# Episode 086 - Word Smash, Concert Pitch & Arrow Stork ft. Hari Krishna

An episode of [Are You Quizzing Me?](https://invisiblenetwork.ai/podcast/1663104901), 10 Oct 2024, 52 min.

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Do you know which place is mentioned in Rang De Basanti, famous for a train robbery and for kebabs - SMASH - do you know which name change happened on 24th May 2011 to better reflect the cultural identity of the place in India? Do you know when was the concert pitch of Europe widely standardised to 435 Hz? Do you know what natural phenomenon did Pfeilstorch or 'arrow storks' help prove? Tune in to find out!! You can reach us at Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/areyouquizzingme/ Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/areyouquizzingme Email: areyouquizzingme@gmail.com Subreddit: https://www.reddit.com/r/areyouquizzingme Youtube: https://www.youtube.com/@areyouquizzingme/podcasts

## Transcript

[0:00] Welcome to Are you quizzing me? I am Vineet Nair with my Co host
[0:04] Aditya Kashyap. This is a quizzing trivia
[0:07] podcast show. Join us as we dive deep into
[0:10] history, science, pop culture and so much more.
[0:14] Let's get quizzing. And welcome back to episode 86
[0:20] of Are You Quizzing Me? Our regular listeners.
[0:24] You know it when the intro is in my voice, Vineet is not around.
[0:29] So it's Aditya today at the helm of the ship, reluctantly, but
[0:34] trying his level best. And joining me on this journey
[0:38] is Hari Krishna. HK, welcome back as always.
[0:42] I feel like every 10 episodes you have to make an appearance.
[0:45] And that's pretty much what's keeping our boat from thinking
[0:49] because if HK wasn't around, we would have long lost the ability
[0:53] to do regular episodes. So thank you HK for stepping in
[0:56] one more time. So I was about to say I am
[0:59] inevitable and I was thinking whether I should say like Thanos
[1:02] or the daily pollution, but seems like both might be, you
[1:06] know, to describe that. And some reason I've been
[1:10] measuring a lot of these. I think today is New York Times
[1:13] mini crossword. Also had like, you know,
[1:15] Benjamin Franklin's famous quote.
[1:18] Nothing is certain in life except death and taxes, a lot of
[1:21] certainties. Nothing is certain except we
[1:25] need periodic illness and my appearance are there.
[1:28] Yeah, yeah, Vineet. Vineet is a hard working man.
[1:31] I perhaps am not as much so I rarely fall sick.
[1:34] Vineet on the other hand juggles a bunch of other things in life.
[1:37] So we shall allow him his well deserved break once in a while
[1:41] and we will do an episode just the two of us.
[1:44] So HK, Are you ready? I don't know what he's cooking
[1:47] up in this pathology lab, you know, So I hope he's fine and
[1:51] hope he gets better soon and hope he doesn't unleash
[1:53] anything. Are you implying that Vineet has
[1:56] a Heisenberg situation happening?
[1:59] He's cooking up drugs. All I'm hoping is that Goa
[2:03] doesn't feature on the world map like 100 in 2020, so that's all
[2:09] I'm hoping for at this stage. Vineet.
[2:11] Vineet is an ethical man. If anything, he's just cooking
[2:14] up fun trivia for us. So we shall await his return for
[2:18] the next episode. But meanwhile, we have a great
[2:20] episode in store for you, dear listener.
[2:22] Without further ado, let's just get to it.
[2:25] HK. I'm going to go with the first
[2:27] question and I have a few questions that hopefully tickle
[2:31] your trivia bone. I am going to do what I've done
[2:34] in our previous episode. Also, I think that was the last
[2:36] time I did this. I'm going to do the format of
[2:38] question where I mentioned significant events that have
[2:41] happened in a specific year and we have so far stuck to 20th
[2:45] century. So I'm going to do that this
[2:46] time as well. A year in 20th century.
[2:49] I'm going to mention the events. At any point, if you have made a
[2:53] guess, stop me or I'll finish the list and then you can make
[2:56] an educated guess. So let's begin.
[3:00] American President Harry Truman announces the development of the
[3:04] hydrogen bomb. OK, it's the 1950s, Truman as
[3:09] president between 1945 to with the Boer end and then I think
[3:15] Heisenhower. I can actually work backward for
[3:16] this. So I mean, I'm going to throw
[3:18] out a number already 1952. OK, OK, I will.
[3:21] I will continue with the clues. Jonas Salk announces that he has
[3:26] successfully tested the polio vaccine.
[3:30] OK, so he had tested it. The clinical trials had not
[3:33] begun yet. OK for the name could be late
[3:37] 40s as well. Francis Crick and James Watson's
[3:40] discovery of the double Helix structure of DNA is published in
[3:44] Nature magazine. Pretty iconic moment, as it
[3:49] were. Yeah, yeah.
[3:51] Two more iconic moments, Edmund Hillary and Tenzing Norgay, are
[3:55] the 1st to reach the summit of Mount Everest.
[3:58] Isn't this 53? I, I don't even want to pretend
[4:02] like you have not hid the answer already.
[4:04] It is 1953. I don't know how you do this
[4:07] man. It's, it's insane to me.
[4:09] I would struggle so hard. Like I'm so glad I'm the one
[4:13] posing this question because I would struggle so hard.
[4:16] Honestly, we just said Edmund Hillary and I would be like a
[4:18] 40s fifties, like somewhere there a whole 20 year period and
[4:23] you narrowed it down to one year very instantly.
[4:26] I love it. The coronation of Queen
[4:28] Elizabeth 2IN Westminster Abbey happened in 1953 as well. 53.
[4:33] Just a few more interesting things that happened that year.
[4:36] Hugh Hefner published the 1st edition of Playboy magazine.
[4:40] Do you know who featured as the first centerfold?
[4:43] Marilyn Monroe. Marilyn Monroe, of course.
[4:46] Yes, Marilyn Monroe was there. And as always, people who were
[4:50] born in the same year always blows my mind.
[4:52] Tony Blair. XI.
[4:54] Jinping, Benazir Bhutto, 3 people on the political front,
[4:58] the global political front at various times, Hulk Hogan,
[5:04] Pierce Brosnan and Kim Basinger. So we had a few celebrities,
[5:11] some political leaders, all born the same.
[5:14] It's always, always Pierce Brosnan and Xi Jinping are the
[5:16] same age, just literally a month apart.
[5:20] Xi Jinping is June 15th and PS Brosnan is May 16th.
[5:23] So PS Brosnan is a month less than a month older than Xi
[5:26] Jinping. I love it.
[5:28] OK, so happening here and very well done.
[5:31] Can't be anything but impressed at that skill, so your turn go
[5:35] for your question. So since again, it's on very
[5:37] short notice, I'm going to give a shout out first to this
[5:40] another quiz link that I'm doing this one is called the Fundus
[5:42] Liga quiz link. And the entire premise of this
[5:45] quiz link is it's a little different from your typical
[5:47] online quiz link. It's a grouping.
