# Episode 133 - Chemistry, Cinema & Churchill

An episode of [Are You Quizzing Me?](https://invisiblenetwork.ai/podcast/1663104901), 11 Mar 2026, 1 h 10 min.

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Do you know why a village on the Swedish island of Resarö, in the Stockholm archipelago, is extremely famous among chemists? Do you know who played Superman in the first ever adaptation of the character in Hindi cinema? Do you know which famous historical figure claimed that he could 'pass an examination on the works of H G Wells'? Tune in to the episode to find out!! You can reach us at Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/areyouquizzingme/ Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/areyouquizzingme Email: areyouquizzingme@gmail.com Subreddit: https://www.reddit.com/r/areyouquizzingme Youtube: https://www.youtube.com/@areyouquizzingme/podcasts

## Transcript

[0:00] College 1, located in Oxford, was founded in 1341 by the
[0:06] chaplain of Philippa of Henot, who was the wife of King Edward.
[0:11] The second College 2, located in Cambridge, was founded by
[0:16] Margaret Arwanju in 1448 and refounded by Elizabeth Woodwill
[0:23] in 1465. Which two colleges am I talking
[0:27] about and how does college 2 differ from college one in its
[0:33] name? This is the original audience
[0:37] question for this week's episode.
[0:39] Give the music. Welcome to RU quizzing meet.
[0:43] I am Vineet Nair with my Co host Aditya Kashyap.
[0:46] This is a quizzing trivia podcast show.
[0:49] Join us as we dive deep into history, science, pop culture
[0:54] and so much more. Let's get quizzing.
[0:57] Welcome people, to Are you quizzing me?
[0:59] This is episode #133 So at the beginning and prior to the
[1:05] musical sting, you heard the audience question, the original
[1:08] audience question, which I will answer at the end of today's
[1:10] episode. But before we get to our regular
[1:12] round of quizzing, that is a small matter of the question
[1:15] that Aditya had asked. The audience question, Parder,
[1:19] as I'd like to call it. So Aditya, why don't you reveal
[1:22] the answer and the name of the person who answered it first on
[1:26] social media? All right, so here's the
[1:29] audience question, Junior. There's a visual question, so if
[1:34] you haven't seen it yet, go check it out on our Instagram
[1:37] page and it should be on our edit as well.
[1:40] The image is of two very high stacks of paper in the middle of
[1:45] what looks like a dense forest, some sort of a jungle.
[1:48] And on top of this is seated a man, and he's holding something
[1:54] in his hand. The question was, who is this
[1:56] person and why was this picture taken?
[1:59] The answer to this is drum roll. I don't know why I did that.
[2:05] All right. The answer to this is.
[2:08] I'll put in. I'll edit in an actual drum
[2:09] roll. It is a picture of a young Bill
[2:17] Gates and in his hand he holds ACD, a compact disk that the
[2:23] idea was to show with the huge stack of paper the amount of
[2:27] information that can be stored in one CD, minimizing the amount
[2:32] of space that you need to store information.
[2:34] And I thought that was very creative and interesting way of
[2:38] physicalizing something which is well, today we perhaps in 2026,
[2:43] understand it very easily. But back in the 90s, it was such
[2:47] a new concept, CD was so new that to truly wrap your head
[2:52] around how much information was on that small circular disk was
[2:57] mind boggling. And this was a lovely way of
[2:59] showing it. So great marketing campaign.
[3:02] Bill Gates was the man in the picture and he's holding the CD
[3:06] in his hand showing how much data can be stored.
[3:09] Go check it out. If you haven't, Go check out the
[3:10] original image also. It's fun.
[3:12] I think he shared it on his Instagram a while, though.
[3:15] The man is off social media for good reasons now.
[3:18] But yeah, acknowledging his contributions to the software
[3:22] field. Yeah.
[3:23] And the person who answered this the first on our Instagram page
[3:26] was Gautam. So thank you, Gautam for taking
[3:29] the time out and and responding to our audience question,
[3:33] Junior. So I just like to add a small
[3:36] footnote to that to the Gen. Z's and Gen.
[3:38] Alphas. ACD or a compact disc was a an
[3:44] optical data storage platform which I think first released in
[3:49] Japan in the early 1980s and was around till the mid 2000s.
[3:53] We used to carry them around in CD cases and CD albums.
[3:57] So it may be something that you've never seen, but it was a
[4:01] big part of our. Lives I would like to also
[4:04] expand upon any future generations that are listening.
[4:07] A paper was something we made from tree barks.
[4:14] With that out of the way, I believe it's my turn to start
[4:17] off today's round of quizzing. You are keeping track.
[4:19] You are keeping track. I like it.
[4:22] Yes, yes, yes. At the time of this recording,
[4:26] the US and Israel are still battering Iran.
[4:30] We don't know what the case would be when this episode
[4:33] releases, but there is a question that has slightly
[4:38] inspired by what's going on. So I'm going to read you an
[4:43] excerpt from a 1924 article titled Shall We All Commit
[4:50] Suicide? Let me repeat it is an article
[4:54] from 1924 and the Except Goes quote.
[4:58] Could not explosives, even of the existing type, be guided
[5:03] automatically in flying machines by wireless or other rays
[5:09] without a human pilot in ceaseless procession over a
[5:13] hostile city, arsenal, camp or dockyard?
[5:17] End Quote. These are the words of someone
[5:19] who claimed that he could pass an examination on the works of
[5:24] AG Wells. Who wrote these words and what
[5:29] present day menace did he imagine at that time?
[5:33] You said 1984. 19/24/24. Dystopia just goes 1984.
[5:40] The description of whatever he was describing sounded kind of
[5:44] like a drone or like a homing missile I guess.
[5:49] So I don't those things, but I would go drone I guess.
[5:52] Yes, it's drone warfare. He was basically suggesting
[5:54] drone warfare, right? So who was this huge fan of it?
[5:58] D Wells, who speculated on this way back in 1924.
[6:04] I think Isaac Asimov is is a contemporary.
[6:07] If I'm not from so is it Azimov? No, the Isaac Azimov is not a
[6:11] contemporary. 1920s is too early for Azimov.
[6:14] Azimov is in 40s and 50s and then later on 50s.
[6:16] Onwards, I think, OK, this is not Azimov.
[6:19] OK, some fan. Is it some world leader?
[6:23] Yes. Because my my instinct was to go
[6:26] with something like 1920s should be something more Indian.
[6:33] I am going to say Subhash Chandra Bose.
[6:36] No. Give me a hint then.
[6:37] I'll give you a clear hint. It's not somebody Indian, OK,
[6:41] not. Indian could still be American,
[6:45] not Churchill, right? A very young Churchill.
[6:48] It is a very young church. I was about to give you the next
[6:52] clue who it was going to be that this person was the second
[6:56] leften Lieutenant in the fourth Queens own hazards in 1895
[7:00] graduated from Sandhurst saw active combat in British India
[7:04] and in Sudan. The second Boer War as a soldier
[7:07] and a war correspondent and he famously escaped capture and you
[7:11] know, became famous that way. And then he was also the first
[7:14] Lord of the Admiralty among the Gallipoli controversy and all of
[7:18] that in 1950. So that was going to be my clue.
[7:21] But yes, this is Winston Churchill.
[7:24] In September 1924, Winston Churchill published an essay
[7:28] titled Shall We All Commit Suicide?
[7:30] In Nash's Pall Mall magazine. Reflecting on the unprecedented
[7:34] devastation of World War 1, Churchill speculated on the
[7:37] terrifying future of military technology.
[7:40] In the essay, he accurately predicted the advent of unmanned
[7:44] combat, aerial vehicles, or drone warfare.
[7:48] Churchill was a massive fan of science fiction, particularly
[7:51] the writings of HG Wells, whose concepts deeply influenced
[7:54] Churchill's own scientific imagination and political
[7:57] rhetoric. The two men met in 19-O2 and
[8:00] maintained A lifeline correspondence until Wells death
[8:03] in 1946. Churchill was such an avid
[8:06] reader of Wells futuristic and dystopian literature that in
[8:09] 1931 he famously boasted that he could pass an exam on AG.
[8:14] Wells collected works so very well.
[8:18] Correct, but I thought it was very patient considering the
[8:21] fact that the US is now using drones, Suicide drones in Iran
[8:26] ironically modelled after Iranian manufactured drones.
[8:30] So. I mean, I believe both sides
[8:32] are. I think Iran is also using it.
[8:34] I know people. I know family right now in the
[8:37] Middle East. And yeah, it's a pretty tense
[8:39] situation. So I hope a better judgement
[8:43] prevails on all sides. And yeah, no innocent lives are
[8:46] lost. I think you're overestimating
[8:49] the people in charge here. Better judgement anyways.
[8:54] All right. So that that my next question is
[8:59] such a direct segue that I am kind of, yeah, surprised at
[9:07] that, but I'll give you the segue in a bit.
