# KD Claps Back At Mat Ishbia, PG Finds His LOVE Again In Boston & SGA's MVP THREE-PEAT Chase! Part 2

An episode of [Gil's Arena](https://invisiblenetwork.ai/podcast/1689097415), 21 Oct 2026, 1 h 20 min.

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Gilbert Arenas, DeMarcus Cousins, Brendan Haywood, Danny Green and Josiah Johnson bring you the best NBA show on the planet! This episode the couch discusses Ben Simmons Season ending injury, Wemby and Chet rivalry, Paul George hot start + more! Presented by Polymarket - the world's largest prediction market. Use code ARENA when you sign up for a $50 bonus with a qualifying deposit of $10. https://app.polymarket.us/S8ac/ARENA 18+ Only. Restrictions and eligibility requirements apply. Not available in all jurisdictions. Trading is risky. 100% loss can occur. See http://polymarket.com/tos for more information. The Polymarket US App serves as an independent software provider and affiliate of Polymarket US and Polymarket Clearing, the CFTC-regulated exchange and clearing organization. Follow Gil's Arena on socials: Instagram - https://www.instagram.com/gilsarena0/ Facebook https://www.facebook.com/GilsArena0 Threads - https://www.threads.com/@gilsarena0 Twitter/X - https://x.com/GilsArenaShow Twitch - https://www.twitch.tv/gilsarenashow TikTok - https://www.tiktok.com/@gilsarena Timestamps: 0:00 - Ben Simmons season ending Achilles injury 15:50 - Thunder Vs Spurs Rematch 42:39 - Paul George finds his love for the game again 56:06 - NBA Season Predictions (Timestamps may vary based on ads) See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

## Transcript

[0:00] Speaker 1: All right, well, let's keep this thing moving. Let's keep
[0:03] Speaker 1: this thing moving. I can't give him too much credit, man.
[0:05] Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying?
[0:07] Speaker 2: So Ben Simmons, NBA comeback, took a devastating turn this
[0:11] Speaker 2: weekend as a former number one pick. Suffered a torn
[0:13] Speaker 2: right Achilles tendon during practice Sunday with the Kings. Expected
[0:17] Speaker 2: to be out for the entire season. Injury comes on
[0:19] Speaker 2: the heels of Simmons ending preseason with his best game.
[0:22] Speaker 2: He put up 14 points, eight rebounds, seven assists, and
[0:25] Speaker 2: 26 minutes of action against the Spurs this past Friday.
[0:28] Speaker 2: So Simmons was injured during a live practice drill. Will
[0:31] Speaker 2: undergo surgery. He was preparing to make his comeback to
[0:33] Speaker 2: the league after taking last season off to get his
[0:36] Speaker 2: mind and body right. Sacramento signed Ben Simmons to a
[0:39] Speaker 2: one-year $ 3. 5 million contract in September. They will keep him
[0:43] Speaker 2: on the roster this season with his salary fully guaranteed
[0:45] Speaker 2: due to that injury. He was expected to provide experienced
[0:49] Speaker 2: ball handling and defensive versatility alongside rookie guard Darius Acuff Jr.
[0:54] Speaker 2: And according to a report from Anscapes, Mark Spears, Kings
[0:57] Speaker 2: head coach Doug Christie was going to make Simmons one
[0:59] Speaker 2: of the Kings team captains before that injury went down.
[1:03] Speaker 2: So on his IG story, Simmons vowed to bounce back saying,
[1:07] Speaker 2: I faced challenges before that tested me mentally, physically, and emotionally,
[1:10] Speaker 2: and I found a way through every single one of them.
[1:13] Speaker 2: This injury is another chapter in my journey, not the
[1:15] Speaker 2: end of my story. Never easy being away from the
[1:18] Speaker 2: game I love, especially after everything it took to get
[1:20] Speaker 2: back here. But if there's one thing I've learned is
[1:23] Speaker 2: that adversity doesn't define you. How you respond to it does.
[1:26] Speaker 2: I've been knocked down before. I've always found a way
[1:28] Speaker 2: to get back up. This time will be no different. So, Danny,
[1:32] Speaker 2: we're going to start with you on this one. What's
[1:34] Speaker 2: your reaction to Ben Simmons suffering a season-ending Achilles injury?
[1:38] Speaker 3: Man, a very tough break. The timing of it couldn't
[1:41] Speaker 3: be any worse. They just dropped the, you know, shout-out
[1:45] Speaker 3: to Mark Spears. He did the E60 or whatever you
[1:48] Speaker 3: want to call it, the sit-down about Ben. You know,
[1:51] Speaker 3: that was his guy. And I did the sit-down. I
[1:54] Speaker 3: spoke on it. And when he was at his best,
[1:57] Speaker 3: he was really good. People forget because of all the
[1:59] Speaker 3: stuff that came after, left a stain on his resume.
[2:04] Speaker 3: But when he was at his best, people were comparing
[2:06] Speaker 3: him to LeBron James. You know what I'm saying? He
[2:08] Speaker 3: was an all-star.
[2:09] Speaker 1: He was very good.
[2:10] Speaker 3: And I got a chance to also call the game
[2:11] Speaker 3: when they were here in Sacramento. Doug Christie was very
[2:14] Speaker 3: high on him, even though he didn't play that game.
[2:17] Speaker 3: But he's like, yeah, he's the guy. He's been the vet.
[2:19] Speaker 3: He's been taking guys under his wing, leading, looking healthy,
[2:22] Speaker 3: and kind of setting the table for that group to
[2:25] Speaker 3: kind of show that they have a different type of
[2:28] Speaker 3: culture now. Sacramento's still trying to figure their own identity out.
[2:32] Speaker 3: And Coach Christie was high on Ben, and this was
[2:36] Speaker 3: supposed to be the year of him redeeming himself. And
[2:40] Speaker 3: just as they dropped the docu-series, the documentary, he tears
[2:45] Speaker 3: his Achilles. So it's a tough break. I'm wishing him
[2:47] Speaker 3: speedy recovery, wishing him the best. I know he's still young.
[2:51] Speaker 3: He'll bounce back. But just terrible timing. Boogie, let's shift
[2:56] Speaker 3: over to you. King's legend.
[2:59] Speaker 1: King's legend. I'm not going to say the other word
[3:01] Speaker 1: that Swaggy said. King's legend. Y'all killing me.
[3:04] Speaker 2: I'm not going to say the nickname for our state's captain.
[3:07] Speaker 4: But it is unfortunate, man. I was excited for the return.
[3:11] Speaker 4: I was excited for his opportunity. It looked like he
[3:16] Speaker 4: was getting back to the Ben Simmons that, you know,
[3:19] Speaker 4: we fell in.
[3:19] Speaker 1: Love with as a player.
[3:23] Speaker 4: I wanted to see the show, and I also thought
[3:25] Speaker 4: he had a really good opportunity with a franchise that
[3:28] Speaker 4: was kind of looking for a bright spot outside of
[3:32] Speaker 4: Acuff as a player. So I think Ben was presenting
[3:35] Speaker 4: himself as that, and I also think they were kind
[3:38] Speaker 4: of positioning themselves to kind of be a surprise team
[3:42] Speaker 4: this year.
[3:43] Speaker 1: I'm not going out saying I.
[3:44] Speaker 4: Think they're a playoff team or anything like that, but
[3:48] Speaker 4: I think they were going to show us something that,
[3:51] Speaker 4: you know, we weren't really expecting from this group this year. So,
[3:55] Speaker 4: you know, I hate to see this situation for him.
[3:59] Speaker 4: I hope the time off that kind of helped him
[4:01] Speaker 4: get back to this place of, you know, joy. I
[4:05] Speaker 4: hope he can get back to whatever foundation helped him
[4:07] Speaker 4: get to that in this next moment of, you know,
[4:10] Speaker 4: kind of being away from the game. But on the
[4:13] Speaker 4: bright side of things, you know, we're now in a
[4:15] Speaker 4: time where we're seeing dudes bounce back from these Achilles injuries. Like, No,
[4:19] Speaker 4: these motherfuckers look like ankle sprains now compared to even
[4:23] Speaker 4: when I did mine. So that is the bright side
[4:26] Speaker 4: of this, and that's the good news of this. You know,
[4:29] Speaker 4: it sucks being away from the game. But, you know,
[4:33] Speaker 4: there is light at the end of the tunnel. I
[4:35] Speaker 4: hope he can stay strong mentally, stay locked in mentally.
[4:39] Speaker 4: And we still want to see you come back and
[4:40] Speaker 4: be the player that you were.
[4:41] Speaker 1: You know what I mean?
[4:42] Speaker 4: I think you still had that opportunity. Still got a
[4:44] Speaker 4: lot of basketball in front of you. But, you know,
[4:47] Speaker 4: lock in. You know, take your time away. But we
[4:51] Speaker 4: want to see you back on the court. So I
[4:52] Speaker 4: hope it doesn't get to a point where, you know,
[4:55] Speaker 4: he decides to walk away from me.
[4:57] Speaker 1: Oh, whatever.
[4:57] Speaker 4: You never know what a guy going through mentally. So
[5:00] Speaker 4: to kind of get it back to back, that's tough.
[5:02] Speaker 1: You know what I mean? So I just want him
[5:04] Speaker 1: to stay in a place of positivity, and we want
[5:07] Speaker 1: to see you get back on the floor.
[5:09] Speaker 5: I think everybody here just, you know, when you watch
[5:11] Speaker 5: Ben's story of, like, what we thought he was going
[5:13] Speaker 5: to be and then how the career just went downhill
[5:17] Speaker 5: and everything that went along with it, And then it
[5:21] Speaker 5: was looking like this was going to be a great
[5:22] Speaker 5: turnaround story. And so we just, like I was watching
[5:26] Speaker 5: him some of those games, I was like, is that
[5:27] Speaker 5: the same Ben Simmons?
[5:28] Speaker 1: He looks way more confident offensively. He does.
[5:30] Speaker 5: Like he just looked like he had, I don't know
[5:32] Speaker 5: where he got the confidence from. You just talked about
[5:34] Speaker 5: that confidence. He found his. And so even though he's hurt,
[5:40] Speaker 5: I wish him a speedy recovery. I hope he comes
[5:42] Speaker 5: back and I hope he has that same confidence that
[5:44] Speaker 5: he had in his preseason. He brings that back next
[5:46] Speaker 5: season because we do know that Ben Simmons can dominate
[5:50] Speaker 5: the game in so many different ways.
[5:51] Speaker 1: He can dominate.
[5:52] Speaker 5: Rebounding, passing, just the way he pushes the tempo and
[5:56] Speaker 5: gets that ball off the rim and gets it out.
[5:59] Speaker 5: That means something. So he has a lot to offer
[6:01] Speaker 5: the game of basketball. And this setback shouldn't define him.
[6:06] Speaker 5: I can't wait to see the next chapter.
[6:08] Speaker 2: Let's move on to you. Obviously, Ben Simmons making his
[6:12] Speaker 2: return with the Kings. A lot of high expectations. His
[6:16] Speaker 2: love for the game question amongst other things. He said
[6:17] Speaker 2: that was all BS. Ready to come back through and
[6:20] Speaker 2: improve something.
[6:21] Speaker 1: Don't say that stupid thing.
[6:23] Speaker 6: Don't say that stupid thing. It's everyone who got injured
[6:31] Speaker 6: and you understand where he's at mentally. This reminds me
[6:36] Speaker 6: of when Derrick Rose twisted his ankle when he was
[6:38] Speaker 6: in Cleveland. I can't do this.
[6:40] Speaker 1: I'm gone.
[6:40] Speaker 6: Because you've sat at home With your own thoughts. Questioning
[6:51] Speaker 6: your ability. Questioning if this is it. Are you going
[6:53] Speaker 6: to ever get back to this game? You get to
[6:57] Speaker 6: a point where hope.
[6:59] Speaker 1: Hope hits. You start feeling good. Oh, I'm not sore. Okay, yeah.
[7:04] Speaker 1: You go in. He's watching it in real time. Oh, shit.
[7:08] Speaker 6: Getting the praises.
[7:10] Speaker 1: To then get knocked down. The hope.
[7:14] Speaker 6: Like, that's what I hate about it. It's like I
[7:16] Speaker 6: used to ask, yo, just let me just fuck it
[7:19] Speaker 6: up so I don't get recovery.
[7:20] Speaker 1: Like, there's too much fucking hope here. Right. Get rid
[7:23] Speaker 1: of the hope.
[7:23] Speaker 6: I don't want to work my way all the way
[7:26] Speaker 6: back to to where I'm feeling great for me to
[7:29] Speaker 6: keep getting hindered. Like, you started questioning, is there a
[7:34] Speaker 6: motherfucking God up there?
[7:35] Speaker 1: Like, why me? You're doing that. I know he's doing it.
[7:39] Speaker 1: We all did.
[7:40] Speaker 6: Why me?
[7:40] Speaker 1: Why the fuck me? What am I doing? I done
[7:42] Speaker 1: cleansed my house. I just looked at that motherfucking girl. Ah,
[7:45] Speaker 1: you know what I mean? God don't want you in
[7:47] Speaker 1: my life.
[7:47] Speaker 6: You're finding anything to get back cleansed so you can
[7:52] Speaker 6: just move straight. It's like you're questioning, why are you
[7:58] Speaker 6: keep hitting a hurdle? What are you doing wrong in
[8:01] Speaker 6: your life?
[8:02] Speaker 1: Right.
[8:03] Speaker 6: And it's like, damn, you can see he look better,
[8:07] Speaker 6: look good, ready to go.
[8:08] Speaker 1: And you're saying, God damn practice.
[8:10] Speaker 3: Yeah.
[8:11] Speaker 1: Not a game.
[8:12] Speaker 6: You know, practice and not a cramp. Not like I'm them.
[8:18] Speaker 6: I'm out for a whole fucking other year. Like, yeah. Like,
[8:25] Speaker 6: I want people to play their whole, like, I want
[8:28] Speaker 6: to see who you are, who you was. I want
[8:30] Speaker 6: you to be able to have your full, like, I
[8:32] Speaker 6: don't like that what if or what if.
[8:34] Speaker 1: Grant Hill didn't get hurt, what if Penny, I hate
[8:37] Speaker 1: Derek Rose.
[8:38] Speaker 6: I want a world where nobody gets hurt. Everybody just
[8:41] Speaker 6: plays so we can see who's the best of the best. Right?
[8:44] Speaker 6: And it's just, obviously, that's not the game, but. When
[8:47] Speaker 6: you're coming back, man, I love the comeback story. I
[8:50] Speaker 6: want Holly to go back to where it goes.
[8:52] Speaker 1: You know what I mean?
[8:52] Speaker 6: You want Dame to go back and do what he does.
[8:55] Speaker 6: Ben Simmons is one of those guys, too.
[8:56] Speaker 1: I agree.
[8:59] Speaker 6: Bam. Let me hear what your own thoughts, man.
[9:02] Speaker 2: We don't want to talk about the what-ifs, but, Dane,
[9:04] Speaker 2: like you talked about and spoke on, Ben Simmons wants
[9:05] Speaker 2: a three-time All-Star. Obviously, elite defender, one of the most
[9:08] Speaker 2: promising young players in basketball. You talked about the LeBron
[9:11] Speaker 2: James comparisons early on in his career. But when you
[9:14] Speaker 2: just think about it, just how sad is the what-ifs
[9:18] Speaker 2: side of the Ben Simmons and what he could have
[9:19] Speaker 2: been versus him.
[9:20] Speaker 3: Yeah, like where does it rank? Man, I mean, again,
[9:25] Speaker 3: he's got to be probably one of the top ten
[9:26] Speaker 3: what ifs, right? If you have, you know, you got
[9:29] Speaker 3: Grant Hill, D. Rose, T-Mac, Brandon Roy. Who you got?
[9:35] Speaker 1: Cus? Okay.
[9:36] Speaker 3: Hey, hey, hey, hey.
[9:38] Speaker 4: Hey, hey, hey. I don't never get my name thrown in.
[9:42] Speaker 4: I ain't really complete my seat.
[9:44] Speaker 3: Nah, but he's probably in the top ten of biggest
[9:46] Speaker 3: like what ifs. But he still has time. He's only 30.
