# Episode 080 - Swimming, Pole Vaulting & Horseplay (The Olympics Bonanza)

An episode of [Are You Quizzing Me?](https://invisiblenetwork.ai/podcast/1663104901), 22 Aug 2024, 52 min.

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Do you know which practically unbeatable Olympic records were made in swimming? Do you know how Sergey Bubka dominated the world of Olympic pole vaulting? Do you know which German equestrian athlete holds an indomitable Olympic record? Discover a world of mind blowing Olympic trivia! Tune in to find out!! You can reach us at Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/areyouquizzingme/ Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/areyouquizzingme Email: areyouquizzingme@gmail.com Subreddit: https://www.reddit.com/r/areyouquizzingme Youtube: https://www.youtube.com/@areyouquizzingme/podcasts

## Transcript

[0:00] Welcome to RU Quizzing Me. I am Vineet Nair with my Co host
[0:04] Aditya Kashyap. This is a quizzing trivia
[0:07] podcast show. Join us as we dive deep into
[0:10] history, science, pop culture and so much more.
[0:14] Let's get quizzing and we're back for episode #80 that's 80
[0:23] of RU Quizzing me, your favorite quizzing and trivia podcast
[0:26] show. Aditya and I are back for
[0:29] another round of quizzing on this 80th episode of our
[0:33] podcast, which frankly, every milestone just makes me more
[0:36] happy that we've now reached 80. So let's get on with the show
[0:42] and starting us off with the audience question.
[0:44] This is the question I ask at the beginning of the episode,
[0:47] the answer to which I give you at the end of it.
[0:50] This is an India Pacific question.
[0:52] Madhya Pradesh is the biggest tendood leaf producing state of
[0:57] India. Tendu leaves being the leaves of
[1:00] Diaspiros melanoxylon. The average annual production of
[1:05] Tendu leaves in Madhya Pradesh is around 25,00,000 standard
[1:09] bags which is nearly 25% of the total Tendu leaves production of
[1:15] the country. These leaves are used to make
[1:17] something very unhealthy but unfortunately very common in
[1:21] India. What are these Tendu leaves used
[1:25] to make? I will answer this question at
[1:28] the end of the episode and until then you can try and work out
[1:32] what the answer to it is. Let me start off this episode
[1:35] with a question to Aditya. Aditya, Are you ready?
[1:40] Hit me. OK, so X acted in 28 Hollywood
[1:46] movies during a period of 14 years, with nineteen of these
[1:50] movies coming in the last five years of his career.
[1:54] He used a stage name while acting and we know him better
[1:58] through his birth name. Prior to his acting career, he
[2:01] was engaged in the jute trade. Having lived a fascinating life.
[2:06] He holds many records to his name, one of which was equalled
[2:11] just this month and was much celebrated in the Indian media
[2:16] for our audience. We're recording this in August
[2:19] of 2024 for context in case you're listening to this much
[2:22] later. So he holds many records and one
[2:27] of which was equaled just this month and was much celebrated in
[2:31] the Indian media. Can you guess who X is?
[2:36] The record was equaled in August 2024.
[2:39] Yes. And was celebrated in Indian
[2:42] media. I was tempted to say something
[2:44] to do with World Cups or probably a former cricketer
[2:47] turned actor. But I don't think India equaled
[2:52] anybody's record with the World Cup win recently, so that
[2:57] doesn't make sense. What has Indian media celebrated
[3:02] recently? Oh, that's a tricky one.
[3:05] It feels like the media doesn't quite often celebrate stuff.
[3:08] OK. You also said was in the film
[3:11] industry for 19 years and most of the films within the last 14
[3:15] years of his? Last five years of his career.
[3:18] Sorry, last five years of his career, so short career.
[3:23] A lot of films in the last five years.
[3:26] We know this person by their birth name.
[3:29] Yes. Even though they had a stage
[3:31] name. In Hollywood, he used a stage
[3:34] name. Short career, very much loaded
[3:39] towards the end. Again, sounds like a Bruce Lee
[3:42] thing. But.
[3:44] No, Bruce Lee, I think is the name, Yeah.
[3:49] I don't think there's any birth name versus stage name situation
[3:51] over there. Are these movies famous?
[3:55] Do we know this person as an actor, or do we know them for
[3:57] some other part of their career? We know them for something else.
[4:02] Can I get a hint as to what that is?
[4:05] What's going on in August of 2024 that's captured everybody's
[4:08] attention? I was thinking Olympics, but
[4:12] what did we do that was Olympics related?
[4:16] There was a record that he held that was, let me put it this
[4:20] way, maybe it'll make it easier for you.
[4:22] There was a record that he held which was equaled by an Indian.
[4:27] There's an Olympic record that was equaled by an Indian
[4:29] recently, I said. He there was a record that he
[4:32] held which was equaled by an Indian.
[4:35] Oh, but you're not talking about Olympics yet.
[4:37] Yes, we are talking about the Olympics, but it's not an
[4:39] Olympic record. I mean like not technically an
[4:42] Olympic record. It's a record.
[4:45] Olympic adjacent has something to do with the Olympics, but not
[4:48] an official Olympic record. Yeah.
[4:50] I mean, like, I don't think you would see the IOC, you know,
[4:53] putting this in their record books, but India definitely
[4:56] does. Interesting.
[4:59] No? Wow, I'm so blank.
[5:00] Could I get a clue? Perhaps that will help me.
[5:03] OK, so the person who equaled this record was going to be the
[5:09] flag bearer at the closing ceremony.
[5:12] But now that has changed. After their performance, the
[5:15] person who equalled the record was fingered to be the flag
[5:19] bearer for the Indian contingent in the closing ceremony.
[5:21] However, now that has changed after much more impactful.
[5:27] I wouldn't say impactful, but at least among sports people and
[5:31] the sporting authorities of India, they find that another
[5:34] person's contribution kind of overshine hers.
[5:37] So now that another person is going to be the flag bearer, but
[5:42] this person, the person who equalled the record, was going
[5:45] to be the flag bearer for the closing ceremony.
[5:48] Interesting. Somebody is going to be the flag
[5:50] bearer for the closing ceremony, no?
[5:52] Wow, you have me completely stumped right now.
[5:57] So I will now tell you the person's name and let me see if
[6:01] you can tell me who the original record holder was.
[6:05] So the person who equalled the record this month was Manu
[6:09] Bhaker. Manu Baker won two bronze
[6:12] medals. So what record was she touted
[6:15] her as having? Equal.