[5:49] The format is called Word Smash. So the format is a very
[5:53] interesting format. Basically, there are two
[5:55] questions and what you will notice is that the answer of the
[5:59] first question will smash into the next question, which means
[6:01] it will have three or more letters in common with the next
[6:05] question. I'll I'll demonstrate with the
[6:08] with the sample question. Or actually, that could be the
[6:09] first question, which I think is a relatively easy one,
[6:12] especially for someone like Rd. to crack.
[6:14] And given I know Vineet especially has those moments
[6:17] where he's like, I try my best to fool.
[6:19] I'm not even pretend to write a fool Rd.
[6:21] I'm sure he's going to get it like instantly and hopefully
[6:23] that clears up the format as well and then we can go forward
[6:26] some slightly tougher questions. Pressure, pressure, pressure.
[6:29] Let's go. The first part is in Rangdi
[6:32] Basanti when DJ of course Aamir Khan was rehearsing for the
[6:35] reenactment of a historic scene to be directed by Sue Alice
[6:39] Fatim, the actress. He mentioned to a kid that he
[6:42] will rob the train while eating the famous kebabs from the
[6:45] place. He was referring to the
[6:47] delectable the place is famous for and the famous Train
[6:51] Robbery. Which place?
[6:52] So that is question number one. Question #2 is The main reason
[6:57] this change happened on 24th May 2011 was to better reflect the
[7:01] region's cultural and linguistic identity.
[7:04] It was done to conform to the languages, correct pronunciation
[7:07] and transliteration. The demands for the change had
[7:10] originally come from civil society.
[7:12] What was the olden? So so I know the first answer is
[7:16] Kakori, Kakori Train Robbery and Kakori kebabs.
[7:20] And because you said 3 letters in common, I'm guessing the last
[7:23] three letters. So Ori.
[7:24] Which gets me to Oriya. I'm assuming Orissa.
[7:27] Orissa. What is the older name?
[7:29] Because the question asks for the older name.
[7:30] So Orissa. So that's the examples Kakori
[7:33] smashes into Orissa, and you have the two answers here.
[7:37] So let me clarify, will it always be the last three letters
[7:40] or will it be any 3 letters in in No.
[7:42] No, no, it'll be the, it'll be the last three or four or five
[7:46] or six letters potentially. But yeah, but that's the and
[7:49] it'll always be the first letter.
[7:51] So it'll be like Kakorisa is the combined Kakorisa.
[7:55] I love it. Nice.
[7:56] That was a very good format. I'm looking forward to the
[7:59] tougher questions. So before we get to the tougher
[8:01] ones, I will hit you with my second question for this
[8:05] episode. HK, you are a musician.
[8:08] You are also somebody who probably listens to a lot of
[8:11] music, I'm assuming classical, western classical music as well.
[8:15] Do you know what the current standard or the current agreed
[8:20] concert pitch is? The pitch that is agreed by
[8:24] almost every concert that performs?
[8:27] What pitch is and what does it mean for the actually to begin
[8:30] with? Do you know what a concert pitch
[8:31] is? I mean, my vague understanding
[8:34] is like, again, in Indian classical music, it's slightly
[8:37] different, but I think there's something like a 440 Hertz was
[8:41] what I'm traditionally recall as being like some standard pitch,
[8:44] which is I think a four or something like that is
[8:46] considered to be 440 Hertz. I don't know that I'm thinking
[8:49] along the right lines here. Perfect.
[8:51] Yeah, that is exactly what concept pitch is.
[8:54] So concept pitch is basically the pitch reference to which a
[8:56] group of musical instruments are tuned for a performance.
[8:59] So every musical instrument has a different tuning if they need
[9:03] to, and to perform in a concert they all need to be tuned to the
[9:07] same pitch. And ISO defines the
[9:10] international standard pitch, as you said, very exactly.
[9:14] A440, which is 440 Hertz, is a frequency of the A above middle
[9:20] C. So that is exactly what he said.
[9:22] I don't know how you knew that so perfectly.
[9:25] It's insane to me. You know what people listen to
[9:27] this podcast often do under that.
[9:30] Do we prepare answers beforehand?
[9:32] And it's your fault, HK. I blame you and breathe also,
[9:37] both of you are just too good at this.
[9:38] It's just it's a bit bit. Yeah, unbelievable.
[9:42] But yes, you were right. 440 Hertz, the A above C Great.
[9:45] You got that. So actually the question is more
[9:48] interestingly, they struggled with this problem of the rising
[9:53] pitch or the rising concert pitch over the years.
[9:57] I'll tell you why this happened, because initially all the
[10:00] concerts, or rather any group performing together, would use
[10:05] the organ, the church organ, as its main tuning.
[10:09] It's the base frequencies basically.
[10:10] Typically you always need like one constant, like something
[10:13] that is like the standard and then everything else you can do
[10:15] relative to it exactly. So you always needed that one
[10:19] note to set everyone for the same standard.
[10:22] Could not have summed it up better.
[10:23] Lovely. So yes, so they used to do that
[10:25] using the church organ as a church organ basically lost its
[10:29] prominence in in orchestras and concerts.
[10:32] They started deciding on various different the notes and to
[10:36] standardize this over the years, there were multiple agreements
[10:40] that oh, it should be this or that.
[10:42] And it was in a range of 374 to 567 Hertz.
[10:45] So it was a huge range almost 200 Hertz apart.
[10:48] Over the years. What is also happening was
[10:51] orchestras were touting higher and higher as concert halls
[10:54] became larger and larger. The reason being in large room,
[10:57] lower frequency notes would travel further and higher
[11:00] frequency notes would be absorbed.
[11:02] So the high notes would sound dampened and the whole orchestra
[11:05] would sound dull. To compensate, the orchestra
[11:08] would tune higher and higher to achieve a brighter sound.
[11:11] The downside of this was that singers were ending up straining
[11:15] their voices a lot because opera singers were affected as they
[11:19] were trying to sing classical pieces that were originally
[11:22] written for a lower frequency and now because the tuning had
[11:26] gone higher, they had to sing at a much higher pitch.
[11:29] The strain on singers got the attention of the French
[11:32] government and eventually led to before 440 Hertz was agreed to,
[11:38] which is later it led to the standardized tuning at 435
[11:42] Hertz. When did this standardize?
[11:45] This is my question. So all of this leads you to just
[11:48] one question. When did this standardize?
[11:50] If you ask French and sanitization, there's typically
[11:53] only one period where a lot of sanitization happened.
[11:55] It's either 1789 with the Revolution or Napoleon.
[11:58] So I would say like, you know, it's in that period basically.
[12:01] You would be wrong. You would be wrong.
[12:04] It's in the 20th century. 20th century, yeah.
[12:09] And is it, is it a, is it a year that is well known for other
[12:12] reasons as well or is it typically just?
[12:14] Significantly so. Significantly so.
[12:17] And that's the reason I ask this question, because just this
[12:20] random coincidence or I guess I don't know, this happenstance in
[12:23] history was just too good to mess up on.
[12:28] In the 19th century, said in the 20th century. 20th century.
[12:32] OK, is it with their Olympics by any chance?
