# The Sixth Quest: Chicken Bake and Heart Ache

An episode of [Sex.Life](https://invisiblenetwork.ai/podcast/1682116236), 8 Jul 2025, 1 h 03 min.

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Content Warning: R18, Language and Sexual Material May Offend. It’s official—Morgan has a boyfriend! L-bombs are dropped just before this love fest goes long distance. It’s all surprise visits and love letters before Morgan’s kryptonite shows up and she slips up. G.I. Joe moves in, and Morgan transforms into a domestic goddess—baking, growing veges, and letting her man change the light bulbs. Bliss… until a shocking news headline flips her world upside down. Don’t miss Mumma Kez getting a big cock shock, Morgan’s cutesy-wootsy ladder, and a good old-fashioned forehead fu*&ing. Get your hands on Morgan’s wand or the Grinding toy at Wild Secrets, use code sex.life for 20% off Wild Secrets is the proud sponsor of the Sex.Life podcast. With 30 years’ experience behind the scenes and between the sheets helping Kiwi’s live their best Sex.Life Wild Secrets have the biggest range and best prices. Use promo code sex.life for a 20% discount on your next purchase at wildsecrets.co.nz. Hungry for more? Watch Pillow Talk, where Morgan pulls back the covers on the stories behind the podcast—think deeper dives, photos, surprise guests (including a few of the boys), and a weekly debrief with her glorious Mumma Kez. Morgan Insta: @morganthesexologist Hayley Insta: @hayleysproull ZM Podcast Network: @ZMOnline See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

## Transcript

[0:04] Speaker 1: Sex.life brought to you by Wild Secrets. The ZDM Podcast Network.
[0:13] Speaker 2: Did you fuck his forehead?
[0:15] Speaker 3: Yes!
[0:15] Speaker 2: Yeah, great. And then I just slipped down, whoops, and
[0:19] Speaker 2: landed on his mouth.
[0:22] Speaker 1: I had sex on a military bunk with another soldier underneath.
[0:28] Speaker 3: And then they say that a Nelson man has been murdered.
[0:41] Speaker 2: I want a little siren or something. Oh, no, that's
[0:46] Speaker 2: not good for our nervous systems.
[0:51] Speaker 3: This is your content warning for a salacious, sexy podcast.
[0:56] Speaker 3: If this doesn't fill up your alley cat today.
[0:59] Speaker 2: Jog on.
[1:01] Speaker 1: Jogging.
[1:02] Speaker 2: Is that how you jog in France? Oui, oui. You
[1:06] Speaker 2: jog on. Yes, one croissant in hand and one.
[1:09] Speaker 1: Oh, she's lost it.
[1:12] Speaker 2: In hand. There's probably going to be a lot of
[1:14] Speaker 2: things that could offend you in this podcast. Yeah. Bad accents.
[1:17] Speaker 1: Bad accents. Munching. Sexuals. Lots of munching.
[1:20] Speaker 3: Lots of munching.
[1:21] Speaker 2: Butt stuff. Yeah.
[1:23] Speaker 1: So, adult ears only. Yes.
[1:25] Speaker 2: And if you're still here... Hi.
[1:26] Speaker 1: Hey.
[1:28] Speaker 3: Welcome to episode six of season three of Sex.Life. This
[1:32] Speaker 3: is our juicy podcast that we've created to change the world, really,
[1:36] Speaker 3: so we can normalize sex and healthy relationships and healthy
[1:41] Speaker 3: sex and, I don't know, really just be more of
[1:43] Speaker 3: a well-fucked society.
[1:45] Speaker 1: Fuck yes.
[1:48] Speaker 2: Oh my God.
[1:49] Speaker 1: We are trying to create a more well-fucked society. Brilliant.
[1:53] Speaker 2: Join the revolution, people.
[1:55] Speaker 3: Yeah.
[1:55] Speaker 1: Well, join Morgan Penn, who's a somatic sexologist. She's before
[1:59] Speaker 1: me now, looking beguiling, by the way. She's got a
[2:02] Speaker 1: full fucking... This is the thing, because I do radio
[2:05] Speaker 1: before this, so I've been up since four, and I
[2:06] Speaker 1: usually look like a rinsed bag of shit.
[2:08] Speaker 2: No, you don't.
[2:09] Speaker 1: But you've turned up with a full faux lash, contour, like,
[2:13] Speaker 1: full smoky eye. Why? And I've got, like, mascara.
[2:20] Speaker 2: What have you done?
[2:21] Speaker 3: Well....
[2:24] Speaker 2: I just woke up like this. Yeah, but.
[2:28] Speaker 1: How and why are you so glam for an audio recording?
[2:32] Speaker 2: Okay, because yesterday I did a photo shoot. Oh, okay.
[2:35] Speaker 3: And I paid a lot of money to get a
[2:37] Speaker 3: really good face of makeup and hair done.
[2:40] Speaker 2: Yeah.
[2:40] Speaker 3: And I ain't letting that shit go to waste. I
[2:42] Speaker 3: do two days of eyes in a row.
[2:44] Speaker 2: Oh, I can't.
[2:45] Speaker 1: I can't. Mine like crumbles and like all falls down
[2:49] Speaker 1: and I've got to wash my face at the end
[2:51] Speaker 1: of the night. Even if Hayley is immensely intoxicated, I'm
[2:55] Speaker 1: washing my face.
[2:55] Speaker 3: I wash my face, but I wash around my eyes
[2:58] Speaker 3: and then I sleep like I'm in a coffin.
[3:00] Speaker 2: Wow. Oh, and it's worked.
[3:02] Speaker 1: It looks great. It looks like you just got it
[3:03] Speaker 1: this morning.
[3:04] Speaker 2: Thanks.
[3:04] Speaker 1: Yeah.
[3:06] Speaker 3: Yeah.
[3:06] Speaker 1: I love this.
[3:07] Speaker 2: It's my life hack, you know?
[3:10] Speaker 1: I'm Hayley Sproul. I'm a wash rag sack of absolute
[3:15] Speaker 1: basic crap who didn't get the memo that we're going
[3:18] Speaker 1: to be looking real hot today.
[3:20] Speaker 2: That's bullshit. You look real hot today. I've also seen
[3:22] Speaker 2: you in your bra. I've seen your nipples. They look gorgeous.
[3:25] Speaker 1: Beautiful.
[3:26] Speaker 2: Thank you. Like targets. They were drawing me in. Yeah.
[3:29] Speaker 1: Yeah, I am wearing a nice see-through bra and a
[3:32] Speaker 1: matching panties.
[3:33] Speaker 2: Shit, you've changed, eh?
[3:35] Speaker 1: I know. I'm a different woman.
[3:36] Speaker 3: I know.
[3:37] Speaker 2: I love that for you.
[3:38] Speaker 3: Thanks.
[3:38] Speaker 2: It's nice to feel hot. Well, can we keep being hot?
[3:42] Speaker 1: Yes.
[3:42] Speaker 2: While I ask you about how your home play went.
[3:45] Speaker 1: Grinding.
[3:46] Speaker 2: Grinding.
[3:48] Speaker 3: And I did give you a tool, but you didn't
[3:50] Speaker 3: need to have a tool for this grinding home play.
[3:53] Speaker 1: No, you didn't. And I did mention when you gave
[3:55] Speaker 1: the new, the toy you gave us with the kind of,
[3:58] Speaker 1: you can grind on, you can put it in.
[4:00] Speaker 3: Yes.
[4:00] Speaker 1: I did mention that recently. I have been prone to
[4:03] Speaker 1: masturbating on my stomach. Yes. Which has been like so hot.
[4:06] Speaker 1: Hands and knees or stomach?
[4:07] Speaker 2: Love it.
[4:08] Speaker 3: Hot.
[4:08] Speaker 1: Mixing it up. I did use the tool, the grinder.
[4:11] Speaker 2: Yeah.
[4:12] Speaker 1: It's so my jam.
[4:13] Speaker 2: I knew it would be.
[4:14] Speaker 1: This isn't me being like, oh my God, you must
[4:16] Speaker 1: go and buy this. No, no, no. Literally like, I
[4:19] Speaker 1: have been enjoying the grind on like hands and my
[4:22] Speaker 1: other toys, but this was like amazing. I love an
[4:25] Speaker 1: external grind. And also I had my period last week
[4:28] Speaker 1: and I'm not like super prudish about masturbating on my period,
[4:31] Speaker 1: but I don't tend to put things in on my period.
[4:35] Speaker 1: I just sort of can't be fucked with a mess
[4:37] Speaker 1: or anything like that. So a lot of on or
[4:40] Speaker 1: like on top of undies, like vibrate on top of
[4:42] Speaker 1: undies or just like fingers, just on. And so this
[4:45] Speaker 1: was like literally timed up so perfectly for me to
[4:48] Speaker 1: like get my period and be like, oh my God,
[4:49] Speaker 1: which I'm, then I'm super horny.
[4:51] Speaker 2: Oh yes. The grind. Oh my gosh. I just had
[4:53] Speaker 2: like a little belly grind on.
[4:54] Speaker 1: The floor, by the way.
[4:55] Speaker 2: So you did it on the floor.
[4:56] Speaker 3: Yeah.
[4:57] Speaker 1: Cause I wanted the resistance of the hardwood floors.
[4:59] Speaker 2: Yeah.
[5:00] Speaker 3: Yeah.
[5:00] Speaker 1: So I like had that.
[5:01] Speaker 2: 10 out of 10.
[5:02] Speaker 1: Had a nice little cum.
[5:04] Speaker 2: Yes.
[5:05] Speaker 1: Yeah.
[5:05] Speaker 2: That's what I sort of said, eh, that it could
[5:07] Speaker 2: be almost like a lazy orgasm.
[5:09] Speaker 1: It is exactly it. Period. Sore stomach.
[5:12] Speaker 2: On the floor.
[5:13] Speaker 1: Lazy little grind.
[5:15] Speaker 3: Oh, my gosh. Release.
[5:15] Speaker 1: Release.
[5:16] Speaker 2: No mess.
[5:17] Speaker 1: Delicious.
[5:18] Speaker 2: I love that for you. Honestly, it's so good.
[5:21] Speaker 1: And I think also as well, like this period in
[5:23] Speaker 1: particular was really painful. I don't usually get painful periods,
[5:26] Speaker 1: but I just had really, really achy tummy and achy
[5:29] Speaker 1: back for days. So like, and then I'm like, you've
[5:32] Speaker 1: got to remember the pain relief that comes from orgasming.
[5:34] Speaker 2: Oh my gosh. Incredible.
[5:35] Speaker 3: And just the fact that all those muscles contract and
[5:38] Speaker 3: then release, it gives you so much pain relief.
[5:41] Speaker 1: Yeah.
[5:41] Speaker 2: So it is a great thing to do.
[5:43] Speaker 1: Yeah, like highly recommend. Yes.
[5:45] Speaker 2: Oh, well done.
[5:46] Speaker 1: Yep, thanks. That was just my simple review of a lovely, slow,
[5:49] Speaker 1: lazy grind.
[5:49] Speaker 3: Yes, well, I know that your toolkit is getting larger.
[5:52] Speaker 3: So when I am picking things for your home play,
[5:54] Speaker 3: I'm being very specific and being a bit of a.
[5:57] Speaker 3: you know, friend trying to think what would actually suit you. Yes,
[6:00] Speaker 3: I know.
[6:00] Speaker 2: So I'm pleased that worked for you.
[6:01] Speaker 1: Well, because you know the tentacle changed my life from
[6:03] Speaker 1: season two. That's right. Still my fave, but this was a,
[6:06] Speaker 1: I liked it. It was really good.
[6:07] Speaker 2: We've got to keep things mixed up.
[6:09] Speaker 1: Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.
[6:10] Speaker 2: That's why we try and add different things in.
[6:12] Speaker 1: Yeah.
[6:12] Speaker 2: And different experiences for the body.
[6:14] Speaker 1: I also had a, again, it sounds like I'm thumbing
[6:17] Speaker 1: it in, but I also had a maz with your wand,
[6:19] Speaker 1: which was so good for... Again, like being on the period.
[6:22] Speaker 3: Yes.
[6:23] Speaker 1: Just over the undies, a little buzz, a little fun.
[6:26] Speaker 2: Love. I'm pleased.
[6:27] Speaker 3: I honestly could not be more thrilled to know that
[6:30] Speaker 3: you are pleasuring yourself using my wand. I know.
[6:33] Speaker 2: Like that turns me on. I know, I know, I know.
[6:36] Speaker 1: It is so funny that you're my friend and me
[6:37] Speaker 1: being like, I'm going to make myself orgasm with this
[6:41] Speaker 1: thing that my friend designed.
[6:43] Speaker 2: Here we go.
[6:43] Speaker 3: Yes.
[6:44] Speaker 1: Rachie.
[6:48] Speaker 2: Oh, my experience was the opposite. Oh, no. Oh, God,
[6:51] Speaker 2: this was your first sex toy. What happened? Well, I
[6:53] Speaker 2: feel like you should have started me off with something
[6:54] Speaker 2: a lot simpler. Oh, my God. I was so awkward
[6:57] Speaker 2: with it.
[6:57] Speaker 1: Oh. Yeah, you've got to like figure that one out
[7:00] Speaker 1: a bit.