[6:17] Actually, most of the Indian media reported this slightly
[6:20] incorrectly. They touted her as the first
[6:23] person from an Indian Olympic contingent to win more than one
[6:27] medal at the same Olympics. Oh, got it.
[6:31] OK, alright, so it was an Indian record.
[6:33] Ah, see, that's where he threw me off because I was assuming it
[6:36] is some record across the world that Manubhagar somehow equaled.
[6:42] OK, so it was an Indian record. Got it.
[6:45] Yes, but as I mentioned, the media has incorrectly assumed
[6:50] her to be the first person to do so, when in fact she was not.
[6:56] Oh interesting, I don't think it can be any of India's hockey
[7:01] players who won this. I have, I believe, mentioned
[7:04] this person on the podcast before, but it was a long time
[7:08] ago. I was recently thinking about
[7:10] how we have spoken about so many things that that has become a
[7:13] useless hint at this point. Telling me that you have spoken
[7:19] about this person or this topic before is practically just not
[7:24] an hint anymore. Some Indian sportsperson went
[7:28] into films, had a stage name but better known by their birth
[7:32] name. Won two medals at the Olympics
[7:37] and the first person to do so. First Indian person to do so.
[7:42] First person from the Indian contingent.
[7:45] I like that interesting correction of my phrasing.
[7:48] Let's say So not an Indian person, but first person from an
[7:51] Indian contingent. OK, so then by that logic
[7:55] there's a person from the in contingent who won a medal in
[7:58] the 19 O 4 Olympics. For my life, I can't remember
[8:01] this person and this was a track and field something.
[8:06] Must be a Whitey, I must be a British athlete.
[8:09] And he was the first person from the Indian contingent to win a
[8:13] medal. I think he won two medals then.
[8:15] So is this the person you're talking about?
[8:17] So yes, you are. You are.
[8:19] You've got the right person wrong.
[8:21] Olympics. It was a 1900 Olympics.
[8:23] It was a 1900 Summer Olympics. Look.
[8:26] He won a silver I believe, two silvers, one in the 200 meters
[8:31] and the other in the 200 meters hurdles.
[8:33] Right. Yeah, yeah.
[8:34] So this man is Norman Pritchard. We have spoken about Norman
[8:39] Pritchard, we have spoken about. Norman Pritchard.
[8:41] We have spoken about Norman Pritchard, yes.
[8:43] So Norman Pritchard was born in Calcutta and he was part of the
[8:47] British Indian contingent. And so the IOC records his
[8:50] medals as those for India, not for Great Britain.
[8:56] So technically, he's the first person from an Indian contingent
[8:59] to win more than one medal at a single Olympics.
[9:03] The thing is, he also holds a lot of other records which many
[9:06] people are not aware of. He scored the first hat trick in
[9:11] Indian football in 1899. He was the first Indian Olympian
[9:17] and the first person from an Asian country to win silver
[9:21] medals in both the 200 meters and 200 meter hurdles.
[9:24] He was also the first Olympian to act on the stage in England,
[9:29] where he was a big name, and on the big screen in silent
[9:32] Hollywood movies under the screen name Norman Trevor.
[9:37] Interesting. So that was Norman Pritchard.
[9:40] Now on the subject of records and since we are with the
[9:45] Olympics right now, I do have a couple of questions for the
[9:47] Olympics coming up. I will after your question be
[9:51] focusing on Olympic or rather sports records.
[9:55] So a little teaser for you. You hit me with your question
[9:58] and I'll follow up with these records questions.
[10:01] Interesting that you do bring up the Olympics 'cause I guess we
[10:04] are all immersed in Olympics lore and Olympics trivia right
[10:08] now. And I must admit that this
[10:12] question is literally just an excuse and I don't think I've
[10:16] ever made this recommendation before.
[10:17] But this is a pop culture recommendation and I'll tell you
[10:20] exactly what it is after the question for people to go read a
[10:22] Wikipedia article. There is a specific Wikipedia OK
[10:26] that I want people to go read because I swear vineet, I have
[10:30] never laughed so hard while reading a Wikipedia article in
[10:33] my life. I don't think I've ever laughed
[10:35] while reading a Wikipedia article before, but I laughed
[10:38] multiple times and really hard while reading this particular
[10:42] article. So just just an excuse to please
[10:46] do yourself the biggest favour ever and go read this article.
[10:49] But let me ask the question first without hyping it out a
[10:52] little bit too much. So we are at the 19 O 4 Olympics
[10:57] for 8:00, and I guess that's as good a segue as you're going to
[11:01] get. OK?
[11:02] There was an event in which a gentleman by the name of
[11:06] Frederick Laws was awarded the winning position, the winning
[11:11] title, and later was rescinded of the title once it was made
[11:17] apparent that Frederick had cheated.
[11:19] It had even reach the stage where Alice Roosevelt, daughter
[11:23] of then President Teddy Roosevelt, recurring fixture of
[11:27] our podcast. At this point, Alice Roosevelt,
[11:30] daughter of Theodore Roosevelt, had had a photograph taken with
[11:33] Alice Roosevelt and who had already placed a wreath upon
[11:37] Lord's head. Which by the way, side note, is
[11:40] tradition that needs to make a comeback.
[11:41] They should stop giving out medals and just put wreaths.
[11:43] I think it would look a lot cooler.
[11:46] But anyway. So she had placed a read upon
[11:48] Lord's head and just then spectators and some officials of
[11:53] that sport came in and declared that Lords had cheated.
[11:57] And Lords immediately accepted that he had cheated.
[12:01] Can you tell me which event this was or how he had cheated?
[12:06] And I repeat once more, honestly, just an excuse to go
[12:08] read this article, but please take a guess as to which event
[12:14] did Frederick Law's cheat at. Was it the marathon?
[12:18] Very good. Yeah, very good.
[12:19] Quick answer. He cheated at the marathon.
[12:21] You want to take a guess as to how he cheated at the marathon?
[12:24] I think he drove halfway through or something like that, or he
[12:28] joined halfway. Law started the race with the
[12:31] rest of the contingent, but after a few miles he started
[12:34] suffering cramps and wanted to drop out of the race after 9
[12:38] miles. So he hitched a ride back to the
[12:40] stadium in a car. He did not try to pretend that
[12:43] he was still racing because he was waving at spectators and
[12:46] runners while taking the ride back to the stadium.
