# Ep. 33: Three Sharks?! Great Whites, Megamouth, and Leopard Sharks!

An episode of [Deep Dives With Sharks](https://invisiblenetwork.ai/podcast/1648333559), 13 Dec 2024, 21 min.

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This episode we discuss the greatness of the Great White Shark, the magnificence of Megamouth Sharks, and the luxurious Leopard Sharks! Come take a dive! Follow on IG: https://www.instagram.com/deepdiveswithsharks/profilecard/?igsh=MWNmem1hNmh4aXQwZQ%3D%3D Follow on Twitch: https://www.twitch.tv/DeepDivesWithSharks

## Transcript

[0:01] Hello and welcome back shark Heroes to another episode of
[0:04] deep dives with sharks. My name is Alex I am the host
[0:07] here. I'm still the weird guy that
[0:09] talks to you about sharks for however long this episode is
[0:12] going to be. Now I asked at the beginning and
[0:14] I believe the end of the last episode ran a couple polls and
[0:17] the shark heroes have spoken. Y'all want more sharks?
[0:20] So welcome to the first multi shark episode.
[0:23] Now I plan on seeing how this one goes and if people tend to
[0:25] like it, we can keep doing this. We can keep having a couple
[0:27] sharks per episode, but if people want to go back to the
[0:30] old ways, we can do that. And I also still have a couple
[0:32] things that I'm working on the background, which I know I say
[0:35] that a lot, but new things are coming.
[0:37] I'm trying to keep this rolling, keep it developing and see what
[0:40] sticks and what we're going to leave in the past.
[0:43] But of course, you can follow along with all the updates on
[0:45] Instagram at Deep Dives with Sharks and also hear me ramble
[0:48] about pretty much nothing over on Twitch at Deep Dives with
[0:51] Sharks as well. There you get to ask all your
[0:53] sharky questions as well and anything like that.
[0:56] But of course, I did finally get a question asked.
[0:59] That brings us to our question corner.
[1:02] So the young William wanted to know if a whale shark would be
[1:05] able to leap out of their enclosure to Freedom or in
[1:08] another tank like Destiny did in Finding Dory.
[1:11] So First off, it's a great question and 2nd, unfortunately
[1:15] they can't. They weigh about 35,000 to
[1:18] 75,000 lbs when they're fully grown and the power that would
[1:21] take to get them fully out of the water would be insane.
[1:24] Now these are very powerful sharks.
[1:26] They do generate a lot of power from their tail, which is what
[1:29] propelled propels them through the water, but they don't really
[1:32] get enough speed out of that. They tend to move about 5 miles
[1:34] an hour or less right in that range, so you need to be a lot
[1:38] faster to get out of the water there.
[1:40] If you've ever seen a video of a whale breaching from underwater
[1:43] or a a shark, you'll notice that they're going pretty fast when
[1:46] they hit the surface. So that gets their full body, or
[1:49] at least most of it, out of the water.
[1:51] Whale sharks don't really move that fast, so they'll kind of
[1:54] just get to the top and then their nose will pop out.
[1:57] And that that's about the best they got there, unfortunately.
[2:00] But he also did want to know how they feed the whale sharks at
[2:02] the Georgia Aquarium, especially since each whale shark has a
[2:06] special diet. And it's kind of hard to control
[2:08] if you're just throwing a whole bunch of krill in a tank and
[2:10] hoping for the best. So they target train the whale
[2:13] sharks. Now, the sharks will see the
[2:15] target in the water and they'll come to that spot.
[2:18] So from there, the staff will usually be on floating dinghies
[2:21] and they'll dump some krill into the water in front of them and
[2:23] they'll eat that up. But they also sometimes bottle
[2:25] feed the sharks. Now, not the same way that we
[2:28] would to a baby, but they'll send divers into the tank.
[2:30] And at this point the sharks will come over because they
[2:32] associate the food with divers, which is why you shouldn't feed
[2:35] sharks in the wild in the wild. Sorry, that was weird.
[2:37] But they'll have the square bottle with them.
[2:40] They'll squirt some of the krill into the the water in front of
[2:42] the sharks, usually timing it with when the shark is going to
[2:45] inhale during their feeding. So that way they can get the
[2:48] krill and the nutrients and whatever else they need from
[2:50] that bottle into their system. Now, it's really cool to watch.
