# Episode 057 - Volcanoes, Toyota & Racing

An episode of [Are You Quizzing Me?](https://invisiblenetwork.ai/podcast/1663104901), 23 Feb 2024, 53 min.

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Do you know what makes Plymouth, Montserrat unique among capitals? Do you know the name given to the war in the final phase of the Chadian-Libyan conflict which was derived from something used for mobility by the Chadian rebels? Do you know which automobile manufacturer has the number 23 on the side of its racing vehicles? Tune in to find out! You can reach us at Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/areyouquizzingme/ Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/areyouquizzingme Email: areyouquizzingme@gmail.com Subreddit: https://www.reddit.com/r/areyouquizzingme

## Transcript

[0:00] Welcome to Are you Quizzing Me? I am Vineet Nair with my Co host
[0:04] Aditya Kashyap. This is a quizzing trivia
[0:07] podcast show. Join us as we dive deep into
[0:10] history, science, pop culture, and so much more.
[0:14] Let's get quizzing. And we're back, ladies and
[0:19] gentlemen, for episode #57 of Are You Quizzing Me?
[0:23] Your Favorite Quizzing and Trivia podcast Show?
[0:27] Let's get down to our regular business.
[0:29] But first, I have a very good piece of news to announce to all
[0:34] our listeners. As it is said in the Bible, ask
[0:37] and ye shall receive. So last episode Aditya had in
[0:42] jest, a little bit of humor and half seriously.
[0:45] He mentioned that he would love it if there was a subreddit for
[0:48] something that we had created. And lo and behold, one of our
[0:53] listeners who has, shall hereby be known as St.
[0:58] Ashwin Mascareners, has created said subreddit.
[1:03] So now you can go to Reddit. R slash.
[1:06] Are you quizzing me? Is our own subreddit.
[1:11] So thank you St. Ashwin.
[1:13] You have done what Aditya had prayed for and for that you
[1:18] shall receive lots of thanks. And that's just about it.
[1:23] I don't think we can give anything else.
[1:25] As we said, this is a shoestring podcast, but you have our
[1:27] eternal tanks and the title of St.
[1:30] We could give Ashwin a shoe string.
[1:32] Maybe Ashwin. If your shoes are missing a
[1:34] string, let us know. We'll send you a shoe string.
[1:37] Let me just also mention that Ashwin Mascarinis is a doctor
[1:43] and quizzard and a swimmer. So I think a shoestring better
[1:48] giving him thanks because giving him is two thing but actually be
[1:51] an insult. But wow, I am so flattered and
[1:58] honored and grateful that somebody actually did that for
[2:02] us. Thank you Ashwin, so much.
[2:04] And you know what? I promise you this Ashwin.
[2:07] Maybe in a couple of years if are you quizzing me survives and
[2:10] if we ever launch a merchandise, we'll send you our first
[2:14] merchandise for free. Yes, token of thanks.
[2:17] Yes, remind us in 2020. Six, hopefully Touchwood will
[2:23] still be around. So, Aditya, let's get to your
[2:26] question from last week. So my question from last week
[2:30] was which construction or what thing has been constructed in
[2:34] India as a reference to a natural occurring feature of
[2:38] India. And here my response is ghat
[2:43] copper, which is from Western Ghats.
[2:47] And you know what? There's not even a joke, because
[2:49] the etymology of ghat copper is contested.
[2:52] And one of those theories is that it could generally be ghat
[2:55] ke upar. So you know what?
[2:58] This one is a freebie for our listeners.
[3:01] It is not the settled etymology. But I've heard that one of the
[3:05] possible reasons that ghat copper.
[3:07] By the way, sorry, I should clarify.
[3:09] Ghat Copper is a suburb in Mumbai.
[3:11] Ghat Copper, the suburb might be named because it was ghat ke
[3:14] Uber or on top of a ghat in Hindi.
[3:17] And ghats are the mountainous region or ranges along the coast
[3:23] of India. So a joke and possible trivia
[3:27] rolled into one my speciality. I think the term that
[3:31] everybody's looking for is. Anyway, thank you for that.
[3:37] Thank you for that. That is a surprisingly lucid
[3:40] answer from Aditya, given the time of night and the question.
[3:44] But thank you. Now let's get down to our
[3:47] regularly scheduled programming. I will start off with a question
[3:52] today again sent in by one of our regular listeners, Dhruvojit
[3:57] Bhattacharya. It's a excellent question.
[4:01] It was a complete til for me and so I'm hoping this will be atil
[4:05] for Aditya as well. But then you never know.
[4:07] This fellow has an annoying habit of knowing things he
[4:10] should not have any business knowing.
[4:12] So the question is as follows. Behind the closed doors of the
[4:17] Fatih Bene Frateli Hospital in Rome was a ward filled with
[4:23] patients being treated for syndrome K It was named as such
[4:28] to evoke cock syndrome Cock. Let me mention the spelling is
[4:33] Koch and not what your dirty mind is thinking right now.
[4:37] Cock syndrome is another name for tuberculosis and syndrome.
[4:41] K was supposed to be a new and unfamiliar disease in late 1943.
[4:47] It was supposed to instill fear in people who came looking for
[4:51] these patients who were told that it was a deadly,
[4:53] disfiguring and highly contagious illness.
[4:57] However, this disease did not actually consume any lives.
[5:02] In fact, it saved almost 20 lives.
[5:06] In typical Indian cuisine style, Aditya Put Funda or for our non
[5:14] Indian audience how did it save lives?
[5:17] This has to do with the Holocaust.
[5:20] I am so sorry, Dhruvajit, we'll have to do better next time to
[5:25] stump this fellow. But yes, for our audience.
[5:27] Can you please elaborate? I am a bit hazy on the
[5:32] specifics, but I remember reading this piece of trivia and
[5:36] I believe it was a hospital where some Jewish people were
[5:41] taking refuge and the doctors to make sure that the Nazis or the
[5:48] whatever, the Nazi police, whenever they came by or not
[5:52] able to get close to the patients or try to keep them
[5:55] away from the patients. They said that they were
[5:58] suffering from a very contagious disease, if I'm not wrong, and
[6:01] they named it syndrome K And the idea was that these people will
[6:06] survive as long as they're afraid of going close, to quote
[6:10] UN quote patients. Yes, it is.
