# 有关紧要SomethingMatters

A podcast by 有关紧要. “有关紧要”是由出版品牌明室Lucida出品的播客，一片编辑和朋友们的自留地。在这个必要和非必要的界限逐渐受到侵蚀的时代，似乎一切都无关紧要，但我们仍有在乎的东西。在这里，我们想邀请朋友们谈谈书和与书相关的一切，用行动对抗虚无，守护那些我们心中的“有关紧要”。 微博：@有关紧要SomethingMatters

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## Latest episodes

- [Vol.051｜从播客到万人订阅图书盲盒，野山书店的前世今生](https://invisiblenetwork.ai/podcast/1649080014/059c05dbbf0e) (2026-10-13, 99 min): audio https://jt.ximalaya.com//GKwRIMAOpgGyAtqJJATouARl.m4a?channel=rss&album_id=71532390&track_id=1023825417&uid=419068080&jt=https://aod.cos.tx.xmcdn.com/storages/16d9-audiofreehighqps/50/F5/GKwRIMAOpgGyAtqJJATouARl.m4a
- [Vol.050｜书展归来就退学，版权代理为何如此有趣？——talk with图书版权人谭光磊](https://invisiblenetwork.ai/podcast/1649080014/05fdf600d59d) (2026-07-21, 85 min): audio https://jt.ximalaya.com//GKwRIaIONLHPAnVMvQS6fFSG.m4a?channel=rss&album_id=71532390&track_id=1002065436&uid=419068080&jt=https://aod.cos.tx.xmcdn.com/storages/1b9a-audiofreehighqps/A3/24/GKwRIaIONLHPAnVMvQS6fFSG.m4a
- [Vol.049丨作家们“毫无进展”，编辑们“费尽唇舌”](https://invisiblenetwork.ai/podcast/1649080014/42a496167b68) (2026-06-12, 84 min): audio https://jt.ximalaya.com//GKwRIW4OAX-3Amx-sgSniVPT.m4a?channel=rss&album_id=71532390&track_id=990320154&uid=419068080&jt=https://aod.cos.tx.xmcdn.com/storages/c3a4-audiofreehighqps/53/5E/GKwRIW4OAX-3Amx-sgSniVPT.m4a
- [Vol.048|【妇女节特辑】当女性视角遇到“男流文学”，一场跨越时代的“清算”](https://invisiblenetwork.ai/podcast/1649080014/0557b4372dd0) (2026-03-06, 115 min): audio https://jt.ximalaya.com//GKwRIJINgAhOA01KpwR1GMI9.m4a?channel=rss&album_id=71532390&track_id=960928229&uid=419068080&jt=https://aod.cos.tx.xmcdn.com/storages/0281-audiofreehighqps/43/8C/GKwRIJINgAhOA01KpwR1GMI9.m4a
- [Vol.47| 为了活下去而读书，为了活下去而做书：与“一人出版社”社长的中日出版交流会](https://invisiblenetwork.ai/podcast/1649080014/0fd6f0cbcd69) (2026-01-29, 97 min): audio https://jt.ximalaya.com//GKwRIRwNUNF0As3XgARh97nP.m4a?channel=rss&album_id=71532390&track_id=953082562&uid=419068080&jt=https://aod.cos.tx.xmcdn.com/storages/4e4d-audiofreehighqps/AD/B5/GKwRIRwNUNF0As3XgARh97nP.m4a
- [vol.046 | 出版朋友节，世界上最善良、最真诚的人的聚会：talk with策划人海蒂](https://invisiblenetwork.ai/podcast/1649080014/2a1ba23ae726) (2025-12-03, 82 min): audio https://jt.ximalaya.com//GKwRIJENBWFVACAAAARAh0CX.mp3.m4a?channel=rss&album_id=71532390&track_id=937007451&uid=419068080&jt=https://aod.cos.tx.xmcdn.com/storages/28d5-audiofreehighqps/06/B5/GKwRIJENBWFVACAAAARAh0CX.mp3
