# Finally Golden (KPop Demon Hunters)

An episode of [And That's What You REALLY Missed](https://invisiblenetwork.ai/podcast/1645980188), 9 Mar 2026, 37 min.

Audio: https://podtrac.com/pts/redirect.mp3/pscrb.fm/rss/p/traffic.omny.fm/d/clips/e73c998e-6e60-432f-8610-ae210140c5b1/67adaf3b-fc3c-4c67-9613-af12015fa842/b8e89017-6420-41c2-935d-b40800238c35/audio.mp3?utm_source=Podcast&in_playlist=d5f905ac-eb40-4fc6-9d03-af120160041a

Better late than never! Jenna and Kevin finally watch KPop Demon Hunters and share their thoughts on the global record-breaking phenomenon! From the animation style to the music, the film’s massive worldwide popularity, and Jenna’s emotional reaction to watching her daughter grow up in a world where K-pop and Korean culture are now part of mainstream culture. Plus, Jenna even shares a sweet voice note from her niece about why she loves the movie. And of course, Jenna and Kevin get creative and share their Glee version of KPop Demon Hunters! For fun, exclusive content, and behind-the-scenes clips, follow us on Instagram @andthatswhatyoureallymissedpod & TikTok @thatswhatyoureallymissed! See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

## Transcript

[0:01] Speaker 1: And That's what you really missed with Jenna.
[0:04] Speaker 2: And Kevin and iHeartRadio podcast.
[0:08] Speaker 1: Welcome to and That's what you Really miss podcast recap addition,
[0:14] Speaker 1: The one and only. This is a big one, Jenna,
[0:16] Speaker 1: really big one, one of the biggest, Yeah, breaking records,
[0:20] Speaker 1: cap Hop Demon Hunters.
[0:22] Speaker 2: Finally our first time.
[0:24] Speaker 1: It's sad because like I was reading our you know,
[0:27] Speaker 1: little research document before and I was like, oh my god,
[0:31] Speaker 1: this came out in June. Yeah it is. I was like,
[0:36] Speaker 1: how did we miss that boat? Oftentimes, though, I will
[0:40] Speaker 1: say I will wait until the hype is done and
[0:42] Speaker 1: then I will watch something that's fair. So this tracks
[0:47] Speaker 1: for me. I feel like you would have seen this already.
[0:50] Speaker 2: Kevin, Yeah, I didn't because I was waiting for this.
[0:54] Speaker 1: Okay, we knew, we knew it was coming. Yeah, this
[0:57] Speaker 1: is Demon Hunters, wasn't it.
[0:59] Speaker 2: I was going to cheat on you and watch it before,
[1:02] Speaker 2: but I knew i'd have to watch it again because
[1:04] Speaker 2: my memory is, yeah, you good enough to retain anything.
[1:07] Speaker 1: Thousand. Okay, this is capop Demon Hunters. Let's just do it.
[1:11] Speaker 1: The premiere date of this was June twentieth, twenty twenty five,
[1:15] Speaker 1: not so long ago.
[1:17] Speaker 2: No, Number one song in the country was Ordinary by
[1:21] Speaker 2: Alex Warren.
[1:21] Speaker 1: Of course, number one movie was twenty eight years later.
[1:24] Speaker 1: I don't even know how many movies they've done of this, Fraguic.
[1:28] Speaker 2: This was the third twenty eight Yes, it's but they've
[1:32] Speaker 2: now done like one or two more since this too.
[1:34] Speaker 1: No, this has to be more than that. I know
[1:36] Speaker 1: this was a hundred of these.
[1:38] Speaker 2: It was twenty eight days, twenty eight or was it
[1:41] Speaker 2: twenty eight days, twenty eight weeks, twenty eight years?
[1:46] Speaker 1: I know something like that, Okay, well felt.
[1:49] Speaker 2: On June of twenty twenty five, we were recapping season
[1:52] Speaker 2: six episode eight, a wedding and season six episode nine.
[1:56] Speaker 1: Child star Kevin was also in London doing the from
[1:59] Speaker 1: Wow on your musical Bitter Run. Oh okay. This was
[2:09] Speaker 1: written by Maggie King and Chris Apple Hans And this
[2:13] Speaker 1: is a musical movie and this is is this our
[2:16] Speaker 1: first animated musical movie, Kevin, that were.
[2:19] Speaker 2: Very Finally, there's so many I want to do.
[2:23] Speaker 1: I mean they are on rotation in my house, so
[2:27] Speaker 1: let's get into them. Very exciting. This this was music
[2:36] Speaker 1: first for me. I've listened to this music. I listened
[2:38] Speaker 1: to this music every day. Yes, Emma, No, it's everywhere
[2:41] Speaker 1: to Eversum.
[2:43] Speaker 2: I heard it say the Nai Salon.
[2:44] Speaker 1: Yeah, it's it's it's it's killing, it's making and killing,
[2:49] Speaker 1: and it's doing really well. There's just a million writers
[2:52] Speaker 1: on this incredible, incredible songwriters throughout this entire album and
[2:57] Speaker 1: throughout this entire movie.
[2:59] Speaker 2: And Oscar nominated e J and Mark sonom Blick, who
[3:02] Speaker 2: wrote Golden and produced Golden. I think I've been the
[3:06] Speaker 2: most visually out there for obvious reasons, yep, and also
[3:10] Speaker 2: like hearing their stories is great. Mark sono Blick also
[3:14] Speaker 2: wrote the music and theater Camp, which was so good.
[3:17] Speaker 2: Have you ever seen it? Oh?
[3:19] Speaker 1: Yeah, so good? Oh of course I've seen it, Okay,
[3:22] Speaker 1: just making sure No, I know, I know, I mean,
[3:25] Speaker 1: there's a theater movie. I'm seeing it and it's then. So.
[3:28] Speaker 2: The film was animated by Sony Pictures Image Works with
[3:31] Speaker 2: Josh Beveridge as animation director. I really enjoyed the animation style.