[9:52] Speaker 3: One year, obviously not in the prime, but for what
[9:56] Speaker 3: he does, he can be very effective and efficient because
[9:59] Speaker 3: he's he's a big man i can handle the ball
[10:01] Speaker 3: and play point guard he can set screens and roll
[10:03] Speaker 3: and play the draymond role he can dho he can
[10:06] Speaker 3: throw it ahead he can defend positions you know two
[10:10] Speaker 3: through four or two through five five yeah one through
[10:13] Speaker 3: five um so you know he has an advantage because
[10:17] Speaker 3: he's so coordinated at that size So I said, I
[10:21] Speaker 3: hope he bounces back. I hope he gets back to
[10:23] Speaker 3: where he was. But this is a big what if because, again,
[10:27] Speaker 3: he was on the trajectory of, you know, he had
[10:30] Speaker 3: the masses talking about him. Like I said, LeBron James,
[10:33] Speaker 3: step aside. We're okay. Only one person said that. Keep cooking.
[10:37] Speaker 3: You know, people were comparing him to Bron, man, and
[10:41] Speaker 3: he could do a lot of things at 6'10. Like I.
[10:44] Speaker 5: Said, he just got to make, like, to Gil's point,
[10:48] Speaker 5: When you come back from rehab and you know, he knows,
[10:52] Speaker 5: there's some dark days.
[10:54] Speaker 1: He just can't let those dark days... Your support system.
[10:56] Speaker 3: The rehab time is a pain in the ass, bro.
[10:59] Speaker 5: Your support system needs to be good, positivity around you,
[11:02] Speaker 5: and you can't fall victim to them voices in your head. Like,
[11:04] Speaker 5: my son got me watching them Spider-Man movies.
[11:06] Speaker 1: What's the character?
[11:07] Speaker 5: The hobgoblin that got the little evil dude talking in
[11:10] Speaker 5: his ear?
[11:10] Speaker 1: You can't listen to the evil goblin!
[11:13] Speaker 5: You got to figure out, all right, listen, I know
[11:16] Speaker 5: there's these doubts... But man, every day just, let's be
[11:20] Speaker 5: better today than I was yesterday.
[11:21] Speaker 3: Show up.
[11:22] Speaker 5: Because when you got the surgery and you first... Can
[11:25] Speaker 5: barely move around.
[11:26] Speaker 1: It's humbling. You used to fly all around. Waking up
[11:29] Speaker 1: all day.
[11:29] Speaker 3: Yeah.
[11:30] Speaker 5: I used to used to fly all around the court.
[11:32] Speaker 5: And now all of a sudden somebody got to help
[11:34] Speaker 5: you get to the bathroom.
[11:35] Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying?
[11:36] Speaker 1: You got the little school. Hey, hey, can you help
[11:38] Speaker 1: me shower?
[11:39] Speaker 5: That's a humbling feeling when I was just out there
[11:42] Speaker 5: performing in front of twenty five thousand. So you can't
[11:45] Speaker 5: let the voices get to you because them voices will
[11:47] Speaker 5: be like, what if I never get back? how long
[11:50] Speaker 5: is it going to take me to get back from this?
[11:53] Speaker 5: You just got to fight that.
[11:54] Speaker 3: I don't know.
[11:54] Speaker 5: I don't got the recipe or the way that you
[11:58] Speaker 5: fight it, but you got to fight them voices out
[12:00] Speaker 5: your head in that moment.
[12:01] Speaker 1: You got to surround yourself with positivity.
[12:04] Speaker 3: Just keep showing up to rehab. 80% of the battles,
[12:06] Speaker 3: showing up to rehab, bro.
[12:07] Speaker 1: That is true.
[12:08] Speaker 3: Just showing up because it'll get you in the right
[12:10] Speaker 3: frame of mind.
[12:11] Speaker 1: All right, well, let's keep this thing moving. NBA season. Hey,
[12:16] Speaker 1: Paul George out there kicking they ass.
[12:18] Speaker 2: I want to point that out.
[12:20] Speaker 1: 17 and a half. Okay. You know I'm looking. Word. Yeah,
[12:24] Speaker 1: he got 17 and a half.
[12:25] Speaker 2: 17 and three rebounds. Move over, Tatum. Five for nine
[12:29] Speaker 2: from the field.
[12:29] Speaker 1: Three for five. I'm the captain now. Relax, my boy.
[12:32] Speaker 3: You need to relax. It's time to love again.
[12:34] Speaker 1: Hey, I ain't going to lie.
[12:35] Speaker 6: It's that line.
[12:37] Speaker 1: 17-0 assists? Oh, nigga, that's the type of nigga I like.
[12:39] Speaker 5: That's the type of brother you was.
[12:41] Speaker 6: 17-0, that's what you mean?
[12:45] Speaker 1: That's the type of brother you like. That was you. Swing, swing.
[12:49] Speaker 3: Jalen Dern hooping, too, right now.
[12:51] Speaker 1: Yeah.
[12:51] Speaker 2: We're going to talk Paul George in a moment, but
[12:54] Speaker 2: we got two other games on the schedule before we
[12:56] Speaker 2: move on, though.
[12:57] Speaker 1: NBA, 3 p.m. Celtics-Pistons game. You know Gil's Arena's on.
[13:03] Speaker 3: Yeah.
[13:04] Speaker 1: You know Gil's Arena is on. Yeah, usually you do
[13:06] Speaker 1: this to, like, the weak teams. Like, you know what?
[13:09] Speaker 1: Usually this would have been a New York. Now it's
[13:13] Speaker 1: opening day. New York, Philly.
[13:14] Speaker 6: This would have been that if they didn't win the championship.
[13:16] Speaker 6: That's like that Christmas game, right? Opening day game. Christmas
[13:20] Speaker 6: game at 6 a.m.
[13:21] Speaker 1: Adam Silver, you know niggas is at work. Everything's trying
[13:24] Speaker 1: to be global now.
[13:25] Speaker 5: Is this the first time they've done this? Like, a three, like, no, like.
[13:28] Speaker 5: If you're going to have a 3 p.m. game, it's
[13:30] Speaker 5: like a Saturday or something, like a Sunday. A 3 p.m.
[13:33] Speaker 5: soft Tuesday game is mad.
[13:35] Speaker 1: Weird, isn't it?
[13:35] Speaker 6: Yeah, I was looking at it. I'm sitting here looking.
[13:38] Speaker 6: I'm like, wait, is there a game going on? I'm
[13:40] Speaker 6: going to get out of bed before 2.30.
[13:41] Speaker 1: I know that arena. Nah, it's probably sold out. Hell yeah. Oh, Detroit?
[13:45] Speaker 3: Yeah.
[13:45] Speaker 6: They ain't got no drives over there.
[13:49] Speaker 1: What? Wow. Wow.
[13:51] Speaker 5: Why would you say that?
[13:53] Speaker 6: I got this on beef with Detroit.
[13:55] Speaker 1: What?
[13:55] Speaker 6: Anytime I can just throw a shot at them for
[13:57] Speaker 6: no reason.
[13:58] Speaker 1: They got the whole motor industry out there.
[14:01] Speaker 2: Detroit, this is Gil's personal beef.
[14:03] Speaker 1: We love the city. Yo, I'm not allowed, Davis. I
[14:05] Speaker 1: don't want that smoke. I don't want that smoke. No, yeah,
[14:07] Speaker 1: I can't even fly there. Oh, you can't? Yeah, yeah, yeah.
[14:10] Speaker 6: Okay.
[14:10] Speaker 1: No doubt. Yeah, yeah, yeah. TSA said it with my ass.
[14:14] Speaker 6: So I can't even stop over there.
[14:18] Speaker 1: No layover.
[14:19] Speaker 6: Been banned from there. Just all the surrounding states.
[14:23] Speaker 2: I appreciate you all the chat that's here. All the
[14:25] Speaker 2: chat that's here is still supporting Gil's Arena, even though
[14:26] Speaker 2: Adam Silver tried to hate on our flow, put a
[14:29] Speaker 2: game at the same time as Gil's Arena. Go ahead
[14:30] Speaker 2: and hit that like button to let Adam Silver know
[14:33] Speaker 2: that we're not with the bullshit. Start these games at
[14:35] Speaker 2: a reasonable hour when everybody's done with work. Stop trying
[14:37] Speaker 2: to cater to the global market.
[14:39] Speaker 1: Mm-hmm. You got Boston fans.
[14:41] Speaker 6: Pistons fans.
[14:43] Speaker 1: You got to watch.
[14:44] Speaker 6: I think I'm around five to seven.
[14:47] Speaker 1: What if stories? Your rank is five to seven? Five
[14:51] Speaker 1: to seven.
[14:52] Speaker 3: Okay.
[14:52] Speaker 1: Three All-NBAs before 25? I can see that.
[14:55] Speaker 2: Same age as Dalton Kinnick. You're trying to say he
[14:59] Speaker 2: was old?
[15:00] Speaker 1: He was old. They got Rose at one. Penny at two.
[15:06] Speaker 1: Grant Hill got to be three. Grant Hill three. Mm-hmm.
[15:10] Speaker 1: They have Brandon Roy. Brandon Roy, yeah. Me or T-Mac
[15:15] Speaker 1: at that 4-5. Is Arvita Sabonis on the list, Gil? No,
[15:19] Speaker 1: he's probably not on the list. Because he was called.
[15:22] Speaker 1: How old did he come in? Like 30, 31? He
[15:24] Speaker 1: came in super old.
[15:25] Speaker 6: How the fuck do we supposed to know he came
[15:26] Speaker 6: in at 30 years old?
[15:27] Speaker 2: With the janky knee. He was in the Soviet block.
[15:29] Speaker 2: He wasn't allowed out that Soviet block. But my pop
[15:31] Speaker 2: said he was like dunking a free throw line back
[15:33] Speaker 2: in the day.
[15:33] Speaker 3: They got Yao on there?
[15:34] Speaker 1: Before he blew his knees out.
[15:36] Speaker 5: That's another one. Before them feet gave out, Yao was
[15:38] Speaker 5: a problem. We talked about that the other day.
[15:40] Speaker 1: Legionnaire, yep.
[15:41] Speaker 5: He asked me, who was my toughest guard outside of Shaq?
[15:43] Speaker 5: I was like, Yao Ming.
[15:46] Speaker 2: But before we talk about PG, Celtics want to let
[15:48] Speaker 2: that game play out a little bit more.
[15:49] Speaker 1: Yeah, Bill Walton had the janky jank. Them two.
[15:52] Speaker 2: So Thunder and Spurs opened the season. Thunder and Spurs
[15:55] Speaker 2: opened their season tonight in San Antonio with a Western
[15:58] Speaker 2: Conference Finals rematch. Spurs ended the Thunder's attempt to go
[16:01] Speaker 2: back-to-back last season, winning Game 7 in OKC, which was
[16:05] Speaker 2: a nightmare for Chet Holmgren after making an All-NBA and
[16:08] Speaker 2: All-Star team. Holmgren scored just four points and had four
[16:11] Speaker 2: rebounds with only two field goal attempts and nearly 33
[16:14] Speaker 2: minutes of action. Meanwhile, Victor Wiminyama, also known as Wamba Wamba,
[16:18] Speaker 2: led the Spurs with 22 points on their way to
[16:20] Speaker 2: winning the West. with the alien dominating the series against Holmgren.
[16:24] Speaker 2: So Chet Holmgren was recently interviewed by Chris Mannix of
[16:27] Speaker 2: Sports Illustrated and shared that his approach after the series
[16:30] Speaker 2: and the season was to disassociate from the emotions of it.
[16:34] Speaker 2: He went on to add, It definitely took me a
[16:36] Speaker 2: couple weeks to sit there and reflect and think all
[16:39] Speaker 2: that shit was for nothing. When you lose, it feels
[16:41] Speaker 2: like it was all for nothing because at the end
[16:42] Speaker 2: of the day, you don't put all that effing work
[16:45] Speaker 2: in just to lose. You put all that work in
[16:47] Speaker 2: to try and reach the top, and when you don't
[16:49] Speaker 2: get there, You can feel like it's a complete failure. So,
[16:52] Speaker 2: Holmgren was also asked about Wimby taking their rivalry personally
[16:56] Speaker 2: and responded, that's a question for him. He hasn't really
[16:59] Speaker 2: spoke much about it. Obviously, Wimby's been taking shots. So,
[17:03] Speaker 2: Chet now entering his fourth year with the Thunder. Holmgren
[17:06] Speaker 2: and his OKC teammates are playing the role of hunters
[17:08] Speaker 2: again after losing to the Spurs.
[17:10] Speaker 1: You said he's done. He done.
[17:11] Speaker 3: He gonna fight back, man. He gonna fight back.
[17:13] Speaker 1: Nah. It's not fair to him, man.
[17:15] Speaker 3: He gotta fight back.
[17:16] Speaker 4: I just feel like Obviously, these guys have had a
[17:20] Speaker 4: history as far as matching up, coming up, you know,
[17:23] Speaker 4: as young boys in this game. But the situations are
[17:27] Speaker 4: totally different. What Wimby is allowed to do for the Spurs,
[17:32] Speaker 4: Chad would never be allowed to do any.
[17:33] Speaker 1: Of that with OKC.
[17:35] Speaker 4: So to sit here and try to match them up
[17:37] Speaker 4: based off numbers and performance-wise, I feel like Wimby is
[17:41] Speaker 4: always going to have the upper hand because this is
[17:43] Speaker 4: a guy that's getting 20, 25 shots a game compared
[17:46] Speaker 4: to a guy that's considered– Third option maybe on OKC.
[17:51] Speaker 4: He's really a role player. Yeah, he may get eight
[17:54] Speaker 4: to ten shots a game on a nightly basis. So
[17:58] Speaker 4: I just think it's unfair as far as the comparison.
[18:02] Speaker 4: But what I don't like is it's kind of almost
[18:06] Speaker 4: the same approach I felt like he had when they
[18:09] Speaker 4: were matching up in the offs. I felt like Chet
[18:12] Speaker 4: kind of tucked his tail when shit started getting rough.
[18:15] Speaker 1: Yeah.
[18:17] Speaker 4: I feel like he got to embrace that challenge because
[18:18] Speaker 4: I think they're going to always be compared. It's going
[18:20] Speaker 4: to always be his matchup. It's no different than him
[18:23] Speaker 4: going to Cleveland, having to match up with Evan Mobley.
[18:26] Speaker 4: Those are the guys you're going to always match up
[18:28] Speaker 4: with no matter who you're playing in the league. So
[18:32] Speaker 4: I think he has to embrace that challenge. And I'm
[18:35] Speaker 4: a fan of Chet. I was a fan of him
[18:36] Speaker 4: coming out of Gonzaga. I think he's a highly talented guy.
[18:39] Speaker 4: But I think for now and what they're looking for
[18:43] Speaker 4: from him with OKC, I think he gains his confidence.
[18:46] Speaker 4: I've said this before. He has to work on his body.
[18:49] Speaker 4: He has got to work on his body. He has
[18:51] Speaker 4: to get stronger. I feel like the stronger he becomes
[18:54] Speaker 4: as a player, the more confident he'll become as a player.
[18:57] Speaker 4: Because like I said, at the end of the day,
[18:59] Speaker 4: all the things that you're good at, which made you
[19:01] Speaker 4: a top five pick in this league, you're not going
[19:03] Speaker 4: to get the opportunity to display it with the group
[19:06] Speaker 4: you win. Maybe down the line, you know, God forbid,
[19:09] Speaker 4: you know, you end up with another group or something
[19:10] Speaker 4: like that. You may be pushed to that number one option.
[19:13] Speaker 4: But as of right now, you'll never be able to
[19:14] Speaker 4: display it. But what you can do is embrace the
[19:17] Speaker 4: challenge when you match up with Wimby. Show who you
[19:19] Speaker 4: are on the defensive end and just meet them.
[19:22] Speaker 1: You got to meet that challenge straight up, head up.
[19:25] Speaker 1: That's your job.
[19:26] Speaker 4: And no matter how you try to twist the story,
[19:29] Speaker 4: we're all going to look at you to be the
[19:31] Speaker 4: guy to control that monster on the other end.
[19:34] Speaker 1: That's your job. And obviously it's a team thing. We
[19:37] Speaker 1: look for the support of the guys. But head up.
[19:40] Speaker 2: We're looking for you to embrace that challenge. But looking
[19:42] Speaker 2: to your point, Chet has been working on his body.
[19:44] Speaker 2: He was 213 pounds last season. He's now 215 pounds. Yeah,
[19:47] Speaker 2: that ain't going to cut it.
[19:48] Speaker 1: Put on two pounds. That ain't going to cut it.
[19:50] Speaker 6: It.
[19:50] Speaker 1: Get my dog some Ensure, some protein shakes. Bro, what? Yeah,
[19:56] Speaker 1: take that shit back.
