get to the NBA. When you get to the NBA,
[2:37:04] Speaker 2: it's more of concepts, game planning, trying to put you
[2:37:08] Speaker 2: in the right position to be successful. Those things never
[2:37:12] Speaker 2: teach you how to stay in front of the fucking ball, ever.
[2:37:15] Speaker 5: That takes repetition.
[2:37:16] Speaker 2: That takes repetition.
[2:37:17] Speaker 4: In college?
[2:37:19] Speaker 2: But college is more, see, it's structure. College is more
[2:37:22] Speaker 2: team defense. But we still working, no, I hear you.
[2:37:26] Speaker 2: Individual defense.
[2:37:27] Speaker 4: I hear you, but we doing close, no. We doing closeouts.
[2:37:31] Speaker 2: We doing one-on-one closeouts. Two-on-two closeouts. Three on three clothes out.
[2:37:36] Speaker 2: We doing, you got to share. You're doing it daily, right?
[2:37:40] Speaker 1: So you're learning those things. Don't let the ball get
[2:37:42] Speaker 1: in the paint.
[2:37:42] Speaker 2: Don't let the ball, yeah.
[2:37:43] Speaker 4: Don't let it swing.
[2:37:44] Speaker 2: The motherfuckers don't box out.
[2:37:45] Speaker 1: None of that. Listen, all this shit, right? You had
[2:37:47] Speaker 1: to box out drill.
[2:37:48] Speaker 2: So it's a lot of shit that they don't do
[2:37:51] Speaker 2: that they haven't learned how to be good at, right?
[2:37:55] Speaker 2: When you got a lot of these dudes going to
[2:37:57] Speaker 2: school and you know they only going to be there
[2:37:58] Speaker 2: for eight months, nine months, whatever, it's eight months.
[2:38:01] Speaker 4: Man, at tops when you're in college.
[2:38:05] Speaker 2: You don't have the time to really get, unless you
[2:38:09] Speaker 2: came in with it, you don't have the time to
[2:38:13] Speaker 2: learn it. What's the kid, Davion Mitchell? Davion Mitchell with
[2:38:18] Speaker 2: the Kings.
[2:38:19] Speaker 4: He went to.
[2:38:20] Speaker 2: Baylor for a few years, like, fucking animal on the ball.
[2:38:25] Speaker 4: Animal.
[2:38:25] Speaker 2: Right? For sure. Gary Payton.
[2:38:29] Speaker 4: Killer.
[2:38:29] Speaker 2: The kid that played for Hugs.
[2:38:33] Speaker 1: Alvarado.
[2:38:34] Speaker 2: No, no, no, no, no, no. Oh, the.
[2:38:37] Speaker 5: Is he bald?
[2:38:38] Speaker 1: Yes.
[2:38:39] Speaker 6: Yes.
[2:38:39] Speaker 2: I'm drawing a blank. Damn animal on the ball. Played
[2:38:42] Speaker 2: for Huggs for four years at West Virginia.
[2:38:44] Speaker 5: Dang, what is his name? I know exactly who you're
[2:38:46] Speaker 5: talking about.
[2:38:46] Speaker 2: But my point is, it can be done now, still,
[2:38:51] Speaker 2: but I understand what the game is. Look, I'm just
[2:38:54] Speaker 2: rambling right now. I'm not rambling, but it's just... You
[2:38:58] Speaker 2: can learn a lot from spending more time at that.
[2:39:01] Speaker 1: Because Aguil's point is, the defense.
[2:39:05] Speaker 4: The emphasis of the defense compared to the offense.
[2:39:09] Speaker 2: People making more of it.
[2:39:10] Speaker 4: You want to lean toward the offense because this is
[2:39:13] Speaker 4: where we are with the new generation. But to go
[2:39:16] Speaker 4: against your point, you need the defense to make.
[2:39:18] Speaker 1: The offense more powerful. We're not forcing them to counter.
[2:39:22] Speaker 1: We're not forcing them to do other things.
