# Episode 064 - The Olympics, The Simpsons & A Looney Tune ft. Rajiv D'Silva

An episode of [Are You Quizzing Me?](https://invisiblenetwork.ai/podcast/1663104901), 15 Apr 2024, 59 min.

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Do you know the distance between the East Terrace of Windsor Castle and the Royal enclosure at Franco British Exhibition ground? Do you know what clever headline was used by a number of publications when a famous band cameoed on The Simpsons? Do you know what goof-up was common to Avengers: Infinity War, Platoon and the Prisoner of Azkaban? Tune in to find out!! You can reach us at Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/areyouquizzingme/ Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/areyouquizzingme Email: areyouquizzingme@gmail.com Subreddit: https://www.reddit.com/r/areyouquizzingme

## Transcript

[0:00] Welcome to Are you Quizzing Me? I am Vineet Nair with my Co host
[0:04] Aditya Kashyap. This is a quizzing trivia
[0:07] podcast show. Join us as we dive deep into
[0:10] history, science, pop culture, and so much more.
[0:14] Let's get quizzing. Welcome back to episode #64 of
[0:21] Are You Quizzing Me? Your Favorite Quizzing and
[0:24] Trivia Podcast Show. Today we have a very special
[0:27] episode, but I'll keep you in a little suspense as to what's so
[0:30] special about it today. Let's start off today's episode
[0:33] as usual with our audience question.
[0:35] I will answer this question at the end of today's episode, so
[0:39] stay tuned to the very end and you can try and guess in the
[0:42] meantime what the answer to this question is.
[0:46] So today's question for you, my dear audience, is this.
[0:49] The Massachusetts Institute of Technology, better known as MIT,
[0:54] will award you a certificate in X if you take archery, pistols,
[1:00] sailing and fencing as your required physical education
[1:04] classes. So what is X in?
[1:06] What will you receive a certificate at MIT if you take
[1:10] archery, pistols, sailing and fencing as your required
[1:15] physical education classes? I will reveal the answer to this
[1:19] at the end of today's episode. Now, as usual, we go to the not
[1:23] so serious portion of our episode with Aditya answering
[1:28] his not so serious question from last week.
[1:31] Aditya, over to you. So the question I asked last
[1:34] week was if George Reddy and his followers were truly fighting
[1:39] for something not very profound but something very, I would say
[1:44] immaterial, what would that be? And it's very clear, because
[1:49] there were students, they'd be fighting for Marx.
[1:53] Oh God, they were marks. Oh God.
[1:56] Physically painful. That is so physically painful.
[2:02] I I really have to apologize to somebody else now on the
[2:05] podcast, which is what I have to tell everybody that we have a
[2:08] guest. We have a guest quiz master
[2:11] today and someone who's of, let's say a much higher caliber
[2:16] when it comes to quizzing and running quizzes than we are.
[2:19] So I would like everyone and Aditya to welcome Rajiv da
[2:23] Silva. Rajiv is a quiz master, an
[2:26] architect by trade. He runs a design studio based on
[2:29] Goa. He says he came to quizzing
[2:32] relatively late in his life, which is his late 20s, but now
[2:36] he is have been at it for nearly two decades.
[2:39] As a person living in Goa, I can attest to the fact that he's a
[2:42] fantastic quiz master. An interesting fact about Rajiv
[2:46] is that he's also a border and he Co founded the Goa Bird
[2:51] Conservation Network. My question to you Rajiv, what
[2:57] is a birder and is it different from a bird watcher?
[3:02] Yeah. OK.
[3:03] So first of all, Vineet Aditya, thanks for having me on this
[3:05] podcast. This is my, I mean this.
[3:09] I'm losing my podcast virginity basically today because I've
[3:11] never done this before. We'll be gentle.
[3:14] Wow. You have to be gentle.
[3:16] Yeah, right. So there's not a there's no
[3:20] difference between bird watcher and birder.
[3:22] It's pretty much the same thing. The difference between an
[3:24] ornithologist and a birder or a bird watcher is that an
[3:28] ornithologist watches birds more for the science of it, to study
[3:32] what the bird habits and maybe a larger or bigger aim.
[3:36] Whereas a bird watcher or a birder shot for bird watcher
[3:40] watchers is just for the pleasure of it.
[3:43] So we I'm a bird, so I I don't go around looking for birds and
[3:46] then study it in detail and you know, count the number of
[3:49] metatarsals and the tarsals and the primaries and all that kind
[3:52] of thing. I don't get into that.
[3:54] So we are doing it merely for the pleasure of it.
[3:57] That's not to say that the scientists are not doing it for
[3:59] pleasure, doing it for pleasure also.
[4:02] But having said that, there's in recent times there's a lot of
[4:06] science that the casual bird watcher also contributes to it.
[4:11] So because oh, a lot of data and you know, especially you know
[4:16] things about migration patterns and distribution of certain
[4:19] species and all is this is all crowd sourced data.
[4:22] And so everybody when when I go out and watch birds and I keep a
[4:27] list of what I've seen where and I upload it to a database and
[4:30] any scientist sitting anywhere can use that data to draw their
[4:33] own conclusions about, you know, whatever they're studying.
[4:37] So that's the kind of that's the difference or non difference
[4:41] between border and ornithologists.
[4:45] That's great. Now that's a first TIL for us,
[4:47] because I had no clue that there was a difference between because
[4:53] frankly speaking, I thought everybody who studied birds and
[4:55] were ornithologists and bird watchers was just like a hobby.
[4:58] But yes, now, now that I know that you guys actually
[5:00] contribute to science, it makes you even more impressive, Rajiv.
[5:03] Even though you had an already impressive.
[5:05] Resume. OK, I don't have to do anything
[5:06] extra to contribute to science that happens.
[5:08] Like what am I? Exactly.
[5:12] So Rajeev, you know the format and you are our guest.
[5:16] So as usual, we let our guests go first.
[5:19] So first question of episode #64 to you, Rajeev?
[5:24] OK, happy to go ahead, but I must profess my first question
[5:29] by saying that I have no clue whether this is going to be hard
[5:31] or difficult or easy or what. And I've just selected a bunch
[5:35] of questions from with own quizzes I've done and let's see
[5:38] how they bounce off you guys. So OK, I'll start with possibly
[5:44] a shortish 1. Here it goes.
[5:46] So what is the exact distance between the east terrace of
[5:51] Windsor Castle and a point which is directly or which was
[5:55] directly in front of the royal enclosure of the main venue of
[5:58] the Franco British Exhibition of Nineteen O 8?
[6:03] So in in in 19 O 8 there was a there was a building that was
[6:08] built for the Franco British exhibition of that year, which
[6:11] was the Royal Enclosure, which was obviously the place where
[6:13] the Royals would sit and watch whatever.
[6:17] And there is also Windsor Castle, right?
[6:20] So what is the exact distance between the east terrace of the
[6:23] Windsor Castle and this Royal Enclosure?