[9:10] Mr. Ali was born in a small village of Balachot in Punjab in
[9:15] 1897. He is credited with quite a few
[9:20] things, but most important contribution that he gave to
[9:24] today's World Introduced society was an acronym.
[9:28] Do you know what acronym was coined by him in 1933 in a
[9:34] pamphlet Now or Never? So a Mr. Ali born in 1897 coined
[9:41] an acronym in the 1930s in a paper called Now or Never
[9:46] Correct. So who is this Mr. Ali?
[9:49] Well, you can tell me what the acronym is even if you don't
[9:52] fully know his name. Or if you know his name, that'll
[9:54] be yeah, bonus points to you. So there was a question I had
[9:59] lined up for our Reddit page, which I'd obviously be now
[10:02] skipping because it was supposed to be a visual connect.
[10:06] It was going to have a radar screen, OK.
[10:09] It was going to have the picture of a TARDIS, OK.
[10:13] And it was also going to have the map of Pakistan.
[10:16] OK. And I think I was looking to put
[10:18] one more thing and the connect was going to be that these are
[10:21] all acronyms that people don't know about.
[10:26] Lovely. OK, So given the time frame, and
[10:30] I think you're talking about Rehmat Ali, is this Pakistan
[10:35] that we're talking about? Is the acronym that you're
[10:37] looking for Pakistan? Absolutely.
[10:40] Well correct. Chaudhary Rehmat Ali is the man
[10:42] in question and he was born, like I said, in a small village
[10:46] in then Punjab. I believe that part, that
[10:48] village would now be in Pakistan.
[10:51] And he studied in in Lahore and at some point in Jalandhar as
[10:56] well. And yes, when he was much older,
[11:00] as an adult in 1933, he first published A pamphlet called Now
[11:05] or Never. And kind of reminds me of that
[11:07] Churchill code that you just gave because the name of the
[11:10] entire thing is Now or Never. Are we to live or perish
[11:13] forever? Oh yeah, OK.
[11:15] Painfully, sort of how they say history rhymes.
[11:19] So 1924 that that code and 1933 this particular pamphlet.
[11:23] And in that he first suggested or first coined the term
[11:27] Pakistan. I think he spelled it PAKSTAN
[11:30] and I'm going to quote him. It is composed of letters taken
[11:34] from the names of all our homelands, Indian and Asian,
[11:38] Punjab, Afghania, Kashmir, Sindh and then the last part of
[11:44] Baluchistan. So that would make Paks and then
[11:48] PA in Pakistan. Of course I think he also
[11:53] understood and appreciated the fact that park in Urdu and I
[11:56] think believe Arabic also or at least Persian and Urdu.
[12:00] It means pure right? Like they say Quran a park or
[12:03] Bay park or whatever. Pakistan would be land of the
[12:06] pure. Yeah, So it would also stand
[12:07] being land, so Pakistan, but also as an acronym.
[12:11] And I always assumed it as a park, the pure meaning of it.
[12:15] But the etymology comes from this particular acronym, from a
[12:19] very specific pamphlet that was written by Chaudhary Rehmat Ali.
[12:24] He is in fact regarded as one of the people who initiated that
[12:27] movement. So whatever your feelings are
[12:30] about the state of affairs between India and Pakistan and
[12:33] the fact that there was a brutal partition, well, this man was in
[12:38] some ways an early architect of it.
[12:41] And unfortunately or well, whatever your emotions are about
[12:45] this, he came back to Pakistan in April 1948 and he wanted to
[12:51] stay in the country. He had moved to England before
[12:53] that but he came back in April 1948.
[12:55] But his belongings were confiscated and he was expelled
[12:58] by Prime Minister Ryakat Ali Khan in October 1948.
[13:03] Ali left empty handed. He died on 3rd February 1951 in
[13:06] Cambridge and quotes destitute, forlorn and lonely, so I've not
[13:12] gotten into the history of it. I don't know why he had this
[13:14] kind of relationship with Liyaqat Ali Khan, but yeah, a
[13:17] man met with a very desperate ending and definitely not what
[13:22] he would have imagined in the country that he at least laid
[13:25] the very seats for in some ways. Considering Pakistan history,
[13:29] I'm not very surprised. And the fun fact, if I'm not
[13:32] mistaken, Jinnah originally did not like the name Pakistan.
[13:37] It was only after, I think in the 1940 Lahore conference, I
[13:42] think it was the 1940 or something, there was a
[13:44] conference in which the this thing was adopted, like the
[13:47] Pakistan resolution was adopted. It was at that point that, you
[13:50] know, there was a consensus and people kind of voted for this
[13:54] thing. I don't remember the exact
[13:55] thing, but I do remember reading that Jinnah was not in favor of
[13:58] the new Pakistan when it first came out.
[14:00] It was only years later that, you know, it was adopted.
[14:03] Yeah, the Wikipedia which literally says that these ideas
[14:07] were dismissed as student ideas quote particularly by Muhammad
[14:10] Ali Jinnah. But by 1914, the Muslim
[14:12] politician in the subcontinent came around to accepting them,
[14:15] leading to the Lahore Resolution of the All Indian Muslim League,
[14:17] which was immediately dubbed the Pakistan Resolution in the
[14:20] press. Very nice, very nice.
[14:22] I have lost a Reddit question. So redditors, you can blame him.
[14:27] OK, so let's go from Pakistan, which is in South Asia all the
[14:31] way to Europe. OK, Now I know this question is
[14:35] going to be a little hard for you to directly guess because
[14:37] it's either a you know it or you don't know it.
[14:40] But hopefully I can guide you towards the answer or even if
[14:43] not, this is just to look again reiterating question this trivia
[14:48] delivery mechanisms and this is a fantastic piece of trivia, so
[14:51] bear with. Me best kind of questions, yes.
[14:54] X is a village on Rizzaro Island, Waxholm Municipality,
[15:00] Stockholm Archipelago, Sweden. X literally means outer village
[15:05] in Swedish. This is all I'm going to tell
[15:07] you about this place that there is a village on Rizzaro Island
[15:12] in the Stockholm archipelago in Sweden.
[15:14] It means outer village. I need you to tell me why this
[15:18] village is famous among the scientific community and
[15:24] chemists in particular. And if you can tell me the name
[15:27] of the village, Fantastic. Stockholm and science, Some
[15:33] Nobel Prize comes to mind. Is this where the Nobel Prize is
[15:37] centered or something? In No, this is not centered
[15:40] around the Nobel. Prizes.
[15:41] No. OK, Stockholm Science Nobel
[15:44] Prize. That's it.
[15:45] Where my brain draws a blank. OK, I am sure there have been
[15:48] famous chemists from there, but again, I think they all just
[15:52] blurred together for me as just European fellows.
[15:56] I can't particularly pinpoint who is Swedish.
[15:59] No, I wouldn't expect you to know the scientist or anything.
[16:02] It's just that something is very famous.
[16:05] This place is very famous for something, at least among the
[16:09] scientific community and especially among chemists,
[16:12] chemistry researchers at least, and those who know the history
[16:14] of chemistry, They are like they instantly recognize the name.
[16:18] And frankly speaking, if I told you the name, you may, you may
[16:21] also recognize it a little bit, but I'm not going to hold you to
[16:24] it because I don't know how much you like chemistry.
[16:28] Out of the sciences, I think I was the weakest at chemistry,
[16:31] though I also was very intrigued by the fact that like around
[16:34] 10th grade, 11th grade chemistry and physics kind of blurred
[16:37] lines. Like it just felt like they were
[16:38] they were similar, at least at some concept, some levels, like
[16:43] you were reading about. Now for me it is maths and
[16:45] physics. Maths and physics kind of blur.
[16:48] Maths was the language of physics but OK, they are getting
[16:51] getting distracted. Mendeleev is Russian so that is
[16:56] also not the right way. But you said not a scientist.
[16:59] But something chemistry related, yeah, it's not a people related
[17:03] thing, it's a phenomenon. It's like, OK, I'm going to give
[17:06] you a clue. Let me try.
[17:08] It's a very random guess, but like is it one of the first
[17:11] visualizations of the periodic table is there or something like
[17:14] that? No, but you are.
[17:15] You are at the right ballpark when you think of periodic
[17:17] table. And again, you said chemistry
[17:19] because otherwise I would have said physics with the unit
[17:22] measurements. I don't know where it is kept.
[17:23] Like, you know, there is this place where they used to keep
[17:26] and now, oh, that's Paris. I think it was Paris because
[17:28] their size also French. And anyways, I don't think they
[17:31] have those physical measurements anymore anyways.
[17:35] Or rather, it's not defined by the physical measurements
[17:37] anymore. It's not.
[17:38] It's not. Well, give me some other end.
