# El amor me enfermó y me salvó - Episodio 78

An episode of [CARAS VEMOS SUFRIMIENTOS](https://invisiblenetwork.ai/podcast/1614156002), 2 May 2024, 1 h 09 min.

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## Transcript

[0:05] Canas, we see sufferings, we don' t know I' m an
[0:15] Olmedo chair. Graduated in psychology from the Autonomous University of Madrid. I'
[0:20] m a college student at the Psychologists' College in Madrid, as well as
[0:23] a sexologist. But this program is not a clinical interview. This programme is
[0:30] aimed at education and documentary purposes. If you have a problem or feel like
[0:39] you have a mental health problem, or it' s important that you don
[0:45] ' t go to a YouTube psychologist or YouTube psychologist. Those people are divulgators
[0:50] and trust has already been earned through the screen with me. It' s
[0:56] clear what a person is to see how he explains it. We met,
[1:00] we clicked me, you talked about your story, about your testimony and you
[1:11] basically ended up in the hospital for love and they almost made you this true
[1:18] emotion to tell you goodbye already because you are going to another plane. Almost
[1:22] had a good time. The Universe has the plans you never know it'
[1:29] s going to dimension. I' m not a person who' s had
[1:33] a hard time getting through a lot of things, but more in a test
[1:38] than I ever imagined. I am an openly homosexual person and the fact that
[1:42] it involves all the information or not given in this medium or in our little
[1:49] gay world, because you don' t know, doesn' t start a
[1:53] relationship. He supports my partner and I did everything I could as a couple
[1:57] and he was infected with Bellach. Yeah, I mean, you know him
[2:02] the way I know him, like anyone on social media. The comment began.
[2:08] The salidite was growing, as we clicked on all the senses of family
[2:15] friends The time went on advancing. I mean, they did it in a
[2:20] very gradual, very very gradual way. And something that for me is important
[2:23] to clarify, it is that you come from a family environment, from pure
[2:27] love, so since you talked about your sexual orientation, they supported you in
[2:34] everything, that is, you are a person in which you the pillars of
[2:38] your emotional life are very robust, because you always came you were accepted and
[2:45] loved, yes so much everything without which family, parents, my whole family
[2:50] accepted, no, they didn' t have to accept. Just understood when
[2:52] I was going to accept it is that I saw it, that is,
[2:57] in such a natural way, of course, very natural in my family,
[3:01] it is very natural and it came from a nucleus of love completely. If
[3:06] he had strong circumstances in his life, his mother had died, a former
[3:10] pair of things had died that, well, happen. I don' t
[3:16] know him. We started dating. It took us quite a few months to
[3:21] have a relationship than that. In the end I think it was very good,
[3:23] because very organic how things have to be done, because we didn'
[3:27] t do quite well. I think after that, a year from now,
[3:29] they started a formal relationship in a nice way. It all started out very
[3:34] nice him before he had an important trip for work. I remember that I
[3:38] was at my job and I was saying we had spent an amazing weekend with
[3:43] your dad and everything very nice, because it was the first time I knew
[3:46] your dad. Not then was it like to this emotion and feeling of love
[3:52] hate of me will accept or not accept me as any person and well,
[3:54] I think it was very nice the way we clicked or I with his family
[3:58] and he, of course with mine also in his time after that. The
[4:03] only thing I remember is that he told me to wait for you in the
[4:05] house. I want to talk to you and that night was very strong.
[4:11] I think you know when things are going to change. That night was when
[4:15] he found out that he was a viche bearer. It was too strong for
[4:20] him. I remember how he went crazy and how he found out. Very
[4:27] weird. It' s something that I didn' t understand in the beginning
[4:30] how he found out. Not because he first introduced you to his dad and
[4:33] the hours I came from work. Well, I came from work and I
[4:38] was already at his house. It was you see how he had already done
[4:42] these studies, He already had for him. He seemed very strange to me
[4:46] how he had done it. But well, the moment I found out about
[4:48] the situation with him, it was very strong, because his reaction to him
[4:54] made me block myself you know as if nothing else existed and I didn'
[4:57] t have to worry too much about the situation I was seeing. He introduces
[5:01] you to his father, and at two hours he tells you he' s
[5:05] positive. You don' t know what I don' t know if if
[5:14] you don' t think about it when I saw the result because I said
[5:17] read it yourself and I saw it said positive that I didn' t understand,
[5:20] positive that I thought it was a cancer issue or situations, that he
[5:25] had happened before with his family or with his ex- partner no, and
[5:28] when he said no, I felt good and did those studies. The first
[5:30] thing I voted for in my head is cancer or a different disease. I
[5:33] never imagined you know because apart we were a very responsible couple for each other.
[5:39] Or, well, that' s what I thought, and when he
[5:44] found out, I remember nothing else that he went crazy, he ventured things,
[5:49] he hit himself, he said that because he had happened to him,
[5:53] that he hadn' t cheated on me, that I was going to let
[5:58] that happen forever, and I just remember seeing a person that I loved and
[6:01] wanted lying on the floor at the time, and all I did was lift
[6:05] him up and forget about how, who he was with me before me.
[6:06] Then all I cared about was hugging him and saying it here I am for
[6:14] you and that' s what I did all the years after, I mean,
[6:17] being for him. He tells you it' s HIV positive. It
[6:25] reacts in a very dramatic way. Who opens him over you or him.
[6:30] I, okay me, I' m the one who opened him up on
[6:33] him. He told me it' s you, because I can' t
[6:38] and what made him suspect it could be positive HV. I never knew or,
[6:42] I never thought about that until now. You know now it' s
[6:49] been a while. Today I cannot understand how, you know or what it
[6:57] caused, because I, in my thought have always believed that if something hurts,
[7:03] the first thing it does is go with a doctor, and then a
[7:06] doctor will demand studies and studies will reveal something, but he will feel bad.
[7:13] First thing he did was an HIV test. So, clearly he knew
[7:17] something, so you took care of him. You make yourself a plab h
[7:24] yes, just the street in this process of finding out was very strong.
[7:29] He didn' t want to go to work for days, a severe depression.
[7:31] I' d be there like behind him, pulling him, wanting him,
[7:35] pulling him, until we could pick him up a little bit and the
[7:41] doctor and the specialist would tell us what was going on as a couple,
[7:44] what the information was like, because, at the end of the day,
[7:47] if there was a very big ignorance of how it happened there and what it
[7:48] is and it makes your head worse. And then what we did was we
[7:51] consulted everything we could go with specialists. They explained to him that he began
[7:57] his treatment and went on a very important journey of work. I remember,
[7:59] yeah, sorry, you, you didn' t get tested. Yeah,
[8:01] he' s just leaving and I' m doing it, I' m
[8:05] doing the test and I' m negative, I' m totally negative.