[7:01] Speaker 2: I didn't know where the bits went. There were like
[7:02] Speaker 2: three humps. And then I didn't know which was the
[7:05] Speaker 2: front and the back.
[7:06] Speaker 4: And so then I'm like in my bed in the
[7:09] Speaker 4: daytime because it's the only time I've got as we
[7:11] Speaker 4: know it.
[7:11] Speaker 2: And I've shut all the curtains and I'm like, okay,
[7:14] Speaker 2: get on.
[7:14] Speaker 1: Top of it.
[7:15] Speaker 2: And then I'm under the covers because I feel like naughty.
[7:18] Speaker 2: And then I'm basically like.
[7:20] Speaker 4: You know when people go to a party and there's
[7:22] Speaker 4: that one dude that does the, like, snake on.
[7:24] Speaker 1: The dance floor?
[7:25] Speaker 2: The worm, yeah, yeah, yeah. That's what I felt like
[7:27] Speaker 2: trying to get into the right spot. And it was–
[7:31] Speaker 2: I honestly– I failed at this. It's okay. It's okay.
[7:35] Speaker 2: It's okay. I'm sorry.
[7:38] Speaker 1: It was a big leap.
[7:39] Speaker 2: Yes.
[7:40] Speaker 3: On one hand, I thought it was a beginner's toy because,
[7:43] Speaker 3: you know, it is– Nothing is really expected of you
[7:46] Speaker 3: but to find your groove on it.
[7:48] Speaker 1: Oh, no. Morgan once gave me a cock vibrator with
[7:52] Speaker 1: a clip thing on it and then you had a zoom,
[7:55] Speaker 1: like a boom button that then is so thrusting at
[7:58] Speaker 1: high speed and I was like, far out.
[8:02] Speaker 2: That's what I felt like.
[8:02] Speaker 1: I mean, it doesn't not get used, I'll say that,
[8:05] Speaker 1: but she didn't start you off there.
[8:08] Speaker 2: And I kept going, have I got this round the
[8:09] Speaker 2: wrong way? And then I was freaking out about cross contaminations.
[8:12] Speaker 1: Oh, yeah, like if somebody touched your ass and then
[8:13] Speaker 1: you're flipping around the front and you're like, oh, God.
[8:16] Speaker 2: And you have to be aware of that.
[8:17] Speaker 4: And then I just started going wild with the different
[8:19] Speaker 4: settings and I was like, how does.
[8:20] Speaker 2: This thing stop? Oh, my God.
[8:21] Speaker 1: Brilliant.
[8:23] Speaker 2: I like this. Yeah, good on you, mate, for giving
[8:25] Speaker 2: it a home. Look, I gave it a try. What
[8:27] Speaker 2: did you grind, Morgz? Well, I actually happened to have
[8:30] Speaker 2: somebody in my room.
[8:31] Speaker 3: Oh, nice.
[8:32] Speaker 2: And I just thought, oh, well, Jesus Jones, I'll make
[8:35] Speaker 2: use of this other body.
[8:36] Speaker 3: Yeah. So I put it on his knee. And absolutely
[8:39] Speaker 3: went to Grindtown on there.
[8:40] Speaker 1: Did he find that hot?
[8:42] Speaker 2: Oh, he found it so hot.
[8:43] Speaker 3: And because then he had access to like my buzzies
[8:46] Speaker 3: and we were kind of kissing.
[8:48] Speaker 2: Yeah, it was so hot. Oh, that made me horny.
[8:49] Speaker 1: That made me horny just now.
[8:51] Speaker 2: Okay, not that sorry.
[8:53] Speaker 3: And then I used it on him. So he was
[8:55] Speaker 3: lying on his back and I pressed it up against
[8:57] Speaker 3: his perineum. So one bit was up against his anus,
[9:01] Speaker 3: just on the butthole.
[9:02] Speaker 2: And then on the.
[9:03] Speaker 3: Perineum, so vibrating, which stimulates the G-spot, the male prostate,
[9:09] Speaker 3: from the external. And then the other bit was touching
[9:12] Speaker 3: the balls. And then I was giving him a gobby.
[9:14] Speaker 1: Fuck, I bet that was amazing.
[9:15] Speaker 2: Oh my gosh.
[9:16] Speaker 1: I bet that was, like, mind-blowing. Yes. Yes, it was.
[9:19] Speaker 2: Phenomenal from you, actually. Okay, and then we got real
[9:21] Speaker 2: weird again.
[9:22] Speaker 1: No, carry on.
[9:23] Speaker 2: Put it on his forehead.
[9:24] Speaker 3: Okay.
[9:26] Speaker 1: Did you fuck his forehead?
[9:27] Speaker 3: Yes.
[9:28] Speaker 2: Yeah, great.
[9:29] Speaker 3: And then I just slipped down, whoops, I landed on
[9:32] Speaker 3: his mouth. I lured him in.
[9:35] Speaker 2: I tricked him.
[9:37] Speaker 1: How good's a face at munch? Now, I know, Rachel,
[9:39] Speaker 1: I don't want you to bring up munching immediately because
[9:41] Speaker 1: last episode we got in a bit of trouble.
[9:43] Speaker 2: Well, it's already twice.
[9:44] Speaker 1: Have we?
[9:45] Speaker 2: And we're 12 minutes away.
[9:46] Speaker 1: I don't remember.
[9:47] Speaker 2: I don't really remember. Who's keeping count? But, yeah, how
[9:50] Speaker 2: good's a face though?
[9:51] Speaker 1: Anyway.
[9:51] Speaker 2: It can be called queening or throning.
[9:54] Speaker 3: So it's like when the face is sort of just
[9:56] Speaker 3: down and you sit on it, you're sitting on your throne.
[9:59] Speaker 2: So I quite like that.
[10:00] Speaker 1: Wow.
[10:01] Speaker 2: Yeah.
[10:01] Speaker 1: Oh, good from all of us, actually.
[10:03] Speaker 3: Rachel.
[10:04] Speaker 2: You can do better.
[10:05] Speaker 1: Yeah.
[10:05] Speaker 2: Yeah. When you're describing what you just did, I'm like, oh,
[10:08] Speaker 2: my God.
[10:09] Speaker 1: I could not. Baby steps, baby steps.
[10:10] Speaker 2: Imagine if I tried to sit on that on somebody's head.
[10:12] Speaker 3: I like.
[10:14] Speaker 2: How you're saying someone where you could just use your boyfriend.
[10:17] Speaker 3: Oh, yeah.
[10:17] Speaker 2: Well, you said someone was in my bedroom.
[10:19] Speaker 3: Yeah. Yeah.
[10:21] Speaker 1: You needed some duct tape to, like, duct tape it
[10:24] Speaker 1: to his forehead, you know, so it didn't move. And then, slip-de-doop.
[10:28] Speaker 2: Like a triceratops.
[10:30] Speaker 1: Oh, my God. Yeah, yeah, yeah, like he's got horns. Now, Morgan,
[10:38] Speaker 1: I'm so excited for this because last week you left
[10:41] Speaker 1: us hanging when you didn't go home with Ant and
[10:45] Speaker 1: then you just said casually that that was the last
[10:47] Speaker 1: time you ever saw him. And I thought it was
[10:50] Speaker 1: actually going to be the night that it all just
[10:51] Speaker 1: sort of like came together and like went off into
[10:54] Speaker 1: the love story I assumed we were heading towards. So
[10:57] Speaker 1: I'm a little bit.
[10:58] Speaker 2: Like floating in the unknown. Yeah.
[11:01] Speaker 3: I mean, that was a really pivotal moment in my life, actually,
[11:05] Speaker 3: that night, making that choice. It changed a big sequence
[11:09] Speaker 3: of events for me. It was a hard decision. And
[11:11] Speaker 3: I remember looking at Ant and looking at G.I. Joe
[11:14] Speaker 3: and like I was torn. And.
[11:17] Speaker 3: Yeah, I guess reflecting if I knew then that that
[11:20] Speaker 3: was going to be the last time that I saw Ant,
[11:23] Speaker 3: you know, would I have made a different decision?
[11:25] Speaker 1: Yeah.
[11:26] Speaker 3: But I have to trust the way that the world
[11:29] Speaker 3: and life is meant to work out.
[11:31] Speaker 2: And I chose G.I.
[11:33] Speaker 3: Joe.
[11:33] Speaker 1: Well, it's sliding doors, you know. It's two paths diverging
[11:37] Speaker 1: a wood and you've got to take one.
[11:38] Speaker 2: Exactly.
[11:39] Speaker 1: Exactly.
[11:40] Speaker 2: Okay, so G.I.
[11:41] Speaker 1: Joe.
[11:42] Speaker 2: So G.I. Joe.
[11:43] Speaker 3: Okay, so we've decided to move forward together. He comes
[11:46] Speaker 3: back to my home that night. We had a really hot,
[11:49] Speaker 3: fun summer together back in Nelson. Rugby boys, like, still
[11:54] Speaker 3: reaching out to me and I.
[11:57] Speaker 2: Even though you sang to him on the... It's crazy.
[12:00] Speaker 2: Even though you sang to him on the beach.
[12:02] Speaker 1: Let me tell you, I bet you that guy's never
[12:03] Speaker 1: forgotten me. Yeah, actually, what, you do leave an impression. Yeah, exactly.
[12:08] Speaker 2: We'll give you that.
[12:09] Speaker 3: So anytime he hears bloody Ronan Keating, I bet you
[12:12] Speaker 3: he's thinking about that wild woman he used to be with. Yeah.
[12:15] Speaker 1: Oh, she was mad.
[12:16] Speaker 2: Mad.
[12:17] Speaker 1: Unwell.
[12:19] Speaker 2: Trying her best, we could say. Yeah, trying her best,
[12:21] Speaker 2: but fundamentally quite unwell.
[12:23] Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah.
[12:24] Speaker 2: No, I can't contest that. Yeah. And, you know, I
[12:28] Speaker 2: was not ending it completely with Rugby Boy.
[12:31] Speaker 1: No.
[12:31] Speaker 3: And I think this, on reflection, comes from a place
[12:34] Speaker 3: of how fearful I was that this thing that was
[12:37] Speaker 3: developing with GI and Joe wasn't actually real. Yeah.
[12:40] Speaker 2: Like, he didn't really want me. It wasn't going to
[12:42] Speaker 2: last forever.
[12:43] Speaker 3: Even though it was feeling like everything that I'd always wanted,
[12:47] Speaker 3: I still wanted a backup. So I was just being
[12:49] Speaker 3: really aloof with rugby boy. He's trying to see me,
[12:52] Speaker 3: but I was just spending all my time with G.I. Joe.
[12:55] Speaker 3: But I was still messaging him back and being flirty and,
[12:58] Speaker 3: you know, which is like not ideal.
[13:01] Speaker 1: Wait, and so obviously at this point, Ant's back in Australia.
[13:03] Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, he's gone. He's gone home. And so I think, yeah,
[13:07] Speaker 2: at this point, G.I.
[13:08] Speaker 3: Joe and I had been together for about a week
[13:10] Speaker 3: and a half since meeting, and we were just, like, nonstop, like, together.
[13:14] Speaker 3: We were at this party, and someone said to me, oh,
[13:16] Speaker 3: is your boyfriend going down to the liquor store? And
[13:18] Speaker 3: I was like, ugh, he's not my boyfriend. And I
[13:21] Speaker 3: just said it in this, like, really trying to be cool, like, acting.
[13:25] Speaker 1: Don't be too full on.
[13:26] Speaker 3: No way.
[13:26] Speaker 1: It's early days.
[13:27] Speaker 2: Yeah.
[13:27] Speaker 3: Yeah.
[13:28] Speaker 2: And I hear G.I. Joe going, well, what am I then?
[13:31] Speaker 1: Oh, no, you've upset him.
[13:32] Speaker 3: And I didn't realise he had even heard me say that.
[13:36] Speaker 3: And I was like, oh. I was so shocked.
[13:39] Speaker 2: Like, is he actually thinking he's my boyfriend? And I
[13:43] Speaker 2: was like, oh, okay. Are you my boyfriend then? He's like, yes,
[13:47] Speaker 2: I'm your boyfriend.
[13:47] Speaker 1: I was like, oh. You didn't ask.
[13:50] Speaker 2: No, he didn't ask.
[13:51] Speaker 4: Yeah.
[13:51] Speaker 3: And I think I remember at that age being like, oh,
[13:54] Speaker 3: do you even have to ask or are you old
[13:55] Speaker 3: enough to.
[13:56] Speaker 2: Just like, no? It's not that like 14-year-old thing. Will
[13:59] Speaker 2: you be my girlfriend? Yeah.
[14:01] Speaker 4: Yeah.
[14:02] Speaker 1: I don't think Aaron ever asked officially.
[14:04] Speaker 3: Really? Yeah.
[14:05] Speaker 1: No, we just did the same thing. Had a date
[14:07] Speaker 1: and then just never stopped dating. Yeah.
[14:10] Speaker 3: It's funny how that all changes and then you learn
[14:12] Speaker 3: about good communication and why it's actually really important to.
[14:15] Speaker 1: Name things?
[14:16] Speaker 3: Name things and understand exactly the meaning of what's happening
[14:19] Speaker 3: with each person. Oh, mate.
