# やさしい民俗学

A podcast by 岸澤美希（民俗学研究者）. 民俗学研究者の岸澤が、身近な物事から「民俗学」をやさしく紹介するポッドキャストです。 民俗学は“私たちはどう暮らしてきたか？”を知る学問です。学校では習わない歴史学です。 過去を知ると、今の日常がまた違って見えてきます。 そして、過去を知ることは、これからの未来を考える大切な一歩。さぁ、一緒に知ってみませんか？ 【ご報告】淡交社さまより書籍化していただきました‼️ 『やさしい民俗学』https://amzn.asia/d/71kIvhI ぜひ、音声とともにお楽しみ下さい。 ーーーーーーーー リスナーのご感想、行事や暮らしの体験談もお待ちしています！ 皆さんの情報が大切な民俗資料になります。 こちらのリンクよりお送りください。 https://forms.gle/K7MPccTxjecqVUJU8 ーーーーーーーー 岸澤美希｜民俗学研究者 は、Twitterに生息しています👉 @tanukiink

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## Latest episodes

- [#78 おせち② 頭を柔らかくして「おせち」を考えてみる。年越し膳とハガタメを食べていた頃](https://invisiblenetwork.ai/podcast/1633816184/0a11d607b73b) (2026-01-03, 22 min): audio https://anchor.fm/s/9ec2ecac/podcast/play/113397168/https%3A%2F%2Fd3ctxlq1ktw2nl.cloudfront.net%2Fstaging%2F2026-0-2%2F1e00036d-cbba-d3da-b1fc-46f0f2b30516.mp3
- [#77 おせち① 重詰の「おせち」はいつできた？](https://invisiblenetwork.ai/podcast/1633816184/96661a35f202) (2026-01-01, 20 min): audio https://anchor.fm/s/9ec2ecac/podcast/play/113365844/https%3A%2F%2Fd3ctxlq1ktw2nl.cloudfront.net%2Fstaging%2F2026-0-1%2F2bd3e216-6b73-c213-2016-0dad1dd5dd55.mp3
- [#76 2025年振り返り② 『民俗学で考える』と『やさしい民俗学』に込めた思い](https://invisiblenetwork.ai/podcast/1633816184/b0fff6b8429c) (2025-12-31, 17 min): audio https://anchor.fm/s/9ec2ecac/podcast/play/113326199/https%3A%2F%2Fd3ctxlq1ktw2nl.cloudfront.net%2Fstaging%2F2025-11-31%2Fdf6ef7fc-dcc1-c83c-64bf-9291ca7402dd.mp3
- [#75 2025年振り返り① 出版・調査・大学院と盛りだくさんな1年でした！](https://invisiblenetwork.ai/podcast/1633816184/98479d322fb0) (2025-12-31, 27 min): audio https://anchor.fm/s/9ec2ecac/podcast/play/113324242/https%3A%2F%2Fd3ctxlq1ktw2nl.cloudfront.net%2Fstaging%2F2025-11-31%2Fd67fc8c4-23cf-53c0-01e9-c10c11d50229.mp3
- [#74 宮崎県椎葉村の調査回③ 地域の祭りを継承する仕組みと思い【ゲスト：椎葉民俗芸能博物館 学芸員 森内こゆきさん】](https://invisiblenetwork.ai/podcast/1633816184/5d94182da445) (2025-09-27, 34 min): audio https://anchor.fm/s/9ec2ecac/podcast/play/108877474/https%3A%2F%2Fd3ctxlq1ktw2nl.cloudfront.net%2Fstaging%2F2025-8-27%2Ff2340301-064b-36a2-e133-ebcbdf09ce85.mp3
- [#73 宮崎県椎葉村の調査回② 十根川集落のこと・神楽って何？【ゲスト：椎葉民俗芸能博物館 学芸員 森内こゆきさん】](https://invisiblenetwork.ai/podcast/1633816184/6cb2f5799882) (2025-09-21, 28 min): audio https://anchor.fm/s/9ec2ecac/podcast/play/108623227/https%3A%2F%2Fd3ctxlq1ktw2nl.cloudfront.net%2Fstaging%2F2025-8-21%2Fa5f01f0b-f4cd-61a4-1ba1-cac2d7581680.mp3
- [#72 宮崎県椎葉村の調査回① 柳田國男も訪れた椎葉村ってどんなところ？【ゲスト：椎葉民俗芸能博物館 学芸員 森内こゆきさん】](https://invisiblenetwork.ai/podcast/1633816184/bba26d5327b5) (2025-09-11, 38 min): audio https://anchor.fm/s/9ec2ecac/podcast/play/108149667/https%3A%2F%2Fd3ctxlq1ktw2nl.cloudfront.net%2Fstaging%2F2025-8-11%2F1667e6a0-1044-70bb-e9e4-a2065969fa20.mp3