[19:57] Speaker 4: Before practice, the homies are trying to put weight on back,
[20:01] Speaker 4: and they eating peanut butter at the joint before practice.
[20:03] Speaker 3: Yeah, you got peanut butter and jelly sandwich in between.
[20:05] Speaker 1: I do the same thing.
[20:07] Speaker 4: And I'm not expecting him to go put on 40
[20:09] Speaker 4: pounds of muscle, but if we can take, what, 210, 215,
[20:12] Speaker 4: we take it up to 225, 230, I think that's
[20:15] Speaker 4: a confident player.
[20:16] Speaker 3: I mean, when we gained like 20 pounds last offseason, right?
[20:19] Speaker 1: Who did?
[20:21] Speaker 3: I think Wimby put on 20 pounds.
[20:22] Speaker 1: Wimby has put on weight every season, so I know.
[20:26] Speaker 3: It's possible.
[20:26] Speaker 4: And every year he's gotten more and more confident in
[20:29] Speaker 4: his body. It's the same thing with Chet.
[20:31] Speaker 5: I think to a certain degree, though, you're saying like
[20:35] Speaker 5: they're not going to run certain stuff for him. But
[20:40] Speaker 5: I think to your point, if he got stronger, I
[20:42] Speaker 5: think they would. We play in a switchable league. Everything
[20:47] Speaker 5: is switching.
[20:48] Speaker 3: Yep.
[20:49] Speaker 5: If Chet, instead of being, would you say he weighs now?
[20:51] Speaker 1: 215 pounds. 215, okay.
[20:54] Speaker 5: If let's just say that we took that to 230,
[20:56] Speaker 5: he was stronger, he could hold his spot. Could you
[20:59] Speaker 5: imagine we run the pick and roll, they switch. You know,
[21:02] Speaker 5: Shea ain't selfish. Oh, yo, yo, big fella, you got
[21:04] Speaker 5: somebody 6'5 on you? Run right there and no, no, no.
[21:08] Speaker 5: Play like a big, though. Don't tween, tween me to death.
[21:11] Speaker 5: Catch it right here. One bounce, get to a bump fade.
[21:14] Speaker 5: Your turnaround jumper. Do those type of things. Hold your
[21:17] Speaker 5: position because there's a world where there's more opportunity... for
[21:21] Speaker 5: Chet to take it, but he got to your point.
[21:23] Speaker 5: He got to be stronger to go get it. Because now,
[21:26] Speaker 5: we can go guard him with small guys.
[21:28] Speaker 1: Exactly. We can guard him with anybody on the floor. Exactly.
[21:30] Speaker 5: That's what happened even when Wimby wasn't guarding him.
[21:33] Speaker 1: Anthony Edwards weighed more than this motherfucker. Anthony Edwards, 225. Exactly.
[21:35] Speaker 5: He played a two. Even when Chet, even like I said,
[21:39] Speaker 5: you go watch, watch when they play. they're never afraid
[21:42] Speaker 5: to put anybody on him from a pick-and-roll standpoint because
[21:47] Speaker 5: he's not going to run to the low block. He's
[21:49] Speaker 5: not going to run to the mid-post and catch it
[21:51] Speaker 5: and make you feel like, oh, we got to go
[21:53] Speaker 5: double him. So it's like, oh, yeah, we'll switch to
[21:55] Speaker 5: pick-and-roll because we know he's just going to do that.
[21:57] Speaker 5: I think if he gains the weight, there's more opportunity.
[22:00] Speaker 5: With that opportunity and him scoring on bucket, confidence goes
[22:04] Speaker 5: through the roof. Now I've played a year where I'm
[22:06] Speaker 5: a little bit more confident in the mid-post. I'm scoring
[22:08] Speaker 5: a little bit more. I'm a little bit more swollen.
[22:10] Speaker 5: I'm feeling myself Now when you see that big monster,
[22:13] Speaker 5: look him in his eyes and be like, hey, I
[22:15] Speaker 5: ain't the same.
[22:16] Speaker 1: Stop it. Stop that. I got a good point going, Boogie.
[22:22] Speaker 1: Are you messing me up? You fucked me up. I did.
[22:24] Speaker 5: I had to pause myself.
[22:26] Speaker 1: But anyway. Hey, chill out. Chill out, Boogie. You're throwing
[22:30] Speaker 1: me off. My fault. My fault. I'm 46. I'm too
[22:32] Speaker 1: old for the pause game. But what I'm basically saying is.
[22:36] Speaker 5: When you're looking Wimby eye to eye, now that you
[22:39] Speaker 5: have your confidence up, it's like, yeah, I ain't little
[22:41] Speaker 5: no more.
[22:42] Speaker 1: I'm here.
[22:42] Speaker 5: We're not expecting you to go out there and do
[22:44] Speaker 5: what Wimby does. But then there's a level of you
[22:46] Speaker 5: got to take that matchup personal.
[22:49] Speaker 6: Yes.
[22:49] Speaker 3: There's a level of fight, man.
[22:51] Speaker 5: We were talking on the ride back home yesterday. I'm like,
[22:53] Speaker 5: if I had to guard you, I knew I wasn't
[22:55] Speaker 5: getting shot. I still had to go guard. I got
[22:57] Speaker 5: to take this personal. Like, yeah, I got first time.
[22:59] Speaker 5: A big cut on the perimeter.
[23:00] Speaker 3: Whoa, whoa, whoa.
[23:01] Speaker 1: Hold on now. He's trying to rock me to sleep.
[23:03] Speaker 1: All right.
[23:03] Speaker 5: Let me figure out how I'm going to do certain things.
[23:05] Speaker 5: I know I'm not going to outscore this guy.
[23:07] Speaker 1: I just got to make. I got to make him
[23:08] Speaker 1: respect the fact that... I got to make his job hard.
[23:11] Speaker 5: Brendan's not going to let me just walk to the post. Nah,
[23:13] Speaker 5: I'm like, nah.
[23:15] Speaker 6: Use all five, six of them bitches.
[23:17] Speaker 1: I respect that.
[23:18] Speaker 5: That's my point. I could never do what you did,
[23:21] Speaker 5: but it's like, Brendan's not going to let me walk
[23:23] Speaker 5: to the post. He's going to make me fight for
[23:25] Speaker 5: this position. It's a different thing. What you talking about?
[23:28] Speaker 5: Ain't nobody worried about that. You just have to basically
[23:33] Speaker 5: get to the point where that guy respects you. Wimby
[23:36] Speaker 5: and Chet, Wimby's always going to be here. Chet's going
[23:38] Speaker 5: to be below him. But right now, Wimby look at
[23:40] Speaker 5: him like food and Chet got to stop that.
[23:42] Speaker 1: I agree.
[23:43] Speaker 3: What was his quote that he wanted to dissociate from
[23:45] Speaker 3: the emotions?
[23:46] Speaker 1: Nah, fuck that. Nah, I want you to fuck that.
[23:49] Speaker 3: Sit with the emotions. Sit with your mom. I don't
[23:51] Speaker 3: know if I'm a fan of that.
[23:52] Speaker 1: Let it marinate.
[23:54] Speaker 3: His season should have started when offseason started.
[23:56] Speaker 1: Dissociate from the emotions of it.
[23:59] Speaker 3: Use those emotions to take it personally and then gain
[24:01] Speaker 3: the weight And again, you're not going to be in
[24:03] Speaker 3: the same room, but you can get closer. You can
[24:05] Speaker 3: fight back. As much as I love the Spurs, I
[24:07] Speaker 3: love Wembley, I want to see competitive basketball. I don't
[24:09] Speaker 3: want to see him just bully the shit out of
[24:11] Speaker 3: Chet every time he sees him.
[24:12] Speaker 2: And does it feel like that's what's going on? That's
[24:14] Speaker 2: what's going on right now.
[24:15] Speaker 6: A skinny nigga bullying a skinny nigga. Y'all talking about
[24:18] Speaker 6: for him to get his confidence, he needs to get
[24:20] Speaker 6: in the weight room.
[24:21] Speaker 1: Yeah.
[24:21] Speaker 6: I don't give a fuck how much you're lifting weights.
[24:26] Speaker 1: If I think you suck, you suck.
[24:28] Speaker 6: Right? The weight room is not going to help you
[24:32] Speaker 6: Gain confidence in a skill area. We played against each
[24:37] Speaker 6: other for a long time. You was defeating me when
[24:41] Speaker 6: we was little. I took it personal. Now I'm beating you.
[24:47] Speaker 6: He needs to take it personal. You're not taking it personal.
[24:49] Speaker 6: I want to disassociate. While the other one's like, there's
[24:52] Speaker 6: no competition.
[24:53] Speaker 1: He sucks. That's what the other one is saying about you.
[24:56] Speaker 1: You suck. This is no competition anymore. You're a little
[25:01] Speaker 1: to me. Boom.
[25:03] Speaker 3: That's what he's doing out there.
[25:09] Speaker 1: Watch when Wimby come out there. He coming out with the.
[25:13] Speaker 6: We've been here before. Every time Wimby score, you need
[25:18] Speaker 6: to tell your teammates.
[25:21] Speaker 1: Give me the ball. Who the fuck you going to
[25:24] Speaker 1: tell that to? The two-time MVP?
[25:26] Speaker 3: Nah.
[25:26] Speaker 7: Yes.
[25:27] Speaker 1: He's not too good. He can't do that.
[25:29] Speaker 3: If he worked on his game, he could. He can't
[25:33] Speaker 3: do that. The weight room helps.
[25:34] Speaker 1: You got to get strong.
[25:35] Speaker 3: You got to work on your game.
[25:36] Speaker 1: You got to do both. Mental. You got to do both.
[25:39] Speaker 1: My number one player.
[25:40] Speaker 4: If you put on 30 pounds of muscle and you
[25:42] Speaker 4: the guy that's getting your ass picked on every day,
[25:44] Speaker 4: you're going to be a little bit confident.
[25:47] Speaker 1: If you're 230 and.
[25:48] Speaker 4: You get down to 215, you're going to be a
[25:50] Speaker 4: little bit more confident than you are.
[25:52] Speaker 1: So unreal. That's not unreal. I have a two-time.
[25:55] Speaker 6: MVP looking at me getting my ass busted. If I
[25:58] Speaker 6: don't call for that rock. He's off me anyway. He's
[26:03] Speaker 6: off me. He's another fucking night. Let's go away from him.
[26:06] Speaker 6: That's what they do. You give me that bitch so
[26:08] Speaker 6: I can pass it to you. That star is looking
[26:11] Speaker 6: at me.
[26:12] Speaker 3: Let me see what you're going to do with it.
[26:14] Speaker 3: Let me see what you're going to do with it.
[26:16] Speaker 3: You don't have to do it that way.
[26:17] Speaker 1: Yes, he do. He needs to prove.
[26:20] Speaker 4: To that man that he can beat him.
[26:23] Speaker 3: Pick and choose.
[26:24] Speaker 5: You're talking about you as a scorer, you as a
[26:27] Speaker 5: confident player. Chet is more a role player than Gilbert Arenas.
[26:32] Speaker 2: He is.
[26:32] Speaker 5: So you're speaking from superstar status when you were averaging 30.
[26:37] Speaker 5: If somebody went at you, you're going to– Chet can't–
[26:40] Speaker 5: he's setting himself up for failure. He's got to beat
[26:42] Speaker 5: Wimby with effort play, screen, roll.
[26:45] Speaker 4: If Brendan messed up with Shaq and Shaq busting his.
[26:48] Speaker 1: Ass, he's like, hey, Gil, give me the fucking ball.
[26:51] Speaker 1: What you going to say? Nigga, man, you a motherfucker.
[26:53] Speaker 1: You a goddamn pothead. You're going to tell me to
[26:55] Speaker 1: get it off the table. Get it off the table.
[26:57] Speaker 1: You always, you know, like, get your get back.
[26:59] Speaker 6: Get the fuck out of here, Gil. We go off of,
[27:02] Speaker 6: are you competing in the NBA?
[27:04] Speaker 1: You're not giving him the ball.
[27:06] Speaker 6: If you're not competing and we know he's bitching, you know, you.
[27:10] Speaker 3: Have to compete.
[27:11] Speaker 6: Like Steve Nash, when we went into those games, he's
[27:14] Speaker 6: the MVP. I'm running out of snack. You're not going
[27:17] Speaker 6: to tell me shit.
[27:17] Speaker 1: But you have the, you're the first option. You can
[27:20] Speaker 1: do that. I was the 13th option doing the same thing.
[27:23] Speaker 1: A nigga scored on me. Give me the ball. We
[27:26] Speaker 1: are not playing this game. He's not going to have
[27:28] Speaker 1: a green light and I have a red light. We
[27:30] Speaker 1: just talked about how they coached way differently. Watch out.
[27:34] Speaker 1: You're not doing that. I did it. That was a
[27:37] Speaker 1: different era. That was the worst era.
[27:39] Speaker 4: We just talked about how they coach off a piece
[27:41] Speaker 4: of paper. It's no longer about feel. It's no longer
[27:44] Speaker 4: about momentum. It's not even about, hey, man, my guy
[27:46] Speaker 4: having a bad night.
[27:47] Speaker 1: Let's give him a couple plays to get around. They're
[27:49] Speaker 1: not doing that anymore. That's better. That means we're going
[27:53] Speaker 1: to swing, swing. We're just playing basketball. Give me that rock.
[27:55] Speaker 5: Yo, but you're thinking about your... I'm.
[27:58] Speaker 1: Thinking about war.
[28:00] Speaker 3: Chet's in position.
[28:01] Speaker 1: This is war.
[28:02] Speaker 3: He's in position.
[28:03] Speaker 6: If I'm Wimby and I read that bullshit soft-ass statement.
[28:08] Speaker 1: I'm agreeing on that. That's a soft-ass statement. I'm right here.
[28:11] Speaker 1: I guarantee you.
[28:14] Speaker 6: Wimby goes at him first. I need to see where
[28:17] Speaker 6: he's at. If I can beat him in the first
[28:20] Speaker 6: minute of the game, we don't have to worry about
[28:22] Speaker 6: him no more.
[28:22] Speaker 1: He beat him last year. He's already... That's what I'm saying.
[28:25] Speaker 6: If his statement was, hey, after that loss, after my performance,
[28:29] Speaker 6: I've been savoring the summer. I can't wait till tonight.
[28:32] Speaker 6: Wimby's going to be like, oh, okay, okay.
[28:34] Speaker 1: All right.
[28:35] Speaker 6: Like... That's some soft shit. This will be a 1-4 flat.
[28:40] Speaker 6: Let me test him.
[28:41] Speaker 1: Lay 1-4 flat? I used to hate the 1-4 flat game.
[28:44] Speaker 1: I know you did. Didn't get nobody to rock.
[28:46] Speaker 6: But look, this is called, we're going to L.A. when
[28:50] Speaker 6: I had 60. Kobe's first thing is, hey, I got Gil.
[28:52] Speaker 6: I'm going to shut him down.
[28:54] Speaker 1: Smoosh, you go D. Steve. Hey, that was a cold moment, though. Right?
[28:58] Speaker 1: Hold on.
[28:59] Speaker 5: You need to tell that one because that's a cold moment.
[29:01] Speaker 1: You've lost an over. From the start of the game, though,
[29:04] Speaker 1: you're at halftime. Because I'm on fire. So I'm leading up.
[29:08] Speaker 6: I'm catching heat right now. So Cole, we already know
[29:12] Speaker 6: the matchup.
[29:13] Speaker 1: Cole's like, hey, no, no. Hey, Smush, I got Gil.
[29:15] Speaker 1: I'm going to shut him down. You go to Larry.
[29:18] Speaker 1: You're forgetting the part. And then I'm like, hey, hey.
[29:21] Speaker 1: Tallest steps.
[29:22] Speaker 5: I'm going one, four, flat first. You're forgetting the part.
[29:25] Speaker 5: Cole didn't shake nobody's hand.
[29:27] Speaker 1: He walked past. I said, Cole, what up? Walked straight
[29:29] Speaker 1: past me. That's me.
[29:31] Speaker 5: Walked up to you, smacked you on the ass hard
[29:34] Speaker 5: as hell.
[29:35] Speaker 3: Bow!
[29:35] Speaker 5: You asked for this, didn't you? Now make sure you
[29:37] Speaker 5: come guard me like I'm about to guard you.
[29:39] Speaker 1: That's the second game. No, that's the second. That's in Washington.
[29:43] Speaker 1: That's in D.C. I'm talking about the game in D.C. Oh, no,
[29:46] Speaker 1: I'm talking about the game. Hey, Boogie, it got real.