[2:39:24] Speaker 2: Think about besides you guys' teams. Look at the guys
[2:39:28] Speaker 2: that went to Villanova. Right, look at Jalen Brunson, look
[2:39:31] Speaker 2: at Danny Chinzo, look at Mikael Bridges, look at them guys, right?
[2:39:35] Speaker 1: Uh-huh.
[2:39:36] Speaker 2: Are they great at defense? They suck. They know the concepts. No, no, no.
[2:39:40] Speaker 4: So they have an anchor in the back, two bigs.
[2:39:42] Speaker 4: So they know how.
[2:39:44] Speaker 2: To do it. No, Jalen Brunson competes on defense.
[2:39:46] Speaker 1: 100%.
[2:39:46] Speaker 4: They play defense.
[2:39:47] Speaker 1: They're not great defenders.
[2:39:48] Speaker 2: Chinzo competes on defense. Mikael Bridges, he's a solid defender.
[2:39:53] Speaker 4: Solid.
[2:39:53] Speaker 2: They compete, right? I'm just saying they learned these things
[2:39:56] Speaker 2: because they had to do those things to win national
[2:39:59] Speaker 2: championships in college. So they took some of those concepts
[2:40:03] Speaker 2: that they learned there, you just implemented them at the
[2:40:06] Speaker 2: highest level in college.
[2:40:09] Speaker 6: And what year would you say you started dominating, where
[2:40:15] Speaker 6: you really was like, you can't guard me? You can't
[2:40:18] Speaker 6: guard me? Like, y'all can't do nothing with me. Oh,
[2:40:21] Speaker 6: that was my senior year. You're junior year two? How
[2:40:25] Speaker 6: many people did you meet like you?
[2:40:27] Speaker 2: Wasn't too many people that was athletic and did... But
[2:40:31] Speaker 2: that's what I'm saying.
[2:40:35] Speaker 6: Sometimes you can be a great college defender And then
[2:40:40] Speaker 6: you get to the NBA, you remember the NBA is
[2:40:43] Speaker 6: all the apexes of the apexes.
[2:40:45] Speaker 2: You know what I mean?
[2:40:46] Speaker 6: So me doing the closeout drill in college.
[2:40:48] Speaker 1: But it's not about being a great defender in the NBA, though.
[2:40:50] Speaker 4: It's not about being a great defender. It's about knowing
[2:40:52] Speaker 4: the basic fundamentals of defense in the NBA. Not being
[2:40:55] Speaker 4: a great defender in the NBA, but knowing that it's
[2:40:58] Speaker 4: not a.
[2:40:59] Speaker 2: Lot of great.
[2:40:59] Speaker 6: But in college, it's more of concepts. Even NBA is concepts, but.
[2:41:06] Speaker 5: A lot of these guys on defense are so lost sometimes.
[2:41:10] Speaker 6: So as fast as I can get to a spot, you're.
[2:41:15] Speaker 4: At that spot fast.
[2:41:16] Speaker 2: So let me ask you a question, right?
[2:41:17] Speaker 4: Like, ours is more speed than anything.
[2:41:22] Speaker 2: How was y'all practices at Arizona?
[2:41:25] Speaker 4: Good.
[2:41:26] Speaker 2: I mean, like, no, as far as, like, were they
[2:41:29] Speaker 2: hard practices? Were they intense practices, right? Everything was fast now, right?
[2:41:35] Speaker 1: Yep.
[2:41:38] Speaker 2: So it's the same, like, just imagine if guys had
[2:41:40] Speaker 2: that sense of urgency that.
[2:41:43] Speaker 1: Y'all, right?
[2:41:44] Speaker 2: Because it was demanded, though, right?
[2:41:47] Speaker 6: But see, I was considered a defensive player.
[2:41:49] Speaker 1: Yeah.
[2:41:49] Speaker 2: So I'm guarding Jason Gardner. Yeah, you're guarding a really
[2:41:53] Speaker 2: good guy. I had to guard Jason Gardner, right? He's
[2:41:55] Speaker 2: really good. Yes.
[2:41:56] Speaker 7: Right?
