# 74: Teacher Murdered By Her Own Student

An episode of [Outlore with Eleanor Neale](https://invisiblenetwork.ai/podcast/1682504024), 2 Jul 2024, 41 min.

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For today's case we're dipping into the archive as we look back at the murder of Colleen Ritzer, a teacher from Danvers High School, Massachusetts and the 14 year old student that was seen dragging a large bin around the school following his teacher's disappearance... Trigger Warning: rape, psychosis Resources: https://linktr.ee/usualdisclaimer Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

## Transcript

[0:00] Hello, usual disclaimer listeners.
[0:02] This week we're going to be revisiting a case that I first
[0:05] covered on my YouTube channel back in 2022.
[0:08] Today we're going to delve into the life and murder of Colleen
[0:12] Ritzer, a Massachusetts high school teacher and the 14 year
[0:15] old student who came into suspicion when he was seen
[0:18] dragging a large bin around the school following his teacher's
[0:23] mysterious disappearance. I'll be back with another case
[0:26] for you very soon, but in the meantime, I hope you appreciate
[0:29] this, Bernie. Back through the archive.
[0:34] Miss Ritzer was a 9th grade math teacher at Denver's high school.
[0:38] But on one October evening in 2013, Miss Ritzer failed to
[0:43] return home from work. Later that evening, her
[0:46] brutalised dead body would be found in a woods not far away
[0:50] from the school. And the killer wasn't so far
[0:53] away either. Now, before we get into it, I do
[0:59] just want to give my usual disclaimer that I mean
[1:01] absolutely no disrespect to anyone that I talk about in this
[1:04] video. This video is for educational
[1:06] purposes and everything that I'm about to say is just information
[1:09] that I have found on the Internet and I'm compiling into
[1:12] one video. Just a couple of content
[1:14] warnings before we get into this one.
[1:16] In this case, we will be discussing themes of rape and
[1:19] psychosis. So if either of those are things
[1:21] that you don't want to hear about right now, feel free to
[1:24] click out of this video. I'm sure I'll see you again some
[1:26] other time with a case. But with all that being said,
[1:29] let's get into the case. Colleen Ritzer was a 24 year old
[1:32] high school teacher from Massachusetts.
[1:35] She was born on May 13th, 1989, the first child to Peggy and
[1:39] Thomas Ritzer. She would later get a younger
[1:42] brother named Daniel and a younger sister named Laura.
[1:45] And she was super close with both of them and with both of
[1:47] her parents. She was, she was a really family
[1:50] oriented girl right from being young.
[1:52] She was, she was a homebody. She loved her family and she had
[1:55] a super happy childhood. Growing up.
[1:57] Colleen was very academic. She was very intelligent.
[2:01] She always got good grades, did really well at school.
[2:03] She really enjoyed school as well, which is quite unusual for
[2:07] kids her age. But she liked learning.
[2:09] She loved reading and her dream job when she grew up one day was
[2:13] to become a teacher. Because when she was young, she
[2:16] was so inspired by her teachers. She loved her teachers that she
[2:20] knew that she wanted to be able to do that for other kids.
[2:23] And so she worked really, really hard to get that goal because
[2:26] she knew she needed good grades, kids if she wanted to become a
[2:28] teacher. So she did.
[2:29] She studied really hard, got really good grades, graduated
[2:33] high school and then went off to college.
[2:35] In college she studied maths. Maths was always colleen's
[2:38] subject. She loved it, she was really
[2:40] passionate about it. And when she went to college to
[2:43] study, this was like a really transformative time in her life.
[2:47] I feel like it is for most people that go to uni.
[2:50] After school she moved into the college dorms.
[2:52] She made loads of new friends, picked up some new like hobbies
[2:56] and interests. She was doing new things.
[2:58] She became a little bit of a party girl as most people do
[3:01] when they go to uni. And one thing about Colleen
[3:04] Ritzer, she loved Halloween. She was super, super into it
[3:07] every single year. She always had been ever since
[3:10] she was a kid, she cared about her costume more than most.
[3:13] Every year her mother would help her pick out like the perfect
[3:16] costume or help her make her costumes.
[3:19] And so this year when she went off to college, this was the
[3:22] first year, her first Halloween without her mum, the first
[3:26] Halloween that she would be like doing her own thing.
[3:28] And for her first Halloween away from home, Colleen dressed up a
[3:32] little bit more revealing this year.
[3:34] She wore like a little mini dress, a little brown mini
[3:37] dress. I think she was supposed to be a
[3:38] bear, honestly. It really wouldn't be considered
[3:41] revealing by most people's standards, especially when it
[3:44] comes to Halloween costumes, because they can get, they can
[3:46] get a little bit crazy. But regardless, to Colleen's
[3:49] mother Peggy, it was quite revealing compared to all the
[3:53] other costumes she'd always helped her make and buy all her
[3:56] life. She was now seeing her baby
[3:58] daughter in this like mini dress going out for Halloween and her
[4:02] mum had a sense of humor about it.
[4:03] I love this. She commented on a picture on
[4:05] social media saying Colleen, as they get older, the costumes
[4:08] take on a different look. I just thought that was really
[4:11] funny because like, her mum had watched her Halloween costumes
[4:14] like evolve over the years and now she was away at college.
[4:16] I don't know. Her mum knew that she was having
[4:18] a great time either way. And once Colleen finished
[4:20] university, she was offered her dream job right out of the gate
[4:25] to be a high school maths teacher at Denver's high school
[4:28] in Massachusetts. It was only about a 25 mile
[4:31] journey from where she lived with her parents.