[17:40] There are two clues. I'll give you the indirect clue
[17:42] 1st and the direct clue if you're not able to get there.
[17:45] So Stockholm in Sweden, at least in Sweden, in this particular
[17:49] village is where certain things were discovered.
[17:54] And currently, even though it was discovered in Sweden, Sweden
[17:58] is no longer the place where you get most of it.
[18:01] It is China. China is known for its rare
[18:04] earth metals. That's the biggest thing over
[18:07] there. OK, so you've gotten one end of
[18:10] the string. Now try tugging on it.
[18:13] So rare earth? What else?
[18:15] So is it a specific air, Earth, Metal?
[18:17] Again. So that's part of the answer.
[18:19] So you'll have to tell me why this village is now famous.
[18:22] I've already given you part of the answer when I gave you the
[18:25] clue. As in you said that it was first
[18:27] discovered in this place, so where a lot of rare earth metals
[18:30] is. Found here.
[18:31] Yes. So, so just refine the answer
[18:33] and you're there. Just refine the answer.
[18:35] Very. Pun.
[18:38] They they kind of synthesized or or they isolated those elements.
[18:44] No, no, there are. This is a very remote village.
[18:46] It's not like it's got a big scientific center.
[18:48] It's not Caltech or anything, right?
[18:50] But why is this place famous? You're almost there.
[18:54] There are lot of places around the world where elements have
[18:57] been discovered, right? But why is this place?
[18:59] Famous are some elements named after this place.
[19:02] A lot of elements are named after these places also, right?
[19:05] So I'm assuming. OK, I will give it to you.
[19:08] Even though you're not completely there, I will give it
[19:09] to you because this is a fantastic place.
[19:11] So this village name is Iterby. OK YTTERBY Iterby.
[19:17] It is chemistry's most element rich village.
[19:22] OK, Iterby, as I mentioned, is a village in Sweden.
[19:25] This tiny suburb gained global fame for its 18th and 19th
[19:30] century mine, which yielded something called as Iterbyte,
[19:34] which you also known as Gadolinite.
[19:36] OK. Eterbe's gadolinite mine yielded
[19:39] samples that led to the discovery of nine elements
[19:45] total. Wow. 9 elements, four of which
[19:49] were directly named for the village.
[19:53] Nice. OK, here are the elements which
[19:55] are named for it. Atrium atomic number 39.
[19:58] Yeah, of course. Named after the village Eterbe
[20:01] Terbium. Also named after Iterbi.
[20:05] That's atomic number 65 for those keeping count.
[20:07] Erbium named after Iterbi, atomic number 68 uterbium,
[20:14] Atomic number 70, also named after the village Uterbi.
[20:18] Apart from these, they also found Holmium, atomic number 67,
[20:23] which was named after Stockholm, Julium, which is named after
[20:27] tool and ancient Scandinavia, atomic number 69, Scandium,
[20:32] atomic number 21 which is named after Scandinavia, Gadolium,
[20:37] which was named after John Johann Gadolin, who was the
[20:40] first scientist to analyze the atrium, and tantalum, which was
[20:44] atomic number 73, which was also from the Itru tantalite mineral
[20:48] at Italy. So all the elements from between
[20:51] 64 to 70 and 21 and 73 were discovered in one village and
[20:57] four elements are named after this one place.
[21:01] That's sheer insanity. Wow, I'm surprised I didn't know
[21:05] this. I mean, I've heard of some of
[21:06] these elements, I've not heard of all of them, and I definitely
[21:08] didn't know the etymology, but that's so insane that all of
[21:10] them are from the same place. Wow.
[21:12] Yeah, and I've never connected that Yttrium, terbium, erbium
[21:16] and ytterbium are all exactly named after the same place.
[21:19] Exactly. We all remember Francium and
[21:22] Californium and all. Those is that but something of
[21:25] the America also, right? I think there is one American I
[21:28] think yeah. Wow.
[21:31] This is it will be which is the most element rich village in
[21:35] chem the history of chemistry. Well, as one element might have
[21:39] led them to another, I'm going to ask you 2 part or where the
[21:43] first question will lead you to the second.
[21:47] Oh, I hate these two-part questions.
[21:49] Yeah. I get stuck at the first one and
[21:51] then we never get around to the second journal.
[21:54] Haroon Rashid is an Indian film director.
[21:57] On 30th September 2010, he released his film One Shot Fear
[22:02] Without Cut. What does this movie hold a
[22:06] Guinness Book of World Record for?
[22:07] Varun Rashid's one shot Fear without cut.
[22:12] Going by the name, I would think something of a single shot
[22:18] movie, like a single uninterrupted shot.
[22:20] Perfect, that was. That was meant to be a quick
[22:22] question. You did absolutely perfectly
[22:26] well as expected. theguinnessworldrecords.com
[22:29] cites it as the longest uncut film is 1 short Fear Without Cut
[22:34] which is a running time of three hour 28 minutes 4 seconds
[22:37] excluding opening and end credits.
[22:39] And this is directed by Harun Rashid from India and was filmed
[22:42] on location in Mumbai, India. And it was released on 30th
[22:45] September 2010 or oh sorry my bad.
[22:48] It has filmed on 30th September 2010.
[22:50] It went on to release in 2014. Again, it has to be filmed on a
[22:54] single day because it is one take right?
[22:57] So it has filmed on that day. The rehearsals must have been
[22:59] brutal. Or the movie might be bad, I
[23:02] don't know. It might be good on this, I have
[23:05] no idea. I have not seen the film.
[23:07] Hopefully it's great, but at least it holds this particular
[23:09] record, right? Three hours, 28 minutes, 4
[23:11] seconds. Honestly, as somebody who who
[23:15] does work in adjacent industries, even a 3 minute long
[23:19] shot uninterrupted can be absolutely a nightmare to shoot.
[23:24] So I can't even imagine what 3 or 28 minutes must have been
[23:26] like. All right, you got that very
[23:29] quickly. The question now is the longest
[23:32] continuous or uncut movie was shot in Mumbai.
[23:37] Who holds or which TV show holds the Guinness Book of World
[23:41] Record for the longest continuous camera shot?
[23:45] Which TV show holds the record for the longest continuous
[23:49] camera shot? It's basically.
[23:50] The same thing, right? Like the movie was shot in one
[23:53] continuous shot. I'm asking you the same record
[23:55] but for TV show. So it's it's a one shot, it's a
[23:59] single shot. I believe the entire episode was
[24:02] one shot, but maybe it had some post credit M credit stuff that
[24:05] I'm not too sure of, but yeah. OK, I does it involve tire
[24:12] breaking down doors? Oh man, that is so quick.
[24:17] I was going to give you a breaking down door hint, but
[24:21] yes. So this is, I'm guessing the Cid
[24:26] Cid has an episode of this thing.
[24:28] I've read this somewhere. The thing is, I've never read it
[24:31] anywhere, or at least it has never come up in all the trivia
[24:34] that I go by. I actually went and.
[24:35] Googled it. No, there there a.
[24:37] Couple of weeks ago. I think there was an article in
[24:39] the Telegraph or the Mint or one of those things, so.
[24:43] I'd, I'd never read it because I, I mean, it just didn't come
[24:47] across it in my interview search all the time.
[24:49] So I went and specifically googled it.
[24:50] And I'll tell you why I googled it because I had a memory of
[24:54] watching this as a child of watching this entire thing.
[24:57] Ah, I can, I think still remember shots from this
[25:00] particular episode. And I've seen a bunch of CD
[25:02] episodes, but this episode stands out because I think they
[25:05] had done some promos for it, like, oh, this big episode, big
[25:08] deal is going to happen whenever it did.
[25:10] And yeah, it was it was something that I remember
[25:13] looking forward to watching with my family.
[25:15] And even at that age when I probably didn't understand too
[25:19] much about filmmaking, this was when I was 12 years old.
[25:22] I was still blown away by the thing that was on TV in front of
[25:27] me. And I don't know why it is not
[25:30] as popular as well known. Well, you clearly knew it, but I
[25:33] don't think a lot of people do know this.
[25:34] So CID Iconic, arguably the most iconic in the language TV show,
[25:43] is the record holder for the longest continuous camera shot
[25:48] in a TV show. Vineet.
[25:50] Guess how long that shot was? Two hours or something, right?
[25:53] It was. Close to two hours, it was 111
[25:55] minutes. And this was the one long take
[25:59] that they did. I, now that a villain bombed,
[26:01] have been around here for a while.
[26:02] I think it must have been shot in Film City and if I'm not
[26:05] wrong, in in one of the places that I've seen also, because it
[26:08] was this abandoned hotel or building or something like that.
[26:12] They shot it in. And I remember the murder
[26:14] mystery was that somebody was killed and then two hours later
[26:16] or 1 1/2 or later, whenever they solved the crime and it was all
[26:20] shot in one take. I remember the camera tracking
[26:22] them outside, going back in, going into the different rooms
[26:24] that genuinely have a very clear visual memory of this episode.
