# Episode 139 - Block, Sue & Censor ft. Berty Ashley

An episode of [Are You Quizzing Me?](https://invisiblenetwork.ai/podcast/1663104901), 11 May 2026, 1 h 14 min.

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Joining us on this episode is our guest quizmaster Berty Ashley! Do you know why a specific block on Dulka Road in London, was a lot more expensive than everything around it? Do you know who was involved in a legal battle all the way to the Supreme Court, to fight for the rights of an Indian citizen to fly the national flag? Do you know which character on an American show, was a means for the actor to try and get as many swear words in different languages past the censor board? Tune in to the episode to find out!! You can reach us at Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/areyouquizzingme/ Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/areyouquizzingme Email: areyouquizzingme@gmail.com Subreddit: https://www.reddit.com/r/areyouquizzingme Youtube: https://www.youtube.com/@areyouquizzingme/podcasts

## Transcript

[0:00] Philip Sakwitz was an American cell biologist who spent most of
[0:04] his career at Rockefeller University.
[0:07] He was involved in early studies of protein synthesis and
[0:10] trafficking and also worked with George Pollard, a Nobel Prize
[0:15] laureate, on cell membrane dynamics.
[0:19] His most significant contribution, however, was in a
[0:23] paper that he wrote for the influential journal Scientific
[0:28] American in 1957. This paper has, in a way,
[0:33] impacted literally everybody since then, has affected almost
[0:38] everyone since then. We have all lived with the the
[0:43] outcome of this paper in a way. So my question to you, our
[0:48] audience member, is what came out of this particular paper
[0:54] that he wrote for Scientific American in 1957?
[0:58] That is the audience question for episode 139.
[1:00] And here's the music. Welcome to RU quizzing meet.
[1:05] I am Vineet Nair with my Co host Aditya Kashyap.
[1:08] This is a quizzing trivia podcast show.
[1:11] Join us as we dive deep into history, science, pop culture
[1:15] and so much more. Let's get quizzing.
[1:18] Welcome back to episode 139 and we are joined with our guest for
[1:23] today, Bertie Ashley. A round of applause.
[1:27] Sound effects at this point should hopefully play because
[1:30] that's what's happening. Our audience love Bertie Ashley
[1:34] coming back to our podcast, he is obviously a fan favorite.
[1:38] Bertie, thank you for showing up for today's episode in the
[1:42] absence of Vineet. Hello, I am so glad to be back.
[1:46] And I don't know what this fan favorite bit is.
[1:49] I am a big fan of the show and I love the shots that come out.
[1:53] And every time you guys tag me, I'm like, yeah, I am on your
[1:56] channel. A few people have pinged me and
[1:58] said, hey, when are you back to? Are you accusing me?
[2:00] And I, I keep telling them they are very busy.
[2:02] Those two, you know, whenever they ask I'm ready.
[2:05] They just never reach out. But I'm glad to be back.
[2:08] I'm as usual, we are raring to see what you've got and raring
[2:12] to see what I have got. Its like if you know a precious
[2:17] object you cannot look at it for too long.
[2:20] We can't have Bertie actually too often on our podcast.
[2:23] It has to be a rare thing cause too much awesomeness we can't
[2:26] handle. Also, let me be very clear, very
[2:30] true, that the last few times you've called I have been
[2:32] travelling somewhere you have has me, but my ridiculous
[2:36] travelling schedule does not allow me to do this very often,
[2:38] so my apologies. We are grateful that you have
[2:41] found time this for a particular instance and we have you on this
[2:44] episode, so I'm glad. But before we start the regular
[2:47] episode, here are the shout outs for the previous episode.
[2:51] Our smack or social media audience question was a visual
[2:55] question, which was a form, a United States government form.
[3:00] And the question was what are the blanked out details in this
[3:03] custom declaration form? The blank of details included
[3:07] operator, flight, departure, crew, cargo, etcetera, etcetera.
[3:12] As usual, we give a shout out to the person who first answered it
[3:14] on Instagram and that was Dhanraj Naik.
[3:16] So great job, Dhanraj. Dhanraj cracked it within a
[3:19] matter of few seconds because he knew that this particular
[3:23] customs declaration form was by the crew of Apollo 11 after they
[3:28] had come back from their historic journey to the moon.
[3:33] So the people who filled it out were of course Neil Armstrong
[3:35] and all, and Michael Collins. The cargo that they were
[3:38] carrying was moon rocks. So they had to fill out what was
[3:42] in their customs, and they wrote moon rocks and the departure
[3:45] from section was, of course, the moon.
[3:48] So it is considered a pretty iconic historic declaration
[3:52] form. I don't know if it was meant for
[3:54] just as a joke, but yeah, it's an interesting piece of history
[3:59] captured in bureaucracy. All right.
[4:03] OK, so buddy, I know you're going to RIP off of questions
[4:07] that I ask, so I have the first question ready for you, right?
[4:11] As usual, I come with nothing prepared.
[4:14] All right. Let's go improv.
[4:16] Improv cuisine with Are You Cuisine?
[4:20] Just combining my absolute two favorite loves.
[4:23] So to start us off, I'm going to 1st ask you, have you been to
[4:26] Kolkata buddy? I'm assuming you have.
[4:28] You're well travelled, man. Here's the interesting time.
[4:30] No, I have not. At the last two times I was
[4:32] supposed to have been there, have not worked out.
[4:34] I'm very pleased if I want to be there for Christmas and I want
[4:37] to go to flurries and have the rum ball.
[4:40] But yes, yes, it's one of the greatest regrets of my life so
[4:43] far. There is a flurries that has
[4:44] opened up in Mumbai and I went there.
[4:47] It turns out it's not as iconic as the Kolkata 1 and people here
[4:51] claim it's because the water is different, which I think holds
[4:54] some merit. They see that about New York
[4:56] bagels, so I'm sure it's true for flurries also.
[4:59] Yeah, yeah. Well, Kolkata, I'm coming soon.
[5:01] You heard it first or are you quizzing me?
[5:05] All right. OK.
[5:05] So well, when you go to Kolkata, there is this particular St.
[5:09] which is which is a pretty busy St.
[5:12] It is considered pretty iconic. It used to be called Harrington
[5:16] St. OK, my question to you is very
[5:20] simple, buddy. Harrington St. was renamed in
[5:25] the 1970s by the Bengal government.
[5:30] What did they rename Harrington St. to?
[5:33] And interestingly enough, why? The what and the why are pretty
[5:37] connected, so take a stab at it. Why do you think they renamed
[5:40] Harrington St. in the 1970s and what did they rename to?
[5:45] So I'm going to say why, because the name was a British name and
[5:51] they want honour somebody Indian, but there are lots of
[5:54] still British in Kolkata, I'm guessing.
[5:56] So there should be a very specific reason as to why they
[5:59] didn't want to call it Harrington.
[6:03] I have no idea. I don't know this.
[6:04] So I'm going to work it out right now.
[6:06] I'm my first answer is going to be they didn't want it to be
[6:10] called Harrington, but they renamed it into something that's
[6:15] close enough so that people don't have to think too much to
[6:18] get the right answer. So I will say what would be a
[6:23] nice Bengali name that sounds like Harrington or something
[6:26] like Hurrying or something like that, or Harry.
[6:30] Done Hari Nath Tagore something. Which is close.
[6:33] I think that would work. Yeah.
[6:36] No. Fantastic first stab at it, must
[6:39] say. I will obviously give you props
[6:41] for figuring out the fact that he has the whole idea of
[6:43] decolonizing. Almost every country around the
[6:46] world, which has been a former colony, has tried to decolonize.
[6:49] And one of the main ways is to rename things that I have a
[6:52] colonial hangover. We have spoken about it in a
[6:55] previous episode. There is this one point in
[6:57] Mumbai which has so much history, Flora Fountain, his
[7:01] earlier name and now it is without my chowk.
[7:03] We spoke about it for for regular listeners, they know
[7:05] what I'm talking about. Or if you're not, go check out.
[7:08] It was I think the last second, last two episodes ago.
[7:10] Fun episode. But in this case, you are right.
[7:13] They probably had this intention of renaming things that have a
[7:17] colonial hangover but they did not rename it to somebody
[7:21] Indian. So Hari Nath Togor I'm sure is
[7:25] someone and probably is a intellectual person knowing
[7:28] Bengal, but they did not name it to anybody Bengali or anybody
[7:31] Indian also for that matter. I mentioned 1970s.
[7:34] I clue you along now. Alright, so Harrington St. has a
[7:38] pretty important building on it. This building was the reason
[7:43] that they renamed it, almost as a way to stick it to the man, I
[7:48] guess in a way. So an act of defiance.
[7:52] This street was renamed and the building that is on Arrington
[7:56] Street is perhaps the main reason.
[7:59] OK, interesting. OK, this happens quite a lot in
[8:03] certain places where they have a particular embassy or something.
[8:06] And then to stick it to that embassy, they rename the street
[8:09] of the person or the country which that embassy is against,
[8:15] or something like that. That happens a lot.
[8:17] So if the US embassy, I mean, for example, if the British
[8:23] embassy was that you would name it Napoleon St. you know, just
[8:26] to piss them off. So I'm guessing it's something
[8:29] like that. Let me guess, it's a go for it
[8:33] organization like that is like Embassy or something.
[8:36] You are pretty much on the right track.
[8:37] Yes, go for it. Take a stab at what country
[8:42] could they be trying to defy it 1970s. 1970s If it's Kolkata, it
[8:48] has to be either the Americans or the Russians.
[8:50] I would say the Russian embassy and then name the street after
[8:55] Washington or some American, but we don't know like the Americans
[8:58] also. So for our listeners, we are
[9:01] recording on the 6th of May 26th.
[9:03] The Bengal elections have just concluded.
[9:06] There is pretty turbulent times that are seem to be happening
[9:11] right now. Mamta Banerjee has been in power
[9:14] for a very long time and is refused to concede the loss.
[9:17] Let's see what happens in the in seven days.
[9:19] As of recording, as of recording as of recording.
