# Episode 107 - Donald, Balbir & Clifton

An episode of [Are You Quizzing Me?](https://invisiblenetwork.ai/podcast/1663104901), 23 Jun 2025, 59 min.

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Do you know why Donald Lau, the CFO of a food company, claim to be the most read writer in America? Do you know which unexpected publishing house first published the award-winning book "Mrs Balbir Singh’s Indian Cookery " by Balwant Kaur? Do you know what type of books are named after creator and publisher Clifton Hillegass? Tune in to find out!! You can reach us at Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/areyouquizzingme/ Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/areyouquizzingme Email: areyouquizzingme@gmail.com Subreddit: https://www.reddit.com/r/areyouquizzingme Youtube: https://www.youtube.com/@areyouquizzingme/podcasts

## Transcript

[0:00] This is episode 107 of Are You Quizzing Me?
[0:04] Your favorite quizzing and trivia podcast show, And today's
[0:08] audience question is as follows. Zweite's book is the sequel to
[0:13] Which best selling book? Let me repeat the question.
[0:17] Zweite's book is the sequel to Which best selling book?
[0:22] The answer to this will be revealed at the end of today's
[0:24] episode. Now let's roll the music.
[0:28] Welcome to Are you quizzing me? I am Vineet Nair with my Co host
[0:32] Aditya Kashyap. This is a quizzing trivia
[0:35] podcast show. Join us as we dive deep into
[0:38] history, science, pop culture and so much more.
[0:42] Let's get quizzing and welcome back people.
[0:47] Aditya and I are back for another round of quizzing.
[0:49] And without further ado, let's start off Aditya.
[0:52] Why don't you hit me with one of your questions?
[0:54] All right, I have a good bunch of trivia lined up for you
[0:58] today, Things I have found from various sources.
[1:02] Some of the sources I've forgotten, the ones I remember I
[1:04] will give due credit to. But let's start off with my
[1:07] favorite question of the lot. Have you heard of this gentleman
[1:12] Donald Lau? No.
[1:15] All right, not surprised. But what you will be surprised
[1:18] to hear is the fact that Donald Lau claims that he is the most
[1:22] widely read author in the United States of America.
[1:27] OK, he has been writing, or he had been writing for almost 3
[1:32] decades, after which he decided to step down or retire from
[1:35] writing because he felt a certain writer's block.
[1:39] OK. Do you know what is Donald Lau's
[1:42] most famous Seminole piece of writing?
[1:45] I have absolutely no idea. He's supposed to be America's
[1:50] most read author. Is self-proclaimed, but he has
[1:54] some sort of backing to that claim.
[1:56] OK, I'm guessing this is a kind of sideways question.
[1:59] I'm guessing it's not a book, so it must be something like a
[2:02] newspaper. Was he the author of a comic
[2:04] strip? OK, very, very well caught on to
[2:07] the fact that yes, it is not a book that he is famous for.
[2:10] OK, but it's not a comic strip either.
[2:13] Though you are. On the right path in terms of
[2:15] it's something very short form. It's a very short form.
[2:22] I was thinking of a cartoonist for the New York Times or
[2:24] something like that, or The New Yorker.
[2:26] He can't call himself the most read person in America for that
[2:29] particular reason. And considering that this is
[2:33] America, I would consider the Bible would be probably the most
[2:36] read book. But then considering what some
[2:40] of the politicians in America say, I don't.
[2:42] I don't believe many of them have read the Bible.
[2:45] Also, I would imagine that would probably be a very controversial
[2:48] statement to claim authorship over the Bible.
[2:52] So no, he has nothing to do with the Bible or nothing religious
[2:56] per SE. I would say it is cultural
[2:58] though. OK, there's some cultural aspect
[3:00] to his writing. Not religious but cultural for
[3:03] sure. Cultural aspect.
[3:06] To. His writing.
[3:09] You said the name was Don Lau, right?
[3:11] Don Lau. Lau Lau.
[3:14] So I'm guessing he's Asian. Yes, I've not found any specific
[3:19] source which confirms it, but I am going on a limp here and
[3:22] saying he's probably Chinese. Yeah, with the last name like
[3:26] Lao or maybe a family name like Lao, it could possible possibly
[3:31] Chinese person. Almost definitely Chinese, and
[3:34] something to do with something culturally Chinese as well.
[3:38] Something culturally Chinese. I don't know.
[3:44] Crazy Rich Asians keeps coming to mind and like, my mind keeps
[3:46] going to mahjong tiles. But I'm guessing it's not that.
[3:50] No. OK, let me give you one more
[3:52] hint. OK.
[3:53] So Donald, his writing is almost as if more of a side gig, a
[3:58] hobby that he pursues or something he's good at, but not
[4:02] necessarily his main occupation because that would be a chief
[4:06] financial officer at a food company.
[4:09] He's a chief financial. Oh, OK.
[4:14] I'm either way off or something's really hit me over
[4:17] the head. Are you talking about Chinese
[4:19] fortune cookies? Yes, it is.
[4:22] Chinese fortune cookies are. You kidding me?
[4:24] One guy writes all of that. So Wanton Food Company is the
[4:29] largest manufacturer of fortune cookies in the world and Donald
[4:33] Lau is the chief financial officer at the Wanton Food
[4:36] Company. So he retired from his writing
[4:40] gig in 2016, and since then, another of the employees of the
[4:44] company has taken over the job. Wow.
[4:46] But three decades ago, when he first started doing it, he was
[4:49] perhaps the best at writing in English or best at, you know,
[4:53] whatever expressing his thoughts.
[4:54] So they tasked him with coming up with new fortunes for the
[4:57] fortune cookies. So for almost 3 decades, he was
[4:59] the one writing all the fortune that he found in the biggest
[5:03] fortune cookie manufacturers. Cookies.
[5:05] Wow. Nice.
[5:06] And that's why he was the most read writer in all of the United
[5:09] States. No, that's very nice.
[5:12] That's a very nice question. Very output out of left field.
[5:15] I like it. I don't know how much credence
[5:18] you want to give to New York Post, but New York Post claimed
[5:20] that he decided to step down in 2016 because he was facing
[5:24] writer's block. He was like, I'm not able to
[5:27] come up with new fortunes as I used to be able to.
[5:30] This is basically them admitting that fortune cookies are
[5:32] bullshit if the person says I have writer's block, these are
[5:37] not fortunes anymore. But hey, listen, maybe it's not
[5:41] a good, good conduit anymore to the universe speaking to us.
[5:46] Maybe. Maybe that's the reason, though,
[5:48] interestingly enough, because fortune cookies have been around
[5:50] for a while. I want to tell you one, and I'm
[5:53] sure there are a lot of interesting ones that have been
[5:55] found over the years. I want to share one with you.
[5:57] OK. There was a fortune cookie which
[6:00] was introduced as a piece of evidence and it read SF Judge
[6:04] who rules for LA, not very smart cookie.
[6:08] And this was in some sort of a dispute over company in Los
[6:13] Angeles claiming that they came up with a fortune cookie.
[6:15] And one company in San Francisco claiming that they came up with
[6:18] a fortune cookie. And it went to the San
[6:20] Francisco's Court of Historical Review.
[6:23] And there the fortune cookie was introduced, a piece of evidence
[6:26] that said SF judge who rules for LA, not very smart cookie.
[6:32] That's a very nice one. I don't have any particular
[6:35] segue to my next question, but I found this interesting enough
[6:40] because, well, you'll figure out why I found it quite
[6:44] interesting. I'm going to be talking about a
[6:47] particular fashion designer, an American fashion designer who
[6:51] also has a sideline as a film maker.
