# Episode 045 - Die Hard, The Last Supper & Hawaiian Shirts

An episode of [Are You Quizzing Me?](https://invisiblenetwork.ai/podcast/1663104901), 21 Nov 2023, 45 min.

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Do you know what theory proposed by Ignaz Semmelweis was universally rejected initially, but eventually earned him the nickname "saviour of mothers"? Do you know why does Brevard County in the USA have the phone code 321? Do you know which movie was the novel "Nothing Lasts Forever" adapted into? Tune in to find out! You can reach us at Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/areyouquizzingme/ Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/areyouquizzingme Email: areyouquizzingme@gmail.com

## Transcript

[0:01] Welcome to RU Quizzing Me. I'm Vineet Mayer with my Co host
[0:05] Aditya Kashyap. This is a quizzing trivia
[0:07] podcast show. Join us as we dive deep into
[0:10] history, science, sport, pop culture, and so much more.
[0:13] Pesky Quizzing And we're back for episode #45 of RU Quizzing
[0:24] Me, Your Favorite Quizzing Trivia podcast show with your
[0:27] hosts Aditya and I Vineet. As usual with our new format,
[0:34] let's start off with an audience question.
[0:36] And the audience question for today is Geosmin is an organic
[0:41] compound that gives beetroots its taste.
[0:44] It's also accountable for something people would
[0:46] experience most frequently during the first few weeks of
[0:51] the monsoon. What else, apart from the taste
[0:55] of beetroots, is geosmin accountable for?
[1:00] I'll reveal the answer to this question at the end of today's
[1:02] episode. And now the time that we have
[1:06] all that we all wait for at in every episode.
[1:10] Aditya's magical question So, Aditya, what is your question
[1:14] that you had asked at the end of last week's episode, to which
[1:16] you will now make up an answer for?
[1:23] Beneath I do not appreciate the insinuation that my answers are
[1:27] not. Somehow linked to facts, even
[1:31] though that is a fact that they're not.
[1:34] I just. I dislike the assertion of
[1:39] having said that the question last week was about the origins
[1:42] of the word Oreo and the biscuit Oreo.
[1:45] And I countered your question with my own question of why is
[1:51] that origin that you mentioned not the right origin and the
[1:53] actual origin is an Indian language origin.
[1:57] And here is the answer for the word Oreo and how it is related
[2:01] to an Indian language, in this case Rajasthani.
[2:05] You know there was once a hot summer's day in Jaipur and there
[2:09] was a young child who had recently acquired a biscuit and
[2:16] was looking forward to consuming it.
[2:19] Except that in some part of the day-to-day activity he lost
[2:24] track of where he kept his biscuit and he was very
[2:26] flustered. So after trying to search for it
[2:29] for quite a while, he goes up to his mother and he says Mara
[2:33] Biscuit Kathegayo and his mother says Oreo and that is how the
[2:42] biscuit Oreo was named. Vineet I I bow down to your
[2:48] genius because that literally was a genius.
[2:53] I had no idea how you were going to wriggle out of, you know, how
[2:57] to make audio from an Indian language.
[2:59] But you have done it and with a story and character work along
[3:04] with it, take a bath. I mean like it's it's it's it's
[3:10] fate that right now and we are recording this at I think a good
[3:14] 115 at 2:00 something at night. Aditya looks like a mad
[3:18] scientist after a long day at the at his laboratory trying to
[3:21] take over the world and he's come up with a genius answer.
[3:25] So hats off to you. I really like that by the.
[3:30] Way I slowly take over the world with bad puns.
[3:32] That is the long term goal of this podcast.
[3:35] OK, nice, nice. So after that brilliant answer
[3:40] by Aditya, let me start off with a brilliant question sent in by
[3:44] one of our listeners. So the listener who sent it in
[3:48] is Doctor Praveen from Kottam and his question goes as
[3:53] follows. Ignac Samuel Wise was born in
[3:57] 1818 and completed medicine in 1844.
[4:01] He then joined in obstetrics and gynecology at Vienna General
[4:04] Hospital in 1845. He was shocked to find that the
[4:10] mortality in the clinic where doctors undertook the delivery
[4:14] was much higher compared to the rates in clinics where midwives
[4:18] and nurses undertook delivery. He proposed the theory as to the
[4:23] cause of this high mortality rate, which was almost
[4:25] universally rejected. He was dismissed from the
[4:29] hospital for political reasons and harassed by the medical
[4:32] community in Vienna. Being eventually forced to move
[4:35] to Budapest, Semel Wise was outraged by the indifference of
[4:40] the medical profession and began writing open and increasingly
[4:43] angry letters to prominent European obstetricians.
[4:47] His contemporaries and including his wife, believed he was losing
[4:52] his mind, and in 1865, nearly 20 years after his breakthrough
[4:58] theory, he was committed to the and I'm going to butcher this
[5:03] pronunciation, Landis Serra Nastalt, Dublin, which was a
[5:08] provincial lunatic asylum. He died there of septic shock
[5:12] only 14 days later, possibly as a result of being severely
[5:16] beaten by guards. What was Samir Weiss's
[5:21] unbelievable hypothesis, at least unbelievable to the
[5:25] physicians of that time? This is a great question, and it
[5:31] just so happens that I encountered this fact many years
[5:34] ago when I bought a book. I don't know if you had this
[5:38] growing up, but we used to have Scholastic book Scholastic.
