# His Man 4 Episodes 8-9 Recap, Can I Sleep in the Middle Tonight?

An episode of [Boys Love Boys Love](https://invisiblenetwork.ai/podcast/1669479030), 27 Mar 2026, 46 min.

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## Transcript

[0:00] I think you and Jay is the most BL coded character.
[0:04] Oh and when he holds his hand you and Jay is like Oh my God,
[0:07] what am I doing and crazy Oh my God, I'm so.
[0:10] Crazy the girl. It's the girl with the bag of
[0:12] her head. Welcome back to another episode
[0:21] of Boys Love, Boys Love. This week we are recapping his
[0:25] band. 4 episodes, 8:00 and 9:00. And as always, I'm Adam.
[0:29] And I'm RJ, welcome back. Welcome.
[0:31] Back how are you I'm. Good.
[0:34] You're good. I'm.
[0:35] Good. OK, some comments how's your
[0:37] career class is going? Kunye Kunyang It's OK so so
[0:45] Hyojusim did say I need to memorize my vocab.
[0:48] I was like, yeah, I just need to yawn so harder and she was like,
[0:51] no, you need to memorize you need to know the words take that
[0:55] mask off. This is a loop sync competition.
[0:57] You need to know the. Words.
[0:58] Oh you, you tried to keep the mask on?
[1:00] I tried to keep. Mask diverting her attention to
[1:02] to be like to practicing. Yeah, I was like, I just, I
[1:06] really need to practice. And she's like, no.
[1:08] No. That's not true.
[1:10] That's not true, Ellen. Well, that's not true, Ellen.
[1:11] OK, Episode 7, some thoughts on the Korean food discussion
[1:15] because that really, Yeah. When you live in a place where
[1:19] there's a clear division between local food and foreign food,
[1:21] local food is seen as like work day lunch, and foreign food is
[1:25] like cool, fun food. So saying I like Korean food
[1:29] comes off, says we don't have to go to the Italian restaurant for
[1:33] a date. Oh, OK, that makes sense.
[1:35] Yeah, I think I've heard it. Oh, no, I guess that's right.
[1:38] Yeah, I think I've heard it though in context where it
[1:40] didn't seem like it was date focused.
[1:42] But that makes sense though. I think it's because western
[1:46] fruit is trendy so I feel maybe down to earth is how you being
[1:50] more down to earth is like I prefer.
[1:51] Well, you know, we were watching Battle of Faith.
[1:53] Well, don't worry, there's comments about faith.
[1:56] They all better be positive. There was a girl who is like a
[2:00] Chinese like chef, Chinese chef. And then I was like, oh, right.
[2:05] Because there's like a really big, like, a lot of people like
[2:08] to go get Chinese food specifically, like Korean
[2:10] Chinese food or like obviously Japanese food is really big,
[2:15] yeah. Maybe I'm projecting, but Tai
[2:18] Chi seems to be one of those people who can't fall in love
[2:20] with someone unless there's strong chemistry right in front
[2:22] of this. Right from the start.
[2:25] We'll. Talk about Tai Chi.
[2:26] Though Yeah, yeah, I'm personally like that.
[2:28] I find it so hard to start a relationship with someone if I'm
[2:30] not basically head over heels or at least have a huge crush on
[2:33] them. Otherwise romantic feelings
[2:35] never really come, even when there's initial attraction.
[2:37] The way he's expressing his change of heart reminded me of
[2:40] that because it's always very awkward to explain to someone
[2:42] why you don't want to go on more dates for them even though
[2:45] nothing wrong has. Happened, right?
[2:47] This is hard. This one is.
[2:50] That one was this one. Is hard for me to understand
[2:52] genuinely because I married my best friend so we were friends
[2:57] for multiple years before we got together.
[2:59] So I don't have a problem of like, I, I I don't feel the
[3:06] same, yeah, but yeah. And finally, Adam, I'm down for
[3:10] the Faiths recap. I may just start watching based
[3:12] off your little snippet. And you should, Mama.
[3:15] It's we're about to watch the finale and.
[3:18] It's going to be an event where it's like we have to make no
[3:20] plans. We have to sit here and watch
[3:23] this finale please. One of them is going to get
[3:25] possessed. I know that's you guys going to
[3:27] be an exorcism, guys. Mama, this is cinema.
[3:30] Yes, please do a Battle of Fates recap.
[3:33] Divas, please do the Battle of Fates.
[3:36] I need that recap. These are all different
[3:38] comments. Yes, those are three different
[3:40] people. So you only asked for one and
[3:42] you got 3, so I think. Oh, we're.
[3:44] Booked I you know what? Oh.
[3:48] My God, this. I don't like this is this isn't
[3:50] going on way too long. Just stay tuned, Maybe, maybe,
[3:55] maybe come more snippets and conversation may come up.
[4:00] Great. Keep us in my water.
[4:03] Oh yeah, yeah. But anyway, let's talk about his
[4:07] man. Let's.
[4:08] Talk about his man. So we left.
[4:10] They were about to eliminate people.
[4:13] They have to rank people. Well, the idea is to rank them
[4:18] from the person you're most interested in to the person
[4:20] you're least interested in. Some people don't do that.
[4:25] Some people don't like that. So Hyunjun said he just like
[4:28] threw away his vote basically and just kind of randomly chose
[4:32] people. Hyungjun said that he didn't
[4:36] want to do it based on who he liked.
[4:39] He voted based on the people who liked him.
[4:44] So that way he like which stick around basically which.
[4:49] That doesn't surprise me. For him.
[4:53] I, I I. What a fascinating.
[4:57] We don't know these people in real life.
[4:59] I do always like to remind people of this.
[5:00] That's true. I.
[5:01] We are adjacent to one. We do know one.
[5:04] Well, we, yeah, but even when we're covering it, we didn't
[5:06] know him. We didn't know him.
[5:07] Yeah, we knew him after. Yeah, and we made some jokes
[5:11] that David suspense on that season don't.
