# LeBron & The Lakers' Collapse STUNS The Gil's Arena Crew

An episode of [Gil's Arena](https://invisiblenetwork.ai/podcast/1689097415), 29 Apr 2025, 2 h 37 min.

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Gil's Arena Reacts To An INSANE NBA Playoff Weekend as The Gil's Arena Crew returns to the arena to break down a wild weekend of NBA Playoff hoops. They kick off the show by reacting to the WILDEST 1st round game in quite some time as Nikola Jokic and the Denver Nuggets STUNNED Kawhi Leonard & The Los Angeles Clippers with a buzzer beating dunk and flipped the series on it's head in one shocking moment. They break down how the Clippers can slow down the Joker in the rest of the series and debate which team is in the driver's seat as the series tightens up. They then react to the New York Knicks taking hold of the series against the Detroit Pistons with massive wins in Games 3 & 4 and break down how Jalen Brunson & Karl Anthony Towns have been instrumental in carry the Knicks over a scrappy Piston's team. Next, they turn their attention to the biggest storyline of the weekend as the Los Angeles Lakers fell to the Minnesota Timberwolves in 3 straight games to put their NBA Playoff lives up in jeopardy. They give their biggest takeaways from the series, break down how Anthony Edwards is making another statement in the NBA Playoffs, analyze JJ Redick's decision to go with just 5 players in the 2nd half of Game 4 and discuss what LeBron James & Luka Doncic need to do to extend the series and avoid another 1st Round exit. Finally, The Gil's Arena Crew reacts to the Golden State Warriors pulling off a win without Jimmy Butler thanks to a huge night from Steph Curry and preview a pivotal Game 4 before discussing Sheduer Sanders' epic fall in the NFL Draft and compare the start of his career to another child of a Superstar athlete in Bronny James. Please give us a like and subscribe!!! Gil's Arena Crew - Josiah Johnson, Rashad McCants, Kenyon Martin & Nick Young Sign up for Underdog Fantasy HERE with promo code GIL and get up to $1000 in Bonus Credits and A FREE Pick: https://play.underdogfantasy.com/p-gil's-arena Slide into game changing comfort with MeUndies. Support the show by going to https://MeUndies.com/gil and use code GIL to get 20% off your first order, plus free shipping. MeUndies—comfort from the outside in. To get $15 off your first order and find out if prescription Ro Sparks are right for you. Connect with a provider at https://ro.co/ARENA Use our code for 10% off your next SeatGeek order https://seatgeek.onelink.me/RrnK/ARENA10 Sponsored by SeatGeek. Restrictions apply. Max $20 discount Join the Playback chat to interact with Gil and Josiah https://www.playback.tv/gilbertarenas SUBSCRIBE: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCAvjYgmwadC682OoC4Cc6TQ Join the Underdog discord for access to exclusive giveaways and promos! https://discord.gg/underdog 0:00:00 - 2 Min Countdown 0:01:57 - Show Start 0:02:41 - Update On Alijah Arenas 0:06:55 - The Nuggets Wild Buzzer Beater 0:34:41 - Can The Clippers Slow Down Joker? 0:46:13 - The Pistons Got ROBBED By The Refs 1:04:18 - Kat Has Proven The Knicks Won The Trade 1:15:52 - Will The Pistons Be A Problem In The Future? 1:23:32 - Steph & The Warriors Win Without Playoff Jimmy 1:28:27 - Steph Curry Is The GOAT 1:36:19 - What Happened To The Old Draymond 1:47:17 - Anthony Edwards Is Taking LeBron's Throne 2:08:12 - JJ Redick Doesn't Make Subs 2:16:46 - Sheduer Sanders SNUBBED By The NFL 2:33:40 - MostlyFans Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

## Transcript

[0:02] Speaker 1: Welcome back to Gil's Arena presented by Underdog.
[0:04] Speaker 2: Whoop, whoop. Whoop, whoop.
[0:07] Speaker 1: Good to be back here with everybody in the arena.
[0:09] Speaker 1: As you can see, Gil's not with us. We'll have
[0:11] Speaker 1: more on that in just a second. But this is
[0:14] Speaker 1: Gil's Arena presented by Underdog.
[0:15] Speaker 2: Whoop, whoop. We got NBA champion of the world, Swaggy P.
[0:18] Speaker 2: Nick Young is here with us. It was loud today.
[0:22] Speaker 2: I like it. I like that.
[0:24] Speaker 1: Next to Swaggy, the man known as Cemetery Larry, NCAA
[0:28] Speaker 1: champion Rashad McKinnon, back here with us.
[0:32] Speaker 2: We back.
[0:33] Speaker 1: And next to me, the distinguished gentleman from Oak Cliff,
[0:35] Speaker 1: former number one pick, Canyon Martin, back on the couch.
[0:38] Speaker 2: What's happening?
[0:43] Speaker 1: So like I said, Gil's not here with us today,
[0:45] Speaker 1: so as many of you know, this past Thursday, Gil's
[0:48] Speaker 1: son Elijah.
[0:50] Speaker 1: Was involved in a single car accident early in the morning.
[0:53] Speaker 1: He was coming back from the gym, getting ready to
[0:55] Speaker 1: go back, put some more work in the gym, lost
[0:58] Speaker 1: control of his car, suffered an accident. He was placed
[1:01] Speaker 1: in induced coma as a precautionary measure due to smoke inhalation.
[1:06] Speaker 2: As a result of the accident.
[1:07] Speaker 1: And so upon learning that news on Thursday, obviously we
[1:10] Speaker 1: made the choice to cancel the show. As made sense,
[1:13] Speaker 1: we were all heartbroken, devastated to learn that news. But
[1:17] Speaker 1: happy to announce that Elijah doing much better. Just got
[1:20] Speaker 1: off the phone with Gil about five minutes ago. Elijah
[1:23] Speaker 1: doing better, walking, talking, progressing very well. Should be released
[1:27] Speaker 1: from the hospital very soon. No major injuries as a
[1:30] Speaker 1: result of the car accident. So, you know, just thankful.
[1:33] Speaker 2: Obviously, I don't know.
[1:34] Speaker 1: Y'all religious out there, but, you know, we're all sending
[1:36] Speaker 1: prayers out these past couple days. Appreciate everybody that was
[1:39] Speaker 1: sending prayers to Gil and the family as well. So
[1:41] Speaker 1: want to continue to send those prayers out. And like
[1:43] Speaker 1: I said, Elijah should be out of the hospital very soon.
[1:45] Speaker 1: So just happy to hear that. Gil said he wanted
[1:49] Speaker 1: us to do a show today. He don't believe in
[1:51] Speaker 1: off days no matter what. So he said we got
[1:53] Speaker 1: to come back in the arena, do the show today.
[1:55] Speaker 1: So we're here to do all that. But for all
[1:57] Speaker 1: the fans out there, we still got two viewing options
[1:59] Speaker 1: for you. Our traditional version, mobile vertical version. Pick whichever
[2:01] Speaker 1: one you want to watch. Just make sure you support
[2:03] Speaker 1: the show. Here's what's cracking in the arena today. Nuggets
[2:07] Speaker 1: made history in what was easily one of the wildest
[2:09] Speaker 1: playoff games ever to even their series with the Clippers.
[2:12] Speaker 1: Does Denver have the mental edge heading into game five?
[2:17] Speaker 1: Warriors were without playoff Jimmy, but got a vintage performance
[2:20] Speaker 1: from Steph Curry to retake home court advantage from the Rockets.
[2:23] Speaker 1: Does Houston have a problem with or without Jimmy Buckets
[2:27] Speaker 1: on the floor? And Ant-Man dropped a 40-piece to stun
[2:31] Speaker 1: the Lakers as the Wolves took a 3-1 lead in
[2:33] Speaker 1: the series.
[2:34] Speaker 2: Are the purple and gold cooked? No, they are not.
[2:37] Speaker 2: We still have faith. I'm wavering.
[2:39] Speaker 1: But before we get into all that, as always, this
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[2:45] Speaker 1: plus a special pick-em as we're tonight. Cemetery Larry has
[2:48] Speaker 1: some picks up in his partner pack on the Underdog app.
[2:50] Speaker 1: Let's take a look if we can. So, Defensive Player
[2:54] Speaker 1: of the Year, Evan Mobley, higher, 16.5 points.
[2:58] Speaker 2: Got him. Davion Mitchell. Higher 12.5 points. Oh, no clapping
[3:03] Speaker 2: for that? We can clap for it. We got our
[3:05] Speaker 2: resident Cavs fans in here. Shout out Chuggs. Let them know, Chuggs.
[3:09] Speaker 2: Let them know. South East Cavs. I forgot about that.
[3:13] Speaker 2: Take it back. Take it back. In the building. Steph,
[3:16] Speaker 2: higher 27.5 points. Jimmy Butler. He playing, we know. You
[3:23] Speaker 2: ain't never.
[3:23] Speaker 1: We'll see. Lower 30.5 points, rebounds and assists. And Jalen Green,
[3:29] Speaker 1: higher 18.5 points. How's everybody feeling about these picks so far?
[3:32] Speaker 1: Still don't know Jimmy's status for the game, but.
[3:37] Speaker 2: Just take note that I just won last night, so... Okay.
[3:40] Speaker 2: That's all you need to know. How much bread did
[3:42] Speaker 2: you win, Shot? It was 156 times. Okay. Oh, because
[3:46] Speaker 2: the one pick X'd out? I'm saying that they... I
[3:50] Speaker 2: just bet a lot. Yeah, I respect it. You got
[3:52] Speaker 2: to take risks here. Exactly. You got to take the risk. Yeah.
[3:55] Speaker 2: Take risks here on the streets.
[3:56] Speaker 1: How everybody else feeling about Sha's picks for this lovely
[3:59] Speaker 1: playoff evening?
[4:00] Speaker 2: It's good. Jimmy's still hurt. He just left me out there.
[4:05] Speaker 3: You learned from Dame Leonard last time. Not to go higher.
[4:08] Speaker 3: I went lower last night.
[4:09] Speaker 2: I went lower. And, you know, praise up for Dame too, obviously.
[4:13] Speaker 2: Keeley's injury. I've been going through it.
[4:18] Speaker 1: But we asked the chat if they are riding or
[4:20] Speaker 1: fading with your picks. 58% of the chat riding with
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[4:56] Speaker 2: So let's start with this Nuggets Clippers series.
[4:59] Speaker 1: Clippers smacked the Nuggets in a 34-point blowout in Game
[5:02] Speaker 1: 3 in their first ever game in the Intuit Dome
[5:04] Speaker 1: to take a 2-1 series lead. Denver had their backs
[5:07] Speaker 1: against the wall in Game 4, desperate for a win
[5:09] Speaker 1: to avoid going down 3-1. And they would have to
[5:11] Speaker 1: do it without Russell Westbrook, who was sidelined with a
[5:14] Speaker 1: foot injury after missing the second half of Game 3.
[5:17] Speaker 1: Nuggets still had Jokic, though, and even when he missed,
[5:21] Speaker 1: He couldn't miss. So let's take a look at some
[5:22] Speaker 1: of the highlights. We'll pick it up into the second quarter.
[5:26] Speaker 1: James Harden took exception to a Christian Brown foul.
[5:29] Speaker 2: Melee ensued.
[5:31] Speaker 1: Aaron Gordon and Harden had to be separated after exchanging pushes.
[5:35] Speaker 1: Six players getting text as a result of this melee. Harden,
[5:38] Speaker 1: Norm Powell, Chris Dunn for the Clippers. Aaron Gordon, Christian Brown,
[5:42] Speaker 1: and Yogi for the Nuggets came out of melee.
[5:43] Speaker 2: Can you stop using fucking words that don't fit? Altercation? Altercation? Okay.
[5:49] Speaker 2: He took off. He took off on him. A little melee.
[5:54] Speaker 2: A scrum? No, no. No. That's the best ears. A disagreement.
[5:59] Speaker 2: A scrum in rugby is way more contact than that.
[6:01] Speaker 2: Verbal fisticuffs.
[6:03] Speaker 1: So Denver came out firing the second half, outscoring the
[6:05] Speaker 1: Clippers 35-17 in the third. Another dominant third quarter, 16 points,
[6:10] Speaker 1: 8 rebounds, and 4 assists in the period. While the
[6:12] Speaker 1: Clippers had 17 points, 8 rebounds, and 4 assists as
[6:15] Speaker 1: a team. Joker came just short of dropping his third
[6:17] Speaker 1: straight triple-double. He had 36 points, 21 rebounds, 8 assists,
[6:20] Speaker 1: and 2 steals while shooting 56% from the field. So
[6:24] Speaker 1: MBJ and Christian Brown both had 17 points. Jamal Murray,
[6:27] Speaker 1: another off-shooting night, 13-7-7 on 5-17 shooting. Aaron Gordon, 14-6,
[6:29] Speaker 1: boards and 5 dimes. Two of the biggest points of
[6:35] Speaker 1: the game, but we'll have more on that shortly. Kawhi
[6:37] Speaker 1: had 24-9 boards for the Clippers. Avisa Zubak, another double-double, 19-12,
[6:41] Speaker 1: six assists. So Nuggets led by as much as 22
[6:44] Speaker 1: early in the fourth quarter before the Clippers came storming back,
[6:46] Speaker 1: going on a 30-9 run, including a stretch where they
[6:49] Speaker 1: scored 12 straight points to take a one-point lead with
[6:51] Speaker 1: a little over a minute remaining in the game. Like
[6:55] Speaker 1: I said, Norm Powell came up big in the fourth quarter,
[6:56] Speaker 1: scoring nine of his 22 points.
[6:58] Speaker 2: Three huge threes.
[7:00] Speaker 1: With the game tied at 97, Joker hit a fadeaway
[7:04] Speaker 1: in Zubac's grill to give the Nuggets a two-point lead,
[7:07] Speaker 1: 16 seconds remaining. Ensuing Clippers possession, Zubac tipped in a
[7:10] Speaker 1: hard miss to even things back up. And on the Nuggets'
[7:14] Speaker 1: final possession, Jokic airballed a 26-footer, but Aaron Gordon turned
[7:19] Speaker 1: it into an alley-oop, dunking the ball through the rim
[7:20] Speaker 1: as time expired. Play was reviewed. Let's take a look.
[7:26] Speaker 1: That's too close to call. Aaron Gordon heads up play.
[7:32] Speaker 1: Getting the ball through the rim, hands off the ball.
[7:36] Speaker 1: The play was reviewed, caught on the floor, stood. Game Nuggets,
[7:39] Speaker 1: first game-winning buzzer-beating dunk in NBA playoff history. As you
[7:45] Speaker 1: can see, Nuggets extremely excited about that. Obviously, Clippers devastated.
[7:49] Speaker 1: Series now tied 2-2 as they go back to Denver.
[7:51] Speaker 1: So after the game, Gordon and Joker had this reaction
[7:54] Speaker 1: to the series-altering play.
[7:56] Speaker 2: They're calling this the first playoff buzzer-beating dunk in NBA history.
[8:00] Speaker 2: What does it feel like to make a shot like that?
[8:02] Speaker 2: It's a nice pass. Yes. So, Joker, was it a pass? No. So,
[8:18] Speaker 2: just how close was Gordon's game-winner?
[8:26] Speaker 1: Let's take a look. So, we got high angle slow-mo.
[8:30] Speaker 1: Back and to the left. Back and to the left.
[8:33] Speaker 1: Back and to the left. You can see he gets
[8:34] Speaker 1: his fingers off the ball just as the clock expired
[8:38] Speaker 1: and backboard LED lights activated.
[8:41] Speaker 2: If he wouldn't have grabbed the rim, it wouldn't have
[8:42] Speaker 2: been close. Just tip it. Just drop the bitch in.
[8:45] Speaker 2: He's supposed to drop it in there. Yeah, if he
[8:48] Speaker 2: would have dropped the bitch in, it wouldn't have been
[8:50] Speaker 2: because his hand would have been off the ball already.
[8:52] Speaker 2: Thank God for It's the replay. I guess. Benefits some teams,
[8:59] Speaker 2: not others.
[9:00] Speaker 1: But nonetheless, how devastating was this loss for the Clippers
[9:04] Speaker 1: after battling back in the fourth quarter? Like I said,
[9:06] Speaker 1: down 22 early in the fourth quarter, make a huge run,
[9:08] Speaker 1: take a lead.
[9:09] Speaker 2: Action. He played for the Clippers. He still got some
[9:12] Speaker 2: of that DNA all over his mouth. I should have
[9:15] Speaker 2: shot for it. The slippers. I should have shot for it, man.
[9:18] Speaker 2: I'll go over time.
[9:20] Speaker 3: That's the best series in the playoffs right now. Best
[9:24] Speaker 3: by far. Most entertaining.
[9:27] Speaker 4: And my thing is, it wouldn't have got that far, right? Well,
[9:30] Speaker 4: it probably would have scored. Denver got a foul to give, right?
[9:36] Speaker 4: You let James get to his left hand and get a,
[9:38] Speaker 4: for the Zubac tip in. So no one, listen, go
[9:43] Speaker 4: for a steal. As soon as he get ready to
[9:45] Speaker 4: go down here, like, we going for the ball. They
[9:48] Speaker 4: got to take the ball out on the side. Then
[9:50] Speaker 4: you got less time. Then you never probably get, so
[9:52] Speaker 4: you up two already. You let James get to his left.
[9:56] Speaker 4: file that man before he, as soon as he get
[9:59] Speaker 4: ready to go into his move and go down here,
[10:01] Speaker 4: I'm going to reach for the, I'm trying to go
[10:02] Speaker 4: for the steal.
[10:03] Speaker 2: You might get the ball, they might not call it,
[10:04] Speaker 2: you never know. Here's what's bothering me. What?
[10:08] Speaker 5: If you give Zubat the ball in a pick and
[10:10] Speaker 5: roll at the free throw line, what is he going
[10:12] Speaker 5: to do with it?
[10:13] Speaker 2: Pass. He's going to shoot that bullshit ass floater. And
[10:16] Speaker 2: or pass it. Right. He passing. If us three are coaches, right,
[10:23] Speaker 2: and we're seeing that that's going to be our little
[10:26] Speaker 2: game plan for the first half to see what he do. Zubat? Yeah.
[10:30] Speaker 2: But the first thing we got to do.
[10:31] Speaker 5: Though, as a team, we got to tell our bigs,
[10:34] Speaker 5: stop the fucking ball in the pick and roll. All
[10:37] Speaker 5: this fake, and it's allowing Kawhi and James to turn
[10:42] Speaker 5: the corner slowly to slow roll the Zubats while he
[10:45] Speaker 5: at the front of the rim. Instead of, blitz them,
[10:49] Speaker 5: get them to pick the ball up, throw it to
[10:50] Speaker 5: Zubat early.
[10:51] Speaker 2: You can't blitz with Joker, though. Why you can't? You
[10:54] Speaker 2: can blitz with any big. Just get out of drop coverage.
[10:57] Speaker 2: You got to do too much. I mean, not as fast.
[11:00] Speaker 5: But look, you getting out of drop coverage, can you know?
[11:04] Speaker 5: Show how to stay high. Show how to stay high.
[11:06] Speaker 5: Show how to stay high.
[11:09] Speaker 2: The space is different, though. Yeah. What's the difference? They
[11:12] Speaker 2: don't roll and replace and all that shit.
[11:14] Speaker 5: Of course not, because the middle guy is the playmaker,
[11:17] Speaker 5: but that's not Zubac.
[11:19] Speaker 2: Zubac is not the playmaker. We want him to have
[11:21] Speaker 2: the ball.
[11:22] Speaker 5: Ain't no rolling rise on the weak side now because
[11:24] Speaker 5: he's just slow rolling.
[11:26] Speaker 2: Yeah, you want him to ball, like, I want the
[11:29] Speaker 2: ball in his hand. Stop the pick and roll, though.
[11:31] Speaker 2: When it's on the line, like, Joker, dude, when you
[11:33] Speaker 2: tell him he got to, he will, but the game
[11:35] Speaker 2: plan is, like, when he has to, he will. Like,
[11:39] Speaker 2: we've seen them do it. Yeah, for sure.
[11:41] Speaker 4: So we've seen them do it. But I'm just talking
[11:42] Speaker 4: about in their situation, they had a foul to give.
[11:46] Speaker 4: And you don't use it.
[11:47] Speaker 5: The whole current of the game was a whole pattern
[11:53] Speaker 5: that played out in the fourth. The way they was
[11:55] Speaker 5: guarding it, the way they was guarding it. They got
[11:57] Speaker 5: lucky at the end. Denver did. But I think.
[12:00] Speaker 2: Yeah, the way they're guarding. Yeah, better lucky than good.
[12:03] Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying, man? The way they planned it.
[12:06] Speaker 2: God damn. They gave it up. Yeah.
[12:08] Speaker 4: Better lucky than good. They was up 22, so better
[12:10] Speaker 4: lucky than good sometime, brother. Yoga shot hits the rim. Obviously,
[12:13] Speaker 4: it's a different story game. It goes to overtime. Clippers
[12:16] Speaker 4: had the momentum at that point. No Nutella would have
[12:18] Speaker 4: carried over into overtime.
[12:19] Speaker 3: For Denver, they have to guard better to beat the Clippers.
[12:23] Speaker 3: They got to play better offensively. They ain't got nobody
[12:26] Speaker 3: that can guard them guys. They have to do it collectively.
[12:30] Speaker 5: They can't depend on nobody individually because, like you said,
[12:33] Speaker 5: they ain't got nobody.
[12:35] Speaker 2: I mean, Peyton Watson can be in the way of Kawhi,
[12:37] Speaker 2: but he ain't no stopper. Yeah, of course. And Aaron Gordon,
[12:42] Speaker 2: he wants to guard him.
[12:43] Speaker 1: Yeah.
[12:44] Speaker 5: But you need Aaron Gordon to be your mic back.
[12:47] Speaker 5: You need him to be your interceptor. He needs to
[12:49] Speaker 5: play the Draymond position. So he can't be out there
[12:52] Speaker 5: trying to be.
[12:52] Speaker 3: A stopper because Joker is not a defender. So you're
[12:58] Speaker 3: basically telling Kenyon to go out there and guard Kobe
[13:01] Speaker 3: and we got nobody back here if Kenyon get beat.
[13:05] Speaker 3: So that's the situation they in as well. What do
[13:08] Speaker 3: you do in that situation? But yeah, man, he's He
[13:13] Speaker 3: got took off on, so the basketball guys, like, helped
[13:15] Speaker 3: him score.
[13:18] Speaker 2: You know, that late nigga, bop, socked him, right? He's like, oh, man, ah.
[13:22] Speaker 2: And the guys said, you know, we're going to reward
[13:24] Speaker 2: you at the end. And, you know. Should have went
[13:27] Speaker 2: to overtime, though. We're going to get to the Lakers
[13:29] Speaker 2: in a second. I would have let them win in overtime.
[13:31] Speaker 2: We're going to get to the Lakers in a second.
[13:32] Speaker 2: Many of the playoff games are talking. We're going to
[13:34] Speaker 2: talk about God yet. We're going to talk about God yet.
[13:36] Speaker 2: God is everywhere. God is good all the time. We
[13:39] Speaker 2: ain't almost there yet. No, you just got to look
[13:41] Speaker 2: at totality of the play, man. This is that guys.
[13:44] Speaker 4: Don't play complete basketball, man.
[13:48] Speaker 2: Talk about it.
[13:50] Speaker 4: Listen, man, this game that we play, that we love,
[13:54] Speaker 4: that we cherish– it's more than one thing that goes
[13:58] Speaker 4: on out there, man. You just can't be a scorer, man.
[14:01] Speaker 4: You just can't be a, okay, I deflect passes on defense. Man,
[14:05] Speaker 4: you got to do it all. And if you look
[14:07] Speaker 4: at the play, you got two guys just standing there
[14:10] Speaker 4: looking up at the fucking ball. Ain't nobody touching the soul.
[14:13] Speaker 2: You probably be doing the same shit. Yeah, because I'm like, please, guys,
[14:16] Speaker 2: don't let this go. But if you don't, you still
[14:19] Speaker 2: got to box out. You got to box out. Or
[14:20] Speaker 2: at least somebody next to you.
[14:22] Speaker 5: Listen, I ain't going to power forward, dawg. His mentality,
[14:27] Speaker 5: game on the line. I'm going to the glass, man.
[14:29] Speaker 5: I don't give a fuck if it's late, whatever. I'm
[14:31] Speaker 5: going to the glass. Both teams didn't box out.
[14:35] Speaker 2: Yeah, but no. Two putbacks to come back. It was
[14:38] Speaker 2: like back to back.
[14:39] Speaker 5: But I'm saying, so if they take the foul, Nikola
[14:44] Speaker 5: doesn't have to come over to help.
[14:45] Speaker 4: His body is still on Zubac. He don't have to
[14:47] Speaker 4: come over and help in that situation. Kawhi running at
[14:53] Speaker 4: Nikola for what in that situation?
[14:57] Speaker 2: What you running at him for? He's going to shoot it.
[14:58] Speaker 2: There's nothing you can do in that moment. Yeah, and
[15:01] Speaker 2: that makes it a two-on-one.
[15:02] Speaker 4: So it's a lot of shit that's going on on
[15:05] Speaker 4: this play that you like, dude, like, this is the playoff.
[15:11] Speaker 2: Are we trying to win or not? You got to
[15:13] Speaker 2: be in tune to that shit. To them 48, it's over, man.
[15:17] Speaker 2: If you're not, as we proved, man. That's something we
[15:20] Speaker 2: got to say.
[15:21] Speaker 4: You got to play because they played to point one, man.
[15:24] Speaker 2: Do we got to say it in the fucking huddle? Hey, man. Hey, man.
[15:28] Speaker 2: Shot go up.
[15:29] Speaker 5: Hey, make sure you box out and secure the rebound.
[15:32] Speaker 2: Put a body on somebody out, though. They ain't calling
[15:34] Speaker 2: no foul right there. No. It's a tie game. All right.
[15:37] Speaker 2: It's a tie game. You can box out. So listen.
[15:39] Speaker 2: That's why I'm going to the glass that hard. Yeah.
[15:42] Speaker 5: I'm going to the glass like I'm running through a,
[15:45] Speaker 5: like I'm playing football at this point.
[15:47] Speaker 2: Because you can get a foul. They not calling.
[15:48] Speaker 5: You can Reggie Evans get a foul just going to
[15:51] Speaker 5: go up to the glass.
[15:52] Speaker 2: And they hit you. Yeah, you go up and they
[15:53] Speaker 2: try to hold me down. You foul. Ah! and all
[15:56] Speaker 2: that shit. No, you got to put yourself in winning situations. Man. Well,
[16:01] Speaker 2: then they want certain teams to win.
[16:05] Speaker 5: It was a tight game, though. And then Joker took
[16:07] Speaker 5: a bad shot on the tight game. You bailed him
[16:10] Speaker 5: out by not boxing out.
[16:11] Speaker 2: Yeah. We've seen that all yesterday. I mean, that's a
[16:13] Speaker 2: terrible possession. Terrible. But that's the possession you want if
[16:16] Speaker 2: you're the Clippers. Yes, if you're the Clippers. We did
[16:19] Speaker 2: our job.
[16:20] Speaker 5: Except for, we looked at the film and we're like, Kawhi,
[16:24] Speaker 5: you did a great job coming over.
[16:26] Speaker 2: Can we see the box? Yeah, play the last bit
[16:29] Speaker 2: where he's shooting. Kawhi, we're in film. We're like, everybody
[16:32] Speaker 2: did their job except for James. What are you doing, James?
[16:38] Speaker 2: James is a cult. Let me know. Take a look. Oh,
[16:42] Speaker 2: we're at the end. Yeah. Oh, yeah. To the Joker shot.
[16:45] Speaker 2: Watch out. Watch this. Watch out. Bam! We have space-age
[16:50] Speaker 2: technology here in the arena. Boom, bop, bam. So that's
[16:55] Speaker 2: all you're hearing. Boom, bop, bam. It's even better in
[17:03] Speaker 2: triple speed. I'm not going to lie. It's killing, bro. Damn,
[17:07] Speaker 2: they good. Such a beautiful game. That was a hell
[17:11] Speaker 2: of a shot. Right here, pal. All right. Look at
[17:14] Speaker 2: them dudes. James Harden. That's what I thought. And Norm Powell.
[17:18] Speaker 2: Norm got two. Look, Norm looked. See, Norm did what
[17:21] Speaker 2: you're supposed to do. Turn and look. Now old shit
[17:25] Speaker 2: kicks in.
[17:26] Speaker 5: And look, Aaron, if Aaron don't get it, guess who
[17:28] Speaker 5: got a chance to get it?
[17:29] Speaker 2: Christian Brown. Who's pesky? Listen, hey. And he the guard
[17:34] Speaker 2: version of Aaron Gordon. You realize you don't box out.
[17:37] Speaker 2: He's thinking that too. Old shit kicks in. Old shit.
[17:40] Speaker 2: That's his line. Then you look up and you see him.
[17:42] Speaker 2: You look up, see him in the air. That's a
[17:45] Speaker 2: tough situation, man. That's a great contest by Zubac. Yes,
[17:49] Speaker 2: he was going to contest it like that anyway. He
[17:52] Speaker 2: tried it on the move. But either way, Kawhi, he
[17:56] Speaker 2: wasn't going to try to go by him in that situation.
[17:58] Speaker 2: He waited too long. Bucky should go in there and
[18:00] Speaker 2: get the rebound, but he had the top of the
[18:02] Speaker 2: key with Murray. So you only got James Harden as
[18:06] Speaker 2: the only one. He your first line of defense. That's tough.
[18:09] Speaker 2: You don't think that. He's like, oh, shit, it's long. Man. Right? Man. Hey. Man.
[18:16] Speaker 4: Listen, when you tip-dunk shit for a living, you can
[18:20] Speaker 4: judge that thing.
[18:21] Speaker 2: Off that rim, man. Think about that. James didn't see it.
