# Menace II Society REWATCH | Top 10 I arrived movies

An episode of [The Bald Brothers Podcast](https://invisiblenetwork.ai/podcast/1652772265), 27 Aug 2026, 49 min.

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[0:00] Speaker 1: What up, y'all? It's your boy Kev on stage.
[0:01] Speaker 2: Tony Baker.
[0:02] Speaker 1: Welcome to the Bald Brothers. New and improved. Today we
[0:07] Speaker 1: talking hood classic. Menace 2 Society on the rewatch tip.
[0:19] Speaker 1: No pause. We revisiting it first. I gotta bring this up, Tony.
[0:25] Speaker 1: We're gonna talk about this later. But this movie is
[0:29] Speaker 1: Lorenz Tate.
[0:31] Speaker 2: Oh, before you get to that, you want me to
[0:32] Speaker 2: do the nerd? Oh, my bad.
[0:34] Speaker 1: Box office nerd time.
[0:36] Speaker 2: Nerd it up.
[0:36] Speaker 1: Minister Society, nerd up, Tom.
[0:39] Speaker 2: All right.
[0:39] Speaker 3: Minister Society came out May 26, 1993. Limited release when
[0:42] Speaker 3: it came out. It grossed $ 27. 7 million in 1993 on
[0:49] Speaker 3: a budget of 3.5.
[0:50] Speaker 2: Oh, nice. So he was just for inflation.
[0:54] Speaker 3: That's like $ 75 million today. That did well considering the
[0:59] Speaker 3: budget and all that. And yeah, man, Menace to Society
[1:03] Speaker 3: was the movie to watch when it came out.
[1:06] Speaker 1: And the place to be. As a person, not from
[1:10] Speaker 1: Los Angeles... Did tremendous damage.
[1:14] Speaker 2: Oh, man. When I left the movie theater, I felt
[1:21] Speaker 2: like everybody wanted a piece.
[1:27] Speaker 3: The energy that was created in that movie theater after
[1:30] Speaker 3: watching Menace to Society, everybody, well, shit.
[1:34] Speaker 2: What the fuck you want to do then?
[1:39] Speaker 3: You was ready to put hands and feet or bullets
[1:42] Speaker 3: on somebody after watching that movie.
[1:46] Speaker 2: It was a very dark energy that that movie created.
[1:51] Speaker 2: Everybody was hard.
[1:53] Speaker 1: Yeah. Tyron Turner.
[1:56] Speaker 2: We was hard after that.
[1:57] Speaker 1: Lorenz Tate.
[1:59] Speaker 2: We was bloodthirsty. Like in that scene where... Kane fought
[2:04] Speaker 2: that dude that tried to ride for his cousin. He
[2:06] Speaker 2: put hands on him. The dude who did the run.
[2:09] Speaker 2: Theater went crazy. Yeah, it was wild. We bloodthirsty.
[2:14] Speaker 1: He beat the brakes off him. He beat him down.
[2:18] Speaker 1: That cost him his life. I'm going to be dead.
[2:22] Speaker 2: Kane? Oh, yeah, it cost Kane his life.
[2:25] Speaker 1: He beat him up so much, he was like, I
[2:27] Speaker 1: got to kill you.
[2:28] Speaker 2: I got to kill you.
[2:30] Speaker 1: All right, before we dump in, Tom, I want to
[2:34] Speaker 1: cue this up because I know you're going to show
[2:35] Speaker 1: them some love. The Hughes Brothers killed it with this movie.
[2:41] Speaker 1: Tell the people the other things they know the Hughes
[2:43] Speaker 1: Brothers from.
[2:43] Speaker 2: For the Hughes Brothers, this was their directorial debut. They
[2:46] Speaker 2: also did music videos, and they also directed their president, president,
[2:52] Speaker 2: their follow-up to this. They did From Hell with Johnny Depp.
[2:56] Speaker 2: They also did The Book of Eli with Denzel Washington.
[3:00] Speaker 1: What a range of films.
[3:01] Speaker 2: Me personally, I feel like they don't make enough movies. Yeah, yeah.
[3:05] Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying? I feel like it's not enough.
[3:08] Speaker 2: We need more Hughes Brothers films. Yeah.
[3:11] Speaker 1: But imagine their first directorial debut is also Lorenz Tate's
[3:15] Speaker 1: first movie. I think he was 15 when he booked this.
[3:18] Speaker 2: Oh, wow. He's that young?
[3:19] Speaker 1: Might have been 17 when he shot. I was just
[3:22] Speaker 1: watching a video about it when we were doing the research.
[3:26] Speaker 1: Let's pull him up. Lorenz Tate. Because he looked super young.
[3:31] Speaker 2: He's 1975.
[3:31] Speaker 1: 75, 85.
[3:31] Speaker 2: So he was... No, that's not. 1975, 85, he was 10.
[3:33] Speaker 2: So 93, he was 18. So yeah, he was 17
[3:44] Speaker 2: when he shot this. Wow.
[3:46] Speaker 1: I was watching the movie. He's like, that's my first role.
[3:47] Speaker 1: I was 17. 17 years old. He looks 17.
[3:50] Speaker 2: He does look younger than he does.
[3:51] Speaker 1: That's what was so terrifying about him as O-Dog. The
[3:55] Speaker 1: first line, do y'all remember the first line of Men's Society? Hey, nigga,
[4:00] Speaker 1: there gonna be some pussy in this mother effer. Wow.
[4:04] Speaker 2: That's what they were saying during the new line.
[4:07] Speaker 1: On the black screen. I paused it. I said, I
[4:10] Speaker 1: don't remember.
[4:11] Speaker 2: We get right into it.
[4:13] Speaker 1: Tone. Okay, now let me tell you what was crazy
[4:15] Speaker 1: about Men's Society. You start off in the Asian convenience
[4:23] Speaker 1: store and the Korean people are following Kane and O-Dog around.
[4:31] Speaker 1: As I'm watching Medicine Society on the rewatch for the podcast,
[4:36] Speaker 1: in South Carolina, Rick Chow, Asian convenience store owner, is
[4:42] Speaker 1: following around a black child. And in my head, I'm like, yo,
[4:46] Speaker 1: 30 years has passed.
[4:47] Speaker 2: Yeah.
[4:47] Speaker 1: 33 years and nothing has changed. Somebody's still getting followed
[4:55] Speaker 1: around by an Asian store owner and ended in violence.
[5:00] Speaker 1: I mean, in real life, obviously the black child lost
[5:03] Speaker 1: his life. But in the movie, old dog kills the people.
[5:11] Speaker 1: And I forgot, Menace is, I'm sorry, Don't Be a Menace.
[5:16] Speaker 1: They parodied a lot of hood movies, but Menace to
[5:20] Speaker 1: Society was the one that they like.
[5:25] Speaker 2: That was the anchor.
[5:26] Speaker 1: That was the anchor movie that they followed. But yeah,
[5:31] Speaker 1: when he shot that person and then was like, I
[5:37] Speaker 1: was like, man.
[5:39] Speaker 2: He killed those people.
[5:40] Speaker 3: And in the original script, it was a little bit different.
[5:44] Speaker 3: He kills the man, but he lets the wife and
[5:48] Speaker 3: the child live.
[5:50] Speaker 2: Oh, really? There's a wife and a child in the
[5:52] Speaker 2: original script.
[5:52] Speaker 1: Okay, okay.
[5:53] Speaker 2: And then they just end up going back to wherever
[5:55] Speaker 2: they came from.
[5:56] Speaker 1: Yeah.
[5:56] Speaker 2: They didn't press no charges. They just left. Yeah. So
[5:59] Speaker 2: in the script, he just killed the guy.
[6:03] Speaker 3: And I thought that was an interesting shift.
[6:06] Speaker 2: And the movie is like both of y'all.
[6:07] Speaker 1: He not only killed him, Tone, he's showing the robbery
[6:11] Speaker 1: murder like a mixtape.
[6:13] Speaker 2: Yeah. He's going around. Look at what I did, y'all.
[6:16] Speaker 2: And they all in the community, man. Put that tape
[6:19] Speaker 2: back on. What? Put that tape back on. And it's
[6:23] Speaker 2: me murdering people? And you know what's funny?
[6:26] Speaker 3: Given his age, that's totally believable. I know we looking
[6:31] Speaker 3: at it with grown eyes.
[6:32] Speaker 2: We're like, you big dummy. But when you a teenager.
[6:36] Speaker 3: It's all about rep and your name in that environment
[6:40] Speaker 3: where we all outlaws, we showing the tape.
[6:43] Speaker 1: I'm showing the tape because that rep's gonna give me
[6:47] Speaker 1: credibility with the men. It's gonna get me coochie. In
[6:52] Speaker 1: that environment, you the hardest nigga out here. You getting coochie. Right?
[6:58] Speaker 1: And it's going to strike fear into the hearts of men?
[7:00] Speaker 2: Yep. And you 17? Get the word out.
[7:03] Speaker 1: With the braids?