[2:55] And I would highly recommend just taking an entire day
[2:57] sitting at the Ocean Voyager exhibit in the Georgia Aquarium,
[3:00] and then go back the next day and sit at the shark exhibit all
[3:03] day. And if I say it enough times,
[3:05] the Georgia Aquarium will acknowledge my existence and
[3:07] they'll send a cease and desist. And I cannot wait.
[3:10] But that, of course, is what I have for the correction corner.
[3:12] And now without any more further ado, we're going to jump into
[3:15] these sharks. The first one we have is
[3:17] probably one of the most popular ever is the Great White Shark,
[3:21] which I'm surprised it took this many episodes for this one to
[3:23] come up. And I tried to make sure I
[3:26] didn't do this as my first episode because I felt it was
[3:28] too generic. So here we are, almost 30 if not
[3:32] over in where we're doing the great white.
[3:34] I've lost track of how many episodes I've done.
[3:35] I should know this but off the top of my head I forgot but they
[3:39] are the one of the most popular sharks in the world, especially
[3:42] thanks to movies like Jaws and 47 Meters Down which if you're
[3:45] curious about you can hear my analysis of Shameless plug in
[3:48] earlier episodes. 47 Meters down was the last episode we did.
[3:53] Now these sharks are part of the mackerel shark family and that
[3:56] includes the Goblin and Mega mouth sharks.
[3:59] The great white varies in size depending on biological gender
[4:02] with males growing smaller than females.
[4:05] Males tend to grow to be about 11 to 13 feet or 3.4 to 4 meters
[4:09] and females grow to be about 15 to 16 feet or 4.6 to 4.9.
[4:14] Now the largest individual documented is the world famous
[4:18] large shark Deep Blue Marine biologist believe that she is
[4:21] about 19 to 20 feet long and around 5.8 meters and many
[4:25] divers get very excited when they see her and if you ever
[4:28] look up a video of her, she's just absolutely stunning.
[4:31] Great white sharks can grow to be about 2000kg or 4400 lbs but
[4:36] of course weight varies depending on gender and genetic
[4:38] factors. Not every great white is going
[4:41] to grow up to 4000 lbs. They can live to be up to 70
[4:44] years old, although many marine biologists do believe they can
[4:47] live longer. It's tough to determine though,
[4:49] as they've been unable to keep a great white in captivity, which
[4:53] I'm going to talk a little bit more about later.
[4:56] These sharks can be found all over the world.
[4:58] They've been found in almost all coastal waters, but can be found
[5:01] in larger density around the northeast United States,
[5:04] California, South Africa, the Mediterranean, Chile, and Japan.
[5:09] They tend to change between a variety of depths, ranging from
[5:12] the surface all the way down to 1200 meters or 3900 feet.
[5:19] They can use the depth as a benefit while hunting as they
[5:22] are breech predators, meaning that they will attack prey from
[5:25] below and catch them by surprise jumping out of the water.
[5:29] Shark Week showcases this very well with their program Air
[5:32] Jaws. The rendition of Air Jaws have
[5:34] gotten more absurd as the years go on, but they aim to find new
[5:38] ways of capturing a great white breaching from the water on
[5:40] film. They tracked the data to find
[5:42] the largest breach, which I do believe as of at least two shark
[5:45] weeks ago was 15 feet. Now, I don't think I watched air
[5:48] jaws this time because I kind of got tired of watching the same
[5:51] thing over and over again, but I still think of the records 15
[5:55] feet right now on on their their programs.
[5:58] Now, the great whites are also migratory and will travel with
[6:01] the seasons. They can tolerate colder waters
[6:03] off of Canada during the summer, but we'll have to move South
[6:06] when the winter comes and move to the southern hemisphere
[6:08] because you know who likes the cold?
[6:10] Not me. Not me at all.
[6:12] Now they have been recorded traveling over 20,000
[6:15] kilometers, or 12,000 miles, or 11,000 nautical miles, which I
[6:20] just found out there's a difference between miles and
[6:22] nautical miles. The difference is that nautical
[6:26] miles account for the Earth's curve on the water and in the
[6:28] air, while miles only account for distance covered on land.