[18:25] Speaker 2: He seen it late. But he seen it. Yeah, yeah. Oh, shit.
[18:33] Speaker 2: You know when it's long, dog. Wow. Because he trying
[18:37] Speaker 2: to block that shit. A lot easier for us to
[18:40] Speaker 2: see in real time. But James is trying to block that, though.
[18:43] Speaker 2: Why would James try to block it if it's a shot? Listen, bro.
[18:48] Speaker 5: He's smart enough to know it was short, but he
[18:50] Speaker 5: didn't get the box out.
[18:51] Speaker 3: No, that's not true. He can't get that. Only Gordon
[18:53] Speaker 3: can get that pass. So why he jump and try?
[18:55] Speaker 3: Why he jump and try?
[18:57] Speaker 2: Of course he gonna jump and try. Oh, shit kicked in. Yeah,
[19:00] Speaker 2: he got to live too late. Man, look how high
[19:02] Speaker 2: that ball was. Watch your head. Watch your head. Not
[19:08] Speaker 2: on James to not box out. Norm Powell, obviously. Norm
[19:10] Speaker 2: Powell both of them.
[19:11] Speaker 5: Norm Powell guarding two. He has two, yeah. The way
[19:14] Speaker 5: I see it, Norm looked and he's like, all right, my.
[19:16] Speaker 2: Man ain't going. Look, now there's two people behind. But
[19:18] Speaker 2: he didn't see the left. He didn't see. He didn't
[19:21] Speaker 2: look left. He only looked to the right. I dig it.
[19:23] Speaker 2: He didn't look to the left. But look, James knew.
[19:26] Speaker 2: He didn't help, man. Go back to the. It's hard
[19:30] Speaker 2: to get. Can you rewind to the other angle, Paolo?
[19:33] Speaker 2: Be smart. What's the help? Joker not driving. But, yeah.
[19:38] Speaker 2: Go back when Nikola getting ready to shoot it. Yeah. Like,
[19:43] Speaker 2: go back to when.
[19:44] Speaker 5: Norm in the skip pass position, though. Norm is preparing
[19:47] Speaker 5: for the skip pass.
[19:48] Speaker 2: Nikola not passing the ball. And he not. Fuck is you...
[19:50] Speaker 2: You gotta know that in this situation. But that's the
[19:52] Speaker 2: position he in. Man, shot, bro. So go back, go
[19:55] Speaker 2: back some more. Go back some more. <HAL> <HAL> <HAL> <HAL> <HAL> <HAL> <HAL> <HAL> <HAL> <HAL> <HAL> <HAL> <HAL> <HAL> <HAL> <HAL>
[19:59] Speaker 2: All right. Go rewind the play. Go rewind the play.
[20:03] Speaker 2: Keep going. Just keep rewinding back on this angle, please, Pau. Yes, please. Yeah,
[20:09] Speaker 2: there you go. Don't do that. Ladies and gentlemen, the
[20:17] Speaker 2: in-depth coverage you come to expect here on Bills Arena
[20:19] Speaker 2: presented by Underdog Woo Woo. All right, stop it. Stop it.
[20:23] Speaker 2: Where we at? Now, we see our position. See? Now, look,
[20:27] Speaker 2: we got the ball on the left. Everybody in hell
[20:30] Speaker 2: right now. Stop. Stop it. Go idea what he's supposed
[20:33] Speaker 2: to do right there. But.
[20:35] Speaker 5: Because Boggy can literally rotate. Because he's thinking he turned
[20:39] Speaker 5: his back to him.
[20:39] Speaker 2: He's not going to see me. It's full rotation, too. Yes.
[20:42] Speaker 2: Full rotation. So Norm is up for Christian Brown, but
[20:44] Speaker 2: Christian dives. Yeah. But he's in front of you now.
[20:47] Speaker 2: Now he in front of me. Now you see him.
[20:49] Speaker 2: Hold on. But do I see him? No, no, but
[20:51] Speaker 2: you see him. I do see him. And he's going.
[20:53] Speaker 2: He moves. And he goes. Christian Brown moves. Yes. All right.
[20:56] Speaker 5: But it's still 2.8 on the clock. Now he's moving,
[20:59] Speaker 5: and look where he at now. It's 2.8, so I'm Norm.
[21:02] Speaker 2: I'm passing. Hold on, stop. Norm is passing on to James. Right,
[21:06] Speaker 2: hold on.
[21:06] Speaker 5: But James is Gordon. Gordon first and foremost. And he's
[21:10] Speaker 5: not low enough right now.
[21:11] Speaker 2: Not at all. He's not low enough. This is a problem.
[21:14] Speaker 2: This is a problem. I already said that. Because Nicole
[21:16] Speaker 2: is not going to pass the ball to Christian Brown
[21:18] Speaker 2: in the middle of the paint right now. And Norm
[21:20] Speaker 2: is thinking he's passing him off to James. Absolutely. James
[21:23] Speaker 2: is not looking at him. James is not seeing nothing
[21:26] Speaker 2: behind him. If you are passing him off to James,
[21:29] Speaker 2: you got to take Gordon. You got to drop back.
[21:32] Speaker 2: You got to take Gordon. Absolutely.
[21:34] Speaker 5: Now you're giving up Michael Porton. If you skip it,
[21:36] Speaker 5: it ain't enough time.
[21:37] Speaker 2: We good with that.
[21:39] Speaker 5: We're living with it. Derek Fisher, you got a 2.2. Yeah,
[21:43] Speaker 5: to get the ball cross-quarter, MPJ. Off one leg, behind
[21:48] Speaker 5: the back.
[21:48] Speaker 2: You know the way Michael Porter, it's going to take him.
[21:50] Speaker 2: He got to, yeah, yeah. It's a lot to it.
[21:52] Speaker 2: We're going to overtime. He's going to overtime.
[21:56] Speaker 4: He's not catching it high, so it's, he got the
[21:59] Speaker 4: leg kick, and he got to get his shit together
[22:01] Speaker 4: before he shoot it.
[22:02] Speaker 5: And you know, like, and who, world, Aaron Gordon. This
[22:07] Speaker 5: is his dream position, where he at right now. He's
[22:09] Speaker 5: reading that bitch like, oh, yeah, this is easy. We
[22:12] Speaker 5: live for that.
[22:12] Speaker 2: This is easy. We live for the dunker, dog. With
[22:17] Speaker 2: nobody to box me at all? We're taking the time
[22:19] Speaker 2: running out. James is thinking that Bron is Gordon right now.
[22:26] Speaker 2: He never looked behind him. If James really tried to
[22:29] Speaker 2: box him out, it would have been a... If he
[22:31] Speaker 2: tries to box him out, he might have boxed him
[22:33] Speaker 2: into Gordon. That's fine. I'm just saying. He can't jump. Yeah,
[22:37] Speaker 2: that part. He can't jump. He ain't going to jump
[22:39] Speaker 2: and get that. He can't jump and do this. He's
[22:41] Speaker 2: going to have to throw it in. He's got to
[22:42] Speaker 2: go over my back.
[22:43] Speaker 4: It's going to be a wrestling match before. You've got
[22:46] Speaker 4: to get into his body beforehand. In these situations, we need.
[22:50] Speaker 5: A body on a body. Right when that ball goes up.
[22:54] Speaker 5: We need a body on a body. And Kawhi put
[22:56] Speaker 5: it like it's. Our one big man is out there
[23:00] Speaker 5: guarding the big man. Our second big man is out
[23:02] Speaker 5: there guarding the big man. Now we got cars down here.
[23:04] Speaker 5: They held the clock.
[23:09] Speaker 2: Look, it's. 5 seconds on the clock. It's my first
[23:12] Speaker 2: time hearing.
[23:14] Speaker 1: That.
[23:14] Speaker 2: First time I heard that was the game. They held
[23:17] Speaker 2: the clock. It's. 5. He's still in the air.. 5
[23:21] Speaker 2: on the clock. Shot the ball. It was a minute.
[23:24] Speaker 4: It was one second when he shot it. It was
[23:26] Speaker 4: one second when he shot. The ball was in the
[23:28] Speaker 4: air forever.
[23:29] Speaker 2: So you mean to tell me you could do this
[23:31] Speaker 2: in 0.2 seconds? You seen it. You seen it. In
[23:36] Speaker 2: slow motion, they did it. Jump, gather, get it. Yeah,
[23:38] Speaker 2: you ain't have to gather. You ain't got to do shit.
[23:40] Speaker 2: The ball was right at the rim. Like I said,
[23:42] Speaker 2: if he wouldn't have tried.
[23:42] Speaker 4: To grab the rim, it would have been like 0.2 still.
[23:46] Speaker 5: You would go this far to try to defend your
[23:48] Speaker 5: man for not boxing out?
[23:51] Speaker 2: Game's over, man. They cheated him. Damn.
[23:54] Speaker 3: They cheated my dog. After you get took off on,
[23:57] Speaker 3: they feel sorry for him, you know?
[23:59] Speaker 2: He got took off on? Yeah, he got took off on.
[24:03] Speaker 2: He got took off on in practice by his own teammate.
[24:05] Speaker 2: Then he got took off on. Who took off on him?
[24:07] Speaker 2: You seen him in the first game. Eyes black and lips,
[24:10] Speaker 2: you know... There was some question about... Are you sure
[24:14] Speaker 2: that's what happened, Nick? Are you sure that's what happened, Nick?
[24:15] Speaker 2: Or are you just spreading rumors and lies? I'm not sure.
[24:18] Speaker 2: You know, there's a lot of people watching this show.
[24:20] Speaker 2: You know who C is sitting there, right? What else happened, though?
[24:23] Speaker 2: You know who C is sitting there, right? You do
[24:25] Speaker 2: know there's a lot of people that watch this show, right?
[24:27] Speaker 2: They're still rubbing off on you. They're still rubbing off
[24:30] Speaker 2: on you.
[24:30] Speaker 3: All right, so you said you had an allergic reaction
[24:33] Speaker 3: where your eye get puffy and your.
[24:34] Speaker 2: Lip get puffy on the side? I don't know. I've
[24:37] Speaker 2: never seen that allergic reaction. What does that have to
[24:39] Speaker 2: do with the dunk? What does that have to do
[24:40] Speaker 2: with the win? He got took off on. They feeling
[24:42] Speaker 2: sorry for him. The basketball guys felt sorry for Eric
[24:44] Speaker 2: Gordon and allowed him.
[24:45] Speaker 1: To make history with his game-winning buzzer beating.
[24:49] Speaker 2: In their locker room still. And it's like, get back
[24:52] Speaker 2: to James. It's all in one, you know? Your mom
[24:54] Speaker 2: used to tell you to shut up a lot, right?
[25:00] Speaker 2: Shut up, Nick. Shut up. From the whole other room.
[25:03] Speaker 2: From the whole other room. Shut up, Nick. You still
[25:08] Speaker 2: talking in there? Yeah, yeah. She had to. Teacher come
[25:12] Speaker 2: all the way downstairs. Yeah, absolutely. She got company. She
[25:15] Speaker 2: said to go to the room. Nick, go to your room.
[25:16] Speaker 2: Shut up.
[25:17] Speaker 5: Right, because you're not going to be talking like that
[25:19] Speaker 5: in front of my company.
[25:23] Speaker 2: Hey, fuck y'all. We're going to take your little ass upstairs, Nick.
[25:27] Speaker 2: I'm going to bring your sandwich upstairs. Stop coming down here. Oh, man.
[25:32] Speaker 2: Nick talking to his goddamn imaginary friend over here. I
[25:35] Speaker 2: told you they didn't want to fix those sandwiches. I
[25:38] Speaker 2: don't know why you would ask me for that in
[25:41] Speaker 2: front of her. Like, you know, like who are you
[25:44] Speaker 2: talking about, Nick? Me and my friends. You ain't got
[25:48] Speaker 2: no damn friends, boy. You ain't been outside in two weeks.
[25:53] Speaker 2: What friends you been playing with? Cedric and... Cedric and Rodney.
[25:58] Speaker 2: Cedric and Rodney. Like, I still support you. I still
[26:07] Speaker 2: support you. I can't breathe. Oh, my Lord.
[26:13] Speaker 1: Like, you're in control of the smoke now in Gil's absence,
[26:16] Speaker 1: all right?
[26:16] Speaker 2: Yeah. Cedric and Rodney. Cedric and Rodney. Make three sandwiches.
[26:19] Speaker 2: I want three sandwiches. Okay. She picked it in the
[26:33] Speaker 2: West Grove. Because every time she come in, she got
[26:38] Speaker 2: the same sandwich. Who took a bite out of it?
[26:41] Speaker 2: Where the hell is Rodney?
[26:44] Speaker 5: I'm not fixing no more sandwiches for these niggas. They
[26:49] Speaker 5: got to go home, Nick. Can't stay the night no more.
[26:57] Speaker 2: Oh, shit. The chat is imploring you to fight back. Oh, shit.
[27:00] Speaker 2: I can't breathe. My bad. I didn't mean to. We
[27:03] Speaker 2: have diverted. You know I love you, right? But like
[27:05] Speaker 2: we said, obviously. That was a good one.
[27:08] Speaker 1: Hindsight 2020. You can go back and watch the slow-mo
[27:10] Speaker 1: break it down.
[27:11] Speaker 2: No, you got to be responsible, man. But, you know,
[27:13] Speaker 2: you don't anticipate. You should get your feet all the time. Exactly.
[27:15] Speaker 2: But you don't anticipate Jokic airballing. No, you should. But
[27:19] Speaker 2: you have to have. Listen, the game is on the line, man. Yeah.
[27:23] Speaker 2: So do whatever you got to do to get to OT. No, we.
[27:26] Speaker 2: You boxing out for sure. So we played this. You
[27:28] Speaker 2: boxing out.
[27:29] Speaker 5: You don't want it to be the thing you look
[27:31] Speaker 5: back and say that's what we did.
[27:32] Speaker 2: Yeah. We didn't do that. We didn't do that in
[27:34] Speaker 2: the championship game in the finals. Which one? And with
[27:38] Speaker 2: the words. Miami Heat. Tim Duncan. Oh, yeah. Offensive rebound.
[27:44] Speaker 2: Kick out. Didn't box out.
[27:46] Speaker 1: We saw the impact that had on the Spurs moving
[27:49] Speaker 1: forward in that series.
[27:50] Speaker 2: It's a little thing. There's a 48-minute game. We all
[27:53] Speaker 2: know that. There's plays to be made and missed all
[27:56] Speaker 2: game long. We know that.
[27:58] Speaker 4: But we as, when you're in this and them last two,
[28:03] Speaker 4: three minutes of the game, four minutes when it's this, Like,
[28:07] Speaker 4: you got to be locked in, man, to all of it, right?
[28:11] Speaker 4: Whatever the game plan was, whatever, if it's changed throughout
[28:15] Speaker 4: the game, if we didn't switch our pick and roll coverage,
[28:18] Speaker 4: if we double teaming this guy now, if we didn't
[28:20] Speaker 4: drop coverage now, whatever we have switched throughout the game
[28:24] Speaker 4: and whatever it's supposed to be, them lads in the
[28:26] Speaker 4: fourth quarter.
[28:29] Speaker 2: You have to be, like, A1 with it, man.
[28:33] Speaker 4: You, like, I know there's no such thing as perfect,
[28:38] Speaker 4: but you want to be close to perfect as you
[28:40] Speaker 4: can possibly be, y'all, when the game.
[28:41] Speaker 2: On the line. Anticipate, anticipate. When the game on the line.
[28:44] Speaker 2: That's what we call execution, though. Right.
[28:46] Speaker 4: When the game on the line, you got to be
[28:47] Speaker 4: as close to perfect as you can possibly get. It
[28:49] Speaker 4: ain't going to happen, but you got to try, man.
[28:51] Speaker 1: So, like we said, Nuggets, 22-point lead, fourth quarter. Clippers
[28:53] Speaker 1: battle all the way back. 30-9 run. Take a lead
[28:56] Speaker 1: at one point. Clippers thing, man. Trigger game off in
[28:58] Speaker 1: this fashion. But, you know, this is– Both L.A. teams
[29:03] Speaker 1: right now are struggling, but this is a situation that
[29:05] Speaker 1: has plagued the Clippers franchise since the stench of Donald
[29:08] Speaker 1: Sterling was removed. Steve Ballmer took over. It has not
[29:11] Speaker 1: gone away. Shelly Sterling still got tickets, even after the sale.
[29:15] Speaker 5: So you're trying to tell me y'all had deeper runs
[29:17] Speaker 5: with Donald Sterling at the helm?
[29:19] Speaker 1: No, I'm just saying this is the curse that is
[29:23] Speaker 1: not going away. Steve Ballmer bought the team. Shelly Sterling's
[29:25] Speaker 1: still involved. She was doing shit with Donald.
[29:28] Speaker 2: Shit.
[29:29] Speaker 4: Might be a new ownership thing. No, he don't do
[29:32] Speaker 4: whatever to win. He's a basketball enthusiast. You can see
[29:36] Speaker 4: his excitement in that game.
[29:38] Speaker 1: But it's... Into a dome, obviously home court advantage in
[29:41] Speaker 1: game three.
[29:42] Speaker 4: They haven't had the luxury of being in the draft,
[29:44] Speaker 4: the draft fix, like all that shit from that Shea trade.
[29:47] Speaker 4: It's just... Like from Paul George shit, it's just.
[29:50] Speaker 3: Can you imagine if Kawhi was playing like this when
[29:53] Speaker 3: they had PG?
[29:53] Speaker 4: Probably wouldn't have worked then either.
[29:57] Speaker 2: Damn. So.
[30:00] Speaker 1: We talk about that, though. Devastating loss for the Clippers.
[30:02] Speaker 1: It happened in this fashion. Game goes to OT. They
[30:05] Speaker 1: had the momentum. Not saying they were going to win,
[30:06] Speaker 1: but what impact will a loss like this have on
[30:08] Speaker 1: the Clippers as the series shifts back to.
[30:10] Speaker 2: Denver for game five? We'll see. They can just flush it.
[30:15] Speaker 4: It's 2-2. They had to get home court back. They
[30:18] Speaker 4: went to Denver and got one. They had to get
[30:19] Speaker 4: home court back.
[30:20] Speaker 2: I think this favors Denver. Nah. You winning like that yourself.
[30:25] Speaker 2: Because you don't have to win in L.A. again. Ask
[30:27] Speaker 2: yourself this. Has Joker had a good game yet? He has.
[30:32] Speaker 2: He's the only one playing. Has he had a Joker
[30:34] Speaker 2: game yet? And that's crazy to say. He hasn't had
[30:38] Speaker 2: a Joker game yet. That's crazy to say that he has.
[30:41] Speaker 2: Because he has 30 and 20 and 8. And remember
[30:43] Speaker 2: what we said. He could literally have one of them
[30:45] Speaker 2: fuck you games and be like, yeah, fuck you. 30, 20,
[30:47] Speaker 2: and 8? No, that ain't it. 20, 21, 30, 21. 36-21. 36-21-8,
[30:53] Speaker 2: and that's not a fuck you game. This last game? Yeah, 36-21-8.
[30:55] Speaker 2: It was a fudge you game. He didn't curse just yet. No,
[30:57] Speaker 2: it wasn't a triple-double. It wasn't no fuck you. He
[30:59] Speaker 2: hit you with the pinky toe. It's the others, man.
[31:02] Speaker 2: It's over. It's the others. Jamal Murray ain't had a
[31:16] Speaker 2: good game yet. Jamal Murray has been struggling. And he do.
[31:18] Speaker 2: And he's not going to have a good game. Is
[31:20] Speaker 2: Russ going to play today's game? Y'all got three wing defenders. Yeah,
[31:23] Speaker 2: he's not going to have a good game. MPJ not
[31:25] Speaker 2: going to have a good game? He's not even here.
[31:28] Speaker 2: He's not going to have a game. I don't know
[31:29] Speaker 2: where he at. I think he's already at his. He
[31:31] Speaker 2: already at his? 15-15. No, he got another one. He
[31:34] Speaker 2: got a full clip.
[31:35] Speaker 5: He got another scoring out. He got a good full
[31:37] Speaker 5: clip ready to go. He got another 19. 100%.
[31:40] Speaker 2: 100%.
[31:41] Speaker 5: Like 15 rebounds was an anomaly. That's his other side
[31:45] Speaker 5: of I was here tonight.
[31:47] Speaker 4: Because he got questioned because the game before he didn't
[31:49] Speaker 4: play well.
[31:49] Speaker 2: That's him. I woke up.
[31:50] Speaker 5: I did other things and when my shot not going.
[31:52] Speaker 5: But he still got a game where he can get
[31:54] Speaker 5: his clip off and look around and be like, I
[31:56] Speaker 5: wish I would get rid of me.
[31:58] Speaker 2: He need one of them. They don't cheat you right
[32:00] Speaker 2: over here.
[32:00] Speaker 1: That's how they do it.
[32:04] Speaker 2: So that's all you got to say to these type
[32:06] Speaker 2: of people to get them off their rockers? And Russ
[32:09] Speaker 2: didn't play? So y'all talked about yo kids. I don't know.
[32:15] Speaker 2: I don't know either. James going to have a fucking
[32:17] Speaker 2: night too. He ain't had one yet. He hasn't. Game one.
[32:21] Speaker 3: But it's kind of slowed down. He had 20 something
[32:23] Speaker 3: at the half. He take the back seat. The NFC
[32:26] Speaker 3: kick in. Bottom of your belly will start burning. You
[32:32] Speaker 3: can start moving too much. You'll be like, damn, not
[32:35] Speaker 3: enough bread. You got to soak it up with bread, James.
[32:38] Speaker 1: So Jokic averaged triple-double this season, has two in this series,
[32:42] Speaker 1: plus this. You're not even calling it a dominant performance, but.
[32:45] Speaker 2: It is. No, 36, 21, and 8, definitely dominant.
[32:49] Speaker 1: But we know he can do more, which is crazy
[32:51] Speaker 1: to say. So he's averaged 29 points, 14 rebounds, 11
[32:53] Speaker 1: assists in this series, shooting 54% from the field, 47%
[32:56] Speaker 1: from three. Seems like if the Clippers can find a
[33:01] Speaker 1: way to slow it down, like you talked about, the
[33:03] Speaker 1: rest of the supporting cast is going to struggle to
[33:05] Speaker 1: carry their weight. So what can the Clippers do to
[33:06] Speaker 1: try and slow down Joker for the remainder of the series?
[33:10] Speaker 2: Nothing, man.
[33:11] Speaker 3: Joker have a 20 game or nothing, anything under that?
[33:15] Speaker 3: They're losing by 50.
[33:17] Speaker 2: They're losing by 50. He's not. That's what I'm saying.
[33:20] Speaker 2: Y'all had y'all game already. The Clippers won by 34.
[33:22] Speaker 2: The Cripes going to win. That shit ain't happening again.
[33:26] Speaker 2: I said the Clippers going to win. They're going to win.
[33:30] Speaker 3: They got lucky yesterday. The other day, not yesterday.
[33:34] Speaker 2: They're being right. I said seven with the Lakers. They
[33:39] Speaker 2: said seven with the Lakers. When? In 98? And it
[33:42] Speaker 2: looks like it's going seven.
[33:44] Speaker 1: Swag, you did predict seven, and the way it's trending
[33:47] Speaker 1: does look like... You talking about the Lakers in seven? Yeah,
[33:50] Speaker 1: we'll talk about them later in the show, but it
[33:51] Speaker 1: does look like it's trending towards a seven-game series at
[33:54] Speaker 1: this current juncture.
[33:56] Speaker 2: With the one we're talking about, with the one that
[33:57] Speaker 2: said 2-2? Yeah, I think so. The one that said 2-2,
[34:00] Speaker 2: the one that we're talking about right now that said 2-2.
[34:03] Speaker 2: Flippers can't do anything to slow down, Joe. It seems
[34:05] Speaker 2: like if they could figure out a way to, even
[34:08] Speaker 2: like Swaggy's saying, just... No.
[34:10] Speaker 3: The last seven game series they went to.
[34:13] Speaker 4: Listen, Shaw said it best the other day when we
[34:15] Speaker 4: talked about it, right? The other guys got to find
[34:18] Speaker 4: out a way to get it done, right? You're getting
[34:23] Speaker 4: what you need to out of your top three guys.
[34:29] Speaker 4: Norm Powell is.
[34:31] Speaker 2: He came on the fourth quarter. That's how they made
[34:33] Speaker 2: the run. Yep. A little too late.
[34:36] Speaker 4: A little too late. But you're getting what you're supposed
[34:39] Speaker 4: to out of James. You're getting what you're supposed to
[34:40] Speaker 4: out of Kawhi. You're getting what you're supposed to out
[34:42] Speaker 4: of Lisa Zubach.
[34:43] Speaker 2: Zubach has been... He's been balling, right? But like I said, listen,
[34:46] Speaker 2: you've been playing great.
[34:47] Speaker 4: And it just so happened that you have to go
[34:49] Speaker 4: up against this machine every.
[34:51] Speaker 2: Yeah, definitely said that. Definitely said that. So it's just... Yeah,
[34:54] Speaker 2: you've been playing great, man. I praise him. But it's...
[34:56] Speaker 2: Take my hat off to him. But... This man over
[35:01] Speaker 2: here is different. And it's 2-2. So good, good. Like, good, 2-2.
[35:07] Speaker 2: Clippers are a good team. They should have lost. If
[35:10] Speaker 2: Kawhi make one of them threes, it's over. But he didn't,
[35:12] Speaker 2: so we're sitting at 2-2. You know what I'm saying?
[35:14] Speaker 2: That's what I'm saying.
[35:16] Speaker 5: But you saying that is like if he would have
[35:18] Speaker 5: hit that shot.
[35:20] Speaker 2: But I'm just saying.
[35:21] Speaker 3: We can't say that for anybody else over there who
[35:24] Speaker 3: balling for them besides Joker.
[35:26] Speaker 2: That's all they need.
[35:27] Speaker 4: Jamal, their second best option ain't played well, so that's
[35:30] Speaker 4: all they've needed so far.
[35:31] Speaker 2: To get two wins. To get two-two?
[35:33] Speaker 5: See, you're not giving credit, though. You're not giving credit.
[35:37] Speaker 5: Your two best options are playing well.
[35:39] Speaker 2: Yeah, you good. You good. Go all the way down.
[35:40] Speaker 2: You got it. Is that what you be doing in mid-conversation, man? Shit.
[35:43] Speaker 2: You got to carry your gift with you. My bad.
[35:56] Speaker 2: God damn.
[36:00] Speaker 5: You just held a whole sentence in the slobber. That
[36:02] Speaker 5: shit was, you said some shit, it's gone now.
[36:05] Speaker 2: You got to make some whole other shit up.
[36:09] Speaker 1: A whole sentence in the slobber. But, we appreciate you
[36:13] Speaker 1: having me in the driver's seat of this show. It's
[36:18] Speaker 1: good to be back. It is good to be back
[36:20] Speaker 1: in the arena, obviously. Everything we all dealt with last
[36:23] Speaker 1: week obviously deals well.
[36:25] Speaker 2: Yeah, I miss Gil. I'm getting double teamed. We miss you, Gil.
[36:28] Speaker 2: We're praying for you a lot. No, he wouldn't be
[36:30] Speaker 2: agreeing with this shit that's coming out of your mouth
[36:31] Speaker 2: right now. And you never know. Unfortunately, he wouldn't be
[36:35] Speaker 2: agreeing with this shit. Right? Let's go. Let's go. He
[36:38] Speaker 2: don't believe it. I think he does. Oh, no. Oh, no.
[36:42] Speaker 4: But this is a good series. It's a good one.
[36:48] Speaker 4: They don't have to win again in L.A. They need
[36:49] Speaker 4: to get their game back.
[36:50] Speaker 2: Yeah.
[36:52] Speaker 1: But you see how quick the series can go from
[36:53] Speaker 1: potentially being 3-1, obviously Clippers.
[36:56] Speaker 2: Yes.
[36:56] Speaker 1: Being able to. Very fast. And that changes. To now
[37:00] Speaker 1: we got to go back to Denver playing that highest altitude.
[37:02] Speaker 2: Yeah. Lungs burning. Yeah. Hey, man, it's a 48-minute game.
[37:08] Speaker 2: And they are. You played two zeros? Yeah. Oh, man.
[37:13] Speaker 4: It's what it is, man. At this point, like, they
[37:15] Speaker 4: got to go back to Denver. They've proven they can
[37:17] Speaker 4: win there, so let's go back and get another one.
[37:21] Speaker 4: That's the mentality that you need in these moments. When
[37:25] Speaker 4: you've already won on that home floor, on your opponent's
[37:28] Speaker 4: home floor already, the game went the way it was,
[37:31] Speaker 4: the way it played out, now all you can do
[37:36] Speaker 4: is reset and be like, hey, we've got to go
[37:38] Speaker 4: there and get one.
[37:38] Speaker 2: We know we can.
[37:40] Speaker 4: This is the mentality from James and Kawhi and Ty
[37:44] Speaker 4: Lue and the staff and Van Gundy and all those guys, right?
[37:47] Speaker 4: They've been there. They've been in these situations. James has
[37:50] Speaker 4: been in these situations. Kawhi has been in these situations.
[37:54] Speaker 4: So you just got to go out and hoop. Clippers'
[37:55] Speaker 4: first two playoff games into a dome. We talked a
[37:58] Speaker 4: lot this season about the home court advantage they provide.
[38:00] Speaker 4: I think David Adelman, after game three, just talked about the.
[38:04] Speaker 1: Clippers, the wall, the things they have going on. But
[38:06] Speaker 1: the Nuggets obviously have a home court advantage as well,
[38:08] Speaker 1: including that altitude.
[38:09] Speaker 2: Can you play it in Denver? It's the biggest home court.
[38:13] Speaker 1: But you can get it. How big of an advantage?
[38:16] Speaker 1: I mean, you know, now I'm a Clippers. I could
[38:18] Speaker 1: have been up 3-1.
