# Bootlegs & The Bee

An episode of [And That's What You REALLY Missed](https://invisiblenetwork.ai/podcast/1645980188), 6 Mar 2026, 24 min.

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Jenna and Kevin are back for their weekly catch-up! They answer some listener emails, reveal which online game they play together, share how they feel about Broadway bootlegs (you might be surprised by their answers), and break down the games theater actors play onstage to keep things fresh… including the one game cast members shouldn’t play! Plus, Kevin shares what it was like having Jeopardy! champion Ken Jennings as a guest speller in Spelling Bee and talks about fellow Glee star Amber Riley joining him onstage! For fun, exclusive content, and behind-the-scenes clips, follow us on Instagram @andthatswhatyoureallymissedpod & TikTok @thatswhatyoureallymissed! See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

## Transcript

[0:01] Speaker 1: And That's what you Really missed with Jenna.
[0:04] Speaker 2: And Kevin an iHeartRadio podcast.
[0:09] Speaker 3: Welcome to and That's what You're Really miss podcast. Hi Kevin,
[0:12] Speaker 3: Hey Jenna, how's it going?
[0:14] Speaker 2: All right? Hey? You doing good?
[0:16] Speaker 1: Happy Friday, everybody?
[0:17] Speaker 2: Oh, Happy Friday.
[0:20] Speaker 1: This is the weather.
[0:21] Speaker 2: Oh you know the weather. It got warm for a
[0:25] Speaker 2: little bit and it felt like, oh it's turning, we're
[0:30] Speaker 2: heading into spring. And then it was like twenty degrees
[0:34] Speaker 2: yesterday and raining.
[0:35] Speaker 1: So really terrible this year.
[0:38] Speaker 2: Yeah, it's it's the fourth worst winter I think on
[0:43] Speaker 2: record in like the past one hundred and fifty years
[0:45] Speaker 2: or something like that.
[0:47] Speaker 1: So what a time for you to be in New.
[0:49] Speaker 2: York, you know, really overachieving. To be fair, there were
[0:53] Speaker 2: articles about it that my sister had sent me that
[0:56] Speaker 2: New York was going to have the most severe winter
[1:00] Speaker 2: had in a very long time. And you know what,
[1:02] Speaker 2: the predictions were true.
[1:03] Speaker 1: They were right.
[1:04] Speaker 3: I did see those, and I actually didn't send them
[1:06] Speaker 3: to you because I knew you were.
[1:07] Speaker 2: Going, Oh, that's sweet of you.
[1:09] Speaker 1: Just let you experience it on your own. Yeah.
[1:14] Speaker 3: I feel like we don't talk, but this is our
[1:15] Speaker 3: catch up, yep, it is Kevin and I play poker
[1:19] Speaker 3: a lot.
[1:20] Speaker 2: Oh no, you're telling them as secret. We played poker, okay,
[1:26] Speaker 2: my brother and our friend Anna, like get a bunch
[1:32] Speaker 2: of us together online and we play poker and it
[1:35] Speaker 2: happens like maybe twice a month.
[1:37] Speaker 3: Yeah, it was happening often for a while, and this
[1:41] Speaker 3: is a continuation. It obviously paused for a while, but
[1:44] Speaker 3: this has been since the pandemic.
[1:47] Speaker 2: And then we stopped for years.
[1:48] Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, years, and then we just passed two months.
[1:51] Speaker 1: I love it. I love it. It's so much fun.
[1:55] Speaker 2: I feel bad because Jenna keeps getting in like fourth
[1:58] Speaker 2: place of the.
[2:00] Speaker 1: Money, just out of the money. I really.
[2:03] Speaker 3: I was so mad the other night and I just
[2:06] Speaker 3: one day I'll get there. But David said that too.
[2:08] Speaker 3: He was like, I feel like I'm always just on
[2:10] Speaker 3: the outside, and then he was like, on a winning streak. Yeah,
[2:13] Speaker 3: so I feel like my time is coming.
[2:16] Speaker 2: I mean, the thing is too, we always play with
[2:18] Speaker 2: generally the same group of people. Some people will bring
[2:22] Speaker 2: like a plus one and some people. It's always online too.
