# Episode 034 - NASA, Edison & Nazi Bears

An episode of [Are You Quizzing Me?](https://invisiblenetwork.ai/podcast/1663104901), 1 Sep 2023, 43 min.

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Do you know which everyday product, much beloved in South America and Asia is closely related to NASA space missions, that many erroneously believe that it was invented by NASA scientists? Do you know which artistic instrument has its origins with Edison's electric pen? Do you know why the Golden Bear Award design at the Berlin Film Festival was modified in 1960? Tune in to find out! You can reach us at Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/areyouquizzingme/ Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/areyouquizzingme Email: areyouquizzingme@gmail.com

## Transcript

[0:01] Welcome to Are You Quizzing Me? I'm Maneet Nayar with my cohost,
[0:05] Aditya Kashyap. This is a quizzing trivia pod
[0:07] question. Join us as we dive deep into
[0:10] history, science, sport, pop, gotcha, and so much more.
[0:13] Pet skin Quizzing. And it's another Day, another
[0:18] episode. Welcome to Episode #34 of Are
[0:22] You Quizzing Me? We're back with a boatload of
[0:26] questions and some silly jokes. Let's start of the episode with
[0:30] an audience question, the answer for which I will reveal at the
[0:34] end of the episode. Circumstellar habitable zones is
[0:39] the range of orbits around the star within which a planet can
[0:42] support liquid water, given the appropriate atmospheric
[0:45] conditions. To be precise, this habitable
[0:48] zone has just the right temperature, and Earth and
[0:52] Kepler 186 F are some planets found to lie in these orbits.
[0:57] What other name do circumstellar habitable zones or Chz's go by?
[1:03] Let me repeat the question. Circumstellar habitable zone is
[1:07] the range of orbits around the star within which a planet can
[1:10] support liquid water given the appropriate atmospheric
[1:13] conditions. To be precise, this habitable
[1:16] zone has to have just the right temperature.
[1:18] Earth and Kepler 186 F Are some planets found to lie in these
[1:22] orbits? What other name or what more
[1:25] popular name do Chc's go by? You will reveal the answer to
[1:29] this at the end. And let's start off with our
[1:33] long standing tradition of torture at the hands of Aditya's
[1:38] sharp weight. So Aditya, you asked a very
[1:41] sharp question last week and what is your answer for the
[1:45] same? The question I asked last week
[1:47] was Voyager One and Voyager 2 had these phonograph records
[1:52] which was supposed to encapsulate humanity and and
[1:56] show us off. Too many intelligent species out
[1:59] there in the world. And I was asking our audience,
[2:03] what is it that we missed out on putting onto those records.
[2:06] There were a lot of images and a lot of sounds that were there.
[2:09] What did we miss out on? And I had a couple of answers.
[2:12] I'm just going to run through a few of them.
[2:14] The first one is we should have definitely put the image of the
[2:20] Miss Universe at that time and just ask them what did they
[2:22] think? Because we have decided this is
[2:24] Miss Universe. Did they agree that this is the
[2:28] most attractive female in the whole of the universe?
[2:32] Or were we being a bit too selfish in our opinion?
[2:36] Apart from that, I also wanted, and this is a bit ahead of its
[2:40] time, but I would have loved to put the picture of the blue and
[2:43] black dress or the yellow and gold and white and gold dress.
[2:46] Just that we could have a final answer from answer.
[2:49] And what do they think is the right answer?
[2:50] Because. Bill Date.
[2:51] I'm still not convinced. Everybody has told me it's blue
[2:54] and black, but I still hold the fact that it is white and gold
[2:56] and everybody else is just lying to me.
[2:58] It's a giant conspiracy theory. It is definitely white and gold.
[3:02] So I would love an alien opinion on that.
[3:04] And just as a final means of measure, we should have also put
[3:08] something which would be intimidating, just that they
[3:10] don't come knocking on our door. And that would be humanity's
[3:14] greatest weapon ever developed. The Nokia 3310.
[3:18] The industry. That's an indestructible weapon
[3:23] that they would never dare attack us out of fear of.
[3:27] Yeah. So these three things I think we
[3:28] should have put on the golden decades.
[3:32] I'm I'm just, you know, speechless.
[3:34] Absolutely speechless. As would the aliens be.
[3:37] We need. This all makes sense.
[3:42] True. True, a little bit of a
[3:44] diversion, but one thing that I've always wondered is that how
[3:47] many of these aliens do have the same sensory organs as do they
[3:51] actually hear anything? Will they be actually able to
[3:53] see anything? They might be life forms with a
[3:56] completely different concept of life.
[3:58] I read somewhere once that we wouldn't be able to know if
[4:01] rocks were alive, because if rocks lives are measured in
[4:05] millions of years, human beings are just flashes to them.
[4:09] Bit too deep after my answer so I don't like how you're making
[4:12] me something. I'm I'm trying to counter
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[4:49] Project Hail Mary. Now that the plug is done and we
[4:53] have somehow survived through Aditya's answer, let's start off
[4:58] the quiz and Aditya, I believe Jordan this week.