[5:13] Before we knew him, yeah, absolutely.
[5:15] And I would still make those same jokes today.
[5:18] 'Cause they're they were true. They were funny.
[5:20] And they ended up being real. But I, I.
[5:27] He's a he's a tough self. He's a tough cookie.
[5:30] He is a tough cookie. There is also he just has this
[5:33] energy on the show where it's like, I wish I wasn't here.
[5:36] And I'm like. Or like that's I guess the how,
[5:39] how I'm perceiving his just like he they go On this date with me
[5:43] and he like looks like he doesn't want to be like he's
[5:46] like embarrassed to be there to some extent.
[5:48] He's like, I wish I'm so tired. I wish I could just stay at
[5:51] home. Yeah.
[5:54] This is Mama. Two people just left.
[5:56] The end of episode 9 I think is like a good, like OK, we're
[5:59] turning, yes, we're turning the ship around.
[6:03] But 8 and most of nine I was like am I having a good time?
[6:10] Are people OK? They're what's going on?
[6:16] Yeah, it everyone's going through it, and it's not
[6:19] necessarily the most entertaining to watch.
[6:21] No. Because they're just kind of
[6:25] like coming to realizations that like we kind of already saw that
[6:29] was going to happen. So it was they were all, there
[6:31] was a very conversation heavy pair of episodes, but they were
[6:34] all conversations that needed to happen.
[6:37] I would. Say yes, yes, yes, that's true.
[6:44] I I did finally feel killing. Oh.
[6:49] At the end of episode 9. Yeah, me too.
[6:51] That that so I I finally feel like I watched something where I
[6:55] was like, I don't know. But then I was like, but I don't
[6:59] know if it's going to. End up going there, it didn't
[7:01] feel. I'm not hopeful, but we got the
[7:04] moment. Yeah, so who?
[7:08] Goes home. Yeah, we'll get.
[7:10] To We'll get to all of them. Who goes home?
[7:13] OK, the votes have been tabulated and Steve Kornacki is
[7:20] at the whiteboard explaining. And, he says, the projected
[7:24] losers. The projected losers are in 11th
[7:28] place Jayha and in 10th place Little Hukjin.
[7:32] Yeah, I'm not surprised. I know I said that I was scared
[7:35] for little Hukjin and Sumin. Those were that room that.
[7:40] Room was definitely yes, but the Jayha thing makes total sense.
[7:44] Jayha did not make any effort with anyone else.
[7:47] Yeah, let's do a little post mortem on.
[7:49] Yes, yeah, their performance, yeah, Jay had was only there for
[7:52] one person, which like if you didn't know he was coming, right
[7:56] once again we're talking about this.
[7:57] But once he saw that he's coming in and it.
[8:00] Ends in the last. Time once he knew that he was
[8:03] there, he just focused in on him and he's like, that's it, I'm
[8:06] getting him back. But it's like, right.
[8:08] But once again, yeah, it goes back to the like, why did you
[8:11] come back? Obviously he's gonna think
[8:13] that's why so right And even he doesn't have a clear answer.
[8:19] No one. A lot of people don't have clear
[8:22] answers on the show. Yep, that's something you've
[8:25] learned. So it does not surprise me that
[8:28] he was the last one because yeah, made no effort.
[8:33] I think this was fine. I was fine with this.
[8:35] I felt no sadness about this departure.
[8:40] He got to do the thing he wanted to do, which was come back and
[8:43] come out. So there you go and.
[8:45] You're out and you're out. Now let's talk about.
[8:54] I just felt really and like there were moments where he was
[8:57] really trying to keep it together and then he just
[9:00] couldn't hold it anymore. And swimming in Sonica, Like,
[9:04] comforted. He's like 21.
[9:06] Yeah. He is.
[9:09] He tried. He tried in the show, yeah.
[9:14] He actively sought, tried to like, you know, whatever, did a
[9:20] whole whole week at the last shoot.
[9:24] Yeah. And was just rejected at every
[9:27] turn and then was sent home. Was sent packing.
[9:31] What's your packing? He said that he just felt like
[9:35] he looked so pitiful and I feel. I just feel like he was also so
[9:40] aware of how this is going to play and like that he tried so
[9:44] hard to rewrite it. So getting eliminated on a
[9:48] dating show that isn't Love Island, where it's so gamified
[9:53] anyway. Right, right.
[9:55] Is like I don't I don't know if I want them to ever do this
[9:59] again. It's like, yeah, it's like going
[10:02] to camp and then just being told your vibe was just off so we
[10:06] have to send you home. Your vibes were rancid.
[10:09] You have to leave. You smell you.
[10:12] Smell you stick at home. You have to leave.
[10:16] This is when I actually went to summer camp when I was little
[10:19] and I left halfway through the week because I miss my mom so.
[10:26] Much and Nan, we love you. This is a bummer.
[10:31] It was. It was.
[10:32] OK, here's a question. Also, there is like a clear
[10:35] cultural difference. This is like the strongest
[10:39] cultural difference I've felt. Where, No, he was crying and no
[10:43] one wanted to say like, I'm so sorry, it's gonna be OK, don't
[10:47] worry about it. Like, it doesn't mean anything,
[10:49] blah, blah, blah. Suman literally was staring at
[10:51] both of them who just got eliminated.
[10:53] And he was like, I had to keep it together.
[10:54] I couldn't comfort them 'cause I knew that would be like pitying
[10:57] them. Yes, it is perceived in a
[11:00] different way. Yeah.
[11:01] Whereas like here, if I was crying and you just stared at
[11:05] me. I know.
[11:05] I would be like. I would buy a gun.
[11:08] I would like to buy a gun please.
[11:10] I would get so mad. I would be irate if you ignored
[11:13] me because it would feel like you were ignoring me.
[11:16] Yeah. Not that you were.
[11:17] Not that. It's like we got to talk about
[11:21] the elephant in the room. I'm crying Diva.