[12:50] So it's just that the car broke down at the 19th mile.
[12:55] So he re entered the race and jogged across the finish line.
[13:03] At this point they declared him a winner.
[13:05] Lords happily went along with a fast till somebody came and
[13:08] confronted him and as soon as he was confronted, Laws accepted
[13:12] that yes, he had taken a car ride too for more than half of
[13:16] the race and he claimed he was playing a practical joke.
[13:19] So initially they tried to ban him for life.
[13:21] Then they removed that ban for lifetime ban and made it like a
[13:25] six month ban or something. And he went on to actually win
[13:28] the 19 O 5 Boston Marathon. So Laws recover from this.
[13:32] Now, you would think that this was the funniest thing that
[13:35] happened, and I must admit that a lot of it is a slightly
[13:38] disturbing also, but given that it's been more than 100 years, I
[13:40] think we can afford to laugh at it.
[13:42] There were multiple other people who went through absolutely
[13:45] bonkers things. OK, and I'm going to give you a
[13:48] quick summary, but please worry about all of these people.
[13:52] There was a Cuban postman by the name of Andarin Karahal.
[13:56] I'm hoping I got the pronunciation somewhat correct.
[14:00] Who had also wanted to participate in the marathon, and
[14:02] he arrived at the very last minute.
[14:04] Why do you think he arrived at the very last minute?
[14:06] Vineet? This, by the way, was being
[14:08] conducted in Saint Louis in the US.
[14:11] So why did the Cuban postman arrive really late?
[14:14] It sounds like a setup for a Riddle.
[14:17] Yeah, I know. I had my my first instinct is to
[14:20] say that he was delivering post, but he can't be.
[14:23] I mean like it was in Saint Louis, which I'm guessing in the
[14:26] US and he's from Cuba. If it was this obvious, it would
[14:29] not make it a fun piece of trivia.
[14:31] So here's what he did. So he actually came to New
[14:35] Orleans in Louisiana before he reached Saint Louis, and he lost
[14:40] all his money gambling. So he had to hitchhike all the
[14:42] way to Saint Louis to participate in the marathon.
[14:45] And he barely made it in time. So he had no time to change out
[14:49] of his clothes the marathon race.
[14:52] So he started running in whatever clothes he was wearing.
[14:55] Now this also led to the very interesting circumstance that
[14:59] poor Antharine, but I guess it depends on whether you consider
[15:02] him poor or not. Had not eaten in 40 hours, so he
[15:06] saw a spectator eating two Peaches.
[15:09] God. And he asked the spectator if he
[15:11] can borrow the Peaches. The spectator said no, and
[15:15] Anthony took the Peaches and ran away anyways because he was
[15:19] participating in the he stole spectator speeches and ran away.
[15:26] And this did not suffice. He was, he was still hungry.
[15:29] So at some point he ran past an orchard.
[15:31] He plugged an apple from there, or he took an apple that was
[15:34] lying around, I guess, and he started eating.
[15:36] It turns out the apple was spoiled so he got cramps or he
[15:39] he had stomach issues so he sat down and he.
[15:43] God, God took a nap. In the middle of his race, it
[15:46] was a little nap that he took in the middle of the race.
[15:49] And despite this, I guess as to what position did Andrein
[15:54] Caraval and the race at? Oh God please don't tell me its
[15:58] a medal position. Almost there because he came in
[16:01] at the 4th place. Yes, exactly.
[16:02] He came in at the 4th place after taking a nap after having
[16:07] stolen Peaches and after having eaten a random apple lying
[16:10] around in an orchard and suffering stomach cramps because
[16:13] of it. He came in at the 4th place and
[16:15] the last one that I'm going to tell you the rest of it is also
[16:18] a bonkers hilarious. But the last piece of trivia
[16:20] about 1904 marathon is that there were two favorites.
[16:24] It was the first time there were, I believe 2 black athletes
[16:27] participating in a track and field event at the Olympics.
[16:31] These were South African athletes by the lay names of Len
[16:35] Tawan Yang and John Mancioni. Apologies for the terrible
[16:40] pronunciation, I'm guessing. It's Jan because they're Dutch.
[16:43] Possibly yeah yeah Jan Marcioni and Len Town Town Yani Town
[16:48] Yani. Len finished 9th and Yan or Jan,
[16:51] however it is pronounced, finished 12th.
[16:53] This was a disappointment because many observers were sure
[16:57] that Len could have done better. Was a favorite to win, in fact,
[17:01] but didn't win Vineet. Guess why?
[17:03] Why did Len not win this stupid race?
[17:08] At at this point I don't even want to guess, just tell me what
[17:11] Like I don't think my imagination can match reality it
[17:14] won't it? Won't.
[17:15] I'll tell you why. Because he was chased nearly a
[17:18] mile, of course, by wild dogs. Wild dogs chased them off the.
[17:24] Coast by. More than a mile.
[17:26] Oh. God my you, you cannot make this
[17:29] up. I I don't even How is this not a
[17:34] movie? How is this not a movie?
[17:37] This needs to. Be such a movie, you need to.
[17:39] Show this from the viewpoint of some hapless fellow who's
[17:42] organizing the marathon, and then things just keep going
[17:45] worse, bad to worse. Oh.
[17:48] Oh, I'm sorry, I have to stop you there, because the guy who
[17:51] organized this marathon was the craziest of them all.
[17:54] Oh God, in a marathon. In a marathon which?
[17:57] This was not science, that was not known then.
[17:59] This was basic human existence. People knew that you needed
[18:02] water points along the way. This particular gentleman wanted
[18:06] to conduct experiments on dehydration, on the human being,
[18:11] on the human body. So he used only one water point,
[18:15] which is not even along the way, which was off the track
[18:17] somewhere. So you have to get back by a
[18:20] significant distance to go get water.
[18:22] And this was by choice, because this man wanted to conduct an
[18:25] experiment during the marathon in the Olympics as to whether
[18:29] the human body can deal with dehydration on a hot day.
[18:32] And this was done during, by the way, the hot hours of the day
[18:35] also, which is also very unlike marathons in general, so.
[18:38] God, you. Cannot sympathize with anybody.
[18:41] Everybody's just absolutely insane in the story or went
[18:45] through insane circumstances. This is the most hilarious thing
[18:48] ever. Please go read about the 19 O 4
[18:50] Olympics men's marathon I'm. Modifying my, you know,
[18:55] storyline so it's not going to for movies.