- [#71 機械化で稲作は楽になったのか？ 変わったことと変わらないこと](https://invisiblenetwork.ai/podcast/1633816184/978e4c0b9efc) (2025-03-30, 22 min): audio https://anchor.fm/s/9ec2ecac/podcast/play/100568952/https%3A%2F%2Fd3ctxlq1ktw2nl.cloudfront.net%2Fstaging%2F2025-2-30%2Fea91399a-f876-9153-2def-0f9810daf1ba.mp3
- [#70 稲作経験70年のおじいさんに聞いた作業の変化](https://invisiblenetwork.ai/podcast/1633816184/d1e568850759) (2025-03-17, 19 min): audio https://anchor.fm/s/9ec2ecac/podcast/play/99952019/https%3A%2F%2Fd3ctxlq1ktw2nl.cloudfront.net%2Fstaging%2F2025-2-17%2Fad93182d-379b-3570-3a84-7de149bd5a49.mp3
- [#69 稲作がほぼ人力だった頃。90代の祖母に稲作経験を聞き書き](https://invisiblenetwork.ai/podcast/1633816184/b7cf26fc1aaa) (2025-02-10, 22 min): audio https://anchor.fm/s/9ec2ecac/podcast/play/98264484/https%3A%2F%2Fd3ctxlq1ktw2nl.cloudfront.net%2Fstaging%2F2025-1-10%2F8146757c-6c5d-e8ee-8fb6-8bf2a0aa9a3d.mp3
- [#68 雑談 地球資源は無尽蔵か有限か？ ブータン王国とアメリカ合衆国のトップを見て思ったこと](https://invisiblenetwork.ai/podcast/1633816184/7824b322404b) (2025-01-25, 25 min): audio https://anchor.fm/s/9ec2ecac/podcast/play/97550888/https%3A%2F%2Fd3ctxlq1ktw2nl.cloudfront.net%2Fstaging%2F2025-0-25%2Fa9190216-a4a7-37a4-b3ce-f255693863e7.mp3
- [#67 雑談 ポッドキャストウィークエンドや学会発表や民具や椎葉村のこと](https://invisiblenetwork.ai/podcast/1633816184/1b76435e4848) (2024-10-30, 36 min): audio https://anchor.fm/s/9ec2ecac/podcast/play/93725831/https%3A%2F%2Fd3ctxlq1ktw2nl.cloudfront.net%2Fstaging%2F2024-9-30%2F105e90c8-1591-b2c0-ffb4-b768b5457917.mp3
- [#66 雑談 浴衣から始める着物。粋に着るには"たくさん見る"こと？](https://invisiblenetwork.ai/podcast/1633816184/22c4ed5ed4ba) (2024-08-10, 33 min): audio https://anchor.fm/s/9ec2ecac/podcast/play/90268467/https%3A%2F%2Fd3ctxlq1ktw2nl.cloudfront.net%2Fstaging%2F2024-7-10%2F8967b113-6c35-ac13-6d8f-02352d022673.mp3
- [#65 着物⑥ 着物のルールはいつできた？ 戦後の着物史](https://invisiblenetwork.ai/podcast/1633816184/1c47ab8c0bd4) (2024-07-28, 21 min): audio https://anchor.fm/s/9ec2ecac/podcast/play/89756482/https%3A%2F%2Fd3ctxlq1ktw2nl.cloudfront.net%2Fstaging%2F2024-6-28%2F029d09a3-942f-ed09-b1b9-858c7e3e498e.mp3
- [#64 着物⑤ 働く時に何を着ていた？ 労働着・仕事着も「着物」](https://invisiblenetwork.ai/podcast/1633816184/c4e03e8e27d8) (2024-07-23, 18 min): audio https://anchor.fm/s/9ec2ecac/podcast/play/89554134/https%3A%2F%2Fd3ctxlq1ktw2nl.cloudfront.net%2Fstaging%2F2024-6-23%2Fe08f6697-0d8f-ec12-f9d4-5269c735204e.mp3
- [#63 着物④ お母さんが洗濯をするのはなぜ？ “衣生活の担当者”という伝承](https://invisiblenetwork.ai/podcast/1633816184/d30bf9830d9a) (2024-07-14, 23 min): audio https://anchor.fm/s/9ec2ecac/podcast/play/89195637/https%3A%2F%2Fd3ctxlq1ktw2nl.cloudfront.net%2Fstaging%2F2024-6-14%2F566d3766-405b-47f8-6ebb-c08a5fbabaa2.mp3