[29:49] Speaker 5: Gil gave Kobe 60. Talk that trash on the plane,
[29:53] Speaker 5: on the phone, straight to Cole. You want Chet to
[29:56] Speaker 5: have that Kobe energy that Kobe had with you. Kobe
[29:59] Speaker 5: walked past everybody, ain't shaking, they're not a hand. And listen,
[30:03] Speaker 5: the smack on the ass.
[30:04] Speaker 1: Was, hey!
[30:06] Speaker 5: Gil jumped, like, ooh, ooh. He was like, you asked
[30:09] Speaker 5: for this, right? You was talking to me? And make
[30:11] Speaker 5: sure you come guard me like I'm about to guard you.
[30:13] Speaker 5: You want Chet to be that, but Chet ain't Kobe.
[30:16] Speaker 5: He ain't going to walk out there with that type
[30:18] Speaker 5: of energy.
[30:18] Speaker 3: He better be something.
[30:21] Speaker 1: But was he me in that moment? Huh? Was he me?
[30:25] Speaker 6: Meaning that man is savoring what I did to him.
[30:29] Speaker 1: You did jump when he smacked you. Yeah. Like, ooh.
[30:33] Speaker 1: The mentality. He was like, who there? He was like,
[30:36] Speaker 1: who there? Now, Brendan. You're supposed to remember those. Now, Brendan.
[30:41] Speaker 1: Gil went at Kobe all game.
[30:42] Speaker 6: How did the game, like, remember, he wants his get
[30:46] Speaker 6: back with you.
[30:46] Speaker 3: Exactly.
[30:47] Speaker 6: What did that game turn into the first beginning of
[30:49] Speaker 6: the game?
[30:49] Speaker 1: Gil versus Kobe one-on-one.
[30:50] Speaker 5: One-on-one.
[30:53] Speaker 1: One-on-one.
[30:53] Speaker 6: He's coming at me. He's coming at me. I don't
[30:58] Speaker 6: give a fuck about the win. He wants to see
[31:00] Speaker 6: if I'm going to stand.
[31:00] Speaker 3: Up to him.
[31:01] Speaker 1: I got to guard him. He's going to guard me.
[31:04] Speaker 1: It's war. That's the only way I'm going to get...
[31:06] Speaker 1: You hit him with the ass. That was....
[31:12] Speaker 6: I'm coming after you.
[31:13] Speaker 1: I want to see if you're going to fight.
[31:14] Speaker 6: If I would have had 12, 15, didn't play that,
[31:18] Speaker 6: Cole wasn't respecting me as no player. Like, I'm shooting
[31:21] Speaker 6: a clip out of this bitch.
[31:23] Speaker 3: And Chet could challenge him in many other ways besides
[31:25] Speaker 3: in the past.
[31:26] Speaker 1: That's what I'm saying. His challenge ain't going to be
[31:28] Speaker 1: the same.
[31:28] Speaker 6: I might push that motherfucker when I'm cool with that.
[31:31] Speaker 1: You know how they do this shit right here? Yeah,
[31:33] Speaker 1: I'm cool with that.
[31:35] Speaker 6: If I'm Chet, I'm smacking the fuck out of that.
[31:36] Speaker 1: And I'm cool with that.
[31:39] Speaker 6: You've got to set the table because he needs to.
[31:42] Speaker 1: Know you've changed.
[31:44] Speaker 5: You're talking, once again, from a true offensive star standpoint.
[31:51] Speaker 1: Chet's a role player.
[31:52] Speaker 5: I played with one of the better championship role players,
[31:55] Speaker 5: Tyson Chandler. When we played the Lakers, they were like, yo,
[32:01] Speaker 5: We need, Brendan, we need you and Tyson. We need
[32:03] Speaker 5: y'all standing up to Powell and Bynum. We need, hey,
[32:08] Speaker 5: ain't no back down. We need y'all setting every screen. Hard,
[32:12] Speaker 5: rolling to the basket. We putting these dudes in. Hey,
[32:13] Speaker 5: we need y'all finishing, rebounding. And Tyson is mad energy.
[32:17] Speaker 5: tyson can't go one-on-one with pal gasol he ain't that's
[32:21] Speaker 5: why i'm bringing that up he ain't that style player
[32:24] Speaker 5: he can affect the game and we won because of
[32:26] Speaker 5: tyson played great but tyson was out working running down
[32:30] Speaker 5: the court yo he's screening rolling if tyson would have.
[32:33] Speaker 3: Tried to do what you want to.
[32:35] Speaker 1: Do making a tough cat.
[32:36] Speaker 5: Tyson tyson catching loves he's out he's running down the court.
[32:41] Speaker 1: I'm not talking about Max's mentality.
[32:44] Speaker 5: Hold on a second. I'm glad you said that. A
[32:46] Speaker 5: Max player is just what they paid you. Just because
[32:49] Speaker 5: somebody paid you the max don't mean you a real
[32:51] Speaker 5: max player. That's just what the sound. You a max
[32:55] Speaker 5: player on the first and the 15th. You're all NBA. All-star,
[32:58] Speaker 5: all NBA.
[32:59] Speaker 1: I don't care. He's not that type. Listen, there's a
[33:01] Speaker 1: difference between. You'll never be Wimby. There's a difference between Wimby.
[33:04] Speaker 1: I don't want to be Chet right now. No, I
[33:06] Speaker 1: get it. I'm agreeing with you. It's mentality. I'm agreeing.
[33:09] Speaker 1: I'm agreeing. I'm saying, like, I'm just saying there's going.
[33:13] Speaker 6: To be a point in a game where you need
[33:17] Speaker 6: your team.
[33:17] Speaker 1: To make a stand.
[33:19] Speaker 6: To know this is not the same as last year.
[33:22] Speaker 6: You don't think those boys looked at that stat sheet
[33:24] Speaker 6: and say, dog, this nigga scared of that.
[33:27] Speaker 1: I'm going to tell you.
[33:28] Speaker 4: I don't know they looked at it because they drafted
[33:30] Speaker 4: to replace him.
[33:31] Speaker 1: And we ain't going to see her act like we
[33:33] Speaker 1: don't see what's going on.
[33:34] Speaker 5: Oh, they putting the feet to the fire, homie.
[33:36] Speaker 1: Hey, we need you to step up.
[33:38] Speaker 4: We need you to be this president that we drafted.
[33:41] Speaker 3: You for and we paid you to be.
[33:43] Speaker 1: If not, We got this young stud ready. They have
[33:47] Speaker 1: contract issues in the near future.
[33:49] Speaker 2: They have contract issues over there.
[33:52] Speaker 4: It's not that I feel like they're ignoring the issue.
[33:55] Speaker 4: They're putting fire to his ass, bro.
[33:57] Speaker 1: That's the organization. I'm talking about teammates. Nah, but.
[34:00] Speaker 4: Them two, you think they have a conversation with Shea? Hey,
[34:03] Speaker 4: we think about drafting this big kid. I'm talking about
[34:05] Speaker 4: in that game. That game. It's all a result from
[34:08] Speaker 4: the game.
[34:08] Speaker 6: How many times have we looked at players on our
[34:10] Speaker 6: team and jump balled? They looking at somebody and you
[34:13] Speaker 6: can see the fear.
[34:14] Speaker 1: We'll say what? Yeah, he ain't got it tonight.
[34:17] Speaker 6: But.
[34:18] Speaker 3: Hey, listen.
[34:19] Speaker 5: You're... You're right in the aspect that Chet has to
[34:22] Speaker 5: stand up and fight for Wimby. But at the same time,
[34:26] Speaker 5: you're wrong about the way that Chet has to do it.
[34:29] Speaker 5: Chet has to stand up to Wimby like, man, I'm
[34:31] Speaker 5: fighting you for this rebound. Maybe take a hard foul
[34:34] Speaker 5: to start the game off.
[34:35] Speaker 1: When Wimby starts.
[34:36] Speaker 5: Doing all that face up, get into him and challenge him.
[34:41] Speaker 5: And then when you get a stop, yeah, we're here now.
[34:44] Speaker 5: You want him to go do it offensively. That ain't
[34:46] Speaker 5: going to work. He gonna have to go out here.
[34:48] Speaker 5: I'll work that man and he's gonna have to do
[34:50] Speaker 5: it defensively keep looking at me like that You can slap.
[34:53] Speaker 1: The floor if you want to.
[34:57] Speaker 6: You can slap the floor all you want to women
[34:59] Speaker 6: shooting that bitch from half court with one leg You.
[35:02] Speaker 1: Can be the defensive nigga all you want and take
[35:04] Speaker 1: two shots.
[35:05] Speaker 6: Women gonna be like oh this nigga's ass Don't worry
[35:07] Speaker 6: about it. You gotta show me that they're comparing us.
[35:10] Speaker 6: You gotta match me somehow If I take 20 shots,
[35:15] Speaker 6: you got to at least take 12. If you got
[35:18] Speaker 6: to take 12, you average 18 in a regular season.
[35:21] Speaker 6: You're saying you're going to average 10? 17 and 8.
[35:24] Speaker 2: He was one of two players that averaged 17 and
[35:26] Speaker 2: 8 with 55% shooting. Him and Jokic averaged 12 field
[35:30] Speaker 2: goal attempts per game in the playoff series before the Spurs.
[35:32] Speaker 1: That dropped to 7. field goal. Come on, man.
[35:35] Speaker 2: In that seven game period.
[35:37] Speaker 6: That man playing one side of basketball. He ain't playing
[35:41] Speaker 6: no side. Yeah, Wimby's not playing no defense.
[35:44] Speaker 1: I ain't got to guard him.
[35:45] Speaker 5: I mean, he's 7'2, right?
[35:49] Speaker 1: 7'3. He only averaged 10, 11 shots a game. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
[35:52] Speaker 5: That's the third option.
[35:54] Speaker 1: 10, 11 shots.
[35:55] Speaker 3: But I'm playing against him. That bitch bumping up to
[35:57] Speaker 3: 14 this game. He can find other shots.
[36:00] Speaker 1: This game tonight?
[36:01] Speaker 3: Especially when Wemby's going after every shot. Follow right behind him.
[36:04] Speaker 3: That's where it is.
[36:04] Speaker 1: This game tonight, I'm going for 14 shots.
[36:07] Speaker 3: Every shot that he don't block, you should be able
[36:08] Speaker 3: to get the rebound and get a putback or something.
[36:11] Speaker 1: That's what I'm saying.
[36:12] Speaker 3: That's extra three shots.
[36:12] Speaker 5: That's why I use the Tyson Chandler comparison.
[36:15] Speaker 1: Yeah.
[36:15] Speaker 5: Because if you want Tyson to go at Pau Gasol,
[36:17] Speaker 5: that ain't going to work. But you can still go
[36:20] Speaker 5: at him. It just ain't, throw me the ball on
[36:22] Speaker 5: the block. No, you go at him like, I'm blocking
[36:24] Speaker 5: your shot. I'm getting offensive rebounds. I'm running the court.
[36:27] Speaker 5: He needs to prove that he can stand up to
[36:30] Speaker 5: Wimby from an energy factor. You're saying the way Gilbert
[36:33] Speaker 5: Arenas would have attacked it. But he ain't Gilbert Arenas
[36:36] Speaker 5: from a scoring confidence standpoint. It ain't going to work.
[36:39] Speaker 6: Okay, one, I'm the defensive player of the year. Meaning, Wimby,
[36:45] Speaker 6: one you're not a threat anyway now that i know
[36:48] Speaker 6: you're scared to shoot you're not a threat offensively i'm
[36:51] Speaker 6: way better than you so all that defensive shit goes
[36:54] Speaker 6: out of the window because i can literally say hey
[36:58] Speaker 6: get out the way nobody's doing shit so if you
[37:00] Speaker 6: don't have the balls to when i'm going at you
[37:04] Speaker 6: every fucking play down if you don't have the balls
[37:06] Speaker 6: and say yo no no come on get that shit
[37:08] Speaker 6: to me I don't give a fuck what you're doing.
[37:10] Speaker 6: You're not going to gain your confidence in this game.
[37:12] Speaker 6: I don't give a fuck how many times you block me.
[37:14] Speaker 6: I get to keep shooting.
[37:17] Speaker 1: I can be 9'45.
[37:20] Speaker 4: So how would you suggest him gaining his confidence if
[37:22] Speaker 4: he's not going to get the shot attempts? If he
[37:25] Speaker 4: can't match up with Wimby the same way Wimby is
[37:27] Speaker 4: coming at him, how is he supposed to gain the confidence?
[37:30] Speaker 1: It's all illusion, man. It's all illusion.
[37:33] Speaker 6: This whole game is illusion. You're trying to pretend that
[37:38] Speaker 6: you're better than you are. So there's moments in the
[37:40] Speaker 6: game where you can.
[37:43] Speaker 1: This is it.
[37:44] Speaker 6: You block the shot, you yell in that motherfucker's face.
[37:47] Speaker 6: You get a technical. You dunk on him, you better
[37:50] Speaker 6: get a technical. You better stop the clock, make the
[37:53] Speaker 6: motherfucker think. I don't want to see you dunk to me,
[37:56] Speaker 6: I just hurry up and take the ball and we
[37:57] Speaker 6: go back down the court and then I get to
[37:59] Speaker 6: play offense again.
[38:00] Speaker 1: Hell no. Dunk on it, grab the nigga, fall. Tech! Yeah, tech.
[38:05] Speaker 1: Now what happens?
[38:06] Speaker 6: The whole fucking arena shut up, doing this.
[38:09] Speaker 1: Shit right here. Now he got to look at that
[38:11] Speaker 1: shit on.
[38:11] Speaker 6: The jumbotron, his ass getting dunked on, they both falling.
[38:14] Speaker 6: Whoever can shoot the free throw, I don't give a
[38:15] Speaker 6: fuck at that point. I stop the moment for him
[38:20] Speaker 6: to think.
[38:22] Speaker 1: Versus getting dunked.
[38:23] Speaker 6: On, and then, you know, you take the ball out,
[38:25] Speaker 6: they go down there, now this nigga come in there,
[38:27] Speaker 6: do one of these.
[38:27] Speaker 1: Hey, listen, man.
[38:29] Speaker 5: Well, Jose, you can change who you was, but that's
[38:31] Speaker 5: just the top layer. Man, you was who you was
[38:33] Speaker 5: before you got here. Ain't nothing about what you're saying.
[38:35] Speaker 1: I was 17. I was an All-NBA.
[38:38] Speaker 3: Huh?
[38:39] Speaker 1: I said boss.
[38:40] Speaker 5: Nothing about what you're saying relates to what Chet has
[38:43] Speaker 5: shown us from a personality standpoint his first couple of
[38:45] Speaker 5: years in the league.
[38:47] Speaker 6: I agree with you.
[38:48] Speaker 1: That ain't him. If he was that boss. We wouldn't
[38:51] Speaker 1: be having that conversation.
[38:51] Speaker 5: Wait, wait, wait.
[38:52] Speaker 6: First of all, I was an all-NBA player before Wimby
[38:55] Speaker 6: got here.
[38:56] Speaker 5: We ain't saying that. We talking about what you're talking
[38:57] Speaker 5: about from a mentality standpoint.
[39:00] Speaker 6: I was 18 a game before we played against Wimby.
[39:02] Speaker 1: What did they call me to? seven what was.
[39:05] Speaker 6: It seven no no no i'm talking about the point
[39:08] Speaker 6: i'm saying what what i was what i was like
[39:10] Speaker 6: we're not saying go get 20 nigga you better stay
[39:13] Speaker 6: where you.
[39:13] Speaker 5: At i'm saying what you said all that rah-rah in
[39:15] Speaker 5: his face that ain't who.
[39:16] Speaker 6: Jay deray player of the year better change number one
[39:19] Speaker 6: pick maybe i'm somebody 11.7 rebounds.
[39:21] Speaker 1: For that game i thought about it. I thought about it.
[39:27] Speaker 1: He was that guy. We're going to see what he's
[39:29] Speaker 1: talking about. He was popping shit. Mini ha ha.
[39:32] Speaker 5: High school.
[39:32] Speaker 1: He was popping shit. Mini ha ha. He was popping shit.
[39:35] Speaker 6: Man, he was fucking with me up in the Olympics.
[39:37] Speaker 1: He was popping. I had to take it back. Got
[39:38] Speaker 1: that motherfucker out there crying. Little Frenchie out there crying.
[39:41] Speaker 1: What I'm not going to do is ignore it. He
[39:43] Speaker 1: tucked his tail. Yeah, he did. He tucked his tail.