[6:54] OK. This particular person was a
[6:56] creative director at Gucci and Yves Laurent until 2004 when he
[7:04] left to launch his own eponymous label, and he's directed 2
[7:09] movies. 1 was a 2009 movie called A Single Man and the
[7:16] second was a 2016 neo noir psychological thriller which
[7:22] received rave reviews with an Oscar nomination. 9 BAFTA
[7:28] nominations, Golden Globe nominations for Best Director
[7:31] and Best Screenplay, plus a Golden Globe nomination for a
[7:34] Best Supporting Actor. So I want you to identify the
[7:38] fashion designer and I also want you to identify the movie.
[7:42] OK, you said 2016 was the very lauded film, right?
[7:47] Yes, 2016 was the lauded film. Yes.
[7:50] Neo Noir? What is the genre again?
[7:53] Neo noir psychological thriller. New newer psychological
[7:57] thrillers somehow. And 2016.
[7:59] I'm I'm pretty sure it's around 2016 if not exactly 2016.
[8:04] Is the movie by any chance Nightcrawler?
[8:06] I know why your mind went to Nightcrawler, but it's not
[8:10] Nightcrawler. And you said best supporting
[8:12] actor? Yes, there were awards.
[8:14] There was a nomination for the Best Supporting Actor at the
[8:16] 89th Academy Awards, 9 BAFTA nominations and Golden Globe
[8:20] nominations for Best Director, Best Screenplay because the
[8:25] director, this fashion designer man, also wrote the screenplay.
[8:28] Oh, OK. He wrote the screenplay he
[8:30] directed and he produced it. Interesting.
[8:33] I was shocked to find out that this was the person who was
[8:38] behind all of this. It was very surprising to me.
[8:41] OK, but it's not Nightcrawler, right?
[8:44] It's not Nightcrawler though you will be.
[8:48] How do I put this? A little frustrated, or maybe,
[8:52] oh, I was so close when you're the name of the movie because
[8:56] you said Nightcrawler. OK, so something similar to the
[9:00] vibe of Nightcrawler or or does it star Jake Gyllenhaal by any
[9:04] chance? Yes, it does start Jake
[9:07] Gyllenhaal. Yes.
[9:08] Oh my God, that's not fair at all.
[9:10] OK, yeah, Jake Gyllenhaal film from 2016.
[9:15] OK, that's not something that's gonna.
[9:17] Nightcrawler was 2014, by the way.
[9:20] OK, I missed it by two years. Let's try the fashion designer
[9:25] approach you said worked for Gucci and for Eve Saint-laurent,
[9:29] right? Yes, he said.
[9:32] Laurent. Eve, saint-laurent.
[9:33] Eve. Saint-laurent, yes.
[9:35] And then has an eponymous brand? Since when when was the
[9:38] eponymous brand launched? He launched his brand in 2004.
[9:44] Oh. OK, so he's been around for a
[9:46] while. Yes, he has.
[9:49] I guarantee you know his name. OK, this is very surprising.
[9:53] A film director was also fashion designer and I can't immediately
[9:56] think of 1. Oh, this is exactly why I was
[9:58] shocked. I did not know that this man had
[10:02] done it. I'll also give you, I mean it's
[10:05] not a clue how you hardly remember it, but he also had an
[10:07] appearance in Zoolander. I have criminally, I must say,
[10:14] skipped Zoolander. I have not watched Zoolander.
[10:16] Oh my God, you've not seen Blue Steel?
[10:19] Oh God. Exactly, and I've seen all the
[10:22] memes and stuff but I've not watched the movie.
[10:24] I'll give you one more clue, maybe this might help.
[10:27] In 2022, the brand was purchased by Estee Lauder for $2.8
[10:32] billion. Oh wow.
[10:34] OK. Forbes estimated that this
[10:36] person, the designer we are talking about, earned about $1.1
[10:41] billion from the deal, and in 2023 he stepped down as the
[10:47] brand's creative director and is no longer associated with the
[10:50] brand, even though it's still named after him.
[10:52] OK, no, I need something, probably more to do his film
[10:55] work because the fashion work is not my Forte.
[11:00] OK, so I let's combine the two. This is probably the giveaway
[11:04] clue. This person designed Daniel
[11:07] Craig's suits for the final four Bond films, Quantum of Solace,
[11:11] Skyfall, Spectre and No Time Today.
[11:13] Oh, OK. This director, this person, this
[11:16] fashion designer is also mentioned in Justin Timberlake
[11:20] song Suit and Tie, which was collaboration with Jay-Z.
[11:24] Do you see the common thread here that I'm going through?
[11:27] Common thread, like a little word play over there.
[11:31] Thank you. I don't know.
[11:32] I would have imagined the Bond suits.
[11:35] I don't know why Armani comes to mind.
[11:37] Yes, you're on the right track because you're thinking suits.
[11:40] I'm giving it to you. The common thread here is suits.
[11:43] The Justin Timberlake song was suit and tie.
[11:45] He designed 4 suits for James Bond for Daniel Craig.
[11:48] So this is somebody who even though has menswear, beauty,
[11:53] eyewear accessories, probably known mostly for menswear.
[11:59] Menswear. Suits.
[12:01] He's dressed. Daniel Craig, Tom Hanks, Johnny
[12:05] Depp, Ryan Gosling, Will Smith, Hugh Jackman, Jon Hamm, Henry
[12:09] Cavill. They've all worn his suits.
[12:12] So much so it was, at least for some time.
[12:13] It was a byword, you know. OK.
[12:15] So and so suits. OK, no, I I'm again not my
[12:21] strength. OK, last clue for the person
[12:24] Anyway, Think of a fashion designer who also has a last
[12:28] name as a car brand. Oh, Tom Ford.
[12:32] Very good. It is Tom Ford.
[12:35] What Tom Ford has directed movies?
[12:38] Yes, 2 movies. OK The first one was called
[12:42] Single Man OK and that was in 2009.
[12:47] It starred the Colin Firth as an LA based college professor who
[12:51] is gay. OK.
[12:53] And the second movie is the one I'm asking about.
[12:56] Something released in 2016. Neo noir psychological thriller.
[13:01] Oscar, Golden Globe, BAFTA nominated movie starring I'll
[13:05] Give You the Star List, starring Jake Ellenhall, Amy Adams,
[13:11] Michael Shannon, Aaron Taylor Johnson, Isla Fisher.
[13:15] What? Armie Hammer, Laura Linney,
[13:19] Michael Sheen. Oh.
[13:21] What? This sounds like a pretty great
[13:23] cast. It is a pretty great cast.
[13:26] Also, you said Isla Fisher as well?
[13:28] Yes, alongside Amy Adams. Amy Adams and Isla Fisher are
[13:31] the. They look very much alike.
[13:32] Yes, I am aware. Doppelgangers.
[13:35] OK. This is a movie with a there's a
[13:39] book inside the movie, so there are characters being played in
[13:43] the movie who are also in the book.
[13:45] It's a little meta. It's a little nourish.
[13:48] Very well received. And my clue to you would be
[13:52] think of the movie that you guessed first.
[13:55] My guest, Nightcrawler. Ha, this is very, very closely
[14:01] named. Evening.
[14:03] Sunset, Day, afternoon. Oh, is it?
[14:10] What did nocturnal animals did that have?
[14:13] Yes, it is nocturnal animals. Oh, I've not seen it.
[14:16] OK interesting. Wow, what a great cast.
[14:18] I didn't remember that that was the cast for the film.
[14:20] Yes. Wow.
