# Episode 101 - Bullet, Budget & British Chemist

An episode of [Are You Quizzing Me?](https://invisiblenetwork.ai/podcast/1663104901), 12 May 2025, 56 min.

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Do you know who was called in to find the bullet that had mortally wounded American President Garfield in an assassination attempt? Do you know what were the qualifying criteria for the "Dream Budget" of 1997? Do you know why did the British chemist and astronaut Helen Sharman gain the nickname "The Girl from Mars"? Tune in to find out!! You can reach us at Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/areyouquizzingme/ Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/areyouquizzingme Email: areyouquizzingme@gmail.com Subreddit: https://www.reddit.com/r/areyouquizzingme Youtube: https://www.youtube.com/@areyouquizzingme/podcasts

## Transcript

[0:00] Welcome to our you, quizzing me. I am vineet Nair with my
[0:04] co-host, Aditya kashyap. This is a quizzing trivia
[0:07] podcast show. Join us as we dive deep into
[0:10] History Science pop culture, and so much more.
[0:14] Let's get quizzing. And we're back for episode
[0:19] number one. Oh, one of our you, quizzing me.
[0:23] Your favorite. Quizzing and trivia podcast show
[0:25] data. And I are back after a break and
[0:29] involuntary one, but still it's a break.
[0:31] And we're back to go for the next set of 100 episodes.
[0:35] And let's start off today's episode again with the audience
[0:39] question. So I have had a little bit of
[0:41] feedback that most of the time. Our questions are very
[0:44] convoluted very intelligent and we don't ask very
[0:48] straightforward GK questions anymore.
[0:50] So I'm going to Endeavor to include a few of those in our
[0:53] quizzing and mostly this will be audience questions.
[0:55] So I will start off today is 101st episode with this very
[0:59] straightforward JK question, which is the most populated
[1:03] desert in the world and I repeat, which is the most
[1:07] popular desert in the world. I will answer this question at
[1:11] the end of today's episode. Let's start with our regular
[1:15] round of quizzing with Aditya Aditya.
[1:19] Have you been good? 100 episodes.
[1:21] So maybe this was a break unintended but well deserved one
[1:25] And on that note, I have a question for you.
[1:28] Oh nice. This has to do with a
[1:31] professional cricket league. In the UK played in a certain
[1:34] format that is very unique. It is organized by the England
[1:38] and Wales Cricket Board, and it's played between July and
[1:41] August each year. It is one of the four main
[1:44] tournaments organized by ECB the England and Wales Cricket Board.
[1:49] The other three are the county Championship one day cup and T20
[1:53] blast. Those three formats should be
[1:55] very familiar County, one day international and T20.
[1:59] So what you have to tell me is what is unique about the fourth
[2:01] League. The one in question, What unique
[2:04] format do? They employ?
[2:06] Okay. Off the bat.
[2:10] I'm tempted to say something like it's A League of Their Own,
[2:15] but I'm not going to say League of Their Own and off the bat.
[2:22] Yes, thank you. Thank you so much.
[2:24] The second thing I'm tempted to say is this like a leak for
[2:30] blind people or something? I don't know.
[2:33] Is there such thing as blind Cricket?
[2:34] Yup. There is a format called Blind
[2:37] Cricket. Yeah.
[2:39] If you have seen the movie srikanth, which came out last
[2:41] year, starting in rajkummar Rao, he played a blind man who plays
[2:46] blind Cricket in that. Based off of a true story.
[2:49] Okay, I did, I did not watch that movie.
[2:52] I know which more I know the movie you're talking about but
[2:56] Okay, yeah so blind Cricket does exist but not the format in
[2:59] question here. Okay, let me tell you a little
[3:01] bit more about the rules of this format and that might lead you
[3:03] to the name of the format and what's unique about it, okay?
[3:07] Most of the regular rules of cricket apply.
[3:10] There are some minor differences.
[3:12] Firstly, there are two innings each lasting normally 65
[3:16] minutes. Separated by a 15-minute
[3:18] interval. Okay.
[3:21] So rather short duration for an Innings as compared to every
[3:24] other format of cricket. Yeah, quite short.
[3:27] A bowler won or to overs at a go.
[3:32] Okay side, the switched after every two overseas.
[3:36] Okay. Another big difference is that a
[3:39] no Ball results in two runs for the batting team and a free hit?
[3:43] Okay. so there are total of 20 overs, and then there is some
[3:48] minor differences here and there in rules, but do you want to try
[3:51] and guess what is Very unique about this format of cricket.
[3:55] I'm not so sure, because first of all, I'm not a sports person
[3:59] in any sense of the word, but 20, I mean, this is the sounds a
[4:08] lot like T20, but with some restrictions, I don't know, is
[4:12] this a T10? But you already mentioned 20
[4:15] overs. Yeah, so then it doesn't make
[4:17] sense either. Yep.
[4:18] Yeah, 20 overs, but remember I said slightly shorter than an
[4:22] average T20 match. Yes, yes.
[4:25] So maybe that's your hint. What would make it?
[4:27] A short-term match if it is still 20 overs?
[4:32] Oh the number of balls per hour. Very good.
[4:35] Do you want to be a little bit more specific?
[4:36] How many balls per over? I'm gonna go with three because
[4:41] I have no clue and I'm just guessing that we way too short.
[4:44] It's actually five balls in over which should make the total
[4:47] number of balls in an Innings 100 A hundred.
[4:50] Exactly. And I wanted to ask this
[4:53] question last episode for 100 episode but it last episode.
[4:58] So I thought, why not included This Time, It's a Wonderful
[5:01] piece of trivia any case. Okay?
[5:03] 100. It's literally called the
[5:06] hundred. Okay.
[5:08] And that's the fourth league organized by the English and
[5:11] Wales Cricket Board. The idea is to keep it short and
[5:13] snappy it was developed as a competition to the T20 format.
[5:17] Okay it has been in action since 2021 and is still ongoing And
[5:23] that's the format, the hundred. Is there a TV show also of the
[5:28] same name? I think there was a TV show
[5:30] called the 100K. That was a great question and
[5:37] got start. I'm going to start off the 101st
[5:42] episode with a question which speaks to my sense of humor.
[5:48] Aditya, this is a listicle. I'm going to list out a few
[5:52] things. Okay?