[26:27] That's how striking it was. And yeah, in case you didn't
[26:30] know, unlike Vineet, who knows everything, in case you didn't
[26:34] know, 111 minutes is a world record for it.
[26:38] And CID holds it. This was back in 2004.
[26:42] So this was like, adolescence ain't got shit on CID.
[26:48] Adolescence was like 60 minute episodes, right?
[26:50] Single shots. And I'm pretty sure adolescence
[26:52] is has some hidden cuts in between where I remember
[26:55] watching it and being like, I think there were hidden cuts.
[26:57] There were hidden cuts here and there.
[26:59] I mean, Raj and DK do such a great job in their TV shows and
[27:02] their web series with those, those continuously short action
[27:06] sequences. I think the one good part, which
[27:09] I didn't care too much for the show, but Honey Bunny, the one
[27:11] good part was those sequences. They have definitely done it in
[27:14] Family Man as well. But it it was kind of kind of
[27:16] obvious they like anytime an actor, especially during a fight
[27:20] scene, one of the actor's body moves towards the camera.
[27:22] It's almost always a cut you can kind.
[27:24] Of I remember telling you that, oh, I thought my rope is a great
[27:27] film. Those those edits are quite
[27:29] obvious to me. I think are guilty of doing the
[27:32] same thing. The one of the most beautiful
[27:35] cuts I've seen. And of course the old film is 11
[27:37] take quote UN quote is Birdman. And I remember when he runs
[27:41] outside into the Times Square and they are tracking him.
[27:45] They track and then the camera whips with pans, whatever it's
[27:49] called and it passes a puddle of water.
[27:51] And that's where the invisible edit happens.
[27:54] And just a random site trivia. Apparently he actually ran in
[27:58] the middle of Times Square in his underwear.
[28:00] And this is not a closed off set or something.
[28:02] This is the middle of people. So when you see people turning
[28:05] towards him, there's like, oh, what what is happening?
[28:08] And yeah, they they put strategically put some extras
[28:11] around there, but they obviously couldn't afford to close off the
[28:14] entire Time Square. So that was how that was short.
[28:16] But yeah, coming back to this, this is CID and it was filmed by
[28:21] director BP Singh in Mumbai in India.
[28:24] And this was filmed in 2004 and was released in 2004 as well.
[28:27] And yeah, 22 actors and production unit of 175 people.
[28:33] Must have been one hell of a day.
[28:35] I was actually going to recommend 1 Adolescence for its
[28:38] like 60 minute almost single shot episode.
[28:41] And there's also going to recommend Lijujo's Perlisheri's
[28:44] Angamali Diaries which I have recommended in the past on this
[28:47] podcast. Angamali Diaries is a very, very
[28:51] grounded gangster kind of story of youngsters in a town called
[28:56] Angamali. And the climax sequence takes
[28:59] place during the local church festival, the Feast.
[29:05] So, and they shoot this kind of, I think it's out eight to 10
[29:08] minutes or something single shot with hundreds of extras, like
[29:13] hundreds of extras. The camera pans through these.
[29:17] I mean, like it follows the characters through narrow rail
[29:19] lanes where like people are walking this way and that.
[29:22] And there are, you know, fireworks going off and people
[29:25] smoking and drinking. And then it goes into one house.
[29:28] And then there's a violent action sequence there.
[29:31] And then there's a chase through the crowd to the climax, which
[29:35] involves a very gruesome death and a lot of lot of fireworks.
[29:40] So I would definitely recommend watch Ungomary Derry.
[29:42] LJP is an author as far as I'm concerned.
[29:46] He makes some of the best movies, at least of this
[29:49] century, and Ungomary Derrys is one of his most accessible
[29:53] movies. Some of his other works are a
[29:55] little esoteric for certain people's days, but please check
[29:58] out Ungomary Derrys. Especially the single shot
[30:01] sequence of the one shorter or the one or as they call it, a
[30:04] sequence of the end. I think it's around 8 minutes.
[30:06] Fantastic movie and fantastic technical achievements.
[30:10] Sounds really cool. Yeah, OK, so I am now going to
[30:13] move from CID to another TV show.
[30:18] So all segues are working today. India's pioneering sci-fi TV
[30:23] show called Indra Dhanush beamed on Doordarshan back in a 1989.
[30:31] It introduced the concepts of cloning, time travel, space
[30:35] travel, DNA crystallization, androids and future galactic
[30:40] wars to the Indian audience. It boasted of fresh faced cast
[30:46] including Ashutosh Gowarikar, Girish Karnad, Urmila Matondkar
[30:52] and debutant X. So this was X's first acting
[30:57] job. X's follow up screen gig was in
[31:01] one of the biggest Bollywood smash hits of all time.
[31:06] So I want you to identify X. What is the timeline for this?
[31:11] 1989, Indra. Dhanush Doordasha 1989.
[31:17] I think Sunny Dell was already in the scene in the 80s.
[31:21] Yeah, he was already in the scene.
[31:23] So first acting job was in Indra Dhanush and the follow up or his
[31:28] second acting job was in one of biggest Bollywood smash hits of
[31:34] all type I. Have a very stupid answer but
[31:37] this which I'm 99% sure is wrong but I'm going to say it OK?
[31:42] Is it? And I don't want to get this
[31:46] name wrong. Is it Tuffy by Rachel?
[31:49] Oh the dog from Hamaki Haikon? What's he featured in this?
[31:54] If If it was, it would be a fantastic answer.
[31:57] Would have. Unfortunately, no, it's not
[31:59] something. Feeling this is not somebody who
[32:01] was the main cast in that blockbuster film because I I
[32:03] mean, what blogbuster films are the 90s?
[32:05] I know them and I can't think of any of them who featured
[32:09] somebody who was in this random a film in in their first acting
[32:13] job. It's no Shahrukh, it's no
[32:15] whatever Salman are, but none of them no Govinda.
[32:20] So they kick it to somebody who's playing a smaller role in
[32:24] a bigger film and hum up. Can I call because 1989?
[32:28] Like I don't know what other film after that there's 1989
[32:32] means in the 90s DDHS 1995. So this actor did not do
[32:40] anything. Did he say acting job?
[32:42] Because I know Uday Chopra was the AD on it.
[32:44] Did he say acting in? Oh no, this is an acting job.
[32:47] Both of these are acting jobs. OK, what are the films before
[32:50] DDLJ? Is that big a hit?
[32:52] Is it DLJ? Is the second acting job DDLJ?
[32:55] Yes, I'll give you that it is DDLJ.
[32:58] And I'm assuming it's about the when there are a bunch of actors
[33:01] obviously, but it's some ready I should know.
[33:03] Oh yeah, you definitely know this.
[33:04] Person Channa Puran Singh's husband, is it him?
[33:08] Who's? I'm sorry?
[33:10] Sorry. I should be knowing that.
[33:12] But I don't know Mr. Puran Singh.
[33:14] Or that's her name. Or is that her father?
[33:16] I don't know. Parmeet seti.
[33:19] Parmeet Seti. No, no, it's not Parmeet Seti.
[33:21] Oh, it's still pronouncing Is Parmeet Seti's wife.
[33:23] I did not know this, but it's not Parmeet Seti.
[33:25] Kind of embarrassing because I mean, they are very lovely
[33:28] people and I met them and sorry Mr. Seti, I forgot their name
[33:32] for a second. But your, your wife is famous
[33:36] and and is memorable for sure. So anyways, yeah, yeah, Parmeet
[33:42] Seti, is that OK? Not him.
[33:45] Who else is famous in DDLJ? Who made who has only made one
[33:50] film before 1995? Everybody else had an
[33:53] established career. Who's famous?
[33:55] Oh my God, did did did Karan Johar act in another film before
[33:59] DDLJ? Yes.
[34:01] So this is Karan Johar's first acting job.
[34:04] It is technically not a film. It was a sci-fi TV show called
[34:07] Indra Dhanush. So, Karan Johar, fantastic
[34:11] guests by the way, if Karan Johar starred in as Srikanth in
[34:15] the sci-fi serial Indradhanush Ontur Darshan alongside Ashutosh
[34:18] Kawarikar and Urmila Matondkar. It was directed by Anand
[34:23] Mahendra. The story was of a group of kids
[34:26] who assemble a computer. The computer becomes the host to
[34:30] an alien Prince from a planet in the Andromeda Galaxy who's on
[34:35] the run from his enemies. The following events take a lot
[34:39] of weird turns. One of the kids gets kidnapped
[34:42] by one of the prince's enemies. The Prince gives them a time
[34:45] travel machine. With this machine, they try to
[34:47] see their past and then rescue their friend.
[34:50] Post Indra Dhanush, Karan Johar's next acting job was as a
[34:54] with a cameo as Shaker, friend of SRK's character.
