# Watering and tending to the clitoris (with Frank Gardner)

An episode of [Off Air with Jane & Fi](https://invisiblenetwork.ai/podcast/1648663774), 4 Aug 2026, 1 h 01 min.

Audio: https://sphinx.acast.com/p/open/s/633c203337c97b00125ed1f3/e/6a71f35adb05426c3228d101/media.mp3

We're somewhere between Jane's morning coffee run and Fi's afternoon Diet Coke run, but we're managing... Jane and Fi cover Margaret Thatcher's bouffant, sparky nighties, the spookiest time of day, and the political message behind Jungle Cruise. Plus, there's a small accent warning for Caroline. And... he's doubly Frank. It's BBC Security Correspondent and author Frank Gardner, discussing his new novel 'Ballistic'. Our book club pick is a collection of short stories! 'Interpreter of Maladies' is by Jhumpa Lahiri. You can check out our YouTube channel here: https://www.youtube.com/@OffAirWithJaneAndFi Our most asked about book is called 'The Later Years' by Peter Thornton. If you want to contact the show to ask a question and get involved in the conversation then please email us: janeandfi@times.radio Follow us on Instagram! @janeandfi Podcast Producers: Eve Salusbury Executive Producer: Rosie Cutler Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

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