[5:53] And I need you to tell me what these are or what?
[5:58] Connects them. Okay, let's hear it.
[6:01] I wouldn't need you to be Uber specific, but at least, if
[6:05] you're in the ballpark, I'll give it to you.
[6:07] Are you ready? Hit me, bow, ding dong, you and
[6:15] Tata. What are these?
[6:18] Do you want me to repeat the question?
[6:20] It would be a sin to only allow you to do it once.
[6:23] So please. Yes.
[6:24] Bow. Ding dong you and Tata.
[6:33] Okay. All right I'm gonna start with
[6:36] the most obvious. One Bow, Wow, I know Pow.
[6:40] Wow. Is an argument or a discussion?
[6:41] Yeah, I think it's a Native American in origin.
[6:45] If my Disney serves me, right, I think Peter Pan had an entire
[6:50] racist. Depiction of the American
[6:52] Indians. Oh yeah.
[6:54] Eat with the power. Okay, but I'm guessing that's a
[6:57] completely unnecessary tangent. So coming back to Bow.
[7:00] Wow. I was thinking animals sounds
[7:03] but Tata that doesn't sound like an animal sound at all.
[7:07] Hmm. Well you have a very innocent
[7:09] mind. Should I be thinking more adult
[7:12] content? No.
[7:13] No. Because if I like, if you'd give
[7:16] me this question, the moment I hear ding dong and Tata in the
[7:19] same list? My mind would have got it.
[7:22] No, I was actually much closer to the lines of onomatopoeia
[7:28] Automotive here. Yes sir, what near where I'm
[7:32] going, but I need a like I said, I need you to be somewhere in
[7:35] the ballpark. Okay, so for anybody who doesn't
[7:38] know, number two for us to the idea that things that named
[7:41] after the sound of the object, it refers to.
[7:46] Yes. Very interestingly put like a
[7:50] cow moose because a moose was like a move.
[7:52] Oh yeah. I'm all sound like a movie
[7:54] definitely. Oh yeah.
[7:56] That was just to disprove anybody.
[7:59] Whoever has accused me of being smart because of this podcast.
[8:02] Okay, so something to do with words and sounds, hmm.
[8:07] Okay, is it something like the first sounds children?
[8:10] Usually make. know, there are more scientific like I said this
[8:16] speaks to my sense of humor, as well as to the kind of trivia, I
[8:21] like, Okay, so you do like etymologies.
[8:24] So I'm wondering if this has something to do with the
[8:26] etymology of a phonetic sounds. We have a very close, you're
[8:34] very close, but you just need to distance yourself and think of
[8:40] The science of linguistics. Let me put it this way.
[8:42] The signs of linguistics. Okay, so is it I already said
[8:47] that, so maybe not the first sounds a baby makes, but the
[8:51] first sound Proto language has oh, like, basically how language
[8:56] develops yes. Okay, you got it that.
[8:59] Okay, so these are dear audience as are.
[9:02] The has quite rightly guessed are Max muellers list of
[9:07] speculative, theories concerning the origins of spoken language.
[9:12] Oh Oh yeah, yeah, even though they sound ridiculously childish
[9:17] and slightly filthy to fill the minds like mine.
[9:20] These are all actual theories of the development of spoken
[9:25] language in the Mists of prehistory.
[9:27] So you have Bow Wow which is also known as the cuckoo Theory,
[9:31] which Mueller attributed to German philosopher Johann
[9:35] Gottfried herder and he saw that early words, as imitations of
[9:39] the cries of beasts and birds. Hence Bow.
[9:43] Wow, The Who Theory saw that the first words as emotional
[9:48] injector interjections and exclamation triggered by pain.
[9:52] Pleasure, surprise, Etc. So here is like, okay, so we
[9:55] developed language from emotional interjections, right?
[9:57] So when somebody kind of pokes you go out the people which came
[10:04] from that the ding dong theory states, that all things have a
[10:07] vibrating natural residents somehow, echoed by humans in
[10:12] their earliest words This is I don't think it's a very
[10:16] plausible but then again, it's Theory.
[10:18] The yo language or Theory claims that a language emerged from
[10:24] Collective rhythmic labor. and that is the attempt to
[10:28] synchronize muscular efforts resulting, in sounds such as
[10:31] heave alternating with sounds such as whole so he, oh, or if
[10:38] you've seen Anna Kournikova or Serena Williams play tennis, you
[10:43] know what we mean? Hmm.
[10:44] Yes. And finally, the Tata Theory did
[10:49] not actually feature in Max mirrorless list but was proposed
[10:53] in 1930 by search Richard Paget. According to this Theory, humans
[10:57] made the earliest words by tongue movements that mimicked
[11:01] manual gestures rendering them audible.
[11:04] So this very serious branch of linguistics as a series of
[11:07] theories which are all very childishly named Bow.
[11:11] Wow, ding dong yo-yo and Tata. Can you repeat the second last
[11:18] one more time, please. Yo he oh perfect.
[11:22] I'm just gonna save that audio clip and make it my notification
[11:27] sound for whenever we have to record podcast. so, Fun
[11:38] question. I should read up a little bit
[11:39] more on this because etymology is a shared interest for both of
[11:42] us. And that brings me to my next
[11:44] question. Okay, A friend mentioned, a
[11:47] really cool piece of etymology to me recently, and I love that
[11:51] because when people know that you make a podcast about trivia,
[11:54] they just hand you trivia and very often.
[11:57] It's very useful. So if you know Vinita me
[12:00] personally, please feel free to share with us in person.
[12:04] I mean, you can always send it to us online as well, but hey,
[12:06] in person is great, too. And my friend, when he shared
[12:10] this piece of etymological trivia with me, he had this very
[12:12] smug face, like, hey, go ahead and use it, which is also kind
[12:15] of funny, like nobody owns trivia.
[12:17] So thanks to that friend, who wished to be anonymous.
[12:23] Okay, so this etymology has to do with food.
[12:26] Okay, and since I know you're a foodie, I think you'll crack
[12:30] this in a jiffy. I speak of a certain Seafood.
[12:36] okay, there are two specific theories as to where the name
[12:40] for this food item comes from The first is that it is the
[12:44] anglicized version of the local name of the fish. so, if in the
[12:50] local language you were saying, Here is Dash the translation of
[12:54] here is Dash. The anglicized version of that
[12:58] phrase would be the name of that Seafood.