[11:23] I'm crying. You just eliminated me.
[11:25] Right. And and it didn't, Heuchin
[11:29] multiple times said like, I know it's not their fault.
[11:32] Yes, it's how the show is set up.
[11:33] Like they had to choose someone like da da da da da.
[11:36] It's like, I'm not mad at them. I don't regret like blah, blah,
[11:40] blah, blah, blah. But still, like it feels bad.
[11:43] It feels really bad to be in a group of gay guys who are
[11:49] sensibly somebody's supposed to like you and it clearly nobody
[11:52] does. That sucks.
[11:56] I felt really bad for him. I did too.
[11:59] There's better things in your future though.
[12:02] And you gained 2 followers on Instagram.
[12:04] Hyuk Chin. We'll get you in a BL, don't
[12:07] you? Don't you worry, we'll get you
[12:09] in one. OK.
[12:11] I guess I would the one thing I was going to ask was is 21 too
[12:16] young or will it just always be the luck of the draw?
[12:20] If you are the Monet in a Korean dating show, especially a gay
[12:24] one where they care so much about age.
[12:27] I feel like way more than in a in a straight one in the ones
[12:32] that I've noticed. Yeah.
[12:34] I have nothing to compare it to. Yeah.
[12:38] A We do not focus on age the same way here that they do
[12:41] there, obviously. But all the monies.
[12:45] But it's it's a constant through line of this show.
[12:48] 'S of this show specifically. I'm curious if it happened on
[12:50] together. Yeah.
[12:54] Do you do they know? Do you all sit together or to
[12:56] get her? I get that that's the the pin,
[13:00] the pun pun, the planned words, but how do you pronounce it
[13:04] anyway? I wonder if that was the same on
[13:06] together, if there was like a oh, I don't want to be with the
[13:08] youngest. There's like a burden that the
[13:10] others feel of being like not the youngest.
[13:15] Your God. But I wonder if it's like a gay
[13:17] thing of like we all once you get older, it just gets more
[13:21] exhausting the idea of dating someone because you can only
[13:26] think of like when I was your age, I was a mess and I didn't
[13:30] really know what I wanted or something like.
[13:32] That there's no way I could date someone who is 21 I don't think.
[13:38] But I'm also recently 34 so. That age gap's too big, yeah.
[13:46] That age gap's too big, but if I was like 28 I think I'd would.
[13:54] I would you, I that's the thing. I feel like at 20.
[13:57] It's so weird 'cause like I just have never.
[13:59] But it's so funny, 'cause you get to, I feel like if you're
[14:02] 28, you're getting close to 30. That's when you first realize
[14:06] that us in our young 20s were like, oh, we had no idea what
[14:10] the fuck we were doing. Yes.
[14:11] And then you get to 30 and then you're like, I had no idea what
[14:14] I was doing all of my 20s. Yes, but there's also something
[14:17] you have to remember, which is the younger they are, the more
[14:19] likely they haven't done their military service yet.
[14:22] So you're also signing up potentially if like things work?
[14:25] If things work out, yeah, you're.
[14:26] Signing up to be a a military wife for a year and a half or
[14:31] whatever. Yeah, which that is a kind of,
[14:33] that's a big thing on exchange, which is like all they all talk
[14:37] about how like it's really hard when they go away.
[14:38] Yeah, they do. Exchange change days like.
[14:41] It's a true test of the. It's a it's a burden for sure.
[14:46] And then for in exchange, like the people who stay through the
[14:50] military and then when they break up, it's like it's almost
[14:54] like they stay because it's like, well, I stayed with you
[14:58] all that time, so I'm sure we can work this.
[15:00] Out and it's like, no, Nope, sorry.
[15:07] Yeah. I, I mean, I kind of think no
[15:10] matter what they do, there's always going to be a youngest.
[15:14] Whoever will be the youngest will.
[15:15] Always, unless they cast. They purposely go out of their
[15:18] way to cast like all 25 year olds.
[15:20] One year, right? Like, OK, sure, but I think
[15:24] they're probably pretty limited in the pool of people they have
[15:28] to choose from. Yeah, I can't imagine they're
[15:31] getting swaths of applications for this show.
[15:35] I'm sure they're getting a lot more than, you know, the 11
[15:37] people that are here. Yeah, but do you think hundreds?
[15:41] Over 100 sure. I believe over 100.
[15:44] I don't even know if it would be over 200 and I think over 100 is
[15:49] probably like stretching it. My guess is they probably have
[15:51] like 96 applications. I mean, they brought back a
[15:58] former contested, but so did the boyfriend.
[16:02] So there you go. There you go, fan favorite fan.
[16:08] Favorite. All right, let's talk about
[16:11] these dates. First date is Tai chi picking
[16:14] hangyo. And he wasn't even feeling it at
[16:18] all. OK, so he picks him and then
[16:22] later complaints that he was like, I kind of really wanted to
[16:24] pick Min Song to which I immediately was like what?
[16:29] And then he. Saw the triple date.
[16:30] There was no chemistry. And then he talks to Minsong and
[16:33] it's like, I kind of want to pick someone else.
[16:36] Not necessarily that I have like strong chemistry with them, but
[16:40] I they, I got Curry. He doesn't say curious because
[16:45] Minsong is like, it's not a crime if you pick someone that
[16:48] you're curious about. And Tai Chi was like, well, it's
[16:50] not that I'm curious about. Like it's just that.
[16:52] They were interested about them. That's that's curiosity, Mama.
[16:59] He he regrets basically picking Hango, but because he already
[17:02] said let's go on a proper day after the disastrous yoga.
[17:06] Yeah. So they go.
[17:08] Which was again yesterday, by the way.
[17:12] We're in. We're in week four of the week.
[17:15] 5 of this recap and four days have passed.
[17:21] We're just now getting to day four anyway, so they go to the
[17:26] beach, they go on a walk and then they sit and look at the
[17:31] waves. And they have.