[3:37] Speaker 2: It was not what I thought it would be.
[3:39] Speaker 1: Really, what did you expect?
[3:41] Speaker 2: I think because I've only seen small clips and you know,
[3:44] Speaker 2: like still images of it. I think the way, like
[3:49] Speaker 2: how the movement is, it's not just like a straightforward
[3:54] Speaker 2: style of animation that I thought it might be.
[3:58] Speaker 1: Got it, got it? Yeah, it was really really good. Yes,
[4:05] Speaker 1: like I get it good again. There's the voices of
[4:11] Speaker 1: the characters, and then there are the singing voices, so like,
[4:16] Speaker 1: for example, Ardent Show is roomy, and then e J
[4:19] Speaker 1: does Rumy singing voice. Also notably like uh my mayhng
[4:27] Speaker 1: is Mira and then Audrey Na plays Mira singing voice.
[4:32] Speaker 1: So there's all these different voices. Especially also Lea Salanga
[4:37] Speaker 1: makes a cameo. Oh yeah, Daniel Day Kim's in this,
[4:43] Speaker 1: Ken Jong is Bobby joking Booster. It's so good, so good.
[4:49] Speaker 1: The songs are how It's Done, Golden, Soda Pop, take Time,
[5:00] Speaker 1: Free Your Idol, and what it sounds like. I can't
[5:04] Speaker 1: believe it's only those songs I know, because there's little
[5:08] Speaker 1: like interludes within the film as well. So I was like, oh,
[5:11] Speaker 1: I've heard that before, Like.
[5:12] Speaker 2: Golden comes back like three times and then she does
[5:15] Speaker 2: a papella ones.
[5:17] Speaker 1: Love Golden, I Love Golden. My Emma's favorite song is
[5:23] Speaker 1: how It's Done, and then and then take Down and
[5:27] Speaker 1: then Golden.
[5:29] Speaker 2: I did not know there was a boy band in
[5:31] Speaker 2: this movie.
[5:33] Speaker 1: I got it. Now I've seen clips, I've seen you know,
[5:36] Speaker 1: hearing Soda Pop of course, and now.
[5:38] Speaker 2: I'm like, oh, make a lot more sense.
[5:40] Speaker 1: Now everything makes more sense. I'm listening to this album like, oh,
[5:44] Speaker 1: I know what's happening. I understand.
[5:47] Speaker 2: Okay, So the official summary for this movie when K
[5:50] Speaker 2: pop superstars Roomy, Mirra, and Zoe aren't selling out stadiums,
[5:53] Speaker 2: they're using their secret powers to protect their fans from
[5:56] Speaker 2: supernatural threats.
[5:58] Speaker 1: This became such a global phenomenon so quickly, and it
[6:04] Speaker 1: went on to become the most watched original title in
[6:07] Speaker 1: Netflix history, surpassing five hundred million views worldwide. Are you kidding? Yeah,
[6:15] Speaker 1: it's pretty amazing. And I think I've told this story
[6:17] Speaker 1: maybe when we were interviewing somebody. But we were at
[6:21] Speaker 1: Emma's preschool and they did this Christmas party and all
[6:25] Speaker 1: the kids were it was all our age. They were
[6:27] Speaker 1: listening to it at school. They were like, you know,
[6:30] Speaker 1: at home whatever. Her tiny little preschool of like three
[6:35] Speaker 1: four and five year olds. They have glow sticks. There's
[6:39] Speaker 1: a DJ, one of the teachers DJ. The lights are
[6:41] Speaker 1: out and they're screaming their heads off, jumping up and
[6:47] Speaker 1: down to golden and my little heart exploded, like I
[6:53] Speaker 1: didn't think it could explode anymore. And it was like, wow,
[6:58] Speaker 1: all these different kids, is it's verse in like, you know,
[7:01] Speaker 1: all these different ethnicities. But like watching little Emma, who's
[7:04] Speaker 1: half Korean stand with this like me thing, jumping up
[7:10] Speaker 1: and down screaming the words of this song. I was like,
[7:12] Speaker 1: she will never understand what it took for this to
[7:16] Speaker 1: happen and for how far we've come and how meaningful
[7:20] Speaker 1: it is. And it's so it's normal for her that
[7:24] Speaker 1: K pop is just popular and wildly accepted. And it
[7:28] Speaker 1: was like I was like, I am not okay, this
[7:31] Speaker 1: is so cool. This is so so cool, Like she
[7:34] Speaker 1: has no idea.
[7:35] Speaker 2: That's wild to think about too, because I think for
[7:37] Speaker 2: so many of us it also transcends like age this movie,
[7:43] Speaker 2: everybody loves it. But I think, yes, for a lot
[7:47] Speaker 2: of us, we can take it for granted because you're like, oh,
[7:49] Speaker 2: we love K pop and it's become popular and it's
[7:51] Speaker 2: like this is just another movie. Yeah, But for a
[7:54] Speaker 2: whole generation of kids, yeah, this is going to be
[7:59] Speaker 2: like a foundational and there's childhood that they're going to
[8:01] Speaker 2: have for the rest of their life that they're going
[8:02] Speaker 2: to know these songs. They're gonna be able to talk
[8:04] Speaker 2: about it. And it's a movie, like it's a movie
[8:09] Speaker 2: with Korean characters, it's Korean culture in it, there's Korean
[8:12] Speaker 2: language in it.
[8:12] Speaker 1: It's so cool. It's really really and you're like, well,
[8:18] Speaker 1: there needs to be more because look people love it.
[8:22] Speaker 2: Hello, Yeah, I like what is that. I don't even
[8:28] Speaker 2: know what that says about, Like the current state of
[8:31] Speaker 2: things where it's like.
[8:32] Speaker 1: Well, look at squid Game too.
