# Judginess

An episode of [Sunday Sanctuary with Petra Bagust](https://invisiblenetwork.ai/podcast/1674045234), 25 Jul 2026, 1 h 05 min.

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Judging others is something we all do, and we all want to do less often! "But how!?" we hear you cry! To begin our exploration of the root of judginess and what we can do tomove past it, Petra has spoken to a crack duo of guests. First up is former Stuff visual journalist, Abigail Dougherty. Abigail describes for Petra how she learnt the need to put aside judgement in her job as a journalist and how her faith has allowed her to keep a more open mind. Next up is Dr Graham Redding, the Douglas Goodfellow lecturer in Chaplaincy Studies at the University of Otago. Graham explores God's judgement of people and whether His character is actually different between the Old Testament and the New Testament of the Bible. If you're interested, here is Abigail's portfolio Sacred texts: This scene from Ted Lasso where Ted plays darts against former AFC Richmond owner, Rupert. Music: You are the Gold by Terrible Sons (theme song) Grazing in the Grass by Hugh Masekela Peace Blossom Boogie by Babe Rainbow You're So Vain by Carly Simon Tumutumu Mauga by SANGUINE Changes by David Bowie Equipoise by Max Roach

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