[17:32] The budget this year for these dates is $0.00.
[17:38] It's nothing. They have no money.
[17:40] They spent all of it on the first shoot.
[17:44] They go on this walk, they sit down.
[17:47] There's like this really long pause where they're don't talk
[17:51] and then Tai, she's like, So what do you talk about on dates?
[17:55] Oh my God. I literally, if I was talking,
[17:58] I'll be like, I'm just going to go.
[18:01] I'm just going to go. Why did you pick me?
[18:03] You already lied saying that you weren't awkward.
[18:07] It's clear that you are. It is fascinating that Hangil is
[18:11] so sure of his feelings. Yes, Hangil is so attuned to
[18:16] what he feels because he's like, Yep, you're still my number one
[18:20] choice. I still like you the most.
[18:22] Even when it's clear that Tai Chi's about to drop a bomb and
[18:25] be like it's it's a no, He's he still like confirms like this is
[18:31] how I feel in this moment as I speak to you right now.
[18:34] They're like doing this, like, let's talk about like, let's
[18:37] just like candidly ask each other questions.
[18:39] And Hangel is like asking stuff to get to know Tai chi and Tai
[18:42] Chi is asking, so who else do you like?
[18:46] It was The Who else do you like? Any other options?
[18:49] That would have sent me over the edge.
[18:51] There would have been a body found in the ocean.
[18:54] Right after that question I I am listen.
[18:59] It's frustrating to watch it because like like that comment
[19:02] said, it's not like nothing anything wrong happened and Tai
[19:05] Chi does say it. He's like, just I saw the other
[19:10] people was were interested in you and then we got separated in
[19:13] the rooms and then I got sick and there's all these things
[19:17] that just led me to like, not like you as much anymore.
[19:21] Not to the fault of you or me. It just that's how it is.
[19:27] I mean, that's and and Tai Chi, I mean the patience of a of a
[19:30] statue because he was just like, OK, he was like, I noticed that
[19:36] you, you, you are I I get the vibe.
[19:39] I feel it. Don't want it.
[19:41] Don't worry, I got it. I would.
[19:43] I kind of wanted Han Gil to be like, oh, so you lied to me
[19:46] yesterday. He didn't.
[19:50] He was better than me. And then that's kind of it for
[19:54] the date they they finally officially talk it out.
[19:57] Tai Chi basically just makes it clear, like yes, it's a it's
[20:00] there's nowhere to go from here. That's and that's honestly the,
[20:03] he says. There's other people he is
[20:04] interested in, which I'm like. I who?
[20:08] I have no idea. He mentioned Minsang, but again,
[20:11] he wasn't like, I think I'm into minsang.
[20:14] Is it just that he wants to be with whoever he's rooming with
[20:17] whoever he's sleeping next to? Is that what's going on?
[20:20] Maybe I have no clue who you. Would we know that in the old
[20:24] shoe it was sun? Sun, yes, but sunnock is, I mean
[20:28] we've they're set apparently so. Fascinating.
[20:32] I don't, I listen, I think Tai Chi and I are different people
[20:36] and you know, just a just a few ways just.
[20:39] A couple ways. Yeah, we're both great
[20:41] performers. I think that's that's clear.
[20:45] But I think that like it's OK. I think it it, there's like a
[20:50] fine line. It is OK to go on a show and be
[20:53] like true to your feelings, be like, I don't like you.
[20:55] I don't think you should push it and try to like, like someone
[20:58] you don't really like or like whatever.
[21:00] Like, I don't think that's a good idea.
[21:02] Yeah. However, I think maybe just a
[21:07] note from this season and maybe even last season and maybe kind
[21:11] of all Four Seasons is when casting this show, looking at
[21:16] that, those 96 applications, interviewing these people, kind
[21:21] of really trying to figure out who is going to be most willing
[21:25] to like. Try.
[21:27] Open up to whatever the possibility is, because that I
[21:32] think is a distinct frustration I have with this show is like.
[21:36] When people shut down or like are set, they're closed for
[21:39] business, Yes, and it's like. And I think part of it is like,
[21:43] it is 7 days. So they're like, it's just
[21:45] seven. It's seven days of my life.
[21:47] For us, it's 8 weeks, OK? It's eight weeks of our lives.
[21:52] Watching you do the same thing over and over and over.
[21:56] Yeah, that would be one thing I would note.
[21:58] But yeah, it seems like that. So we're we're at the end of the
[22:00] line. Yeah, Tai Chi was like something
[22:02] about staring at the water. That's the dangers of the the
[22:05] liminal space of water. It could go one way, it could go
[22:09] the other. So.
[22:11] The The water bringeth in, the water taketh away.
[22:16] And she sure did. OK, next date was Hyung Joon who
[22:20] picked Minsung to go on a date with.
[22:23] As we remember from last week, Hyung Joon and Jai Ha held hands
[22:29] during Jenga and Minsung lost his mind.
[22:33] Remember. And I was like, what?
[22:37] So we were like. Because it doesn't talking head
[22:41] we hear an over we hear a voice over of him being like I was so
[22:45] mad. Now I'm gonna I only I only
[22:50] bring that up because. You think it's an editing thing
[22:52] of like? I just think when he said that
[22:55] it was after he found things out.
[22:58] Later. Yeah, OK, OK.
[23:00] In this episode, he finally gets the tea from Tai Chi before the
[23:04] date the night before. Tai Chi's like, oh, he didn't
[23:08] tell you they like. Dated.
[23:09] They picked each. Other they picked each other in
[23:10] the last they dated before this. Then we go On this date.
[23:14] Minsung is like very annoyed but also he likes.
[23:20] It's very clear he likes Hyung Jun.
[23:22] Well, he's mad because the night of the elimination he goes and
[23:27] tries to talk to Hyung Jun and he walks in on Hyung Jun and
[23:31] Jihad, basically saying goodbye to each other.
[23:34] Right, which that was its own thing.
