# Soy @soy_mauriciocuriel, hijo de Eva Curiel, viví en más de catorce casas para no ser encontrado - Episodio 91

An episode of [CARAS VEMOS SUFRIMIENTOS](https://invisiblenetwork.ai/podcast/1614156002), 1 Aug 2024, 1 h 00 min.

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Él es Mau Curiel, el hijo de Eva Curiel y quiso venir al programa para compartir como vive un niño cuya madre está amenazada por no querer renunciar a él. Este es el instagram de Mauricio @soymaucuriel. Este programa no es terapia si piensas que la puedes necesitar acude a un psicólogo/a clínico o psiquiatra. Si necesitas terapia. evita aquellas personas sean youtubers, psicóologo/a de la tv y que quieran lucrar contigo. Conviértete en un supporter de este podcast: https://www.spreaker.com/podcast/caras-vemos-sufrimientos--6047464/support.

## Transcript

[0:05] From faces we see sufferings, we don' t know they have welcome and
[0:15] welcome faces we see. Remember that this program, for its purpose, is
[0:17] educational and documentary. This isn' t a clinical interview. I do,
[0:22] I am a psychologist, a collegiate and I did psychology at the Universidad Autónoma
[0:27] de Madrid, besides having other specialties and doctorates. But that' s the
[0:31] important part. If you need help, you have to go to a psychologist
[0:36] or a clinical psychologist or psychiatrist, preferably to spend 100%, 100%
[0:43] of their time at the clinic and not like me who is doing outreach and
[0:48] I' m in the kids. And today is a very important day for
[0:53] me. It is important because the courage that someone sees comes here, the
[1:00] generosity I always thank you very much. But if he is also a man,
[1:04] because it costs men more and he is also a person who has lived
[1:11] a good situation, his mother lived a horrible situation. I' m going
[1:18] to say it that way very difficult. Her mother is Eva Curiel and when
[1:23] Eva told me that her son wanted to come to the program. Well,
[1:32] then, I am eternally grateful. Thank you, you' re already of
[1:38] age. I never put minors in, because men find it harder to show
[1:42] that fragility. And, curiously, men have a higher suicide rate than women,
[1:48] because they have difficulty verbalizing how much they have suffered and you have had
[1:56] a childhood full of many people who love you and that but who loved you
[2:01] and that has been a very hard childhood. Right, ufff what do I
[2:08] say Silvia? The truth is, it lasts, but if I had to
[2:15] sum it up in one word, it would be beautiful. Beautiful because there
[2:22] is a phrase that the truth is that it marked me a lot for life
[2:24] and it is something that I have stored in my heart. I think the
[2:28] microphone is a phrase that marked me a lot. I just appreciate my suffering,
[2:32] because without him, my happiness would be empty. I thank you for
[2:37] the suffering because he taught me that my happiness is genmine. Well, then,
[2:43] good. First I want to start by saying that gratitude is completely mine
[2:49] for the space you' ve opened for us, because you' ve invited
[2:53] my mother. And now, you' re opening the doors of this,
[2:57] which is your home, which is your studio, which is your program.
[3:00] The truth is an honor for me to be here and an honor is all
[3:05] the warm welcome we' ve had from your audience. The truth is that
[3:09] I wish that my mom wanted to come for the first time this I was
[3:15] always behind her, impelling her like I wanted to leave it behind and I
[3:20] just can you, and there, I am with her reading comments and the
[3:23] truth is that the affection and care of people is impressive, although it is
[3:29] also worrying because you realize that it is a hell that lives so many people.
[3:36] There have been many people, many women who, as mothers, have
[3:39] suffered, but as a son, there has been no one. It'
[3:43] s the first testimony we have. Thank you Yes, right after the interview.
[3:47] The truth is that here with you too my mom started to get a
[3:52] little closer to other groups, one of them is the group of women against
[3:55] vicarious violence. And that' s where I was zooming in, and because
[4:00] I was by chance out there, it makes me more like to say hello.
[4:03] And that day I realized that I said that there were so many mothers
[4:09] connected, that I realized that they were going through the same suffering as my
[4:13] mom. That' s where I realized one very valuable thing, that is
[4:15] that these mothers represent a struggle for a child like me, a struggle like
[4:20] my mother had for me then, because and that' s what I say,
[4:26] if I hadn' t existed in this world, my mom would have
[4:28] decided you know what you divorce, my divorce, everyone with her stroke and
[4:31] now this, but the moment when a third life already appears at stake,
[4:35] that' s where the mothers go with everything, with claws lying to give
[4:43] their life and I think yes and the children. You, as a son,
[4:47] how you lived it. Because for me, mothers, because I see
[4:53] them and come with all the strength of the world and with all the struggle.
[4:58] But we don' t have the children' s point of view.
[5:02] Juan, you' re not aware, you, for the first time you
[5:08] were a different child. I' d tell you, I' d tell
[5:12] you it' s something that grew up being a part of me. You
[5:16] never tell me that question of why my friends if they live with their parents
[5:20] and I don' t, because they do have their parents together. Because
[5:25] since there' s a phrase that I really like that says that the water
[5:29] is invisible to the fish because it lives surrounded by it, then it doesn
[5:31] ' t realize. And for me, well, look, it would be
[5:36] my first memory when I was two years old and look what a story is,
[5:42] because maybe my mom already told the part. But that same story how
[5:46] I lived it like the day my mom was arrested. I remember and I
[5:50] would say almost remember nothing more of the feeling or very blurred scenes, but
[5:55] they stay in the memory and they are memories that accompany you for life or
[5:59] are straight that in the nights reappear, I mean, they are things that
[6:02] you cannot erase. And just one sentence that also marked me from a movie.
[6:06] It' s with a man he can' t run away from his
[6:11] past, then prison. I remember it' s a laugh. My mom
[6:13] didn' t come for me, my classmates started at the teachers and the
[6:17] teacher- director stayed. I don' t remember who and I remember being
[6:21] with her under the yellow light of the pole on the street is that they
[6:26] don' t come for you. I don' t see your mom anywhere.
[6:28] And the next thing you remember is a big, big, big office,
[6:30] the blinds, a rug, some little office, but for me,
[6:35] a two- year- old boy, he was huge. I remember my
[6:39] mom telling you, I don' t remember the scenes as such, but
[6:44] I remember the impact that I saw my mom and it was like and I
[6:46] remember, a little detail, a horse on a wooden stick, that is,
[6:53] it was after, after having been arrested aha when she goes through me
[6:58] to jail, she goes out of jail and goes through you and since she
[7:00] comes back to me with the teacher who is who took care of me while
[7:03] my mom was under arrest then for me how was that? I remember a
[7:09] lot about the shock that gave me to see my mom, because I think
[7:12] that you, as a psychologist, can interpret it much better than me.