[5:02] So hit us with a question. Yeah.
[5:03] So I'm going to start us off with something.
[5:07] In our region of the world, and this is Bhutan that I speak of.
[5:11] So during the late 19th century do our war involving Bhutan and
[5:17] the British Jigme Namgyal. I hope I'm coming close to the
[5:22] actual pronunciation. Jigme Namgyal, father of the
[5:25] first Dragon King, is said to have launched an arrow from
[5:29] afar, praying to Yashe Gonpo, the chief Bhutan's protective
[5:35] deity. The arrow was shot from atop a
[5:37] hill and landed on the British generals forehead, killing him.
[5:42] This is an impressive story. It is an anecdote.
[5:45] It might have some layers of exaggeration and as these things
[5:49] go, but it is it is a big part of the Bhutanese culture.
[5:53] Now what significance has this held till date in Bhutan?
[5:58] And how is it recognizing Bhutan today?
[6:01] Wow, it's a fascinating story by the way.
[6:04] But the thing I have to say, im awfully ignorant about Bhutan in
[6:09] general. I havent given that country much
[6:13] of an importance and I dont know many facts about it except for
[6:17] the television came to them very very late and its a very
[6:21] peaceful and quiet and quite green country.
[6:24] Its very easy for Indians to visit apart.
[6:26] I think thats the sum totality of my knowledge of Bhutan, sad
[6:32] to say that is so. We're talking about one of their
[6:36] one of their folk heroes or maybe historical figures shot an
[6:40] arrow from top of hill which landed on the forehead of
[6:44] British generals, right. So he was like the Carlos
[6:48] Hathcock of Bhutan. Sure, bye.
[6:51] If whoever Carlos Hatcock is, I'm not sure who that is.
[6:54] But yes, he would have used a lot rifle and he was much later
[6:59] during the Vietnam War. OK, I have zero clue about what
[7:03] this is. I don't want even speculate.
[7:05] I have no, no. So this would fall under the
[7:07] category of national symbols of the country.
[7:10] And I use symbol in a very broad sense, not specifically like an
[7:15] emblem or something, but one of the national markers of the
[7:18] country. OK, something to do with their
[7:22] flag. Even broader in terms of
[7:24] national markers, does the Dragon have anything to do with
[7:27] Bhutan, or am I confusing it for others?
[7:30] No. No, the dragon is an important
[7:32] symbol in Bhutanese culture, but this is not the right answer in
[7:37] this case. Nope, I'll need something more
[7:40] close. Basically just the dummies
[7:42] version of this question. Okay.
[7:44] Since then X, so let's call it X.
[7:48] Has been a hallmark of Bhutanese culture, in their military, in
[7:52] their religion, especially amongst the men but even women,
[7:57] but mostly the men and general society and life.
[8:03] Is this a sartorial choice of some sort, or at least a fashion
[8:05] choice or something? It's a great guess, but no, in
[8:08] this case it's not really the answer.
[8:10] No, no. Among the men, not something
[8:13] they wear. Something they do?
[8:17] Nope. Nothing.
[8:18] Zip, zip. Nada 0.
[8:21] It could be said it's a national pastime.
[8:24] That means you closer if you can relate the story to this little
[8:29] anecdote I share. OK, so somebody spells and sends
[8:32] an arrow. Do they mind, you know, shooting
[8:36] arrows or something? I'll give it to you because
[8:38] that's as close as you're going to get, I imagine.
[8:40] Are you kidding? No, no, they don't mind.
[8:42] Archery is the national sport of Bhutan.
[8:46] That is what I was doing. Oh OK, I I was over thinking
[8:51] this. Way too many levels suppose.
[8:53] It wasn't that complicated, but that is one of the most
[8:56] important folklores that has led to archery being very important
[8:59] in the country. And today, most Bhutanese men
[9:03] apparently have an unleashed passion for archery and I'm
[9:06] quoting a website here when I say that.
[9:08] And it is also the national sport of Bhutan.
[9:11] It's one of those unique national sports because a lot of
[9:13] the national sports are these common team sports.
[9:15] It's football or it's your hockey or all these kind of
[9:18] things. But for Bhutan, it's archery and
[9:23] it stems in these few historical anecdotes, the most important
[9:27] one which I just mentioned. That's one of the reasons that
[9:31] Bhutan today values archery so much.
[9:34] Wow, that's a very nice question.
[9:37] It pivots to my question in no way whatsoever, so I'll just say
[9:40] it. So my question is as follows.
[9:43] Thomas Edison, you know, brilliant man, recognized the
[9:47] impossible demand for a high speed copying device after he
[9:52] saw there was a lot of document duplication required and a lot
[9:55] of professions, merchants, lawyers, etcetera.
[9:59] So he invented the electric pen in 1876.
[10:04] Later, this device that he invented was adapted in 1891 to
[10:10] become the first blank. What did this invention turn to,
[10:15] which is still being used today? I.
[10:18] Wanna say a stylus? No, not a stylus.
[10:21] An electric pen? Which year did you say that it
[10:24] was? Yes, an electric pen.
