# You Might Be Right A podcast by Baker School of Public Policy and Public Affairs at University of Tennessee. Former Tennessee Governors Phil Bredesen and Bill Haslam bring their perspectives to some of the country’s most challenging public policy questions, joined by expert guests with a range of viewpoints. In Season 9, they turn their attention to issues shaping the national conversation ahead of the midterm elections, including redistricting, affordability and what the polling numbers reveal about American voters. Produced by the Howard H. Baker Jr. School of Public Policy and Public Affairs at the University of Tennessee, "You Might Be Right" demonstrates that disagreement doesn’t have to mean division. Through thoughtful, civil conversations, the podcast explores complex issues, finds areas of common ground, and models a more constructive approach to public discourse. Feed: https://feeds.megaphone.fm/TPG3642274661 ## Latest episodes - [How will populism impact the midterms? – with Patrick Ruffini and Ruy Teixeira](https://invisiblenetwork.ai/podcast/1642334178/df2c3a9f9d66) (2026-10-15, 54 min): audio https://www.podtrac.com/pts/redirect.mp3/pdst.fm/e/tracking.swap.fm/track/tcQd6Q6C0RUUlOHq1Ytj/mgln.ai/e/51/pdrl.fm/002dc3/traffic.megaphone.fm/TPG1827092571.mp3 - [Are We Really Experiencing an Affordability Crisis? – with Michael Strain and Jason Furman](https://invisiblenetwork.ai/podcast/1642334178/e413fd8774dc) (2026-10-01, 54 min): audio https://www.podtrac.com/pts/redirect.mp3/pdst.fm/e/tracking.swap.fm/track/tcQd6Q6C0RUUlOHq1Ytj/mgln.ai/e/51/pdrl.fm/002dc3/traffic.megaphone.fm/TPG6947731736.mp3 - [Will Redistricting Shape the Midterms? - with Jonathan Rodden and Sam Wang](https://invisiblenetwork.ai/podcast/1642334178/a5355c8bfb0b) (2026-09-17, 52 min): audio https://www.podtrac.com/pts/redirect.mp3/pdst.fm/e/tracking.swap.fm/track/tcQd6Q6C0RUUlOHq1Ytj/mgln.ai/e/51/pdrl.fm/002dc3/traffic.megaphone.fm/TPG4614349387.mp3 - [What Dolly Parton Taught Us About Common Ground](https://invisiblenetwork.ai/podcast/1642334178/bf0607960d06) (2026-09-05, 26 min): audio https://www.podtrac.com/pts/redirect.mp3/pdst.fm/e/tracking.swap.fm/track/tcQd6Q6C0RUUlOHq1Ytj/mgln.ai/e/51/pdrl.fm/002dc3/traffic.megaphone.fm/TPG6520998560.mp3 - [Can We Trust What the Polls Say About the 2026 Midterms? – with Kristen Soltis Anderson and Anna Greenberg](https://invisiblenetwork.ai/podcast/1642334178/46982ef5290c) (2026-09-03, 57 min): audio https://www.podtrac.com/pts/redirect.mp3/pdst.fm/e/tracking.swap.fm/track/tcQd6Q6C0RUUlOHq1Ytj/mgln.ai/e/51/pdrl.fm/002dc3/traffic.megaphone.fm/TPG4828027240.mp3 - [Introducing "You Might Be Right" Season 9](https://invisiblenetwork.ai/podcast/1642334178/81ab15d66ae9) (2026-08-25, 3 min): audio https://www.podtrac.com/pts/redirect.mp3/pdst.fm/e/tracking.swap.fm/track/tcQd6Q6C0RUUlOHq1Ytj/mgln.ai/e/51/pdrl.fm/002dc3/traffic.megaphone.fm/TPG4916061731.mp3 - [Should Taxpayers Pay for R&D? – with Jeffrey Miron and Aldo Musacchio](https://invisiblenetwork.ai/podcast/1642334178/3b109c3950e6) (2026-05-21, 