[7:05] Speaker 2: Get the word out. I'll be killing people at convenience stores. Yes.
[7:08] Speaker 1: I'll kill you too. Ron Schell said people do it
[7:11] Speaker 1: for the gram today. That's the beauty of it. They
[7:14] Speaker 1: doing it for the gram.
[7:16] Speaker 2: They will be on a live stream unaliving people.
[7:20] Speaker 1: Absolutely. They're doing it now. There's so many cases that
[7:23] Speaker 1: Mel covers on I'm Not a Lawyer, but where the
[7:28] Speaker 1: people are beefing, and they'll go to the grave site,
[7:31] Speaker 1: we killed this nigga, dropped this nigga, your homeboy dead,
[7:34] Speaker 1: in music videos. Like, it's not uncommon today. It just,
[7:38] Speaker 1: in that time, you had to like, put the tape in.
[7:41] Speaker 1: You know, I'm going to show Clifton Powell the tape.
[7:44] Speaker 2: And it's sad. It sounds dumb, but it's sadly realistic.
[7:49] Speaker 3: And I like the fact that Lorenz Tate looks like that.
[7:52] Speaker 3: Because that's what these killers and these young kids are
[7:55] Speaker 3: looking like. They babies out here and they the scariest ones.
[8:00] Speaker 1: When Mel covered the Julio-Fulio trial, Tone, the dude looked
[8:04] Speaker 1: like our sons did in like eighth grade. Like what
[8:08] Speaker 1: you doing killing somebody?
[8:11] Speaker 2: Because they young.
[8:12] Speaker 1: And as a father, you know, like, even though you
[8:15] Speaker 1: see your son today, your mind takes him back 15
[8:18] Speaker 1: years ago. But he actually is the age. They are children,
[8:23] Speaker 1: you know, going off. But yeah. Also, this was just
[8:27] Speaker 1: interesting because we was rewatching this and You Got Served
[8:31] Speaker 1: in the same week. Megan Good and Jada Pinkett Smith
[8:35] Speaker 1: were the same age as actresses in both of those movies.
[8:40] Speaker 1: They were both 22 when they shot that. Jada Pinkett
[8:45] Speaker 1: Smith's character, what she had to deal with was making
[8:49] Speaker 1: good characters.
[8:51] Speaker 2: Making good just out here having a good time. I'm beautiful.
[8:55] Speaker 2: Hanging out.
[8:56] Speaker 1: Hanging out, dancing.
[8:57] Speaker 2: No kids to raise. Going to work. Milkshakes.
[9:01] Speaker 1: Jada Pinkett Smith got baby father problems.
[9:05] Speaker 2: Yeah, Anthony. Yeah. That was her son's name, Anthony.
[9:10] Speaker 1: She got sexual assault. She got her boyfriend getting murdered.
[9:14] Speaker 1: I got, first of all, black people been trying to
[9:17] Speaker 1: move to Atlanta.
[9:18] Speaker 2: To better their lives since Minister Society. I'm moving to Atlanta, man.
[9:22] Speaker 1: Jada Pinkett Smith said, my child make $ 36, 000. I'm moving
[9:25] Speaker 1: to Atlanta. And that was like, you got to go.
[9:29] Speaker 2: Atlanta is better there. It's Atlanta. It's Atlanta, man. Anything
[9:33] Speaker 2: better than here.
[9:34] Speaker 1: And Atlanta people, let us move there. Every time I
[9:37] Speaker 1: talk about wanting to move to Atlanta, we fool, we fool.
[9:39] Speaker 2: Move to McDonough. Nah. Man, the traffic is crazy in Atlanta,
[9:45] Speaker 2: so I get it. It might be the only place
[9:47] Speaker 2: that's worse than Atlanta. I hate the traffic in Atlanta.
[9:49] Speaker 2: To me, it feels worse.
[9:50] Speaker 1: It feels worse because.
[9:52] Speaker 2: We be on the back roads in traffic.
[9:55] Speaker 1: You be on the back roads far out. Yeah. In L.A.,
[9:59] Speaker 1: I can say 118, 210, 134.
[10:05] Speaker 2: Large pockets of freeway where there.
[10:07] Speaker 1: Won't be no traffic.
[10:08] Speaker 2: Right, right.
[10:08] Speaker 1: In Atlanta, man.
[10:10] Speaker 2: Everywhere.
[10:11] Speaker 1: On the plane!
[10:13] Speaker 2: Yeah.
[10:13] Speaker 1: Flying into Atlanta, you in traffic.
[10:15] Speaker 2: Traffic. Traffic on the way to Hartsfield, Jackson.
[10:18] Speaker 1: Airplane, you like this.
[10:20] Speaker 2: Slowing down in midair. We sat still midair. Like, man,
[10:25] Speaker 2: this traffic crazy. It's be like, McDonough is far out.
[10:30] Speaker 1: Why is there?
[10:30] Speaker 2: And then all the back roads. You think we don't
[10:33] Speaker 2: know about the back roads? We out here too. There's
[10:36] Speaker 2: traffic near the creek. We back here. This is worse
[10:40] Speaker 2: to me, man.
[10:41] Speaker 1: It's worse because LA, okay, 405, but you get that.
[10:45] Speaker 1: But there's, I don't deal with traffic every day in LA.
[10:48] Speaker 1: Like I can go, I came here, no traffic. I
[10:50] Speaker 1: can go to your house, no traffic. If I went
[10:51] Speaker 1: to Josh's house, no traffic. In Atlanta, what you mean
[10:56] Speaker 1: no traffic? You dealing with it.
[10:58] Speaker 2: I hate it, dog.
[10:59] Speaker 1: You dealing with the traffic. But anyway, back to menacing society.
[11:03] Speaker 2: But another thing in the script, Jada Pinkett had two
[11:08] Speaker 2: kids in the original script. Oh! Yeah, but this time,
[11:11] Speaker 2: you know, she just got Anthony. And Anthony, he got
[11:14] Speaker 2: to be a good six, seven?
[11:16] Speaker 1: Yeah, he was six, seven.
[11:17] Speaker 2: That means she had him. She was 15. She was young.
[11:20] Speaker 1: She was in the... And this is what I... This
[11:22] Speaker 1: is my favorite thing about men's society.
[11:25] Speaker 2: Where they.
[11:26] Speaker 1: Hughes Brothers did an amazing job. Kane's story. My dad
[11:31] Speaker 1: was a drug dealer. Sam Jackson, great.
[11:32] Speaker 2: Oh, he was great. Real cameo.
[11:34] Speaker 1: My dad's a drug dealer. My mom's in the life too.
[11:38] Speaker 1: They think it's funny to.
[11:39] Speaker 2: Give me beer and guns.
[11:41] Speaker 1: Nobody is stopping any of the grown folks. With Jada
[11:46] Speaker 1: Pinkett's son, same thing is happening. Kane is showing him
[11:50] Speaker 1: how to handle the gun. They on the porch. But
[11:53] Speaker 1: then somebody's like, yo, man, don't. The brother who, Sharif,
[11:59] Speaker 1: Chris Spencer's character in Don't Be A Menace. He's like
[12:04] Speaker 1: the voice of reason.
[12:05] Speaker 2: Right. And then he gets murdered.
[12:08] Speaker 1: And he's the one that's like, bro, don't do that
[12:10] Speaker 1: to him. Don't give him the beer. And you see
[12:12] Speaker 1: how the movie basically shows this is a cycle of violence.
[12:16] Speaker 1: And if somebody doesn't stop the cycle, if you don't
[12:18] Speaker 1: move to Atlanta, you don't have a Sharif in the case,
[12:20] Speaker 1: you're going to end up the same way Cain's dad
[12:24] Speaker 1: created Cain. Cain was going to be on the path
[12:26] Speaker 1: to creating Anthony to do the same thing. I feel
[12:29] Speaker 1: like that was such a good point to make. And
[12:33] Speaker 1: that was also a violent movie.
[12:35] Speaker 2: Oh, super violent, man. Super violent. We opened up two murders.
[12:40] Speaker 2: Horrible murders. Later on, old dog is just like, yo, man,
[12:44] Speaker 2: let me suck your dick.
[12:45] Speaker 1: What? For cheeseburgers.
[12:48] Speaker 2: For cheeseburgers.
[12:49] Speaker 1: I also forgot that's where that came from.
[12:53] Speaker 2: I got these cheeseburgers, man. And then when he killed
[12:58] Speaker 2: the crackhead. Kept the burgers. Kept the burgers.
[13:01] Speaker 1: They were just like, oh, dog.
[13:03] Speaker 2: You crazy, man. MC8 was standing there talking to that girl. Like, man,
[13:09] Speaker 2: what you doing over there? He always doing some dumb shit.
[13:12] Speaker 2: Y'all don't want no cheeseburgers, man? Go home, man. Casual.
[13:15] Speaker 1: Menace to society, Tone.
[13:18] Speaker 2: Casual.
[13:19] Speaker 1: He murdered somebody at 317.
[13:22] Speaker 2: And the cool part is, they all kill us. Yes.