[14:20] Speaker 1: And everyone listening has had a moment in their life
[14:22] Speaker 1: where they've been thinking, what the hell is this? What
[14:24] Speaker 1: are we? Oh, my God, I don't want to ask
[14:26] Speaker 1: because that's too full on. Heaven forbid I say that
[14:28] Speaker 1: I need to know something or have clarity around something.
[14:31] Speaker 2: I know.
[14:31] Speaker 1: Yeah.
[14:31] Speaker 2: And it's just actually the most simplest thing and the
[14:33] Speaker 2: only way to know. And I've spent so many years
[14:36] Speaker 2: talking to girlfriends and getting advice. What do you think
[14:38] Speaker 2: this means? What should I do? Just fucking ask a
[14:42] Speaker 2: question that you want to know.
[14:43] Speaker 1: Yeah.
[14:44] Speaker 3: Because you're going to get an answer. And from that answer,
[14:46] Speaker 3: you can then decide what's best for you.
[14:48] Speaker 1: That's right.
[14:49] Speaker 2: Wild.
[14:50] Speaker 3: Wild theory. So I've got a boyfriend. Look, my mum
[14:54] Speaker 3: loved him. Mama Kez was just like, he's the greatest.
[14:57] Speaker 3: Loved that he was in the armed forces.
[15:00] Speaker 2: Mm-hmm. He just literally became part of the family.
[15:03] Speaker 3: And one night we thought mum was out and we
[15:06] Speaker 3: were having this wild sex at home. So loud, so rambunctious,
[15:12] Speaker 3: like all around the room. And we stopped for a bit.
[15:17] Speaker 2: Got to have water.
[15:18] Speaker 1: Yeah, it was.
[15:19] Speaker 3: It was a water stop in the bathroom. So he
[15:22] Speaker 3: walked out of the bedroom nude. Then all of a
[15:24] Speaker 3: sudden I hear, like, all this commotion. I hear squealing.
[15:28] Speaker 3: I hear swearing. I hear doors slamming.
[15:31] Speaker 1: Oh, no.
[15:31] Speaker 2: And I think, oh, my God, what the hell is
[15:33] Speaker 2: happening out there?
[15:34] Speaker 3: And I come out and I'm nude and I see
[15:36] Speaker 3: mum in the hallway.
[15:38] Speaker 2: And she's going like this.
[15:39] Speaker 3: She's, like, so shocked but she's so impressed.
[15:45] Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah. And she's giving me two thumbs up. Oh, mama, shit. Oh,
[15:49] Speaker 2: mama cheese. I love that. And I'm like looking around
[15:51] Speaker 2: and I was like, where's G.I.
[15:52] Speaker 3: Joe?
[15:53] Speaker 2: I hear a little crack and it's the bathroom door
[15:56] Speaker 2: and he.
[15:56] Speaker 1: Looks at it.
[15:56] Speaker 2: I'm so sorry. I'm so sorry.
[15:59] Speaker 3: And I was like, oh, my God, this is like.
[16:03] Speaker 1: I mean, you're old enough, but it's just so fucking embarrassing,
[16:06] Speaker 1: the idea of your parents hearing you have sex.
[16:08] Speaker 2: No, it's not even the hearing. She saw him nude.
[16:11] Speaker 1: Yeah, lucky bitch.
[16:12] Speaker 3: And he hadn't like ejaculated, so he still had like
[16:15] Speaker 3: a semi, you know, like roaring out of there.
[16:18] Speaker 1: Yeah.
[16:19] Speaker 2: Anyways, he shuts the door and mum goes, that looks
[16:22] Speaker 2: like your old pet. And I said, what? She goes,
[16:26] Speaker 2: it's like your old pet. I was like, which one?
[16:29] Speaker 2: You know, I've had cats and lambs and dogs and birds.
[16:32] Speaker 2: She goes, they're oxolotl. It looks like our cock. Oh,
[16:38] Speaker 2: my God, his cock.
[16:39] Speaker 1: Mama.
[16:39] Speaker 2: So from then on.
[16:40] Speaker 1: Why did it have little arms? Because oxolotls, they grow
[16:43] Speaker 1: their little.
[16:44] Speaker 2: Arms and gills, don't they? They've got four legs and gills.
[16:46] Speaker 1: Yeah.
[16:47] Speaker 2: I don't know what the hell she thought she saw
[16:49] Speaker 2: in that moment. Oh, my God, Mum. I know. But
[16:51] Speaker 2: from then on, he was Archon.
[16:53] Speaker 1: Archon.
[16:54] Speaker 2: That was the name of the oxalotls.
[16:57] Speaker 1: Wow.
[16:57] Speaker 2: I don't know.
[16:59] Speaker 3: Do you think my family's unwell? Do you think, like— No,
[17:02] Speaker 3: I don't think they're unwell. I think they're just a
[17:03] Speaker 3: family like no other. Yeah.
[17:05] Speaker 1: And Mama Kez is a woman like I've never met
[17:10] Speaker 1: before either. So I can sort of see that her
[17:13] Speaker 1: response would be giggles, acts a lot of references about
[17:16] Speaker 1: his semi-hard penis, and that it wouldn't have been the.
[17:20] Speaker 2: Worst thing in the world, you know, that you were
[17:22] Speaker 2: caught having sex. No, no, it wasn't.
[17:24] Speaker 3: Like, she was absolutely fine about it. It was just
[17:27] Speaker 3: more that she had I think she was excited. I
[17:29] Speaker 3: don't think she'd seen a penis in a while.
[17:31] Speaker 2: Yeah, of course. We've just got a cock back in
[17:33] Speaker 2: the house.
[17:33] Speaker 3: Yeah.
[17:33] Speaker 2: Yeah, you're great. She's great. Yeah.
[17:36] Speaker 1: I'm never disappointed to see a cock, really. No, neither. Well,
[17:39] Speaker 1: a consenting cock.
[17:40] Speaker 2: Yeah, consenting. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Oh, God, this is. Yeah.
[17:44] Speaker 1: Yeah.
[17:45] Speaker 2: Yeah.
[17:46] Speaker 3: He was fine about it as well, you know, like.
[17:48] Speaker 1: Did you carry on?
[17:50] Speaker 3: Yeah.
[17:50] Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, great.
[17:51] Speaker 3: For sure.
[17:51] Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, great. I think Mama Kears would have wanted that.
[17:53] Speaker 3: Oh.
[17:53] Speaker 2: Absolutely. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
[17:55] Speaker 1: I mean, maybe she might have made herself scarce.
[17:57] Speaker 2: She did.
[17:58] Speaker 1: So you could finish, yeah.
[18:00] Speaker 2: It was quieter, you know. Yeah, yeah, yeah. He used
[18:03] Speaker 2: to play this song for me.
[18:05] Speaker 1: God, here we go.
[18:07] Speaker 2: Here we go. What was it?
[18:10] Speaker 1: Loving you is easy because you're beautiful.
[18:19] Speaker 2: Making love to you is all.
[18:23] Speaker 1: Don't leave me hanging.
[18:24] Speaker 2: I don't remember the rest.
[18:25] Speaker 1: Of the words.
[18:26] Speaker 2: I want to do.
[18:27] Speaker 3: La, la, la, la, la.
[18:29] Speaker 2: La, la, la, la, la. La, la, la, la, la.
[18:32] Speaker 1: La, la, la, la, la. La, la, la, la, la.
[18:39] Speaker 2: Oh, my God. He sung that to you? Oh, no,
[18:42] Speaker 2: he didn't. He put it on play. Yeah. I'd never
[18:45] Speaker 2: heard it before, but I was like, oh, my God.
[18:47] Speaker 2: This is beautiful. I'm literally in a romance film.
[18:52] Speaker 1: Yeah.
[18:53] Speaker 2: You know? Yeah, and you deserve to be. Thank you.
[18:56] Speaker 1: Thank you.
[18:56] Speaker 2: I think I really did.
[18:58] Speaker 1: That was the end.
[18:59] Speaker 3: We spent two weeks together, fully loved up. He went
[19:03] Speaker 3: back to Christchurch to the army. I went back to
[19:05] Speaker 3: Wellington to my radio promos. And I guess there is this–
[19:10] Speaker 3: protective part of me and I just think okay well
[19:14] Speaker 3: it's probably over you know we've had our romance yeah
[19:16] Speaker 3: how's this gonna last yeah this isn't sustainable and like
[19:19] Speaker 3: I've just done pretty much three years long distance with
[19:22] Speaker 3: this rugby boy yeah and it's come to nothing and
[19:26] Speaker 3: I can't do this long distance no you know anymore
[19:29] Speaker 3: and anyways this guy Joe is just bloody loved up
[19:34] Speaker 3: he does not Let me go.
[19:36] Speaker 1: Wow.
[19:37] Speaker 2: He is right in there.
[19:38] Speaker 3: He's calling me every night and we're talking on the
[19:42] Speaker 3: phone for hours.
[19:43] Speaker 2: Did you have phone sex? Yeah, we did.
[19:45] Speaker 3: Yeah.
[19:45] Speaker 2: We were having phone sex. I like phone sex.
[19:48] Speaker 1: Yeah.
[19:48] Speaker 3: Yeah.
[19:49] Speaker 2: It was really wholesome back then as well because we
[19:51] Speaker 2: didn't have like.
[19:52] Speaker 1: FaceTime.
[19:53] Speaker 3: Nah. we didn't have facetime or like good pics no
[19:56] Speaker 3: we had like skype but i don't think people really
[19:59] Speaker 3: knew about and you're just there with your baps yeah
[20:05] Speaker 3: yeah yeah yeah so we didn't really do that but
[20:08] Speaker 3: yeah the phone sex was hot yeah But I've got
[20:12] Speaker 3: some little notes here just to really like.
[20:14] Speaker 2: Give you a little peek into our lives.
[20:17] Speaker 3: Yeah. Like things he'd written to me or a quote
[20:19] Speaker 3: I'd written down. Every 10 seconds I have to sit
[20:22] Speaker 3: down and think about you. You've made my day way harder,
[20:25] Speaker 3: like my life way harder. I'm even worried about you now,
[20:28] Speaker 3: like if you're safe every moment of the day. Wow.
[20:31] Speaker 1: Wow.
[20:33] Speaker 2: Wow, okay.
[20:34] Speaker 1: He's feeling protective.
[20:35] Speaker 3: Yeah. Yeah.
[20:37] Speaker 2: I wonder if that was just because he was just
[20:38] Speaker 2: like an army boy. Yeah.
[20:40] Speaker 1: I'm here to protect the country and my woman. I'm
[20:41] Speaker 1: here to protect and serve. Yeah, yeah.
[20:44] Speaker 3: It's something I'd written. He's falling in love with me.
[20:47] Speaker 3: So this is what love is.
[20:49] Speaker 2: I love it. Now I'm a believer. It consumes me.
[20:52] Speaker 2: Songs have so much more meaning and beauty. Oh, darling. Darling.
[20:58] Speaker 2: I know.
[20:58] Speaker 1: Is it being in love, love, like your first adult love?
[21:02] Speaker 3: The first love and the mutuality of it that I'd
[21:05] Speaker 3: never experienced.
[21:06] Speaker 1: Yes, where you don't feel like you're being too much.
[21:08] Speaker 2: It's just like, we just fucking love each other.
[21:09] Speaker 1: Love.
[21:10] Speaker 2: Yeah.
[21:10] Speaker 3: It is a really, really precious, magical thing. I feel
[21:15] Speaker 3: really lucky that I had had it in such a
[21:18] Speaker 3: big way. After two and a half weeks, he told
[21:21] Speaker 3: me he loved me. On the phone, I've put exclamation, exclamation.
[21:25] Speaker 1: Wow.
[21:26] Speaker 3: The first boy to tell me he loves me. And
[21:29] Speaker 3: then I put, I told him I love him in person.
[21:33] Speaker 3: Quotations in the dark. A week later, In the dark.
[21:37] Speaker 2: I was too scared to say it to see his face.
[21:40] Speaker 1: So you didn't say it back to him in the
[21:42] Speaker 1: moment he said it?
[21:42] Speaker 2: No. Wow.
[21:43] Speaker 3: Because I was like, wow, if I'm really going to
[21:46] Speaker 3: say this to someone and really mean it, I want
[21:49] Speaker 3: to do it in person.
[21:50] Speaker 1: Yeah, that's nice.
[21:51] Speaker 3: Yeah.
[21:51] Speaker 1: I've said it once before to someone I didn't feel
[21:55] Speaker 1: it for.
[21:56] Speaker 4: Yeah.
[21:56] Speaker 1: Just as a knee jerk. It was when I was
[21:58] Speaker 1: like 17, I think, and it was my boyfriend and
[22:00] Speaker 1: he said, I love you in this weird way. And
[22:04] Speaker 1: I was like, oh. I love you too, but just
[22:07] Speaker 1: definitely didn't. Oh.
[22:09] Speaker 2: I know. And then did you say it again, like
[22:11] Speaker 2: more times to him?
[22:12] Speaker 1: Yeah, but I quickly broke up with him afterwards. Do
[22:14] Speaker 1: you know what I mean? I was like, fuck, sort
[22:16] Speaker 1: that right out, nip that in the bud.
[22:17] Speaker 2: Yeah, okay. Yeah. Oh, it's hard.
[22:20] Speaker 1: Oh, it is hard because I'm such a people pleaser.
[22:22] Speaker 2: Yeah. Love you. Love you too. Of course I do.