[10:26] Which year was it invented? In it was invented.
[10:28] The electric pen was invented by Edison in 1876, and later in
[10:33] 1891 it was adapted to become the first blank.
[10:41] I'll give you the name. I don't know if this will help
[10:43] you, most probably not. But in 1891 an inventor by the
[10:47] name of Samuel O'Reilly modified this to create the world's first
[10:53] blank X, whatever you want to call it.
[10:56] So what was it adapted into becoming?
[10:59] It's supposed to be electric. I'm just trying to think of ways
[11:01] to. I was thinking of carbon copy,
[11:03] you know that little. That you used to create but
[11:07] electric and it was meant to solve.
[11:09] The initial problem that it is and was trying to solve was the
[11:12] need for making a lot of copies and professions.
[11:15] Yeah, basically a high speed copying device which could
[11:18] duplicate documents very quickly.
[11:20] And the eventual use that Samuel Riley, I believe his his product
[11:26] or whatever his device was supposed to do the exact same
[11:28] thing. His adaptation of this device
[11:31] has nothing to do with copying documents.
[11:34] And I need a clue. I would say that it's the
[11:37] primary use of. This is not the primary use
[11:40] practically. The only use of this particular
[11:42] modification is in the realm of art and self-expression.
[11:50] I'm being vague and trying to make clues which will sound make
[11:52] sense later, but are absolutely clueless now to just roll with
[11:56] it for. Seems around the right time for
[11:58] photography and I'm thinking something like a selfie because
[12:01] you just said self-expression. Oh, there are a lot of ways of
[12:05] expressing you know yourself. I'll give you another clue.
[12:09] The art form that we're talking about now has reality TV shows
[12:14] dedicated to it. That that's that's too vague a
[12:17] clue. And it's like you can make a
[12:18] reality short of anything these days, I swear.
[12:21] The number of reality shows that I see the There's this one which
[12:24] is called Is this the real cake or not Or something along those
[12:27] lines and literally all people are doing this.
[12:30] Them making imitation takes of real life.
[12:32] Wait, I remember this. I I think I saw a trailer for
[12:36] this. It's where like realistic
[12:37] looking cakes where they have to guess when it's an actual cake
[12:40] on the actual object. Yes, I remember seeing.
[12:42] That then. And of course there is no end to
[12:43] the dating. I'm sorry, I'm gonna rant a
[12:45] little bit. This is random dating show that
[12:47] I saw a trailer for where there are a bunch of slightly older
[12:51] women and I believe their sons. And these are the two groups of
[12:54] people. And then you can date your
[12:56] friend's mom, I guess, or something like that.
[12:59] So they're dating each other's like mothers, which is just like
[13:03] such a strange. Set up for I don't Yeah, the the
[13:07] producer on that has watched too much.
[13:09] I don't know. I don't know what what edible
[13:11] complex he has. I have no idea what he's trying
[13:14] to work through in this case. No, I don't think he.
[13:16] I think he's basically watched too much pornography that he
[13:19] can't distinguish, you know, between fantasy and real life.
[13:21] I yeah, yeah. I don't know.
[13:23] I don't even want to try to psychoanalyze.
[13:25] No, I saw this show that popped up on the Amazon feed by Amazon
[13:30] Prime Feed Naked and Afraid or something like that, where
[13:33] apparently the dating show where everybody's naked oh.
[13:35] OK, I thought it was just newborn babies.
[13:40] No, it's not naked and afraid. Naked and love or something.
[13:42] I I can't remember the name, but the basic conceit of the show
[13:46] was that, you know, everybody's naked.
[13:53] OK, so rants over. Let's go.
[13:55] Back to the point, There are too many reality shows out there.
[13:58] Too many reality shows, yeah. I don't know.
[14:00] You said reality show and electric and trying to think of
[14:03] something shaped like a pen. Is it a microphone by any
[14:06] chance? I don't know.
[14:08] No. OK, so let me get let me give
[14:09] you this. Even though the this particular
[14:12] item, now that it's been adapted, is erroneously
[14:16] sometimes called a gun, and people in the art form into that
[14:22] particular industry are people who use it, Most of them hated
[14:26] that. It's called a gun.
[14:29] Know I'm completely blank right now, so you might as well put me
[14:32] on my misery and shoot me with the answer.
[14:35] OK, OK, let me just give you one last clue to see if you can get
[14:39] it. You see parlors which will be
[14:42] using this all across Goa if you would come down to the beaches.
[14:49] People get very highly paid to use this particular product to
[14:54] create self-expression. Where your body is the canvas.
[14:58] Oh, OK yeah. Tattoo gun, I would imagine, but
[15:02] I it's not a tattoo gun, it's a tattoo machine, OK?
[15:05] I I use the same misnomer that but wait, wow, I would have
[15:10] never connected this in a million years.
[15:11] How is this related to India exactly?