[13:27] Speaker 2: AWACS was in the car. They arguing in the car, man. Man,
[13:30] Speaker 2: you scared, man. You acting like a little bitch right now.
[13:33] Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying? They murdered your goddamn cousin,
[13:35] Speaker 2: and you ain't going to do shit? You acting like
[13:37] Speaker 2: a little bitch right now, man. Both of y'all shut
[13:40] Speaker 2: the fuck up, man. Scared to peel these niggas' cap.
[13:43] Speaker 1: Back, man.
[13:44] Speaker 2: Man, give me my joint. And then you just like that.
[13:47] Speaker 2: And then when Kane has to go through with the
[13:50] Speaker 2: get back, He missing. He shooting. Yeah, he not ready.
[13:56] Speaker 2: AWACS comes in, finish the job like it's nothing. Like, hey, homie,
[14:00] Speaker 2: you need some help? Pap, pap. Man. Pap up close. Pap,
[14:04] Speaker 2: pap for the finish. He killed him a lot. Punk
[14:06] Speaker 2: ass niggas. Come on, niggas. And then they just out.
[14:10] Speaker 1: Then they dipped.
[14:11] Speaker 2: They put in dominoes the next day.
[14:14] Speaker 1: Like nothing. The title Menace to Society, O-Dog delivered on
[14:19] Speaker 1: that within the first five minutes.
[14:21] Speaker 2: And they just kept being Menace to Society.
[14:24] Speaker 3: And the good kid was a menace. He shot somebody.
[14:29] Speaker 3: He didn't kill them all, but he did shoot somebody.
[14:31] Speaker 3: He was carjacking. He was beating cats down.
[14:35] Speaker 1: For rides for the army. His grandparents were like, get
[14:38] Speaker 1: the hell out of here, man.
[14:40] Speaker 2: You got the devil in you. He pistol whipped somebody.
[14:44] Speaker 1: He got the girl pregnant and was like, that ain't.
[14:46] Speaker 2: Mine, baby. That ain't mine, man.
[14:47] Speaker 3: I had the jimmy on extra tight. How you gonna
[14:51] Speaker 3: have the jimmy on extra tight? What does that even mean?
[14:54] Speaker 3: I had the jimmy on extra tight.
[14:56] Speaker 1: And first of all, you're not even supposed to pull
[14:57] Speaker 1: that extra tight.
[14:59] Speaker 2: You were the only one I've been with, hey, man.
[15:02] Speaker 2: I don't know what to tell you. I don't know
[15:06] Speaker 2: what to tell you. Because the cousin had to ride
[15:08] Speaker 2: for her honor.
[15:09] Speaker 1: Remember how he ran?
[15:10] Speaker 2: He was running, he was like. And then he beat
[15:14] Speaker 2: the shit out of him. When the grandparents finally kicked
[15:18] Speaker 2: him out, I was like, man, fair. Yeah. Because you
[15:22] Speaker 2: are hell, man. You are a menace to society.
[15:25] Speaker 1: You and your friend, you are awful. Old Dog is
[15:29] Speaker 1: just worse. Yeah, because.
[15:32] Speaker 3: The thing about Kane is there was hope with him.
[15:37] Speaker 2: There was hope. As much as he was doing, he
[15:41] Speaker 2: still had a conscience. He was still like, I ain't
[15:43] Speaker 2: killing no kids or no old folks. Old dog was like, man,
[15:46] Speaker 2: I don't give a fuck who out there. I don't
[15:50] Speaker 2: care who out there, man. Cause he kept barking at
[15:52] Speaker 2: him without like looking directly at him. He was like,
[15:55] Speaker 2: I don't care who out there is just looking and arguing.
[15:59] Speaker 2: But he still, there was still hope.
[16:01] Speaker 3: He still had some, like, you know, when Jada Pickett
[16:03] Speaker 3: went off on him for having a gun with her son.
[16:05] Speaker 1: Yeah.
[16:06] Speaker 2: And then he's just like, you know what, man? He
[16:08] Speaker 2: was still just, like, thinking about stuff. Yeah. And he
[16:11] Speaker 2: was going to move to Atlanta.
[16:12] Speaker 3: And then when his boy was just like, hey, man,
[16:14] Speaker 3: you know, when he was telling him at the prison
[16:17] Speaker 3: what to do.
[16:18] Speaker 2: Like, he still had a soul. He was still reachable. Yeah.
[16:21] Speaker 2: He was listening to Sharice Pop.
[16:23] Speaker 1: He was listening to Rock.
[16:24] Speaker 2: He was like, the hunt is on. And you're the prey. Man,
[16:28] Speaker 2: Charles is dead.
[16:29] Speaker 1: Charles Dunbar is a father.
[16:33] Speaker 2: Man, he be acting.
[16:35] Speaker 1: He yoked up Clifton Powell in that episode of Rock.
[16:39] Speaker 1: He was so mad, he said Clifton. Yeah.
[16:42] Speaker 2: That was not that character's name. He was like, yo, Charles. Charles. Oh, no,
[16:48] Speaker 2: that's what it was.
[16:48] Speaker 1: Yeah, he was a Charles.
[16:50] Speaker 2: Yeah, because he, Charles doesn't get his flowers.
[16:54] Speaker 1: Tone, when he is locked in, he's not playing. And
[16:58] Speaker 1: he go from zero to 60, like.
[17:00] Speaker 2: For sure. He's intense. The hot is on. You're the prick.
[17:04] Speaker 1: Even the way he clapped in Rudy, it was like.
[17:06] Speaker 2: Oh, yeah, man.
[17:07] Speaker 3: He delivered in everything I've seen him in. Even in
[17:10] Speaker 3: Lowdown Dirty Shame, he delivered. But like, but those moments
[17:15] Speaker 3: was just like, Kane was savable. He was just a
[17:20] Speaker 3: product of his environment.
[17:21] Speaker 2: Odog.
[17:21] Speaker 1: Have you seen that Dr. Umar clip where he's like,
[17:24] Speaker 1: we ain't gonna be able to save all of y'all.
[17:25] Speaker 1: Some of y'all need to go to sleep. He talking
[17:29] Speaker 1: about Odog. There is no reconciliation. There's no rehabilitation. From
[17:35] Speaker 1: the jump, you like, O-Dog is just not gonna be right.
[17:41] Speaker 1: Funniest thing about O-Dog, his name was Kevin. Kevin?
[17:47] Speaker 2: You ain't know Kevin, man.
[17:49] Speaker 3: He didn't even know how to respond to like regular grandparents.
[17:54] Speaker 2: He just didn't even know how to act. Like he
[17:57] Speaker 2: wasn't rude, but he was just like, oh. Yeah. You
[18:00] Speaker 2: know what I'm saying? They known him.
[18:02] Speaker 3: But O-Dog was just, he was just a nightmare though.
[18:07] Speaker 3: And he missed when the time counted.
[18:09] Speaker 2: He did. He gonna miss the shots. He missed. He
[18:14] Speaker 2: hit nobody when Kane was getting lit up.
[18:17] Speaker 1: And them people who shot Kane, they had Game of
[18:20] Speaker 1: Thrones arrow level accuracy.
[18:24] Speaker 2: They lit his chest.
[18:25] Speaker 1: They were like.
[18:29] Speaker 1: Like there was.
[18:31] Speaker 1: We did good, y'all. There's no way he survived that.
[18:35] Speaker 2: We got him, y'all. Look at him. He's spitting up blood, y'all.
[18:38] Speaker 2: He gone. It was the second time he got shot
[18:40] Speaker 2: in that movie.
[18:41] Speaker 1: It was the second time. And he was also scared.
[18:44] Speaker 1: Remember when he got shot? He was scared.
[18:47] Speaker 2: Remember how Old Dog made fun of him?
[18:48] Speaker 1: Like, man, you was scared you was going to die.
[18:51] Speaker 1: I was like, man, what kind of world you living
[18:54] Speaker 1: when you get shot and they make fun of you
[18:55] Speaker 1: for being scared about dying?
[18:56] Speaker 2: He was scared, man. He saw it, y'all. He got shot.
[18:59] Speaker 2: He almost died. He was scared. So it's just like, man.
[19:04] Speaker 2: But that's the beauty of that.
[19:06] Speaker 1: Yeah.
[19:07] Speaker 3: It was like, we're going to show you the other
[19:09] Speaker 3: side of boys in the hood.
[19:11] Speaker 2: For sure. We're going to show you how to catch
[19:14] Speaker 2: with the jerry curl and the bull's beanie. You with
[19:18] Speaker 2: them the whole movie.
[19:20] Speaker 1: The people who wrote the window down on Ricky, if
[19:23] Speaker 1: you follow that movie, that's Minister Society.
[19:26] Speaker 2: After they just shot Ricky, Minister Society begins from their POV.
[19:31] Speaker 1: And the thing is, not being from L.A. and being
[19:34] Speaker 1: a child, Boyz n the Hood was already like, man,
[19:37] Speaker 1: is it like that?