[12:35] Is it in 1900? This.
[12:38] No. Not the Olympics.
[12:39] No. OK.
[12:41] Any other hints as to the year? Like what?
[12:43] Why will the year like isn't? Is there anything in the
[12:45] question to like to clue me to the year or is it just one of
[12:47] those things that. Not necessarily.
[12:50] So I'll actually give you a little bit more of context here.
[12:53] There was an 1885 conference. So in the 19th century there was
[12:57] a conference in Vienna which established this standard in
[13:03] Italy, Austria, Hungary, Russia, Prussia, Saxony, Sweden, and
[13:07] Wurthenberg. This was later.
[13:10] This standardization was later included in another document in
[13:15] the 20th century where it became more widely adopted.
[13:20] So I'm asking you, which one did it lead to the wider adoption of
[13:24] in the 20th century? Oh my God.
[13:27] Is it by any chance the Treaty of Versales?
[13:30] Very well done it is. The Treaty of Versailles in
[13:33] 1919, which formally ended World War 1, was also the document
[13:39] that satirized concert pitch at 435 Hertz.
[13:43] Eventually changed to 4:40 as HK had already mentioned, but 435
[13:47] Hertz, the first proper standardization, basically
[13:50] forcing Germany to come on board for some reason and be like hey
[13:55] you guys better not wage anymore wars and also 435 Hertz.
[14:01] Yeah, clearly they were wrong on one count at least so.
[14:05] Yeah, on one of those counts, they were definitely wrong.
[14:08] Probably both. But so the standardization of
[14:12] concert pitch was widely adopted for the first time in the Treaty
[14:15] of Versailles in 1919, which included convention of 16th and
[14:19] 19th November 1885 regarding the establishment of a concept.
[14:22] Pitch is set to 435 Hertz. I thought this was just a very,
[14:28] very funny coincidence. I don't know why they included.
[14:31] I've actually tried searching for it and I have no idea.
[14:33] I couldn't find any reason that they would have done this in
[14:35] pretty over sight of all reasons.
[14:38] But yeah, then finally 1939 is when they they set the concert
[14:44] pitch to 440 Hertz. Maybe that's the reason Germany
[14:46] went to war, I don't know. This is my Arya.
[14:50] Doesn't sound right. Was the justification for Poland
[14:54] invasion? Probably.
[14:55] Hitler was. Hitler was just an artist at
[14:57] heart. He was clearly, truly, truly,
[15:01] yeah. Truly.
[15:01] Yeah, in many ways. In many ways.
[15:04] On that, just to clarify very, very sarcastic note.
[15:08] Yes, HK, I hand the baton to you.
[15:10] Go for it. Your next question.
[15:12] So again, another Word Smash question.
[15:14] So let's see how quickly you cracked this one.
[15:16] Which company traced its origin to 1865, when the mining
[15:21] engineer Frederick Edestam established a ground wood pulp
[15:25] mill on the banks of the Tamerkowski Rapids in the town
[15:29] of Tampier in what was then part of the Russian Empire?
[15:32] This is question one. OK, maybe question two.
[15:34] You will be able to crack faster this time.
[15:36] What is the surname? So it's the important thing.
[15:38] I would. The surname is the part that
[15:40] smashes, right? Of the person who attained
[15:43] critical acclaim directing the Koker trilogy, close Up The Wind
[15:48] Will Carry Us and The Taste of Cherry, which was awarded the
[15:50] Palmdor at the Khan Festival that year.
[15:53] Taste of Cherry was awarded in 1997.
[15:55] What is the trilogy's name? K OK ER Koker trilogy between
[16:00] 1987 and 1994. Close Up was made in 1990.
[16:06] Another famous movie of this person was The Wind Will Carry
[16:10] Us in 1999, The Taste of Cherry in 1997 not ringing any bells.
[16:17] Yeah, I think you said that I would probably crack the second
[16:20] part first, but no, this is surprising.
[16:23] Like I usually consider myself a cinephile, so not having heard
[16:29] of any of these, I would imagine these are some slightly deeper
[16:33] cuts than usual. Or maybe I'm just not informed
[16:36] about this particular director, so I'll try to attempt the first
[16:41] one. I feel like that had the ring of
[16:44] but you did see the Russian Empire, which kind a little bit
[16:47] confuses me. What was?
[16:48] Then part of the Russian Empire. I know, I know.
[16:50] So this might still fit the bill.
[16:52] This might still be the right answer.
[16:53] Is it Nokia by any chance? It is Nokia.
[16:56] So now what's the second then? The surname.
[16:59] This somebody's surname says. Kia or OK IA or N OK IA of
[17:04] course. Could be more than 3 letters
[17:06] right? And it has to be in that order
[17:08] otherwise I would have said like Kurosawa.
[17:10] But again, Kurosawa's surname doesn't sound like Kia Akira is.
[17:17] Wow, I can't even place which country this is from.
[17:20] I mean I can give you the country name as a hint of that
[17:22] help. I doubt it because I've not even
[17:24] heard of these movies, so I might have not heard of this
[17:26] director. The director is from Iran.
[17:29] He's an Iranian director, man. I just do that one Iranian
[17:33] director, the guy who has made a Farhadi for Oscar Farhadi.
[17:38] OK. So he's he's from the kind of
[17:39] the earlier batch then Oscar Farhadi is much more known.
[17:42] Farhadi is much more recent, in the 2000s.
[17:45] Then probably you don't know his.
[17:46] This is this is my cultural blind spot glaring right now
[17:51] because I have not watched enough Iranian films.
[17:54] S No, I would. I highly doubt I'd get this
[17:56] answer. Do you?
[17:57] Do you wanna either give the answer to me or give me some
[18:00] much more significant hint? His first name is Abbas if that
[18:03] helps. Like you know so.
[18:05] You know what I give up, I give up.
[18:07] Just give me the name. I have no idea.
[18:08] Abbas Kiarostami. I know they've heard of him.
[18:10] Or not. Kiarostami.
[18:12] Yeah. K KIAROST, AM I?
[18:15] So I mean, again, I've heard of they've been passing.
[18:17] I've not seen I think close up is one of his and the taste of
[18:21] Cherry is the one that won, won the palm door.
[18:23] But yeah. OK, interesting.
[18:26] I will check this out. This sounds like a good pop
[18:28] culture recommendation. A bus Kirasthami, Kirasthami or
[18:32] just say Kirasthami, right? Yeah, very cool.
[18:37] OK, that was a fun question. So moving on, my question takes
[18:41] us to Stanford University and a professor there who along with
[18:44] his graduate student, came up with this formula.
[18:48] W equals alpha R / R bar log T bar over log T If anybody, any
[18:57] of our audience members don't know what that is, hold on till
[19:01] the end of this question because you can Google once you know
[19:03] what the answer is. Yeah.
[19:05] OK. So W is typically what it's you
[19:09] can use it for work. It's this thing.
[19:12] But in this case you said Stanford professor.
[19:14] So I'm the the thing that comes to mind immediately when you say
[19:16] Stanford professor and this is CSP.