[22:26] Speaker 1: What else am I going to say?
[22:26] Speaker 2: Thank you. But we need to learn to do that.
[22:29] Speaker 1: I know. You know?
[22:30] Speaker 3: I think that's what I did when he told me.
[22:32] Speaker 3: And then I said, thank you, and then I said,
[22:34] Speaker 3: I'm not saying it back.
[22:36] Speaker 1: Yeah, grey. You bitch.
[22:39] Speaker 2: I was sassy. Give young Morgan that.
[22:41] Speaker 1: Yeah. Okay, so we're in love.
[22:42] Speaker 2: We're in love. So I knew at that point I
[22:46] Speaker 2: had to call Rugby Boy.
[22:47] Speaker 1: Yes. Now, is G.I. Joe aware of Rugby Boy's existence? Yes. Okay.
[22:54] Speaker 1: But you're like, I've got this sort of thing.
[22:56] Speaker 2: Yes, he is aware.
[22:58] Speaker 3: Okay. Okay. He became aware when he came to Wellington
[23:02] Speaker 3: for the first time. On my wall was a rugby
[23:05] Speaker 3: calendar of topless men, including the rugby player that is
[23:10] Speaker 3: featured in the story.
[23:11] Speaker 1: Yes, okay.
[23:12] Speaker 3: And he was like, who's that? And I was like, oh,
[23:16] Speaker 3: that's someone who's kind of an ex, kind of a thing.
[23:19] Speaker 3: And he was like, ah, okay. And he was like,
[23:22] Speaker 3: is that weird that it's on your wall?
[23:23] Speaker 2: And I was like, no.
[23:24] Speaker 3: No.
[23:25] Speaker 2: And he was like, okay. And he didn't.
[23:27] Speaker 1: He didn't care about it. Okay.
[23:28] Speaker 2: But also, like, that was a very clear part of
[23:31] Speaker 2: me that was like, you're not the boss of me.
[23:34] Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah. I'm actually allowed to have whatever I want
[23:35] Speaker 1: on my wall. Yeah.
[23:37] Speaker 3: Yeah. But I'd also, like, bake him cookies and make
[23:40] Speaker 3: cheesecakes for him. And I wanted to nest and, like,
[23:43] Speaker 3: do all those kind of girlfriend-y things. But also, like,
[23:46] Speaker 3: I'm still doing my own thing over here. Like, don't
[23:48] Speaker 3: think you're controlling me or anything like that. So I
[23:51] Speaker 3: called Rugby Boy. Okay.
[23:52] Speaker 2: And I'm thinking I.
[23:53] Speaker 3: Probably should take that calendar down to be fair, but
[23:56] Speaker 3: it did look good.
[23:58] Speaker 2: And I tell him, I'm really.
[24:00] Speaker 3: Sorry, but I have to end things with us because
[24:04] Speaker 3: I've met someone. And he was like, why do you
[24:07] Speaker 3: have to end it with us though? Like, haven't we
[24:09] Speaker 3: been through this?
[24:11] Speaker 2: Non-commitment, eh? I know.
[24:13] Speaker 1: Because you're not being enough for me.
[24:15] Speaker 3: Yeah.
[24:16] Speaker 2: Yeah.
[24:17] Speaker 3: And I just said to him, I've told you I
[24:19] Speaker 3: would end it when I found someone that I liked
[24:21] Speaker 3: better than you and it's happened. And he was like,
[24:24] Speaker 3: I just didn't see this coming.
[24:25] Speaker 2: I was like, what?
[24:27] Speaker 1: Oh, God, this guy drives me nuts.
[24:28] Speaker 2: I know. I know.
[24:30] Speaker 3: So anyways, he's like, can we still be friends? I
[24:31] Speaker 3: was like, yes. And he was like, and if anything changes,
[24:35] Speaker 3: let me know. I was like, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
[24:38] Speaker 2: All good, mate.
[24:38] Speaker 1: All good, mate.
[24:39] Speaker 2: So that was done, which is nice.
[24:41] Speaker 1: Yeah.
[24:42] Speaker 3: That felt complete. Then I could just get on with
[24:45] Speaker 3: my first love. And it was so lovely. We did
[24:47] Speaker 3: do this long distance. But honestly, I couldn't even think
[24:50] Speaker 3: about work. I was consumed by the sky. I was
[24:52] Speaker 3: getting flowers turning up at work. Love letters. I found
[24:57] Speaker 3: one of the letters he had addressed to my work.
[25:00] Speaker 3: Sexy Morgan Penn, the radio network.
[25:04] Speaker 1: Ah!
[25:04] Speaker 2: You know? Yeah, cute.
[25:06] Speaker 3: I know.
[25:07] Speaker 1: Oh, look at this little handwritten letter.
[25:09] Speaker 2: I know. What does it say? Come on, we need
[25:12] Speaker 2: to know. Oh, I don't know. You don't know? Do
[25:14] Speaker 2: you want to read it?
[25:15] Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, pass it to me and I'll decide.
[25:17] Speaker 2: Okay, you decide.
[25:18] Speaker 1: Okay, thank you. Oh my God, quite nice handwriting, very
[25:21] Speaker 1: old school. Baby girl, he says.
[25:27] Speaker 2: Can I read a little bit? Yeah, no, you can
[25:29] Speaker 2: read it out.
[25:29] Speaker 1: I hope that you were smiling at this point in time.
[25:32] Speaker 1: Not going to write too much rubbish. Oh, he's used
[25:33] Speaker 1: the wrong two.
[25:35] Speaker 3: Oh.
[25:36] Speaker 1: One O.
[25:36] Speaker 2: Okay, well, you can't protect the country and be good
[25:39] Speaker 2: at grammar, okay?
[25:40] Speaker 1: Okay, okay, we'll let it go. Okay, I've let it go.
[25:44] Speaker 1: Baby girl, I hope that you're smiling at this point
[25:46] Speaker 1: in time. Not going to write too much rubbish in
[25:47] Speaker 1: this letter, so I'm going to get straight to the
[25:49] Speaker 1: real stuff. Babe, I love you too much to have you.
[25:53] Speaker 1: He's just done it again. Do you know what I mean?
[25:57] Speaker 1: He just needs a second.
[25:58] Speaker 2: O in there.
[25:59] Speaker 1: I love you too much to have you not hear
[26:02] Speaker 1: from me in two weeks. We got that two right
[26:04] Speaker 1: with the W. Okay. I know you think that this
[26:07] Speaker 1: letter will expire as soon as I send it. But
[26:10] Speaker 1: that is wrong. In this letter, when I say I
[26:12] Speaker 1: love you and I never want to let you go, dot, dot, dot,
[26:15] Speaker 1: I will still be thinking that right of this very moment,
[26:20] Speaker 1: if not more. Hun, understand you are my absolutely everything.
[26:24] Speaker 1: I love you so much. Hope things are good with you. XOXO, love.
[26:28] Speaker 2: So and so.
[26:29] Speaker 3: I know.
[26:32] Speaker 2: That's a love letter.
[26:33] Speaker 3: It is a love letter. And you can also see
[26:36] Speaker 3: When he's saying it's going to expire. I mustn't have
[26:38] Speaker 3: been believing him when he was saying things to me.
[26:41] Speaker 1: Which is your pattern at this point.
[26:44] Speaker 2: Totally.
[26:45] Speaker 1: Oh, I'll shut it down before it turns to shit.
[26:47] Speaker 1: I'll prepare for the abandonment.
[26:48] Speaker 3: Yeah.
[26:49] Speaker 2: So fearful.
[26:50] Speaker 1: I'll get ahead of it.
[26:51] Speaker 2: Yeah.
[26:52] Speaker 1: And ruin it. Yeah. So it doesn't hurt.
[26:55] Speaker 2: I know. Yeah.
[26:56] Speaker 3: So this poor bastard had to keep writing me continuous
[26:59] Speaker 3: love letters. Declaring his love to just prove that it
[27:02] Speaker 3: wouldn't change.
[27:03] Speaker 1: I'm sure that's a lot of people's experiences. Do you think? Yeah,
[27:05] Speaker 1: I think so. I don't have this.
[27:08] Speaker 2: Yeah.
[27:08] Speaker 1: But I think I know a number of friends I
[27:10] Speaker 1: can immediately think of that have the same push away,
[27:13] Speaker 1: abandonment issue.
[27:16] Speaker 2: Yeah. It's a shame because this guy really wanted to
[27:21] Speaker 2: love me.
[27:21] Speaker 1: Yeah.
[27:23] Speaker 3: And he would surprise me. He'd like turn up. He'd
[27:25] Speaker 3: be like, babe, I've ordered you a coffee at this cafe.
[27:28] Speaker 3: You can go and collect it on me. And I'd
[27:30] Speaker 3: like go in there and just be around the corner
[27:32] Speaker 3: from my work. And he would be waiting in there
[27:33] Speaker 3: for me.
[27:34] Speaker 1: That's really cute.
[27:34] Speaker 2: I know.
[27:35] Speaker 1: I love surprise visits.
[27:36] Speaker 3: Yeah. Yeah.
[27:37] Speaker 2: So it was really cute. We did all these kind
[27:39] Speaker 2: of like long distance things.
[27:40] Speaker 3: One time that I went down to Christchurch and He
[27:45] Speaker 3: lived on the military base.
[27:46] Speaker 1: Oh, yeah.
[27:47] Speaker 2: So he had to put me in the boot.
[27:48] Speaker 3: I've been there.
[27:48] Speaker 1: I think I've actually might have had shag in there.
[27:49] Speaker 1: It's the, long story, but it's not super glamorous.
[27:56] Speaker 3: Oh, no. No.
[27:57] Speaker 2: It's rough and rugged.
[27:58] Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, it's rough and rugged.
[27:59] Speaker 2: Yeah, he had to put me in the boot and
[28:02] Speaker 2: smuggle me through the gates.
[28:03] Speaker 1: Yeah.
[28:04] Speaker 2: And then stay with him in barracks.
[28:07] Speaker 1: Yeah.
[28:07] Speaker 2: Rooted up a storm.
[28:08] Speaker 3: Yeah.
[28:09] Speaker 1: It's great.
[28:09] Speaker 3: Yeah.
[28:09] Speaker 1: Yeah.
[28:10] Speaker 2: Doing it in like the shared showers. Yes.
[28:13] Speaker 1: I had sex on a military bunk with another soldier underneath.
[28:22] Speaker 1: This was, like, literally, literally years ago.
[28:25] Speaker 2: You were boinking on the top bunk with another one underneath.
[28:28] Speaker 1: Poor guy, eh?
[28:29] Speaker 2: That poor soldier underneath. No, he was probably jerking off underneath.
[28:31] Speaker 1: Probably, actually.
[28:32] Speaker 2: Yeah.
[28:33] Speaker 3: Yeah.
[28:33] Speaker 2: That's funny.
[28:34] Speaker 1: I remember distinctly stepping on the bottom bed to get
[28:38] Speaker 1: up to the top bed. Like, stepping onto the bottom
[28:40] Speaker 1: to then get onto the ladder.
[28:41] Speaker 3: Yes.
[28:42] Speaker 1: And then being like, there's another human. Like, that's sort
[28:44] Speaker 1: of a thing, isn't it? And then carry on. Anyway.
[28:48] Speaker 3: Anyway.
[28:48] Speaker 2: I've lived, Morgan. I am so proud of you.
[28:51] Speaker 3: And I love that when I start sharing experiences, my
[28:56] Speaker 3: sister's been.
[28:56] Speaker 2: Out there having an experience of the same.
[28:59] Speaker 1: Yeah. It's the greatest. Well, this is cute, though, that
[29:01] Speaker 1: you smuggled into the barracks. Yes, yes.
[29:04] Speaker 2: And he was cute.
[29:05] Speaker 3: I just remembered he had tried to buy my favourite alcohol,
[29:08] Speaker 3: like fizzy, like fizzy.
[29:10] Speaker 2: RTD. No, a bottle of champagne.
[29:12] Speaker 4: Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.
[29:13] Speaker 2: And I think he bought me Bernardino.
[29:15] Speaker 1: Oh, fucking hell. If you know what Bernardino is, it
[29:18] Speaker 1: used to cost like $ 8.
[29:19] Speaker 2: Yeah.
[29:19] Speaker 1: It was sweet and fizzy and teenagers drunk it.
[29:23] Speaker 3: Yeah.
[29:23] Speaker 2: And I thought I was so much better than that.
[29:25] Speaker 2: I was drinking Riccadonna.
[29:28] Speaker 1: Bricadona. Arguably the exact same beverage with a slightly nicer
[29:32] Speaker 1: label and less trash connotations.
[29:35] Speaker 2: But I also judged him like, ooh, Bernardino. Ooh, Bernardino.
[29:39] Speaker 1: I used to always buy Bernardino when I was, you know, 15. Yeah.
[29:45] Speaker 1: if I'm just being honest.
[29:46] Speaker 2: Yeah okay okay wow okay.
[29:53] Speaker 3: So things are going pretty well we're all loved up
[29:55] Speaker 3: life's good and then I have a bit of a
[29:59] Speaker 3: slip up.
[30:01] Speaker 1: If the slip up comes in the form Of a
[30:04] Speaker 1: Polynesian rugby player. I'm going to be pissed off.