[6:14] Annoyingly, Aditya is right almost on every aspect.
[6:18] Yes, Syndrome K was a disease which was made-up by the
[6:22] administrators and doctors of that particular hospital.
[6:25] It was purported to be a neurological illness whose
[6:27] symptoms included convulsions, dementia, paralysis and
[6:31] ultimately death. While the symptoms of the
[6:34] disease were deliberately kept ambiguous, the Nazis were noted
[6:38] to refrain from investigating the hospital or even to conduct
[6:41] searches for Jews on the premise out of fear of contracting the
[6:45] disease. Aditya, you have gotten that
[6:48] very quickly. And even though you did get it,
[6:51] it was a complete TIL for me. So Dhruvajit Bhattacharya, thank
[6:55] you so much and please stay good listener and next time send me a
[6:59] tougher question to post to this fellow, something a little more
[7:03] obscure that will, you know spend that that he can spend at
[7:06] least another 10 minutes on. But thank you for the question
[7:08] all the same. Thanks Urvijit.
[7:11] Also, Vineet, you just called him.
[7:13] Stay a good listener. Wait, what?
[7:15] Yeah. He sounded like a teacher
[7:19] moment. Yeah.
[7:20] Continue listening. Continue listening.
[7:22] Be good, boy. Good boy.
[7:24] Thank you, Dibaji. That is very kind of you.
[7:27] And yes, we would love more questions.
[7:29] Next time you could send me one and I'll ask.
[7:31] We need that. But regardless of who you send
[7:33] it to, thank you once again and our dear listeners, whoever else
[7:37] is listening, please go ahead and send a question if you find
[7:40] some fun trivia anywhere and we will definitely try to include
[7:44] it in our upcoming episodes. OK.
[7:47] So moving on to my question now. I'm Speaking of a famous singer
[7:52] who was often criticized for only being popular due to the
[7:57] abundance of beautiful dancing women in his music videos.
[8:03] The singer responded by creating a video that featured nobody but
[8:07] himself. That ended up becoming his most
[8:11] famous music video and also is probably one of his most famous
[8:14] tracks. Do you know which singer I'm
[8:18] talking about? And this track was released in
[8:21] 1998. So you said a lot of beautiful
[8:24] women in the video that honestly, even before you said
[8:29] the 90s, the first person that came to mind, I might be dating
[8:33] myself, but that came to mind was Ricky Martin.
[8:36] That is a very good guess, and the reason I phrased it as I did
[8:42] is because I think a lot of singers have probably been
[8:44] accused of a similar thing, that they're using just maybe
[8:48] beautiful women or scantily clad women to sort of get eyeballs
[8:52] onto their music videos. But in this case, we are talking
[8:56] about somebody else, not Ricky. Martin, not Ricky Martin, OK,
[8:59] Because I would have been very difficult.
[9:01] It would have been very difficult for me to remember one
[9:03] video of his where he appeared alone and he said the year was
[9:08] 90. 1998. 1998 It's not Shaggy, right?
[9:15] It is not Shaggy. And at this point I'm going to
[9:18] give you my first hint, which is This is an Indian singer.
[9:22] Oh. This is the.
[9:29] You are absolutely right. And is the song Yes.
[9:33] Do you remember what? Yeah, he had these computer
[9:37] generated backgrounds and he himself was like duplicated on
[9:40] three times on the screen or something that I remember the
[9:42] video. It was.
[9:43] It was weird to say the least. It went viral back in the day.
[9:49] He responded by creating a video that featured nobody but
[9:51] himself. The music video was the first of
[9:53] one of the first big basic videos made in India using blue
[9:57] screen technology, which was still kind of new back then, and
[10:00] this allowed the signal to superimpose his image over
[10:04] various computer generated backgrounds including the desert
[10:06] and mountain landscapes as well as St.
[10:09] Basil's Cathedral for some people.
[10:11] And there are multiple versions of the Lad Mandy, The Lad Mandy.
[10:16] I did not remember this part of his career where apparently all
[10:20] of his music videos had dancing women in them.
[10:23] But I love the fact that he responded with and he's like,
[10:26] I'm going to feature only myself in this.
[10:29] And it turned out to be one of his biggest hits and one of his
[10:32] most successful tracks of all. Time, you know, So what?
[10:35] The lesson that people should learn from that is the letter
[10:39] Mehndi was so potent that he had to dilute his appeal with so
[10:45] many women around him. Otherwise every video of his
[10:48] would have gone like, you know, multi platinum or whatever.
[10:51] He was saving us from his completely overwhelming charisma
[10:57] and personality. I also need to at this point
[11:00] mention that I went for a concert a couple of weekends ago
[11:05] and the LED Mandy was a closing act.
[11:07] So I saw the LED Mandy live on stage not that long ago.
[11:11] And you know what? It doesn't even matter because
[11:14] he's obviously much older now, so he has lost that level of.
[11:18] Mellowed a little bit. Yeah, a little bit.
[11:21] But my God, the audience made-up for it because he just needs to
[11:24] play any one of his tracks. And the audience just went
[11:28] bonkers and it was one track after the next.
[11:30] And I remember dancing to This is Evergreen.
[11:36] True. True.
[11:36] Very true. So let's go from Dalermandi to
[11:40] the other side of the world. Have you heard of the island of
[11:44] Montserrat? Yes, I have.
[11:46] OK. So that makes you very well read
[11:48] geographically. Plymouth is a town and the
[11:52] capital of Montserrat, which is an overseas territory of the
[11:56] United Kingdom and it's located in the Leeward Island chain in
[12:00] the Caribbean Sea. Plymouth is unique among
[12:04] capitals all around the world. Can you tell me what makes it so
[12:11] unique? I know there is volcanic
[12:14] activity that is common in this region or there has been
[12:19] volcanic activity that has been prominent in this region, but I
[12:23] don't know if that is close to the answer.
[12:24] Is it something to do with it is very close to volcano or
[12:27] something? No, there are a lot of capitals
[12:29] and cities which are close to volcanoes.
[12:31] Yeah, I'd imagine. OK, now give me a narrower scope
[12:35] then, because I'm OK. I have no.
[12:36] Idea Where to start? Let's see that this is with
[12:40] regards to population. Again, it can't be the case that
[12:43] it isn't the most populated city because there are so many.
[12:46] Other. Yeah.