[13:03] Okay, it's a fish as you mentioned I think yep, see food
[13:07] item specifically a type of fish.
[13:09] Okay. So just to clarify, here is Dash
[13:13] in the local language. When that is, anglicized you get
[13:17] the possible origin or etymology of the word, okay?
[13:21] So that's the first Theory, the second and the more interesting
[13:26] theory is this Seafood was delivered VIA Rail by trains
[13:32] from the Port City to the other more Inland cities and this form
[13:38] of transportation is under the source of the etymology.
[13:44] Specifically by real networks used to transport.
[13:48] Post. Or letters.
[13:52] Can you guess what Seafood item I am talking about.
[13:56] My first and only guess which comes to mind is Bombay duck.
[14:00] Oof too good, too good. That was just Sublime.
[14:05] The train gave it away. Yeah.
[14:08] That was actually, the reason I wanted to ask this question
[14:10] because it's called Bombay dark. I'm not, yeah.
[14:14] So Bombay duck is actually a very famous Seafood item from
[14:17] Maharashtra from Mumbai, in fact, and whenever somebody
[14:20] living more Inland in Maharashtra, wanted it, it would
[14:23] be transferred over mail or dark as it is called in Hindi which
[14:28] was wired trains. And sometimes because of the
[14:31] delay in delivery, it would give it a strong Ascent which is
[14:34] Iconic for Bombay duck and that's how presumably Bombay
[14:38] dark became. Bombay duck.
[14:40] Yeah, and nothing to do with the bird duck Connecticut guesses,
[14:46] what? The other etymology is, I mean,
[14:47] I don't know how much Marathi, you know, I am very poor and I
[14:51] practically very little except for fuck.
[14:55] You can't leave this out. It's an it's an it is an actual
[14:59] word in Marathi. Yeah, no, not gonna bleep it
[15:02] out. It's an actual word.
[15:03] Yeah. And you want to tell the
[15:05] audience what it means? Just so that we don't get into
[15:08] more trouble. I think it means only or a
[15:11] unique something along those lines, but he don't quote me on
[15:15] this. I'm not a Marathi speaking,
[15:16] neither am I? But in this case, I do know for
[15:18] a fact that the Marathi name for the fish is Bumble.
[15:21] Ah yes yes Bombay. Yes. so, when you would be
[15:25] selling your wares or your product in a Bazaar, you would
[15:28] say here is Bumble or in Marathi, that would become
[15:32] Bombay Tok. Oh, that's how it will be
[15:37] pronounced, and that's how bomb will talk became Bombay.
[15:39] Duck. And these are the two possible
[15:41] Origins for Bombay duck. Yeah, I don't know that you say
[15:45] it it kind of fits me because in konkani, I just spoken and go
[15:50] out which is very close related to Marathi as a language.
[15:52] It's also called bumble Exactly. So bomb built up.
[15:56] Bombay. Duck or Bombay duck like male
[15:58] coming from Bombay becomes Bombay duck and I love that.
[16:03] To competing at Moses, for the same fish.
[16:07] Yes, that was a beautiful yet stinky question.
[16:12] I'm surprised that the British wouldn't able to get their
[16:16] tongues around something as simple as dark, just a matter of
[16:21] stringing to extra wobbles Joe, or something like that, is what
[16:26] we expect from them in anyway. Moving on, from the British.
[16:32] torturing the Indian language to It's someone else getting
[16:37] tortured with something like a bullet.
[16:41] Yes, I know smooth. Sacred extremely smooth on July
[16:44] 2nd 1881 President James Garfield was shot by an assassin
[16:50] in the right side of his torso, just about his waist.
[16:54] Mortally wounded Garfield lay in the white house for weeks.
[16:59] Doctors called X. To find the bullet X was
[17:06] supposed to use his invention, why to try and find the bullet.
[17:10] But this was unsuccessful because of the bed.
[17:15] That Garfield was lying on. So I wanted to identify the
[17:18] person X And the invention, why? Hmm.
[17:24] So Garfield was shot. By an assassin.
[17:29] And doctors needed, help trying to find the bullet.
[17:33] So, they called X. Okay.
[17:37] He was supposed to use why which was his invention, but this was
[17:42] unsuccessful because of the bed that Garfield was lying on.
[17:46] So, I know this piece of trivia, and I remember, especially when
[17:51] the whole Trump assassination thing happened.
[17:53] I remember a lot of trivia about past assassination, attempts
[17:58] came up and I read it. Then I, I think this is Belle.
[18:05] Alexander, Graham Bell. Oh very very good.
[18:08] Yeah. I was thinking you might get the
[18:12] invention first and then you might have to work your way back
[18:14] to the inventor but you're right.
[18:15] It is Alexander Graham Bell. The person that we credit for
[18:20] having invented the telephone, so the qualification that we
[18:23] credit him because of course there are some disputes.
[18:26] Yeah I am if not anything precise Okay.
[18:32] So what was he looking? I was thinking some sort of a
[18:35] medical device and he was a prolific inventor.
[18:38] But what device did you use here?
[18:42] You said that the bed came in the way.
[18:45] Yes. In, finding the bullet.
[18:46] Yes. And then I guess it can't be
[18:48] forceps or something like that. Hmm.
[18:53] I guess it's too early for an MRI or or some sort of
[18:58] rudimentary MRI. Oh yeah, no, no, no, no.
[19:01] The MRI was in the 1970s. 60 70. Yeah.
[19:07] That sounds about, right. So, it's way too early.
[19:11] Hmm. Oh, a metal detector.
[19:14] Oh, very good and the bed had a metal frame or something, a
[19:18] metal spring. Bed springs or metal.
[19:21] Right. Right.
[19:22] Right. Makes sense.
[19:22] Yes. So bringing it back full circle.
[19:26] James Garfield was shot. The bullet went in and the
[19:30] doctors couldn't retrieve the bullet.
[19:32] They called, in Alexander. Graham Bell just to find the
[19:36] bullet using his newly invented metal detector.
[19:39] However, this isn't successful because coffee was flying on a
[19:43] bed with metal spring and an additional piece of trivia while
[19:48] he was flying there because of his injuries to restore.