[8:34] Speaker 2: Yes, And I think it's you have all these like
[8:37] Speaker 2: old white people in power, right, and like they've you know,
[8:42] Speaker 2: down the line. They're like, oh, look we're hiring people
[8:46] Speaker 2: who aren't white. That's great. But at the end of
[8:49] Speaker 2: the day, the default so often to like what they're
[8:54] Speaker 2: used to, which is something like.
[8:56] Speaker 1: This, yes, exactly, not taking the risk. It's risky, yes, and.
[9:01] Speaker 2: It's like it doesn't matter. Kids especially do not care
[9:05] Speaker 2: because the only you learn those prejudices and like.
[9:10] Speaker 1: They have no idea. This is what they're this is
[9:14] Speaker 1: what's coming out. This is what they love. It's good content.
[9:17] Speaker 1: It's like fun, it's got story, it's gotten arc, it's
[9:21] Speaker 1: got characters. It's like it's.
[9:24] Speaker 2: It's really good as well. Yeah, yeah, I think it
[9:27] Speaker 2: really does. I think like when we were growing up,
[9:30] Speaker 2: I feel like there were so many movies or like
[9:36] Speaker 2: animated things like that where it was either oh, it's
[9:38] Speaker 2: really wholesome, but it's not cool, right right, or if
[9:44] Speaker 2: it's really cool, it's sort of it's it's an edging
[9:48] Speaker 2: on like not providing like good representations children, and so
[9:52] Speaker 2: like this has everything. It like walks that line so
[9:57] Speaker 2: beautifully where you have these characters who are work king
[10:02] Speaker 2: and they love their fans. It's like a really it's
[10:04] Speaker 2: a really big fan service thing, like oh we need
[10:07] Speaker 2: a break, We're like, no, we don't, because we actually
[10:08] Speaker 2: just want to be with our fans so much. So
[10:10] Speaker 2: I also think it helps like create a healthy fan culture.
[10:14] Speaker 1: Yep, yep, yep. And then also like this like the
[10:21] Speaker 1: messaging of like identity and like hiding who you are
[10:25] Speaker 1: and being breaking open and you know, kind of just
[10:29] Speaker 1: being your true self and that being you know, that's.
[10:33] Speaker 2: Your real superpower.
[10:34] Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, yeah, your flaws and your you know, faults,
[10:37] Speaker 1: et cetera, and just and accepting those and loving them.
[10:41] Speaker 2: And then there's that good. There's a old adage of
[10:45] Speaker 2: why musicals are so special and still are necessary and
[10:50] Speaker 2: still work of the feeling you can get from hearing
[10:55] Speaker 2: a song. It's just so different. Look, I'm not religious
[11:00] Speaker 2: at all. Yeah, but if you play me some gospel music.
[11:05] Speaker 1: You mean take me to chrick Yeah.
[11:06] Speaker 2: Well yeah, like the I will have chills and goosebumps,
[11:09] Speaker 2: and I will feel connected to whoever's singing and whoever's around.
[11:13] Speaker 2: It's like there's something music can provide that the intangible
[11:16] Speaker 2: that we will never be able to I think fully articulate. Yep,
[11:19] Speaker 2: but like that's what this movie because the music and
[11:25] Speaker 2: story work so flawlessly together. Yep, it makes it. I
[11:30] Speaker 2: think that magic special sauce.
[11:33] Speaker 1: Yeah, and the soundtrack is such a massive success. It
[11:37] Speaker 1: became the first film soundtrack to have four songs simultaneously
[11:41] Speaker 1: in the top ten of Billboard Hot one hundred and
[11:44] Speaker 1: earning double platinum certification in the US by October of
[11:47] Speaker 1: twenty twenty five, just like a few months after it premiered.
[11:51] Speaker 1: That's crazy.
[11:52] Speaker 2: Kevin Golden also became the first K pop song ever
[11:56] Speaker 2: to win a Grammy this year.
[11:59] Speaker 1: Ah wow, yeah, wow.
[12:03] Speaker 2: Absolutely nuts. And it probably will win the Oscar.
[12:06] Speaker 1: Yeah, and it's it's winning every it's it's sweeping, it's
[12:09] Speaker 1: it's cleaning up.
[12:10] Speaker 2: And even if it doesn't win the Oscar, it doesn't matter.
[12:12] Speaker 1: That's I mean, it won the Critics Choice Golden Globes.
[12:18] Speaker 1: The film won Best Animated Feature and Best Regional Songs
[12:20] Speaker 1: for the Golden Globes. That kind of like kick started
[12:22] Speaker 1: this whole thing again after it being such a massive
[12:25] Speaker 1: success for Netflix in June. But the parents that like,
[12:32] Speaker 1: we were like, oh my god, everybody wants K pop
[12:35] Speaker 1: demon Hunters. Emma calls it cake pop demon Hunters. Sometimes
[12:40] Speaker 1: she hasn't seen the movie. She's a little too young,
[12:42] Speaker 1: but she loves the music. And every parent's like, oh yeah,
[12:46] Speaker 1: my daughter's obsessed with it. But at least it's good,
[12:50] Speaker 1: and you're like, yes, everybody wants to listen to this.
[12:52] Speaker 1: I don't mind that she wants to listen to this
[12:54] Speaker 1: on loop because it's good and we're all singing. We're
[12:57] Speaker 1: all singing along.
[12:58] Speaker 2: So I think what's also fascinating is that, like the
[13:03] Speaker 2: cultural impact. Obviously K pop has been growing, like your
[13:08] Speaker 2: veer in the US, the popularity around the world, not
[13:11] Speaker 2: just the US, but this movie, I think, you know,
[13:15] Speaker 2: there like a lot of that a lot of k pop,
[13:18] Speaker 2: most of K pop is made in Korea, like by Koreans,
[13:24] Speaker 2: and it has just like transcended that. But this movie
[13:26] Speaker 2: was mostly made by Korean people, but outside of Korea. Yeah,
[13:29] Speaker 2: while like still centering Korean culture and mythology and music.