- [Vol.045|书还有未来吗？明室五周年，与五位爱书人的聊天](https://invisiblenetwork.ai/podcast/1649080014/5df75c325cbc) (2025-11-06, 107 min): audio https://jt.ximalaya.com//GKwRIasM4j3WAxNwAwQxGx9z.m4a?channel=rss&album_id=71532390&track_id=928722061&uid=419068080&jt=https://aod.cos.tx.xmcdn.com/storages/d2d1-audiofreehighqps/00/01/GKwRIasM4j3WAxNwAwQxGx9z.m4a
- [Vol.044|在读者逐渐消失的时代我们如何做书？:也人，一个出版品牌的四周年](https://invisiblenetwork.ai/podcast/1649080014/070da7fc8682) (2025-09-24, 97 min): audio https://jt.ximalaya.com//GKwRIasMqXk-AsvUFQQWEm33.m4a?channel=rss&album_id=71532390&track_id=914580995&uid=419068080&jt=https://aod.cos.tx.xmcdn.com/storages/6020-audiofreehighqps/E9/F4/GKwRIasMqXk-AsvUFQQWEm33.m4a
- [Vol. 043| “所有认真做好书的出版方，得有一个方法能挣到钱。”8岁的多抓鱼这样卖书](https://invisiblenetwork.ai/podcast/1649080014/fb524a94ad32) (2025-07-08, 82 min): audio https://jt.ximalaya.com//GKwRIasMQkr4ACAAAAPclwOR.mp3.m4a?channel=rss&album_id=71532390&track_id=883763619&uid=419068080&jt=https://aod.cos.tx.xmcdn.com/storages/1436-audiofreehighqps/F2/D4/GKwRIasMQkr4ACAAAAPclwOR.mp3
- [Vol.042|从第一文学播客，到百万畅销书：一个漫画品牌的诞生——talk with猫弟](https://invisiblenetwork.ai/podcast/1649080014/ca1ec2268533) (2025-05-08, 96 min): audio https://jt.ximalaya.com//GKwRIJEL8eqEAsN1ogOpV8fH.m4a?channel=rss&album_id=71532390&track_id=848384638&uid=419068080&jt=https://aod.cos.tx.xmcdn.com/storages/2009-audiofreehighqps/E0/2E/GKwRIJEL8eqEAsN1ogOpV8fH.m4a
- [Vol.041|【妇女节特辑】舆论分裂的时代里，我想成为更自由的女性——talk with荞麦](https://invisiblenetwork.ai/podcast/1649080014/cce840777a59) (2025-03-07, 73 min): audio https://jt.ximalaya.com//GAqh_aQLoHXMACAAAAN2DbLd.mp3.m4a?channel=rss&album_id=71532390&track_id=814315741&uid=419068080&jt=https://aod.cos.tx.xmcdn.com/storages/6a16-audiofreehighqps/7E/4B/GAqh_aQLoHXMACAAAAN2DbLd.mp3
- [Vol.040 | 当女性开了一家书店：talkwith牡蛎书店、来树下书酒馆、泡芙云书店](https://invisiblenetwork.ai/podcast/1649080014/bd4d4373b4f7) (2024-12-30, 95 min): audio https://jt.ximalaya.com//GKwRIasLSBeOAhFNsQNJhq8i.m4a?channel=rss&album_id=71532390&track_id=788823748&uid=419068080&jt=https://aod.cos.tx.xmcdn.com/storages/e8d1-audiofreehighqps/47/C6/GKwRIasLSBeOAhFNsQNJhq8i.m4a
- [Vol.039| “没有其他考虑，做书是我最后的工作”——talk with编辑恩惠](https://invisiblenetwork.ai/podcast/1649080014/dfd120560a45) (2024-11-27, 62 min): audio https://jt.ximalaya.com//GKwRIUELHJ8AAVoB9AM2sBMw.m4a?channel=rss&album_id=71532390&track_id=778713709&uid=419068080&jt=https://aod.cos.tx.xmcdn.com/storages/4e2d-audiofreehighqps/DD/98/GKwRIUELHJ8AAVoB9AM2sBMw.m4a
- [Vol.038 |“高知悍妇”聊天会：女性如何收复语言，从《语言恶女》谈起](https://invisiblenetwork.ai/podcast/1649080014/0e22a3a0036c) (2024-10-12, 89 min): audio https://jt.ximalaya.com//GAqhig8K4BNIACAAAAMdpt42.mp3.m4a?channel=rss&album_id=71532390&track_id=764509841&uid=419068080&jt=https://aod.cos.tx.xmcdn.com/storages/a880-audiofreehighqps/E7/0F/GAqhig8K4BNIACAAAAMdpt42.mp3