[2:24] Speaker 1: By the way, yeah obviously, but.
[2:26] Speaker 2: I think you know, we're learning how we get reading
[2:30] Speaker 2: each other. Yeah.
[2:31] Speaker 1: Yeah, it's really fun though.
[2:32] Speaker 2: It is. I love that you and David are always
[2:34] Speaker 2: so down to play.
[2:36] Speaker 1: Well, we're home.
[2:38] Speaker 3: And everybody's sleeping, the kids are sleeping, and we've got
[2:42] Speaker 3: nothing to do, and we're probably just going to be
[2:43] Speaker 3: watching Netflix anyway. So it's a very enjoyable thing for
[2:46] Speaker 3: us to look forward to that we both enjoy doing together.
[2:49] Speaker 1: It's not great, you know.
[2:51] Speaker 2: We all get on like Discord and talk.
[2:53] Speaker 1: I love that.
[2:55] Speaker 3: Yeah, you know, Discord was new though we didn't have
[2:57] Speaker 3: that during the pandemic. But I feel like that was
[2:59] Speaker 3: create because of the pandemic, do you know what I mean?
[3:02] Speaker 1: Whether it was or not exist? Oh did it?
[3:04] Speaker 3: I think it's so smart. It feels it's for gamers, right, yes,
[3:09] Speaker 3: I believe so. Well, yeah, it was not something we
[3:11] Speaker 3: would have used. I think Discord has also evolved over
[3:15] Speaker 3: the years.
[3:16] Speaker 1: Yeah, i'd imagine.
[3:17] Speaker 2: So yeah.
[3:17] Speaker 1: I like it though. I think Discord's very smart.
[3:21] Speaker 2: I also like whenever I'm playing mm hmm, Like this weekend,
[3:25] Speaker 2: I was so tired, I was falling asleep playing.
[3:28] Speaker 1: Oh my gosh, it was fast because it's been.
[3:31] Speaker 2: We always play Saturday nights and it's after a two
[3:33] Speaker 2: show day. We start at ten thirty pm and it
[3:38] Speaker 2: usually goes into like one am.
[3:40] Speaker 3: I know, well, when you're on the last table, and
[3:43] Speaker 3: often are I normally.
[3:45] Speaker 1: Am and like Kevin just wants to go to bed.
[3:47] Speaker 1: He's playing fast and loose.
[3:48] Speaker 2: Yeah, this, my brother was. I was on vocal us.
[3:51] Speaker 2: I wasn't talking in the discord, but I could hear,
[3:55] Speaker 2: you know, I was in it, so I could hear it,
[3:57] Speaker 2: and I did some bet My brother's like, uh's tired.
[4:01] Speaker 2: I was like, shut up, Timmy, you don't be two out.
[4:04] Speaker 3: Speaking of Saturday nights on Broadway, you just had a
[4:08] Speaker 3: really fun speller, Ken Jennings.
[4:11] Speaker 1: Yes, what is that? Like, that's so exciting?
[4:14] Speaker 2: That was really cool.
[4:15] Speaker 1: Oh I'm fangirling.
[4:17] Speaker 2: Yeah that was It was like such a surprise, and yeah,
[4:20] Speaker 2: I'm perfect for this type of show.
[4:23] Speaker 1: Yes.
[4:24] Speaker 2: I also I don't know if he's inherently like a
[4:26] Speaker 2: great speller. Obviously he's super smart, but that doesn't always
[4:29] Speaker 2: necessarily mean did.
[4:30] Speaker 1: He get it right or was it an easy word?
[4:33] Speaker 2: He got one word right and he got the second
[4:35] Speaker 2: word wrong, But that also sort of has to be.
[4:37] Speaker 1: By design, right, they make it pretty.
[4:40] Speaker 2: He needs to get out.
[4:42] Speaker 1: Right right here else he's stuck there.
[4:45] Speaker 2: Oh, and the time of recording this m Amber is
[4:49] Speaker 2: coming tonight to the show to be a guest speller.
[4:53] Speaker 3: I saw the spelling Bee teaser on Instagram and I
[4:59] Speaker 3: DMed you and was is it Amber?
[5:02] Speaker 1: And I knew it was just by that clue, but
[5:06] Speaker 1: I was very excited and very jealous.