[6:26] And OK, and it might sound like this question that you can't
[6:31] get, but The thing is that you as a quizzer might know the
[6:37] actual distance, but I'm not necessarily looking for an exact
[6:41] distance. So you have to tell me or what
[6:44] is that exact distance? Wow.
[6:47] I'm assuming this has something to do with something iconic in
[6:52] the French English relations. No.
[6:58] So don't go down that route. Oh, OK, all right.
[7:02] Already. Blind Alley.
[7:04] Yeah, you had at least that to go on.
[7:07] This question is bounced off my head like water off a duck's
[7:10] back, frankly speaking. Now I'm thinking there has to be
[7:13] some kind of clever trick behind this.
[7:15] There must be some connect which I'm not getting.
[7:18] The East Star of Windsor Castle you mentioned, right?
[7:23] Yes, the East Terrace, yeah. East Terrace of Windsor Castle.
[7:28] There has to be some logic behind it.
[7:30] He wouldn't ask if there wasn't some kind of logic.
[7:32] Well, there's not too deep logic in the east Terrace, I'll tell
[7:35] you. The only logic is that the east
[7:37] terrace of the Windsor Castle is where the Royals sit and watch
[7:41] stuff happen in front of them. OK, right.
[7:44] So in both cases something was being watched from the East
[7:48] Terrace of Windsor Castle and the Royal enclosure of the of
[7:52] the Exhibition and since. So I think the main clue is the
[7:56] year. It's nineteen O 8. 1908 Wait, Is
[8:01] this the distance between Britain and India?
[8:05] No, no, no, not a distance. No, because I because for a
[8:09] second I was When was the royal Durbar when what was his name,
[8:13] King George came to India where we inaugurated the gateway of
[8:16] India. That was 19.
[8:18] Oh something, right? It was in the 1st 10 years of
[8:20] something, right? Maybe, but no connection with
[8:24] that. OK, I'm going to make it a
[8:26] little easier. Obviously I started off with a
[8:28] little bit of a brain twister, but basically if this were one
[8:33] of those quizzes where you have to categorize my topic, this
[8:36] would be a sports question. I thought about this OK And
[8:40] Vineet, I wish I had not let you lead with the history because
[8:45] that's not my strong suit. I I I don't have a very direct
[8:50] answer, but my chain of thought is the distance could be the
[8:53] more than the maximum distance of some sort of javelin throw or
[8:58] or shot put or something. Like they were just trying to
[9:01] avoid the potential of somebody getting hurt.
[9:04] I'm assuming no. No, OK, at least you've got in
[9:07] the sports, but no, when it did not either guess or do you want
[9:09] me to give another clue? No, I was thinking more on the
[9:12] lines of it might be either. I think tennis would be my
[9:16] first. Is it the tennis court, the
[9:19] distance of a tennis court or something like that?
[9:22] No. No other.
[9:23] Or cricket. That would be the second guess.
[9:26] No. So these two these two locations
[9:28] are quite a distance apart, not not very close by, so I'll give.
[9:32] You. Basically, it was a start point
[9:36] and end point of something. And this was a start point and
[9:39] end point, because the Royals were watching when it started
[9:41] and Royals were watching when it end.
[9:44] Is it like a marathon then? It's a nineteen O 8 Olympics.
[9:49] It's nineteen O 8 Olympics, the London Olympics, oh.
[9:52] Yeah, that's correct. So, so basically until nineteen
[9:56] O 8, the marathon used to be some random distance depending
[10:01] on the city where it was happening.
[10:03] There was no fixed distance. So for after for 19 O eight they
[10:07] had the exact the starting point and end point and after that
[10:11] they decided to standardize the length.
[10:13] Right and. So they took they measured E
[10:16] status to Royal Enclosure and they found that it was 26 miles
[10:21] and 385 yards, which is still this day the standard.
[10:25] The current? Yeah, length.
[10:27] The current length of a marathon.
[10:28] So it came from there. Oh.
[10:32] Wait, that's very interesting, because I was under the
[10:34] assumption that it had to do with the Greek legend of that
[10:37] guy who ran. Basically, wasn't that 26 miles?
[10:40] The Battle of Marathon. It was roundabouts, yes, but as
[10:45] an Olympic sport until 19 O eight.
[10:48] It was because also they had to keep records in somewhere until
[10:52] 19 O eight. They didn't have a specific
[10:53] distance. They would say OK, around 26
[10:55] miles, around 42 kilometers and it would be a little variation.
[10:59] And after nineteen O 8, when they decided to to standardize
[11:04] it, they took it from the London Olympics and that was the exact
[11:08] distance, which is why everybody runs 26 miles 385 yards.
[11:13] Oh, cracker Cracker is thrown down the gauntlet with the first
[11:18] question. OK.
[11:19] Oh shit. The benchmark.
[11:21] No serious that that was a seriously good question, by the
[11:24] way. That was a seriously good
[11:25] question. I really like that.
[11:26] I'm stealing that question, by the way, for some quiz.
[11:28] You're not attending it. OK, go ahead.
[11:31] Yes. OK.
[11:33] Now let's hear one of yours. OK.
[11:35] I'll go ahead. I'll go next.
[11:37] So I'm going to give you a list because it's usually Aditya who
[11:40] tortures me with lists, Listical questions.
[11:43] So I'm going to give a list, right.
[11:45] So I'm going to give you a list of names.
[11:48] OK? They're very difficult to
[11:49] pronounce, so bear with me with my atrocious pronunciations.
[11:54] First, the pair, OK, some of them are pair, some of them are
[11:57] individual names. Some of them are three names in
[11:59] groups. OK.
[12:01] The first one would be Eugene Edward Mono and Alphonse
[12:06] Laviere. The second is Jann Wills, the
[12:11] third is Gustav Sack, Pierre Bailey and Pierre Montenot #4.
[12:19] Or the 4th on this list is Herman Kutchera, #5 is Adolf
[12:24] Hawk, number six is Alfred Hensel, #7 is John Hughes, #8 is
[12:31] Werner March and Walter March, and the last is Yerjo Lindegren.
[12:37] I don't expect anybody. And like, if you can answer this
[12:40] off the Trot Nah, I would literally crown you king of
[12:42] quizzes in the world. But this is an exhaustive list
[12:48] in this particular category. OK?
[12:51] Even if you give me something related to it, I will give you.
[12:54] I will happily give you the points.
[12:57] So this is the connect. Does this ring any bells at all?
[13:01] So what you want to know is what is this a list of?
[13:04] What is this a list of? Not one name on that list rang
[13:08] any bits for me? I'm so clueless right now and
[13:12] I'm so glad I'm not the only one.
[13:15] Only The only exception was the last one that sounded like the
[13:18] actor Dolls Lungren. But it wasn't that right?
[13:21] No, no, no. It's Yergo Lindegren.
[13:24] Oh sorry, then I'm clueless. I have to pass up OK.
[13:28] You also had Walter March. Werner, March and Walter, March
[13:34] March, March, MARCHI. Think there is a sound designer
[13:39] by something similar in Hollywood.