53 min): audio https://www.podtrac.com/pts/redirect.mp3/pdst.fm/e/tracking.swap.fm/track/tcQd6Q6C0RUUlOHq1Ytj/mgln.ai/e/51/pdrl.fm/002dc3/traffic.megaphone.fm/TPG7390453163.mp3 - [Who Should Regulate AI? – with Kristian Stout and Bruce Schneier](https://invisiblenetwork.ai/podcast/1642334178/61eadd0e2bdb) (2026-05-07, 55 min): audio https://www.podtrac.com/pts/redirect.mp3/pdst.fm/e/tracking.swap.fm/track/tcQd6Q6C0RUUlOHq1Ytj/mgln.ai/e/51/pdrl.fm/002dc3/traffic.megaphone.fm/TPG6975509108.mp3?updated=1778135012 - [Should Federal Dollars Come with Strings Attached? – with Mitch Daniels & Elena Patel](https://invisiblenetwork.ai/podcast/1642334178/3df5c5cd54c6) (2026-04-23, 54 min): audio https://www.podtrac.com/pts/redirect.mp3/pdst.fm/e/tracking.swap.fm/track/tcQd6Q6C0RUUlOHq1Ytj/mgln.ai/e/51/pdrl.fm/002dc3/traffic.megaphone.fm/TPG2570237200.mp3?updated=1776876967 - [Is there too much money in politics? – with Larry Lessig and Brad Smith](https://invisiblenetwork.ai/podcast/1642334178/b6ae4dc1faef) (2026-04-09, 53 min): audio https://www.podtrac.com/pts/redirect.mp3/pdst.fm/e/tracking.swap.fm/track/tcQd6Q6C0RUUlOHq1Ytj/mgln.ai/e/51/pdrl.fm/002dc3/traffic.megaphone.fm/TPG4055681199.mp3?updated=1775667970 - [Can the President do that? – with Jack Goldsmith and Ilya Shapiro](https://invisiblenetwork.ai/podcast/1642334178/2ac656f765ac) (2026-03-26, 53 min): audio https://www.podtrac.com/pts/redirect.mp3/pdst.fm/e/tracking.swap.fm/track/tcQd6Q6C0RUUlOHq1Ytj/mgln.ai/e/51/pdrl.fm/002dc3/traffic.megaphone.fm/TPG1166636712.mp3?updated=1774489408 - [When and How Should the National Guard be Deployed? – with Rosa Brooks and John Yoo](https://invisiblenetwork.ai/podcast/1642334178/8265732695ee) (2026-03-10, 59 min): audio https://www.podtrac.com/pts/redirect.mp3/pdst.fm/e/tracking.swap.fm/track/tcQd6Q6C0RUUlOHq1Ytj/mgln.ai/e/51/pdrl.fm/002dc3/traffic.megaphone.fm/TPG1306595094.mp3?updated=1773250036 - [Introducing "You Might Be Right"](https://invisiblenetwork.ai/podcast/1642334178/072136d8f4c1) (2026-03-04, 2 min): audio https://www.podtrac.com/pts/redirect.mp3/pdst.fm/e/tracking.swap.fm/track/tcQd6Q6C0RUUlOHq1Ytj/mgln.ai/e/51/pdrl.fm/002dc3/traffic.megaphone.fm/TPG8300003574.mp3?updated=1773163254 - [A Baker's Dozen - Howard Baker's 1998 Senate Address](https://invisiblenetwork.ai/podcast/1642334178/9f52b45d6820) (2025-12-02, 32 min): audio https://www.podtrac.com/pts/redirect.mp3/pdst.fm/e/tracking.swap.fm/track/tcQd6Q6C0RUUlOHq1Ytj/mgln.ai/e/51/pdrl.fm/002dc3/traffic.megaphone.fm/TPG7465339241.mp3?updated=1772585650 - [Would Howard Baker Have a Place in Today's Politics? – with Tom Daschle and Ben Sasse](https://invisiblenetwork.ai/podcast/1642334178/3a3262408017) (2025-11-11, 62 min): audio https://www.podtrac.com/pts/redirect.mp3/pdst.fm/e/tracking.swap.fm/track/tcQd6Q6C0RUUlOHq1Ytj/mgln.ai/e/51/pdrl.fm/002dc3/traffic.megaphone.fm/TPG3036100947.mp3?updated=1772586304 - [What Do Universities Owe Society? – with Ron Daniels](https://invisiblenetwork.ai/podcast/1642334178/2704a4134c32) (2025-10-28, 