[19:39] Speaker 2: Dang, L.A.
[19:40] Speaker 1: Minister Society was like, it gets worse.
[19:42] Speaker 2: Let me show you how they got down. Let me
[19:46] Speaker 2: show you how the good kid is even bad.
[19:48] Speaker 1: Good kid, Mad City. That's what was great. Also, I realized,
[19:53] Speaker 1: or my question is, did we start calling Jack in
[19:57] Speaker 1: the Box Jack in the Crack from this movie?
[20:00] Speaker 2: Oh, yeah.
[20:01] Speaker 1: Because I've been saying Jack in the Crack forever. And
[20:04] Speaker 1: when I rewatched it, I said, yo, did Minister Society
[20:07] Speaker 1: introduce Jack in the Crack to the nation? Because we
[20:12] Speaker 1: had Jack in the Box in Washington, but I didn't
[20:14] Speaker 1: grow up with Jack in the Box. I didn't grow
[20:17] Speaker 1: up with it either. There was no Jack in the
[20:18] Speaker 1: Box in El Paso, no Jack in the Box in
[20:21] Speaker 1: North Carolina or Virginia. But in Washington, people already called
[20:25] Speaker 1: it Jack in the Crack. So when I watched the movie,
[20:27] Speaker 1: I was like, That and you got snaps.
[20:30] Speaker 2: On the petrol. Who got snaps on the petrol? Snaps
[20:33] Speaker 2: on the petrol come from that movie. For sure.
[20:37] Speaker 1: That entered to the lexicon of black. Snaps on the petrol.
[20:41] Speaker 1: I said that in high school, not even connecting that.
[20:44] Speaker 1: I heard that from minutes of society as a kid.
[20:46] Speaker 2: Got some snaps on the petrol. Man. And, you know, Chauncey. Yeah.
[20:53] Speaker 2: Chauncey ass. You know what I'm saying? Chauncey was just
[20:55] Speaker 2: up to no good. Clifton Powell. Clifton Powell, man. They
[20:58] Speaker 2: had a great cast in this thing. Bill Duke. You
[21:00] Speaker 2: know he done that stuff right. Man. And you know what?
[21:03] Speaker 3: That dude in the beginning sealed his own fate. The
[21:05] Speaker 3: dude that Kane Pops killed, Sam Jackson.
[21:08] Speaker 2: The dude owed him money.
[21:10] Speaker 1: Man, come on, bro.
[21:11] Speaker 2: Like, hey, man, I'll pay you when I feel like it.
[21:13] Speaker 2: Just the utmost disrespect. Then when you get the gun
[21:16] Speaker 2: pulled out, you be like, man, you better suck my dick.
[21:19] Speaker 2: That bitch. He could have still survived. He was just like, man,
[21:25] Speaker 2: I'll pay you when I feel like it.
[21:27] Speaker 3: They could have knuckled up after that. But then when
[21:30] Speaker 3: I'm just like, hey man, and then you like, yo,
[21:32] Speaker 3: suck my dick, you might as well just put the
[21:34] Speaker 3: gun in your own mouth.
[21:36] Speaker 2: And pull the trigger. Because why was you talking that crazy?
[21:40] Speaker 2: Once you tell a man that, there's no coming back.
[21:43] Speaker 1: No, no.
[21:44] Speaker 2: I got to kill you.
[21:45] Speaker 1: In this world, You have disrespected me beyond.
[21:49] Speaker 2: I have to kill you.
[21:50] Speaker 1: I have to kill you.
[21:50] Speaker 2: I don't even want to. Even people that's not in
[21:52] Speaker 2: that world, it's like, yo, man, I have to kill you.
[21:55] Speaker 2: Come on, man. Because why are you talking?
[21:58] Speaker 1: You owe me money.
[22:00] Speaker 3: Man to man. Suck my dick. There's no coming back
[22:04] Speaker 3: from that. We got to kick it up a notch.
[22:07] Speaker 3: We're not going to be cool again after this.
[22:09] Speaker 2: Oh, my God. There's no. Sam Jackson shot him with
[22:13] Speaker 2: a revolver. He was like, bye. I better stood up.
[22:17] Speaker 2: AJ said, you owe me money. He was like, nah,
[22:19] Speaker 2: but here you go. You know what I'm saying? Also,
[22:26] Speaker 2: OG Bobby Johnson. OG Bobby Johnson.
[22:29] Speaker 1: He was just, in the 90s, man, this is what
[22:32] Speaker 1: I got to play. This is my role. But when
[22:35] Speaker 1: he was in jail, he was like, man, Take care
[22:38] Speaker 1: of her.
[22:39] Speaker 2: Hold it down. Go to Atlanta. I'm not getting out
[22:42] Speaker 2: of here.
[22:43] Speaker 1: Bro, I'm cool. And we shouldn't have been doing that
[22:47] Speaker 1: to you. When you were young, that's what I do
[22:50] Speaker 1: like that the Hughes brothers did. I wouldn't say they
[22:55] Speaker 1: glorified violence. They highlighted the way the world was, but
[22:59] Speaker 1: also showed you how it it stays like that, right?
[23:04] Speaker 1: Cause you know, obviously this is like crack era, Reaganomics,
[23:06] Speaker 1: all that stuff, but he's not even saying this is
[23:09] Speaker 1: black people's fault, but he's saying like, this is the
[23:11] Speaker 1: cycle that keeps us there. If I beat you up,
[23:15] Speaker 1: stomp you out, you tell your friends, you gotta come
[23:18] Speaker 1: back and I gotta one up you. So now you
[23:20] Speaker 1: killed me, right? So now, now O-Dog gotta go back
[23:24] Speaker 1: and kill their dude. And it's just, every time you
[23:28] Speaker 1: kill somebody, you create a new enemy, you create a new,
[23:30] Speaker 1: all because Kane had the Jimmy on extra tight.
[23:33] Speaker 2: Extra tight. He ain't had that Jimmy on. He smashed
[23:36] Speaker 2: raw and he just didn't want to own up. He
[23:38] Speaker 2: didn't want to own up.
[23:39] Speaker 1: He robbed the dude for the Dayton's, didn't order the
[23:41] Speaker 1: cheeseburger in the drive-thru.
[23:42] Speaker 2: He's like, let me get a double burger, some fries.
[23:45] Speaker 2: I think I said cheese on it. We supposed to
[23:49] Speaker 2: be brothers. Are you trying to kick some knowledge back
[23:51] Speaker 2: in here? Man, that movie was crazy, man, but it
[23:59] Speaker 2: lived up to the title. It lived up to the title.
[24:02] Speaker 2: Thousand percent.
[24:04] Speaker 1: You robbing a nigga and swing by the burger plate.
[24:07] Speaker 2: Nigga, I said cheese. Honestly, if I'm already robbing you,
[24:11] Speaker 2: I'm already in your car, at the drive-thru, I'm going to.
[24:15] Speaker 1: Get some food as well.
[24:16] Speaker 2: Well, I mean.
[24:18] Speaker 1: The robbery makes me hungry.
[24:19] Speaker 2: Let me get a shake and a burger. Might as well.
[24:26] Speaker 2: Why are you here? Might as well. I'm going to eat.
[24:29] Speaker 1: Also, ain't the dude that Kane stomped out, he's in
[24:35] Speaker 1: another movie playing a similar character.
[24:36] Speaker 2: He's in Players Club.
[24:38] Speaker 1: Players Club.
[24:39] Speaker 3: He's a shady dude that assaults Diamond's cousin.
[24:44] Speaker 1: The girl who said, I'm just here to dance, that's it?
[24:47] Speaker 1: He just was shady.
[24:48] Speaker 3: Yeah, because he did something to it because he came
[24:50] Speaker 3: out of that room looking crazy.
[24:52] Speaker 1: Yeah, he did.
[24:54] Speaker 2: Yeah, he was in there. His name is Caffeine. That's
[24:56] Speaker 2: his rap name, Caffeine. Yeah, he.
[25:00] Speaker 1: I think he's been having some health issues. He did,
[25:01] Speaker 1: he did. He passed?
[25:04] Speaker 2: No, he's alive. Oh, okay.
[25:05] Speaker 1: But he's been having some health issues.
[25:06] Speaker 2: All right, let's move on. Oh, and I want to
[25:09] Speaker 2: say this, too. Say this, Tom. This is a society,
[25:11] Speaker 2: you can tell that the Hughes brothers were inspired by
[25:15] Speaker 2: Martin Scorsese. You can tell that's an influence because of
[25:18] Speaker 2: how they shot it.
[25:20] Speaker 3: Like they open up the film early on with the
[25:22] Speaker 3: going through the party, introducing you to the different characters
[25:26] Speaker 3: and stuff like that. So you can see the direct
[25:29] Speaker 3: connection between the Hughes brothers and Martin Scorsese. This is their,
[25:34] Speaker 3: you know, Goodfellas was our introduction into the mob life
[25:38] Speaker 3: that was very violent, very volatile.
[25:40] Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying?