- [Vol.036|“慢一点，难道明天天就不会亮了吗？”：重光，编辑任绪军的“一个人出版”](https://invisiblenetwork.ai/podcast/1649080014/d7cd3d4b2272) (2024-07-25, 92 min): audio https://jt.ximalaya.com//GKwRIUEKd8aCACAAAAL2Ioxp.mp3.m4a?channel=rss&album_id=71532390&track_id=743739539&uid=419068080&jt=https://aod.cos.tx.xmcdn.com/storages/c255-audiofreehighqps/A6/D0/GKwRIUEKd8aCACAAAAL2Ioxp.mp3
- [Vol.035|一位编辑的19年，与一个文学出版品牌：talkwith文学纪念碑主编魏东](https://invisiblenetwork.ai/podcast/1649080014/eb0b853f5944) (2024-06-28, 74 min): audio https://jt.ximalaya.com//GArMd8QKU-2YACAAAALoe71B.mp3.m4a?channel=rss&album_id=71532390&track_id=737747834&uid=419068080&jt=https://aod.cos.tx.xmcdn.com/storages/4710-audiofreehighqps/DD/D0/GArMd8QKU-2YACAAAALoe71B.mp3
- [Vol.034|做书到底还是要聊聊书籍设计：talkwith设计师山川](https://invisiblenetwork.ai/podcast/1649080014/79cb31688d48) (2024-05-24, 66 min): audio https://jt.ximalaya.com//GMCoOSEKJjOBACAAAALXlRXr.mp3.m4a?channel=rss&album_id=71532390&track_id=730750269&uid=419068080&jt=https://aod.cos.tx.xmcdn.com/storages/a75b-audiofreehighqps/3B/11/GMCoOSEKJjOBACAAAALXlRXr.mp3
- [Vol.033|随机波动的出《格》故事：直到最后一页纸消散在风中](https://invisiblenetwork.ai/podcast/1649080014/206358dd6169) (2024-04-23, 74 min): audio https://jt.ximalaya.com//GKwRIRwJ_UAoAiCJrALJ9Yh4.m4a?channel=rss&album_id=71532390&track_id=724454106&uid=419068080&jt=https://aod.cos.tx.xmcdn.com/storages/7eb9-audiofreehighqps/C3/4A/GKwRIRwJ_UAoAiCJrALJ9Yh4.m4a
- [Vol.032|电子书之殇：“纸电之争”是伪命题，关键是付费模式](https://invisiblenetwork.ai/podcast/1649080014/0cee158cd801) (2024-03-27, 71 min): audio https://jt.ximalaya.com//GKwRIasJ2afSACAAAAK9-t2d.mp3.m4a?channel=rss&album_id=71532390&track_id=718182968&uid=419068080&jt=https://aod.cos.tx.xmcdn.com/storages/8850-audiofreehighqps/0B/B3/GKwRIasJ2afSACAAAAK9-t2d.mp3
- [Vol.031|艺术书、艺术家书、自出版…abC的探索与新生：talkwith创始人周玥](https://invisiblenetwork.ai/podcast/1649080014/f1307fe66b2d) (2024-02-28, 67 min): audio https://jt.ximalaya.com//GKwRINsJt4KGACAAAAKwZpNG.mp3.m4a?channel=rss&album_id=71532390&track_id=709472345&uid=419068080&jt=https://aod.cos.tx.xmcdn.com/storages/3f5f-audiofreehighqps/FA/98/GKwRINsJt4KGACAAAAKwZpNG.mp3
- [Vol.030| 把编辑作为方法：talk with资深编辑罗丹妮](https://invisiblenetwork.ai/podcast/1649080014/164d814a2657) (2024-01-26, 90 min): audio https://jt.ximalaya.com//GKwRIasJiVQ0ACAAAAKgmyw1.mp3.m4a?channel=rss&album_id=71532390&track_id=702204595&uid=419068080&jt=https://aod.cos.tx.xmcdn.com/storages/3bfa-audiofreehighqps/25/C5/GKwRIasJiVQ0ACAAAAKgmyw1.mp3