- [#62 着物③ 庶民の着物はどんな素材？ 麻から木綿へ](https://invisiblenetwork.ai/podcast/1633816184/17399810f705) (2024-07-06, 15 min): audio https://anchor.fm/s/9ec2ecac/podcast/play/88903142/https%3A%2F%2Fd3ctxlq1ktw2nl.cloudfront.net%2Fstaging%2F2024-6-6%2F9c936777-0fd0-c08e-c74e-dc533561794f.mp3
- [#61 着物② 『犬夜叉』で戦国時代の小袖について考えてみる](https://invisiblenetwork.ai/podcast/1633816184/ac64247e6ac1) (2024-07-01, 12 min): audio https://anchor.fm/s/9ec2ecac/podcast/play/88694429/https%3A%2F%2Fd3ctxlq1ktw2nl.cloudfront.net%2Fstaging%2F2024-6-1%2F96aa3db0-e693-92ea-f231-82c07bf5dd44.mp3
- [#60 着物① 私たちの考える着物が“インナー”だった頃](https://invisiblenetwork.ai/podcast/1633816184/9944e91ee59d) (2024-04-01, 28 min): audio https://anchor.fm/s/9ec2ecac/podcast/play/84795551/https%3A%2F%2Fd3ctxlq1ktw2nl.cloudfront.net%2Fstaging%2F2024-3-1%2F5479d189-859f-dc7b-3a2c-dcaf7cf9bb08.mp3
- [#59 義理で投票先を決めてしまった日本人（「史学と世相解説」を読む後編）](https://invisiblenetwork.ai/podcast/1633816184/d91c1bb8b1f9) (2024-03-24, 28 min): audio https://anchor.fm/s/9ec2ecac/podcast/play/84467815/https%3A%2F%2Fd3ctxlq1ktw2nl.cloudfront.net%2Fstaging%2F2024-2-24%2F67c96af2-c23d-3243-22cd-b1834820997f.mp3
- [#58 民俗学を「国史」と説いた柳田國男（「史学と世相解説」を読む前編）](https://invisiblenetwork.ai/podcast/1633816184/1e0a1656ab46) (2024-03-18, 15 min): audio https://anchor.fm/s/9ec2ecac/podcast/play/84149879/https%3A%2F%2Fd3ctxlq1ktw2nl.cloudfront.net%2Fstaging%2F2024-2-17%2Fcb14b491-49e4-d453-abb0-4057dc396e64.mp3
- [#57 雑談 地域でつながるということ。CCC（Cleanup&CoffeeClub）について](https://invisiblenetwork.ai/podcast/1633816184/37c338ee9890) (2024-03-09, 23 min): audio https://anchor.fm/s/9ec2ecac/podcast/play/83783627/https%3A%2F%2Fd3ctxlq1ktw2nl.cloudfront.net%2Fstaging%2F2024-2-9%2F14675b21-d53b-4313-89b0-2c0ca87f9666.mp3
- [#コメント10 肉まんにカラシつける？ お葬式でホウキを使う？](https://invisiblenetwork.ai/podcast/1633816184/78fd9c77497f) (2024-02-17, 35 min): audio https://anchor.fm/s/9ec2ecac/podcast/play/82802545/https%3A%2F%2Fd3ctxlq1ktw2nl.cloudfront.net%2Fstaging%2F2024-1-17%2F367781310-44100-2-9be20cd8012ae.m4a
- [#コメント09 暮らす場所によって当たり前はこんなにも違う！](https://invisiblenetwork.ai/podcast/1633816184/47a17f788796) (2024-02-12, 54 min): audio https://anchor.fm/s/9ec2ecac/podcast/play/82557600/https%3A%2F%2Fd3ctxlq1ktw2nl.cloudfront.net%2Fstaging%2F2024-1-12%2F367161110-44100-2-437c02bef48dc.m4a
- [#コメント08 臭すぎるお爺さんの話とか、山川で生きる人の知恵とか](https://invisiblenetwork.ai/podcast/1633816184/f3c057099a14) (2024-02-03, 38 min): audio https://anchor.fm/s/9ec2ecac/podcast/play/82181415/https%3A%2F%2Fd3ctxlq1ktw2nl.cloudfront.net%2Fstaging%2F2024-1-3%2F366090297-44100-2-488d60894f44e.m4a
- [#56 七草粥ってなぜ食べる？ 1月7日の人日（じんじつ）の伝承](https://invisiblenetwork.ai/podcast/1633816184/03e25ed66c6a) (2024-01-08, 17 min): audio https://anchor.fm/s/9ec2ecac/podcast/play/80959553/https%3A%2F%2Fd3ctxlq1ktw2nl.cloudfront.net%2Fstaging%2F2024-0-8%2F5732b304-024e-6cd5-de86-e74383cdda18.mp3