[13:42] Some similar name, but I don't know if I'm anywhere close.
[13:47] How many? How many numbers in your list?
[13:50] In this list there were eight or nine?
[13:52] No. 9. So 9 And how many of them were
[13:57] more than one? So the first one was more
[14:00] whether there were two people, Eugene Edward Monode and
[14:03] Alphonse Lavier. #3 was Gustav SAR Sack, Pierre Bally and
[14:08] Pierre Montonot, and #8 was Werner March and Walter March.
[14:14] The first one is as I mentioned, Eugene Edward Monon and Alphonse
[14:18] Levier are Swiss, Jan Wils is from the Netherlands.
[14:22] Gustav Sack, Pierre Bally and Pierre Montonot are from France.
[14:26] Herman Kochera was from Austria, Adolf Hawk from Austria, Alfred
[14:32] Hensel was from Germany, John Hughes from Great Britain,
[14:36] Werner March, Walter March again from Germany and Euro Lingren
[14:40] from Finland. OK, just going by the countries
[14:43] they are from, is it like Mountaineers who have done all
[14:51] this? Nothing to do.
[14:51] No, no, no, unfortunately not. Let me just say that these are
[14:56] forgotten people. Oh.
[14:59] Let's say that the category to which these people belong to,
[15:04] there are entire databases of this of related types of
[15:08] categories, but they are not included.
[15:10] These people are not included, they've been completely
[15:12] forgotten. Like if say for example there is
[15:15] a website, actually there is a website, an official website you
[15:18] can go to where there are, you know, categories and lists of
[15:22] all the people who you know have similar who belong to similar
[15:26] lists like this, but you won't find their names.
[15:29] The names I've told you, you won't find them.
[15:31] They've been forgotten. They've been erased from
[15:33] history. And are you able to give us a
[15:36] time frame on this? Ah yes, very good.
[15:39] That was going to be my clue next.
[15:40] OK, so 1912 was Eugene Edward Monard and Alfons Lavier. 1928
[15:48] was John Wills. Alfred Hensel was also
[15:51] 19/28/1932 was Gustav Sack, Pierre Bailey, Pierre Montenot
[15:59] and John Hughes was also 19321936.
[16:05] It was Herman Kochera, then Werner March and Walter March.
[16:10] And 1948 was Adolf Hawk and Yergo Lindrigen.
[16:16] Well, just getting going by the year.
[16:17] This is some Olympics funder. Aha, now you're very warm.
[16:22] Now you're very warm. So are these the gold medalists
[16:25] in the Olympics used to give those other weird gold medals in
[16:29] architecture and art, This is. Bad.
[16:32] This is. This is why I told you that we
[16:34] should have a handicap for this fellow.
[16:36] Yes, these are all the gold medalists in architecture.
[16:40] OK, fine. Well, you had this question.
[16:46] No, I put one architecture question in the actually to a
[16:49] couple of architecture questions because I knew that he'd be
[16:51] coming on the show. So I was like I should have.
[16:53] Something related to architecture.
[16:55] Okay Okay okay. So lucky guess, I guess.
[16:59] Yeah, no, but that was a great crack.
[17:01] So again, for those in our audience who did not know, the
[17:05] Olympics actually had an art section.
[17:08] So there used to be awards given medals given for architecture.
[17:12] The terms, actually the names of the events were mixed
[17:15] architecture in 1912, which they changed to two different
[17:18] categories later on, which is called mixed architecture or
[17:21] architectural designs. And the second one was town
[17:24] planning. So Werner March and Walter March
[17:27] got it for town planning. In addition, there were gold
[17:31] medals for sculpting, painting, art, poetry and so literature
[17:38] also was another category that was given another piece of
[17:40] trivia. I'd like to tell you guys, you
[17:42] know Pierre de Kubatin, who was the guy who started the modern
[17:46] day? Yes, he won an Olympic gold
[17:51] medal. I.
[17:53] Have covered this one somewhere, although I don't remember what
[17:56] it is one of these. Yes.
[17:59] So he won the gold medal for literature at the 1912 Summer
[18:03] Olympics for his poems Ode to Sport.
[18:07] Thing is, he was a Frenchman, as evidenced by his name, Pierre de
[18:11] Kobuta. But he won the medal, went to
[18:15] Germany. Why?
[18:16] Because he entered this poem. The name was the name of the
[18:21] poem was owed to sport under the pseudonym of Georges Horod and M
[18:27] Eshkabak, which were names of villages close to his vice place
[18:30] of birth in Germany. So the medal technically now
[18:33] still shows us German. Its a German medal, but he's a
[18:35] Frenchman. OK, interesting.
[18:39] So yeah, these are the gold medalists in architecture.
[18:42] Well cracked, Reggie. Well, cracked.
[18:47] That was exceedingly impressive. I was practically useless for
[18:51] that question. But I loved it.
[18:53] Being a spectator to that was, I believe, how Olympic spectators
[18:57] must have felt watching the merchants design their city.
[19:01] I guess I don't know. How do you, how do you even
[19:03] compete over that? That is really fun.
[19:05] Yeah, but great. Great.
[19:07] OK, Rajeev, back to you. Oh, back to me again.
[19:10] OK, I will do a history, you know, question, I think.
[19:14] OK, if you go to a place called Indora in Pathankot, I don't
[19:19] think anybody normal has ever been there.
[19:22] But there is a small place called Indora in Pathankot.
[19:25] Normal. I mean, I mean, you wouldn't go
[19:28] there as a tourist, I guess. OK.
[19:30] OK. Maybe.
[19:30] I don't know. I don't know.
[19:32] And so there is a there's a strip temple called the Kartgarh
[19:35] Shiv Temple there. The temple that's there today is
[19:39] like just a modern standard temple kind of thing.
[19:43] But it's Shivling is said to be very, very old and traced back
[19:47] to the original temple which was supposed to be built in 326 BC.
[19:53] A Shivling at the Kartgar temple is is 326 BC.
[19:57] So the original temple which was built in 326 BC.
[20:02] Is believed was was built to commemorate something, right?
[20:06] And so that spot where the original temple was built, where
[20:09] the modern temple still lies, is believed to mark the exact spot
[20:15] of what turning point in Indian history.
[20:19] You said 326 BC. Yes, 326 BC.
[20:22] That would be Alexander. That was going to be my guess,
[20:27] Alexander and porous. That is correct.
[20:30] So collectively, you've got that answer correct.
[20:32] So that's apparently the spot where Alexander's armies gave up
[20:36] and turned back and and and went back.
[20:40] So that's my turning point. Yeah, well done.
[20:42] Yes, that's the. That's where Alexander returned.
[20:46] I love. I love the phrasing for them.
[20:48] That is such a classic quizma thing to do.
[20:51] Turning point. I love it.
[20:52] Very nice. Yeah, very nice.
[20:54] It was too porous that Alexander's asked him.
[20:57] How would you like to be treated?
[20:59] And he said, I would like to be treated like a king.
