# G20 Summit: Will Xi & Putin's Absence At Delhi Meet Make Joint Communique Impossible?| Geeta's World, Ep 59

An episode of [Geeta's World](https://invisiblenetwork.ai/podcast/1635741757), 5 Sep 2023, 32 min.

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As India eagerly prepares to host the G20 summit this week, the notable absence of key leaders like Xi Jinping and Vladimir Putin has sparked intrigue and speculation regarding China's motivations for not attending. What could be its reason? G20 is a great spectacle, but the preparations for it have resulted in people’s displacement, with the poor fearing they are being erased. Shouldn't Delhi be able to accommodate events of this magnitude, while not causing these kinds of inconveniences to citizens?  Also, regarding China and Russia giving the summit a miss, Indian official sources, in its background brief, have said that “these dropouts do not reflect anything about the host country”. Is this assertion valid? Listen in! Produced by Anna Priyadarshini Sound Mix by Nitin Rawat

## Transcript

[0:00] This is India Today podcasts. As India eagerly prepares to host the G twenty
[0:10] summit this week in Delhi, the notable absence of key leaders like Shi Jinping
[0:15] and Vladimir Putin has parked intrigue and speculation. But what could be China's reasoning
[0:20] for not attending? Chi Jinping not coming is certainly personal in many ways.
[0:25] And why do I say that? Is because every step of the way,
[0:28] China has been working as an obstructionist. Also regarding China and Russia giving the
[0:33] summit a miss, Indian official sources have issued a background brief stating that these
[0:40] dropouts do not reflect anything about the host country. Do you agree with this
[0:46] assertion? On the Russia Ukraine War and Russia raising objections? The owners cannot
[0:52] lie on the host country and India because that's a country position that Russia has
[0:57] taken on a very specific issue that has to do with their own natural interests.
[1:04] Hello, I'm anna predessional with India Today TV's Foreign Affairs editor Geta Mohan,
[1:11] where with Geta's astute and incisive crasp of world affairs, we delve into
[1:15] all that is urgent and pressing in world politics and comprehend how these developments in
[1:22] other countries could shape India's global ambitions of being a Wishwa Guru. Let's untravel
[1:29] Geta's world. So to our listeners, I'll just tell you that this time
[1:36] we're just going to chat for as long as Geta wants, because I feel
[1:42] like very fortunate that she in this like hectic schedule, which is the run
[1:47] up to the summit. I mean, she's as busy as anyone can ever
[1:52] imagine. So everybody on my beaches. Anna, So we and I apologize
[1:59] to our listeners as we couldn't drop our podcast last week, but we're doing
[2:05] it with a lot of time constraint. But nonetheless, this is a very
[2:09] important issue because it has run up to the g twenty. So Anna,
[2:13] yeah, that is why, that is why I just wanted to talk about
[2:15] it, because there are many listeners who would want to know. So just
[2:21] a brief that, like everybody knows, that is scheduled. The summit is
[2:24] scheduled for to be held over two days, which is September nine and ten
[2:29] this week, and it will draw leaders and delegates from forty countries, including
[2:34] the twenty member states. But there are a few missing I mean like big
[2:38] names actually who are missing, which is Sijan thing, China's president and Russian
[2:42] President Vladimir Putin, who has already conveyed to Prime Minister Modi that he is
[2:46] decision to not attending the summit in person as he has to focus on some
[2:51] special military operation in Ukraine. So these would be some talking points in this
[2:58] episode, you know, to begin with, Gathar G twenty is a great
[3:01] spectacle, right, I don't think anyone who is an Indian or more precisely
[3:07] like who is in Delia delhiite would even dare to deny this. And you
[3:10] know, like there are big, big holdings that read like welcome D twenty
[3:15] delegates almost installed in every one kilometer, if I can say that. And
[3:20] besides this, we also had this news coming in that the NBMC has installed
[3:25] like life size cutouts of gray lungours to keep monkeys away from transit routes and
[3:32] venues. So these were the you know, interesting news that were coming in.