[15:13] The I saw this and I was like, well, I really have to put this
[15:16] in a question. Yeah, so the predecessor to the
[15:18] tattoo machine was Thomas Edison's electric pen, which was
[15:21] patented under the title Stencil Pen in New York, New Jersey in
[15:26] 1876. It was originally intended to be
[15:29] used as a duplicating device, but in 1891, Samuel O'Reilly
[15:33] discovered that Edison's machine could be modified and used to
[15:37] introduce ink into the skin, and later patented a tube and needle
[15:41] system to provide an ink reservoir.
[15:44] Modern day tattoo machines use electromagnets, so which is a
[15:49] modification? It's not exactly how it used to
[15:51] be in Edison's day, or rather some Samuel O'reilly's day.
[15:55] But yeah, we owe the presence of the tattoo machine to Edison's
[16:02] self replicating electric pen or duplicating electric pen.
[16:07] That's that is insane. I am blown away by the fact that
[16:11] a device which I would have never related to tattoos was the
[16:17] inspiration behind the tattoo machine.
[16:18] And kudos to this guy is the right for.
[16:21] Figuring out this insanely creative use of electric fan?
[16:26] Yeah, pretty good. And have you seen those reality
[16:30] shows where tattoo artists compete against each other?
[16:34] See now? OK, now this is what I mean.
[16:36] Like I didn't even know there's a reality show about tattoo
[16:37] artist. But I'm not surprised.
[16:39] I am sure there is one. There is a reality show about
[16:42] that. Yeah, it's called Ink Master.
[16:44] Of course it is. It's called Ink Master.
[16:49] And the thing about it is they're they actually have real
[16:53] life people. They have real life people on
[16:57] whom these tattoo artists, you know, perform.
[17:01] They mean like they create art pieces on real life people and
[17:04] then compete among each other. So if one of them screws up,
[17:09] it's like, it's it's fascinating to watch and they call the the
[17:15] people who volunteer to get tattooed, they're called human
[17:19] canvases. OK, the show is bonkers.
[17:24] Trust me, it's bonkers. Word for it.
[17:26] I will take your word for it. Yeah, it's got 14 seasons.
[17:33] Not kidding. 14 seasons. They did miss out on the naming
[17:37] operation. They missed out on a naming
[17:39] opportunity. I feel like they could have
[17:41] called it such interesting things.
[17:42] They could have been like a tattoo, hot to handle.
[17:46] Or oh, that is good. That is good.
[17:51] Yeah, you know that I think there are there are many options
[17:53] there, but anyways go ahead, you said 14 who's host?
[17:56] Who's host 14 Seasons and it's hosted by Dave Navarro, if you
[17:59] remember, was the guitarist for Red Hot Chili Peppers.
[18:05] OK, so your turn. Speaking of leaving a mark,
[18:11] that's my segue segue. Theodore.
[18:17] I'm not giving his full name. Theodore is the author of
[18:21] Industrial Society and Its Future, and this was a critique
[18:27] opposing industrialization, rejecting leftism, and
[18:30] advocating nature centrism. Theodore is infamous today.
[18:36] And is known by a very specific name.
[18:39] So let me give you a timeline, just so that things are a bit
[18:41] clearer. The thing that he's infamous for
[18:45] happened in the 70s, the 80s, around that timeframe.
[18:48] OK, so for two decades over there, Theodore is also a famous
[18:53] mathematician. Who or what do we know him
[18:57] better as? OK, so when you say Theodore,
[19:02] first of all, nobody calls himself Theo, right?
[19:06] Nobody calls him. Like even if you're named
[19:08] Theodore, they don't go by Theodore, They all go by Ted or
[19:11] Teddy. Now when you say Theodore, the
[19:13] first name that obviously comes to mind is Roosevelt.
[19:15] But no, he wasn't anything to do with this.
[19:18] Which leads me to believe that you say Theodore specifically to
[19:21] make, not to divert my attention and make me not think of Ted.
[19:26] And it's also the fact that I have a fairly good idea about
[19:29] who this is. And I was waiting for you to
[19:31] finish this question so I could pounce.
[19:34] If I'm not mistaken, this man is famous for having murdered
[19:38] around 40 women. You would be incorrect,
[19:41] actually. Oh, this is interesting.
[19:44] Okay, I thought I've had it nailed, that it was Ted Bundy.
[19:48] So it's not Ted Bundy? Not Ted Bundy, No.
[19:51] Is it Ted from Bill and Ted's Excellent Adventure?
[19:55] No, no, no. This is that would be a
[19:58] fantastic answer. Now I wish that was my question.
[20:01] I really want a retractively in my question.
[20:04] But no, this is an actual person, not a fictional.
[20:08] OK, so famous other Ted's? Ted Kennedy?
[20:13] No, I don't think he was a mathematician.
[20:16] He told me he's a famous mathematician, right?
[20:19] Him being a mathematician is also something that is part of
[20:21] his lore, but he's not famous for being a mathematician.
[20:26] OK, so Theodore and he's first. He's famous for something he did
[20:31] in the 70s. 75 To Almost two decades later.
[20:36] OK, so he's still famous. He's still famous.
[20:39] Yeah. The name is probably something
[20:40] you've heard of. Probably most people have heard
[20:42] of the guy who played Ivan Drago in Rocky Four or Rocky Three.