- [#55 お雑煮③ その味付けは静かに変わっている？](https://invisiblenetwork.ai/podcast/1633816184/f923a04a2007) (2024-01-08, 27 min): audio https://anchor.fm/s/9ec2ecac/podcast/play/80956693/https%3A%2F%2Fd3ctxlq1ktw2nl.cloudfront.net%2Fstaging%2F2024-0-8%2Ffac57a95-4b74-67bc-a526-06236ed079fc.mp3
- [#54 お雑煮② 味噌味か醤油味か？ 特徴的な分布について考える](https://invisiblenetwork.ai/podcast/1633816184/61b0f5d56dba) (2024-01-03, 24 min): audio https://anchor.fm/s/9ec2ecac/podcast/play/80745703/https%3A%2F%2Fd3ctxlq1ktw2nl.cloudfront.net%2Fstaging%2F2024-0-3%2Fa166db76-7587-9ad2-c63c-52ea0cc8e62f.mp3
- [#53 お雑煮① 昔は神様へのお供物で作っていた？](https://invisiblenetwork.ai/podcast/1633816184/fe37e911ac84) (2023-12-31, 21 min): audio https://anchor.fm/s/9ec2ecac/podcast/play/80645305/https%3A%2F%2Fd3ctxlq1ktw2nl.cloudfront.net%2Fstaging%2F2023-11-31%2F197e0b24-bb67-5145-1668-4d31f20ab52d.mp3
- [#52 クリスマスと冬至の意外な関係](https://invisiblenetwork.ai/podcast/1633816184/b1fa03b27521) (2023-12-26, 33 min): audio https://anchor.fm/s/9ec2ecac/podcast/play/80457159/https%3A%2F%2Fd3ctxlq1ktw2nl.cloudfront.net%2Fstaging%2F2023-11-26%2F6a937a89-1a78-da8b-d124-dba2644f45bd.mp3
- [#51 オススメの民俗学の本（後編）【WEEKEND, BOOKSのお知らせ】](https://invisiblenetwork.ai/podcast/1633816184/18b0ec4457a6) (2023-12-11, 17 min): audio https://anchor.fm/s/9ec2ecac/podcast/play/79809010/https%3A%2F%2Fd3ctxlq1ktw2nl.cloudfront.net%2Fstaging%2F2023-11-10%2F8bce4832-788f-f4f1-c7bb-794afbd65547.mp3
- [#50 オススメの民俗学の本（前編）【WEEKEND, BOOKSのお知らせ】](https://invisiblenetwork.ai/podcast/1633816184/a857999f6751) (2023-12-10, 21 min): audio https://anchor.fm/s/9ec2ecac/podcast/play/79807713/https%3A%2F%2Fd3ctxlq1ktw2nl.cloudfront.net%2Fstaging%2F2023-11-10%2F9b1bc6a9-86a9-8ce3-6fdf-3b086ae2bb90.mp3
- [#49 七五三③「お大尽のするものだった」戦前から最近までの七五三から考えること](https://invisiblenetwork.ai/podcast/1633816184/5e96d6117300) (2023-12-09, 18 min): audio https://anchor.fm/s/9ec2ecac/podcast/play/79782126/https%3A%2F%2Fd3ctxlq1ktw2nl.cloudfront.net%2Fstaging%2F2023-11-9%2Fa3c747ed-af1b-d6ef-60b6-dba18be86309.mp3
- [#48 七五三② 火付け役は百貨店!?／「七ツ前は神のうち」は本当か？](https://invisiblenetwork.ai/podcast/1633816184/e7c88e35236b) (2023-11-29, 17 min): audio https://anchor.fm/s/9ec2ecac/podcast/play/79141310/https%3A%2F%2Fd3ctxlq1ktw2nl.cloudfront.net%2Fstaging%2F2023-10-26%2F7bb99564-90bf-0648-e918-30a8d25c2529.mp3
- [#47 七五三① 11月15日になったのはいつから？](https://invisiblenetwork.ai/podcast/1633816184/c5ffe858f8c4) (2023-11-25, 19 min): audio https://anchor.fm/s/9ec2ecac/podcast/play/79132461/https%3A%2F%2Fd3ctxlq1ktw2nl.cloudfront.net%2Fstaging%2F2023-10-25%2Fba7aaa35-c07c-2ee6-bc5c-b26fae4037e1.mp3