[18:57] Focus should not be the hapless person who's conducting the
[19:01] marathon. It should be the hapless
[19:03] assistant of the guy running the marathon he's trying to keep.
[19:06] His boss in line. But at the same time, things
[19:09] just go from bad to worse. Somebody, anybody make this a
[19:13] movie? Then I have only covered just
[19:17] the few tidbits from it that I could manage to fit in to this
[19:22] podcast I deeply, deeply recommend.
[19:25] Please go in and reading this entire article.
[19:27] This is my first pop culture recommendation of the day.
[19:30] OK, after that marathon of a question, Vineet, I hand the
[19:33] baton back to you. Yes, yes, yes.
[19:37] So if you are somebody who's watching the Olympics, you may
[19:41] have seen records being broken and a lot of other things being
[19:44] broken. So I've got a couple of
[19:45] questions which are based on records, right?
[19:49] So I'll tell you the name of a person and I will tell you what
[19:52] type of record, like whether it's an Olympic record or
[19:55] whether it's a world record, right?
[19:57] You have to try and guess what the record is.
[20:00] And these are like serious records.
[20:02] These are not like funny records, like most number of
[20:04] shits taken during a marathon or anything like that.
[20:07] But OK, first name on the list is Sergei Bupka.
[20:13] And this is like a world. He's got a record that mostly
[20:17] deals with World Championships and world records, not the
[20:20] Olympics. So what is the record set by
[20:24] Sergei Bupka, which is very unlikely to be broken anytime
[20:29] soon, but Armando Duplantis is quite close to doing something.
[20:35] I mean, like not even halfway, but if there's somebody,
[20:37] probably he can do it. Bhupka sounds very familiar.
[20:41] This is a it's a I'm either thinking a long jump athlete or
[20:50] a pole vault athlete. It's one of those events quizzes
[20:54] from. The 90s will remember Sergey
[20:56] Bukka because he was a staple question during the 90s.
[21:00] So I think the name sounds familiar because did he hold the
[21:06] world record for a very long time or something like that?
[21:09] Something very similar to which sport?
[21:11] Was it this was the pole vault or the this is the pole vault?
[21:14] Hence, I gave the example of Armando Duplantis or Mando
[21:18] Duplantis as people call him, right?
[21:21] He held the world record for the longest time.
[21:23] Doesn't sound right because I'm sure there have been longer
[21:26] world records. Yes, Bob Beeman comes to mind.
[21:30] He's his long jump record. I think Glen went on for 30
[21:34] years or something, 30. Five years, I believe I'll saw
[21:38] this recently. I actually saw the attempt
[21:41] itself, but did he gain the world record multiple times?
[21:45] Like did he get the world record and then get it again after a
[21:48] while and then get again after? Like did he lose it and get it
[21:50] back? Lose it and get it back I.
[21:52] Will give it to you. Sergei Bupka holds the records,
[21:56] holds the world record for breaking the world record in
[22:00] sports or athletics the most number of times.
[22:03] Oh, OK. Did he break his own record?
[22:05] I was initially implying that he broke somebody else's record.
[22:08] He broke. His own record, he broke other
[22:10] people's record, and he did a total of 35 times between 1984
[22:17] and 1994. Wow.
[22:19] OK, so during. The course of his career he set
[22:22] 17 outdoor and 18 indoor world records.
[22:27] Wow. OK, now Arman Duplantis, if I'm
[22:30] not mistaken, is at 15, including both indoor and
[22:33] outdoor. And the one of the reasons at
[22:36] least Duplantis does this, like obviously he can go much higher
[22:40] than 6.1 and whatnot, right? I mean, you can.
[22:43] He clears the bar by a good margin, but he does it in
[22:46] increments because every time he breaks a record he gets more
[22:49] money. Interesting.
[22:53] Very interesting. OK, OK, smart man.
[22:57] OK. So the next one's an easy one.
[23:00] Michael Phelps with regards to Olympic records, most.
[23:04] Number of golds. Yes.
[23:07] So he holds the record of most Olympic medals ever at 28 most
[23:13] gold medals, 23 most individual gold medals in a single
[23:17] Olympics. That is 8 at the Beijing Games.
[23:21] And his dominance is unmatched by practically any other
[23:27] Olympian. The only active sports person
[23:31] who's anywhere close is Katie Ledecky from the US swim team
[23:36] with 14 medals. And.
[23:39] She's nearing retirement, but she has said that she will not
[23:43] retire until she plays or until she participates in the next
[23:46] Olympics, which is to be held in the US.
[23:48] Oh. OK, but even.
[23:49] If she matches Phelps's record of eight gold medals in that
[23:54] Olympics, which is highly unlikely, she would still only
[23:58] land at 22, right? Interesting, right?
[24:01] OK, so the next name is again with regards to Olympic records,
[24:07] but not very well known name. The next two names are not very
[24:10] well known. So the first one is Larissa
[24:12] Latnina, no. I don't even know what sport
[24:15] this is, so some clue would help.
[24:18] So from the Soviet Union, and it was gymnastics stripped.
[24:22] Of the most medals since it's the Soviet Union, I'm going to
[24:27] take that as a guess. No, no, no, nothing like that.
[24:30] OK, so. Nothing that unhappy.
[24:33] OK. Is it like because I know
[24:35] swimming does dominate in terms of number of medals.
[24:37] So is it like outside of swimming the most number of
[24:40] medals or something like that or like some specific other event?
[24:42] Very close. She's she's the second highest
[24:45] medal winner overall after Phelps.
[24:47] Phelps is number one on the list.
[24:49] She's #2 gymnastics and she won 18 medals between 56 and 64.
[24:56] That is why you. Said a currently active person
[24:59] in the previous question. Smart he is, Katie.
[25:02] Litiki, yes, Yeah. OK.
[25:04] And. Not just that, because, I mean,
[25:06] like, you have to look at people who have a chance of breaking
[25:09] Phelps's record, and those will be people who are currently
[25:12] active. Yeah.
[25:13] Right. So the last person on my list
[25:15] again for Olympic records is Isabel Wert.
[25:19] OK. No, no idea from Germany.
[25:21] No idea. What Isabel?
[25:22] She's an. Equestrian who?
[25:25] She's an equestrian, so if you can, just try and guess what
[25:28] kind of record he holds most. And this is completely a wild
[25:31] guess. Most number of medals without
[25:33] winning a gold. No, I.
[25:36] Wonder who holds that? That would be interesting.