[6:31] So I think elevation is a factor, but I'm not entirely
[6:36] sure. You know, This is why I do
[6:37] social work. There's far fewer numbers.
[6:40] The great white shark has a wide variety of prey, from seals to
[6:43] Bony fish like tuna, other sharks, and even giant and
[6:46] colossal squid. And according to Shark Week,
[6:48] great whites fight colossal squid often.
[6:51] And why they're beefing with a colossal squid, I don't know.
[6:55] But the fact that a 20 foot shark at its largest is fighting
[6:58] a 46 foot squid is just insane and I support it with my entire
[7:03] heart. It Whites are also one of the
[7:05] few sharks that pop their head out of the water to look at
[7:07] stuff like prey or boats or clouds.
[7:09] I'm not entirely positive, as the site said they poked their
[7:12] head up to gaze at objects, which is kind of what everyone
[7:15] does all the time. We're all just kind of out here
[7:17] gazing at things. But sharks do it too.
[7:21] These sharks are a great example of counter shading, as their
[7:24] lighter Gray body works at many depths to break up their
[7:27] silhouette from above. But when you're looking below
[7:30] and looking at their white belly, it's the sunlight that
[7:33] eats it up and then it breaks up their silhouette as well, so
[7:35] they're really hard to see. Great whites are one of the most
[7:39] feared sharks in the world, due in part to movies such as Jaws
[7:42] using them as the main antagonist.
[7:44] Although that shark was straight up just a menace and very
[7:47] unrealistic, but rather fun to watch anyway.
[7:49] But also the way they eat their prey can invoke a lot of fear
[7:52] responses. Seeing a possibly 20 foot shark
[7:55] launch itself 15 feet almost completely out of the water
[7:58] would be unsettling for many. But when they catch prey such as
[8:01] dolphins or eat a whale carcass, they aren't really gentle with
[8:04] it. It's not a simple bite and
[8:06] leave. They tend to grab and then shake
[8:08] their head until they get a bit off that they can eat.
[8:11] White sharks are big fans of whales that have passed as their
[8:14] blubber is full of calories. These whales will attract many
[8:19] sharks and marine biologists believe that they use whale
[8:21] carcasses as a potential mating spot, but it hasn't been
[8:24] confirmed. Marine biologists are not sure
[8:27] how mating works for white sharks, as it is first observed
[8:31] in 1997 and it was only documented in 2020, so about
[8:35] four years ago, going on five now.
[8:37] This is also a very small sample size.
[8:40] Without knowing where mating occurs, it makes it difficult to
[8:42] thoroughly document how it happens.
[8:45] Like we know birds dance, frogs crow loudly, alligators chomp
[8:48] their teeth together, and sharks take a guess.
[8:53] We don't know now. Globally, white sharks are
[8:56] listed as vulnerable for conservation status, but in
[8:59] Europe they're listed as critically endangered as their
[9:01] numbers have dropped more than in other areas.
[9:05] Although they are one of the most popular sharks, very little
[9:07] is known about them as they tend to be very elusive and their
[9:10] habitat covers a lot of area. They have unsuccessfully been
[9:13] kept in captivity, but the longest lasting a few months
[9:16] before it was released. These sharks grow very fast and
[9:20] the species that have been kept in captivity, few have died
[9:23] after a few days or weeks. And those that were able to be
[9:26] kept alive just outgrew their tank really rapidly and they had
[9:29] to be moved to multiple different tanks, which teams
[9:31] realized wasn't sustainable and wasn't good for the shark, so
[9:34] they eventually had to release it.
[9:35] Marine biologists and researchers are still trying to
[9:38] figure out the best way to keep them if they were to in the
[9:40] future. Now, great whites are also
[9:43] ovoviviperous, which means the eggs hatch internally.
[9:46] And marine biologists have recorded pups eating their eggs
[9:50] of their siblings, which sounds insane and rather intense, but
[9:54] they also pretty much eat everything they can put their
[9:56] mouth on, except for humans. They tend to leave us alone,
[9:58] which I do respect and I appreciate very much from them.
[10:02] But that, of course, is what we have for the great white.