[23:36] I almost didn't even want to bring it up because Jay has not
[23:39] on the show anymore. So like me being annoyed that
[23:43] young June was like, I can't believe I I didn't actually give
[23:47] him the chance that he was begging for when babe.
[23:52] OK. Anyway, I don't want to give it
[23:55] any time. But it is important.
[23:57] Because on the show. But that's what make that's that
[23:59] was the reason why Minsong is mad because he sees them.
[24:03] Just sitting on bed talking. To him, but like Jay had his arm
[24:06] around him and that was very much like.
[24:08] And they all make eye contact and they hold it for like 3
[24:11] seconds and then he leaves and no one it's not like he gets
[24:13] chased after be like let me explain that doesn't happen.
[24:17] So they go On this date, their date is to back into Seoul and
[24:23] they OK the show, teased us. And said with.
[24:29] Them going to a Saju tarot card reader?
[24:32] Because they knew we'd been watching Battle of Fates.
[24:34] And then they don't, they don't show it.
[24:37] And I think that is a crime. I think you should.
[24:42] Now don't tell me they. Didn't.
[24:44] Don't tell me. Don't tell me they.
[24:45] Didn't just say they went on a little window shopping date.
[24:48] Fine. They went to Meongdong or
[24:50] whatever, wherever they went, fine.
[24:53] I was so annoyed. Because I was sitting there
[24:56] being like, Oh my God, is Choi Hana about to show up?
[25:00] One of our beloved fortune tellers?
[25:02] Yeah, one of our beloved tarot readers.
[25:04] Is Monad going to come out in your way?
[25:06] Monad. These are all people you would
[25:09] know if you watch Bella Plates. OK, so fine, we don't see it.
[25:16] They go window shopping, they buy little trinkets.
[25:19] It's cute. Then they go to a restaurant and
[25:22] sit down and like finally men songs.
[25:24] Like I have to really bring it up.
[25:26] And he brings it up like it is a performance review at work.
[25:30] He is like, OK, and then this happened and then this happened
[25:33] and I was just. Now before we got confirmation
[25:36] of what the real reason he was mad is because he just kept
[25:38] being like, I was so mad. I'm so.
[25:40] Mad Adam was mad. I was mad that he was mad
[25:43] because I was like, why? Are you mad?
[25:45] There's no reason for you to be mad.
[25:46] And then I said, the only reason you would have that I would be
[25:50] fine with is if the reason you're mad is because he didn't
[25:54] tell you himself about what was going on, right?
[25:57] And then we come to find out that's the reason.
[25:59] He was. That is why, yes.
[26:00] Does get a pass from me. Thank you very much.
[26:02] Yes, he's very specifically like you said, you weren't interested
[26:05] in anyone and then I all of a sudden and I had to hear it from
[26:09] other people of what happened last shoot.
[26:14] Right, I thought. Weirdly enough, while I really
[26:18] don't, I don't. I don't really feel anything for
[26:21] them. No, not really.
[26:23] I mean it's. They're clearly, they actually
[26:25] had a really healthy conversation.
[26:26] Yes, they're clearly a match. They have their way of talking
[26:30] to each other. Makes sense to them.
[26:32] Yeah, so hey, I mean the logic train followed.
[26:36] I Minsang explained why he was mad, Chung Ji can explain why.
[26:43] And then the only thing that ended was weird was like Minsang
[26:47] at the end was like. So.
[26:50] So he's done, right? So you're done with him, right?
[26:52] And then young dude. Wouldn't actually answer him.
[26:55] And then, but then they do the thing that I, I don't feel
[26:59] anything about, which is like, Oh my God, he's like a little
[27:01] jealous, which I having dated someone who was like an
[27:06] extremely jealous person, I rebuke that energy.
[27:09] I hate that energy. So it just that all washes over
[27:13] for me. But other than that, I was like,
[27:16] oh wow, they actually. Like actually talked it through,
[27:18] talked about it. And talked it through, yeah,
[27:20] which was nice. That's insane.
[27:21] Minson has said like I am being more proactive this time around,
[27:25] and he is. He's talking about it is.
[27:27] The last night and days his. First season he would go out of
[27:31] his way to avoid conversation. He literally would sleep.
[27:35] All day he barely wanted Yes. And Hyungjung and Hyungjung were
[27:39] like what the where the is Min song?
[27:42] I need to ask him if he likes me.
[27:45] Yep, Yep. Different different show for
[27:50] sure. This is where I was like the way
[27:55] I don't know why I focus on this so much the way Hyung Jun like
[28:02] sit. I know where.
[28:04] It varies. Like it just the feeling I get
[28:08] watching it is that he does not want to be there or he's
[28:10] embarrassed to be there. Yes, yeah, which I guess it
[28:13] could be. It felt really bad at the
[28:15] restaurant, right? Because they're in Seoul.
[28:17] It's a glass wall. There's people in the
[28:19] restaurant. They're probably like.
[28:21] They're being filmed, yeah. Very cognizant that they're
[28:23] being filmed in the city that they live versus like out in
[28:27] like wherever, wherever the show normally takes place.
[28:30] So I'm sure it does feel a little bit different I.
[28:34] Think it's like you, You signed up for this Mama.
[28:37] You already did this. You knew you were going to be
[28:39] the catfish. You knew that if you walked in
[28:42] there, Jay, how's world would be rocked.
[28:45] Yeah. And then he was so surprised.
[28:48] I I didn't realize how much he would express his feelings for
[28:50] me. What else did you think he would
[28:52] do? I mean, he took Jay Ha saying
[28:57] that he wanted to go back as Jay Ha being like, I don't like you
[29:00] when obviously. That's not.
[29:01] I'll just jump back in the. Power how it was intended, I
[29:03] guess. No.
[29:05] Anyway, that was their date. That was.
[29:08] Fine, good for them. And then the other five who
[29:12] don't go on. Dating, I know they finally get
[29:14] to go outside. They get to leave the house,
[29:16] they all go bowling together. This is very fun.