[19:18] Let it be something to temperature because T capital T
[19:20] is typical temperature and then there is something with the
[19:22] radius. Is this by any chance the Fermi
[19:25] paradox? Oh, no, no, no.
[19:27] OK, it's nothing that fancy, but it is, it is important in a in
[19:32] some way. So I'll tell you what actually
[19:34] the letters stand for. T is time, W is actually a
[19:39] score, and W is a word that is derived from the name of the
[19:44] professor. So I've not given you the name
[19:46] of the professor. I can give you that as a first
[19:48] name. So literally the last name of
[19:50] the professor starts with the letter W and that name plus the
[19:55] word score is what we are trying to calculate.
[19:59] And that score is equal to alpha R / R bar log T bar over log TT
[20:05] is. Time.
[20:06] I've not told you what R is. That also would be a hint, so
[20:09] I'll tell you R maybe as we go along.
[20:12] Alpha is a scaling constant. OK, it's proportional to R or
[20:17] longer at the rate as well. So something scale W Stanford
[20:22] professor with his graduate student and the problem is
[20:25] that's a very it's one of those things that is like just
[20:28] insanely that those combinations.
[20:29] There's so many Stanford professors like registrars have
[20:32] done like and probably great things, but.
[20:35] Fair enough, Fair enough. Yeah, it's a.
[20:36] It's a broad, broad category. Maybe give me R?
[20:40] Do you want R or do you want the name of the professor?
[20:42] No, give me R OK. It's the compression ratio.
[20:47] OK, something, some something leads me to compression ratio
[20:53] time. Is this.
[20:56] You said W is the name of the professor though, because and
[20:59] that's core, right? I'm thinking of Shannon's
[21:02] information theorem and things like that right now.
[21:05] Something to do with that. But it's a compression ratio,
[21:08] right? I'll, I'll advise you what
[21:10] Vineet does with me is what you should probably do is try to
[21:13] play me rather than play the question.
[21:16] What is something I'd be interested in?
[21:18] What kind of stuff? I'll tell you more specifically,
[21:20] pop culture is is the field that we are currently concerned with.
[21:25] Compression ratio. So W is the name of the
[21:29] professor. So something to do with the
[21:31] ratio overtime, and it's a logarithmic scale.
[21:35] But what? All right, do you want another
[21:38] hint, HK? Yeah.
[21:41] I'll tell you the name of the professor, and I'll tell you the
[21:43] graduate student also, though that doesn't matter much.
[21:45] The name of the professor was Saki Saki Saki, I think PSACHY
[21:50] Saki Wiseman, and the student is Vineet Misra, so it's the
[21:56] Wiseman score. Wiseman again, why is that so?
[22:02] It's I seem feel like I've heard of this somewhere, Weisman's
[22:05] score compression with time. Is it something that happened
[22:08] recently or like is it something that's in the news recently?
[22:12] Not recently, no. Weisman's score?
[22:16] Is this the Pied Piper thingy that Silicon Valley?
[22:21] Yeah. Yes, Sir.
[22:23] So I have to give you credit because Silicon Valley, the show
[22:27] I only watch because you recommended it highly.
[22:30] So that that's why I thought you would be the perfect person to
[22:32] ask this question for. So any fans of the show, Silicon
[22:35] Valley would know that the show is about a tech startup based in
[22:39] the Bay Area. And what they're trying to do is
[22:42] they're trying to come up with a piece of software, a piece of
[22:44] compression tool which would compress anything like a
[22:48] document or any digital file. They're trying to compress it,
[22:52] and Wiseman score is something that the producers of the show
[22:55] develop to kind of make it easy for the audience to understand
[23:00] that, oh, their particular product is better than XYZ other
[23:03] product and so on and so forth. But because they wanted a level
[23:06] of authenticity to it, they actually approached this
[23:09] particular professor at Stanford University and asked him to
[23:12] develop a proper algorithm, a proper formula for Weisman
[23:17] score. And Saki Wiseman and Vineet
[23:20] Mishra came up with this. And that's how they came up with
[23:22] the name Weisman score. Because the professor at
[23:24] Stanford University who complied with the request was a tacky
[23:28] Weisman. And that is the formula.
[23:30] You can go Google Weisman score and you know what it sounds like
[23:34] or what it's supposed to be. And the Weisman score has been
[23:36] used by Dropbox folks to explain real world work on lossless
[23:41] compression. So this is this also to to
[23:44] tickle the tech nerd in HK and the Silicon Valley fan in HK.
[23:48] So both hopefully were achieved. Well done.
[23:51] Well done. Pretty pretty quickly, Correct.
[23:52] I was recently visiting our friend, mutual friend in
[23:56] Singapore. Sai and Sai and his wife were
[23:59] sitting and watching this TV show.
[24:00] And that's when it just occurred to me.
[24:02] I was just like, oh, interesting.
[24:03] Let's Google where this comes from.
[24:05] Is it an actual thing? And yeah, that's how I came up
[24:08] with this particular piece of trivia.
[24:10] So HK, your turn. OK, so another words match
[24:14] question only. That's going to be the theme of
[24:15] my day. So what was finally proved to be
[24:18] an impossible problem when π was proven to be transcendental by
[24:23] Ferdinand von Linderman in 1882. This was one of the three
[24:28] geometric problems of antiquity and was perhaps first attempted
[24:31] by this mathematician, probably called Annexagoras.
[24:35] OK. Do you know what transcendental
[24:37] means? By the way, just to be
[24:38] clarified. I actually no, I'm not sure.
[24:41] Transcendental like in transcendentalism, I know.
[24:44] Yeah, the transcendental numbers, I think π and E are
[24:49] classic examples. Essentially you can never
[24:52] express it as a root of a non 0 polynomial with integer
[24:56] coefficients. So essentially like there is no
[24:57] way to represent it as so some irrational numbers, for example,
[25:00] right. The the it's it's a special
[25:02] class of irrational numbers you can think of.
[25:04] Oh. Got it, got it, got it.
[25:06] So. Like sqrt 2, for example, is it
[25:08] is the root of Like you know, there's an algebraic expression
[25:11] that you can but for π and E for example, you can never express
[25:15] them as a, as a root of any polynomial with integer
[25:19] coefficients basically. So that's what they call
[25:21] transcendental numbers. There's a particular term for
[25:23] this problem was proved to be impossible essentially when π
[25:26] was proved to be transcendental. OK.
[25:28] And then the second part is Lebohang Muraky, known as Lebo M
[25:33] provided the opening vocals in Zulu for which song that served
[25:38] as a 1994 films opening song. The second part of the question
[25:43] is the name of the song, right? Yes, the name of the song, yeah.
[25:46] So I mean, if you can guess the movie, The name of the song
[25:48] should be fairly often. Yeah, because you said Zulu.
[25:51] I'm in 1994. I'm assuming it's Circle of
[25:53] Life. OK, so which means the first one
[25:55] is. So Cir. or CIRC or whatever
[25:59] circle, something along those lines is the last part and it
[26:04] was proven what? What is proven because of the
[26:06] transcendentalism of π? It's like basically a phrase
[26:09] that encapsulates this mathematical problem.