[3:38] But like, while it's great to see our city being degged up for
[3:43] this event, there's another side to it that I wanted to focus, which
[3:46] many citizens are also flagging that where you know, citizens. They have like
[3:52] cited discomforts and the poor especially they say that they were kind of erased,
[3:58] like on these three days, they're almost like three hundred train operations that are
[4:03] to be affected, like services of two hundred and seven trains have been terminated.
[4:09] Traffic restrictions have resulted in the cancelation of approximately one sixty domestic flights to
[4:15] and from Delis in the ra Gandhi International Airport. And there was also a
[4:20] report by the Concerned Citizens Collective, which is a group comprising individuals from diverse
[4:27] fields, who unveiled the comprehensive report that documented the harrowing testimonies of those affected
[4:34] by displacements for this beautifying of Deli ahead of G twenty the According to the
[4:41] findings, it said that the preparations for the j twenty summon have resulted in
[4:45] the displacement of estimated two point five to three lack people and in their Deli
[4:50] alone, nearly twenty five slums have been raised to the ground, including settlements
[4:56] in Yamunawang, etc. So I wanted to understand that, like you must
[5:01] have covered you know, G twenty summits in the past in other countries,
[5:05] have we actually witnessed a level of preparation similar to what we are seeing for
[5:11] the G twenty summit in Deli, that is, to some extent, is
[5:15] coming at the expense of citizens convenience, like in any of the nineteen countries
[5:18] that we that have held its presidency, because well, it's definitely important for
[5:24] India to put on a great show, make sure that everything is flawless.
[5:27] Don't you think that as India's capital city, Delhi should be able to accommodate
[5:32] events of this magnitude while not causing these kinds of inconveniences to its citizens.
[5:40] Well, and a lot of aspects of G twenty preparations you have encapsulated,
[5:48] Yes, the inconvenience being one, But look at the countries that have had
[5:54] summit level meetings there. They're mostly the developed countries some but in Mexico,
[6:04] Turkey again as a European, more more developed nation. Then if you look
[6:10] at a list in the recent past, it's been Indonesia, and before that,
[6:16] and before that there was there were mostly quite economically advanced nations, barring
[6:25] maybe Mexico and Argentina. But in terms of how those countries also are their
[6:34] capital city is very different from our capital city in terms of infrastructure in Dahlia
[6:40] and now we are still a long way to go to really look like a
[6:43] developed nation or our nation that is one of the biggest emerging economies. We
[6:48] have settlements, we have illegal settlements, we have the road infrastructures in the
[6:55] shambles. So there was a lot in terms of challenges for India. Indonesian
[7:00] here's another country, developing country that hosted it, but they hosted it not
[7:02] in the capital city of Jakarta. They hosted it in then the tourist city
[7:08] of Bali, which made it very easy for them because one they shut the
[7:14] entire city down and there were so many hotels within close proximity for the leadership
[7:20] to stay and travel was very convenient over here because of the lack of four
[7:28] star five star level hotels for all the delegation within the premises of central Delmi.
[7:33] The entire G twenty has been organized between from Gurgau till Noida, which
[7:44] means including surach Fun. You know, some of the hotels for the delegation
[7:47] are booked in surich Fund Greater Noida, far flung areas of Burgau. So
[7:53] anything about four start to five star level hotels have were booked by the m
[7:59] EA much in advance, a year in advance for these dates this entire week.
[8:05] That's the logistical nightmare that the Indian administration has had to deal with.