[7:14] The idea of giving up saying my mother didn' t go through me.
[7:17] My colleagues left and I' m alone and as a child you say they
[7:24] abandoned me then seeing it for me was a very profound impact And why did
[7:30] this come out when we were, why was it like that? How you
[7:30] saw her when you were two years old, is that you remember that when
[7:34] you were two years old, that is, it' s hard or it
[7:38] ' s very little. People have memories of two years, but that image,
[7:43] when you saw her, impact is what I would tell you. I
[7:46] mean, it was like I remember a lot about my mother' s office
[7:49] and I tell you about this little horse the only thing that you remember about
[7:54] the office and the impact that that had on me, that is, it
[7:58] was a positive or negative moment and that neutral and that lately as an adult,
[8:03] trying to see things as good and bad, things are you deciding what
[8:07] to do with them. Now what' s going on is that you'
[8:09] re talking about you talking from the day filter of a twenty- five-
[8:13] year- old adult. But what I' d like to know is how
[8:16] a child filters it. I mean, we' re talking about this one,
[8:22] which is me now, my ability to filter things out is, and
[8:28] it' s so much easier to put things away, and it' s
[8:30] easier not to make them traumatic. But a child that suddenly his mom doesn
[8:35] ' t come looking for him and then comes back doesn' t exactly remember
[8:39] fear. Well, he' ll tell you it was fear that was that
[8:45] serious abandonment. I' m telling you what I mean. I remember very
[8:48] much the abandonment that I felt under that strong yellow light of the street lamp
[8:56] outside the kindergarten, but the impact that you might have, if already as
[9:00] a child who doesn' t understand what' s going on was because it
[9:05] was shock shock completely, for example, that memory that your mom tells us
[9:09] about, in which they leave things, all the furniture on the street.
[9:13] You remember that how you perceived it. The truth is that there are things,
[9:18] although I do agree with time therapy, things like that are memories that
[9:24] your mind begins to block, that your mind begins to leave in the background.
[9:28] But if I remember the shock, what it was, Mommy, why
[9:33] people are taking my toys and if the hot cart Wills he described to me
[9:35] was like my worship for a little boy was my portfolio at my school,
[9:39] that is how I saw my godfather, who was a father figure to me
[9:43] when I was a kid, who always brought his portfolio with work papers.
[9:48] I felt like him, with my stroller portfolio. Then it was a shock
[9:54] to me. I would also tell you to remember that moment your stuff on
[10:00] the street and you don' t understand what' s going on. And
[10:01] there' s something that makes me magical. It' s the way my
[10:05] mom, above all else, wanted to procure my innocence. My mom handled
[10:11] it with magic. I' d tell you. I remember. When sometimes
[10:15] we had to hide for myself it was like some kind of game that we
[10:18] have to hide because we' re going to spend soon in the penraiado it
[10:22] was because it was going to go out, to pass by Leon, somewhere
[10:26] where I couldn' t be. They couldn' t know what was there.
[10:28] Then I had to hide while my mom was going to the city of
[10:33] Leona sign and I was hiding. When my mom was late and I had
[10:35] to go hide. I mean, my mom was spending the hell of her
[10:39] life and I was on a farm in Llora, set up with my aunt
[10:43] playing with bunnies. I was with my grandmother in Veracruz painting birds. So
[10:52] what you' re telling me is that all those critical and so difficult moments
[10:58] about your mother, you for the way you perceived it as a child,
[11:03] weren' t like that because your mom took care that you were always with
[11:09] someone you loved or playing with someone and you weren' t aware of what
[11:13] was really past. He won' t say it that much. If I
[11:16] was in a certain way aware of what was going on. My mom from
[11:20] that little boy handled a narrative to me that there was like a good lawyer
[11:24] and a bad lawyer who wanted to separate us, and my mom was always
[11:30] very clear with me about things and I think that' s something very important
[11:33] message that I would like to convey to the mothers who listen to us that
[11:37] my mom never underestimated me, never underestimated my intelligence, my ability to understand.
[11:43] And I also say don' t underestimate children and their ability to remember,
[11:48] because, although nothing else is a memory at two years old. If
[11:52] when he saw my little nephews, that' s how you can remember something
[11:56] like that. I mean, if I listened to her, I wouldn'
[11:58] t believe her. Then it doesn' t go up to estimating that because
[12:03] my mom always treated me with maturity completely because, for example, what she
[12:09] was telling you. I didn' t say anything about my dad, but
[12:13] I do remember a lot of things as simple as that she crouched in my
[12:16] height, the dullness of my eyes and my language, in my way of
[12:20] understanding things. Mommy, you' re gonna have to go, Mommy,
[12:24] you' re gonna have to be in court. You have to behave yourself.
[12:28] You' re gonna be with your big mom, with your granny.
[12:31] He loves you so much. You' re going to go with your aunt,
[12:33] you' re going to be playing while mom' s working. Be
[12:37] good and for me it was a yes man and I porn all good a
[12:41] lot, because my mom never hid anything from me and difficult things are always
[12:46] happening. The house changes were very difficult. Silvia this when we arrived in
[12:52] Mexico, we lived in fourteen houses in the first year. And one thing,
[12:54] then, that has already come out with time is that a psychologist who
[13:00] attended me at that time said that the child' s life is scouse and
[13:05] his only constant is you. Then he blames you and gave you a tip
[13:09] that I say I don' t remember that, but it' s written
[13:13] around. He' s out in talks. He tells me to hug him,
[13:20] hug him until he' s going to get angry at first, he
[13:22] ' s going to start you, to beat you, to kick you,
[13:26] but you' re going to keep hugging him until the child breaks crying,
[13:33] since they break crying and it' s I know there then we always had
[13:35] very good communication. I remember a lot that my mom can say quote chains,
[13:39] food chains, and we would always go to bibs because I loved a
[13:43] marteada there disgusting, but gum that they had I say one day to the
[13:46] proven adult and why I liked this. But to me it was the least.