[26:12] And this was proven to be impossible because π is
[26:15] transcendental. It is a very common like once I
[26:18] tell you the answer is going to be like, you know, like it's
[26:20] almost like an EDM. Now you can not exactly EDM.
[26:23] It's a, it's a phrase that you can.
[26:24] It's, it's a phrase that you'll definitely have heard of.
[26:27] OK. So it's a problem that's been
[26:30] known from antiquity. So it's a very old problem.
[26:32] So you can imagine you kind of know one other thing, right?
[26:35] Like so you saw the second answer Circle of life and π is
[26:37] always associated with what geometric object?
[26:39] So I'm assuming it has something like area of a circle or a.
[26:43] So area of circle. We know the solution too, but
[26:45] there's something. Oh, oh, I know.
[26:48] Is it a phrase Because you said it's such a company.
[26:50] Yeah. Is it?
[26:51] You can't square a circle. Yes, square in the circle was
[26:54] proven to be impossible. Oh, because you can't square a
[26:58] circle because the circle can't be the square root?
[27:00] My God that's insane. I didn't even know this was
[27:03] actual geometry thing. I just.
[27:05] Oh, yeah. Wow, That's, that's really cool.
[27:09] That's really cool. OK, wow.
[27:11] Tell me a little bit more about this problem, though.
[27:15] What does it mean? Like in terms of geometry, Like
[27:17] you can't square a circle? What does it exactly mean?
[27:21] The challenge of constructing a square with the area of a given
[27:24] circle by using only a finite number of steps with a compass
[27:28] and straight edge. So essentially, given an area
[27:31] which is π R square, can you construct, you know, that same
[27:34] area with the combination of squares?
[27:36] And of course, because π is involved, like if you could do
[27:40] that in the finite steps, that would essentially mean that π
[27:43] can be expressed as a combination of, you know,
[27:47] polynomials. But because it's transcendental,
[27:49] you can never. With a finite number of steps,
[27:51] you can never end up with an the exact area of a circle using
[27:54] just squares. Interesting.
[27:56] It reminds me of that phrase circle gets the square, which
[28:00] comes from Hollywood Squares, an American game show from the 70s,
[28:04] which is basically a combination of tic tac toe and Trivial
[28:06] Pursuit. And if a correct answer was
[28:09] given by somebody playing for the circle team, then the host
[28:11] would often respond by saying circle gets the square.
[28:14] It's very interesting. Two such similar sounding
[28:18] phrases are so different. Yeah, I love it.
[28:20] Very cool. OK, that was a fun question.
[28:22] That was a fun question. I'm.
[28:24] I'm surprised I was able to crack it, but OK.
[28:27] Speaking of theories being proven and disproven, I'm going
[28:32] to describe something to you and you tell me what theory did this
[28:36] particular natural phenomenon. Or well, not so much natural,
[28:40] but which phenomenon helped prove.
[28:41] OK, the German word file storch. File storch.
[28:47] I guess I'll spell it out for you.
[28:48] PFEILSTORCH is a stork that is injured by an arrow or a spear.
[28:57] OK. As of 2003, about 25 file storch
[29:03] have been documented in Germany. What did file storches or
[29:09] whatever the plural of that is? I guess it's file storch helped
[29:12] prove. What theory or what?
[29:14] What particular thing that was not proven before did file
[29:19] storches help prove? So in 2003.
[29:22] But I think this theory was proven a while back, right?
[29:24] It's not that recent. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
[29:27] I've come across this, I think in either Atlas of State or some
[29:29] of these podcasts. It's basically bird migration
[29:31] because still now you still that you never had evidence of, you
[29:35] know, like it's the same bird that goes from the same place to
[29:38] another place. And I think this is like
[29:40] something they were able to identify with the arrow or
[29:42] whatever it was short with and like that's only found or that
[29:45] wood is only found in a certain place in the Southern hemisphere
[29:48] or whatnot. And.
[29:49] My God you, you make such a mockery of my questions.
[29:55] It's embarrassing. But yes, it is the right answer
[29:58] because fight Storch were the reason that migration was
[30:03] proven. And it's so interesting because
[30:05] you take these things for granted now and you'd know that
[30:07] this is just common knowledge that there was a time when
[30:10] people look confused as to why the birds used to just disappear
[30:13] during the winter months in Europe.
[30:15] And as it so happens that while winter was in Europe, they would
[30:19] migrate to Africa or some other warmer part of the globe and
[30:23] they might be injured by an arrow or a spear there and of
[30:26] course made with trees there and whatever not.
[30:28] And then when they would come back, they would still, they
[30:31] might still have it. If they didn't die, they might
[30:32] still have it, and they realized this much later.
[30:36] Because before migration, do you want to take a wild guess as to
[30:39] what people thought was happening to the birds?
[30:42] There's like all these crazy things, right?
[30:43] Like I don't know whether it's that same the whole head and
[30:45] carrying babies approach and they thought they would go, they
[30:47] do caves, they would go into caves.
[30:49] There was probably 1 theory. I think that that sounds like a
[30:52] reasonable theory, yeah, Because going into The Cave is probably
[30:55] not that insane. There were other theories that
[30:58] turned into other kinds of birds, like they would just
[31:00] change into another bird, like, like, I don't know, some
[31:03] Pokémon. Yeah, yeah.
[31:05] Something happening there. Or they would turn into mice, or
[31:09] they were hibernating underwater during the winter.
[31:13] That sounds so ridiculous. And I wonder that just truly
[31:17] makes you wonder what are the things we believe today that in
[31:20] a 200 years time, 100 years time, people are going to be
[31:22] like, how did people in 2024 think that this was even
[31:25] remotely scientific? But yeah, people back in the
[31:30] 17th and 18th century, but I think around 17th century, they
[31:34] were, they still had these beliefs.
[31:35] And the 1st and the most famous fight starch was a white Stark
[31:40] found in 1822 near the German village of Klutz.
[31:44] And it was carrying a 75 centimeter spear from Central
[31:48] Africa. And its neck.
[31:49] That's that's pretty insane. Yeah, that is survive that made
[31:53] it back. Yeah, yeah, just like a bad ass
[31:56] carrying it back from Africa all the way to as if it's not
[31:59] already a huge deal that you're flying back from Africa to
[32:01] Europe, you're also doing it with sticking 75 centimeters
[32:05] spear in you. It's pretty much the same size
[32:08] of the bird. Yeah.
[32:10] So interestingly enough, he noted this particular gentleman,
[32:14] Ernst Schulz, who documented a number of these birds with
[32:17] arrows stuck to them. He noted in 1969 that sightings
[32:20] of birds with embedded arrows had declined because of the
[32:24] replacement of bows and arrows by guns.
[32:26] Another reason why we should go back to bows and arrows go from
[32:29] guns. Just to chance that you would
[32:32] prove some natural, yeah. World was a much better place,
[32:35] yeah. Hawk, I would agree.
[32:38] All right. OK, HK, your turn.