[9:22] I'm not sure what's going to happen in the near future, but I
[9:25] will point you to the direction that for a very long time
[9:28] Bengal, W Bengal in India has had a specific type of
[9:31] government and they would not be non aligned with Russia.
[9:36] Yeah. Jyothi Basu so.
[9:37] They would. Russia would probably be
[9:39] somebody that would be aligned with more than America if these
[9:42] are the two options. Yeah, yeah.
[9:44] So. I'll clue you it is the American
[9:45] Embassy, not the Russian Embassy on Harrington St.
[9:48] So the US embassy and named Marx Street or something like Karl
[9:51] Marx St., Tenant Street or Stalin St. 1970s Yes, the Cold
[9:55] War was happening, but more importantly, what was the US
[9:59] involved in? Early 1970s.
[10:02] Nineteen 60s. Or the Vietnam?
[10:03] WAR, correct? So what do you think they
[10:05] renamed it to? Who do you think they renamed it
[10:08] after? Are you serious in the Ho Chi
[10:10] Minh or something like that? Ho Chi Minh Sarani in Kolkata is
[10:17] a busy St. in the city where the American consulate is.
[10:23] You know, very inherited Ho Chi Minh not too far also, so
[10:27] you're. Right.
[10:27] You're right. Yeah.
[10:29] But that is so cool. That is fantastic.
[10:31] I'm glad I could work that out. But thank you for a lot of help.
[10:33] But yes, we got there eventually.
[10:35] It is. Near Park Street.
[10:36] It's it's, it's in a pretty popular main area.
[10:38] And there were protests against the Vietnam War and solidarity
[10:42] with North Vietnam in the late 1960s, early 1970s.
[10:46] Unofficially, it was changed and then later it became an official
[10:48] name. So there's a street in Kolkata
[10:50] called Ho Chi Minh Sarani and that was renamed literally to
[10:53] Stick to the Americans whose embassy is on the street.
[10:56] Nice. You're right, it has happened in
[10:58] multiple places in very recent past.
[11:01] There have been a multiple European countries where where
[11:05] the Russian embassy or the Russian mission Russian
[11:06] consulate is has been renamed to either the Ukraine square or
[11:11] Kiev square or something along those lines.
[11:13] So a bunch of especially the former Soviet countries, which
[11:18] are now more European aligned, they have had their their
[11:23] squares or streets renamed to something to do with the Ukraine
[11:27] in an act of protest against Russia's war in Ukraine.
[11:30] That has happened. The Americans have also faced
[11:33] that multiple times. I think in the Middle East.
[11:35] They have had that. And whenever the Americans have
[11:38] that, then they just change their official address to some
[11:40] sort of GPS coordinates. They refuse to write that in
[11:43] their official address, the name of the actual street.
[11:45] So they'll just write the GPS coordinates or some sort of work
[11:49] around because they don't want to acknowledge the fact that it
[11:52] has been renamed to something that they they don't politically
[11:54] align with. I haven't checked what the
[11:56] American consulate in India in Kolkata's address says.
[12:00] Perhaps now they're OK with it being Ho Chi Minh Sarani, but
[12:05] maybe back in the 70s they refused to call it that.
[12:07] I don't know. We took a long time to get to
[12:10] the answer, but it's still lesser than they were and the
[12:13] Americans took to get out of here.
[12:17] And in this case at least, we had a decisive end to it.
[12:20] In that case, they refused to acknowledge that loss.
[12:25] OK, so we are back to being on segues because as usual I have
[12:29] come completely unprepared. So going from the segue of that
[12:33] of art dresses, and it's a little, I'm easily workoutable,
[12:38] so let's go. So this is St. in the United
[12:41] Kingdom, where there are a lot of immigrants.
[12:43] It was named after a very early immigrant called Duka DULK.
[12:48] A. And that street has lots of
[12:50] blocks. It has a normal value for the
[12:53] street in that area, but one specific block has a very high,
[12:58] it's almost like 1520 times higher value value than it's
[13:03] neighboring house. Like the next house on the left,
[13:05] next house on the right is 15% low.
[13:07] So you want to tell me which block is that and why?
[13:12] You said a lot of immigrants there.
[13:14] Yeah, And I know more about Indian immigrants probably than
[13:19] I do about any other cultures. So that's what I'm going to
[13:21] start. I'm assuming it is perhaps
[13:24] related to some Indian celebrity who has lived there.
[13:28] I know a bunch of Indian celebrities have had houses or
[13:31] still have houses in London. Yeah, yeah, Yeah.
[13:33] So I'm guessing it is some some Shahrukh Khan's previous house
[13:36] in London, something like that. Amitabh Bachchan.
[13:39] I don't know. I.
[13:40] Don't know. I'm not sure.
[13:42] I don't think so. I don't think if he ever lived
[13:45] in London, I mean, I know about his house is Bombay.
[13:48] There's also. Dubai also I believe he has a
[13:50] house. I'm sure there are bunch of
[13:52] houses there. No, this is.
[13:53] Not about the occupant of it's about the houses.
[13:56] Oh, OK, OK. So it's not like somebody famous
[13:59] ever lived there and that's why the price went up?
[14:02] Nope. But it's an Indian connect.
[14:04] It is an Indian connect. What did you say the name was?
[14:07] Dulka DULK. AI don't know.
[14:11] I mean, I, I think Dulkar Salman is great and phenomenal and I,
[14:16] I'm just wondering if. Are you breed up the one time
[14:19] that the man from Kochi is not here like I have been?
[14:24] Endlessly criticized for my lack of knowledge of Malayalam
[14:28] cinema, so I'm overcompensating perhaps.
[14:30] But no, I'm trying to think of some name Dul Dulka Dul and you
[14:38] said it's a specific blog. Yeah, one story blog.
[14:41] There are people who listen to the podcast right now going, Oh
[14:43] my God, I know this. They're shouting at you, right?
[14:46] Oh yeah, no, no, I I've been shouted at so many times.
[14:49] I do this. Every time we have one of these
[14:51] business, yeah, every time we do it's, it's.
[14:53] Very real. No, I, I, I am sure they're
[14:56] shouting at me already. So let me try to figure this
[14:59] out, Dulka. You are almost there name.
[15:03] Right, OK, cool. Yeah, I figured it has to do the
[15:05] name of the house. A.
[15:09] Block, you said, OK, so some does it cross with some
[15:13] interesting, is it on the crossing of Dulka and Salman
[15:16] Street or something like that? No, it's not.
[15:20] It's not by the way. It it it, it, it is a bigger fan
[15:23] base, OK. Yeah, I figured, like Dulka,
[15:26] Salman probably is not the biggest of celebrities.
[15:29] You land on it if you start going through the blocks.
[15:33] Oh, like oh, OK, like a number. Oh, OK, OK, OK.
[15:35] I was thinking block like a crossing, but OK, that numbering
[15:38] was it oh was it the house number 10 on Dulka St. and.
[15:47] Why? Because that would be 10 Dulka,
[15:51] 10 Dulkar, 10 Dulkar. Oh my God.
[15:56] Yes, it is number 10, not Dukas. Yeah.
[15:59] Oh. That's so cool.
[16:01] Well done. Yes, that's it.
[16:03] It's 10. Dulka St.
[16:04] Fantastic, fantastic. Oh, I love it so much.
[16:07] Now we. Just want to figure out how to
[16:09] get Dulka Salman to that place so that we get retrospective in
[16:13] this question correct for you also.
[16:15] Yeah. Somehow find a connection there.
[16:17] I'm sure there is a Salman St. also, and if by chance it it
[16:21] intersects with Dulka St., we have trivia right there.
[16:24] Yeah, we have. Very interesting.
[16:28] You won't have trivia because in its original etymologically
[16:32] sells. Trivia is interaction of three
[16:34] streets. So you need to have one more St.
[16:36] to get actual trivia. Oh.
[16:38] My God, that. That just made me so happy.
[16:42] Somewhere inside trivia about trivia.
[16:45] That's the best kind of trivia. Fantastic.
[16:48] OK, alright, well Speaking of, I have an easier segue because I
[16:53] have predetermined my questions. So I I just have to make up the
[16:56] segues. I don't have to make up the
[16:57] questions. Speaking of famous people in
[17:01] India, I have a question about a famous person who was caught up
[17:05] in a legal battle and this is around 22 years ago.
[17:09] Alright, so you have to identify who this famous person is.
[17:12] Here are the details. 22 years ago, January 23rd of 2004, there
[17:19] was a landmark case in front of the Supreme Court of India.
[17:23] Just the case of Union of India versus XX is a very famous
[17:28] person. This.
[17:30] Case practically determined how Indians, the citizens of this
[17:35] country, interact with our flag, with our tricolour flag, the
[17:41] saffron, white and green flag that we all love so much.
[17:45] I think it's a pretty, pretty well designed flag.
[17:48] I'm a big fan, yeah. Tiranga Tiranga.
[17:50] As it were. So X had decided in an act of
[17:55] again, perhaps some sort of defiance or to to challenge the
[17:58] authority, he decided to fly the flag on his premises.
[18:03] And so this court case came up. He was of course being
[18:07] prosecuted because back then it was not out for private citizens
[18:10] to be flying the flag in non government settings and non
[18:13] government approved settings. There were certain restrictions
[18:16] to how the flag could be flown and on the days that could be
[18:19] flown on. There are a bunch of
[18:21] restrictions that have since been eased in a bunch of other
[18:23] court cases as well, but this was one of the first significant
[18:26] court cases in that matter. He flew the flag on his factory
[18:30] premises. The question to you is, who's
[18:33] this famous person X? Interesting.
[18:36] OK. I am going to go for Tata very.
[18:39] Very good guess, but no, it's not Tata.
[18:42] Tata, I can imagine doing stuff like this.
[18:44] He he was known to to have a yeah, yeah, yeah.
[18:46] Pretty civic minded attitude. So no, it's a good guess, but
[18:50] no. OK.
[18:51] Cool, that's my first guess, but to get something else out of the
[18:55] way, the question is not at all, but I have to ask go for.