[14:23] And it's a Tom Ford movie. I could not believe it when I
[14:27] found out. That's in.
[14:28] See, that should not be trivia like.
[14:30] There should be more common knowledge.
[14:33] It's a good movie. I remember it being a good
[14:35] movie. I remember watching, seeing the
[14:37] name Tom Ford, and I was like, Tom Ford, who's expecting this
[14:41] guy who's known for suits to be directing such a great movie,
[14:46] Right. And he got nominated for best
[14:48] screenplay and best director. Interesting.
[14:52] OK, and the list of nominations. There's an entire Wikipedia page
[14:56] for the list of accolades received by this movie.
[15:00] I'll just give you a small list of Tom Ford, designer
[15:03] extraordinaire, got nominations for Best Adapted Screenplay from
[15:07] the Writers Guild of America Awards.
[15:10] The Venice Film Festival nominated him for the Grand Jury
[15:15] Prize, which he won, and the Golden Line, which he did not
[15:19] end up winning. The Critics Choice Awards for
[15:22] Best Adapted Screenplay, the BAFTA Awards for Best of Adapted
[15:25] Screenplay and Best Direction, and the rest of the supporting
[15:30] actor nominations all went to Michael Shannon.
[15:33] I should watch this film. It's not everybody's cup of tea.
[15:35] It's about a man who takes vengeance on his ex-wife through
[15:40] a novel. It's a weird kind of movie, but
[15:44] well worth watching. That was one of those questions
[15:47] that I had in my pocket. Now there's another question
[15:50] which I have been carrying in my pocket, which I wanted to ask
[15:52] you, which may not be fair to all our listeners because this
[15:56] is a very niche question. There's only one possible
[16:00] answer. There's not much guessing
[16:02] involved. So I'll just ask the question as
[16:04] a sub question to this considering, you know,
[16:06] surprising movie facts kind of thing.
[16:08] Let's do it. This iconic sports movie from
[16:12] the 2000s was based on a real victory and revolves around a
[16:17] hockey coach. OK.
[16:19] The coach faces tragic disappointment during his chance
[16:23] at the Olympics. He is then called to coach a
[16:26] national hockey team. The movie shows the coach
[16:29] practicing plays at the table in the waiting room outside the
[16:33] sports committee conference room.
[16:34] The subsequent meeting and in later interactions, it becomes
[16:37] obvious that the government committee does not have faith in
[16:40] his team. The team features young,
[16:43] promising players who come all with their own rivalries and
[16:46] egos. When the players are asked who
[16:49] they play for, they name their respective teams and the coach
[16:52] is dismissive of all this until one player says that they play
[16:56] for the national team. The coach is almost brutal in
[17:00] his approach, focusing on conditioning and puts the team
[17:03] through their paces. His coaching is predicated on
[17:06] passing often and on their way to victory, they first play
[17:10] their arch rivals and they lose only to win the next time they
[17:14] face each other. Prior to this pivotal match, the
[17:18] coach gives them an inspirational speech in the
[17:20] dressing room which is shown in the movie with minimal
[17:23] background score playing. Which movie am I talking about?
[17:27] OK, so I would imagine Chak de India would be the wrong answer
[17:30] for this. Why do you think Chak De India
[17:32] is the wrong answer for this? Because then we would edit this
[17:35] part out. There would be no point having
[17:36] this in the podcast. No, no, no, no, no, no.
[17:39] That's that's no, no, no more straightforward answer.
[17:43] It's not the are you accusing me style.
[17:44] OK, so so I'm gonna. No, no, no, no it's not.
[17:47] It's not OK. I need a proper answer from you
[17:50] as to why this is not check the India.
[17:54] Because as I learned from very smart man once, do not try to
[17:57] play the game, play the player. And I know Vineet would not ask
[18:02] me a question which is so straightforward.
[18:04] So it's not check the India right off the hockey stick.
[18:07] I can declare that. But you said hockey film only,
[18:11] right? Yes, it's a hockey film.
[18:13] It's around a hockey coach. Wow, the rest of the tropes are
[18:18] pretty straightforward for a sports film.
[18:20] Losing to your rivals and then winning against them and
[18:23] inspirational speech. The but the doing it on a table
[18:27] part was very check the India. I'm surprised that has also been
[18:31] done before. Wait is this before or after
[18:33] check the India? I still haven't told you it's
[18:35] not check the India. Alright, fine.
[18:37] You're the one who's saying it's not Check the India fine.
[18:39] Let's get out of the way. Unless you give me a reason.
[18:41] Is it check the India vireeth of source?
[18:45] No, it is not. Oh, who would have seen that
[18:51] coming? And there's something I said
[18:53] very specifically in the question, which would have told
[18:55] you immediately, it's not check the India.
[18:57] Oh, I didn't catch anything that was not checked the India.
[19:00] It sounded very check the India to me was inspired by some real
[19:04] life incident, which also is I think Chuck the India's thing.
[19:07] Chuck the India was inspired by the 2002 women's team winning at
[19:10] the Commonwealth Games. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
[19:12] But no, I have no idea. OK, I did not expect you to get
[19:16] the movie. I was just hoping I could get
[19:18] you to say Chuck the India, which I did.
[19:19] So yeah, for me, the answer to this question is a movie.
[19:24] It's a fantastic movie, which is also, again, my recommendation
[19:28] for this week as well, is a movie called Miracle.
[19:32] It was released in 2004. It's an American sports film and
[19:35] it's about the US men's ice hockey team.
[19:39] I know this. I know of this miracle.
[19:41] Of course I know about this. All right?
[19:43] Miracle on Ice. Yeah.
[19:44] Yes, it's about the Miracle on Ice.
[19:46] It's about the 1980 Winter Olympics where America beat the
[19:50] Soviet Union after 20 something odd years.
[19:54] And if you watch that movie, you come to know immediately.
[20:00] They took the skeleton of that and placed it in India, added
[20:03] some masala, changed the Olympics to the World Cup.
[20:07] So that's where my question differ because I mentioned that
[20:10] the coach faces tragic disappointment during his chance
[20:13] at the Olympics. Oh, at the Olympics, Right,
[20:16] right, right. That was in the World Cup only,
[20:17] right? Right.
[20:18] Yes. So in the original movie, Kurt
[20:20] Russell's character is chosen for the 1960 ice hockey team,
[20:24] but is pulled out of the team before he could go to the
[20:27] Olympics. Like the coach cuts him before
[20:29] he goes to the Olympics and then he gets a chance to coach
[20:33] another team again. That's a fantastic movie.
[20:36] I would say a lot more tense and a lot more tension building.
[20:40] Lot less emotional manipulation than Chuck the India.
[20:45] Frankly, I find it very difficult for anybody who tells
[20:48] me that Chuck the India was not inspired by this.
[20:51] But surprisingly I couldn't find anything on the Wikipedia
[20:55] article for Chuck the India or anywhere else that said that is
[20:57] was inspired by this. But you watch the movie and the
[20:59] parallels are there. It's not just this movie.
[21:03] There's a sequence in Miracle where the coach motivates his
[21:07] team by pissing off one of the players.
[21:10] Interesting. You can see almost that exact
[21:14] scene in the Vijay starrer movie Biggil.
[21:17] OK. Which is a Tamil movie.
[21:19] To be fair, I mean some of these are standard tropes in sports
[21:22] films. Yes, but this is almost exactly
[21:25] like even the sequence where Kurt Russell comes around the
[21:29] corner and then speaks out the corner of his mouth to his
[21:31] assistant coach. That should get him going.