[21:02] Correct. Correct.
[21:03] And that's the one, yeah. But eventually, as as as as
[21:07] everyone knows history, that he was defeated not by porous or
[21:09] anybody else, but by disease and whatever.
[21:13] Tuberculosis is what they suspect.
[21:14] And home and homesickness and all that kind of stuff.
[21:18] Whatever it is, it stopped him from marching over through the
[21:21] rest of you guys so worked well for.
[21:23] Yeah. Yes.
[21:25] So the next question is Adityas. Yep.
[21:28] When I had so many jokes per question, but I was trying to be
[21:31] serious. Well, OK, I'm going to stop.
[21:34] No, I'm not going to take my opportunity since you guys have
[21:37] given me the mic at this point. Because firstly, when a marathon
[21:41] happens, I think it's the most ridiculous way to honor somebody
[21:45] who ran 26 miles and then died by running 26 miles and
[21:48] celebrating really, really rude to do that.
[21:54] And then Alexander obviously died because he was sick under.
[22:01] Oh God. OK, fine.
[22:07] All right. OK.
[22:10] I'm not even leaving it for the next episode.
[22:12] Showing it right now, all right. So since Vineet did tell me a
[22:16] little bit about you and told me about the legendary status you
[22:19] have in Goa and its quizzing community.
[22:22] So told me about, I think you need to.
[22:25] No, no, no, no, no. You're being too modest, Rajeev.
[22:30] Own it. So.
[22:32] So I I had to prepare questions specially for you.
[22:35] So my first question is obviously going to be what is
[22:39] the airspeed velocity of an unladen swallow?
[22:42] Wait. Wait, this is actually I wrote
[22:54] it somewhere? You.
[22:58] You have. You have.
[22:59] I would imagine you have, yes. Yeah, but you know, this is this
[23:02] is a serious question or this is a joke.
[23:05] No, no, no. This is an actual answer, and I
[23:09] would encourage anybody in our audience who knows the answer to
[23:11] type it in our comments. But no, I have an actual
[23:13] question I I'm not going. To enough, enough Monty Python
[23:17] for today. Yeah, yeah, that was Monty
[23:20] Python. That's why I was trying to see
[23:22] where I wrote this. Yes, that is Monty Python.
[23:26] OK, the question I'm actually going to ask is from the world
[23:29] of movies. OK, And this has to do with
[23:33] mostly English films. So hopefully, hopefully, your
[23:37] update on your Hollywood trivia. I'm going to name a bunch of
[23:40] films since when you did. I hate you.
[23:43] I hate you. I told you I hate this questions
[23:45] and he purposely does. This you will, You will, you
[23:47] will, you will get this, I'm pretty sure.
[23:49] So tell me what is common between them?
[23:50] OK, and these are all pretty famous movies.
[23:54] Oliver Stone's famous movie Platoon.
[23:58] We also have on this list the movie 1917, The World War One
[24:03] movie. We have Harry Potter and the
[24:05] Prisoner of Azkaban. We have MCU's Infinity War.
[24:11] And this is also technically not a movie, but The Walking Dead.
[24:16] What is common between all of them?
[24:20] OK, let me just ask a quizzer question here.
[24:22] Is this an exhaustive list? No.
[24:25] No. So there are more.
[24:27] Yes, many many more. Wow, I can't.
[24:34] Platoon, The Prisoner of Azkaban, which was the number
[24:38] which was the second one you mentioned after Platoon
[24:40] 19/17/1917, right? 1917.
[24:45] When you first when you said of 1917 after Platoon, my mind was,
[24:48] is there a single shot in Platoon?
[24:51] But there isn't. Yeah.
[24:53] No, these are not nothing to do with.
[24:56] OK. So this is a very, very
[24:58] open-ended question as of now. So let me narrow it down a
[25:00] little bit more for you guys. I'm looking for what would be
[25:04] considered on the IMDb page A. Goof.
[25:08] Something that all of these movies messed.
[25:10] Up. Oh, OK Is are these where
[25:13] anachronisms appear in the movie Oliver Stones Alexander.
[25:18] There's a watch that appears right, and there's a plane you
[25:21] can see in the background. Is it something like?
[25:23] That the Game of Thrones episode where there's a Starbucks,
[25:26] Starbucks, Starbucks. Yeah.
[25:28] Yeah, no, no that. I imagine that there's a much,
[25:31] much longer list and that would be too vague A list.
[25:34] This is a very specific thing that they all mess up.
[25:37] They mess. Up.
[25:39] See now what's really funny is it's can't be anything
[25:42] historical because we're talking Prisoner of Azkaban as well and
[25:45] the Infinity War. And Walking Dead.
[25:48] And walking. Dead.
[25:50] So you're right. It isn't history.
[25:52] The first two might have led you down the path of history.
[25:55] Let us think closer to geography.
[25:57] Oh, OK. OK, the Infinity War.
[26:01] I know there was a goof where a character during the war scene
[26:04] could not have been where they were because of just like a shot
[26:08] earlier they were shown somewhere else.
[26:10] So is this like translocation of characters happening in real
[26:13] time? No, no.
[26:15] That would also again be. I don't know.
[26:17] I imagine a more common error, perhaps.
[26:19] Error. I did create this question
[26:22] specifically for our guest today, so leave you any closer.
[26:28] OK. Is it got anything to do with
[26:29] birds now? Let me think.
[26:34] But you said it's a goof. It's not just something that's
[26:36] common. It's like a mistake or an error.
[26:39] Yes. The only thing about birds and
[26:43] Infinity War is it the Falcon. Oh, that's a smart guess, but
[26:48] no, no, we're not talking with the Falcon here at all.
[26:50] What? What was the 1st?
[26:52] You're right, it has something to do.
[26:54] Oh, it has it. Has something to do with birds
[26:57] and I also mentioned geography, so more specifically location.
[27:01] OK, so then I would guess, did these movies have some birds,
[27:08] but put them in countries or places where those birds are not
[27:12] actually found, Something like that.
[27:15] Very, very close. Very close.
[27:17] But again, if you are a birder or an ornithologist, as it may
[27:20] be the case, you might know the specific bird.
[27:23] And you definitely have heard this sound because it is used.
[27:26] So it is almost like the Wilhelm Scream but for birds used to
[27:31] create an aura. So in this case perhaps it might
[27:34] be easier if you knew what the sound was.
[27:36] So I'm telling you very specific.
[27:38] I'm looking for the name of the bird whose sound is used
[27:42] incorrectly in all these films and multiple other films.
[27:44] If you know the name of the bird, that would be your answer
[27:47] right there. If not, I'll play the sound and
[27:49] then you can tell me. And you definitely have heard
[27:51] the sound in movies. Are you saying is the same bird
[27:55] in in all the movies? Exact same bird sound that is
[27:59] used in all these movies in locations where this bird would
[28:02] never be found. OK, that's OK.
[28:06] Well, I we know there's a snowy owl in Harry Potter, so is that
[28:09] the one? No, the bird is not there in
[28:11] these movies. The sound of the bird.