[32:41] OK, so this is I, I mean, I'm not sure if this is your
[32:44] strongest suit in terms of history and whatnot, but I'm
[32:47] fairly certain you can get this. So, and if this question holds
[32:50] kind of a, a special place close to me because my teammate, both
[32:55] of us have actually been to the place that's represent the
[32:57] question. And so, and we particularly
[32:59] remember this this fact because it's a very common thing.
[33:02] And you will I'll tell you what the question is.
[33:03] The question is which species of tree native to an island nation
[33:08] is found in abundance in the central Indian city of Mandu, so
[33:12] much so that the fruits are known as Mandu Ki idli.
[33:15] That's the first question. OK, the second question is how
[33:19] do we better know the eldest son of Umar Sheikh Mirza the second,
[33:23] the governor of Farghana born Zahiruddin Muhammad?
[33:26] We know him better by a feline name.
[33:29] You say by a feline name. Feline.
[33:32] Tiger, Tiger. No, I'll tell you the read on
[33:36] the second question. How do we better know the eldest
[33:38] son of Umar Sheikh Mirza the Second, the governor of Farghana
[33:43] born Zahiruddin Muhammad? We know him better by a feline.
[33:47] Feline. I was thinking Tiger Patotti,
[33:49] but yeah, OK, Then I'm thinking something like share, share Khan
[33:53] share, something like that. Is it?
[33:56] Am I close? When you say share tan which
[33:59] share there are so many so like. I of course mean the one from
[34:04] The Jungle Book. And then you're a few centuries
[34:08] off if you're thinking Jungle Book.
[34:11] OK. But I'm assuming it's something
[34:12] share. If it is shared, that means the
[34:14] first part of the question has to end with SHESH.
[34:17] I am not confirming that it's shared by the way.
[34:19] OK, I'm I'm going off of that tangent.
[34:21] If not then I'm completely off. We also mentioned the imli of
[34:26] Mandu. So it's called Manduki imli.
[34:28] This nature of three, which is native to an island nation, is
[34:32] found in abundance in Mandu. So Mandu is where, for example,
[34:35] like I. That's why that's the
[34:36] connection. Like I visited Mandu a year ago
[34:38] and. Is it only found on that island
[34:40] nation and in Mandu or is it also in other places just old?
[34:43] So it's native to that island nation now.
[34:45] It's obviously spread away from the island nation.
[34:48] Mandu Ki imli. I'm trying to think of something
[34:51] that would either in taste or shape or form, be close to
[34:55] tamarind. Is it by any chance Dates?
[34:58] But dates are not from an island nation, so.
[35:00] No, some of these things, it's very difficult to trace the
[35:05] ancestry of this one we know for sure because it's an island
[35:08] nation That's a, that's a, it's a very old island also, right?
[35:11] It's a very interesting island, ecologically speaking.
[35:14] And then this tree was native to that island and now it's been
[35:17] introduced in other regions, including Mandu, that it's very
[35:20] famous and it's like a landmark there almost.
[35:23] The second one, I don't know if you, I would say focus on
[35:26] Fargana. And the hint I'll give you is
[35:28] Fargana is now in modern day Uzbekistan.
[35:31] Oh. That that hint just makes it
[35:35] much tougher for me. It will not really.
[35:38] If you remember your Indian history, this should not be
[35:41] particularly difficult at all because.
[35:43] Yeah. We have.
[35:45] Fargana in Uzbekistan and born Zahiruddin Muhammad.
[35:49] Zahiruddin Muhammad what? If not, share What are the
[35:53] feline name can you have? Really, the feline is throwing
[35:56] you off. Just think Zahiruddin Muhammad
[35:58] Uzbekistan. What would and Zahiruddin What
[36:01] kind of a name is it and what would you like what what?
[36:04] Who should you be thinking of? Zahiruddin Muhammad Uzbekistan
[36:08] some assuming it is some sort of Middle Eastern ruler who came
[36:13] into India, either invaded and conquered.
[36:15] Uzbekistan is not Middle Eastern.
[36:17] By the way, Central Asian already.
[36:18] Uzbekistan is Central Asian. A big difference.
[36:21] A big difference. Central Asian.
[36:25] My knowledge of Uzbekistan is limited to the fact that its
[36:29] capitalist Tashkent. OK, no, OK, let me try this.
[36:33] This is it's not your turnover. Ghazni and all of those guys and
[36:39] none of those Afghan rulers either.
[36:42] Was Babar from Uzbekistan 00? Is it Babar?
[36:47] It is Babar. Yeah, Sahiruddin Mohammed.
[36:49] Babar. Yeah.
[36:50] Sahiruddin Mohammed Babar. It's just it's always popular
[36:54] now. I just saw.
[36:55] Yeah, he's watching me struggle with getting Pagana summer.
[36:59] Come twice. He tried to catch the Summer can
[37:02] fail, then came to Kabul and then came to, you know.
[37:05] That is true. That is true.
[37:07] Yeah. I should really read up and
[37:10] brush up on my Indian history, but OK, Babar, Babar.
[37:14] Oh, so BBB. Oh.
[37:19] Is it that I think it's B? So then there's a Babu letter
[37:22] which is in common from Madagascar, the Baobab.
[37:28] Baobab. Yes, it's the baobab tree, Yeah.
[37:32] Wait, those trees are found in central India?
[37:35] In Mandu, yes. In everywhere Everywhere, yes.
[37:39] The iconic baobab trees are found everywhere.
[37:41] Those are like, that's the first thing I think of when I think of
[37:44] Madagascar. That and the movie.
[37:47] OK Wow, interesting Baobabs are in India?
[37:51] That really blows my mind. That blows my mind.
[37:53] You saw these, huh, When you were there?
[37:55] Yes, yes, I just mentioned also I mean there's not nothing
[37:58] historical about them person, but it is they were introduced.
[38:01] I probably most likely by the British I presume, but yeah.
[38:04] I'm looking at the picture and they do look slightly different
[38:06] though from the Madagascar version of the Baba.
[38:09] But yeah, I can see, I can see the resemblance.
[38:12] I mean, perhaps the adaptation is.
[38:13] Because if you see the classical bababab, it has that very
[38:17] umbrella sort of feature it like it is only at the very top are
[38:21] the branches and like a very long sort of.
[38:25] Correct. But you'll see that here also
[38:27] that that tall and distinct you'll see.
[38:30] Wow, OK, baobabs are in India. That that is my TIL for this
[38:36] episode. Again, from that lovely piece of
[38:40] TIL moment, I'm going to ask you hopefully something that you
[38:43] will remember because this was my favorite piece of trivia when
[38:46] I was drawing up the questions. And this brings us to the United
[38:52] States of America, to Bronx in New York, specifically Theodore
[38:56] Livingston. Are you familiar with this name?
[38:59] Theodore Livingston, No. OK.
[39:01] Theodore Livingston had a certain hobby, and I'm talking
[39:04] about 1975 here, had a certain hobby that was rather noisy.
[39:09] Furious with the noise, his mum one afternoon entered the room
[39:14] and told Theodore to stop it. To stop it and, or, or, or she's
[39:19] going to shut this entire thing down.