[13:50] He always called me for that hammerhead a chocomil whatever. And because we
[13:54] had to do that was our space, our little place sure you know,
[14:00] but always speaking things with a lot of understanding, very clearly, it didn
[14:05] ' t hide anything from me. And that' s something that I thank
[14:07] and admire, because many times we try to sweep down the carpet and my
[14:11] mom, on the contrary, she taught me to accept things and to stand
[14:16] up there. I see that your mom, that is, explained things to
[14:22] you in the most affordable way, that is, she didn' t avoid
[14:26] them, but you didn' t like everything either. But of course you
[14:31] didn' t say and my parents, or to me it was very natural,
[14:33] really, like I never questioned myself. It was ok is the life
[14:39] I lived and since I was a child. I had a lot of acceptance
[14:41] of this child. I wanted to comment on the horse because in a change
[14:46] of house we were having eight years ago, maybe, more or less,
[14:52] this one was sweeping the old stuff in my room and had that little horse
[14:58] crumbling over there, up in a thirsty closs under the horse and Mom,
[15:03] what happened the day you gave me this horse and nothing more like leaving what
[15:07] I had and telling me can' t you remember me remembering what? See
[15:15] what you remember, and I say sonle, I remember I remember, you
[15:18] gave it to me. We were in a long, long, long office,
[15:20] with the blinds, the carpet, coffee, one table and you were
[15:26] with another. Ma' am, that' s all I remember, that
[15:28] ' s all, but she tells me you can' t remember Mauricio You
[15:33] were two years old when that happened and it was the day I got back
[15:35] from jail. I didn' t want to come with you empty- handed.
[15:39] Then and then, practically before I greeted myself of anything, I saw
[15:43] her with the little horse and kind of bent down to give it to me,
[15:48] she was like ok a gift, an offer to the best as between
[15:54] asking forgiveness for the best. So that' s something I have very marked.
[16:00] This is about the House of Mexico. I remember a lot about our
[16:04] first apartment at the Openhouse you mentioned. That was a game to me.
[16:10] For me it was the best, because after several years in several houses being
[16:14] stowaways, that I tell the truth and I say it with great affection,
[16:18] all the dozens of families that opened the door to us and me uncle friends.
[16:25] I even lived with my godparents, whom I have great respect and a
[16:30] deep love for all their support, because they lived, opened the doors of
[16:36] their house to us. We live there for two years. I may have
[16:41] been with my cousins, but my godfather Arthur and my godmother Ade were really
[16:45] angels at the time until my mom could buy us or get our first apartment.
[16:52] We moved and I remember that apartment, when I got there I remember
[16:55] very clearly, it was empty, empty, real estate. Without all I
[17:00] had was a bunch of balloons. And for me it was all I needed,
[17:04] because I came and saw balloons everywhere. It' s a party and
[17:07] he' s playing me. It was a very nice picture of that this
[17:11] and well we don' t have furniture, but that happened shortly I remember
[17:15] that we have a table of this size of plasticite with colored legs, the
[17:22] Kinder' s. So for me, like a little boy, to have
[17:25] a kindergarten table in my house and I had it for you, they had
[17:27] given it to you. Now look what things are to me back then,
[17:30] in my understanding of the five- year- old boy, like I was
[17:33] coming I had a kindergarten table in my house, like with my little friends
[17:37] I felt cool because they have a kindergarten table. Oh, you guys eat
[17:41] in boring adult dining rooms and I' m afraid of colors and figurines.
[17:45] What things are when I found out, because it was that Miss Gloria made
[17:48] that openhouse, because she knew that we have nothing, like you realize the
[17:52] bitterness behind that happiness, that is, there' s a lot of happiness,
[17:56] but with a lot of pain behind it, that is, but pain
[18:02] what mm because you didn' t realize just for everything they were protecting me
[18:06] from seeing, but as a child you didn' t notice it. The
[18:10] pain said until you were big, that is, like you say ok,
[18:12] all this innocence was protected from all this, but your pain or your mother
[18:15] ' s pain or pain like that, that is your pain for what your
[18:19] mom suffered or what you came to suffer? I will say that, first
[18:26] of all because of everything she wanted to avoid me, that is, because
[18:30] of all the effort she made to maintain always, that is, with all
[18:32] the pain that she always had to give me a smile and that doesn'
[18:36] t make you think, for example, that jo must be such a loved
[18:42] and grateful person, because within that, of that difficult childhood, everything swept
[18:49] you away in some way, in a way that, then, didn'
[18:55] t suffer that it was assimilated. I tell you when you already suffer as
[18:57] a child, because now what you are talking to me is suffering. When
[19:00] you pessapduct and you realize what your mom has suffered, but at what point
[19:03] you say oh my mother you are suffering, because I remember a lot that
[19:11] day when, just after our things were taken to the streets in Mexico,
[19:15] we returned to León and because in León there was more risk because that'
[19:21] s where my father was. Then she showed me a picture and explains to
[19:26] me that the bad lawyer well, rather there doesn' t explain me.
[19:29] She tells me hey we' re in Leon, he' s your father.
[19:32] This is what is happening and we are the same in bits and I
[19:36] remember that at that moment I was six years old and at that moment I
[19:41] understood everything. Then I remember perfectly what I hit on the table and I
[19:48] say cursed if I could kill him like at that moment that illusion that my
[19:56] mom wanted to defend me so much or protect me. It broke because I
[20:00] realized that the one who was doing all that was my dad, that'
[20:03] s the moment that you realize that okay at six, at six, and
[20:07] look. That' s a pain, a memory that hurts me a lot,
[20:12] because I say there' s a saying that says what children and drunks
[20:17] look like in that they always tell the truth. And for me to realize
[20:21] that feeling inside me in such a small heart would be six years and that
[20:26] came out of my soul. Soon after, he was six years old.
[20:32] Then, a couple of months was my first communion and one just one guy
[20:37] this pepper, he' s the priest who held my first communion ceremony at
[20:42] a family reunion. So, he was just as well aware of what was
[20:48] going on and I remember he tells me mau I want to talk to you.
[20:56] Then I don' t remember much about that talk. I don'
[20:59] t remember literally how much you told me. But I don' t remember
[21:02] what he said to me. But I remember what made me feel something I
[21:03] did. I have very crorofs you told me. All those emotions you have
[21:07] inside you are like a pressure cooker. You' re a little pressure hole.
[21:11] And in that talk, because we talked about forgiveness, He taught me
[21:18] not to keep those feelings in my heart, to let it go tells me
[21:22] if you wait, this will explode, you have to go. The only
[21:26] way you' re free of that pressure is with forgiveness. Then we'
[21:30] ll talk. I remember very much that we spent hours talking and he will
[21:37] tell you that from that day it became clear to me the blessing, which
[21:41] is forgiveness first for you, to get rid of that weight, because I
[21:48] hate resentment are very heavy feelings for a heart and life is so short.
[21:51] Life is such a short journey that you don' t have to travel heavy.
[21:55] So, you, at that moment forgive my father here. To my
[22:00] father, he told me you have to forgive him, why you forgive him,
[22:04] and you know how I am, but I want to see why you
[22:10] forgive him, what you thought. You who had done, knew he was
[22:12] chasing us and knew all the pain he had caused my mother, knew all
[22:18] the tears. At that moment I realized that every tear I saw my mother
[22:23] shed was because of her and that life, because it was abnormal that I
[22:29] had to be running away from my mom having to be going to lawyers.