[20:46] No, no, no. He has a doctorate or something,
[20:49] right? He's a math.
[20:49] President like a Yes. He is a chemist, I believe.
[20:53] By by a profession or by Don. OK.
[20:56] Don Franklin, No. No, this is somebody who is
[20:59] infamous. Infamous.
[21:02] I think I mentioned infamous. OK, I that's what the moment you
[21:05] mentioned infamous, I was like, I've got this, this is Ted
[21:07] Bundy. Also died not too long ago, June
[21:11] 10th, 2023. OK, give me a clue.
[21:14] And I'm loving this question by the way.
[21:16] The name we know him by. Is actually the name derived
[21:19] from how the FBI identified his case file.
[21:24] OK, this is Deep Throat. Oh.
[21:27] No, no, no. Deep Throat is the phone film.
[21:30] No, no, no. This is this has nothing to do
[21:31] with no, I was OK, So OK, let's let me just clarify this for the
[21:35] audience. I was talking about the actual
[21:37] source for Woodward and Bernstein, who was nicknamed
[21:40] Deep Throat, and Aditya's mind straight went to the Linda
[21:44] Lovelace porn film. Make of that what you will.
[21:47] I'm I just, I'm a child of cinema.
[21:50] I don't know what to tell you. Let's assume that's why.
[21:56] OK, OK. No, nothing.
[21:58] I'm, I'm. I'm completely blank.
[21:59] Sorry, I think I said 1975. I meant 1978 between 1978 and
[22:05] 1995. So for that period of 17 years
[22:09] is when Theodor did the things that he is infamous for.
[22:14] Before that, he was. Studying mathematics, he was
[22:18] also doing a little bit of mathematic work.
[22:21] He also wrote that document that I mentioned industrial society
[22:27] and its future, which is OK. This is this is Ted Kaczynski.
[22:32] This is the Unabomber. This is Unabomber, Ted
[22:35] Kaczynski. You've got that absolutely
[22:37] right. Yes.
[22:39] God, I can't believe it took me so long.
[22:41] OK, this is I I yeah, I knew this is OK.
[22:45] I have to beat myself. I knew this.
[22:47] And I I just completely forgot the fact that he was a
[22:50] mathematician. He was very brilliant.
[22:51] Man, you are. You are being too hard on
[22:53] yourself. You got it very quickly.
[22:54] I would. I'm very impressed.
[22:56] I mean, don't worry. No, no, no, no.
[22:59] To be fair, I went through, let's say, Bill and Ted.
[23:03] Ted from Bill and Ted, I went through Ted Bundy.
[23:05] I went through Ted Kennedy. I even brought in a lot of 100.
[23:09] So please let's be fair, I did not get this query.
[23:14] I I host quizzes very often in Mumbai and there are these few
[23:19] audience members who always give such creative answers that I
[23:21] want to give them points, essay and I think the same Bill and
[23:25] Ted. It's just I would have 100%
[23:29] given you bonus points for being creative if you were in my quiz.
[23:33] So either way, you win. But great job.
[23:35] No, it is the Unabomber, Ted Kaczynski, as he's also known
[23:40] as, and Unabomber actually comes from the fact that the FBI used
[23:45] the case identifier UNABOM UN A/B OM, which stood for
[23:50] University and airline bomber, and the media then started using
[23:55] the moniker Unabomber. Now for those of you who might
[23:59] not be familiar with who the Unabomber was or what did he do,
[24:03] apart from the things that I've already mentioned in his life
[24:06] before 1978, post 1978, Kaczynski or Unabomber mailed or
[24:11] hand delivered a series of increasingly sophisticated bombs
[24:15] that cumulatively killed 3 people and injured 23 others. 16
[24:21] of these bombs were attributed to Kaczynski.
[24:23] The bombing devices varied widely through the years, many
[24:27] containing the initials FC, which Kaczynski later said stood
[24:31] for Freedom Club and this ties back into his manifesto, The
[24:35] Industrial Society and Its Future, because he was
[24:38] advocating some sort of nature centered anarchism.
[24:41] He had also said in 1995 that if New York Times or the Washington
[24:46] Post published this manifesto, he would desist from terrorism.
[24:51] And he would stop sending these particular bombs.
[24:54] But anyways, eventually he was apprehended for his crimes, and
[24:59] he died not too long ago, this year, on June 10th.
[25:02] That is the story of the Unabomber in a nutshell, yes.
[25:05] And I think there is a, there's a series on Netflix, if I'm not
[25:09] mistaken, I think it's called Manhunt, the hunt for the
[25:12] Unabomber, which is quite well done.
[25:14] So yeah, that's also there, a cracking question, one which I'm
[25:18] still beating myself up. I should have gotten that
[25:21] earlier. OK, so let's go back to the
[25:25] middle of the previous century. It's a common misconception that
[25:31] mines at NASA invented it, but it's not true.
[25:34] This was actually available several years prior to NASA
[25:38] missions to space. This was poor and this
[25:41] particular product, let's call it X, was a poor and sales
[25:44] Before its association with NASA and the Manned Flight Spades
[25:47] program, the parent company used it as a marketing gimmick to
[25:51] increase ad sales and increase sales.