[5:11] Speaker 2: I can't wait. I'm a little worried because Amber wins everything.
[5:16] Speaker 2: I'm like, Amber, you can't win this one. You cannot
[5:20] Speaker 2: win this. Sheca is I canna start studying now, like
[5:22] Speaker 2: a couple of weeks ago. I was like, no, don't,
[5:25] Speaker 2: because I'm sorry.
[5:26] Speaker 1: She's going.
[5:27] Speaker 2: She's good enough to defeat the amazing writing of spelling Bee.
[5:31] Speaker 3: Okay, well, let's talk about the weakest thing. She literally
[5:34] Speaker 3: was like I'm not winning this. I'm not winning this. No,
[5:36] Speaker 3: I'm really not winning this. I'm not winning this.
[5:39] Speaker 1: It was like to the point where she.
[5:40] Speaker 3: Was like, no, no, no, I'm not winning this, and
[5:41] Speaker 3: like everybody kept getting out and I was like, I
[5:43] Speaker 3: think you are, yeah, but she was.
[5:46] Speaker 1: Like sure, she wasn't, but she wins everything.
[5:49] Speaker 2: So little singer Dancing with the Stars, we just like
[5:55] Speaker 2: Olivier named that Yes or whatever name that tune or
[5:59] Speaker 2: whatever it was, Wheel Fortune, family Feud celebrity.
[6:04] Speaker 1: Yeah, it's too much.
[6:06] Speaker 2: Everything.
[6:06] Speaker 1: It's too much. It's too much. We've had some really good.
[6:20] Speaker 3: Emails from fans from listeners, guess we have, and I
[6:24] Speaker 3: saw one. I don't know if you saw it, but
[6:26] Speaker 3: I wanted to talk about it because in the spirit
[6:28] Speaker 3: of talking about the show and Broadway shows. This is
[6:34] Speaker 3: from a listener, a wonderful listener, who said, Hi, Kevin
[6:39] Speaker 3: and Jen, I have a question for you guys. I
[6:41] Speaker 3: thought it might be an interesting subject for our charty take,
[6:43] Speaker 3: so maybe we can talk about it and see if
[6:45] Speaker 3: this is something we want to elaborate on.
[6:47] Speaker 1: Sorry, that was me talking, not the listener.
[6:51] Speaker 3: I wanted to ask you about your feelings towards bootlegs
[6:54] Speaker 3: in the Broadway world. How do you feel about the
[6:56] Speaker 3: idea of an audience member recording your show and about
[7:00] Speaker 3: whole shows being distributed online for others to see. As
[7:03] Speaker 3: someone who doesn't live in the US or anywhere near
[7:05] Speaker 3: a strong theater scene, I can definitely say that I
[7:06] Speaker 3: wouldn't have been able to become the musical theater nerd
[7:09] Speaker 3: I am today without bootlegs, especially since pro shots weren't
[7:11] Speaker 3: yet a thing back then. Only by watching some Bootlegs
[7:14] Speaker 3: was able to fall in love with that world, which
[7:16] Speaker 3: later encouraged me to travel as an adulta places where
[7:19] Speaker 3: I could experience them live. And still I completely understand
[7:22] Speaker 3: why most performers are opposed to that. I would love
[7:24] Speaker 3: to hear your thoughts about it. Also a specific question
[7:26] Speaker 3: for Kevin on the same topic, I would love to
[7:28] Speaker 3: know how you feel about people recording the guest spellers
[7:31] Speaker 3: on spelling beests. Since those are a one of a
[7:33] Speaker 3: kind performance, do you find it more acceptable if people
[7:35] Speaker 3: record them and share with others?
[7:37] Speaker 1: I love you in the pod, stay fabulous. This is
[7:40] Speaker 1: a very good question.
[7:41] Speaker 2: Thanks Barr. I personally feel conflicted about them, because in
[7:50] Speaker 2: one breath, I do think they are sort of a
[7:53] Speaker 2: great thing, especially for her circumstances where and also in
[8:00] Speaker 2: New York is very expensive to attend, even if you're
[8:03] Speaker 2: in New York or visiting New York, and it is
[8:08] Speaker 2: a great way to see it. I think some people
[8:11] Speaker 2: are also like better at it than others you know
[8:13] Speaker 2: of actually like recording them. I would say from the
[8:18] Speaker 2: performance side of it, I don't want to see.