- [#46 雑談 マンガビブリオバトルのこと。ポッドキャストウィークエンドの追加情報。たぬきさんグッズのこと。](https://invisiblenetwork.ai/podcast/1633816184/f4d66f663d6c) (2023-11-18, 13 min): audio https://anchor.fm/s/9ec2ecac/podcast/play/78812449/https%3A%2F%2Fd3ctxlq1ktw2nl.cloudfront.net%2Fstaging%2F2023-10-18%2Fae7d5ce1-631a-ddb4-59f5-67bb3c5c8f9b.mp3
- [#45 雑談 「伝統」と「和食」って何か。改めて調べてみる](https://invisiblenetwork.ai/podcast/1633816184/9af3e3c46aba) (2023-11-04, 20 min): audio https://anchor.fm/s/9ec2ecac/podcast/play/78155515/https%3A%2F%2Fd3ctxlq1ktw2nl.cloudfront.net%2Fstaging%2F2023-10-4%2Fae9f96ce-ae16-ab2a-9dfc-c2f220000618.mp3
- [#44 菊でアンチエイジング！ 「重陽（ちょうよう）」って何だ？](https://invisiblenetwork.ai/podcast/1633816184/b61a84cb64da) (2023-10-29, 29 min): audio https://anchor.fm/s/9ec2ecac/podcast/play/77858023/https%3A%2F%2Fd3ctxlq1ktw2nl.cloudfront.net%2Fstaging%2F2023-9-28%2Fdc072617-3800-c6e5-f160-a74f792c4cc3.mp3
- [#43 雑談 柳田先生と松ぼっくりと血液型のはなし。＋告知スペシャル](https://invisiblenetwork.ai/podcast/1633816184/c7cf8c925ca4) (2023-10-22, 29 min): audio https://anchor.fm/s/9ec2ecac/podcast/play/77279832/https%3A%2F%2Fd3ctxlq1ktw2nl.cloudfront.net%2Fstaging%2F2023-9-16%2Fcfcc4096-7942-38ce-1b31-648c2b892a70.mp3
- [#42 お盆③ お墓でお食事会？ 全国のいろんなお盆から見えてくる変遷](https://invisiblenetwork.ai/podcast/1633816184/ea9422c640fe) (2023-10-14, 32 min): audio https://anchor.fm/s/9ec2ecac/podcast/play/77204694/https%3A%2F%2Fd3ctxlq1ktw2nl.cloudfront.net%2Fstaging%2F2023-9-14%2F3222237c-a6da-6f17-f120-da5a32b67355.mp3
- [#41 お盆② 江戸時代の町人のお盆はどんな感じ？](https://invisiblenetwork.ai/podcast/1633816184/8a8bc936e407) (2023-09-03, 22 min): audio https://anchor.fm/s/9ec2ecac/podcast/play/75399252/https%3A%2F%2Fd3ctxlq1ktw2nl.cloudfront.net%2Fstaging%2F2023-8-2%2F87479556-2688-5335-14a0-fc5f30d26705.mp3
- [#40 お盆① 夏にご先祖様が帰ってくる](https://invisiblenetwork.ai/podcast/1633816184/0ee9f63e3466) (2023-08-23, 18 min): audio https://anchor.fm/s/9ec2ecac/podcast/play/74957747/https%3A%2F%2Fd3ctxlq1ktw2nl.cloudfront.net%2Fstaging%2F2023-7-23%2F260f54fb-4fb4-da91-3cbe-2a55072629f5.mp3
- [#コメント07 おばさんっていつから？ おせちの黒豆はふっくらorシワシワ？](https://invisiblenetwork.ai/podcast/1633816184/701fbee8ab9c) (2023-08-13, 31 min): audio https://anchor.fm/s/9ec2ecac/podcast/play/74567261/https%3A%2F%2Fd3ctxlq1ktw2nl.cloudfront.net%2Fstaging%2F2023-7-13%2F342887426-44100-2-a416f6a9f80bd.m4a
- [＃コメント06 盆踊り、河童、ひな祭りのはなしなど](https://invisiblenetwork.ai/podcast/1633816184/c9e60e9c38b2) (2023-07-22, 25 min): audio https://anchor.fm/s/9ec2ecac/podcast/play/73711159/https%3A%2F%2Fd3ctxlq1ktw2nl.cloudfront.net%2Fstaging%2F2023-6-22%2F340235620-44100-2-9790064b1e4de.m4a
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