[21:34] Almost exactly that same sequence in the almost exactly
[21:37] that camera, same the camera movement, everything is very,
[21:40] very similar. And I was little unhappy that
[21:44] Chakra India, which was regarded as one of the most original,
[21:48] like we were calling it original content that came out of India,
[21:51] turns out not so original. You know, I have thought about
[21:53] this. I don't know if I hate a movie
[21:55] just because it is inspired by films.
[21:57] Of course, at the end of the day, you want to give due credit
[21:59] to people you're inspired by. Exactly.
[22:01] That would be ideal. But if you do give credit to
[22:03] them and you do a very good adaptation, I'm all for it.
[22:06] A good adaptation is is amazing. I think a good adaptation, if
[22:09] done well, is as good an art piece as the original.
[22:14] Exactly. The thing is, if you watch Ram
[22:16] Gopal, Varma Sarkar. Sarkar is a very good example.
[22:19] He acknowledges in the beginning itself that this is from The
[22:22] Godfather. Same thing for Amal Neerajs
[22:24] Bheshma Parvam starring Mammootty which released a
[22:26] couple of years ago, which is like The Godfather meets The
[22:30] Mahabharat set in 1980s Kerala. OK.
[22:34] But again, that also he acknowledges quite early on that
[22:38] this is from the Godfather. I don't know if they acknowledge
[22:41] it but Rajdeeti was very much godfather meets Mahabharat.
[22:44] Yes. Which I thought was a decent
[22:46] reputation. Yeah, I will, but still claim
[22:48] that Peshma Parvan did it much better.
[22:51] OK, I'm going to check it out. Yeah, it's a great movie.
[22:54] So that's my question. And I got Aditya.
[22:57] So say Chuck the India. Yeah.
[23:00] You did, You did. OK, I have a perfect segue for
[23:03] this because we were talking about sports.
[23:05] I will ask you about a certain sports person.
[23:10] Who? My weakness?
[23:11] I hardly know any sports people. This one also perhaps not the
[23:16] most well known sportsperson in the world, criminally if I may
[23:21] say so, should be better known. OK, and here's why I am
[23:25] referring to Mary UPS. Again, I'm not sure if that's
[23:29] the right pronunciation. I'll spell it out for you.
[23:30] Mary. Mary UPS.
[23:32] EARPS here. Earps UPS.
[23:35] Yes, I'm guessing that's UPS because Wyatt UP.
[23:38] Right. Mary UPS is an English
[23:40] professional footballer OK, who plays as a goalkeeper for
[23:44] Premier League club Paris Saint Germain.
[23:47] She served as the vice captain for England in the 2023 FIFA
[23:50] Women's World Cup. Has received the Golden Glove
[23:53] award for best goalkeeper of the tournament.
[23:55] Wow was announced the winner of 2023 BBC Sports Personality of
[23:59] the Year awards. So Sports Personality not just
[24:01] specific to women, Sports Personality.
[24:03] So very well lauded. Some other tangential, you could
[24:07] say achievement is that the first female professional
[24:10] football player honored with a wax figure at Madame Tussauds in
[24:13] London. Oh, quite a few laurels that she
[24:17] can boast of. Recently, she also announced her
[24:21] retirement from international football.
[24:25] OK. I want you to tell me what is
[24:28] the name that was given to the BBC Sports documentary made
[24:33] about Mary Earps. The name of this, by the way, is
[24:37] something to do with her actual name, but a moniker attached to
[24:41] it, a nickname attached to it. It's a nickname that she goes
[24:44] by. Oh.
[24:45] I don't know anything about her that makes it much harder, yeah.
[24:49] But I would not ask you a question that would be so out of
[24:52] the left field haha. Let me just indulge my own self
[24:57] over here when I say that the name of this documentary
[25:00] appealed to the pun lover in me. Oh God, and should appeal to a
[25:04] history. Lover in you.
[25:06] History lover in me. Yeah.
[25:08] First thing that comes to mind, Mary Herbs is Wyatt Earp.
[25:11] Wyatt Earp, as you know, was the famous American lawman and
[25:14] gunslinger. Nothing on that line.
[25:17] OK, So it's nothing to do with the gunfighter, the OK Corral?
[25:20] No, think more 16th century history.
[25:26] Mary Queen of Scots. OK, Very, very good.
[25:29] Mary Queen of Scots. Bloody Mary.
[25:32] No, no, Mary Queen of Scots is the inspiration behind the
[25:36] nickname for Mary Herbs. What do you think is the
[25:39] nickname that Mary Herbs has that is also the name of the BBC
[25:41] documentary? OK Mary, Queen of Scots is was
[25:44] the inspiration for the term Bloody Mary.
[25:47] Oh, don't go to the Bloody Mary side of things at all, OK?
[25:51] Bloody Mary has a few histories attached to it.
[25:54] That is a trivia for another day.
[25:55] Yes, yes, but she was literally known as Bloody Mary because of
[25:58] the number of people who were persecuted and whatnot.
[26:00] I'm not saying that she was the Bloody Mary of the urban legend
[26:03] Bloody Mary, but. I was talking about the
[26:04] cocktail, by the way. Oh, OK, OK, OK.
[26:07] Coming back to this Mary Queen of Scots, literally, that phrase
[26:12] inspired the nickname for Mary UPS.
[26:15] It sounds very similar to Mary Queen of Scots, but it's not
[26:18] that, obviously. So what is it?
[26:22] May I remind you she's a goalkeeper.
[26:25] She's a goalkeeper, Mary, Queen of Scots.
[26:31] OK, let me help you. This is a very, very It's just a
[26:33] pun. Somebody is going screaming at
[26:36] the screen right now saying you're an idiot.
[26:38] You got the part that you're good at very quickly.
[26:40] You got the Mary Queen of Scots part very quickly.
[26:43] Now, just to give you a twist on that phrase, let me remind you,
[26:47] she's a footballer, she's a goalkeeper.
[26:49] What does a goalkeeper have to do?
[26:50] Vineet. They have to prevent goals, they
[26:53] have to catch the ball, they have to.
[26:55] So what's the synonym for prevent?
[26:57] They have to stop the ball. They have to, yeah.
[26:59] Yeah, yeah, yeah. OK, this is this is extremely
[27:06] silly, but it makes sense. Knowing you, is it Mary, Queen
[27:10] of stops? Mary, Queen of Stops, is the
[27:12] right. Answer.
[27:18] Oh my God, oh God, I I honestly thought when I said Bloody Mary
[27:23] that was it. I caught you for once, but I
[27:25] couldn't remember. Like I thought maybe her uniform
[27:27] was red or something like that and that's why it's Bloody Mary.
[27:29] But OK, Mary, Queen of stops, that's.
[27:34] Nice. It has to be ridiculous.
[27:36] Yes, it has to be. You forget the fact that I enjoy
[27:39] ridiculous, but Mary, Queen of stops is chef's kiss.
[27:45] Oh God, there was a novel I read a long time ago, but I think it
[27:54] was called Chapel of the Ravens. OK.
[27:56] Which was again set in the footballing world about a
[28:01] goalkeeper who gets an injury, gets blinded in one eye, and
[28:05] then he goes to play for another football team while actually
[28:08] investigating something that's going on in the team.
[28:10] And then he finds out that the player who actually blinded him
[28:14] is also now playing in the same team.
[28:16] So there's a mystery going on. It's like Ted Lasso but noir.
[28:21] OK. It's a very old novel, I think
[28:24] it was in the 90s. I don't remember the author's
[28:26] name, but I remember the novel was called Chapel of the Ravens.
[28:29] It's not a great novel. It's airport trash, which means
[28:31] you can read it through a flight, but it's fun enough.