[25:39] OK, no. Yeah, Equestrian again, a sport
[25:42] that I don't have any or rather much clue about.
[25:45] So help me out. OK, so my clue to you would be
[25:50] that she won her first Olympic medal in 1992, which is
[25:58] Barcelona. That's my clue to you.
[26:00] So that may kind of help you get to the answer.
[26:04] Unified Germany equestrian Equestrians are not really
[26:08] limited by age, but I don't think it's the oldest Olympic
[26:12] record holder. You.
[26:13] You. Hit on a very good point when
[26:16] you mentioned that equestrians aren't limited by age like
[26:20] people from gymnastics or swimming.
[26:22] And all right, so run with that. See where that takes you.
[26:27] She's currently 55. 55 S 92 she would have been 23/22/20
[26:35] whatever. 22 Yeah, no idea what is the catch here.
[26:40] So the. Catch is, if you had been paying
[26:43] attention to the current Olympics, she's also won a medal
[26:47] now, so we put. That.
[26:49] Together and. See if you.
[26:52] Can get the answer most. Most Olympic Games ever attended
[26:56] for any athlete. No, no, I, I will give it to
[26:59] you. I will give it.
[27:00] You're close, but not right there.
[27:02] She holds the record for obviously most Olympic medals
[27:05] won by any equestrian athlete or by any German athlete and is the
[27:09] first athlete to win a medal at 7 different Olympic Games
[27:15] editions. Right, that's what I actually
[27:17] wanted to say, but that makes sense.
[27:18] Most medals won at different Olympics 7.
[27:22] God damn that is. That is very impressive.
[27:25] Wow. So now this was not a question I
[27:28] was going to ask, but because that we have come to this, I'm
[27:31] now going to ask you this question.
[27:33] I'm going to give you one more name and do you want to I want
[27:36] you to try and guess the record. Francisca van Almsic from
[27:41] Germany for swimming Olympic record go.
[27:45] Francisca Van, I'm sick. Never even heard the name.
[27:49] I would, I would suggest you go back in time in the same
[27:52] podcast, one of your failed guesses.
[27:56] I'm, I'm making this direct right now because when you said
[27:59] it, I was like, OK, I have to know who this person who holds
[28:02] his record is. So then I went and found it.
[28:05] This is the person who holds that record.
[28:07] And it was one of your failed guesses.
[28:08] It was this. Most medals, one without winning
[28:11] a gold medal, yes. So Francisca van Anslik, he has
[28:17] 10 Olympic medals, but none of them are gold.
[28:21] She's won only silver and bronze, making her the person
[28:26] with the highest number of medals, Olympic medals, who has
[28:29] never won a gold. So she participated in both.
[28:36] She was basically born in East Germany and it her she
[28:39] participated in the Barcelona Olympics.
[28:41] And she was described as the swimmer who United a nation due
[28:45] to her status as the first big star of German reunification.
[28:49] OK, well, no easier segue than this because I'm still sticking
[28:53] to the Olympic theme, I guess this is unofficially the theme
[28:56] of the podcast today. And this time the 19th century
[29:01] Olympics. And there was only one official
[29:03] Olympics which was conducted in the 19th century, which would be
[29:07] 1896, the Summer Olympics that happened in Athens.
[29:10] This was the revival of Olympics and it was decided for obvious
[29:14] reasons that it would be done in Athens.
[29:16] So we are going to be talking about two brothers, two American
[29:20] brothers by the name of Sumner Payne and John Payne, who were
[29:25] participating in the shooting events.
[29:27] They were fairly successful, won a few medals and had a good run
[29:34] at the 1896 Summer Olympics. Post the Olympics, the brothers
[29:38] went back to the country and in an unfortunate incident, Sumner
[29:43] Payne went home to find his wife in bed with his daughter's music
[29:48] teacher. So in a case of infidelity, his
[29:54] while he was off winning medals and participating in in shooting
[29:58] events, his wife had cheated on him with their daughter's music
[30:01] teacher. OK to ward.
[30:04] Him off, he fired four shots at this guy.
[30:09] Obviously not. That is very ridiculous to have
[30:12] done this to somebody who was a Olympic level shooter, but I'll
[30:17] accuse him because Olympics are very new at that time I guess.
[30:20] Why was he later first? He was briefly jailed but later
[30:25] released. Why do you think Sumner Pain was
[30:29] released eventually? Because I'm guessing the they
[30:33] argued that because he was an Olympic shooter he missed on
[30:37] purpose. Oh that is brilliant.
[30:41] Wow, I thought you would have to get there with some effort.
[30:45] Did you know this or did it? Was there a guess?
[30:46] No. No, no, no, I did not know this.
[30:49] But because you mentioned that you know that there was advise
[30:53] of him to do is because of a Olympic level shooter.
[30:55] But at the Olympics were new at the time I was like ah OK that
[30:58] would make a great excuse like I missed on purpose.
[31:00] Look at my medals, I have proof. I must nag and crack shot.
[31:04] That is exactly how it worked out.
[31:06] Yeah. And he fired four shots at this
[31:09] particular gentleman who was sleeping with his wife.
[31:12] And he missed all of those shots.
[31:15] And he was briefly jailed and charged with assault and not
[31:18] with attempted murder. I don't know why.
[31:21] But anyways, he was charged with assault.
[31:23] But then the police realized that who he was and what he had
[31:25] done in his past life I guess, and accepted that he must have
[31:29] missed on purpose and hence he was released, which I thought
[31:35] was very nice. Very nice I have.
[31:38] To also qualify this trivia with another little piece of trivia,
[31:41] the Payne brothers actually won a bunch of the shooting events,
[31:45] and this goes to show how in the early Olympics they really cared
[31:49] about the amateurism. Like it wasn't meant to be
[31:52] professional athletes. They were trying to get amateur
[31:55] athletes to come and do this. Both of them were not even
[31:58] specifically, or at least Sumner Pain was not there to
[32:00] participate in the Olympics. He was just in Europe at that
[32:03] point. He was working and traveling
[32:04] around in Europe. His brother had come over and I
[32:08] don't know why both of them had guns.
[32:10] They were just carrying guns. I guess people just did that
[32:12] back then. So he's like good old boys.
[32:14] From the US, obviously they had guns.
[32:17] Yeah, keeping that American flag flying high, They were in Europe
[32:21] and his brother came over to participate and he convinced
[32:24] Sumner. So John came over to Europe and
[32:27] he convinced Sumner, who was in Paris at that time, to accompany
[32:30] him to Athens to go along with him and to participate in this
[32:34] new thing that is happening called the Olympics.