[4:33] So this was kind of ideal. She didn't live too close to the
[4:36] school where she'd be like living near students, but she
[4:40] didn't live too far away that it was a hell of a commute.
[4:42] It just seemed perfect. And she felt so lucky to have
[4:45] been offered her dream job straight away.
[4:47] And so of course, she took it. This also meant that she didn't
[4:50] have to move away from her parents because that was what
[4:53] she was worried about. I mean, she did it for
[4:55] university. She moved away for university,
[4:57] but now that she'd come back home and she was living there,
[5:00] she didn't really want to leave again because she was a
[5:02] homebody. And she loved her family.
[5:04] They were like her closest friends were her family.
[5:06] So yeah, this job meant that she didn't have to move away.
[5:09] It was good pay. It was a good location.
[5:11] Everything about it was perfect. And fun fact about this area,
[5:14] Danvers, where the high school was, where she was offered this
[5:16] job, Danvers is actually Salem. You know Salem from the witch
[5:21] trials. Well, it was renamed to Danvers
[5:24] after all of that to kind of disconnect the area from its
[5:28] like negative history I guess. But yeah, Danvers is Salem.
[5:32] So yeah, Colleen starts her new job at Danvers High School.
[5:36] She's teaching mainly algebra there, which is one of her
[5:39] favorite topics within maths. She was such a maths girl, but
[5:42] specifically algebra. So again, she was over the moon.
[5:46] She settled into this job really, really well, started
[5:48] making friends with other tea. She was getting on really well
[5:51] with her students. In fact, the kids loved her.
[5:54] She was really, really popular in that school.
[5:56] I think probably because she was such a young teacher.
[5:58] The young teachers are always the favourites because they're
[6:01] like a bit more relatable to the kids.
[6:03] You know, she was only like 6 years older than a lot of her
[6:06] students, so she would have conversations with them on a
[6:09] level that they wouldn't be able to have with other teachers.
[6:12] You know, she understood them and they understood her.
[6:14] And she always made it very clear to her students that she
[6:17] was more than just a teacher for them.
[6:19] She was a friend. And if they ever needed to talk
[6:21] about like personal stuff or home stuff, not even just their
[6:25] maths homework, then she was there.
[6:27] She always told them she was available.
[6:29] Her classroom was a no judgement zone.
[6:32] She just wanted everyone to feel like they had someone to talk
[6:35] to. Colleen Ritzer was just such a
[6:37] kind, caring person, exactly the kind of person that you would
[6:40] want as a teacher because she saw her students as people, as
[6:46] complex individuals with home lives.
[6:49] You know, she didn't just see them as test scores and stats.
[6:53] She saw these kids as young, impressionable people that she
[6:56] wanted to make a positive impact on.
[6:58] And Colleen really went above and beyond for her students.
[7:02] Like, of course, during the school day, as I've been saying,
[7:05] but even outside of school, Colleen made a public Twitter
[7:08] account where she would tweet just like help for her students
[7:12] like help on the homework revision tips, any like useful
[7:16] links or websites that she would find.
[7:19] She would tweet like little reminders like make sure you're
[7:21] wearing comfy shoes tomorrow because we're going on a school
[7:23] trip. Like she was just such an Angel.
[7:26] And her bio on Twitter as well was so cute.
[7:28] It was math teacher often too excited about the topics I'm
[7:32] teaching. In October of 2013, Miss Ritzer
[7:35] had a new student in her algebra class and he wasn't doing very
[7:40] well. She could tell that he was
[7:41] struggling. He was like lagging behind all
[7:43] the other students in the class. His name was Philip Chisholm.
[7:46] He was 14 years old and he was new to the area because he was
[7:50] originally from Tennessee, but his parents were in the middle
[7:54] of a really messy divorce at this point in time.
[7:56] His mother had got in custody of Philip, and so she'd moved the
[7:59] two of them over 1000 miles away to Massachusetts.
[8:03] I don't know why she decided to move so far, but this was a
[8:06] huge, huge change for Philip, as I'm sure you can imagine, for a
[8:09] 14 year old kid to be like up to move to the other side of the
[8:13] country. Like he's got no friends, he
[8:15] doesn't know anyone here, new school.
[8:17] It was all so overwhelmed for Philip and Colleen because she
[8:22] was so attentive to all of her students.
[8:24] She'd noticed that Philip didn't seem to be settling in very
[8:28] easily. He didn't seem to have like a
[8:30] group of friends that he would like walk to and from classes
[8:33] with or sit with at lunch. It just didn't seem like he was
[8:36] finding his feet very quickly. He had joined the football team.
[8:40] What? The soccer team?
[8:43] So he joined this team. But again, I think they were
[8:45] quite clicky on the football team and they didn't really like
[8:49] welcome Philip Phillip into their group as well as you would
[8:52] hope. But Phillip was super, super
[8:54] talented at football. He was really, really good.
[8:56] Even back in Tennessee, he'd been on his school's football
[8:59] team there. And so when he joined this
[9:01] school, he tried out and he got on the football team immediately
[9:04] because he was he was really good.
[9:06] But even that hadn't helped him to make friends.
[9:08] And Colleen could tell that he was struggling not only just in
[9:12] general, but also with his algebra work.
[9:14] And she just really wanted to help this kid.
[9:16] She had a lot of empathy for her students and so she asked him
[9:20] one day on October 22nd, she asked him to stay back after
[9:24] class because she wanted to have a bit of a chat with him.
[9:26] The school day ended at around 4:00 PM, and so every single
[9:29] day, Philip's mother expected him home at about 4:30.