[2:41:57] Speaker 2: That's not an idea. but he's really good at it.
[2:42:00] Speaker 2: That's Mulberry.
[2:42:01] Speaker 6: Right, so my little concepts on him, right, I shut
[2:42:05] Speaker 6: down Eddie House.
[2:42:06] Speaker 2: But you know how to move your feet, though. But
[2:42:08] Speaker 2: you know how to move your feet. You know how
[2:42:09] Speaker 2: to move your feet. You know the angle to go
[2:42:12] Speaker 2: to and cut somebody off. You knew all those things
[2:42:14] Speaker 2: because you had to do it guarding Jason Gardner because
[2:42:17] Speaker 2: he was really good with the ball. He was aggressive,
[2:42:19] Speaker 2: but you learn those things every day.
[2:42:21] Speaker 6: It's team structure and making sure. I think ours, the
[2:42:26] Speaker 6: difference between college and the NBA on defense is college,
[2:42:32] Speaker 6: their second and third and fourth.
[2:42:37] Speaker 4: Attempts at it.
[2:42:38] Speaker 6: NBA, I get by you, he stops you, I don't
[2:42:42] Speaker 6: dig back. Right?
[2:42:44] Speaker 2: So I don't make the second and third effort. Absolutely.
[2:42:46] Speaker 2: That's the NBA's problem. The NBA don't do the second, third, fourth. Absolutely.
[2:42:51] Speaker 4: Right?
[2:42:51] Speaker 2: And that is the real issue.
[2:42:54] Speaker 4: It's not that.
[2:42:55] Speaker 1: I can't stand in front of Shane.
[2:42:56] Speaker 2: It's the straight line, the no help. All of it exists.
[2:42:59] Speaker 2: So your point, absolutely.
[2:43:00] Speaker 6: Like when Luka started looking great on defense.
[2:43:03] Speaker 2: Yeah.
[2:43:04] Speaker 4: That was nothing. We all was like bullshit.
[2:43:06] Speaker 6: It's what's happening is you stay in front of them,
[2:43:08] Speaker 6: just make them do a second dribble.
[2:43:10] Speaker 1: Yeah.
[2:43:11] Speaker 2: Okay, coach, right?
[2:43:12] Speaker 6: He's going to help you. Make sure you help his guy.
[2:43:15] Speaker 6: And that's what that was.
[2:43:17] Speaker 3: Rashad, quick, that's all your hand up. Last comment before
[2:43:20] Speaker 3: we call it a day, but what you got to say?
[2:43:22] Speaker 4: I think that, like, the coaches in the NBA, they
[2:43:26] Speaker 4: have an expectation for players to come in, and I
[2:43:29] Speaker 4: don't feel like I'm teaching you how to play defense.
[2:43:33] Speaker 2: Oh, facts.
[2:43:33] Speaker 4: You're supposed to know when you come in. That's why
[2:43:35] Speaker 4: the 19-year-old takes a lot longer than the 22-year-old because
[2:43:39] Speaker 4: we have to teach him all these concepts that we,
[2:43:42] Speaker 4: as professionals, are supposed to be expert at. It's called
[2:43:46] Speaker 4: a professional. That's why it's amateur sports, amateurism. So be
[2:43:51] Speaker 4: an amateur. Learn how to be a professional. Don't come
[2:43:54] Speaker 4: to the pros as an amateur saying, ah, teach me. Mm-hmm.
[2:43:58] Speaker 2: Right?
[2:43:59] Speaker 4: That's the backfall of the NBA right now. They're wasting
[2:44:01] Speaker 4: years trying to teach guys how to be and have
[2:44:06] Speaker 4: fundamentals that are not being taught because they're not spending
[2:44:09] Speaker 4: enough time in college. One year, like you said, eight
[2:44:12] Speaker 4: months ain't enough to really know how to deny that
[2:44:15] Speaker 4: side and see how they're doing in the NBA and
[2:44:17] Speaker 4: they're still doing it wrong because there's a bunch of
[2:44:19] Speaker 4: guys doing it wrong. You don't have no examples except
[2:44:21] Speaker 4: for like a Drew Holiday doing it right. The guys
[2:44:24] Speaker 4: who have spent years Perfecting it.