[8:09] He insisted on me. You have to take a test, you have to
[8:11] do a projaja. You and me, of course, let' s go
[8:15] with lime first, you then me. The reaction he had had with what
[8:20] had happened had been very strong for me, also for him, clearly,
[8:22] but I could tell him not. On a trip I knew I was going
[8:28] to torment him, I knew it was going to get bad. He left
[8:31] with a lot of fear that on the trip I would leave him, that
[8:35] I would leave, that I would think the things you know and not that
[8:39] I already had a very great affection and love with him. So I ran
[8:43] the negative test. I run another test again a month. I' m
[8:48] negative again. I retake the next month another test, which is in a
[8:50] period of less than three months, and I return to negative. That'
[8:54] s when I say I' m fine. He' s already started his
[8:58] treatment. That' s very good. Not everything, unfortunately, happened that
[9:03] was about two thousand eighteen, that is, two thousand eighteen. So you
[9:07] don' t think good at the time, and when this man gave him
[9:13] vech, I never thought. You know love is blind or at least it
[9:18] was for me to come from a family nucleus of love, from understandable parents,
[9:24] from parents dedicated to you, from brothers, from friends selling from a
[9:28] very, very beautiful core, not from a new world of pink color,
[9:33] but a beautiful world with education and values and with love. And I still
[9:41] thought that existed. No, and that' s what he did to me.
[9:46] I don' t know how to stay and not see things or even
[9:52] make them up. Today I see reality from another point of view, from
[9:56] the outside and not from within what I lived. Not then, I never
[10:01] asked myself until a long time later and the people around you didn' t
[10:05] ask you. That part is strong and complicated. When he found out about
[10:11] his illness, no one found out it was him to this day. I
[10:18] guess, I don' t know, it' s grave, there'
[10:22] s no one who knows. The only one who knew about it in the
[10:24] relationship was me, family, friends or anything. Maybe I refuse fear,
[10:31] I don' t know, but his people swim completely quietly, completely making
[10:37] their lives. And the only one who knew it, because it was his
[10:41] partner, who was me at the time, at that moment they tell you
[10:46] that you are see i ah negative and you say that you have a couple
[10:52] that is ichi and positive. They don' t tell you to start a
[10:56] non- preventive treatment for me, they prevent, they don' t tell
[11:01] you to start with the prep They didn' t tell me. I didn
[11:03] ' t either. Unfortunately, I see it today. There is a disinformation
[11:11] and a great ignorance that there are medicines that prevent the disease, which are
[11:16] free, that are available to any human in the population and no one does
[11:22] it today, what I know is that there is a very little percentage that
[11:28] people are or are responsible for going a PREP, which is a preventive drug
[11:35] against transmissions such as HIV. I didn' t even know that at the
[11:39] time, I didn' t know the same disease. I began to know
[11:43] the disease together with him day by day, step by step of all the
[11:48] information that specialists and doctors gave us and he led him to undetectable values.
[11:54] They lead to undetectable values. The doctors or the doctor are not explained that
[12:03] process of We will start from coranti retroviral studies gradually every three months and he
[12:09] was surprised with the driver when he saw calm. I have heterosexual and homosexual
[12:13] couples and people with the disease in 20 years. Yeah, life, yeah,
[12:18] perfectly fine. That kind of helped him and me like I said that
[12:22] father that everything is beautiful, that he' s seeing the beauty of the
[12:26] ugly or what he thought was ugly, that he started with the treatment,
[12:30] treatment, treatment and evolution that at that time the doctor didn' t count
[12:33] or as a couple, because I was accompanying him. The doctor was about
[12:39] six to eight months old, you could reach a stage of undetectability, because
[12:46] clearly the medication has to work. Then he went on with his treatment,
[12:50] just as he started with psychological therapy and something I don' t know is
[12:58] how pretty I felt at that beautiful moment gave me a lot of importance as
[13:03] in the aspect of what I wanted to do. Wherever I was, you
[13:05] know how you know what you want us to do, we' re gonna
[13:09] do it, like you gave me maybe it was a power over him.
[13:11] I don' t know if I wouldn' t know about it now,
[13:16] but I mean, you know very well what you want to do, very
[13:24] much like one I thought I' d seen the allo. He didn'
[13:26] t let me know why in this environment, in this world ok NO or
[13:33] LGBT, there is the same discrimination with people with HIV, as with any
[13:37] other orientation there are. And I think that was like a they' re
[13:43] gonna leave me. You know the fear of couples is who it was and
[13:46] you cheated on me and all this stuff that takes place. And we don
[13:50] ' t have people who take the bull by the horns and stay in the
[13:54] relationship. You stay in the relationship, you have intimate relationships. Improved with
[14:00] protection? Protect with protection, or until the whole process of our relationship has
[14:05] always been complete until it reaches two thousand twenty- one, the whole relationship
[14:13] began to march, of course like any high and low relationship, but it
[14:20] began to march out of all good. You were very much in love,
[14:26] very much I did not know what love was until he arrived, but I
[14:31] also knew the infidelity caused by me, a rare infidelity. When he started
[14:39] the whole disease process it was like a movie. Not him behind the disease
[14:46] and me behind him, but no one behind me. He cared so much
[14:50] about his illness that I felt so much, because I didn' t see
[14:56] it, but I didn' t see it and I start to believe it
[15:01] or I think it' s a person who thinks there are two types of
[15:07] infidelity, the infidelity born that people are and won' t change and it
[15:09] ' s okay, or the infidelity also caused by the one in front of
[15:13] you, that' s called your partner. He felt like he forgot about
[15:16] me and someone came to give me affection now and to covet me how he
[15:20] ' s like this, how you' re doing and what' s going
[15:22] on. Realized of what I was living and the feeling that someone understood me
[15:26] and someone cared about me not and that they also have human and physiological and
[15:31] sentimental and emotional needs, he began to give them to me clearly. He
[15:37] later found out and the papers were reversed. All of a sudden, you
[15:43] find a person who, instead of you giving and sparing and caring, gives
[15:52] you what he' s not getting in your partner relationship. How you know
[15:56] him, I already had him as a friend. Clearly I needed to get
[16:04] it out because I was in the relationship too and it was strong for me
[16:07] too. I was carrying everything. Or I felt like I was carrying everything
[16:11] without him imposing it on me. I own it. That' s my
[16:15] irresponsibility and I' ve always believed it. But the fact, as you
[16:18] know, that he was all right, because Mario, he had someone to
[16:22] take care of him, who protected him, who took him with him to
[16:26] the doctor, who understood him. You know, he had a nice core,
[16:30] but I felt like I was missing and you and you were feeling and
[16:33] maybe I didn' t have the mistake of not saying it, too.