[13:34] Speaker 2: And that's even what I think is the most fascinating part.
[13:37] Speaker 2: An animated movie about Korea has driven up tourism in
[13:40] Speaker 2: South Korea, so like the twenty twenty five tourism like
[13:46] Speaker 2: skyrocketed and people were going to the actual locations of
[13:51] Speaker 2: animated movie wow wowow. And like there's nothing better to
[13:55] Speaker 2: educate people of all ages than experiencing other cultures. Yes,
[14:01] Speaker 2: And I think, you know, a lot of like separation
[14:05] Speaker 2: and our politics in world today is like fear driven
[14:08] Speaker 2: and fear from the unknown or things that you have
[14:10] Speaker 2: not experienced yourself. And it's like it may seem silly
[14:14] Speaker 2: to say this, but like an animated you know, movie
[14:19] Speaker 2: for mostly children can really help bridge that gap, yep.
[14:26] Speaker 2: And it's like you should be visiting other places, you
[14:30] Speaker 2: should be interested in other cultures because there's so much
[14:32] Speaker 2: you can learn about yourself, so much other people, and
[14:34] Speaker 2: it makes you more empathetic and also it's just a great, greatposure. Yes.
[14:39] Speaker 1: I lak Djokovic also celebrated is when at the US
[14:42] Speaker 1: happened by doing the soda pop things at the end.
[14:47] Speaker 1: I was like, oh my god, even he's doing it.
[14:49] Speaker 1: And I hadn't obviously seen it yet, but I was like,
[14:51] Speaker 1: oh my god, this is wild. He has kids, so
[14:54] Speaker 1: it makes sense, but I thought that was fun. All
[14:57] Speaker 1: of our world's.
[15:00] Speaker 2: Or I've watched the movie, I have sort of been
[15:02] Speaker 2: obsessed with watching the real women who are the singing
[15:07] Speaker 2: voices of Hunterrick's and I remember when they went on
[15:10] Speaker 2: Jimmy Fallon. Yeah, I've literally watched I think all of
[15:14] Speaker 2: their life, also Jimmy Kimmel.
[15:16] Speaker 1: Their voices are great, and EJ's voice.
[15:20] Speaker 2: Is so high stupid like her voices.
[15:23] Speaker 1: I was like, I don't think I could hit this
[15:25] Speaker 1: on a good day, on my best day. It's crazy.
[15:30] Speaker 1: It's really they are so good, all the different versions
[15:34] Speaker 1: we listen to all of them.
[15:35] Speaker 2: I also think, like what this movie has not only
[15:38] Speaker 2: done for the public, but also like when you hear
[15:43] Speaker 2: EJ's story, she was a songwriter and she was always
[15:46] Speaker 2: told she wasn't gonna make it as like a K
[15:47] Speaker 2: pop star, so she became a songwriter, yeah, solely, and
[15:52] Speaker 2: then here she is like on every show on TV
[15:58] Speaker 2: singing the song that she wrote, winning all these awards
[16:01] Speaker 2: for it. And it's just like this movie keeps on
[16:04] Speaker 2: providing more and more like opportunities for great things to happen.
[16:09] Speaker 2: Mm hmmm, and like those are things you can never
[16:11] Speaker 2: ever ever plan for.
[16:13] Speaker 1: No, that's it. It's lightning in a bottle, right, and it's
[16:16] Speaker 1: fun to witness that. Yes, definitely, director Maggie King. She
[16:28] Speaker 1: designed Roomy like way before for a different project. Oh really, yeah,
[16:34] Speaker 1: it was artwork. Her husband is a director and a
[16:38] Speaker 1: story word artist, Radford Secrest, and then she was on
[16:45] Speaker 1: artwork on the bottom of a skateboard before Kang had
[16:49] Speaker 1: decided she was gonna She loved the character, and Kang's
[16:52] Speaker 1: daughter is now named Rumy, so Roomy really lives. Oh
[16:57] Speaker 1: my god, I think this is the most fun and
[17:00] Speaker 1: I like the King. She wanted to create female characters
[17:04] Speaker 1: who were powerful but also messy, funny and imperfect. Isn't
[17:07] Speaker 1: that the dream? Writing for real characters who represent real women.
[17:13] Speaker 1: They're not you know, they're not perfect, they're not polished,
[17:20] Speaker 1: but they're still loved, right, like I love this whole
[17:23] Speaker 1: thing and how it's these three women at the helme
[17:27] Speaker 1: of this film. I also was like, oh, this could
[17:31] Speaker 1: totally be a live action film, even though I obviously
[17:35] Speaker 1: it works better as an animated I think it could be.
[17:38] Speaker 1: I was like, Oh, I could see this.
[17:39] Speaker 2: I also like the like Maggie King has described the
[17:45] Speaker 2: movie as a love letter to K pop and her
[17:46] Speaker 2: Korean heritage and like leaning into like Korean culture mythology
[17:50] Speaker 2: socially like the shamanism, using music and dance as spiritual rituals.
[17:56] Speaker 1: And she the film was also inspired by the work
[18:00] Speaker 1: of Bom Junhole who did Parasite, who is like one
[18:03] Speaker 1: of my favorite directors of all time. And I was like, Okay,
[18:06] Speaker 1: this all is like this is everything.
[18:08] Speaker 2: Too, yeah, because he's able to like walk that line
[18:12] Speaker 2: that this movie does where there's humor, there's action, there's emotion,
[18:15] Speaker 2: and there's like a lot of depth and sort of
[18:18] Speaker 2: like the the obstacles they have to go through learning
[18:22] Speaker 2: about genius, like actual history, where like he presents it
[18:27] Speaker 2: as one thing and then like, oh, this is serious. Yeah,
[18:32] Speaker 2: but like kids aren't dumb.
[18:34] Speaker 1: No, that's no, we have to give them the chance, yes.