- [Vol.029|无岸可上的时代，大厂女儿和保洁员妈妈：with《我的母亲做保洁》作者张小满](https://invisiblenetwork.ai/podcast/1649080014/555c3ffe8c08) (2023-12-29, 72 min): audio https://jt.ximalaya.com//GKwRIJEJZGhWAhLlvwKUBS33-aacv2-48K.m4a?channel=rss&album_id=71532390&track_id=696573279&uid=419068080&jt=https://aod.cos.tx.xmcdn.com/storages/f646-audiofreehighqps/69/E0/GKwRIJEJZGhWAhLlvwKUBS33-aacv2-48K.m4a
- [Vol.028|拼贴/摩擦/chatGPT/以及50g工业纸——与颜峻、路丝谈《夏宇诗集六种加一》](https://invisiblenetwork.ai/podcast/1649080014/05ea276ae9c3) (2023-12-19, 69 min): audio https://jt.ximalaya.com//GKwRIJIJVy6aACAAAAKOwW35.mp3.m4a?channel=rss&album_id=71532390&track_id=694438749&uid=419068080&jt=https://aod.cos.tx.xmcdn.com/storages/3987-audiofreehighqps/AF/11/GKwRIJIJVy6aACAAAAKOwW35.mp3
- [Vol.027|【编辑聊天室】什么？图书编辑还要自己做营销！](https://invisiblenetwork.ai/podcast/1649080014/397f82c4d07b) (2023-11-30, 74 min): audio https://jt.ximalaya.com//GKwRIMAJPi35ACAAAAKE0D7A.mp3.m4a?channel=rss&album_id=71532390&track_id=689452318&uid=419068080&jt=https://aod.cos.tx.xmcdn.com/storages/12b4-audiofreehighqps/E9/A9/GKwRIMAJPi35ACAAAAKE0D7A.mp3
- [Vol.026| 这么做节目得做到什么时候？！看理想这五年是如何做音频出版的](https://invisiblenetwork.ai/podcast/1649080014/619d578d8995) (2023-11-17, 84 min): audio https://jt.ximalaya.com//GMCoOSUJLKIZACAAAAJ-e-EM.mp3.m4a?channel=rss&album_id=71532390&track_id=685330683&uid=419068080&jt=https://aod.cos.tx.xmcdn.com/storages/4c45-audiofreehighqps/3D/2B/GMCoOSUJLKIZACAAAAJ-e-EM.mp3
- [Vol.025|【明室请回答】在明室做书的都是些什么人啊？！三周年特辑·下](https://invisiblenetwork.ai/podcast/1649080014/7dbeb66999e9) (2023-10-24, 96 min): audio https://jt.ximalaya.com//GKwRIJEJDVyyACAAAAJy6Bdk.mp3.m4a?channel=rss&album_id=71532390&track_id=677032682&uid=419068080&jt=https://aod.cos.tx.xmcdn.com/storages/6604-audiofreehighqps/F9/0B/GKwRIJEJDVyyACAAAAJy6Bdk.mp3
- [Vol.024|【明室请回答】业内好友犀利提问，三岁“幼童”诚实作答！明室三周年特辑·上](https://invisiblenetwork.ai/podcast/1649080014/45f1f7fcf739) (2023-10-10, 79 min): audio https://jt.ximalaya.com//GKwRIW4I-ri2ACAAAAJpbfqv.mp3.m4a?channel=rss&album_id=71532390&track_id=672291379&uid=419068080&jt=https://aod.cos.tx.xmcdn.com/storages/4cfb-audiofreehighqps/9C/F0/GKwRIW4I-ri2ACAAAAJpbfqv.mp3
- [Vol.023|出版机构做文创的正确姿势:talkwith上海译文·七海制造局](https://invisiblenetwork.ai/podcast/1649080014/93c9b1204341) (2023-09-28, 81 min): audio https://jt.ximalaya.com//GKwRIaII6tl2ACAAAAJiVq6J.mp3.m4a?channel=rss&album_id=71532390&track_id=669639118&uid=419068080&jt=https://aod.cos.tx.xmcdn.com/storages/44dd-audiofreehighqps/16/B7/GKwRIaII6tl2ACAAAAJiVq6J.mp3