[8:09] So the challenges are many. Yes, there is inconvenience, but the fact
[8:13] that there was fortunately a holiday on the seventh. The eighth has been declared
[8:20] a holiday ninth tenth of weekends makes it a little easier. And like most
[8:24] of the officials we've been interviewing have been saying, go out for a holiday,
[8:30] leave the city for a bit, is the advice, because yes,
[8:33] the city will be in partial lockdown. While the rain roads will be open,
[8:39] offices are shut, schools are shut. All those who can work from
[8:43] home might not travel out. Even private companies where essentially they don't require people
[8:48] to come in, have asked their people to stay at home and quite a
[8:52] few of them are shutting. Not like you and I, we are in
[8:56] the twenty first seven business we are we're actually termed essential as our hospitals,
[9:01] and during COVID we knew that view essential services. So we are open and
[9:07] for our staff to be able to reach the offices. The Ring Road areas,
[9:13] and quite a few of the areas that are not that were delegations are
[9:18] not staying as such will be open. But yes, the city would be
[9:24] inconvenienced, but not every time. And I do we see a summit being
[9:33] organized in India of such magnitude. And no matter which city were in India,
[9:39] the logistics would have been a nightmare. Getting these many hotels would have
[9:43] been a nightmare. There isn't a single city, even go Off for that
[9:48] matter, does not have so many five star hotels to accommodate forty delegations,
[9:54] so on and so forth, which is why we streshed from gurga to from
[9:58] to Great Noida. So it's a massive expanse of hotels that have been booked.
[10:07] And I yes, in terms of trying to ensure that monkey menace is
[10:11] not visible, that India does not look. The image of India that they
[10:16] take back is not one where you have where you have dirt, where you
[10:20] have slams. That might be the case, but anna somewhere a little bit
[10:24] of honesty also would have worked, like we do know that. And it's
[10:28] a problem. It's a heartbreaking problem to see beggars in the streets of India,
[10:31] particularly in Delhi, where you have children still begging. How is that
[10:37] allowed in a country where where education up till fourteen years is fundamental. Right,
[10:43] we still see children on the streets, in the streets of Delhi begging
[10:48] on the roads. They will not be visible. You will not see the
[10:52] transgender community who actually also you know, are there in the cross roads giving
[11:01] blessings and in return asking for some you know, arms or whatever, so
[11:07] that you will not see. So, yes, a lot of real India
[11:11] will not be visible, but a lot of what India intends to be will
[11:18] be visible. So whilst I say this to my administration, not that they
[11:22] should be showing beggary, they should be showing all this. I'm just saying
[11:26] that, you know, even after g twenty, our children should not be
[11:31] in the roads. Actually, I mean that's a really nice messaging. Although
[11:35] I mean that's why I asked this question, because you know, there's a
[11:39] lot of confusion. I mean, there's like, on one hand you want
[11:41] to appreciate, but on the other there's a dark side that also needs to
[11:46] be highlighted. But yes, like you said, I mean there should be
[11:50] some balancing the real India that should be seen. But having said that,
[11:54] now coming to the summit itself, you know, there are a lot many
[11:58] things. Of course China and Russia or attending is the factor. But before
[12:03] that, you know, what really caught my attention, Geta, is that
[12:07] Indian official sources they have issued like a comprehensive background brief addressing the issue,
[12:16] this issue of leaders skipping the G twenty summit and the Indian government. In
[12:22] the brief, they they have stated that it's not the first time countries have
[12:26] chosen to skip these summits and despite their being no major geopolitical or health reason
[12:35] to skip it. The highest number of leaders ever skipped a G twenty summit
[12:39] wasn't twenty twenty one, but this was still the pandemic year, you know,
[12:43] the first in person G twenty summit in two years at that point in
[12:48] twenty twenty one. But this time around, you know, there were hopes
[12:50] to bring Russia, China and Ukraine, like it's not a G twenty member,
[12:56] but could have been a special invitee to bring them to the tape and
[13:00] like discuss the pressing issues, which is of course by and large, Russia
[13:03] U Crane conflict, global food prices, and so on. But you know,
[13:07] in the briefing they also mentioned like in government has also mentioned in its
[13:11] defense that these dropouts they do not reflect anything about the host country. I
[13:18] want to know from you that do you agree with this kind of assertion that
[13:22] if this doesn't reflect these dropouts doesn't reflect on the host country, then why
[13:30] this kind of spectacle like this is the same government geta that earlier, you
[13:33] know, made such a big deal about the fact that India the Wishwa Guru
[13:37] is hosting the G twenty and which we have also discussed in our earlier episodes
[13:43] that nothing to kind of boast about because it had to happen kind of rotational.