[8:23] Speaker 1: Your phone totally, totally, totally.
[8:26] Speaker 2: I've seen people recording and this goes for the guest spellers.
[8:30] Speaker 2: When we have guest spellers up and sometimes there's kids
[8:33] Speaker 2: on the stage and their parents are recording. I know
[8:36] Speaker 2: you want to record your kid doing it. And I
[8:38] Speaker 2: know we have celebrities that you wouldn't normally see. But
[8:42] Speaker 2: I think that's just one of the things that's like
[8:45] Speaker 2: that one night only.
[8:46] Speaker 1: Yeah, that like.
[8:49] Speaker 2: It is especially in our theater, and some theaters are
[8:52] Speaker 2: really big and it's litt in a way where you
[8:54] Speaker 2: cannot see the house that much. We can see almost
[8:59] Speaker 2: all of you, I know, almost the entire show.
[9:02] Speaker 3: I mean the experiences that I've had with people, audience members,
[9:07] Speaker 3: not just phones, but in general, like because in Spring
[9:10] Speaker 3: Awakening we had on stage seating.
[9:14] Speaker 2: It runs when people take their phone out on stage.
[9:18] Speaker 1: Yeah, we've had some of that. We people take their
[9:20] Speaker 1: shoes off, we had drunk people.
[9:22] Speaker 3: We had people off as a crazy crazy No, no,
[9:25] Speaker 3: it was like crazy.
[9:26] Speaker 1: There were some like crazy.
[9:28] Speaker 2: And there's also like nudity in that show, so like
[9:30] Speaker 2: you cannot.
[9:30] Speaker 1: Be Yeah, it's a lot, it's a lot.
[9:32] Speaker 3: I mean that even for Hair at the Bowl, even
[9:37] Speaker 3: though that is a different venue, more concert, they were
[9:41] Speaker 3: asking people to put their phones away because half the
[9:44] Speaker 3: caskets naked.
[9:46] Speaker 2: Yeah, I've seen two shows here since I've lived here
[9:50] Speaker 2: that there's nudity and they actually lock your phone up
[9:52] Speaker 2: in those bags. Love it, Okay.
[9:54] Speaker 3: I think that there is something to what bar said
[9:57] Speaker 3: about being able to reach different an audience that would
[10:01] Speaker 3: never be able to or never know with the obviously
[10:05] Speaker 3: the internet and YouTube. I personally am conflicted about it because, yes,
[10:10] Speaker 3: as a performer, I think there's something sacred about being
[10:13] Speaker 3: on stage not wanting to see the phone. There's something
[10:16] Speaker 3: about I enjoy personally like knowing that this perform There's
[10:21] Speaker 3: something freeing to me about knowing that this performance is
[10:24] Speaker 3: for the people in the seats and it will go
[10:26] Speaker 3: away after today, right like that performance, that specific show
[10:31] Speaker 3: will disappear that day, whereas like on Glee, is like
[10:37] Speaker 3: everything is just recorded for life, ye forever. And but
[10:43] Speaker 3: the amount that I have consumed of bootlegs is insane.
[10:47] Speaker 3: Like I love watching Different Jennas and Waitress, I love
[10:51] Speaker 3: watching different Alpha Buzz and Wicked. I love watching shows.
[10:54] Speaker 3: I love that accessing that because I never would have
[10:58] Speaker 3: been able to see this person do that, right, So
[11:01] Speaker 3: I think there's something I understand it, but I don't.
[11:06] Speaker 3: I think that's the sanctity, the sacredness of theater is
[11:11] Speaker 3: that it is live and that it will never exist
[11:14] Speaker 3: again that specific day.