[16:37] But it was mistakes that couples sometimes have and know this friend you already know
[16:45] and how you come to have a relationship greater than friendship. Or it was
[16:51] only once alone. It wasn' t sexual infidelity. It was just an
[16:57] infidelity because I saw very much the benevolence to start creating as comments already I
[17:06] want to see you I would like to see you or to have this sexual
[17:15] opening with someone else, because I couldn' t have it with him,
[17:18] because at the beginning of that he started with the treatment, there was a
[17:23] rejection was not maybe because of fear towards me, because I didn' t
[17:29] want to catch it because I don' t know I mean he was evading
[17:33] you, what avoiding having relationships without you anymore. You may not know a
[17:36] person who' s sticky and he doesn' t feel and doesn' t
[17:38] have needs and I had them and maybe I focused them on the other person
[17:45] and they were sexual talks and they were sentimental comments and they were to that
[17:51] this of what you need was like a cluster of various things that I didn
[17:55] ' t feel I had in my relationship at the time. He finds out
[17:56] because he badly opens my phone and this that to everything he can and finds
[18:03] out and to be this man who was thank you for being and gifts and
[18:11] pretty and you and you are in my life and I love you was now
[18:17] the bad guy you are for what you did and I felt that he got
[18:19] rid of a guilt, if he felt a guilt. Now the bad guy
[18:23] was me, now it was all me, if we had an argument,
[18:29] but you did this you started a war. See who shot first and that
[18:33] hurts with the other person as soon as he opened those phones. You never
[18:40] talked to him again. We stopped everything and you didn' t sleep with
[18:44] him. I never slept with him. It was never more an emotional need
[18:52] and talks for me to imagine things that the need for me has not dared
[19:00] me. So much. They were talks, they were messages because he saw
[19:03] it. He never rapes or messages like I already see you to such a
[19:08] place and it was never just pictures things like that Yes, he discovers it
[19:17] and changes with me. Now to hit it. It' s like the
[19:22] story of the dad and the kid that gives him lemon ice cream every day
[19:25] and one day there' s no Vanilla and I don' t want to
[19:27] go for van and I want Gamon. Then he takes me off like that
[19:32] hook he had with me and he starts giving more to his people and his
[19:36] life and he was fine, but we were starting to get hurt because our
[19:41] foundations weren' t working so well anymore. How he hurt himself, look
[19:45] at you. There' s something very funny about this that once my psychologist
[19:49] told me some time after I got out of the relationship and that I understood
[19:55] what it was like. He told me you know that if you have to
[19:59] try to support and art in knowing who someone is they will tell you the
[20:03] five people he meets and I as well, we are regularly the result of
[20:07] the five people who are in our environment. When I' m outside,
[20:14] I see the environment of him, people with the same deficiencies as him,
[20:19] with the same problems, maybe he with many things. I' ve never
[20:26] had such a strong core with your people. I never really liked them.
[20:30] They got to be rude to me. Then he, when he discovers what
[20:34] happened, he changes and begins to give that affection and that love again to
[20:38] his people and how clear it was an important thing on his list. But
[20:44] of the priorities let us assume five out of ten priorities. I was ten,
[20:48] or it was five o' clock, you know. I went to
[20:51] a different level of priority on your way and clearly started these wars. I
[20:56] ' m gonna do this, hey, but we' ve got this,
[20:59] because if you want to, you know, these gross, dumb fights that
[21:03] all couples, maybe sometimes we have. Don' t tell me about it.
[21:07] For example, I remember a party where we went with his cousin and
[21:21] friends and at first I thought very normal and I didn' t like his
[21:27] feeling of I had never seen him get high. And for me it was
[21:30] very strong to have seen a person drugging in my face and with these effects
[21:37] that caused the drug and I what we' re going to cross out these
[21:42] things of this guy not so strong. But I don' t know because
[21:45] I don' t then see him gone and I didn' t understand.
[21:51] I already wanted to leave and he won' t stay And I, because
[21:55] giving myself to take care of allowed him rudeness of the cousin and you would
[21:59] know of the friend and rudeness of here, you wanted him from there and
[22:06] he was very strong and I demanded and he claimed and nobody won in a
[22:10] gruesome fight. Everyone gets their fifty percent and maybe there will be an apology
[22:15] on both sides or maybe not, but we leave it. Pass, pass,
[22:18] pass, pass? And the relationship, clearly, the relationship clearly,
[22:22] was falling apart in many percentages of things and everything you felt totally with your
[22:32] eyes closed. I cared so much about his health that he was happy.
[22:37] He came from a nucleus where his mother had died, where he had to
[22:41] work since a nice little boy a little big. His mother dies and takes
[22:45] responsibility for his half- sister. Dad wasn' t as close to him
[22:51] as he was. You know, like, I think sometimes you put on
[22:56] the Lifeguard label yourself. And, on the other hand, in your emotional
[23:03] situation you felt that I was not loving you, I was suffering also for
[23:07] that you perceived that not, because although there were fights, arguments, never
[23:15] strong, that is to say, but not with aggression, not with anything.
[23:21] I think at the time we knew how to balance that part. But
[23:25] clearly, each fight was, then, a star that was dying, but
[23:30] we were holding on to maybe the two of us. You weren' t
[23:33] aware that he was stopping you from loving, not that he changed you when
[23:41] he wasn' t sick, yes, not as much as when he found
[23:47] out. But yeah ah so he started to be more affectionate when he was
[23:52] sick, when he found out about the disease ok and then if he was
[23:56] more affectionate and uncle putting in the other person' s place and no,
[24:02] I don' t want to. Yeah, if he' s more affectionate,
[24:07] the only thing you lacked with him was to have more intimate relationships,
[24:12] maybe more intimate relationships, maybe more understanding, maybe what you did you know
[24:19] as well as maybe I at heart, what I wanted from him was to
[24:25] tell me what you did infidelity without getting into sexual activity. I can understand
[24:33] you, because I too had a responsibility to abandon. I mean, you
[24:37] know how not. I wanted him to understand that what I had done I
[24:41] had done for a need, that he had let go for a subject that
[24:47] he was living, that it was the other intimate relationships that was what it
[24:52] was. You didn' t have them, we didn' t have them,
[24:56] we didn' t have them in the first few months that he clearly
[25:00] began to understand the disease, or that, as a couple we started having
[25:02] the disease? It' s been months since the doctor said you' re
[25:04] doing great. So, obviously, as a couple, you don' t
[25:08] start having sexual activity again. And that' s when you' re unfaithful
[25:12] or before I' m, I mean, at first they' re ok
[25:18] and he finds out. After he finds out, suppose he started the first
[25:22] month of treatment, the third month passes and after the third month of treatment
[25:26] we start having sex again and you do it. You start testing with this
[25:33] friend earlier in the first month, in the first month and a half.