[13:46] So now if countries such as Russia and China are giving this meeting a
[13:52] skip and China is skipping it even though Moody Energy they recently met at the
[13:56] Brick Summit and also met at the G twenties went at last year in Bali,
[14:01] is that a cause for concern for Indian diplomacy. India's briefing on this
[14:05] issue makes a good case about leaders having other commitments and choosing not to attend
[14:11] for various reasons. But what do the murmurs exactly like tell you and what
[14:16] are the reporters sensing could be the reason for she Jinping not attending, Well,
[14:20] it is certainly to do with the bilateral relations at their their worst,
[14:26] and it's it's not despite the meeting. It might be most probably because when
[14:31] they met at the Bricks on the sidelines of the Brick summit, most probably
[14:37] the vibes over there were we're not right. Look at the differing statements where
[14:43] China, in an unprecedented manner said that well, this is coming at the
[14:48] behest of the Indian Prime minister, and then the Indian government sources had to
[14:54] put out that, well, the formal bilateral meeting was sought by the Chinese
[14:58] side. Well, they might not have gone through with it because either India's
[15:03] snubbed China by not giving a bilateral and giving an informal meeting, or it
[15:09] could be that China did not follow up on the bilateral request because they did
[15:11] not want. One hand, Prime Minister Moody went and made the effort of
[15:16] just having this slight, small informal chat so the border issue is discussed,
[15:22] but also an effort you have to give it to the man, an effort
[15:26] to ensure that he comes for the G twenty and despite that, what you're
[15:31] seeing is renaming and the new edition of the maps being issued. We're seeing
[15:37] more border infrastructure coming up. It certainly seems like China's intent is not to
[15:43] resolve the problems, but certainly to inner way embarrassed India, but also to
[15:50] corner India. And why do I say that? And it's not just about
[15:54] China's president not coming. China is representing itself at the two twenty. Will
[15:58] the change the premise is going to come. Our summit level meeting is either
[16:03] heads of government or heads of state. In many countries, such as India,
[16:07] head of state does not go. It's the head of government. It's
[16:08] a prime ministerial representation. In presidential forms, the president heads of state go
[16:15] and heads of governments do not go. But it's either all In China,
[16:21] the head of state is not coming, but head of government, which is
[16:23] primarily change is coming. So representation certainly is at a very high level,
[16:29] at the highest level, just below She Chimping. So what's my reading of
[16:36] Chi Chimping not coming. There is no particular reason he has been traveling now
[16:41] since he took office. This is only the second time that sheet Chimping is
[16:45] not attending at twenty summit a physical one, the last one being the Italy
[16:49] Summit, and that was in twenty twenty one, and that was because there
[16:52] were extreme pubs and restrictions within China with isolation. Otherwise otherwise he would have
[17:02] turned up. So President put In not coming is because of genuine war reasons.