[29:18] I don't really have much to say about it.
[29:20] Suman and Hyukjin are the best bowlers of the group.
[29:26] It's it's really comical how bad Sanuk is.
[29:29] Yeah, that's really funny. It's cute.
[29:33] It's a nice friends date. And it was not.
[29:35] It was nice to do an activity that like got their mind off of
[29:38] being like. And yet again, we're all home
[29:40] alone. Yeah.
[29:41] So that's good. Now here's the real T cuz then I
[29:47] feel like now the tides have turned.
[29:49] Yes, real conversations have happened on the dates.
[29:53] Now we're actually figuring shit out.
[29:55] Yeah. First thing that happens is
[29:58] Suman and Hyukchin finally talk about the thing that was the
[30:03] seed that was planted in episode 1.
[30:05] Where? It's like he hasn't been looking
[30:08] at me, he's been actively avoiding me.
[30:10] So we find out that we started the chin was pursuing Suman in
[30:14] the last shoot and then because of that.
[30:19] Suman rejected him. And rejected him and then like
[30:22] was purposefully being colder toward him this way I think
[30:27] maybe to be like don't don't get it, don't get any ideas so.
[30:30] Yeah. Is probably my guess as to why
[30:33] he was like consciously like. Going out of his.
[30:37] Head he probably was like, well, I don't want to lead him on.
[30:39] Yes, yes. So I'll like be extra like non
[30:42] committal with him, But then obviously it comes off that
[30:44] you're like purposefully ignoring me in a group of
[30:48] people. Well, that's the thing.
[30:49] He'll chin. First of all, Suman is the one
[30:52] that brings it up first. So I think that's very like
[30:55] admirable that he's like, I know that I've been doing this to
[30:57] you, but and I'm glad that Hilton in response is like, I
[31:01] actually was really hurt because on the first day everyone was
[31:05] talking and you wouldn't make eye contact with me and like you
[31:08] were your back would be turned again, like away from.
[31:10] Me he was like the only one talking and he wouldn't he would
[31:12] like actively like turn away from him, which is so weird
[31:16] because I feel like from the suman that we've.
[31:18] Seen we know he's very sweet also motherly caring they.
[31:21] Always talk about how Suman is very different from this season,
[31:24] this shoot to last shoot. I think more in like he's trying
[31:29] harder. I think probably he was a way
[31:31] more passive in the first shoot because he did talk about how he
[31:35] was like, I really want to try to, you know, be more proactive
[31:37] in this one. It's just so weird to me that
[31:42] Suman would be like that because he seems like a couch.
[31:46] All of that, yeah. So sweet.
[31:48] Yeah, caring. He notices the.
[31:51] Ice cream later, like he I know that he just like kind of
[31:54] notices everything. That's the thing and I think
[31:56] that's. Probably why Hilkchen was like
[31:58] more hurt because it's like, it's so clear to me that it's on
[32:02] purpose, Yes, because yeah, you're the type of person you
[32:05] are, Yes. Because the fact that he.
[32:07] Noticed that Hilkchen bought ice cream for Hang Y'all.
[32:11] Like peripherally? Yeah, But it was good that they
[32:17] talked it out. I'm glad like they were able to
[32:19] like put it behind and they're like, able to like kind.
[32:21] Of have banter again. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
[32:24] The bantering. Oh my God.
[32:26] When we get to the U&J hunger next, yes, OK.
[32:29] U&J is. Sitting alone in this jar in
[32:32] house C block, C block all alone in the dark and 100 notices.
[32:36] So he walks over to him and they finally are able to sit down and
[32:39] talk and U&J basically is like. You are still my number one and.
[32:46] I am realizing that I've been too passive and I want to be
[32:49] more proactive, but I just want to know if like there's even a
[32:52] chance or are you pretty set? And in the beginning of the
[32:56] conversation, Hyunjin is like, I would say it's like 7080% sonuk.
[33:02] Yeah, pretty committed. Pretty committed.
[33:05] To the point that he says like I.
[33:06] Don't want to lead you on or I don't want you to, like, keep
[33:12] pursuing me. And then I end up, you end up,
[33:14] like, getting a broken heart over it.
[33:16] Like I don't want to tell you you should keep pursuing me
[33:18] because if I end up choosing someone else, I'll feel bad
[33:21] about it. Yes.
[33:21] Yeah. And I will.
[33:23] Say, for you and Jay, it's like, well, it's not like you're
[33:25] telling me to, it's my personal choice and not right now.
[33:29] You are the only person. So he isn't taking it that way,
[33:32] right? But he does ask again later,
[33:34] like, is it? Is there any chance?
[33:37] I think you and Jay? Is the most BL coded character
[33:42] I've ever seen. He is so main character he gives
[33:46] me. I watch BLI don't.
[33:49] I don't know if he gives. Me that for I mean, maybe he
[33:51] does he he really gives me ball boy tactics.
[33:57] I know he. Just like does like he's like
[34:00] it's. Endearing how he's like no no
[34:04] no, like he like laughs over himself so he laughs.
[34:07] Get out of, get out of situations.
[34:09] But then he'll like puff himself up to like do a brave act.
[34:12] And when he does, he's like, Oh my God, I can't believe I just
[34:15] did that. Yes, when he like when they like
[34:16] hold. Hands.
[34:17] And then his hand. He asks Hyunjin to hold his
[34:19] hand. He's like.
[34:20] Can I hold your hand this? Was this was my crack and they
[34:23] hold hands. Hyunjin is like, OK, sure.
[34:25] And Hyunjin is talking and it's like, I mean, it's whatever,
[34:27] it's not crime, whatever the OK, he says.
[34:30] We are. We aren't not allowed to hold
[34:34] hands. So there's definitely like a
[34:36] rule book of the show being like you can't kiss, you can't.
[34:39] Like there's probably things that they say like you can't do.