[5:42] In our schools, in one of those school fairs, I bought this book
[5:46] which said accidental discoveries of humankind.
[5:49] So this is considered one of those accidental discoveries
[5:52] because he accidentally chanced upon this fact and he made an
[5:56] assertion from it. And I believe the answer is just
[5:59] antiseptic procedures to be followed before deliveries.
[6:04] The midwives would wash their hands, whereas the doctors would
[6:06] not wash their hands, which would lead to.
[6:11] I was fairly sure you would guess this question because you
[6:14] had guessed this as one of the answers for a previous question
[6:17] in a previous episode. So I was fairly sure he knows
[6:20] this, he knows this fact, but it's a very beautifully framed
[6:23] question by Doctor Praveen and I I just had to ask it.
[6:26] So yes, you're right, he is you. It is about basic antiseptic
[6:30] procedures and it was as simple as hand washing.
[6:35] It was as simple as that. So according to Semmelweis
[6:39] hypothesis, he hypothesized that doctors needed to clean their
[6:42] hands with Lyme before undertaking delivery as they
[6:46] were coming after the dissections of cadavers.
[6:51] According to his hypothesis, there was only one cause and all
[6:54] that mattered was cleanliness, and this was an extreme thought
[6:58] of the time and was ignored, rejected or ridiculed.
[7:01] All the horrible things that happened to him happened as I
[7:05] mentioned, and his practice of hand washing earned widespread
[7:10] acceptance only years after his death when Louis Pasteur
[7:15] developed the germ theory of disease.
[7:17] That disease is caused by microscopic organisms, the germs
[7:21] and offering a theoretical explanation for Samuel Weiss's
[7:24] findings. And because of this, he
[7:26] summarizes now today considered a pioneer of antiseptic
[7:29] procedures and is also known as the saviour of mothers.
[7:34] Yeah, that's that's a phrase that rings a bell, because I
[7:36] remember reading something like that.
[7:38] Very cool. So thank you.
[7:40] Doctor Praveen from Kottium. It's a brilliant question.
[7:43] He himself, I believe, is a doctor of community medicine, of
[7:46] preventive and social medicine. So this would be a topic here to
[7:49] his heart. Thank you for the question.
[7:51] And I passed the baton now to Aditya.
[7:56] I do have an audience question to ask, but before I do, your
[8:00] question reminded me of a piece of trivia, so I'm going to ask
[8:03] you that first. So, as you mentioned, this
[8:08] particular Hungarian Dr., was it?
[8:11] He was from Vienna. Austrian Dr. Sorry.
[8:15] OK. So the Austrian Dr. that you
[8:17] mentioned? It was recognized much later,
[8:21] and you mentioned the name Louis Pasteur, which is of course
[8:24] remember today as pasteurization in the context of.
[8:28] Milk specifically, there is another very famous doctor
[8:33] associated with this particular field, and this was in the field
[8:37] of surgery. This doctor is a British surgeon
[8:42] actually, and he was a surgeon, a medical scientist,
[8:45] pathologist. And a pioneer of antiseptic
[8:48] surgery and preventative medicine.
[8:51] OK. I see you smiling.
[8:53] I feel like you already know the answer.
[8:54] No, no, no I. Because it just suddenly hit me
[8:57] that when you said pathologist, if I don't get this now, it's
[9:00] going to be really? Horrible.
[9:02] Oh yes, Vineet, your reputation is on the line.
[9:06] OK, This particular doctor, he was active in the late 19th
[9:11] century and he passed away in 1912 and.
[9:17] He basically is credited with having done a lot for the field
[9:20] of surgery, especially in the space of antiseptic surgery and
[9:25] practices. His name is immortalized today,
[9:30] just like Lewis Pasteurist immortalizes pasteurization.
[9:33] Can you take a guess without me giving any more hints?
[9:36] This is pretty vague at this point, but can you take this
[9:38] too? I think I know this.
[9:40] This is Joseph Lister, and he's immortalized in Listerine, which
[9:44] is a mouthwash, basically. There can be no questions raised
[9:50] as to we need credibility as a pathologist.
[9:56] That was a very quick crack, yes.
[9:58] This is Joseph Lister, as I mentioned, a British surgeon who
[10:03] pretty much pioneered a lot in the space of surgery and
[10:07] antiseptic surgery specifically and when in I believe 1869 when?
[10:16] 1879 apologies 1879 When Listerine antiseptic was
[10:20] invented, the American inventor Joseph Lawrence decided to name
[10:25] it Listerine to honour Joseph Lister.
[10:28] That's where we get the name. Nice, Nice.
[10:33] I can just say I'm very relieved that I got that one.
[10:40] So I'll ask you another question.
[10:43] Completely different from what we've been talking about in
[10:45] medicine and whatnot. So you know about area phone
[10:48] codes in the US, right? So if you ever watched a movie,
[10:53] they always start with 555, right?
[10:57] It's one of those codes. So they don't want to use actual
[10:59] telephone numbers. So for from Time, Memorial
[11:02] Hollywood has used 555 as the area code in any phone number
[11:07] that you see on in your movies from Hollywood.