[10:05] Now we're going to move on to our second shark, which is going
[10:08] to be the Megamouth. Now, these guys look like an
[10:12] early Muppet prototype that got the Pinocchio treatment.
[10:14] You know, like the I'm a real boy.
[10:16] And then they got released into the world and had a bunch of
[10:18] babies, and now they're all over the ocean, which is cool.
[10:21] So these sharks are found in the deep ocean and are rarely seen.
[10:25] This is a there's usually a big uproar on social media when they
[10:28] have been seen, which I mean, I feel whenever one shows up, it
[10:30] should be treated as a holiday that that's just so cool.
[10:33] They tend to grow to be around 5.4 meters or 18 feet long if
[10:37] they're female, while the males typically Max out at 4 meters or
[10:40] 13 feet. Now there is very much debate
[10:44] online as to what color these sharks actually are.
[10:48] Some people that have seen them say they're black, others say
[10:50] dark blue, some say Gray and others say brown.
[10:53] So take your pick. They get to be your favorite
[10:56] color. For right now, they can be
[10:57] purple, we'll go with purple. That's fine.
[10:58] They have a large mouth, as their name would imply.
[11:01] Their eyes are small and placed towards the top of their head,
[11:04] and their nose is just above their lip and it has widespread
[11:07] nostrils. They have rubbery lips that are
[11:09] uneven, their top lip sticks out more than they're lower, and
[11:12] they have small teeth that can be visible while they're eating.
[11:15] They are the smallest of the large filter feeders.
[11:17] As the basking and whale sharks are much larger, measuring
[11:20] around 30 to 40 feet. Marine biologists believed that
[11:24] they were bioluminescent or had luminous photofores.
[11:27] That's a weird word to say when they were first examined.
[11:30] Many theories were pitched to explain this glow, but none can
[11:33] really be confirmed. That was until 2020.
[11:37] Researchers finally discovered what caused these sharks to
[11:39] glow, and it's that the inside of their upper lip is very white
[11:42] and reflects light really well. So they don't glow at all.
[11:44] They just have really reflective gear on all the time to not get
[11:47] hit by submarines, which I think is effective and also is a joke.
[11:51] They don't actually do that. They do have a very white lip
[11:54] though. It does reflect light.
[11:55] But many people who have seen mega mile sharks believe that
[11:57] they are juvenile orcas before they can be properly identified.
[12:01] Now, I don't really have a clue what a juvenile orca looks like,
[12:04] but if I were a juvenile orca, it'd be kind of offended because
[12:08] these dudes are kind of that type of like ugly cute, like an
[12:11] Opossum. They're rather hideous, but I
[12:12] love them. Now, I do need to clarify
[12:15] something. If you're listening in
[12:17] Australia, I need you to look up an American Opossum.
[12:20] And Americans, I need you to look up an Australian Opossum
[12:23] because Australia got the adorable version of this one and
[12:26] ours got into the leftover math. So it it's fine.
[12:29] That was a quick tangent. I just need the world to know
[12:31] that now. The mega mouse shark tends to
[12:34] spend its day around 120 to 160 meters or 390 to 220 feet deep.
[12:40] During the night, they spend their time around 12 to 25
[12:43] meters or 39 to 82 feet, which is rather deep, but a lot more
[12:48] accessible during the night time than I thought.
[12:50] But also if you've ever been out on the beach at the night time,
[12:54] I can just say at night, at night it's it's pitch black.
[12:56] So it makes sense we haven't seen a whole bunch of them,
[12:58] especially if they're so deep during the day.
[13:01] Now the mega mouth also tends to swim around 1.5 to 2.1
[13:05] kilometers an hour or .81 to 1.13 knots.
[13:09] So we don't really get mph here, but I think it's because it
[13:12] wouldn't really register and it's just incredibly slow.
[13:14] Like go with one mile an hour and then subtract 1 and you're
[13:19] really close to how fast they go.
[13:21] They're they're pretty slow. They tend to migrate between
[13:23] these depths following the flow of plankton through the water
[13:27] column, which would rise at night and fall during the
[13:29] daytime. These sharks tend to stay around
[13:32] tropical waters. Like many sharks, they'll be
[13:34] found around the equator, Tropic of Capricorn and the Tropic of
[13:37] Cancer. Although they have not been
[13:38] observed to go into the Gulf of Mexico, but have been caught
[13:41] sparsely throughout the tropics. Now this does not mean they're
[13:45] not in the Gulf of Mexico, it's just we haven't seen them there.