- [Vol.022| 当我们说“厌男”的时候，究竟是在说什么？：与端木异、华昭聊《我，厌男》](https://invisiblenetwork.ai/podcast/1649080014/240dbd9e5609) (2023-09-12, 93 min): audio https://jt.ximalaya.com//GMCoOR8I1amAACAAAAJZWiK8.mp3.m4a?channel=rss&album_id=71532390&track_id=665249597&uid=419068080&jt=https://aod.cos.tx.xmcdn.com/storages/34a6-audiofreehighqps/9D/FC/GMCoOR8I1amAACAAAAJZWiK8.mp3
- [Vol.021| TALK with诚与真书店老王：独立书店可以靠卖书活下去吗？](https://invisiblenetwork.ai/podcast/1649080014/cfa3233ef7f7) (2023-08-25, 70 min): audio https://jt.ximalaya.com//GMCoOSIIvieaACAAAAJPSxRW.mp3.m4a?channel=rss&album_id=71532390&track_id=659846830&uid=419068080&jt=https://aod.cos.tx.xmcdn.com/storages/a75c-audiofreehighqps/2F/4D/GMCoOSIIvieaACAAAAJPSxRW.mp3
- [vol.020|从鹿书到惊奇：和i含量98%的周昀聊做书](https://invisiblenetwork.ai/podcast/1649080014/f6358759b49e) (2023-08-11, 71 min): audio https://jt.ximalaya.com//GKwRIW4IrBJQACAAAAJHiAOs.mp3.m4a?channel=rss&album_id=71532390&track_id=655951600&uid=419068080&jt=https://aod.cos.tx.xmcdn.com/storages/7045-audiofreehighqps/C2/D6/GKwRIW4IrBJQACAAAAJHiAOs.mp3
- [vol.019|教练，我想做漫画！和燃也创始人南宫泓从《漫画产业论》谈起](https://invisiblenetwork.ai/podcast/1649080014/09a707ce5b54) (2023-07-28, 83 min): audio https://jt.ximalaya.com//GKwRIasImSUtACAAAAI_cc8x.mp3.m4a?channel=rss&album_id=71532390&track_id=652286423&uid=419068080&jt=https://aod.cos.tx.xmcdn.com/storages/f4cd-audiofreehighqps/92/5B/GKwRIasImSUtACAAAAI_cc8x.mp3
- [vol.018|【编辑聊天室】年中真话局：“公司创办那天，我就把所有最坏结果想过一遍。”](https://invisiblenetwork.ai/podcast/1649080014/48f352019d1f) (2023-07-14, 101 min): audio https://jt.ximalaya.com//GKwRIJIIhoaAACAAAAI375Sz.mp3.m4a?channel=rss&album_id=71532390&track_id=648556119&uid=419068080&jt=https://aod.cos.tx.xmcdn.com/storages/25b0-audiofreehighqps/CD/50/GKwRIJIIhoaAACAAAAI375Sz.mp3
- [Vol.017|读库那些美到变态的书是如何诞生的？:TALK with“最强印务”包伸明](https://invisiblenetwork.ai/podcast/1649080014/30d6d022e23b) (2023-06-27, 81 min): audio https://jt.ximalaya.com//GKwRIJIIcEfkACAAAAIvhvjR.mp3.m4a?channel=rss&album_id=71532390&track_id=644303420&uid=419068080&jt=https://aod.cos.tx.xmcdn.com/storages/5ff8-audiofreehighqps/4B/07/GKwRIJIIcEfkACAAAAIvhvjR.mp3
- [Vol.016|我在重庆，从零开始做出版：与拜德雅创始人们聊做书](https://invisiblenetwork.ai/podcast/1649080014/4703f106b6c5) (2023-06-13, 73 min): audio https://jt.ximalaya.com//GMCoOSQIXbDcACAAAAIo9KcY.mp3.m4a?channel=rss&album_id=71532390&track_id=641147538&uid=419068080&jt=https://aod.cos.tx.xmcdn.com/storages/616c-audiofreehighqps/C3/C8/GMCoOSQIXbDcACAAAAIo9KcY.mp3