[28:35] That was fun. I don't have a very good segue
[28:38] for this, but this is something I came across which really,
[28:41] really surprised me. I haven't been able to do too
[28:44] much research on it and I haven't been able to find
[28:46] confirm it, but I have seen it. So I'm going to trust my own
[28:50] eyes and ask you this question. OK.
[28:53] Not many people know that I am a foodie and I'm also involved in
[29:00] certain other projects with regards to food.
[29:03] And as part of that I've been collecting some cookbooks.
[29:07] So then I've been going for some older cookbooks, looking through
[29:09] cookbooks and all, and I came across somebody called Mrs.
[29:12] Balbir Singh. Have you heard of Mrs. Balbir
[29:15] Singh? No, never heard of her.
[29:17] Balvanth Kaur, better known by her married name as Mrs. Balbir
[29:21] Singh, was an Indian chef, cookery teacher and cookbook
[29:26] author. So she started cooking and
[29:29] having home making classes in New Delhi in 1955.
[29:33] What happened was she emigrated to the UK at some point and she
[29:38] used to teach cooking classes and what not, and in 1961 she
[29:43] penned a book called Mrs. Balbir Singh's Indian Cookery.
[29:49] It dealt almost exclusively with North Indian dishes.
[29:52] It was written in very simple, easy to follow language and it
[29:56] was the first such English cookbook written by an Indian
[30:01] woman. Wow, OK.
[30:03] So this is way before Madhur Jafri, who is currently much
[30:07] more famous, at least among US people.
[30:11] She was such a pioneer in teaching and writing about the
[30:13] art of cookery that chef Simon Majumdar, who's a judge on the
[30:18] Food Network, has called her the Julia Child of India.
[30:23] It was wondering where I'm going with this, right?
[30:25] I am. Yes, Now I'm going to take a
[30:27] left turn. So I've told you about the book,
[30:29] Mrs. Balbir Singh's Indian Cookery.
[30:33] If you look at the first, the original publication 1961, the
[30:37] publisher, that particular publishing house publishing
[30:41] brand is almost exclusively associated with a completely
[30:48] different genre of book. So my question to you is who
[30:53] published this Seminole book? Mrs. Bulbir Singh's Indian
[30:56] Cookery was published by which publishing house?
[30:58] Simple question. You said the original publisher.
[31:02] Have they changed? Has the publisher changed his
[31:04] them? Yeah, so I think the book book
[31:06] itself is out of print. Mrs. Bulbir Singh, her estate
[31:10] now has a website and they have their own brand of spices and
[31:14] whatnot. So I couldn't find their book on
[31:16] their website anymore. So I don't know if the book is
[31:18] still in publication because they have a lot of recipes on
[31:21] their website and whatnot. But I have, thanks to the
[31:24] Internet Archive, which archives all these scanned copies of a
[31:28] lot of books. You can find the original
[31:29] version of the book on the Internet Archive, and you can
[31:32] confirm what I'm telling you by going and looking there when you
[31:35] have time. OK.
[31:37] The original published book from 1961 was published by one
[31:41] particular publishing house, which is known almost
[31:44] exclusively for a different genre of book.
[31:50] What publishing house am I talking about?
[31:52] Is it by any chance like Britannica, like encyclopedia or
[31:56] something? No, it's not.
[31:58] It's not. OK.
[32:00] So much so I'll give you an additional clue.
[32:02] So much so that at one point that publishing house's name was
[32:09] almost used like a synonym for this type of book.
[32:14] Oh OK, instead of saying this genre of book people would say
[32:17] this publishers name book. I am a child of the 90s and I
[32:22] was a big fan of the Scholastic book fair, so I am going to
[32:26] guess Scholastic OH. No, no, no, no, no, no, no.
[32:29] Because that became synonymous with those young adult fiction
[32:33] novels at some point. OK, but not that.
[32:36] Oh, these are not young adult. These are definitely older adult
[32:39] AH. OK, I thought, much younger or
[32:41] older adult. Oh, something more risky.
[32:46] Not completely risky, but yes, their covers tend to be very
[32:50] risky. Oh, Mils and Boone, yes, what?
[32:56] They publish a cookbook. I again, I am completely
[33:00] surprised by this. So I was, I went out this rabbit
[33:03] hole of looking up old cookbooks in the Internet Archive and on
[33:06] script and I came across Mrs. Bulbir's Indian Cookery.
[33:10] It has a jacket and whatnot and on the third or fourth page
[33:13] which has the logo publishers name, it's very clearly written
[33:17] Mils and bone. OK.
[33:20] Because this is what, now 6065 years ago?
[33:23] I can't find records of it and that particular book itself is
[33:27] now out of printer. Maybe they change publishers in
[33:29] between, but the original version, it's available on the
[33:32] Internet Archive. You can go check it out.
[33:33] Mrs. Bulbir Indian Cookery. It's also available on script.
[33:36] If you have a subscription on script, you can check it out on
[33:39] script. The scanned copy, the scanned
[33:42] copy, there's not even a digital copy.
[33:43] The scanned copy of it does show Mills and Boon.
[33:46] Very interesting. So has Milsenbourne done a lot
[33:49] of these books which are outside there?
[33:50] Apparently they have done a few non romance books but I've not
[33:54] been able to get those details. Again, we are talking about
[33:56] something done 60 years ago and they published like hundreds of
[34:00] books a year. Fair enough.
[34:01] So it's a little difficult to get their catalog and as I
[34:03] mentioned, I wasn't able to find much information about it apart
[34:07] from what I saw. But I'm going with what I saw
[34:10] and I'm telling you that it was published by Milsenbourne.
[34:14] OK. All right.
[34:15] And because Mils and Boone is such a huge publisher and
[34:19] they're part of the Harlequin UK group, I highly doubt somebody
[34:24] else would have made another brand with the same name.
[34:27] They would have been sued into oblivion.
[34:28] Sued very quickly for that. Yeah.
[34:30] Makes sense. Makes sense.
[34:31] Wow. So again, just another piece of
[34:33] trivia. Mils and Boone novels, over 100
[34:37] of which are released every month.
[34:40] OK. We cover a wide range of
[34:42] possible romantic subgenres, varying in explicitness, setting
[34:46] and styles, although retaining A comforting familiarity that
[34:51] meets reader expectations. Which literally means it'll be a
[34:55] brightly coloured book with a bare chested man and a woman
[34:59] lounging on him in some way or not the other.
[35:03] I love this. This is out of the left.
[35:05] Feel like I like these questions.
[35:06] This, this Chuck, the India, Tom Ford, very interesting questions
[35:09] today, Vinita, I must say. I must say.
[35:11] Yes. Let's hopefully keep that up
[35:15] with my next question, and this has to do with the something in
[35:20] the publishing space as well. OK, hit me.
[35:24] Have you heard of a gentleman by the name of Clifton Hillegass?
[35:29] No. Clifton Hilligas was working at
[35:31] Nebraska Book Company of Lincoln, NE, when he met Jack
[35:36] Cole, the co-owner of Kohl's, a Toronto book business.
[35:41] OK. Kohl's used to publish a certain
[35:44] type of book which was very popular in Canada.
[35:46] OK. Clifton decided to bring this
[35:49] over to the United States of America and used to publish it
[35:53] under Kohl's name initially. OK.
[35:56] Eventually he decided to spin it off under his own name, and that
[36:00] became so popular, just like you said, Mills and Boone became so
[36:03] popular. In this case I would say even
[36:06] more popular because the name that he published it under at
[36:09] some point became a proprietary eponym for similar products.