[13:48] So they've been found in other areas and we just kind of assume
[13:51] they're they're not there at this point.
[13:53] Now very little is known about these sharks as they are few and
[13:56] far between. Since 1976, when the first mega
[14:00] mouth was spotted, there have been 99 mega mouth sharks caught
[14:03] or spotted. Very little is known about many
[14:06] sharks, but there have been thousands of interactions with
[14:08] whale sharks and the whole tourism industry around them and
[14:11] we still aren't sure how they reproduce or mate.
[14:13] So maybe a long while before we know a lot about mega mouths.
[14:17] Despite the lack of available information, marine biologists
[14:20] have observed that these sharks are ovoviviparous, which once
[14:24] again means they have eggs that hatch wall inside the mommy
[14:26] shark do do do do do do and then they're born after developing
[14:29] further. Something that is very neat
[14:32] about these sharks is that researchers had caught 2
[14:34] individuals off the coast of Baja California and Mexico and
[14:38] they took adna sample to test for genetic diversity.
[14:40] Now this often shows if groups are intermingling or if they
[14:43] stay away from each other. They were able to see that this
[14:46] there was not genetic diversity meaning of these sharks do in
[14:49] fact meet and hang out with each other across the ocean, which is
[14:53] pretty fascinating. And that of course is what we
[14:55] have for the mega mouth shark. So that brings us to our last
[15:00] shark of the episode, which is going to be the leopard shark.
[15:05] Now, First off, I'd like to clarify for our international
[15:08] listeners once again, Australia, you don't only have different
[15:11] opossums, you also have different leopard sharks.
[15:14] So Peter River, I need y'all to listen up real quick.
[15:17] Evidently Australia and the US switched zebra and leopard shark
[15:20] names because in the very first episode of Deep Dives with
[15:23] Sharks. Find it wherever you get your
[15:25] podcasts. I covered this US zebra shark
[15:27] known as the leopard shark in Australia, but this episode I'm
[15:31] covering the US leopard shark that is known as the zebra shark
[15:35] in Australia. Really glad I didn't cover them
[15:37] in the same episode. Now for further clarification,
[15:40] this shark is not the yellow shark with brown spots that you
[15:43] see in many aquariums. These are the smaller Gray dudes
[15:46] with brown elongated spots. No, I'm just going to get into
[15:49] the shark. It's fine.
[15:51] Now the leopard shark scientific name, I'm going to try to speak
[15:55] Latin again, have not done this in a while, but this is for
[15:58] clarification. It's the Triachis semi fasciata
[16:02] that sounded good. We're going to go with that.
[16:04] They're also species of hound shark, so that might make it a
[16:06] little easier to differentiate. These guys are found only around
[16:10] the West Coast of the US, Canada, and Mexico, but mostly
[16:13] being found around California. The leopard chart grows to be
[16:16] about 1.2 to 1.5 meters in length, which is about 3.9 to
[16:21] 4.9 feet now. I thought they were much
[16:23] smaller. Every picture you see of them
[16:25] they look absolutely tiny and it always gets me when I realized
[16:28] they're almost as tall as me as someone who's not 6 feet tall.
[16:31] So Yep, got a shout out to all the short kings.
[16:33] Anyway, they are typically a grayish brown color with a
[16:36] lighter brown spots that have flatter heads with wide set
[16:39] eyes. They kind of look like they're
[16:40] bored all the time which is just interesting.
[16:42] I think that's kind of funny. Their spots appear in bands and
[16:45] saddles along their back and their head, with smaller
[16:48] triangular pectoral fins and even smaller pair of cauddle
[16:51] fins. They form large schooling groups
[16:53] after they are born, and often with other smooth hounds and
[16:56] spiny dogfish, which is really cool because I don't you don't
[16:59] really hear about too many sharks teaming up, which is
[17:01] neat. These schools tend to be
[17:02] nomadic, meaning they will travel almost constantly, and
[17:05] they'll show up in areas for a few hours then disappear about
[17:07] as quickly as they arrive. While in these traveling
[17:10] schools, they tend to stay within a certain range and they
[17:13] will not interact with other schools of sharks that have
[17:16] formed, thus causing the different sharks in different
[17:18] areas to have different genetic codes.