[19:51] So they were able to give him food directly.
[19:53] So for I think about a week or so he was fed the other way
[19:58] around. Oh, okay.
[20:01] Yeah, I don't remember there was something called he was fed
[20:04] chewed up food. Yes, the other way around, if
[20:07] you know what I mean. Okay, I don't think I went into
[20:10] the specifics of it, but yes, I know what you mean.
[20:12] The wrong way, up brings new meaning to the word anal.
[20:16] Retentive You know, I don't know how many people were using it on
[20:21] a regular basis and we're looking for a new meaning for it
[20:24] but sure. Okay.
[20:27] I want to say great question but that took a doctor at the end if
[20:30] you know what I mean. Okay.
[20:33] Oh actually speaking of dark turns me to my next question
[20:36] Vinnie, tell me what are these options for okay go to
[20:43] Australia. Use your own judgment.
[20:47] Do not retaliate. Mhm.
[20:51] Or retaliate with Dash. There are a few more options,
[20:56] but these are the ones I'm giving you for now.
[20:59] These sound like something from board game.
[21:01] Hmm, you would think so, but no, not even close, actually.
[21:05] So kind of cold, okay, the other option would be, you said go to
[21:09] Australia for those who did not know Australia was once a prison
[21:14] continent in that, the English sent their prisoners, and other
[21:19] people who they did, they wanted to get rid of this and the
[21:22] frustrated anything to do with that particularly historical
[21:25] nugget. Okay.
[21:27] Nothing to do with the prisoner Colony status of Australia at
[21:31] some point, but you did mention England and that gets you a
[21:35] little warmer. Oh, this is the English are
[21:37] giving you options to go to Australia to retaliate not to
[21:41] retaliate. To retaliate with something and
[21:46] what's the other one? Use your own judgment.
[21:49] And by the way, this is not an exhaustive list.
[21:51] As I mentioned, use your own judgment.
[21:55] Wow, I'm gonna need a clue. Okay.
[21:58] So then I am going to give you one more option on this list and
[22:01] hopefully it'll make it a lot easier, okay?
[22:05] Put yourself under the command of the United States.
[22:09] Go to Australia. Do not retaliate.
[22:13] Oh wait were the options given to King George.
[22:19] When Hitler was attacking or something?
[22:24] So you're pretty close to the Warfare angle, but this isn't a
[22:28] historical fact. This is a present day thing.
[22:31] This is a present dating go to Australia.
[22:34] Put yourself under the commander, the United States.
[22:40] These are excerpts from kills Thomas conversation with all of
[22:45] the mere zielinski. Voice sensitive topic and also
[22:50] very volatile. You don't know what will happen
[22:53] from the time. We are recording to the time.
[22:54] Yes, this episode. Yeah.
[22:56] So I apologize to everyone in Ukraine.
[23:00] Not to go too deep into current Global conflicts.
[23:04] This has something to do with global conflicts in general.
[23:08] Let me give you the option that I gave you a blank for retaliate
[23:12] with nuclear weapons. So that's an option.
[23:17] Do not retaliate is an option, use your own judgment is an
[23:20] option, put yourself under the command of the United States, if
[23:24] it is still there, that was the incomplete part.
[23:27] Go to Australia, okay? So then these are the options
[23:32] given to English commanders, in case of Russia, launching a
[23:38] nuclear strike. Against England, it's a little
[23:43] bit more General than that, but I'll give it to you.
[23:45] These are commands in the letters of Last Resort.
[23:50] Four identically worded handwritten letters.
[23:53] Oh, from the British prime minister to the commanding
[23:57] officers of the four British ballistic missile submarines.
[24:01] And let us have stored on board of the submarines or they
[24:05] contain instructions on what to do.
[24:07] If an enemy nucleus strike has destroyed the British government
[24:10] and as killed the Prime Minister and the designated second person
[24:15] whoever from the cabinet understood.
[24:18] So if it is ever carried out it would probably be the last
[24:22] official Act of his Majesty's, curved.
[24:26] Yeah, I would not be surprised. And if the letters are not used
[24:31] during the term of the Prime Minister who wrote them, they
[24:34] are destroyed unopened after the person leaves office and their
[24:38] content remains on 21 except the Prime Minister who wrote them.
[24:42] Wow, That was dark. I'm guessing you when you
[24:46] decided to go from something to something darker.
[24:49] Actually my Segway was the death of the head of the state.
[24:54] Okay. In this case, the UK, Okay,
[24:58] nice, nice. Great question.
[25:00] I love the fact that going to Australia as an option in this
[25:04] scenario like just head on down, why not Canada is my question.
[25:11] If I was to take a guess, it would probably be because of the
[25:14] physical proximity. So, both the US and Canada.
[25:20] Are geographically closer to the UK and potentially Australia is
[25:25] still a safe bet in the case of such a nuclear strike.
[25:30] I don't know. and honestly in recent history they have changed
[25:33] rather frequently so I'm not even sure how many times a year
[25:38] these letters are issued And much like the British prime
[25:42] minister's, I will quickly hand the Baton over to you to take
[25:46] over. so that was a great question and Darkly topical, if
[25:53] you know what I mean, if you see if anyone saw the What's going
[25:58] on between Putin and Ski and Trump and whatnot.
[26:02] I'm going to go slightly similarly topical because a lot
[26:06] of people are happy right now after the new budget came out
[26:10] for the next financial year, which is reduced, the tax
[26:14] burden, on a lot of people, I want you to take your mind back
[26:18] around 2530, almost 25, 27 years.
[26:22] To the dream budget of 1997 1998 when HD Deva gowda was pm and
[26:29] pitched ambaram was the Finance Minister.
[26:32] This budget now is called the dream budget.
[26:34] If you did not know, and this is when the highest income tax rate
[26:39] was reduced to 30%. It used to be much higher after
[26:43] 50% or more in the past. And the tax net was also
[26:47] expanded. so, according to the bird that particular budget,
[26:51] people who met two of four criteria, Okay.
[26:58] Who met two of any four criteria.
[27:01] Had to file income tax returns. I'm going to tell you three of
[27:06] those criteria. You have to tell me what was the
[27:08] fourth Okay. And this is 1997 1998 and remind
[27:13] you again. And three of the criteria were
[27:15] only of four wheeler, which is a four-wheel car or whatever.