[36:14] What product was this gentleman responsible for?
[36:19] So Clifton met Jack Cole. Jack Cole was publishing a type
[36:27] of book which is very popular in.
[36:29] Canada. Canada and he brought that to
[36:34] America and now it's very popular.
[36:37] So initially he published it under Kohl's name and eventually
[36:40] decided to spin it off under his own name, or rather, just start
[36:43] up his own thing. OK, his thing became so popular
[36:47] that his brand name became a proprietary eponym for similar
[36:52] products. Proprietary eponym for similar
[36:55] products, Are they? Are we still talking books?
[36:57] Yes, it is a type of book. It is a genre of book.
[37:00] You could say. By the way, for anybody who
[37:01] doesn't know a propriety eponym is my best example is Google or
[37:06] Xerox or Walkman or these things became synonymous with the type
[37:11] of product even though they were brand names to begin with.
[37:14] Now when you are to search something online, you say Google
[37:16] it. So it's similarly this
[37:19] particular type of book also became known by the brand name
[37:23] itself. Because when you first said it's
[37:26] very popular in Canada, I was thinking of Almanac.
[37:29] But I know almanacs were popular in the US even before that, in
[37:32] the 1800s. I think Benjamin Franklin wrote
[37:35] an Almanac way back when. Yeah, yeah.
[37:38] Yeah. Does it have like you
[37:39] specifically mentioned it was very popular in Canada, Does
[37:41] that have any particular significances because Canada
[37:44] particular reason files? No, no, nothing at all.
[37:46] It was just that it was something that was happening in
[37:48] Canada, and that's where Clifton first encountered it, and he
[37:52] decided to import that idea back into the United States.
[37:55] Oh, Cliff notes. Oh, very well done, very well
[37:59] done. That is a cracker of an answer.
[38:03] Oh, you just said Clifton and suddenly just hit me.
[38:05] I actually avoided saying Clifton more than once in the
[38:08] question because I thought you will get it very quickly.
[38:12] Well done, very well tracked. And I must correct you, It's not
[38:15] Cliff Notes. It's Cliff's Notes.
[38:17] OK. And it goes by Cliff's Notes
[38:19] even today. And that's a very common
[38:21] misconception. Almost.
[38:22] And I also thought it was Cliff Notes for the longest time.
[38:24] I just thought, yeah, there must be some etymology to it.
[38:27] Turns out it's not Cliff Notes. It's Cliff's Notes.
[38:29] And it came from the name of the person who first made it.
[38:33] Clifton Hille Glass or Hile Gas or whatever it is.
[38:36] His books are called Cliff's Notes.
[38:38] The original ones from Canada were named after Jack Cole
[38:41] called Cole's Notes. So he brought Cole's Notes to
[38:44] the US. Doesn't have the same ring to
[38:45] it. Yeah, and Coles notes faded away
[38:48] into oblivion, I guess. And Cliffs Notes became so
[38:51] popular that even today, when you want to say something is a
[38:55] summary or a guide or study guide.
[38:57] A pressie. You say Cliffs Notes, and that's
[38:59] become such a common name for it.
[39:02] Give me the Cliffs notes version.
[39:03] Cliffs Notes version. Yeah, give me the Cliffs Notes
[39:05] version or give me the Cliffs Notes.
[39:06] Yeah, surprisingly, like instinctively you say Cliffs
[39:09] Notes. I think I still say Cliff Notes,
[39:10] but I just recently recently came across this and I must give
[39:14] credit to one of my favorite progress stuff You Should Know
[39:17] and they did an episode on this recently.
[39:19] Oh nice. They made an effort to keep
[39:21] saying Cliff's Notes in that, so I'm going to try to do that as
[39:23] well as Cliff's Notes. I think it's called a sibilance,
[39:26] right? When you have that S sound,
[39:29] there's too much sibilance in this particular Cliff's Notes.
[39:33] You would imagine with time, as language is evolved, this would
[39:35] just become Cliff Notes and that's how it would be known
[39:38] that people will drop the S entirely.
[39:40] Cliffs Notes has been and over years it has changed ownership.
[39:44] And in 2021, Cliffs Notes was acquired by Course Hero, which
[39:48] makes sense. Course Hero is an American
[39:50] education technology website. So yeah, they use Cliffs Notes
[39:53] by the way, in just in case because it's more American in
[39:55] nature. Anybody who is not familiar with
[39:57] it at all. Cliffs Notes are used by
[39:59] students as a study guide. When they first started off in
[40:02] the US, they started off with 16 William Shakespeare titles.
[40:06] So they literally had a summary of the 16 Shakespeare works, and
[40:09] now they have hundreds and hundreds of books summarizing
[40:12] all sorts of literature and famous novels, especially the
[40:15] ones that are assigned to kids in the US education system.
[40:20] And just for our Indian brethren who don't understand why the
[40:23] scene needs to exist, it's because the American education
[40:26] system actually assigns children to read books instead of giving
[40:31] us textbooks which already have Cliff notes versions.
[40:34] And that is fair. So there they tell you to read
[40:36] the full novel, and when you are too busy to do so or are not
[40:40] inclined to do so, you buy the Pressy and then write a book
[40:43] report on that. In Indian textbooks.
[40:46] They compress this huge novel or something into a tiny thing and
[40:50] give it to you and you really, you think, oh, this is the
[40:51] story, this is it. That's Katam.
[40:53] Yeah, I don't know which version is better, but yes, that is
[40:56] pretty accurate. That's how things work, and
[40:58] especially for those of us who studied in CBSE.
[41:00] Yes, ICSE kids used to look down upon CBSE students for not even
[41:05] having to do a full Shakespeare plan.
[41:06] We would do only like a chunk of it, whereas they would have to
[41:09] study the whole thing. Yes, yeah.
[41:11] So Cliff's Notes is from the name of the founder of the
[41:15] company, Clifton Hillcas. Nice, Very nice.
[41:19] I have no segue but to say that this is an alphabet soup of a
[41:25] question. OK, go for it.
[41:27] I've made this deliberately vague because otherwise it's a
[41:29] very dead gig of away. That's right, this country X
[41:33] derives its name from Y, which was the autonym of a people whom
[41:40] we know by the name Z. Autonym is what people would
[41:44] call themselves. I'll give you an example.
[41:48] People from Kerala, we call ourselves Malayali, so that's
[41:52] our autonym for ourselves. Right, correct.
[41:55] We are the Malayali people. I already have two guesses for
[41:58] this question. I have two guesses, but I'll let
[42:00] you finish. Yes.
[42:01] So for the sake of our audience, but what a lot of for some
[42:05] reason, Western bloggers tend to call us Carolyn.
[42:08] What? Yeah.
[42:09] Yeah. You have no idea about this.
[42:10] I've never heard this. There are a lot of Western
[42:12] bloggers who say Keralan food Carolyn culture.
[42:17] OK. So autonym is what we call
[42:19] ourselves. OK, so let me finish the
[42:21] question. The country X derives its name
[42:24] from Y, which was the autonym of a people whom we know by the
[42:28] name Z OK, the most famous name of kings of these people is
[42:35] today a part of a colloquialism for travellers, Diarrhea.
[42:40] Oh OK, so both my guesses are probably wrong at this point
[42:43] then. OK, alright.
[42:44] Oh, OK. No, give me your guesses.
[42:46] You may be right, you don't know.
[42:47] But is that the end of the question?
[42:49] Yeah, that's the end of the question.
[42:50] That's the end of the question, OK.