[17:20] How many times can I say different in that sentence?
[17:22] Probably a few more. This can allow marine biologists
[17:25] to see the ranges of these schools by catching individuals
[17:27] and taking a genetic sample to see how far they span.
[17:30] So unlike the mega mouse shark, where all the species have
[17:33] similar genetic code, these guys can tell where they're from
[17:37] because of their genetics, which is kind of neat.
[17:41] These sharks often follow the tides to hunt and take advantage
[17:44] of prey caught in shallower waters.
[17:45] They typically spend time there in depths of about four meters
[17:48] of 13 feet or less, but have been observed going about as
[17:51] deep as 91 meters or 299 feet, which is a very specific number
[17:56] there, specific for the Pacific. Who knew?
[17:59] But they eat a variety of prey, including crabs, Bony fish such
[18:02] as anchovies, rockfish, herring and croakers.
[18:04] But they'll also eat shrimp, clams and fish eggs.
[18:07] But if they are being opportunistic, they'll also go
[18:10] for juvenile smooth hounds, shovel nose, guitar fish, bat
[18:14] rays, algae, and eelgrass. Now the leopard shark is a
[18:18] suction feeder similar to the zebra shark and the nurse shark.
[18:22] So I'm kind of seeing the overlap in the names making a
[18:24] little bit of sense here. But the style of feeding
[18:27] requires them to open their bucal cavity that creates
[18:29] powerful suction. Now this will trap their prey,
[18:33] allowing them to be caught. And it's kind of like a tractor
[18:35] beam. So, you know, sci-fi, we got
[18:37] that going to. Similar to the other sharks, the
[18:39] leopard shark will shed hundreds of teeth in their lifetime.
[18:41] While leopard shark loses a tooth, it will typically take 9
[18:44] to 12 days to replace that tooth.
[18:46] I'm not sure if that's fast or slow or average.
[18:49] I've not come across really any of the time it takes other
[18:52] sharks to regrow their teeth. So we'll find out later.
[18:56] Now, leopard sharks are very timid, especially around humans,
[18:59] and they tend to flee, then fight.
[19:01] There's only a single recorded bite that occurred in 1955 when
[19:04] a diver was having a Nosebleed. They reported that the diver
[19:07] suffered no injuries, but this is a pretty good reminder and
[19:10] great example of why you shouldn't go in the water if
[19:12] you're bleeding. Sharks tend to act erratically
[19:15] when there's blood in the water. Thankfully, this one didn't do
[19:17] any damage, but it still probably wasn't the most calming
[19:21] experience. Now, these sharks are caught
[19:24] rather frequently. It's both by recreational sport
[19:26] and commercial fisheries. They're said to have good meat
[19:29] and can be sold in a variety of ways, but Despite that fact,
[19:33] they're only listed as Least Concerned under the ICUN.
[19:36] They often carry toxins if they live close to humans, making
[19:39] them less of a target because if there's toxins in the meat, they
[19:42] can't eat it. They are susceptible to sharp
[19:46] population decline as they take 10 to 12 months to develop pups
[19:49] and they can give birth to up to 37 pups.
[19:52] Now this does sound like, well shouldn't they have such high
[19:56] numbers then? That sounds pretty quick, but
[19:58] they do take longer than most sharks to mature, especially for
[20:01] their size. So they're slow growing, meaning
[20:04] they are easier to catch by their predators.
[20:06] So they're pretty easy prey sometimes.
[20:09] But that there is what I had for the leopard shark.
[20:12] It's going to be it for the episode as well.
[20:14] I appreciate you all listening. Of course, if you want to ask
[20:16] any questions or get more updates, you can follow along on
[20:20] Instagram at deep Dives with sharks.
[20:22] I don't really use the Twitter anymore, so if you message me or
[20:25] follow me there, I I'm going to try to check it.
[20:28] We also have a discord as I mentioned, so check that out.
[20:31] That's a really good way to interact with everyone.
[20:33] You can send in any comments questions.
[20:35] You can also go ask anything in the comments section below.
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[20:50] next one.

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