[9:33] You know, give him a bit of time to walk home.
[9:35] But on this particular day, October 22nd, 2013, Philip
[9:40] wasn't home at the usual time. So his mum just hung about and
[9:44] waited for a bit, just expecting him to be home any minute.
[9:47] Maybe he was just taking a bit longer walking on this
[9:49] particular the day, but as time went on, it was getting to like
[9:52] six PM 630. And now his mom's worried
[9:56] because she knows that he doesn't really have friends.
[9:59] So like, who could he be with? Is he just out by himself for
[10:03] two hours after school? Eventually his mom got so
[10:05] worried that at 6:34 PM she called the local Police
[10:09] Department and filed her son as missing.
[10:12] She told them that the last time she'd seen her son was when she
[10:15] dropped him off at school that morning and she hadn't seen or
[10:18] heard from him since. And so that's where police
[10:20] started. They went to Phillips School,
[10:22] Danvers High School, and they started asking round
[10:25] immediately. They went to his football coach
[10:27] because I think he was supposed to have football after school
[10:30] that day or like at lunchtime or whatever.
[10:32] And his coach said that Phillip never showed up for football
[10:35] practice that day, which was really unusual.
[10:37] He'd never missed because he was super, super passionate about
[10:41] the sport. He was good at it.
[10:42] He didn't want to miss his football lessons, football
[10:45] lessons, football practice, That's it.
[10:48] Football lessons. Everyone was even more worried.
[10:51] It seemed like no one had seen or heard from Philip in a while.
[10:54] He hadn't been at all the things that he's supposed to have been
[10:57] since about halfway through the day.
[10:59] So that evening the head teacher sat down and she wrote this big
[11:02] mass e-mail to all of the teachers in Danvers High School
[11:06] just basically telling them the situation.
[11:08] We've got this new student, Philip Chisholm, he's missing,
[11:11] hasn't been seen or heard from since halfway through the day.
[11:13] Do you know anything? Have you seen anything?
[11:15] And very quickly the head teacher received a response from
[11:18] one of the maths teachers at the school.
[11:20] But it wasn't exactly relating to Philip Chisholm, but to
[11:24] something quite similar actually.
[11:26] And that was that one of the teachers had also been reported
[11:30] missing that evening. It was Miss Colleen Ritzer.
[11:33] She too hadn't returned home that evening.
[11:36] And when she didn't, her parents got worried and contacted the
[11:39] school. So the school informed police of
[11:41] these two parallel disappearance cases.
[11:44] And naturally police started making connections between the
[11:47] two. Philip Chisholm was in Colleen
[11:50] Ritz's maths class and that day they had had a lesson together.
[11:54] So they were connected, they knew each other.
[11:57] Was there a chance that they could be together?
[11:59] They could be missing together By now, Colleen's parents had
[12:03] been looking for her for quite some time.
[12:04] They'd just been like driving around, ringing around all her
[12:07] friends. And at this point, her dad had
[12:09] driven all the way down to Danvers High School.
[12:11] As soon as he drove into the car park, he saw Colleen's car still
[12:15] parked there, which really worried him because school
[12:18] finished at what, like 4:00 PM and it was now 9:00 PM.
[12:22] What reason would there be for her car to still be in the car
[12:25] park so far out after hours? She lived 25 miles away.
[12:29] She definitely didn't walk home. Her parents had already been in
[12:33] contact with all of her friends, so it wasn't like she went to
[12:35] meet a friend after work and just left her car there.
[12:38] There was no explanation for her car still being there.
[12:40] And so her family went up to Colleen's classroom to have a
[12:43] look around, you know, the room that she taught maths in, and
[12:46] none of her belongings were there.
[12:48] It was as if she had actually left work that day and taken
[12:51] everything with her. Her bag wasn't there, her phone
[12:53] wasn't there, jacket wasn't there, like nothing.
[12:56] Everything that she'd brought in, she'd also seemingly taken
[12:59] away with her. So they're getting some really
[13:01] contrasting, confusing evidence here.
[13:04] All her belongings are gone, but she hadn't left in her car.
[13:07] So police got in touch with both Colleen Ritz's and Philip
[13:10] Chisholm's phone network companies, and they asked them
[13:14] to ping the location. Well, the last known location of
[13:17] both of their phones, the last hit that they got on Colleen's
[13:20] phone was from about 20 minutes, a 20 minute walk away from the
[13:24] school, so really not that far at all.
[13:27] And so they started searches in that area, just like manual
[13:30] searches, people walking up and down the roads looking either
[13:33] for Colleen or for this phone. And the last hit that police got
[13:37] on Philip Chisholm's phone was actually in a cinema about half
[13:41] an hour away, like 1/2 an hour drive away from the school.
[13:44] And so again, searches were started there.
[13:46] Police were sent there to try and find Philip.
[13:48] Unfortunately police had had no look at the cinema.
[13:51] They also had no look in the general area where Colleens
[13:54] phone was last pinged. But they did find something in
[13:58] the nearby area, maybe a few streets away from the school.
[14:01] Colleen Ritz handbag was found just laying on the floor and it
[14:05] was completely emptied. Everything had been taken,
[14:10] presumably her credit cards, her ID, her money, her phone,
[14:14] everything. Everything was gone out of this
[14:16] bag. As all of this had been going
[14:18] on, of course searches had been going on inside the school in
[14:21] Colleen's classroom and things like that and police had found
[14:25] something there even more concerning than the handbag.