[11:10] This is something related to phone codes.
[11:13] I was just giving that as an introduction.
[11:15] Originally the area phone code 321 was meant for suburban
[11:20] Chicago. However, after a successful
[11:22] petition by Robert Osband, Brevard County got the area code
[11:27] of 321. Why was this area code given to
[11:32] Brevard County? There's a petition, and the
[11:38] petition was successful and they got the area code 321.
[11:41] Yes, 3/21 was meant for a suburban Chicago, and after a
[11:46] successful petition, it got shifted to Brevard County.
[11:50] I don't have any context, but 321 makes me feel like.
[11:56] Did it have anything to do with the race starting or the launch
[12:00] of rocket or something? OK.
[12:04] You're very warm. So why?
[12:07] Why would it? Why would it have been given to
[12:09] Brevard County? I'm assuming there's a famous
[12:13] countdown that happened there, and the only thing I can think
[12:16] of is something to do with Apollo space missions or space
[12:22] missions. Yes.
[12:24] So what place? I'm trying to remember the name
[12:27] of that that famous point launch point that a lot of these
[12:32] rockets were? Yes, yes, yes.
[12:36] So you've got the basic quizzing Fundra, to put it in Indian
[12:38] terms, but I was just looking to see if you can identify the name
[12:43] of the place from which these rockets are launched.
[12:48] I want to say again and again, bikini at all is coming to mind,
[12:53] and I know that's not the right answer, but that has to do with
[12:55] the atom of the nuclear tests. The nuclear test, Yes.
[13:00] Is it the? Kennedy Space Lodge The Kennedy
[13:05] Space Center is where, again, I'm looking for the name of the
[13:10] geographical name of the place. Again, now I'm thinking of Men
[13:13] in black because there is a seed in men in black when they're
[13:15] there. Yes.
[13:16] And men in black. Three.
[13:17] Yes, you're right. Wow, I can only think of pop
[13:19] culture reference. So the name you're looking for
[13:24] was Cape. Canaveral.
[13:26] Cape Canaveral, of course. Yes, yes, yes.
[13:30] So just to wrap it up for you, the area code 321 was originally
[13:33] meant for Chicago, but after Robert Osmond successfully
[13:37] raised a petition, it was moved to Brevard County in Florida
[13:43] because Brevard County is home to Cape Canaveral and the
[13:45] Kennedy Space Center. And the committee agreed that
[13:48] Robert Osmond's argument that the area code 321, which would
[13:53] signify a lift off, he was more suited for Brevard County than
[13:57] somewhere in Chicago. So hit me with your question.
[14:01] So now we go to the audience question that was proposed by
[14:05] Mr. Rupesh. He posed a question a couple of.
[14:08] Weeks ago and he has decided to send us another question.
[14:12] So thank you. I think last time you pointed
[14:15] out how I promised you a verbatim question, and I didn't
[14:18] ask it verbatim, so before I. Before I even ask the question,
[14:23] I want to point out that Rupesh in his e-mail said just want to
[14:26] add a note saying it doesn't have to be verbatim.
[14:29] If you guys like it, you can chop it up and ask like you feel
[14:33] it. So Rupesh definitely took your
[14:37] feedback very seriously. I promised the verbatim question
[14:41] and I didn't ask. SO Rupesh, let me clarify.
[14:45] This was no reflection on your question.
[14:48] I blame Aditya completely on his.
[14:50] False promises. I I take all take all the fault
[14:54] here. Rupesh's question was very well
[14:55] phrased both previously and this time around.
[14:58] OK, which brings us to the question.
[14:59] And since you spoke of a historical event happening at
[15:04] Cape Canaveral, history is a good segue into Rupesh's
[15:08] question. So Rosalind Miles is an author.
[15:12] Have you heard of Rosalind Miles?
[15:13] We need name rings a bell, but no.
[15:17] OK, I wouldn't be able to commit to anything with just the name.
[15:20] Well. A fairly prolific English
[15:23] author, so maybe you have at least heard of her if not read
[15:27] her books, Is an English author, historian, university lecturer,
[15:30] broadcaster, journalist and an activist who has written 23
[15:34] works of fiction and non fiction OK?
[15:37] Doctor Miles International Best Selling Book X charts the untold
[15:43] history of Vivid. Now the title of X is in the
[15:48] form of a question itself. The reason that Rosalind Miles
[15:52] chose this particular title in her own words was because she
[15:57] says that women have been left out of history all along, and X.
[16:02] The question itself is an interesting way to frame that,
[16:06] because if the answer to X was a man.
[16:11] Everybody would know the answer to X, but because it was
[16:14] probably a woman, nobody really knows what the answer to X is.
[16:18] Or that's not a settled question.
[16:22] Do you want to take a guess? And I will give you more hints
[16:24] as we go forward. But do you want to take a guess
[16:26] as to what X could be? Absolutely no.
[16:31] I have no clue. I'm OK.
[16:33] So this is a book about basically the unsung heroines
[16:39] you're saying of history, right? Yeah, and the title of the book
[16:44] is a question. Yes.
[16:47] Who was the first Queen? No, that's the city.
[16:50] No, I don't know. You'll have to give me a clue.