[18:37] Speaker 2: And it's like, let's let's see how we deal with
[18:39] Speaker 2: the truth of embracing the things. There's so much about
[18:42] Speaker 2: shame in this movie and like weaponizing shame and then
[18:46] Speaker 2: releasing that shame because don't need to carry that And like,
[18:51] Speaker 2: I don't know if I've seen the children's movie that
[18:53] Speaker 2: talks so openly about shame in that way.
[18:56] Speaker 1: No, definitely not.
[18:57] Speaker 2: And then tackles it. They run head and headfirst into that.
[19:00] Speaker 1: Yeah, I think the closest thing that I can think
[19:02] Speaker 1: of the most recent thing that has touched upon like
[19:06] Speaker 1: not shame, but love and self worth coming from inside
[19:09] Speaker 1: not out as like incanto.
[19:10] Speaker 2: Mh.
[19:12] Speaker 1: Like that reminded me of that piece of Like also, Kevin,
[19:17] Speaker 1: when you were talking about the the animation, Uh, they didn't.
[19:22] Speaker 1: They instead of following the hybrid two D three D
[19:25] Speaker 1: approach like Sony Spider Verse films, the team built the
[19:29] Speaker 1: movie on three D CGI, so it was in borrowing
[19:32] Speaker 1: from anime style expressions and stylization. So it's like kind
[19:36] Speaker 1: of this new format that they created, which is.
[19:40] Speaker 2: So cool, and it felt like that, like it felt
[19:42] Speaker 2: like it almost I think that's what I was surprised
[19:46] Speaker 2: by it because it looks three D, but it felt
[19:48] Speaker 2: two D and some of it it's like presentation in
[19:51] Speaker 2: a good way, and I think that's probably the stylization
[19:56] Speaker 2: is is where that shows the most, like yeah, just
[20:00] Speaker 2: the movements between characters and yeah, yeah. I also loved
[20:07] Speaker 2: the choreography. Oh, I mean the choreography was incredible in
[20:12] Speaker 2: this movie and was like so accurate.
[20:17] Speaker 1: It was so good. The ficial group hun Tricks, it
[20:19] Speaker 1: was modeled after like real K pop acts like Black
[20:22] Speaker 1: Pink obviously twice.
[20:24] Speaker 2: They were sort of like to me, they were like
[20:26] Speaker 2: this like the sisters of Big.
[20:30] Speaker 1: Bang, Yes, like they were that Yes and the Raval
[20:34] Speaker 1: boy bands, the Saga Boys. They drew inspiration from like BTS,
[20:38] Speaker 1: Stray Kids, Big Bang Also. Yeah, So the choreography was beautiful.
[20:45] Speaker 1: The numbers were beautiful. I also loved the tour, like
[20:50] Speaker 1: the meta tour aspect from like the beginning and throughout
[20:53] Speaker 1: the fandom of it, all of them speaking like to
[20:57] Speaker 1: the camera and confessional style about their love for the
[21:01] Speaker 1: He's giving me girls like you know a little Glee
[21:06] Speaker 1: three D Glee three D Yes, and I I really
[21:10] Speaker 1: I thought it was like it was a cool way
[21:13] Speaker 1: to us to get us into the universe. Of like
[21:16] Speaker 1: the fans, like the fans. It always comes back to
[21:19] Speaker 1: the fans of these groups and how they why they
[21:23] Speaker 1: do what they do right. It was a little meta,
[21:26] Speaker 1: but I loved it.
[21:28] Speaker 2: I also liked how, you know, the movie opens up
[21:32] Speaker 2: almost immediately with like their first battle with the demons,
[21:37] Speaker 2: and I like how there's not really a question of
[21:40] Speaker 2: how are we going to beat them? Ever?
[21:43] Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
[21:44] Speaker 2: If they're all in sync, you know and coordinated, like,
[21:50] Speaker 2: there's no way they're ever going to lose, right, they
[21:53] Speaker 2: get so powerful, the three of them are they just
[21:56] Speaker 2: had the plan even towards the end of the movie. Yeah.
[21:59] Speaker 2: The thing that they that makes them get in trouble
[22:01] Speaker 2: is that they separate and they say that through them
[22:04] Speaker 2: like she's we do everything in three part harmony, and
[22:06] Speaker 2: like that's how it works.
[22:08] Speaker 1: Mm hmmmmmmm.
[22:10] Speaker 2: And I really love how, like I hate you know,
[22:13] Speaker 2: when there's always that like seed of doubt in your head.
[22:16] Speaker 2: I'm like, are they going to do like all those
[22:18] Speaker 2: tropes and they didn't, like they didn't fall into that
[22:21] Speaker 2: thing of I didn't even think about it, like, oh,
[22:24] Speaker 2: they're almost going to be overrun, Like no, there's not
[22:26] Speaker 2: something even possible no question, because if they're locked in,
[22:29] Speaker 2: they they got it. Yeah, hits on hits on hits.
[22:33] Speaker 2: And I also like it was about like saving not
[22:36] Speaker 2: only their fans, but like all people through music and connection.
[22:43] Speaker 2: And it's like it's also about sort of like what
[22:46] Speaker 2: are you putting out into the world Because you have
[22:49] Speaker 2: the boy band that shows up and they have great songs,
[22:53] Speaker 2: but what is like their intentions behind their songs are
[22:57] Speaker 2: dark and sinister, right where all hunters this is intentions
[23:01] Speaker 2: always are like positive for the greater good, right, we
[23:06] Speaker 2: love everybody.
[23:06] Speaker 1: And like the lyrics the songwriting element within it too,
[23:10] Speaker 1: of watching them like create these songs, write these songs,
[23:13] Speaker 1: and she's like, the lyrics still aren't right, they aren't right,
[23:17] Speaker 1: And it gives this like extra level of like I
[23:19] Speaker 1: think to what we were saying earlier, of like this
[23:21] Speaker 1: understanding of like now when you hit the right lyrics,
[23:25] Speaker 1: there's meaning behind it, there's intention behind it, And now
[23:28] Speaker 1: as a viewer, I'm more appreciative and understanding of what
[23:34] Speaker 1: like the journey and then also what it means. It
[23:36] Speaker 1: was a sorry, I.