- [Vol.015|讨好世界终究只是一场徒劳：与胡安焉聊《我在北京送快递》](https://invisiblenetwork.ai/podcast/1649080014/e6cbd3735575) (2023-05-26, 65 min): audio https://jt.ximalaya.com//GMCoOR8IRk5GACAAAAIhjTZS.mp3.m4a?channel=rss&album_id=71532390&track_id=637227977&uid=419068080&jt=https://aod.cos.tx.xmcdn.com/storages/c89f-audiofreehighqps/00/3B/GMCoOR8IRk5GACAAAAIhjTZS.mp3
- [Vol.014|【编辑聊天室】我是这样做女性图书的](https://invisiblenetwork.ai/podcast/1649080014/85a823634fc2) (2023-05-12, 92 min): audio https://jt.ximalaya.com//GMCoOR8IM6LUACAAAAIa7_PK.mp3.m4a?channel=rss&album_id=71532390&track_id=632999559&uid=419068080&jt=https://aod.cos.tx.xmcdn.com/storages/9643-audiofreehighqps/E1/97/GMCoOR8IM6LUACAAAAIa7_PK.mp3
- [Vol.013|我们攀升，我们坠落，科学能让我们理解世界吗？](https://invisiblenetwork.ai/podcast/1649080014/e31cf25acce5) (2023-04-27, 72 min): audio https://jt.ximalaya.com//GMCoOSEIICcDACAAAAIUgURa.mp3.m4a?channel=rss&album_id=71532390&track_id=629720118&uid=419068080&jt=https://aod.cos.tx.xmcdn.com/storages/79af-audiofreehighqps/D2/95/GMCoOSEIICcDACAAAAIUgURa.mp3
- [Vol.012 |与李乌鸦聊天：不读书只拍照？为爱发电？读书博主生态大揭秘](https://invisiblenetwork.ai/podcast/1649080014/b7ba5d19b19e) (2023-04-11, 80 min): audio https://jt.ximalaya.com//GKwRIUEICv_lACAAAAINopM2.mp3.m4a?channel=rss&album_id=71532390&track_id=625533642&uid=419068080&jt=https://aod.cos.tx.xmcdn.com/storages/11dd-audiofreehighqps/7E/06/GKwRIUEICv_lACAAAAINopM2.mp3
- [vol.011｜范晔×陶朗歌谈《永航员》：“你的抗争并不是徒劳一场！”](https://invisiblenetwork.ai/podcast/1649080014/0a0fd6c7c924) (2023-03-28, 82 min): audio https://jt.ximalaya.com//GMCoOSUH-En0ACAAAAIH0uKc.mp3.m4a?channel=rss&album_id=71532390&track_id=621704823&uid=419068080&jt=https://aod.cos.tx.xmcdn.com/storages/7a65-audiofreehighqps/7C/47/GMCoOSUH-En0ACAAAAIH0uKc.mp3
- [播客|谁是“上野千鹤子”？：与上野研究者陆薇薇聊上野的思想与实践(vol.010)](https://invisiblenetwork.ai/podcast/1649080014/4cea54c19da3) (2023-03-07, 73 min): audio https://jt.ximalaya.com//GMCoOR8H3OiUACAAAAH_1KS-.mp3.m4a?channel=rss&album_id=71532390&track_id=616334436&uid=419068080&jt=https://aod.cos.tx.xmcdn.com/storages/ef4c-audiofreehighqps/9E/7E/GMCoOR8H3OiUACAAAAH_1KS-.mp3
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- [vol.008 | 我是书的幼儿园园长：图书营销编辑是如何炼成的](https://invisiblenetwork.ai/podcast/1649080014/ab859b9e46c7) (2023-02-14, 87 min): audio https://jt.ximalaya.com//GKwRIRwHwT9PACAAAAH3wej2.mp3.m4a?channel=rss&album_id=71532390&track_id=611182536&uid=419068080&jt=https://aod.cos.tx.xmcdn.com/storages/bbe8-audiofreehighqps/28/C5/GKwRIRwHwT9PACAAAAH3wej2.mp3