[16:51] You'll have to give me some kind of clue.
[16:53] All right, so you you've gotten the gist of what the question
[16:57] is. Let us now try to narrow it
[16:58] down. Right.
[16:59] This question pertains specifically to the
[17:02] Judeo-christian religion, Christianity specifically, and
[17:06] points out a very specific point in the history.
[17:10] Of I guess the New Testament, a significant event that happened
[17:15] there. And it poses the question who
[17:18] was responsible, And I put responsible in courts there when
[17:22] I say it. Who was responsible for that
[17:25] event or who was the one who facilitated that event?
[17:29] In a way you could phrase it. And that is something like
[17:33] regarding Mary Magdalene, who married Jesus or something.
[17:38] I don't know. Because when you say the New
[17:41] Testament and unsung women from that, the classical figure from
[17:45] that would be Mary Magdalene made famous through, you know,
[17:50] holy blood and brown. And fantastic guests over there.
[17:54] But let me actually try to be a bit more specific about what the
[17:57] question is. What the trivia is over here.
[18:00] The trivia is the fact that. This question itself X which is
[18:03] in the form of a question right A who question.
[18:07] It's a who question and the answer to X.
[18:10] If it had been a man, that man would be very famous.
[18:14] And because it was probably a woman, we today don't know who
[18:19] that person is or the answer to that question is.
[18:22] So I'm asking you not who the person is.
[18:25] I'm not asking you who the person is, I'm asking you what
[18:27] the question is, which is the title of and it's a who
[18:30] question, as in who something something.
[18:32] Yeah, you said New Testament and something that's pivotal event
[18:37] in the New Testament, right? Yes.
[18:40] Is it the wedding at Kana? No, OK.
[18:45] I mean like, so I'm just trying to get the event.
[18:47] So then it might become It's a New Testament.
[18:50] There's so many, I mean. There are too many over there,
[18:53] so let me give you one more hint on top of it, Something which is
[18:57] immortalized in art. And I mean visual art.
[19:03] Aditya, you do realize that that half of Renaissance art was
[19:08] based off the Bible and the remaining half was based of
[19:12] Greek and Roman legends? I'd argue that if you were to
[19:15] name three pieces of artwork from the Renaissance period
[19:19] which had to do with the New Testament, this would feature in
[19:23] the top three OK, New Testament. That rules out Michelangelo's
[19:30] Sistine Chapel, the Pieta, the statue of the Pieta, the Last
[19:36] Supper. Yeah.
[19:38] Before you go any further, Last Supper is the event in question.
[19:42] Now can you just give me what the?
[19:44] X is what X is. I'm reminded of the last episode
[19:48] you told me. Thank you for taking me by hand
[19:50] with the cancer. This is exactly what I feel like
[19:52] right now. You're like, pushing me, you
[19:54] know, step by step towards the answer.
[19:56] OK, so this is the Last Supper. So who?
[19:59] Something. Something.
[20:01] At the Last Supper, Yeah, And it has to do with women.
[20:07] But there are no women on the Last Supper.
[20:09] Who? Remember, I used the words very
[20:12] specifically. Who created or who facilitated
[20:15] or who made something happen was how I prompted you towards the
[20:21] question X. So who Dash the Last Supper?
[20:26] Who dash the Last Supper? Who catered the Last Supper?
[20:34] Who cooked the Last Supper? Are you kidding me?
[20:37] Seriously. That is the name of the book,
[20:40] yes. The name of Rosalind Miles's
[20:42] best selling book actually is called I'm not read this, I have
[20:46] to find this book. Yeah, I love the fact that it's
[20:50] it's such an intriguing question in and of itself.
[20:52] Who cooked the Last Supper? The women's history of the
[20:56] world. That's the name of the book, and
[20:58] the reason that Rosalind Miles feels like.
[21:01] If it had been a man who had cooked the Last Supper, we would
[21:04] probably all know the name of this person.
[21:07] That person might have even achieved sainthood or some level
[21:11] of very high recognition in the Church itself.
[21:14] And because it was probably a woman who did it, we all are
[21:18] completely unaware of who this individual might have been in
[21:22] history, in a very important, pivotal moment in one of the
[21:25] largest religions on earth. And we do not know, because it
[21:29] might have been a woman. No, this is a very pertinent
[21:32] one, because it twice in my life I've gone down a rabbit hole
[21:36] between the Last Supper and the Holy Grail.
[21:38] Once was when I saw Indiana Jones and the Last Crusade,
[21:43] right in which the Mcguffin is the Holy Grail.
[21:45] And the second time was after I read The Da Vinci Code.
[21:48] And then I went back and read the Holy Blood, Holy Grail and
[21:51] all, and I went through this kind of rabbit hole, reading up
[21:54] all the theories and things and analysis of the painting.
[21:58] To be honest, it never once occurred to me that somebody
[22:01] must have cooked the meal for them.
[22:03] OK. This question was thanks to
[22:05] Rupesh. And once again, Rupesh, you have
[22:07] sent us a cracker of a question. Thank you so much.
[22:10] I appreciate sending questions and Aditya thank you for
[22:14] gingerly hand holding me towards the answer.