[23:37] Speaker 2: Can't sing this song because these lyrics don't resonate with
[23:40] Speaker 2: me right now exactly which is exactly very powerful and yeah,
[23:46] Speaker 2: and it's like also teaching kids how to like listen
[23:49] Speaker 2: to music and appreciate a lyric.
[23:52] Speaker 1: Yeah exactly. I did feel like I texted you at
[23:56] Speaker 1: one point through the film and was like, what else
[23:59] Speaker 1: could happen? Like we're an hour, Like there's an hour left,
[24:03] Speaker 1: I'm like, what else could could happen?
[24:05] Speaker 2: I had the exact at the exact same point, by
[24:08] Speaker 2: the way, checked how much was left. I was like, oh,
[24:11] Speaker 2: damn it.
[24:11] Speaker 1: Maybe I think there's something that lags in the middle
[24:14] Speaker 1: a little bit. It's like a piece too long, But
[24:17] Speaker 1: I get it, and I don't mind it. I just
[24:20] Speaker 1: had to get through that piece and then I was like, oh,
[24:22] Speaker 1: I'm back in. As soon as I like started again,
[24:24] Speaker 1: I was like, oh, I'm back in. But it's it's
[24:26] Speaker 1: like a little long for a kids film or like
[24:29] Speaker 1: a I guess it's an adult film that kids can watch.
[24:32] Speaker 1: But I appreciated the second half and it didn't like
[24:40] Speaker 1: the pacing was fine to me, it was right, It's
[24:43] Speaker 1: just like a little bit forever.
[24:46] Speaker 2: I could have watched these characters. I mean, they're obviously
[24:48] Speaker 2: going to make a sequel, but like, yeah, yeah, right, yeah,
[24:51] Speaker 2: I just I wanted to be in that world. Yeah,
[24:55] Speaker 2: it also was kind of scary, I thought, so I
[24:59] Speaker 2: was shocked at how scary some of this was.
[25:02] Speaker 1: Well, we watched a sample of this earlier, like around
[25:06] Speaker 1: maybe October, and both David and I were like, no,
[25:11] Speaker 1: we can't. No, it's like I can't you know, I
[25:14] Speaker 1: can't see it.
[25:15] Speaker 2: Well, it's like beautiful character design for the demons and like.
[25:18] Speaker 1: Totally and even the girls, like with their big expressions
[25:22] Speaker 1: when they're like yelling and the eyes and everything, it's
[25:24] Speaker 1: like a little scary, like I and it was, but
[25:28] Speaker 1: it was done beautifully.
[25:30] Speaker 2: Yeah, but I was imagining if like you're a little kid,
[25:35] Speaker 2: because you just.
[25:36] Speaker 1: Really yeah, well I will be like this is scary,
[25:39] Speaker 1: key fast forward. Yeah, but I don't even want her
[25:42] Speaker 1: to see it. Right. It's like the Grinch, I.
[25:46] Speaker 2: Think after you told me that about the Grinch, I
[25:50] Speaker 2: every time I saw the Grinch, I was like.
[25:52] Speaker 1: Every time, you better believe. I'm like, let's go.
[25:55] Speaker 2: He is scary.
[25:57] Speaker 1: He's so scary. I've seen a few characters on the
[25:59] Speaker 1: street who during the Christmas season and I was like,
[26:03] Speaker 1: get out of my way. You are scary. I don't
[26:05] Speaker 1: like you.
[26:06] Speaker 2: There was a point in this movie, and I'm not
[26:08] Speaker 2: saying this because we're a Glee podcast, but there was
[26:11] Speaker 2: a point during this movie.
[26:14] Speaker 1: We would have killed these songs.
[26:16] Speaker 2: I was thinking, like Golden would be like Rachel would
[26:21] Speaker 2: be like, well, this is my solo for competition. You'd
[26:23] Speaker 2: be like, are you kidding me?
[26:24] Speaker 1: It's giving it's giving a redo?
[26:27] Speaker 2: On, Well, did you and Rachel have a diva off?
[26:32] Speaker 1: What's the gollamn style? Yeah, it's a redo? Were giving
[26:35] Speaker 1: Gina redo?
[26:37] Speaker 2: Yes, it's like, no, let her, let her do the
[26:40] Speaker 2: only other Korean song we've ever done.
[26:42] Speaker 1: Ah, although it's very hack Yevin Jenna, I know, I know,
[26:48] Speaker 1: I know I could do it. It's it's not live.
[26:50] Speaker 2: Sure, that's fine.
[26:51] Speaker 1: She doesn't even option down every No.
[26:54] Speaker 2: She doesn't.
[26:55] Speaker 3: Did you hear it?
[26:56] Speaker 2: Like she said she was having like a freak out
[26:58] Speaker 2: before Jimmy fallon? Was she yes? And she didn't know
[27:02] Speaker 2: I for voices going to come out because her voice
[27:03] Speaker 2: was like so tired. Sure you're doing all the press
[27:06] Speaker 2: and everything. Oh my god, she sounded perfect. Its insane.
[27:10] Speaker 2: She sounds so good. That has to be like a
[27:11] Speaker 2: comfortable place for her, because that's crazy.
[27:14] Speaker 1: That is crazy.
[27:15] Speaker 2: Her voice must just live up there.
[27:17] Speaker 1: No, Golden would would have definitely been Anglee.
[27:19] Speaker 2: Can you imagine Golden as a competition song for the
[27:21] Speaker 2: Trouble Tones.
[27:23] Speaker 1: Can we just ask Adam Anders to do that for
[27:25] Speaker 1: us so we can hear it, because I would love
[27:27] Speaker 1: to see that.
[27:29] Speaker 2: I want it.