[38:19] Speaker 2: Man. Got back to L.A.
[38:22] Speaker 1: With a chance to end the series after game five.
[38:24] Speaker 1: Now I got to go out and get this game five.
[38:26] Speaker 2: You've been gone for a few days, so it's going
[38:29] Speaker 2: to get your lungs. Same for the Nuggets.
[38:31] Speaker 4: Your lungs are going to have to get some readjusting
[38:33] Speaker 4: to the first five minutes of the game. But they
[38:35] Speaker 4: already played that, man. If people don't respect the altitude, you–
[38:42] Speaker 4: Just look at Nikola Jokic, right? If you look at him,
[38:46] Speaker 4: eye tests and all that people, he's fat, out of shape,
[38:49] Speaker 4: like all these narratives that you could come up with.
[38:52] Speaker 4: And you watch him play the game of basketball and
[38:54] Speaker 4: how much he moves and runs and how great his
[38:59] Speaker 4: condition it is. He's like, so it's a real thing
[39:05] Speaker 4: going in there. And the reason that they, Ty Lue
[39:10] Speaker 4: said that he don't think that The reason he's playing
[39:12] Speaker 4: Ben Simmons at the five at times because of Vincent Zubach,
[39:14] Speaker 4: they wanted to match minute for minute with Jokic.
[39:18] Speaker 2: Thank you. See, I told you. But he wanted this.
[39:22] Speaker 4: So somebody asked him about matching Zubac minutes with Nicola's.
[39:25] Speaker 2: Yeah.
[39:26] Speaker 4: He said he didn't think that Zubac could do that
[39:29] Speaker 4: because of his long stints that time.
[39:31] Speaker 2: Yeah. Because he's not playing at altitude.
[39:32] Speaker 4: Like, you're going to, if you don't play that regularly,
[39:35] Speaker 4: playing long stints is hell.
[39:39] Speaker 2: Mm-hmm.
[39:40] Speaker 4: Like, I played the whole first, like, when I, my
[39:42] Speaker 4: career under, like, I played the whole first quarter unless
[39:44] Speaker 4: I was in foul trouble.
[39:45] Speaker 2: Yeah. I played the first four, 12 minutes of it.
[39:47] Speaker 1: Right?
[39:50] Speaker 4: So if we go on the road, I can definitely
[39:52] Speaker 4: play the first 18 minutes of the game easily.
[39:54] Speaker 2: Yeah, let them know. Hey, let me out. I'm good. Yeah,
[39:57] Speaker 2: I'm good. I'm actually good. Yeah, I'm not.
[39:59] Speaker 1: And is there a noticeable difference for you leaving Denver?
[40:03] Speaker 2: Absolutely. Absolutely noticeable difference, Josiah.
[40:07] Speaker 4: And just guys coming there. Guys that first game of
[40:10] Speaker 4: their road trip, You'll get lucky if you went to
[40:14] Speaker 4: Utah first, then Denver, or Denver, then Utah.
[40:17] Speaker 2: You go one of them, you'll be good for the
[40:19] Speaker 2: second one.
[40:20] Speaker 5: That morning, a shoot around that morning, whatever, as soon
[40:22] Speaker 5: as we get in, if we get in early, that practice,
[40:25] Speaker 5: we run up and down just to.
[40:27] Speaker 2: Damn. Shit. What the hell is that? You doing mock shit.
[40:32] Speaker 2: You ain't even running fast, right? No, yeah. You just
[40:34] Speaker 2: trying to just... You ain't even running fast. A little
[40:36] Speaker 2: lather up. Y'all doing your little five on old shit. Yeah,
[40:39] Speaker 2: all that. Get up and down. Tired as hell. You
[40:41] Speaker 2: ain't even going full speed. Tired as hell. Salt Lake Air,
[40:43] Speaker 2: very musty. I was there for All-Star weekend. Utah just not.
[40:45] Speaker 2: Very musty. It's not. Humidifier in the hotel room. I
[40:48] Speaker 2: didn't have any idea why. It's just the energy. It's not, man.
[40:51] Speaker 2: I like air. You do? It's Caucasian. It's just... He's
[40:54] Speaker 2: got to spend a little time out there recently. Got
[40:57] Speaker 2: to know how to adapt. You got to adapt to
[40:59] Speaker 2: the air. You got to adapt. Shout out Park City. Yeah,
[41:02] Speaker 2: he's not muscly. But it's real. Nice sense. Nice sense.
[41:05] Speaker 2: Nice sense of air.
[41:08] Speaker 4: And that's why you can see, like, watch the way
[41:11] Speaker 4: Denver's trying to run. Like, Denver's pushing the ball against
[41:14] Speaker 4: them boys. They're getting out and trying to run. And
[41:17] Speaker 4: that's the advantage that they have. They're trying to.
[41:19] Speaker 5: Jamal Murray get out his head and start playing basketball.
[41:22] Speaker 5: I don't know what he going through, but once he
[41:24] Speaker 5: turn it on, they'll be in and they'll be out
[41:26] Speaker 5: of this series just like that.
[41:28] Speaker 2: Think about him not even playing well. They still 2-2.
[41:31] Speaker 3: Y'all winning like how the Bucs win one game. Like,
[41:35] Speaker 3: It tastes like a Gary Grant. There's a goal for
[41:38] Speaker 3: 37 for y'all to win. It was Gary Grant. Gordon's
[41:41] Speaker 3: got to get it. His daddy and him.
[41:44] Speaker 2: Gary Grant. F. Gary Grant. Junior. Red Grant. Red Grant
[41:49] Speaker 2: or Gary Grant. You know who had 37. Trent Grant.
[41:51] Speaker 2: Gary and Grant. They're the same dude. They're daddy different.
[41:54] Speaker 2: Gary and Grant? The daddy's son had 37. There you go.
[41:58] Speaker 2: Now we know who you're talking about. Nick! Shut up!
[42:01] Speaker 1: Nick!
[42:12] Speaker 2: Don't make that a thing. Take that! Fight back. This
[42:15] Speaker 2: is technically your arena right now. I swear that boy
[42:18] Speaker 2: just be back there talking to himself. No. Rodney and them.
[42:24] Speaker 2: Rodney and Cedric.
[42:25] Speaker 1: I ain't seen Rodney in weeks.
[42:28] Speaker 2: He's tied up. The sandwich is just stacking up. Let's
[42:33] Speaker 2: keep this thing moving. Shift it over. Use a whole loaf.
[42:36] Speaker 2: To the Eastern Conference. I'm tired of this shit. We're
[42:42] Speaker 2: moving on. He's making different kinds. He's making syrup sandwiches
[42:46] Speaker 2: and ketchup sandwiches and shit. Everybody's just happy to be
[42:49] Speaker 2: back in the arena. We are adjusting our acrobatics. Waiting
[42:52] Speaker 2: for this goddamn thing.
[42:53] Speaker 3: These motherfuckers had this planned.
[42:56] Speaker 2: Huh? They were. Trying to set me up. Mama, I
[43:01] Speaker 2: am downstairs. They were colluding prior to the show. You're
[43:04] Speaker 2: getting here, Swag. Look at that man again.
[43:06] Speaker 1: So let's shift over to Easter conference. It took 30 pieces.
[43:21] Speaker 2: So I know how it look. You know what it
[43:24] Speaker 2: look like? I know what it look like. Perfect, right? Perfect. Yeah, man.
[43:29] Speaker 2: Nick got a couple of imaginary friends. I know you.
[43:32] Speaker 2: I've been trying to hold it in. I've been trying
[43:35] Speaker 2: to hold it in.
[43:42] Speaker 1: Everybody in the chat says we're ducking Lakers. We're going
[43:44] Speaker 1: to talk about it later in the show. We're going
[43:46] Speaker 1: to build up. We need you to keep watching. You
[43:48] Speaker 1: never know when it's going to happen. But it will happen.
[43:51] Speaker 2: I'm trying to just waste time. You already know. We
[43:55] Speaker 2: got enough time to talk. First 30 minutes. We Gucci.
[44:00] Speaker 2: We ended early now. Discussible underdog. Said the shows were
[44:03] Speaker 2: too long. I dig it. I got my own platform.
[44:06] Speaker 2: Got to make some tough decisions. It's going to be
[44:09] Speaker 2: a slow roast today. But let's move over to Easter Conference.
[44:13] Speaker 1: It took 30 pieces from Jalen Brunson and Cat to
[44:15] Speaker 1: help the Knicks bounce back from their Game 2 loss
[44:17] Speaker 1: with a two-point win in Detroit in Game 3. Pistons'
[44:20] Speaker 1: eighth straight home playoff loss dating back to 2008.
[44:23] Speaker 2: Damn.
[44:25] Speaker 1: One shy of tying the Six for the worst home
[44:26] Speaker 1: losing streak in playoff history.
[44:28] Speaker 2: Damn.
[44:28] Speaker 1: But this came less than a week after Detroit snapped
[44:31] Speaker 1: an NBA record 15-game playoff losing streak with a Game
[44:34] Speaker 1: 2 win in the Garden. Game four, New York's dynamic
[44:37] Speaker 1: duo did their thing once again to help will the
[44:39] Speaker 1: Knicks to another tough road win. Let's take a look
[44:42] Speaker 1: at the highlights if we can. Please pile up. Cade
[44:44] Speaker 1: Cunningham came through with his first career playoff triple-double and
[44:47] Speaker 1: third in Pistons history with 25-10-10. But Cade also had
[44:50] Speaker 1: seven turnovers in the game. Cade went to work in
[44:53] Speaker 1: the third quarter, 12 points, five boards, and five dimes
[44:56] Speaker 1: on six or seven shooting to give Detroit a seven-point
[44:58] Speaker 1: lead heading into the fourth. Pistons led by as much
[45:00] Speaker 1: as 11 points in the fourth quarter before falling victim.
[45:03] Speaker 1: to another New York rally. So Jalen Brunson led the Knicks,
[45:07] Speaker 1: 32 points, 11 assists, and five rebounds. He was 13
[45:09] Speaker 1: for 26 from the field, four or seven from three,
[45:12] Speaker 1: while the big bodega added 27 and nine boards, hitting
[45:17] Speaker 1: five of his seven three-point attempts. So Brunson and Catt
[45:20] Speaker 1: combined to score the last 16 points for the Knicks,
[45:24] Speaker 1: knocking down big shots to keep them within reach.
[45:28] Speaker 2: But Catt was doing his thing as well, man. Yeah,
[45:30] Speaker 2: now he's... He's destined for a breakthrough. Did you see Cat? Meow.
[45:35] Speaker 2: That's a colorful pass. I thought it was a three.
[45:37] Speaker 2: Give me that. That's a hell of a pass, Jalen Brown.
[45:40] Speaker 1: He didn't think it was a three. It was a three.
[45:41] Speaker 1: It's this right here. Cat coming through.
[45:44] Speaker 2: Over the shoulder. Over the shoulder. Let's go. Big shot
[45:48] Speaker 2: over Jalen Durst. That jersey he got on. What team
[45:50] Speaker 2: I pick? Okay. Less than a minute remaining. Come here.
[45:54] Speaker 1: Pistons up two. Step back jumper. I've done this before.
[45:58] Speaker 1: Give him a one-point lead. Pistons final possession. Whoa, whoa, whoa.
[46:01] Speaker 2: Okay. Try to hit him. Whoa, whoa, whoa. Ball bouncing. Whoa, whoa.
[46:06] Speaker 2: Jim Hardway Jr.
[46:07] Speaker 1: Nice pump. No foul called on the play.
[46:12] Speaker 2: J.B. Bickerstaff irate. Relax. Yelling at officials. Relax. You're not
[46:15] Speaker 2: going to get bailed out on that call right there.
[46:17] Speaker 2: That's a foul. That is a foul. That's crazy.
[46:21] Speaker 4: It ain't got nothing to do with they didn't call beforehand.
[46:23] Speaker 4: I get everybody saying there was a lot of calls
[46:25] Speaker 4: that could have been made, plays, all this. The players, no,
[46:27] Speaker 4: that's a fucking foul.
[46:28] Speaker 2: That's a foul. That's a foul.
[46:30] Speaker 4: Here nor there I get there's a 48 minute game
[46:33] Speaker 4: we all that shit do it like I've been saying
[46:35] Speaker 4: before at home too that's a five at home at
[46:37] Speaker 4: home I don't give a fuck five.
[46:38] Speaker 1: Home roll at the park in the driveway I'm getting
[46:43] Speaker 1: kicked out that's a five ladies and gentlemen take that
[46:45] Speaker 1: shit with you we have the extender Scott Foster take
[46:48] Speaker 1: that shit with you even Scott said that was some
[46:50] Speaker 1: bullshit let's get this thing two two get two more
[46:53] Speaker 1: games The underdog has the extended promo going on.
[46:55] Speaker 2: The longer the years go, the more bread you can win.
[46:58] Speaker 2: That's crazy. 3-1? Yeah. 3-1? Yeah. Knicks advance. Knicks advance.
[47:04] Speaker 2: That's crazy, bro. That's crazy, yeah.
[47:06] Speaker 1: Sean, this is, obviously, you left the Celtics free agency
[47:09] Speaker 1: after the championship, took your talents to the big.
[47:12] Speaker 2: What's the next matchup? After this? Cleveland.
[47:17] Speaker 1: It'll be the Celtics or Boston. Your two teams colliding.
[47:20] Speaker 1: Are y'all playing Boston? In the second round.
[47:22] Speaker 2: Hell yeah. Who your team going to play? Boston. Boston.
[47:27] Speaker 2: That's my team. The winner of the World Rocket Series. Boston.
[47:30] Speaker 2: I'm going to... Cucamonga. They're playing Boston. Cucamonga? Would you
[47:36] Speaker 2: like tickets?
[47:37] Speaker 1: But after the game, Tim Hardaway Jr., Bickerstaff, and Josh
[47:41] Speaker 1: Hart had this to say about the no call on
[47:44] Speaker 1: the final play.
[47:45] Speaker 2: You guys saw it. I mean, Cade got his shot.
[47:50] Speaker 6: He got to his spot and he got to his
[47:53] Speaker 6: shot and, you know, had the shot that he liked
[47:55] Speaker 6: and that we all like. And I trust Cade to
[47:57] Speaker 6: take that shot, you know, a hundred times in a row. And,
[48:00] Speaker 6: you know, again, you go back and look at the film.
[48:03] Speaker 6: The guy leaves his feet. There's contact on Tim Hardaway's
[48:06] Speaker 6: jump shot. You know, I don't know any other way
[48:08] Speaker 6: around it. There's contact on his jump shot. The guy
[48:11] Speaker 6: leaves his feet. He's at Timmy's mercy. And I repeat,
[48:15] Speaker 6: there's contact on his jump shot.
[48:16] Speaker 2: I made contact with him, yeah. I mean, I made
[48:18] Speaker 2: contact with him. Was it legal? I don't know.
[48:22] Speaker 1: We'll let the two-minute report say that. So we didn't
[48:29] Speaker 1: even have to wait for the two-minute report because right
[48:31] Speaker 1: after the game, crew chief David Guthrie admitted the refs
[48:34] Speaker 1: missed a foul call for THJ. Saying, quote, during live
[48:38] Speaker 1: play it was judged that Josh Hart made a legal
[48:40] Speaker 1: defensive play. After post-game review, we observed that Hart makes
[48:44] Speaker 1: body contact that is more than marginal to Hardaway Jr.
[48:47] Speaker 1: and a foul should have been called. Tim Hardaway Jr.
[48:50] Speaker 1: would have got three free throws if a foul was called.
[48:55] Speaker 1: The Knicks up one chance to win the game for
[48:57] Speaker 1: the Pistons, even the series. So how pissed should the
[49:00] Speaker 1: Pistons be at the league admitting they blew a game-deciding
[49:03] Speaker 1: call like that?
[49:07] Speaker 2: This, that, no. They fucking blew it. That'd be hot
[49:10] Speaker 2: right there. Like, yeah, you gotta be pissed at the
[49:12] Speaker 2: league for admitting it.
[49:13] Speaker 4: We all saw it. You don't got to admit there's nothing.
[49:17] Speaker 4: If they would have came out and said he didn't
[49:18] Speaker 4: foul him, that's what you should have been pissed off at.
[49:22] Speaker 4: Now you're playing with my intelligence.
[49:25] Speaker 2: We were right.
[49:25] Speaker 4: We fucked up. If you come out and say, no,
[49:30] Speaker 4: there wasn't no foul, the world saw it. We all
[49:34] Speaker 4: watched it in real time.
[49:35] Speaker 2: That's a foul.
[49:36] Speaker 3: You know it's a foul, and you come out and
[49:38] Speaker 3: say it, but we down 3-1?
[49:39] Speaker 2: Like, God damn. That's crazy. Because it affected the shot. Yeah,
[49:43] Speaker 2: that's tough. You can't take it back. You cannot. And
[49:45] Speaker 2: you can't. That's the thing about it, man. Ain't no duo.
[49:47] Speaker 2: That's weird that you would even come out and try
[49:49] Speaker 2: to make a move like that. That don't make you
[49:51] Speaker 2: feel better. Like an apology means nothing. Yeah, like we
[49:54] Speaker 2: down 3-1. Damn. Because you don't forget about it.
[49:58] Speaker 5: You definitely don't. It's like apologizing to your spouse. How
[50:00] Speaker 5: many more times can this happen?
[50:02] Speaker 2: It will never be forgotten. Should they get fined and
[50:03] Speaker 2: they fine come in our pocket? Hell yeah. They should
[50:06] Speaker 2: get fined. For that type of shit right there? A
[50:08] Speaker 2: hundred percent.
[50:08] Speaker 3: If they don't, they ain't. That'd be dope though. The
[50:12] Speaker 3: refs start getting fined and they start coming to.
[50:14] Speaker 1: Well, they get penalized by not getting to officiate games
[50:19] Speaker 1: down the road.
[50:19] Speaker 2: Especially games of this magnitude.
[50:22] Speaker 5: But you don't get to cheat me and then apologize.
[50:25] Speaker 2: Right? Because we don't know what games you miss. We
[50:27] Speaker 2: don't know what games you don't ref. Man. It's like
[50:32] Speaker 2: the word. That's bad. You don't get to cheat me.
[50:34] Speaker 2: You're back, bitch. You're gone. You're gone now.
[50:36] Speaker 4: It's a horrible feeling for Detroit right now. They ain't
[50:38] Speaker 4: been to playoffs. They ain't won at home. All this
[50:40] Speaker 4: shit exists, man. Now they tie the Sixers for the
[50:42] Speaker 4: long game.
[50:42] Speaker 1: Yeah.
[50:43] Speaker 2: So now there's a lot riding on this game. Yeah. Right?
[50:46] Speaker 2: There's a lot riding on that no call. Yep. And unfortunately,
[50:50] Speaker 2: on the bad end of it.
[50:51] Speaker 5: Like you say, namesake, Detroit versus New York, 2-2. Extending
[50:57] Speaker 5: a series we would rather see a different series. Two
[51:00] Speaker 5: major markets instead of the potential of two smaller.
[51:03] Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying? Let's get this out of
[51:05] Speaker 2: here now. Yeah, let's get Detroit out of here. They
[51:09] Speaker 2: don't want to see Isaiah Stewart.
[51:11] Speaker 1: They were hurt right now, but they have been cutting
[51:14] Speaker 1: to him on the bench anytime there's been a situation
[51:16] Speaker 1: on the floor.
[51:17] Speaker 4: In that moment, if they would have called the foul,
[51:22] Speaker 4: are they allowed to look at it? Yeah, like the
[51:24] Speaker 4: referees allowed to look.
[51:25] Speaker 2: At it review.
[51:26] Speaker 1: I believe this is still had their review. I don't
[51:29] Speaker 1: know how it works in that particular situation because no
[51:31] Speaker 1: no foul was called.
[51:32] Speaker 5: I don't think yeah, so you can't challenge a no call.
[51:36] Speaker 2: No call.
[51:37] Speaker 3: But then the Warriors get a call change into a
[51:39] Speaker 3: foul is over the weekend.
[51:42] Speaker 2: It was they blew the whistle. They blow the whistle first.
[51:46] Speaker 4: And then if so, my thing if you unsure throw
[51:49] Speaker 4: the fucking whistle.
[51:50] Speaker 2: Yeah. You're unsure. What happened? It went out of bounds, right?
[51:54] Speaker 2: And then they made it a foul.
[51:56] Speaker 1: That did happen in the Lakers-Wolves game, but the never-before-seen
[51:59] Speaker 1: camera angle, the AC-130 is a trap. You talking about
[52:02] Speaker 1: the Lakers game? No, we're just talking about questionable calls
[52:06] Speaker 1: that get made.
[52:06] Speaker 2: Well, they get made all the time. I mean, when
[52:10] Speaker 2: your hand is a part of the ball, listen, all
[52:12] Speaker 2: the time, you get fouled and you hit my hand
[52:15] Speaker 2: and I got the ball, that means that you get
[52:18] Speaker 2: the ball. We'll get to that.
[52:21] Speaker 1: Pistons used their challenge early in the game. First quarter,
[52:24] Speaker 1: I believe the score was 10-8. So they didn't.
[52:26] Speaker 2: Have the challenge. And that's bad coaching. Because you need
[52:30] Speaker 2: it right there. That's bad, dude. Once again. Because he
[52:34] Speaker 2: could have called a timeout and then reviewed. Once again.
[52:38] Speaker 2: The timing ran out. I'm saying, like, if he wanted to.
[52:41] Speaker 2: Timing ran out. Either way it go.
[52:44] Speaker 4: But in playoff basketball, let me just say, in playoff basketball,
[52:47] Speaker 4: everything is different, man.
[52:49] Speaker 2: Like, during the regular season, I complain about.
[52:52] Speaker 4: Coaches challenging shit in the first quarter of the regular season.
[52:56] Speaker 4: I'm really going to question your coaching if you do
[52:59] Speaker 4: that shit in the first quarter of a playoff game.
[53:03] Speaker 2: No, you can't do that. Don't do that to him. No,
[53:05] Speaker 2: I don't give a fuck. Any coach. I don't give
[53:07] Speaker 2: a fuck who it is. If you use your challenge
[53:11] Speaker 2: in the first quarter of a playoff game. Yeah, that's
[53:14] Speaker 2: just too bad. That's like all the players be doing
[53:16] Speaker 2: this shit. In the first quarter. Like, why you keep
[53:19] Speaker 2: doing that? I'm going to tell my players. When the
[53:21] Speaker 2: playoffs start, listen. I'm not challenging shit until the fourth
[53:25] Speaker 2: quarter and overtime. Don't look over here. Don't fucking look
[53:27] Speaker 2: over there. Don't look over here and do this shit.
[53:29] Speaker 2: You say that first, bud.
[53:30] Speaker 1: But even if it's blatantly obvious. I'm not using it.
[53:33] Speaker 1: We're not wasting it. But if you get the challenge,
[53:35] Speaker 1: you get another one.
[53:35] Speaker 2: But still, what the chances are in the first quarter.
[53:37] Speaker 2: You just say fuck it. On some stupid shit. Yeah,
[53:40] Speaker 2: I'm not going to.
[53:40] Speaker 7: Play, man.
[53:41] Speaker 2: Listen. You know you got one. Kay Cunningham, you know
[53:45] Speaker 2: you got one already. Listen, don't pick up a second
[53:49] Speaker 2: one right now.
[53:51] Speaker 5: It's easier for me to tell you that than me
[53:52] Speaker 5: to use my fucking challenge if you go across somebody's arm, right?
[53:56] Speaker 2: So why did they do the challenge? Somebody got fouled? Something, whatever.
[53:59] Speaker 2: It wasn't worth it in the first quarter. But we
[54:01] Speaker 2: see this happen all the time, like we pointed out.
[54:03] Speaker 2: Players always... Yes, no. That's weak as hell. And they
[54:06] Speaker 2: going to it every time. And then they wrong, and
[54:08] Speaker 2: it's like, oh, my bad. Dead wrong.
[54:09] Speaker 5: Why are you doing that? Kaminga was doing that shit, like,
[54:12] Speaker 5: do this. And it was like, bro, get back on
[54:14] Speaker 5: fucking defense, bro. Like the other day, you fouled the
[54:17] Speaker 5: right in front of his bent. Who was it?
[54:20] Speaker 2: Was it T. Lou them? T. Lou the other day.
[54:22] Speaker 2: Game at home. Right in front of your bench, the
[54:26] Speaker 2: ball went off of Kawhi. We all saw it. It's
[54:29] Speaker 2: right in front of your bench. Why are you challenging that?
[54:32] Speaker 2: Because he said so.
[54:33] Speaker 1: Because Hope, we know how it works out, but sometimes
[54:36] Speaker 1: you got a day off.
[54:38] Speaker 2: No, dog. Not in the fourth. Listen, dog. First three quarters.
[54:44] Speaker 2: We're going to have to make their possession up somehow.
[54:46] Speaker 2: Dive on the fucking floor, boy. 100%. Give me the
[54:50] Speaker 2: possession back. I need it back. I can't challenge you
[54:52] Speaker 2: in the first three quarters of a playoff game.
[54:54] Speaker 5: Get your ass back on defense. Stop fucking crying. I
[54:58] Speaker 5: don't want.
[54:59] Speaker 2: To see you do this. I'm subbing your ass out
[55:01] Speaker 2: if you do this.
[55:02] Speaker 3: Talk about his coaching for the referee.
[55:04] Speaker 2: There's no circumstance. But I'm saying, no, the referee fucked up. No,
[55:08] Speaker 2: but he fucked up by trying to do something in
[55:10] Speaker 2: the first quarter.
[55:11] Speaker 3: But he couldn't do something in that. He couldn't do
[55:13] Speaker 3: something in that. Nothing he could do in that situation.
[55:16] Speaker 2: Game was over. You can't game over, call a timeout.
[55:19] Speaker 2: You can't do that. Absolutely. I don't know what the
[55:22] Speaker 2: hell you was thinking. I'm with you. Yes, Nick. Absolutely.
[55:26] Speaker 2: I'm fighting back, though. But you stayed obvious, though. This
[55:30] Speaker 2: is a fight back. But you're stating obvious. We know
[55:33] Speaker 2: the game was over. No, but he was saying they
[55:36] Speaker 2: could do it. I'm trying to give you the win.
[55:38] Speaker 2: You got to follow through with it. Time out. That's
[55:41] Speaker 2: what I'm on. Time out. It's triple zero. Review that. No.
[55:43] Speaker 2: We got one left. I didn't use it. We got
[55:46] Speaker 2: one left. He fouled him, right? But you know, yeah,
[56:00] Speaker 2: you don't do the challenge.
[56:01] Speaker 1: But to your point, if they call a foul on
[56:03] Speaker 1: Josh Hart there, they can go back and, I believe,
[56:05] Speaker 1: review it. Yeah, that's my thing. The referees can review it.
[56:07] Speaker 1: See if it was a foul or not. But nothing
[56:10] Speaker 1: was called on the court.
[56:11] Speaker 2: Do they post the review stuff, though? Yeah, they can.
[56:13] Speaker 2: They can if they so choose. It's a lot of
[56:17] Speaker 2: riding on that call.
[56:19] Speaker 1: The challenge system is supposed to make things more equitable,
[56:21] Speaker 1: keep refs accountable. But do you feel like the challenge
[56:24] Speaker 1: system is flawed? Like, if you get a challenge right,
[56:26] Speaker 1: you prove a ref to be wrong.
[56:27] Speaker 2: Yes. Should there be a limit on how many challenges
[56:29] Speaker 2: you get? You should keep going? No. Well, they'll abuse it. Yeah.
[56:35] Speaker 4: Coaches will abuse it. I think there should be a
[56:37] Speaker 4: limit in the game. Like, you just can't get unlimited challenges, right?
[56:42] Speaker 4: But I shouldn't be penalized a time. Like, oh, my
[56:47] Speaker 4: second challenge, if I get it right, I don't get
[56:49] Speaker 4: another one. Like, no, I got both of them right.
[56:54] Speaker 4: But if you lose the first, you don't get to say, okay,
[56:56] Speaker 4: I agree with that one.
[56:57] Speaker 2: Right? If you use it and you lose it, you
[57:01] Speaker 2: don't get the second one. I agree with that. That's cool. Right?
[57:05] Speaker 2: I'm with that. But if I get a challenge once,
[57:07] Speaker 2: I get another one. Right?
[57:09] Speaker 5: If I get the second one right, I should keep going.
[57:13] Speaker 5: I think there's a limit to three challenges in a game.
[57:15] Speaker 5: It should be three instead of two.
[57:16] Speaker 2: Right? Especially if I get the second one right. No limit.
[57:20] Speaker 2: We would never get to the end of the game.
[57:22] Speaker 2: It'd be like us at 24. You'd never get to
[57:26] Speaker 2: the end of the game, right? It takes the fun
[57:30] Speaker 2: out of it. What? You know how we can manipulate
[57:34] Speaker 2: a ref to call something? That is fun. You know
[57:37] Speaker 2: how we can be like, no, that's us, that's us.
[57:39] Speaker 2: And we know we ain't touch it. Right?
[57:42] Speaker 5: But then if you go to the replay, clearly it sees.
[57:46] Speaker 5: that I was bullshitting, I was trolling, right? But I almost.
[57:52] Speaker 2: Got it, right?
[57:53] Speaker 5: That used to be the thing in the league before
[57:55] Speaker 5: the replays.
[57:56] Speaker 2: We could get the ref to give us the call, like, yeah,
[57:59] Speaker 2: let's go, let's go. I ain't touch that bitch at all.
[58:02] Speaker 2: Then go to the ref and be like, hey, good call,
[58:03] Speaker 2: good call, good call. No, I hate that shit out
[58:05] Speaker 2: of him. No, I hate that shit out of him.
[58:06] Speaker 2: Because you can't go back and change it now. You
[58:08] Speaker 2: know what I'm saying? Yeah, I just thought, this is crazy.