[12:47] So many, so many cities, yeah. I doubt it's the fact that it's
[12:51] the smallest population for a capital city.
[12:53] Again, unlikely. Technically not wrong, but not
[12:58] right either. Interesting.
[13:00] Does it have 0 inhabitants or zero city residents because of
[13:06] some quirk in there or laws or something?
[13:10] Yes. OK, so let's put it this way.
[13:12] You are right on the fact that it has 0 inhabitants.
[13:18] And you're also right because the fact that there's zero
[13:21] inhabitants is because of its volcanic eruptions.
[13:25] This is the only ghost town which is the capital of a
[13:30] political entity and this happened roughly around 30 years
[13:33] ago. So beginning in July of 1995,
[13:37] there were a series of huge eruptions of the Sufra Hills
[13:41] volcano, which by the end of 1996 had made it extremely
[13:47] dangerous for people to live and areas nearest to the volcano
[13:51] were immediately evacuated by 1996 April.
[13:56] And Plymouth now remains a ghost town while still remain being
[14:00] the du Jour capital of the island of Mozzerat.
[14:06] So Aditya continues his annoying habit of answering my questions
[14:10] very easily and very quickly. Well, I bravely soldier and
[14:15] struggle on for 10 to 15 minutes at a time for a question to
[14:17] answer. You can see why audience you
[14:20] should be sending me the questions and not him.
[14:23] So please continue to send questions to me.
[14:26] I like how this is one thing that we keep fighting over.
[14:28] Who should receive the questions in case the audience members
[14:34] haven't clued into it. It makes our job slightly easier
[14:37] than when we yeah some questions.
[14:40] From an audience, yeah, and especially people like Arjun.
[14:42] Send me 3-4 questions at a time. My job is done for that week.
[14:47] And boy, are those great questions each and every single
[14:50] time. So yeah, either ways, where we
[14:52] send it to you are doing us a favour.
[14:54] And the reason, by the way, I know Plymouth and this
[14:57] particular piece of trivia is because it was part of a play
[14:59] script that I wrote once. Wait, what a while?
[15:02] Back and yeah, yeah, I have. I have written and staged a.
[15:06] Few. No, no.
[15:07] That is not surprising to me. I was wondering as to what plot
[15:11] did you have that included a volcano in Montserrat in the
[15:15] Caribbean Sea? That is what I'm interested.
[15:18] In it was it was a love story. It was a.
[15:24] Regular love story about two characters who are living in the
[15:27] United States of America and they're just taking a trip
[15:30] somewhere nearby. So they decide to fly to
[15:32] Plymouth because it is one of those underrated places to visit
[15:36] and I have not been there. But this was what my research
[15:38] showed up. So I did A and then I just went
[15:40] into a rabbit hole. There was no need to go into the
[15:42] rabbit hole. All I needed was the name of a
[15:44] place. And then I got very interested
[15:46] in Plymouth and Montserrat. So what was the play called?
[15:49] Let me guess, Love in the time of volcanoes?
[15:54] No, it was not called that. I actually never named it, but
[15:57] that is a great name. I'll, I'll take that into
[15:59] consideration. Yes.
[16:02] Or you can call it Vesuvius version 2.0.
[16:07] Yeah, true. That's not a bad name either.
[16:09] Yeah, don't be polite. That was a very that was a
[16:11] really bad name. I mean, I was going to make a
[16:15] pun. I was going to talk about I'm in
[16:16] lava with you. Oh, that's so much better.
[16:22] See, This is why he does stand up and improv and I sit in the
[16:28] lab behind a microscope. We all have our uses to society.
[16:33] You are clearly more useful. Let's move on to my question.
[16:39] OK. So since I did mention America,
[16:43] this has to do with an American person.
[16:46] A bank robber by the name of Willie Sutton was apparently
[16:53] once asked by a reporter as to why he robbed banks.
[16:57] And Willie Sutton replied by saying, because that's where the
[17:01] money is. Do you know what legacy this
[17:05] particular response has left In a bunch of fields, and not
[17:10] necessarily, and in fact not even in the field of crime, but
[17:15] in computer programming, in medicine, a lot of these spaces.
[17:19] What legacy did this particular response leave?
[17:22] I have heard this thing about Willie Sutton.
[17:25] I mean, like at least the line that that's where the money is,
[17:28] but what legacy did it leave? Wow, Is it got to do with the
[17:32] computer error code or something?
[17:35] No, it's a lot broader than that.
[17:37] A lot broader than that, OK. You said it's not to do with
[17:40] crime, so then I'm guessing it's not anything to do with the
[17:43] corporate security or security measures or security alarms or
[17:47] anything of that sort. No, you said medicine as well,
[17:52] OK. Yes, I did and I'll tell you
[17:54] something slightly more specific.
[17:56] It is to do with any process which requires diagnosis.
[17:59] So when I said computer programming, it like when you
[18:02] have to debug a computer program diagnosis in a medical sense as
[18:05] well. Wait, is this the modern version
[18:08] of Occam's razor? You.
[18:10] Want to clarify that a little bit more.
[18:12] OK, so Occam's razor says that the the solution which takes the
[18:16] least number of assumptions is usually the right one.
[18:19] I'm oversimplifying the thing, but.
[18:21] OK, so I'll give this to you. You are very close and my next
[18:25] clue was going to perhaps get you very close to it.
[18:28] I'll give you the clue, in fact, because it's a really fun OK
[18:31] Theodore Woodward was a professor at the University of
[18:34] Maryland in the US, and he instructed his medical interns
[18:39] with this one particular line. When you hear who beats.
[18:43] Think horses, not zebras. Don't expect to see a zebra,
[18:46] exactly. Think horses, not zebra, which
[18:49] is what leads to the term zebra in medicine, which is the
[18:53] American Medical slang for a surprising, often exotic medical
[18:57] diagnosis when a more commonplace explanation is more
[19:01] likely. So if somebody says something as
[19:04] a possible 'cause for a disease which is super exotic as opposed
[19:09] to maybe something as common place as like a Common Core, I
[19:10] don't know, then that would be a zebra.
[19:13] I'm sure Vineet, you can perhaps explain this better.
[19:15] Occam's razor is very close as well.