[25:53] And it worked. Even though it is not as famous
[25:56] as it used to be in the US, it is still highly popular in South
[25:59] America and in many parts of Asia.
[26:01] And it's a billion dollar global brand.
[26:05] Which particular brand am I talking about?
[26:06] Oh, it's a brand. It's not a special.
[26:08] It's not a generic product, no, no.
[26:11] So let me just put give you a small pressie of this question
[26:14] again. So a lot of people believe that
[26:16] people minds at NASA invented it, but it's actually not true.
[26:20] It was available even before the space missions, but its
[26:24] association with the space program was very cleverly used
[26:28] by its parent company to market it moment so that it became, you
[26:32] know, almost synonymous with the space program in many people's
[26:35] mind during that time. Talking about the Apollo space
[26:38] program post that it has. Still it's maybe not as popular
[26:41] as it used to be in the US, but in South America and many parts
[26:44] of the Middle East and Asia it is still quite popular.
[26:47] Which particular brand or product am I talking about?
[26:50] I was going to initially say Velcro, but oh great guess, but
[26:54] no. Yeah, because of the geography
[26:57] part of it threw me off. Sorry.
[26:59] Which part of the world is it still popular in?
[27:02] It's still popular quite especially in South America, but
[27:05] it's also popular in the Middle East.
[27:07] I can attest to that. It's also somewhat popular in
[27:10] India and parts of Southeast Asia and Asia.
[27:14] And I wouldn't say it's on top because there are, you know,
[27:18] homegrown competitors who give it a stiff competition.
[27:22] OK. So we'll we're looking for a
[27:23] specific brand then in this case, yes.
[27:28] Is this something famous enough I should have?
[27:30] I'm assuming I've heard of this. I'm assuming yes.
[27:33] I would say it's a very fair assumption that you've at least
[27:35] heard of it and you may even have had personal experience.
[27:40] That popular again, I was thinking of the dehydrated
[27:44] foods, but that is, I would not say that you are very far away
[27:49] if you were thinking of dehydrated foods.
[27:51] Interesting. I wouldn't say dehydrated, but
[27:54] yeah, you just keep thinking in that particular.
[27:57] No license, is it in food and beverage kind of space?
[28:03] Yes. Now let me just tell you this
[28:05] that our generation would not be particularly would not
[28:09] particularly have this association with NASA.
[28:11] It's the generation or at least the marketing of that was
[28:15] started in the 60s and I think it when we went on in the 70s.
[28:19] OK. But it's no longer uses that
[28:24] particular association for marketing.
[28:26] As far as I know above, among the older generation, lot of
[28:29] people still think of this particular product as having
[28:33] been possibly invented by NASA, being used by NASA.
[28:36] Milk powder. Ohh no.
[28:38] But very close. So close, but so far.
[28:41] Is it? Is it?
[28:44] I can't even think of the write a brand name, but I'm thinking
[28:47] something along the lines of Rasna, like an orange drink.
[28:51] Oh, oh, OK, OK. Now Rasna is the Indian one,
[28:55] which is the one that you would, which you would think of
[28:57] international. I can only think of Rasna right
[28:59] now. What is the Yeah, no, I'm
[29:04] completely blanking on what the American version of this would
[29:07] have been. Okay.
[29:08] I don't know if this is what this would be a clue, but there
[29:12] used to be a Chinese dynasty with this name.
[29:16] My Chinese You've heard of the Ming dynasty, right?
[29:19] So there used to be, yeah, no, there was there was a Ming
[29:22] dynasty. Similarly, there was another
[29:23] dynasty which has a similar. I mean, it completely
[29:26] coincidental, but yeah, they had the same name as his brand of.
[29:29] Course, we have all heard of the Chinese dynasty Ruabsa.
[29:34] I don't know that actually was going to be a question of mine,
[29:41] Ruabsa and Hamdan. No, I can't even think of Han
[29:45] Jing. I don't know.
[29:46] There are few dynasties that I know and I don't even know which
[29:48] one would fit the Billow Okay. So I think I'll give the answer
[29:52] now. You have heard of Tang of.
[29:54] Course, of course, Of course. Tang.
[29:56] Bylasty. That makes sense.
[29:58] Also, yes. Before I said Tang, yes.
[30:03] Yeah, I've had Tang myself. Yeah.
[30:04] So Tang is famous enough? Yeah, yeah.
[30:08] So this was formulated and trademarked in 1957 and became
[30:12] public, you know, available to the public in 59 because in
[30:15] those days it was cutting at technology, you know, just, you
[30:18] know, ready to mix juice. It was used by early NASA crude
[30:22] space flights in 1962, when Mercury astronaut John Glenn
[30:27] conducted eating experiments in orbit, Tang was selected for the
[30:31] menu. It was also used during some
[30:33] Gemini flights and also been carried abroad numerous space
[30:36] shuttle missions. The creator of, you know, but
[30:40] Tang, William Mitchell also is, interestingly enough, the guy
[30:43] who invented Pop Rocks, Cool Whip and Jello.