[22:36] It was his fault for why, because how you assimilate that coming from the
[22:41] person who' s supposed to be the first one to protect you, the
[22:44] first one to love you. I mean, it' s kind of strong
[22:47] to get into that conflict and I forgave him for not playing his role as
[22:56] a protective father that they should be for not being a father figure at best.
[23:00] Then I forgave him and he told me you have to forgive him and
[23:06] I went on with it. Okay, I' m gonna put you up
[23:07] for the name of the lawyer, the devil. I mean, it'
[23:11] s not like I think I loved that front and if I told you,
[23:14] well, I couldn' t share time with you. Your mother didn'
[23:18] t let me look. I know what chances you had to look for me?
[23:22] I know what birthday writing opportunities did you have? I knew that chances
[23:27] of sending me a letter, he did. He didn' t write you
[23:32] anything, ever again. He never wrote to me. And I remember a
[23:34] lot. Once this when there was a reunion, more or less, this,
[23:41] when it was here, is that they are good, is that more
[23:47] being there was a reunion. For my part, I still didn' t
[23:48] find him again, but my mom was with him in the zuzgados. So
[23:52] he tells her you don' t let me see. My son said yes,
[23:57] I' ll leave you if you want to go see him. We
[24:00] ' re in Mexico and you can go and still take it away from me.
[24:04] You want me to put my time and my money to spend on booths
[24:10] to go see it, or other than that you take it away from me,
[24:12] you want me to invest it, but going to see you are,
[24:18] but without bad idea, please, this is no, I mean, because
[24:21] one day you' re going to meet him and he tells you that'
[24:22] s a lie. I never said it, I mean, I' m
[24:26] thinking you as a son, I' m taking the mother away. I
[24:30] ' m completely, I mean, thinking about the well- being of children
[24:33] as well and saying good what happens if you tell yourself that, right now
[24:37] let' s get on with the talk. You' re going to understand
[24:40] why I know a word they say no. I repeat, I' m
[24:45] becoming a devil' s lawyer and completely, in my case, justific.
[24:48] Eh, but there are also men completely unable to see their children because mothers
[24:52] won' t let them. There is also then your mother tells you that
[24:56] he says that truth, okay, when he makes his next effort to see
[25:03] you, truly the effort to see me never did not then, well,
[25:07] and I love this position of the Devil' s lawyer. And it'
[25:08] s something I always try to take into what I do, always when I
[25:12] think something hears, but why do you think this like I love it,
[25:15] because I feel the truth isn' t as easy as yesterday. But yes
[25:18] in this case and because if I can only speak for myself, I know
[25:22] that there are many children, there may be who if it happens to them
[25:26] like that, but you know your people, you know your people and as
[25:30] a child, I always say to you that I was very aware of everything
[25:33] how the reunion was. This is about nine years ago we were living in
[25:38] the city of Monterrey. My mom had her job at the logistics agency.
[25:42] Then she went to America a lot for work. Sometimes I had to spend
[25:48] the night there this one and because his dream was always to be able to
[25:55] take me to buy me clothes, shoes. I remember some gums that I
[25:57] loved, that were vitamins, but in vomiting. Yes, for me they
[26:00] were best a danger. Yeah, yeah. I think that' s why
[26:03] I grew this one so much. Then my mom always wanted to take me.
[26:07] And that' s when there' s the first meeting you hear we
[26:12] ' re living in Monterrey and we need the passport and I don' t
[26:17] know how to say that transition like suddenly for me it was very natural.
[26:18] He' s not here, and suddenly he was very natural. I'
[26:22] m going to spend the holidays with him. I' d tell you how
[26:25] when you' re a kid and he gets close to an aunt, and
[26:30] you remember me who you are I' ve changed your diapers who you are.
[26:32] For me, that' s how I found you with that chick that
[26:34] I always got to knit the cheeks and you don' t even know who
[26:37] ' s something like that. I really don' t remember what the reunion
[26:40] was like. It was a moment in my life that passed without pity or
[26:41] glory. You don' t remember that first time you saw clearly, I
[26:45] don' t remember, I don' t have any emotion associated with that
[26:49] mount. It' s a mental image, not that reunion. I'
[26:55] d tell you it was normal. If I remember then that is how the
[27:00] preparation was how, yes, we talked about my mom and I, my
[27:03] mom always considered me in her decisions. It is also something that I respect
[27:08] and share. It was never his decision always everything he asked, even when
[27:12] we moved home fourteen times in a year, that is in Mexico, I
[27:15] don' t remember. We could have lived in over thirty. So when
[27:19] we have to go, he' s going to love height mau It'
[27:26] s happening, this, it' s happening we have to go and then
[27:30] always like that understanding and so all the decisions were teamed up. My mom
[27:33] and I have always been a good, infallible team. Then how we met.
[27:37] I don' t remember. I was small, I don' t
[27:40] remember. If it' s not like that, I' ll put it
[27:41] on you. I don' t remember. If I went to Leon,
[27:42] yes, he went to Monterrey. I don' t remember. But all
[27:45] of a sudden, like I started spending a vacation with him, remember that
[27:48] vacation? Don' t I remember? No, no, I mean,
[27:52] of course, so why don' t I remember that vacation? Also be
[27:57] something my mom said is already bigger and I want you to give yourself a
[28:02] chance to meet your father in your own flesh, to be with him and
[28:04] that you decide and that you decide. My mom always gave me a lot
[28:08] of that freedom. This one and well, what happened there. We'
[28:15] re looking for this one for the passport. Hey, Mauge, he needs
[28:18] the passport to order these years. Okay, but in return, I want
[28:22] you to spend a vacation with me. I' m paying the school.
[28:26] Then, because I also want my son back I want to meet then I
[28:30] started going with him. There he has a workshop, a huge workshop where
[28:34] he does his job and I remember he' s got like a messanin he
[28:41] uses as a wine cellar, his stuff. There I had, I remember,
[28:45] ay Mira, son, that x I made him and your mom painted
[28:48] this furniture things like that, ay I made it with your mom, that
[28:53] thing was I don' t know what. And among those little things,
[28:57] ay Mira, son, that' s your crib right there, and I
[29:02] ' m telling you, you missed it all the more, and I remember
[29:07] that I had at least a decade of dust on top of the sacuna,
[29:14] implacable, covered in dust, boxes, dirt, dirt, and grime and
[29:18] say what it does here when I needed it, when I didn' t
[29:23] have a crib, because it stayed there. If you said anything else,
[29:26] I just told him that here you seem to be missing more, like I
[29:30] remember that expression as if he didn' t understand and it happened as if
[29:36] nothing, I mean, it was like ah well look, there' s
[29:41] an x The conversation followed after what happened. I remember this one that things
[29:48] started to happen. He just told me that he has a very special gift
[29:52] for me to love there, he loves tubulars, these traction carts, four
[29:56] by four to go to the hill or whatever. Then he told me he
[30:00] got into a very special gift because he had to go home, give it
[30:03] to me. I go with him to his house and pull out a motocross
[30:11] suit, a biker suit, a helmet like that, a missor like that
[30:17] reflects all the armor, the boots, the gloves, the knee pads put
[30:23] it on, how you feel and I, wow, it' s crazy.