[19:17] Occam's razor. Let me just also expound on that
[19:20] briefly is the problem solving principle that recommends
[19:24] searching for explanations constructed with the smallest
[19:26] possible set of elements. So that talks about how many
[19:29] assumptions you have to make the zebra or the answer to the
[19:33] question which is Sutton's law. The Willy Sutton was the name of
[19:37] the bank robber. It's called the Sutton's Law.
[19:40] It stays that when diagnosing, one should first consider the
[19:43] obvious. That is, very Simply put,
[19:45] Sutton's. Law and also the.
[19:47] Zebra. American Medical slang.
[19:49] So that's why I asked you this specifically, because I was
[19:51] going to bring up the zebra thing and I'm pretty sure you
[19:53] would have cracked it, but you already knew.
[19:55] So I was correct in that way. Have you watched the TV show
[19:59] House? Yes, it's every every episode is
[20:03] a zebra, basically. And not even a zebra.
[20:06] It's every every episode of House is like a genetically
[20:09] cloned and enhanced zebra in the wild.
[20:14] In house on the wiki, the wiki for house that has been made,
[20:18] you can see for every episode it says something called zebra
[20:21] factor and it rated from a scale of one to 10 on basically how
[20:25] exotic and unlikely this particular diagnosis that House
[20:29] MD came up with was. So there are some episodes which
[20:32] have a 10 zebra factor because it is just basically impossible.
[20:35] I remember one of the episodes that got that was smallpox was
[20:39] one of the diagnosis that they came up with.
[20:41] And the idea was that, oh, smallpox is eradicated,
[20:44] obviously in the wild. But this particular person,
[20:47] while diving into the sea, broke a bottle which had been sealed
[20:52] with a ship that had went down like 300 years ago.
[20:54] So there was some smallpox virus still alive in it or something
[20:58] like that. And that's how this particular
[21:01] person might have contracted smallpox.
[21:03] That's the fun little piece of trivia that is associated with
[21:05] medicine, with computer programming, and with the TV
[21:09] show House Tutton's Law or Zebra.
[21:13] Nice. Also the thing with the house is
[21:16] there are certain episodes where it looks like a zebra to a
[21:22] western population or AUS trained Dr. but it's a horse to
[21:26] an Indian doctor because there are there are certain conditions
[21:30] which they just do not come to their mind first because they
[21:34] hardly ever see it but we see on a regular basis.
[21:38] I think the one episode there was tuberculosis which again I
[21:43] haven't seen house in almost a decade.
[21:44] But I remember there was an episode something where the
[21:47] answer was tuberculosis. And that's like a differential
[21:50] diagnosis of almost every Indian Dr. keeps in the back of their
[21:52] mind because tuberculosis can affect practically every part of
[21:56] your body, something that we are all taught of in 3rd year MBBS.
[22:01] There are a couple of them. Obviously most of the 99.99% of
[22:04] things you see now you would be lucky to see once or twice in
[22:07] your career. And that's if you practice in a
[22:10] place where you see thousands of patients.
[22:12] But otherwise, most of the things are just chapters in
[22:17] medical textbooks. So zebras.
[22:21] I don't mean to be an ass about this Vineet because I'm not the
[22:26] medical professional you are. But I'm pretty sure third year
[22:29] of MBBS you learn jadoo Ki jappi and not preeclampsia.
[22:35] So I I don't know, maybe you've forgotten your medical training,
[22:38] but I just, I hate to correct you on this, but that's what you
[22:41] learn in 3rd year MBBS. You know, I hate Raju Hirani for
[22:45] that movie. Like, it's an entertaining
[22:47] movie, but the way it misrepresents the medical
[22:50] profession is just criminal. Yeah, don't all of you just wait
[22:56] for people to fill out forms before you save their lives?
[22:58] Yeah, yeah, yeah, definitely, definitely.
[23:00] Like, the patient will be coming in with a stab wound or they'll
[23:02] be bleeding on the floor and will be like, no, no, no, you
[23:05] have to get it. You have to get it.
[23:06] Otherwise we won't touch you. Yeah.
[23:08] And that's exactly how things work.
[23:09] Oh. In case you did not pick up on
[23:13] that, that was Vineeth Nair's sarcasm.
[23:16] He is very offended. I would also like to add that is
[23:21] Vineeth's view entirely. If you're listening to this
[23:24] podcast, please cast me in your next movie.
[23:27] I love your movies. Really.
[23:29] Even Donkey Vineeth? I'm an actor.
[23:31] Please don't. Sit on my work.
[23:38] OK, honestly, Donkey's release on Netflix was the quietest
[23:43] Shahrukh release in the history of mankind.
[23:46] I don't think anybody even knew that it was out on Netflix until
[23:49] we just open up and suddenly, wait, Donkey's back on Netflix
[23:52] I. Don't know Vineet?
[23:54] We are very popular as a podcast.
[23:55] Please don't make this controversial opinions.
[23:57] We have a subreddit now. Yeah, take.
[24:01] I'm going to keep quiet. Laju Kirani, you're great.
[24:06] Donkey is a beautiful movie, so convincing.
[24:13] OK, so let me move on to my question little closer to home.
[24:18] There were widespread protests against this 2023 film in Nepal
[24:23] due to a single line of dialogue.
[24:26] Even though the Nepal Censor Board cleared the film for
[24:29] release, after cutting the line, the film was banned.
[24:32] Fearing the breakout of a law and order situation, this was
[24:36] eventually overturned by the courts and the film was allowed
[24:39] to release. Which film was this and what was
[24:45] the reason for all this hullabaloo?
[24:47] Sorry, which year did you mention?
[24:49] 2023 last year in Nepal? In Nepal, yes.
[24:54] No idea. I need a little bit more of a
[24:56] hint. It was a big movie.
[24:59] That's my hint. 2023 Brahmastra was not 2023 right?
[25:04] Wait, my, my my internal clock is all screwed up but I get
[25:07] Pramaster released in 2023. What, Oh, then is it Brahmaster?
[25:10] No, it's not Brahmaster. Oh, you misleading person, you.
[25:18] But wait, first question again. This is a question I must ask.
[25:22] Why are you assuming it's an Indian movie?
[25:24] Oh, I just assumed there might have been something
[25:26] controversial in terms of, I don't know, religious sentiments
[25:30] being hurt and stuff like that. Indian movie felt like a decent
[25:34] guess, but now I assume it's not an Indian movie.
