# No Doctor Needed? Dr. Michael Abramoff on the Potential of Autonomous AI

An episode of [NEJM AI Grand Rounds](https://invisiblenetwork.ai/podcast/1657518313), 26 Apr 2023, 1 h 05 min.

Audio: https://mcdn.podbean.com/mf/web/qtveu3/Episode_5_MIchael_Abramoff.mp3

Dr. Michael Abramoff is a renowned ophthalmologist and medical AI pioneer. In this episode, we explore his groundbreaking work that led to the first FDA-authorized device that does not require a physician, IDx-DR, which detects more than mild diabetic retinopathy from digital images of the eye. Dr. Abramoff also reflects on the challenges of commercialization, AI reimbursement, and the ethical imperatives for AI in health care centered around patient benefit. Dr. Abramoff is the Robert C. Watzke Professor of Ophthalmology and Visual Sciences at the University of Iowa and Founder & Executive Chairman of Digital Diagnostics, an autonomous AI diagnostics company that developed IDx-DR. Transcript

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