[18:57] It go for it. At Republic Day, functions and
[19:00] all, in every state, the chief minister unveils the flag,
[19:03] right? Do you know they were not
[19:05] allowed to do it for a long time?
[19:08] Who was the first person who went against the government and
[19:10] said I'm going to do it because I have the rights in my state
[19:12] and did it. And because of him, every other
[19:14] CM right now has the ability to do it.
[19:17] Oh, interesting. So I'm curious, was it before
[19:19] that only the governor could do it?
[19:20] What is the deal like? No.
[19:22] Before that, it was only the president at Rashtrapati board
[19:27] during very specific occasions. Chief ministers could not.
[19:31] He was the first guy who went against the government, said no,
[19:33] I have the right to do it. I will.
[19:36] There's a reason why I'm also really excited about it.
[19:37] It's such a good time. Oh.
[19:38] OK, I'll give it to you. I'll give it to you because this
[19:41] is your question and I'm just. And I was going to guess first.
[19:44] My first guess was going to be just because I think this man
[19:47] has a pretty badass history. I was going to say Biju Patnaik
[19:50] from in Odisha, former Chief minister of Odisha.
[19:54] But you also said it is relevant right now, so I'm going to guess
[19:58] also. I'm very proud of the fact you.
[20:00] Are very proud of the fact this is embarrassing because I don't
[20:04] know the. History.
[20:06] Of the chief ministers as much, and I'm assuming this was a few
[20:09] decades ago, at least few. Decades ago and like see Tamil
[20:13] Nadu has had only 2 Chief Ministers.
[20:16] Today. There's a third one was come up
[20:18] now. Yeah, I.
[20:19] Mean right now the we are, we are in the middle of that couple
[20:22] who. Everybody knows about so you can
[20:24] name one of. Them.
[20:27] I know, I know, I know. Stalin, Stalin as Stalin.
[20:31] Dad, Karanidhi, Okay, Karanidhi makes sense.
[20:34] Yes, of course. Yeah, Kalagir Karanidhi was the
[20:37] first one saying that as a chief minister, I, I have the rights
[20:41] to put up the flag. Wow.
[20:43] He started off as a act of defiance and now everybody
[20:46] fantastic. Now.
[20:47] Let's get back to your, which is completely the original point,
[20:52] so. It was around Republic Day and I
[20:54] think before that it was only a specific days that you were
[20:56] allowed to hoist the the Indian national flag in private
[21:01] premises. There were some restrictions on
[21:02] that. So he decided to do it on a day
[21:04] and it it was his way of saying that my rights as a citizen and
[21:09] my free speech rights rather should be more important than
[21:12] these restrictions. And he won the court case by the
[21:15] way. So we are able to do that thanks
[21:16] to this person. OK.
[21:18] So and you said it's a factory, so it's a business person.
[21:21] Exactly. You got that right, I.
[21:22] Don't know of many business people who have that sort of
[21:26] forward to do or buy their rights and stuff like that.
[21:29] So struggling to think who it could be, who would, who would.
[21:35] Is he also known for doing other things like this?
[21:38] Yeah, he has. He has done somebody civic
[21:41] oriented things in his life, perhaps not as famously as
[21:45] startup, but as as a lot of the big business owners are
[21:50] entrepreneurs in this country are.
[21:53] He has had, of course, his fair share of civic mind.
[21:57] You said factory because if you said company, I could go for one
[22:01] of those tech giants like Nazis friends.
[22:04] So you said factory. So somebody who's into mad
[22:06] effect, right? So Mahindra.
[22:09] Also a good guess. Also a good guess.
[22:11] OK, I'll, I'll give you a hint. This case started, I told you it
[22:16] wrapped up in the Supreme Court in 2004, but it started in 1992
[22:21] when X hoisted the Indian national flag at his factory in
[22:25] Raigarh in Chhattisgarh. So this wasn't Chhattisgarh, if
[22:29] that helps you a little bit, No. It doesn't.
[22:33] Back then it. Would have been of course,
[22:34] Madhya Pradesh, but yeah, Chhattisgarh now that did.
[22:37] Not help yet. So this is a question why are
[22:39] you need a teammate in your police?
[22:41] Because this is just not so. If Sethu Madhavan is watching
[22:45] this, shout out to him. If I were doing a business, I
[22:47] would take him. He will probably get this
[22:49] immediately. Chhattisgarh.
[22:51] So I don't know some steel foundry or something steel.
[22:56] Very good steel. Yeah, steel should lead you to
[22:58] it. The perhaps the most famous name
[22:59] in steel in India. Sale Steel 30 of India Limited I
[23:03] think. That is, if I'm not wrong,
[23:04] that's a publicly owned company, Yeah, then.
[23:08] Is it vital Lakshmi? Vital Mittal.
[23:11] Is also a good guess. No, but the perhaps the other
[23:15] name that is associated to steel, no.
[23:18] I I business is not my thing. I don't listen.
[23:20] I know, but that is because he was richest man or something,
[23:23] no? Fair enough, Fair enough.
[23:24] There is a very famous university, perhaps he's more
[23:28] form of famously known by the university that bears his name
[23:31] and bears his father's name. He opened it up and it bears his
[23:34] father's name. So that could perhaps be the
[23:36] other head that would lead you. Oh, this is in Haryana, by the
[23:39] way, the university is in Haryana, OK.
[23:42] You know what I am going to say? I don't know because you know, I
[23:45] have to give up. I've had a perfect record so
[23:47] far. No, you, you got very close
[23:50] because you got the businessman, you got the steel part of it
[23:52] also, Jindal. Jindal is the right answer.
[23:55] Jindal Steel op Jindal University in Haryana.
[24:00] Yes, I was going. Through universities in Haryana,
[24:03] those who have invited me to go and give a talk and I went to
[24:06] listen. So you, you have a personal
[24:08] connect. Yes, Thank you.
[24:11] By record stage. Yeah.
[24:12] Well done. Well done.
[24:13] Naveen Jindal, who was an Indian industrialist, also politician
[24:16] and philanthropist, he's the chairman of Jindal Steel, one of
[24:19] the biggest companies in India. I would imagine he's he's
[24:24] perhaps one of the richest people in the country.
[24:27] I'm not too sure about that, but he should be probably anyway.
[24:29] So also the founding chancellor of OP Jindal University, OP
[24:33] Jindal being Naveen Jindal's father.
[24:35] Naveen Jindal when he was a very young man in his early 20s, so
[24:39] this was back in 1992 in his early 20s, decided to hoist the
[24:42] flag in his factory. And that defied the law that
[24:46] governed how private citizens are able to hoist a flag on only
[24:51] certain occasions in their, in their premises.
[24:53] So all of us might remember being young kids and you know, a
[24:56] flag hoisting happening in the, in the building that we live in,
[24:58] in the society that we live in. But that would be restricted to
[25:01] 15th August or 26th January. So he decided to do it on
[25:05] another day. And back then he did it as a way
[25:08] of saying that my right freedom of speech and my right to to
[25:13] honor my flag and my country is perhaps more important than
[25:15] these integrity details. On January 23rd in 2004 was when
[25:19] the final ruling by Supreme Court established the fact that
[25:22] yes, private citizens should have their freedom to hoist the
[25:25] flags on days which are not mandated by the government.
[25:29] Since then there have been other court cases also which are
[25:31] important. And this is a personal
[25:33] personally interesting addendum to this.
[25:36] This trivia is the fact that you were not able to have the
[25:39] rational flag as part of your clothing that was also
[25:42] restricted in in some obscure law or whatever somewhere.
[25:46] And the reason that I have a personal connected this is my
[25:48] sister when she was a little tiny little girl in school I
[25:51] think she was just barely 6-7 years old.
[25:55] She took part in this poetry recitation competition and she
[25:58] was doing some very patriotic poetry, which is very cute in
[26:01] Hindi. And my mum decided that the
[26:03] appropriate costume would be she was wearing all white and then
[26:06] she just had a dupatta which was the tricolor.
[26:10] And my mum got it dyed, did it herself, and she thought it
[26:13] would be very cute. And then she and I think she did
[26:16] a great job. I, if I remember correctly, she
[26:18] didn't win because the judges cited the fact that, oh, you're
[26:21] not technically this is breaking the law.
[26:23] Wow. So I'm, I'm quite happy that the
[26:28] the courts have recognized since then that you know what, if done
[26:30] in a respectful manner, you should be allowed to wear the
[26:33] tricolor as well on your on your person.
[26:37] Shout out to Auntie for doing a great job.
[26:39] In short, of you I. Don't know if she went to the
[26:42] Supreme Court to fight for my sister's right to wear the but,
[26:46] but she was, she was in the heading in the right direction
[26:49] because now citizens of this country can do that.
[26:52] And Naveen Jindal, shout out to the man.
[26:55] Probably people know him today as a politician as well as an
[26:58] industrialist 'cause he was part of the Indian National Congress
[27:01] and now he's part of BJP as things happen in politics.
[27:05] But yeah, that's interesting little anecdote to his very
[27:09] early life, in his early 20s, mind you, which is, I think,
[27:12] quite impressive. Patience.
[27:14] Well done. Hey, excellent.
[27:16] Good job. I think we have my segue ready.
[27:18] Let's go. Flag.
[27:20] And also segue to your first question or a segue to your
[27:26] audience question. Got it.
[27:28] One line question. I'm excited.
[27:32] What? Was the first flag on the moon.
[27:34] Oh. My God, Oh my God.
[27:35] Oh my God. I know this.
[27:38] I know this. I feel like I have probably
[27:40] because I was so I was so caught up in in the Artemis mission as
[27:43] well. Wait, wait.
[27:44] OK, so. Let let's just go through this.
[27:46] What was not the first flag? What is the obvious wrong?
[27:49] Let's go for the Alan Davies answer this not.
[27:51] The American flag, OK. But let flags off go off for all
[27:54] those who said the American flag.
[27:57] I have a feeling this is, and it's contentious.
[28:02] Some people say that oh, it shouldn't be counted, but let's
[28:04] let's go with that fun piece of trivia, you know?
[28:07] An ACT flag on the moon OK if I'm not.