[39:46] Speaker 4: Now, where we go from here is really more the question, but-
[39:50] Speaker 4: To Gil's point, he was popping shit early.
[39:53] Speaker 5: When I watched him in college, I didn't really see
[39:55] Speaker 5: Chet popping like that in college.
[39:56] Speaker 1: It was easy, though. He was popping shit. He had
[40:00] Speaker 1: a little swag for him.
[40:02] Speaker 5: Timmy was popping more than him.
[40:04] Speaker 3: If Chet don't get right, they're not getting past San Antonio.
[40:07] Speaker 3: I know that.
[40:13] Speaker 2: We got to move on from this convo. We got
[40:15] Speaker 2: some breaking news, ladies and gentlemen. Paul George and the
[40:17] Speaker 2: Celtics are putting... belt to ass.
[40:19] Speaker 6: On the fucking news belt but it's not as strong
[40:24] Speaker 6: of a belt as it was good we're up 20
[40:25] Speaker 6: something not only up 13 but pg 31 points right now.
[40:29] Speaker 3: Four steals five minutes ago in the third quarter historic debut.
[40:32] Speaker 4: Damn et picked pg yesterday too let.
[40:36] Speaker 3: Me uh efficient 10 for 14 hooping though let me
[40:39] Speaker 3: uh i gotta i gotta i'ma just officially say it
[40:42] Speaker 3: yeah this shit's Chet is done.
[40:44] Speaker 6: There's nothing he can do with Wimby. When Wimby was 17, yeah,
[40:49] Speaker 6: USA won.
[40:51] Speaker 1: The USA team won.
[40:53] Speaker 6: Wimby had 22, 8 rebounds, 8 assists. Chet, at 19
[40:58] Speaker 6: years old, had 10 points.
[41:01] Speaker 1: Five. But it was a clean tank, yo. So, yeah,
[41:04] Speaker 1: USA won the championship.
[41:06] Speaker 6: But, but, uh, when we was putting boot to ass,
[41:08] Speaker 6: don't disrespect 17.
[41:11] Speaker 5: 17, we don't disrespect our team.
[41:14] Speaker 1: You better get right. But I look at him. I
[41:16] Speaker 1: don't tend to be real good. Be real clean. Now,
[41:18] Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying? Keep the kids. You got
[41:20] Speaker 1: to think about it. Think about when he plays Rudy
[41:22] Speaker 1: Goldberg too.
[41:23] Speaker 6: We seen like that confidence that he was doing against
[41:26] Speaker 6: when being the world seen it.
[41:29] Speaker 1: We couldn't get that back.
[41:31] Speaker 6: You can't reverse what the guy did to you and say,
[41:35] Speaker 6: you're lunching me to him. Like there's confidence that you
[41:41] Speaker 6: put into somebody that you physically got to take out.
[41:45] Speaker 6: Or somehow that extra oof, they get that juice when
[41:49] Speaker 6: they see you. There's guys that you've played against when
[41:53] Speaker 6: you see them.
[41:54] Speaker 1: You know, I don't give a fuck where they rank at.
[41:56] Speaker 1: I got here. I got his number. He's good. Al Jefferson? Wait,
[41:59] Speaker 1: what are you?
[42:01] Speaker 6: That was the shit you used to talk the most
[42:02] Speaker 6: shit to Al Jefferson.
[42:03] Speaker 1: Who, me? I'm not going for that. I'm not going
[42:06] Speaker 1: for that. Nah.
[42:08] Speaker 6: You better learn how to shit with your left hand.
[42:10] Speaker 1: Like, you be like, whoa, big, big.
[42:12] Speaker 5: Hey, listen, that's not, that's respectful shit, though.
[42:15] Speaker 1: But it was the only. See, Al on good terms, man.
[42:17] Speaker 6: I know, but it was the only time that he really, like,
[42:20] Speaker 6: was popping his shit.
[42:22] Speaker 1: Okay. And Alex Evans averaged 20-something.
[42:24] Speaker 3: Yeah, 20 and 10 down there.
[42:26] Speaker 1: But against BP, like, yeah, nah, you ain't going to
[42:28] Speaker 1: go all right. I just jumped on my side. I
[42:29] Speaker 1: ain't going for this little punk face.
[42:31] Speaker 5: I just jumped on his left and didn't go for no–
[42:32] Speaker 5: I just jumped on that right hand and didn't go
[42:35] Speaker 5: for no punk face.
[42:35] Speaker 2: All right, well, let's keep this thing moving. We got
[42:38] Speaker 2: to head over to the Eastern Conference. Paul George leading
[42:40] Speaker 2: the NBA in scoring right now. Paul George leading the NBA.
[42:44] Speaker 5: How you hype for Boston with a Lakers jersey on?
[42:47] Speaker 1: How you hype for Boston with a Lakers jersey on?
[42:50] Speaker 3: Tatum only got 11 and 7?
[42:52] Speaker 1: 5-17 from the field. 5-17? Yeah.
[42:55] Speaker 3: I mean, it was up 20 a second ago. Now
[42:57] Speaker 3: it's 12.
[42:58] Speaker 1: Two light-skinned. It's can't dominate.
[43:00] Speaker 3: Jalen Dern, 19-8.
[43:01] Speaker 6: Paul George is the point guard on my 2K team.
[43:06] Speaker 1: I mean, he plays just like this, too. Let's talk
[43:08] Speaker 1: a little Paul George.
[43:09] Speaker 2: We were going to talk Paul George anyway, and he
[43:11] Speaker 2: went out and has a 31-piece right now, a little
[43:14] Speaker 2: under five minutes to go in the third quarter. But
[43:15] Speaker 2: Paul George's two seasons with the Sixers left much to
[43:18] Speaker 2: be desired as he was hampered by injury and off-court issues.
[43:21] Speaker 2: PG appeared to in just 37 games last season, which
[43:24] Speaker 2: included a 25-game suspension for violating the league's anti-drug policy.
[43:29] Speaker 2: So he was a part of the blockbuster trade this offseason,
[43:32] Speaker 2: which brought him to Boston while sending Jalen Brown to
[43:34] Speaker 2: the Sixers. During an interview with the Boston Globes' Gary Washburn,
[43:38] Speaker 2: PG had this to say about his playing with the
[43:41] Speaker 2: Celtics so far. He said, I'm ecstatic with being here,
[43:43] Speaker 2: being around these guys. Like, they brought something else out
[43:46] Speaker 2: of me that, to be quite frank, has been buried.
[43:49] Speaker 2: And that's just a different passion. There's a love again
[43:52] Speaker 2: for this game. So George also had this to share
[43:55] Speaker 2: with the Boston media about those comments recently.
[43:58] Speaker 8: Paul, Gary's awesome article dropped on the things you said
[44:01] Speaker 8: that was so glowing of the organization. And what have
[44:04] Speaker 8: you seen so far in the first couple months of
[44:06] Speaker 8: being here that made you want to speak that way
[44:08] Speaker 8: and made you feel that way?
[44:10] Speaker 1: Just my time, my experience here.
[44:14] Speaker 7: Obviously, it's been short, but first impression has been everything.
[44:19] Speaker 1: It's been.
[44:21] Speaker 7: First class organization, top to bottom. It's been a great
[44:28] Speaker 7: start for me. It's been a great start for me
[44:30] Speaker 7: and my family. We're looking forward to it.
[44:34] Speaker 5: Looking forward to what's ahead.
[44:36] Speaker 1: What did surprise you the most?
[44:38] Speaker 6: What has stood out to you the most compared to
[44:39] Speaker 6: what you thought it would be like?
[44:42] Speaker 1: Honestly, I didn't know what to expect.
[44:44] Speaker 7: But you've got to kind of assume that they do
[44:47] Speaker 7: things the right way with how successful they've been for
[44:52] Speaker 7: years and years. So, I mean, I didn't know what
[44:57] Speaker 7: to expect coming into it. I just, you know, I
[45:00] Speaker 7: was more so, you know, appreciative. You get to play
[45:03] Speaker 7: for such a story, franchise. And, you know, especially at
[45:09] Speaker 7: this point in my career, I thought that was just
[45:11] Speaker 7: special in its own. So, you know, I was, I've
[45:16] Speaker 7: been for sure grateful the expectations has for sure been
[45:20] Speaker 7: exceeded since I've been here.
[45:23] Speaker 2: Paul George, when he first got to the Celtics, said
[45:24] Speaker 2: he was going to be there to help out Jason Tatum.
[45:27] Speaker 2: He was fine with being a passenger. He appears to
[45:29] Speaker 2: have been bullshitting, ladies and gentlemen, because he's out here
[45:31] Speaker 2: cooking right now in the Celtics' season opener against the
[45:34] Speaker 2: Pistons in Detroit. 3 p.m. start from Adam Silver. Wild
[45:37] Speaker 2: Gills Arena on the air. We're giving you live updates
[45:40] Speaker 2: because we care about y'all. Paul George currently has played
[45:43] Speaker 2: 21 minutes in this game so far, has 31 points
[45:45] Speaker 2: on 10 of 14 shooting, six of eight from three,
[45:48] Speaker 2: five for five from the line, four steals as well
[45:52] Speaker 2: in this game.
[45:52] Speaker 1: Jason Tatum, 11 points, five of 17 shooting.
[45:55] Speaker 2: Just one game. Like we talked about, the Celtics were
[45:57] Speaker 2: up 20 at one point. They're up nine right now
[46:00] Speaker 2: with 440 to go in that third quarter. But let's
[46:02] Speaker 2: talk a little bit about Paul George. and just saying
[46:06] Speaker 2: that this new environment, this new experience coming to the
[46:08] Speaker 2: Celtics has made him love basketball.
[46:10] Speaker 3: I'm too happy about that shit.
[46:13] Speaker 1: My bad. Not really.
[46:14] Speaker 6: I mean, if you just look at his time in Philly,
[46:16] Speaker 6: he averaged 20.
[46:18] Speaker 3: But he said he had found love for the game.
[46:20] Speaker 3: I mean, I said, I don't mind. I look at
[46:22] Speaker 3: it in a positive way, but some fans might look
[46:24] Speaker 3: at this like, damn, you didn't love basketball when you
[46:26] Speaker 3: were here?
[46:29] Speaker 1: Didn't average 20. He averaged 16 his first season there,
[46:31] Speaker 1: averaged 17 last season. There's times where you're, In situations.
[46:34] Speaker 1: You got his cookin' the books, man. That ain't 20, man.
[46:36] Speaker 1: I mean, 17, we're gonna round up. Round up three?
[46:39] Speaker 6: Hell yeah, I can round up three.
[46:42] Speaker 1: Point three? A whole three? If I make 17 million,
[46:47] Speaker 1: I'm just gonna round it up to 20. You can
[46:50] Speaker 1: say $ 3 million.
[46:52] Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, yeah.
[46:53] Speaker 1: Not in the public. That's that new man. No, that's
[46:55] Speaker 1: the old man. How much you got in the bank?
[46:58] Speaker 1: About $ 25 million.
[46:59] Speaker 6: It says 17. You know, some extra shit that.
[47:00] Speaker 1: Go in there. Nearly $ 20 million. What'd you say?
[47:03] Speaker 6: You say, whatever the guy says, I just cut that
[47:06] Speaker 6: shit in half.
[47:07] Speaker 1: Well, how much you got in the bank? Yeah, I
[47:08] Speaker 1: got $ 20 million. He'd be like, 10.
[47:12] Speaker 7: They lying.
[47:14] Speaker 6: No, but what he does well, especially at this age,
[47:22] Speaker 6: that's the perfect situation.
[47:24] Speaker 1: Right?
[47:25] Speaker 6: It was, it's, A bunch of shooters. He doesn't have
[47:29] Speaker 6: to start the offense. Swing, swing, everybody's in rotation. Now
[47:32] Speaker 6: you have a guy who actually got jerk in him.
[47:35] Speaker 6: I mean, it's a great offense for him. So that's
[47:39] Speaker 6: why I said when you really think about JB numbers,
[47:43] Speaker 6: numbers-wide is where analytics kick in. Like, well, Paul George
[47:48] Speaker 6: offensively kind of matches this.
[47:51] Speaker 3: Like, you know what I mean?
[47:52] Speaker 1: Like, when he was playing before he got to Philly.
[47:53] Speaker 6: 22, 4, and 5.
[47:57] Speaker 1: He can do this. He can do this.
[47:59] Speaker 3: Jalen was averaging, what, 28 last year?
[48:01] Speaker 1: Last year, we're talking about between.
[48:03] Speaker 6: I'm like, one's averaging 27, the other's averaging about 22, 23.
[48:06] Speaker 1: Rodgers can do that. We get more shooting. You know
[48:09] Speaker 1: what I mean? You can lie to yourself and do that.
[48:12] Speaker 2: But when this trade first went down, everybody thought that
[48:15] Speaker 2: the Celtics got fleeced coming off of Jalen Brown.
[48:17] Speaker 3: Still can't think that.
[48:18] Speaker 1: Game one.
[48:19] Speaker 3: No, no, no, no.
[48:20] Speaker 6: It's totally different. It You did get fleece in the
[48:25] Speaker 6: sense of we was questioning can JB be a number one.
[48:34] Speaker 6: And there was an opportunity and he seized a moment,
[48:39] Speaker 6: which means you literally traded a guy who actually proved.
[48:44] Speaker 1: Yeah.
[48:45] Speaker 3: For a guy that hasn't proved.
[48:46] Speaker 1: You know what I mean? So it's like you now have.
[48:49] Speaker 6: Two real number one players on the same team, which
[48:52] Speaker 6: is hard to get. And one is willing to say,
[48:56] Speaker 6: I can be number two. When I need to be
[48:59] Speaker 6: number one, I'll step up and do it. So when
[49:01] Speaker 6: you trade them for someone who's willing to just be
[49:03] Speaker 6: number two, you know, you lose a lot.
[49:07] Speaker 1: Of value with that.
[49:08] Speaker 3: And this is the year JT got a show that
[49:11] Speaker 3: he can take this team better past what JB did
[49:14] Speaker 3: last year.
[49:15] Speaker 6: Now, the problem is, there's a middle ground. with this.
[49:20] Speaker 6: Like this game right now, Tatum's struggling. If I'm you,
[49:26] Speaker 6: just get the win by any means necessary.
[49:29] Speaker 1: You know what I mean?
[49:30] Speaker 6: You just want the win here. The numbers will catch
[49:32] Speaker 6: up later. Just get the win because you don't want
[49:36] Speaker 6: to lose and play bad.
[49:38] Speaker 1: Right?
[49:39] Speaker 6: Averaging 28 and doing JB, you don't have to do that.
[49:41] Speaker 6: You've done that before. Just trying to get that record and,
[49:45] Speaker 6: you know, show you can lead, that's all you have
[49:48] Speaker 6: to do.
[49:49] Speaker 1: So Tatum does have eight assists, right? They're stressing. I
[49:52] Speaker 1: got to be the shit.
[49:53] Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm looking at this a little differently, especially with,
[49:56] Speaker 4: you know, you get rid of the piece as big
[49:59] Speaker 4: as Jalen Brown, the conference finals MVP. And it's more
[50:05] Speaker 4: so for … And finals MVP. Yeah, finals MVP. And
[50:08] Speaker 4: you basically make it clear cut, like, Jason Tatum is
[50:12] Speaker 4: our guy moving forward. So I think we've all agreed
[50:16] Speaker 4: that this is a proven year for Jason Tatum as
[50:19] Speaker 4: far as being that guy on his own team. So
[50:26] Speaker 4: we've had this conversation in the past. And, like, for me,
[50:29] Speaker 4: if I'm this guy that's having to prove to the
[50:32] Speaker 4: world that I can't arrive to this occasion, I'm coming
[50:35] Speaker 4: out the gate swinging. I'm showing you exactly who I
[50:37] Speaker 4: am game one. I'm setting the tone early. So, and
[50:41] Speaker 4: obviously it's a lot of seeds.
[50:42] Speaker 3: Got 18 shots up.
[50:44] Speaker 1: And that's what I'm saying. As far as where this
[50:47] Speaker 1: is going, if you're aging.
[50:48] Speaker 5: Only a four-point game now.
[50:49] Speaker 1: Right.
[50:50] Speaker 4: If you're aging superstar, former superstar is the one leading
[50:55] Speaker 4: game one. game one straight out the gate season just started.
[50:59] Speaker 3: It happens man it ain't supposed to happen he's gonna
[51:03] Speaker 3: end up taking 25 shots tonight that's cool that's great
[51:05] Speaker 3: he's coming out swinging all.
[51:07] Speaker 5: Right hey man he took 18 shots that's.