[28:13] Oh, it's the bird sound, yeah. Where in Infinity War is there a
[28:18] bird sound? You wouldn't even believe where.
[28:23] I'm trying to. I'm racking my brain.
[28:25] I can't even. I don't think there's a single
[28:27] bird, except for maybe the cabin scene with Tony.
[28:31] No, no. There is a bird sound on Thanos
[28:33] Planet. Oh God.
[28:35] You could imagine. To be fair, Thanos, this planet
[28:40] might have this bird. I mean, we don't know so.
[28:43] I do know that a very common bird sound that is used in
[28:46] movies, especially Hollywood movies to create atmosphere.
[28:49] All this bird called the Lipurville is the same one
[28:52] Lipurville. No, no, no.
[28:55] That's a good guess, but no. All right, I'll just so you
[28:57] already have gotten pretty close to the answer.
[29:00] And so specifically for the birding enthusiasts in our
[29:03] listeners. And if there aren't any, then
[29:05] hopefully we'll be after this episode.
[29:07] I'm going to play the sound. Hopefully you get it from that,
[29:10] and even if you don't get the name of the bird, you would
[29:12] definitely have heard the sound. Oh yeah.
[29:20] Yeah. So this is a loon, right?
[29:22] The loon. Oh.
[29:23] That was that is exactly what I was hoping for, actually.
[29:27] I was hoping that you would be able to get it as soon as you
[29:30] heard the sound. So our podcast listeners can
[29:33] hear the sound, but there's a wonderful Walks video on
[29:36] YouTube, a pop culture recommendation for every
[29:39] episode. From here on out, go watch Vox
[29:41] videos. But.
[29:43] Check out Vox videos about the Call of the Loon, the Whale of
[29:46] the Loon and how it is misused in all films.
[29:49] Most films that it's used in because it is considered this
[29:53] atmospheric, beautiful, melancholy sound, but it is
[29:56] found in very few locations in the North America, so almost
[30:00] every other place that it is used in is incorrectly used.
[30:04] And yeah, and you probably have heard that sound in a film, even
[30:08] if you didn't know where the sound was of and what animal or
[30:11] bird. But now you do.
[30:13] And that's why we need birders on our show.
[30:16] Yeah this this would have been a completely useless question with
[30:19] me. Like you could have gone on
[30:20] giving me glues till Kingdom come and I still wouldn't have
[30:23] gotten it. That was good for that.
[30:26] So I hadn't realized that all these kind of things, I mean
[30:30] inconsistencies, inconsistencies were there in this film.
[30:35] OK, cool. So many.
[30:37] The list is very long. Yeah, so I.
[30:38] Just have a query this this is spelled loon as an LOON.
[30:42] Yep. So is it the same loon as in
[30:46] Looney Tunes? So is this a Looney Tune?
[30:50] This is the original Looney tune, yeah?
[30:53] Yeah. So I don't remember the funda
[30:55] exactly, but there is an expression called the crazy
[30:58] loon, which comes from this vertical.
[31:02] And so the loon, no, I don't know whether loon gets its, I
[31:06] think I'm not sure about this on that.
[31:08] But then the bird itself gets its name from Looney because it
[31:13] is supposed supposed to be like, I think you know, at some time
[31:17] mating season or something like that, it makes some weird
[31:19] sounds. I don't know if this was a sound
[31:21] which, which means that, which is why in Canada and North and I
[31:26] guess all of North America, it's called the crazy loon.
[31:29] Wow. Interesting.
[31:31] And I have to look up, look that up to see the actual funder.
[31:33] But it's something there's some funder I know.
[31:38] No, but again, great question, Aditya, which again as I
[31:42] mentioned, I would never have gotten a million years.
[31:45] So let's go back to Rajeev. Rajeev hate us again one more
[31:50] time. OK.
[31:51] One more, this one, I think I will do a music question and I
[31:56] hope that you guys are into music stuff and you can get it.
[32:02] This would be a fairly, I mean a reasonably workable one I think.
[32:07] So as as you guys know, over the years many bands and artists
[32:11] have made guest appearances on The Simpsons.
[32:13] You know, Simpsons, they likely get guests of different kinds on
[32:17] on the show. So when it was announced in 2009
[32:22] that this band, a particular band was to make an appearance,
[32:25] many websites and newspapers. Then they reported that news
[32:29] with a nearly identical and I think quite clever headline dash
[32:34] to turn dash for Simpsons. Now if the first dash is the
[32:40] name of the band and the second dash is the name of the song or
[32:45] a song that the band is very well known for, which is the
[32:49] band in which is the song? I think I worked it out.
[32:52] I'm not sure, I could be wrong. So then I'm not going to flex or
[32:56] anything. I'm just going to stay very
[32:57] humble and see if Aditya can work this out.
[33:00] OK Aditya, you go first time. I'm a bit lost right now.
[33:04] Can you just, sorry, remind me where was this when was?
[33:08] This so 2009 this band was It was announced that this band
[33:12] would make an appearance on the show so so you know websites and
[33:16] newspapers or whatever entertainment magazines
[33:19] announced it saying dash to turn dash for Simpsons and those.
[33:22] So they cleverly worked the name of this of of a of a song by
[33:26] that band into the headline, which is kind of relevant to the
[33:28] whole Simpsons universe. And loyal listeners of our
[33:36] podcast would know that I've actually loved newspaper
[33:38] headline questions in the past. So right now I'm I'm quite sad
[33:45] that I can't crack this one immediately.
[33:46] No, Vineet, I I hand it over to you.
[33:49] OK, so I think again this is just working it out from what
[33:53] Rajiv asked. Again, no flex here, but is this
[33:56] Coldplay turns yellow for The Simpsons?
[33:59] That is right. Well done, Vineet.
[34:01] Yeah, this Coldplay will turn yellow because everybody on The
[34:05] Simpsons is yellow, of course. Yeah.
[34:07] And because at that time, this song yellow.
[34:09] And so they said Coldplay also will turn yellow.
[34:12] I mean, it was a good headline, actually.
[34:14] Well done, really well worked out.
[34:16] I could see. I could see the mental gears
[34:18] turning as the yeah as the whole question of dig red out and then
[34:22] it suddenly clicked in place. Well, that, yeah.
[34:27] That was pretty cool. No, that was a great question
[34:29] and a great answer with you. Yeah, I'm pretty impressive.
[34:31] Thank you. OK, my turn.
[34:35] This is a question I came. This is a piece of trivia I came
[34:38] across the other day and I was like this is so well timed, but
[34:43] I also have a feeling that Rajiv may know this, so I'm going to
[34:48] ask it anyway. Very short question, practically
[34:51] one of the shortest questions I've asked on the podcast.
[34:55] Bushu suru. OK bushu suru is a Japanese word
[35:01] coined to denote a specific FAWPA.
[35:05] What fawpa does it denote? Bushu Suru.
