# Greece’s doom loop & why Europe can’t stand up to Trump

An episode of [The Econoclasts](https://invisiblenetwork.ai/podcast/1685475850), 17 Dec 2025, 45 min.

Audio: https://sphinx.acast.com/p/open/s/644d3eb26d7c8a0011cf2a0b/e/6941913f443ad989139d580c/media.mp3

This week, Yanis Varoufakis and Wolfgang Munchau take aim at two prevailing myths: the widespread belief that Greece's recovery is a heartwarming success story—a model for debt-laden nations like Germany and the UK—and the soft centre-left idea that the EU can "go it alone" and challenge the United States politically and economically. Is Greece's success real, or just a financial illusion? And is a meaningful decoupling from a tariff-wielding America possible, or is the dream of a strategically independent Europe dead? Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

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