# Todd Muller on the pressure of politics

An episode of [Sunday Sanctuary with Petra Bagust](https://invisiblenetwork.ai/podcast/1674045234), 18 Mar 2023, 13 min.

Audio: https://traffic.omny.fm/d/clips/d5d8b1d2-6c31-48c0-8625-a959004fd8f1/5058b92d-47e7-4054-bf1b-afae01697bb9/7d9c667e-42fd-4abf-ac10-afc9016052e3/audio.mp3?utm_source=Podcast&in_playlist=f40ab0a6-0fa2-44f7-b8fc-afae016afb12

Todd Muller joined Petra to chat about the pressure that comes with politics. Their conversation touched on the scale of the job of National leader and the challenges he faced.

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