[34:58] Raj, interesting, OK. This was Karan Johar's first
[35:02] acting job in a sci-fi serial called Indra Dhanush which
[35:06] apparently had AII. Until I was researching this, I
[35:09] didn't have any idea about this particular part show, but
[35:12] apparently it's got a cult status among DD heads which I'm
[35:16] now calling fans of TV shows of Doordarshan.
[35:19] I'm calling them DD heads. I thought you said something.
[35:21] You know, DDLJ DD. These are DD heads.
[35:26] These are Doordarshan hits DD heads.
[35:29] Those guys are Algiers. No, I don't know what they are.
[35:32] Yeah, OK. It seems like we are sort of
[35:36] roaming around, rotating around, meandering around the
[35:39] subcontinent. So I'll stay there.
[35:40] I'll stay in India for my next question as well.
[35:43] OK, fit me one of the. 1st I believe unofficial.
[35:48] One of the first unofficial adaptations of the iconic
[35:53] character Superman was in India in 1960.
[35:58] Well actually let me rephrase that.
[35:59] Sorry. Oh my God, the man knows
[36:02] already. OK, let me rephrase that and
[36:04] then you can flex again. OK, well I'll change the
[36:07] question I want to ask another. Question.
[36:10] No, no, not fair. I want to ask one question that
[36:13] you don't know the answer to. Fine.
[36:15] OK, no, let's start. I've had a really off couple of
[36:18] episodes, like past few episodes I've been really off podcasts.
[36:22] Are you talking about what other podcasts are you doing secretly
[36:25] on the side because this podcast you have not had off episode.
[36:29] Please do not give me false humility on top of all your
[36:32] genius. All right?
[36:35] Ah re regarding restarting the same question for, I don't know,
[36:39] posterity sake I suppose one of the first adaptations of the
[36:45] iconic actor Superman in India and I presume it was an official
[36:49] adaptation. I'm not too sure, but it was one
[36:51] of the first adaptations of Superman in India was in 1960.
[36:56] My question is very simple, who played the character of
[37:00] Superman? And let me flex a little bit,
[37:04] yes. And the first person and I say
[37:07] person to play Superman unofficially in an Indian
[37:12] adaptation in the year 1960 was none other than Nirupa Roy.
[37:19] How how do you know this? Did you crank this so good?
[37:24] I I put this in a Bollywood quiz once I remember this.
[37:27] Man, that's insane. OK, right, right, right.
[37:29] Well this again shout out to our gins ears and and even probably
[37:35] some of the millennials. The younger millennials might
[37:37] not know or might not recognize the name Nirupa Roy but
[37:39] definitely would recognize the face of this art or Bollywood
[37:43] fans. Fans would because Nirupa Roy
[37:45] was quintessential mother to the quintessential angry young man
[37:51] and she and Amitabh Bachchan appeared in a bunch of films
[37:54] together in some of the most iconic Salim Jade films.
[37:57] Also, I believe she was the mother in Divar, the iconic mere
[38:00] past Mahai that was Nirupa Roy Damahi that was in question.
[38:06] She was also in Amar Akbar Anthony.
[38:08] She was also in Ganga Jamuna Saraswati Mukaddar ke Sikandar
[38:11] mud, all of these films that had Amitabh Bachchan.
[38:14] She, I believe in most of them played her mother.
[38:16] But in any case, she was always that motherly character and she
[38:19] and, and if you saw her, you know exactly what you're going
[38:23] to see in the film. Even if you saw her still, you
[38:24] know that she's going to be Lachar, as the Hindi word goes,
[38:28] Dukhubari. Yes, she's going to be, you
[38:31] know, the the Abla Nari and she's going to be sad and and in
[38:35] need. I think you're gonna have to
[38:37] translate that will you have to. Translate.
[38:42] I hope this is the right translation.
[38:44] I think it's just the woman who's damsel in distress, but
[38:47] not damsel refers to somebody else or a little older.
[38:50] Think of that, but a little older.
[38:52] And that's the character that she played very often.
[38:55] So you know what you got us to her for being the first person
[38:59] to play Superman, even if it was an official in in Indian cinema,
[39:03] in Indian cinema. And this was in 1960.
[39:06] And Vineet, since you already know this, yes.
[39:09] Do you also want to tell us who was the Lewis Lane equivalent in
[39:13] that film? That I don't remember because my
[39:15] question was specifically related to this and I remember
[39:20] that she played Superman with a mask.
[39:23] That much I remember. And she had a dog also.
[39:26] I think at that rate she had a dog.
[39:28] I don't remember who played the side roles.
[39:31] You'd have to forgive me, but the movie's name was obviously
[39:34] Superman and it starred Nerupa Rai.
[39:36] But her version of Superman had a mask.
[39:38] That much I remember. You'd have to.
[39:40] It was a very phantom like mask. So it was something of a
[39:43] combination of these iconic characters.
[39:46] At this the director was RL Suri.
[39:48] Not very familiar with the rest of his filmography.
[39:51] And yes, you're right, she had a super dog.
[39:53] She also had a super horse. There we go.
[39:57] Quite the lady. And she was bad.
[40:01] Opposite. I believe the woman who was
[40:04] playing whatever the Louis Lane equivalent character would be
[40:08] was played by Helen. Yeah.
[40:12] So I don't know if it was an extended role or not, but these
[40:14] are the two names in the cast that I recognize.
[40:17] IMDb also does not list what Helens character was, but she's
[40:21] the only other woman read so again, I don't.
[40:23] I'm not saying that Nirupara and Ellen were romantically LinkedIn
[40:28] this movie. I have not seen that.
[40:29] I have no idea. Oh.
[40:30] It would have been very progressive.
[40:31] Yeah, man, if it was the case, then hats off to Mr. Suri for
[40:36] doing that. But in any case the but.
[40:39] I don't think it was. Well, I guess until until is one
[40:42] of us bother watching it, we are not.
[40:45] So it was Nirupara and Ellen I'm.
[40:47] I'm I'm going to be Aditya for the next two seconds or at least
[40:50] 10 seconds. So you could say that Nirupa Roy
[40:55] went from being Superman to Super Ma.
[41:01] I've never shown you my pajamas, dear listeners, but it deserves
[41:06] a standing salute. That was such a good my God,
[41:10] Vineet you have. Oh, sorry, I don't even know if
[41:13] they're watching this because I don't know if they're releasing
[41:15] this video. But yes, I'm standing up and I
[41:17] have given Vineet the highest salute that he very well
[41:23] deserved. That and super ma.
[41:25] Oof. Oh, Sir, well done.
[41:29] You have won this episode. All right.
[41:31] Not that it's important anymore, but do you have any more
[41:33] questions for me? So I do have a one more
[41:36] question. This organization operates on a
[41:40] distinctly unconventional financial philosophy.
[41:45] It does not use any internal credit system.
[41:49] Daytoday business is settled strictly in cash.
[41:53] Ayments are made daily. The only exception involves the
[41:58] rocurement of raw materials from external suppliers.
[42:02] At the branch level, Profits and losses are not individualized,
[42:06] but shared equally among all the members working at that
[42:10] location. In fact, during the
[42:12] organization's early years, earnings from the first six
[42:15] months were distributed evenly to every member not in cash, but
[42:22] in gold. The principle of shared reward
[42:25] continues even today. What has changed is the format.
[42:30] Each branch now independently decides whether the profits will
[42:34] be distributed in gold or in cash.
[42:38] So I want you to tell me which organization I am talking about.
[42:42] Sounds like a cooperative yes? The most famous one I think, at
[42:46] least for me, it would be Amul. No, this is this is this sounds
[42:50] like a smaller operation than Amul.
[42:53] I don't know, maybe like if you're looking at the revenue
[42:55] wise, as of 2019, this had around 1600 crore revenue.
[43:02] Holy hell. What?
[43:04] OK. Yeah, yeah.
[43:05] And just to put it into context, Amul had 90,000 crores.
[43:12] So Amul is much much bigger, but still.
[43:14] Pretty big company. Not, not a nobody.
[43:17] There's also the difference that Amul has around 1000 employees
[43:21] and 3.6 milk producers. 3.6 million milk producers.
[43:25] These people have 45,000 employees.
[43:29] You first said 3.6 million produce 3.6 million, not the
[43:34] fact that you fumble that this is the metal limit of 3.6 milk
[43:38] producers for that one guy just runs away after three fifth of
[43:44] the day. Oh, I'm not cutting this out.
[43:48] I'm keeping this in the episode. I'm big producers.
[43:51] It's not even a guy. Oh yeah, it's.
[43:53] It's actually a guy, not a guy. Like there are 4.
[43:56] Cows there and then one of the cows, it's like from Dartmouth.
[44:01] I am staying till 6:00 PM. I'm out at 3:30 PM.