[25:41] Speaker 2: Showing you the different characters. You can tell they drew
[25:43] Speaker 2: from that.
[25:44] Speaker 1: Yeah.
[25:44] Speaker 2: I was like, oh, I see what they did there.
[25:46] Speaker 2: They did good.
[25:46] Speaker 1: He was also in Set It Off, too. That's what
[25:48] Speaker 1: I was thinking of.
[25:49] Speaker 2: Oh, he's in Set It Off as well?
[25:50] Speaker 1: He was the brother. He was with the friend. He
[25:54] Speaker 1: had the haircut with the Acorn. Was it Acorn Projects?
[25:58] Speaker 2: Oh, okay.
[25:59] Speaker 1: I ain't seen Set It Off in a minute.
[26:00] Speaker 2: Was he a friend of Jada Pinkett's brother? Yes. Okay. Yes.
[26:03] Speaker 1: Remember, her brother was good. He was with the bad people.
[26:06] Speaker 1: He got the same haircut. I think they killed him
[26:09] Speaker 1: because they thought he was, oh, boy, with the Acorn
[26:12] Speaker 1: Projects haircut. But since Lorenz Tate was, that was his
[26:21] Speaker 1: first movie performance, we are having a small discussion here, Tone.
[26:26] Speaker 1: Top 10 movies where an actor or actress announced, I'm here.
[26:34] Speaker 1: I arrived.
[26:35] Speaker 2: Lorenz Tate announced he arrived.
[26:38] Speaker 1: That was his arrival. Been a 17 years old shot
[26:41] Speaker 1: at 18 when it released.
[26:42] Speaker 2: Yeah.
[26:43] Speaker 1: What's next?
[26:45] Speaker 2: Eddie Murphy, 48 Hours. Man. That's an arrival for your
[26:50] Speaker 2: ass right there. Yes. He came in. He came in, what,
[26:54] Speaker 2: 40 minutes into the movie? That shit took off. 1,000%.
[26:59] Speaker 2: That movie is a.
[27:01] Speaker 1: From the moment they opened that... Actually, before they even
[27:04] Speaker 1: opened it. Before you see him. You hear him singing Roxanne.
[27:06] Speaker 2: You hear him. You like... I said... From that moment...
[27:11] Speaker 2: Till now. Roxanne!
[27:14] Speaker 1: Till today. Till today. Eddie Murphy been here. He been
[27:17] Speaker 1: that dude ever since. He pushed.
[27:20] Speaker 2: Nick Nolte.
[27:22] Speaker 1: Watch out, man.
[27:23] Speaker 2: Yeah. This is my movie now. This is my movie now.
[27:26] Speaker 1: You had 48 minutes. And all they gonna remember is me. Yeah. Martin,
[27:33] Speaker 1: who's your boy from The Godfather?
[27:34] Speaker 2: From the devil's actor? The actor.
[27:40] Speaker 1: Who's The Godfather? I can't think of his name.
[27:41] Speaker 2: Marlon Brando.
[27:42] Speaker 1: Marlon Brando said that scene where Eddie Murphy said, I'm
[27:46] Speaker 1: the nigga in charge, whatever the line is. He said,
[27:48] Speaker 1: you a star. He said, I've never seen a black
[27:51] Speaker 1: man take a scene like that. He said, you out
[27:54] Speaker 1: of here from that scene alone. Nick Nolte, that's his movie.
[27:58] Speaker 1: At least he thought it was.
[27:59] Speaker 2: Boy, watch out. Once Reggie Hammond shows up.
[28:04] Speaker 1: Eddie Murphy is like, nigga, this is my movie.
[28:07] Speaker 2: It was a wrap, man. We giving you all the
[28:09] Speaker 2: money in the world.
[28:10] Speaker 1: Yeah.
[28:10] Speaker 2: All right, mine is.
[28:13] Speaker 1: Angela Bassett, What's Love Got to Do With It?
[28:15] Speaker 2: Okay.
[28:16] Speaker 1: She said, I'm here.
[28:19] Speaker 2: This was the moment. That's my first movie I remember
[28:21] Speaker 2: seeing her in. You see them boys in there? Okay.
[28:27] Speaker 1: I seen her in that, but I feel like it
[28:28] Speaker 1: didn't register. She's kind of like Viola Davidson in Antoine
[28:33] Speaker 1: Fisher for me. Because I saw Boys in the Hood
[28:35] Speaker 1: when I was a kid. So I wasn't like... And
[28:37] Speaker 1: Trey's mom is in there. Like, you know, she's in
[28:39] Speaker 1: there for your style. She registered to me in What's
[28:43] Speaker 1: Love Got.
[28:44] Speaker 2: To Do With It.
[28:47] Speaker 1: First of all, I shouldn't have been watching that as
[28:48] Speaker 1: a kid as I look back.
[28:49] Speaker 2: What's Love Got to Do With It?
[28:50] Speaker 1: Yeah, it was... Hard sell for a child. What year
[28:53] Speaker 1: was that?
[28:53] Speaker 2: 93? 93?
[28:53] Speaker 1: You're 10 years old. Somebody should have been watching me.
[28:58] Speaker 3: But I feel like this, man. This could be a
[29:02] Speaker 3: controversial parental take.
[29:05] Speaker 2: But I feel like kids should watch it all. Not
[29:09] Speaker 2: sexually explicit. Yes. But they should be watching grown shit.
[29:14] Speaker 1: I agree with this. Outside of the sex scenes.
[29:17] Speaker 2: Outside of the sex.
[29:18] Speaker 1: But I think one of my greatest joys as a child...
[29:22] Speaker 1: Watching movies, I know I.
[29:24] Speaker 2: Ain't had no business.
[29:25] Speaker 3: Yeah, man, because it teaches you a lot, and it
[29:27] Speaker 3: helps you. To me, I feel like it helps you
[29:31] Speaker 3: throughout life. Like, I saw Scarface at a young age,
[29:35] Speaker 3: and I knew, oh, I'll never do cocaine.
[29:38] Speaker 2: Really? That did not sell me on cocaine. I was like,
[29:42] Speaker 2: I don't want no positive cocaine. Nothing good can come
[29:44] Speaker 2: from this. Nothing good is coming out of cocaine. Yeah.
[29:47] Speaker 3: So when I'm seeing these movies of people getting shot up,
[29:50] Speaker 3: doing drugs, and having sex, I'm learning, like, oh, no.
[29:54] Speaker 2: Yeah. You know what I'm saying? Yeah. Even Philadelphia, like, oh, man,
[29:59] Speaker 2: you can get AIDS from sex.
[30:00] Speaker 1: Yeah.
[30:01] Speaker 2: So I'm learning valuable lessons. They'll be like, no, don't
[30:03] Speaker 2: let the kids watch that. Let these kids watch that.
[30:05] Speaker 1: Yeah.
[30:06] Speaker 2: That's what toxic chemicals can do to somebody. Let me
[30:08] Speaker 2: stay away from the toxic chemicals. You know, and so
[30:12] Speaker 2: I feel like let your kids watch this stuff. I'm
[30:14] Speaker 2: with you. I'm with you. Let your kids know that
[30:18] Speaker 2: they can't be putting hands on a woman because they're
[30:19] Speaker 2: watching what's love got to do with it. Let your
[30:22] Speaker 2: kids know the effects of physical abuse in relationships and
[30:26] Speaker 2: what that looks like.
[30:26] Speaker 1: I'm with you, Tom.
[30:28] Speaker 2: Is it me or you? So I'm going to go
[30:34] Speaker 2: I have arrived moments in film. I'll go with these
[30:45] Speaker 2: are going to be in any order. I'm going to
[30:47] Speaker 2: go with Macaulay Culkin and Uncle Buck. Uncle Buck? Yeah.
[30:56] Speaker 3: I'm generally going with, like, supporting as far as they're
[31:00] Speaker 3: just supporting players or co-stars.
[31:02] Speaker 2: Okay. Rather than them being the names. Okay. So... But
[31:07] Speaker 2: Cully Culkin and Uncle Buck, I was like, yo, who
[31:10] Speaker 2: is this little kid right here? Yeah. He was charming.
[31:13] Speaker 2: That little scene where him and John Candy had a
[31:15] Speaker 2: back and forth real quick. Yeah. What are you doing here?
[31:17] Speaker 2: What do you do for a living? It was just perfect.
[31:19] Speaker 2: I was like, yo, how is this kid nailing all
[31:21] Speaker 2: of this?
[31:21] Speaker 1: His comedic timing was like.
[31:22] Speaker 2: It was crazy.
[31:23] Speaker 1: He was, yeah, for sure. You're like, he got something.
[31:25] Speaker 2: I was just like, yo, this little kid right here,
[31:27] Speaker 2: he registered. For sure.
[31:29] Speaker 3: And then when Home Alone came out, it was like, man,
[31:31] Speaker 3: of course it casted him.
[31:34] Speaker 2: I like this angle. Yeah, yeah. That's not what I
[31:36] Speaker 2: was thinking. Because if you, if you the lead in
[31:39] Speaker 2: the film, the focus is going to be on you.