[35:11] OK, well you're wrong in thinking that I might know it
[35:14] because I am not used. Bushu bushu bushu.
[35:20] OK. Bushu Suru.
[35:23] Does this have anything to do with like eating habit or eating
[35:27] practices? Like, don't dip the sushi in the
[35:30] soy sauce. No, quite the rivers, Quite the
[35:33] rivers. Quite the rivers, yeah.
[35:36] But you said it's a FOPA. It's a fawpa.
[35:38] It's a FAWPA. But is this is this a FAWPA
[35:43] that's kind of limited to Japanese culture?
[35:46] Or is it like a general FAWPA for which the Japanese have come
[35:48] up? This fawpa was this new word was
[35:51] specifically coined because that fawpa happened at the hands of a
[35:55] non Japanese person. OK.
[36:00] Is it? Did George Bush do something
[36:03] really stupid? Bush.
[36:04] Did something in Japan, right? Yes, you got that.
[36:09] I'll give you the translation. Let's see if you can get closer
[36:13] to the, you know, more specific answer.
[36:15] Bushusuru literally means to do the Bush thing, or shorter,
[36:20] bushing it. OK, now what did he do?
[36:25] Did he? I think he went to sleep while
[36:27] there was some sort of a ceremony or some.
[36:30] That I think he does. That he did.
[36:31] Almost every other day he did. It all the time.
[36:36] No, the first question before I let you guys kind of wander down
[36:39] the wrong path is which Bush are we talking about?
[36:44] I kind of assume it is Dubya. It's not Dubya, is it?
[36:47] It's not Dubya. OK, so.
[36:50] The senior Senior. It's a spy, yes.
[36:53] I can't call him a spy. He was a manager of spies.
[36:57] He was the Judi Dench. No, he was the director of the
[37:02] CIA. No, before he became president,
[37:04] he was director of the CIA. During the only whole Iran
[37:07] Contra affair, he was the director of the CIA.
[37:11] I seem to remember that there was a thing where he collapsed
[37:15] or fainted or something on. Oh yes, very, very close.
[37:18] Very, very close. But something happened before he
[37:20] collapsed. Oh, you also said it's the
[37:23] opposite of. Eating, Yeah.
[37:26] Eating so I always feel bad guessing this but did he like
[37:31] did he? I hope it's not soiling is that
[37:34] would have been. I would definitely know if he
[37:35] soiled his pants. So I'm guessing he puked.
[37:37] Or something. Yes.
[37:40] Oh, he puked. Bushu sodo is the act of
[37:45] vomiting into somebody else's lap.
[37:48] Oh God. Oh God.
[37:53] Is that what he did? Yeah, so this is.
[37:56] And The thing is now there's a fascinating kind of side tangent
[37:59] that comes from it, so I'll just give you the history.
[38:02] So while attending a banquet hosted by Japanese Prime
[38:05] Minister Kichi Miyazawa on 8th January 1992, George HW Bush
[38:11] fainted after vomiting into Miyazawa's lap.
[38:16] And then he basically later attempt at attributed the
[38:19] incident to an case of acute gastroenteritis.
[38:22] So he threw up and then he fainted and fell.
[38:25] When his doctor came to came to him and kind of revived him, he
[38:27] saw what happened and he was like just leave me under the
[38:30] table and let me know when everybody's left.
[38:36] Now this is the origin of the term bushusuru.
[38:39] What is really fascinating about this is this one incident may
[38:44] have changed the course of scientific history.
[38:47] What? Oh.
[38:48] So have you heard of the Desertron or the Superconducting
[38:52] Super Collider? Unlikely, because yeah.
[38:57] So maybe, like if you were, if you were, if you were, if you
[39:00] were, like very active in the early 90s, you may have heard of
[39:03] it. But the Superconducting
[39:05] Supercondider was a particle accelerator complex which was
[39:09] under construction in Texas. Congress, when it granted the
[39:15] permission to build it, gave it a budget of $4.4 billion.
[39:19] But the budget kept going higher and higher and higher, right?
[39:23] India, at the time that we are talking late 30s, late 80s,
[39:27] early 90s. And you know the financial
[39:28] situation of India. At the time, India offered to
[39:31] give $50 million, right? But the budget kept going up
[39:35] higher, like every year it would go up to 22, another 2 billion,
[39:38] another 3 billion. By the time it was scrapped, it
[39:42] had almost gone to around $21 billion.
[39:45] OK, so this particular project, it was a pet project of a lot of
[39:50] scientists who wanted to do particular accelerator
[39:54] experiments using this Texas super Collider.
[39:58] CERN at the time was only still planning the Large Hadron
[40:02] Collider. OK, they were only it was still
[40:05] only in the planning stages. It would come to fruition much
[40:07] later. So this came much before CERN.
[40:10] So. When this thing went into such
[40:13] financial crisis, they were looking for partners to bring
[40:16] onto the project and Japan was on top of the list.
[40:21] Only the Japanese would spend money for all of this.
[40:24] So one of the topics that Bush was going to bring up at that
[40:27] meeting was the partnership for the Superconducting
[40:29] Supercollider. When he bushu surud, it kind of
[40:34] ended the night and Japan was never formally asked to
[40:37] participate. The project was defunded and
[40:41] CERN went on to prove the Higgs boson with the Large Hatron
[40:44] Collider almost 20 years later. That's an amazing point.
[40:50] One Bushusuru got a multi billion dollar science project
[40:54] reduced to a $21 billion hole under Texas.
[41:01] That stuff. Could so that is bushusuru.
[41:04] Something for George Bush to remember.
[41:06] It's Junior to remember. Every time somebody, every time
[41:11] somebody criticizes WW, you can just say.
[41:13] But at least I never bushel surud like I did read one.
[41:16] I did once read a Kinderbarten book upside down, but that was.
[41:23] Yeah, no, I think. I think it's something worth
[41:25] remembering that the weapon of mass destruction was inside of
[41:28] you all along. OK, Rajeev, come on, hit us.
[41:34] OK, fine, here's my next question.
[41:38] OK, since its invention in 1948 by Swiss engineer Jos de
[41:43] Nistral, you know what I'm talking about.
[41:45] Velcro has burgeoned into a multi billion dollar industry
[41:49] and is used today for thousands of different applications.
[41:52] Right among the more specific users for it is an is in an
[41:58] astronaut's helmet where typically a small square patch
[42:02] is fixed to the inside of the visor.
[42:04] I can see from Aditya's smile that he probably already knows
[42:07] this, but I'll ask the question, what is the purpose of that
[42:11] small piece of Velcro? I know this answer, so I'll let
[42:14] Vineet take a guess. OK.
[42:16] Will you take a guess? I did know that Velcro was for
[42:19] one of the first users for Velcro was in the space program.
[42:22] But I had thought it was mostly for the they used Velcro on the
[42:27] soles of the boots they were using inside the space shuttle
[42:31] and also they could move in weightlessness.
[42:33] I did not know about the visor thing.
[42:35] Why would they have Velcro inside the visor?