[25:37] Yes, I never try to justify conduct, but I do try to understand
[25:44] both sides, because sometimes, when you understand both sides, you can reconcile.
[25:49] Not that for me that I think it is too. It' s
[25:55] also an option After that situation they didn' t talk about it. You
[26:00] never talked because we were fools. We had many good things as a couple
[26:06] and many areas of opportunity. The pandemic is also coming. He returns home
[26:10] for work, obviously, and I in those months, because I was hiding
[26:15] at home because there was no work, because everyone gets home office. It
[26:19] was all about being calm Don' t go out It' s not about
[26:22] the other thing. The relationship was sustained. We could grab her. I
[26:27] was still in love. I think we were missing him, too. I
[26:32] didn' t lack roses that every month he gave me, I didn'
[26:37] t lack dinners, I didn' t lack calls. If I consented to
[26:40] you, they loved us there was a very big love, which I think
[26:45] that' s what I never did. Neither he nor I might understand that
[26:48] we were so united, because with everything and everything, we kept fighting for
[26:56] the relationship. However, until the two thousand and twenty- one of September
[27:00] comes, the two thousand and twenty- one that I was starting to have,
[27:07] like, insomnia, stomach pains and I was saying," Hey,
[27:15] listen, half- eating or something or something is weird, but I have
[27:18] to go and take care of it" And the first thing I thought is
[27:25] long ago you haven' t been tested for VVIH and I' ve already
[27:27] taken it from the car I went to a foundation. There I go and
[27:29] I make it. It' s the most stormy fifteen minutes of your life.
[27:33] It was a quick test. It happens to you. Everything happens to
[27:37] you, your life, your emotions, your feelings, your ex- boyfriends,
[27:42] your whole life happens to you. And then the doctor comes up to
[27:45] me says Eduardo, I have a result of your favor about tibe or oingo
[27:49] in it and he says, Eduardo, I' m sorry. You'
[27:53] ve had sexual activity with people with HIV, or this and that. And
[27:57] I, if my ex- partner carries HIV, I since the two thousand
[28:02] eighteen, then you understand the disease and all of me until today what it
[28:07] entails to know yes, well. Then I want to tell you that,
[28:11] unfortunately, you' re an HIV carrier. Then I took it very natural,
[28:21] very normal, because I was in a relationship with a carrier. So
[28:26] it wasn' t like I didn' t know I could risk it or
[28:30] I couldn' t pass. And he tells me Doctor, I' m
[28:32] surprised how you' re taking it. And I, doctor, is that
[28:34] along with him I understood that I mean, it could happen to me,
[28:40] I mean, I' ve never been afraid it would happen to me.
[28:41] So I get it, I said okay, let' s start your process
[28:45] right now, let' s take you to the countess line here in Mexico
[28:52] City, that this clinic, the extraordinary ondesa, is a clinic. Incredibly
[28:57] I' m going to Benjamin Hill Clinic, Ben Jamel Benjamin Hill, chemistry.
[29:03] It is a specialized clinic for all sexually transmitted diseases in Mexico. Then
[29:11] they tell me they' re waiting for you a partner of us who supports
[29:18] at the time of starting this. It wasn' t clear that it was
[29:22] different, because he started all his service, his whole anti- retroviral and
[29:30] infectious process and all privately. I didn' t, I did everything like
[29:36] any non- public person, the public sector. When I see this shock
[29:42] of life you know that you can go to a private one and then and
[29:51] you don' t see patients and the doctor takes care of you and you
[29:56] leave quickly and nothing happens to see a world that I' ve never seen,
[30:00] people who have the same thing as me, people who were formed people.
[30:04] For me it was very shocking, because there are also two worlds and
[30:11] when it got there it was very strong, because they do the studies and
[30:18] I remember very much that the doctor who gave it told me you look very
[30:23] calm and I but it is because my partner and how you are with him
[30:29] and it takes you yes, everything is fine. I mean, I'
[30:30] m not afraid. It didn' t affect me having this. He told
[30:36] me that you don' t have HIV and I how then they were wrong
[30:42] or how Eduardo told me, yours is more worrying and I, doctor,
[30:48] don' t understand. Eduardo told me, you' re not in the
[30:51] HIV stage. You' re already in advanced stages. Decide. I knew
[30:57] it was HIV, but I didn' t know it was AIDS and my
[31:03] world turned around. My world fell off. My castle fell off and I
[31:10] said how. He told me we' re in a very strong stage of
[31:15] covid infection and you can' t be on the street. He taught me
[31:18] the studies and told me of such a number, such a number. He
[31:22] explained certain things to me in studies of when a person is in a non
[31:30] - transmission stage, when you have HIV, and when you reach an AIDS
[31:33] stage that is less than two hundred fours or defense cells. I had one
[31:38] hundred twenty something and your burden will be thirty- eight thousand. My Miran
[31:44] load wasn' t that big, but I had attacked very hard or the
[31:48] strain I got was very strong. I couldn' t believe that. Then
[31:52] I said the doctor. I don' t have a question. How I
[31:56] got here so fast on the VIP test or Bela chacida. No, no,
[31:59] don' t come in in the day. That' s what he
[32:00] told me. How long ago you' ve been with your partner, who
[32:06] ' s been infected, and from the 2, 000th she told me and
[32:09] the Enkemon you know as doctor' s questions with me, from when did
[32:12] she begin her treatment. And then and this and listen and in this time
[32:15] that happened it' s not a certain science, but more or less,
[32:19] doctors can help you understand why you came from here. And what I understood
[32:25] is that the moment he started his first anti- retroviral pill at a stage
[32:30] of undetectability is called a window stage and you can continue to transmit the virus.
[32:40] So, at some point, you were seen in relationships, always a
[32:45] hundred relationships. No, I don' t remember without protection. I don
[32:47] ' t think so, but I don' t know if the condom broke.