[22:18] No, it was a lovely piece of trivia and I had to make sure
[22:21] that you got there because that would otherwise if you would not
[22:24] be doing justice to this great question.
[22:27] So, yay. All right, we need your turn.
[22:29] OK, so in 1975, Roderick Thorpe saw the movie The Towering
[22:37] Inferno. The movie is about a skyscraper
[22:40] that catches fire later that night.
[22:42] With the plot of the movie fresh in his mind, Pop dreamt of a man
[22:47] being chased through a skyscraper.
[22:50] He converted that into a novel called Nothing Lasts Forever.
[22:56] Prior to this, Roderick Thorpe had written a novel in 1968
[23:00] called The Detective, which was made into a movie in 1968
[23:03] starring Frank Sinatra. So when the time came to adapt
[23:08] Nothing Lasts Forever into a movie.
[23:10] He wanted it to be a sequel to the movie The Detective, which
[23:14] was starring Frank Sinatra. The movie was supposed to take
[23:17] place 4 decades after the events of The detective, so Sinatra by
[23:21] that time was of that age. So they approached him.
[23:23] But Sinatra said no. The role, after being offered to
[23:29] some of the biggest action stars of the decade, went to ATV
[23:34] actor, and the role catapulted him to fame.
[23:37] Which movie? Which actor?
[23:40] The book's name is. Nothing lasts forever.
[23:46] I knew it. I can see that smirk on your
[23:49] face when I was reading out the question.
[23:51] And I knew you knew this. Yes.
[23:53] Elaborate and elucidate for our audience.
[23:55] Aditya. The reason I know this is
[23:57] because perhaps I've heard of this trivia slightly differently
[24:00] from what I remember reading was that the producers were
[24:03] contractually obligated to ask Frank Sinatra 1st.
[24:07] And this did go out of that contractual obligation.
[24:11] And Frank Sinatra obviously turned the role down of John
[24:14] McLean, which went to Bruce Willis.
[24:17] And that is how we have the iconic Die Hard, the best action
[24:22] movie of the 20th century. Let's be honest.
[24:25] Oh, that's a bold claim to make the best action movie.
[24:28] OK, OK, Yeah. I mean, like it is a flawless
[24:32] action movie. It's got great one liners.
[24:35] It's got great practical effects.
[24:38] It's not CJ almost of all of it is practical effects.
[24:41] It's got a great charismatic lead.
[24:44] The action is practically non-stop from the beginning to
[24:46] the end. And like all great movies, it's
[24:49] set during a holiday. So it's a Christmas movie?
[24:52] It is a great Christmas movie that I would have to give to
[24:55] you. Yes.
[24:56] Yeah. So to give a little bit of
[24:58] context, the original novel called The Detective, The first
[25:01] book that I was talking about, Robert, he created a detective
[25:04] by the name of Joe Leyland. So when he wrote the sequel
[25:07] book, which is Nothing Lasts Forever, he also featured
[25:11] Detective Joe Leyland and instead of Nakatomi Plaza, it
[25:14] was the Klaxon Oil Corporation building.
[25:17] This role was offered to. After Sonata turned it down, it
[25:20] was offered to Arnold Schwarzenegger, it was offered
[25:23] to Sylvester Stallone, and when they all turned it down, it went
[25:26] to an actor, ATV actor. Now, most people don't know
[25:29] this. You obviously may, but most
[25:32] people don't know that Bruce Willis started off as ATV actor.
[25:37] He was a part of this brilliant show called Moonlighting where
[25:40] he played a detective who was the front for Cybil.
[25:43] Shepherd's actual detective with the series was called
[25:46] Moonlighting. I remember watching it as a kid
[25:49] and Bruce Willis got his break in that.
[25:51] But he was considered ATV actor, and his occasional forays into
[25:55] movies turned out to be flops until he took up Die Hard, and
[26:00] that changed his career forever. So this is interesting because
[26:05] there's a lot of fun to be attached to Die Hard, and I'm
[26:09] going to share a few and just do it.
[26:10] This is not a question. I'm not posing any questions
[26:12] here, just sharing trivia. I remember.
[26:14] I know Bruce Willis donated John Mcclean's undershirt to the
[26:18] Smithsonian Museum. So that iconic under shirt that
[26:21] he's wearing has been donated. There is a very iconic scene
[26:25] between Bruce Willis and Alan Rickman when they first meet and
[26:29] that is a completely improvised scene and it was unrehearsed.
[26:34] Sorry, actually it is not an improvising, but it is an
[26:36] unrehearsed scene and they wanted to get more spontaneity
[26:39] out of the actors, which apparently is also the case for
[26:43] another very iconic scene. Do you know which to screen
[26:46] Legends for the first time? When they met on screen, were
[26:50] also actually interacting potentially ever in their lives
[26:55] as well in die Hard screen, no. Not in Die Hard.
[27:00] Not in Die Hard, OK. No, no, no, no.
[27:03] Go off on your tangent. Come on, come on.
[27:04] Tell me. Tell me.
[27:05] No, I'm saying, do you know which two other screen legends
[27:08] had never really spoken to each other properly till the time
[27:13] they were filming a scene which turns out to be one of the most
[27:16] iconic scenes in an action film? As well, is it OK?