[42:37] So I'm sure they use a lot of Velcro in the space suit
[42:40] elsewhere for fastening and things like that, but this is a
[42:43] small piece, like a small square piece affixed on the inside of
[42:47] the visor on. The inside of a visor.
[42:50] I just finished reading Chris Hadfield's The Apollo Models.
[42:54] You know, astronaut Chris Hadfield.
[42:55] He's written a mystery book, by the way, called The Apollo
[42:57] Models, and there is a sequence in that where one of the
[43:01] astronauts Spooks inside his helmet.
[43:03] So that's the only thing that can that's coming to mind.
[43:06] But I can't. I can't for the life of me think
[43:08] how could that possibly really be related to a piece of Velcro?
[43:11] Sorry, can I just make a small correction?
[43:13] You mean he bushu Surud inside his helmet?
[43:15] No, he didn't do it in somebody. Else's lap.
[43:20] It may have trickled into his own lap eventually, though, but
[43:25] that that in fact is, is kind of a clue.
[43:29] Like, like vomiting. It kind of involves something
[43:33] involuntary sneezing. No, no, not quite.
[43:37] But you're getting kind of closer.
[43:39] I suppose probably a lot more common than sneezing.
[43:43] A lot more common than sneezing. I think so.
[43:46] I would assume so, yeah. Breathing.
[43:49] But then what? No, no, That is more common than
[43:52] sneezing. You're not going.
[43:53] To help him with breathing. OK, what is more common than
[43:57] sneezing? Now that's my that that is what
[43:59] I'm going to go by blinking. But what do you mean by El
[44:03] Crove? OK, now, so I know there are two
[44:06] visors. So the visors of these helmets
[44:08] usually have, there are two layers.
[44:10] So right, there's the glass layer and then there's a
[44:12] reflective layer that they have that they kind of put down when
[44:15] they go for a space walk or whenever they're anywhere near
[44:18] exposure to the sun. So is it to keep that in place?
[44:21] But then it wouldn't be on the inside.
[44:23] Yeah, it wouldn't be on. No, I think like you mentioned,
[44:26] I think it's a bodily function that you're looking at or.
[44:29] But why Velcro? Is it like a spit collection
[44:32] device where it just anything she says spit gets gets trapped
[44:35] on the Velcro hooks? No.
[44:37] No, no, no, no. Very vehement.
[44:41] No? Nope.
[44:41] I need some. OK, do you want another clue or
[44:45] should we let Aditya answer it? Aditya, Aditya, go ahead.
[44:47] Go ahead. Yeah, got it.
[44:50] It is if you're feeling the itch, oh, how would you itch
[44:55] your? Nose in the spacesuit.
[44:58] So when you have an itchy nose, that what is the Velcro for?
[45:02] Yeah, well. Then so that's true.
[45:04] Simple thing like like scratching your own nose is not
[45:08] possible in a spacesuit, right? So they put a little bit of
[45:11] Velcro so that the astronaut can actually rub his nose against it
[45:15] in some Velcro if it is. That is a fantastic use of
[45:19] Velcro. I have to admit very that's a
[45:23] very good user Velcro. OK, well now Aditya.
[45:29] So now Aditya, I think you are going to be asking the last
[45:33] question of this episode. Since I did ask a birding
[45:37] related question earlier, I'm going to do one more and.
[45:41] OK, I'm so sorry, Rajeev. Oh no.
[45:47] Well, you know, Rajeev proved himself to be a strong bird just
[45:50] by recognizing from the sound what bird it was.
[45:53] So. You know, you know, you know
[45:56] something. I have a feeling that all of us
[45:59] guys were bird watchers at one point.
[46:02] How? How?
[46:04] Especially in college. Well, we all have bird watching
[46:10] credentials. Yeah, but I'm surprised you're
[46:14] saying, boss, because I think you have some something, some
[46:17] habits, they'll go away. Yeah, I am married.
[46:20] So the answer is, oh, it's definitely gone away.
[46:23] No, no, no, no, no. That is expired, extinct, gone,
[46:26] gone The way of the dodo, that's.
[46:27] True. Yeah, only bird you watch is the
[46:31] dodo now. OK.
[46:36] So this question is based in Durban in South Africa in 2009,
[46:41] and we are talking about the biggest web service provider in
[46:46] the country called Telecom and they had an ADSL service.
[46:48] OK, this was subpar to say the least and people were rather
[46:54] annoyed with it. An employee of an IT company was
[46:59] so annoyed that he decided to challenge the company in a very
[47:03] specific way and he promised them that he would prove that
[47:08] they are extremely slow. How did he go about doing this?
[47:13] I have a guess, but I'm going to keep quiet for now.
[47:17] Oh, an employee 2009. Seeing as Howard is Durban, it's
[47:24] got, it's got to be some cricket involved somewhere.
[47:27] Oh no, Is that this is Durban? No, I don't think I have a clue,
[47:32] although I I feel this is one of those when the the answer comes
[47:35] out. Oh, OK, that's what happened.
[47:37] Yeah. This this isn't something that
[47:40] would have been historically very significant that all of us
[47:43] would have heard of. It just happens to be a fun
[47:46] little piece of trivia that happened, and I thought we were.
[47:49] OK. So he the employee of the same
[47:52] company which is Telecom or something like that besides.
[47:56] To No, it's not from the same. It's not from the same company.
[47:59] He was an employee of an IT company, but he was annoyed with
[48:03] this service being so slow and he decided to issue a public
[48:07] challenge to prove how slow this particular service was.
[48:12] No no no no no I I don't think I can check it out based on what I
[48:16] have. Any other clues?
[48:19] OK, so there were a couple of rules involved in this.
[48:22] I'm going to give you the rules and hopefully that will help
[48:24] you. The first one was no cats
[48:29] allowed and no performance enhancing food item.
[48:36] OK, so did he use pigeon service or something to send send a
[48:42] message to somewhere? OK.
[48:44] Is that what he did? So he he he challenged them that
[48:50] a pigeon would be able to transfer 4GB faster than the
[48:54] broadband service was able to. He took a 4GB thumb drive, tied
[49:01] it to a pigeon and sent it. The distance was 60 miles, 60
[49:07] miles. The pigeon covered the distance
[49:09] in around 2 hours and in the same time the ADSL service had
[49:14] transferred 4% of the data. So he actually was the
[49:21] challenge. One and how yeah.
[49:27] OK, that's cool. And when I said food item, I
[49:30] meant bird seed. Obviously, the bird seed must
[49:32] not have any performance enhancing seeds within.
[49:36] That was part of OK, that's cool, Yeah.
[49:40] So I think we've reached our quota of questions for this
[49:44] week, but fear not, Rajiv is going to be back next week for
[49:49] one more episode before he decides to say goodbye to us.
[49:52] So let's start the wind up procedure for this episode.
[49:55] Aditya, what is your question for next week?