[58:12] Speaker 2: This is way off topic. This is on topic. This
[58:14] Speaker 2: is Gills Arena. Everything is on topic. So we all are, right?
[58:23] Speaker 2: We are liars. like a motherfucking sports. What? Like, all
[58:28] Speaker 2: athletes are the biggest liars on the planet. We'll do whatever. Right?
[58:34] Speaker 2: We'll do whatever.
[58:35] Speaker 5: And it wasn't like when we get in relationships and
[58:37] Speaker 5: we get in situations and all that, people are like, why.
[58:39] Speaker 2: Did you lie? Like, I'm fucking used to lying. Right?
[58:43] Speaker 2: I knew I hit that ball out. I was down.
[58:45] Speaker 2: That was your rotation. Just stop. Lie was so easy. Right?
[58:49] Speaker 2: And all of it. Football, bad. You think about every sport, right?
[58:52] Speaker 2: So easy. Excuse. Excuse. Right away. Excuse. Right away. Nah,
[58:58] Speaker 2: it wasn't me. And it's just so easy for us
[59:01] Speaker 2: to do it. It wasn't me. In real time. No,
[59:03] Speaker 2: we hit that ball at a point all the way. See,
[59:06] Speaker 2: damn well. Rewind it. Look, you hit the. That wasn't me. No, no, no.
[59:10] Speaker 2: wasn't me.
[59:12] Speaker 3: You know that commercial that said it was out on me, coach?
[59:15] Speaker 3: I know y'all hated that shit.
[59:17] Speaker 2: Absolutely. We got mad at the commercial. We got mad
[59:22] Speaker 2: at the commercial. That's how bad of a liar we are.
[59:25] Speaker 2: We got mad at the commercial. Man, fuck this sportsmanship.
[59:29] Speaker 2: The worst commercial in the history of sports on the TV.
[59:32] Speaker 2: I think everybody trying to swing on the TV at
[59:34] Speaker 2: that point. I'm like, first word, man, fuck this sportsmanship.
[59:37] Speaker 2: It's five seconds now, bro. It's five seconds now.
[59:40] Speaker 5: I want to swing on He overturned the call.
[59:44] Speaker 2: What's crazy is the coach looked like J.B. Bickerson. That's
[59:46] Speaker 2: not on me. And then he said, go tell the ref.
[59:50] Speaker 2: He said, well, then go tell the ref. We're going
[59:52] Speaker 2: to fight you in the locker room. We're going to
[59:54] Speaker 2: jump you. We're jumping you in the locker room. Come on, Alex.
[59:57] Speaker 2: At that age. Absolutely. We're jumping you. We were winning.
[1:00:02] Speaker 2: We were winning. And we lost because you wanted to
[1:00:06] Speaker 2: be this fucking Boy Scout. Like, no. I touched the cup.
[1:00:10] Speaker 2: Then I'd be back here. Get your ass. I'm going
[1:00:13] Speaker 2: to sub you out right there. I'm sitting next to you.
[1:00:17] Speaker 2: Shut up, Nick. I don't trust you. I don't trust you.
[1:00:20] Speaker 2: You too. Like the chat said, you know how many
[1:00:26] Speaker 2: fights have been started over lies? Blatant. Blatant lies, bro.
[1:00:29] Speaker 2: The person who started knows they're lying. Yes. Whatever. Blatant.
[1:00:33] Speaker 2: Y'all got to ride with me. Yes. Blatant. Y'all ride
[1:00:35] Speaker 2: with me. Yes. We all know. You don't believe me
[1:00:37] Speaker 2: or you're lying eyes. Right. Damn, I can't believe I
[1:00:40] Speaker 2: just rode with this nigga, man. You don't believe me
[1:00:42] Speaker 2: or you're lying eyes. You're just lying right with him.
[1:00:45] Speaker 2: Your teammate, you're just lying right with him. Once we
[1:00:46] Speaker 2: start convincing, we feel like we're putting on the show.
[1:00:49] Speaker 2: We got him. Did we get him? I got your attention.
[1:00:51] Speaker 2: We got him. They believed us, didn't they? I'm watching
[1:00:55] Speaker 2: the commercial right now. We're sitting in that motherfucking interrogation room.
[1:00:59] Speaker 2: You're right in your goddamn face. Wasn't me. Right in
[1:01:04] Speaker 2: your face. Wasn't me. Man, I told you I wasn't there.
[1:01:08] Speaker 2: I'm trying to get you to look at the video.
[1:01:10] Speaker 2: You keep saying I was there. You keep saying I
[1:01:13] Speaker 2: was there. You got to get real emotional. You got
[1:01:19] Speaker 2: to make him believe it. He walked over to the
[1:01:21] Speaker 2: fence like he saw something. Right there in the living room.
[1:01:23] Speaker 2: Come on, Alex. It's a championship day, dog.
[1:01:25] Speaker 5: Come on, Alex.
[1:01:29] Speaker 2: The whole proof is you. Look, this is you. I'm
[1:01:32] Speaker 2: out of here. Walk all the way down the street.
[1:01:36] Speaker 2: You gotta switch it. You play the whole character. Oh, what?
[1:01:40] Speaker 2: You gotta go come up with some more shit. You
[1:01:41] Speaker 2: gotta go take a walk. You gotta go take a
[1:01:44] Speaker 2: walk and come up with some more lies. Go on
[1:01:46] Speaker 2: top of them lies, right? Yes, absolutely. I got it.
[1:01:50] Speaker 2: I'm tired of your shit. On the way back, you
[1:01:54] Speaker 2: got it. Every time I come to this motherfucker, the
[1:01:57] Speaker 2: microwave on high. Like, huh? What the fuck? I can't
[1:02:01] Speaker 2: do this shit no more. I got it now. I
[1:02:03] Speaker 2: got it. I know what I'm going to go with.
[1:02:05] Speaker 2: I know what I'm going to go with. Now let's
[1:02:08] Speaker 2: go back and figure it out. Let's tell it now.
[1:02:10] Speaker 2: It's all about game planning and strategy, ladies and gentlemen.
[1:02:13] Speaker 2: Back to this Pistons-Knicks series. Let's talk about the Knicks side.
[1:02:18] Speaker 1: Obviously, we know what Jalen Brunson has been doing, King
[1:02:19] Speaker 1: of New York, but Cass has been instrumental as the Knicks'
[1:02:22] Speaker 1: second option in these two straight road wins, averaging 29.9 rebounds,
[1:02:27] Speaker 1: two blocks, 49-60, 100 shooting splits in those two games,
[1:02:31] Speaker 1: taking advantage of Isaiah Stewart being sidelined with a knee
[1:02:35] Speaker 1: injury for the last three games. But what has Cat
[1:02:37] Speaker 1: shown you in his first playoff series with the Knicks?
[1:02:43] Speaker 2: Yeah, it's true. I was going to do it, but
[1:02:46] Speaker 2: I'm a little sly. All right, he's balling. He was
[1:02:49] Speaker 2: going to do it. He's balling. Why don't you go
[1:02:52] Speaker 2: do it? I thought I was Kobe. I thought I
[1:02:53] Speaker 2: was Kobe. You thought you was Kobe? Anyway, give me
[1:02:57] Speaker 2: the ball. Watch me. Let's keep it positive.
[1:03:03] Speaker 1: Okay.
[1:03:04] Speaker 2: Okay. That was pretty good. He was balling, though. That's
[1:03:06] Speaker 2: pretty good. That's pretty good. He's doing what he's supposed to.
[1:03:08] Speaker 2: For sure, he's doing what he's supposed to. He's making
[1:03:11] Speaker 2: the Knicks fans. Oh, man.
[1:03:14] Speaker 4: Enjoy this trade. This is when they want you to
[1:03:19] Speaker 4: show up.
[1:03:20] Speaker 2: And he's doing that.
[1:03:22] Speaker 1: As we've seen, both teams appear to be benefiting from
[1:03:26] Speaker 1: this trade and questionable officiating.
[1:03:29] Speaker 2: Well, yeah. Cat being a traditional big that New York
[1:03:34] Speaker 2: ain't really had in a while. Man. Like a big
[1:03:37] Speaker 2: over the 6'10 threshold that can rebound a score. Ain't
[1:03:42] Speaker 2: really seen that since with Pat. Shit, Amari was the closest.
[1:03:47] Speaker 2: That was tough.
[1:03:48] Speaker 3: That reminded me of Cole, for real, behind the backboard.
[1:03:52] Speaker 4: The one thing he's doing that the Knicks fans appreciate,
[1:03:57] Speaker 4: he's competing. He's competing and he's playing with emotion. And
[1:04:02] Speaker 4: they enjoy that. They can live with the results if
[1:04:06] Speaker 4: you're competing and you lead with emotion for them. That's
[1:04:10] Speaker 4: what they've been built on.
[1:04:11] Speaker 2: So, yeah. That's what Julius Randle couldn't get to. What?
[1:04:16] Speaker 2: He couldn't get to that part. What were you talking about? Competing? No.
[1:04:19] Speaker 2: He took y'all to the playoff by... Listen to what
[1:04:22] Speaker 2: he just said, though. He's saying leading with the motion. Oh, oh.
[1:04:26] Speaker 4: That's what they... Like, they want you to be, like... Passionate.
[1:04:30] Speaker 4: They want you to show that passion, right? That New
[1:04:32] Speaker 4: York grit, that New York passion. They want you to
[1:04:36] Speaker 4: embody them, right? When you're playing there, they want... You
[1:04:40] Speaker 4: walk down the street, they be like, hey, man, I
[1:04:41] Speaker 4: love the way you fucking playing. Hey, man, shit, you. Hey,
[1:04:44] Speaker 4: no matter, we just lost.
[1:04:45] Speaker 2: Hey, man, shit, hey. Post will get that ball.
[1:04:47] Speaker 7: Hey, man.
[1:04:47] Speaker 5: They love Josh Hart because he played with the Indians.
[1:04:50] Speaker 2: We'll get him next time, man. Y'all played hard last time. Hey,
[1:04:52] Speaker 2: we gonna get him. Julius was doing that. In the beginning.
[1:04:56] Speaker 2: His play was a two-time All-NBA, all that shit. His
[1:04:59] Speaker 2: personality was it. His personality in the 50s. Brunson came.
[1:05:03] Speaker 2: That's when his personality.
[1:05:05] Speaker 3: It was a struggle over who team it was.
[1:05:08] Speaker 5: Yeah, but Cat shone. Cat shone that. But what did
[1:05:11] Speaker 5: Cat do immediately? He played secondary. So that's the difference.
[1:05:15] Speaker 2: Julius Randle's number's great as a.
[1:05:17] Speaker 4: New York Knick. It's just that aspect of it. They won't...
[1:05:23] Speaker 4: I'm saying?
[1:05:24] Speaker 5: Is Cat playing second fiddle or is Cat playing I'm
[1:05:26] Speaker 5: next to you?
[1:05:26] Speaker 2: 29 and 10. Am I playing....
[1:05:32] Speaker 5: I'm deferring or am I playing, are we playing Superman
[1:05:36] Speaker 5: and Batman?
[1:05:37] Speaker 2: No, no, no, no. This game he did well. No,
[1:05:41] Speaker 2: the series. No, no, he been balling, but he didn't
[1:05:44] Speaker 2: shoot the ball. No, just these last two games. What's
[1:05:48] Speaker 2: the game? Yeah, the game he didn't shoot the ball
[1:05:50] Speaker 2: the whole damn fourth quarter. Had a 10-point game, I believe.
[1:05:54] Speaker 2: Game two. So for the series, he's averaging 23-9 rebounds. 23-9.
[1:05:56] Speaker 2: What is Brunson averaging? 34.
[1:05:58] Speaker 8: 34?
[1:05:58] Speaker 2: Yeah, 34. And what?
[1:06:02] Speaker 1: So Brunson, 33-9 assists.
[1:06:06] Speaker 2: 33-9 assists. So that's 23-9 on one side, 33-9 on
[1:06:10] Speaker 2: the other. For a big. He's holding his weight. Check that.
[1:06:15] Speaker 2: Because McHale Bridge is doing what he's supposed to do.
[1:06:17] Speaker 1: Brunson, 30-point games in every game in this series. Obviously,
[1:06:20] Speaker 1: Cat had 23-point first game, 10-second, but it's bounced back.
[1:06:23] Speaker 2: 31-27.
[1:06:25] Speaker 4: Once you have success against people playing a certain way
[1:06:28] Speaker 4: in a playoff series, I love it, dog.
[1:06:31] Speaker 2: You impose your will on these people?
[1:06:33] Speaker 1: That's Steve Hartford, a resident Knicks fan producer, pointing out
[1:06:36] Speaker 1: Julius Randle, 17 points per game, nine rebounds in his
[1:06:41] Speaker 1: playoff career with the Knicks. 17 and nine in the playoffs.
[1:06:45] Speaker 1: With 34-28, 75 shooting splits.
[1:06:48] Speaker 2: What does he have?
[1:06:49] Speaker 5: What is he doing in Minnesota right now in comparison
[1:06:52] Speaker 5: to Cat?
[1:06:53] Speaker 2: Benefiting from. Man, fuck.
[1:06:58] Speaker 5: You can't say that Jewel is not helping Minnesota right now.
[1:07:02] Speaker 2: What, man? 23-5. Can't say he's not helping. 23-5. 23-5,
[1:07:05] Speaker 2: five assists. Can't say he's not helping. He's just not boarding.
[1:07:08] Speaker 2: He's not boarding like he used to. No, you're playing well.
[1:07:10] Speaker 2: He's not boarding like he used to. 23-5-5.
[1:07:12] Speaker 1: 47 from the field, 46 from three.
[1:07:17] Speaker 2: They both got what they needed. I can't wait. We'll
[1:07:19] Speaker 2: see what we do, King.
[1:07:20] Speaker 1: We have so many other things to talk about here.
[1:07:23] Speaker 2: Both teams got what they needed. They both got what
[1:07:26] Speaker 2: they needed. Beautiful playoff basketball. Well, I'm here tomorrow, too, so... Well,
[1:07:30] Speaker 2: about that, can you... You got to get to it eventually, Joe.
[1:07:33] Speaker 2: You'd be surprised. Can't duck this. Can't duck this. It's
[1:07:36] Speaker 2: called a filibuster, ladies and gentlemen, so... I'm here tomorrow, too.
[1:07:39] Speaker 2: I will now read The Cat in the Hat for
[1:07:40] Speaker 2: the next hour.
[1:07:41] Speaker 1: And a half.
[1:07:41] Speaker 5: And then the next time I'm here is Thursday, so
[1:07:43] Speaker 5: it can definitely be over for y'all by then.
[1:07:46] Speaker 2: You better hope not. We gonna be together. Filibuster. You
[1:07:50] Speaker 2: can't escape this. But no, Cat is... Yeah. Can't escape this.
[1:07:55] Speaker 2: They both... Playing in Minnesota, people didn't see this....
[1:07:59] Speaker 4: Playing great in Minnesota as well, but it's when you're
[1:08:01] Speaker 4: on that stage and you have a certain brand that
[1:08:05] Speaker 4: people follow, spotlight is bigger. He's accepting that. He's thriving
[1:08:12] Speaker 4: in it. One thing you don't want to have, like
[1:08:20] Speaker 4: I said, you walk down the streets and people praise
[1:08:22] Speaker 4: you in New York, they ain't afraid. to tell you
[1:08:28] Speaker 4: when you're walking down the street that you fucking suck. So,
[1:08:31] Speaker 4: that's not planned. Julius Randle dealt with a lot of nicknames.
[1:08:33] Speaker 2: That's what I'm saying. Yeah, man. Ripping his sign down.
[1:08:35] Speaker 2: It's real. The booze. So, but, no, Cat is stepping
[1:08:38] Speaker 2: up to the plate, though. So, what's up?
[1:08:40] Speaker 1: And, Sean, like you pointed out, you don't think Cat's
[1:08:41] Speaker 1: traditional number two option in this regard. He feels like
[1:08:44] Speaker 1: he's a superhero, too, can put that cape on as well. Obviously,
[1:08:47] Speaker 1: Jalen Brunson.
[1:08:49] Speaker 2: He definitely won that game. Leading the charge. No, for sure.
[1:08:52] Speaker 2: But Cat stepping up in that moment. Jalen missed some
[1:08:55] Speaker 2: time with the angle when he went down. You know
[1:08:56] Speaker 2: what I'm saying? He held it down. Yep. So he
[1:08:59] Speaker 2: made some big moves. shots. Standing in. He doing what
[1:09:01] Speaker 2: he's supposed to do in the mix. The last, what,
[1:09:04] Speaker 2: two minutes? It was all Cat, right? Four minutes? I
[1:09:07] Speaker 2: think Cat and Brunson. He hit the three, then he
[1:09:10] Speaker 2: hit that fadeaway, then he hit the three again. Another one.
[1:09:13] Speaker 2: You know what he made?
[1:09:14] Speaker 5: He made Durden and Reed look like they ain't really
[1:09:17] Speaker 5: that good of defensive players as I thought. He's making
[1:09:22] Speaker 5: them move. He's making it hard for them to actually
[1:09:25] Speaker 5: get clean contests. They trying to get clean contests and
[1:09:29] Speaker 5: he's making them.
[1:09:31] Speaker 2: Durden, for one. Durden's having a hard time. No, they
[1:09:34] Speaker 2: can't play him on him. That's why they're playing Tobias
[1:09:35] Speaker 2: on him. But the times that he was on him,
[1:09:37] Speaker 2: he couldn't get no clean contests, and he's getting those little...
[1:09:40] Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying? That's why they got to
[1:09:42] Speaker 2: play small on him. And even if you play Tobias,
[1:09:44] Speaker 2: I'm telling Cat, post his ass. That's what they was doing.
[1:09:47] Speaker 2: They was trying to. Post his ass.
[1:09:48] Speaker 4: Tobias had some good possessions in the third quarter on him.
[1:09:51] Speaker 4: The first quarter, he felt like it was going at him.
[1:09:54] Speaker 4: Cat was going at him, but in the third quarter,
[1:09:56] Speaker 4: he had some good strips and good possessions on him
[1:09:58] Speaker 4: when Detroit took the lead.
[1:10:00] Speaker 2: Um.
[1:10:02] Speaker 3: But no, he's doing what he's supposed to, man. 10-minute sweep.
[1:10:04] Speaker 3: Cat would have did that the second game. Just shot
[1:10:07] Speaker 3: the ball.
[1:10:07] Speaker 2: That 10-point game? Yeah, just shot the ball. He didn't
[1:10:09] Speaker 2: even get a shot. I watched that game.
[1:10:11] Speaker 5: I had to go back and watch that game, and
[1:10:12] Speaker 5: I seen it was pushing him off of spots a lot.
[1:10:15] Speaker 2: Oh, okay.
[1:10:15] Speaker 5: And when they was doing that, he get lazy, and
[1:10:17] Speaker 5: he pass the ball. When you push him off his spot,
[1:10:20] Speaker 5: that's a good way to guard him. Push him off
[1:10:22] Speaker 5: his spot. Make him redirect his thought of getting it
[1:10:25] Speaker 5: and shooting it and getting comfortable.
[1:10:26] Speaker 3: You crowd his space. He'll throw that bitch. He don't
[1:10:28] Speaker 3: get it back. Yeah, he pass. He was very passive
[1:10:32] Speaker 3: that game. Very passive game that game.
[1:10:34] Speaker 2: I remember that.
[1:10:34] Speaker 3: And I think that's why you see this cat these
[1:10:36] Speaker 3: last couple games for sure.
[1:10:37] Speaker 1: So we're talking about Cat balling the playoffs. Julie's Randall
[1:10:39] Speaker 1: balling the playoffs right now. On the other side, we
[1:10:41] Speaker 1: asked the chat who won the Cat-Randall trade.
[1:10:44] Speaker 2: Chat appears to be prisoners.
[1:10:45] Speaker 1: Of the moment. 63% say the Knicks have now won
[1:10:48] Speaker 1: the trade. 37% say the Wolves. Both 3-1.
[1:10:52] Speaker 2: And the teammate they're beating is way better. You think
[1:10:55] Speaker 2: the Pistons are better? No, I'm talking about Wolves. Oh, yeah.
[1:10:58] Speaker 2: The Wolves. A much stronger roster. Yeah. One is the
[1:11:03] Speaker 2: third seed, the seventh seed, beating the third seed. Future
[1:11:06] Speaker 2: face of the league, Anthony Edwards. Third seed beating the
[1:11:08] Speaker 2: seventh seed. This is how we push narratives, all right?
[1:11:11] Speaker 2: This is what we do here. And this is why
[1:11:14] Speaker 2: I don't stop. This is why we don't stop either.
[1:11:17] Speaker 2: Right there. This is why we don't stop either. Lakers
[1:11:19] Speaker 2: are better than the Pistons. Right there. Right? You want
[1:11:22] Speaker 2: to bring them into this? We ain't talking about them.
[1:11:24] Speaker 2: Lakers are better than the Pistons. The chat said we're ducking.
[1:11:26] Speaker 2: The chat said that we are. No, the chat said
[1:11:28] Speaker 2: y'all ducking. No, the chat said y'all ducking. It's all better.
[1:11:31] Speaker 2: They said they won the trade. How did you win
[1:11:33] Speaker 2: the trade? Building momentum. The team is beating the team.
[1:11:36] Speaker 2: That's better, though. That's all I'm just saying. Nick! You
[1:11:42] Speaker 2: can hate all you want. It's the obvious. What you
[1:11:45] Speaker 2: doing back there? Hey, me. Hate is real. The series
[1:11:49] Speaker 2: is not over, ladies and gentlemen. It's not over. It's
[1:11:52] Speaker 2: Rodney again, mama. Rodney and Cedric. One team is playing
[1:12:00] Speaker 2: Tobias Harris. The other one is playing the Canes.
[1:12:02] Speaker 1: You know, as Steve, our resident Knicks fan, pointed out
[1:12:06] Speaker 1: prior to the series, it would be difficult for the
[1:12:08] Speaker 1: Pistons to win a series with Tobias Harris.
[1:12:10] Speaker 2: That's what I'm saying. One is playing Tobias. The other
[1:12:12] Speaker 2: one is playing LeBron. Tony Allen said that too. Knicks, Tobias,
[1:12:20] Speaker 2: Snow Way. Tobias Harris is going to get it. Well,
[1:12:23] Speaker 2: not winning the series, but not getting cheated neither. And
[1:12:27] Speaker 2: we do have to point that out. The game at zero.
[1:12:29] Speaker 2: He probably wouldn't win the series as in this segment,
[1:12:31] Speaker 2: but still. Was it a missed call or was it cheating? Both. Both.
[1:12:36] Speaker 2: If you're the Detroit Pistons. They admitted they missed the call.
[1:12:41] Speaker 2: If I lived in the state of Michigan and the
[1:12:42] Speaker 2: state of Detroit, we got cheated. They admitted they missed
[1:12:45] Speaker 2: the call. But you admitted it like five minutes later.
[1:12:47] Speaker 2: We just admitted it. You know what? You know what? Actually.
[1:12:51] Speaker 2: She admitted it.
[1:12:52] Speaker 1: Didn't have to wait for the two-minute report. We're going
[1:12:54] Speaker 1: to have to beat you to the point. She admitted it, Nick.
[1:12:56] Speaker 1: Players on the team not even showered yet. She was
[1:12:58] Speaker 1: in my room first. And then she came to your
[1:13:01] Speaker 1: room second.
[1:13:02] Speaker 2: Does that happen? All the time. On the rug. You
[1:13:06] Speaker 2: thought it was the same room. I didn't think it'd
[1:13:08] Speaker 2: be in the same room. No. No, man. No. No. No. No.
[1:13:15] Speaker 2: We do not support that. No.
[1:13:17] Speaker 1: No.
[1:13:17] Speaker 8: No.
[1:13:17] Speaker 2: No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. Shout
[1:13:20] Speaker 2: out Rose Park. That's what y'all was on. Just come
[1:13:22] Speaker 2: on in. Thank you. Whatever you're doing, Ro will help you.
[1:13:36] Speaker 2: Ro will help you. But heading into this series. No, no, no, no, no.
[1:13:41] Speaker 2: Knee hill with your whole car, Ro.
[1:13:45] Speaker 1: Heading into this series, many people picked the underdog Pistons
[1:13:48] Speaker 1: to pull the upset. They've had their chances, but their
[1:13:51] Speaker 1: postseason experience has shown that they've blown fourth quarter leads
[1:13:54] Speaker 1: in three of the four games in this series. But
[1:13:57] Speaker 1: is this Piston squad going to be a problem in
[1:13:59] Speaker 1: the East down the road? Cade Cunningham playing at an
[1:14:02] Speaker 1: all-NBA level, made his first all-star game.
[1:14:05] Speaker 2: This game, first career playoff triple-double.
[1:14:09] Speaker 1: A bad call away from potentially tying this series up 2-2,
[1:14:12] Speaker 1: heading back to the Garden for game five.
[1:14:16] Speaker 2: The second-leading scorer, is he still hurt?
[1:14:18] Speaker 3: What's his name? No, the shooting guard. Well, he's the point.
[1:14:24] Speaker 3: The shooting guard, he averaged like 18 points.
[1:14:27] Speaker 2: Is he playing? Ivy.
[1:14:31] Speaker 4: Well, he ain't played yet in this year. I don't
[1:14:32] Speaker 4: know if he hurt or not. He ain't seen the force.
[1:14:35] Speaker 2: Probably hurt.
[1:14:36] Speaker 4: Playing Holland and other kids. So it's not really a
[1:14:39] Speaker 4: blown lead. They ain't even been up like that. Nick's
[1:14:43] Speaker 4: been in every game. It's a game of possession.
[1:14:46] Speaker 2: Yeah, but saying blown lead, it's not. I know it's nothing.
[1:14:48] Speaker 4: Denver was up 22. That's a blown lead in the
[1:14:57] Speaker 4: fourth quarter. You have 22 in the fourth, and the team,
[1:14:59] Speaker 4: that's a blown lead.
[1:15:00] Speaker 1: But the point is holding their own in this series.
[1:15:03] Speaker 1: The pressure marks about their experience. Obviously, Cade kind of
[1:15:06] Speaker 1: had to lead the charge his first postseason.
[1:15:08] Speaker 5: I know, Joe. I actually agree with you. I kind
[1:15:11] Speaker 5: of think that you could say a 22-0 or a 22-6. Yeah,
[1:15:14] Speaker 5: they're blowing that lead. That's a blown lead. But I
[1:15:16] Speaker 5: consider it a 7-0. If you blow a marginal lead.
[1:15:21] Speaker 2: 21-0 run for the next guy. That's cool. That's cool.
[1:15:24] Speaker 2: Two possessions. But we know it's a game of runs.
[1:15:26] Speaker 2: That's two possessions in this NBA. And we know it's playoffs,
[1:15:30] Speaker 2: so we know every possession counts. A six-point lead? Yes.
[1:15:33] Speaker 2: Six-point lead. It's two possessions. It has to be a
[1:15:36] Speaker 2: 12-point lead. That's what I'm saying. 12... 12, I hear you.
[1:15:39] Speaker 2: But I'm saying we got to look at a six-point
[1:15:41] Speaker 2: lead like a 12-point lead because every possession counts. We
[1:15:45] Speaker 2: can't look at, oh, we blew a lead because we
[1:15:47] Speaker 2: were up 22 and now they came back. We could
[1:15:50] Speaker 2: sustain a six-point lead like we should a 12-point lead.
[1:15:54] Speaker 5: Because turning the ball over is one thing. Offensive rebounds
[1:15:58] Speaker 5: is another second chance points. And then we're looking at transition. Like,
[1:16:02] Speaker 5: how are we going to capitalize on fast breaks and
[1:16:04] Speaker 5: all these other things if we're not really doing what
[1:16:07] Speaker 5: we're supposed to do?
[1:16:07] Speaker 2: But still two possessions. Jay and I, for the season.
[1:16:10] Speaker 4: Like, I hear you and all that, but it's two possessions, man.
[1:16:13] Speaker 4: You're up six points in this NBA, and it's two possessions.
[1:16:15] Speaker 2: And I understand. But it's not like they've just been
[1:16:17] Speaker 2: getting mollywhopped and smacked. Yeah, that's what I'm saying. They're
[1:16:20] Speaker 2: in every game.
[1:16:20] Speaker 4: So the Knicks have been, it's been a back and
[1:16:22] Speaker 4: forth tug of war, drag out, dog fight. And you
[1:16:26] Speaker 4: go up six, seven points. It's not 12, 12, 15.
[1:16:30] Speaker 2: We go up seven. Yeah. We go up seven. The
[1:16:33] Speaker 2: start of the fourth, it was what? They was up what?
[1:16:36] Speaker 2: I think nine something. But look, if we up, right,
[1:16:41] Speaker 2: and we know that. Nine ain't shit. Look, nine ain't shit.
[1:16:43] Speaker 2: Not the start of the fourth, but nine. If we
[1:16:47] Speaker 2: got a nine point lead. Going into the fourth.
[1:16:50] Speaker 1: They were up seven. They took a 9.11 minutes to
[1:16:53] Speaker 1: go in the fourth.
[1:16:54] Speaker 2: So, nine. It's not a lot, right? But for us
[1:16:56] Speaker 2: to stay in front of them, what's our key? For us,
[1:17:01] Speaker 2: we up. For us to stay up, what's our key
[1:17:04] Speaker 2: to stay up? What do we have to do? We
[1:17:08] Speaker 2: have to get stops. We don't have to score. Yeah.
[1:17:12] Speaker 5: We have to get stops and stop their run. They
[1:17:15] Speaker 5: need to make a run. We need to sustain.
[1:17:17] Speaker 2: That's harder to do.
[1:17:18] Speaker 8: That varies. They don't even need to make a run, Sean.
[1:17:21] Speaker 8: They just need to get stops. It's just each possession, right?