53 min): audio https://www.podtrac.com/pts/redirect.mp3/pdst.fm/e/tracking.swap.fm/track/tcQd6Q6C0RUUlOHq1Ytj/mgln.ai/e/51/pdrl.fm/002dc3/traffic.megaphone.fm/TPG3979497286.mp3?updated=1772586439 - [Is the Federal Reserve Doing Its Job? – with Austan Goolsbee and Charles Calomiris](https://invisiblenetwork.ai/podcast/1642334178/0ed6812f95e5) (2025-10-14, 56 min): audio https://www.podtrac.com/pts/redirect.mp3/pdst.fm/e/tracking.swap.fm/track/tcQd6Q6C0RUUlOHq1Ytj/mgln.ai/e/51/pdrl.fm/002dc3/traffic.megaphone.fm/TPG6537426026.mp3?updated=1772586946 - [If the Economy is Up, Why do Americans Feel Down? – with Whit Ayres, John Lettieri, and Marianne Wanamaker](https://invisiblenetwork.ai/podcast/1642334178/6cd3f1cf9c1f) (2025-10-02, 56 min): audio https://www.podtrac.com/pts/redirect.mp3/pdst.fm/e/tracking.swap.fm/track/tcQd6Q6C0RUUlOHq1Ytj/mgln.ai/e/51/pdrl.fm/002dc3/traffic.megaphone.fm/TPG8969947876.mp3?updated=1772597532 - [Do we have enough energy to power the country? – with Reagan Farr and and Shameek Konar](https://invisiblenetwork.ai/podcast/1642334178/4c97bd19b5d4) (2025-09-16, 48 min): audio https://www.podtrac.com/pts/redirect.mp3/pdst.fm/e/tracking.swap.fm/track/tcQd6Q6C0RUUlOHq1Ytj/mgln.ai/e/51/pdrl.fm/002dc3/traffic.megaphone.fm/TPG6347331099.mp3?updated=1773347540 - [Who Judges the Judges? – with Holly Kirby, Sharon Lee, and Alberto Gonzales](https://invisiblenetwork.ai/podcast/1642334178/9ce6fd885a9d) (2025-09-02, 59 min): audio https://www.podtrac.com/pts/redirect.mp3/pdst.fm/e/tracking.swap.fm/track/tcQd6Q6C0RUUlOHq1Ytj/mgln.ai/e/51/pdrl.fm/002dc3/traffic.megaphone.fm/TPG7617987073.mp3?updated=1773355892 - [Is Public Education in Crisis? – with Jeb Bush, John White, and Rahm Emanuel](https://invisiblenetwork.ai/podcast/1642334178/139984cbabf0) (2025-05-13, 61 min): audio https://www.podtrac.com/pts/redirect.mp3/pdst.fm/e/tracking.swap.fm/track/tcQd6Q6C0RUUlOHq1Ytj/mgln.ai/e/51/pdrl.fm/002dc3/traffic.megaphone.fm/TPG5981762158.mp3?updated=1773357025 - [Can We Still Count on the Separation of Powers? – with Cass Sunstein and David Lewis](https://invisiblenetwork.ai/podcast/1642334178/72b1f37bed56) (2025-04-29, 55 min): audio https://www.podtrac.com/pts/redirect.mp3/pdst.fm/e/tracking.swap.fm/track/tcQd6Q6C0RUUlOHq1Ytj/mgln.ai/e/51/pdrl.fm/002dc3/traffic.megaphone.fm/TPG2541517737.mp3?updated=1773357918 - [How important are foreign alliances? – with Rahm Emanuel and Michael Kimmage](https://invisiblenetwork.ai/podcast/1642334178/4e79542cc6c6) (2025-04-15, 53 min): audio https://www.podtrac.com/pts/redirect.mp3/pdst.fm/e/tracking.swap.fm/track/tcQd6Q6C0RUUlOHq1Ytj/mgln.ai/e/51/pdrl.fm/002dc3/traffic.megaphone.fm/TPG6483482335.mp3?updated=1773455111 - [Has Pardon Power Gone Too Far? – with Mike Nelson and Steve Vladeck](https://invisiblenetwork.ai/podcast/1642334178/578abef93861) (2025-04-01, 43 min): audio https://www.podtrac.com/pts/redirect.mp3/pdst.fm/e/tracking.swap.fm/track/tcQd6Q6C0RUUlOHq1Ytj/mgln.ai/e/51/pdrl.fm/002dc3/traffic.megaphone.fm/TPG1610351454.mp3?updated=1773455924 - [Can