[28:12] Wrong. This is something that crashed
[28:14] onto the moon and there was a flag on it, so people claimed
[28:16] that that was the first flag that was on the moon.
[28:19] Is that the right answer? Am I thinking in the right
[28:21] direction? Which?
[28:22] Country, I mean. Your country then The only other
[28:24] country that will be possible would be USSR.
[28:27] It was. Not the USSR, OK.
[28:30] Again, I feel like this is just some trivia that I've read
[28:32] recently. It was, yeah.
[28:34] Some other, some equipment that belong to some other country
[28:38] that was also there. It's that, yes.
[28:41] Yes, yeah, I remember. This being confused between
[28:45] these two piece of trivia. OK, I'll need a hint.
[28:49] I'll need a hint so. July 20th 1969 Before the Eagle
[28:56] lands, they have to identify certain things which are there.
[29:01] The conditions are there. So the only non American piece
[29:06] of equipment was one which is used to study the solar
[29:11] particles. They needed to know how much
[29:12] solar radiation was, so they released a solar particle, so
[29:17] kind of aluminium foil, which will land on the moon.
[29:20] And I identify how much solar and the particles are there so
[29:23] that radiation start to high. OK.
[29:25] And it was made by person called Gates GEISS.
[29:30] OK, that's the. Only non American corporate and
[29:33] you know how we put make in India, made in US.
[29:35] They're like, yeah, so made in our country.
[29:37] So we put off like. I want to say it is it is some
[29:41] European country. Do you want one final clue?
[29:45] Yes. Please yes, go for it.
[29:47] It was. A huge positive sign for the
[29:49] European Space Agency. Oh, what a great clue.
[29:57] Is it the Swiss flag? It was a big plus.
[30:01] Yes, it was a flag, so it was a tiny.
[30:04] Aluminum foil, which had the full Swiss flag on it and it
[30:07] landed before the. So the first flag of the wound
[30:10] is technically the Swiss flag, right?
[30:13] Right, right, right. Yeah, I think I can.
[30:14] Also tell you where you heard this, it's from an episode of No
[30:19] Such Thing as a Fish It. Is a no such thing as a fish
[30:21] piece of trivia? Yes, that's what I heard it,
[30:24] yeah. Dad Schreiber brought it.
[30:26] Correct. Correct.
[30:27] Correct. They were talking about.
[30:28] I think that was a very fun piece of one.
[30:30] Very fun episode. I remember.
[30:31] Lovely. Yeah.
[30:33] We'll give credit where credit is due to.
[30:35] So do the amazing Dad Schreiber No.
[30:38] Such thing as a fish deserves credit in every.
[30:40] Are you using my episode? Because I think inadvertently
[30:44] maybe I do remember that that's where I heard the picture
[30:46] trivia. But there is so much fun trivia
[30:48] on it that I think it. Yeah, it just accumulates
[30:51] somewhere at the back of my head.
[30:52] So please go listen to that episode podcast actually, Yeah,
[30:56] OK, Since Russia came up, or well, at least the Soviet Union
[31:00] came up in the previous question.
[31:02] That's my segue. The question I'm going to ask
[31:04] you is very simple. Also probably a one line
[31:07] question. In 2003, Putin and his lawyers
[31:12] were going to sue Warner Brothers.
[31:15] Why were they going to sue Warner Brothers back in 2003?
[31:23] Probably a movie was made which they didn't.
[31:26] Wait 2003? Yeah.
[31:27] Was it one of the No, Warner Brothers is not James Bond.
[31:30] Was it mission in person? OK, you're not talking about any
[31:34] like, oh, the Russians being portrayed as villains kind of
[31:37] thing. It wasn't that.
[31:38] No, it's. Specifically Putin.
[31:39] Yeah. So obviously somebody's made fun
[31:42] of Putin and he took offense in a very.
[31:46] Indirect way, yes, OK. Did some movie have a plot where
[31:53] Putin was responsible for something and they hinted at the
[31:57] fact that Putin was responsible for something like the death of
[31:59] a journalist? Probably actually.
[32:03] Speaking of, because you spoke about the places being renamed,
[32:07] there were places that were going to be renamed to, I think
[32:10] Navalny St. which is the Russian Consulate.
[32:13] After Alexei Navalny passed away, I think two years ago, he
[32:15] passed away. Passed away.
[32:18] If you're watching. This video podcast quote UN
[32:20] quote. The poor guy when that guy
[32:24] suffered so much, but kudos to him for fighting till the end.
[32:28] But anyways, coming back to this, yes, Putin is notorious
[32:31] for having had his opponents face accidents very often, but
[32:38] so that. Was not the.
[32:39] No, it's. Not got anything to do with the
[32:41] plot point mocking him if if they were mocking him it was so
[32:46] indirect and probably all in Putin's head is all I can say.
[32:50] So why were they planning to sue?
[32:52] Who? Is this something like the
[32:53] Winnie the Pooh situation from China?
[32:56] That was going to be my my hint to you that if Xi Jinping was
[33:00] going to do it, he would sue Walt Disney Company.
[33:02] So it's a pretty similar similar lines of that so.
[33:06] It's an animated movie. No, it's.
[33:08] Not an animated movie, but it has some very heavy CGI being
[33:11] used and the character in question is CGI.
[33:14] Yes. OK, so it's a CGI character who
[33:18] gives vibes of being put in, so much so that Putin himself was
[33:22] like, hey, that's me again. I don't think Winnie the Pooh
[33:25] gives any vibe of being Xi Jinping, and even the
[33:27] resemblance is so, I don't know, it's so forced.
[33:31] I don't think it's just entirely.
[33:33] I think that's what happens when you are your leader of that
[33:36] style. That is true.
[33:38] That is true for. Dictator I guess is the best way
[33:41] to put in OK. 2003 CDA heavy movie where there is some sort
[33:47] of angle where Russian comes in again.
[33:51] No, no, no, no Russian at all. We do the poor again is not
[33:53] Chinese at all, right? Like it's just.
[33:55] Yeah, it had nothing to do with in fact, if.
[33:58] Anything just like We the Poor is such a sweet character, this
[34:00] character in question is also very I think is the most
[34:04] wholesome character in in this particular film.
[34:07] Oh, then. Then then I'm not, I'm not
[34:10] getting it. OK.
[34:11] So, So this was part of a series of films and this was the second
[34:15] film in the series. That's where the character first
[34:18] appears. OK. 2003 second.
[34:21] The second film actually came out in 2002.
[34:23] The court case or whatever the the legal proceedings were going
[34:26] to happen in 2003. I don't know if it actually
[34:29] happened finally, but yeah, they were planning to sue Warner
[34:31] Brothers. Wait, was this the last World
[34:35] series? I think there's last World in
[34:36] 2003. Did you say that dinosaur is
[34:39] based on? Yeah, you're on the right track.
[34:42] It's almost like he just, I know why he found the resemblance to
[34:46] be there, to be there, and he insisted that it's there and he
[34:49] wanted to sue for it. Whatever, doesn't matter.
[34:52] But the question is what? What character did Putin think
[34:55] that he was? He resembled and was being
[34:58] mocked in a way. Even though the character is
[35:00] very wholesome, I think OK. Then I am God.
[35:03] I mean I can't think of him and anything wholesome in the same
[35:06] setup so like. Yeah, I don't think Putin is a
[35:10] resemblance, but sure, if that wasn't Putin said.
[35:13] OK, one last clue. I said it's the second in the
[35:16] series. It came out in 2002.
[35:18] It is based off of a book and is probably one of the most famous
[35:22] IPS out there. Is it a children's character?
[35:26] Young. Adult children, yeah.
[35:27] Yeah. Famous series, second movie
[35:29] comes out. Who was this from?
[35:31] Narnia or something more? Famous than Narnia, Oh.
[35:35] No, Oh no, this. I did not think it was true.
[35:39] This is Golem from lot of the rings.
[35:41] Oh. Interesting.
[35:42] Now you said Golem. I don't know if you would
[35:44] consider this series more famous than Lord of the Rings.
[35:47] Oh, no family. Lord of the Rings is #1?
[35:49] Yeah, you know what? I'm not going to argue with
[35:51] that. I don't want, I don't want to
[35:52] piss off people. But this probably has sold more.
[35:56] No, no. OK, so Jacob really looked at
[35:58] column and came up with Dobby the elf, and I think that's what
[36:02] Putin got pissed off at. Fantastic.
[36:04] Yes, it is Dobby the house elf and JK Rowlings.
[36:08] Harry Potter and the Chamber of Secrets was adapted into a film
[36:11] which came out in 2002, and so they decided that the.
[36:17] Because of course, the books don't have that much
[36:19] illustration in them, but the movie had a specific design and
[36:23] Putin assumed that the design was based off of.
[36:27] His likeness for Dobby and I think Dobby.
[36:30] Is a pretty nice sweet character, yeah if anything
[36:33] oppressed and treated poorly but but wholesome in in and of
[36:36] himself if. What you're saying is right,
[36:39] somebody just have to throw a sock and put in and he'll go
[36:42] away. I would assume that is a suicide
[36:47] mission, but sure, call the. Guy who threw a shoe at George
[36:51] Bush, Tell him didn't throw a socket.
[36:56] I love when non lethal objects and non permanent damage objects
[37:00] are throated politicians, especially some of the
[37:03] politicians who deserve it, as long as they're not bodily
[37:05] harmed. I think it is hilarious.
[37:07] Like there are these cases of I think it's the Brits.
[37:10] Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. The Farage, right.
[37:13] I think he's been thrown flour on him.
[37:15] Milkshake, milkshake eggs. And I remember John Oliver made
[37:18] a joke about, like, all he needs is some baking powder, and we
[37:21] are ready to make a cake because there's some flour.
[37:24] There's been eggs, there's been milk.
[37:26] All the ingredients are there. Yeah.
[37:30] But yeah. So I guess that the next Mission
[37:32] Impossible film should just be Ethan Hunter trying to give a
[37:36] sock to Putin. Nice.
[37:41] Fantastic. Yes, it is.