[44:05] I'm only a .6 producer. OK, this is so dumb.
[44:09] Alright, the other famous cooperative that I can think of,
[44:14] Legit. Legit.
[44:16] Hang on, it is the Sri Mahila Griha Udyog legit papad.
[44:22] What did you choose the revenue in 2019?
[44:23] 1600 crores I was. Thrown off by that.
[44:26] I was like, oh, that can be lizard papad.
[44:28] Oh my God, that's a lot of money. 1600 crores.
[44:32] So again it's a big mouthful. Sri Mahila griha Uduke Legit
[44:36] papad commonly known as legit papad is a woman LED cooperative
[44:40] model that emphasizes radical financial transparency and
[44:46] equity. Has empowered over 45,000
[44:49] members, 7 Gujarati homemakers, Chabi Devi Tolani, Parvati Ben
[44:54] Ramdas Todani, Ujam Ben Narandas, Kundalia Banu Ben N
[45:00] Tana, Lagu Ben Amritlal Gokani Jaya Ben V Vithalani and Diwali
[45:08] Ben Luka. They started the organization in
[45:10] a Mumbai chawl with just ₹80. On the first day, they made 4
[45:16] packets of papad and sold them for 6.17 rupees.
[45:20] Today it stands as 1600 crore empire.
[45:23] It produces 3 point 5,00,000 kilograms of papad daily across
[45:29] 82 branches and 10 divisions. Exports to 41 countries,
[45:34] Guinness recognized it in 1994 as the largest manufacturer of
[45:38] papad in the world. It settles all the all it's
[45:41] operations in cash on a daily basis and members received their
[45:46] vanai or peace rate payment of rupees 14 to 18K per kilogram of
[45:51] papad on the same day. The only exception to this no
[45:54] credit rule, it involves the central procurement of raw
[45:57] materials like Uradan Mongar at the branch level which consists
[46:01] of women members only. Net profits and losses divide
[46:05] equally after expenses and all accounts remain open for every
[46:10] member to inspect in the early days.
[46:12] The profits in the first six months of 1959 were shared
[46:15] equally among the 28 members in the form of gold sovereigns by
[46:20] Diwali 1960. The practice of sharing profits
[46:24] in gold continues at the branch level today.
[46:26] Though each branch now votes to decide between gold coins of
[46:30] sovereigns and cash, The organization operates on a
[46:33] consensus model where any single members dissent can halt a
[46:36] decision. Men serve only as salaried
[46:40] sahayogis or helpers, and the production process uses no
[46:44] machinery. Wow, that's insane.
[46:47] It's quite the remarkable feat and well, a solid salute to the
[46:53] ladies as well and the women who started it, the women who
[46:56] continue it and the women who will keep growing it too.
[46:58] Hey, you know what? Monday Cross Amul also maybe,
[47:00] who knows? All right, I am going to talk
[47:03] about no segue here. Well, disappointed in myself,
[47:08] but I'm going to talk about Hadi William Ledbetter.
[47:12] Hadi William Ledbetter was known by his stage name Leadbelly,
[47:16] spelled LEAD Leadbelly, and he was an American folk and Blues
[47:20] singer, notable for his strong vocals, virtuosity on the 12th
[47:24] string guitar, and the folk standards he introduced,
[47:27] including his renditions of some very famous songs.
[47:30] One of the songs is called Scotsborough Boys, in which he
[47:35] tells the story of nine black teenagers and young men falsely
[47:39] accused of raping 2 white women in Alabama in 1931.
[47:44] Unfortunately, it's been happening for so many decades,
[47:47] centuries that that black people in America have faced
[47:51] persecution. And yeah, this happened in 1931.
[47:55] And he wrote a song about this. Leadbelly wrote a song about it.
[47:59] What did he use? What phrase did he use in this
[48:03] song that has gained a lot of popularity, lot of momentum?
[48:08] In a similar sentiment, I would say through the decades and
[48:12] especially in the last decade or so.
[48:15] What phrase did he use in the song?
[48:16] Scottsboro Boys. Ledbetter introduced the phrase
[48:20] in Scottsboro Boys, which was about 9 kids who were falsely
[48:25] accused of rape threat, and that phrase resonates even today.
[48:30] It is still in use and well, as you can tell that Scottsboro
[48:34] Boys was, let's say, a social justice song, right?
[48:37] It was talking about making society better, making society
[48:39] more fairer. And that's, I would say in a
[48:43] similar vein, that phrase is still used.
[48:46] That word is rather still used phrase a word.
[48:49] Does this have anything to do with To Kill a Mockingbird?
[48:54] No. The novel.
[48:56] I have no idea what that connection.
[48:58] I don't know if there is any connection.
[48:59] I don't think there is. OK, no.
[49:00] Atticus Pinch was no, no, so it's fine.
[49:03] OK. I need some of the context to
[49:06] clue like how is it related? Is it with the Black Lives
[49:09] Matter protest or how is it connected?
[49:13] So like I said, this has unfortunately happened over the
[49:16] years so many times that that black people have come out on
[49:19] the road to protest the brutality that is committed
[49:21] against them in in the United States of America.
[49:25] It has been used this particular word.
[49:27] Let's call it a word. It is used a phrase also, but
[49:30] let's call it a word. This word has been used since
[49:33] the 1930s. One of the first few iconic
[49:37] uses, one of the first documented uses of it is in this
[49:39] particular song that he used it. And it has gained perhaps more
[49:47] of a life, more of more legs, more momentum since the Black
[49:50] Lives Matter protests, which started in 2014, the Ferguson
[49:54] protests. And yeah, it has, it has grown
[49:58] to be something that has life of its own that perhaps has also
[50:03] been used as a negative connotation also.
[50:06] You would assume that there's something positive, but it's
[50:08] been used in negative connotation as well.
[50:10] So yeah, that's the current context of it.
[50:14] Other things both. Positive and negative context
[50:16] you sent rates it. It has basically it it has had a
[50:22] positive context for the longest time.
[50:23] And now it's been used almost as like a a way to fight back
[50:27] against that growing wave of let's say liberalism.
[50:31] I don't, I don't know what other.
[50:33] Please don't go by my user or incorrect user terminology as it
[50:37] might be the case, but yeah. I can't breathe.
[50:40] And all that was from his last word.
[50:41] It's not nothing to do with the song.
[50:43] I can't read those George Floyd, and that was not in 2014, so.
[50:47] Yeah, yeah, George Floyd, something about that is OK.
[50:49] Again, does it have a pop culture connection?
[50:51] Is it like a time to kill or something like that from it's
[50:55] obviously been? Used in pop culture, but that
[50:58] that is not how you and I would primarily associate it.
[51:01] Nope, I leave it through. All right, cool.
[51:04] So just to one second clarify, I'll give you a clue as well,
[51:07] but just one second clarify that it had gained momentum or had it
[51:12] started being used since the 30s?
[51:15] It kind of got a political connotation around the Sixties,
[51:17] 70s and in the 20 tens, which is what I said in the last 10-15
[51:21] years, in the 20 tens, it became very popular, very prevalent.
[51:26] It's it's just part of literally regular day usage.
[51:29] I'm sure it's, it's in all the dictionaries and everything as
[51:33] well, right? And it's primarily been
[51:36] associated by Black Lives Matter in the last five or six years.
[51:39] It has been used to push back against those people who are
[51:42] using it. So it has been kind of used back
[51:45] at them in a pejorative way. That's the current context.
[51:49] All right, now I'm going to give you as a clue the quote from the
[51:55] 1938 song, right, which was of about 9 black is the
[52:00] Scotsborough boys. So it's actually not part of the
[52:03] song as much as it is a spoken afterward in the recording of
[52:06] the song, in the 1938 recording of the song, OK.
[52:10] And he says, Leadbelly says, I advise everybody be a little
[52:15] careful when they go along through here and here being
[52:19] Hotspro, I advise everybody be a little careful when going along
[52:23] through here, Dash and there you have to fill in the blank.
[52:27] It's a pretty long sentence, a long phrase.
[52:29] Then that phrase is important. But the specific keyword in that
[52:33] is what is in question right now.
[52:35] I'm completely blanking here. I have no context closed for
[52:38] this. Can't think of any specific
[52:41] phrase. You know, a lot of phrases and
[52:44] things came up during BLM and the other movements.
[52:48] OK, but I'm assuming you're familiar with Childish Gambino?
[52:52] Yes. Amazingly talented person.
[52:56] Yes, Donald Glover. Yeah, I prefer his community
[53:02] better than his music career, frankly speaking.
[53:04] Oh. I I love his music but Oh my God
[53:06] he's so funny in community when he left community that show
[53:09] truly truly massive drop. Anyways so Childish Gambino.
[53:14] I like some of his songs. Childish Gambino's 2016 song
[53:17] Redbone is where it was used more in the modern sense of the
[53:21] word or rather in in the modern uses.