[32:50] If this you know it' s so many things it' s a
[32:54] virus. I understood that it was a virus and that, for science'
[32:57] s sake, you' re not going to understand how it' s going
[32:59] to be transmitted. I already had that you gave me the information. He
[33:02] told me we need to start the procedure. We can' t channel you
[33:07] because you' re from the State of Mexico. Then I' ll send
[33:08] you a reference over there. All I remember is that I was gone.
[33:15] I didn' t understand anything. I got home, I came crying,
[33:20] I got bad. We lived together a year and a half to get together,
[33:23] they lived us. We went to live together and he tells me everything
[33:28] well and I do, with what face he said. You know the way
[33:34] we were in the relationship, the problems we were bringing. I didn'
[33:38] t know how to tell you I have vich but I' m in advanced
[33:44] stage. I decided to keep quiet for a few days. I couldn'
[33:50] t, I didn' t know how I in a relationship was afraid of
[33:55] rejection, also being in a relationship where my partner was or was a carrier.
[34:00] It also took a few days, two or three days. I'
[34:07] m going to the State of Mexico to start my process with my antiretroviral treatment,
[34:15] and it was very strong, because it was seeing people. Just like
[34:19] me, I came back very distraught and he' s when he tells me
[34:24] what' s going on and I didn' t want to tell you because
[34:27] I didn' t know how? But I have HIV what and I do
[34:34] not, but to see how? I mean, I took the antiretroviral and
[34:38] then I didn' t, no, no, no, you asked me.
[34:42] He said good, but I mean, it was me I couldn'
[34:47] t believe his answer. You know I was more shocked by mine than from
[34:51] what she could tell me, I said don' t worry, I say
[34:53] nothing more than I don' t have HIV said then I understand myself and
[34:59] I' m in stage. And that' s when he hit it.
[35:02] She stared at me, tears came out and she told me everything' s
[35:06] gonna be okay. And I believed in him maybe not that we at least
[35:10] understood this situation from her again. It' s both of us. Two
[35:15] weeks later, I' m starting treatment. At first, the medicine falls
[35:22] very hard. It' s a medicine that starts acting strong in your body.
[35:24] On the first days rest, no peace, and he greeted my little
[35:30] pill. I' m going to understand, I' m going to some
[35:36] studies and some clinical issues inside the clinic and I' m becoming a little
[35:40] friend, of a 22- year- old boy, a rodrigo who we
[35:49] were trained for the process of going on with medications. And I remember he
[35:52] was saying it was so cold it was eight in the morning and I was
[35:54] there, so much the truth he told me. You also tell me that
[35:57] my stomach and I hurt a lot, but in what way. Like this.
[36:01] So, and it was the first time I listened to someone else who
[36:07] also hurt his stomach. Suddenly, it hurt me after that too He got
[36:12] a wheelchair He was feeling weaker. I wore it the sun We passed and
[36:17] became my friend in the process of all this. Two weeks later, maybe
[36:22] I don' t remember. They were stomach infections that were killing me.
[36:30] And the time came for the first hospitalization and the strongest moment I would ever
[36:37] think of living for my parents to find out. My parents didn' t
[36:42] know about him. Then he called them on the phone because I was already
[36:46] in very serious ER. Diarrhea and stomach aches were killing me. A person
[36:53] in stage decides is prone to any disease. He' s gonna fire you.
[37:01] Then I mark my parents. My parents came in and didn' t
[37:07] tell them that only eduards in the hospital got sick of the stomach. I
[37:10] ' m coming. And all I remember is that my mom was on one
[37:14] side and my dad was on the other side in the ER, me with
[37:19] sheets to lower the fever, tachycardia, stomach ache. And the only thing
[37:24] I remember is that I was telling my dad and my mom to forgive me,
[37:35] to forgive me, and my mom was telling me my love, but
[37:40] I have to forgive you, I mean, everything' s gonna be okay.
[37:43] It' s a stomachache. Me, Mommy, is that I have
[37:52] AIDS and my parents what it is that Paco got the thing very strong.
[38:00] They took her out. My parents understood nothing and had to explain to them,
[38:05] because he was also a carrier, that my parents had infected me.
[38:08] The only thing and that my mom told me a long time later is that
[38:14] they were just hugging him and they told him that it wasn' t his
[38:16] fault, that they wanted him as a son, that we were going to
[38:20] get ahead and that you don' t have to feel guilty about anything.
[38:27] I spent 20 days in the hospital. I didn' t eat any t
[38:36] and toast. I was afraid of one of the greatest pleasures to eat I
[38:40] was afraid to eat thanks to God or life, except the one in the
[38:46] hospital. I' m going home. Everything was evolving well. And a
[38:52] week again to the hospital because I was giving myself a pan cryatitis, but
[38:57] my defenses were much lower and the strongest moment came. I still had to
[39:05] get a type of sedative like morphine from the pain I had. I was
[39:10] sedated completely and very few people could see me it was very serious to have
[39:17] to operate. I remember Dr android told me to talk to you about talking
[39:22] to your parents and I do, it' s your body and it'
[39:29] s your life and your case. I' ve taken it very personally because
[39:35] you' ve been in the hospital a long time. So, you'
[39:37] re already part of here. I have to operate on you, but I
[39:43] can' t operate on you. And I didn' t understand what he
[39:45] meant. He told me he' s giving it to you. You'
[39:47] re about to get a pan cryatitis, but I have to operate on you,
[39:52] but I can' t operate on you because you don' t have
[39:53] defenses. But I' m going to operate on you. You have forty
[40:00] - eight to have all the people you want to be with them, I
[40:07] mean, I tell them you love it is for me water. It'
[40:12] s been the strongest pain I' ve ever seen in my life. It
[40:16] ' s the strongest thing I ever thought I was gonna live. Say goodbye
[40:22] to my parents, my friends. It was hell and he was the last
[40:31] one to come in. He no longer felt so much love, he no
[40:36] longer felt so much his love for him as they were no longer hugs.
[40:39] He was becoming more and more detached and I remember Don already told him to
[40:49] see me full of terés. You don' t know, I don'
[40:52] t get blood anymore. Already hurt, he' s already paying for what
[40:59] he says. He said good faithfulness, he saw it, He got very
[41:04] bad. He understood everything maybe and told me everything was going to be okay.