[27:30] Speaker 1: I need a revival. Also, the boys doing soda pop
[27:33] Speaker 1: definitely great, definitely do so. It's such a bop. I
[27:37] Speaker 1: love it. Emma used to be like fast forward this one.
[27:40] Speaker 1: I'm like no, no, no, no girl, But now we're
[27:43] Speaker 1: into it. We're into it now. Yeah, yeah, I I
[27:49] Speaker 1: I these songs are perfect. How are they going to
[27:52] Speaker 1: do this again? So I was sequel.
[27:57] Speaker 2: That's always your Here's what I think. I think, no
[28:00] Speaker 2: matter what, the music is going to still be great.
[28:04] Speaker 2: I think what you can't intentionally try to recreate is
[28:10] Speaker 2: like this moment that is currently happening for Golden.
[28:14] Speaker 1: Right, yes, yes, yeah, If you're chasing that, then you're
[28:18] Speaker 1: not doing this. Just make good music, right.
[28:21] Speaker 2: Because that's lightning in a bottle that just like one
[28:25] Speaker 2: in a million chants and it's happening. But I think
[28:28] Speaker 2: it's like Frozen two or like that. Music is still great. Yeah,
[28:31] Speaker 2: but like let it go? Do you want to build
[28:34] Speaker 2: a snowman? Were moments because it's the first time it happened.
[28:37] Speaker 1: Yeah, although we did do it with the Unknown, but
[28:40] Speaker 1: it was still wasn't no, it wasn't that, but it
[28:43] Speaker 1: will be like on the Heels, Yes, something excellent, but.
[28:48] Speaker 2: It's still going to be great music. Agreed. I'm definitely
[28:51] Speaker 2: going to because people, these people make great music. Like
[28:55] Speaker 2: that's just that's what's going to happen.
[28:58] Speaker 1: I can't get that beat out of my head from
[29:00] Speaker 1: I just it's too much.
[29:02] Speaker 2: And the nat salon today was the first time I've
[29:04] Speaker 2: heard of since watching the movie and it came on
[29:05] Speaker 2: and I was like, yes.
[29:08] Speaker 1: It's on repeat repeat. Can you blay eck pop demon
[29:12] Speaker 1: Unters please?
[29:13] Speaker 2: It's so cute like videos for dancing to it.
[29:18] Speaker 1: I'll get one. I'll get one. I also wanted to
[29:20] Speaker 1: put in. My brother told me way back when it
[29:24] Speaker 1: came out. He's like, if you guys do cap up
[29:26] Speaker 1: Demon Hunters, we will gladly contribute. My nieces are obsessed now.
[29:31] Speaker 1: I will tell you my nieces are white. This is exciting.
[29:34] Speaker 1: Like I'm like, I couldn't be more the help. But
[29:38] Speaker 1: they love it so I'm hoping to get a voice
[29:41] Speaker 1: memo that we can pop in here about like what
[29:45] Speaker 1: kids these age, you know, six and ten, and what
[29:49] Speaker 1: they're getting from it. So hopefully we'll be able to
[29:51] Speaker 1: pop something in here from them. They said they would
[29:53] Speaker 1: send it later, but I'm just cute. That's important, right,
[29:57] Speaker 1: Like I want to know like what they get from
[29:59] Speaker 1: it versus what we're getting from it, and because it's
[30:02] Speaker 1: such a phenomenon. Hi.
[30:04] Speaker 3: Everyone, my name is Chloe and I am six years old.
[30:08] Speaker 3: I love keepob Demon Hunters. I've seen it a million times.
[30:12] Speaker 3: My favorite character is Rumy, she's the leader and I
[30:15] Speaker 3: love her hair. My favorite song is Golden. I also
[30:19] Speaker 3: like take down a lot. Thank you Aunt Jenna and
[30:22] Speaker 3: Kevin for letting me be on your podcast. Bye.
[30:33] Speaker 1: Should we grade some performances? Yes, okay, let's do it.
[30:38] Speaker 1: We're definitely doing all of these and they're all getting
[30:40] Speaker 1: a's how it's done it.
[30:43] Speaker 2: Plus, I hadn't heard the song. I hadn't heard any
[30:46] Speaker 2: of these songs have Golden before?
[30:48] Speaker 3: Oh?
[30:48] Speaker 1: Really?
[30:49] Speaker 2: Yeah?
[30:50] Speaker 1: Well you really stayed away? Okay? Golden a plus plus plus.
[30:55] Speaker 2: Golden is yeah, a plus plus plus. Also, like the
[30:57] Speaker 2: court when they finally do it at the end. The
[31:00] Speaker 2: choreos so satisfying.
[31:03] Speaker 1: I know, I know, it's really good. A plus A
[31:08] Speaker 1: plus Takedown A plus A plus, free A your idol?
[31:16] Speaker 2: A wait, I want to talk about your idol?
[31:21] Speaker 1: Okay, talk about it, because the.
[31:24] Speaker 2: Whole time I was like, if I saw this in person,
[31:28] Speaker 2: are you kidding me? They start the number by levitating.
[31:32] Speaker 2: It is so cool, and then they show up downstage
[31:38] Speaker 2: and then they pop back up upstage and are levitating again.
[31:41] Speaker 2: I was like, this is theatrics.
[31:45] Speaker 1: It's giving as long as your mind.
[31:49] Speaker 2: But like historically, like the boy groups have always been
[31:53] Speaker 2: more theatrical than the girl groups, and I think you
[31:56] Speaker 2: also see that in some of like like the hairstyles
[32:00] Speaker 2: and things in the group Saga Boys.
[32:02] Speaker 1: Yeah yeah.
[32:03] Speaker 2: And then like they're like stage their stage presence is
[32:08] Speaker 2: like campier, yes, you know, like it is, and they
[32:12] Speaker 2: show up in these like Beyonce formation hats and they're
[32:16] Speaker 2: like demon wear and they're levitating. I just thought that
[32:19] Speaker 2: was so cool.