[14:29] So Colleen's classroom was on the 1st floor and on the very
[14:32] end of that corridor there was 2 toilets, boys toilets, girls
[14:36] toilets. And in the girls toilet at the
[14:39] end of that hallway police found very small red smears on the
[14:44] tiles. It looked like blood.
[14:55] So police started grabbing all the CCTV footage they could from
[14:58] around the school because they wanted to pinpoint the last time
[15:02] that both Philip and Colleen were seen as they were seen
[15:05] leaving the school that day. The first camera that they
[15:07] tapped into was the one from right outside Colleen's
[15:10] classroom so it could see the the doorway, the entrance to and
[15:13] from her classroom. And just from this one camera
[15:17] alone, a very clear story starts to emerge.
[15:20] The footage that police were most interested in started
[15:23] around 3:00 PM, which she's around the time that Colleen
[15:27] Ritzer would have asked Philip Chisholm to stay back after
[15:30] class to speak to her for a while.
[15:31] Just after 3:00 PM, Colleen Ritzer leaves her classroom and
[15:34] walks a little down the hallway. She's smiling, Everything's
[15:37] fine. And then you see a shadow in the
[15:40] doorway of her classroom. A boy then leaves the classroom,
[15:44] hovers outside for a moment, and it looks as though he's looking
[15:47] around, seeing who's around. And that boy was 14 year old
[15:52] Philip Chisholm. He lingers for a moment,
[15:54] watching in the direction that Colleen's just walked.
[15:57] He's watching her walking into the girls bathrooms at the end
[16:01] of the hallway. Philip walks back into the
[16:03] classroom, just for a brief moment, and then emerges again.
[16:06] But now he has his hood pulled up and he is walking in the
[16:11] direction that he just saw Colleen leave in.
[16:14] As he gets closer to the bathroom, you can clearly see
[16:16] that he's holding a pair of gloves in his hands and he puts
[16:20] them on as he enters the room where Colleen is.
[16:24] The cameras then don't don't catch any more movement for
[16:26] about 11 minutes. The area where Philip and
[16:29] Colleen are in the bathroom is covered.
[16:32] It's a blind spot. But 11 minutes later, the next
[16:35] movement that they see on camera was another student, another
[16:39] female student walking into those girls bathrooms.
[16:42] She gets in there and very quickly seems to turn around and
[16:45] head straight back out again. This was later explained by the
[16:48] girl. She said that she walked into
[16:50] those bathrooms, she was just going to use them normally, but
[16:53] then she saw one of the bathroom stalls was open slightly and
[16:57] there was a person in there exposed from the waist down.
[17:00] She saw like a pile of clothes on the floor and this person was
[17:03] naked from the waist down. And so she thought, Oh my God,
[17:06] I've just seen someone getting changed and you know, for their
[17:09] own privacy. And because she was feeling a
[17:11] little bit embarrassed, she just turned and walked straight out.
[17:14] She said that was all she saw. That's all she thought it was,
[17:17] someone getting changed in the toilets.
[17:18] Very quickly after that, the camera catches Phillip Chisholm
[17:22] leaving the girls bathrooms in quite a hurry, still with his
[17:25] hood up. He walks all the way down the
[17:27] corridor, down the stairs and out of the building.
[17:30] And he looks like he's in a hurry.
[17:31] He's like keeping his head down. He doesn't want anyone to see
[17:34] him. He runs outside, takes his blue
[17:37] hoodie off, and then when we see him again, he's changed into a
[17:40] red jacket. And after that, he's just kind
[17:42] of like running around the school.
[17:44] It doesn't seem as though he has any like major purpose.
[17:46] He's just like running around looking around.
[17:49] And bear in mind, this whole time Colleen Ritzer has not been
[17:53] seen leaving the girls bathroom for about 5 minutes.
[17:56] On the rest of the CCTV footage, Philip Chisholm is just running
[17:59] around. He doesn't look like he knows
[18:01] what he's doing. He doesn't look like he's got
[18:03] any major direction. He's like taking his jacket off
[18:05] one minute. I think he had it round his head
[18:07] at one minute like he doesn't know what he's doing.
[18:10] Then eventually after about 10 minutes, Philip leaves the
[18:13] school again. And then he's caught on cameras
[18:16] dragging A wheelie bin back into the school.
[18:19] He drags it inside up the stairs to the first floor and drags it
[18:24] into to the girls bathroom. He's not seen on camera for
[18:28] about 6 minutes after that and then when he is seen again he is
[18:32] dragging the bin out of the girls bathrooms with a mask on
[18:36] now. So he drags this wheelie bin
[18:38] again down the stairs and out of the school.
[18:41] Which I just want to say he didn't get questioned or stopped
[18:44] once which I find insane. This kid has just brought a
[18:48] whole wheelie bin in and he's just dragging it up and down
[18:51] stairs as well. That would have been noisy, it
[18:53] would have been disruptive. He didn't get stopped or
[18:55] questioned once, dragged it all the way back outside and on his
[18:59] way out. Philip seems to be noticeably
[19:02] struggling to drag the bin a lot more than he was when he was
[19:06] bringing it in, almost as if it was heavier now and a bit harder
[19:10] to control. The cameras follow him, dragging
[19:13] it all the way outside the school, down the street and
[19:16] towards a nearby woods. About 25 minutes later, Philip
[19:21] Chisholm comes out of the woods, now without the bin.
[19:24] Colleen Ritzer was never seen on any of the CCTV again after she
[19:30] entered that girl's bathroom. She was not seen leaving again
[19:34] and so this footage of the wheelie bin was insanely
[19:38] concerning because that's the only explanation was Colleen
[19:42] Ritzer in that bin. After ditching the bin in the
[19:45] woods, Philip Chisholm then returns to school for 1/3 time
[19:49] and again he's dressed differently again.