[30:29] Me and I say for a ten- year- old boy they would
[30:33] have that time, I mean, I felt more iron in armor, with
[30:37] your old superhero and he hears and not how much you look like. What
[30:41] your friends are gonna tell you when they see you. Oh, he'
[30:45] s a pain in the ass. And it' s not that this is
[30:47] to protect you, because over there on the road, because then if we
[30:49] get good at ours in case, because it' s in case you fall
[30:53] you don' t scrape and how it would look what your friends will tell
[30:56] you and one day they come, because we get suit for them and we
[31:00] give ourselves wow, really bad. I' d love to, well,
[31:03] what do you think this suit doesn' t leave this house and I remember
[31:11] the disappointment I felt at the time. I remember being quiet in shock.
[31:15] I mean, it was a how to me. Yes, this suit and
[31:21] I' ll give it to you, but you can' t take it.
[31:22] Okay if you want to use it it' s gonna be in this
[31:26] house or it' s not used. I take off my suit, I
[31:30] take off my helmet. Take care of him, These were my words at
[31:36] ten years old, at ten years old, I told him take good care
[31:41] of him and if he kind of tried to buy me with things like that,
[31:47] then it would have been best the following year, my birthday, which
[31:49] is very close to the holidays at Christmas. So, well, it'
[31:52] s kind of a school vacation, my birthday Christmas days. So, we
[31:59] are really going to pass on to Leon forever with the maternal family. But
[32:04] then, well, there was the father' s family and then also give
[32:07] yourself the opportunity to spend time with your father and your family. Then he
[32:12] told me to get into a birthday party. Just me, because he'
[32:16] s early for your birthday party. Then we made you roast meat party at
[32:22] your aunt' s. I don' t know what we got to auntie
[32:28] ' s house and you know what the party was. Surprise there was no
[32:30] party. It was empty, because maybe the guys who lived there were there.
[32:36] There was no cake, there was, there was nothing Listen, and
[32:42] what happened is you didn' t win the party, you didn' t
[32:45] behave well, and you didn' t win your birthday party. You decided
[32:47] to spend more time with your maternal family and you didn' t win your
[32:53] party and I had lots of gifts, but you didn' t earn it.
[33:00] Then I remember coming that day for me because it was as if you
[33:06] told it, if this to your mother, of course, then I came
[33:08] and I don' t know I would tell you that always, since little,
[33:14] I have had a lot of acceptance of things. True to me,
[33:15] they weren' t things that hurt me, but it was like, oh,
[33:20] so what do you think happened then? I remember coming and telling my
[33:27] mother and I think my mother was with her friends. I don' t
[33:30] remember well, yes, my mother was with her friends, but the point
[33:35] is that I tell my mother this and the friends find out. So,
[33:38] Betty, my aunt, I mean friend of my mom' s, but
[33:44] family, practically scream in the serious. He says how dare he do that
[33:47] to my boy who doesn' t know he has aunts to see you your
[33:52] wallet Let' s go to Liverpool right now. When I was a kid,
[33:55] son of my biggest dream was to have a Nintendo WII. I mean,
[33:59] to me it was my great admiration and I saved for him and he
[34:02] was promising me all year. So, the year son is that anyone is
[34:06] what color, what is to buy you the right one. And that'
[34:09] s how it got me. Oh, when I see you, when it
[34:12] ' s your birthday, I' m gonna give it to you so that
[34:17] at least day, not then my aunt would scream in heaven. Ah,
[34:21] you cooperate. Let' s see. I put so much on you put
[34:22] so much on. My mom doesn' t have much money, but they
[34:27] all did lopracha. They went to buy the WII at the time. Those
[34:31] who were the same friends they took from my mom, from jail with flowers,
[34:36] heels and clothes were the same. So, then, I' m
[34:44] very fond of them, because it' s not the product, not that
[34:47] gift, it' s the fact of saying son, son, we'
[34:52] re not going to let them do that to you. Then, soon after
[34:55] he talks to me and he tells me he hears you know what thinking it
[35:00] well like I do something a little hard. Then come back your other day
[35:04] We' re still in a lion to give it to you. I already
[35:07] have it keep it then like it' s liking it as something to manipulate
[35:15] me and when I got it, on the other hand, I lost this
[35:17] power to manipulate myself. In the end he did give it to me,
[35:20] I sold it and I bought more eggs, but look what things are and
[35:24] he used that for and he never showed you affection no and being with him
[35:32] was uncomfortable. You felt some kind, you felt that he loved you,
[35:39] that he loved you no, I mean, there are people who know and
[35:44] like love. You think I didn' t know. He knew how to
[35:47] prove or not literally. Maybe I know very well what I' m saying,
[35:51] but I don' t think you can experience it. I don'
[35:53] t know if he' s capable of absorbing such a feeling. Honestly this
[36:00] being that everything he did was always like a lot of teeth out then,
[36:06] because I don' t know, it' s very strong to say this,
[36:10] but I really never felt it that I was being with him was kind
[36:13] of uncomfortable. I' ve never really been afraid of him doing anything to
[36:15] me, but if it was an uncomfortable hour, you know, then you
[36:23] ' re just looking at it for how long, during the time we met
[36:30] in Monterrey, and when I was nine, I was going on vacation with
[36:35] him, let me tell you about another one just like a vacation. I
[36:36] was about three years old. I' m going to work with him at
[36:38] the play. And when I say to work with him, it' s
[36:42] really going to work with him, to be in the play. And it
[36:45] was my turn many times to make her a shawl in masonry matters. Sometimes
[36:50] I was with him in the truck and we' re gonna leave material whatever
[36:52] it was. Sometimes he' d leave me with the shawls that I really
[36:54] had a great time with them. They were fun and they also welcomed me
[37:00] when I was going. But this one I remember a lot about gum.
[37:02] For example, he was like my friend in Laura, one of his shawls.
