# 1075: Secret Podcast: Trump’s War Runs on Pure Make-Believe

An episode of [The Next Level](https://invisiblenetwork.ai/podcast/1647085571), 24 Apr 2026, 22 min.

Audio: https://clrtpod.com/m/pscrb.fm/rss/p/dts.podtrac.com/redirect.mp3/audioboom.com/posts/8895338.mp3?modified=1777070426&sid=5114287&source=rss

JVL and Sarah Longwell talk about the firing of the Navy secretary mid-conflict and the bizarre “Trump-class battleship” saga, exposing a pattern of impossible promises and chaotic leadership. Plus: the Spirit Airlines bailout and what it says about Trump’s commitment to “capitalism.” Full episodes of the Secret Podcast are available to paid members of the Bulwark on Substack, YouTube, and Apple Podcasts.

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