[17:07] He would not want to embarrass his friend Moody. But cheat and not
[17:12] coming is certainly personal in many ways. And why do I say that is
[17:18] because every step of the way China has been working as an obstructionist. Look
[17:22] at all the meetings. It's not just about raising concerns on geopolitical issues and
[17:26] the paragraphs in Russia, Ukraine war in the Chots communicate. It's also about
[17:32] not allowing terms like any India initiative or proposal rust become Millets, India women
[17:40] led Development, many such proposals that India put. China has raised projections to
[17:45] one way or the other from us. They put him become They said,
[17:48] this language is not a Uan language, sunstluence is not, So why do
[17:51] we have this? Why can't you just use English, which is one world,
[17:55] one or one family, one future now they're using that. The other
[17:59] thing, they're trying to make it look like, why do you need a
[18:03] milit proposal India Women led development? They said this, SDGs already have a
[18:07] term for that aspect. Why can't you just use SDG goals, the Sustainable
[18:14] Development goals terminology. Why are you coming up in newer things? So on
[18:18] many fronts, China is creating obstacles and if India wants and should India want
[18:26] a consensus document, they will have to give it on quite a few of
[18:29] these, on many others. Amatapkans in an interview to US, said that
[18:33] the Shippa meeting which is underway as we speak in the in Haryana and in
[18:40] the infamous snoo of Haryana where the riots took place. The meetings are taking
[18:45] place now, the Shapa meetings, and he's hopeful that they'd be able to
[18:48] convince the Chinese. But with the decision by she HIPing, with the harsh
[18:52] stand that China has taken on many fronts, with Russia not backing down on
[18:57] giving up on those two paragraph switched. By the way, we're part of
[19:00] the Baldy Declaration exactly. Yeah, now they're saying the circumstances have changed and
[19:06] we don't want that. Back then it was different. We wanted to show
[19:10] consensus, but now things have moved forward and we don't want that paragraphic.
[19:15] Yeah, the sanctions. Yeah, the sanctions also need to be included.
[19:18] That's what treasure for India. The biggest challenge is going to be getting a
[19:22] consensus document part of mainly obstructing. Yeah, but is it now possible to
[19:30] have like because last time I remember when we were discussing about joint communication of
[19:33] the twenty ministerial meetings have yelled one. But you know, you said that
[19:40] no matter what, because it's sort of an election near ahead as well for
[19:44] Prime Minster Moly here in India, So like there would be some sort of
[19:48] subtractions and additions as to from Russia's side, from China's side, to the
[19:53] declarations, I mean to the ballet paragraphs that were included. So you said
[19:59] that, you know, no matter what, because there's an election year as
[20:02] well. So there will be a consensus and there will be a joint declaration
[20:07] that will be released. But now with Russian and China not coming exactly,
[20:11] so how is that there's going to fare them? So I'm with that cons
[20:15] in a very interesting response to this very same question, because I said,
[20:18] you guys were very convinced that there will be joint communicate. What happened you?
[20:22] Are you confident or not? So I'm with that concept there will be
[20:26] a joint communicate. I can assure you that there's going to be joint communicate
[20:30] on all things development. Then I asked him, but what does that mean?
[20:34] There still means that if there's a CHAIRS summary along with the joint communicative,
[20:40] there's a CHAIRS summary which has parts that are not with consensus, paragraphs
[20:45] that do not find consensus, which means it is not a consensus document.
[20:49] He said, I don't care about Russia. You've involves not our creation,
[20:53] and I don't care about that, and I don't care about the other things.
[20:56] I only know one thing. But there will be joint community, ok,
[21:00] on development. See this is changing the language of how people should view
[21:04] it. The fact of the matter is that if there's a joint community or
[21:08] an outcome document with CHAIRS summary, it will be considered a document without consensus,
[21:15] because otherwise you will just have a plain Delhi Declaration, which would be
[21:18] the Joint Communicate without Chairs summary or footnote which means that it is a complete
[21:23] consensus document. So if there's consensus on development, good great, But it
[21:29] certainly it does not mean that it's a consensus document. Okay, Now it's
[21:33] clear when you said, when I said that these dropouts do not I mean
[21:37] the Indian government has claimed that does not reflect on the host country. Do
[21:41] you agree with this assertion that it really does not reflect on the host country?