[1:17:24] Speaker 8: You get a stop, either you get a bucket or
[1:17:26] Speaker 8: you don't. But whatever it is, to your point, you
[1:17:29] Speaker 8: need to get a stop.
[1:17:30] Speaker 2: Either way it go. Whether you score or you don't,
[1:17:34] Speaker 2: you need to get a stop. I hear you, yes.
[1:17:36] Speaker 5: The strategy for that is they can make a run
[1:17:40] Speaker 5: And they can do what they're supposed to do based
[1:17:42] Speaker 5: on us not doing what we already did what we're.
[1:17:44] Speaker 2: Supposed to do. We ahead. They got to come get us.
[1:17:47] Speaker 2: We can literally chill.
[1:17:49] Speaker 4: Because they're getting stopped, right? They got to get stopped.
[1:17:51] Speaker 4: They got to score. And they're doing it. But like
[1:17:55] Speaker 4: I said, this NBA, man, you three possessions, you up six.
[1:17:59] Speaker 4: Them three possessions, you down three.
[1:18:01] Speaker 2: Boom, boom. Yeah, right. 100%. You up six, go up six,
[1:18:04] Speaker 2: down three. That fast, right? You turn your head. Boom, boom, boom. Quickly,
[1:18:08] Speaker 2: that moment, right? That focus, too. You lose focus just
[1:18:10] Speaker 2: like that, boom. Yeah, you do go back door to
[1:18:13] Speaker 2: give up anything. Like, so.
[1:18:14] Speaker 4: All of these things, but yeah, like, Knicks are, Knicks
[1:18:19] Speaker 4: been a Knicks of the last year. Jalen Brunson is
[1:18:22] Speaker 4: one of the best fourth quarter players we've seen in
[1:18:24] Speaker 4: a long time. So in order to put them away,
[1:18:26] Speaker 4: in order for you in the fourth quarter, if you
[1:18:29] Speaker 4: up 8-10 with Jalen Brunson on their floor, that's not enough.
[1:18:33] Speaker 2: That's not enough. That play validates that. That play. Before
[1:18:38] Speaker 2: that play, before that play.
[1:18:42] Speaker 5: We end the regulation with Cade missing a shot.
[1:18:46] Speaker 2: No, we end with the ref not calling foul.
[1:18:48] Speaker 1: Can I have the media role? you know, be missing
[1:18:51] Speaker 1: shot ball. They was like, oh, man.
[1:18:53] Speaker 2: Get lucky.
[1:18:53] Speaker 5: Somebody get lucky. Somebody try to get the ball and score.
[1:18:56] Speaker 5: The Knicks are playing so well. Just made two possessions
[1:18:59] Speaker 5: before that, like, great.
[1:19:00] Speaker 2: The Knicks are playing so well. Let's not make the call.
[1:19:03] Speaker 2: The game is too good.
[1:19:04] Speaker 5: All right, do we remember us saying, do we want
[1:19:07] Speaker 5: the referees dictating the game at the end?
[1:19:10] Speaker 2: We do have the extender scoff.
[1:19:11] Speaker 5: Do we remember that we said, do we want the
[1:19:13] Speaker 5: referee dictate the outcome of the game?
[1:19:15] Speaker 2: You already know what you're going to do. I'm going
[1:19:16] Speaker 2: to pump fake him. He'll get in there.
[1:19:18] Speaker 5: Or just shoot him like Jalen Brown did against Indiana
[1:19:21] Speaker 5: and just shoot it and make it.
[1:19:23] Speaker 1: All right, well, let's keep this moving. We're going to
[1:19:25] Speaker 1: talk about the series that you've all been waiting for.
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[1:21:11] Speaker 5: Your friends, we know. They told us out here. They
[1:21:15] Speaker 5: both talking. They sitting in your seat right now, Nick.
[1:21:19] Speaker 5: They sitting in your seat, Nick. Hey, stop playing around.
[1:21:22] Speaker 2: Sit down, Cedric. Cedric, Cedric, Cedric. Always stepping on people's couch.
[1:21:32] Speaker 1: So while we wait for Spikey to return, we will
[1:21:35] Speaker 1: talk about the series that you've all been waiting for.
[1:21:37] Speaker 1: The Warriors lost Jimmy Butler in the first quarter of
[1:21:40] Speaker 1: Game 2 with a pelvic contusion, proceeded to lose the
[1:21:42] Speaker 1: game as the Rockets tied the series. Yes, the most
[1:21:46] Speaker 1: important series.
[1:21:47] Speaker 2: The most important. The most important series. Rockets tied the series.
[1:21:50] Speaker 1: So hours before Game 3, it was announced Jimmy would
[1:21:53] Speaker 1: miss the game. So heading into the matchup, the Dubs
[1:21:55] Speaker 1: were 23-7 with Butler in the lineup with a plus
[1:21:58] Speaker 1: 10 point per game differential. but just 25 and 27
[1:22:02] Speaker 1: without Butler with a minus. 5 point per game differential.
[1:22:05] Speaker 1: So Jonathan Kaminga started in place of Butler with Ricky
[1:22:08] Speaker 1: Quinton Post joining him in the starting lineup as Curry
[1:22:10] Speaker 1: looked to shake things up. But the Warriors still had
[1:22:12] Speaker 1: their Batman in Steph Curry, and he looked like a
[1:22:15] Speaker 1: superhero once again.
[1:22:16] Speaker 2: Let's take a look at the highlights.
[1:22:18] Speaker 1: So Steph led the Warriors with 36.7 rebounds and 9 assists.
[1:22:21] Speaker 1: He was 12 for 23 from the field, 5 of
[1:22:23] Speaker 1: 13 from 3. Chef Curry also made some history in
[1:22:26] Speaker 1: the game, passing Tony Parker on the career playoff scoring list.
[1:22:30] Speaker 1: For 10th most in league history, Steph now has the
[1:22:32] Speaker 1: most points by a point guard in playoff history. Jonathan
[1:22:35] Speaker 1: Dikaminga looked shaky in his 17 minutes of action, finishing
[1:22:39] Speaker 1: with 7 points on 3 of 7 shooting. Fred Van
[1:22:42] Speaker 1: Vliet led the Rockets with 17 points, but he was
[1:22:44] Speaker 1: 5 of 14 from the field. Alperin Shingun had 15
[1:22:48] Speaker 1: and 11 boards. After dropping a playoff career-high 38 points
[1:22:51] Speaker 1: in Houston's Game 2 win, Jalen Green was held at
[1:22:53] Speaker 1: just 9 points on 4 of 11 shooting, going scoreless
[1:22:57] Speaker 1: in the fourth quarter of the game. Buddy Hilde and
[1:23:01] Speaker 1: Gary Payton II were big off the bench. Hilde dropping
[1:23:05] Speaker 1: 17 points, including five threes. Let's watch Steph do his thing,
[1:23:10] Speaker 1: just for a moment. That is Batman right there, shout
[1:23:14] Speaker 1: out to Steph.
[1:23:16] Speaker 2: Benefiting.
[1:23:18] Speaker 1: From a solid jumper, strong roster, to keep this Warrior
[1:23:22] Speaker 1: Squad in the game. So GP2, fourth quarter, scored 11
[1:23:24] Speaker 1: of his 16 points. He was seven to nine. from
[1:23:27] Speaker 1: the field in the game. The Rockets were leading midway
[1:23:29] Speaker 1: through the fourth quarter. Warriors went on a 21-9 run
[1:23:34] Speaker 1: to take control of the game. So how important was
[1:23:37] Speaker 1: this Warriors game three win without Jimmy Butler, the self-described
[1:23:41] Speaker 1: Robin of this team, missing the game, pelvic contusion. Steph
[1:23:45] Speaker 1: steps up, does what Steph does, finish performance, gets the
[1:23:49] Speaker 1: Warriors a 2-1 series lead.
[1:23:51] Speaker 4: Hey, Joe, I need you, like, when you're doing your write-up,
[1:23:54] Speaker 4: I need you to call me. So we can start
[1:23:56] Speaker 4: talking about some of the words that you use.
[1:24:00] Speaker 2: I will not call you.
[1:24:02] Speaker 4: Like before you, like when you doing, when y'all doing
[1:24:04] Speaker 4: y'all production meeting and you like, this is what you
[1:24:07] Speaker 4: type in these words. Like when you say Jonathan Kaminga
[1:24:11] Speaker 4: looks shaky, that's not, I'm not going to allow that.
[1:24:15] Speaker 4: It's called not being in the fucking rhythm because I
[1:24:17] Speaker 4: ain't played.
[1:24:18] Speaker 2: That's fine. Right? Right? You just ain't going to take
[1:24:22] Speaker 2: me off the bench. And I had no... You go from...
[1:24:26] Speaker 2: I go from... Listen, the motherfucking words was we don't
[1:24:28] Speaker 2: know if we're going to play him. I ain't played.
[1:24:29] Speaker 2: I've been on the bench. Tell him. You just throw
[1:24:32] Speaker 2: me in the starting lineup, and I'm supposed to play
[1:24:33] Speaker 2: well all of a sudden.
[1:24:34] Speaker 5: Stop telling me to be ready. No, that don't work.
[1:24:38] Speaker 5: It doesn't work that way. Don't say I'm shaky. You
[1:24:41] Speaker 5: keep telling me to be ready. Yeah, it doesn't work
[1:24:43] Speaker 5: that way. But if he would have came and dropped
[1:24:44] Speaker 5: a dub, I would have gave him the prize.
[1:24:46] Speaker 2: But you said he was shaky. No, it's not shaky.
[1:24:49] Speaker 2: It's called not being in rhythm and not knowing what
[1:24:52] Speaker 2: the fuck my role is on this team. It's called
[1:24:53] Speaker 2: being frozen out. Right? That's what that is called, right?
[1:24:57] Speaker 2: Let's call it a spade a spade. Frozen out. No,
[1:25:00] Speaker 2: we're not like, no. We're not going to lie.
[1:25:03] Speaker 4: Just no. The man's not shaky. The man can actually play.
[1:25:06] Speaker 4: They've been fucking with him. And they want to prove
[1:25:09] Speaker 4: that they can win without him. Yeah, that's all that is, man.
[1:25:11] Speaker 4: But like we talked about, there's going to come a
[1:25:13] Speaker 4: point where they may need him. He needed to stay ready. Yeah,
[1:25:15] Speaker 4: but still, so say that. Don't say the man was shaky, Joe.
[1:25:19] Speaker 4: Like people out there, we ain't going to put that
[1:25:21] Speaker 4: narrative out there about the kid.
[1:25:22] Speaker 2: Yeah, because he's still ready for the moment. I know
[1:25:25] Speaker 2: what you mean.
[1:25:26] Speaker 5: Because it's not saying that he's not ready for the
[1:25:28] Speaker 5: moment or he was playing bad because of the moment.
[1:25:31] Speaker 2: It's not saying that. It can be insinuated that shaky
[1:25:34] Speaker 2: is like... He ain't playing well because he ain't good enough.
[1:25:39] Speaker 2: Nothing to do with his talent.
[1:25:41] Speaker 4: We're not saying you meant that, but I'm just saying
[1:25:43] Speaker 4: other people can interpret it in that.
[1:25:46] Speaker 2: I just hear it. I'm just like, nah.
[1:25:48] Speaker 4: I'm watching motherfucking TV. That's why we have our platform.
[1:25:54] Speaker 5: I'm going to protect him because other people, nah.
[1:25:58] Speaker 1: I was prepared for this before. I didn't sleep last night.
[1:26:01] Speaker 2: Me neither. Good. Put on my me under. Came to work. Good.
[1:26:06] Speaker 2: But on a more positive note.
[1:26:08] Speaker 5: Because Cedric and Rodney get on my goddamn nerves, too,
[1:26:12] Speaker 5: keeping me up all night.
[1:26:14] Speaker 2: Keeping me up all night. No, but they are. Go.
[1:26:18] Speaker 2: Houston in trouble. There was a reason we were taking this.
[1:26:21] Speaker 2: I don't. Steph is the GOAT. Let's just talk about
[1:26:24] Speaker 2: fucking Kaminga. Let's talk about Steph Curry is the GOAT.
[1:26:28] Speaker 2: On a more positive note. On this era. On this era. No, not...
[1:26:32] Speaker 2: This is the Stephen Curry era. He out there playing
[1:26:35] Speaker 2: with PE teachers and shit. Steve Kerr just throwing anybody
[1:26:39] Speaker 2: out there with him and he's still performing. Who the
[1:26:41] Speaker 2: fuck is the quote? Who's the guy? The big guy
[1:26:43] Speaker 2: that has to go right now. No, no, no, no, no, no.
[1:26:46] Speaker 2: Quentin Post? Huh? Quentin Post. Who the fuck is that?
[1:26:49] Speaker 2: Rookie big man. Who is he throwing out there right now?
[1:26:52] Speaker 3: Why are you doing this type of thing when Steph
[1:26:54] Speaker 3: is still out there delivering?
[1:26:56] Speaker 2: Yeah. Every night. Yeah. 2-1.
[1:27:00] Speaker 3: They whole starting line up had seven, seven, and seven,
[1:27:04] Speaker 3: and ten, and shit like that.
[1:27:05] Speaker 2: Seven, seven, seven, and ten, and shit like that. Shit
[1:27:08] Speaker 2: is crazy, brother. They did. Doing it without a Luka Doncic. Seven, seven, two,
[1:27:11] Speaker 2: and ten. Doing it without a Luka Doncic is a thing.
[1:27:13] Speaker 2: But it's a young team. Draymond Green, Hall of Famer.
[1:27:16] Speaker 2: Solid vet. He deserved more credit, don't he? He deserved
[1:27:19] Speaker 2: more credit. Definitely does. Young Rockets fan. He deserved more credit,
[1:27:22] Speaker 2: you know, especially doing it to... But Houston is, you know,
[1:27:27] Speaker 2: you got... Some nights, Jeff Green, Gerald Green, I mean,
[1:27:30] Speaker 2: Jalen Green, you're going to have. Every green of them.
[1:27:32] Speaker 2: You just said three. You're going to have. Three different greens.
[1:27:34] Speaker 2: He used the three. Collard Green. You got to have.
[1:27:36] Speaker 2: They come in threes. You got to have. Mixed greens.
[1:27:39] Speaker 3: You know, you got to have all these guys step up. And,
[1:27:41] Speaker 3: you know, they so up and down because they're young. So,
[1:27:44] Speaker 3: you don't know what nights. If they making shots, the
[1:27:46] Speaker 3: game going to be good.
[1:27:48] Speaker 2: If they missing shots, you know, you're going to get
[1:27:51] Speaker 2: what they did the other day. We will give 30
[1:27:53] Speaker 2: his love. Yeah, that's what we're trying to do here. Yeah.
[1:27:57] Speaker 2: If Nick would let us. No, you're talking about Kaminga.
[1:28:00] Speaker 2: You're trying to punk my mans and shit. No, no, no.
[1:28:03] Speaker 2: He's trying to tell you to change up your motherfucking wordplay.
[1:28:07] Speaker 2: If your motherfucker was shaky, he was shaky. Steve Kerr
[1:28:10] Speaker 2: was shaky. So fuck it. Everybody was shaky out there
[1:28:13] Speaker 2: besides Steph. Hey, put your shoulders down when you're doing
[1:28:17] Speaker 2: all this. I'm trying to let y'all know I'm tired
[1:28:20] Speaker 2: of this shit. You know what else I'm tired of?
[1:28:25] Speaker 2: That right there. That right there. Right there.
[1:28:27] Speaker 5: That right there. Can't eat his candy? We don't know
[1:28:30] Speaker 5: who it is. We don't know who it is. Fucking
[1:28:31] Speaker 5: talking to him. We don't know who it is. Somebody's
[1:28:34] Speaker 5: talking to him.
[1:28:35] Speaker 2: Yes. We don't know who talking to you, though. Fuck.
[1:28:37] Speaker 2: I'm going to pick. You're going to pick the right one. Rodney. Rodney. Nope. Rodney,
[1:28:44] Speaker 2: come on.
[1:28:45] Speaker 1: A revolving theme for this episode, but in all sincerity,
[1:28:48] Speaker 1: Steph out there doing his thing.
[1:28:50] Speaker 2: Absolutely.
[1:28:50] Speaker 4: I was telling somebody the other night, it warms my
[1:28:55] Speaker 4: soul to watch him play basketball.
[1:28:57] Speaker 2: To an extent. To an extent. No, it won't. It does.
[1:29:03] Speaker 2: He tries.
[1:29:04] Speaker 5: I want to see him run around and shoot threes, yeah.
[1:29:06] Speaker 5: And after a while, I want to see something else.
[1:29:10] Speaker 4: He'll give you something else.
[1:29:11] Speaker 2: Listen, go watch. Can somebody please go put this layout
[1:29:15] Speaker 2: package together this man put on the other day?
[1:29:17] Speaker 5: I'm saying out of the game. I want to see
[1:29:18] Speaker 5: something else out of the game.
[1:29:19] Speaker 2: That first quarter float. Hey, man. It's nice.
[1:29:22] Speaker 5: Nice as fuck. I just want to see some more
[1:29:26] Speaker 5: of his game. Like, we've seen all of this shoot
[1:29:28] Speaker 5: three shit.
[1:29:28] Speaker 2: I get it.
[1:29:29] Speaker 5: Trust me. Trust me. I get it. I'm just saying
[1:29:33] Speaker 5: I want to see more now.
[1:29:34] Speaker 2: Off-ball movement. You've lived with this. We give you credit
[1:29:37] Speaker 2: for this. What else do you want to see from him? More.
[1:29:39] Speaker 2: Like what? You want to go post somebody up now? No,
[1:29:41] Speaker 2: I just want to see more.
[1:29:42] Speaker 5: What can he imagine? You want to become a dominant
[1:29:44] Speaker 5: post player? He's a horse player, so he should be
[1:29:47] Speaker 5: able to do all kinds of shit now.
[1:29:48] Speaker 2: So you want him to become a dominant post player?
[1:29:50] Speaker 2: Shoot that bitch from half court now. He's doing that.
[1:29:53] Speaker 2: Shoot her from out of bounds, goddamn. Uh, it don't count.
[1:29:56] Speaker 2: You been doing that shit from the tunnel, see? We've
[1:29:58] Speaker 2: been seeing it. He done did everything. That don't count neither.
[1:30:00] Speaker 2: That don't count, yeah. He shoot the ones that count.
[1:30:02] Speaker 2: Dunk that motherfucker. Uh, he has. He has in the past.
[1:30:06] Speaker 2: Then we put you up there with Russ.
[1:30:07] Speaker 5: Like I said, so you want to become... Then we'll
[1:30:09] Speaker 5: put you up there with Russ. Now we have a
[1:30:11] Speaker 5: conversation about greatness.
[1:30:12] Speaker 2: So you want to lead the league in assists? I
[1:30:13] Speaker 2: just want you to look the part.
[1:30:15] Speaker 4: You want to lead the league in assists or something
[1:30:16] Speaker 4: like that?
[1:30:17] Speaker 2: I want you to be the part, look the part,
[1:30:18] Speaker 2: speak the part. Because if Russ got championships, we ain't
[1:30:21] Speaker 2: talking about no other point guard. Wait, wait, wait. You
[1:30:23] Speaker 2: just said....
[1:30:25] Speaker 3: He's the GOAT of this era. Didn't you say you
[1:30:28] Speaker 3: wanted to be like Russ? How many people you got
[1:30:30] Speaker 3: in your head, motherfucker? Statistically, is Russ not the greatest
[1:30:34] Speaker 3: of all time? Statistically, is Russ not the greatest of
[1:30:38] Speaker 3: all time?
[1:30:39] Speaker 5: Statistically, is Russ not the greatest of all time? Statistically,
[1:30:43] Speaker 5: is Russ not the greatest of all time? Who's a
[1:30:45] Speaker 5: better point guard than Russell Westbrook statistically? Are you asking
[1:30:52] Speaker 5: your friends or are you talking to me? Your friends
[1:30:55] Speaker 5: don't got the answers.
[1:30:56] Speaker 2: Your friends don't even got the answers. Your friends don't
[1:31:00] Speaker 2: even got the answers. Who's better than Russell Westbrook as
[1:31:04] Speaker 2: a point guard? I seen you say you can score
[1:31:07] Speaker 2: 81 points. Answer the question. On your ass. On your ass.
[1:31:11] Speaker 2: On you. On you. So who was that in your
[1:31:16] Speaker 2: head that made you say you can score 81 points?
[1:31:18] Speaker 2: It was Rodney. Nigga. So Rodney talk to you too?
[1:31:24] Speaker 1: No.
[1:31:24] Speaker 2: All right, cool. That's what I'm talking about.
[1:31:25] Speaker 3: As long as I get this clarified, we together in this.
[1:31:29] Speaker 3: Rodney be fucking with both of us. I mean, fucking with.
[1:31:31] Speaker 2: Both of our heads.
[1:31:33] Speaker 3: You said you could score 81. I said nigga Steph
[1:31:38] Speaker 3: Curry is the GOAT, so it's cool. So I said
[1:31:40] Speaker 3: I could score 81?
[1:31:41] Speaker 2: Yeah, you said I scored 15. In the first quarter,
[1:31:45] Speaker 2: you know how many more points you got to score. Oh,
[1:31:47] Speaker 2: you looked at the highlight. You did what niggas do. No, no, no, no.
[1:31:51] Speaker 2: You didn't go support the interview. You just looked at
[1:31:53] Speaker 2: the highlight. And then you read the highlight. It was like,
[1:31:56] Speaker 2: what is he talking about?
[1:31:58] Speaker 5: And then Tony Allen.
[1:32:00] Speaker 2: Say what he say, right? And everybody go, what are
[1:32:02] Speaker 2: you talking about?
[1:32:04] Speaker 5: But if niggas did math and counted what I was saying,
[1:32:06] Speaker 5: you would get what I was saying. But y'all half-assed
[1:32:09] Speaker 5: in school. That's why you're here with a fucking imaginary friend.
[1:32:12] Speaker 5: Trying to help you with the math.
[1:32:15] Speaker 2: Your Sasha Fierce.
[1:32:18] Speaker 3: It was like you was trying to get into your shit. Beyonce,
[1:32:23] Speaker 3: you got the third personality. You was like, man, I'm
[1:32:26] Speaker 3: going to score 81 from 15. I'm going to get
[1:32:30] Speaker 3: to 81.
[1:32:30] Speaker 2: They're not helping you with the math right now. No,
[1:32:32] Speaker 2: you said 15 in the first quarter. They're not helping
[1:32:34] Speaker 2: you with the math right now.
[1:32:36] Speaker 3: I was wondering how many more points you was going
[1:32:38] Speaker 3: to score in the second quarter, then the third, and
[1:32:41] Speaker 3: then the fourth.
[1:32:42] Speaker 2: You was wondering?
[1:32:43] Speaker 3: Yeah. How are you going to do it? Because I
[1:32:45] Speaker 3: didn't watch it. I'm only going off of my little clips.
[1:32:48] Speaker 2: If I pull out the times table, little tablet, you
[1:32:50] Speaker 2: sure you're not going to run away? How are you
[1:32:51] Speaker 2: going to do it? Show me. Are you going to
[1:32:52] Speaker 2: run away if I pull out these numbers? Show me.
[1:32:54] Speaker 2: Show me. One plus two. One plus two equals three.
[1:33:01] Speaker 2: First quarter over, you got 15. Two... Plus five is seven.
[1:33:11] Speaker 5: Seven plus 12 is 19.
[1:33:14] Speaker 2: It is. Two fish, blue fish, one fish, two fish. Knick-knack, paddywhack,
[1:33:26] Speaker 2: give a dog a bone. Something you can understand. What's
[1:33:30] Speaker 2: the most you ever scored, though? Realistically, on any game. 34. Oh,
[1:33:35] Speaker 2: any game? Any game, yeah. 47. And you was able
[1:33:44] Speaker 2: to take a lot of shots? No. This was in
[1:33:49] Speaker 2: high school or college? After. Oh, okay.
[1:33:54] Speaker 3: I'm saying 81 is hard. That's why I asked, what's
[1:33:56] Speaker 3: the most you ever scored?
[1:33:59] Speaker 2: It wasn't about me. It wasn't? Well, my bad, man.
[1:34:02] Speaker 2: It's about the team. It was a formula I was
[1:34:04] Speaker 2: giving out to the youth. Oh, to tell them. Like
[1:34:08] Speaker 2: Donovan Mitchell, who can get 70.
[1:34:09] Speaker 4: So, like, highlights Draymond Green back at Michigan State. What
[1:34:15] Speaker 4: happened to that player?
[1:34:17] Speaker 2: He old and got gray hair.
[1:34:18] Speaker 4: No, when he got into, like, Draymond was shooting fadeaways
[1:34:21] Speaker 4: and shit.
[1:34:22] Speaker 1: We had this conversation last week, and I point out
[1:34:25] Speaker 1: that Game 70 at the Finals 2016, his ability to
[1:34:27] Speaker 1: do it, obviously he took a backseat with Steph, Klay.
[1:34:29] Speaker 2: Of course, he's always taken a backseat to them, expectedly. Yeah,
[1:34:34] Speaker 2: but it's like, y'all... But looking at the highlights of
[1:34:37] Speaker 2: Michigan State, I was like... Like, he was getting to it,
[1:34:41] Speaker 2: putting that bitch on the deck and doing, like... I
[1:34:43] Speaker 2: was like, go look... And you get comfortable in your role,
[1:34:46] Speaker 2: don't you? Yeah, but you don't lose that, though. Shit.
[1:34:51] Speaker 2: If you don't work on it. If you don't use it,
[1:34:53] Speaker 2: you lose it. No, you can work on it constantly.
[1:34:56] Speaker 2: It ain't your role no more. It looks like it
[1:34:58] Speaker 2: did at Michigan State. Like, none of it. Remember what
[1:35:01] Speaker 2: he said? He was like, when they were leaving him open... Yeah.
[1:35:04] Speaker 2: Fuck with him. Because I dig it. Because I'm sagging
[1:35:07] Speaker 2: off you. He's like, I used to be that nigga.
[1:35:08] Speaker 2: What you sagging off me for? I understand. Like, what
[1:35:11] Speaker 2: you mean sagging?
[1:35:13] Speaker 5: And then he know he can't shoot it because he
[1:35:15] Speaker 5: supposed to be passionate.
[1:35:16] Speaker 4: The shot don't even look the same as it did
[1:35:18] Speaker 4: in Michigan State. It was fluid then. Because he was confident.
[1:35:21] Speaker 2: Yeah, bro. You can shoot it and you can let
[1:35:23] Speaker 2: you shoot it. Yeah, bro. Shit, that shit is going.
[1:35:26] Speaker 2: When that nigga say, hey, listen, we'd rather you hand
[1:35:29] Speaker 2: it off. I dig it.
[1:35:30] Speaker 3: Then you thinking, I'm open. He don't understand that. Hand
[1:35:33] Speaker 3: it off.
[1:35:35] Speaker 4: Before he had Arc on it and all that, I
[1:35:38] Speaker 4: was just wondering because I saw the highlights and I'm
[1:35:40] Speaker 4: just like, he questioned his own offensive ability at times
[1:35:46] Speaker 4: because he don't look at the rim and.
[1:35:48] Speaker 2: Shit like that. But he does enough to circumvent that shit.
[1:35:54] Speaker 3: Coaches, confidence, all that could play into you not being
[1:35:58] Speaker 3: able to do the shit you used to.
[1:36:00] Speaker 2: I dig it.
[1:36:02] Speaker 4: And then, like, with some, with a lot of people,
[1:36:05] Speaker 4: injuries play a part of it, that you're not able
[1:36:07] Speaker 4: to work on your game.
[1:36:08] Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah. Changing teams, uncertainty, you're trying to fit in.
[1:36:12] Speaker 2: He's been there. The plays of the team, too.
[1:36:15] Speaker 4: But he's been in this one situation for, yeah, I just,
[1:36:20] Speaker 4: because it can definitely benefit them.
[1:36:24] Speaker 2: If he did do more offensively.
[1:36:26] Speaker 5: Well, that's the thing. How do you adapt as Draymond?
[1:36:30] Speaker 5: It's too late now. It's too late now.
[1:36:32] Speaker 2: You can't adapt to be a more offensive player. You
[1:36:35] Speaker 2: can't be like, my game's going to get better now.
[1:36:37] Speaker 2: It's too late now because he's been doing this for
[1:36:39] Speaker 2: so long.
[1:36:40] Speaker 1: 14, 15.
[1:36:40] Speaker 5: It's definitely too late now.
[1:36:44] Speaker 4: I just won over time, right? When he first came in,
[1:36:47] Speaker 4: you watched how he was playing to now.
[1:36:49] Speaker 2: It's just... Like, he's been doing what they have to
[1:36:51] Speaker 2: do to win. Absolutely. Don't get me wrong.
[1:36:53] Speaker 4: He's been playing what, like, they got four championships, so
[1:36:56] Speaker 4: obviously he's been playing a huge role in that. But
[1:36:59] Speaker 4: I'm just looking at the highlights of Michigan State and
[1:37:00] Speaker 4: just like, yeah.
[1:37:01] Speaker 2: Well, Draymond makes his impact felt on the court, off
[1:37:04] Speaker 2: the court.
[1:37:04] Speaker 3: Could you tag off of him and, like, would you
[1:37:07] Speaker 3: just leave Draymond open to make him score, like force
[1:37:10] Speaker 3: him to try to get 20?
[1:37:12] Speaker 2: Double team. You'd have to score more than that. Double team, Steph, just.
[1:37:18] Speaker 2: Make it blatant.
[1:37:19] Speaker 5: I don't think he wants to go in there and
[1:37:23] Speaker 5: do it.
[1:37:24] Speaker 2: Leave him.
[1:37:24] Speaker 4: If I'm defending him, if I'm coming up with a
[1:37:27] Speaker 4: game plan defense, I've been saying this shit for years.