[19:52] This time he doesn't have socks and shoes on.
[19:54] He's wearing jeans and they're just covered in what looks like
[19:57] blood stains. He just openly walked into
[20:00] school like this when there's students still around.
[20:04] And again, no one questioned him.
[20:05] So now he went into a different. Bathroom, not the girls
[20:08] bathroom, the same one where he was before.
[20:10] He went into a different bathroom and got changed again,
[20:13] this time into an all black outfit.
[20:15] After that, I think he went into the girls bathroom one last
[20:18] time, the bathroom where he'd been with Colleen Ritzer.
[20:21] And then when he came out, he left the school for the final
[20:25] time and then he's not seen again on CCTV.
[20:27] So now police had to figure out where he was.
[20:31] The last hit that they had on his mobile phone was at that
[20:33] cinema, but that was hours ago and they'd already searched
[20:36] there and he he wasn't there now, so they had no idea where
[20:39] he could be and they still didn't know where Colleen was.
[20:43] But they had a pretty good idea after seeing this CCTV footage.
[20:47] So searches began in that woods just by the school.
[20:51] And this is the same night that Colleen's gone missing.
[20:53] These searches are happening quickly.
[20:55] Meanwhile, other police officers are trying to get some Intel on
[20:58] Philip Chisholm, try and find out where he is.
[21:01] Just after midnight that night, police received a concerned
[21:05] phone call from just a member of the public who said they'd seen
[21:09] a young man walking the opposite way down like a highway or
[21:14] something. And he had his hood up and he
[21:16] just seemed like he was up to no good.
[21:17] There was just something about this guy.
[21:20] He was up to no good. And so this person called police
[21:22] just to ask them to check on him.
[21:24] When police arrived at the scene and they went to go and speak to
[21:27] this hooded man, they found out that it was actually 14 year old
[21:31] Philip Chisholm. He'd just been walking down this
[21:33] road and he didn't have his phone on him anymore.
[21:36] And where he was found at this point in time was 5 miles away
[21:39] from the cinema, and it's believed that he'd just walked
[21:43] that whole 5 miles. He'd just been walking since he
[21:45] left the cinema. They searched him on the spot,
[21:48] and Philip was found to have a knife on him.
[21:51] A knife that still had dried blood on it.
[21:54] But inside of his backpack was even worse.
[21:57] They found a box cutter, again, still with blood on it.
[22:01] They found a mask. And, and they found Colleen
[22:04] Ritz's credit cards and ID. There was also a pair of women's
[22:08] underwear in that bag. And they had a pretty good idea
[22:12] of who's this was. A few days later, it was
[22:14] confirmed to be Colleen Ritz's underwear.
[22:17] So police asked Philip where he'd gotten all these items
[22:21] from. And Philip said that he'd
[22:22] actually just found them on the floor outside a shop.
[22:25] And he recognized Colleen Ritzer as his algebra teacher.
[22:28] And so he picked it all up. And he was thinking, oh, just
[22:31] give her it all at school tomorrow.
[22:32] Of course, police didn't believe that for a minute.
[22:34] And so they kept pressing Philip and they're like, come on, tell
[22:37] us the truth. Tell us how you actually found
[22:39] all of this stuff. And he was like, fine, fine.
[22:41] I'll tell you the truth. I broke into her car and I stole
[22:44] it all. Of course, they still don't
[22:46] believe him. They've seen the CCTV.
[22:48] At this point, they're just wanting a confession out of him.
[22:50] They know that the car theft story isn't real either.
[22:53] And so to be able to try and get these answers out of him because
[22:57] he was just going to keep lying if he was prompted again.
[23:00] So to try and get the correct answers out of him, they asked
[23:04] him, well, where's all this blood come from?
[23:06] There's blood inside your bag. There's blood on this knife, on
[23:08] this box cutter. Whose blood is this?
[23:11] And Phillip just responded, the girls.
[23:13] So Philip Chisholm was driven back to Denver's police station,
[23:17] where his mother met him there so that she could sit in on his
[23:20] interview. And police noticed that as soon
[23:23] as he was, like, reunited with his mother and he was sat there
[23:26] with her, he wasn't the same boy.
[23:29] Like, this seemed to have really put a barrier up in how he was
[23:33] talking. He wouldn't say much when his
[23:35] mother was there. It was clear that this made him
[23:37] quite uncomfortable. And actually, after a little
[23:39] while, he asked if he could be questioned without his mother
[23:42] present, which was granted because police felt it would be
[23:46] for the best. We'll get back to the, like,
[23:48] details of the questioning a bit later.
[23:50] But right now in the case, it's like the early hours of the
[23:53] morning. They had been questioning Philip
[23:56] for a little while up until this point with his mother present,
[23:58] but he really wasn't giving them much at all.
[24:01] He wasn't, he wasn't a talker. He was a no comment.
[24:05] But then, just after 3:00 AM, officers that were searching the
[24:09] woods made a gruesome discovery. Under a pile of leaves, they
[24:13] found the brutalized dead body of 24 year old Colleen Ritzer.
[24:19] She was naked from the waist down and absolutely covered in
[24:23] blood. She'd clearly been very savagely
[24:26] murdered. There were so many visible stab
[24:29] wounds all over her. It seemed as though she'd had
[24:32] her throat slit. And there were a lot of smaller
[24:35] like cuts and grazes all over her.