[27:20] Owning immovable property that is if you had land of any sort,
[27:23] or if you visited a foreign country during the previous
[27:27] year, these were three of the criteria.
[27:30] My question is, which was the fourth So four wheeler visiting
[27:36] a foreign country or owning property immovable property land
[27:41] buildings, and this is criteria for filing income tax. yes, you
[27:48] have to file income tax, if any of these if you, if you fulfill
[27:53] two of at least any of these four criteria, Okay, that's
[27:56] interesting because I would think the most obvious one is
[27:59] just how much income you have. Like, a certain number.
[28:04] But I was using, that's not the fourth criteria.
[28:06] Know, can't claim full credit for this question.
[28:09] I have to give credit to the question to JC in our house are
[28:13] quite a prolific wisma onlines. So right.
[28:16] Hmm. Okay, interesting since it's
[28:21] 1997. I'm gonna say owning a mobile
[28:23] phone that should qualify you for income tax.
[28:27] Oh, very close and internet connection if your house had
[28:32] one. Little colder.
[28:36] So close to mobile phone, then to internet or computer.
[28:41] Yeah, I'll give it to you. I'll give it to you because you
[28:46] dear boy, are a child of the late 90s.
[28:49] I was already at this point page.
[28:52] Oh, was it a pager know? This is actually just owning a
[28:57] telephone if you own the telephone.
[29:01] Showcase my privilege. A little bit little bit but yes.
[29:08] So if you own the telephone, that was one of the four
[29:11] criteria that you had to file income tax returns.
[29:14] Very interesting, getting back the details of this is very very
[29:18] difficult and so I have to give for credit and everything to JC
[29:23] Narayan, path of this question because the moment I heard this
[29:25] question, I was like, wow, this is amazing.
[29:28] Hmm, do you do you remember your first landline?
[29:31] Number vineet, I was in Bahrain. So yeah I want to say no I asked
[29:40] because for some reason I have never been able to forget mine.
[29:42] It was 8876049. And I was at this distinct
[29:47] memory of this 7 digit number. Becoming an 8-digit number in my
[29:50] childhood. So two was added to the front of
[29:53] it. So we begin to wait at 76049 and
[29:55] this was an mtnl number. I used to live in Mumbai back
[29:58] then I think it was the other. I was the other, okay, so if I
[30:02] remember correctly in the 80s phone numbers had only four
[30:05] digits. Okay.
[30:06] In the 90s that became six digits and this adding of two
[30:11] and all think, made it seven digits if I'm not mistaken.
[30:13] Oh yeah, actually, maybe I'm missing remembering it.
[30:17] Maybe it was only 04 and then the two was added and we came
[30:22] seven digit. Number possibly, possibly, you
[30:24] could be right? I might be Mr. Remembering it
[30:26] and I love to confirm my parents.
[30:29] But yeah, they added another digit because I assume a lot
[30:33] more people were getting phones. Yeah.
[30:36] Wow, we really old Our Generation, I think.
[30:42] I remember owning an actual Walkman I have held a 5.25 inch
[30:47] floppy disc not even the 3.5 inch.
[30:49] I've had a 5.25 inch floppy disk in my hand.
[30:53] Oh use the laser disc at one point that.
[30:57] But that was very few occasions, but I have seen a laser disc.
[31:01] Yes. If to those kids, who are
[31:03] wondering what are? They said this case?
[31:05] It was like a giant vcd. Again, coming to the point, I've
[31:10] used vcds DVDs, Zip drives. I don't even, I don't even know
[31:15] if anybody is even seen a zip Drive in the last 25 years?
[31:18] I'm not even sure what the Zip drive is.
[31:21] Oh, okay. Okay, so if you guys, I don't
[31:25] know how to exactly tell you this.
[31:27] But the zip ties were like cartridges that you had, which
[31:30] were used for storage. Oh and those were just insanely
[31:35] cool looking. They were just fantastic to use.
[31:38] They look like floppies but like bigger and thicker and it was
[31:42] just a removal storage system. Basically, you brought it, you
[31:46] inserted a floppy, and that was your drive.
[31:49] And you could carry it around which was just amazing.
[31:52] You just plug it in floppy after floppy after floppy.
[31:55] And then I remember the the time or when we had 512 MB flash
[32:03] drives, I remember that. I remember that.
[32:05] Yeah. I remember actually one of the
[32:08] Spider-Man games I saw on my cousin's computer and I wanted
[32:12] to take it from him and take it from myself, which I guess is
[32:16] considered piracy yes. Yeah, And my cousin did not have
[32:20] a CD burner, so I couldn't burn it onto a CD, or maybe I did not
[32:25] have a CD drive on my home computer.
[32:27] I don't remember exactly. But anyways, I decided to get it
[32:30] on a floppy Drive instead and I remember the stupid game was
[32:33] like five me more than the discs space on the floppy drive.
[32:36] And so I couldn't get the game and how was really hard broken?
[32:40] Oh yeah. I remember, I remember Windows
[32:45] 3.1. So those CDs Windows, the
[32:48] installation of which came in a box of floppy, disk drives.
[32:52] Wow. And they were always, if I'm not
[32:54] mistaken green in color instead of the usual black that you used
[32:58] to get. I remember, I'm getting
[33:00] releasing transparent floppy drives of fluorescent colors.
[33:04] Do you had a transparent? Yellow transparent, fluorescent
[33:08] green, transparent clothes, and pink and those were like hot
[33:11] items among the cool kids in these days. mmm, and I remember
[33:18] the time where we had dial-up internet, Using dial-up internet
[33:23] to the turn of the century was so annoying.
[33:26] I still remember I was using a vsnl connection at the time, a
[33:31] vsnl connection and I remember trying to pirate and I'm a
[33:38] pretty sure the statute of limitations is over, so I can
[33:40] confess his online. But I remember trying to Pirate
[33:42] a James Bond theme song, Tina Turner, I think it was cold and
[33:47] I the song was around. I think three megabytes.
[33:52] And it took something like 45 minutes.
[33:55] For me to download that song and probably because the download
[34:01] got disconnected twice and I had to restart it again and again of
[34:05] course and we had to use, download managers, I remember
[34:09] using peer-to-peer sharing networks.