[41:12] I believed in him because there was a love that still held the line
[41:16] relationship. I got out of the operation. There were complications, but you
[41:30] came out of love and the universe and energy, because there came a time
[41:35] when I no longer believed in God. The time has come when I said
[41:38] stale after a few other whites and yet another sluggishness, but I am grateful
[41:49] for all that. Now, what it was like to go out, open
[41:53] your eyes and see that you' re alive or here. Who was the
[41:57] first person I saw a nurse who was supposed to give me water? I
[42:00] think I was thirsty after the recovery from the recovery room, and that'
[42:07] s when he opened his eyes and said I' m here. I'
[42:14] m alive. I' m fine from here. I don' t know
[42:16] what happens next, but I' m gonna be fine How was it when
[42:20] you saw your mom. It was very strong to see them until today are
[42:30] the people and weld the most important people in my life, because they haven
[42:36] ' t let go of my hand since I was a child until today and
[42:49] see them as they still do until today, They carry the jamming me you
[42:55] still know is to have seen them after I saw her from that moment remember
[43:01] is her clear face, my mom crying and my dad shaking. My mom
[43:04] ' s stronger than my dad' s than her son. I was alive
[43:07] how beautiful and it all came through I started marching. I was discharged back
[43:13] home. How it was to see who your partner was after waking up with
[43:28] a lot of love. I think I still felt a lot of love.
[43:35] You know what his face looked like, with tears and happiness. At least,
[43:45] that' s what I remember seeing I feel like sometimes people get too
[43:55] much love. No, and I remember he saw me like that and he
[44:06] told me everything' s gonna be okay. Unfortunately, you think things are
[44:12] going to be one way and you don' t leave the hospital. We
[44:16] returned home by December There was still a pandemic. All this. I didn
[44:23] ' t leave the house. I blew them at the house, that is,
[44:25] no one could see me anything because of taking care of me, because
[44:30] my defenses were coming down more and more. The stage decided did not go
[44:35] up, did not advance, for good, on the contrary, it went
[44:38] more badly because they were disrupting my defenses. I remember one day he was
[44:44] very stressed out, very maybe depressed, and I said go, listen,
[44:49] why don' t you go. I' m fine, why don'
[44:51] t you go have a little fun with your family, with your cousin,
[44:53] with your friends, a petit who has a little meeting because she' s
[45:00] coming to Christmas and she told me, she said no how you think she
[45:01] ' s going to leave you. I mean, I mean, it'
[45:05] s okay, and he took the floor and he' s gone He'
[45:10] ll be here by four or five hours. It wasn' t like he
[45:14] was going to wake up or anything. He went for a while to have
[45:15] fun, to be with his own, you know, to breathe a little
[45:20] bit, not everything that was going on. It' s been two three
[45:22] days. He was working and suddenly he got a call that one of a
[45:28] person he had lived with, that he was his cousin, that he had
[45:31] infected himself with food and then he came out. But like lightning, out
[45:37] of the house. He told me to put on a mouth cover. This
[45:38] is the other thing,' cause I' m gonna get tested at an
[45:43] hour two hours. I checked out and he tells me it' s positive.
[45:45] Please, scour the house. Stay there, I mean, don'
[45:49] t go out. If we' re not the head and I didn'
[45:52] t understand anything. He dialed him. I didn' t understand how.
[45:54] I don' t remember, but my dad came home. I think he
[45:57] had dialed it for me, because I couldn' t leave the house.
[46:00] No, and he was starting to feel bad. Yeah, he started the
[46:05] fever. Already the symptoms that at that time were te and the fear and
[46:09] fear I had obvid could be death. So, yes, it was a
[46:14] horrible fear. It was also had, i e it has a stage,
[46:17] maybe already of undetectability until that moment already, but at the end of the
[46:22] day, it' s strong viruses that you don' t know how I
[46:24] ' m going to attack your body son grabs the dogs and we leave that
[46:25] I don' t know what. I do and I said, Daddy I
[46:28] love you very much, but I' m not going to go anywhere like
[46:34] that. There' s a lot of risk that you' ll love a
[46:38] covid kills you and it was more, I saw the light to my dad
[46:42] and I said yes, Daddy, but he' s my family, he
[46:47] ' s my partner and this is my house and I' m not going
[46:50] to leave him. With a serious illness, leaving two hospitals with low defenses,
[46:55] I stayed because I think I had to stay for love, because he
[47:02] was my partner. Why is it called, because of course I stayed.
[47:08] He felt bad that there was no cohabitation of anything in a room. I
[47:12] cover mouths and face all the time making it food. For him, you
[47:16] know. We spent Christmas, it was the worst Christmas, but the best
[47:22] Christmas, because we sent or prepared food. He never left the room,
[47:30] but we spent Christmas on video call. He' s hiding in one room
[47:32] and I' m hiding in another. And that' s when I said
[47:37] we' re going, because the candle doesn' t turn off. A
[47:44] few months went by and he ended up leaving me what it was like.
[47:49] I had a strong argument with his sister over a situation and he grabbed from
[47:53] there as an easy excuse, a date where that sister found out I had
[48:00] done things about her. We never had a dumbbell like that. He was
[48:06] a very difficult person. It' s not the people who have the lack
[48:13] of what they lost and because they' re dealing with money, you give
[48:16] them everything and then, maybe sometimes it doesn' t work and I thought
[48:23] I deserved everything or demand everything I could. I had a strong situation with
[48:27] her from an argument and he didn' t think so and he grabbed it
[48:30] from there. Now I believe it to end, the relationship was very strong.
[48:37] I had just come back out of a hospital that was about that for
[48:42] this time and it ended the way it was less. I figured it was
[48:47] going to end up with a third, but it was the easiest excuse to
[48:54] be able to do what. He told you that he had gotten me into
[48:57] what he wanted most in his life, that he was his sister, that
[49:00] the relationship was very worn out, that the easiest thing was to end.