[34:42] So he does let him hold his. Hand and when he holds his hand
[34:46] yeah you and Jay is like Oh my God what am I doing I'm crazy Oh
[34:50] my God I'm so crazy the. Girl, it's the girl with the bag
[34:52] and her head. Oh my God, I'm so crazy.
[34:56] He's so you are. It's so.
[34:58] Cute. It's so cute.
[35:01] But then he asked like, is there?
[35:03] A room. Is there room in your heart for
[35:05] me? And then, yeah, that's when.
[35:09] Kanjun is like, I just don't want to like tell you yes.
[35:11] And then I'm pretty set. He's like I.
[35:13] Think I'm pretty set. I'm pretty set and then.
[35:15] You and Jay goes, well, I like you anyway.
[35:18] So I'm kind of keep trying. I just kind of wanted to know
[35:23] what's what, if there was any possibility or if it's cuz he
[35:27] says can I can I should. Start getting ready for a no.
[35:29] Now basically, he says, can I continue to woo?
[35:32] You and then asks to hold his hand again.
[35:35] Again, it's so cute. It was so.
[35:38] Forward and I. Think you know what, honestly,
[35:41] these are the things like, I don't think necessarily you
[35:45] would have to go ahead and hold hands, but like it's the fact
[35:49] that he knows how shy he is. Yes, that it meant so much to
[35:53] him June because he was like, wow, it I could tell that it was
[35:56] like a big act of courage for him to do this and he does like
[36:01] him. Uh huh.
[36:03] Yes, cuz he's like why are you awkward with me?
[36:06] But then like you're so comfortable with Hangil and he's
[36:10] like, well, I only well, they're IST well, both.
[36:13] IC JS, but he's like well, because I'm.
[36:16] Not interested in Hung yo, so I can like banter with him.
[36:19] So what you and Jay says well you can banter with me too.
[36:21] Like I want you to be comfortable like I actually like
[36:24] that too. And then he asks, well, and then
[36:27] he says. If I he there's like something
[36:30] he says where he's like, if I didn't like you or if I was
[36:34] awkward or if I was, I would have left around you.
[36:36] I would like be avoiding you. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
[36:39] So he's like, OK, well don't ignore me.
[36:41] And then you and Jay asks, well, if if you want to be comfortable
[36:47] or if it's OK. Can I switch places with Hangyo?
[36:50] And can I sleep in the middle of the bed?
[36:52] Can I sleep next to you tonight? Basically.
[36:54] Basically. And then Kenji was like.
[36:58] It's whatever you whatever you want.
[37:01] He's like, so I can, you know, like keep talking to you around.
[37:05] The their Yowie proportions. Are really crazy they're I mean
[37:09] like his. I also really like Sonic, so
[37:11] either. Way I'm kind of getting what I
[37:12] need from this. I know that's true, it's just
[37:14] from. From one yowie proportion to
[37:16] another. But you and Jay is like.
[37:19] He is like the lead, yes. Of the drama, Yeah.
[37:24] Yeah. He's very sweet.
[37:25] Do you, what do you think? Is there a?
[37:27] Chance. I don't know.
[37:28] I think it's pretty set, but I I.
[37:32] Just because Sonuk has a. Seven day lead, That's true.
[37:36] He has already broken through. Everything they have, they know
[37:40] what and and Henjin says. It's like we haven't really
[37:44] talked, so I don't even know what type of person you are yet.
[37:46] This is true. We should go and I want to say
[37:48] this. When he said he had 70 to. 80%
[37:54] Sonuk Were you surprised that it was that much?
[37:58] Yes. Because I thought this is what I
[38:00] think cuz I thought he was gonna go in clean slate.
[38:04] Yeah, yeah. Edit wise.
[38:07] In terms of the shows edit, there is a stronger case for you
[38:12] and Jay winning in the end because of how they the editors
[38:17] have set up the story for them so far.
[38:19] It seems like the. Sun kind of came out of nowhere
[38:22] and it was like, oh, no, I think we're supposed to fall in love
[38:25] with the two of them for that first day.
[38:27] And it was like, oh, and then like Sun looks like hot and you.
[38:30] Bump Hot even. He's just.
[38:32] Like like an X in the middle. And then, yeah, I think, 'cause
[38:36] we're, we're rooting for, I think we're supposed to root.
[38:39] For you and. Jay specifically, there are
[38:41] specific people every season that you're supposed to like,
[38:44] actively like, follow their story and root for them.
[38:46] I think we're supposed to root for you and Jay.
[38:49] And due to how the Summit story like was just for those two
[38:56] weeks and it was just kind of like flash in the pan.
[39:00] Not saying that like there's not something actually there for
[39:03] them. But edit wise, it feels like
[39:06] it's like the longer the longevity of the Yoon J story
[39:10] might be that he ends up winning him over.
[39:12] And it was all started here in this moment.
[39:15] That's why the scene takes it's like the Ram so long.
[39:18] They show us like. The full 15 minute.
[39:20] Conversation. Yeah, Yeah.
[39:22] Yeah, I could see that. I just think the Sanuk and
[39:25] Hyunjin thing is like they've bonded, which is funny.
[39:30] The thing that he says, it's like, I'm so much more
[39:35] comfortable bantering if it's something that I'm not
[39:37] interested in. I felt like they probably got
[39:39] through that hurdle. And then like in this experience
[39:43] when he got that card back saying like, I still am
[39:45] interested in you. Maybe it's like, oh, like.
[39:50] Seeing him in a new light. Well, and he also says it was
[39:53] the same. Like Day 2 was like him.
[39:56] Little Hyukjin also was like, I'm going to go after you.
[39:59] So like there was a lot of Day 2.
[40:04] Activity that UJ was like. You and you and J kind of felt
[40:07] by. The way said but I think I don't
[40:09] know. I have AI have a sneaking
[40:11] suspicion that they're going to end up together.
[40:15] Don't give up hope. But I'm happy either way to be.
[40:17] Honest. Yeah.