[1:37:30] Speaker 4: He's going to have to score 80, though. But he's
[1:37:32] Speaker 4: smart enough. Draymond is smart enough to do this.
[1:37:36] Speaker 2: Yes. When they pick him, traps him. Totally got the
[1:37:38] Speaker 2: balls to not guard him. That's what they do? No,
[1:37:41] Speaker 2: they don't.
[1:37:41] Speaker 5: They don't have the balls to just listen. But if
[1:37:43] Speaker 5: they give it to him, right? They say, all right,
[1:37:47] Speaker 5: Draymond is going to make a play. The scramble is
[1:37:51] Speaker 5: on the weak side of trying to figure out who's
[1:37:52] Speaker 5: the shooters on the weak side. If you let him
[1:37:55] Speaker 5: make a play between getting it to Quinn Post or
[1:37:57] Speaker 5: getting it to Jimmy Butler.
[1:37:59] Speaker 2: I'm talking about putting two out there on Steph, dog. Yeah,
[1:38:01] Speaker 2: that's what I'm saying. And then you give it to Drake. No,
[1:38:05] Speaker 2: I'm talking. Listen, dog. I don't think you understand what
[1:38:08] Speaker 2: I'm saying. Man, that's what I'm saying. Make it so blatant.
[1:38:10] Speaker 2: Throw the ball to Josiah. Josiah's Draymond. Yes. He's Steph.
[1:38:16] Speaker 2: I would prefer to be Steph. Me and you. are
[1:38:19] Speaker 2: assigned to him. Oh, you're talking about Triangle and 2? No, nigga. Whatever. No.
[1:38:25] Speaker 2: They playing man and man on that side. Whatever they
[1:38:27] Speaker 2: want to do. Absolutely. So, face guarding. Us two.
[1:38:33] Speaker 1: Him.
[1:38:33] Speaker 2: Whole night. The entire night. It's not going to work.
[1:38:38] Speaker 2: He's going to have to lay up.
[1:38:39] Speaker 1: Yeah.
[1:38:40] Speaker 4: That's why I said, coaches ain't got the balls to
[1:38:42] Speaker 4: let this man go get layups.
[1:38:44] Speaker 2: Nah. Right?
[1:38:44] Speaker 5: And it's not going to work with a boxing one.
[1:38:48] Speaker 5: Because Draymond's smart enough to know how to get off.
[1:38:50] Speaker 5: But the other guys ain't playing the zone.
[1:38:51] Speaker 2: Right. They're not playing the zone. They're guarding their man.
[1:38:54] Speaker 5: Yeah, you're right. And they don't know how to get
[1:38:56] Speaker 5: off and be on that. That's all I'm saying. Steph
[1:38:58] Speaker 5: can always get off on teams like this because they
[1:39:00] Speaker 5: don't know how.
[1:39:01] Speaker 2: Because they're sagging off Draymond. They're sagging off Draymond. So
[1:39:04] Speaker 2: they're sagging off of him. You have to be up.
[1:39:05] Speaker 2: You're up.
[1:39:06] Speaker 5: If you gotta be up on him or you just motherfuckin'
[1:39:09] Speaker 5: put two on this guy.
[1:39:10] Speaker 2: And that would be crazy because that would look crazy
[1:39:13] Speaker 2: just to have two on him and we got an
[1:39:16] Speaker 2: advantage on the back side. Wide open layup. Nobody contested, right?
[1:39:22] Speaker 2: If he drives to the basket... If I'm guarding Pajinsky,
[1:39:26] Speaker 2: if I'm.
[1:39:26] Speaker 3: Guarding Kavinda, my hand is in his chest. Who regarding
[1:39:31] Speaker 3: Post could guard both of them at the same time?
[1:39:35] Speaker 2: So you play it like that? Yes. So I got
[1:39:37] Speaker 2: two on the back side.
[1:39:39] Speaker 1: I play two on the back side. Post can shoot
[1:39:42] Speaker 1: the three, but I would much rather have him beat me.
[1:39:44] Speaker 2: People rotate to Draymond. People rotate to Draymond. You want
[1:39:46] Speaker 2: a big playing the two or you want the guard
[1:39:48] Speaker 2: playing the two? Because you got to play two at
[1:39:54] Speaker 2: one with Quentin Post and Draymond. Big to big. They
[1:39:58] Speaker 2: ain't got the balls to do it. Man, Post.
[1:40:01] Speaker 5: I would definitely try it. Yeah, so you would pick
[1:40:04] Speaker 5: on Post.
[1:40:05] Speaker 2: Hey, Dray, I'm going to make them let them both shoot. No, no,
[1:40:08] Speaker 2: you ain't letting Quentin Post shoot it. Post going to
[1:40:09] Speaker 2: make it. He can shoot?
[1:40:11] Speaker 5: Yes, that's why he's out there. He's the new age big.
[1:40:14] Speaker 5: That's why Looney not really getting it. He's the new
[1:40:16] Speaker 5: age big, man. He spaces the floor. If he catching
[1:40:19] Speaker 5: that motherfucker like Brooke Lopez, shoot that bitch from out
[1:40:21] Speaker 5: there like Brooke Lopez.
[1:40:22] Speaker 2: As soon as he catches it, too. Yeah, absolutely.
[1:40:25] Speaker 1: Post struggled with the start, though, one for seven in
[1:40:27] Speaker 1: the game. Draymond had, I'm just saying, Draymond had a
[1:40:29] Speaker 1: three for 11 shooting in that game, so it would
[1:40:31] Speaker 1: seem like that strategy.
[1:40:32] Speaker 2: How many threes did Quinn Post shoot in that game?
[1:40:34] Speaker 2: Three threes. It was 0 for three from three. So
[1:40:37] Speaker 2: he's shooting. He's pulling. He's shooting. But I'm just saying
[1:40:39] Speaker 2: the moment, too. He's a threat.
[1:40:41] Speaker 5: He's a threat at the three, so you got to
[1:40:43] Speaker 5: respect it. Just because he can shoot, you got to
[1:40:45] Speaker 5: respect it. Let's talk a little bit about Draymond's impact
[1:40:48] Speaker 5: in a variety of ways. Let's go back to a
[1:40:49] Speaker 5: moment immediately after the game. We got the video right here.
[1:40:53] Speaker 1: As both teams were leaving the court, Draymond and Jalen
[1:40:56] Speaker 1: Green had to be separated after exchanging some words. Draymond
[1:40:59] Speaker 1: also appeared to repeatedly do a gesture which many believed
[1:41:01] Speaker 1: was him clowning Jalen for painting his fingernails. This comes
[1:41:05] Speaker 1: on the heels of Jalen elbowing Draymond in game two,
[1:41:08] Speaker 1: getting hit with a flagrant. Dray also got a tech
[1:41:09] Speaker 1: in that game, serenaded with F.U. Draymond chants from the
[1:41:12] Speaker 1: Rockets crowd throughout the game. But Draymond's antics helping or
[1:41:17] Speaker 1: hurting the Warriors. Can we see the video one more time, please?
[1:41:20] Speaker 1: I had to watch several times. See them drawing back
[1:41:24] Speaker 1: and forth with each other. Draymond is going to be Draymond.
[1:41:33] Speaker 1: Nobody's better at being Draymond than Draymond.
[1:41:35] Speaker 2: No, they can't be.
[1:41:38] Speaker 1: Talk about elite level trolls. Dylan Brooks. But Draymond on
[1:41:41] Speaker 1: a whole other level. That's what he was saying. Yeah,
[1:41:43] Speaker 1: you paint your fingernails. I'm not scared of nobody that
[1:41:46] Speaker 1: paint their fingernails. That's what I would have told him.
[1:41:55] Speaker 2: No, I put myself in Draymond's situation all the time,
[1:41:58] Speaker 2: don't I? Because I understand. Listen, I understand the mentality, dog.
[1:42:01] Speaker 2: I'm in your head. I understand the mentality. I'm in
[1:42:04] Speaker 2: your head. You're not going to act tough with me, dog.
[1:42:07] Speaker 2: That's all.
[1:42:08] Speaker 4: Listen, that's all I'm saying. You're not going to act
[1:42:11] Speaker 4: tough with me. Not when you do that.
[1:42:13] Speaker 2: Ain't no way. That's all. You can be a stone-cold killer.
[1:42:16] Speaker 5: You're gonna have to prove it you got to show
[1:42:18] Speaker 5: me you got to prove.
[1:42:22] Speaker 2: It That's all I'm saying that's.
[1:42:25] Speaker 3: But I'm curious when they paint they fingernails do they
[1:42:28] Speaker 3: paint their toenails?
[1:42:31] Speaker 2: You should ask you know who we have the nasty
[1:42:33] Speaker 2: nails you should ask Nick Hooper's with the nasty nails
[1:42:36] Speaker 2: category You consider that a good question? Prestige feet? None
[1:42:40] Speaker 2: of my toes are black. That's a good question. My
[1:42:43] Speaker 2: dad got, like, three-inch black gnawed nails. Never thought about that.
[1:42:47] Speaker 2: Do they go all out? Right? Do they go all out? Yeah,
[1:42:50] Speaker 2: that's right. Are they sitting there like this? All right, well. No,
[1:42:54] Speaker 2: but that's a great question. That's what I said. That's
[1:42:57] Speaker 2: what I said. It's a great question. Don't do your
[1:43:00] Speaker 2: hand like that. Don't do that. You like this. Get
[1:43:02] Speaker 2: your nails done. If you're on the phone like this,
[1:43:04] Speaker 2: get your nails done. Might as well. Might as well.
[1:43:09] Speaker 2: When you run across the guys that do, you should
[1:43:12] Speaker 2: definitely inquire. Hey, man, do you want to? Because I
[1:43:14] Speaker 2: can't answer that question for you. He don't fuck with me.
[1:43:18] Speaker 2: I don't even listen.
[1:43:19] Speaker 5: I go get my feet done, and I don't let
[1:43:20] Speaker 5: them shiny buff my toenails. Hey, you can do my hands,
[1:43:24] Speaker 5: but we're not finna buff my toes.
[1:43:26] Speaker 2: No toe buffing. Not at all, bro. Like, I enjoy
[1:43:31] Speaker 2: every part of the foot massage. Hey, you can put
[1:43:35] Speaker 2: all this shit in. I'm with all of it. But
[1:43:37] Speaker 2: we're not finna do that part of it. Well, let's
[1:43:41] Speaker 2: keep this thing moving. Do they get their nails to
[1:43:43] Speaker 2: match the feet? That's what I'm saying. Like, is it
[1:43:45] Speaker 2: the same color? Coordination is key. Like, when they wear
[1:43:47] Speaker 2: their sandals, do they got their toes? That's crazy. Like,
[1:43:51] Speaker 2: dudes get the Western name on their nails now. Like,
[1:43:53] Speaker 2: the clear gel. Like, the dudes get gel nails and
[1:43:56] Speaker 2: it's clear. And I'm like.
[1:43:59] Speaker 4: It's the same length that they just go over their nails,
[1:44:01] Speaker 4: but they get the gel shit, so it's extra shiny longer.
[1:44:03] Speaker 2: What happened to just having dirty nails? Right? I'm not
[1:44:06] Speaker 2: going to agree with that one. What's happened? Everything is
[1:44:11] Speaker 2: wrong with having dirty nails. No. If you must know.
[1:44:14] Speaker 2: I'm sorry. What's happening, man?
[1:44:17] Speaker 1: I'm sorry.
[1:44:19] Speaker 2: What man does this, bro? What, dirty nails?
[1:44:21] Speaker 1: Nigga.
[1:44:21] Speaker 2: With the dirty nails? It's dirty in itself. My shit
[1:44:26] Speaker 2: like this. What's up, my nigga?
[1:44:27] Speaker 5: We know you don't wear lotion, nigga, so we don't
[1:44:29] Speaker 5: expect you to understand what I'm talking about.
[1:44:31] Speaker 2: You got to hear that. That's dirt right there. Dirt
[1:44:34] Speaker 2: keep that together. Well, I'm totally against it. Yo, dirt
[1:44:38] Speaker 2: keep that grip together. I am totally against that. Whatever.
[1:44:41] Speaker 2: That don't... Gil, please come back, man. Gil, come back.
[1:44:45] Speaker 2: I get manicured and pedicured. I'm in there regularly. I'll
[1:44:48] Speaker 2: take care of myself. Take a nigga's hand and look
[1:44:50] Speaker 2: at his fingernails. Turn his hand over and look at his...
[1:44:52] Speaker 2: That's why I don't have black toenails. I took care
[1:44:54] Speaker 2: of mine. Well, we respect it.
[1:44:58] Speaker 5: I wasn't the guy to go in there and see
[1:44:59] Speaker 5: the trainer and get my toes, my ankles taped. and
[1:45:02] Speaker 5: got my socks on the end of my toes because
[1:45:04] Speaker 5: I don't want my teammates to see my toes.
[1:45:06] Speaker 2: That's what he was like? No, that's what some people do. Oh, yeah.
[1:45:09] Speaker 2: Some people got ugly toes, right? I definitely see that.
[1:45:12] Speaker 2: I definitely see that. Dirty nails, ugly toes. I don't
[1:45:16] Speaker 2: know about it.
[1:45:16] Speaker 1: Let's move on to the moment some of you have
[1:45:18] Speaker 1: been waiting for, some of you have been hating for.
[1:45:21] Speaker 1: There was another series that we need to talk about, unfortunately.
[1:45:24] Speaker 1: So after tricking off game three by allowing the Wolves
[1:45:27] Speaker 1: to go on a 13-1 run in the fourth quarter
[1:45:29] Speaker 1: to take a 2-1 lead in the series, the Lakers
[1:45:31] Speaker 1: were fighting for their playoff lives in game four. But
[1:45:34] Speaker 1: Ant-Man and the Wolves had a simple message for LeBron.
[1:45:37] Speaker 1: Future is now, old man. Gil texted me as well.
[1:45:39] Speaker 1: Can somebody else please read these highlights? But gotta give
[1:45:42] Speaker 1: Ant his love. Spectacular on both sides of the ball
[1:45:44] Speaker 1: on this one. 43 points, nine rebounds, six assists. He
[1:45:47] Speaker 1: was 12 to 23 from the field, five for 10
[1:45:49] Speaker 1: from deep. Julius Randle had another solid game as well,
[1:45:52] Speaker 1: putting up 25 points and seven rebounds.
[1:45:56] Speaker 2: J.J. Redick made the decision.
[1:45:57] Speaker 1: To keep the five second-half starters in for the entire
[1:46:00] Speaker 1: third and fourth quarter, replacing Jackson Hayes with Black and Miles,
[1:46:03] Speaker 1: also known as Dorian Finney-Smith. Decision proved to be unbeneficial,
[1:46:08] Speaker 1: but Luka did lead the way with 38 points with
[1:46:11] Speaker 1: just two assists. LeBron had 27-12 rebounds, eight assists, three blocks,
[1:46:15] Speaker 1: and three steals in 46 minutes of action, but did
[1:46:18] Speaker 1: go scoreless in the fourth quarter. Lakers' big three struggled offensively.
[1:46:25] Speaker 1: Down the stretch. Let's enjoy these moments right here when
[1:46:28] Speaker 1: they were playing high-level basketball.
[1:46:31] Speaker 2: Struggle down. You have a problem with the writing on this? No, no.
[1:46:34] Speaker 2: It's pristine. Beautiful. Absolutely. Everywhere more eloquent than the last.
[1:46:38] Speaker 2: Lakers blew a 10-point fourth-quarter lead. I do not like
[1:46:41] Speaker 2: that travel, man. That travel is so nasty.
[1:46:45] Speaker 1: Anthony Edwards scored 16 of his 43 points in the
[1:46:47] Speaker 1: fourth quarter. Nas Reed, Jada McDaniels, and Dante DiVincenzo combining
[1:46:50] Speaker 1: for the other 16. Wolves outscored the Lakers 32-19. in
[1:46:55] Speaker 1: the final frame. Lakers had no answers for the Wolves'
[1:46:58] Speaker 1: late run with Luke and LeBron both tricking off point-blank layups.
[1:47:02] Speaker 1: Minnesota taking advantage. Wolves leading by one of the final moments.
[1:47:11] Speaker 1: LeBron may well could have been a game-alterer on play,
[1:47:14] Speaker 1: slapping the ball out of Ant's hand. So play was
[1:47:16] Speaker 1: initially ruled as an Ant. Man, turnover, but after the
[1:47:19] Speaker 1: Lakers took a timeout to try and advance the ball,
[1:47:21] Speaker 1: the Wolves decided to use their coach's challenge after extensive review,
[1:47:24] Speaker 1: including what many believe to be a never-before-seen camera angle.
[1:47:28] Speaker 1: The AC-130, as we've been referring to on social media,
[1:47:31] Speaker 1: showed LeBron appear to slap Ant-Man's wrist. Refs reversed the call.
[1:47:35] Speaker 1: Ruling was actually a foul on LeBron, giving Ant two
[1:47:37] Speaker 1: free throws. Lakers got their final timeout. Ability to advance
[1:47:41] Speaker 1: the ball taken away. Ant-Man knocked down the free throws.
[1:47:43] Speaker 1: Lakers had one last chance to tie the game, but
[1:47:45] Speaker 1: Austin Reeves missed the three. The Wolves now head back
[1:47:49] Speaker 1: to L.A. for game five with a 3-1 series lead.
[1:47:53] Speaker 1: Still seven game series. Still much more basketball left to
[1:47:56] Speaker 1: be played as the series returns here to Los Angeles.
[1:48:00] Speaker 1: City of Angels. The city of the World Series champion
[1:48:02] Speaker 1: Los Angeles Dodgers.
[1:48:04] Speaker 2: Led by Dave Roberts.
[1:48:05] Speaker 1: What they got to do with this conversation? I was
[1:48:06] Speaker 1: at Dodger Day yesterday, can't you? But they got to
[1:48:09] Speaker 1: do with this. Watching some exhilarating baseball.
[1:48:11] Speaker 5: But what they got to do with this baseball season.
[1:48:13] Speaker 5: So you needed some feel-good words to go along with
[1:48:16] Speaker 5: the fact that y'all down 3-1.
[1:48:17] Speaker 2: Mm-hmm. That was, you know, as some people point out,
[1:48:21] Speaker 2: are not leading the series after four games. Yeah. Not tied.
[1:48:24] Speaker 2: That's secure one. So what are we going to talk about?
[1:48:27] Speaker 2: Which part of this do we want to talk about?
[1:48:28] Speaker 1: Lakers have now lost nine straight road playoff games, second
[1:48:31] Speaker 1: longest streak in franchise history. Instead of talking about the Lakers,
[1:48:36] Speaker 1: I will read the cat in the hat now to
[1:48:37] Speaker 1: continue this.
[1:48:38] Speaker 2: Redfish, bluefish.
[1:48:43] Speaker 1: But, for you gentlemen, this is your moment to hate.
[1:48:47] Speaker 1: Gil wanted you to have your time to shine. To
[1:48:51] Speaker 1: get your hate on without any distractions or delays. Here
[1:48:54] Speaker 1: on Gil's Reader presented by Underdog Woo Woo. So biggest
[1:48:56] Speaker 1: takeaways from the Wolves holding down home court with their
[1:48:59] Speaker 1: wins in game three and game four.
[1:49:03] Speaker 2: You sure my cat's? What was the question again?
[1:49:06] Speaker 1: Biggest takeaways from the Wolves holding down home court in
[1:49:11] Speaker 1: their game three and game four wins.
[1:49:12] Speaker 5: I think the biggest takeaway was Anthony Edwards showing up
[1:49:17] Speaker 5: and saying, fuck you, pay me. You got to earn
[1:49:24] Speaker 5: this and we not laying down no more for no
[1:49:26] Speaker 5: false king.
[1:49:29] Speaker 2: It's my turn. Lucas Lander already. It's my turn. What's up?
[1:49:33] Speaker 5: Take The king's throne and Edwards, we're not playing no more.
[1:49:37] Speaker 2: Send him home.
[1:49:40] Speaker 1: Told Obama to his face, I'm the truth. The king
[1:49:45] Speaker 1: did co-sign that, also telling Obama, yes, he is the truth.
[1:49:50] Speaker 2: That's all I got to say about that. Yeah, I
[1:49:58] Speaker 2: think sipping rather loudly from the Cemetery Larry Cup. J.J.
[1:50:04] Speaker 2: Redick being a rookie coach reared his nasty, ugly head.
[1:50:07] Speaker 2: That was in my notes.
[1:50:13] Speaker 4: In this situation, in this sense, I looked up how
[1:50:21] Speaker 4: many minutes that LeBron James has played before the other day.
[1:50:28] Speaker 2: 40-year-old LeBron James, year 22. Yes, the 40-year-old LeBron James, right?
[1:50:32] Speaker 2: 40-year-old man. It's called....
[1:50:35] Speaker 4: How many playoff minutes he's played. You can't expect that
[1:50:43] Speaker 4: for a 40-year-old, all the greatness that he has shown,
[1:50:46] Speaker 4: all the heroics that he's shown, he's still human, man.
[1:50:50] Speaker 1: Yeah.
[1:50:51] Speaker 4: And to think that he doesn't need a break. We're
[1:50:55] Speaker 4: going to tell you, I was talking to somebody, so
[1:50:57] Speaker 4: you don't think he asked him? Of course he asked him.
[1:51:01] Speaker 4: We're going to say no every single time. I don't
[1:51:03] Speaker 4: care how I'm feeling. I don't want to come out
[1:51:04] Speaker 4: the game. So you can't leave it up to the player.
[1:51:08] Speaker 4: You got to take control of the situation.
[1:51:11] Speaker 2: And I.
[1:51:12] Speaker 4: Saw Kendrick Perkins said, I'm going to agree with him.
[1:51:14] Speaker 4: When you're up 10, you got to find a minute
[1:51:17] Speaker 4: or two to get this man out of the game.
[1:51:19] Speaker 4: And look at the end of the third quarter when
[1:51:22] Speaker 4: he went to the bench and the camera was on him.
[1:51:30] Speaker 4: Fucking exhausted. He has to do too much at this
[1:51:35] Speaker 4: age in order for them to compete. You get 90%
[1:51:39] Speaker 4: of your scoring from four guys. You're not going to
[1:51:41] Speaker 4: beat nobody in a series that way. I don't care
[1:51:44] Speaker 4: for who, you're not. It's just too much in these moments, man. Like,
[1:51:49] Speaker 4: you got to rely, like, you didn't get to this
[1:51:52] Speaker 4: point only playing five guys, man.
[1:51:57] Speaker 2: You didn't. And you look at Indiana, right? This is
[1:52:01] Speaker 2: second quarter. Rick Carlisle didn't play 10 guys already. This
[1:52:05] Speaker 2: is how I got here. This is how I've been
[1:52:08] Speaker 2: successful at getting here. The Knicks do it. Them dudes
[1:52:12] Speaker 2: ain't 40.
[1:52:14] Speaker 5: They've been doing it. Josh Hart has been doing it.
[1:52:17] Speaker 5: Mikael Bridges has played 600 straight games.
[1:52:22] Speaker 2: They've been doing it. They ain't 40. They don't have
[1:52:25] Speaker 2: that many miles.
[1:52:28] Speaker 4: They got LeBron shit in yellow on the fucking basketball
[1:52:31] Speaker 4: reference because these are career numbers. Minutes played, career number.
[1:52:36] Speaker 4: Minutes playoff played, career numbers. Nobody's close to these numbers
[1:52:42] Speaker 4: as far as minutes on the floor.
[1:52:48] Speaker 2: So you got to win when you're on them. Has
[1:52:49] Speaker 2: to do too much. It might be over. It might
[1:52:53] Speaker 2: be over. He has to do too much. He needs help.
[1:52:55] Speaker 2: Luke is out there.
[1:52:57] Speaker 4: But the things that LeBron does, just trying to overcome,
[1:53:01] Speaker 4: Luka has no interest in those.
[1:53:02] Speaker 2: Parts of the fucking game. At all. That's what I
[1:53:04] Speaker 2: said about the AD situation. Right?
[1:53:07] Speaker 4: People want to talk about the trade. At least you
[1:53:09] Speaker 4: got that part of it from him. And he was
[1:53:11] Speaker 4: averaging fucking 26. We didn't say.
[1:53:13] Speaker 2: He was going to win this year like that. And
[1:53:18] Speaker 2: it ain't over. It ain't over. Of course, you still
[1:53:21] Speaker 2: got games to play. We did smoke the Mike Malone pack, though.
[1:53:24] Speaker 2: You still have games to play. Why do you keep
[1:53:26] Speaker 2: bringing people into this conversation? Y'all playing the Minnesota Timberwolves, right?
[1:53:30] Speaker 1: No, I'm just saying we were smoking the Mike Malone pack.
[1:53:31] Speaker 1: You need to worry about this Timberwolves pack. You need
[1:53:34] Speaker 1: to worry about this Timberwolves pack. You need to worry
[1:53:37] Speaker 1: about this Wolf pack.
[1:53:39] Speaker 5: This is the pack you need to worry about.
[1:53:42] Speaker 2: This fucking Wolf pack. Sweet! Enjoy this moment, gentlemen. I'm
[1:53:47] Speaker 2: trying to help y'all out here Yesterday was sad. I'm
[1:53:51] Speaker 2: trying to help y'all out here. Yesterday was sad. Are
[1:53:53] Speaker 2: you concerned?
[1:53:54] Speaker 3: Yesterday was very sad. I don't think nobody watched any
[1:53:57] Speaker 3: other games after that.
[1:53:59] Speaker 2: The TV was off. I blame Shayna Sharp. His whole
[1:54:06] Speaker 2: energy just fucked us up. You're not going to blame
[1:54:08] Speaker 2: Kevin Gates? Y'all ain't won a game since he showed
[1:54:14] Speaker 2: up at the... Damn. I forgot all about him. Bringing
[1:54:18] Speaker 2: people into this conversation. How about the five guys that
[1:54:22] Speaker 2: played the dude that made the decision for all of you?
[1:54:26] Speaker 2: How about we get into the front office? The Los
[1:54:32] Speaker 2: Angeles Lakers are addicted to.
[1:54:35] Speaker 5: The nostalgia of a fading star that they refused to
[1:54:38] Speaker 5: let off.
[1:54:39] Speaker 2: Instead of building the future of the Los Angeles Lakers.
[1:54:42] Speaker 2: They're riding a story.
[1:54:43] Speaker 1: But do you feel like making that Luka trade wasn't
[1:54:46] Speaker 1: building towards the future of this?
[1:54:47] Speaker 2: Well, we're talking about the last seven years. Not when
[1:54:50] Speaker 2: LeBron is still there.
[1:54:51] Speaker 5: The last seven years they've been riding this wave because
[1:54:54] Speaker 5: they've been waiting for this to be a part of credit.
[1:54:57] Speaker 5: They get credit for having LeBron last. Instead of building
[1:55:01] Speaker 5: a future that can last. And that's been the problem
[1:55:03] Speaker 5: because they haven't built any sustainable rosters that can have
[1:55:08] Speaker 5: veteran leadership into the playoffs that can get you past
[1:55:11] Speaker 5: the second round. So you haven't been past the second
[1:55:13] Speaker 5: round because the front office refuses to get guys in
[1:55:16] Speaker 5: the offseason that can sustain that. Didn't make a Western
[1:55:19] Speaker 5: Conference final.
[1:55:20] Speaker 2: Yeah. That wasn't good enough. And it's a 50-win team.
[1:55:23] Speaker 2: Didn't win the hardest championship in NBA history. Wasn't good enough.
[1:55:25] Speaker 2: In 2020. 2020. We're talking about 2025 here, though. It's
[1:55:29] Speaker 2: not over. They've been in the past, man. You can't
[1:55:32] Speaker 2: be living in the past. We're talking about now. It
[1:55:36] Speaker 2: was number three in the West. They are currently. You
[1:55:41] Speaker 2: are currently the three seed. You're currently the three seed
[1:55:45] Speaker 2: in 2025. I don't want to talk about it. I
[1:55:48] Speaker 2: don't want to talk about what y'all did. Why does
[1:55:52] Speaker 2: your star have zero points in the fourth quarter? Can't
[1:55:56] Speaker 2: blame LeBron.
[1:55:57] Speaker 4: I'm looking at the totality of the whole thing. You
[1:56:01] Speaker 4: got some young dogs over there that's not afraid. You
[1:56:04] Speaker 4: got some young wolves over there that ain't afraid of
[1:56:06] Speaker 4: the old dog.
[1:56:07] Speaker 5: Ant Edwards didn't go pushing Luka. He wasn't pushing Luka, right?
[1:56:10] Speaker 5: Can you imagine Ant pushing Luka like that? Elder abuse, actually.
[1:56:13] Speaker 2: You remember that? You see that? No place in the
[1:56:14] Speaker 2: game for it. Just like now. If you was at
[1:56:17] Speaker 2: the gym, they'd be messing with you. Really? Old ass
[1:56:19] Speaker 2: doing up here. You think so? Yeah, man. You don't
[1:56:22] Speaker 2: believe that. You don't believe that. Shout out to those muscles. Functional.
[1:56:26] Speaker 2: They're functional. They're not. They're functional muscles. So did LeBron
[1:56:29] Speaker 2: hit his hand or his wrist? The ref cheated all yesterday.
[1:56:34] Speaker 2: It was just. That's a question. That was a question, y'all.
[1:56:37] Speaker 2: It was. Well, technically the wrist part of the hand.
[1:56:39] Speaker 2: I didn't ask you that. Was his hand.
[1:56:40] Speaker 4: Of course, it's attached. It is attached to the hand.
[1:56:44] Speaker 4: Was it his wrist or his hand?
[1:56:47] Speaker 2: Should have been going the other way. That was Rodney.
[1:56:51] Speaker 2: Is that what I? Oh, that was Rodney to answer? Oh,
[1:56:53] Speaker 2: because he can see it. Oh. So... Hey, look, man. Yeah.
[1:56:59] Speaker 2: It's all right. It ain't no... It wasn't his hand.