[51:09] Speaker 4: What i said hey man this is like this is
[51:12] Speaker 4: my lead guy this is my tone setter.
[51:14] Speaker 6: But that's the problem i've been the tone setter this
[51:17] Speaker 6: whole time since i got here.
[51:20] Speaker 1: We don't know that. But we have.
[51:22] Speaker 2: But you got to reset the tone.
[51:24] Speaker 1: We don't know that.
[51:25] Speaker 6: Because it was always insurance with Jay LeBron.
[51:28] Speaker 1: That's not my problem. I've been the number one guy
[51:31] Speaker 1: this whole time. That's not true. I have. MVP voting,
[51:35] Speaker 1: all NBAs, all of them.
[51:37] Speaker 6: Who took home the hardware? This has been my team.
[51:39] Speaker 1: The whole time. Who took home the hardware? How is
[51:41] Speaker 1: it your team when your team took home the hardware? What?
[51:45] Speaker 1: How is it his team? Because someone's voting. Right? So
[51:49] Speaker 1: it's holding for that. So, I mean, if they don't
[51:51] Speaker 1: like me, I don't like them. It don't matter. But
[51:53] Speaker 1: this has been my team the whole time.
[51:55] Speaker 5: Listen.
[51:57] Speaker 6: So can I prove that I'm the what exactly?
[52:01] Speaker 3: No, it's not proving that's your team. You're proving that
[52:03] Speaker 3: you can, with it being your team, you can win
[52:05] Speaker 3: without that secondary person behind you.
[52:07] Speaker 1: Who has?
[52:09] Speaker 6: Did Tim win without Ginobili or Tatum?
[52:12] Speaker 3: Before J. Statham came back, they were still.
[52:14] Speaker 1: Danny's talking regular season.
[52:15] Speaker 3: Regular season.
[52:16] Speaker 1: Listen... So I'm winning without that number two. Then I
[52:19] Speaker 1: got another number two. I got 30 right now. What
[52:21] Speaker 1: are you going to say? I'm just saying.
[52:22] Speaker 5: You know what I mean?
[52:25] Speaker 3: The record's got to... They were number two in the
[52:27] Speaker 3: East last year with him missing out 80% of the season.
[52:30] Speaker 1: But again, you're comparing me to....
[52:33] Speaker 6: Then my second option. You're asking me, am I a
[52:37] Speaker 6: number one option while I was a number one option?
[52:41] Speaker 6: While I have this guy, I'm averaging 28, all NBA
[52:44] Speaker 6: first team. You're voting for me as an MVP candidate.
[52:50] Speaker 6: Now you're questioning me because I'm gone.
[52:53] Speaker 1: And he's an MVP candidate? Yes. That's called divide. Yes.
[52:58] Speaker 1: You're trying to divide us. You're not trying to... Actually,
[53:00] Speaker 1: they did divide us. I know. That's exactly what you
[53:03] Speaker 1: did to Kobe. Like, you got... You got.
[53:05] Speaker 6: You have Batman and was like, okay, yeah, you're robbing.
[53:11] Speaker 6: And then it was like, all right, Superman and Batman.
[53:14] Speaker 1: You know what?
[53:14] Speaker 6: Superman and Batman sound too dynamic. Let's break this shit up.
[53:18] Speaker 1: Who can lead the team? Yeah, so tell me when
[53:21] Speaker 1: Kobe came out and allowed... Who can we say next?
[53:26] Speaker 1: Andrew Biden... it still don't add up.
[53:29] Speaker 6: Andrew Biden, no, but that's not, no.
[53:31] Speaker 4: When this all allowed Andrew Biden to come out and
[53:33] Speaker 4: control the game.
[53:35] Speaker 1: No, but we're not talking about Andrew Biden.
[53:37] Speaker 6: When it was time for Kobe to prove that he
[53:39] Speaker 6: was that guy.
[53:40] Speaker 1: Uh-huh.
[53:41] Speaker 4: When did he come out and allow the company or
[53:45] Speaker 4: the guys that are there to help him to lead?
[53:48] Speaker 1: There's always some nice. Out the gate?
[53:50] Speaker 5: I just think it's one game.
[53:53] Speaker 3: It's one game.
[53:54] Speaker 1: To your point, if... That's all we got, Brendan. We
[53:57] Speaker 1: got to overreact. All we got. I said it's a
[54:00] Speaker 1: long season. I'm just saying, setting the tone early.
[54:04] Speaker 5: You can sit you can set that you can come
[54:06] Speaker 5: out and try to set the tone and have a
[54:08] Speaker 5: bad night we're obviously not watching the game i see
[54:11] Speaker 5: 18 shots so that tells me he's being aggressive 100
[54:13] Speaker 5: he's getting a shot but to your point fair or
[54:19] Speaker 5: unfair there's gonna be a lot of people that are
[54:21] Speaker 5: gonna be sitting up there saying okay when jb got
[54:23] Speaker 5: traded you ain't speak up so now we want to
[54:27] Speaker 5: see Can you have this team where J.B.
[54:31] Speaker 1: Was last year?
[54:32] Speaker 3: They haven't talked since the trash.
[54:35] Speaker 5: And on a bigger scale.
[54:37] Speaker 1: He got the harp going.
[54:37] Speaker 5: On a bigger scale.
[54:39] Speaker 1: Stop that. On a bigger scale, J.B. I mean, J.T.
[54:42] Speaker 5: Used to be considered top five, top five. We always
[54:45] Speaker 5: had him because he was first team All-NBA all the time.
[54:47] Speaker 5: Now we got some other guys. Can you go get
[54:50] Speaker 5: your spot back?
[54:51] Speaker 1: Can you?
[54:52] Speaker 5: So that's what this year. This year, obviously, is about
[54:54] Speaker 5: the Celtics trying to win a championship. Can you have
[54:56] Speaker 5: this team in place the same way JB did it?
[54:58] Speaker 3: Yeah.
[54:59] Speaker 5: And can you go back and get that top five
[55:01] Speaker 5: spot that you once had? That's what this is going
[55:03] Speaker 5: to come down to. And I can't judge that off
[55:06] Speaker 5: one game.
[55:07] Speaker 1: Huh?
[55:07] Speaker 3: Because they let go of JB. Because they let go
[55:09] Speaker 3: of JB.
[55:10] Speaker 6: What I'm saying, but we established that already. Y'all drafted
[55:14] Speaker 6: him to be the guy. Two years later, you drafted me,
[55:18] Speaker 6: and I was the guy. So what is the comparison
[55:23] Speaker 6: for anyway?
[55:24] Speaker 1: We won.
[55:25] Speaker 6: You wanted to see? We both built. We both came back.
[55:28] Speaker 6: We both got to the mountaintop. Now this is the
[55:31] Speaker 6: Kobe and Shaq situation where they both are going on
[55:35] Speaker 6: in separate ways and they're going.
[55:37] Speaker 1: To try to figure out how to create their career. Hey,
[55:40] Speaker 1: first game, Chris Mim.
[55:43] Speaker 6: When Shaq left, Chris Mim was out here balling. Yeah,
[55:47] Speaker 6: 23 and 12.
[55:48] Speaker 5: Shout out to Chris Mim, man. He was in my
[55:49] Speaker 5: draft class.
[55:50] Speaker 1: He was in our draft class. He wasn't in our
[55:52] Speaker 1: draft class. He was the year before. Yeah, he was.
[55:55] Speaker 1: He wasn't on my list. You had a list?
[55:57] Speaker 3: He had a list. Damn.
[55:58] Speaker 1: It was a fuck you list. Damn. I got to
[56:00] Speaker 1: scratch the niggas off. I wasn't on it, was I?
[56:02] Speaker 6: No, no.
[56:02] Speaker 1: Okay, good, good, good. Bunch of guards, bunch of guards,
[56:04] Speaker 1: bunch of guards.
[56:05] Speaker 2: So we will talk extensively about Celtics Pistons in addition
[56:08] Speaker 2: to all the other season opening games tomorrow on Gills Arena.
[56:11] Speaker 1: Game's still going on. We'll provide updates. But let's keep
[56:14] Speaker 1: this thing moving.
[56:15] Speaker 2: Season begins tonight, so let's get some predictions ahead of
[56:19] Speaker 2: most of the action tipping off. Obviously, there's one game
[56:21] Speaker 2: going on. But SGA won back-to-back MVPs looking to join
[56:24] Speaker 2: Bill Russell, Wilt, and Larry Bird as the only players
[56:26] Speaker 2: in history with three straight. Right now, Wimby, heavy favorite
[56:30] Speaker 2: to win MVP with 35% of traders on Polymarket picking him,
[56:33] Speaker 2: while Jokic and SGA have the second-best odds at 14%.
[56:37] Speaker 2: But let's get some predictions from the couch. Brennan, starting
[56:40] Speaker 2: with you, who is winning? The most valuable player award
[56:43] Speaker 2: this season.
[56:44] Speaker 1: Let's see what shirt I got on, right? Chet Holmgren. Oh, man.
[56:47] Speaker 1: Chet Holmgren, absolute now.
[56:49] Speaker 5: I'm going with SGA. I think that, obviously, they're going
[56:54] Speaker 5: to be, OKC's going to be one of the better
[56:55] Speaker 5: teams in the NBA. We know he's going to be
[56:57] Speaker 5: out there, damn near leading the league in scoring. They
[56:59] Speaker 5: can complain about the free throws and the new rules.
[57:02] Speaker 5: He's still going to go get what he has to do.
[57:04] Speaker 5: And then he gives you something on the defensive end also.
[57:06] Speaker 5: You're not going at him because you know he can
[57:08] Speaker 5: guard his yard. He might not be first-team all-NBA defense,
[57:11] Speaker 5: but he's good enough. I think that he's going to
[57:13] Speaker 5: be there, so I like what he's going to bring
[57:14] Speaker 5: to the table.
[57:15] Speaker 1: Give me SGA for MVP. You already know what you're
[57:17] Speaker 1: going to say, so go ahead and say it. Are
[57:18] Speaker 1: you going to say Luka? No, I've already said Jokic,
[57:21] Speaker 1: so I got to hedge.
[57:23] Speaker 5: Man, you can't just hedge and say this thing.
[57:27] Speaker 1: No, I already said it.
[57:28] Speaker 6: I said Jokic already, so I got that out in
[57:32] Speaker 6: the atmosphere.
[57:33] Speaker 1: So I'm going to go with another person, so I
[57:34] Speaker 1: have two people. If you ask me next week, I'm
[57:36] Speaker 1: going to have a third, right? So I'm going to
[57:38] Speaker 1: cover my bases correctly.
[57:39] Speaker 5: So you're just going to have your clippers clip up
[57:40] Speaker 5: all the stuff so you look right no matter what?
[57:42] Speaker 1: And you know.
[57:45] Speaker 6: It.
[57:46] Speaker 1: So today, the game is rigged.
[57:49] Speaker 6: So today, I got my man Luca winning the MVP.
[57:56] Speaker 1: He's going to average about 30. I give him. 33
[57:57] Speaker 1: last year.
[57:57] Speaker 3: 33 and a half, I think, last year.
[58:03] Speaker 5: I go 35 with no bronze.
[58:06] Speaker 1: He's so unselfish. If I'm him, I'm going to try
[58:08] Speaker 1: to sneak that triple-double.
[58:11] Speaker 3: You still average 35 with a triple-double.
[58:13] Speaker 6: I'm going to go 35. 35, 10, and 10.
[58:18] Speaker 3: They have to be in winning form, though. You know
[58:20] Speaker 3: how MVP goes. You have to be at least in
[58:21] Speaker 3: the top three or four. It's a solid pick, man.
[58:26] Speaker 1: Six out of eight. It's a solid pick. They'll finish
[58:28] Speaker 1: top three in their division.
[58:29] Speaker 3: I'm with you. I mean, no, I'm not with you.
[58:31] Speaker 3: I like the pick.
[58:32] Speaker 1: The Lakers will finish where? Top three in their division. Oh,
[58:34] Speaker 1: in their division. Okay.
[58:35] Speaker 3: That's three. I think they'll be top five in the West.
[58:39] Speaker 3: I think they'll be top five in the West.
[58:40] Speaker 1: That's three in the division.
[58:43] Speaker 2: Y'all kept Bronny on the squad, so let's go, Lakers.
[58:45] Speaker 2: Good job, Bronny.
[58:47] Speaker 3: No, I don't see voters fatigued. They're not going to
[58:50] Speaker 3: give it to SGA. They're not going to give it
[58:52] Speaker 3: to Jokic. I think it's Wemby's year. But if not,
[58:56] Speaker 3: it's going to be somebody in the East, like whoever's
[58:58] Speaker 3: at the top of the East. If the Knicks end
[58:59] Speaker 3: up being number one, they could finally get somebody. It
[59:02] Speaker 3: could be a Brunson. But I'm going to say Wemby, though.
[59:04] Speaker 3: I think it's Wemby's year. They're not going to give
[59:06] Speaker 3: it to SGA. They're not going to go Jokic. Luka, maybe,
[59:09] Speaker 3: but not going to win enough games. They could be
[59:10] Speaker 3: a four or five seed, but it might not get
[59:12] Speaker 3: them over the edge. In hindsight, I know who Cud's
[59:15] Speaker 3: going with. I'm going to go Wemby.
[59:16] Speaker 1: I already know.
[59:17] Speaker 3: Go ahead.
[59:18] Speaker 1: It's Wemby's year.
[59:18] Speaker 5: I already know who Cud's going with.
[59:20] Speaker 1: I already know. I already know. Trophy going back to
[59:25] Speaker 1: the hood, baby. Why Emberwolf? That motherfucker going to be
[59:28] Speaker 1: in the A. I think he averaging about 26, 27.
[59:32] Speaker 4: I already said I feel like they top three in
[59:35] Speaker 4: the West. I feel like LaMelo going to open up
[59:38] Speaker 4: a whole other layer to his game, along with the
[59:41] Speaker 4: other guys. But I think he's already shown. He's improved
[59:45] Speaker 4: every single year. He's gotten better every single year. He's
[59:47] Speaker 4: still growing. I think it's his year. And it's kind
[59:51] Speaker 4: of under the radar. I think the favorite would be
[59:53] Speaker 4: a guy like Wimby. a Jokic, those type of.
[59:58] Speaker 1: Even Luke.
[59:58] Speaker 4: I think his name will pop up for other reasons
[1:00:03] Speaker 4: outside of them being really good.
[1:00:04] Speaker 1: But... We're going here with you. And man, the Wolves
[1:00:08] Speaker 1: are going to be on that bullshit. They already put
[1:00:09] Speaker 1: the league on notice. We on bullshit all year, man.
[1:00:12] Speaker 1: Catch us outside. If it's somebody from the East, it's Giannis.
[1:00:16] Speaker 3: Miami ain't going to win no game.
[1:00:17] Speaker 6: He's the only one that's going to have the numbers that's.
[1:00:21] Speaker 1: Going to be... He's going to go out.
[1:00:23] Speaker 3: But if they're seven... What does that do?
[1:00:25] Speaker 1: But he's not going to be seven. Giannis could be
[1:00:27] Speaker 1: closer to a triple-double this year. That's what I'm saying.
[1:00:30] Speaker 6: He's going to have the numbers that, like, if there's
[1:00:32] Speaker 6: somebody in the East, it's just going to be like, ooh.
[1:00:37] Speaker 2: Everybody's favorite, Greco-Nigerian. All right, let's keep it moving. 2026
[1:00:40] Speaker 2: draft class, one of the most loaded in recent memory.
[1:00:43] Speaker 2: Big things expected from this group of talented hoopers right now.
[1:00:45] Speaker 2: Cam Boozer, slim favorite to win rookie of the year
[1:00:49] Speaker 2: with Caleb Wilson, Darren Peterson, A.J. DeBonsa, and Kingston Flemings.
[1:00:53] Speaker 2: and Yaxel Lindenberg all in the mix.
[1:00:55] Speaker 3: A hell of a class, bro.
[1:00:56] Speaker 1: We'll start with you. Who wins rookie of the year
[1:00:58] Speaker 1: this season? Uh, I'm going first, Acuff, second, Yaxel. Okay.
[1:01:04] Speaker 4: The reason I say that, I think Acuff has literally
[1:01:07] Speaker 4: nothing to lose. Uh, he's going to get plenty of shots,
[1:01:13] Speaker 4: plenty of opportunities to mess up, which is a good
[1:01:15] Speaker 4: thing for a rookie. Uh, I just feel like he
[1:01:18] Speaker 4: has the most opportunity out of everybody in the rookie class.