[25:36] Unless you're just saying this, throw me off the scent.
[25:39] Who knows? Who knows?
[25:44] You know who knows what lies in the hearts of men?
[25:48] OK. All right, then I'll ask for a
[25:51] clue. Is it an Indian movie?
[25:52] Yes, it is an Indian. Movie.
[25:56] What a wasted OK, are we talking a Hindi film?
[26:04] Is it a Bollywood film? Yes, no.
[26:07] Technically, I think it'll be called a pan Indian film because
[26:09] it released in multiple languages.
[26:11] Did it have anything to do with maps and misrepresentation of
[26:15] the land borders or something along those lines?
[26:18] No, I don't think we have that problem with Nepal.
[26:20] Yeah, we don't. And the last Indian movie to
[26:23] feature a map, I think was Naksha, which I was hoping would
[26:26] be some Indiana Jones esque thing, but turned out to be,
[26:32] let's say, a steaming pile of excrement.
[26:35] Now don't tell me, don't say that because the director of
[26:38] Naksha will not give you a job. Director of Naksha Whoever you
[26:43] are, please know that this is Please cast me in the next movie
[26:47] also as well as I'm working on Rajviraj.
[26:49] In which case? OK, so it doesn't.
[26:55] It doesn't have anything to do with borders.
[26:58] Are we talking then? Religious sentiments being hurt
[27:00] somehow? Yes, OK.
[27:02] Because I remember there was some news about this.
[27:04] I didn't remember this in the context of a film.
[27:06] There was something about the Ramayan and where was the
[27:12] Kingdom of, I believe, Sita's father and all of those things.
[27:18] Does it have anything to do with that?
[27:20] OK, if that were true, which would this film be?
[27:24] Oh, what film dealt with the Ramayan?
[27:27] I have no clue which Hindi film dealt with the Ramayan.
[27:30] Oh my God. OK, let me just give you a clue.
[27:34] This was also OK. I don't want to say anything
[27:37] that will cost me trouble later, but this movie was not ideal in
[27:43] its representation of the ramen due to a lot of Tupperi
[27:46] dialogues and whatnot. Oh, I remember this.
[27:50] Yes, there was some modern reimagining or something like
[27:54] that. Oh God, I do.
[27:58] It's oh, it's right at the edge. I can't.
[28:00] I can't. Prabhas.
[28:02] Kriti Sanon. Excellent logo.
[28:06] Horrible movie. Excellent logo.
[28:11] At least the pre release logo was great, but then.
[28:15] Liger. No, the Liger.
[28:22] Was that the Arjun Reddy fellow? What's his name?
[28:26] Now I've forgotten names. Vijay.
[28:28] Vijay Devkonda. Yeah.
[28:30] Vijay Devarakonda. Prabhas Kriti.
[28:33] Sanon Saif Ali Khan. Put me out of my misery, man.
[28:38] I've forgotten it entirely. OK, you are lucky because a lot
[28:41] of us want to scrub it out of our brains and we're not able
[28:43] to. The movie is Adi Purush.
[28:47] That is the one, yes. So in the movie, Sita is
[28:51] described as the daughter of India.
[28:53] However, the Nepalese believe that Sita, also known as Janaki,
[28:58] was from Janakpur in Nepal. Right.
[29:02] Yeah, that was the context. You're right, you got the answer
[29:05] right. But then, no, I love to torture
[29:08] you so. Cool.
[29:11] All right. That was a fun question and a
[29:13] good reminder of something that happened last year.
[29:18] And that brings me to my question, because I want to ask
[29:21] you something about films as well.
[29:23] OK. Now, because you're a movie
[29:26] buff, I would imagine you would know this trivia, but maybe you
[29:31] don't. This particular individual and
[29:35] I'll tell you the name as well. But for now, this person, he was
[29:39] driving with a bunch of friends and was in the southern part of
[29:43] Italy. He was driving into Rome and he
[29:47] was on a particular highway. And he remembered looking at the
[29:50] name of the highway and thinking, wow, this would be a
[29:53] great name. What did he end up naming?
[29:57] This has to do with the world of Hollywood.
[29:59] When he started with driving and Italy, my mind had went on to
[30:05] Roman Holiday Gregory Peck. But I'm guessing it's nothing to
[30:08] do with that because you said it is named after something which
[30:11] is a highway in Italy. OK, so much more recent than
[30:15] Roman Holiday. I'll tell you whatever was
[30:19] named, was named in 2012, and I'll give you the person as
[30:22] well. His name is Daniel Katz.
[30:24] Daniel Katz, Katz Katz. Daniel Katz What did Daniel Katz
[30:32] name, 2012. OK, so Daniel Katz, David Fenkel
[30:38] and John Hodges founded a company in 2012 and they named
[30:43] it after this particular Italian highway.
[30:47] What company am I talking about? Finkle The name sounds very
[30:51] familiar. Is it like a special FX company?
[30:54] Is it like one of those CGI special FX companies?
[30:57] No, it's an independent entertainment company.
[31:01] Oh, I know this. Oh God, I I should have gotten
[31:03] this earlier. It's a 24.
[31:06] It's a 24. It is a 24.
[31:08] It is a 24. You are absolutely right.
[31:11] My next clue was going to be that they completely owned the
[31:14] last Oscars. No, no, at the moment I should
[31:17] have gotten that because I remember thinking that a 24
[31:21] there could be a highway in the UK because the UK has the M1 and
[31:24] the M2 and whatnot. So then I kept thinking that,
[31:27] you know, the A 24 could be a, you know, a highway in the UK
[31:31] and that first, until I heard that last clue, it just did not
[31:35] click. Well, you got it very quickly,
[31:37] so I'll still give you props for that.
[31:40] A 24, for anybody who might not know, is a film distribution and
[31:43] production company based in film and television, based in the US
[31:48] They have made some fantastic films in the last couple of
[31:51] years. It's very new, but they've made
[31:53] some very good films the last couple of years, some very bad
[31:55] films as well. But last year at the Oscars,
[31:58] everything, everywhere, all at once dominated the Oscars and it
[32:02] was distributed by a 24. So A 24 has kind of developed
[32:06] this identity of being a distribution company that backs
[32:10] some really wild and really quirky projects which are
[32:15] sometimes extremely successful both critically and financially.