[21:47] See on this, I will have to say that on the Russia Ukraine
[21:49] war and Russia raising objections, it cannot be the owners cannot lie on the
[21:56] host country in India because that's a country position that Russia has taken on a
[22:02] very specific issue that has to do with their own national agenda, agenda,
[22:07] national interests. You would ask me, then, how did they agree in
[22:10] Bali. They agreed in Bali because it was very close to the war that
[22:15] had that had broken out, and they wanted they did not want to look
[22:19] like they're an aggressor. Russia's example, Russia's explanation back then was that yes,
[22:26] it is not an era of war, but it is not an era
[22:29] of war for all sides. They should also not be provoking US and Ukraine
[22:33] also should understand that we are protecting our own interests. It's not like we
[22:37] want to have war and animosity with Ukraine, but just that if you go
[22:41] to NATO, you are bringing trouble in our backyard. So, which is
[22:45] what any Western country also does or has done in the past, particularly the
[22:51] United States of America. Cuban Missile crisis is one such example. But the
[22:56] things changed over the year when they realize that this is not an era of
[22:59] war. Was being used by the West against Russia more than Russia trying to
[23:04] use it as saying that no, this is for everybody. This messaging was
[23:08] not just for us. So they failed in putting that messaging out the Ukraine
[23:14] and the West one in leading that narrative of the culture being Russia. So
[23:19] right now it doesn't suit them to have these paragraphs in the two paragraphs that
[23:26] Russia is objected to. China, on the other hand, is objecting to
[23:30] things which have to do with and the owners would lie on India because because
[23:34] relations between the two countries are at their lowest, China is trying to arm
[23:40] fist India into getting a deal on the broader it seems like that and India
[23:45] is not relenting, which is a good thing in their own national interests,
[23:48] but at the cost of yes, maybe a consensus document. So there is
[23:53] a problem when it comes to the host countries relations with the other country that
[23:59] is raising a sections in this case India and China. Okay, And like
[24:03] finally, I just wanted to address this one last point, which is to
[24:08] talk about climate emergency, you know, because these leaders are meeting in Delhi,
[24:14] unless we forget the record monsoon rains triggered flooding here that sort of killed
[24:21] you know, more than a hundred people in northern India and this places thousands
[24:23] and inundated large parts of capital. It's the remnants are still seen here.
[24:29] The Associated Press actually has done a brilliant story on this, and I was
[24:32] reading that that said that despite cyclones, you know, extreme rains, land
[24:37] slice, extreme heat affecting India and the rest of the world in the last
[24:41] few months, climate ministers of the G twenty nations ended their last meeting for
[24:47] the year in July without resolving major disagreements on climate emergency, and experts say
[24:53] that like one reason the talks among climate ministers haven't produced concrete results is that
[25:00] the decisions necessary are bigger than those ministers can take. So I want to
[25:07] know from you that do you really think that this time Prime Minister Modi will
[25:11] be able to kind of like step up as a global leader and enable the
[25:15] J twenty's top leaders, you know, to send a strong message on climate
[25:22] action. You know that like that they will be able to come out with
[25:25] an ambitious agenda this time that can not only show that the J twenty can
[25:30] act, but will also bolster confidence going into these like global climate meetings in
[25:36] December this year. Well, this is a very interesting question because here the
[25:42] voice of the global South will matter. Prime Minister Modi, if you look
[25:45] at the invitations that have been sent, has focused on the global South.
[25:52] Over here there is a huge divide between the West and the global South where
[25:56] climate change is concerned and how the zero carbon emissions by, when it should
[26:03] be done, who should do more, who should do less? And on
[26:07] this front, yes, China has created had created impediments even on the climate
[26:12] conversations. But anna on this front, I have to say that China and
[26:17] India are quite on the same page as opposed to the West when it comes
[26:22] to how they see climate change and the battle the West says, well,
[26:27] it is an emergency situation and everybody should do their bit. And Global South,
[26:33] particularly the developing nations who have had a late start in industrialization, are
[26:38] saying that, well, you have had a head start, you take a
[26:41] break, you do more, give us time to develop, otherwise we will
[26:45] never be able to reach your level. So that's that's the main crux of
[26:51] what is happening over here. I do see that there will be consensus in
[26:56] terms of a dock in the document where how should be headed and what the
[27:02] fight means will be spelled out clearly. If they start putting out years and
[27:07] dates and numbers, then they get into trouble. So let's see what the
[27:12] consensus would look like on climate. But it is going to be very interesting
[27:18] to see how the Global South will be projected by India. India's major agenda
[27:22] this time around. If you see the themes, because China's already objected to
[27:26] us, they were become there is a very smart way by which India's projecting
[27:32] us they were ut became the On the ninth, the entire session will begin.