[34:10] Yeah LimeWire I did not use lime where I actually braided used or
[34:15] in websites like pirate bay and stuff.
[34:17] Those are torrents those are like pocket torrents LimeWire
[34:21] was the Wild Wild West. I was like direct P2P sharing
[34:24] and everything had viruses. Like, you could catch a cold,
[34:28] just logging into that website, that many viruses.
[34:35] The original pandemic. Yeah.
[34:37] And Though this I remember is to put like a standard DVD rip on
[34:42] download at night like a 700 MB one.
[34:44] Yeah so I would turn on the download at night before I went
[34:47] to sleep and in the morning Presto behold, I had a movie.
[34:51] Yes. And BSNL used to give free
[34:54] Internet, unlimited, internet between two a.m. and I think it
[34:58] is 7 a.m. in the morning between 2 and 7:00.
[35:00] In the morning, BSNL used to have unlimited free.
[35:03] So you would get in those days. Again, for those Genesis
[35:06] listening, we used to have internet connections, a
[35:10] broadband psnl connection, which had a massive bandwidth monthly
[35:15] bandwidth of two gigabytes. 2, GB, that would be a lot of
[35:21] internet, right? And so, we hardly used to do any
[35:24] surfing in the morning, everything you used to be done
[35:26] at night, And just to blow your mind even more.
[35:29] My first computer, had an like a complete memory of I think
[35:33] around 64 MB. Oh, wow.
[35:36] Look at you flexing, you lucky lucky, man.
[35:38] Oh, I remembered, by the way, the first ever movie, I watched
[35:42] on torrents, or I downloaded on torrents was Death Race, and
[35:45] this is not a pop culture recommendation.
[35:46] It's not a good movie by any means.
[35:48] No, it just happened to be the first movie, I downloaded.
[35:51] Wow, you came very late to the game.
[35:54] Death Race is a fairly recent movie, write 2008.
[35:57] I think yeah, I'd not used torns before that.
[35:59] Oh yeah, I was a veteran by that time.
[36:02] The old time are, look at this confessing to crimes.
[36:07] Speaking of actually, I had downloaded files and illegally,
[36:11] shared them like I used to download.
[36:12] I remember songs from songs or PK.
[36:15] Oh yeah, that was a Pakistani website, which used to buy it
[36:18] for Bollywood songs on cross border cooperation.
[36:22] All really shitty quality. Or you take that back, you take
[36:27] that back songs or PK was a lifesaver.
[36:29] Okay. Yeah.
[36:31] Okay. Fine.
[36:32] And before we end up in this walk down memory lane or which
[36:38] is a, let's just say a very sweet way of saying that an old
[36:41] fart was reminiscing about the past 30 years, but I don't know
[36:46] if people remember because nowadays we have influencers and
[36:51] Kim Kardashian and Virat Kohli, and all these people who have
[36:54] like a huge following and whatnot, right?
[36:56] But I don't think and this is my personal opinion.
[37:00] Anybody has had as much of a uniform impact.
[37:05] All around the world as someone called axo.
[37:11] I don't know if you know who axle is.
[37:13] Of course, was our God back in the day, a messiah for the
[37:19] internet? Yes.
[37:21] So by the way, we still don't know who he really is.
[37:24] He or she really is but Axel was the Avatar of the internet name
[37:29] of a of a saint frankly who used to rip DVDs and compress them
[37:37] down into 700 MB torrents. Now why that's important is
[37:44] because 700 MB and he used to do it perfectly within 700 MB,
[37:49] regardless inside is the movie without losing much quality. 700
[37:52] MB was the exact size if you want to rip it onto a CD, Hmm,
[37:58] because you used to get 700 mbc's by the time by the time
[38:01] and I don't know if you know this but at one point I think
[38:06] roughly around you started piloting stuff in 2008 30%.
[38:14] Of all movie downloads across the world were exotic.
[38:19] Oh wow, that's an insane number 33 percent of all movie
[38:24] downloads. Indian tire world were axolotes
[38:29] so much. So that we see when we used to
[38:31] search for Torrance, we used to search with the name of the
[38:33] movie followed by akzo. Yeah, I've done that.
[38:36] So there were competitors who came up with a name similar to
[38:42] them. Where I think one very popular,
[38:43] one was placed on because it is kale axxon.
[38:47] So it would also come up. If you search for axle butt
[38:51] cracks once you click on used to put not just 700 MB.
[38:54] They used to put a 1000 400 MB. You remember the format of the
[38:57] files because I remember it used to be the naming like something
[39:01] like name of the movie with periods in between, and then
[39:05] here and then DVD rep. And then it would say English,
[39:07] followed by Exo. Yeah, yeah and I just Google it.
[39:13] He was uploading stuff between 2005 and 2009, but his content
[39:18] must have been around for such a long time after that, because I
[39:21] remember using it all the way up to 2000.
[39:23] Yeah. The thing is Once MP4 started
[39:27] coming up because our access files are on API files and by
[39:30] the time we got to MP4, you know, so became a little bit,
[39:33] let's say a lower quality than we were expecting.
[39:36] Okay, that's enough reminiscing. Let's get back to the quizzing.
[39:42] Thank you for reminding me about eggs.
[39:44] So I'd almost forgotten or this legendary individual.
[39:47] And actually, speaking of legendary, people brings me to
[39:52] my next question. Helen Patricia Sherman, do you
[39:56] know of that person? Helen Patricia Sherman.
[39:59] Can't say that brings a bell. She is a British chemist and
[40:04] Cosmonaut, who became the first British person first Western
[40:09] European woman, and first privately funded woman in space,
[40:13] as well as the first woman to visit the mere space station in
[40:16] May 1991. Okay.
[40:20] Just to clarify something, you said she was British.
[40:22] Yup, British chemist and a cosmonaut. okay, so my question
[40:27] here is if someone is from Britain.
[40:33] But they go up in Ross Cosmos. You know, the soyuz mission.
[40:39] Does that make them an astronaut or not?
[40:43] Hmm, you're right. Cosmonaut does refer to only
[40:47] Russian Space Explorers. Yeah, so then here we should be
[40:52] calling her an astronaut right? You're right, I'm not sure why
[40:56] Wikipedia says Cosmonaut and other.
[40:58] I check it does say it's not another sources.