[37:42] Dobby the House Self and Warner Brothers were initially going to
[37:45] be sued. I don't think it finally
[37:46] happened, but they were considering suing Warner
[37:49] Brothers because of the likeness of Dobby the house Self to Putin
[37:52] as Putin thought himself. Wow.
[37:55] OK, Segue, you said he thought that was based on Let's go in
[37:59] the other dash. So they were these characters
[38:01] which are based on the actual people.
[38:04] When this movie was released and when the movie was being made,
[38:08] Disney were like so damn sure that they will get this voice
[38:16] ensemble on board. So they made the characters,
[38:20] they descended characters, they named the characters, but the
[38:23] deal fell through OK. The.
[38:25] People who were supposed to come and be part of the movie did not
[38:29] OK. But they.
[38:30] Still had to take the movie forward.
[38:31] So they did it with four people who we don't know.
[38:33] I mean, I generally don't know the names.
[38:35] And the movie continued 1967, the original film comes out.
[38:40] Song was great. There was a song in the movie
[38:43] which made a reference to all of this.
[38:45] People didn't realize that this was what had happened but till
[38:48] today that movie is also a very famous movie, harm of movie and
[38:52] it's got multiple remakes and reworks of it and all.
[38:55] But my question is who was the original voice artist and what
[38:59] are the name of the characters? OK, you said four people that
[39:06] they were going to bring on board and they eventually did.
[39:09] That didn't happen. They went ahead and made the
[39:11] movie came out in 1967. Initially I was thinking it
[39:17] could be one of the earlier the the famous Princess films, all
[39:21] of the Cinderella and the Snow White and whatnot.
[39:24] But I think those were before nineteen, 6700%.
[39:28] Yeah. So they're definitely older than
[39:30] 1967. Because a lot of Disney films
[39:32] are musicals #4 makes me think of a band like 4 is just a very
[39:36] classic band number. Because it's the 60s, I could
[39:41] guess that it would be The Beatles.
[39:43] I go full points to The Beatles. Well done.
[39:46] OK. So The Beatles are going to be a
[39:47] task in a Disney film. That's interesting.
[39:50] OK, yes. So did did it not happen because
[39:53] of other reasons or because The Beatles just they broke up like?
[39:57] 90s is not there very much work together.
[40:00] I think it was just one contractual issue and you know,
[40:04] basically it was just their manager, not money that kind of
[40:07] stuff got. It so these are then they would
[40:10] have to be English characters. You'd have to have a British
[40:15] English whatever accent. Yeah, the final version didn't,
[40:19] but the original was supposed to have.
[40:21] OK, OK, so the. Final version didn't have it
[40:24] because I was thinking any story based in male England in that
[40:29] time. I can't think of in Disney film
[40:31] the giveaway. Close to where it is based.
[40:34] OK, alright, so no, Aladdin is later.
[40:37] Aladdin is in 1967. Pocahontas also would not make
[40:41] sense because that would have British characters, but that is
[40:43] also later I think very. Much later 90s, yeah.
[40:47] Yeah, that's a later film, 1967. Which Disney film is 1967?
[40:53] Yeah, and. It's one of those movies which
[40:55] everybody knows and like even till recently there's been
[40:58] remakes, there been recent live action remakes, all that kind of
[41:01] stuff. Live action remakes Disney live
[41:04] action remake. There has been Beauty and the
[41:07] Beast. There has been Snow White,
[41:10] Cinderella. Beauty and the Beast is not
[41:13] 1967, right? No, it's later than that.
[41:17] OK, no, I think I'll need some clue because I can't think of I
[41:25] just I'm not, I'm not able to picture any characters which
[41:27] would be played by John Paul. OK, so.
[41:31] The four characters are called John, Paul, George and OK and
[41:34] they also decide like even till today, if you look at your
[41:37] frame, they all look like the John, Paul, George and the four
[41:41] characters. OK, It's based on the
[41:42] interesting. Now the interesting part is that
[41:48] it's probably, as of now, the only Disney film that's based in
[41:53] II. Yeah, jungle.
[41:55] Book. Yes, there we go.
[41:57] It was based in Pinch. Wait.
[41:59] Jungle Book is what what? Break this down for me.
[42:03] Break this down for me. Come on.
[42:04] Have you seen the movie Jungle Book?
[42:07] We probably as a child, I don't quite remember the original
[42:10] version anymore, so there's a lovely.
[42:12] Song called we are friends, we are friends, friends to the
[42:17] Peter and yeah and there's a four part harmony.
[42:20] Do you know who sings those four?
[42:22] Which 4 characters in that who? Is it?
[42:26] Is it? I want to say vultures?
[42:29] Are they vultures? Exactly.
[42:31] They are the vultures. I was this, this group of
[42:34] vultures singing right, right, right.
[42:36] So the four. Vultures was supposed to be The
[42:38] Beatles. Oh so interesting.
[42:41] That is insane. That is insane.
[42:43] I love it so much. Follow.
[42:45] Fact for you. So the Disney guys reached out
[42:47] to The Beatles and Beatles didn't follow.
[42:50] The other way is where The Beatles reached out to somebody
[42:54] and said we want to make your book into a movie, and that guy
[42:58] said no, you know who that is? Beatles.
[43:01] Reached out to someone to adapt their work.
[43:05] Yeah, they said we want to be again 4 characters, like these
[43:10] are the four characters. We will play these 4 characters.
[43:12] Is it Lord? Of the rings exactly.
[43:14] And what are the four characters they wanted to play?
[43:16] Oh my. God, they wanted to play Frodo
[43:18] and Sam and Oh my God, that is so cool.
[43:25] We have we. There's a copy of the letter
[43:27] where Tonkin said sorry, no, no, no, don't kill himself, said.
[43:31] I can't imagine the beetles as hobbits.
[43:34] No candles. Oh.
[43:35] That is interesting. That is interesting.
[43:38] There is a Tolkien himself to play.
[43:40] Oh my God, Yeah. They I can imagine the four of
[43:43] them being a little nerdy, having read Lord of the Rings in
[43:45] school and and wanting to play those characters.
[43:48] Yeah. That's so.
[43:49] Cool. Yeah, No, no chance.
[43:52] Oh man, I would. I would be very interested in
[43:57] Altered Universe to have seen that film.
[43:59] That would be a pretty interesting film to watch.
[44:01] Yeah, very interestingly. Peter Jackson, you know, he did
[44:04] do both The Beatles and a lot of the rigs, that is.
[44:07] True. Oh my God, I forgot The Beatles
[44:08] part of it also. Yeah, Peter Jackson did do that.
[44:10] So cool, lovely, lovely. Because I recently watched
[44:15] Michael. And then again, because as these
[44:17] things happen, he sees back in pop culture.
[44:20] I came across this piece of trivia.
[44:21] Do you know which character did Michael Jackson want to play
[44:24] really badly and almost went to the point of of buying the IP,
[44:29] the original IP, just so that he can play the character.
[44:32] OK, I know. I knew 2 characters, one was
[44:34] Peter Pratt, which is what went to Never never because he wanted
[44:37] to go up. The second one was he wanted to
[44:40] be in Men in Black and he wanted to be an agent and he did get to
[44:42] be in Men in Black. He stars in Men in Black as the
[44:45] CD says I am agent. Is there anything for me?
[44:48] And they shut him down. So I know those are the two
[44:50] films that he did start in, but what is the character he wanted
[44:54] to play and didn't get to play? I am not sure.
[44:57] I don't know. So this was confirmed by one of
[45:00] the creators of this this IP in 2009 that Michael Jackson
[45:06] approached him to play this particular iconic character.
[45:09] He was a huge fan. This he tried to do in the 90s
[45:13] when when he was turned down. He's like, you know what, I'm
[45:16] just going to buy this whole thing and I'm going to make the
[45:17] film myself, right? Interesting.
[45:20] I'm. Yeah, I don't know what it is.
[45:21] Yeah. I don't know if there are any
[45:23] hints I can give her. Actually, I'll give you one
[45:25] hint. The person who confirmed it was
[45:26] Stan Lee OH. He wanted to play Spider Man
[45:29] indeed. He wanted to play Spider Man.
[45:32] Oh, Marvel was facing bankruptcy in the 90s.
[45:35] That's when they sold it off to Sony and and Fox X-Men and
[45:39] Spider Man sold out. At that point.
[45:41] I think Michael Jackson also approached Stanley about buying
[45:44] the company so that he could eventually just play Spider Man
[45:47] if you wanted to. Yeah, that is.
[45:48] So cool, that would have. Been a very interesting take on
[45:51] it. Yeah, very.
[45:52] Interesting. Nice.
[45:53] OK, we're getting too many lots of questions within questions.
[45:55] I like this. Very nice.
[45:57] Yeah, I like it. Some side trivia for people who
[46:00] like that guy. And it's actually quite the no
[46:03] such thing as a fish. There you go.
[46:05] I know. This is the best part about not
[46:08] preparing questions. You just segue to random stuff.
[46:10] All right, this is probably going to be my last question.
[46:13] And after this you can ask your final question, buddy.
[46:16] So I segue with the simple idea of an ensemble, right?
[46:21] Because the beetles were, I guess, an ensemble.
[46:23] So that's my segue. The Many Loves of Dobby Gillis
[46:28] was an American sitcom that aired on CBS from September 29,
[46:34] 1959 to June 5, 1963. So for a period of around 4
[46:39] years there was a sitcom on the American channel.
[46:42] CBS went by the name of Many Loves of Dobby Gillis.
[46:47] This sitcom obviously featured a bunch of characters.
[46:50] I'm going to mention a few of them.
[46:51] All right, I'm going to mention four of them.
[46:53] So that's where the ensemble comes in.
[46:56] Dobby Gillis was a clean cut teenager the the titular
[47:00] character, an unremarkable student whose young heart finds
[47:03] poetry and literature resonant. There's also Maynard Krebs,
[47:09] Dobby's lazy and somewhat goofy best friend.
[47:13] There was Thalia Meninger, a beautiful high school classmate
[47:18] of Dobby Dobby, and the last character in question was Elda
[47:23] Gilroy, the smartest girl in Dobby's high school and college.