[30:48] So this. Yeah.
[30:49] So This is why this it was marketed after its use in the
[30:52] NASA space program. It was marketed as such, and a
[30:54] lot of people then got this misconception that it was
[30:57] invented by NASA, but it's not. And it's not as popular in the
[31:00] US anymore. But South America, it's hugely
[31:02] popular. Middle East, definitely.
[31:04] I know because I grew up with Tang and I don't know about
[31:08] Singapore. India, yes, it like recently or
[31:12] at least now, it's quite available in most major
[31:14] supermarkets. So yeah.
[31:16] One little question and I had no idea that there was an
[31:18] association to NASA over there, but TIL moment for the day for
[31:21] me. OK.
[31:22] And I'm going to ask you something again from the middle
[31:27] of the 20th century, I'm assuming you have heard of the
[31:32] Golden Bear Award? This is at the Berlin
[31:36] International Film Fest. This is completely, completely
[31:39] unrelated to my actual question, but just some famous winners
[31:42] are. No, no the Golden Bear is, but
[31:46] the I'm just telling you some winners just in case 12 Angry
[31:49] Men has won the Golden Bear A Separation.
[31:53] One of the movies I really like from Iran that has won Elite
[31:56] Squad. Also a movie that I personally
[31:59] love, Spirited Away. These are some famous movies
[32:02] that have won the Golden Bear award.
[32:03] OK. But coming back to the actual
[32:05] question, the Golden Bear Award was redesigned in 1960.
[32:10] There was a slight modification made in 1960.
[32:13] What was this modification? The golden bear statue.
[32:17] It was actually made to look like a bear.
[32:19] No, it already looked like a bear to begin with.
[32:22] OK, it was made golden. Maybe it was silver before and
[32:26] they decided no, after, no. Is it like a post World War Two
[32:30] thing that OK, now we have money so we'll make it gold?
[32:33] I actually I'm not sure of what material it is made or what
[32:38] material it was made, so that is not the case.
[32:42] But let me give you some description of what it looks
[32:44] like. It's it's a 20 centimeter high
[32:48] replica for bear. It is fixed onto a base where
[32:51] the winning name is engraved. The figurine consists of a
[32:54] bronze core which is then plated with a layer of gold.
[32:58] OK, yes, I do know what this is the layer of gold it was
[33:02] designed. In 1932 by the German sculptor
[33:05] Rene Sintennis of Berlin's heraldic mascot, which later
[33:11] became the symbol of the festival.
[33:13] So the bear came to importants because of that.
[33:17] Oh, Berlin's heraldic mascot was there.
[33:21] OK, I have no clue. You'll have to give me a clue.
[33:23] It was first awarded in 1951. Just by the way, is still active
[33:27] till late. Let's say this 1951 and the
[33:31] change was made when. 1960 Anything to do the space
[33:34] program. No, not to do with the space
[33:37] program, but to do with Germany's own history, recent
[33:40] history at that point or something that had already
[33:42] passed prior to 1960. Germany.
[33:46] That would be East and West Germany and Checkpoint Charlie,
[33:52] World War 2 I. Think there are only so many
[33:54] things that Germany's famous for and no, I'm I'm going to go back
[33:59] to the way my Republic. I'm going to say, I'm going to
[34:02] say when you think Germany, what did it, What did they do in the
[34:06] 20th century? The first thing that comes to
[34:08] mind is the answer. The first thing that comes to
[34:11] mind would be Oktoberfest. So what is what?
[34:16] Not what they come. OK, so we are talking.
[34:17] About what did they do? Once Upon a time, unfortunately.
[34:22] So we're talking about the Holocaust and Germany's horrific
[34:26] atrocities during the war. So it has to do with the Nazi
[34:29] history of somebody. But how did it affect the Golden
[34:33] Bear award? Any kind of Nazi imagery was
[34:37] removed from the. Yes, you're very close.
[34:39] You're very close. So when you're talking about
[34:41] Nazi imagery, the first two things that come to mind is the
[34:44] Iron Eagle and the swastika. So not specifically symbols, but
[34:49] something which would be considered a very iconic Nazi
[34:52] imagery. Did they have?
[34:54] Was it was it something else inscribed on the trophy itself,
[34:57] which turned out to be something on the gates of Auschwitz or
[35:00] Bergen Belsen? Let me let me actually make it
[35:02] slightly easier for you. They redesigned the position of
[35:04] the bear. Nazis and bears.
[35:07] I can't think of anything there. Oh wait, did it have the Heil
[35:12] Hitler salute? Was the was the bear having a
[35:15] arm raised up in the Heil Hitler salute?
[35:17] If you look at the Berlin heraldic mascot, it is a bear
[35:21] with one arm raised. In the original design, night
[35:25] arm was raised of the bear. They redesigned it to the left
[35:29] arm of the bear being raised. In 1960, they changed that
[35:33] design. Oh.
[35:35] I would say it took them ten years to do.
[35:37] That and and interestingly this was designed in 1932, but the
[35:41] first award was 1950. They could have easily done it
[35:44] before they gave the first award, also exactly.