[30:08] Speaker 2: No, I can't remember what race he was. I think
[30:10] Speaker 2: he was just white.
[30:10] Speaker 1: Oh, but it was a slip-up. Like that kind of slip-up. Morgan.
[30:15] Speaker 2: You're going to get a shock. A bit of my
[30:18] Speaker 2: kryptonite comes in. A radio DJ. From out of town.
[30:23] Speaker 2: Fuck off. Not the same one.
[30:25] Speaker 4: Oh, God.
[30:26] Speaker 1: I thought it was Mr. Virginity and I was like,
[30:27] Speaker 1: I'm going to, I quit the podcast. Oh, no, no, no.
[30:29] Speaker 2: I quit the podcast. Yes, fair enough.
[30:30] Speaker 1: Yeah, good luck to you and the rest of your season.
[30:32] Speaker 2: Stupid.
[30:35] Speaker 3: But he comes to town and we've got a radio
[30:37] Speaker 3: promo and I get drunk and I think that I'm
[30:42] Speaker 3: still the single hot girl that I used to be.
[30:46] Speaker 2: Yes.
[30:46] Speaker 1: You got a bit sloppy.
[30:47] Speaker 2: I think I just made a beeline for him. Yeah.
[30:50] Speaker 2: Because I wanted to be the chosen one to know
[30:52] Speaker 2: that I still had it. Yeah.
[30:54] Speaker 1: I know that feeling.
[30:55] Speaker 2: And to be like, you know, I'm still free. I
[30:58] Speaker 2: can do whatever I want.
[30:59] Speaker 3: Yeah.
[30:59] Speaker 2: Which is just... Nobody owns me. No. No. So.
[31:04] Speaker 3: I don't really remember all the details, but I do
[31:07] Speaker 3: remember a good friend pulling me away from him and
[31:11] Speaker 3: taking me home. Oh.
[31:13] Speaker 1: Oh, so you didn't actually bang a rang?
[31:15] Speaker 2: No. Okay.
[31:18] Speaker 1: Maybe like, okay, it's not as bad.
[31:20] Speaker 2: Questionable if I kissed him. I'm not sure.
[31:22] Speaker 1: Yeah.
[31:22] Speaker 2: I'm not sure.
[31:24] Speaker 3: But I did sit on the stairs of my apartment
[31:26] Speaker 3: building bawling my eyes out with this friend for a
[31:29] Speaker 3: couple of hours.
[31:30] Speaker 1: Of course. I mean, we all had to do that
[31:31] Speaker 1: in our early 20s, you know.
[31:32] Speaker 3: Yeah. Yeah.
[31:33] Speaker 1: Oh, fuck that.
[31:35] Speaker 2: I've done it.
[31:35] Speaker 1: Yeah.
[31:37] Speaker 3: I had to the next day call G.I. Joe and
[31:39] Speaker 3: tell him. And to his credit, he was like, it's okay.
[31:43] Speaker 3: We're doing long distance. It's really hard.
[31:46] Speaker 1: Oh, how mature.
[31:46] Speaker 2: You know? And yeah, he didn't berate me. He didn't
[31:50] Speaker 2: growl me. He just was like, it's okay.
[31:52] Speaker 3: We'll just make sure we see each other more or
[31:54] Speaker 3: like let's look at more of a permanent solution. And
[31:58] Speaker 3: so I applied for a job down in Christchurch.
[32:01] Speaker 2: I didn't get it.
[32:02] Speaker 1: Mm-hmm.
[32:02] Speaker 3: And then I was like, oh, this is too hard.
[32:05] Speaker 3: And then he made a decision that he was going
[32:07] Speaker 3: to move. So he was going to move for me.
[32:10] Speaker 1: Right. So he was going to go live in the
[32:13] Speaker 1: army in Apahat.
[32:16] Speaker 2: No, he decided to leave the army. Jesus. Yeah, yeah.
[32:21] Speaker 2: That's a big move.
[32:23] Speaker 3: I know.
[32:23] Speaker 1: I've never really made a big move for anyone like that.
[32:26] Speaker 1: I've never moved for anyone.
[32:28] Speaker 3: Yeah.
[32:28] Speaker 1: Yeah, I've never– quit a job or, like, uprooted or been.
[32:32] Speaker 2: Like, right, yeah, I'm coming with. It is huge, actually.
[32:34] Speaker 2: It's huge.
[32:35] Speaker 1: Do you know what? I think I never would. I
[32:37] Speaker 1: think there's something in me that would never.
[32:38] Speaker 2: Yes.
[32:39] Speaker 3: But, yeah. Yeah, because it's one thing to move city,
[32:44] Speaker 3: but to move a career as well. Like, leave a
[32:46] Speaker 3: career that you're already established in.
[32:48] Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah.
[32:50] Speaker 1: You must be one hell of a woman. Oh, yeah.
[32:54] Speaker 1: You must give one hell of a gobby. Oh, yeah.
[32:57] Speaker 3: Yeah.
[32:59] Speaker 1: Man, we've heard about these gobbies, but give it up.
[33:02] Speaker 2: Leaving the military and moving cities? I know.
[33:06] Speaker 3: I know.
[33:07] Speaker 2: Bless him. He really, really, really loved me.
[33:10] Speaker 3: And it wasn't easy for me in this process of
[33:13] Speaker 3: him saying that he was coming because I actually always
[33:16] Speaker 3: felt like it would all turn to shit.
[33:18] Speaker 2: Yeah.
[33:19] Speaker 3: And two weeks before he was due to move, he
[33:21] Speaker 3: came up. We'd had a boozy night with my friends.
[33:24] Speaker 3: I was drunk and I must have been like pushing him,
[33:26] Speaker 3: like testing him. We're walking back to my place from
[33:29] Speaker 3: town and he pushed me up against this trellis fence
[33:33] Speaker 3: and he just said, stop it. Just fucking stop trying
[33:36] Speaker 3: to push me away.
[33:37] Speaker 2: I'm never going to leave you.
[33:39] Speaker 1: Wow.
[33:40] Speaker 3: And he just held me so tight. It wasn't rough,
[33:44] Speaker 3: but I think the physicalness of the holding as well
[33:46] Speaker 3: as the sort of force and the way he looked
[33:49] Speaker 3: at me and delivered that to me It was like
[33:53] Speaker 3: he saw right through me. Like he saw my shit.
[33:55] Speaker 3: He saw my abandonment wound. And he was like, I'm
[33:57] Speaker 3: not leaving. I love you. You can't push me away.
[34:01] Speaker 2: Interesting. Stop it. How very intuitive. Yes.
[34:05] Speaker 4: Yeah.
[34:07] Speaker 2: And I did. I settled down after that. Did you?
[34:10] Speaker 3: Yeah.
[34:10] Speaker 2: Did you?
[34:11] Speaker 3: Yeah.
[34:11] Speaker 2: Did you?
[34:13] Speaker 3: Yeah. Yeah.
[34:14] Speaker 1: I said, yeah, four times. I'm just surprised. I'm just like,
[34:17] Speaker 1: it's like, I mean, it's like a slap in the face.
[34:20] Speaker 3: Yeah. Yeah.
[34:21] Speaker 2: Yeah, something really shifted for me. Yeah, yeah.
[34:25] Speaker 1: Fucking stop it.
[34:27] Speaker 3: Yeah. And yeah, he moved to Wellington to be with
[34:32] Speaker 3: me and I let him love me. He taught me
[34:36] Speaker 3: how to let love in.
[34:38] Speaker 2: Wow. Yeah. Yeah. It was a long process. Yeah. But
[34:43] Speaker 2: I slowly softened.
[34:46] Speaker 1: Yeah.
[34:46] Speaker 3: We've got our first home together, our first little veggie garden,
[34:51] Speaker 3: which we made out of, you know, those blue clam
[34:53] Speaker 3: plastic shells.
[34:54] Speaker 1: Oh, my God. Yes, I had one of those.
[34:55] Speaker 2: They're used for kids' sandpits. Yeah, we used to use
[34:57] Speaker 2: it as an ashtray. Yeah.
[34:59] Speaker 3: What?
[35:00] Speaker 2: A giant ashtray?
[35:00] Speaker 3: Yeah.
[35:01] Speaker 1: It's huge.
[35:01] Speaker 2: It's like a paddling pool size. Mm-hmm. You are unwell.
[35:06] Speaker 1: When I was at drama school, we had it in
[35:07] Speaker 1: our backyard.
[35:08] Speaker 2: Wasn't that gross?
[35:09] Speaker 1: That's so gross. He's like, boop. Flickity wickity. I don't
[35:12] Speaker 1: think we ever emptied it.
[35:14] Speaker 2: Ooh, that is so grim.
[35:16] Speaker 1: I know, it's real grim.
[35:18] Speaker 3: Yuck.
[35:20] Speaker 2: But everyone knows those blue clamshells. Everybody in New Zealand
[35:23] Speaker 2: had one in their front garden or back garden.
[35:25] Speaker 1: Yeah.
[35:26] Speaker 2: Either for their kids, their gardens, or their ciggies.
[35:28] Speaker 1: Or their ciggie beds.
[35:28] Speaker 2: Yeah. We had little babies. We had fish babies.
[35:34] Speaker 1: Wow.
[35:34] Speaker 2: They were so dumb. They were like the worst thing.
[35:36] Speaker 2: Fish suck.
[35:37] Speaker 1: Fish as pets suck.
[35:37] Speaker 2: They're the worst thing. Yeah.
[35:39] Speaker 1: I had some once. The bowl stings. You had to
[35:41] Speaker 1: clean it all the time.
[35:43] Speaker 2: And they swim along and there's a shit that hangs
[35:44] Speaker 2: out the back.
[35:45] Speaker 1: Yeah, there's a shit that's hanging out their back. For
[35:46] Speaker 1: like a day.
[35:47] Speaker 2: Their shit tubes.
[35:48] Speaker 1: Yuck.
[35:48] Speaker 2: I know.
[35:49] Speaker 1: Oh, they're so lame and they don't do anything.
[35:51] Speaker 2: No, they do nothing.
[35:52] Speaker 3: The greatest thing that happened, we must have smuggled like
[35:54] Speaker 3: a tiny water snail in with it.
[35:57] Speaker 1: Oh, yeah, they're cute.
[35:58] Speaker 2: They're fun. And then we got snails and that was hilarious.
[36:01] Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, they're fun.
[36:02] Speaker 3: Yeah, that was the greatest thing about those fish. He like,
[36:06] Speaker 3: I had him a birthday, bought me diamond earrings. Wow.
[36:09] Speaker 3: It was all like this la-di-da. But I still like
[36:13] Speaker 3: was very defiant of myself. And I, like, came home
[36:17] Speaker 3: from work one day and I just told him, oh,
[36:19] Speaker 3: today I've just booked an OE with two of my workmates.
[36:22] Speaker 2: I'm going to be gone for a month. Oh, yeah,
[36:24] Speaker 2: she doesn't know how relationships work. You don't do that.
[36:26] Speaker 1: No.
[36:27] Speaker 3: Well, you consult. You can do it, but it's more
[36:29] Speaker 3: of a conversation than a telling. Yeah, well, I just thought,
[36:34] Speaker 3: same thing. You're not the boss of me.
[36:35] Speaker 2: Yeah. I'll go where I want. I don't need your
[36:37] Speaker 2: fucking permission. Uh-huh.
[36:39] Speaker 1: Yeah.
[36:39] Speaker 2: Independent woman.
[36:41] Speaker 1: Yeah.
[36:42] Speaker 2: And he was like, oh. Okay, like, have you actually booked?
[36:46] Speaker 3: And I was like, yeah. And he was like, okay. Like,
[36:48] Speaker 3: he was actually so great with me. Because if he
[36:52] Speaker 3: was to get riled up, I would have, like, run
[36:55] Speaker 3: right back.
[36:55] Speaker 1: Yeah.
[36:56] Speaker 2: I would have, like, made it a big thing and
[36:58] Speaker 2: then it's over.
[36:59] Speaker 1: Yeah.
[36:59] Speaker 3: He just knew how to handle me. And he gave
[37:02] Speaker 3: me the space when I needed it. Let me be me. Yeah.
[37:06] Speaker 2: I mean, he bloody loved me.
[37:09] Speaker 1: You sound fucking intolerable. And I say that from a
[37:13] Speaker 1: position of being one of the most intolerable people to
[37:15] Speaker 1: be with I ever imagine.
[37:17] Speaker 2: You know what I mean?
[37:18] Speaker 1: Yeah.
[37:18] Speaker 2: Yeah.
[37:19] Speaker 1: I do shit like this.
[37:20] Speaker 2: I've just decided to do this. Is it like a brat?
[37:22] Speaker 2: It's like a brat essence as well. It is a
[37:23] Speaker 2: brat energy.
[37:24] Speaker 1: Yeah, for sure. And that constant, like you constantly want
[37:26] Speaker 1: to remind everyone and anyone, even my like bosses that
[37:29] Speaker 1: employ me.
[37:30] Speaker 3: Yes.
[37:30] Speaker 1: Or my partner that who you create a life with
[37:32] Speaker 1: or my parents. I constantly want to remind them that
[37:34] Speaker 1: actually I can do whatever the fuck I want.
[37:36] Speaker 2: And it grows and grows.
