# $40 Trillion National Debt (And Some Important Context)

An episode of [The Psychology of Money with Morgan Housel](https://invisiblenetwork.ai/podcast/1675310669), 28 Aug 2026, 18 min.

Audio: https://traffic.megaphone.fm/APO1226546030.mp3

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