[42:52] Initially when you said something about the word that
[42:55] they used to call themselves, I was thinking Germany,
[42:58] Deutschland, Dutch. I was thinking something along
[43:00] those lines. Oh, very good, very good guess,
[43:02] but no. Which is why the second part of
[43:04] the clue, yeah. Yeah, the diarrhea part really
[43:06] has thrown me off again that I don't think the second guess has
[43:09] anything to do with either. I was thinking Ghana because the
[43:13] Kingdom of Ghana and the home, yeah.
[43:16] But I think it's, yeah. This has nothing to do with the
[43:19] second part of the question. OK.
[43:20] Can you repeat what is the last, the last clue which has thrown
[43:22] me off completely. Can you repeat?
[43:23] That OK, let me just break this down from the complicated way
[43:26] I've written it. So there were a people Z, they
[43:30] called themselves something Y. And purportedly, let me also say
[43:34] that purportedly the country X derives its name from Y.
[43:39] OK, alright. The People Z their most famous
[43:43] king or series of kings because you know many kings have the
[43:47] same name like Charles the first, Charles second, Charles
[43:50] third. Similarly, one of their most
[43:53] famous king names or kingly names or regal names is today a
[43:57] part of a colloquialism for travellers diarrhea.
[44:03] And also another clue would be a video game with that same name.
[44:08] Oregon Trail. Oh no, that's cannibalism.
[44:13] Yeah, because I was thinking more of like the dysentery and
[44:15] all of that that that happened in the Oregon Trail.
[44:17] OK, but that's not it. But you said also a video game,
[44:20] right? Yes, also a video game then.
[44:23] Delhi Belly also doesn't work. Some sort of a video game name?
[44:28] Yes, it was a video game. It was a fairly famous video
[44:33] game at one point. That is also another word for
[44:38] travelers diarrhea. I'll tell you something about
[44:41] the video game, maybe that'll help.
[44:42] OK. This was a platform game for
[44:44] Atari 8 bit computers and the Commodore 64 released in 1984.
[44:51] Yeah, yeah, yeah. OK.
[44:52] No, that is. So it's one of those classic,
[44:54] classic ones, and a sequel to that was released in 1998 as a
[45:02] 3D first person game. No, this is not ringing any
[45:07] bells. Give me give me some clue.
[45:12] OK, what clue do I give for this?
[45:17] OK, so the origin of this term for diarrhea comes from this
[45:23] kind of purported belief that this king somehow orchestrated
[45:29] the illness as a form of revenge against those who conquered his
[45:36] empire. That's not interesting, but I'm
[45:38] not sure if that helps me as a clue some some sort of
[45:42] colonialism. Yes.
[45:44] OK. And the initial clue had
[45:47] something to do with the people and what they call themselves.
[45:51] Yes. And that's what the country is
[45:54] named after as well. Yes, there are many theories for
[45:57] the etymology. This is one of the more popular
[45:59] ones. OK, give me another etymology
[46:03] maybe then, because I'm I'm completely lost right now.
[46:06] OK, so the names of a lot of everyday items, food item that
[46:14] we have today come from this language.
[46:17] What? OK, especially.
[46:19] Two ingredients 2 Specific ingredients which are used in
[46:22] Indian cooking comes specifically from this language.
[46:25] Like nowadays you can't even think of Indian cooking without
[46:28] these two ingredients. And the Indian name for it, or
[46:31] the let's say the Hindi name for it would be derived off of this
[46:35] language. No, the English name.
[46:37] Asha, the English name is from that language.
[46:40] OK, there's something very common in Oh, OK, because I've
[46:44] I've had this conversation with people about what is culturally
[46:48] Indian and what food should even be considered culturally Indian.
[46:51] I would say something from the Americas because we consider
[46:56] potato to be very, very intrinsic to Indian food, but
[46:59] it's not technically, yes, native to India.
[47:03] So from this language that I'm assuming you're not talking
[47:06] about Spanish, but the Spanish or conquerors, is it?
[47:09] I'm just going to say, is it Mexico?
[47:12] Oh, very good. You've guessed the country.
[47:13] OK, what? Mexico is named after the name
[47:17] that the people had given themselves.
[47:19] Yes. OK, no idea.
[47:21] Alright, OK. So Mexico, which is I believe
[47:25] the correct pronunciation, is the name of the country.
[47:28] So that was derived from an autonym for these people.
[47:31] This should be fairly simple. Now, which people are we talking
[47:34] about? So these are the people who were
[47:38] in Oh my God, I'm going to embarrass myself massively now.
[47:41] Mesoamerica There are only two major empires in the Mesoamerica
[47:44] that most people have heard of. I I want to say Aztec in.
[47:51] Oh, very good. Yes, yes, OK.
[47:54] He was a guy. I don't want to be the Mayan or
[47:56] the Aztec empires. Yeah, I was too scared of saying
[47:58] Mayan. I'm pretty sure Aztec pyramids
[48:02] are in Mexico, I think. So that's that's what I got.
[48:04] Yes, very good. So this is the Aztecs.
[48:07] What did they call themselves? You just have to change one
[48:10] syllable and you're done. In the word Aztec, 1 syllable.
[48:13] In the word Aztecs? No, not in Word Mexico.
[48:15] Yeah, Mehiki. Mehika.
[48:20] Mehika, Mexico. Mexico or Mexico was the name
[48:24] that the Aztecs called themselves.
[48:27] The term Aztec is the name given by other people.
[48:31] Makes sense. Makes a lot of sense.
[48:33] OK, so in that case, who was their most famous king and to
[48:36] what diarrhea term are we talking about?
[48:39] I am pretty sure I don't know because my my history in that
[48:43] sphere is very weak. OK, so fair enough.
[48:46] The king that we're talking about is Montezuma, or the
[48:49] correct pronunciation be Moctezuma.
[48:51] Who was the revenge? Montezuma's Revenge.
[48:55] Exactly. Montezuma's Revenge.
[48:57] It's a very famous video game. I know the game, I didn't know
[49:00] it was a travelers diarrhea. Yeah, so I think Mummy tummy,
[49:05] Delhi belly, Montezuma's revenge, there's all terms for
[49:09] travelers. Diarrhea.
[49:11] OK, yeah, this is this is some classic white racism.
[49:15] I just like giving it to other cultures whose food is foreign
[49:18] to you. Delhi Belly and Montezuma's
[49:21] revenge. Anything.
[49:24] Flavourful. So for the our audience who are
[49:27] interested, the 2 words I was talking about, about the
[49:30] ingredients which have come from the Aztec language.
[49:34] The Aztec language by the way was Nahuatl, which is the
[49:38] language that they spoke. And there are a lot of words
[49:40] which were taken from that and our loan words in English today,
[49:44] some of which include tomato, which is now an intrinsic part
[49:49] of Indian cooking. Chili is an intrinsic part of
[49:52] Indian cooking. Some other loanwords which are
[49:54] also given for foods include chocolate.
[49:57] Oh yeah, makes sense. Avocado.
[50:00] Right. Others like Tamale, Taco,
[50:03] Chipotle, these are all from the Nahotl language and that was
[50:07] spoken by the Aztecs. So the country Mexico, one of
[50:10] the many theories of how it derives its name is that it
[50:12] derived from Mexico or Mexico, which was the term that the
[50:15] Aztec people called themselves and their famous king, their
[50:19] most famous line of kings there was Montezuma one, Montezuma 2,
[50:23] and Montezuma's revenge or Montezuma's revenges.
[50:27] We English pastoralize it a little bit is a term or a
[50:30] colloquialism for traveller's diarrhea.
[50:33] Basically it's Delhi belly and Central America.