[32:18] I think Moonlight was also distributed by 824 right?
[32:21] Moonlight. Moonlight was by them, Room was
[32:25] by them, Ex Machina was by them. No, yes, yes.
[32:28] But Ex Machina, I think they were, they only distributed.
[32:30] Ex Machina was already a a project which was ready, but
[32:33] yeah, yes. You're right, you're right.
[32:36] They have distributed these films but done really well.
[32:39] They in terms of TV shows or other web series, they made beef
[32:43] which came out on Netflix and also won quite a few awards.
[32:46] So yeah, they have had some very famous names associated with
[32:50] them which is the Daniels Darren Aronofsky.
[32:53] So some of Darren Aronofsky's films have been through a 24
[32:56] adiaster. A lot of adiasters films have
[32:59] been through a 24 Robert Eggers. Some really up and coming names
[33:03] in film in Hollywood have been associated with a 24, so they
[33:09] have developed quite the reputation and deservedly so if
[33:13] I may say so myself. Yeah, because a lot of people
[33:16] now, the moment they hear it's, it's kind of become this thing
[33:19] where if it's an A 24 movie, it has to be good.
[33:23] And one thing I like about them, their logo is different in every
[33:28] movie. So if you take something like
[33:31] Miramax or New Line cinemas or Paramount or whichever these big
[33:36] production houses or distribution houses, they always
[33:38] have the same logo that comes, you know, every time exactly the
[33:42] same. So most of the time you remember
[33:44] that logo and you associate that with that particular house.
[33:48] But a 24? The only thing that remains
[33:51] constant is the fact that it spells out a 24 every movie,
[33:54] depending upon the aesthetic of the movie, depending upon what
[33:58] subject matter it has the logo, the formation of the logo and
[34:02] the style of the logo changes. So they don't have like 1
[34:05] particular logo that they use. Obviously they have a corporate
[34:08] logo, but in the movies, if you check out every movie has every
[34:12] 824 movie has a different style for the logo.
[34:16] It's pretty cool, yeah. They have a penchant for really
[34:20] supporting the director's vision wholeheartedly so.
[34:25] OK, so my question is regarding war.
[34:31] What is it good for? So this war as an X war, X being
[34:37] the name that's given to this war, took place in 1987 in
[34:43] northern Chad on the Chad Libya border.
[34:46] It was the last phase of the Chadian Libyan conflict and it
[34:52] takes its name from something used by the Chadian troops for
[34:56] mobility as they fought against the Libyans.
[34:58] The war resulted in a heavy defeat for Libya, which
[35:02] according to American sources lost 110th of its army, with
[35:06] 7500 men killed and $1.5 billion worth of military equipment
[35:13] destroyed or captured. On the other side, Chadian
[35:16] forces suffered only 1000 deaths.
[35:19] So what is the name that's given to this particular war?
[35:22] I do not have much knowledge of war between Chad and Libya.
[35:28] There's a specific name that was given to this war.
[35:30] Yes. No idea at all.
[35:33] OK, first clue which is quite obscure, is that it this name
[35:39] started off initially as a family name, like it's still the
[35:42] name of a family, but it's now famous for some other reasons.
[35:47] A family which is known for being from Chad or Libya.
[35:51] No, Nowhere even close. So no other African nation
[35:55] either? No.
[35:56] OK, because I was going to get De Beers or something.
[35:58] No, no. All right.
[36:00] No. I wouldn't be surprised if they
[36:01] ever sponsored a conflict. I'm.
[36:04] Pretty sure they would have. I'm just going to say this on
[36:06] the borderline and say it. I wouldn't be surprised.
[36:11] Is it an American family? No.
[36:13] Oh, how interesting. What other global players then
[36:18] I'd have to ask? Is it an Indian family?
[36:21] No. Interesting.
[36:22] So that clue doesn't really help me.
[36:25] Give me some other clue if you can.
[36:27] OK, so the clue again, I'm the part of the question.
[36:29] I'll repeat part of the question.
[36:31] The name of the war takes its name from something used by
[36:34] Chadian troops for mobility as they fought against the Libyans.
[36:39] Mobility. Or is it like some sort of a
[36:42] tank or something? No.
[36:44] Tank or like an armored vehicle or something like that.
[36:47] No. Follow that thought through to
[36:49] its conclusion, to its logical conclusion.
[36:52] Tank armored vehicle. The next thing I was going to
[36:54] suggest was helicopters. No colder.
[36:58] Planes. Much colder.
[37:00] OK. But you're on the right line of
[37:02] thought. I'm I'm going to embarrass
[37:04] myself. I'm not even sure if Chad has a
[37:06] coast, so I'm not sure if Chad would have a Navy.
[37:13] No, nothing. Cold, cold.
[37:14] Very cold. Ice cold.
[37:17] OK, so not Navy either. Wait.
[37:19] Not tank. Not armored vehicle, Nothing in
[37:23] the air, Nothing on sea, mobility or shoes.
[37:29] Yes, you're right, it is the Adidas family.
[37:32] Adidas. Yeah, I was going to say the
[37:33] Dustler family. Wow.
[37:37] No, I have no clue. You are again still in the right
[37:40] line of thought. So my question would be if it is
[37:43] not tanks and if it's not an armored vehicle or an APC or
[37:47] armored personnel carrier, what else?
[37:51] I don't know what other vehicles are used in war.
[37:54] OK, my next clue to you would be to think of a terrorist related
[38:01] fact that I had given you and you refused to believe it at
[38:05] first. You thought I was joking?
[38:08] Terrorist related fact. Is it the fact that ISIS has a
[38:12] specific kind of car? Yes.
[38:15] So which car are we talking about?
[38:16] I? Want to say Land Cruiser?
[38:20] So the company name or the family name would be.
[38:23] Is it Toyota? Yeah, OK.
[38:25] It's called the Toyota War. Wow.
[38:30] I'm not even kidding. I'm not even kidding.
[38:33] It's called the Toyota War, also known as the Great Toyota War.
[38:36] Or in Arabic, it's known as Harb Al Toyota.
[38:41] In French it's called Gear of the Toyota.
[38:44] So it takes its name from the Toyota pickup trucks, primarily
[38:49] the Toyota Hilux and the Toyota Land Cruiser, which were used to
[38:53] provide mobility by this for the Chadian troops as they fought
[38:56] against the Libyans and these were provided by the French to
[39:02] the Chadian rebels. I'm pretty sure that does not
[39:05] make for good PR for Toyota, but.