[27:19] I'm going to guess. Is this Michael Mann's Heat?
[27:23] Robert De Niro and Al Pacino? It is the cafe scene between
[27:28] Robert De Niro and Al Pacino. It was the first time that they
[27:30] were interacting properly, even personally.
[27:34] As themselves and of course as their characters filming the
[27:38] scene. So it was one of the first.
[27:39] Oh, that is right. Heat, by the way, to my
[27:42] audience. I mean like it's a 90s movie.
[27:44] It, I don't know, I don't see it on many lists.
[27:46] But it is a criminally underrated movie.
[27:50] You have to watch it. If not for the fact that Robert
[27:53] De Niro and Al Pacino and Val Kilmer in one movie, and
[27:58] apparently the the there is a bank robbery scene and then
[28:02] there's a shootout by the robbers while they're trying to
[28:05] get away. And I read somewhere that it is
[28:08] so accurate that certain police departments actually use that as
[28:13] a training video to show how effectively to cover a retreat.
[28:19] And one of the reasons it's so accurate is because they also
[28:21] used very authentic sounds. So apparently the equation they
[28:24] used was very close to what I remember watching that movie for
[28:28] the first time. And when somebody would fire a
[28:30] bullet, I could hear an echo. And I was like, why is this
[28:34] sounding like an echo? But that's apparently what
[28:36] happens in a like in a city like New York or somewhere where you
[28:39] have buildings lining up, you have pop up this really loud
[28:42] sound, it will echo off the buildings.
[28:46] It's an amazing, amazing movie. Amazing movie.
[28:50] Well, coming back to die hard though, a couple of pieces of
[28:53] trivia still that tickle my funny bone.
[28:57] And Bruce Willis is considered that all American hero, and he's
[29:00] mocked for it in the film by these quote UN quote, German
[29:04] terrorists. Turns out Bruce Willis is
[29:06] actually more German than most of the other villains because
[29:09] Alan Rickman obviously is English.
[29:11] The other guy, Alexander Goodo, was Russian.
[29:14] Bruce Willis was actually born in West Germany to an American
[29:18] father and a German mother. So I did not know that.
[29:22] There is that little connection. He's half German.
[29:25] Yeah, and Speaking of the villains, do you know, because
[29:28] you mentioned Bruce Willis being cast after his TVC actor stint,
[29:32] Alan Rickman was not quite sure that he wanted to play a villain
[29:36] because he had arrived in Hollywood only two days earlier
[29:39] when he was cast on this film as the main antagonist and he
[29:43] wanted to make his Hollywood foray.
[29:45] And he did struggle for quite a while to drop the villain
[29:49] typecast for many years because he did such a fantastic job,
[29:52] obviously. OK.
[29:55] So that was some Die hard trivia.
[29:57] To round up your very beautiful question about Die Hard.
[30:00] I love it. Nice and cracker.
[30:03] I had no idea. Bruce Willis is half German.
[30:07] Well, it's a freebie for this episode then, I guess.
[30:10] All right, Speaking of things, which are iconic, very poor
[30:15] segue coming up. OK, have you heard of the
[30:19] Hawaiian Fashion Guild? I can confidently say this is
[30:22] the first time I'm getting those 3 words put together.
[30:26] OK. You know, I've started asking
[30:27] this in the beginning of questions because there are so
[30:29] many questions that I will just give you those keywords that I
[30:32] already know. You know the piece of trivia
[30:33] attached to it. Ensure the beginning of my
[30:37] question. I hope this is the first.
[30:40] This will be a first. I love that.
[30:43] All right. OK, so Hawaiian fashion guilt,
[30:46] as the name suggests, is a fashion guilt based in Hawaii,
[30:49] One of the famous. Outputs is what is called the
[30:52] Aloha shirt. The Aloha shirt, also called a
[30:56] Hawaiian shirt, is a style of dress shirt which originated in
[30:59] Hawaii. They're usually colored and
[31:02] buttoned round dress shirts, usually short, sleeved and made
[31:04] from printed fabric. They are traditionally won't
[31:08] untagged, but can be tugged into waist of trousers.
[31:11] They're worn casually or as an informal business attire in
[31:13] Hawaii, and it is pretty iconic of the Hawaiian culture.
[31:19] The Hawaiian Fashion Guild wanted to promote this back in
[31:21] 1962. What did they come up with that
[31:26] till today is still fairly prevalent in the world?
[31:31] You know, when you started asking this question, I was
[31:36] fairly around 50% confident that this would be going towards Tom
[31:40] Selleck and Magnum Pi because him and his Hawaiian T-shirts
[31:45] are iconic from the the TV show, not the new TV show.
[31:49] I'm talking about the one from the 80s, but OK, so this is the
[31:52] 60s. The moment you said the 60s, I
[31:54] was like, OK, crap, This is something else.
[31:57] It's something to promote the shirts, right?
[32:01] Something done to promote the shirts.
[32:05] And it's some kind of commercials.
[32:06] Like Hawaiian commercials always had people with no, right.
[32:11] It can't be something as simple as that.
[32:13] You wouldn't ask me if it was that simple, OK?
[32:15] Did they have some kind of ambassador or some celebrity to
[32:18] wear it? Let me actually rephrase the
[32:20] part of the question that you might have missed.