[24:37] There was mud all over her suggesting that she'd really
[24:40] fought for her life, like there'd been a big struggle here
[24:43] she was trying to save herself. And right next to Colleen's body
[24:47] was a note. And it was very clear that this
[24:50] note had been left intentionally.
[24:52] It was right by the body and scribbled on it was I hate you
[24:55] all. Police also felt as though
[24:57] Colleen's body had been left intentionally posed in a
[25:01] sexually suggestive position. And she also had a tree branch
[25:07] still inside of her. Colleen Ritz's autopsy showed
[25:11] that she'd been strangled. She'd been stabbed at least 16
[25:15] times. Her throat seemed to have been
[25:17] slit. They couldn't tell if it was
[25:19] like a slit or like multiple stab wounds in the same area
[25:22] because a lot of her stab wounds seemed to be like focused chest
[25:26] and neck area. They did find evidence of her
[25:29] being raped not only by a person, but also with this tree
[25:34] branch that was found still inside of her.
[25:36] And the worst part of all of this was that the pathologist
[25:40] thought there was quite a good chance that Colleen had been
[25:43] alive through all of this, and that she'd actually died from
[25:48] blood loss very slowly after the attack.
[25:51] They believed it was likely that she'd just been laying in that
[25:54] woods for quite some time after the attack had actually
[25:57] finished, but she was just too weak and injured to be able to
[26:00] get herself up and get some help.
[26:02] It's believed that she bled out so slowly because a lot of the
[26:06] stab wounds that had been done were done with seemingly the box
[26:10] cutter that was found in Phillips bag.
[26:12] Because a box cutter has only a really tiny blade, it wouldn't
[26:16] make that deep of a stab wound deep enough for you to
[26:19] eventually bleed out if there's enough done.
[26:22] But none of them were really deep enough to like sever nerves
[26:25] or veins. In fact, there were only three
[26:27] veins that were actually severed, no three blood vessels
[26:31] that were severed due to what they believed to be the slit on
[26:35] her throat. And that was where most of the
[26:37] blood loss came from, about 20 yards away from where they'd
[26:40] found Colleens body. They also found that wheelie bin
[26:44] that they'd seen Phillip dragging around on the CCTV
[26:47] footage, and when they opened it, there was blood inside.
[26:51] And not far away from that there were a pair of gloves just
[26:55] laying on the ground in the woods, again with blood all over
[26:59] them. Another interesting piece of
[27:00] evidence that was found maybe a little bit later on in the night
[27:04] was a couple of drops of blood. I think one was on the street
[27:07] that connected the school and the woods, and one of them was
[27:11] in the entrance way of the school.
[27:14] And so this really helped to, like, solidify police's theory
[27:18] that Colleen Ritzer was inside that bin.
[27:21] I mean, I'm sure they had enough evidence at this point in time,
[27:24] but that was physical proof of the journey that her body had
[27:28] taken as she was severely bleeding.
[27:31] And they can connect it to the CCTV of him dragging the bin.
[27:41] So now police had a very clear picture of what they thought had
[27:45] happened. 14 year old Philip Chisholm had raped, murdered and
[27:50] robbed his teacher and then ditched her body in the woods
[27:54] before going on the run and going to watch a movie.
[27:56] Yeah, as soon as he ditched the body in the woods, he went to
[28:00] this cinema using Colleen's credit card, paid for himself to
[28:04] go and see a new Woody Allen movie.
[28:07] He then went to Wendy's and again, using Colleen's credit
[28:10] card, bought himself some dinner and then he just went for a five
[28:13] mile walk until he was eventually found by police later
[28:16] that evening. But why had he done all of this?
[28:20] Because Philip wasn't really talking in his interview.
[28:22] So police couldn't understand where this had come from.
[28:26] Why? Why had this new student just
[28:29] turn around and wanted to murder his teacher one day?
[28:31] Police wanted to get a bit of an idea of a motive and Philip
[28:35] wasn't giving him it. So they decided to go and speak
[28:37] to anyone else in the school that might have been close to
[28:40] Philip or close to Colleen Ritzer.
[28:42] And they found out that on this particular day, you know, when
[28:45] Colleen had asked Philip to stay back after class, he wasn't the
[28:49] only one that stayed back after class.
[28:51] There was another girl in that room with them, a girl called
[28:54] Autumn. And so she was called in for a
[28:56] police interview as well. They basically wanted to know
[28:58] kind of what the atmosphere was like in that room.
[29:01] Had anything happened in the lead up to the murder that they
[29:04] should be aware of? And some of the things that
[29:06] Autumn told them were very, very interesting.
[29:09] She said that she'd overheard Miss Ritzer because she wasn't
[29:13] part of this conversation. By the way, Autumn, she I think
[29:15] she was just like doodling in her book.
[29:17] And she overheard the conversation between Colleen
[29:20] Ritzer and Philip Chisholm. And Colleen was just kind of
[29:22] asking him how he was settling in, you know, how he was doing.
[29:26] And he seemed fine in this conversation.
[29:29] And then Colleen started asking him about Tennessee, you know,
[29:33] his life before he came here. What was it like there?
[29:36] You know, how was he dealing with his parents, divorce,
[29:38] things like that. She was asking him because she
[29:40] cared. And Autumn said that it was at
[29:42] this point that Philips energy just comes completely changed.
[29:47] She could tell that he was very visibly angered or distressed by
[29:52] the conversation topic. He started getting snappy and
[29:55] Moody. And apparently Colleen picked up
[29:57] on this quite quickly. And so she changed the subject
[29:59] really quickly. They started talking about
[30:01] something else, but Philip's mood wasn't picking up.