[39:07] No, but that's the thing. I mean like you had Libya with
[39:10] tanks and things like that and then you had these people with
[39:13] Toyotas and basically anti aircraft and other things just
[39:18] put on the flatbed of the Hilux and whatnot.
[39:21] And then they managed to inflict $1.5 billion worth of damage to
[39:25] the Libyans and 7500 casualties, while only suffering 1000
[39:30] casualties. I don't think there's a better
[39:33] commercial for this. The world isn't as dark as you
[39:36] think it is, Vineet. I don't think they're going to
[39:39] put out the fact that they're really good war vehicles as
[39:42] advertisement campaign and everybody else will lap it up
[39:45] happily, because I think that just might affect the brand
[39:48] image. But hey, I get your point.
[39:50] I get your point that if I was ever in a war, I would choose a
[39:53] Toyota. Yes, a Toyota Hilux.
[39:56] I did hope I never have to reach that point, but if I ever do,
[40:00] beneath, I will keep your words fresh in my memory.
[40:06] The preferred vehicle of terrorists and rebels
[40:08] everywhere, the Toyota Hilux. OK, I'm going to ask something
[40:15] later to cars as well, since you did bring up the Toyota.
[40:18] OK. Which car brand often has the
[40:22] number 23 printed on its race cars?
[40:26] Ford. No.
[40:28] Ferrari. You know, you know where I'm
[40:30] going with this, right? I'm just going to name every
[40:32] card manufacturer right now. The next one's going to be
[40:35] Lotus. The only started with Ford like
[40:37] F not even like Audi that you could go alphabetic.
[40:40] You just start with F Ford and Ferrari.
[40:43] No, the, the first car I can remember, like I have this, the
[40:46] picture that the Ford GT at the limo race in the 19, 60s, I want
[40:52] to say so where they won three in a row.
[40:55] Like I have that kind of image of the 3/4 crossing the finish
[40:58] line. And I remember the numbers on
[41:01] the side. So that's why it's in my So the
[41:03] first four came out first. OK.
[41:06] Any #23 any particular. OK.
[41:10] Obviously you're not going to tell me what the significance of
[41:12] that number is, because that would probably give away the
[41:14] answer. You are right.
[41:15] Yeah, quite literally give away the answer quite.
[41:18] Literally give you the answer. Quite literally give away the
[41:22] answer. Now I'm stuck on that.
[41:24] I would suggest moving past that and you it'll make sense later,
[41:27] but. OK, not immediately.
[41:29] I doubt you're going to reach. Yeah, yeah, I doubt you're going
[41:31] to reach the answer. Why?
[41:32] Is this this is a Grand Prix or a like a racing car version?
[41:38] They have had touring cars, they have had endurance races or AGT,
[41:43] so they have had multiple types of races.
[41:45] But not F1. No, they have not been in F1.
[41:49] That eliminates a lot. So that throws out Ferrari.
[41:53] It throws out Lotus, Porsche, a lot of people.
[41:59] Who's left 23? If you are a racing enthusiast,
[42:03] they might know that they won the 24 Hours Daytona in 1992,
[42:07] they dominated the 1999 British Touring Car Championship and all
[42:12] of these cars, by the way, had the 23 number on it.
[42:15] My racing thing is limited to what I watch in Top Gear.
[42:19] That's it. The old Top Gear, by the way, I
[42:22] do not approve of the new Top Gear as far as I'm concerned.
[42:26] Once again, Director, Second Director of the new Top Gear.
[42:30] I'm available to feature on the show as being representative of
[42:36] mine as well. Thank you.
[42:37] Where is Jeremy Clarkson when you need him?
[42:39] Nope. Dude, I need.
[42:40] I need something else here. This will probably be a clue
[42:43] that will give away the answer, but let me I'll help you out
[42:47] anyways. And this is basically, let's go
[42:50] back to the previous question and the previous car brand and
[42:55] where are they from? They're from Japan, so this is
[42:58] what Honda? No.
[43:00] Mitsubishi. No.
[43:04] Toyota. It's not Toyota, obviously.
[43:06] OK, so it's not Toyota, It's not Honda, it's not Mitsubishi.
[43:10] Japanese car manufacturers. Hyundai is South Korean.
[43:15] So is Kia. Daewoo is also South Korean.
[43:19] Whoa, am I missing somebody big? I must be missing somebody big.
[43:24] It is a well known car brand, yeah.
[43:27] Are you going to be technical and say Lexus?
[43:29] But Lexus is owned by Toyota? No.
[43:31] No, it is a car brand which is entirely Japanese and not like a
[43:37] subsidiary or anything. I am blanking like anything
[43:41] right now. 6th largest automaker in the world after Toyota,
[43:46] Second Group, Hyundai, oh God, General Motors and.
[43:49] I'm having my Adipurush moment oh sixth largest.
[43:56] To be fair, this list is also from 2017, so that list might
[43:58] have changed slightly, but definitely a very well known
[44:01] brand. Oh God, are the are cars
[44:04] manufactured by this particular manufacturer available in India?
[44:07] Last clue. Yes, they are.
[44:10] OK, my apologies in advance to the many, many listeners who are
[44:13] right now cursing me and screaming at your listening
[44:17] devices or your car radio or stereo, whatever.
[44:22] But I am absolutely blanking right now.
[44:26] My mind is fixated on Toyota and Honda.
[44:28] One last clue, Vineet. OK, so let's go back to the clue
[44:32] that actually was the first clue.
[44:34] And I said quite literally, give the name away.
[44:37] And the reason I said is because 20-3 or two, three in Japanese
[44:42] would be the name of this company. 2-3 in Japanese.
[44:45] What numbers in Japanese, yeah. 2-3 in Japanese is the name of
[44:51] this car manufacturer cord. Now even people who do not
[44:58] follow cars but maybe follow anime or manga are.
[45:00] Again, I do not follow manga. I follow translated versions of
[45:04] manga. I don't listen to the original 1
[45:07] and that to anime. Very few.
[45:08] Translated translated versions of anime?
[45:11] Yeah, and not listen to the original ones.
[45:14] So are you a person who does dubs over Subs?
[45:17] Because that is. No, I do.