[47:27] These were the four characters in question.
[47:30] The reason I. Ask you about this is because
[47:33] these 4 characters inspired something in pop culture that is
[47:37] a lot more significant and resonant than this particular
[47:40] show from back in the 50s and 60s, right?
[47:43] The show Dobby Gillis and the four characters from Dobby
[47:45] Gillis including the digital character inspired four other
[47:48] characters that are a lot more have a lot more significant
[47:53] impact on pop culture. Can you tell me what 4
[47:57] characters were inspired by these 4 characters from this
[48:00] show back in the 50s timeline? And your description makes me
[48:07] think of Archie Jughead. The timeline.
[48:11] Is accurate because the first ever Archie comic appeared in
[48:15] April 1967. So you are you were right in
[48:18] terms of the timeline. But no, it's not the Archies,
[48:20] OK? So where can you tell me what
[48:23] are the four characters, Dobie? Gillis Dobie Gillis was a clean
[48:27] cut teenager and unremarkable student, and he aspires to have
[48:31] dates with all of the beautiful girls he pursues.
[48:33] So that's where the many loves of Dobie Gillis, that's where
[48:36] the name came from. There was Maynard Krebs, the
[48:39] character, which was Dobie's lazy and somewhat goofy best
[48:43] friend. He was a would be beatnik who
[48:46] shuns romance and authority figures.
[48:49] The other characters in question first was Thalia Meninger, a
[48:53] beautiful high school classmate, Adobe.
[48:55] Thalia is only willing to date Toby when he has money or helps
[48:58] her in her schemes to make some money for herself.
[49:01] So that's that's kind of the character sketch for her.
[49:04] And there was Zelda Gilroy, who's the smartest girl in his
[49:07] high school and college. And Zelda is in love, but Toby
[49:12] is not very interested in her. So less in love Adobe, but yeah,
[49:16] OK. So there's two guys, 2 girls,
[49:21] and there's some sort of romantic interest in Harlem.
[49:26] Are we looking at the on screen universe or this is a book
[49:31] universe? It's TV.
[49:33] I'm going to tell you it's TVTV, OK?
[49:36] Four people on TV and you said it's some that became more
[49:40] universally acclaimed. Yeah, I would say it's
[49:43] culturally a lot more resonant than the show, which I'd never
[49:46] heard of. The first time I came across
[49:48] this was in context to this preview.
[49:49] Oh. Was this I remember a show
[49:52] called The Wonder Years which used to be on Star Plus a long
[49:54] time? No, no.
[49:55] Bigger than that, much bigger than that, much bigger.
[49:57] I wonder years was. I think it was also adapted into
[50:00] Hindi if I'm not wrong. Really.
[50:03] Well, well, fun fact for you. The girl who plays the smart kid
[50:08] in the one days is actually super smart.
[50:10] She wanted to do her PhD in mathematics, and she actually
[50:13] actually has a mathematical theorem named after her, and
[50:16] she's now a proper mathematical scientist.
[50:18] Wow. OK, Bigger than that on screen,
[50:24] on TV, four people. So I'm guessing this is American
[50:28] television, which is where stuff like this happens.
[50:32] Sitcom. Probably not the right word for
[50:35] it, but yes, it's an American show.
[50:38] Interesting. So it's not a OK a little out of
[50:43] context, but Buffy the Vampire Slayer types.
[50:46] No, no. This is by the way, let me give
[50:48] you some context. First is it's created in 1969.
[50:51] So I think Buffy the Vampire Slayer is much later than that.
[50:54] So it's it's not Buffy the Vampire Slayer.
[50:57] I also said it's not a sitcom, but yes, it's an American show.
[51:01] Interestingly, I just was going through the history of the The
[51:04] Answer over here and turns out that the context is that there
[51:09] was a lot of protests in 1968. OK, There were a bunch of parent
[51:13] run organizations who were protesting the fact that there
[51:17] were a bunch of shows that were meant for kids but had excessive
[51:21] violence or whatever excessive violence meant in the 60s terms.
[51:25] Not sure. So a bunch of these shows were
[51:27] cancelled because of all of these protests right now.
[51:30] Fred Silverman, who was the executive at CBS decided that he
[51:36] needed something which was a lot more family friendly.
[51:38] So guess what he decided to program?
[51:40] The first show that he put forward this off of this need
[51:45] was take a guess. Which one is it?
[51:48] Archie's Archie. Show The Archie Show based on
[51:50] the Archie comics was something that came on CBS around the same
[51:55] time because of a similar requirement.
[51:58] Now they realized that for a younger audience, even younger
[52:01] than the Archie Show would be intended for, they wanted
[52:04] something that was inspired by the Archie Show.
[52:06] So they wrote a first draft of this question.
[52:08] And now that here we are, back to our question of our show X in
[52:12] question. The first draft of it was
[52:14] inspired by the Archies. The second draft of it they they
[52:19] to move towards the other show, which was The Many Loves of
[52:22] Dobie Gillis and that's where the show came from.
[52:26] So you are actually very close because you said the Archies and
[52:29] Archies are the original inspiration.
[52:31] The final inspiration was The Many Loves of Dobie Gillis.
[52:35] Damn my my brain is stuck on scooby-doo for some reason.
[52:39] Yeah. It is Scooby-doo, are you?
[52:42] Serious. Your brain is doing you favors
[52:47] there buddy, Because it is scooby-doo.
[52:50] Yes, you are absolutely, absolutely right.
[52:53] Scooby Dooby. Doo.
[52:54] Where are you? OK, yes.
[52:56] So alright, so you you got that right.
[52:59] And I mentioned that I described the character, so I'll just tell
[53:02] you how they were related. And I think it will make a lot
[53:04] of sense because Shaggy, or Shaggy Rogers as his full name
[53:07] is, was based off of Maynard Krebs.
[53:09] I said the beatnik character, the person who is not very
[53:12] interested in romance and stuff. The best friend character,
[53:15] right? Velma.
[53:17] Was based on Zelda Gilroy, the extremely smart character.
[53:21] I don't know. Velma has a thing for Fred in
[53:23] the scooby-doo Canon, but in the original show the character did
[53:28] have a thing for Doby. And Fred obviously is based on
[53:31] Doby Gilles who was the the leader and was always
[53:34] perpetually scheming and what not.
[53:36] And Daphne was based on Thalia the stylish rich girl.
[53:40] And you know who cared about the more materialistic things.
[53:43] So these were the broad characters and they were based
[53:46] off of Shaggy. Velma, Fred and Daphne were
[53:48] based off of the characters from this one particular show on CBS
[53:54] called The Many Loves of Dobie Killers.
[53:56] Wow I did not know this but so cool my brain just went to
[54:00] Doobie Dobie Doobie Scooby Dooby.
[54:03] That's all. So yeah, from maybe there was
[54:05] some connection there. Nice, nice.
[54:08] Nice. OK, cool.
[54:09] I think then my last question would be a nice segue of very
[54:13] famous African TV shows. I think one of the probably one
[54:17] of the biggest hits of the 70s TV show, it was about young,
[54:22] young people in that generation, the hippie generation, doing
[54:26] that things, going to school and having a cool time and all that
[54:30] kind of stuff. When?
[54:33] They needed a character which was out of this world.
[54:37] They needed a character who was completely out of that world and
[54:42] they decided to bring one person in and saying X is the right
[54:47] person to play this character and that character was such a
[54:52] riot that that character got their own spin off show.
[54:57] When that character was on screen, they had a very specific
[55:01] problem because that character in his out of the world element
[55:07] had to speak foreign languages like, you know, speak in a
[55:10] different language. But because X was so fluent in
[55:15] multiple bad words in multiple languages, he said to self a
[55:22] challenge of trying to get past the censor board as many bad
[55:25] words as possible. So they had to find a censor
[55:28] board who was fluent in multiple languages.
[55:31] Which show and who was it? Did you give me a time frame?
[55:34] Sorry. So the.
[55:35] Original show at from 1974 to 1984.
[55:39] Or 10 year long show. OK, Yeah.
[55:41] It was a very big hit. The person who plays a main role
[55:45] in that film is also a legend right now, in the shows of
[55:48] legend right now. And that show gave rise to lots
[55:51] of phrases which we still use today.
[55:54] It is. Generally a big show, you also
[55:56] said. Spin off, right?
[55:57] Yes. The spin off, because that guy
[56:00] did such a great job. I was.
[56:01] Going to say Cheers and then Frasier even before that.
[56:05] This is something for, but yeah. Cheers.
[56:06] Is, I think a little late for that timeline.
[56:09] Yeah, yeah. When I say out of this world,
[56:11] generally out of this world. So extra tested.
[56:14] Which episode of Cheers has a alien?
[56:17] I've not seen Cheers, but I know I can imagine there is no alien
[56:21] in it. So then that makes you think of
[56:26] did, DID, didn't Fonzie have a spinoff?
[56:30] Is it happy days and a spinoff that okay?
[56:32] You're right, it is happy days the.
[56:34] Fonz had a spinoff, The Fonz. Is named the character Happy
[56:37] Days, which starred Ron Howard, who actually became one of the
[56:41] greatest directors of all time. Directing the movie Rush.
[56:44] Yeah. What?
[56:46] Was the speed of who was an alien.
[56:48] OK, yeah, I don't think Fonzie was an alien.
[56:51] He was just the cool guy over there.
[56:52] Yeah. Yeah, he was a very cool guy.
[56:54] There was an alien. Oh my God.
[56:55] I've again not seen the show so I have no idea.
[56:58] OK. So they they found a dude to
[57:00] play an alien. OK, there was an.
[57:02] AI had no idea the happiness I had An alien character also.
[57:06] Yeah, I like generally from a different planet who spoke the
[57:09] weirdest thing and who was just literally with an energy that
[57:13] these guys couldn't handle and was proficient in multiple
[57:16] languages. I.
[57:17] Absolutely love, by the way, Henry Winkler, because I've seen
[57:21] him in other stuff since then. I love his character in Arrested
[57:24] Development, which also makes references to him being the
[57:27] Fonzie. Yeah.