[30:04] Colleen was trying. She was talking about other
[30:06] things, she was trying to joke with him.
[30:08] But no, he was in. He was in a really bad mood now.
[30:11] And so eventually Colleen just excused herself and went to the
[30:14] bathroom. And, and that was when we see
[30:16] her leave the classroom. And then Philip followed her.
[30:20] So could it have been that brief conversation about Tennessee
[30:24] that triggered the murder? Because it certainly seemed to
[30:27] have triggered something in Philip Chisholm?
[30:29] Not entirely sure what, but he didn't like that topic of
[30:32] conversation, and it made him very angry.
[30:35] Some people think that that is what triggered the murder.
[30:38] But I think it's important to remember that Philip Chisholm
[30:42] turned up to school that day with the following things in his
[30:45] backpack. A knife, a box cutter, a mask, a
[30:49] pair of gloves. He came with a plan did he not?
[30:53] I don't know about any of yous but I didn't take half of that
[30:56] to school with me. Maybe gloves every now and
[30:58] again. Not a box cutter or a knife.
[31:00] Don't forget he had like 3 changes of clothes as well.
[31:03] He had like two different jackets, an all black outfit to
[31:06] get changed into like he was prepared.
[31:09] Does that mean that this was premeditated?
[31:12] Had he come to school that day planning to kill Miss Rick?
[31:16] That or was Colleen Ritzer always his intended target?
[31:20] There's a couple of different theories here.
[31:23] Could he have gone to school just wanting to murder someone,
[31:27] anyone. And then maybe Colleen Ritzer
[31:29] was the one that triggered him with that Tennessee
[31:32] conversation. Was he just waiting for someone
[31:35] to piss him off? And was he just going to kill
[31:37] the first person that that put him in a mood?
[31:39] And unfortunately that was Colleen.
[31:41] Or did he go there specifically waiting to target Miss Ritzer?
[31:45] Was he just waiting to get her alone?
[31:46] And it just so happened that this was the opportunity that he
[31:50] got. There was another student that
[31:51] spoke to police at one point, a girl called Rania.
[31:54] Rania. Yeah.
[31:56] She said that she sat next to Philip in their actual maths
[31:59] class that was taught by Miss Ritzer.
[32:02] And she said that during the whole class, Philip had just
[32:04] been doodling some really dark drawings.
[32:08] I don't know what dark drawings means, but yeah, Rania said that
[32:12] he just seemed like he was in a bit of a, a bit of a mood, a bit
[32:15] of a like dark mood, you know? So maybe he was already feeling
[32:19] volatile before the Tennessee conversation with Miss Ritzer
[32:23] even happened. And then that just, like,
[32:24] triggered him on another level. I don't know.
[32:27] But we can't forget that he raped Colleen Ritzer.
[32:31] So a sexual motive is a huge part of this crime.
[32:34] He did it twice, seemingly. And I'm sorry, I feel like this
[32:38] could sound quite morbid, but he could have achieved that with
[32:43] any female victim. So why did he specifically
[32:47] choose Colleen Ritzer? He could have murdered one of
[32:50] his female schoolmates and done that exact same thing.
[32:54] He could have carried it out the exact same way.
[32:56] So I wonder why he chose his teacher over any other female
[33:01] victim. You know, Was it that he was
[33:04] infatuated with Colleen Ritzer? Did he have a thing for her?
[33:07] And did did it manifest in an awful way like this?
[33:11] Did it? Was it the opposite?
[33:12] Did he hate her? Did he really not like Colleen
[33:15] Ritzer and want to hurt her? Or was it not even about Colleen
[33:19] but maybe more so about his schoolwork or his maths work?
[33:23] Was he struggling in the subject or was she just like a
[33:27] representation of school to him? Because he was having a hard
[33:31] time at school. He wasn't fitting in.
[33:32] So maybe he saw Colleen as something to take that anger out
[33:36] on. She represented school or maths
[33:40] to him. Maybe maybe that was a factor in
[33:42] it. We really don't know because
[33:44] like I said, he was not talking to police at all.
[33:47] They really couldn't get any specifics out of him.
[33:50] But all they knew was that this boy needed charging for murder
[33:54] right now. And they had enough proof.
[33:55] They had enough proof, and they could do it.
[33:57] So Philip Chisholm was officially charged with the
[34:00] murder of Colleen Ritzer, awaiting his trial.
[34:03] Philip was sent to a youth detention center.
[34:05] Obviously, they didn't want him just, I don't know, walking the
[34:07] earth at the same time as everyone else.
[34:09] That was scary. So they sent him to a youth
[34:11] detention center. And you would be thinking that
[34:14] as you're waiting for your murder trial, you're going to be
[34:16] on your best behaviour, aren't you?
[34:17] Because you don't want to make things any worse for yourself.
[34:19] But no, not Phillip Chisholm. While he was at the detention
[34:23] centre, he actually attacked a female member of staff in an
[34:27] eerily similar way to the way that he attacked Colleen Ritzer.
[34:31] He followed this one particular member of staff to a store room
[34:35] and then walked inside and attacked her.
[34:38] I think he was using a really sharpened pencil that was like
[34:41] the only weapon that he could get hold of.
[34:44] He was as well just beating her up with his hands, doing
[34:47] anything that he could to this woman without a weapon.
[34:49] Honestly who knows what would have happened if he had had a
[34:53] bladed weapon. Maybe that woman would have lost
[34:55] her life as well. But luckily she managed to
[34:57] scream for help and other staff came and saved her.