[11:16] Speaker 2: I have thought about during a show of like, oh god,
[11:19] Speaker 2: I hope no one's bootlegging tonight because and it makes
[11:24] Speaker 2: me rethink the bootlegs I've seen where I might have
[11:27] Speaker 2: been critical or judgmental. And I think everybody should remember
[11:30] Speaker 2: this by the way of like, they are doing these
[11:33] Speaker 2: shows hundreds of times, and some of them are not
[11:37] Speaker 2: going to be as good as others, and so like
[11:41] Speaker 2: to be judgmental of a show, of a performance of
[11:44] Speaker 2: a performer on any given night from one bootleg is
[11:48] Speaker 2: totally unfair. Yeah, yeah, yeah, And I think i've And
[11:52] Speaker 2: that's the other thing too, where Austin, for example, we
[11:57] Speaker 2: went to go see a show here. I won't say
[11:59] Speaker 2: what it was. He's seen the bootleg, all kinds of
[12:02] Speaker 2: bootlegs from it, so he was like, just to warn you,
[12:05] Speaker 2: it's not a perfect show, you know, blah blah. And
[12:08] Speaker 2: we went and saw the show and we were like,
[12:11] Speaker 2: it's a perfect show. Interesting, and bouetleg got it wrong.
[12:16] Speaker 2: There's things you can't tell in a bootleg. So I think.
[12:21] Speaker 3: Bootlegs are like watching like community theater, no offense, community theater, but.
[12:26] Speaker 1: You know what I mean, Like bootlegs feel like this,
[12:29] Speaker 1: like I don't know.
[12:32] Speaker 2: Version. Yeah, because also just how phone cameras are built
[12:37] Speaker 2: and microphones are built, it like cuts out certain light.
[12:41] Speaker 2: You're not seeing the lighting correctly. You're definitely not hearing
[12:44] Speaker 2: the sound correctly because it picks up different frequencies of sound.
[12:49] Speaker 2: But I think if you can do it discreetly and
[12:52] Speaker 2: not get caught, and if you're consuming them in a
[12:56] Speaker 2: way that is non judgmental, and it's for like I
[12:58] Speaker 2: love theater or I really want to see the show,
[13:00] Speaker 2: I'm not able to go do it then like great
[13:04] Speaker 2: practice safely. But I don't think anybody's entitled to be
[13:09] Speaker 2: able to film a bootleg. I don't think anybody is
[13:11] Speaker 2: entitled to be able to have a bootleg available. It
[13:16] Speaker 2: is illegal.
[13:16] Speaker 1: Don't do it.
[13:17] Speaker 2: And also if you're in the theater, I better not
[13:22] Speaker 2: see that phone.
[13:23] Speaker 1: Part of me would like just rather like an audio recording.
[13:27] Speaker 2: So there was this woman's great I probably shouldn't talk
[13:30] Speaker 2: about it. There was this woman two nights ago, and
[13:36] Speaker 2: she was sitting near the back and fully had her
[13:42] Speaker 2: phone on, like in her lap. Right, No, she was
[13:44] Speaker 2: in her lap, like she was reading her phone and
[13:46] Speaker 2: the light it's dark, so the light was shining up.
[13:50] Speaker 2: And then Philippe, who plays Chip, I see him looking
[13:53] Speaker 2: at me. Then I look at him and he's like
[13:55] Speaker 2: mouthing like do you see that.
[13:57] Speaker 1: I'm like, yeah, it's great.
[13:58] Speaker 2: Yeah. And because of how spelling Bee is structured, I'm like,
[14:02] Speaker 2: if she is still on her phone by the time
[14:04] Speaker 2: I get up to the mic, you say something absolutely.
[14:08] Speaker 1: Oh I love it, I love it. You're Patty the Pony.
[14:11] Speaker 2: Yes, I might. I already know what I'm gonna say.
[14:13] Speaker 2: But she did not go on her phone.
[14:15] Speaker 1: Okay, ever again drag her.
[14:17] Speaker 2: But listen, this is not don't use this as an
[14:21] Speaker 2: encouraging thing like, oh, I'm going to be on my
[14:23] Speaker 2: phone so Kevin sees me and think he's gonna call
[14:25] Speaker 2: me out. No, no, no, because you will then get kicked
[14:27] Speaker 2: out by the usher.
[14:28] Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah yeah and the ushers.
[14:31] Speaker 2: I see you on your phone. It's not going to
[14:33] Speaker 2: be a great time for you, but please come and
[14:36] Speaker 2: enjoy it.