[37:07] This one and there I had literal load partition, i e listen,
[37:15] put the partitions, here put floor, put the little pieces that go between
[37:20] the floor, short rod and I say to me that it was fun to
[37:22] me, I put the mask and m but what I am going to work
[37:29] from Monday to Saturday of eight until the sun goes down from sun to sun,
[37:35] because he is so too hard- working. Then I went to pass
[37:37] with him the deal. It was three weeks that I was going to be
[37:42] with him, I was going to pay and she was going to come back
[37:45] to continue school. These three weeks go by and ok this good, because
[37:52] already your suitcase everything already passes for you and I stop to leave you.
[37:57] I don' t know what it is and I saw that I was forgetting
[38:02] something important. Hey, you didn' t tell me you were gonna pay
[38:07] me, and when I told her that to pay you, I still paid
[38:12] you what your school paid for. You want me to give you money for
[38:14] that. I mean, I was paying for school. Ah paid the school
[38:17] for maybe a year, that is, paid a year and a half for
[38:22] maybe, but he, for example, didn' t pay two registrations.
[38:25] So the schoolboys pay a period. So I' m here, I pay
[38:30] you for school, and no, and when I paid for it, it
[38:34] was that you were talking to me the next day. Hey, they let
[38:35] you through to school. Yeah, by the way, if they let you
[38:39] in, it' s because it' s paid for, right, yeah.
[38:42] And if you know it' s off, why didn' t you
[38:45] talk to me to thank me, because you don' t know that I
[38:47] had to do it first, that is because it' s your responsibility,
[38:53] that is, how I explain it to you then, because that' s
[38:58] how I was telling you one thing I do like it, that is,
[39:00] although I don' t love it I know that my son says to me,
[39:05] hey, Mommy, thanks for the tennis lessons, that is, even
[39:07] though it' s my obligation, I do like it to be, but
[39:12] it' s a thing for me I wouldn' t say to my son,
[39:12] thank you, but when they say thank you, that' s nice.
[39:12] Especially because and it is not the case with you and me, this
[39:16] is the case with the parents who are there 100%, because sometimes this
[39:22] is expending on the part of the children, who do not take one away
[39:25] to give to their son and to make the children do not realize. This
[39:30] is not the case, yes, because there and when he gave me gifts
[39:32] whatever it was, but there he did it as with foolishness he knows an
[39:37] intention, with one intention mentioned was to receive admiration. I think I feel
[39:45] then that didn' t pay me. He claimed me and tells me history
[39:49] wants money, which means I' m already paying you for school. I
[39:52] ' m giving you experience and I' m giving you an important lesson,
[39:55] which is that life is bastard, no, but to see you earn it
[40:00] from that I dress it. I think you knew better than anyone, not
[40:02] having lived a fifteen, but that person after you said hey you know how
[40:07] many things I' ve never lived in. He never knew the suffering you
[40:13] ' d had. I think he did, yeah, he didn' t
[40:19] care, and you never told him. It wasn' t necessary. I
[40:22] don' t know ever, like I always wanted to take him to a
[40:25] party in peace. I have nothing to claim. Then, when we saw
[40:29] each other, I tried to make it always in peace, but then this
[40:36] what happened good happened like that. Cohabitation was very common, that is,
[40:38] forgiveness. Cohabitation was very conflictive even the most common things. Either my age
[40:45] or my age was a conflict between what juice to buy or what milk.
[40:50] It' s because you want that one, because it' s the one
[40:53] I like, you want it, because it' s the most expensive,
[40:57] or you' re paying for things. So, maybe I' d grab
[40:59] a brand- name soda and give me the gene and he' d take
[41:04] the generic and leave the one I grabbed when I was like that with my
[41:08] son yesterday, because my son, without giving the most expensive stuff, is
[41:10] that it' s not the same thing, it' s not the same
[41:16] thing for me that my real son is the boy. I think so,
[41:19] but I just realized one thing. Don' t feel bad because it'
[41:23] s not the same, because it' s not that I grabbed and refreshed
[41:27] for being the most expensive. He grabbed the soda for being the cheapest,
[41:30] that is, he didn' t even take everything he wanted and that the
[41:32] most expensive and that you' re potatoes wasn' t hear, because I
[41:36] want this soda and he won' t take the cheapest that he finds,
[41:39] that he has, that is if he wanted a milk mark normal was not
[41:45] the bag, almost milk with it knew then this, when I opened social
[41:50] networks, made a little more teen conflict than in my facebook that was like
[41:54] Maucuriel, that is, such simple things. He tells me we need to
[42:00] talk, hey. If you know that the paternal surname doesn' t go
[42:05] first true, yes, then why do you appear in your profiles as Mau
[42:08] Curiel if the paternal surname goes first and you just told me that you know
[42:12] it. I told him because it' s my identity. It' s
[42:15] like I grew up, it' s like mobican. My friends tell me
[42:16] curiel what you want me to say. And when I tell you that the
[42:21] simplest things were a matter of conflict, the simplest things, I remember once
[42:24] at home this as antecedent. I mean, I really love being helpful.
[42:31] I love being a good host. When someone comes to my house until when
[42:35] they give birth, they help us with the toilet, I receive the person
[42:38] with a coffee, when they are going to help us with gardening, whatever,
[42:42] hear a pancake or a water, whatever. I love to be helpful,
[42:45] because if it' s how they raised me, but they have the
[42:49] way to order even in things, then I remember asking me for tortillas in
[42:52] such an offensive and impotent way that I was shocked and told him no and
[42:57] one thing that I didn' t want to heat in tortillas. Things started
[43:00] literally. A fire broke out because it lined the walls with newspaper so that
[43:06] it wouldn' t be in cochambrara and because of some accident that happened with
[43:10] the tortilla it burned. Then the newspaper that was in the kitchen, then
[43:13] made a mess. Then he gets angry and nothing else. I remember he
[43:19] was beginning to tell me that he gives up on me and if I ask
[43:22] you for tortillas, you stand up and you have tortillas, then I remember
[43:28] the panic that you understand that moment and I said that' s not the
[43:30] way it is. My mom was told to go through me and that conflict
[43:35] escalated and that' s how she stayed. My mom went through me fast
[43:39] until we got back to our city and then, well, I talk to
[43:46] him for like he followed. I was talking to claim. And one thing
[43:50] he never had his chance is that I was always behind the phone. Always
[43:53] when I talked to my mom to discuss the phones before, you see you
[43:58] could put them on and listen to them. I always heard everything, I
[44:04] was always behind the phone and every word he said to my mother I heard.