[35:00] I don't know if Phillip saw any extra like charges or
[35:03] punishments for this, I couldn't find anything but hopefully you
[35:07] would assume that he would. So because Phillip Chisholm was
[35:10] 14 at the time of committing the murder, that meant that he would
[35:13] be tried as an adults. But first they needed to see if
[35:16] he could trial at all. They needed to see if he was fit
[35:19] for trial. So they put him through loads of
[35:21] different psychiatric tests, psychology assessments, all that
[35:24] kind of stuff to see if he had any degree of mental illness.
[35:27] The first assessment came back with nothing really to note.
[35:31] I mean, the psychiatrist acknowledged that Philip did
[35:34] seem quite down. He seemed a little bit depressed
[35:37] maybe, like he wasn't settling in very well.
[35:40] But no mental illness that this guy could note anyway.
[35:45] Philip did, however, say to this psychiatrist that he experienced
[35:49] hallucinations quite a bit and from time to time he believed
[35:52] that he was a ninja. But the psychologist didn't
[35:55] think that that was like a mental illness or anything.
[35:57] He just thought, I don't, I don't know.
[35:59] I don't know. I mean, they did give it like a
[36:01] second and third opinion. Philip went to see a couple of
[36:04] other psychiatrists, psychologists, and all of them
[36:07] said they couldn't see any mental illness in this guy.
[36:10] He was deemed fit to stand trial and the insanity plea was out of
[36:14] the window because he was perfectly sane at the time that
[36:17] he did this. So at the end of 2015, Philip
[36:20] Chisholm's trial began and he pled not guilty to the murder of
[36:24] Colleen Ritzer. And although he couldn't exactly
[36:26] use the insanity plea to get away with murder, his defense
[36:30] team still did try and say that his mental health was the main
[36:34] factor in why he did this, that he had really, really poor
[36:37] mental health after the divorce and after the move.
[36:40] And his family had a history of poor mental health as well.
[36:44] But like so do most families. And that's not an excuse for
[36:48] murder. It's not even a reason.
[36:50] They were basically just trying to say that he was like a
[36:52] teenager acting out after his parents divorce.
[36:55] But I wouldn't say rape and murder is exactly acting out
[36:58] after your parents divorce. That would be like getting into
[37:00] a fight at school. Not raping, murdering and
[37:03] disposing of your teacher's body.
[37:05] And his defence team even tried to blame Colleen for her own
[37:09] murder, saying that because she brought up Tennessee in a
[37:12] conversation with him, it triggered him and that's what
[37:14] led to her murder. It must have sent him into some
[37:17] sort of like psychotic episode. They believe, although he he was
[37:21] never diagnosed with anything, but they think that this
[37:24] conversation was the trigger. The prosecution came back and
[37:27] said that this was a sexually motivated homicide that Philip
[37:30] Chisholm had planned and premeditated, proving that he
[37:33] knew right from wrong. They even had all of the
[37:36] psychologists and psychiatrists that had tested him and assessed
[37:39] him stand up there in court and say, yeah, I know he's got
[37:43] nothing wrong with him. We didn't diagnose him with
[37:45] anything. He was of sound mind at the time
[37:48] of the murder. One of them even said that his
[37:50] symptoms of like hallucination and thinking that he was a ninja
[37:54] were inconsistent, AKA they think he faked.
[37:58] At the end of the trial, the jury went and deliberated for
[38:01] two whole days and eventually came back and found Phillip
[38:05] Chisholm guilty of the rape, murder, and robbery of his
[38:09] teacher Colleen Ritzer. He was, however, found not
[38:12] guilty of the second rape charge pertaining to the tree branch
[38:17] that was found still inside Colleen's body when she was
[38:20] found. And this is really, really
[38:21] frustrating, but the law in Massachusetts, at least at the
[38:25] time, I don't know if it's still like this, but it required that
[38:28] a victim of sexual assault had to be alive at the time that
[38:32] they were sexually assaulted. Otherwise that's just like abuse
[38:35] of a cops otherwise. And the coroner said in court
[38:39] that they couldn't determine whether Colleen was alive or
[38:43] dead when she was assaulted with that tree branch.
[38:46] There's no way for them to know. And so for that reason, he can't
[38:50] be found guilty of sexually assaulting her with that tree
[38:53] branch because technically we don't have the proof that it
[38:57] fits that criteria. Does that make sense?
[39:01] And it's equally as frustrating because for that same reason,
[39:05] they can't find him guilty of abuse of a cops either because
[39:08] they can't prove that she was dead when he did that.
[39:12] So basically, they know that he did it, but he can't be found
[39:15] guilty of anything because we don't know if she was alive or
[39:18] dead at the time that it happened.
[39:20] Thank God he's got all those other charges and been found
[39:23] guilty of them, because if it was not based on that alone,
[39:27] there would be riots because I think that's crazy.
[39:29] But anyway, as all of the verdicts were read out loud in
[39:32] court, Philip literally just sat there with the most blank stare
[39:36] on his face. No emotion, no guilt, no
[39:39] remorse. He was just staring
[39:40] straightforward, just hearing that he was guilty because he
[39:43] was so young, his sentencing was going to be a little lenient,
[39:48] meaning that he couldn't get whole life in prison or the
[39:51] death penalty. The highest amount of, well, the
[39:54] highest minimum that he could get in prison was 40 years.
[39:58] So he is going to serve a minimum of 40 years in prison.
[40:01] The soonest that he could get out on parole is 2055, when I
[40:05] think he'll be in his 50s. But yeah, that is all I have for
[40:09] this case. Thank you so much for listening
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