- [vol.007 | 2022年度读书总结与回顾：阅读是最小限度的行动](https://invisiblenetwork.ai/podcast/1649080014/dbde28b50da6) (2023-01-29, 82 min): audio https://jt.ximalaya.com//GMCoOR8HrCYuACAAAAHxmvzJ.mp3.m4a?channel=rss&album_id=71532390&track_id=607509818&uid=419068080&jt=https://aod.cos.tx.xmcdn.com/storages/11e7-audiofreehighqps/60/AA/GMCoOR8HrCYuACAAAAHxmvzJ.mp3
- [vol. 006 | 最终你会发现人要做自己擅长的事：从实习生到总编辑，浦睿余西出版经验谈](https://invisiblenetwork.ai/podcast/1649080014/6f40004b9d92) (2023-01-12, 86 min): audio https://jt.ximalaya.com//GMCoOSAHlTczACAAAAHrqk80.mp3.m4a?channel=rss&album_id=71532390&track_id=603808402&uid=419068080&jt=https://aod.cos.tx.xmcdn.com/storages/19ed-audiofreehighqps/C1/7E/GMCoOSAHlTczACAAAAHrqk80.mp3
- [vol.005｜“诗人是不是总得发点疯？殊不知我也会做饭做得很好吃”：丝绒陨的精神漫游](https://invisiblenetwork.ai/podcast/1649080014/62a41cd8cd4e) (2022-12-28, 68 min): audio https://jt.ximalaya.com//GMCoOSMHgcQaACAAAAHlq4ee.mp3.m4a?channel=rss&album_id=71532390&track_id=600077343&uid=419068080&jt=https://aod.cos.tx.xmcdn.com/storages/5a9c-audiofreehighqps/B6/2A/GMCoOSMHgcQaACAAAAHlq4ee.mp3
- [vol.004|和书在一起，和比生命更永恒的东西在一起：一頁品牌总监恰恰的边界探索](https://invisiblenetwork.ai/podcast/1649080014/07cfdf93dd9b) (2022-12-09, 83 min): audio https://jt.ximalaya.com//GKwRIUEHaOvXACAAAAHec3D8.mp3.m4a?channel=rss&album_id=71532390&track_id=595325888&uid=419068080&jt=https://aod.cos.tx.xmcdn.com/storages/52a5-audiofreehighqps/35/59/GKwRIUEHaOvXACAAAAHec3D8.mp3
- [播客|生而为女，这是我们的唯一道路【vol.003】](https://invisiblenetwork.ai/podcast/1649080014/5928e483d02b) (2022-11-25, 119 min): audio https://jt.ximalaya.com//GMCoOR8HVmG7ACAAAAHUT6fN.mp3.m4a?channel=rss&album_id=71532390&track_id=590994951&uid=419068080&jt=https://aod.cos.tx.xmcdn.com/storages/f0fa-audiofreehighqps/2A/76/GMCoOR8HVmG7ACAAAAHUT6fN.mp3
- [vol.002|我无法假装成一个自己不是的人：编辑、译者、自由撰稿人海带岛的穿梭](https://invisiblenetwork.ai/podcast/1649080014/448d3b39c56b) (2022-11-08, 86 min): audio https://jt.ximalaya.com//GMCoOSAHP_FXACAAAAHGF-V6.mp3.m4a?channel=rss&album_id=71532390&track_id=584986640&uid=419068080&jt=https://aod.cos.tx.xmcdn.com/storages/5f8b-audiofreehighqps/AF/D1/GMCoOSAHP_FXACAAAAHGF-V6.mp3
- [vol.001|人间无敌喷火器:专属于年轻人的思想家——齐奥朗](https://invisiblenetwork.ai/podcast/1649080014/0cd2006eb078) (2022-10-25, 72 min): audio https://jt.ximalaya.com//GKwRIasHLR3WACAAAAG5KzBW.mp3.m4a?channel=rss&album_id=71532390&track_id=579827828&uid=419068080&jt=https://aod.cos.tx.xmcdn.com/storages/6e7c-audiofreehighqps/58/71/GKwRIasHLR3WACAAAAG5KzBW.mp3

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