[40:20] And then the last thing that happens is after dinner, umm
[40:26] Chuck Chin and hang y'all like run into each other outside.
[40:31] He goes and gets a sweet treat that he had bought at the
[40:33] convenience store earlier that Chuck Chin does buys a gets a
[40:37] sweet treat that he bought at the convenience store.
[40:39] And then they go back to the room and he gives them the
[40:41] Malona ice cream bar chat nickname.
[40:44] Which was his chat nickname. And then this is where Hangyo
[40:48] basically said like, he doesn't say, he says it's the secret.
[40:51] How the? Date went how the date went but.
[40:54] Clearly eludes. Like it kind of, it kind of
[40:57] died. He was like the entire time.
[40:59] I was in the sea. I don't know, I just kind of
[41:01] kept thinking I should be going on a date with him, Yokjin
[41:04] instead. So that's pretty clear what
[41:07] happened at the date. Yep.
[41:08] Even Yokjin was like OK, should I be sussed out that he probably
[41:12] just got rejected and now he's moving on to me who?
[41:15] I don't know, who cares? Who cares?
[41:18] Otherwise, what am I going to do for the next three days?
[41:20] If I get mad about this, who cares?
[41:23] And Chukchin also says that he doesn't have a lot of
[41:27] experience. He's had like 2 relationships
[41:29] since he became of age because he's prioritized his career.
[41:34] But in this? Scene, Genuinely.
[41:38] I feel like I fell in love with him.
[41:40] I know I. Think if I was.
[41:42] To have a phone call, I think from this episode I would call
[41:47] Chukchin. I know he like.
[41:49] Talks about himself very meekly, but then Hongo, who once again
[41:53] is very sure of what he sees and is like, very not afraid to
[41:57] share his opinions, which I really like about it.
[42:00] He's like, yeah, but the way you treat people, not mad at people
[42:04] though, that's the other. Thing that's really nice yeah,
[42:06] the way you're so. Considerate of people.
[42:08] And like, even to me, like, that's clear.
[42:12] That's such a mature way of, like, getting to know someone
[42:14] that, like, I can tell, like, what type of relationship we
[42:18] would have. Yeah.
[42:19] Because that's the role that you would fulfill.
[42:21] Yeah. Like he asks.
[42:23] Him like what's your? Ultimate flirting move and I
[42:25] guess he helped in like didn't have an answer because he's
[42:27] like, I don't think I have one and it's like it's this, it's
[42:29] you buying Melona, it's you checking in on me.
[42:31] It's the little sweet thing. It's the little sweet things.
[42:33] Yeah, because he says like his hard.
[42:35] Thing is like I'm not a good gift giver and I'm not like good
[42:38] at expressing my feelings. So it's you feel like the
[42:40] opposite of me, like in a complimentary way, they like
[42:43] complement each other. I really liked.
[42:47] I know, I know. I'm fully I'm off.
[42:49] The Tai Chi. Train.
[42:51] Yeah, Tai, figure it out. Girl, I do.
[42:53] Think if you think of the show, the three people you're supposed
[42:58] to root for as the show progresses is Yunjay, Hangyo,
[43:02] and Minsung. I think those are the three
[43:06] people. The show is like these are your
[43:08] three, these are the ones that are protagonists that you.
[43:10] Follow and see what how they end up.
[43:12] Yes, I think we're following. Everybody, obviously, but I
[43:15] think there's three that the show is like, this is who you're
[43:19] supposed to. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
[43:21] I see that that doesn't always mean that.
[43:23] They end up getting what they want in the ads.
[43:25] Sometimes it is just unfortunate but I think I have a feeling of
[43:30] those. Those are like who?
[43:31] They were like, 'cause last season it was Diva.
[43:33] It was the is art student diva and that is the.
[43:37] End of a Wow. We have 5 episodes left, right?
[43:42] Yeah, 5 episodes. It is crazy.
[43:47] There are moments. Where I'm like, Oh my God, this,
[43:49] this, this needs to quicken the pace.
[43:52] And then there's some people, yeah, like you said, like the
[43:54] UNJ conversation. I was kind of like hooked.
[43:56] I was hooked every. Word tenter hooks and I think.
[44:00] The show knows that. That's why they're like, it's at
[44:03] the end of the two hour block. I still think I'm gonna.
[44:06] Summarize my my criticism of the show at the end of the show and
[44:09] I It's gonna be the same again and again It's gonna.
[44:12] Be like it has to be a. Longer show longer, Two weeks
[44:16] longer. Fill shoot time.
[44:18] Shoot time, yes, Yeah, they have to be.
[44:20] There for a longer period of time 'cause then you don't feel
[44:23] like you have. To milk the same amount of.
[44:24] Episodes or fewer or fewer, That's the thing.
[44:27] You need, you need the urgency to tell the story quicker.
[44:31] You don't have to milk every single 15 minute conversation
[44:34] and show me every pause and huff, right?
[44:40] So much sighing in the first episode.
[44:42] Yes, Episode 7 Getting ready, Getting ready for the dates.
[44:45] And day four, everyone was in such a bad mood that I was like,
[44:48] this actually isn't fun to watch guys.
[44:51] Like I'm not having a good time watching them.
[44:54] Sigh. Yeah.
[44:55] That's fine. We turned it around at the end
[44:57] of nine, Yeah. So if you want to watch us.
[45:00] Watch them sigh. You can join us at
[45:01] patreon.com/boys. Love, boys, love.
[45:03] We're finishing the last five episodes.
[45:05] We also are starting a new GL and a new BL.
[45:08] We're in Clarabel episode 3 next week.
[45:11] And me and Tea, Honey T and me, two very different shows the
[45:17] from each other and from his man.
[45:19] So we're we're in a real cornucopia.
[45:23] Queer Live. Queer live so join us over there
[45:27] Adam thank you so. Much my pleasure.
[45:30] My pleasure again, we got to come up with a.
[45:33] Different I do. Bye.

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