[14:37] Speaker 3: Have you had any like crazy things happened in the show.
[14:40] Speaker 3: I was thinking about this the other day, like anything
[14:42] Speaker 3: crazy lights go out, like you have to Oh.
[14:45] Speaker 1: The fire alarm went off right in the.
[14:46] Speaker 2: Middle of the show, yeah, with Daniel Radcliffe.
[14:48] Speaker 1: How weird is that that you have to like restart
[14:50] Speaker 1: the show after that?
[14:51] Speaker 2: And it was right I don't know if you remember,
[14:53] Speaker 2: but it was going into the I Love You song.
[14:56] Speaker 1: Oh no, so like we came back.
[14:59] Speaker 2: No, everybody sits down and then immediately yeah, I love
[15:04] Speaker 2: You song starts.
[15:05] Speaker 1: Honestly, what a way back in?
[15:07] Speaker 3: But I feel sorry for yeahs who have to do that.
[15:11] Speaker 2: Is Jasmine, And Jasmine doesn't like ever phone anything in
[15:19] Speaker 2: and so like she's just immediately.
[15:21] Speaker 1: Have you guys started playing games on stage?
[15:24] Speaker 2: We have a couple of times. But the thing is
[15:26] Speaker 2: with that game, it's tough, so like we we were
[15:29] Speaker 2: handing around a little like pastic b But I never
[15:34] Speaker 2: got it because I don't really interact with anyone, so
[15:39] Speaker 2: like I I think I was the only one who
[15:42] Speaker 2: didn't get it. There was a proposed game during Traders,
[15:47] Speaker 2: but everyone thought it was suspicious of Leanna and thought
[15:51] Speaker 2: it was going to be a murder and playing.
[15:52] Speaker 1: Side a devil. It's so very meta.
[15:59] Speaker 2: Where we had to say something in a British accent.
[16:01] Speaker 1: That's funny. That works for your show. Yeah, everybody make
[16:04] Speaker 1: it work.
[16:05] Speaker 2: It's very fun. I remember you told me this. I'm like,
[16:07] Speaker 2: I don't understand how that was.
[16:08] Speaker 1: Yeah, now you get it right.
[16:10] Speaker 2: Did you have any fun games? And like the multiple
[16:12] Speaker 2: shows you've been in.
[16:14] Speaker 1: No, everybody who's very serious and waitress and we did
[16:16] Speaker 1: not play games. Bast stage.
[16:18] Speaker 3: People were fun, but on stage we did not mess around.
[16:21] Speaker 3: There was no time spring awakening, for sure. I believe
[16:26] Speaker 3: the murder game happened a few times where you blanket
[16:29] Speaker 3: somebody or like, yeah, the sticker passed the sticker.
[16:35] Speaker 1: Definitely.
[16:35] Speaker 3: In high school we played that a lot. We did
[16:37] Speaker 3: like games more than on Broadway. I remember Chris Fitzgerald,
[16:42] Speaker 3: the Wonderful Original Blok, and he's been in everything at
[16:44] Speaker 3: this point. Now we were in the wedding and the
[16:47] Speaker 3: waitress and we're off like dancing when there's other things happening,
[16:51] Speaker 3: and I'm talking to him and he's like, you know
[16:53] Speaker 3: you're on stage right now, right?
[16:58] Speaker 1: I was like, yep, I know. The characters are just
[17:01] Speaker 1: we are one in each other.
[17:03] Speaker 2: So I turned to Leanna who plays Marcy the other day,
[17:07] Speaker 2: and she looks at me in like a weird way,
[17:09] Speaker 2: and I'm like, what's wrong and she's like, I'm acting
[17:18] Speaker 2: that's really yes, yes, right. There's also so much downtime
[17:24] Speaker 2: in our show. You guys are just.
[17:25] Speaker 1: Sitting there, you're in the choir room. Kevin, is that crazy?
[17:28] Speaker 2: Yes, And it's really hard to not just like gab
[17:31] Speaker 2: to people. I know we would be that so many times.
[17:35] Speaker 3: I know we would be so bad, Kevin. When I
[17:39] Speaker 3: was little and the King and.
[17:40] Speaker 1: I we would like.