[39:20] Shut the entire operation down. According to Theodore, while his
[39:24] mum was standing in the doorway scolding him, he had just
[39:28] temporarily paused the entire thing and but not like stopped
[39:32] it completely. And because he had paused it, a
[39:36] certain sound emanated that has become iconic today.
[39:41] OK, what sound is Theodore known for?
[39:45] What sound did Theodore Livingston come up with in 1975?
[39:50] Multiple directions. One thing that comes to mind is
[39:52] BJ's. And like the record scratch,
[39:55] that's one thing that comes to mind.
[39:56] Don't even bother with any other answer.
[39:58] HK, you have already got in the right answer.
[40:01] Man, that was too quick. I tried to make that so hard.
[40:03] I tried to make it so hard but yes.
[40:06] Theodore Livingston was a budding DJ, His older brother
[40:10] was his mentor who had taught him DJing at a very young age.
[40:13] So Theodore used to love doing this in his room.
[40:15] And his mum just arrived at the noise, came into the room one
[40:18] day and told him to lower the volume where she's going to just
[40:20] turn off the music. And he, while listening to his
[40:22] mum's cold, just held the record down with his hand.
[40:26] And just then he heard that rubbing back and forth cause the
[40:29] scratching sound. And after his mother left,
[40:32] Theodore realized he liked the sound and thought it would be a
[40:33] good idea to incorporate into his D Jing.
[40:35] So the DJ scratch the very, very iconic, OK, I can't do the
[40:39] sound. But that sound is credited to
[40:42] Theodore Livingston's moment in his childhood when he was trying
[40:46] to DJ and his mum scolded him. So mums, go ahead and scold it.
[40:50] So you never know what cool thing might come out of it.
[40:53] He gained credibility, by the way, for his mastery of needle
[40:55] drops and other techniques also, which he invented and perfected.
[40:58] So he's pretty well known. He's better known as the Grand
[41:01] Wizard Theodore. So if you're a TJ enthusiast,
[41:04] you might have heard of the Grand Wizard Theodore, that is
[41:07] Theodore Livingston. He was, by the way, only 12
[41:09] years old when he came up with this because he was born in 1963
[41:12] and this happened in 1970. 50 Dan.
[41:15] OK. OK.
[41:16] HK the last question of the episode, on to you.
[41:19] OK, I'm gonna pull on something that I know we both enjoy.
[41:23] Is another common thing that they do I think is mentioned
[41:25] before. Also it's age of this game
[41:26] called Age of Mythology. So this question relates to
[41:30] Greek mythology. One of the questions at least.
[41:32] So the first part is which actresses first role was
[41:36] portraying Bridget Reeland in the 2005 movie Sisterhood of the
[41:41] Travelling Pack. Though most people remember her
[41:44] for her fashionably iconic role in the TV series.
[41:47] Adapted from the book series by Cecily von Zigessart.
[41:51] OK. Now this is the first question.
[41:52] The second question is known as the Isles of the Blessed in the
[41:56] Hesiod. What is the Greek idea of the
[41:59] paradisical afterlife, where the souls of the heroic and the
[42:03] virtuous reside? So the first one pertains to an
[42:07] actor, an actress specifically. I think you said specifically.
[42:10] Yeah, yeah. Whose first role was Bridget
[42:12] Breeland? And the second one that it
[42:14] smashes into is the. Basically, it's a term for the
[42:18] Greek idea of afterlife, Greek idea of paradise, where the
[42:22] souls of the heroic and the virtuous reside.
[42:25] Greek paradise because as you mentioned, age of mythology, I
[42:29] think I was more of a Norse fan and so the Norse mythology I
[42:34] think that that thing is called. Ragnarok Ragnarok is the That's
[42:40] the day, the day the world ends in Norse mythology.
[42:43] OK so I don't know, I was thinking Ragnarok but no so
[42:47] Greek. I'm very certain that you've
[42:50] heard this. The second answer definitely if
[42:52] not in the Greek mythology context, but in like another
[42:55] context. Oh no, I'm pretty sure if it is
[42:57] AM related. I have heard it because I have.
[42:59] Yeah, this term is specifically mentioned in the AOM.
[43:02] I don't think this term is specifically mentioned in the
[43:03] AOM mythology itself, but yeah, but this.
[43:06] OK then I've not heard it. No, no, you 100% heard it not,
[43:09] not in the AOM context, 100% you've.
[43:11] Heard OK, but let's talk about the actor first, because that
[43:16] might be the easier you said Cicero travelling bats was her
[43:19] was her first role, but she's well known for ATV adaptation
[43:22] of. Basically for it's a fashionably
[43:25] iconic role in a in ATV series, which is adapted from the book
[43:28] series by Cecily von Ziegasar. I can maybe give you that if
[43:32] that is helpful because I OK, Yeah, yeah.
[43:36] I think I've heard of the name of this person.
[43:38] Is it Gossip Girl? Are we talking Blake Lively?
[43:40] Yes, which means the second answer is.
[43:43] Blake Lively of VLYELY Elysium Elysium it.
[43:49] Is Elysium. Oh okay, I've not heard it in
[43:52] the AM context, but I've heard of Elysium obviously.
[43:55] Very interesting. Well, I did not know that this
[43:57] is a Greek idea of heaven, right?
[44:00] Paradise, afterlife. So because paradise, it's not
[44:03] like, I mean, yeah, because in Greek, I mean afterlife there
[44:05] are multiple like Hades is of course well known now.
[44:08] So where there's a like most people end up in like this, it's
[44:12] called, I think there's a particular term for it.
[44:13] Also there. It's a field, endless field
[44:16] where you just like, you know, stand around an eternity and
[44:19] then the few are tortured in tatrice.
[44:22] They're like, you know, for your sins and whatnot.
[44:24] And then the the blessed, the words are given the halls of
[44:28] Elysium. And even within Elysium, I think
[44:30] there's an even more exclusive quarter for the, you know,
[44:33] that's how it goes. Oh man, privilege never ends.
[44:37] OK. I love it.
[44:38] Elysium. That's where it comes from.
[44:40] Lovely. Wow.
[44:41] OK, if you had given the hint of Matt Damon movie.
[44:46] Yeah, that's the thing. I I never been given that's I
[44:48] said you 100%. You know the term Elysium?
[44:50] Because Neil Blomkamp's first film was is one of my still one
[44:54] of my favorite films when it comes to science fiction and
[44:57] some realistic portrayal of science fiction.
[44:59] District 9. But yeah.
[45:00] OK. Wow.
[45:01] Fun question. Elysium and Blake Lively.
[45:04] I like it. I like it.
[45:06] Very cool. This is a fun format.
[45:07] It was 2 questions combined into one with a lovely bridge there.
[45:11] Quite literally. Yeah.
[45:13] Thank you for introducing this format, HK.
[45:16] And that brings us to the end of this episode.
[45:18] And as always, this is where we do a little bit of a pop culture
[45:22] recommendation round. So HK, you want to hit us with
[45:25] any pop culture recommendations you might have?
