# Ep. 26: Gatchalian tells Cayetano to 'accept the facts'

An episode of [Facts First with Christian Esguerra](https://invisiblenetwork.ai/podcast/1617619142), 10 Jun 2026, 32 min.

Audio: https://anchor.fm/s/8eac2e3c/podcast/play/121310741/https%3A%2F%2Fd3ctxlq1ktw2nl.cloudfront.net%2Fstaging%2F2026-5-10%2Fe3133af6-0c09-f505-5ff5-d3e6fd1d8f6c.mp3

Listen to our episode with acting Senate President Sherwin Gatchalian.

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