# Founder of Leaving Maga - Rich Logis

An episode of [The Necessary Conversation](https://invisiblenetwork.ai/podcast/1640311112), 17 Jun 2026, 1 h 01 min.

Audio: https://www.buzzsprout.com/2035895/episodes/19363868-founder-of-leaving-maga-rich-logis.mp3

Today we are honored to have a very special guest. The founder of LeavingMaga.org Rich Logis. Will he be able to find some common ground with Mary Lou and help her inch closer to leaving Maga herself, or will he push her back to Trump? https://leavingmaga.org/ If you have a question for anyone on the show, record it in a 1 minute or under audio or video clip and send it to: thenecessaryconversationpod@gmail.com

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