[32:22] They started something, or it initiated from 1962, which is
[32:28] still very commonplace in the world today.
[32:32] So it isn't one single ad or one single celebrity appearance.
[32:36] It isn't anything like that. They started something and that
[32:40] is still common in the world today.
[32:43] Is it like using Hawaii as a film location and they have to
[32:47] have people wearing this in the background?
[32:49] No. Something like that is a very
[32:50] interesting guess, but not the right guess.
[32:53] OK, what else could they do that can still be done today?
[32:58] The 60s and now. Wait, did they give free Aloha
[33:02] T-shirt? Do they Do you get a free Aloha
[33:04] shirt when you go to Hawaii? I know when you land in Hawaii,
[33:07] they give you the the lay. No, that isn't the.
[33:11] Answer here. OK, you'll have to give me a
[33:14] clue. So I'll just restate one thing
[33:17] that I already said. It is prevalent across the world
[33:20] and now I'll give you a clue. So hopefully that guides you a
[33:22] bit closer, OK. Let's say that this might have
[33:27] lost its relevance of significance slightly since
[33:30] 2020. You say 2020.
[33:33] Obviously it's COVID, so it's lost its relevance post COVID.
[33:41] This practice has lost its relevance as much since COVID I.
[33:46] That actually confuses me a little more, because when you
[33:49] say COVID, like what did people start doing once you got hit
[33:52] COVID people started wearing masks.
[33:55] But then this is your the US you're talking about.
[33:56] So maybe people stopped wearing masks, but no.
[34:01] But in our fairness of masks and hand washing, those are two
[34:04] major habits that changed during the COVID pandemic.
[34:08] So and social distancing during the pandemic that's also there.
[34:12] But then it wouldn't have lost its because people have stopped
[34:14] social distancing now and stopped wearing masks as well.
[34:18] So I am completely clueless here.
[34:21] You're actually not quite off the mug, because yes, social
[34:25] distancing has pretty much gone to the wayside.
[34:28] Mask wearing is also not very common anymore.
[34:30] Hopefully hand washing still exists, but what is something
[34:34] that COVID fundamentally changed in the way people lead their
[34:36] lives? And I would say a privileged
[34:39] elite, at least across the world and which is why I emphasize on
[34:43] across the world they lead their lives or they used to live their
[34:46] lives in a specific way. That COVID pretty much changed
[34:49] for a lot of us. Is it vacations to Hawaii?
[34:54] No, OK. Let us actually be a little bit
[34:57] more specific. It has to do with office culture
[35:01] luaus. Office luaus or something.
[35:04] They dig a pit and roast pork. No, I am gone.
[35:09] I have. I'm out of guesses right now.
[35:11] You'll just have to tell me what this is.
[35:13] I will give you the answer then, Vineet.
[35:15] The answer is Casual Fridays. The concept of Casual Fridays.
[35:21] OK. OK, here's here's the thing.
[35:25] When I was asking this question, I was like Vineet might not know
[35:27] about this because he works in a lab.
[35:30] He gets to have casual Fridays, the medical industry, the
[35:34] healthcare industry. We don't have casual anything.
[35:39] OK, so for the rest of us who who can afford to not care so
[35:42] much about our ad, I whenever we go into work, we have this
[35:45] concept of a casual Friday. And if I'm in a minority here,
[35:49] because I've also been in the tech space where it feels like
[35:52] they wear casual clothes all the time, All the time, yeah.
[35:56] I will. I will encourage our audience
[35:57] members to correct my notion of this and it may hit us up.
[36:01] And let us know. But from what I understand a lot
[36:03] of corporate spaces on most days of the week you are supposed to
[36:06] wear proper formal attire, or at least used to be the case still
[36:10] a few years ago. And then on Fridays you could
[36:12] wear slightly more business casual attire, which is called
[36:16] Casual Fridays. It started off with the Hawaiian
[36:19] fashion guilt when they were trying to promote the idea of
[36:22] wearing Aloha Wear or Aloha shirts to work.
[36:25] So shirt designers started coming up with more understated
[36:27] and reserved designs, with subdued colours more suitable as
[36:31] office attire. Companies and government offices
[36:35] began allowing employees to wear Aloha attire on Friday, the last
[36:39] work day of the week. This was specifically in Hawaii,
[36:43] and Aloha Friday officially began in 1966, when the
[36:47] president of Bank of Hawaii started wearing Aloha shirts to
[36:50] work on Fridays. That's when it officially began.
[36:53] And soon this trend spread across the world, across the
[36:57] corporate world, and casual Fridays became a very
[37:00] commonplace thing. OK, just out of curiosity, is it
[37:05] like a thing in India as well? Casual Fridays.
[37:08] I believe so, yeah. And you'll find this in more
[37:12] traditional office spaces, like a bank and government offices.
[37:15] And again, it's not really casual attire.
[37:19] Like you can't walk in with Clippers and shorts and singlet.
[37:23] This is a complete til for me. This is a complete til for me.
[37:26] But then yeah, I also like Hawaiian short prints because
[37:28] I've always had this partiality towards Magnum, Pi.
