# 04 Spies in the Outback | The spy who loved Alice

An episode of [Expanse](https://invisiblenetwork.ai/podcast/1635088231), 7 May 2024, 30 min.

Audio: https://mediacore-live-production.akamaized.net/audio/01/td/Z/2m.mp3

The Cold War has finally ended but Pine Gap, or ‘The Base’ as it’s become known, is expanding and it’s getting involved in conflicts across the world. Host Alex Barwick finally goes inside Pine Gap and meets a spy who has spent years working within the perimeter.

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