[32:36] And they both went there and they won a bunch of medals.
[32:39] Just I love the idea that you were just sort of holiday
[32:41] somewhere and you're like, oh, you know what, this looks
[32:43] interesting. What are the Olympics it.
[32:45] Reminds me of the shooter from Turkey.
[32:47] Comes in with glasses AT shirt and like one hand in a pocket.
[32:51] Shoot and go home. Yeah, so.
[32:55] That was a great, great question.
[32:57] I have another question, which is a very interesting trivia
[32:59] fact. I'm going to give you an
[33:01] exhaustive list. Again, this is Olympics related.
[33:04] I'm going to give you an exhaustive list, and I need you
[33:08] to tell me what the connect is. The second Olympics held in
[33:13] Paris and the 32nd Olympics held in Tokyo.
[33:19] If I get this right, I'm going to be very impressed with
[33:21] myself. Oh, I will be very impressed
[33:24] with you. The entire world will be
[33:25] impressed with you. The only Olympics to have been
[33:30] held on non leap years. Oh brilliant, brilliant.
[33:35] So I was hoping that you wouldn't get that, but obviously
[33:39] you did. And so yes, these are the only
[33:42] two Olympics not held during a leap year.
[33:45] Now some people in our listening audience would be wondering,
[33:49] wait, Paris 1900 was the 2nd Olympics in 1900 should be a
[33:54] leap year, correct? Because it came four years after
[33:57] 1896, which was a leap year. But in fact it was not.
[34:01] Do you know why, Aditya? Obviously you do.
[34:04] I'm just being dramatic. So interestingly enough, I when
[34:08] I read this, I was quite blown away that leap year is every
[34:12] four years except every hundred years.
[34:15] But every 400 years it is again a leap year, which is why 2000
[34:20] was a leap year. But 19117 hundred and 1800 would
[34:24] 17118 hundred and 1900 would not have been leap years. 1600 would
[34:28] have been the last two zero ending year with a leap year in
[34:33] it. Yeah.
[34:34] Exactly. So if you want to know if a year
[34:36] is a leap year divided by 4, unless that year has two zeros
[34:42] at the end, in which case you have to divide it by 400 to know
[34:45] if it's a leap year. So 1900 was not a leap year.
[34:50] And Tokyo was supposed to be held in 2020, which was a loop
[34:54] year, but because of some minor inconvenience they decided to
[35:00] hold it the next year, 2021. I don't know what.
[35:03] Was up in 2020? Like what was the inconvenience
[35:05] in 20? 20.
[35:07] It's just. The big babies, something about
[35:11] maintaining distance and whatnot.
[35:13] Yeah, completely skips my mind. I have no idea what you're
[35:20] talking about. Yes, but yeah.
[35:21] OK, wow, good question. And honestly, I'm going to say
[35:24] to myself, good crack. Yes, it.
[35:26] Was it was a great crack. It was a great crack.
[35:28] I honestly thought I would have to give you a little few more
[35:31] cool clothes, but you got that right off the bat.
[35:34] OK, Very nice, very well done. So yours, I think next is the
[35:39] last question for this episode. All right, well, I had other
[35:44] questions, which makes me very excited for the next episode
[35:46] because I had questions I was really looking forward to
[35:48] asking, but it has turned out to be Olympics related.
[35:50] So I'm just going to ask Olympics related trivia.
[35:52] OK. And by the way, due credit, I've
[35:57] heard about a few of these when I was listening to some Olympics
[36:00] related podcasts, including the 99% Invisible, a podcast we have
[36:04] mentioned N number of times. So just consider this one more
[36:06] time. They did Olympics related a
[36:09] couple of episodes. So some of these trivia, I'm
[36:11] forgetting which ones now, but some of them were from that
[36:14] episode. So go check that out as well.
[36:15] But anyways, coming back to my piece of trivia, since you
[36:18] asked, I'm going to literally recreate your question in almost
[36:23] word to word format. Here's a list of two Olympics,
[36:26] and it's an exhaustive list. And this is going to.
[36:30] Be much? It's going to be much tougher
[36:32] than mine because it is very, very obscure piece of trivia.
[36:34] I think 1900 Olympics, again, the same one that you referred
[36:40] to, OK, the second Olympics ever, which is, by the way, at
[36:44] the 1900 World Fair. So in case our listeners didn't
[36:47] know, when the Olympics started, nobody knew how to treat this
[36:50] and what the big deal about it was.
[36:52] So they tried to do it in conjunction with the world fair.
[36:54] And if I'm not wrong, the 1900 Olympics, as opposed to the rest
[36:57] of the Olympics that have happened since then, was very
[36:59] long. It went on for a few months and
[37:02] Olympics usually ended in two weeks anyway.
[37:04] So 1900 Olympics, which was held at the 1900 World Fair is the
[37:08] first in that list and the 2nd in that list is the 1988 Seoul
[37:13] Olympics. So in 1988, the Olympics were in
[37:16] Seoul in South Korea. What was something that was
[37:20] common and exclusive only to these two Olympics?
[37:25] OK, so my first guess would be some sport which was only seen
[37:30] during the 1900 and the 88 Olympics.
[37:33] Interesting, I wonder if there has been any Olympic sport that
[37:37] was only a 2 Olympics that two that far apart.
[37:40] OK. It isn't.
[37:42] Quite the case, no? OK.
[37:44] I thought maybe it was golf or something like that.
[37:46] OK, So it's not the case. OK, Aha.
[37:53] This was this Pierre de Coubertia.
[37:56] I was in person in Paris and they used his ashes and Seoul or
[38:00] something. Interesting if you mentioned
[38:06] ashes, which is a very morbid mark of a kind of clue for this
[38:13] wait. What particular?
[38:14] Question. It isn't.
[38:15] It isn't the ashes of Pierre de Coboto at the 1988 solo
[38:20] Olympics, but it is ashes in some way, shape or form.
[38:24] Something through the Olympic flame, Olympic torch.
[38:28] Yeah, yeah, yeah. At the 1988 Olympics, it had
[38:30] something to do with the Olympic flame.
[38:32] Wait, I don't remember. See, the problem is my memory of
[38:36] the Olympics starts from the 1992 Olympics.
[38:39] I remember. I still remember.