[1:57:02] Speaker 2: We're going back that way. It was his wrist. Ten
[1:57:05] Speaker 2: seconds left. Pauly, can we cue that video? I didn't
[1:57:08] Speaker 2: see that. Do we got to see it? So let's
[1:57:11] Speaker 2: go back to that play that altered the game. Hold on.
[1:57:13] Speaker 2: So we got the same.
[1:57:15] Speaker 4: Blurred vision that we showed on the Aaron Gordon dunk
[1:57:18] Speaker 4: just by the way. So whatever that camera was, we
[1:57:20] Speaker 4: got it. We showed it. The league said that they
[1:57:24] Speaker 4: never used the camera they had from LeBron in the
[1:57:26] Speaker 4: history of basketball. Merely there to ruin the.
[1:57:30] Speaker 2: Lakers' hope to dream. Adam Silver. That was a good one.
[1:57:34] Speaker 1: Jokes on you, niggas. We've had this camera 50 years.
[1:57:39] Speaker 1: Never used it. The AC-130.
[1:57:43] Speaker 2: Can I ask y'all a question? It's like a look, though. Like, really?
[1:57:47] Speaker 4: Like, when the game is on the line, why do
[1:57:48] Speaker 4: teams continue to run pick and rolls?
[1:57:52] Speaker 2: To try to get a certain matchup. Lazy. Right? It's lazy.
[1:57:55] Speaker 2: To get a certain matchup. Why? When the game is
[1:57:56] Speaker 2: on the line. Because what they proved. Now, hold on.
[1:58:00] Speaker 2: Just hear me out. In y'all's situation, right? End of
[1:58:04] Speaker 2: the game.
[1:58:06] Speaker 5: Y'all running like they just double team. Then they just
[1:58:09] Speaker 5: double team to get it out of the double team.
[1:58:12] Speaker 5: And then you threw it to the next best guy.
[1:58:14] Speaker 5: Guess they did double team him too. So you're not
[1:58:17] Speaker 5: even playing to play out of this. Just like whatever happens.
[1:58:21] Speaker 2: So imagine.
[1:58:22] Speaker 5: So if it's his hand never before seen camera, you
[1:58:25] Speaker 5: see his fingers. You can't see We see this is
[1:58:29] Speaker 5: his knuckles were covered by LeBron. That's wrist, right? Knuckles covered.
[1:58:34] Speaker 2: That's wrist. Whose knuckles? The extension of his knuckles covered.
[1:58:38] Speaker 2: Is he hitting the ball now? Does he ever?
[1:58:41] Speaker 1: Does he ever actually hit the ball? The side of
[1:58:44] Speaker 1: his pinky hair appears to karate chop the ball.
[1:58:46] Speaker 2: Okay. Yeah, that makes sense. Shout out Mr. Miyagi. You
[1:58:51] Speaker 2: don't call that? You're not going to want that call?
[1:58:54] Speaker 2: They ain't calling for the Knicks, huh, Nick? As an
[1:58:56] Speaker 2: ethical basketball player, I wouldn't want a game. You wouldn't
[1:58:58] Speaker 2: want that, right? I would have did like Alex in
[1:59:00] Speaker 2: the commercial. Do you think LeBron will? Do you think
[1:59:02] Speaker 2: if LeBron is Ant-Man on that call, he's asking for
[1:59:05] Speaker 2: a foul? See, that's the thing. You don't think LeBron
[1:59:08] Speaker 2: is going crazy?
[1:59:09] Speaker 5: That's the thing. That's the thing, right? ESPN didn't want
[1:59:14] Speaker 5: to post my tweet. I'm mad at them. What was
[1:59:17] Speaker 5: the tweet shot? What I just said. How the hell
[1:59:20] Speaker 5: are you sitting there saying the hand is part of
[1:59:23] Speaker 5: the ball and.
[1:59:23] Speaker 2: You clearly hit his wrist? It wasn't that high. It
[1:59:27] Speaker 2: wasn't this high.
[1:59:28] Speaker 5: If that's the case, you clearly don't foul nobody. It
[1:59:31] Speaker 5: was like 6%.
[1:59:32] Speaker 2: Wrist, 94%. Back to what you were just like.
[1:59:36] Speaker 4: If you got the ball, LeBron, and Anthony Edwards went
[1:59:39] Speaker 4: across your wrist, do you want that call or not?
[1:59:42] Speaker 5: And the answer to that is... Well, LeBron's an ethical man,
[1:59:45] Speaker 5: ethical basketball player. No, we'll go back to Boston, right?
[1:59:47] Speaker 2: Like I just said... We'll go back to the ball.
[1:59:48] Speaker 2: Like I just said earlier, we all... We'll go back
[1:59:50] Speaker 2: to the ball. But I said we all are what?
[1:59:52] Speaker 2: The no call. But I just said we all are what? Liar. Liar.
[1:59:55] Speaker 2: You did say that earlier. Right? For sure. So therefore.
[1:59:58] Speaker 2: We can sell the fuck out of that motherfucker. Therefore, bruh. Yeah.
[2:00:02] Speaker 2: And we're going to die on that hill. We will
[2:00:04] Speaker 2: die on that hill. Until they get that car. You
[2:00:06] Speaker 2: ain't going to get it. We're going to sell it. No,
[2:00:08] Speaker 2: your hand doesn't hit him on his wrist. Can't get it.
[2:00:11] Speaker 2: If it's me as a defender. No, I don't want
[2:00:14] Speaker 2: you to call that. Hell no. As an offensive player,
[2:00:16] Speaker 2: I want you to please call. All of my phone.
[2:00:19] Speaker 2: All right? So, yeah, we are full of shit at
[2:00:22] Speaker 2: its finest, people. They should ask you for it in
[2:00:25] Speaker 2: the NBA. Right. They should ask you for it. They
[2:00:28] Speaker 2: should ask you for it. At the top. Yeah. I'm
[2:00:30] Speaker 2: shooting for it. When you make it, I get to
[2:00:32] Speaker 2: do it. I get to match it. Yeah, that's the
[2:00:36] Speaker 2: way it goes.
[2:00:37] Speaker 5: I should be able to match it.
[2:00:41] Speaker 2: We saw the play. Obviously, the Lakers called a timeout
[2:00:43] Speaker 2: trying to advance the ball. Wolves challenged.
[2:00:45] Speaker 1: So the Lakers ended up losing their timeout ability to
[2:00:47] Speaker 1: advance the ball. That's crazy. That's the crazier part. To
[2:00:51] Speaker 1: advance the ball. So ball goes out on Ant. It's
[2:00:54] Speaker 1: called on the floor. Lakers call a timeout to advance it.
[2:00:56] Speaker 1: But it's their last play going. So it was.
[2:00:58] Speaker 2: Supposed to be Lakers ball and advance.
[2:01:01] Speaker 1: Timberwolves decide to challenge during that. Lakers lose the timeout.
[2:01:07] Speaker 1: Timberwolves get the ball. Ant gets the two free throws.
[2:01:09] Speaker 2: So who challenged? Who made the challenge? Finch. Finch made
[2:01:11] Speaker 2: the challenge.
[2:01:12] Speaker 1: So LeBron had these thoughts on the call getting reversed
[2:01:16] Speaker 1: to a foul on him. It's coming right now in
[2:01:20] Speaker 1: the media.
[2:01:20] Speaker 2: That's crazy. On my time out? Enjoy these moments, Brian Hader.
[2:01:26] Speaker 2: So that next possession, you're supposed to advance the ball. Yeah, but.
[2:01:30] Speaker 5: That's why Luka took the ball to LeBron and all
[2:01:32] Speaker 5: that shit happened.
[2:01:33] Speaker 2: All the time. You know, hand is part of the ball.
[2:01:35] Speaker 2: That's what they say. That is what they say.
[2:01:37] Speaker 9: I feel like the hand was a part of that ball.
[2:01:39] Speaker 9: I was able to get his hand on top of
[2:01:41] Speaker 9: the ball. The ball stripped out and out on him.
[2:01:43] Speaker 9: So I've seen that play over and over before, but
[2:01:48] Speaker 9: it is what it is.
[2:01:49] Speaker 2: Last question. Very ethical, LeBron. Very honest, earnest answer. Man.
[2:01:55] Speaker 2: It says on the rule book. The rule book says.
[2:01:58] Speaker 2: So if his hand was on top.
[2:01:59] Speaker 4: Of the ball, it would have been like this, right?
[2:02:02] Speaker 4: On the steel frame that we just all seen. Hand
[2:02:06] Speaker 4: on top of the ball as he explained it, right?
[2:02:09] Speaker 4: This is the way it would have looked. One hand
[2:02:11] Speaker 4: on top of the other. You slap down.
[2:02:14] Speaker 5: That's a no call. That's a no call. Because the
[2:02:17] Speaker 5: ball goes down. Even if you slap off my hand,
[2:02:20] Speaker 5: all that. As long as my hand touching the ball.
[2:02:22] Speaker 2: Yeah, some part. Some part of it. It's a no call.
[2:02:25] Speaker 2: That's a no call right there. But in that situation.
[2:02:28] Speaker 2: I don't know. I got to check on him. The
[2:02:29] Speaker 2: ref could change the game. The ref could change the game.
[2:02:31] Speaker 2: I'm like, are you acting? No. But you know what
[2:02:33] Speaker 2: I didn't hear him say? The ref changed the game
[2:02:36] Speaker 2: for certain people? You know what I didn't hear him say?
[2:02:38] Speaker 2: I got to do better in the fourth. Man. Well,
[2:02:43] Speaker 2: that was just a small snippet. I got to do
[2:02:45] Speaker 2: better in the fourth. Man, I got to.
[2:02:47] Speaker 5: Did he say something about the turnover at half court?
[2:02:48] Speaker 5: Score some points for my team to win in the fourth.
[2:02:51] Speaker 2: I'm asking. I didn't see the press conference. Did he
[2:02:53] Speaker 2: say something about the turnover at half court? He talked
[2:02:54] Speaker 2: about a lot of different topics. I don't think they
[2:02:56] Speaker 2: want to highlight that stuff. If ESPN can block me, man, goddamn.
[2:03:00] Speaker 2: He talked about the trick layup he had, the trick layup.
[2:03:04] Speaker 1: The Luka one. It's all plays. What about the Luka turnover, though?
[2:03:07] Speaker 1: But there was a play in the third quarter, too.
[2:03:09] Speaker 1: Brown shot the tech. We had Austin Reeves on the court.
[2:03:12] Speaker 1: Ended up missing that free throw. You can go back
[2:03:14] Speaker 1: and watch. But he hit the free throw before a
[2:03:16] Speaker 1: good attack. He goes and takes the next one. Misses
[2:03:18] Speaker 1: that one. But they're complaining about the Luka trip. That's
[2:03:23] Speaker 1: a foul.
[2:03:25] Speaker 2: That's a foul. That's a foul. That's a foul. Slovenian Jesus.
[2:03:33] Speaker 2: It's the same type of call. It's the hand on
[2:03:36] Speaker 2: the ball. It used to be no matter how I tripped.
[2:03:44] Speaker 2: Sometimes people who are overweight, they just keep falling. But
[2:03:49] Speaker 2: you tripped me. Yeah. You can balance yourself when I
[2:03:54] Speaker 2: trip you. You'd be like, hey, hey, hey. And then
[2:03:57] Speaker 2: you'd be like, whoa, whoa, whoa. And then it's just
[2:04:00] Speaker 2: a boom. Free Willie.
[2:04:03] Speaker 1: So people, after watching the game, reacted that Nico may
[2:04:06] Speaker 1: not have been incorrect in making that move. How did
[2:04:08] Speaker 1: Luka's conditioning look to you, gentlemen?
[2:04:10] Speaker 2: He got the flu, bro. He should be able to. Listen,
[2:04:13] Speaker 2: he's young enough. 26 years old.
[2:04:15] Speaker 4: He's young enough to do what Josh Hart and all
[2:04:17] Speaker 4: them dudes are doing, playing them many minutes.
[2:04:19] Speaker 2: Absolutely. He should be able to do that. LeBron, no.
[2:04:21] Speaker 4: He should be able to play the whole second half without.
[2:04:24] Speaker 4: Luka has the flu.
[2:04:25] Speaker 2: Okay.
[2:04:26] Speaker 1: Who poisoned him is the real question. Yeah, that's just crazy.
[2:04:30] Speaker 1: I think A-Rod.
[2:04:31] Speaker 2: All right, cool. The flu. Okay. The flu. He had
[2:04:36] Speaker 2: 15 the other night, right? 16 or something like that?
[2:04:38] Speaker 2: They say he didn't feel well. He didn't feel well.
[2:04:41] Speaker 2: I dig it. That's usually what happens when you get
[2:04:43] Speaker 2: the itis. Yeah. Okay, he didn't feel well. I think
[2:04:46] Speaker 2: he went out there and played. Nothing a good nap
[2:04:48] Speaker 2: can't take. He had a bounce back game. It wasn't
[2:04:51] Speaker 2: like he played bad the other day. Had a very
[2:04:53] Speaker 2: good game. Just not interested in playing any defense out there, Muff.
[2:04:56] Speaker 2: At all.
[2:04:57] Speaker 1: Which is how you see a 40-year-old LeBron coming through,
[2:04:59] Speaker 1: getting some big stops towards the end of the game.
[2:05:01] Speaker 4: It doesn't inspire him at all. There's so many lost
[2:05:05] Speaker 4: plays out there, man. Their defense has to do so
[2:05:09] Speaker 4: much to cover for him. Like, dudes get wide open
[2:05:13] Speaker 4: looks because they got to be so far at the
[2:05:16] Speaker 4: elbows when the guy has the ball at him at
[2:05:18] Speaker 4: the top of the key.
[2:05:19] Speaker 2: They got to be so far in, man. J.D. McDaniels
[2:05:21] Speaker 2: is averaging 20 a game right now based on Lucas'
[2:05:24] Speaker 2: health defense. All right. Period. Like, he a liability out there, man.
[2:05:29] Speaker 2: It's embarrassing at times. Man, Anthony Edwards at 43? I
[2:05:34] Speaker 2: did not know that. Mm-hmm. Big game. Got to give
[2:05:37] Speaker 2: it up to Ed.
[2:05:38] Speaker 5: And he was bullying your king the whole time.
[2:05:42] Speaker 2: It's okay. You ever seen a well-done steak? You ever
[2:05:48] Speaker 2: had a well-done steak? Can't play guys like that. And
[2:05:52] Speaker 2: an ounce of blood in them. It's over. So let's
[2:05:55] Speaker 2: get back to that.
[2:05:55] Speaker 1: So Lakers have been in the last two games late
[2:05:57] Speaker 1: in the fourth quarter before melting down. So as Jovan
[2:06:00] Speaker 1: Buha pointed out, Wolves have outscored the Lakers in each
[2:06:02] Speaker 1: fourth quarter in the series. Fourth quarter scoring margin being 105-69.
[2:06:05] Speaker 1: About nine points a quarter in the fourth.
[2:06:11] Speaker 2: So J.J.
[2:06:11] Speaker 1: Redick obviously drew some criticism for his decision to not
[2:06:13] Speaker 1: sub in the second half. First time a coach has
[2:06:16] Speaker 1: done that in the playoffs in at least the last
[2:06:18] Speaker 1: 25 years. Redick was asked about the decision to not
[2:06:20] Speaker 1: sub at all, and this was his response.
[2:06:24] Speaker 10: Not a planned thing to play five guys an entire
[2:06:27] Speaker 10: second half. Asked him at the beginning of the fourth quarter,
[2:06:30] Speaker 10: told him we had two extra timeouts. You know, if
[2:06:33] Speaker 10: you need a sub, let us know. Those guys gave
[2:06:36] Speaker 10: a lot.
[2:06:39] Speaker 1: Those guys gave a lot. LeBron didn't score in the
[2:06:41] Speaker 1: fourth quarter, as I mentioned. Luka was 1-for-6 from the field,
[2:06:43] Speaker 1: 0-for-2 from three, but did go 5-for-5 from the line.
[2:06:46] Speaker 1: Austin Reeves was 2-for-7 from three in the fourth quarter.
[2:06:49] Speaker 1: That's your big three right there.
[2:06:51] Speaker 2: Austin Reeves and the fire truck still managed to play
[2:06:53] Speaker 2: 35 minutes. All right?
[2:06:56] Speaker 4: That's a normal game. 35 minutes is a normal game, right?
[2:07:01] Speaker 4: Had he not been fire truck, he would have been
[2:07:03] Speaker 4: 45-46 too.
[2:07:03] Speaker 2: Facts. Facts. Doran Smith would have been over there not
[2:07:10] Speaker 2: doing nothing. Jackson Hayes, I think, only played four minutes
[2:07:12] Speaker 2: in the game. But congratulations, J.J.
[2:07:16] Speaker 1: Riddick.
[2:07:16] Speaker 2: You allowed yourself. Had a lob in that time. J.J.
[2:07:19] Speaker 5: Riddick has allowed himself to reap the benefits of being
[2:07:23] Speaker 5: a hypocrite. Remember that time he criticized Doc Rivers when
[2:07:27] Speaker 5: he was working for ESPN?
[2:07:28] Speaker 2: I do remember.
[2:07:29] Speaker 5: Talking about how Doc doesn't switch up his lineups and
[2:07:33] Speaker 5: all this shit, and he's a. Now he the coach
[2:07:37] Speaker 5: looking like Doc up there.
[2:07:38] Speaker 2: Stressed out. Doc look like Doc right now. No, I'm not.
[2:07:41] Speaker 5: He don't look like Doc. He look like the guy
[2:07:43] Speaker 5: who was criticizing Doc. Now he's sitting in Doc's seat
[2:07:46] Speaker 5: being criticized. Because he look like he stressed out.
[2:07:49] Speaker 2: He look like he ain't confident that he going to
[2:07:52] Speaker 2: be there for the next three years. Oh, he confident.
[2:07:55] Speaker 2: He confident. That man sweating. Ain't nobody fighting. You must
[2:07:58] Speaker 2: don't know. It just... It's two years. Sometimes you be
[2:08:01] Speaker 2: in situations where you get.
[2:08:03] Speaker 5: First round exit this year. Mind the game podcast. It
[2:08:07] Speaker 5: ain't reflecting. It ain't reflecting. You was just blazing. You
[2:08:11] Speaker 5: was just blazing.
[2:08:12] Speaker 2: You was just blazing. You ain't ran none of them sets.
[2:08:16] Speaker 2: Sometimes you can't take them out. You ain't ran none
[2:08:19] Speaker 2: of them sets. You was blazing.
[2:08:20] Speaker 5: I would run this if I was Darwin.
[2:08:24] Speaker 2: They was winning though. I'm running this. You winning.
[2:08:29] Speaker 3: You went up until the last minute. Full of shit, man.
[2:08:32] Speaker 3: Full of shit. That's what the hell y'all get.
[2:08:35] Speaker 1: Any coach that asks a player, hey, do you want
[2:08:36] Speaker 1: to stay in the game or come out in that moment?
[2:08:38] Speaker 2: A player's going to say, I want to stay in
[2:08:40] Speaker 2: the game. You can ask a six-year-old that shit. They
[2:08:43] Speaker 2: do want to step out. They do. Coach, I got
[2:08:46] Speaker 2: to come out. Coach, coach, coach. Is it me this time? No,
[2:08:50] Speaker 2: it's automatic sub. Automatic.
[2:08:52] Speaker 5: I got 10 of y'all. They making me put y'all
[2:08:55] Speaker 5: in every five minutes.
[2:08:56] Speaker 2: Just 10 of y'all. The best is when a couple
[2:08:58] Speaker 2: kids don't show up. Absolutely, yeah. You get to play more.
[2:09:01] Speaker 2: So this just like, right?
[2:09:02] Speaker 5: So, you ask any age group of basketball player, any athlete,
[2:09:06] Speaker 5: we don't want to come out.
[2:09:07] Speaker 2: Thank you. Who want to come out? But you got
[2:09:09] Speaker 2: to afford it. Listen, so you can't find two minutes? No. Why?
[2:09:13] Speaker 2: You up 10. People just talking about New York.
[2:09:15] Speaker 3: They complaining about getting subbed out.
[2:09:19] Speaker 2: Of course they want to come out. Yeah, they want
[2:09:21] Speaker 2: to come out the game. People just talking about it.
[2:09:22] Speaker 2: When you just said, I wish I had that. During
[2:09:24] Speaker 2: the regular season? Because you're playing hard while you're out there, bro.
[2:09:27] Speaker 2: I don't want to average 43. You're playing hard while
[2:09:29] Speaker 2: you're out there. I don't want to average 43 minutes
[2:09:30] Speaker 2: during the regular season. There's no way you can play
[2:09:32] Speaker 2: the whole second half and not play hard.
[2:09:34] Speaker 5: I don't want to average 43 during the regular season.
[2:09:36] Speaker 2: You know that. So how many do you want to
[2:09:38] Speaker 2: average in the playoffs? During the regular season? In the playoffs. 43.
[2:09:44] Speaker 2: Not in the regular season. I don't want to average
[2:09:46] Speaker 2: in the regular season. I play 34. I average like 34,
[2:09:49] Speaker 2: 35 minutes a night. So can you? The question is,
[2:09:51] Speaker 2: can you? That's the question. Are you in shape, too?
[2:09:55] Speaker 2: I played 55 in a game before, shit like that.
[2:10:00] Speaker 2: You love to play them minutes. You love to play
[2:10:01] Speaker 2: them minutes.
[2:10:02] Speaker 5: Can we actually do it and be ready for those
[2:10:04] Speaker 5: minutes if you can prepare for those minutes?
[2:10:06] Speaker 2: You got to prepare for that shit. They ain't did
[2:10:08] Speaker 2: it all year. They ain't did it all year.
[2:10:11] Speaker 3: Only reason it's bad with LeBron because you know he's
[2:10:15] Speaker 3: going to take some plays off and their plays, they.
[2:10:17] Speaker 2: Might screw on that. You know he's going to take
[2:10:20] Speaker 2: some plays off? Just because you're 40, anybody at this
[2:10:23] Speaker 2: age can't... What about Luka?
[2:10:26] Speaker 5: What's Luka's excuse? 26 years old? You can't take no
[2:10:29] Speaker 5: plays off. He take more off than anybody.
[2:10:33] Speaker 3: But with all that being said, he was up, though.
[2:10:36] Speaker 3: That's the, he was up 10.
[2:10:38] Speaker 2: Right. So, sub. Yes.
[2:10:40] Speaker 1: 46 minutes season high for Luka in that game.
[2:10:43] Speaker 2: Sub. And guess what? You're down now.
[2:10:46] Speaker 5: There's timeouts coming. You can buy time. Them two minutes
[2:10:49] Speaker 5: can turn into this. You know the timeout's coming because
[2:10:52] Speaker 5: he's telling you.
[2:10:53] Speaker 2: Yes. TV timeout coming right now, J.J. Take him out.
[2:10:56] Speaker 2: Can I see that turnover? The half-court one? With LeBron?
[2:11:00] Speaker 2: I want to see. Did it go off somebody's foot
[2:11:02] Speaker 2: or bounce? Bad pass. Bad pass. Bad pass. Fuck. He
[2:11:06] Speaker 2: didn't get open. He looked tired. He looked like a
[2:11:08] Speaker 2: tired pass. He didn't get open. This is what... That's
[2:11:11] Speaker 2: an excuse. He didn't get open. Did it go off
[2:11:14] Speaker 2: somebody's foot? No, Nick, it's a bad pass. And LeBron
[2:11:17] Speaker 2: admitted he said it was a bad pass. It's a
[2:11:18] Speaker 2: bad pass, man. He admitted that? He did. Okay. He's accountable.
[2:11:22] Speaker 2: It's a bad pass. He admitted it. It's a bad pass.
[2:11:25] Speaker 2: Maybe it went off somebody's foot. It probably did. You
[2:11:28] Speaker 2: never know. LeBron, ethical hooper. He didn't take a look
[2:11:30] Speaker 2: at it. And a part of the ball. Normally. We
[2:11:33] Speaker 2: tell the six-year-olds that. If you hit it, it's a
[2:11:35] Speaker 2: part of the ball. There you say go.
[2:11:36] Speaker 1: When you take a look at it. My six-year-old said, Dad, hey,
[2:11:39] Speaker 1: it's a part of the ball, right? How could that
[2:11:40] Speaker 1: possibly be a part.
[2:11:41] Speaker 2: Of the ball? Your six-year-old said that. Yeah, it is.
[2:11:43] Speaker 2: All right, this is what we're doing in the world.
[2:11:46] Speaker 2: I thought I was. Hey, it is a part of
[2:11:47] Speaker 2: the ball. This is what I've been taught. Hey, it's
[2:11:50] Speaker 2: a part of the ball. If you get it. Sometimes.
[2:11:53] Speaker 2: If you the defense to hand a part of the ball,
[2:11:55] Speaker 2: if the offense, that's a foul, right, Dad? If he
[2:11:58] Speaker 2: hit my hand, right, Dad? Hey, Dad, if I shoot
[2:12:01] Speaker 2: the ball and he hit my hand, that's a foul, right? Absolutely.
[2:12:05] Speaker 2: You have to tell him no, son. No, son. He's
[2:12:09] Speaker 2: allowed to hit your hand. If you got the ball
[2:12:11] Speaker 2: in your hand, he can hit you. Sportsmanship commercial. No,
[2:12:14] Speaker 2: he hit my hand. It was good.
[2:12:16] Speaker 5: So, Dad, we can take an extra step after we
[2:12:19] Speaker 5: have our pivot foot established?
[2:12:21] Speaker 2: We can change it? To another foot and it's not
[2:12:24] Speaker 2: a travel? It's a gather, son. It's a gather step.
[2:12:28] Speaker 2: That's weird. I thought you had to always keep your
[2:12:31] Speaker 2: pivot foot down. But let's talk about him, man. We
[2:12:34] Speaker 2: got to give him his love.
[2:12:36] Speaker 1: Having 30 points, eight rebounds, six assists, 45-43, 83 shooting splits.
[2:12:41] Speaker 1: Got it done on both sides of the ball. Easily
[2:12:43] Speaker 1: been the best player in the season. In the series,
[2:12:45] Speaker 1: excuse me. And now on the precipice of potentially eliminating
[2:12:49] Speaker 1: the Lakers. So in the last two playoffs, swept KD,
[2:12:52] Speaker 1: beat Joker in seven. Now has a chance to beat LeBron.
[2:12:56] Speaker 1: Phoenix 2.0, man.
[2:12:59] Speaker 2: Darwin, yeah.
[2:13:00] Speaker 3: Phoenix 2.0. Last year was KD and.
[2:13:06] Speaker 2: Fuck, man. Thank you.
[2:13:07] Speaker 1: You can see our staff not rolling.
[2:13:10] Speaker 2: We all fucked up. You needed that, huh? Yeah, I
[2:13:12] Speaker 2: needed that.
[2:13:13] Speaker 1: Somebody had something slapped out of their hand, did not
[2:13:14] Speaker 1: call for a foul. No call.
[2:13:19] Speaker 3: For me, because I like, both teams I don't want
[2:13:23] Speaker 3: to see lose just because Ant-Man is like one of
[2:13:26] Speaker 3: my favorite players.
[2:13:28] Speaker 2: Lakers is obviously my team. So this was a tough
[2:13:32] Speaker 2: series for me anyway, you know.
[2:13:35] Speaker 1: It's okay, Swag. It's time for Dodger Baseball. Don't worry,
[2:13:38] Speaker 1: we got Shohei, Mookie Best, Freddie Freeman, Andy Pahe.
[2:13:43] Speaker 2: Way to deflect, Josiah. We still got Tatum. We're talking
[2:13:48] Speaker 2: about the Lakers now. It's good you want to talk
[2:13:52] Speaker 2: about the Dodgers, but we're talking about the Lakers right now.
[2:13:55] Speaker 2: We're talking about the current state of this 3-1 deficit
[2:13:59] Speaker 2: that the Los Angeles Lakers are in. How they're going
[2:14:01] Speaker 2: to try to come out of this.
[2:14:03] Speaker 3: Shannon, Shannon Fry, LeBron tried, Luka died.
[2:14:08] Speaker 2: Luka died. Wolves in fire. Shannon Fry. Luka tried. Shannon
[2:14:20] Speaker 2: going down. Wolves in fire. I hate you. In the
[2:14:28] Speaker 2: chat says, sufficient Lakers talk for this afternoon. I would
[2:14:32] Speaker 2: never like you as a person, ever in life. I
[2:14:35] Speaker 2: would never like you. So we got to talk about.
[2:14:38] Speaker 2: What's wrong with you? Talk about one more thing.
[2:14:41] Speaker 3: That's what made me think of Shannon Fry.
[2:14:45] Speaker 2: Shannon Fry.
[2:14:47] Speaker 1: We got to talk one more thing in the world
[2:14:48] Speaker 1: of sports. We're going to shift over to football. NFL
[2:14:52] Speaker 1: draft was last week. Biggest story was Shador Sanders. Sanders
[2:14:55] Speaker 1: was projected to be a first round at Potential. Top
[2:14:57] Speaker 1: 10 picks by many analysts. We only got 10 minutes left.
[2:15:00] Speaker 1: We got 10 minutes left. Where it go, Joe? Where
[2:15:03] Speaker 1: it go, Joe?
[2:15:04] Speaker 2: Chad said they wanted to hear a little football today. Oh,
[2:15:06] Speaker 2: have mercy. NFL draft. Yeah, man.
[2:15:09] Speaker 1: Like you said, NFL numbers. Important topic. We are talking football.
[2:15:13] Speaker 1: Speaking of hating.
[2:15:15] Speaker 2: Right? Speaking of hating.