[41:01] So let's assume that was an error and refer to her as an
[41:05] astronaut. Oh, by the way, now that you've
[41:08] brought it up, do you know what an Indian version of an
[41:10] astronaut or Cosmonaut is called?
[41:13] I think it's called a human rights Humanity.
[41:16] Yes yes Sanskrit. Word for space?
[41:19] Yeah. Okay, so Helen Patricia Sherman
[41:24] is an astronaut. Okay.
[41:27] Later the UK press labeled. Her gave her the nickname, the
[41:32] girl from Mars. Okay.
[41:34] Question is very simple. Why was she called the girl from
[41:38] Mars? machine involved in the chemical
[41:41] analysis of some kind of asteroid or meteor, which Landed
[41:47] in, you know, we've had some of those, right?
[41:50] I think Bill Clinton once announced that there was a
[41:54] Something from us one which they found traces of what may have
[41:57] been life. Yeah, I remember that false
[41:59] alarm. No, no, nothing of that sort.
[42:03] Okay, all from Mars. Hmm.
[42:09] Was she know, what do they call it?
[42:12] Like, was the soyuz mission that she went on named after Mars, in
[42:16] some way. Nope, because I'm guessing.
[42:18] If he went up to the mere space station, those were serviced by
[42:21] soyuz, you know, aircraft not a spacecraft.
[42:26] Yep, but know that had nothing to do with it.
[42:29] Okay. Then I need a clue in her
[42:32] description. I mentioned two fields of
[42:35] specialty. We have been discussing one of
[42:37] them, the space part of things. The second one would lead you to
[42:42] the answer actually. No, that's why I mentioned, you
[42:45] know, because you mentioned she was a chemist, which is where I
[42:47] was thinking of the chemical analysis of the rock.
[42:49] That was my first kiss, but if not, for the chemical analysis
[42:55] of something, from Mars, or for planet Mars, what else?
[42:58] Could it be? Don't tell me.
[43:01] It's a chocolate. Mars, Ellen, show, and actually
[43:05] worked with the company Mars as a chemist, dealing with the
[43:08] flavoring properties of chocolate.
[43:12] Wait, what's this before or after?
[43:14] She went on to the to the space registers before this was before
[43:18] her career as an astronaut. Oh nice, nice, the synchronicity
[43:24] of it is amazing. Yep.
[43:26] That's the girl from Mars. And it's actually quite
[43:29] hilarious, how she got that job as well?
[43:30] Because she was commuting home from work.
[43:33] When she heard the radio advertisement saying astronaut
[43:36] wanted no experience necessary. She thought she fit the bill.
[43:40] That's a fantastic question. That's a fantastic anecdote.
[43:47] I mean astronaut water. No experience needed.
[43:48] Why don't we have ads like that anymore?
[43:51] Give an example, we should have those ads, we should have a
[43:54] similar ad and right now like astronaut needed, no experience,
[43:58] required physical conditioning material, and then I would just
[44:02] be a perfect fit. Oh, so something like astronaut
[44:06] Ki coach don't be dirty about. Okay?
[44:12] That was a friend. That was a fantastic question.
[44:14] And let's move on to the last question of today's episode, are
[44:18] they? Yeah.
[44:18] Have you heard of the song called The Spa Know, I haven't.
[44:24] Okay, the spark was a viral song.
[44:26] Released in May 2024 by hip hop groups, cabin crew, And list
[44:31] Dune Varna crew okay the song became viral on tiktok and
[44:36] received critical and social media praised the song's lyrics
[44:39] were based on encouragement and Independence it was officially
[44:43] released onto streaming Platforms in June of 2024 and
[44:47] following its release it. Peaked number 38 on the UK
[44:50] official single sales chart, it was included in several music
[44:54] sets performed at the classroom berry festival. 2024, it was
[44:58] announced that the track is among others on the 67th Grammy
[45:02] ballot for the best dance or electronic recording.
[45:05] And song of the year, my question to you is what is
[45:08] notable about the rap Crews, who performed the song?
[45:13] Okay. Let me just do a tldr for you.
[45:17] Spark viral hip hop song by cabin crew and Liz, donor crew.
[45:23] Major success majority was in the Grammy ballot for best dance
[45:29] or electronic recording. And song of the year question,
[45:31] what is notable about the rap crew, who performed song?
[45:37] When was this? 2024 just about a year of last
[45:42] year. Just over a year ago.
[45:44] Yes. Oh, man.
[45:45] I'm kind of scared of saying this also, but is it something
[45:49] like people displaced or refugees from Ukraine, from
[45:54] Gaza, something like that? Were they the singers?
[45:59] No, no no, no no. Okay, a little more wholesome
[46:02] than that. Oh, that's nice.
[46:04] Okay, yeah, I've been stuck in this Quagmire of world falling
[46:10] apart, so let's say no wholesome Road, I love that.
[46:12] Hmm. Is it something like people you
[46:15] would not expect to be rapping? Like people, it's Peach
[46:17] impediments. They did that Force know, but
[46:21] you are on the right track as in this is a unique crew.
[46:24] Not unique, but it's not. These are not the kind of people
[46:31] you would associate with hip-hop.
[46:32] Oh okay. I don't know why the moment he
[46:36] said that the picture of a nun popped into my head.
[46:38] So are these nuns? Oh no, no.
[46:42] Okay. But if you are a fan of 90s
[46:46] period comedies on Netflix then you would Be close to the
[46:53] answer. Right.
[46:55] That's a very weird clue. I apologize.
[46:58] It's just a very self-indulgent clue.
[47:00] It would make sense to nobody else on planet Earth except me
[47:03] but yeah. Okay, so I'm gonna fully ignore
[47:08] that clue. Then some unexpected group of
[47:12] people. Oh, wait, you didn't say people,
[47:14] is it not people? Is it like animals of birds
[47:18] like, like a group of ferrets? I'll be very, very cool, but no.
[47:22] Or shame. Okay. 2024, is it like something
[47:26] to do with the AI generated voices?
[47:29] No no no no no. These are very real people.
[47:32] Okay, I'm just gonna toot my own horn and say, I've been
[47:34] fantastic guesses so far and fantastic cases.
[47:37] And the fact that they're not, the answer seems like a
[47:40] shortcoming on the question and not mine.