[38:41] Like I was tiny. I was at six years old at the
[38:44] time, but I remember that guy, the Archer lighting the flame.
[38:47] That was one of the pallest things I've ever seen in any
[38:51] Olympics. Nobody's even come close to
[38:52] that. I don't know what happened to
[38:55] the EDD Olympics. So let's just say this is
[38:58] exactly that. This is the lighting of the
[39:00] cauldron, but at the 1988 Olympics.
[39:03] And it's not the same because in the 1900 Olympics it was a
[39:07] different, let's say root cause. In the 1988 it was the cauldron.
[39:12] And I'll give you this as a hint, if there was a young 6
[39:16] year old kid, the parents would be horrified that the kid
[39:20] happened to witness whatever they just witnessed.
[39:23] The Olympic cauldron burnt down, or the Olympic rings got fired
[39:27] and burnt down or something like that.
[39:29] I would say worse than that. I would say worse than.
[39:32] That, Oh my God, is it? Did somebody die?
[39:36] Not somebody. Something died like something.
[39:41] Wait, did they burn down a stadium or something?
[39:44] No, died. Died very literally died, so I'm
[39:47] not talking metaphorically. Died like a stadium burning
[39:49] down, is it? I'm guessing the.
[39:51] Killed some bird because the arrow was shot and they killed
[39:55] some bird. No, no, there's the arrow being
[39:57] shot. It was literally, and this was a
[39:59] lovely moment because it was, I believe, the first ever South
[40:03] Korean medal winner. And he was old at this point.
[40:05] And he was the last person with the Olympic torch.
[40:09] And he went up to the cauldron to light it up.
[40:11] And unfortunately, what he sees in the cauldron are a bunch of
[40:14] doves. That have just been released a
[40:16] while back as part of the opening ceremony.
[40:19] And they had. Trained for months, by the way,
[40:21] with these doves to make sure that they fly off in these
[40:23] patterns. But as doves do as they are
[40:26] warned to, they went and landed wherever they wanted to and some
[40:29] of them landed in the cauldron. Now this man is standing up
[40:33] there on the podium with this Olympic torch and just alone,
[40:36] like he had no idea because he had been told specifically that
[40:39] he had to do this. And it's not like he could.
[40:41] I guess he could have chosen not to.
[40:43] But I, I can sympathize with them also at being on that stage
[40:46] at that level. He was just like, I guess I just
[40:49] have to do this now. And he went ahead and lit the
[40:52] cauldron and a bunch of doves were killed immediately.
[40:55] I'm sorry for laughing. This is very sad.
[40:57] Any of those of our listeners who are animal lovers, I count
[41:00] myself as one of them, would be horrified at this.
[41:02] So it just happens to be one of those very dark humor kind of
[41:06] moment. So a bunch of doves had
[41:07] unknowingly landed in the cauldron and died.
[41:10] Wait, he. Couldn't have said shoe.
[41:13] Like he could just hold the torch and wave it for two
[41:15] seconds and they would fly off right?
[41:16] Doves are not like crows or something.
[41:19] They'll just they'll fly off. Like I've seen them fly off at
[41:22] the kind Like if a door opens in slow motion a dove will fly off.
[41:26] I've seen it in many John Woo movies.
[41:30] Slow motion doves is a John Woo thing, but but this is not the
[41:35] complete question because I asked you 1988 and 1900.
[41:38] So 1988, that's what happened. What happened at the 1900
[41:42] Olympics that makes this an exclusive list?
[41:45] OK, so. I'm going to guess it's also
[41:47] another case of AV side killing of birds.
[41:52] Yes, yes. So but then I'm guessing they
[41:55] would have used birds as the shooting targets or something
[41:58] like that. Brilliant.
[42:00] Perfect crack. Yes, live pigeons were used as
[42:03] targets in the shooting competition for the 1st and the
[42:06] only time at the games, and this was in the 1900 Olympics as I
[42:09] mentioned. And that makes it part of a very
[42:12] sad list of two Olympics. Thankfully, only two Olympics
[42:16] where birds were knowingly killed at the games, where in
[42:20] one case they were part of the shooting event and the other
[42:22] case this man just lit them on fire in the Olympic cauldron
[42:25] because he didn't know what else to do.
[42:26] The 2nd. Thing is so much worse the the
[42:29] South Korean guy is so much worse.
[42:31] Oh God, burnt feathers caught. So moving on from that AV side,
[42:38] that's all the time we have for our regular questions.
[42:40] Let's go back to our audience question which I had asked at
[42:42] the beginning of today's episode.
[42:44] Madhya Pradesh is the biggest tendu leaf producing state of
[42:48] India. Tendu leaves being the leaves of
[42:51] Diaspiros melon of Xylon. The average annual production is
[42:55] around 25,00,000. Standard bags, which is nearly
[42:58] 25% of the total, tend to lease production of the country.
[43:01] These leaves are used to make something very unhealthy but
[43:04] unfortunately very common in India.
[43:06] What am I talking about Aditya? Tend to leaves I and I made
[43:14] something which is very common. Is it pan?
[43:18] No. But something in the same realm.
[43:21] Because I actually don't know what the pan leaves are.
[43:23] Are they? Are they just called pan leaves?
[43:25] I also don't know. They're better leaves, Yeah.
[43:27] Oh. OK, that's fine.
[43:28] Fair enough. In the same realm.
[43:30] Oh, then is it like your, I guess BD?
[43:34] Yes. So these are used to make BD's.
[43:37] Now BD's, for those who don't know, are like country
[43:40] cigarettes. They are much slimmer, thinner
[43:43] and don't have very refined tobacco.
[43:45] They're wrapped in these tiny tender leaves.
[43:47] They're very cheap and are a common smoking item in the rural
[43:52] parts of India. The wide scale use of these
[43:55] tendo leaves is based on their enormous production, agreeable
[43:59] flavour, flexibility, resistance to decay and capacity to retain
[44:04] fires. All of this may be true, but I
[44:06] would have to disagree with agreeable flavour.
[44:09] Having tried a couple of PDS in my time, I have to tell you they
[44:13] are not anything close to having agreeable flavour.
[44:17] So that's the end of all the questions for today.
[44:20] Oh. I will.
[44:21] I will pause you there, Vineet, because I do have one last
[44:23] question. Let's not even call it a
[44:24] question. I'm just going to give it as a
[44:26] piece of trivia since you're done Olympics and we did very
[44:28] much this type of question. What would in 2028 Olympics and
[44:32] the 1900 Olympics? Seems like it's a recurring
[44:35] feature, part of an exclusive list of two Olympics only.