[49:08] That' s how it went and it ended the weirdest way. It was
[49:19] too strong for me. He took the bags. I didn' t walk
[49:25] out the small door, I mean through the back door, in my clothes
[49:30] and my things and my little dog. You left Yes, it was his
[49:34] house. I left, I left. It' s over after how many
[49:44] years, six, six, years, six, seven, I don'
[49:47] t remember, what do you know about him any good, yeah, like
[49:55] the month I left the house and this was over my mom. But this
[50:00] I found out months later. My mom talked to him because I didn'
[50:04] t know my mom had promised him in the hospital, in the operation,
[50:08] where I had a good chance he wouldn' t come out. All right,
[50:14] my mom said. I do, I know everything, I know she
[50:15] was unfaithful. I know this, this and this are all the problems they
[50:19] have if you can' t be with him anymore. Here' s the
[50:22] exit key. I give it to you as his mother, because I no
[50:27] longer want pain for my son and I love you too. Then no,
[50:35] and he decided to stay. I didn' t know that. That'
[50:38] s your mother. My mother smelled at him. My mother did everything she
[50:43] did for love, maybe me for fixing a situation, for support. I
[50:49] don' t know how much time he talked to him. They met,
[50:52] I think somewhere to talk and my mom clearly claimed him. He told me
[50:57] you' re a liar. This to me what happened is over, but
[51:00] to me you' re a liar. And what you did was the easiest
[51:02] excuse you could make. They didn' t try to talk. I don
[51:06] ' t think there was such a nice dialogue. And that' s when
[51:10] I realized the kind of people I was because my mother was the biggest pain
[51:17] in the world. He dared to tell him that he always thought that I
[51:23] had never been infected and even that the one who had infected him had been
[51:31] me and my mother. The only thing he told me he said is if
[51:34] that leaves you alone and lets you live is fine. I haven' t
[51:39] heard anything from all this time. Nothing. This would give you what you
[51:52] want if you' d asked me that still last year. Yeah, one
[51:58] of the strongest questions my psychologist asked me one day was why you don'
[52:06] t close the cycle, because you can' t, you won' t
[52:09] let go. He told me I' m going for coffee, I'
[52:15] m going out for coffee. Here, Ahorita, spend a few minutes and
[52:20] think well with your heart. I want you to answer that. There are
[52:22] no lies here and I stayed in the chair thinking, thinking and thinking until
[52:30] I said I don' t want to let go. It' s the
[52:38] last thing I have on him, the pain. Sometimes all we have left
[52:43] of the person is pain. And that pain also makes us have them,
[52:51] but it was killing me. I alone was left with love, I was
[52:55] left with pain. I went crazy. I was fighting with the hebrierdad and
[53:00] against, against the amano. How they left me. You know a friend.
[53:09] I once wondered what I thought the duel was. And for mourning is
[53:15] love that has nowhere else to go. You know where you put it,
[53:19] that' s your duel, that' s where you put all that love.
[53:21] Now I had a home, a family. I had. He cost
[53:29] me a lot every night, asked me to dial and tell me I can
[53:35] ' t either. A year. I cried, I cried every night until
[53:51] your tears came to an end and then I understood. I didn' t
[53:57] say then he never wanted me but if it wasn' t for you or
[54:01] even ask how I' m in health. He never loved me I don
[54:06] ' t know. It' s too late to know today. What I
[54:10] do know is that I loved with my eyes closed. I saw the love
[54:19] that my parents taught me to give and today fought because that child, Rodrigo,
[54:29] I told you at the beginning of when I met him in the hospital,
[54:32] when I could return for my treatment, that my parents went every time
[54:36] for him, but I could not go I found out that Rodrigo had died
[54:44] and I promised Rodrigo that I would fight everything that he could not fight.
[54:50] He left me a little box with some chocolate, with a little note that
[54:54] I said I couldn' t, but you have to make it, and
[55:00] I' m taking it here. He' s my angel, he'
[55:02] s my protector and all I' ve ever wanted is and what he'
[55:07] s taken me from is the love of all my people, my friends,
[55:13] my best friends, my parents, my sister, my little dogs and more
[55:17] and more people come into my life that teaches me so much and now I
[55:23] understand why the universe takes you away from there. If you don' t
[55:25] understand, the universe and energy will come and everything will get you out of
[55:29] where you don' t have to be. I have a happy family.
[55:31] I have a family that supports me, who knows my illness. Friends who
[55:35] know my illness, people who know my illness. You know, today I
[55:39] ' m not afraid of anything, of my illness or of him finding out,
[55:45] of this or of the other. I have as strengthened as I have
[55:51] fought and how I have gone out and how I have been able to with
[55:54] the love of my whole family. You know. With every first of December
[56:00] I remember a phrase that I was told and I have it tattooed in my
[56:04] heart. If you want to know what love is? Ask a person with
[56:07] HIV and that' s my mission now with me. My friends started to
[56:15] investigate and understand and the preb and then without more care, if a chain
[56:20] of information has been made with mine and I hope it transcends more people and
[56:24] they see that having HIV, it' s nice. You' re also
[56:32] no different, you' re much more, you' re a burden,
[56:37] a yarn of love. Sometimes I think there are people who move forward in
[56:46] pain but come to teach it to everyone else. Everything nice out there.
[56:51] And the duel hurts, the grief hurts, and if you get over it
[57:00] in a healthy way, the duel won' t mean you won' t
[57:06] have a trauma, and the trauma is to see your relationships in a way
[57:13] with a dark glass. If you get over a deal in a healthy way,
[57:16] you don' t have the trauma left. The traumas are, in
[57:19] the end, dark glasses that are going to have your future. And now
[57:23] my question, when I give without looking for a love relationship with another person,
[57:37] you' re going to give yourself back to 100%, give me
[57:39] 100% in a very different way. I think loving isn' t giving
[57:47] everything anymore. To love is only you know to call first. Now I
[57:54] understand that so much. You know self- love. I did all that
[58:01] too because maybe I didn' t have self- love and today I know
[58:08] how much self- love. Echo. I' ve been out of that
[58:10] relationship for two years. Or it' s going to be two years,
[58:17] but I worked two years getting back up to the allo sometimes I miss that
[58:25] halo that I' m no longer. But now I am a new one,
[58:31] a renewed one, one with so much love that I did not discover
[58:37] from his family someone proud of him, proud that I have come forward,
[58:42] proud that until today I have carried fifteen hospitalizations and I have made progress.
[58:45] Proud that I have a job. Proud that I have family, friends,
[58:50] people who are with me and you' re a better version of you and
[58:58] I' m a better way to love. You' re already going to
[59:00] be better and healthier, because as soon as that moment when you didn'
[59:06] t notice an intimacy or apart from your partner, now you' d talk
[59:10] about it yes or yes, then we' re going to do something so
[59:15] that people will also have some learnings that they can bring here to the table.
[59:19] First of all, there' s something we have to understand that a
[59:22] person who has HIV doesn' t necessarily have AIDS h right now. What
[59:29] you tell yourself is that you have the virus in your body and now the
[59:34] current drugs can carry that virus, that viral load in an undetectable way to
[59:39] the point that you can have sex, because you have made it intransmissible last
[59:46] and you do not transmit it to your person, to the couple, the
[59:52] disease, the HIV. Let' s talk about it like that. That
[59:54] ' s HIV. So, if you' re with a couple who have
[1:00:01] h which is that maybe it' s not detectable or it' s in
[1:00:05] that area of doubt, you have to take a treatment called pret which is
[1:00:10] a treatment to prevent, to prevent. What helps is, as we say,
[1:00:16] it does the effect of a pill that is used to prevent pregnancy.
