# The turnstile system | The Messiah and his Kittens Ep. 3

An episode of [The Trial of Russell Brand](https://invisiblenetwork.ai/podcast/1630722986), 10 Sep 2025, 31 min.

Audio: https://sphinx.acast.com/p/open/s/62a879162610040012f1c7a3/e/6878db0481b46e595625b86d/media.mp3

The fortress walls begin to crumble. Survivors describe suffering sexual abuse and financial crimes while cult insiders help the authorities bring Adnan Oktar down. Accompanied by a former ‘kitten’, Louise revisits the night the police finally descended on Oktar’s hilltop compound Host: Louise Callaghan, Middle East Correspondent at The Sunday Times. Clips: Ulusal Kanal If you, or someone you know, has been affected by the issues raised in this episode, the website below has a summary of available support services: https://sexualabusesupport.campaign.gov.uk/ Or contact Victim Support’s 24/7 support line on 08 08 16 89 111 This podcast was brought to you thanks to subscribers of The Times and The Sunday Times. To enjoy unlimited digital access to all our journalism subscribe here: https://www.thetimes.com/subscribe/timesinvestigates/ Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

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