[44:39] OK. 1900. Olympics and 28, and this is
[44:42] basically an answer that you just gave.
[44:45] I would rewind it back as you said to me a while back.
[44:48] So I'll say it back to you. OK, now, now I have to remember
[44:51] what I said. Most of it is just, you know,
[44:53] stream of thought consciousness blabber.
[44:55] Ah, what did I say? What did I say?
[44:58] 1988 arrow. We were talking about the arrow
[45:01] of the fire. Then Pierre de Kubutano's ashes.
[45:05] You. Mentioned golf.
[45:07] Oh, golf, Golf is going to be there in the night 20.
[45:13] Not golf, but a sport that was last played at the 1900 Olympics
[45:17] is going to be there at the 2028 Olympics.
[45:19] Cricket. Cricket is.
[45:21] Making a comeback at the 2028 Olympics after 128 years?
[45:27] Yeah. It makes sense now that
[45:28] Americans know what cricket is. They finally figured it out and
[45:33] I guess they they are open to it.
[45:36] Take a guess as to who won the first ever Olympic.
[45:38] First and only ever Olympic medal so far.
[45:41] Gold medal for cricket. Vineet I.
[45:43] Would say I'll go with the obvious answer which is probably
[45:47] not correct, but England interestingly.
[45:49] Enough Great Britain, because in Olympics Great Britain
[45:52] participates in the one flag. So it's going to be interesting
[45:55] as two for the Olympics what they're going to do, how are
[45:57] they going to manage the fact that their cricket teams are all
[46:01] currently playing under England and Wales and Ireland and
[46:04] Scotland. And for Olympics they do it
[46:07] under the flag of Great Britain. So I have no idea.
[46:08] And the runner up was France. And there was, these are the
[46:11] only two teams participating. Nobody else participated.
[46:14] So, so. One match and they were done.
[46:16] That's it. Great Britain won by 158 runs
[46:19] and for whatever rules that were in place, if France had played
[46:22] for 5 minutes more, it would have been a drawer, it would
[46:24] have been a tie. So game is not on the chance of
[46:27] a shared gold medal there by 5 minutes.
[46:30] Interestingly enough, also, nobody is really keeping track
[46:32] of the scores or anything except one individual player who just
[46:36] managed to note it down on a piece of paper for his own
[46:39] keepsake. And that's how we still have a
[46:41] record of what happened at these Olympics in the cricket board.
[46:44] Because otherwise nobody is planning to score keep, or at
[46:46] least keep it in a way to preserve it.
[46:49] So. So India has a shot at more than
[46:52] one gold in 28, at least very. Nice.
[46:55] Very nice. All right.
[46:57] OK. So, Aditya, what's your pop
[46:59] culture recommendation? I will.
[47:01] Actually start with the the sports theme.
[47:03] Rather I would stick to the sports theme and I will
[47:06] recommend 2 movies. One is The Wrestler, a
[47:10] phenomenal movie. If you have, and I'm assuming
[47:13] some of you or a lot of you might have watched a Black Swan,
[47:17] check out The Wrestler. It almost feels like somehow a
[47:21] spiritual remake of of the same theme.
[47:24] It it talks about a lot of similar things and is also
[47:28] interesting enough short in a very similar way or or has
[47:32] similar sort of parallels in terms of short sequences and
[47:35] shooting style. So check out the wrestler.
[47:38] A very good movie. I would also recommend Fighter,
[47:41] but my favorite actually fighting movie is Warrior.
[47:45] I really, really like that movie.
[47:47] It's a movie. I've seen it a few times
[47:48] actually. It's a it's a movie that demands
[47:52] a rewatch, I would say, and makes.
[47:54] Grown men cry it made. Me cry.
[47:57] You are right Vineet, I cried copy some of tears because I was
[48:01] bawling by the end and don't want to give any spoilers but it
[48:04] is an emotional journey you'll be taken through.
[48:08] And as. Most movies do end with it's a
[48:10] showdown at the very end and it's I'd already mentioned it's
[48:12] a fighting movie, it's MMA fight movie.
[48:15] And you will probably not be able to guess who's going to
[48:19] win, which is which is rare for movies like this.
[48:22] Yeah, or, or you'll be kept guessing till the very end.
[48:24] So watch Warrior, a phenomenal film and also fighter and
[48:28] wrestler. Let's let me just clarify that
[48:31] he's talking about the Hollywood movie fighter, not the Indian
[48:35] movie fighter. OK, yes, please.
[48:39] That is a very good qualification because I did
[48:40] watch the Indian movie Fighter and for the most part it was a
[48:43] painful watch. It was just a painful watch.
[48:46] It was terrible. But the Hollywood movie Fighter,
[48:51] great movie. Check it out.
[48:52] And I'm going to recommend a book and take a departure from
[48:55] sports or well, you could call the sports of elections because
[48:59] this was a book by Akar Patel by the name of our Hindu Rashtra.
[49:03] It talks about the rise of RSS and also about how they'll
[49:07] Indian elections have been shaped by, I guess, religious
[49:11] tones and overtones over the years.
[49:13] So it's an interesting book regardless of your political
[49:16] ideology. I would suggest checking it out.
[49:18] It does open up some avenues of history that at least I was not
[49:21] aware of. And for that reason, I guess I
[49:23] could recommend it. So these are my pop culture
[49:25] recommendations for the day. Vineet, what are yours?
[49:30] So. My recommendation for this week
[49:34] is actually just going to be one TV show which I fairly well
[49:40] enjoyed, but I enjoyed the fact that I found a review which
[49:45] described it so succinctly that it's one of my favorite review
[49:50] headlines ever. So this show was described as
[49:53] Broadchurch if it was written by Enid Blyton.
[49:59] So the show is a good Girls guide to murder on Netflix, OK.
[50:03] Nice it. Stars Emma Myers, who you may
[50:07] remember as Jenna Ortega's Wednesday's best friend in the
[50:13] show Wednesday. She does a brilliant job.
[50:16] It's a fun series, 6 episodes, quick watch, fantastic.
[50:19] I would recommend it. It's a breezy watch nothing I
[50:22] don't know if it'll ever be like a great TV show, but it's a
[50:25] really good TV show which you can just enjoy on a Sunday,
[50:28] Sunday afternoon. So that's all the time we have
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