[45:18] I do Subs for movies but not for anime because the animation
[45:23] itself is distracting in itself. All right at this.
[45:26] Point I guess I have to give you the answer.
[45:28] You'll have to give you the answer and just wait for me to
[45:29] commit sepuku or hierarchy right now.
[45:34] Number one in Japanese is itchy, #2 in Japanese is me and #3.
[45:40] In oh God, Nissan. Oh God.
[45:44] Nissan, Nissan, Nissan. Yes, yes I must now in the name
[45:50] of honor commit seppuku. Oh God, I'm sorry dear audience,
[45:56] especially those listening who are right now just furious that
[46:00] it took me this long. But in my defence it is 135 in
[46:05] the morning and hey, Aditya had Adipurusha as well.
[46:10] So I I there's nothing to go. But.
[46:14] Adipurusha and Aditya share like letters in common Nissan and you
[46:18] only share one. Oh God.
[46:24] But yeah, OK so Nissan 23, OK 23, They have a racing.
[46:29] I wasn't to be honest, I'm not a big fan follower of racing.
[46:33] As I mentioned, mine is limited to Top Gear, but I did not know
[46:36] that Nissan cars. I mean like yeah, Nissan Nissan
[46:39] cars are modified quite a bit. They in the Mod car market they
[46:43] are modified quite a bit. So I'm guessing I I should have
[46:45] guessed that well. You now know something new.
[46:50] Yes. Nissan.
[46:52] Nissan. And you can remember Japanese
[46:54] numbers also now. Yeah, Nissan, I just heard this
[46:58] other piece of trivia recently. I'm not planning to put into
[47:00] questions, so I just might as well say when you go to Japanese
[47:04] airports, you might know this. You've visited Japan.
[47:06] When you go to Japanese airports, there is an
[47:09] instruction, a three word thing that comes in English and
[47:13] there's a Japanese translation that's a Japanese version of the
[47:15] same thing, but they're both different.
[47:17] The meanings of both are different.
[47:20] It's the same thing intended for all the people exiting and
[47:23] exiting the plane and entering Japan, right?
[47:26] 3 words in English and I think maybe like one word in Japan,
[47:30] Japanese. But the meaning is completely
[47:32] different. It's not like a proper
[47:33] translation. So you if you're Japanese and
[47:36] you read it, you will get one meaning, and if you're English
[47:39] and you read the English version, you'll get another
[47:40] meaning. Like do you mean like literally?
[47:43] Both of them mean something differently.
[47:44] Yes, literally means something differently.
[47:47] But metaphorically are the same thing, Something like.
[47:48] That the purpose is the same but the meaning is different.
[47:52] Welcome to Japan or? Yes, So that's exactly what the
[47:56] English version reads. Welcome to Japan.
[47:58] OK, you know what the Japanese version read?
[48:01] I don't remember the Japanese word, but the Japanese version
[48:04] translates to Welcome back. Oh, OK, that's that's smart.
[48:08] That's nice. Yeah, very cool.
[48:11] Oh, that. That is so lovely because I feel
[48:13] like every country could do that.
[48:14] Yeah, in the local language. Just write.
[48:17] Welcome back. And in any other language, say
[48:19] welcome to wherever they're coming.
[48:21] Yeah, nice. Very nice.
[48:22] Very nice. So I think that's all the time
[48:24] we have for our regular questions today.
[48:27] Aditya, what's your question for next week?
[48:31] Somebody suggested that we can ask questions not about India in
[48:34] this particular segment. You know who you are.
[48:39] So what is it that American airports should write when
[48:43] people come into the country? OK, as a Welcome to America
[48:48] message, but not quite that. OK, nice, nice.
[48:54] Aditya. What's your pop culture
[48:55] recommendation for this week? OK, so I have, as I usually do
[48:59] during Oscar season, gone on Oscar binge.
[49:02] I'm quite the film snob, the insufferable friend of the group
[49:06] who will tell you that he has worked on the fancy films.
[49:08] Yes. So I have recently started
[49:11] watching all of those available in India in the theaters and I
[49:16] must say the holdovers turned out to be quite the delight to
[49:19] watch. So Paul Giamatti as always a
[49:23] very reliable, very lovely, wonderful actor to watch and he
[49:27] does a great job in this movie as well.
[49:28] So check out the holdovers. I also had the chance to watch
[49:32] monster, phenomenal film. It really takes its time to get
[49:38] going, or rather to make sense, but once it does it, it's just
[49:42] beautiful. So I would suggest checking out
[49:45] Monster. And yeah, those are the two film
[49:49] recommendations for this week. My recommendation is a podcast,
[49:53] which frankly does not need any recommendation because it's
[49:57] already quite insanely popular and many of you may already have
[50:00] heard it. But I like the fact that they
[50:02] release an episode maybe once every one to two months, but
[50:08] still are insanely popular. So there is this podcast.
[50:11] WTF is with Nikhil Kamath? The podcast is WTF is with
[50:17] Nikhil Kamath. Nikhil Kamath obviously one of
[50:20] the bigger entrepreneurs in India and it's only around 15
[50:24] episodes so far, but he takes his time with each episode.
[50:28] It's like a like a most civilized version of or let's
[50:33] say less right wing version of a Joe Rogan kind of podcast where
[50:36] he has multiple guests and they deep dive into one particular
[50:40] topic and it's usually related to something related to
[50:44] entrepreneurship or something like that.
[50:45] So we have episodes like WTF goes into building a fashion,
[50:50] beauty or home brand or WTF is the restaurant Game, WTF does it
[50:56] take to build influence today? And for all the listeners, yes,
[51:00] I know what WTF stands for. I'm just not mentioning that
[51:03] because if we do, then we'll have to put up a notification on
[51:06] Spotify saying that there are. There's more explicit word usage
[51:10] here. What do you mean, Vineet?
[51:12] Everybody knows WTF is Wednesday, Thursday, Friday.
[51:15] Yes. Yeah, moving on.
[51:21] So that's so just catch that podcast, it's already quite
[51:25] popular. It's on Spotify and most of the
[51:28] platforms very. They do a great deep dive and
[51:32] it's very well interviewed. It's very, it's a, it's an
[51:35] overall great podcast. It's an alternative to Joe
[51:38] Rogan, but where you'll actually learn something useful.
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