[2:44:27] Speaker 6: What's so funny is I looked at, I looked at, uh, like,
[2:44:31] Speaker 6: let's say defensive players of the years or those great
[2:44:34] Speaker 6: first team, all defensive players. It kind of took them, like,
[2:44:38] Speaker 6: four years before they figured out how to be dominant. So, like,
[2:44:42] Speaker 6: the Gary Patons, you know, like, the Kawhi, like, it took, yeah,
[2:44:47] Speaker 6: it took it, like, you know, it takes. Like, you
[2:44:49] Speaker 6: got to really understand. There's more speed, but for the
[2:44:52] Speaker 6: most part, those guys want to do it.
[2:44:54] Speaker 2: Yeah, Ron Artes. Right? If we say James Harden, yo,
[2:44:58] Speaker 2: play defense, right? You, you, I don't need you to
[2:45:01] Speaker 2: score 20 and 11.
[2:45:03] Speaker 6: Just lock your man down.
[2:45:05] Speaker 2: Yeah.
[2:45:05] Speaker 4: Challenge.
[2:45:06] Speaker 2: He would be like, all right, baby.
[2:45:07] Speaker 4: Challenge is set.
[2:45:07] Speaker 2: Right?
[2:45:08] Speaker 6: The motherfucker might have five points, one assist, but he
[2:45:11] Speaker 6: would look like an A1 defender.
[2:45:13] Speaker 1: Facts.
[2:45:14] Speaker 7: Right?
[2:45:14] Speaker 1: Facts.
[2:45:14] Speaker 6: It's, it's, it's, I'm here to score. You here to
[2:45:18] Speaker 6: play defense.
[2:45:19] Speaker 2: Do your job. I do my goddamn job.
[2:45:21] Speaker 1: Right?
[2:45:21] Speaker 2: Step is looking at like.
[2:45:23] Speaker 4: I average 30.
[2:45:25] Speaker 2: Gary Payton, you play the defense, all right?
[2:45:27] Speaker 6: I'll try here and there, but I get paid to
[2:45:29] Speaker 6: put the ball in the basket.
[2:45:30] Speaker 2: You get paid to stop it from going.
[2:45:32] Speaker 6: Everybody looking to do their own goddamn job.
[2:45:35] Speaker 4: Clay, you two-way, so they expect you to.
[2:45:37] Speaker 1: Do a little bit of both.
[2:45:38] Speaker 4: Draymond, do you.
[2:45:42] Speaker 6: Whatever you do to help us win, smack somebody, kick
[2:45:45] Speaker 6: the ref, kick the play, do you, all right?
[2:45:47] Speaker 2: It's working, and that's just, all right?
[2:45:50] Speaker 4: Just let me do my job, you do.
[2:45:51] Speaker 2: Your goddamn job.
[2:45:53] Speaker 3: And on that note, good place to stop today. Always
[2:45:57] Speaker 3: enjoy spirited conversations here in Gil's Arena.
[2:46:00] Speaker 2: Appreciate all y'all. Lexi, great to have you back on
[2:46:03] Speaker 2: the couch. I fucked up.
[2:46:05] Speaker 1: What happened?
[2:46:06] Speaker 4: Uh-oh.
[2:46:07] Speaker 2: Y'all got me.
[2:46:08] Speaker 4: I know y'all probably already posted this shit earlier, but.
[2:46:10] Speaker 2: What happened?
[2:46:11] Speaker 1: About what?
[2:46:12] Speaker 2: Y'all was kiki-ing and laughing and shit.
[2:46:15] Speaker 5: About the specialist?
[2:46:16] Speaker 4: Yeah, I ain't like.
[2:46:19] Speaker 4: Paulo!
[2:46:22] Speaker 2: And on that note, this has been another episode of
[2:46:25] Speaker 2: Gil's Arena presented by Underdog.
[2:46:26] Speaker 1: We will see y'all tomorrow.

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