[45:28] I have two book recommendations and one TV anime recommendation.
[45:34] One book recently was called the Blast Anthology of Tamil Pulp
[45:39] Fiction. I particularly read volume to
[45:41] just it's like, you know, it's so nice to go back to like Pulp
[45:43] Fiction after like reading your normal fiction and whatnot
[45:46] because it's so easy. It's so easy to read.
[45:49] It's a pleasure and you that's why pulp is pulp, right?
[45:51] Like, you know, it's there's nothing quite like a good murder
[45:54] mystery or a supernatural thriller to get you to just
[45:57] like, you know how real page Turner.
[45:59] So this publishing house called Blast and in general, they do a
[46:02] lot of work on elevating some of the sort of lesser known voices
[46:07] that are probably a big part of many people's lives, but had not
[46:10] gotten the recognition because they're based, you know, in
[46:12] their particular languages. So for example, the Tamil one is
[46:16] it's beautiful. Some of the stories are
[46:17] wonderful. And it's not like you have to be
[46:19] Tamil to know the references of what because you know, like
[46:21] murder, intrigue, mysteries, universal themes.
[46:24] They have, I think, another anthology, which is Gujarati
[46:26] Pulp Fiction. And they have a few other books
[46:28] in one of the book that they're very well known for is entire
[46:30] collection of folk tales, monsters and myths in India.
[46:34] Like it's a kind of an encyclopedia of like different
[46:36] tales. So black publications.
[46:38] Check them out. They're a small publishing house
[46:40] based out of Chennai, I think, but you can order online and
[46:42] whatnot. And another one was this short
[46:45] story connection called the greatest Malayalam Stories Ever
[46:47] Told. So this is published by Aleph.
[46:50] The series is like, you know, the greatest blank ever told.
[46:53] So they have, I think, of some 10 other languages so far.
[46:56] This is the greatest Tamil stories ever told Punjabi, Urdu,
[46:59] Bengali, Assamese if I'm not mistaken, Telugu and whatnot.
[47:03] So check them out again, you're fairly certain you'll get them
[47:06] in your local bookstore or Amazon.
[47:09] Alice publishing the greatest blank stories ever told again.
[47:12] Wonderful 50 stories that span like the entirety of Malayalam
[47:17] short story culture, which is one of the probably one of the
[47:21] older ones in India. I think the earliest stories are
[47:23] from early 20th century, late 19th century, and then the story
[47:27] span all the way up kind of presentation.
[47:29] You see the themes kind of differ and like some something
[47:31] stays the same, something's dangerous.
[47:33] It's a wonderful way to kind of learn about little bit about
[47:36] another culture as well. So those are the two kind of
[47:38] book recommendations. And I'm still not finished this,
[47:42] but I'm watching this anime called Monster, which I think we
[47:45] need to definitely approve of. I know he's mentioned this
[47:47] earlier. It's a very slow burn, like
[47:50] psychological, dark, slightly depressing anime.
[47:53] You can't watch multiple at the same time.
[47:55] But maybe I've given different one, which is maybe a little
[47:58] more light hearted. I'm a big fan of this thing.
[48:01] I know. Again, I've mentioned it or not,
[48:02] it's a midnight diner. It's a series on Netflix.
[48:06] It's a wonderful whatever. That's the opposite of
[48:08] everything I said about Monster. It's a it's a very lovely TV
[48:11] series, technically kind of an anthology, like the character is
[48:14] repeat, but it's not like a collection of stories.
[48:17] So the premise is very simple. There's this guy, a chef that's
[48:20] all his master is what everyone calls him.
[48:23] He runs this diner from understandably, from midnight to
[48:26] 7:00 AM. And every episode revolves
[48:28] around like, you know, the people who come to that diner,
[48:31] what are their dishes they order, what's going on in their
[48:33] life. And it's a very sort of
[48:35] wonderful slice of life. It's a nice thing to kind of
[48:37] settle down to when you're eating your dinner or you're
[48:39] watching something, right? Those are.
[48:41] I love it because I have heard of them and Midnight Diner is
[48:45] actually something my sister loves, so she introduced it to
[48:47] me a few years ago and I enjoyed it.
[48:50] I haven't watched all of it, but it felt just very nice.
[48:54] Just just a heartwarming thing to be watching.
[48:56] Chicken Soup for the Soul, I guess.
[48:58] And some, yeah. Definitely Tantanmen ramen for
[49:00] the soul. Ramen for the Soul.
[49:03] Yeah, I'm going to recommend. Actually, the first one that
[49:05] comes to mind is District 9, which is the Neil Blumkamp film
[49:08] that I was talking about before, Elysium.
[49:11] And Elysium is not bad, but District 9 is such a good film,
[49:14] you absolutely must do yourself a favour and watch it.
[49:17] And Speaking of heartwarming stuff, I am going to recommend
[49:21] something that maybe all of us have watched at least partly.
[49:24] And if you have, then it's time to revisit it.
[49:26] It's the Pixar short films, such beautiful films.
[49:30] They're all available online and you can go watch them and they
[49:32] don't even take that much time. We we perhaps sometimes don't
[49:35] give enough credit to short films as form of art because
[49:39] feature films take over the interest.
[49:41] But Pixar short films are just beautiful short films.
[49:45] All of them. And I'm going to name just a few
[49:47] that I love the most, though all of them are pretty great.
[49:50] Presto, one of my absolute favorite ones.
[49:52] Presto, it's just so funny. Lovely film.
[49:56] Piper Piper is photorealistic and it's just some of the most
[50:00] beautiful animation that I've seen from Pixar.
[50:04] So Piper is one of them. Bow absolutely heartwarming.
[50:08] It's also it has this lovely Asian story attached to it,
[50:13] which I guess I relate to because I have I've had friends
[50:15] who are Chinese, so I get that. Two more that I'd recommend Day
[50:19] and night. I think it was the first one
[50:21] that I still remember seeing. It is very new and very
[50:23] interesting and felt very refreshing as a animation
[50:27] animated film. And the last one I'd recommend
[50:29] is Partly Cloudy. So all of these are short films
[50:32] from Pixar, but trust me, every single of the originals from
[50:37] Pixar are great. Some of them are tied into like
[50:39] their movies. Also something from Inside Out
[50:42] and something from wall-e and something from the rest of their
[50:45] franchises. Go check those all out.
[50:47] Go watch all of the Pixar short films.
[50:49] But these are my top recommendations of the Pixar
[50:51] short films that I love. And that brings us to the end of
[50:54] this episode. Thank you so much, HK, joining
[50:57] us one more time at the very last minute.
[50:58] But you delivered. And how I love these questions.
[51:01] I love the format. I might bring it back and I
[51:03] might bring it to Vineet one of these days.
[51:05] If any of our audience members have any questions to
[51:08] contribute, please go ahead and do so.
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[51:31] So, yeah, address a question to any of the quiz masters that you
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[51:44] because that's the best way and the easiest way for us to grow.
[51:47] And that brings us to the end of the episode.
[51:48] So thank you so much for tuning in and we will see you guys next
[51:53] week.

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