[50:36] So I think that's all the time we have for our regular round of
[50:38] quizzing, right? Perfect.
[50:40] What remains now is to answer the question I had asked at the
[50:43] beginning of today's episode, which is the audience question.
[50:48] And the question was, Zweit's book is the sequel to which best
[50:52] selling book? Aditya, do you have any idea?
[50:56] Is there a normal pronunciation for this?
[50:57] Because I have no idea the way you're saying.
[50:59] No no, the way I'm pronouncing itself is a big clue.
[51:02] You should realize my clues are multi layered.
[51:04] Oh. I'm giving you audio clues apart
[51:07] from the linguistic clues. So Zweitz book is a sequel to
[51:11] which best selling book? Mine calm.
[51:14] Did mine exactly or no way? Yes.
[51:19] So the full name, I kind of cheated here a little bit
[51:21] because the full name is Hitler's Whites.
[51:23] Book. Which literally means Hitler's
[51:27] second book. OK, it's an unedited transcript
[51:31] of Adolf Hitler's thoughts on foreign policy, written in 1928.
[51:36] It was written after Minecraft, but was not published in his
[51:39] lifetime. It's speculated it was not
[51:42] published because Minecraft did not sell well at the time, and
[51:46] Hitler's publisher may have told Hitler that a second book would
[51:49] hinder sales even more. And after Hitler became
[51:53] Chancellor, he tried to distance himself from Minecraft anyway,
[51:56] so it's possible that's why he never finally published it.
[52:00] But yes, Minecraft did have a sequel and it was called Zweitz
[52:03] Book and Mankamp was the best seller.
[52:07] It sold 5.2 million copies in 11 languages within a decade of its
[52:11] release. Oh wow.
[52:13] And considering that was the 1920s and 30s, that's very
[52:16] impressive. Lovely.
[52:17] What a beautiful, wholesome note to end this podcast.
[52:24] Yeah, a sequel. Nobody asked for.
[52:27] Sequel, Nobody asked for a sequel nobody wanted.
[52:29] And we could have all done without.
[52:31] But oh, such is life, Salawi. Yeah, we have our pop culture
[52:35] recommendations to give. So I've already given 2 pop
[52:38] culture recommendations. 1 I believe is Chapel of the Ravens,
[52:43] which is a novel. It's an airport.
[52:46] It's by Paul Bishop. It was released way back in
[52:49] 1991. I read it in the heyday of the
[52:52] mid 90s and I really remember enjoying the book.
[52:56] So maybe if you can get a copy, I don't know if it's still
[52:58] available, if you can get a copy, maybe just check it out.
[53:01] The second one would be the movie Miracle, which came out in
[53:05] 2003 or 2004 starring Kurt Russell.
[53:07] And it's I believe a slightly better version and a more
[53:11] grounded version than Chakde India.
[53:13] And it's something that Chakde India was definitely based off
[53:16] on. No getting around it.
[53:18] I would also like to recommend the Indian series Khaki.
[53:23] There are two versions. There is Khaki the Bengal story
[53:26] and Khaki the Bihar story. They're both available on
[53:30] Netflix. I would say Khaki the Bihar
[53:32] story is far superior but the Bengal story is also quite
[53:35] interesting and it's quite enjoyable.
[53:37] So maybe something you can binge over the weekend so you can try
[53:40] that. Khaki Bihar story Khaki Bengal
[53:42] story Chapel of the Ravens by Paul Bishop and Miracle which is
[53:47] one of the best sports movies I've seen.
[53:49] Cool. I'm going to give a
[53:51] recommendation of three films today and the first one is The
[53:55] Fundamentals of Caring. You cannot, cannot go wrong with
[53:59] Paul Rudd. I think just just a wonderful
[54:02] actor, wholesome actor, always reliable.
[54:04] And this is a beautiful movie, wholesome.
[54:06] You end on a positive note, on a great note and it leaves you
[54:09] feeling great. So I watched the Fundamentals of
[54:11] Caring recently. That was nice.
[54:13] The other movie I would recommend is Good Grief.
[54:15] Now this might be maybe not a popular opinion, but I liked it
[54:19] because from what I read, the reviews weren't exactly
[54:22] outstanding, but I liked it. The stars Daniel Levy, by the
[54:24] way, from Schitt's Creek fame. So anybody who likes Schitt's
[54:28] Creek would perhaps recognize the lead actor from this film.
[54:31] Obviously talks about grief and grieving and the loss of a loved
[54:34] one. I think it it does a decent take
[54:37] on that. The third film, which I believe
[54:39] I have recommended in the past, but I'll recommend it again in
[54:41] any case, is the lead out. And this is a film that I
[54:45] watched in the theaters recently.
[54:46] It came out or had a very limited release during MAMI,
[54:50] which is the Mumbai Film Festival in 2023 and it stars a
[54:53] friend of mine in it. So I went to catch it now that
[54:56] it's been released widely in theatres this time around.
[54:59] It is a very good film. It's an indie film.
[55:03] Don't go expecting some masala blockbuster, but it has some
[55:06] very unique storytelling happening over there and the
[55:09] premise itself is very interesting.
[55:11] The name is Dilli Dark and it talks about an African man, man
[55:15] from Nigeria I believe, who is in Delhi and is trying to make
[55:19] it work in Delhi and all the trials and tribulations that
[55:21] come along with being a black man in India.
[55:24] That's the premise of the movie. A fun movie.
[55:26] My friend Shantanu is also in it.
[55:28] So check it out and good leave it a good review.
[55:31] Yeah, great recommendations that I have not caught any of those,
[55:35] but I don't know if our audience has noticed.
[55:37] Aditya has become very distinctly high brow these days.
[55:41] Like, his recommendations are all like very indie art house
[55:44] movies. These are not movies that you
[55:45] think of first in your mind. Oh, I want to watch a cinematic
[55:48] exploration of grief on this Saturday night.
[55:51] So maybe we should think, you know, Aditya, you should come
[55:54] down to the masses, man. This is India.
[55:56] We do masala. Here's a fourth film
[55:58] recommendation just for the masala lovers.
[56:00] This does Vince Warren OK, so you cannot accuse me of being
[56:03] highbrow with this film. It stars Vince Warren playing an
[56:07] Italian man. It also has Susan Sarandon in
[56:10] it. It has Joe Manganiolo.
[56:12] Manganiello. Manganiello.
[56:13] Manganiello. What an attractive man.
[56:15] What a very attractive man. This absolute beefcake.
[56:19] This movie is called Nonna's OK And it's a movie about these
[56:23] Italian nonna's grandmothers. Yeah.
[56:25] Italian grandmothers who come together and they become the
[56:28] chefs in a restaurant. OK.
[56:30] It's a wholesome, very easy watch on a Sunday afternoon when
[56:34] you're not in the mood for grief and explorations of loss.
[56:38] Watch not as. Yeah, very straightforward,
[56:40] simple film about grandmother's cooking.
[56:42] And it stars Vince Swan. Like it doesn't get more messy
[56:45] than Vince Swan. Oh no trashy than that.
[56:47] Yeah, about trashy or Massey than me, though to be fair to
[56:52] him, it's not a trashy film. But yeah, it's definitely very
[56:55] easy watch and I'll wholesome watch.
[56:57] So there are 4 four film recommendations for today.
[57:00] Yeah, but my dear audience, please keep in mind that I
[57:03] didn't need any prompting to give you, you know, very
[57:06] accessible, very easy, very off the people kind of
[57:10] recommendations. You know, all mine are like
[57:11] movies that you can watch at any time, kind of no art house for
[57:14] me. So guess who's your favorite
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