[1:01:21] Speaker 4: My second is Yaxel. Um, I think he's walking into
[1:01:25] Speaker 4: a situation to where he's already NBA ready. On top
[1:01:29] Speaker 4: of that, he's already being labeled the second best guy
[1:01:32] Speaker 4: on the.
[1:01:32] Speaker 1: Team behind Steph Curry.
[1:01:34] Speaker 4: So that only shows me that he has a lot
[1:01:35] Speaker 4: of opportunity in front of him as well.
[1:01:38] Speaker 1: So those are my top two guys.
[1:01:39] Speaker 4: The reason I can't say guys like A.J., who I
[1:01:42] Speaker 4: think is incredible, is just he's more in a situation
[1:01:45] Speaker 4: where he's not going to be able to play through
[1:01:47] Speaker 4: every mistake, get every shot opportunity. He's playing next to
[1:01:50] Speaker 4: two guys. uh, all stars and, and Trey young and
[1:01:55] Speaker 4: Anthony Davis and their goal will be, I think their
[1:01:57] Speaker 4: team goal outweighs his individual goal. So that's kind of
[1:02:01] Speaker 4: why he's down the list for me. And, uh, in Chicago,
[1:02:06] Speaker 4: I like Caleb. I think he also has opportunity, but
[1:02:08] Speaker 4: it's just so many young pieces, but I can't really
[1:02:12] Speaker 4: see them being on the same page in order for
[1:02:14] Speaker 4: him to get that.
[1:02:14] Speaker 1: So, uh, that's my, that's my prediction.
[1:02:18] Speaker 3: Uh, I think a lot of them have opportunity, but
[1:02:20] Speaker 3: I'm going Caleb, man. I think it's a pretty easy,
[1:02:23] Speaker 3: obvious choice for me. A lot of people are excited
[1:02:28] Speaker 3: about him. He can do a lot of different things.
[1:02:30] Speaker 3: He's special. But Cam Booz will have a lot of
[1:02:33] Speaker 3: opportunity as well. But I just think he's going to
[1:02:36] Speaker 3: be able to showcase something that he was able to
[1:02:38] Speaker 3: show in college on this next level. So he's stretching
[1:02:42] Speaker 3: the floor now, shooting threes, and handling off the bounce
[1:02:46] Speaker 3: like he was really just a big in college. He's
[1:02:50] Speaker 3: doing all of that, and he has a lot of
[1:02:51] Speaker 3: opportunity over in Chicago. I think he's going to be
[1:02:55] Speaker 3: a bright spot for them. So I'm going Caleb Wilson.
[1:02:57] Speaker 1: Who's the coach in Chicago?
[1:02:58] Speaker 3: Tiago Splitter.
[1:02:59] Speaker 1: Tiago, yeah. You got him from Portland. I like Caleb.
[1:03:04] Speaker 5: He's still looking his up.
[1:03:06] Speaker 3: BG got 33, by the way. They went back up.
[1:03:09] Speaker 3: They went back up nine.
[1:03:10] Speaker 1: I hate to do this because it goes against my character.
[1:03:14] Speaker 1: You on Boozer?
[1:03:16] Speaker 5: But I got to go with Cam Booth. When you
[1:03:18] Speaker 5: talk about opportunities, just real quick, let's run through this
[1:03:21] Speaker 5: Memphis roster. Carson Cooper, Cedric Coward, Zach Eady, Jeremy Grant,
[1:03:26] Speaker 5: Taylor Hendricks, Gigi Jackson, Ty Jerome, Chris Murray, Scottie Pippen Jr.,
[1:03:33] Speaker 5: Quentin Post, Prosper, Javon Small, Cam Spencer, Isaiah Stewart, Jalen Wells.
[1:03:39] Speaker 5: There ain't nobody taking no shots away from Cam Booth
[1:03:41] Speaker 5: on that whole roster.
[1:03:42] Speaker 1: He's going to get a chance to shoot. Obviously, he's
[1:03:45] Speaker 1: going to rebound. Then he's a little bit of a
[1:03:48] Speaker 1: throwback boogie. He'll go in there. I like him.
[1:03:50] Speaker 5: He'll go in there and quick seal in the lane
[1:03:52] Speaker 5: and get physical.
[1:03:53] Speaker 1: I just believe.
[1:03:54] Speaker 5: And then on a nightly basis, man, they're going to
[1:03:56] Speaker 5: be getting beat so bad sometimes in the second half.
[1:03:58] Speaker 5: Teams ain't going to care that he's getting his scoring.
[1:04:00] Speaker 5: I just think he has the most opportunity as far
[1:04:03] Speaker 5: as rebounding, scoring, free throws, all that. I think he
[1:04:07] Speaker 5: has no one has more opportunity than Cam Boozer.
[1:04:09] Speaker 1: I just read that roster. Ain't nobody taking no shots
[1:04:12] Speaker 1: from him. I agree.
[1:04:13] Speaker 4: I just had a conversation with my son earlier about, like,
[1:04:16] Speaker 4: who to kind of model your game at.
[1:04:18] Speaker 1: And, you know, he's bringing up all these superstar guys.
[1:04:21] Speaker 4: I'm like, man, that's easier said than done. And I
[1:04:25] Speaker 4: literally brought up Cam Booz. I'm like, this kid can
[1:04:27] Speaker 4: do everything on the floor.
[1:04:28] Speaker 1: Yep. That's the type of player that you want to
[1:04:30] Speaker 1: model yourself after. I wanted to draft him yesterday. Gil Ricker, then? Yeah.
[1:04:35] Speaker 6: You should have.
[1:04:36] Speaker 5: I don't even think we drafted him.
[1:04:38] Speaker 3: Shum got all the rooks, right? He didn't get enough.
[1:04:40] Speaker 1: I was thinking about Campbell's.
[1:04:43] Speaker 3: I probably should have took Campbell's.
[1:04:50] Speaker 1: It all depends on, do they want winning? Peterson? They
[1:04:53] Speaker 1: don't care about winning. You said you wanted a DP yesterday.
[1:04:56] Speaker 3: Darren Peterson's solid, but he has too much talent around
[1:04:58] Speaker 3: him where I don't think he'll get a lot of shots.
[1:05:01] Speaker 3: He's going to be good.
[1:05:02] Speaker 1: He's going to shoot that fucking ball.
[1:05:04] Speaker 6: Um.
[1:05:07] Speaker 6: Caleb Boozer and DP is the ones I really have.
[1:05:10] Speaker 6: I was looking up Yaxel because Yaxel is going to
[1:05:12] Speaker 6: be a guy who actually gets to average a double-double.
[1:05:15] Speaker 6: So I was looking up who was the oldest rookie
[1:05:17] Speaker 6: of the years. And there's three. Dave Robinson, 24. He
[1:05:25] Speaker 6: was the oldest shit. He served our country.
[1:05:27] Speaker 1: 24-year-old rookie. Yeah, because he went to the Army. Malcolm Brogdon.
[1:05:31] Speaker 1: Michael Brogdon.
[1:05:32] Speaker 5: He averaged 10.
[1:05:33] Speaker 1: Yeah, it was a bad year. He averaged 10. He
[1:05:37] Speaker 1: was like 20-something. And then Sabonis at 31. So I
[1:05:42] Speaker 1: was trying to see if it's even possible.
[1:05:43] Speaker 6: Like, will the league even allow him to take it
[1:05:46] Speaker 6: from one of their young talents?
[1:05:48] Speaker 1: So it's happened. Watching Caleb just go down there and
[1:05:54] Speaker 1: take shots, right?
[1:05:58] Speaker 6: He's going to get them up. I'm going to go
[1:06:01] Speaker 6: with Boozer. I'm going to go with Boozer, and I
[1:06:03] Speaker 6: have DP second. I think Boozer, there's nobody there to
[1:06:06] Speaker 6: shoot it. He's a real big man that you can
[1:06:09] Speaker 6: put the ball in his hands, so.
[1:06:11] Speaker 1: He's going to take the top.
[1:06:12] Speaker 6: 12 to 15 shots that he needs. So he's going
[1:06:15] Speaker 6: to have the opportunity to get more. And it's all
[1:06:17] Speaker 6: quality shots. This ain't college.
[1:06:18] Speaker 1: You're not going to be able to sit in the lane.
[1:06:21] Speaker 1: I just gave you that roster. He getting 15 to
[1:06:23] Speaker 1: 20 shots. That roster is nasty.
[1:06:25] Speaker 2: Last but not least, give me your NBA Finals predictions
[1:06:29] Speaker 2: and who's winning the chip. So who's in the finals
[1:06:31] Speaker 2: who's winning the chip? Brandon, we'll start with you.
[1:06:32] Speaker 5: NBA Finals, I'll go OKC New York Knicks and I
[1:06:36] Speaker 5: got OKC winning the chip.
[1:06:39] Speaker 1: Oh, OK. Gilbert? Okay, see, baby. You can say Lakers now,
[1:06:43] Speaker 1: delusional man. I was about to. I know you were.
[1:06:46] Speaker 1: So I'm going to go to the other team first.
[1:06:49] Speaker 6: I'm going to say Philadelphia 76ers versus the Lakers.
[1:06:54] Speaker 1: No way. Hell no. Amen. If we win it. For
[1:06:57] Speaker 1: any of y'all to bet, please don't do that one.
[1:07:00] Speaker 6: Hey, I didn't say follow me. I said I was
[1:07:02] Speaker 6: going to be delusional.
[1:07:04] Speaker 1: This is true. Right?
[1:07:05] Speaker 6: Hey, listen, I'm going for the Lakers until they.
[1:07:07] Speaker 1: Lose, and then I'll pick a real team. The Brown Bowl. Okay.
[1:07:10] Speaker 6: Mm-hmm.
[1:07:11] Speaker 1: Man, we're going to go beat them. Lakers beat the Sixers.
[1:07:15] Speaker 1: It's ironic, Danny. Finals, predictions?
[1:07:17] Speaker 3: I got a rematch. We're going to see the same finals.
[1:07:20] Speaker 3: Nick Spurs. Spurs is going to get them. They get
[1:07:26] Speaker 3: a redemption year.
[1:07:27] Speaker 1: Might lose boogie. You stick with the Wolves, man? Okay.
[1:07:31] Speaker 1: He riding on with his guy.
[1:07:32] Speaker 3: Antonio will lose by third.
[1:07:33] Speaker 6: Huh?
[1:07:33] Speaker 3: Who's going to lose by third?
[1:07:34] Speaker 1: Who from the East? I said New York might lose.
[1:07:36] Speaker 4: It's going to be a chocolate finals.
[1:07:39] Speaker 1: I'm going to go with you. Timberwolves in Philly. Very chocolate.
[1:07:44] Speaker 1: Timberwolves get in the chat. Shopping City. All right. Wait, wait, wait.
[1:07:49] Speaker 1: It's crazy.
[1:07:50] Speaker 5: Ants on hood, he got us thinking Minnesota's chocolate.
[1:07:52] Speaker 1: I know, that's what I was about to say. I
[1:07:54] Speaker 1: was like, that's what I was thinking. I was like, damn,
[1:07:56] Speaker 1: Ant hood is hell.
[1:07:57] Speaker 5: We thinking about Minnesota like it's a black city.
[1:08:01] Speaker 1: Like it's cold Atlanta or something like that. I was
[1:08:03] Speaker 1: thinking the same thing. I was like, wait, chocolate, man. Minnesota,
[1:08:08] Speaker 1: the Minnesota Wyamberwolves. All right.
[1:08:10] Speaker 2: Well, it's time to try and finesse some bread on Polymarket.
[1:08:12] Speaker 2: This has put that on something. There are two games
[1:08:14] Speaker 2: left on the slate tonight, so we're going to give
[1:08:15] Speaker 2: you a trade on the Polymarket app.
[1:08:17] Speaker 1: You got to pick a side. Put that on something.
[1:08:19] Speaker 2: So Celtics and Pistons officially tipped off the NBA season,
[1:08:21] Speaker 2: but there are two more marquee matchups. Let's start in
[1:08:24] Speaker 2: the Big Apple where the Knicks are set to start
[1:08:26] Speaker 2: their title defense by taking on a retooled Sixers squad
[1:08:29] Speaker 2: featuring the Big Four plus one more. So defending champs,
[1:08:34] Speaker 2: heavy favorite to get the dub in this one. 62%
[1:08:37] Speaker 2: of traders are picking them while Sixers are sitting at 32%.
[1:08:42] Speaker 1: Let's take it to the couch. Boogie, we'll start with you.
[1:08:45] Speaker 1: Who's winning, Sixers or Knicks tonight? Quick jump.
[1:08:50] Speaker 3: Cut it to four.
[1:08:51] Speaker 4: I'm going to go with the Knicks. They know each other.
[1:08:56] Speaker 4: They have a chemistry coming off the chip. You always
[1:09:01] Speaker 4: got to give respect to the champs. Also, this is
[1:09:04] Speaker 4: a new Sixers group. I think they get better as
[1:09:07] Speaker 4: the year continues to go. I do think they're a
[1:09:11] Speaker 4: real threat towards the end of the year, but I've
[1:09:13] Speaker 4: said it before and I'm going to say it again.
[1:09:14] Speaker 4: I think early in the year in the East, the
[1:09:16] Speaker 4: Knicks will continue to dominate until Teams figure themselves out.
[1:09:21] Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm going to boogie on that. Second that. Knicks
[1:09:25] Speaker 3: have the chemistry already in place. Philly's still trying to
[1:09:28] Speaker 3: figure it out. We don't even know what they look
[1:09:30] Speaker 3: like fully healthy. We haven't seen them play. I don't
[1:09:32] Speaker 3: think they know what they look like yet. And it's
[1:09:34] Speaker 3: ring night. Banner going up. City about to be crazy.
[1:09:38] Speaker 1: Don't most teams lose on ring night? Nah, that's what
[1:09:41] Speaker 1: I was... I might have to go back on that.
[1:09:43] Speaker 3: No, no, no.
[1:09:44] Speaker 6: That's what I was looking for. So it's... And I
[1:09:46] Speaker 6: did the last 20 years, so it's 16-4.
[1:09:49] Speaker 3: So I'm going with.
[1:09:51] Speaker 1: New York to win. Oh, we good. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
[1:09:53] Speaker 1: New York to win.
[1:09:54] Speaker 3: It's only been recent that they've lost.
[1:09:55] Speaker 1: Okay.
[1:09:56] Speaker 3: Maybe like three or four, like last five years.
[1:09:58] Speaker 1: Lakers are the last losers. Okay. And then they lost
[1:10:01] Speaker 1: to the Clippers. And listen, man.
[1:10:03] Speaker 5: All this means is that Philadelphia's about to win because
[1:10:05] Speaker 5: I'm going clean sweep. I'm going with the Knicks. All
[1:10:07] Speaker 5: that means is we all going to be wrong.
[1:10:11] Speaker 1: Oh, you have little faith? Yeah, I'm going with the Knicks.
[1:10:13] Speaker 6: If I'm losing, I'm losing with friends.
[1:10:14] Speaker 5: We're going to lose as a unit. Yeah, like I said,
[1:10:19] Speaker 5: everything they said, man. Team camaraderie, banner night. I feel
[1:10:23] Speaker 5: like a lot of those guys didn't even get the
[1:10:25] Speaker 5: minutes in the preseason that they needed to to really
[1:10:27] Speaker 5: get comfortable. I think Philly's going to be good, but
[1:10:29] Speaker 5: it's going to take them some time.
[1:10:30] Speaker 1: I don't think they're going to start out just hot
[1:10:31] Speaker 1: like that. Right, right.
[1:10:35] Speaker 3: Four-point game in Detroit, by the way.
[1:10:37] Speaker 2: Season-opening nightcap features a Western Conference Finals rematch between the
[1:10:40] Speaker 2: Thunder and Spurs. We talked a little bit about it.
[1:10:43] Speaker 2: The Chet-Wimby rivalry. These two teams are officially a rivalry now.
[1:10:46] Speaker 2: They met in the playoffs.
[1:10:46] Speaker 1: Oh, for sure. This is a rivalry.
[1:10:48] Speaker 2: Game is a toss-up on Polymarket with 50% of traders
[1:10:51] Speaker 2: picking the Thunder, 51% rolling with Wimby and the Spurs.
[1:10:55] Speaker 1: Let's take it to the couch. Wait.
[1:10:57] Speaker 6: 50-50?
[1:10:57] Speaker 3: Is that what's going on?
[1:10:58] Speaker 1: You said a rivalry?
[1:10:59] Speaker 6: 50-51.