[17:43] Speaker 3: We would get in trouble because like one kid would
[17:45] Speaker 3: start to like laugh in like the death scene where
[17:47] Speaker 3: like the king is dying and the children are supposed
[17:49] Speaker 3: to be crying, but.
[17:50] Speaker 1: You're like nine, like what are you going to do?
[17:53] Speaker 2: Yeah?
[17:53] Speaker 3: There's one time little Jeff he was like four, and
[17:56] Speaker 3: he brought a skittle on stage and it was in
[17:59] Speaker 3: his hand and it died his hand like the collar
[18:02] Speaker 3: I think it was green, got all over his costume
[18:05] Speaker 3: and then he dropped the skill on stage.
[18:08] Speaker 1: That classic.
[18:09] Speaker 2: It's like the most little kid thing to do.
[18:11] Speaker 1: Oh, literally, like, what are you going to do? These
[18:13] Speaker 1: kids are tight? Literally? Three and four amazing anyway?
[18:18] Speaker 2: Three and four Okay, wait, can I go over this
[18:20] Speaker 2: somebody wrote in. Jonathan said, I'm currently directing Spelling Bee
[18:24] Speaker 2: at a community theater in San Diego. Love had a
[18:26] Speaker 2: recent rehearsal. I learned at least two in the cast
[18:29] Speaker 2: are obsessed with Traders, and I floated the idea of
[18:31] Speaker 2: playing the way your cast has been. I'm just not
[18:34] Speaker 2: completely clear on the rules you've used and how your
[18:37] Speaker 2: gameplay goes. Do you have anything written out that could
[18:39] Speaker 2: help us? Love the podcast. I had stopped watching Clear
[18:42] Speaker 2: on season five, so I finally finished watching the series
[18:44] Speaker 2: and time with you. I actually had visited the set
[18:46] Speaker 2: when you were filming the Peter Pan episode. I knew
[18:49] Speaker 2: someone in lighting, but I hadn't actually seen the episode
[18:51] Speaker 2: until your recap. Thanks Jonathan. Thanks podcast that you launched
[18:56] Speaker 2: with us. That's exciting. Here's my recommendation for traders during
[19:06] Speaker 2: your production is spelling Bee. I would advise not to
[19:10] Speaker 2: play it. Why Well, I don't know how close all
[19:15] Speaker 2: of you are in your production is breaking up friendships.
[19:21] Speaker 2: There were a couple moments where things got a little heated.
[19:24] Speaker 2: Everything is fine now.
[19:27] Speaker 1: But because here's the thing.
[19:30] Speaker 2: Because it's a game based around deception and lies and distrust,
[19:38] Speaker 2: some people are able to compartmentalize and be like, this
[19:41] Speaker 2: is just the game. I got to say and do
[19:43] Speaker 2: what I got to do for the sake of the game.
[19:46] Speaker 2: But I do think that is against most people's spirit. Yeah,
[19:51] Speaker 2: I think because I think a lot of people everyone's
[19:53] Speaker 2: going to get accused of lying everyone and people take.
[19:56] Speaker 1: That be traders. Yes, we were in Betrayers and betray
[20:03] Speaker 1: so I I yeah, yeah, yeah, I get it.
[20:06] Speaker 2: I don't know.
[20:07] Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah. If you want this show to go, well, maybe.
[20:10] Speaker 2: Not, because I will say we were all we all
[20:13] Speaker 2: loved it. We all had a great time, some ust
[20:15] Speaker 2: more than others. But whenever we did get banished or murdered,
[20:19] Speaker 2: most of us were like, oh thank.
[20:20] Speaker 1: God, relief. Yeah, honestly, yeah, it was.
[20:25] Speaker 2: And it's also a lot because you spend so much
[20:27] Speaker 2: time outside of the job, like texting people and gaming.
[20:32] Speaker 2: It's it's really time consuming and exhausting. I don't know
[20:36] Speaker 2: I would. I would, honestly, I don't know how long
[20:38] Speaker 2: your run is. I'm not sure I would. I would
[20:42] Speaker 2: sort of advise against it. It's okay, fair enough. How's
[20:53] Speaker 2: the Asian American Girl.
