# KAT Could Get Traded, Wemby’s Next Step, Tony Allen & Z-Bo’s Grit-and-Grind Blueprint | KG CERTIFIED

An episode of [KG Certified](https://invisiblenetwork.ai/podcast/1681173392), 16 Oct 2026, 1 h 02 min.

Audio: https://traffic.megaphone.fm/DFT5458134415.mp3

Zach Randolph and Tony Allen pull up to KG CERTIFIED for an OUT THE MUD crossover packed with real talk about the Knicks, KAT’s contract and whether New York could actually trade its championship big man. KG, Z-Bo and TA also break down LeBron’s move to Philly, Steph Curry leaving money on the table and what Wemby must change after coming up short in the Finals. The crew gets into the brotherhood that powered Memphis’ Grit-and-Grind era, how Z-Bo helped unlock Marc Gasol’s confidence and why today’s players may not be preparing their bodies for an 82-game season. Plus: KG reflects on his Minnesota jersey retirement, the guys pick their breakout players and surprise teams, and KG explains why he has the Timberwolves coming out of the West. 0:00 Cold open and welcome 1:00 Shout-outs and a happy birthday to Paul 2:36 The craziest offseason moves: Giannis to Miami, LeBron to Philly 3:20 Can LeBron play Robin? 8:58 Conditioning and mental toughness: Pat Riley’s drills, Michigan State, the Jail Blazers 12:30 Teams to watch in the East: Utah, Washington and Toronto 14:19 Will AD play 50+ games? The 65-game All-NBA rule 17:05 Rookie watch: Boozer and the young guns 18:46 Small ball takes over: Wolves, Spurs and Portland’s guard play 22:57 Grit n’ Grind: leadership, Memphis and mentoring Marc Gasol 26:45 Minnesota Timberwolves: LaMelo, Ant, Jaden McDaniels and Defensive Player of the Year Call 31:04 Charlotte without LaMelo: Knueppel, Brandon Miller and working on ones 34:15 The Knicks’ money situation: Brunson’s discount, Dolan and the KAT trade talk 39:08 Steph’s two-year extension and the Warriors’ window 43:49 The loaded West and the Spurs’ guard play 44:33 The Spurs’ mindset after the Finals loss and the short summer 48:01 What to watch in preseason 49:48 The big 21 going up: KG’s jersey retirement in Minnesota 53:22 Predictions: who elevates most (Scottie Barnes, the rookies, Cade, Haliburton) 56:35 Who shocks people this season: Utah, the Knicks’ repeat chances, OKC’s rookie 1:00:20 Closing thoughts Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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