[1:11:00] Speaker 3: Does that add up?
[1:11:01] Speaker 1: It's a trading rivalry. Yeah, why wouldn't it be a rivalry?
[1:11:04] Speaker 1: Why are you looking at it? You're talking about Chet
[1:11:06] Speaker 1: and Wimby. Why you got the sourpuss face?
[1:11:08] Speaker 3: They've met in the Western Conference Finals. They've met in
[1:11:11] Speaker 3: a lot of times.
[1:11:13] Speaker 1: A lot of times. One team just started making the
[1:11:15] Speaker 1: playoffs just last year. Other than that, they've been losers
[1:11:19] Speaker 1: this whole time. Why are you making a rivalry because
[1:11:20] Speaker 1: we played once?
[1:11:21] Speaker 3: They played a lot of times.
[1:11:22] Speaker 1: I thought rivalry is like multiple times.
[1:11:25] Speaker 6: If they play again this year there, next year, we
[1:11:28] Speaker 6: can call it a rivalry.
[1:11:29] Speaker 1: It's a rivalry. They're rivalries, bro.
[1:11:32] Speaker 5: You know why it's a rivalry? Because last year in
[1:11:34] Speaker 5: the regular season, OKC didn't look at it like a rivalry,
[1:11:37] Speaker 5: and the Spurs did. So they mopped them up. And
[1:11:39] Speaker 5: then when they got to the playoffs, they were like,
[1:11:41] Speaker 5: you know what? We got a lot of confidence. We've
[1:11:43] Speaker 5: been curb stomping y'all all year long. So now OKC's like,
[1:11:46] Speaker 5: it's our time for our get back.
[1:11:47] Speaker 1: We healthy. We saw how y'all was popping off on us.
[1:11:50] Speaker 1: Now we here now. It's officially a rivalry. I don't
[1:11:52] Speaker 1: like you. You don't like me.
[1:11:53] Speaker 3: It's the seven games, bro, in the Western Conference Finals.
[1:11:58] Speaker 6: When did we call Cleveland a rivalry? After the second
[1:12:00] Speaker 6: year we was playing in the finals. That first year
[1:12:03] Speaker 6: after we lost, that wasn't a rivalry. When we played
[1:12:05] Speaker 6: the Bulls, that wasn't a rivalry. Even though we got
[1:12:09] Speaker 6: the scuffling in the summer league, it wasn't a rivalry.
[1:12:12] Speaker 1: That was funny. It was fun, but it wasn't a rivalry.
[1:12:14] Speaker 1: You know what I mean? We had a fight preseason.
[1:12:17] Speaker 1: They just got suspended. Chicago Bulls.
[1:12:21] Speaker 6: A little scuffle happened in the preseason. We mopped them
[1:12:24] Speaker 6: in a regular season. You said we got in a fight.
[1:12:26] Speaker 6: I looked at the film.
[1:12:27] Speaker 1: You ain't fighting nobody. I was grabbing. Get off my man.
[1:12:31] Speaker 1: I looked at the film. You ain't fighting nobody, man.
[1:12:33] Speaker 3: Did you beat any of these teams in the playoffs?
[1:12:35] Speaker 6: Yeah, we played them in the playoffs and we beat
[1:12:37] Speaker 6: them in the playoffs.
[1:12:37] Speaker 1: But there wasn't a rivalry.
[1:12:39] Speaker 6: We didn't even look at them no more. We were
[1:12:42] Speaker 6: trying to compete with the Miami until they smacked the
[1:12:44] Speaker 6: fuck out of us.
[1:12:45] Speaker 1: They didn't look at us.
[1:12:46] Speaker 3: That's why, because they were, what was it, first round?
[1:12:49] Speaker 6: Yeah, we beat them out of the first round.
[1:12:50] Speaker 3: It was one in verse two. It's like the top team.
[1:12:52] Speaker 1: You got to earn rivalry, man. You can't just be
[1:12:55] Speaker 1: good today. We've been good for the last three years.
[1:12:58] Speaker 3: They've been playing against each other in the cup tournaments,
[1:13:01] Speaker 3: the shit like that. Last year, they played against each
[1:13:03] Speaker 3: other like six times in one month. They played each
[1:13:05] Speaker 3: other like a.
[1:13:06] Speaker 5: Lot of times.
[1:13:06] Speaker 1: Yeah, last year. So who's winning? You've been in the
[1:13:09] Speaker 1: lottery fucking seven years straight.
[1:13:11] Speaker 5: I'm going OKC. I think OKC comes out hungry. We
[1:13:17] Speaker 5: talked about that game seven. There was no AJ Mitchell.
[1:13:20] Speaker 5: There was no J-Dub. Those guys back in that lineup,
[1:13:22] Speaker 5: give me OKC tonight.
[1:13:24] Speaker 1: Gilbert. I really want to go off of the first play.
[1:13:33] Speaker 1: Can I bank my shit off the first pick? No, man.
[1:13:35] Speaker 1: Give us your pick.
[1:13:36] Speaker 6: I want to see if Wimby goes at him first
[1:13:39] Speaker 6: play or Chet goes at him at first play.
[1:13:40] Speaker 3: That'll let me know.
[1:13:40] Speaker 5: Man, Chet ain't going at Wimby, man.
[1:13:41] Speaker 1: Make your pick.
[1:13:42] Speaker 3: Where is this at? Is this in San Antonio? Is
[1:13:44] Speaker 3: it in San Antonio?
[1:13:47] Speaker 1: Is it in San Antonio? San Antonio. Only one nigga
[1:13:50] Speaker 1: coming to play tonight. That's Chet. Chet might not even
[1:13:55] Speaker 1: show up. Are they going to find him walking on
[1:13:59] Speaker 1: a riverwalk? Swimming.
[1:14:02] Speaker 5: Dead body.
[1:14:04] Speaker 1: You know what? Floating. I'm going to go with OKC.
[1:14:10] Speaker 1: There we go. I'm going to go with OKC.
[1:14:13] Speaker 6: I think Spurs got a crack in their shield that
[1:14:18] Speaker 6: they don't.
[1:14:18] Speaker 1: Know right now. Three-guard lineup. We'll see how. Yeah, they
[1:14:21] Speaker 1: fucking around. They're not.
[1:14:22] Speaker 3: There you know my pick, man.
[1:14:23] Speaker 1: I'm just making sure. Yeah.
[1:14:26] Speaker 3: One-point game in Detroit. But, yeah, I'm going with San Antonio, bro. Again, Chet,
[1:14:29] Speaker 3: two pounds ain't enough to... Two mighty pounds.
[1:14:33] Speaker 1: If you put on extra socks, it'd be faux. Two
[1:14:35] Speaker 1: mighty pounds. Double socked. Uh-oh. Double socked up on the toes.
[1:14:38] Speaker 1: Detroit up. Detroit basketball. Look at that. This is tough.
[1:14:43] Speaker 1: You got De'Aaron Fox healthy. That matters.
[1:14:47] Speaker 3: You're coming back with a vengeance, too.
[1:14:49] Speaker 4: OKC got some guys healthy again. Jayden Williams, A.J.
[1:14:52] Speaker 1: Mitchell. I'm excited for the game, I say. I am, too.
[1:14:56] Speaker 4: I think this is going to be an exciting opening night.
[1:15:01] Speaker 5: Gil, you have a watch party at the house, man?
[1:15:03] Speaker 6: Who? You.
[1:15:04] Speaker 1: The Lakers ain't playing? The Lakers are playing tomorrow, baby.
[1:15:08] Speaker 1: That's what's part of tomorrow, man.
[1:15:10] Speaker 6: Huh?
[1:15:10] Speaker 1: Thought we had a watch party.
[1:15:11] Speaker 3: Yeah, man.
[1:15:12] Speaker 1: I'll be juggling tomorrow, baby. Okay, see? Juggling. Juggling what?
[1:15:17] Speaker 1: Extra glaze, baby.
[1:15:20] Speaker 6: I got the warm napkin on my team.
[1:15:22] Speaker 3: Huh?
[1:15:23] Speaker 1: This is greatness right here. Who do you think?
[1:15:25] Speaker 6: I can't help it if y'all ain't got real teams
[1:15:27] Speaker 6: to be a fan of.
[1:15:29] Speaker 3: Do we ever ask Josiah his picks?
[1:15:30] Speaker 6: No.
[1:15:31] Speaker 1: He's a LeBron fan. They don't care about him.
[1:15:33] Speaker 3: What's your pick, bro?
[1:15:34] Speaker 1: I'm going to go with LeBron. The Thunder.
[1:15:36] Speaker 3: Okay, so we've got four Thunder, one Spurs. Who else
[1:15:39] Speaker 3: did you pick for the other team?
[1:15:40] Speaker 1: I'm going to go with the Sixers. LeBron, Raymond, James, Sr.
[1:15:43] Speaker 1: Has not been successful in opening nights in recent years,
[1:15:45] Speaker 1: but that streak was great.
[1:15:46] Speaker 2: So one Sixer, four Knicks, okay. I'm going to be contrarian.
[1:15:49] Speaker 2: Contrary to Jay. But that was put that on something. Danny,
[1:15:51] Speaker 2: thank you for including me.
[1:15:52] Speaker 1: That was put that on something. You know the thing about,
[1:15:54] Speaker 1: I'm going to let you finish.
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[1:16:12] Speaker 6: Contrarian usually is wrong all the time.
[1:16:16] Speaker 3: Okay, we'll see.
[1:16:16] Speaker 6: And they just celebrate the one time they win.
[1:16:18] Speaker 1: That's all that matters.
[1:16:19] Speaker 6: They purposely go against right.
[1:16:22] Speaker 1: Well, you know what is right? It's the right time
[1:16:24] Speaker 1: for mostly fans.
[1:16:25] Speaker 3: There you go.
[1:16:27] Speaker 6: Is this the new one or old one?
[1:16:28] Speaker 1: This is still the old one. We don't know.
[1:16:30] Speaker 6: That was preseason shit. We ain't doing the same old shit. No, no, no.
[1:16:33] Speaker 1: No, oh shit. We're going to drop the screen down
[1:16:35] Speaker 1: for a second.
[1:16:36] Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, yeah.
[1:16:37] Speaker 6: We'll do one MostlyFans gig because we want to go
[1:16:38] Speaker 6: watch the game. No, we're not doing MostlyFans.
[1:16:40] Speaker 1: That was live.
[1:16:40] Speaker 6: We're not bringing the preseason game into the regular season game.
[1:16:45] Speaker 1: MostlyFans is just not MostlyFans. I'm going to read a
[1:16:48] Speaker 1: couple comments. We don't need to read none of that shit.
[1:16:51] Speaker 2: First one is from SickMyDuck underscore one. SickMyDuck underscore one.
[1:16:56] Speaker 2: NBA laziness is an extension of thinking we're all the same.
[1:16:59] Speaker 2: So NBA laziness is an extension of thinking we're all
[1:17:01] Speaker 2: the same. Thank you, SickMyDuck underscore one. We got Hoopla Watch.
[1:17:06] Speaker 2: Hoopla Watch said, the interviewer brought up KD both times.
[1:17:08] Speaker 2: Ishpia answered it the best way he could while being respectful.
[1:17:11] Speaker 2: The interviewer was the one targeting KD. CNBC trying to
[1:17:13] Speaker 2: get those numbers up just like we are here in
[1:17:15] Speaker 2: the arena. It wasn't Matt's fault, bro.
[1:17:17] Speaker 1: We have a comment from DeliveryGuy91.
[1:17:19] Speaker 2: Said, Joker has arguably been the best in the league
[1:17:22] Speaker 2: the past six years and y'all continue to bring up
[1:17:24] Speaker 2: one year and one playoff series.
[1:17:28] Speaker 3: What you mean?
[1:17:29] Speaker 1: I don't know.
[1:17:29] Speaker 3: What does he mean by that?
[1:17:30] Speaker 1: I don't know.
[1:17:30] Speaker 5: Well, I think because we were critical of Joker losing
[1:17:32] Speaker 5: in the first round last year.
[1:17:33] Speaker 1: Who was?
[1:17:34] Speaker 5: Yeah, but they've lost to Minnesota multiple years, and both
[1:17:38] Speaker 5: times they.
[1:17:39] Speaker 1: Were the favorites.
[1:17:40] Speaker 3: Yeah.
[1:17:40] Speaker 1: Oh, yeah.
[1:17:41] Speaker 3: And in the regular season, they've been dropping.
[1:17:43] Speaker 5: And truthfully, as much as I love... You know, I'm
[1:17:46] Speaker 5: rolling with my big brother. Jokic didn't play well in
[1:17:48] Speaker 5: that series last year either. This is the first time
[1:17:50] Speaker 5: I've seen Rudy stand up. Before they got to three,
[1:17:53] Speaker 5: they were like six most of the year. Weren't they
[1:17:54] Speaker 5: like six most of the year?
[1:17:56] Speaker 6: That's the funny part. We really do be picking and
[1:17:59] Speaker 6: choosing when to attack someone's legacy.
[1:18:04] Speaker 1: Not attack, critique. Critique. Like, the reason we know Jokic.
[1:18:09] Speaker 6: and we don't critique his teams is because we can
[1:18:13] Speaker 6: see they're not good. He has to average a triple-double
[1:18:17] Speaker 6: to compete, right, because they lost some key pieces.
[1:18:20] Speaker 5: He's the only person to win a championship without an all.
[1:18:22] Speaker 5: He didn't have an all anything. When he won that championship,
[1:18:25] Speaker 5: Murray hadn't been an all-star. They didn't have an all-NBA.
[1:18:29] Speaker 5: They didn't have an all-defensive player. He's the only guy.
[1:18:32] Speaker 5: Aaron Gordon went all?
[1:18:33] Speaker 6: No.
[1:18:36] Speaker 1: He didn't have an all nothing. So him losing. Really? Yep.
[1:18:39] Speaker 5: So Aaron Gordon was not all.
[1:18:40] Speaker 3: He's had a lot of games.
[1:18:41] Speaker 5: When they won that championship?
[1:18:43] Speaker 1: Nah, man. All yet the rules. and shit. I mean,
[1:18:45] Speaker 1: he's by far... No, we know.
[1:18:47] Speaker 5: I'm just saying, they didn't have nothing. I'm just saying,
[1:18:50] Speaker 5: they didn't have an all or nothing when they won
[1:18:51] Speaker 5: that game. Jamal was still.
[1:18:53] Speaker 3: He wasn't an all-star yet, but he was still an
[1:18:54] Speaker 3: all-star caliber player.
[1:18:56] Speaker 6: So you look at him when they're losing, and you're like,
[1:18:58] Speaker 6: you know what? He still gets credit for his wins,
[1:19:01] Speaker 6: and you don't take away his losers. Nobody's going to
[1:19:04] Speaker 6: ever say, oh, yeah, you kept losing the first round
[1:19:05] Speaker 6: after you won a championship.
[1:19:06] Speaker 1: Everybody's like, that motherfucker had a triple-double. Right. Mm-hmm. And
[1:19:09] Speaker 1: was still named the best player. Yeah, so you're.
[1:19:12] Speaker 6: Not going to criticize him because he's not close enough
[1:19:16] Speaker 6: to whoever they have as the number one center.
[1:19:19] Speaker 2: Danny said he wants to go watch the game, ladies
[1:19:21] Speaker 2: and gentlemen. That will conclude our Mostly Fans for today.
[1:19:23] Speaker 2: It's getting enthralling out there in Detroit between The Celtics
[1:19:28] Speaker 2: and the Pistons.
[1:19:28] Speaker 1: By the time we get back, the game's going to
[1:19:31] Speaker 1: be over, Dan.
[1:19:32] Speaker 6: We didn't want to watch this game anymore. We all
[1:19:35] Speaker 6: getting ready for that 4 o'clock.
[1:19:36] Speaker 2: We got two big games tonight. We appreciate everybody who said,
[1:19:39] Speaker 2: fuck the Celtics-Pistons game. We're coming to watch Gil's Arena
[1:19:41] Speaker 2: support it. All our fans, supporters out there, make sure
[1:19:44] Speaker 2: you hit that like button. If you have not done
[1:19:46] Speaker 2: so already, one last time before we wrap up today.
[1:19:48] Speaker 1: Appreciate you, everybody, in the chat. Appreciate everybody on this couch.
[1:19:51] Speaker 2: Appreciate our amazing crew for all the hard work that
[1:19:53] Speaker 2: they do. This has been another episode of Gil's Arena,
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[1:19:58] Speaker 3: Woo!
[1:19:59] Speaker 1: We'll see y'all tomorrow!

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