[2:15:17] Speaker 1: So, Sanders projected to be a first round and potential
[2:15:19] Speaker 1: top 10 pick by many analysts went undrafted after the
[2:15:21] Speaker 1: first two days, slipping all the way to the fifth
[2:15:23] Speaker 1: round as the Browns traded up to grab him with
[2:15:25] Speaker 1: the 144th after picking Oregon quarterback Dylan Gabriel in the
[2:15:31] Speaker 1: third round, so drafted two quarterbacks in the draft. So
[2:15:34] Speaker 1: as Shador and the rest of the Sanders family watched
[2:15:37] Speaker 1: the disappointment during the first round, Shador's big brother Shiloh
[2:15:40] Speaker 1: did what big brothers do, tried to lift his spirits.
[2:15:44] Speaker 2: Shiloh went undrafted, ended up signing with the Buccaneers.
[2:15:47] Speaker 7: So he was very accurate in.
[2:15:49] Speaker 2: His assessment of how they were doing. The Sanders family.
[2:16:10] Speaker 1: So after the first round came and went, with Shador
[2:16:14] Speaker 1: not getting picked, he had this message at his draft party.
[2:16:18] Speaker 7: We all didn't expect this, of course, but I feel
[2:16:21] Speaker 7: like with God, anything possible, everything possible. I don't feel
[2:16:25] Speaker 7: like this happened, you know, for no reason. All this is,
[2:16:29] Speaker 7: is of course, fuel to the fire. And under no circumstance,
[2:16:33] Speaker 7: we all know this isn't going to happen. But we
[2:16:36] Speaker 7: understand we're on the bigger and better things. Tomorrow's the day.
[2:16:40] Speaker 7: We're going to be happy regardless.
[2:16:42] Speaker 2: That's a dare.
[2:16:46] Speaker 1: Unfortunately, tomorrow was not the day, as he went undrafted
[2:16:50] Speaker 1: in the second and third rounds. It took all the
[2:16:52] Speaker 1: way to day three when his moment finally came with
[2:16:55] Speaker 1: the Browns ending his draft nightmare.
[2:16:57] Speaker 2: We're going to Browns tonight. Be grateful. This is a blessing, man.
[2:17:20] Speaker 2: Shout out to Cleveland. Don't show what Cleveland looks like.
[2:17:23] Speaker 2: I know you're about to. We don't have a video
[2:17:26] Speaker 2: of what Cleveland looks like. No, they did. You see it?
[2:17:30] Speaker 2: People trying to make fun of him. I didn't like it. Oh,
[2:17:32] Speaker 2: the draft room? Yeah, yeah. Like, that's fucked up, bro.
[2:17:37] Speaker 3: Like, the prank call and shit.
[2:17:39] Speaker 1: We're trying to keep it. We have some negative things
[2:17:41] Speaker 1: to address shortly. We want to keep it somewhat positive
[2:17:43] Speaker 1: for Shador. Did Shador get done dirty in the 2025
[2:17:45] Speaker 1: NFL draft? Slipped all the way to the fifth round.
[2:17:48] Speaker 1: Day three. Mel Kiper crashed out, called out the entire league.
[2:17:55] Speaker 1: There's only a few teams that were looking for quarterbacks,
[2:17:57] Speaker 1: but nonetheless.
[2:18:00] Speaker 4: Personally, yeah, we want to say yes. Because we watched him, bro.
[2:18:04] Speaker 4: We watched the whole from Jackson... State, Colorado transition and
[2:18:10] Speaker 4: the whole thing, right? We watched it all, right? It's
[2:18:13] Speaker 4: a great story. Family success. Deion giving different light to
[2:18:19] Speaker 4: college football.
[2:18:21] Speaker 2: Great.
[2:18:23] Speaker 4: Very unexpected in a lot of eyes, man. But as
[2:18:28] Speaker 4: people were.
[2:18:30] Speaker 2: Herwin Allen said, I think it was....
[2:18:37] Speaker 4: Riddick said, that you can play football, that you can
[2:18:41] Speaker 4: play quarterback, you just ain't going to play it for us.
[2:18:44] Speaker 2: So that's what they proved. Sending messages.
[2:18:54] Speaker 4: It's unfortunate that people allow their personal thoughts and feelings
[2:19:04] Speaker 4: into these type of situations. You can think he's arrogant.
[2:19:11] Speaker 4: You can think he's cocky. You can think all these
[2:19:13] Speaker 4: things about him. But what athlete and what player that's
[2:19:18] Speaker 4: trying to be successful is not. So if you show
[2:19:21] Speaker 4: me one that isn't, I'm going to show you one
[2:19:24] Speaker 4: that's not successful. If you don't believe in this ability,
[2:19:28] Speaker 4: if he's not willing to tell you I'm this good
[2:19:29] Speaker 4: or I can be this or you want to win,
[2:19:31] Speaker 4: you pick me. If he's not telling you these things,
[2:19:34] Speaker 4: then he's not the guy for you. I'm pretty sure
[2:19:37] Speaker 4: if you ask all those other guys those same questions,
[2:19:39] Speaker 4: they gave you the same answers.
[2:19:41] Speaker 2: It's just that his.
[2:19:42] Speaker 4: Last name is Sanders and you've seen him plastered everywhere
[2:19:45] Speaker 4: for the last two years. It's very unfortunate, like I said,
[2:19:52] Speaker 4: people let their personal feelings and thoughts get in the
[2:19:54] Speaker 4: way of this kid's moment. And it's sad, but you
[2:20:02] Speaker 4: got to praise the moment that he had. still an
[2:20:05] Speaker 4: NFL player, we know that now, but wishing nothing but
[2:20:09] Speaker 4: success moving forward.
[2:20:13] Speaker 2: Yeah, so.
[2:20:16] Speaker 3: Yeah, it was tough because the person you work out
[2:20:19] Speaker 3: with go first, another friend of yours go second, and
[2:20:26] Speaker 3: then you got to wait until the third day just
[2:20:30] Speaker 3: because people think you cocky or I don't know, they
[2:20:34] Speaker 3: don't like They don't want your dad all in the.
[2:20:36] Speaker 2: So.
[2:20:37] Speaker 1: Reports that, and this is just reports that some of
[2:20:39] Speaker 1: the interviews didn't go as well as expected. That's what
[2:20:41] Speaker 1: was the kind of rumblings around. But it did feel like.
[2:20:45] Speaker 4: Because I didn't answer your question the way you wanted
[2:20:47] Speaker 4: me to answer it.
[2:20:47] Speaker 2: You were expecting me to answer it. That's what that is.
[2:20:50] Speaker 2: You act the way I want you to act, boy. Yes.
[2:20:54] Speaker 1: All right.
[2:20:55] Speaker 5: So if I don't like your answer, guess what you're
[2:20:57] Speaker 5: not going to do? You're not going to get hired. See,
[2:21:00] Speaker 5: you missed the point, man. Like, Cam Ward. Worked out
[2:21:05] Speaker 5: with Shador Sanders.
[2:21:07] Speaker 2: There was a blaring difference in the workouts. One was
[2:21:12] Speaker 2: more cocky. It had nothing to do with talent. What
[2:21:17] Speaker 2: was it?
[2:21:17] Speaker 5: It had everything to do with what are you. Cam said,
[2:21:21] Speaker 5: I'm a football player. Shador said, I'm a lifestyle.
[2:21:26] Speaker 3: No, he didn't. He can't do that. So they friends
[2:21:33] Speaker 3: talking trash.
[2:21:34] Speaker 5: I'm saying, listen, when you look me up at the
[2:21:36] Speaker 5: end of my life is going to say football player.
[2:21:41] Speaker 5: Go back and watch the movie Draft Day. They tell
[2:21:43] Speaker 5: you about drafting the right guy. And it's not that
[2:21:47] Speaker 5: he don't got talent. It's that when you have something
[2:21:50] Speaker 5: in front of your talent, that's stopping us from seeing
[2:21:52] Speaker 5: what you could truly do. You got to go in
[2:21:55] Speaker 5: there and just get it and go in there and
[2:21:56] Speaker 5: just take it. It ain't never about where you draft it.
[2:21:58] Speaker 5: It's always about what you do once you get there.
[2:22:01] Speaker 3: Well, honestly, I see a Jalen Hurts situation for him
[2:22:05] Speaker 3: in Cleveland, so it's a blessing.
[2:22:07] Speaker 2: You still got a massage man over there that old
[2:22:10] Speaker 2: massage man going to do. That guy that drafted me.
[2:22:15] Speaker 2: Whoever that dude was, he was the GM for the
[2:22:18] Speaker 2: Cleveland Browns? Yep.
[2:22:20] Speaker 5: He's seen the camera. He's looking at the camera. Look
[2:22:23] Speaker 5: at him as they draft Shador. So they've seen their
[2:22:27] Speaker 5: own body language in real time. They've seen it. Like
[2:22:32] Speaker 5: we said, they already took a quarterback the third round.
[2:22:34] Speaker 5: Deshaun Watson's status for next season, recovered from injury, uncertain.
[2:22:38] Speaker 5: The Browns owner already said that they missed on that
[2:22:42] Speaker 5: They said a lot of shit to cover up the
[2:22:45] Speaker 5: energy behind taking Shador. Yeah, we were tired and we
[2:22:50] Speaker 5: were all this, but it just looked like it looked bad.
[2:22:54] Speaker 5: It didn't look like y'all wanted him. Like he's not
[2:22:58] Speaker 5: good enough to play.
[2:22:59] Speaker 2: Is that more about Deion? I think it is.
[2:23:04] Speaker 4: We all know he can play the position, man. The
[2:23:07] Speaker 4: line is going to be better in the NFL, so...
[2:23:10] Speaker 4: than the line that he had at Colorado. He has
[2:23:14] Speaker 4: the opportunity to go out there and fight for a
[2:23:16] Speaker 4: job and beat out the guy who they picked in
[2:23:18] Speaker 4: the third round, which a lot of people think he's
[2:23:21] Speaker 4: a better quarterback than him. And it's on him to
[2:23:25] Speaker 4: go out and continue. Like he said, just add fuel
[2:23:27] Speaker 4: to the fire. You got to win your players. As
[2:23:30] Speaker 4: a quarterback, you got to win your players.
[2:23:32] Speaker 2: You do not want to be Willie Beeman on any
[2:23:35] Speaker 2: given Sunday going out there thinking that the line posted
[2:23:39] Speaker 2: work for you. Nah.
[2:23:41] Speaker 5: You got to get your team around you so they
[2:23:43] Speaker 5: believe you're a great leader.
[2:23:45] Speaker 2: You're going to take us where we're supposed to go.
[2:23:47] Speaker 2: He don't seem like you're a bad teammate. No, I don't.
[2:23:50] Speaker 5: But he's not showing the opposite side to give everybody
[2:23:53] Speaker 5: that confidence.
[2:23:54] Speaker 2: He don't like to talk. Yeah. He let his dad
[2:23:57] Speaker 2: talk for him. You know what I'm saying?
[2:23:59] Speaker 5: And that's the bad side because his dad has people
[2:24:02] Speaker 5: who love him and he has people who hate him.
[2:24:04] Speaker 2: I think that's why they didn't draft him. They're just
[2:24:07] Speaker 2: coming with his dad. Man, that man is good. Boy,
[2:24:09] Speaker 2: there's a great Great upbringing, man. Yeah. Like, God-fearing family. Like, man,
[2:24:15] Speaker 2: let's go. I feel like GMs are scared. Dion might
[2:24:17] Speaker 2: come in and take their job. Coaches are scared. They
[2:24:20] Speaker 2: draft them. Dion going to take their job? I don't know.
[2:24:22] Speaker 5: Well, you just got to accept that fate has placed
[2:24:25] Speaker 5: you here because this is where you're supposed to be.
[2:24:27] Speaker 2: That's why I like this. I love this.
[2:24:29] Speaker 5: Yeah, the expectations of, oh, I'm supposed to go here.
[2:24:31] Speaker 5: It's like, nah, bro. We put you exactly where you are.
[2:24:35] Speaker 5: You can't say that God made a mistake and this
[2:24:37] Speaker 5: ain't what God wanted.
[2:24:39] Speaker 2: Man, you here... Because you got work to do now.
[2:24:42] Speaker 2: He looked very happy to be selected. He should because
[2:24:45] Speaker 2: he's in. You actually got in. Go work now. Because
[2:24:50] Speaker 2: it's hard to go and draft as a quarterback and
[2:24:51] Speaker 2: get a job. Great position.
[2:24:54] Speaker 4: Because like I said, the main guy there, they can't
[2:24:55] Speaker 4: depend on. The main guy got a whole lot of
[2:24:58] Speaker 4: money and they can't depend on him.
[2:25:00] Speaker 2: They got Joe Flacco, Kenny Pickett, Duncan from Ohio State.
[2:25:04] Speaker 4: There's opportunity there for you to go out and make
[2:25:06] Speaker 4: a name for yourself and play and become something and
[2:25:10] Speaker 4: wishing nothing but the best.
[2:25:12] Speaker 2: But you got teams like the Steelers too, though. Steelers
[2:25:15] Speaker 2: passed on you. I don't got a quarterback yet.
[2:25:18] Speaker 11: But they just left, what, Justin Fields? They think they
[2:25:22] Speaker 11: got the opportunity to go out and get the money.
[2:25:24] Speaker 11: They drafted a quarterback. Other teams pick quarterbacks ahead of Shador.
[2:25:28] Speaker 1: But let's talk about another moment that happened to Shador
[2:25:30] Speaker 1: as he waited to be drafted during the first round.
[2:25:33] Speaker 1: He was the victim of a diabolical prank with someone
[2:25:35] Speaker 1: calling his personal phone and doing this.
[2:25:39] Speaker 2: Say that one more time for me. This is Mickey
[2:25:42] Speaker 2: Loomis here, GM of the paint. How you doing? Good.
[2:25:46] Speaker 1: How are you, man?
[2:25:47] Speaker 8: Good.
[2:25:48] Speaker 2: Been waiting on you. Yeah, we have. It's been a
[2:25:51] Speaker 2: long wait, man. No, for sure. We're going to take
[2:25:54] Speaker 2: you with our next beat right here, man. Yes, sir.
[2:25:56] Speaker 2: Let's be legendary. All right, but you're going to have
[2:26:00] Speaker 2: to wait a little bit longer, man. Okay. Sorry about that.
[2:26:03] Speaker 2: You're going to have to wait a little bit longer, man.
[2:26:05] Speaker 2: Sorry about that.
[2:26:05] Speaker 1: So a video was later released of the caller on
[2:26:07] Speaker 1: the other end with two Ole Miss students identifying themselves
[2:26:11] Speaker 1: as the culprits. After some investigation was discovered, one of
[2:26:14] Speaker 1: the men in the video was Jax Obrich, a member
[2:26:16] Speaker 1: of the Ole Miss football team who was the son
[2:26:17] Speaker 1: of Falcons defensive coordinator Jeff Obrich.
[2:26:19] Speaker 2: Wait, what?
[2:26:21] Speaker 1: So Falcons released a statement saying the younger Obrich gained
[2:26:24] Speaker 1: access to his father's iPad, which had Shador's personal phone
[2:26:27] Speaker 1: number on it. Shador got that phone just for the draft.
[2:26:29] Speaker 1: NFL personnel had it. Dad had it on the iPad.
[2:26:32] Speaker 1: I think son went home to visit it. Got the number,
[2:26:35] Speaker 1: leaked it, provided it to his buddy who made the
[2:26:39] Speaker 1: call as he sat nearby Kiki. There's another video of
[2:26:41] Speaker 1: those two. But Jackson Ulbricht later apologized for his actions.
[2:26:44] Speaker 1: Falcon said there would be no discipline for Jeff Ulbricht,
[2:26:46] Speaker 1: allowing his iPad to be compromised, Shadur's number to be leaked.
[2:26:50] Speaker 1: But that's just, I mean, you look at that.
[2:26:53] Speaker 2: And there's more than that. Yeah, he gone. He gone. Yeah.
[2:26:57] Speaker 2: That's a fade on site situation. Oh, man. He said
[2:27:02] Speaker 2: Ole Miss. Right. They played Colorado. What? I don't think so,
[2:27:07] Speaker 2: but Ole Miss quarterback Jackson Dart taken in the first round. Ah.
[2:27:12] Speaker 1: But got the number a week prior. He said iPad
[2:27:14] Speaker 1: was out. Took the number. Went back.
[2:27:16] Speaker 2: So they got him, Gabriel, and Shador.
[2:27:20] Speaker 1: No, so the Giants drafted Jackson Dart in the first round.
[2:27:22] Speaker 1: That was kind of Shador's last hope to get picked in.
[2:27:24] Speaker 2: The first round. So he did that to rub it in. Ah.
[2:27:27] Speaker 2: Ole Miss quarterback.
[2:27:28] Speaker 11: Ah.
[2:27:29] Speaker 1: But players made that call to Shador, making him think
[2:27:32] Speaker 1: that they were the Saints on the clock.
[2:27:34] Speaker 2: Hell of a prank. Hell of a prank. Hell of
[2:27:36] Speaker 2: a prank. Inself, man. talk about diabolical pranks. I left
[2:27:42] Speaker 2: my iPad open. Fuck. Here's the number right here. Son,
[2:27:46] Speaker 2: I don't see shit. Go ahead. I'm going to talk
[2:27:50] Speaker 2: your trash now. That's a hell of a prank, boy. Shit.
[2:27:57] Speaker 2: What type of shit get your ass whooped? I'm just
[2:27:59] Speaker 2: going to be honest. What type of shit might get
[2:28:00] Speaker 2: you whooped? Man. But you know, white people prank. They
[2:28:05] Speaker 2: do some shit. Nah, that ain't no prank. You don't
[2:28:07] Speaker 2: do me like that.
[2:28:08] Speaker 5: They pour dishwasher soap while you're sleeping down your mouth.
[2:28:12] Speaker 2: You don't do no human being like that. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
[2:28:14] Speaker 2: That's crazy. What the fuck? Am I peeing on you
[2:28:16] Speaker 2: while you're asleep? Wake up and high five you. Hey, man.
[2:28:21] Speaker 2: Don't go to sleep. What? Tattooing? Yeah, a whole tattoo
[2:28:26] Speaker 2: on your face type shit. Oh, man. Man, they don't care.
[2:28:30] Speaker 2: They still laughing. Still giggling, but I did apologize, said
[2:28:34] Speaker 2: it was a mistake.
[2:28:36] Speaker 1: But everything Shador's been through, we touched on this lightly,
[2:28:38] Speaker 1: but everything he's been through now, a humbling moment to
[2:28:41] Speaker 1: get selected 144 by the Browns, still has his chance
[2:28:43] Speaker 1: now to show what he can do in the NFL,
[2:28:46] Speaker 1: albeit a lot of bread left on the table by
[2:28:49] Speaker 1: not getting selected first, second round, as he was anticipated.
[2:28:52] Speaker 1: So if you were Shador, how would you approach it?
[2:28:53] Speaker 1: your rookie season in the NFL through this draft experience?
[2:28:57] Speaker 2: Go on, boy. Continue to work, man.
[2:29:00] Speaker 4: Continue to work. That's all he can do. There's nothing.
[2:29:04] Speaker 4: Can't look back. Can't get redrafted.
[2:29:06] Speaker 2: It is what it is. Your fifth round pick. Go
[2:29:12] Speaker 2: make the best of it, man. I guess continue to work.
[2:29:14] Speaker 2: There's opportunity there. Go beat out the guy they picked
[2:29:17] Speaker 2: in the third round. Show them that you're better than him.
[2:29:19] Speaker 2: Show them that it's not even close. All right? Where did, uh... Like,
[2:29:25] Speaker 2: his quotes should be legendary. Like, everything is legendary, right?
[2:29:28] Speaker 2: Where did Lamar Jackson get drafted? 32. The first round?
[2:29:32] Speaker 2: Last pick in the first round. Yeah. He was disappointed,
[2:29:35] Speaker 2: wasn't he? Yeah.
[2:29:41] Speaker 5: Ammunition, motivation. Lamar Jackson got overlooked, and he's been the
[2:29:47] Speaker 5: MVP how many times? True time MVP. And then when
[2:29:52] Speaker 5: he got over the... Before he got drafted, he didn't
[2:29:56] Speaker 5: put on no show. After he got drafted, he ain't
[2:30:01] Speaker 5: put on no show. He just went and got that
[2:30:03] Speaker 5: shit done.
[2:30:05] Speaker 2: They go get it done. Even Tom Brady. Tom Brady.
[2:30:08] Speaker 2: Tom Brady. Man, I ain't tripping. 199th pick.
[2:30:10] Speaker 5: Man, I ain't tripping. Didn't come in tripping. Didn't leave
[2:30:13] Speaker 5: out tripping. I got to go put the work in
[2:30:15] Speaker 5: and prove it.
[2:30:15] Speaker 2: It's a lot of work, man. You got the black parties,
[2:30:17] Speaker 2: the gentlemen. Go prove it. Go get them. Go tell them, man,
[2:30:21] Speaker 2: you made a mistake. And do it gracefully. You don't
[2:30:23] Speaker 2: got to be mad and, ah, you made a mistake. Nah, hey,
[2:30:28] Speaker 2: you made a mistake, and it's okay. No, they humbled
[2:30:29] Speaker 2: him already. Yeah. They humbled him. Yeah. That's crazy.
[2:30:40] Speaker 4: If that's what they thought of him before, if they
[2:30:43] Speaker 4: thought he was cocky and arrogant and all those things
[2:30:45] Speaker 4: and those meetings and all that, if that's the message
[2:30:48] Speaker 4: that they were trying to relay, I'm pretty sure it
[2:30:52] Speaker 4: hit home.
[2:30:53] Speaker 2: We can't control you in our own business. It doesn't
[2:30:55] Speaker 2: make sense for us.
[2:30:56] Speaker 5: You can come in and change our rules because of
[2:30:59] Speaker 5: your fame, your wealth.
[2:31:02] Speaker 2: And even your ability.
[2:31:04] Speaker 5: You good enough to come in and be like, yes,
[2:31:06] Speaker 5: like Russell Wilson did in Denver. You good enough to
[2:31:09] Speaker 5: come in here and tell us what to do and
[2:31:11] Speaker 5: how to move. How many times are we going to
[2:31:13] Speaker 5: allow players to dictate what they want to do based
[2:31:15] Speaker 5: on what?
[2:31:16] Speaker 2: Johnny Manziel. Ain't that his name? Johnny Manziel. Johnny Manziel.
[2:31:19] Speaker 2: Johnny Football. He did more, right? No, for turning up.
[2:31:24] Speaker 2: What you mean, did more? Like, he was showboating and
[2:31:26] Speaker 2: did everything. No, Baker Mayfield did more. I'm just saying.
[2:31:30] Speaker 2: They both was like, you know. Yeah, Baker was an asshole.
[2:31:35] Speaker 2: For sure.
[2:31:36] Speaker 1: But we will see how it plays out for Jordan.
[2:31:38] Speaker 1: But he won the Heisman. Baker won the Heisman. All right,
[2:31:41] Speaker 1: let's move on to Mostly Fans. Presented by our friends
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[2:31:50] Speaker 1: So somebody in the chat trolling. We have a question
[2:31:53] Speaker 1: from Underdog user LakersDunchick. Who you got in the game tonight?
[2:32:00] Speaker 1: So we have Cavs at Heat, Cavs up 3-0. Rockets
[2:32:03] Speaker 1: or Warriors?
[2:32:03] Speaker 2: Warriors up 2-1. So what's your prediction for the two
[2:32:06] Speaker 2: games tonight? Sweep, Warriors. Sweep, Warriors. Sweep, tie up. Jimmy
[2:32:12] Speaker 2: Butler playing tonight? Jimmy Butler did a walkthrough with the Warriors.
[2:32:15] Speaker 2: I think questionable playing game four. Yeah, I'm going sweep
[2:32:18] Speaker 2: and I'm going... Tied up. Houston, 2-2. Tied up. Swaggy,
[2:32:26] Speaker 2: how about yourself? I'm going Warriors. I'm going to go...
[2:32:33] Speaker 2: Cleveland and the Warriors. Jimmy back too? Nah, I'm going
[2:32:43] Speaker 2: to go two. Rockets. They missed their opportunity. No, no.
[2:32:47] Speaker 2: This is the game where they score now.
[2:32:52] Speaker 3: They hit shots and then next game they're going to
[2:32:55] Speaker 3: be off.
[2:32:56] Speaker 2: I think so.
[2:32:57] Speaker 5: That's how I'm looking at them. They streaky right now.
[2:33:01] Speaker 5: They can't find it. They can't find it. They just
[2:33:03] Speaker 5: going to throw it up there and hope it go in.
[2:33:04] Speaker 2: They blew the opportunity. Probably. But I think Jimmy came back.
[2:33:08] Speaker 2: Jimmy Butler.
[2:33:08] Speaker 5: Jimmy not going to be Jimmy. Jimmy is walking around
[2:33:11] Speaker 5: with a hurt butt. Got that BBL. He can't stretch
[2:33:15] Speaker 5: the way he used to. He can't stretch the way
[2:33:20] Speaker 5: he used to. He's sitting down soft.
[2:33:23] Speaker 2: Boy hit the ground hard as hell. He's sitting down
[2:33:24] Speaker 2: real soft. Nah, he got that, what we call it,
[2:33:27] Speaker 2: that shot.
[2:33:28] Speaker 1: You can't feel shit right now. That was a contusion.
[2:33:31] Speaker 1: Heading into game four. So we got one more question.
[2:33:33] Speaker 2: Back her. Back her. Stop talking about that. That's just
[2:33:37] Speaker 2: a little sound right there. You can't feel shit.
[2:33:41] Speaker 1: So we got a question from Underdog User. Look at me, 59.
[2:33:45] Speaker 1: Who are the best three corner guys since 2000? Best
[2:33:48] Speaker 1: three corner guys since 2000. Swaggy, this is your area
[2:33:51] Speaker 1: of expertise. So you're getting excited. Since 2000.
[2:33:55] Speaker 2: Since the year I learned 2000, the best three corner guys. 2000. Me,
[2:34:05] Speaker 2: of course. You ever look at yourself? So, J.R. in there,
[2:34:14] Speaker 2: of course. Swaggy J.R. Smith. Lou Will. And Lou Will.
[2:34:23] Speaker 1: Shout out your estimation. Best three-corner guy since 2000. I'm
[2:34:25] Speaker 1: going to go J.R., J.R. 's major list.
[2:34:29] Speaker 2: He's got way more chips. I'm going to go Jason Terry. Oh,
[2:34:41] Speaker 2: I forgot about Terry. He's on the board. He's on
[2:34:43] Speaker 2: the board. He's on the mountain. The mountain once more.
[2:34:46] Speaker 2: He's on the board. Jamal Crawford. Jamal Crawford. Jamal Crawford
[2:34:51] Speaker 2: is probably my goal. I forgot. Nobody scored 50 for
[2:34:53] Speaker 2: four different teams. He's the president of it. 50 for
[2:34:55] Speaker 2: four different teams. He's the president. He's the president. Amon
[2:34:58] Speaker 2: Carver is absolutely the GOATs of all GOATs.
[2:35:02] Speaker 5: Should get way more credit of being an actual basketball
[2:35:05] Speaker 5: player who played in our era and everybody act like
[2:35:08] Speaker 5: some shit. He ain't an all-star. He was never an
[2:35:11] Speaker 5: all-star in the corner boy history.
[2:35:13] Speaker 2: He's one of my GOATs. For sure.
[2:35:16] Speaker 1: Top three corner boys since the year 2000. Got to
[2:35:20] Speaker 1: go with Jamal Crawford. He was in my draft.
[2:35:22] Speaker 2: Oh, shit. J.R. Underrated. And I'm going to go with
[2:35:34] Speaker 2: Mo Williams. Mo's playing. Mo can play, man. Mo can play.
[2:35:40] Speaker 2: He's on there. Alabama. All right.
[2:35:44] Speaker 1: Well, appreciate you, gentlemen. As you can see, obviously, we're
[2:35:46] Speaker 1: talking about the top of the show. Gil not here today.
[2:35:49] Speaker 1: At the hospital with Elijah and his son. I went
[2:35:52] Speaker 1: up there to see him. He makes progress.
[2:35:53] Speaker 2: Yeah. He was in good spirits. He seen me and
[2:35:57] Speaker 2: smiling and stuff. It was just tough. It was a
[2:36:01] Speaker 2: tough situation to see him there, but he's up. He
[2:36:04] Speaker 2: was trying to talk a little bit. No broken bones.
[2:36:07] Speaker 2: Everything is good. That's it. He's only at UCLA. He
[2:36:12] Speaker 2: said my bad for being at UCLA.
[2:36:15] Speaker 1: Gil sent me when he first started running an apology
[2:36:19] Speaker 1: to Coach Musk over at USC for being at UCLA.
[2:36:21] Speaker 1: I don't know why. God was just telling you, Elijah.
[2:36:23] Speaker 1: I told him, don't take it easy over here. Where
[2:36:27] Speaker 1: you need to be, but in all sincerity.
[2:36:29] Speaker 2: Absolutely, man. Speed of recovery, Elijah. Absolutely, man. To my
[2:36:33] Speaker 2: mom as well, man.
[2:36:35] Speaker 4: I went through some personal stuff with my mom, but
[2:36:38] Speaker 4: doing better She's going to be all right.
[2:36:41] Speaker 2: She'll fight her. That's why I'm praying for your mom
[2:36:43] Speaker 2: as well. The way I am, I got it from her, man.
[2:36:47] Speaker 2: Speed of recovery.
[2:36:50] Speaker 1: Sending love and light to all. Absolutely. I appreciate you, Jen,
[2:36:54] Speaker 1: for holding it down today. I've seen Gil's absence while
[2:36:56] Speaker 1: he was dealing with what he was dealing with. I
[2:36:57] Speaker 1: appreciate everybody in the chat for being so supportive during
[2:37:01] Speaker 1: these times. I obviously appreciate our whole crew, but this
[2:37:03] Speaker 1: has been another episode of Gil's Arena presented by Underdog.
[2:37:06] Speaker 2: We will see y'all tomorrow.

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