[31:42] Speaker 2: But you're going to stole the scene. I'm coming. Not
[31:44] Speaker 2: really stealing the scene, but just really, I have arrived.
[31:46] Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying? Somebody you didn't expect.
[31:51] Speaker 1: Okay.
[31:51] Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying? Because, oh, you know what
[31:53] Speaker 2: I'm saying? This, you know what I mean?
[31:56] Speaker 1: In that arena, but not didn't expect. Independence Day, Will Smith.
[32:03] Speaker 2: I have arrived. That is not technically. You think he
[32:05] Speaker 2: arrived more than that, boy? I do. I would say yes.
[32:12] Speaker 1: Because I feel like Independence Day was a bigger movie.
[32:17] Speaker 2: And Martin kind of carried that.
[32:20] Speaker 1: And Martin was more in the original Bad Boys.
[32:22] Speaker 2: Yeah.
[32:24] Speaker 1: Independence Day, there was, you know... Jeff Goldblum, there's people
[32:31] Speaker 1: in there. It's an ensemble piece. But Will Smith, when
[32:36] Speaker 1: you watch that, I was like, he's out of here.
[32:41] Speaker 1: And he was. He was young, haircut, handsome. Vivica Fox
[32:47] Speaker 1: was out of this mother effing world. For me, I said, man,
[32:53] Speaker 1: watch out.
[32:55] Speaker 3: For me, it was the double dip of Bad Boys
[32:58] Speaker 3: and Independence Day.
[32:59] Speaker 1: Yeah, he had a good.
[33:00] Speaker 2: Because in Bad Boys, because they were just a year apart.
[33:04] Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah.
[33:05] Speaker 3: So in Bad Boys, I was like, yo, man. Because
[33:09] Speaker 3: when I first went to see it, I was more
[33:11] Speaker 3: excited about Martin.
[33:13] Speaker 2: For sure.
[33:13] Speaker 1: Martin was bigger at that time.
[33:14] Speaker 3: Martin, because I was just a Martin fanatic at that time.
[33:18] Speaker 3: I was just like, there ain't nobody better than Martin
[33:20] Speaker 3: right now.
[33:21] Speaker 1: And he had done movies, more movies. He was on
[33:23] Speaker 1: House Party. He was in some stuff. He was in Boomerang.
[33:26] Speaker 2: He was in Boomerang.
[33:28] Speaker 1: Yeah, so Martin was like, I got, and Martin chose Will.
[33:32] Speaker 2: Yes.
[33:32] Speaker 1: Actually, I think his sister was like, get Will. So
[33:36] Speaker 1: that's Martin like.
[33:37] Speaker 2: But even though I love the Fresh Prince, it was like,
[33:39] Speaker 2: but I was a Martin fanatic.
[33:41] Speaker 1: For sure.
[33:41] Speaker 2: In the window. For sure. So it was like, so
[33:43] Speaker 2: when I watched Bad Boys, I was like, man, Martin.
[33:45] Speaker 1: Yeah.
[33:46] Speaker 2: And then I'm seeing the dynamic between him and Will.
[33:48] Speaker 3: And then when the chase scene, they running through Miami
[33:52] Speaker 3: and he's running the shirt open.
[33:54] Speaker 2: He just running. I was like, yo, Will Smith.
[33:56] Speaker 1: He got something.
[33:57] Speaker 2: This is. We got a new action hero?
[33:59] Speaker 1: Because that's not what he was doing in Fresh Prince.
[34:02] Speaker 2: No, he was just this cool hip kid. Yeah. He
[34:04] Speaker 2: got beat up.
[34:05] Speaker 1: Charisma.
[34:05] Speaker 2: He got beat up at the bowling alley.
[34:07] Speaker 1: He got beat up in the theme song.
[34:09] Speaker 2: Yeah.
[34:10] Speaker 1: We were introduced to him getting beat up before we
[34:12] Speaker 1: saw the episode.
[34:13] Speaker 2: Right.
[34:14] Speaker 1: They're spinning him around.
[34:15] Speaker 2: Yeah. That's what we know. They were up to no good.
[34:19] Speaker 2: So we left. He fled Philly. He got beat up,
[34:20] Speaker 2: then ran. Yeah, he got beat up in Bel Air,
[34:29] Speaker 2: beat up in Philly. So now, you know what I'm saying,
[34:32] Speaker 2: he's running, he's shooting. It was just like, yo, is
[34:34] Speaker 2: Will Smith the new act? Because Martin was still funny
[34:37] Speaker 2: in Bad Boys. For sure. But then I'm looking at
[34:39] Speaker 2: Will Smith, and then Independence Day solidified.
[34:42] Speaker 1: Man. Cigar. Yeah, the cigar.
[34:45] Speaker 2: Cool guy smoking. Punching the alien with the helmet on.
[34:49] Speaker 2: He can break his hand. Exoskeleton.
[34:53] Speaker 1: And the alien was working.
[34:53] Speaker 2: Knocked him out. One hit and quit it. For sure.
[34:56] Speaker 2: He arrived. Yeah, that was a big arrival right there.
[34:58] Speaker 2: All right, you up. Okay. I'm going to go with
[35:05] Speaker 2: big arrivals. I kind of feel like Leonardo DiCaprio arrived
[35:22] Speaker 2: and was eating Gilbert Greene.
[35:25] Speaker 1: I thought about that, man, but I feel like he
[35:28] Speaker 1: arrived arrived in Titanic.
[35:32] Speaker 2: He was the lead in that.
[35:33] Speaker 1: But that was like, I'm not disagreeing with you, but
[35:37] Speaker 1: I also- Titanic was a movie that was so big,
[35:41] Speaker 1: it was big arrival.
[35:42] Speaker 2: For sure.
[35:44] Speaker 1: But he also did his thing. He did.
[35:46] Speaker 2: He did. He did good in that.
[35:47] Speaker 1: And the end was, even Gibber Great was a much
[35:49] Speaker 1: smaller movie. Obviously, Titanic was one of the best-selling movies
[35:53] Speaker 1: of all time. It's probably still top five, I would say. Yeah,
[35:57] Speaker 1: outside of Avatar.
[35:57] Speaker 2: For sure.
[35:58] Speaker 1: Because I was going to say Leo, but I was
[36:00] Speaker 1: going to say Titanic. But you feel like he arrived
[36:02] Speaker 1: before it.
[36:03] Speaker 2: Gibber Great, though, it was just like, yo, this kid
[36:06] Speaker 2: right here.
[36:07] Speaker 1: He got something.
[36:08] Speaker 2: He's killing it. Yeah.
[36:09] Speaker 1: Yo, he was on TV.
[36:10] Speaker 2: Yeah. You know what I'm saying? And so then when
[36:15] Speaker 2: he's in Titanic, because this is after the basketball diaries
[36:18] Speaker 2: and stuff like that, I just feel like I was
[36:22] Speaker 2: already aware and familiar. I knew Leonardo DiCaprio by the
[36:27] Speaker 2: time Titanic came.
[36:28] Speaker 1: For sure.
[36:28] Speaker 2: Titanic just sealed it. It was just like, oh, yeah.
[36:30] Speaker 2: He about to go into the next stratosphere after this.
[36:34] Speaker 1: Yep.
[36:34] Speaker 2: But I feel like that was he can give a
[36:36] Speaker 2: great performance, man. That was big. That was big. Like,
[36:40] Speaker 2: who is this kid? Yeah, he.
[36:42] Speaker 1: I agree with that.
[36:43] Speaker 2: Right here. Yeah. What the fuck's going on? Yeah, man.
[36:47] Speaker 2: All right. Okay.
[36:51] Speaker 1: I'm going to go on the comedic tip. I'ma go
[36:55] Speaker 1: Chris Tucker and Friday.
[36:56] Speaker 2: Yeah, man. Absolutely.
[36:57] Speaker 1: Because I feel like I was already sold on Friday
[37:02] Speaker 1: because of Ice Cube.
[37:03] Speaker 2: Yeah.
[37:04] Speaker 1: I didn't know... I only knew of Chris Tucker from
[37:07] Speaker 1: Def Comedy Jam.
[37:07] Speaker 2: Def Jam, yeah.
[37:08] Speaker 1: But I didn't know he had that.
[37:10] Speaker 2: Yeah.
[37:10] Speaker 1: He was funny.
[37:11] Speaker 2: Right.
[37:12] Speaker 1: Like, same time, man.
[37:13] Speaker 2: Yeah.
[37:13] Speaker 1: Like, his Def Comedy Jam, he did the most with
[37:16] Speaker 1: those sets.
[37:17] Speaker 2: Right.
[37:17] Speaker 1: Probably... of anybody as far as like parlaying that into
[37:20] Speaker 1: like cash.
[37:22] Speaker 2: Yeah.
[37:22] Speaker 1: But Ice Cube had already done Boys in the Hood.
