# 185: Good Tech CEO vs. Evil Tech CEO

An episode of [The Jeff Gerstmann Show - A Podcast About Video Games](https://invisiblenetwork.ai/podcast/1628348754), 23 Dec 2025, 3 h 04 min.

Audio: https://pdst.fm/e/pscrb.fm/rss/p/mgln.ai/e/433/claritaspod.com/measure/traffic.megaphone.fm/QCD3895666821.mp3?updated=1766527406

Will I ever make it through all of Tron: Ares? Going to guess no on this one. In the news, the game industry loses a legend, the future of Forza clears up a bit, EA shareholders do the thing, and Bits & Bops is pretty incredible. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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