[53:24] Like I said, in the 20 tens, it has gained more modern context
[53:27] and if you're aware of that song.
[53:30] Honesty I am not a big fan of his music, it's just not my
[53:34] taste in music and the only song of his that I can remember is
[53:38] This is America. So Redbone is not something I
[53:41] could have said. I have heard so is.
[53:45] Not very useful. Well, let's bring it home then,
[53:47] as we are done with a lot of the questions so far.
[53:49] The same word is used as a pejorative by the Hindutva
[53:53] activists and the Hindu nationalists to refer to the
[53:57] critics of the Hindu nationalist ideology.
[53:59] And it's it's something that is used across the world.
[54:01] By the way, the lot of people have first started using it for
[54:04] social justice and then used it as a push back against social
[54:07] justice in a pejorative. Way.
[54:08] Only word I can think of that way, but it doesn't make up.
[54:12] Again, I'm maybe I've not heard it much in the Indian discourse,
[54:16] so I don't think I'm right. But the only word that you can
[54:20] avoid or at least this thing would be woke.
[54:23] But I'm not sure that that's being used in the Indian
[54:26] discourse much. At least I haven't seen it much.
[54:28] Well, yeah, like I said, it's probably not the most popular
[54:30] words. My next hint was going to be if
[54:33] I didn't know what it's true meaning was, I would tell you
[54:35] that at in a late night recordings, you need to stay.
[54:42] Well, yeah, that is exactly the word that was in.
[54:46] Seriously. Well, I said if I didn't know
[54:49] what the meaning was. So I'll tell you what the quote
[54:51] was from the song, a 1938 recording where he said, I
[54:55] advise everybody be a little careful when they go along
[54:58] through here. Scots bro, best stay woke.
[55:02] Keep their eyes open. Oh, Steve Woke is from this 1938
[55:08] recording of the song Scottsboro Boys by a very famous singer, a
[55:13] very famous black singer, Leadbelly and Steve Woke, which
[55:18] I, I have heard a lot of people say, oh, woke is such a Gen.
[55:21] Z slang. And yes, it became adopted in
[55:24] the lingua franca, I guess much more recently.
[55:28] But it was part of the black communities, you know, English
[55:33] for a very long time. It was there language.
[55:35] It was their way of speaking for the longest time.
[55:37] And then it got adapted into the mainstream in the 20 tense.
[55:40] So when people say that it's a very millennial thing or not
[55:43] even millennial, it's a more Gen.
[55:44] Z thing to say woke. It's actually almost 100 year
[55:48] old phrasing. And yeah, it has only gained
[55:51] popularity recently. Wow.
[55:53] But it is from this very specific song that this idea of
[55:56] stay woke came to be Being awakening or waking up in a
[56:00] political context has been used before that.
[56:02] But stay woke. One of the O first recorded
[56:05] usages is in this articular song.
[56:08] But I think in the song he meant like, you have to beware Kee,
[56:12] your eyes open. Yeah, exactly.
[56:13] So stay woke is like stay awake or stay beware or be careful in
[56:19] in, but that court used as like a stay woke as like be aware,
[56:23] right? So that's what it is used as
[56:25] now. You have to be aware, you have
[56:26] to be woke. You have to be aware of the
[56:28] injustices that are happening and that's how you will achieve
[56:30] social justice. And of course it's been used
[56:32] pejoratively. You're right, not very commonly
[56:34] in India, but in some contexts you might hear it.
[56:37] Definitely in the US it's pretty was now used in a pejorative
[56:41] sense. I don't think anybody is using
[56:43] it in a very positive sense anymore.
[56:45] So yeah, that's where Stay Woop comes from.
[56:48] I was surprised. I I completely assumed that it's
[56:50] Gen. Z millennial slang.
[56:52] It's a very old black community slang I guess.
[56:57] OK. And that's all the time we have
[56:59] for our regular round of phasing.
[57:00] Let me go back to the original audience question that I asked
[57:04] in the beginning of the question.
[57:05] So Aditya, this is a very easily crackable, easily guessable
[57:10] answers. So I'm going to give the
[57:12] question again so see if you can track it.
[57:14] Hopefully some of the people listening have already have.
[57:17] College 1, located in Oxford, was founded in 1341 by the
[57:22] chaplain of Philippa of Hinault, who was the wife of King Edward
[57:27] the Third. OK College 2, located in
[57:30] Cambridge, was founded by Margaret of Andrew in 1448.
[57:35] She was wife of Henry the 6th and refounded by Elizabeth
[57:39] Woodwill in 1465. She was the wife of Edward the
[57:42] 4th. What is the difference between
[57:46] the names of College 1 and College 2?
[57:48] They're practically identical. There's only one small
[57:50] difference, and the answer is already in the question that I
[57:53] have mentioned, so let's see if you can guess it.
[57:56] It's been. More than a decade or has it
[57:59] been almost 2 decades now? It's been a very long time since
[58:01] I filled out my Oxbridge application and was rejected,
[58:07] resoundingly so. I remember going to the list of
[58:13] the Oxford colleges and I have forgotten most of the names.
[58:18] I do remember the famous ones, but none of them seem to fit.
[58:22] OK, very simple. The first college, the one in
[58:24] Oxford, was founded by the chap chaplain of the wife of King
[58:29] Edward. The third college, 2 was founded
[58:31] by the wife of Henry the 6th, and then refounded by the wife
[58:35] of Edward the 4th. I've simplified the question.
[58:39] So what would be the name of the two colleges?
[58:41] What were the two colleges named?
[58:42] What in Oxford, one in Cambridge?
[58:44] There's only a tiny difference in names.
[58:46] So if it's because you said the wife of the King Henry, I would
[58:50] say is it the I remember this was one of the college, Queen's
[58:52] College. Very good.
[58:54] So what's the difference between Queens College and Oxford and
[58:57] Queens College in Cambridge? Apart from the fact that they're
[59:00] in different universities, I don't get it.
[59:01] Like as in they're just in different universities, right?
[59:03] What's the difference in the name?
[59:05] There's a Oh, there's a difference.
[59:06] In the name also OK, OK Oh, Queens, There's no apostrophe in
[59:11] the Cambridge one. No.
[59:12] OK, so there is an apostrophe in both of them.
[59:15] One apostrophe is before the S The one in Oxford is Queens
[59:19] College Queens apostrophe and the other one is called Queens
[59:23] in College because there were two Queens involved in it
[59:25] founded lovely that so college to the one in Cambridge.
[59:30] That's Queens's college because it was founded by 1 queen and
[59:34] then refounded by another queen. So there were two Queens
[59:36] involved. The College in Oxford had only 1
[59:39] queen involved, so the one in Oxford is called Queen
[59:42] Apostrophe S College and the other one is Queens's College
[59:44] that is Queens Apostrophe College.
[59:48] So because there are two Queens involved, so that's Queens
[59:51] College and Queens College and that's it.
[59:53] Beautiful. Very nice, very well cracked.
[59:55] So Aditya, why don't you give the question for next week or
[59:59] the audience question Part 2? All right, OK, this question
[1:00:03] should be an easy 1, I believe, but just to make it a little
[1:00:07] harder, I'm going to blank out the faces in the image when I
[1:00:11] posted on Instagram and on Reddit and here I'm describing
[1:00:15] it to our listeners who might not look at it.
[1:00:17] So I would encourage you to go look at it, but in case you
[1:00:20] haven't, but you can hear it here, this is an image of a
[1:00:25] bunch of men standing at a pavement and a shorter person
[1:00:29] with them. I believe it's a woman.
[1:00:31] There's a bunch of men standing at a pavement and they seem to
[1:00:33] be waiting for something to cross the road.
[1:00:37] And the question is, what is this?
[1:00:40] An image of what was happening here on this day?
[1:00:46] I haven't mentioned one day, but what is happening here on this
[1:00:48] day? A few men standing on side of
[1:00:50] the road, woman presumably standing right next to them, and
[1:00:54] they look like they're just straightening up.
[1:00:57] They're making sure that their clothes are in place and they
[1:01:01] are looking to see if there's something crossing the road.
[1:01:05] That is the image and the question is what's happening
[1:01:07] here? Yes, and the question will be
[1:01:09] put up on both our Reddit and our Instagram accounts.
[1:01:14] So go check it out and the first person to answer correctly will
[1:01:18] be shouted out by shouted out by give it a shout out shout out
[1:01:23] shout out shout out it shout out it by Aditya.
[1:01:27] OK all at Aditya 28. Let's now move on to the last
[1:01:32] thing we do before every episode closing is what's your pop
[1:01:36] culture recommendation? OK, I.
[1:01:39] Was just now watching a movie fit starred Mads Mickelson.
[1:01:45] Mads Mickelson I've always messed up his name.
[1:01:48] Mads Mickelson Mads Mickelson who's a Danish actor.