[27:37] The G twenty summit will begin with ceremonial reception followed by the first session,
[27:44] which is the first term of us they've become in English, run Earth.
[27:49] That'll go into working lunch. Then there'll be time for bilateral followed by
[27:53] the second session, which is the second phase of us they've become, which
[27:59] is one family, and then it will be followed by a gala dinner.
[28:03] On the next day, the leaders will go to Rajkat will come back and
[28:08] to the third and concluding session, which is called the final term of us
[28:12] they've put to become, which is one family. So they have actually named
[28:18] the sessions as us they've put to become one Earth, one family, one
[28:23] future. And then the entire g twenty summit will conclude with the ceremonial symbolic
[28:30] handover of the presidency to Brazil. It is symbolic because the Indian presidency does
[28:37] not end till November. On December first, Brazil takes over, but because
[28:44] the summits happen around September, which is why you will see a symbolic handover.
[28:49] And what we're looking at is at the gala dinner. One interesting aspect
[28:53] ana before I before we end the conversation, a controversy is already erupted.
[29:00] There are many a controversy when it comes to the detailed the summit. But
[29:04] this is a fresh one where the gala dinner invitations that have gone to various
[29:11] chief ministers and heads of delegation, foreign head of state, heads of government
[29:15] sell from President Murmo's office, says President of Republic of Paratra than Republic of
[29:25] India. Yeah, So whiles to we deal with this contract, the legwork
[29:33] and the and the and the preparations for the summit are absolutely almost near complete.
[29:42] Rehearsals are over, so the officials know exactly what they need to do,
[29:48] where they're going to be. It's going to be an exciting one.
[29:51] Exciting in all respects, not just in terms of what the deliverables would be,
[29:56] but all the challenges that come their way in a in even getting a
[30:00] consensus document. This is going to be a rare u D twenty summit,
[30:07] one that that the kind that has never been done before. Given that you
[30:11] know the India involved two hundred meetings, fifty cities. They showed the length
[30:17] and breadth of India, the culture, tradition, all that would be in
[30:21] display at the bar undercom in Preda. But there's also going to be a
[30:26] lot of questions. No consensus document would mean that is, you know,
[30:33] a lot of fodder for the opposition against the government, and the government would
[30:37] have to handle that. The fact that invitations have gone as harder than not
[30:42] India both are official names of India certainly shows maybe how in the administration and
[30:52] the party particularly is looking at the at the opposition alliance and not wanting to
[30:57] use the word. But the fact is that it is the name of our
[31:00] country and our citizens. Degree are people stakeholders in deciding whether they should be
[31:07] allowed to call the country India and has or hares and not not do this
[31:14] just to just because there are there's politics involved that that makes it very unfortunately.
[31:18] Yeah, the political dawning is quite of concerning. But I think we'll
[31:23] end this episode here otherwise if I add more one more question, Gata will
[31:29] be like, So, I just hope that next time we come, when
[31:33] the summit is has like ended, we might talk on the outcomes on the
[31:40] deliverables. Oh yes, yeah, and all that will transpire in those two
[31:45] hectic days. Yes, so thank you so much, Gaita. I hope
[31:49] the listeners would have found us really helpful just ahead of the summit and You
[31:56] can also like listen to the episode while you enjoy the holy that is just
[32:00] coming your way up. So thanks guitar, I'll see you soon. Thank
[32:05] you. H

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