[49:58] Oh, that's very simple. If instead of a pigeon, it was a
[50:01] crow that was used to do the same thing, what would one say
[50:05] at the end of that challenge? And you shall find out in the
[50:09] next episode. I'm so proud of this question
[50:10] because I already know the answer.
[50:15] OK, coming back to the question I asked at the beginning of
[50:18] today's episode, at MIT you would get a certificate in what
[50:24] if you took archery, pistols, sailing and fencing as your
[50:28] required physical education classes?
[50:31] Rajeev and Aditya. Do you have any ideas on what
[50:33] kind of certification would you get if you took physical
[50:36] education classes and archery, pistols, sailing and fencing?
[50:42] Sounds like some fictional character.
[50:46] No, it's a certification in something like a.
[50:48] Yeah, it's like a certification in being Zorro or Legolas.
[50:55] Legolas. Yeah.
[50:56] Is am I on the right path or no? No, I mean like not.
[51:00] This is not fictional. Oh, OK, so it's an actual
[51:04] serious certification. It's not serious.
[51:07] Let's also be clear about that. It's not serious.
[51:10] OK. Not serious, but not fictional.
[51:12] Got it. My clue to you would be think
[51:14] historically, what would you be doing if you were expert in
[51:19] fencing, using guns, sailing and archery?
[51:24] Well, it's some sort of a explorer kind of thing.
[51:28] Close, but think the opposite side of the coin.
[51:32] Oh. Scout scouting?
[51:34] No. No, no, no, no, no.
[51:36] Say explorers are all upright. Very.
[51:38] Most of them, at least, you know, do it for the love of
[51:41] exploring, where they're very good and white motives.
[51:44] Think if your motives weren't so white.
[51:47] So like mercillary or something like that?
[51:50] OK. And closer, Closer.
[51:53] OK, pirate, Yes, so the so the Massachusetts Institute of
[51:59] Technology, MIT would give you a certificate in piracy.
[52:03] Oh really? That's a good funda.
[52:07] So all you know, it started in 2011.
[52:09] Students who completed archery fencing pistol, which is air
[52:12] pistol or rifle and sailing should send an e-mail to Ahoy
[52:17] Mighty P which is a HOYMITPE at mit.edu with their name and MIT
[52:24] ID number and they would get the certificate.
[52:27] And I shit you not, this is an actual disclaimer on the MIT
[52:30] website. The MIT Pirate Certificate is
[52:34] for entertainment purposes only and does not give the recipient
[52:37] license to engage in piracy or any pirate activities.
[52:44] OK then. That would be a very interesting
[52:46] pirate who refuses to do piracy till they have a certificate
[52:50] saying that. True that, True that.
[52:55] So Aditya any pop culture recommendations for this week?
[53:00] You've already mentioned Vox videos.
[53:02] So I'll leave the bulk of the pop culture recommendations to
[53:05] our guest. He's welcome to share all of his
[53:08] favorite movies, books, music. Rajeev, do you have any pop
[53:12] culture recommendations for our audience this week?
[53:15] Yes, kind of off the top of my head.
[53:17] All I can think of is something pretty weird, but it is
[53:20] something that and also it's it's a recommendation that will
[53:24] probably classify me as a bit of a VN person, but I highly
[53:28] recommend sheep shearing. Videos.
[53:32] I know. I know what it is.
[53:34] Very satisfying. So satisfying.
[53:39] I feel you, I feel you. They are very oddly satisfying
[53:43] and sometimes I watch like a a few of them in a chunk and it
[53:47] just completely relaxes me. So that and the horse hoof
[53:53] whatever something hoof shouting or something.
[53:56] It's not. It is Doctor Hoof.
[53:59] The YouTube channel is called Doctor.
[54:00] Who? Yeah.
[54:01] Yeah, I have watched that. Correct.
[54:04] Correct. Yeah.
[54:06] Or It is so satisfying. It's so satisfying.
[54:08] Just the best. Yeah, that is a fantastic
[54:11] recommendation. Not weird at all, because
[54:13] clearly all of us do it. You have to understand you're
[54:16] among a community of weirdos. This is normal.
[54:18] For us, yeah, this is normal. Well, there's this particular
[54:21] one of this sheep which just looks like a huge ball of dirt.
[54:28] You know you can't see any any any sheeply parts in it but you
[54:33] know when she's, when she's done with the shearing, this, this
[54:36] sheet just looks like a new bot baby kind of thing and it's
[54:39] amazing to see the transformation well.
[54:44] So that's why like a an echo. I don't know how many people are
[54:48] actually going to follow up on that.
[54:49] I suspect there might be a quite a few.
[54:53] Great. Aditya, what's up with you?
[54:55] I don't even know how to top that anymore.
[54:57] That's such a lovely recommendation, but I have just
[55:00] a single recommendation and I was going through my list of
[55:04] books recently and I decided to pick one from years ago that I
[55:07] loved. And I would love for more people
[55:10] to read it, even though a lot of people probably heard of it.
[55:13] If not the book, the movie Cloud Atlas.
[55:16] And while the movie is decent, I think the book is pretty great
[55:20] and definitely worth checking out.
[55:22] It's it's one of those books which has an advantage of when
[55:26] you read it, you're like, oh, this is a lovely use of the
[55:29] format of literature that the author has used it creatively
[55:33] and in a, well, unusual way. I would say so.
[55:37] So check it out, a lovely piece of fiction.
[55:39] Nice. I'm going to give a
[55:41] recommendation, which is something I would probably not
[55:45] have done a year or two years ago because of the fact that
[55:49] it's a very niche industry. So I'm going to be recommending
[55:51] A Malayalam film today. Now that Malayalam films have
[55:55] gone more into the mainstream and they're available with
[55:57] subtitles on various OTT platforms, I feel comfortable
[56:01] recommending this movie. Don't try pronouncing it, I'll
[56:04] just tell you the translation in English so that you can use that
[56:07] name. The name of the movie is Ilavira
[56:09] Poonjira, which literally translates to The Valley Where
[56:13] Leaves Don't Fall. It is a mystery thriller, very
[56:19] claustrophobic, set on at a wireless station on top of a
[56:23] hill in Kerala. There are very few characters
[56:27] and there is a twist that I never saw coming.
[56:33] The twist is, it is a fantastic twist.
[56:37] And I guarantee you, unless you're superhuman, you will not
[56:41] see that twist coming at all. And the way they just ratchet up
[56:45] the tension. The movie is a year old, I think
[56:48] a year, year and a half old. I watched it at that time, but
[56:50] now that a lot more people I know are coming up to me and
[56:53] saying that, oh, I watched that Malayalam film and it was great.
[56:57] And now there are subtitles available.
[56:58] So this is available on Prime Video, Ilavira Poonchira.
[57:03] We'll, I'll put it up on the show notes or we'll put it up on
[57:05] Instagram so you can find out how to get to that movie.
[57:08] But that's my recommendation for this week.
[57:12] Perfect. That's the greatest limitation,
[57:14] yes. So that's all for this episode.
[57:16] We'll be back with Rajeev for episode #65.
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