[37:37] Speaker 1: And you think it's like being an independent woman, but
[37:39] Speaker 1: sometimes I think it's also being a bit of a brat.
[37:41] Speaker 2: Exactly.
[37:42] Speaker 1: Yeah.
[37:42] Speaker 3: And I think the sweet spot for me was learning
[37:45] Speaker 3: the parts of where I could relinquish control.
[37:48] Speaker 2: Yes.
[37:48] Speaker 3: Like I remember he came home one day and I
[37:50] Speaker 3: was like up a little step ladder changing the light bulb.
[37:53] Speaker 1: Yeah.
[37:53] Speaker 3: And he's like, what are you doing? I was like, well,
[37:55] Speaker 3: I'm changing the light bulb. And he's like, leave those
[37:58] Speaker 3: kind of jobs for me.
[37:59] Speaker 1: Oh, yes. Yeah, yeah.
[38:00] Speaker 2: I'm the man of the house. I do these things.
[38:02] Speaker 3: Yeah.
[38:03] Speaker 2: And I was like, I've grown up with a very strong,
[38:06] Speaker 2: Single mother. She did everything. So I've just learned to
[38:09] Speaker 2: do that as well.
[38:10] Speaker 1: Yeah.
[38:10] Speaker 3: But yeah, so I would be like, oh, babe, that
[38:12] Speaker 3: needs changing and let him take the rubbish out. Like
[38:15] Speaker 3: those kind of things he wanted to do. Yeah.
[38:17] Speaker 2: And I just had to.
[38:19] Speaker 3: let that go, as well as all these other different
[38:22] Speaker 3: weird things that I was learning.
[38:23] Speaker 2: But I don't know, it was a weird, it was,
[38:25] Speaker 2: I was learning how to do relationships. Rachel was actually
[38:28] Speaker 2: beside me during it. Oh, really? Yeah, I was friends
[38:30] Speaker 2: with Morgzine.
[38:31] Speaker 4: This was the kind of love that everyone around her,
[38:33] Speaker 4: we could see how much.
[38:35] Speaker 1: She was loved by G.I.
[38:36] Speaker 3: Joe.
[38:36] Speaker 4: He really was besotted with her and I feel like
[38:40] Speaker 4: he saw her and understood her on that level that
[38:44] Speaker 4: you do as a best friend. You know, when you
[38:45] Speaker 4: have a friend who gets into a relationship and you
[38:47] Speaker 4: connect with their partner because you have the shared knowledge
[38:49] Speaker 4: of what you know about that person that maybe not
[38:52] Speaker 4: everyone knows.
[38:53] Speaker 2: And G.I.
[38:54] Speaker 4: Joe saw that and loved that completely. And from the outside,
[38:58] Speaker 4: it was sort of a known thing about how big
[39:00] Speaker 4: their love was, you know? Yeah, it was a really
[39:03] Speaker 4: beautiful thing to witness. And it wasn't trouble-free, like, I'm
[39:07] Speaker 4: sure Morgz will get to it. You know, there were
[39:08] Speaker 4: hard parts, but it was beautiful to see the way
[39:10] Speaker 4: that he loved her.
[39:12] Speaker 1: Wow. Nice to hear it from the outside, isn't it?
[39:15] Speaker 2: Yeah, it is really nice, actually. Thanks, Rach.
[39:18] Speaker 1: You're welcome.
[39:19] Speaker 2: Yeah. He did. He bloody loved me.
[39:21] Speaker 1: Wow.
[39:21] Speaker 3: We're packing up to move into our new house, and
[39:24] Speaker 3: I found this photo of us together a year before
[39:27] Speaker 3: we met, before we even knew of each other. Oh, wow.
[39:30] Speaker 3: And we were at Friends 21st, and we're on the
[39:33] Speaker 3: dance floor, and he's behind me.
[39:35] Speaker 2: And we're not even looking at each other.
[39:37] Speaker 3: I'm posing for the photo, and he's, like, boogieing away
[39:40] Speaker 3: behind me.
[39:40] Speaker 1: Oh, my God. And you, like, don't even know that
[39:41] Speaker 1: you're going to have this, like, love story.
[39:44] Speaker 3: No.
[39:44] Speaker 2: And I'm like, this is. solidifies to me the magic
[39:48] Speaker 2: of love. Like you're meant to be together.
[39:50] Speaker 3: Yeah. You know, this is what I'm thinking. I'm like, okay,
[39:51] Speaker 3: this is why it took me so long to find
[39:53] Speaker 3: my person. It's just, it's all about divine timing. It's
[39:57] Speaker 3: just the universe doing its thing.
[39:58] Speaker 1: Hippie dippie morgues comes in.
[40:00] Speaker 3: Totally. And I'm like, got it. And so like everybody
[40:03] Speaker 3: would ask me about, you know, that was single. And
[40:05] Speaker 3: they're like, how do you find your one? It's just,
[40:07] Speaker 3: you've just got to wait. It's just divine timing, you know?
[40:10] Speaker 3: And when you know, you know. Like this was my...
[40:13] Speaker 3: thing now, my narrative, like, oh yeah, it's just meant
[40:15] Speaker 3: to be. Like, you don't have to do anything. It
[40:17] Speaker 3: just comes to you.
[40:18] Speaker 2: No, no.
[40:20] Speaker 1: Having been in a relationship for 14 years, I'm like, no, no,
[40:22] Speaker 1: you've got to work.
[40:24] Speaker 2: Yeah.
[40:25] Speaker 1: G.I.
[40:25] Speaker 3: Joe and I had been together for about two and
[40:26] Speaker 3: a half years. We move into a nice, really nice new, like,
[40:31] Speaker 3: little villa together. Cute. And I loved playing house, you know,
[40:36] Speaker 3: like I loved scouring the food in a minute website
[40:39] Speaker 3: and planning the week's meals. I was really obsessed with
[40:42] Speaker 3: this chicken bake with these potato pom-poms that you put
[40:46] Speaker 3: on the top.
[40:46] Speaker 2: That's so, like, food in a minute, eh?
[40:50] Speaker 1: I know. So unhealthy. It's all, like, everything's Watties and
[40:53] Speaker 1: Maggies and you've got to get the Watties this and
[40:55] Speaker 1: the Maggies packet this. And everything, we were like this
[40:58] Speaker 1: in the start of our relationship too, everything.
[41:00] Speaker 2: Was a bake.
[41:00] Speaker 3: Yep.
[41:01] Speaker 1: Do you know what I mean? You never did like
[41:03] Speaker 1: a curated dish that had elements. It was like everything's
[41:05] Speaker 1: a bake. Yeah. We've got a pasta bake. We've got
[41:07] Speaker 1: a potato bake. We've got a chicken bake.
[41:09] Speaker 3: Yes.
[41:09] Speaker 2: We just bake.
[41:10] Speaker 1: It was the greatest.
[41:11] Speaker 2: You just need one dish.
[41:12] Speaker 3: Yeah.
[41:13] Speaker 1: Chuck it all in. Yeah.
[41:14] Speaker 2: Whip it in the oven, coming out hot. Cover it
[41:16] Speaker 2: in cheese.
[41:17] Speaker 1: Wife me up. Wife me up.
[41:18] Speaker 3: Yeah.
[41:20] Speaker 2: So I loved that.
[41:21] Speaker 3: I loved coming home, you know, from work during the
[41:23] Speaker 3: day and, like, my little heels and, like, having my man. Yeah.
[41:26] Speaker 1: You know, it was great.
[41:28] Speaker 3: And the next-door neighbour, we heard him call his daughter, like,
[41:33] Speaker 3: a really cute little name, like Pop-a-Pop or something.
[41:36] Speaker 1: Yeah.
[41:36] Speaker 2: And I was like, oh, my God, that's so cute.
[41:38] Speaker 1: And he was like.
[41:39] Speaker 2: Do you want a cute name? And I was like, yes.
[41:41] Speaker 2: So he called me Popalop. Popalop. Yeah, so that became
[41:45] Speaker 2: like my, just at home.
[41:46] Speaker 1: Your little baby names. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Every couple's got them.
[41:49] Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah.
[41:49] Speaker 3: I feel a bit coy even saying it out loud now.
[41:51] Speaker 1: Oh yeah, it's so embarrassing. Yeah, yeah.
[41:53] Speaker 3: Fuck off.
[41:54] Speaker 1: No, but they are. Like we've always been Bean.
[41:59] Speaker 2: Like B-E-A-N, Bean.
[42:00] Speaker 1: Like Mr. Bean.
[42:01] Speaker 2: Yeah, like Bean.
[42:03] Speaker 1: And that was an advancement from Boone, which was an
[42:06] Speaker 1: advancement to Bebop, which Bebo, Bebopaluma, Bean, Beaniebo, Beelzebub, like
[42:11] Speaker 1: all this.
[42:12] Speaker 2: The evolution of the name.
[42:13] Speaker 1: Yeah, they just grow.
[42:14] Speaker 2: Bean.
[42:14] Speaker 1: And then you're like, when you say it in public,
[42:15] Speaker 1: you're like, fuck. I know. Oh, God. Hey, Bean, do
[42:18] Speaker 1: you know? You're like, ah. Ah.
[42:22] Speaker 3: Yeah.
[42:22] Speaker 2: Well, can we just all keep that one a secret?
[42:24] Speaker 3: Yeah.
[42:25] Speaker 1: What was it again? Popalop.
[42:26] Speaker 2: Oh, God.
[42:27] Speaker 3: Imagine me as Popalop, okay, and imagine me in my
[42:31] Speaker 3: Peter Alexander costume.
[42:32] Speaker 2: Fleecy pyjamas. Yeah. That had elephants on it.
[42:36] Speaker 1: Yeah.
[42:37] Speaker 3: And he used to like snuggle in behind me, spooning me.
[42:40] Speaker 3: And then I would say, letter! And then he would
[42:44] Speaker 3: put his, your face looks.
[42:46] Speaker 2: No, it's fine.
[42:47] Speaker 1: Cause I know this world exists. I've been guilty of it.
[42:50] Speaker 1: It's just, it's just not public. But here we are.
[42:53] Speaker 2: I know.
[42:53] Speaker 3: I feel like every part of my body saying like,
[42:55] Speaker 3: don't keep going with the story.
[42:58] Speaker 2: Keep going.
[42:59] Speaker 3: Okay.
[42:59] Speaker 2: So he's spooning me from behind. Yeah.
[43:02] Speaker 3: And then he, because he's taller than me, he would
[43:04] Speaker 3: put his feet, like legs straight, but his feet kind
[43:08] Speaker 3: of like erect.
[43:09] Speaker 1: Like flat, like a platform.
[43:10] Speaker 2: Yeah, like he's standing on something.
[43:12] Speaker 3: And then I would put my heels on top of
[43:14] Speaker 3: his feet, like I was on a ladder, but backwards ladder.
[43:18] Speaker 2: And then I'd go like kind of push.
[43:22] Speaker 3: Yeah.
[43:24] Speaker 1: Yeah, we just all have these things that you do
[43:26] Speaker 1: when you're in love and it doesn't make any sense.
[43:28] Speaker 1: You're like, why are we doing that? That's fucking weird.
[43:30] Speaker 1: What are you, a baby?
[43:32] Speaker 2: Lana.
[43:34] Speaker 1: I hate it. I hate it.
[43:35] Speaker 2: Oh, my God, I hate it now. I hate it.
[43:37] Speaker 2: I want to take it back.
[43:39] Speaker 1: No, it's out. Don't cut this. Make her live with it.
[43:44] Speaker 2: I'm watering my eyes.
[43:45] Speaker 1: We know. Lana.
[43:47] Speaker 2: Lana. And then it'd be like, oh, you're so cute,
[43:50] Speaker 2: and then snuggle me up and like, oh, God, okay,
[43:53] Speaker 2: I'm really– Really regressing.
[43:55] Speaker 1: I know, but if people have been in love before,
[43:57] Speaker 1: they know that this happens.
[43:58] Speaker 2: Yeah.
[43:59] Speaker 1: You just turn into weird baby adults.
[44:02] Speaker 3: Yeah.
[44:02] Speaker 2: What the hell?
[44:03] Speaker 1: And you're like, oh, fuck. What the fuck, man? I've
[44:06] Speaker 1: got a degree. Like, do you know what I mean? Like,
[44:09] Speaker 1: I've got a degree and a job. I just punched
[44:11] Speaker 1: the microphone. I'm so pissed off. And you're like, what?
[44:15] Speaker 2: Fuck, it's so yuck, eh?
[44:16] Speaker 1: This is it. It's so embarrassing. But you have to
[44:27] Speaker 1: know everyone who's been in love has been like this. Okay.
[44:30] Speaker 3: Okay.
[44:31] Speaker 1: It's okay.
[44:32] Speaker 2: Okay.
[44:32] Speaker 1: It's okay to be okay.
[44:35] Speaker 2: Thank you.
[44:36] Speaker 1: No one did pop a double kiss.
[44:38] Speaker 3: Oh, God.
[44:38] Speaker 1: Oh, God.
[44:39] Speaker 3: I'm just really giving you this insight of this love, okay?
[44:47] Speaker 1: Yes, I know.
[44:48] Speaker 2: I want the full picture of the love. This is
[44:49] Speaker 2: what I've always wanted. And I had it. Yeah. Had
[44:52] Speaker 2: a happy little home. She's got her pom-pom chicken bake.