[47:42] Yeah, it just, it's not your fault that none of these are.
[47:45] Right? Exactly.
[47:47] Okay, let me see. A group of people not normally
[47:51] associated with their rap. Hmm.
[47:54] And you would have gone through got that answer.
[47:56] If it wasn't for those. Meddling kids are these kids
[48:01] like children? Irish school children, props to
[48:07] you by their, for the cutest hint of this episode so far,
[48:10] love it. Yeah, thank you, thank you.
[48:12] Okay, so good. And not just though, these are
[48:16] all Irish school children. I think if there's one group of
[48:20] people you would not associate with hip-hop, it would be Irish
[48:23] school children and they are comprised The Hip Hop groups
[48:28] cabin crew and please don't wanna grow.
[48:31] Now, if anybody's interested which practically is nobody
[48:34] listening, but if anybody's interested the clue that I gave,
[48:38] which I said that nobody else in the world would understand was
[48:41] when did he said none? And I said if you wouldn't
[48:44] understand 90's period, Comedy drama's from in on Netflix.
[48:50] I was speaking about Dairy girl. Oh which is about a group of
[48:54] Irish teenagers during the troubles in the 90s.
[48:56] And what about why? Not.
[48:59] Yeah, I would not have gotten that pop culture reference, but
[49:02] I would have gotten the reference for the movie
[49:04] Airplane. And there's this beautiful piece
[49:08] of prop comedy where a nun is reading that famous magazine
[49:12] called a boy's life or something and American Magazine as you.
[49:15] And then you see a boy reading, a magazine called a nun's life.
[49:19] Yeah. Oh that.
[49:23] By the way, is going to be my pop culture, recommendation for
[49:25] later as well. The movie Airplane.
[49:27] Oh yeah, I second that such a hilarious film.
[49:32] Yeah, they just don't make them like this anymore.
[49:34] I think people do afraid to make movies like that anymore.
[49:37] They're afraid of offending people.
[49:39] You've got to be kidding me. Surely.
[49:41] Okay, so that's the end of today's episode and before we
[49:49] wind things up, there's the matter of the audience question,
[49:51] which I asked to the beginning of today's episode which was,
[49:54] which is the most populated desert in the world.
[49:59] And what would be your answer that?
[50:01] Yeah, most populated desert. I would assume Santana Africa is
[50:07] pretty popular. So Sahara, no, no, I would say
[50:11] be closer to home. Oh so thar.
[50:14] Yes it is indeed. The third is it, which is the
[50:17] most popular desert in the world with a population density of
[50:20] over 80 people per square kilometer.
[50:23] And for those outside of India For Whom the Thar Desert may not
[50:27] make sense. It's also known as the Great
[50:29] Indian Desert makes sense. That's pretty cool.
[50:33] So that's that. And what type of culture
[50:37] recommendation that? Yeah.
[50:39] Since you said tired desert, I'm gonna say udaipur because I was
[50:42] there recently and I just loved that City.
[50:45] So, not really a pop culture recommendation, it's not a pop
[50:50] culture competition. Okay, fine.
[50:52] Fine, fine, pop culture. First one obviously.
[50:55] Like I just said the movie Airplane.
[50:57] Absolutely Bonkers, hilarious and laughter, right?
[51:02] Definitely. And apart from that, I recently
[51:05] caught the movie. Super boys of malegaon in
[51:08] theaters and it's pretty Sublime.
[51:11] Piece of art. I would definitely recommend it.
[51:13] A feel good friend. Oh yeah.
[51:15] And once you've got that or actually even before you guys
[51:18] that you can watch the documentary Superman of Malika,
[51:22] it's a documentary that the fictionalized version of, which
[51:26] was made, as super boys of America and the documentary.
[51:29] Superman of malegaon is based off of the making of a film
[51:32] Malika Superman. Oh, very matter.
[51:36] So, all these three things you can watch and some of them are
[51:39] available on YouTube, so check it out.
[51:41] And I also caught Phantom of the Opera earlier today.
[51:44] It is at the Nita Mukesh Ambani Cultural Center, so if you are
[51:49] in Mumbai, and if this episode is not being released too late,
[51:52] and if the Broadway shows playing, I would highly
[51:55] recommend going and watching that it was the first time I saw
[51:58] it live and I truly truly enjoyed it.
[52:02] Perks. Flex Flex.
[52:04] Sorry, I just had a cough. And a coughing fit over there.
[52:09] Yeah, I don't know what that was all about.
[52:11] Okay, so I would recommend that if you know the other Live
[52:15] Theater that I watched recently and they tore a cross the
[52:18] country so you must catch it. When it comes to a city near
[52:21] you, is this show called sukhan. Okay, so, can is this group of
[52:25] musicians and singers who do kavali and nazam and Shayari,
[52:30] and sunny music and they are so popular.
[52:32] That tickets get sold out within a couple of hours of being
[52:35] launched. Wow.
[52:36] And they usually perform in huge indoor venues so follow him on
[52:42] Instagram and check out whenever the show is visiting a city near
[52:45] you, by the way, it's a long shows like around 3 years or
[52:48] more than that. Wow.
[52:50] And yet, I know people who have watched this show multiple times
[52:53] like more than 10 times he recently.
[52:56] Yeah, it just feels like a party after a while.
[52:59] So yeah. That's my other live performance
[53:03] art, pop culture recommendation. I already mentioned friend of
[53:07] the Opera super boys of Malika and the movie Airplane.
[53:11] So those are my four recommendations for the week.
[53:16] Wow, so now you're going to those are not my single
[53:19] recommendation is going to seem very inadequate.
[53:21] Thank you for that. So my recommendation to you is
[53:25] nothing new. It's a show, it's been around
[53:28] for some time, but I would only recommend watching season 1 of
[53:32] it, which is just a friend, fantastic season.
[53:36] Searingly good acting. The show is called Goliath.
[53:40] And it stars Billy Bob Thornton and it's available on Amazon
[53:43] Prime. It's a legal drama.
[53:46] Thriller suspense. Just a fantastic show.
[53:51] All around season 2 onwards. There is a considerable dip in
[53:54] quality. But I would definitely recommend
[53:57] watching Goliath season 1. So that's my pop culture
[54:00] recommendation for this week and that's all for this episode.
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