[1:00:25] Let' s explain it like this with pears and apples and forgive me the
[1:00:30] writings in the background. What the prepa does is an exact antiretroviral and what
[1:00:34] you do when a single virus comes in, there' s a virus or
[1:00:37] two or three lost out there immediately attack it in such a way that they
[1:00:43] don' t let the system into your system. So, if you have
[1:00:45] a risk relationship, immediately go to a center to get it if you'
[1:00:52] re a bio- action victim, also because you can prevent transmission. Then
[1:01:00] what' s next. Once, what the virus does is it hits you
[1:01:05] in two ways. It makes that virus go up and that' s called
[1:01:12] viral load. When you have a very high viral load, it' s
[1:01:15] very dangerous, but it also impacts your defenses, and those are CDs four.
[1:01:22] So, if you give up four, it' s very low.
[1:01:25] Your defense is very weak and any disease can kill you exactly then. There
[1:01:34] are always those two parameters. Viral loading and CD four are the terms spoken
[1:01:39] by people who are HIV positive or people who already suffer from chida. There
[1:01:47] are certain diseases within HIV that occur more and that are called infections or opportunistic
[1:01:54] diseases. We' re talking about tuberculosis. We' re talking for a
[1:02:00] while can cancer, which is caposi sarcoma. I think it' s we
[1:02:07] ' re talking about other filis if other types of diseases can even give you
[1:02:15] herpes, because because your immune system gives you four, it' s very
[1:02:22] low exactly then. If a person who knows he or she is HIV positive
[1:02:27] controls the viral load to undetectable and then happens four, his or her immune
[1:02:32] system is strong. It' s a person. The only thing you have
[1:02:35] to be is more aware of your health exactly or your health and understand that
[1:02:42] this, if you really take care of yourself, can be a chronic,
[1:02:50] chronic condition for life. But you have to take care of yourself, take
[1:02:54] care of yourself, and I think the most correct message is how much you
[1:02:59] love yourself. You love yourself and how much you love yourself to take care
[1:03:02] of your body, have the healthiest relationship or the world, How much you
[1:03:07] love yourself and how much your health is worth. Sure and now let'
[1:03:09] s go now. The last part of me is a reflection. I do,
[1:03:13] do they want much? I do think they wanted a lot? I
[1:03:16] do think they missed talking to you a lot at first having a talk about
[1:03:23] me I love you crazy, but you can know at what point you think
[1:03:30] you got it. You got it because, maybe, if I told you
[1:03:35] six years ago, you could have asked him six years before I knew you.
[1:03:40] Well, maybe you have to talk to those people who had intimate relationships,
[1:03:44] because to also inform them and save their lives, you communicate to someone
[1:03:51] who is positive vih is the re option to be alive. This is very
[1:03:58] important. You have to tell him, and in your case, I think
[1:04:02] he' s left that doubt. When a person is insecure, it is
[1:04:09] enough that it is like when a person who suffered an infidelity and did not
[1:04:14] mourn it in a natural or healthy way, it passes it to another traumatically.
[1:04:19] So, as soon as they see an ugly look, I already sound
[1:04:23] like it' s, short, I run away and then he' s
[1:04:30] that episode where you had an intimate complicity relationship with someone else. He didn
[1:04:35] ' t get on, he didn' t get over it and you didn
[1:04:41] ' t talk about it and you didn' t face it and you didn
[1:04:44] ' t tell him. Let' s talk about this. I need to
[1:04:45] talk it over. I need you to know that I didn' t just
[1:04:50] do it wrong, but I realized how much I loved you. There wasn
[1:04:54] ' t that talk. Infidelity is not the end of a relationship. One
[1:04:59] infidelity can detect, it can be the pretext to detect gaps in the relationship,
[1:05:06] conflicts, in the relationship needs in the relationship that yes infidelity hurts,
[1:05:12] yes, but from one infidelity can emerge another. Let' s say a
[1:05:19] second part of the stronger relationship. Yes, in the long run you regain
[1:05:29] confidence and that was perhaps a very big problem in us. But, well,
[1:05:36] today only me, all I hope is that he' s okay.
[1:05:42] I' m very well too, and nothing to love is very nice and
[1:05:50] to thank. Which hospital they treated you at. They treated me good in
[1:05:55] clinic from the beginning thanks to all the people who are all the people who
[1:06:01] are in the clinic countess, all the personnel involved. What a humane people
[1:06:06] to all the clinics. Yes, the capacits, the capable ones, are
[1:06:12] the clinics outside Mexico City that provide the same care or support as the clinic
[1:06:16] countess does. Where' s that surgeon that' s your surgeon? That
[1:06:26] doctor is my little angel. What' s Dr Nofal' s name,
[1:06:30] not which hospital he' s in satellite hospitals, he' s in one
[1:06:34] that' s called a multi- medical and he' s an internist wonder,
[1:06:39] wonderful. Thanks, thanks to me. I think here we say goodbye
[1:06:42] by thanking and thanking you because your purpose of life has changed and your goal
[1:06:47] is to change lives. A painful situation, you' ve converted it,
[1:06:54] you' ve reinvented it into something that can help other people. And I
[1:06:58] want to dedicate this last little move to you texting your parents. What your
[1:07:04] parents are called Edward and Laura, and only what I can tell you with
[1:07:11] all the love Bamba and Mom are the angels bigger than life. I can
[1:07:17] give myself and I am not what I am now, but your life.
[1:07:24] The love of all of you. I love them very much and thank you
[1:07:31] for continuing to push me and be my soldiers to keep it moving forward and
[1:07:36] thanks to you, thanks to Lalo, and for the halo to keep changing
[1:07:45] and saving life, so, with the help of many more people, the
[1:07:48] messages of love come and it is only to take care of you and live
[1:07:56] your beautiful life is not asked anymore. And if you love unscathed, you
[1:08:08] like this testimony. You think I can help someone share it with you.
[1:08:13] Don' t forget to click on my social networks, which are Silvia Olmedo
[1:08:17] for YouTube, Silvia Olmedo for Instagram and Silvia Olmedo official for Facebook, which
[1:08:25] remembers that, before judging to tag a person, try to understand why faces
[1:08:30] we see suffering. We don' t know.

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