[57:28] But. He's definitely not played an
[57:30] alien. What alien character in Happy
[57:33] Days? What a spin off It was not.
[57:35] Henry Winkler and this person is world fed like like people might
[57:40] not know Ron Howard and Henry Winkler people know this game.
[57:44] Hmm, interesting. OK, more famous than Ron Howard
[57:46] and Henry Winkler? Oh. 100%.
[57:49] So somebody who probably then went on to do films also then,
[57:52] yeah. Yeah, global success, like
[57:54] generally global success. Okay, interesting.
[57:58] And the timeline is 70s and 80s yet?
[58:01] Such a manic, manic energy. Yeah, such a manic energy.
[58:05] They're like, you are an alien. Like generally you're an alien.
[58:08] And they're like, okay, we'll cast you as an alien and they
[58:10] cast you for one episode and you're so good that you got a
[58:14] spin off of a series which went for 10 episodes, I think 10 or
[58:17] 12 episodes so. The description made me think,
[58:20] and all of it being very famous and and manic energy first made
[58:23] me think of Jim Carrey, but I'm assuming he was a child when
[58:27] this show was on. Yeah, yeah.
[58:28] But same only there was I can. Think of food fit that bill and
[58:32] who would be somebody who would wonder, you know, probably was
[58:35] fluent in a bunch of languages and would want to push the sense
[58:37] of what only there was I can think of is Robin Williams,
[58:41] right? Answer Robin Williams played an
[58:43] alien called Mark MORK and he there went out because the Mark
[58:48] and Bindi show which we place in Alien, Mark and Bindi.
[58:51] Show that sounds right, right, right, right.
[58:54] I've not seen it, but yes, OK, sounds familiar, right?
[58:55] That is. Robert Williams and Robert
[58:57] Williams was the one who played the Nili and it is meant.
[59:03] Oh, I had no idea that he played an alien in the show.
[59:07] Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. And if I'm not talking to one of
[59:09] his very first, I can. Imagine he was doing.
[59:12] Stand up all the time and that was one of the first time he
[59:14] came out of stand up and he came on the big screen.
[59:17] Phenomenal. Yeah, he.
[59:19] He global fame he achieved after that obviously.
[59:22] Rest in peace, Gem. Of a person, Gem of a person.
[59:25] Yeah, so. Robin lives the right answer.
[59:26] Well done. Wow, OK.
[59:27] I had no idea and I didn't even know he played an alien, but who
[59:30] better to play an alien than Robin Williams?
[59:32] I I completely full marks for that casting.
[59:35] Absolutely fantastic. OK, great.
[59:38] I think that brings us to the end of this episode.
[59:42] And that was a bunch of lovely trivia with a bunch of even
[59:45] better bunch of lovely segues here and there.
[59:48] Any any, any last segue you want to throw at us, buddy?
[59:51] You don't need to frame it as a question, just some trivia that
[59:53] we can take home with us. Trigger you can take home with
[59:57] your OK, let's go with this then.
[1:00:01] Do you know what? Jumping the shark, which is from
[1:00:04] the happy days. Of.
[1:00:05] Course, of course. Would you like to?
[1:00:07] Tell the audience about why we in entertainment industry, we
[1:00:10] say that is jumping the shark so I.
[1:00:13] Think the again, because I've not seen the shows, I don't have
[1:00:17] a first person idea of this, but they were building up to the
[1:00:21] idea that there's going to be this epic event that's going to
[1:00:23] happen in this episode that is coming up in the near future,
[1:00:26] right? I think it was almost like, oh,
[1:00:27] something great, something very significant is going to happen.
[1:00:30] Tell you what. I was there for that because I
[1:00:32] was in school when this came out and remember watching this
[1:00:36] episode and thinking what the hell is going on?
[1:00:38] So it was during the last season and they were big things.
[1:00:41] So they had the fonts skiing, water skiing and then jumping
[1:00:46] over a shark. And it was obviously CGI was bad
[1:00:50] and I it looked very good and nobody could believe anything
[1:00:54] after that. So that that brought about the
[1:00:57] end of the show and the show went down after that.
[1:01:01] After that, anytime a TV show does something that seems out of
[1:01:06] the blue, out of nowhere, and it's very weird and it doesn't
[1:01:09] fit in with the ether of the show, it's called jumping the
[1:01:11] shark. Right.
[1:01:13] And then they were trying to do it as a way to like, you know,
[1:01:15] gain some of the ratings that they were losing, and it
[1:01:18] backfired completely. So it has that context.
[1:01:21] Absolutely. And the reason I also know this
[1:01:22] is of course, I had heard the phrase Arrested Development.
[1:01:25] Oh God, I love that show so much.
[1:01:26] The first three seasons. Fantastic in which Henry Winkler
[1:01:28] plays a lawyer and he's he's the absolute worst lawyer there is
[1:01:32] this maritime case. He wants to become a maritime
[1:01:35] lawyer in that for some reason, and this is part where there is
[1:01:38] a shark that he jumps over. He literally, it's a it's a
[1:01:41] visual gag. It lasts exactly one second.
[1:01:44] He just jumps over the shark and runs off.
[1:01:46] It is him running off from the scene and he literally does a
[1:01:49] quick jump. And to anybody who doesn't know
[1:01:51] the context of it, it would be like a very weird moment.
[1:01:53] But to anybody who does know, that is mental history with
[1:01:57] Fonzie and jumping what? A gang.
[1:01:59] Brilliant. And I love RSA development for
[1:02:01] just these, these gags throughout, which it is, it is
[1:02:05] fanservice of of just some utmost beautiful level where
[1:02:09] like, if you don't know it doesn't matter, go ahead and
[1:02:12] watch the show, it will be fun. But if you know, it makes the
[1:02:14] show so much better. I love it.
[1:02:16] Fantastic, fantastic. All right.
[1:02:18] OK, on that amazing, amazing note, I will go back to our
[1:02:23] audience question to wrap up this episode.
[1:02:26] Let me repeat the audience question.
[1:02:28] Philip Sykowitz was an American cell biologist who spent most of
[1:02:32] his career at Rockefeller University.
[1:02:34] He was involved in early studies of protein synthesis and also
[1:02:38] worked with the Nobel Laureate George Pollard on cell membrane
[1:02:42] dynamics. His most significant
[1:02:45] contribution to science, and I would say almost to general life
[1:02:48] and to some extent even pop culture, was because of his one
[1:02:52] article that he published in Scientific American, the the
[1:02:57] pretty famous science magazine in 1957.
[1:03:02] And the question was, what was this article about or how did it
[1:03:07] affect US science and pop culture?
[1:03:09] Whatever, not since then, since you're the only audience I have
[1:03:12] right now, buddy, you want to give a crack as to what this
[1:03:14] answer might be? Well, here's the thing.
[1:03:16] I don't know if you chose this because I'm a molecular
[1:03:19] biologist. I did.
[1:03:20] I did. I did for you.
[1:03:21] You're a molecular biologist. I did just for you.
[1:03:23] This is a pure. Guess, but I think I know this
[1:03:26] because I have come across this. Is this paper responsible for
[1:03:30] one of the most iconic lines in biology which everybody or every
[1:03:35] kid knows biology? I would say most iconic line in
[1:03:39] education, like just education in general.
[1:03:42] OK, so. Basically in every cell there's
[1:03:45] a very important reaction which is responsible for ATP being
[1:03:49] formed. And ATP is the energy source for
[1:03:52] for life. And it happens in a very
[1:03:54] specific part of the cell, which is where the ATP is produced.
[1:03:58] I think that's what we're talking about.
[1:04:01] And this entire thing can be put together in one line, in one
[1:04:05] line, and that one line is everybody 321.
[1:04:09] The mitochondria is the power. Of the Cell.
[1:04:14] Fantastic. Fantastic.
[1:04:16] Full marks for that answer. I didn't expect anything lesser
[1:04:19] from our esteemed microbiologist.
[1:04:23] I remember the first time you came on, I don't know why I
[1:04:25] thought you were a marine biologist, so I was looking for
[1:04:27] marine biology questions when you came on.
[1:04:30] But no, you're a microbiologist. I know that.
[1:04:32] And yeah, I wanted to ask this question because I thought it
[1:04:35] might tickle you a little bit. And that's where we get that
[1:04:39] amazing, amazing phrase mitochondria as a powerhouse of
[1:04:42] the cell from this one article 1915 that this one person wrote
[1:04:46] quick. Thing I am not a microbiologist,
[1:04:49] I am a molecular biologist, which is much more evident
[1:04:53] because this is exactly what we do.
[1:04:55] So microbiology is people who take care of cell culture, who
[1:04:59] grow cells and which also I do, but my main job is a molecular
[1:05:03] biologist, which is to understand the molecule of the
[1:05:05] cell. So you're absolutely right.
[1:05:06] The mitochondria is something which I study on a daily basis.
[1:05:10] I again, I again misspoke. I again misremembered.
[1:05:14] So not a microbiology or a molecular biologist And glad,
[1:05:18] happy mistake. You, you are relevant to this
[1:05:21] question. This relevant.
[1:05:22] The question is relevant to you, absolutely.
[1:05:24] Absolutely I. So we usually do a Sunday quiz
[1:05:27] and that's another segue to our usual that we do.
[1:05:32] So we do a Sunday quiz every week on our Instagram page.
[1:05:34] And another question I was going to ask was about the
[1:05:36] mitochondria as the powerhouse of the cell.
[1:05:38] And while do doing a little bit of reading up on that, I
[1:05:41] realized the only cell in the body which does not use ATP
[1:05:44] adenosine triphosphate, is the red blood cell.
[1:05:47] Oh yeah. Because it.
[1:05:47] Doesn't have any clips, yeah. And so it doesn't have any
[1:05:50] mitochondria. It doesn't have.
[1:05:51] Anything. That's why it has a weird shape,
[1:05:54] the concave shape so that can hold the hemoglob.
[1:05:57] The hemoglobin can hold the oxygen.
[1:06:00] And I love the I love the evolutionary history.
[1:06:02] Also, the current consensus is that mitochondria was at some
[1:06:07] point a separate entity. It got.