[20:54] Speaker 1: Club AGC is going? Really well?
[20:58] Speaker 3: We've got some ex citing things coming that I can't
[21:01] Speaker 3: even talk about. But the podcast is launching in a
[21:05] Speaker 3: few weeks and it's been amazing. We're having so much fun.
[21:11] Speaker 3: AGC is just it's time consuming, but it's good work.
[21:17] Speaker 3: And I look at my kids and I'm like, I'm
[21:19] Speaker 3: doing this for you, and.
[21:23] Speaker 1: Yeah, just a lot of things in the works. And
[21:27] Speaker 1: May is.
[21:29] Speaker 3: Asian Pacific Islander month, so like it's a big month
[21:33] Speaker 3: for us. Lots of stuff happening.
[21:36] Speaker 1: We're going to be.
[21:39] Speaker 3: It's just too many events, honestly, but so many events
[21:43] Speaker 3: where you know there's going to be some new merch,
[21:46] Speaker 3: some new things. So we're it's all stewing. We're stewing
[21:49] Speaker 3: right now, but hopefully it'll be good. And things are
[21:52] Speaker 3: going really well and the podcast is going well.
[21:55] Speaker 1: I'm a I'm a.
[21:56] Speaker 3: Serial podcaster at this point, but it's it's so much
[22:00] Speaker 3: fun and it's been having really great conversations with people.
[22:03] Speaker 3: So yeah, we're doing it. We're doing it in all
[22:06] Speaker 3: the hours, and I'm not doing this into a million classes.
[22:13] Speaker 2: Are they in a billion classes?
[22:14] Speaker 3: Yeah? Well, Graham's in this like soft play developmental like
[22:18] Speaker 3: movement class that like they do with like all this
[22:21] Speaker 3: fun stuff. Anyway, he's learning how to walk, and then
[22:23] Speaker 3: he has like a tothering me class for preschool that'll
[22:25] Speaker 3: go to. And then Amazon gymnastics, and she's in dance.
[22:28] Speaker 3: And we tried soccer didn't work out, so we're just
[22:31] Speaker 3: like we're in it. We've gotten her a tennis racket, Kevin.
[22:35] Speaker 3: She loves to watch tennis.
[22:37] Speaker 2: She does.
[22:38] Speaker 1: She loves tennis. Every sport is tennis.
[22:40] Speaker 3: She'll see baseball on TV and she'll be like, tennis,
[22:43] Speaker 3: I'm like, that's pacefall, but tennis she really likes watching.
[22:47] Speaker 2: Take her to Indian Wells.
[22:48] Speaker 1: I know we got it. At some point we will.
[22:50] Speaker 1: We'll take them both. But next year it's going to.
[22:52] Speaker 2: All go together.
[22:53] Speaker 1: Yeah, let's go.
[22:54] Speaker 2: There's also some like like events surrounding it, like the
[22:58] Speaker 2: Desert Smash and.
[22:59] Speaker 1: Things that that would be fun.
[23:01] Speaker 2: Yeah, because it's less serious, she could see it in person.
[23:04] Speaker 2: I think it's probably more kid friendly, Like we should
[23:07] Speaker 2: try to make that happen next year.
[23:11] Speaker 3: We should definitely make that happen. I think there's like
[23:12] Speaker 3: a kid's event too or something.
[23:14] Speaker 2: So you have a free place to stay.
[23:17] Speaker 1: Oh my god, we can stay.
[23:20] Speaker 2: Yes, it is so crazy.
[23:21] Speaker 3: We used to have to like source places to stay,
[23:24] Speaker 3: not anymore, very exciting.
[23:26] Speaker 2: Kevin Okay today Kevin is available.
[23:29] Speaker 1: Yay.
[23:30] Speaker 3: Well, thanks everybody for coming to our FaceTime post catch up.
[23:35] Speaker 3: I hope you guys enjoyed it.
[23:38] Speaker 2: I did. I can't wait to see how I Amberta.
[23:41] Speaker 2: I'll text you after.
[23:42] Speaker 1: Oh my god, please do we have to talk about
[23:44] Speaker 1: it next time?
[23:45] Speaker 2: Yes? Thanks for joining us, and as you really missed,
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