[35:47] For some reason it took them a while, but it's OK at least late
[35:52] rather than never. I will caveat this question with
[35:55] the fact that I tried to research a lot and there was
[35:58] only one place where I found that that was the reason that
[36:00] they did the redesign. But there are no other proposed
[36:04] reasons for why they did the redesign, so I imagine that
[36:07] seems to be the most straightforward answer.
[36:10] No, no, we are we are owning this.
[36:13] This is why they change. Putting it out there in the
[36:15] world, yes. Yeah.
[36:18] OK. The.
[36:19] OK. My next question is going to go
[36:20] a little further back in history this if you are listening with
[36:25] kids, this may be the time to, you know, tell them to close
[36:30] their ears or let them go to the next room or whatever.
[36:32] But I really like this question. So some say, OK, this is
[36:36] apocryphal, let me say, I don't have primary sources for this,
[36:38] but I like this question and I choose to believe this is the
[36:41] answer. So let's go with this question
[36:43] again. Some say that X or this
[36:45] particular individual was the inventor of the world's very
[36:49] first vibrator. The legend goes that she took a
[36:53] God or in some sources its a papyrus box and had it hollowed.
[36:59] She then filled the container with live honey bees which would
[37:03] then cause it to, you know, give pleasure when placed at
[37:07] strategic locations. Which historical figure is
[37:12] supposed to have done this? Again, as I mentioned, you can
[37:16] do the more fact checking on this.
[37:18] I really love this piece of trivia, so I'm just saying this
[37:20] is true. This is going to be Cleopatra.
[37:24] Yes, it is. It is Cleopatra.
[37:26] A lot of stories about her, lot of stories.
[37:28] And this is another one. Now again, I don't know if this
[37:31] is post. You know, there are a lot of
[37:33] stories about Cleopatra which have been put out by her
[37:36] political rivals, which is, which is historically been the
[37:39] case for a lot of powerful women.
[37:41] You know, the whole story about Catherine the Great and the.
[37:44] Yes, of course. The stallion.
[37:45] Yes. Yeah.
[37:46] Yeah. So.
[37:48] So it might be true, but I I would like to believe that she
[37:50] was liberated enough to have thought, like, you know, I want
[37:54] to be in charge of my own. Pleasure.
[37:56] Why not? Why not?
[37:57] Yes, more power to clear. That right.
[38:00] So, yeah, so that's, I think we have that's all the time we have
[38:06] for today for our regular programming.
[38:10] Aditya, what's your question? Okay.
[38:13] So my question pertains to your fantastic question, Vineet,
[38:17] which was about Tang and how there was a misassociation to
[38:22] NASA, but in fact it has other origins and I want to bring it
[38:29] back home and I want to ask what is it that in my own made of
[38:33] history? Is wrongly associated to India's
[38:37] space missions, but instead was not invented there and has come
[38:42] from our other sources. And this is a food item that I
[38:47] will reveal in the next episode. Fair enough.
[38:50] So as you may all may remember, I had asked a question at the
[38:54] beginning of this episode and I be giving the answer to that
[38:57] now. So as I mentioned, the question
[38:59] again was circumstellar habitable zones is a range of
[39:03] orbits around the star within which a planet can support life
[39:07] given life and liquid water given the appropriate
[39:09] atmospheric temperature. To be precise, is habitable
[39:13] habitable zone has to have just the right temperature.
[39:16] Earth and Kepler 186 F are some planets found to lie in these
[39:20] orbits. What other name do Chz's or
[39:24] circumstellar habitable zones go by?
[39:27] Or what are they more famously known?
[39:29] Aditya. Do you have an answer?
[39:30] I have a fairly good idea that you may know.
[39:33] This I do. I do.
[39:34] I do know this answer and interestingly enough, there are
[39:37] these these these things that you sometimes read online and
[39:40] you realize how false they are. So OK, let me get started with
[39:43] the answer. I believe the answer is
[39:44] Goldilocks zone. Yes, gold lock zone where the
[39:47] temperature is not too hot, not too cold, just right.
[39:51] There was this little and again I don't want.
[39:54] I don't mean to make this a debate about theology or
[39:57] anything like that. I'm not here to take a stance on
[39:59] it. But I just remember reading this
[40:00] I thought was hilarious where somebody said that if the earth
[40:04] was only a few inches further away from the sun, a few inches
[40:09] closer earth would not be able to support water and life as as
[40:14] we know it today. And there was this little
[40:18] comment on it which says said. You do know the Earth's orbit is
[40:21] an ellipse rate, so it goes massively out and inside that
[40:26] little radius that you mentioned, so there's not a few
[40:29] inches that you are. Talking about, yeah, but yes,
[40:32] Goldilocks zone is not measured in inches, but I imagine.
[40:36] Inches. Yeah, it is millions of
[40:37] kilometers. But yeah, that is a very
[40:39] interesting name for a very interesting phenomenon.
[40:43] That's a cool question. Yes.
[40:46] So as I mentioned, that's all for this episode.
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