[37:24] Speaker 1: He already done Higher Learning. Yeah. But man, I remember
[37:28] Speaker 1: watching Friday and being like, yo, this dude, he's, he's,
[37:33] Speaker 1: when he didn't even do Friday, the second Friday, I
[37:36] Speaker 1: wasn't even, he was so big.
[37:38] Speaker 2: Mike Epps also.
[37:39] Speaker 1: Got to arrive in the Friday franchise in a different way. Also,
[37:44] Speaker 1: shout out to Mike Epps. Like, Huge shoes to fill.
[37:47] Speaker 2: That was a huge, like, some shoes to fill, and
[37:51] Speaker 2: he filled them. Man. He made his own shoes. He
[37:53] Speaker 2: made his own shoes.
[37:54] Speaker 1: That's why I think he did good.
[37:55] Speaker 2: Yeah.
[37:56] Speaker 1: Because Mike Epps did not try to do Smokey. Mike
[37:58] Speaker 1: Epps was like, I'm Day Day. Yeah. And Day Day
[38:01] Speaker 1: is not Smokey.
[38:02] Speaker 2: That was the key.
[38:03] Speaker 1: Mike Epps leaned on his own comedic ability. I feel
[38:06] Speaker 1: like there was no comedic drop-off from that character.
[38:10] Speaker 2: Yeah.
[38:10] Speaker 1: Movie to movie. But Chris Tucker, man, he had... Friday
[38:16] Speaker 1: was ice cube, let him be the straight. Everything he
[38:19] Speaker 1: did in.
[38:19] Speaker 2: That movie was gold.
[38:21] Speaker 3: Every word he said, every mannerism, everything he was doing
[38:26] Speaker 3: was comedically perfect.
[38:28] Speaker 2: You widened it all out.
[38:29] Speaker 1: The small little jokes.
[38:30] Speaker 2: As soon as he came.
[38:31] Speaker 1: More like Freddie Jackson.
[38:33] Speaker 2: As soon as he broke.
[38:33] Speaker 3: That curtain and came in, it was every time you
[38:37] Speaker 3: saw him, it.
[38:38] Speaker 2: Was comedically perfect. And then the follow-up. Follow-up with Money Talks.
[38:45] Speaker 2: Fifth Element. Fifth Element.
[38:47] Speaker 1: Then Rush Hour.
[38:49] Speaker 2: Tone.
[38:49] Speaker 3: All while taking small roles in like Jackie Brown. Dead Presidents,
[38:53] Speaker 3: he was fantastic.
[38:55] Speaker 1: Me and you talk about it a lot, but I
[38:57] Speaker 1: don't think the world talks about his role in Dead
[38:59] Speaker 1: Presidents enough.
[39:00] Speaker 2: That's his best acting role.
[39:01] Speaker 1: I agree. Actually, I really liked him in Air. Not
[39:03] Speaker 1: necessarily his best acting role, but like.
[39:05] Speaker 2: Dead Presidents, though, he was.
[39:07] Speaker 1: Man, but from Friday, Money Talks, Rush Hour, with the in-betweens.
[39:18] Speaker 1: I was like, Chris Tucker can do no wrong. Out
[39:20] Speaker 1: of here.
[39:21] Speaker 2: He was smashing. Out of here. Alright, what else you got?
[39:24] Speaker 3: I got Tiffany Haddish, man.
[39:27] Speaker 1: Girls Trip!
[39:28] Speaker 3: Girls Trip was a i have arrived moment but that
[39:32] Speaker 3: i feel like that's the latest now now old girl
[39:35] Speaker 3: from obsession.
[39:36] Speaker 1: Is it for sure i've arrived yeah.
[39:38] Speaker 2: But before that i feel like it'd been a minute
[39:42] Speaker 2: It's been a while since we had a definitive like, oh,
[39:45] Speaker 2: this person's here.
[39:46] Speaker 1: I'm going to tell you my next one, but I
[39:48] Speaker 1: want you to finish Tiffany Haddish.
[39:49] Speaker 3: Tiffany Haddish in Girl Strip, man, she was knocking it
[39:52] Speaker 3: out the park from the moment she got on that screen.
[39:55] Speaker 2: Yes.
[39:56] Speaker 3: It was just like, she was just like the unhinged
[40:00] Speaker 3: balance of everybody that was kind of being serious. Because,
[40:03] Speaker 3: you know, Regina Hall and Queen Latifah was kind of
[40:05] Speaker 3: like that.
[40:06] Speaker 2: They were funny, but they were also holding the serious
[40:09] Speaker 2: glue together. Especially Regina Hall. Regina Hall for sure, she
[40:12] Speaker 2: was the ultimate straight man.
[40:13] Speaker 3: And her and Queen Latifah just had that dynamic between
[40:17] Speaker 3: the characters. You think you better than me, you know
[40:19] Speaker 3: what I'm saying? I don't respect what you do, you
[40:22] Speaker 3: know what I'm saying? But Tiffany and Jada, and Jada
[40:25] Speaker 3: was just being.
[40:26] Speaker 2: That prude mom, just like, hey guys, look at my dress,
[40:30] Speaker 2: what the hell.
[40:31] Speaker 1: You got on?
[40:32] Speaker 2: Tiffany was just on point throughout. And they let her
[40:36] Speaker 2: rip and run comedically. You can't get drugged. You can't
[40:39] Speaker 2: get infected in your booty hole. Yeah. It's a booty hole.
[40:42] Speaker 2: It's a booty hole. And she was just like, and
[40:45] Speaker 2: that scene, well, we'll talk about girl.
[40:47] Speaker 1: Trip on Saturday. Yeah, girl trip is on Saturday.
[40:50] Speaker 2: But Tiffany had it.
[40:51] Speaker 1: Tiffany had it.
[40:51] Speaker 2: That was the moment. And then you saw it, and
[40:53] Speaker 2: she was everywhere after that.
[40:55] Speaker 1: She arrived.
[40:56] Speaker 2: Yeah.
[40:56] Speaker 1: Speaking of on that same thing, Daniel Kaluuya in Get Out.
[41:02] Speaker 2: Yes.
[41:03] Speaker 1: Jordan Peele benefited from like what I call the rookie
[41:08] Speaker 1: contract explosion. Like you get Patrick Mahone's rookie contract, you
[41:12] Speaker 1: gotta win a Super Bowl before you gotta pay him.
[41:14] Speaker 1: Like Russell Wilson with the Seahawks, win a Super Bowl
[41:17] Speaker 1: before you gotta pay him. Daniel Kaluuya in Get Out,
[41:20] Speaker 1: I had not heard of him prior. I was into
[41:23] Speaker 1: it because of Jordan Peele, which I knew Jordan Peele
[41:27] Speaker 1: from Key and Peele and Mad TV, but I didn't
[41:30] Speaker 1: know he was into horror. But Get Out was such
[41:32] Speaker 1: a good trailer. Once I heard that, I said, ticket
[41:37] Speaker 1: bought when I heard the I Got Five On It.
[41:40] Speaker 2: Oh, you bought it from that?
[41:41] Speaker 1: From that. Then the trailer kept going. I said, let
[41:43] Speaker 1: me buy one for this. But Daniel Kaluuya, I was like, oh,
[41:47] Speaker 1: he's going to be, he's going to have a great career.
[41:50] Speaker 1: I think he did Black Panther once. Like, shortly thereafter.
[41:55] Speaker 2: Shortly thereafter, yeah.
[41:56] Speaker 1: And then from that to Fred Hampton in Judas and
[42:00] Speaker 1: the Black Messiah. Not, you know, one, two, three, but like.
[42:03] Speaker 2: What was that other one he did?
[42:04] Speaker 1: Oh, he was the gang.
[42:06] Speaker 2: Queen and Slim. Oh, snap.
[42:09] Speaker 1: That was him.
[42:09] Speaker 2: It wasn't him, yeah. You know, he was in Sicario.
[42:13] Speaker 1: I don't remember him in Sicario.
[42:14] Speaker 2: He was Emily Blunt's partner in Sicario.
[42:17] Speaker 1: This is before or after Get Out?
[42:18] Speaker 2: This is before.
[42:20] Speaker 1: And he didn't arrive.
[42:21] Speaker 2: Yeah. Because it was like, I didn't even correlate.
[42:26] Speaker 1: He was in Sicario?
[42:27] Speaker 2: He is Emily Blunt's partner in Sicario. Oh, you're right.
[42:33] Speaker 1: Five on it was us. What was the song in
[42:37] Speaker 1: Get Out? Didn't they do a flip in the trailer
[42:41] Speaker 1: for Get Out?
[42:44] Speaker 2: Well, then shut up, Kev. How much time is that, Joshie? Oh, great.
[42:48] Speaker 1: Oh, that was three minutes left.
[42:51] Speaker 2: Okay, cool.
[42:52] Speaker 1: All right, then my bad, y'all.
[42:53] Speaker 2: Oh, the song for Get Out was Redbone. The regular.
[42:58] Speaker 2: I don't know if it was in the trailer, though.