[37:33] And for those who know, nuns don't work on Sunday, if you
[37:38] know, you know, yes. So, and I think that's all the
[37:44] time we have for today's episode, we've had a heady mix
[37:47] of questions and just straight up trivia.
[37:51] Before we end today's episode, we have to ask Aditya what his
[37:57] question is going to be for us for next week.
[38:02] My question is going to be very simple, Vineet.
[38:04] And the question I'm going to pose is, if Die Hard was made in
[38:08] India, what would be a very significant dialogue that would
[38:13] have to be changed to fit the Indian context?
[38:16] And how would that be changed? I have many, many queries on
[38:22] this question, but we shall keep that for the next week, for next
[38:26] week. So let me now answer the
[38:29] question that I had asked at the beginning of the episode, the
[38:31] audience question. Hopefully some of you may have
[38:33] guessed the answer, but I'll repeat the question now.
[38:36] Geosmin is an organic compound that gives beetroots its taste.
[38:40] It's also accountable for something people would
[38:42] experience more frequently during the first few weeks of
[38:45] the monsoon. What else, apart from the taste
[38:48] for beetroots? Does geosmin account for Aditya?
[38:52] Do you have a guess? Only because you said the first
[38:55] few days of monsoon. I'm guessing petricor, the smell
[39:01] of the first race. Yes, yes, Geosmin literally
[39:05] means earthy smell, as in, if you may have heard Osman.
[39:09] So Geo Osman is earthy smell, so it is responsible for the smell
[39:14] of petricor. Petricor is the smell of earth
[39:17] just after the first fresh rains.
[39:20] So yes, and for those who did not know, there is actually a
[39:24] perfume in Uttar called Mitti Ki Hushboo which is available I
[39:29] believe from Aditya's home state.
[39:31] It's exclusively made their handmade which bottles up the
[39:35] smell. So if you're interested you can
[39:37] search for it online and might be able to get a bottle so
[39:40] petric or is the first smell you get after the rains.
[39:43] It's a beautiful smell and yes, so that is what geosmin is
[39:48] responsible for. So before we wind up again, what
[39:51] is your pop culture recommendation for this week,
[39:53] Aditya? I believe we did mention Die
[39:56] Hard a fair bit. Die Hard also reminds me of the
[40:00] fact that a lovely actor that we recently lost Matthew Perry and
[40:05] there are some of his famous films.
[40:06] The one with Bruce Willis is not bad.
[40:08] The whole 9 yards. The whole 10 yards.
[40:10] Both of these good films, both of them have been adapted by the
[40:12] way, I believe, unofficially into.
[40:14] Bollywood films as well. I believe Awara Pagal, Deewana
[40:17] or Diwan is like Akshay Kumar. I don't remember what it is, but
[40:21] yes, yeah, you're right. Decent films, Fun 3 to tango.
[40:27] Also fun, but the one that I would recommend, and it isn't
[40:32] one where Matthew Perry is playing an outright funny guy or
[40:36] funny character, is The Ron Clark Story, which is a made for
[40:39] TV film. But it's actually a pretty good
[40:41] film. I would objectively say it is
[40:43] worth a watch, regardless of whether you're a Matthew Perry
[40:45] fan or not. But yeah, a whole 9 yards.
[40:48] Whole 10 yards. If you just want to remember
[40:50] Matthew Perry and his legacy to entertainment, you can watch
[40:53] those films as well. Apart from watching friends,
[40:56] that's my recommendation. My recommendation for this week
[41:00] is a little obscure. You may find it a little
[41:02] difficult, but if you search, you may get it.
[41:04] So I don't know how many of you have read or are aware of a
[41:08] series of detective novels by an author called PD James.
[41:11] The detective being Adam Dalglish.
[41:15] So there is a recent TV series. It's only two seasons young.
[41:20] Basically it's only two seasons young.
[41:22] The next season expected sometime next year.
[41:24] It called Dalglish. The series is called Dalglish.
[41:28] It's two seasons, 6 episodes each, based off the novels of PD
[41:32] James. But that's not why.
[41:34] Because there are 100 such adaptations and TV detectives
[41:38] that you can see everywhere. Why you should watch This is for
[41:41] the actor Bertie Carvel, the guy who portrays Adam Dalglish.
[41:47] It is a master class performance.
[41:50] He portrays the character and the moment you watch the show,
[41:55] the character stands apart from any other and every other TV
[41:58] detective you've seen. And it's just through pure
[42:02] acting. It's just a brilliant, a
[42:04] brilliant performance. Bertie, Carvel, Dalglish.
[42:08] It might be difficult for you to get, but by hook or crook, watch
[42:11] it. It's definitely worth watching.
[42:13] It's very binge worthy, but two seasons of six episodes each
[42:17] Love that, especially because you said it's different from
[42:21] every other portrayal of a detective, which is one of the
[42:24] most cliched characters in fiction, so.
[42:27] Yes, The thing is, the reason I like the the Dalglish novels is
[42:32] because the detective here, Adam Dalklish, is a poet.
[42:40] And his affect and the way he approaches things is very calm,
[42:44] very measured and get slightly enigmatic.
[42:47] And Bertie Cavill just embodies that character, heart and soul.
[42:53] I just loved it from the 1st 5 minutes he's on screen.
[42:56] I was hooked. So that's all for this episode.
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