[32:20] Speaker 1: It's pretty great levitation what it sounds like. It was like,
[32:27] Speaker 1: I give it an.
[32:28] Speaker 2: A chills A plus oh wow, oh, because I mean
[32:32] Speaker 2: it's like the So I think we need to talk
[32:34] Speaker 2: about EJ's range because she can live up there, but
[32:37] Speaker 2: she also starts a song. I didn't think it was her.
[32:39] Speaker 1: I was like her, I didn't know it was her either.
[32:41] Speaker 1: I was like, that's her. It's excellent. Yeah, I mean
[32:45] Speaker 1: her range is crazy. Also, that ponytail must be so heavy.
[32:49] Speaker 1: Every fight girl wants that purple ponytail. I was like,
[32:52] Speaker 1: what is going on?
[32:53] Speaker 2: But we love it? I want it to.
[32:59] Speaker 1: Also the fashion, it was all like inspired by amazing
[33:08] Speaker 1: designers like Javonte, Jean, Paul Gautier, Alexander McQueen, and then
[33:15] Speaker 1: also blending in Korean traditional ements. I thought that the
[33:18] Speaker 1: costumeing was yeah, onto, I okay, all right, let's do
[33:25] Speaker 1: some Cardie shakes, great aucheese. I don't think that. I
[33:31] Speaker 1: don't know. I don't I don't think so.
[33:34] Speaker 2: I don't think so.
[33:35] Speaker 1: Okay, maybe we missed something, but nothing that we saw
[33:38] Speaker 1: in plain sight. Best dance move, I mean, Kevin the
[33:42] Speaker 1: Corey Army is Soda pop also went like viral like
[33:46] Speaker 1: people were doing it. It was it was crazy.
[33:49] Speaker 2: I'm actually sad I missed that because I would for
[33:51] Speaker 2: sure you definitely like golden. But I also just think
[33:56] Speaker 2: I don't know if he counts as a dancer. But
[33:57] Speaker 2: the levitation, okay, let's go with the levitation. It reminded me,
[34:03] Speaker 2: did you did you see the Backstreet Boys Millennium Tour.
[34:06] Speaker 1: I literally was thinking the same thing Kevin. I was like,
[34:09] Speaker 1: is this is giving.
[34:10] Speaker 2: Millennium snowboard looking things or like no shrinks attached? When
[34:18] Speaker 2: they dropped down from the scene.
[34:20] Speaker 1: I was like, yes, yes, it's so true. The best
[34:25] Speaker 1: song Golden, Golden, Yeah, that's the prop.
[34:32] Speaker 2: Man. There's so many good props in this movie.
[34:37] Speaker 1: The card, the card that comes out of the the Tigers.
[34:45] Speaker 2: I love the love the Tiger. I mean talked about
[34:49] Speaker 2: great character design.
[34:50] Speaker 1: I know she's like, what are you?
[34:55] Speaker 2: And I know this is not a prop, but I
[34:57] Speaker 2: just remember what my favorite outfit was when the girls
[35:00] Speaker 2: were all dressed in that black leather when they were
[35:02] Speaker 2: going to go take down Assaga Boys the first time. Yeah,
[35:05] Speaker 2: and they have to go down the slides in the leather.
[35:08] Speaker 1: Very it's very McQueen.
[35:10] Speaker 2: I think that cute.
[35:14] Speaker 1: Best line.
[35:16] Speaker 2: Oh, I definitely known what mine is?
[35:19] Speaker 1: What is yours?
[35:21] Speaker 2: She grew up in America? Someone told burbank us.
[35:24] Speaker 1: Yes, it was like, yeah, so good performance. MVP roomy, roomy.
[35:37] Speaker 2: Oh yeah, yeah, but like everybody was so great.
[35:41] Speaker 1: No really, ensemble cast excellent.
[35:44] Speaker 2: Yes, excellent, excellent work. Really enjoyed this, and now I'm
[35:49] Speaker 2: just pissed there's not a sequel yet. It's coming.
[35:53] Speaker 1: You know, it'll be you'll blanket it'll be here.
[35:56] Speaker 2: Okay, should we found a TikTok jenna completely unrelated the
[36:02] Speaker 2: lamp in curtain Finn's room.
[36:05] Speaker 1: I am Connor Burk. What's this is Connor Burk?
[36:10] Speaker 2: Is we love him?
[36:12] Speaker 1: It's really good.
[36:15] Speaker 2: Listening to Finn say what he should not be saying.
[36:20] Speaker 1: Yes exactly. And there's the literally is like a lamb
[36:23] Speaker 1: chain on his.
[36:24] Speaker 2: Head and wrapped in a Pride flag.
[36:27] Speaker 1: And being deeply offended.
[36:30] Speaker 2: In the corner of the room, the not so good
[36:35] Speaker 2: very our Irish opera. Thank you for this, Thank you
[36:38] Speaker 2: for your art. I love your art. You're an artist.
[36:45] Speaker 1: Okay, Well, coming up, Kevin, we're going to do all
[36:48] Speaker 1: this like musical talk is giving me the feels, So
[36:51] Speaker 1: we're going to reveal our top five or twenty musicals
[36:54] Speaker 1: of all time. So get your lists ready, let's talk
[36:57] Speaker 1: this through. This is going to be a learning for
[37:00] Speaker 1: Kevin sure, and we're just gonna go for it, So
[37:04] Speaker 1: let's talk music.
[37:04] Speaker 2: Make your own lists. Okay, that's what you really missed.
[37:08] Speaker 2: Thanks for listening, and follow us on Instagram at and
[37:11] Speaker 2: that's what you really miss pod. Make sure to write
[37:14] Speaker 2: us a review and leave us five stars. See you
[37:16] Speaker 2: next time.

Shows are listed from Apple Podcasts' charts and directory, and Podcast Index where it is used. Every show and episode belongs to its publisher and plays from the publisher's own feed; this site hosts none of them.