[1:01:52] Phenomenal actor. Most people might remember him
[1:01:54] as the bleeding eye guy from Casino Royale.
[1:01:59] He has had a terrific career. That was perhaps his first
[1:02:02] prominent role in Hollywood, but he's been an actor for a very
[1:02:05] long time. I want to recommend a few films
[1:02:08] where this guy, the movie that I was just watching, I haven't
[1:02:10] finished it so I'm not gonna recommend it yet, But some of
[1:02:13] the other films that I've seen of his that I think are
[1:02:15] phenomenon worth checking out. There is the 2012 film The Hut.
[1:02:20] I. Am at lots of words is how to
[1:02:22] describe it it it just speaks to so many things speaks to so many
[1:02:27] anxieties and it's in 2012, but I think it resonates till date
[1:02:31] in 2026 so decade and a half later.
[1:02:34] It is about a teacher who's teaches in kindergarten and it
[1:02:40] lives in a very small community and the kind of drama that
[1:02:45] ensues, the kind of anxieties that that plague the small
[1:02:50] community and the consequences of small actions, of small
[1:02:53] choice and how they kind of snowball.
[1:02:56] That's what this film focuses on.
[1:02:58] The Hunt. Definitely worth your time.
[1:03:01] Absolutely, absolutely recommended.
[1:03:03] Another film that I recommend is Another Round.
[1:03:06] This is, I think, based off of a real incident, so it is partly
[1:03:12] fictional, partly nonfictional, and I might have recommended in
[1:03:15] the past in this podcast. I don't know.
[1:03:17] But in case I haven't, here's a recommendation for Another
[1:03:20] Round. Don't tell you too much about
[1:03:22] it. Again, he plays a teacher, but
[1:03:24] this while it is much lighter than the hunt, I would say it
[1:03:30] has dark moments as well. But for the majority of the
[1:03:33] film, it it it is definitely, you know, more fun note and it
[1:03:37] ends with one of the best movie endings that I was in.
[1:03:41] The last scene in this film is just pure unbridled joy.
[1:03:45] So you're guaranteed that you're going to end it on a nice note.
[1:03:48] And Matt Wilson is the one in that scene in that last scene of
[1:03:52] the movie. I generally think it has to be
[1:03:55] top five best movie endings ever.
[1:03:58] Love it and me if you like it as well.
[1:04:00] And the last thing I'd recommend is the show Hannibal.
[1:04:04] I think the first few seasons were good.
[1:04:05] I think it didn't do as well in the final season if I'm not
[1:04:09] wrong and going to sound so problematic.
[1:04:12] And if you are a vegetarian or a vegan person, my apologies.
[1:04:16] But the food cooking's actually what I apologize to even the
[1:04:19] mediators. Course it's not like I am
[1:04:21] assuming cannibals aren't listening to it, but Animal
[1:04:24] obviously plays a cannibal character in it and he cooks
[1:04:29] human beings. But the food scenes I have this
[1:04:33] is a guilty pleasure. I have gone and looked at just
[1:04:36] the yes, super cut of the food scenes, even though in my head I
[1:04:40] know in the story it is supposed to be human beings being eaten,
[1:04:43] which is very dark, but it's so beautifully short.
[1:04:46] It is absolutely beautifully short.
[1:04:47] So props to the prop director of this show.
[1:04:52] Very, very well done. I loved it.
[1:04:54] These three great piece of work that you should check out with
[1:04:58] star Mads Nicholson. And well, I'm watching a movie.
[1:05:01] If that turns out to be good, I'll tell you in the next
[1:05:02] episode. OK great.
[1:05:06] I have already recommended one movie in the podcast which is
[1:05:10] Angamali Dairies by Little J Spellicherry.
[1:05:13] Go definitely watch it. It's one of the more
[1:05:16] unconventional gangs gang film, gangster films that you will
[1:05:19] find and it's a really good and again, it's also very similar to
[1:05:22] the fact that it's also foodies movie because food is a big part
[1:05:26] of the framing of the movie itself.
[1:05:29] The opening credits itself shows a lot of food.
[1:05:32] It shows because food is intrinsically linked to the
[1:05:35] culture of the town Angamali. So it's that there.
[1:05:38] So definitely check out Angamali Dairies.
[1:05:40] I would now also recommend a Telugu movie that I watched
[1:05:43] recently, a Telugu horror movie, low budget movie called Masuda.
[1:05:48] It came out in 2022 but I caught it only recently on streaming
[1:05:52] and I really enjoyed it. It's not like one of the top
[1:05:55] tier horror horror movies, but it's a solid horror flicks.
[1:05:58] Like something slightly different in the protagonist
[1:06:01] success. So go try and catch Masuda.
[1:06:04] And I always try to. And I always enjoy introducing
[1:06:07] something to people. I'm almost always sure that they
[1:06:09] haven't heard. So, Aditya, have you heard of
[1:06:12] the Touareg of the car? No, no.
[1:06:16] So the Touareg are a nomadic people from Sahara, from the
[1:06:21] Sahara Desert. They're ethnically Berber
[1:06:24] people. They used to be called the Blue
[1:06:25] Men because they used to wear indigo.
[1:06:28] I know this. I know this, yeah.
[1:06:30] Yes, yes. So they used to, their clothes
[1:06:32] were dyed with indigo, which would drop off on their skin,
[1:06:36] and they used to be called the Blue Man basically.
[1:06:39] So that's also where the Volkswagen Touareg gets its name
[1:06:41] from, from the Touareg, right. What I'm actually recommending
[1:06:45] is I recently came to know that there is a subculture of music
[1:06:50] called Touareg music or desert Blues.
[1:06:54] So it mixes Berber rhythms with guitars and kind of thing.
[1:06:59] And I really want to recommend this.
[1:07:01] The band called Tinariwen and another one called Tami Crist
[1:07:05] Tinariwen is a great entry pointed to this.
[1:07:08] I would definitely I encourage you to check it out.
[1:07:10] They are available on Spotify and it's really, really good
[1:07:14] songs. I mean, like some of the songs,
[1:07:16] it's very difficult for even me to pronounce the names.
[1:07:18] Just listen to them. It transports you completely.
[1:07:22] It's become a part of my playlist on my daily 2 hour
[1:07:26] commute back and forth from work.
[1:07:27] So check out Tinari when and if you get time.
[1:07:30] And there are other bands some, there's another one called
[1:07:32] Bombino. There's another one called Tammy
[1:07:34] Crest. So check out any of those.
[1:07:36] Perfect. That's good.
[1:07:37] I'm glad you did a music recommendation.
[1:07:39] We haven't had that in a while. You know what?
[1:07:40] Next episode I'm gonna remind me, Vineet.
[1:07:42] I'm gonna do a music recommendation.
[1:07:43] I'm gonna do a few music recommendations.
[1:07:45] I don't. I'm not as much of A listener as
[1:07:47] you are, but whatever little bit I listen I'll recommend.
[1:07:50] For me, podcast and music listening is more of a survival
[1:07:53] mechanism rather than anything else because I spend a minimum
[1:07:57] of two hours driving. Music and podcasts are what keep
[1:08:01] me sane on these drives, so I do consume a lot of.
[1:08:05] It work from home, baby, Work from home.
[1:08:08] Well, not sort of. I do go perform outside, but I'm
[1:08:11] not without office crowd. I'm usually going out in the
[1:08:13] evening. So yeah.
[1:08:15] That's all the time we have for this week's episode.
[1:08:17] Thank you all for listening in. Hope you enjoyed the show.
[1:08:20] Please reach out to us on our socials, which are available in
[1:08:24] the episode description. We do post quizzes on Reddit as
[1:08:29] well as Sunday quizzes on Instagram, so you can
[1:08:32] participate there. If you want questions that you
[1:08:35] have to be asked on the show, please e-mail us at
[1:08:38] areyouquizzing@gmail.com. And that's all the housekeeping
[1:08:42] I have to do for the end of this episode.
[1:08:44] Aditya, I'm going to let you do the sign off because I have been
[1:08:48] hijacking and I've been told that your new catch phrase is
[1:08:52] painful for many people to hear. So no more digging.
[1:08:56] You can go ahead with your usual thing.
[1:08:58] I will dig. Them up from wherever they're
[1:09:01] hiding because if they don't appreciate such a good catch
[1:09:04] phrase, they don't deserve now. I'm kidding.
[1:09:06] You guys are right. It sucks.
[1:09:08] It's literally painful. Dude, I'm literally giving it to
[1:09:11] you. Take it back.
[1:09:12] Take it back. I'm going to come up with the
[1:09:14] take back. You take it.
[1:09:15] I'll see you guys next week and eat with a knife and fork.
[1:09:19] No, I'm going to come up with something else, all right?
[1:09:33] There's a knife and poker head in front of me that's.

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