[44:57] Speaker 2: Got my ladder.
[44:58] Speaker 1: Got your ladder.
[44:59] Speaker 2: Got my viewmaster. She's good.
[45:00] Speaker 1: She's ready to go.
[45:03] Speaker 3: So I think at this time of life, G.O. Joe
[45:07] Speaker 3: was doing night shift and I didn't mind that.
[45:11] Speaker 2: That was fine. He'd come in early hours of the
[45:13] Speaker 2: morning and snuggle me up and we'd be fine. But
[45:17] Speaker 2: this one night, he had just left. I'd said goodbye
[45:20] Speaker 2: to him. Had dinner.
[45:22] Speaker 3: Then I poured myself a little wine being an adult.
[45:25] Speaker 3: Sit down and watch the news. Oh. Oh.
[45:28] Speaker 2: Oh my. She has grown up. I know.
[45:31] Speaker 1: I really felt.
[45:32] Speaker 2: Like I was adulting.
[45:33] Speaker 3: Yeah.
[45:33] Speaker 2: You know.
[45:34] Speaker 3: I sat there and I don't know if they still
[45:36] Speaker 3: do this. I haven't like watched the news for years.
[45:39] Speaker 1: Yeah.
[45:40] Speaker 3: But they used to put up like a photo or
[45:43] Speaker 3: an image of like the headline story.
[45:46] Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah.
[45:47] Speaker 3: As the dramatic news music would play as you're watching it.
[45:51] Speaker 3: And so sitting there, you know, it starts and it's
[45:54] Speaker 3: a picture of someone who looks exactly like Ant. And
[45:58] Speaker 3: I was like, what the hell? this is so strange. Like,
[46:03] Speaker 3: this is uncanny. Who is that guy? And then they
[46:08] Speaker 3: say that a Nelson man has been murdered.
[46:14] Speaker 2: And it's Ant. And it made, yeah, the headline news
[46:21] Speaker 2: that night. What? Yeah.
[46:25] Speaker 3: And it was like, I don't even seen or felt
[46:33] Speaker 3: this moment like in a movie where you can't actually
[46:36] Speaker 3: do anything.
[46:37] Speaker 2: Like you're in a freeze state.
[46:40] Speaker 3: Like I couldn't do anything but just like look at
[46:43] Speaker 3: the TV and try to make sense of what I
[46:45] Speaker 3: was actually hearing if this was actually the truth. Nothing
[46:49] Speaker 3: was kind of computing. So I managed to like get
[46:51] Speaker 3: my phone and I called mum, but I couldn't talk.
[46:54] Speaker 3: I just started sobbing. And she was like, what's happened?
[46:57] Speaker 3: What's happened? And all I could get out was the news,
[47:01] Speaker 3: the news. And so, yeah, she must have turned on
[47:04] Speaker 3: the news and saw what was happening. And, yeah, he'd
[47:13] Speaker 3: been murdered over in Australia.
[47:15] Speaker 2: Oh, my God. Yeah. I know. It's shocking. What the fuck?
[47:27] Speaker 2: And because it was such a big event.
[47:29] Speaker 1: Yes.
[47:30] Speaker 2: Nobody had asked.
[47:31] Speaker 3: Had a chance to, like, tell people, you know, news
[47:37] Speaker 3: knew more about it through police than, like, friends.
[47:40] Speaker 2: At that point. What had happened?
[47:44] Speaker 1: Like... Yeah.
[47:46] Speaker 2: I mean, I don't want to go into it too much.
[47:48] Speaker 3: No. You know, just out of respect for families and stuff. But, yeah,
[47:53] Speaker 3: there was multiple people involved and.
[47:59] Speaker 2: Yeah, it was a really shocking, really shocking story.
[48:03] Speaker 1: Yeah.
[48:04] Speaker 2: And a really horrible way to be murdered. Oh, my God.
[48:08] Speaker 1: Yeah.
[48:11] Speaker 2: Yeah.
[48:12] Speaker 1: Oh, my God. I don't even know what to say.
[48:13] Speaker 1: I didn't... When you said at the end of last
[48:16] Speaker 1: week that you... Because I genuinely don't know anything about this.
[48:21] Speaker 2: No, I know. I'm sorry. No, no, no, no, no.
[48:25] Speaker 2: I'm sorry. My God.
[48:26] Speaker 1: I just can't imagine.
[48:29] Speaker 1: This unfulfilled thing, and then it's gone. But when you said, yeah,
[48:35] Speaker 1: that was the last time I saw him, I was like,
[48:36] Speaker 1: I wonder why?
[48:37] Speaker 2: Like, why?
[48:38] Speaker 1: And then I was like, maybe he got sick. I
[48:40] Speaker 1: did not expect this. No.
[48:42] Speaker 2: It was the last thing I expected.
[48:44] Speaker 3: No.
[48:45] Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah. And to have it all over the news
[48:47] Speaker 2: for about a week as well.
[48:49] Speaker 1: On this day that you're like, I'm going to be
[48:50] Speaker 1: a grown-up and watch the news. Yeah.
[48:52] Speaker 3: Yeah.
[48:53] Speaker 2: Yeah. And I called G.I.
[48:56] Speaker 3: Joe.
[48:58] Speaker 2: Kind of in this daze and, like, told him.
[49:00] Speaker 1: Did he know about Ant and his kind of, I
[49:04] Speaker 1: was going to say hold on you, but his kind
[49:06] Speaker 1: of long-lasting impact on you? No.
[49:09] Speaker 3: I mean, it was hard to explain the depth of
[49:11] Speaker 3: that love, especially because it's not like he was an
[49:13] Speaker 3: ex or, you know.
[49:15] Speaker 1: What were you ever?
[49:17] Speaker 2: Yeah.
[49:17] Speaker 3: He knew him from that night, you know, that clearly
[49:20] Speaker 3: I chose yeah JJ and so he always I think
[49:23] Speaker 3: had this like wondering about him like and he knew
[49:26] Speaker 3: I was still in touch with him and you know
[49:29] Speaker 3: but um yeah so no he didn't really know you
[49:33] Speaker 3: know yes him and also like who would have really
[49:36] Speaker 3: understood like a 14-year-old Morgan who was like in love
[49:39] Speaker 3: with him as well.
[49:40] Speaker 1: Obsessed, yeah.
[49:40] Speaker 3: Like that kind of a heart pull. The only person
[49:43] Speaker 3: who really knew was mum, you know. And so he
[49:48] Speaker 3: was really caring. He was like, do you want me
[49:49] Speaker 3: to come home? And I was like, I don't know.
[49:51] Speaker 3: Like I was so shook and so confused and I
[49:55] Speaker 3: didn't know what I needed.
[49:56] Speaker 2: Of course I needed him, but I didn't say that.
[49:58] Speaker 3: And so he was like, okay, well, I'll get back
[50:01] Speaker 3: to work then and I'll see you when I get home.
[50:03] Speaker 2: And I was like, okay. And I just, yeah, I
[50:07] Speaker 2: must have just, like, totally disassociated that night.
[50:09] Speaker 3: Don't even know what happened. Went to sleep, like, carried on.
[50:12] Speaker 3: Took a while to get his body back from Australia. Yeah.
[50:16] Speaker 3: And then I went down for the funeral.
[50:19] Speaker 2: And the first night I got back to mum's, I
[50:23] Speaker 2: drank a lot.
[50:25] Speaker 1: Yeah.
[50:25] Speaker 3: And I reread my diaries of these three consecutive years
[50:29] Speaker 3: where I was writing every day. And every day I
[50:32] Speaker 3: was mentioning something about Ant and, like, say if we
[50:35] Speaker 3: went for a walk or if we went for a
[50:37] Speaker 3: drive or if we, you know, oh, my God, we
[50:39] Speaker 3: went to McDonald's. I don't know, something so weird happened
[50:41] Speaker 3: in my brain that I totally regressed. And I thought, like,
[50:46] Speaker 3: I couldn't believe that he was dead.
[50:47] Speaker 1: I couldn't.
[50:48] Speaker 3: Like, in my mind, I was like, but I'm actually
[50:50] Speaker 3: alive with him in here. I'm actually, my body was reactivated.
[50:54] Speaker 3: I was feeling all the feelings again. And I was like,
[50:59] Speaker 3: I'm in love. Like, I'm in love with Ant.
[51:01] Speaker 1: Like. He's gone.
[51:04] Speaker 3: Yeah. Yeah. And, like, G.I.
[51:07] Speaker 2: Joe was, like, messaging me, like, are you okay? And
[51:09] Speaker 2: I remember that night. Fuck you.
[51:11] Speaker 1: Yeah, get away from me.
[51:12] Speaker 2: You haven't, like, supported me enough. Like, who are you? Like,
[51:15] Speaker 2: you don't love me. Like, I love this guy. And
[51:17] Speaker 2: you don't even know.
[51:18] Speaker 1: Yeah, you don't even know.
[51:20] Speaker 2: Exactly. The next day was the funeral, which was just,
[51:24] Speaker 2: I mean, as you can imagine, it was just horrific.
[51:27] Speaker 2: I just think that, yeah.
[51:28] Speaker 3: You know, and seeing his mom and his brother and, like,
[51:31] Speaker 3: But his friends that I did know from like that time,
[51:35] Speaker 3: it was really lovely to see again.
[51:36] Speaker 2: But it was just.
[51:37] Speaker 1: I can't imagine.
[51:38] Speaker 3: Yeah.
[51:39] Speaker 2: And all the media there was horrible.
[51:41] Speaker 3: And then I was due to fly back the next day.
[51:45] Speaker 2: And I said to mum, I'm not going back. Mum
[51:50] Speaker 2: was like, what?
[51:50] Speaker 3: What? I was like, I'm not, I'm just, I'm not,
[51:53] Speaker 3: I can't, I can't go back there. And I think
[51:56] Speaker 3: I was just spiraling and I didn't feel fully supported
[52:00] Speaker 3: by G.I. Joe, mainly because I think he didn't understand.
[52:04] Speaker 3: He didn't grasp the enormity of this for me and
[52:07] Speaker 3: my feelings. And not in these exact words, but he
[52:11] Speaker 3: pretty much said that I was overreacting. And so to me,
[52:15] Speaker 3: I was just like, nah.
[52:16] Speaker 1: You don't know.
[52:17] Speaker 2: No, no way in hell.
[52:19] Speaker 3: And I thought that at least being in Nelson and
[52:22] Speaker 3: with mum who knew the connection and the love and
[52:24] Speaker 3: the bond, that there was something still alive and I
[52:27] Speaker 3: was scared of going back to Wellington and then.
[52:29] Speaker 1: It was all over. Yeah, and you just carry on
[52:31] Speaker 1: with your life.
[52:32] Speaker 2: Exactly.
[52:33] Speaker 1: And that means that it's real and it's happened. Yes, yes.
[52:36] Speaker 3: And I think as well when you are with somebody
[52:39] Speaker 3: who is not really fully understanding your process or how
[52:43] Speaker 3: you're feeling, it kind of minimises.
[52:45] Speaker 2: Your experience as well.
[52:46] Speaker 3: Yeah. And it felt so consuming to me at this time.
[52:50] Speaker 3: And I needed to be looked after. And so I
[52:52] Speaker 3: just said, I'm not getting on that plane. And I
[52:55] Speaker 3: said to mum, I don't even want to be with
[52:56] Speaker 3: him anymore.
[52:57] Speaker 1: And mum. Just off.
[52:59] Speaker 2: Yeah. So off. Like, I don't think mentally fully sound
[53:04] Speaker 2: in that moment.
[53:05] Speaker 3: No, no, no.
[53:05] Speaker 1: Of course not.
[53:06] Speaker 2: You're in shock. Just overridden with grief.
[53:07] Speaker 1: Yeah, in grief.
[53:08] Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah.
[53:09] Speaker 3: But it was that bad that mum, like, called Jojo
[53:12] Speaker 3: and was like, I think you need to come back
[53:14] Speaker 3: and get her. Like. think she needs you to collect
[53:18] Speaker 3: her and take her back and she needs to know
[53:20] Speaker 3: she's loved and supported by you and he just thought
[53:23] Speaker 3: I was being stupid so oh oh you know but
[53:28] Speaker 3: I mean for me it was such an interesting time
[53:30] Speaker 3: because like how how do I go back to a
[53:33] Speaker 3: man who loves me But I am heartbroken about another man.
[53:39] Speaker 2: Yes. Who I was never actually with. Who was never yours.
[53:43] Speaker 1: Yeah.
[53:43] Speaker 3: And then he has to witness me being heartbroken about
[53:45] Speaker 3: another man. Yeah.
[53:47] Speaker 1: This is so murky. I don't even know what to,
[53:50] Speaker 1: how to, I don't even know what the.
[53:54] Speaker 3: Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.
[53:59] Speaker 1: Oh my God.
[54:00] Speaker 3: I had to make a decision around and sort out and.
[54:06] Speaker 3: Took me a bit.
[54:11] Speaker 1: I feel like you're leaving us there.
[54:13] Speaker 2: Yes, I'm sorry.
