# Should private banks create most of our money? ft. Thomas Bollen

An episode of [Money & Macro Talks](https://invisiblenetwork.ai/podcast/1673305791), 21 Nov 2025, 1 h 30 min.

Audio: https://anchor.fm/s/b3b74f7c/podcast/play/111504985/https%3A%2F%2Fd3ctxlq1ktw2nl.cloudfront.net%2Fstaging%2F2025-10-21%2F412903984-44100-2-d0091890c155a.mp3

In this episode, I talk to financial journalist Thomas Bollen about how to reform our monetary financial system to reduce the need for bailouts. Check out Thomas's book in Dutch here: Geld genoeg, maar niet voor jou, Thomas Bollen | 9789083398679 | Boeken | bolOr his work on mapping the monetary system: Waterworks of Money

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