government work better and cost less? – with Elaine Kamarck and Jim Capretta](https://invisiblenetwork.ai/podcast/1642334178/914f2f49366e) (2025-03-18, 49 min): audio https://www.podtrac.com/pts/redirect.mp3/pdst.fm/e/tracking.swap.fm/track/tcQd6Q6C0RUUlOHq1Ytj/mgln.ai/e/51/pdrl.fm/002dc3/traffic.megaphone.fm/TPG1929525918.mp3?updated=1773456652 - [Is this the end of free trade? – with Heather Long and James Lake](https://invisiblenetwork.ai/podcast/1642334178/3726f3647f04) (2025-03-06, 47 min): audio https://www.podtrac.com/pts/redirect.mp3/pdst.fm/e/tracking.swap.fm/track/tcQd6Q6C0RUUlOHq1Ytj/mgln.ai/e/51/pdrl.fm/002dc3/traffic.megaphone.fm/TPG6445717394.mp3?updated=1773457102 - [2024 Election – What Did We Learn? – with Andy Busch and Lindsay Chervinsky](https://invisiblenetwork.ai/podcast/1642334178/eb2bb74de455) (2024-11-21, 48 min): audio https://www.podtrac.com/pts/redirect.mp3/pdst.fm/e/tracking.swap.fm/track/tcQd6Q6C0RUUlOHq1Ytj/mgln.ai/e/51/pdrl.fm/002dc3/traffic.megaphone.fm/TPG7963373610.mp3?updated=1774022441 - [Can the Supreme Court be impartial? – with Steve Vladeck and John McGinnis](https://invisiblenetwork.ai/podcast/1642334178/5d912b72e6de) (2024-10-31, 60 min): audio https://www.podtrac.com/pts/redirect.mp3/pdst.fm/e/tracking.swap.fm/track/tcQd6Q6C0RUUlOHq1Ytj/mgln.ai/e/51/pdrl.fm/002dc3/traffic.megaphone.fm/TPG2001337183.mp3?updated=1774055311 - [Can the Constitution help fight polarization? – with Yuval Levin](https://invisiblenetwork.ai/podcast/1642334178/4fd895fc61e2) (2024-10-22, 56 min): audio https://www.podtrac.com/pts/redirect.mp3/pdst.fm/e/tracking.swap.fm/track/tcQd6Q6C0RUUlOHq1Ytj/mgln.ai/e/51/pdrl.fm/002dc3/traffic.megaphone.fm/TPG5093126456.mp3?updated=1774055930 - [How has polarization changed governing? – with Anthony Foxx and Margaret Spellings](https://invisiblenetwork.ai/podcast/1642334178/0cb8eb64f7f4) (2024-10-08, 55 min): audio https://www.podtrac.com/pts/redirect.mp3/pdst.fm/e/tracking.swap.fm/track/tcQd6Q6C0RUUlOHq1Ytj/mgln.ai/e/51/pdrl.fm/002dc3/traffic.megaphone.fm/TPG5587371744.mp3?updated=1774056290 - [Is the Political Left and Right a Myth? – with Hyrum Lewis and Verlan Lewis](https://invisiblenetwork.ai/podcast/1642334178/fe5915f4b51d) (2024-09-24, 59 min): audio https://www.podtrac.com/pts/redirect.mp3/pdst.fm/e/tracking.swap.fm/track/tcQd6Q6C0RUUlOHq1Ytj/mgln.ai/e/51/pdrl.fm/002dc3/traffic.megaphone.fm/TPG8553082063.mp3?updated=1774056879 - [What does the research say about polarization? – with Rachel Kleinfeld](https://invisiblenetwork.ai/podcast/1642334178/ae57ce372f60) (2024-09-10, 45 min): audio https://www.podtrac.com/pts/redirect.mp3/pdst.fm/e/tracking.swap.fm/track/tcQd6Q6C0RUUlOHq1Ytj/mgln.ai/e/51/pdrl.fm/002dc3/traffic.megaphone.fm/TPG6789333611.mp3?updated=1774057225 - [Phil & Bill Answer Your Questions](https://invisiblenetwork.ai/podcast/1642334178/0bc78b33ce16) (2024-08-20, 34 min): audio https://www.podtrac.com/pts/redirect.mp3/pdst.fm/e/tracking.swap.fm/track/tcQd6Q6C0RUUlOHq1Ytj/mgln.ai/e/51/pdrl.fm/002dc3/traffic.megaphone.fm/TPG7604269727.mp3?updated=1774058440 - [What's Happening with AI Right Now? – with Michael Kratsios](https://invisiblenetwork.ai/podcast/1642334178/8bef3f4c49c8) (2024-08-06, 44 min): audio https://www.podtrac.com/pts/redirect.mp3/pdst.fm/e/tracking.swap.fm/track/tcQd6Q6C0RUUlOHq1Ytj/mgln.ai/e/51/pdrl.fm/002dc3/traffic.megaphone.fm/TPG6460875733.mp3?updated=1774058857 - [What is the history and future of presidential debates? – with Frank Fahrenkopf](https://invisiblenetwork.ai/podcast/1642334178/0d69166e3949) (2024-06-24, 34 min): audio https://www.podtrac.com/pts/redirect.mp3/pdst.fm/e/tracking.swap.fm/track/tcQd6Q6C0RUUlOHq1Ytj/mgln.ai/e/51/pdrl.fm/002dc3/traffic.megaphone.fm/TPG6456494983.mp3?updated=1774059170 - [How can we disagree better? – with Spencer Cox and Jared Polis](https://invisiblenetwork.ai/podcast/1642334178/04f9f3632198) (2024-03-26, 33 min): audio https://www.podtrac.com/pts/redirect.mp3/pdst.fm/e/tracking.swap.fm/track/tcQd6Q6C0RUUlOHq1Ytj/mgln.ai/e/51/pdrl.fm/002dc3/traffic.megaphone.fm/TPG3483019910.mp3?updated=1774059453 - [Is the Electoral College the best way to elect a president? – with Allen Guelzo and Daniel Ziblatt](https://invisiblenetwork.ai/podcast/1642334178/585747d13208) (2024-03-12, 52 min): audio https://www.podtrac.com/pts/redirect.mp3/pdst.fm/e/tracking.swap.fm/track/tcQd6Q6C0RUUlOHq1Ytj/mgln.ai/e/51/pdrl.fm/002dc3/traffic.megaphone.fm/TPG9847999701.mp3?updated=1774059836 - [What is the Role of Traditional Media in a Presidential Election? – with Natalie Allison and Dan Balz](https://invisiblenetwork.ai/podcast/1642334178/5149f627f32a) (2024-02-27, 51 min): audio https://www.podtrac.com/pts/redirect.mp3/pdst.fm/e/tracking.swap.fm/track/tcQd6Q6C0RUUlOHq1Ytj/mgln.ai/e/51/pdrl.fm/002dc3/traffic.megaphone.fm/TPG8757122617.mp3?updated=1774059952 - [Can a Third-Party Candidate Succeed? – with Dan DiSalvo and Bill Galston](https://invisiblenetwork.ai/podcast/1642334178/a110d95004ef) (2024-02-13, 49 min): audio https://www.podtrac.com/pts/redirect.mp3/pdst.fm/e/tracking.swap.fm/track/tcQd6Q6C0RUUlOHq1Ytj/mgln.ai/e/51/pdrl.fm/002dc3/traffic.megaphone.fm/TPG3886462859.mp3?updated=1774194615 - [Is Our Primary System Working? – with Galen Druke and Jonah Goldberg](https://invisiblenetwork.ai/podcast/1642334178/16eddfb26c3e) (2024-01-30, 58 min): audio https://www.podtrac.com/pts/redirect.mp3/pdst.fm/e/tracking.swap.fm/track/tcQd6Q6C0RUUlOHq1Ytj/mgln.ai/e/51/pdrl.fm/002dc3/traffic.megaphone.fm/TPG7301538471.mp3?updated=1774194943 - [Phil & Bill Discuss Their Political Parties](https://invisiblenetwork.ai/podcast/1642334178/833582ed97b0) (2024-01-16, 36 min): audio https://www.podtrac.com/pts/redirect.mp3/pdst.fm/e/tracking.swap.fm/track/tcQd6Q6C0RUUlOHq1Ytj/mgln.ai/e/51/pdrl.fm/002dc3/traffic.megaphone.fm/TPG3341443841.mp3?updated=1774195308 - [Phil & Bill Talk Immigration Policy](https://invisiblenetwork.ai/podcast/1642334178/a6b635950053) (2023-12-19, 30 min): audio https://www.podtrac.com/pts/redirect.mp3/pdst.fm/e/tracking.swap.fm/track/tcQd6Q6C0RUUlOHq1Ytj/mgln.ai/e/51/pdrl.fm/002dc3/traffic.megaphone.fm/TPG6271941634.mp3?updated=1774195925 - [Carly Fiorina: On Running for President and Staying Engaged in our Democracy](https://invisiblenetwork.ai/podcast/1642334178/3d89bc0f5109) (2023-11-07, 46 min): audio https://www.podtrac.com/pts/redirect.mp3/pdst.fm/e/tracking.swap.fm/track/tcQd6Q6C0RUUlOHq1Ytj/mgln.ai/e/51/pdrl.fm/002dc3/traffic.megaphone.fm/TPG8102269947.mp3?updated=1774196347 - [Our Kids are Struggling. Who Can Help Them? – with Melissa Kearney and Richard Reeves](https://invisiblenetwork.ai/podcast/1642334178/f2185dfb2726) (2023-10-31, 55 min): audio https://www.podtrac.com/pts/redirect.mp3/pdst.fm/e/tracking.swap.fm/track/tcQd6Q6C0RUUlOHq1Ytj/mgln.ai/e/51/pdrl.fm/002dc3/traffic.megaphone.fm/TPG5349118138.mp3?updated=1774196859 - [Entrepreneurship: What it takes to be successful, and should government have a role? - with Sarah Bellos and Brad Smith](https://invisiblenetwork.ai/podcast/1642334178/21bf7a69f2b5) (2023-10-17, 49 min): audio https://www.podtrac.com/pts/redirect.mp3/pdst.fm/e/tracking.swap.fm/track/tcQd6Q6C0RUUlOHq1Ytj/mgln.ai/e/51/pdrl.fm/002dc3/traffic.megaphone.fm/TPG6599073046.mp3?updated=1774196861 - [Affirmative Action and College Admissions: What Happens Now? - with Sarah Isgur and Marie Bigham](https://invisiblenetwork.ai/podcast/1642334178/962ed09ab6b4) (2023-10-03, 51 min): audio https://www.podtrac.com/pts/redirect.mp3/pdst.fm/e/tracking.swap.fm/track/tcQd6Q6C0RUUlOHq1Ytj/mgln.ai/e/51/pdrl.fm/002dc3/traffic.megaphone.fm/TPG4747456040.mp3?updated=1774197183 - [How will AI Affect Democracy? - with Sarah Kreps and Bruce Schneier](https://invisiblenetwork.ai/podcast/1642334178/ff3422ecb6e3) (2023-09-19, 56 min): audio https://www.podtrac.com/pts/redirect.mp3/pdst.fm/e/tracking.swap.fm/track/tcQd6Q6C0RUUlOHq1Ytj/mgln.ai/e/51/pdrl.fm/002dc3/traffic.megaphone.fm/TPG9259703544.mp3?updated=1774197305 - [How Secure is Your Vote? – with Brad Raffensperger and Jocelyn Benson](https://invisiblenetwork.ai/podcast/1642334178/bad6b2a0b10f) (2023-09-05, 51 min): audio https://www.podtrac.com/pts/redirect.mp3/pdst.fm/e/tracking.swap.fm/track/tcQd6Q6C0RUUlOHq1Ytj/mgln.ai/e/51/pdrl.fm/002dc3/traffic.megaphone.fm/TPG2162369902.mp3?updated=1774197582 - [Why are there no more Walter Cronkites? - with Judy Woodruff and Chris Stirewalt](https://invisiblenetwork.ai/podcast/1642334178/771bc8b2d74b) (2023-07-18, 52 min): audio https://www.podtrac.com/pts/redirect.mp3/pdst.fm/e/tracking.swap.fm/track/tcQd6Q6C0RUUlOHq1Ytj/mgln.ai/e/51/pdrl.fm/002dc3/traffic.megaphone.fm/TPG5167469895.mp3?updated=1774198155 - [Do we need a democracy renovation? – with Danielle Allen](https://invisiblenetwork.ai/podcast/1642334178/efa5db61eca2) (2023-07-04, 40 min): audio https://www.podtrac.com/pts/redirect.mp3/pdst.fm/e/tracking.swap.fm/track/tcQd6Q6C0RUUlOHq1Ytj/mgln.ai/e/51/pdrl.fm/002dc3/traffic.megaphone.fm/TPG7485616035.mp3?updated=1774198330 Shows are listed from Apple Podcasts' charts and directory, and Podcast Index where it is used. 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