[44:07] I remember how, for example, he referred to me derogatoryly as the
[44:12] child. It' s just that the kid who' s going to know,
[44:15] is that the kid I was going to understand is that that kid'
[44:16] s good for nothing. I don' t know what. I heard him
[44:19] say it cost him fifty thousand pesos to put my mom in jail. I
[44:22] heard him say that there were good for nothing and that it was useless.
[44:28] So, because of that tortilla conflict, he got angry. I' m
[44:32] talking to claim that' s when we were on the phone. There,
[44:37] yes, I was with my mom and he tells her that it was a
[44:42] shame to have a son like me so insolent, despicable, this infinity of
[44:50] things, this one that from that moment on I was dead to him that
[44:54] he didn' t have a son, that he didn' t and tell
[44:59] me or worry or doesn' t make me imagine that I' m going
[45:01] to give them for education. I was just changing at this stage of life
[45:06] that that high school is entering. We had a week we were moving home.
[45:10] We' re not even done, but it was the house of our
[45:15] dreams, because it' s since we were little kids and we fantasized about
[45:19] having our own home. My mom, how do you imagine your house and
[45:22] describe it and it was just that I said the first thing is that I
[45:25] want to get out of the roof, because I' m tall and in
[45:28] the house I used to live in. Lifting his arm, he touched the
[45:30] ceiling. Then I wanted for myself it was a longing to have a house
[45:32] with a high roof. I want stairwell with seals, I want marble stairwell.
[45:37] I want you to have this gate for the cars, but covered,
[45:43] I want you to have a balcony, I want a big yard for the
[45:45] dog. We found the house and then we found them, which is difficult.
[45:51] It' s a bigger investment, but if your dad helps with college,
[45:54] we can then meet a week later. You' ve changed right in
[46:00] that transition from getting into high school says and from paying for school. Forget
[46:06] it,' cause I' m not gonna waste a single penny of my
[46:09] pocket on raising a good- for- nothing boy like you,' cause
[46:15] you' re gonna end up on drugs anyway. You don' t have
[46:17] talent, you don' t have potential and you won' t throw away
[46:21] my money, because if you want to be in a pay school, in
[46:25] a school like that it' s just for mere blof because you know you
[46:29] don' t give up, then, from this moment on, you stop
[46:30] being my son. That' s right, how did it go to deal
[46:36] with that, why did you feel mm I felt an acceptance, but with
[46:45] a face like that, like it' s okay, I accept it,
[46:51] but what a damn you are that courage. I mean, yeah, she
[46:52] ' ll tell you that it never really affected me. It is not something
[46:57] that I never felt pain in his words. I never got caught. But
[47:00] if it was a rage, I think it rages very very natural. I
[47:08] remember the next time you started to have a horrible toothache and I really woke
[47:14] up crying with pain in my jaw. Then my mom, and I tell
[47:21] you financial shortages, always bebid, but my mom, do what she has
[47:24] to do so I don' t miss anything. And that now that I
[47:28] see everything she missed, because I' ve always been taken by the dentist,
[47:30] but she never was because she didn' t have the money to go
[47:36] to her. But if I needed anything, I would go the day I
[47:39] needed them. They are things that honor a lot, but they also hurt
[47:45] to say wow, to sacrifice the love behind it, that is, it
[47:49] is a love that you accept, but that at the same time is how
[47:52] I get bitter. The point is let' s go to the dentist and
[47:55] it was the fastest consultation or dentist I' ve ever had in my life,
[48:00] which came with inheritance and watch you take care of yourself, see big
[48:05] and me and that' s how I really do dentist. I see there
[48:08] ' s been a lot of stress lately, so literal, so was the
[48:12] time. You have the inflamed cinders is I don' t know what in
[48:19] citis because of an episode of stress in which you squeeze the jaw so tight
[48:23] when you bite, when you sleep, that all that pressure accumulates your gums
[48:28] and begin to inflame anxiety. It' s a natural response from your body
[48:30] to a threat. When that anxiety becomes disproportionate, it becomes a problem,
[48:34] it cannot become a disorder. So there are people who, when they have
[48:38] a lot of anxiety, are looking for all the time, the danger is
[48:42] not and this thing that comes out here, this pain that is called attentional
[48:46] cephaly, is caused by anxiety, but there are other people who make themselves
[48:52] ready for what favor you there were more than afraid. It' s true,
[49:01] and look at something like that that happened. When I was five years
[49:05] old, I lived at my godparent' s house and sometimes, because I
[49:09] went to sleep with my godmother because I didn' t want to be alone.
[49:12] Then I was going with my godmother, my godmother aunt. I can
[49:15] ' t sleep like any little kid, because my mom often came late for
[49:20] work. I mean, you know what it' s like to see yourself
[49:22] in this town. Then one thing that cost my godparents a lot of work
[49:29] was to take off my tennis to sleep, because it was hard for me
[49:32] to sleep and leave my shoes, because I was afraid that if month we
[49:37] had to wake up and leave again I had to be ready. So,
[49:42] you did pass that tooth thing this day I said the decision is mine.
[49:50] Okay, here' s how I feel. I have to do something about
[49:52] this, because it' s my responsibility. I mean, it' s
[49:55] one thing I feel, but I can control it, too. Soon.
[49:58] We did an exercise in high school with the school psychologist, very good psychologist.
[50:02] She helped me a lot with a dynamic that I haven' t found
[50:07] because I' ve been looking for it' s called circle falls. So
[50:09] we already have a year and two to get to know each other, two
[50:14] semesters, three and each circle every week or twice a week. The circle
[50:19] was from someone different and today we' re going to talk about Silvia.
[50:22] Oh, yeah, you' re a great friend. You have a lot
[50:24] of potential already we talked about the person and because obviously, everyone had with
[50:29] emotion that it was going to make your circle. Kay, because ay I
[50:30] want to see what my friends made me and always like they were nice things,
[50:34] but also then they would open up like some rough things that were cheered
[50:37] up by the teacher. She was always like the moderator, always kind of
[50:42] guiding everything as it should be. And I remember when mine started that people
[50:45] were quiet, my friends were quiet and a companion who was a good classmate,
[50:51] but we never had closeness or friendship. But yes, good partner relationship
[50:55] is the first to talk and spaldes. Now they always remained very marked that
[51:00] tell me something that strikes me of You is that you have those very marked
[51:04] personalities. Sometimes, since you enter the living room you feel a dark and
[51:09] heavy vibe, but sometimes you also have such a beautiful energy, so full
[51:14] of life. The other day we had to share a taxi because we went
[51:16] to do a project, I realized the great friend that you are Este,
[51:22] how you were talking, joking with the taxi driver and you were such a
[51:28] good friend to me. Then I get a lot of attention from that duality
[51:30] in You and it kind of opened up the conversation and my friends, because
[51:32] yes, I mean, I like you, but sometimes if you' re
[51:37] difficult, you' re heavy, you' re heavy, it' s
[51:40] like the word, then like I' ve already started to tell a little,
[51:45] no, it' s just that difficult things have happened and the psychologist,
[51:47] which is the first thing she says to see me after school. Then
[51:50] I was going with her for a while every week and I was going to
[51:54] tell her what was going on. She helped me a lot like working that.