[54:15] Speaker 1: No, don't be. I'm just really shocked. I just had
[54:18] Speaker 1: no idea. You know when you, like, learn and you're like,
[54:24] Speaker 1: you hear this information, this story, and now I go
[54:26] Speaker 1: back and I'm like, oh, the stupid shit I was
[54:28] Speaker 1: saying about Anne. You know, like, oh, stupid thing, me
[54:31] Speaker 1: being like, just fucking fuck him. And now I'm like, oh,
[54:33] Speaker 1: my God, like, it's just unreal. That is. What a
[54:36] Speaker 1: horrific ending to his life and what, you know, obviously
[54:41] Speaker 1: for his family and everything, but what a very confusing
[54:44] Speaker 1: and dark and murky period and headspace for you to
[54:47] Speaker 1: be in.
[54:47] Speaker 3: I know.
[54:48] Speaker 1: With the love that you finally deserved and wanted and now.
[54:54] Speaker 2: It's just not right.
[54:57] Speaker 3: Right. No, for a long time and I still do,
[54:59] Speaker 3: but like reflected back on every little moment with him.
[55:02] Speaker 1: Yeah, and that fucking decision at that party and it's
[55:05] Speaker 1: like not that it would have changed anything.
[55:07] Speaker 2: No, no, it wouldn't have.
[55:10] Speaker 1: But would it have made things worse for you if
[55:13] Speaker 1: you had fully kind of fulfilled this relationship dream with Ant? Potentially.
[55:17] Speaker 2: Potentially. Like, who knows? I'll never know. No, you will
[55:20] Speaker 2: never know.
[55:21] Speaker 3: But I don't regret that decision per se because of
[55:25] Speaker 3: this beautiful relationship that I did have with G.I. Joe.
[55:28] Speaker 2: Yes, yeah. Yes, yeah, yeah, yeah. But it is that
[55:30] Speaker 2: sliding doors moment, like you say. It's just.
[55:33] Speaker 1: What else could have happened?
[55:34] Speaker 2: Yeah.
[55:35] Speaker 3: Yeah. And it's been really interesting for me knowing that
[55:38] Speaker 3: I was going to share this story. It has, like,
[55:42] Speaker 3: really brought up so much grief for me.
[55:44] Speaker 1: I bet.
[55:45] Speaker 2: Again.
[55:45] Speaker 3: Yeah. It just cracked into another layer. And I think
[55:49] Speaker 3: that's like a really important remembering for people. Healing isn't
[55:54] Speaker 3: linear and grief doesn't go away. It changes, you know,
[55:59] Speaker 3: and we learn to live with it. It will come
[56:00] Speaker 3: in in different bits and really it's showing a love.
[56:05] Speaker 3: it's showing us something that is now missing. Yes. And
[56:08] Speaker 3: where do you put that love? Like, that's what I
[56:10] Speaker 3: remember feeling. Like, where do I put that love for him?
[56:13] Speaker 3: Because it was a different love to what I was
[56:15] Speaker 3: giving G.I.
[56:15] Speaker 1: Joe.
[56:17] Speaker 3: And it was there, like, burning away. Even if I
[56:19] Speaker 3: only messaged him, like, once a month, it was like,
[56:22] Speaker 3: I loved him. Yeah, I was like, what do I
[56:24] Speaker 3: do now? It was such an emptiness. And, yeah, I just,
[56:31] Speaker 3: I feel really lucky to have loved someone. that deeply
[56:34] Speaker 3: yeah and it's funny because it's not like that was
[56:37] Speaker 3: a mutual like love I'm sure he didn't love me
[56:41] Speaker 3: in the same way that I loved him but there
[56:43] Speaker 3: was a deep friendship and care from him and love
[56:48] Speaker 3: in a different way like you know he was not
[56:51] Speaker 3: a teenage girl like obsessed with me.
[56:53] Speaker 1: Yes of course he wasn't hiding in his wardrobe well
[56:56] Speaker 1: we hope we assume hiding in his siblings wardrobe looking
[56:59] Speaker 1: across the fence and thinking oh my.
[57:02] Speaker 2: God no no.
[57:04] Speaker 3: But he was, yeah, he was a really beautiful man
[57:07] Speaker 3: and he was a good safe man for me, like
[57:09] Speaker 3: coming in, like learning my, you know, realms with men
[57:13] Speaker 3: and things like that. And, you know, his memory still
[57:16] Speaker 3: lives on in me a lot. Whenever I'm back in Nelson,
[57:19] Speaker 3: I'll go to his gravesite and I'm still connected with.
[57:23] Speaker 2: His mum and brother.
[57:24] Speaker 3: Yeah. Yeah.
[57:26] Speaker 1: Thank you for sharing.
[57:28] Speaker 3: Thank you for holding me in this space. We didn't
[57:30] Speaker 3: really expect it in this episode, but.
[57:34] Speaker 1: Sex.life. A bit of everything. Okay.
[57:40] Speaker 3: Yes.
[57:41] Speaker 1: Yes.
[57:41] Speaker 2: Okay. Okay. Fuck. Okay. Do we need to do anything?
[57:46] Speaker 2: Can we have.
[57:47] Speaker 1: A cleansing spray?
[57:49] Speaker 2: Yes, let's do that. We have this, listen, while she's
[57:51] Speaker 2: getting it.
[57:51] Speaker 1: We have this spray that Morgan brings in and she
[57:55] Speaker 1: cleanses us before we record and tells us to leave
[57:57] Speaker 1: behind anything. Thank you. That is not serving us. And
[58:02] Speaker 1: Rachel and I were getting a spritz, spritzy South Morgues. Cleansing, clearing,
[58:06] Speaker 1: letting go.
[58:06] Speaker 2: Not that that.
[58:07] Speaker 1: Story doesn't serve us, but it's just a good palate
[58:09] Speaker 1: cleanser and it smells like those delicious pink smokers.
[58:12] Speaker 3: Yes.
[58:12] Speaker 1: Those little musky, musty lollies.
[58:15] Speaker 3: And sometimes, you know, energy is a real thing and
[58:19] Speaker 3: it can feel a bit dense and heavy.
[58:21] Speaker 2: And that just lightens and cleanses and clears.
[58:23] Speaker 3: It does. Pour the zin, dim the lights and lean in.
[58:29] Speaker 3: Desire lush and zin. It's more than a wine. It's
[58:32] Speaker 3: foreplay in a glass. Homeplay, courtesy of Pasquale Wines.
[58:36] Speaker 1: So, Heaven, I don't even know where we could possibly
[58:39] Speaker 1: head for homeplay, but I assume you.
[58:42] Speaker 2: Have some.
[58:43] Speaker 1: And I assume it's not grinding onto a three-humped creature.
[58:49] Speaker 2: No, no, no. You've done your physical, you know, for.
[58:54] Speaker 3: for last week so this week's home play is tell
[58:59] Speaker 3: them that you love them you know like don't hold
[59:03] Speaker 3: back voice your needs your love your desires because life
[59:08] Speaker 3: is short say what is stuck in your throat.
[59:13] Speaker 2: So that's that piece.
[59:14] Speaker 3: That's my one real big takeaway from my love journey
[59:18] Speaker 3: with Ant.
[59:19] Speaker 2: It's like to be bold and say the things.
[59:21] Speaker 1: Say it.
[59:22] Speaker 2: Say it.
[59:24] Speaker 3: But a key piece of what kept G.I. Joe and
[59:27] Speaker 3: I really connected while we were doing Long Distance was
[59:31] Speaker 3: was dirty talking.
[59:32] Speaker 2: Yes.
[59:35] Speaker 3: And I believe that this is a really key thing
[59:39] Speaker 3: for initiating and for keeping a little ember burning in
[59:44] Speaker 3: a relationship.
[59:45] Speaker 1: Yes.
[59:45] Speaker 3: We're not very good at flirting in our society. We're
[59:48] Speaker 3: too shy for that. But dirty talk is a really
[59:51] Speaker 3: good segue into flirting.
[59:54] Speaker 2: So I think we could all just upskill a little bit.
[59:57] Speaker 2: If you don't have a partner... To dirty text, dirty
[1:00:01] Speaker 2: text your friend.
[1:00:02] Speaker 1: Yeah, great.
[1:00:02] Speaker 2: To see what happens.
[1:00:03] Speaker 1: Yeah, great.
[1:00:04] Speaker 2: Let it get weird. Yeah, totally.
[1:00:05] Speaker 1: You know? Also, just download Tinder for the day and
[1:00:08] Speaker 1: get someone on there. Just message them and be like, hey,
[1:00:11] Speaker 1: I need to do some dirty talk. What? Take your
[1:00:13] Speaker 1: fucking pants off. Wait, what?
[1:00:15] Speaker 2: What's your name?
[1:00:16] Speaker 1: Where do you live?
[1:00:18] Speaker 2: Yes, I love it.
[1:00:19] Speaker 3: I love it because it can maintain erotic connection, you know,
[1:00:23] Speaker 3: when you're apart, that sexual tension. and desire, it's so
[1:00:26] Speaker 3: easy for it to peter out. So this just, like,
[1:00:29] Speaker 3: ignites the flame by creating the anticipation, the arousal, and fantasy,
[1:00:33] Speaker 3: which is, I think, important as well. It doesn't necessarily
[1:00:36] Speaker 3: have to be things that you actually are going to
[1:00:39] Speaker 3: do to them because this is.
[1:00:40] Speaker 2: All just, like, promises, promises.
[1:00:41] Speaker 1: Oh, yeah, totally.
[1:00:42] Speaker 3: You know? Yeah, so it builds the anticipation and sexual
[1:00:45] Speaker 3: tension and it also increases the emotional intimacy because you
[1:00:49] Speaker 3: quite often have to be vulnerable about what you actually
[1:00:52] Speaker 3: do want, right?
[1:00:54] Speaker 2: You know?
[1:00:54] Speaker 1: I've gotten better at it because I used to get
[1:00:56] Speaker 1: so embarrassed.
[1:00:58] Speaker 2: Did you?
[1:00:59] Speaker 1: Yeah, that's that vulnerable side when you have to say, like,
[1:01:01] Speaker 1: I want to do this, this, this, this, or this
[1:01:05] Speaker 1: is what I'm fantasizing about. That's a vulnerable thing to share.
[1:01:08] Speaker 2: It is because you could be rejected. You could have
[1:01:10] Speaker 2: your yum yucked.
[1:01:11] Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, exactly. And we don't do that here.
[1:01:13] Speaker 2: We do not do that.
[1:01:14] Speaker 1: God, no.
[1:01:14] Speaker 2: So, yeah, it is.
[1:01:15] Speaker 3: But every time that you do those little pieces of vulnerability,
[1:01:19] Speaker 3: that does increase the emotional intimacy. So this is good.
[1:01:23] Speaker 3: You can all sort of do it your own way,
[1:01:24] Speaker 3: but I just think the easiest way is out of
[1:01:27] Speaker 3: the blue, something like, I've been fantasizing about you all day.
[1:01:31] Speaker 3: It's a great opener, good little starter. If you're in
[1:01:35] Speaker 3: a long-term relationship, I want you to take control tonight.
[1:01:39] Speaker 1: Okay.
[1:01:40] Speaker 3: You have the most irresistible touch. I love the way
[1:01:46] Speaker 3: you make me feel so desired.
[1:01:47] Speaker 2: This one's for you, Hayley.
[1:01:51] Speaker 3: Yeah.
[1:01:52] Speaker 2: I can't wait to taste you.
[1:01:53] Speaker 1: Fuck, I love that so much. Thank you.
[1:02:00] Speaker 2: Yep, yep.
[1:02:01] Speaker 3: And it goes on and on and on. Like, I'm
[1:02:03] Speaker 3: craving your deep, passionate kisses. I want to feel your
[1:02:06] Speaker 3: hands all over me. You know how to drive me wild.
[1:02:08] Speaker 1: Oh, my God. And if you dry up and you're like, oh,
[1:02:10] Speaker 1: my God, I don't know what to say, fucking Google it. Oh,
[1:02:12] Speaker 1: my God, absolutely.
[1:02:13] Speaker 2: Just go and Google it.
[1:02:13] Speaker 1: And then people will be like, here you go. Cosmopolitan's
[1:02:15] Speaker 1: probably got 20 million fucking... Exactly. You know, filthy messages
[1:02:19] Speaker 1: to send your partner. That's right.
[1:02:20] Speaker 2: That's just from my little stash. Yeah, that's yours. You
[1:02:23] Speaker 2: can keep going. Yeah.
[1:02:25] Speaker 3: So I want you to do that and then I
[1:02:26] Speaker 3: want to see what happens after that.
[1:02:28] Speaker 2: Yeah, great.
[1:02:29] Speaker 3: Okay.
[1:02:30] Speaker 1: Okay, love this.
[1:02:31] Speaker 2: All right, team.
[1:02:32] Speaker 3: Well, it's been a bit of a heavy one today,
[1:02:34] Speaker 3: but thank you for journeying with me.
[1:02:36] Speaker 2: Yes, and don't forget to tell them you love them.
[1:02:38] Speaker 2: Like I love you guys. Aw, love you too, boo.
[1:02:42] Speaker 2: Love you.
[1:02:43] Speaker 1: Rachel had to turn her back on. Everyone's like, wow,
[1:02:45] Speaker 1: this is awkward. Rachel, Rachel, stay back.
[1:02:48] Speaker 2: My mic's not on. And love you, listeners. Yeah, thanks.
[1:02:52] Speaker 2: Thanks all. See you next week.

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