[43:02] Speaker 1: Ah, forget it.
[43:02] Speaker 2: The point is, I was in earlier. And I didn't
[43:06] Speaker 2: know who he was. Yeah, yeah.
[43:07] Speaker 1: And he is the, actually Lil Rel, when I saw
[43:09] Speaker 1: Lil Rel was in there.
[43:10] Speaker 2: Lil Rel arrived too.
[43:11] Speaker 1: Low key.
[43:12] Speaker 2: Lil Rel arrived as well.
[43:13] Speaker 1: Lil Rel and that, Lil Rel, he stole the movie
[43:18] Speaker 1: and arrived.
[43:18] Speaker 2: Yeah.
[43:19] Speaker 1: Because Rod wasn't in there like that.
[43:21] Speaker 2: Right.
[43:22] Speaker 1: But he's in every scene. And also Lil Rel has
[43:25] Speaker 1: the benefit of, he is the reason for a great ending.
[43:30] Speaker 2: Yeah.
[43:30] Speaker 1: Because I thought it was over for them.
[43:32] Speaker 2: Me too, man. I thought, here we go.
[43:33] Speaker 1: And I'm so glad for them, too.
[43:35] Speaker 2: That's America for you, man. Man. We're going to lose
[43:37] Speaker 2: every time. Every time, man. We're going to be on
[43:39] Speaker 2: the goddamn back end, man. You know how hard it
[43:42] Speaker 2: is being black in America? We can never win. Even
[43:44] Speaker 2: when we don't win on the legit, they never believe us.
[43:46] Speaker 2: We end up dead every goddamn... Oh, this little rap, man. Oh,
[43:52] Speaker 2: hell yeah, man. That's so funny. That's how I was
[43:55] Speaker 2: going through it. I was like, another cop going to
[43:59] Speaker 2: kill us.
[44:00] Speaker 1: And he got his hands up.
[44:03] Speaker 2: We could never win, man.
[44:04] Speaker 1: In my head, I was storming out the theater mad.
[44:07] Speaker 2: Yeah, for sure. I missed the fact that it was. Oh,
[44:10] Speaker 2: of course. The cop's going to pull up and shoot
[44:13] Speaker 2: him dead. That's how it is in America. That's what
[44:17] Speaker 2: the fuck we've been going through this whole goddamn time,
[44:19] Speaker 2: movie theater. And I'm sick of it, man. That's it, man.
[44:23] Speaker 2: Come on, man. Movie theater?
[44:26] Speaker 1: His friend, man.
[44:27] Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Okay.
[44:34] Speaker 1: Lil Rel and Daniel Kaluuya.
[44:36] Speaker 2: We're doubling up in that one. I love it.
[44:38] Speaker 1: Double up. It's on you.
[44:39] Speaker 2: I'm going to go with Jim Carrey and Ace Ventura.
[44:44] Speaker 3: First of all, From a movie standpoint, of course he
[44:49] Speaker 3: was already in Living Color.
[44:50] Speaker 2: Yeah. The film arrival for him, he had been in
[44:54] Speaker 2: several movies before. Yeah, yeah. Earth Girls Are Easy, he
[44:57] Speaker 2: was in the Dirty Harry movie. Yes. Once Bitten. Ace Ventura. Yeah.
[45:04] Speaker 2: Was the moment. Yes. It was just like, yo! This
[45:09] Speaker 2: is crazy.
[45:09] Speaker 3: And then he followed it up with the mask and
[45:12] Speaker 3: Dumb and Dumber.
[45:13] Speaker 2: It was just like.
[45:14] Speaker 1: Nobody has filled that his shoes. Maybe they don't even
[45:19] Speaker 1: make that type of movie anymore. But he... Nobody's doing that.
[45:25] Speaker 1: That was a Jim Carrey... Like, Robin Williams was doing
[45:29] Speaker 1: that type of comedy.
[45:30] Speaker 2: Yeah. Jim Carrey. But he always mixed it up.
[45:33] Speaker 1: He did.
[45:33] Speaker 2: But, like, he was Zany McGee.
[45:34] Speaker 1: He was Zany McGee.
[45:35] Speaker 2: But he was mixed it up real good.
[45:36] Speaker 1: But nobody Zany.
[45:38] Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, he did. We ain't got no Zane.
[45:40] Speaker 1: Ain't no Zane. Everybody's, there's also less comedies. And there's
[45:44] Speaker 1: even less coming of age movies. We don't have them
[45:47] Speaker 1: like we used to, y'all.
[45:49] Speaker 2: All the comedies are going straight to streaming.
[45:50] Speaker 3: They don't believe in comedies on the theatrical tip.
[45:53] Speaker 1: That's what it is. They do have them out.
[45:55] Speaker 2: They're going straight to streaming. And mines are going too.
[45:58] Speaker 2: Mine ain't going to hold you. Mine ain't going to
[45:59] Speaker 2: be going straight to streaming.
[46:00] Speaker 1: Straight to Tubi.
[46:01] Speaker 2: Yeah. But that's where they at now.
[46:03] Speaker 1: That's where they at. That's where they're at.
[46:06] Speaker 2: So the zany, man. Shit.
[46:09] Speaker 1: Ain't nobody doing zany. Ain't nobody like. He was zany.
[46:15] Speaker 1: He was also physical comedy. And physical comedy is also
[46:18] Speaker 1: kind of not as popular as it was. You know
[46:21] Speaker 1: what I'm saying? In standup and on the screen. All right,
[46:25] Speaker 1: how many of that?
[46:25] Speaker 2: Is that enough? All right, man.
[46:27] Speaker 1: I'm going to just say last one more, last one.
[46:30] Speaker 1: Arnold Schwarzenegger and The Terminator.
[46:33] Speaker 2: Oh yeah.
[46:33] Speaker 1: That was like, who the hell is this? He did
[46:36] Speaker 1: such a good job and he wasn't even talking, man.
[46:39] Speaker 2: Because I fully believe he was a cyborg. Tony, he
[46:44] Speaker 2: got that robot today. You think his skin is old? No, man.
[46:48] Speaker 2: He got that robot stuff under tone. That's a skeleton
[46:53] Speaker 2: for real.
[46:53] Speaker 1: Arnold Schwarzenegger, you think he gonna die? He gonna rip
[46:57] Speaker 1: that off and he got skeleton face and red eyes today.
[47:01] Speaker 2: As a kid, I was like, man. The Terminator scared me, dog.
[47:05] Speaker 2: That's what I'm saying.
[47:07] Speaker 1: Skynet is nothing but Ultron and AI.
[47:11] Speaker 2: They gon' kill us. It scared me, man.
[47:12] Speaker 1: Today.
[47:14] Speaker 2: Like, to this day, like, when I watch it. Go ahead, Josh.
[47:16] Speaker 1: No, no, I wasn't talking about that.
[47:19] Speaker 2: Oh, okay. Watch out.
[47:20] Speaker 3: That moment where he was in the bathroom and his
[47:22] Speaker 3: eye was messed up and he was working on the eye.
[47:24] Speaker 2: You could tell it was all fake in that moment.
[47:27] Speaker 2: You see the red eye. He's like, oh, shit. He's
[47:31] Speaker 2: a genie. And then he's fixing, he's doing the repairs.
[47:34] Speaker 3: But once he gets completely skinless, he's just a full
[47:38] Speaker 3: robot with the red eyes coming for Linda Hamilton. That
[47:44] Speaker 3: shit was creepy as hell.
[47:45] Speaker 2: Yes, it was terrifying. And he was also just never
[47:48] Speaker 2: going to stop.
[47:49] Speaker 1: That's the thing about him and T-1000. They're not going
[47:53] Speaker 1: to stop.
[47:54] Speaker 2: Until they complete the mission. And also.
[47:58] Speaker 1: They don't bleed. Villains, there's no pain. They're not, he
[48:02] Speaker 1: never went, ah. You blast him off.
[48:05] Speaker 2: You shoot my legs off, I'm crawling for you. I
[48:08] Speaker 2: was just like, man, enough. No legs left, still. Ain't
[48:15] Speaker 2: no reason with it. And he explained that to Sarah Connor.
[48:19] Speaker 2: You can't reason with it. He was letting her know.
[48:23] Speaker 2: There is no, it's coming for you. And Sarah Connor
[48:27] Speaker 2: was just like, I didn't ask for any of this.
[48:29] Speaker 2: What's happening? Could you imagine that? Somebody from the future
[48:33] Speaker 2: coming to tell you this thing is coming to kill you.
[48:36] Speaker 1: It's a machine.
[48:37] Speaker 2: You specifically. I know you was working at the diner.
[48:40] Speaker 2: Your roommate just got killed. And watch out. Listen. You
[48:45] Speaker 2: can't reason with it. You can't, man, I'd be crying.
[48:49] Speaker 2: It doesn't feel pity or remorse. Man, listen.
[48:51] Speaker 1: A program, nigga.
[48:53] Speaker 2: Shoot program, nigga.
[48:55] Speaker 1: All right, we're done.

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