[51:59] But the most important thing is that I decided that day. That day
[52:00] I realized that I could decide who I want to do. There is a
[52:05] story that I love, which is the story of the two balloons, that
[52:07] a child with a sage approaches and asks him this that there is a conflict
[52:13] within my inner master and you say that inside you there are two wolves,
[52:16] there is a good one and there is a bad one, fighting to control
[52:22] you, teacher, and who wins who you feed to. That story meant
[52:27] a lot to me, because that day I decided what part of my being
[52:31] I wanted to feed and that story just exemplified it with this ring, which
[52:37] is a white wolf, because just when I went to buy it, there
[52:39] ' s a black one and a white one and I said I want this
[52:45] to be a symbol of who I choose to be, because there' s
[52:46] one. I think that was a water part of my life where I decide
[52:51] who I am. And I started studying philosophy a lot, you studied business
[52:57] and investment, but I kind of attached a particular affection to philosophy, also
[53:01] for the classes. And a phrase by Jean Preus sweater that marked me is
[53:07] that a man is a man, that' s what he does with what
[53:12] they did to him. Yeah, a man' s not what they did
[53:15] to him. It' s a man does with what they did to him,
[53:20] but what' s a decision? So I said Ok I know you
[53:23] ' ve been through some difficult things, but the decision lately is mine.
[53:29] You' ve taken off your anger. Yeah, I' ve got quite
[53:32] a bit left for you. I' ll take a few things. The
[53:37] vast majority of great traumas come from the feeling of total abandonment and not feeling
[53:44] loved in your life. You have a history of people who have loved you
[53:51] so much, so much, so much, so much, not about your
[53:58] mom, but all the rest of that network of people you' ve had,
[54:05] making it clear that you' re a very dear son. Keep that.
[54:08] That' s what I got left, keep that. That' s
[54:13] a privilege at the same time, because you' ve had the great fortune
[54:17] of having so many people who love you. Focus on that, not what
[54:20] you missed or what you missed. And now it' s up to you
[54:27] that that childhood you had so hard serves something, and especially for a lot
[54:31] of people. Yes, thank you very much and completely I have worked very
[54:38] hard on myself in forgiveness, reading, philosophy, meditation, even and as
[54:45] I said, hatred. Resentments are very strong emotions for a heart and in
[54:50] life you have to travel light. We can always focus on what we want.
[54:54] I prefer to focus on the good, on the people who have supported
[54:58] me, because while I believe that the evil I have seen in my life
[55:01] has been of a size, but the good and the people who have been
[55:06] to support me have been infinitely greater. And in the end, resentment is
[55:13] feeling something again about someone who hurt you. It' s like you'
[55:17] re watering sense and it says no so it' s what you say,
[55:22] white wolf, keep what you' ve learned and, above all, keep
[55:28] that network of people who love you so much, so much and live the
[55:37] present. You don' t have an extraordinary relationship with your mom. Your
[55:40] mom is already such a capable woman and so hands- on and so brave.
[55:47] Keep what you' ve been and you' re a very dear son.
[55:54] I am. I am, then, if I take anything from the
[55:58] people who loved me, I will, people like You, who even open
[56:01] the doors to us. I want this to serve other people to convey the
[56:07] same message. Always focus on the good, particularly if I could. I
[56:12] ' d like to thank a couple of people. I mean, the amount
[56:15] is huge. We' re going to drop names on her now so you
[56:20] can say it, you say it. Here we' re going to prepare
[56:22] it well, don' t say. I want to thank your Treatments I
[56:24] like to thank Luis Antonio, who is my career director, because, really,
[56:30] what he did so that I could start because it was difficult, he
[56:35] helped us a lot. And also to this van Galindo is practically my brother
[56:39] I say is my best friend, but he' s actually also been an
[56:44] angel on this road as as a friend has been very supportive of us.
[56:50] There are so many people that madrinos, my godparents, of course, and
[56:53] your degree, what a glass of it was incredible because, for economic reasons,
[57:00] I wasn' t going to be able to own my director. He
[57:04] was the one who put the scream in saying it. Mause said he'
[57:06] s calling me because I' m entitled. He campaigned to get pictures from
[57:09] my mom We put the money together. Then I graduated first. Graduation was
[57:16] difficult because when I went through my diploma, as I hadn' t paid
[57:22] for it, I couldn' t get it. You can' t refer
[57:23] to my deploma then I spaced open. The fucker was blank. It was
[57:25] hard for me, but good. The point is, I graduated on a
[57:30] Friday. A master at the recording ceremony. It is approaching, gentlemen,
[57:35] that Maurice is an extraordinary pupil. We' d love to see it continue
[57:38] to develop with us. We see a lot of potential. So, I
[57:42] graduated on a Friday. The next Monday I went to work. I'
[57:45] ve been working there. My degree day comes, about a year later,
[57:49] and my kindergarten director, Miss Gloria, who did it, is present.
[57:53] Yes this one, ketch Ismael, who was my high school principal, you
[58:00] remember the name Ismael montiel Is, Yes, yes this what done. So
[58:07] we told him Director of the Prepa, Luis Antonio, director of the career
[58:14] HUMERTOI Nashelley, owners of the school, were present on the day of my
[58:19] degree. That' s the first time I' ve talked about this.
[58:21] Maybe I' ll say if you want a hundred an intimate circle, but
[58:25] I talked about it in public, because to say that' s all we
[58:30] went through being here. And thanks to Miss Gloria, to Ismael, who
[58:35] was also very much into the situation to which chos, that also made.
[58:37] He also talked to me a lot about forgiveness and he did tell me this
[58:43] mau you have to let go and helped me a lot to work on that
[58:49] too then the fact that everyone was there that day, to me it was
[58:53] like very significant, because they were all part of it then. Mau,
[59:00] you' ve had it, Duro, you' ve made it and you
[59:05] ' ve got a lot of people who love you. Thank God. That
[59:07] ' s how it is thanks to you. You like this testimony. You
[59:17] think I can help someone share it. Don' t forget to click on
[59:23] my social networks, which are Silvia Olmedo for YouTube, Silvia Olmedo for Instagram
[59:30] and Silvia Olmedo official for Facebook, who remembers that, before judging to tag
[59:35] a person, try to understand why faces we see suffering. We don'
[59:42] t know.

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