# 172. Neil Kinnock: Trump, Thatcher, and Why Labour Lost In 1992 (Part 2)

An episode of [The Rest Is Politics: Leading](https://invisiblenetwork.ai/podcast/1665265193), 26 Jan 2026, 1 h 04 min.

Audio: https://pdst.fm/e/traffic.megaphone.fm/GLT3922829356.mp3?updated=1769364787

Why did Neil Kinnock believe the fight against Margaret Thatcher was an existential one? What would Kinnock do to tackle the threat posed to Labour by reform? Why did Labour lose the 1992 election? Alastair and Rory are joined by former Labour leader Neil Kinnock to answer all this and more. Join The Rest Is Politics Plus: Start your free trial at therestispolitics.com to unlock exclusive bonus content plus ad-free listening, early access to episodes and live show tickets, an exclusive members’ newsletter, discounted book prices, and a private chatroom on Discord. Social Producer: Celine Charles Video Editor: Adam Thornton Producer: Alice Horrell Senior Producer: Nicole Maslen Head of Politics: Tom Whiter Exec Producers: Tony Pastor + Jack Davenport Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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