[1:06:10] Absorbed into cell. Yeah.
[1:06:11] And that's why the eukaryotic cells now have grown over
[1:06:15] billions of years, the dependence on it.
[1:06:18] And it became a part of the cell, which is why it is the
[1:06:20] only part of the cell which does not rely on the cellular nucleus
[1:06:24] DNA. It has its own genetic coding.
[1:06:27] Exactly. Well done.
[1:06:30] Somebody molecular biology. I am.
[1:06:31] On my way. Mitochondria is passed on from
[1:06:35] female to female right in almost unchanged 99%.
[1:06:40] So if you actually go back in your maternal inheritance, you
[1:06:42] can go back and you can get the 1st mitochondrial Eve, basically
[1:06:47] the DNA of the white. Yeah, yeah, it's very
[1:06:49] interesting. I'm so excited at the end of the
[1:06:52] day talking about whatever. No, I love that.
[1:06:55] And I was also because I was like Mitochondrial Eve.
[1:06:57] And I know there is an the the equivalent of the male heritage.
[1:07:03] Where does it come from? Remind me, Is it from the Y
[1:07:05] chromosome? Do they trace it back to the
[1:07:07] atom that it is? Yeah, you have to go back.
[1:07:09] The Y chromosome, yeah. And there is one there, one and
[1:07:12] one whatever, being that they can trace it back to where all
[1:07:15] current males are descended from, and one being that they
[1:07:18] can trace back all women who have descended from there.
[1:07:20] You go. Well done.
[1:07:21] Insane. So, and again for for context,
[1:07:25] obviously Bertie is the better person to say this, but I'll
[1:07:27] just clarify. These are not the biblical
[1:07:31] characters because they didn't even exist at the same time they
[1:07:34] were. They existed at very different
[1:07:35] times and it just means that every other lineage has died
[1:07:38] out. There were multiple females at
[1:07:41] that point. It's just that every other
[1:07:42] lineage has died out. This one lineage has continued.
[1:07:45] So that's where the mitochondria relief comes.
[1:07:47] Yeah. Yeah.
[1:07:48] My my side passion and completely hobbyistic approach
[1:07:53] to sign speed off when I I came across this trivia.
[1:07:58] I love it. All right, OK, so the Sunday
[1:08:00] quiz happens on Instagram. Go check it out.
[1:08:02] Reddit page is active. I also every time I release an
[1:08:05] episode, there's also some associated visual trivia along
[1:08:09] with the visual question, which is the social media audience
[1:08:11] question. And that is all the stuff that
[1:08:14] you have that you can follow us on Instagram or Reddit for to
[1:08:18] give us a rating on any podcasting app that you listen
[1:08:22] to us on. That helps.
[1:08:23] And actually, what helps us more is when you tell a friend or a
[1:08:27] loved one about this podcasts that helps us grow a lot.
[1:08:29] So that's great. Follow Bertie on Instagram.
[1:08:33] He does a bunch of podcasts. So you know what?
[1:08:35] He can be a gateway drug to all fun podcasts.
[1:08:38] Are you quizzing me being one of them?
[1:08:40] And Bertie, anything that the audience should look out for?
[1:08:43] Anything you're doing in the near future?
[1:08:45] Are you going to Kolkata? You know?
[1:08:47] Yeah. But apart from that and also.
[1:08:48] We need to give out our suggestions for what?
[1:08:51] Like what am I reading, What I'm listening to?
[1:08:53] Pop culture. Recommendation.
[1:08:54] Oh my God, thank you. I completely forgot.
[1:08:55] Yes, let's do pop culture recommendation.
[1:08:57] Let's start with that. What is the pop culture
[1:08:59] recommendation you have? Well, I want to.
[1:09:00] Do both. OK, let's start the pop culture
[1:09:02] recommendation. Since my camera decided to zoom
[1:09:05] in right now, what is zoomed in on me?
[1:09:07] And this vinyl right here. And this is a vinyl of this
[1:09:11] album called Grounded in Space by the band Advaita.
[1:09:14] So if you like Hindustani music and you also like Prague, like
[1:09:19] Pink Floyd and you ever thought how it would be if both of them
[1:09:23] got together, check out this album.
[1:09:25] They have two albums. So the name of the band is
[1:09:28] Advaita. They're from Delhi.
[1:09:29] Fantastic. And you can find the keyboard is
[1:09:32] Anindo Bose on Instagram. And keep Piggy him.
[1:09:35] He'll eventually say, OK, my band is playing in your city.
[1:09:37] Come, I'll, I'll meet you after the show.
[1:09:40] And you can get this vinyl and you can get it signed by the
[1:09:42] band. So grounded in space by Advaita.
[1:09:45] That's my music recommendation. The second recommendation is a
[1:09:48] brilliant book launched by Upasanasaraju from Penguin
[1:09:52] Database called Unruly, and it's about the history of the IG
[1:09:56] Nobel Prizes. And it's a really, really
[1:09:59] humorous, very funny book about science.
[1:10:03] And how about some of the craziest scientific experiments
[1:10:05] in the world? Has led to lots of interesting
[1:10:07] things. Now it's about weird stuff, but
[1:10:11] it's written with this absolutely brilliant sense of
[1:10:14] humor that Opassana has. Anybody who loves PG Wodehouse,
[1:10:19] Gerald Darrell, you know that type of comedy to read this book
[1:10:22] because it's about science. But it's written a lovely piece
[1:10:25] of humor that takes me onto the stuff that I'm doing.
[1:10:28] Lots of stuff. I'm connecting quizzes and
[1:10:30] there's a new quiz app that a friend and I are launching
[1:10:33] called QZ Want which if you're a quiz master come check us out.
[1:10:39] We have found a great way for you to make sure that you can do
[1:10:41] fun quizzes for your friends, family, wherever you are.
[1:10:43] So check us out. It's called QZ vault.
[1:10:46] I think with that I will stop and if you come and follow me
[1:10:49] I'll share and DM me. Lots of people DM me saying hey,
[1:10:53] are you the game or are you quizzing me?
[1:10:54] Love the episode please. I'm happy to say hi and put you
[1:10:57] on lots of Aditya and thank you to both of you for giving me an
[1:11:00] opportunity. That is entirely a pleasure.
[1:11:03] And yes, anybody who has discovered Birdie through Are
[1:11:06] you Using me? Hit him with Adm right now.
[1:11:08] Tell him that you love him on the episode.
[1:11:10] Tell him to. Well, I love that he travels a
[1:11:13] lot, but whenever he's not travelling to come up on the
[1:11:15] episode, Yeah, absolutely. Oh, that.
[1:11:17] Remember quickly think May 19th I am being pint of Science
[1:11:21] Bangalore where for the first time I'm talking about my work
[1:11:25] that is first line genetic therapy, Molecular biologist.
[1:11:29] Remember what we talked about South May 19th at a pub called
[1:11:33] Skydeck by Sherlock on MG Rd. I'm doing a 30 minute talk about
[1:11:37] first line genetic therapy but be full of memes, GIFs and
[1:11:40] that'll be also quiz questions and fun thing.
[1:11:43] I'm planning to play a song using my acoustic guitar where I
[1:11:48] play using only chords which are basis of the genetic code.
[1:11:52] So that'll be only AC and G, and the song will be about DNA.
[1:11:56] Oh, so cool. Well, there's no T chord, so you
[1:11:59] can't do that. But acng fantastic.
[1:12:02] I love that. Yeah, sorry, I just have to say
[1:12:04] this because I lived in Singapore.
[1:12:05] There's a double Helix bridge over there.
[1:12:07] Oh yeah. Which connects to Marina base
[1:12:09] ADS. And of course, the double Helix
[1:12:11] is the shape of the DNA in all sets.
[1:12:15] If it's DNA, it's double it. If it's RNA, it's signal.
[1:12:19] Interesting. That makes sense.
[1:12:20] Ribonucleate di ribonucleic acid.
[1:12:22] All right, fair. I'm learning so much.
[1:12:25] But in this case, I remember walking down.
[1:12:27] So there is obviously a pedestrian path also in that.
[1:12:30] And on the floor are just these tiny little lights which light
[1:12:34] it up and make it look beautiful.
[1:12:36] And in the lights, there are letters on it.
[1:12:37] And I remember the first time crossing, I was like, oh, what
[1:12:39] are these letters referencing? And it, it took me like a couple
[1:12:43] of minutes to realize it was all CGAT, which is, of course how we
[1:12:48] describe the. Yeah, yeah.
[1:12:50] The genetic code in in the DNA. So.
[1:12:53] Yeah, the people in Singapore. If you're visiting Singapore, go
[1:12:55] check out the Double Helix Bridge.
[1:12:56] You'll look at the letters on the pedestrian path and you will
[1:12:59] realize the cute little molecular biology reference over
[1:13:03] there as well. All right, fantastic.
[1:13:05] The last. Last piece that I have to.
[1:13:07] Do is social media audience question?
[1:13:09] It's a visual question, so you'll have to go look at the
[1:13:10] visual, but I'll just describe it in any case.
[1:13:13] It's a picture of a family. We have a very traditional, very
[1:13:17] lovely looking family. These are all white people.
[1:13:20] This is a mother, a father, a son and a the question is, who
[1:13:26] are these people? So obviously it's made easier
[1:13:29] when you look at the picture. And as a hint, I'll tell you
[1:13:33] that this has pop culture resonance as most of my
[1:13:36] questions do pop culture resonance till date and
[1:13:39] especially in the last couple of years, it has risen up in
[1:13:42] popularity a fair bit. Tell me who these four people
[1:13:45] are. How have they impacted pop
[1:13:48] culture across the world, America especially, but across
[1:13:50] the world as well. And that brings us to the end of
[1:13:53] the SO. Thank you so much for joining us
[1:13:55] for Episode 139. We'll be back next week.
[1:13:59] And. See you guys then.
[1:14:01] Bye bye. Take care
[1:14:13] Adams, if you hate me also please tell me.
[1:14:14] DM me and a dude you're sucky does worst.
[1:14:17] But anyway, just DM I'll say hi.

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