# Melvin Gregg & Jasper Dolphin: Jay-Z vs Drake, The True Meaning of "Woke" and Fatherhood

An episode of [The Shop](https://invisiblenetwork.ai/podcast/1612191065), 22 Jun 2026, 44 min.

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The Shop is back with a brand-new look and brand-new hosts. This week, Steelo Brim and Travis Bennett are joined by actor Melvin Gregg and actor Jasper Dolphin for a conversation about everything from Serena Williams' return from retirement to how James Bond would be different if he were played by a Black actor. The group also discusses what it means to age in the world of Hip Hop, the surprising intelligence of pigeons, and why Vin Diesel should play the lead role in an LL Cool J biopic (once Travis writes the script of course). (0:00) - Intro (2:40) - Taco on what he’s been watching lately (4:55) - Jasper Dolphin and Melvin Gregg join the show (7:30) - Why casting is so important in movies (10:08) - Should Black actors be casted for white roles? (14:00) - Melvin on why biopics should be played by actors of the same origin (19:23) - How being a father has shaped Steelo and Melvin (21:11) - The best advice for future fathers (23:30) - Jasper on working with his dad (27:10) - The crew discusses legendary athlete and entertainers comebacks (33:05) - The double standard of being true to yourself (34:19) - Which song best describes Black music? (39:10) - Favorite Black soundtrack? (41:39) - What are the crew's ultimate career end goals? See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

## Transcript

[0:01] Speaker 1: Yeah, I love that. You don't know the word when
[0:06] Speaker 1: you move like this black.
[0:09] Speaker 2: There is a part of rap that is a young
[0:11] Speaker 2: man's sport.
[0:12] Speaker 1: Athletes or rappers.
[0:13] Speaker 3: You're getting the game and they'll say, oh sometime that
[0:15] Speaker 3: person never grows up and end up being the same
[0:17] Speaker 3: age they first got on that.
[0:19] Speaker 4: I'm not like on something like they gotta remember what
[0:21] Speaker 4: idea like.
[0:23] Speaker 1: They won't. They're gonna be into what they like.
[0:25] Speaker 3: That.
[0:28] Speaker 5: You don't understand love until you really actuate, like it's
[0:31] Speaker 5: different levels of love.
[0:32] Speaker 3: Pisions don't really make sense to me. You know, you
[0:34] Speaker 3: ain't never saying baby vision at all. You just see
[0:36] Speaker 3: like adult pigeons, they're not real and they're not real.
[0:39] Speaker 5: If they made James Bond black, the whole script is
[0:43] Speaker 5: gonna be about him being black. He's gonna be getting
[0:45] Speaker 5: pulled over by.
[0:46] Speaker 2: White Welcome to the Shop. I'm Travis Taco Bennett. I
[0:56] Speaker 2: am Steve O Brim and we are the new host
[0:58] Speaker 2: of the shop.
[0:59] Speaker 1: It's good for us, right, that's great? Yeah, claim, Hey, everybody, class,
[1:04] Speaker 1: let's do it. You guys know why we're here.
[1:08] Speaker 3: You know you guys complain to We listened our community
[1:11] Speaker 3: and our whole our team is very important to us.
[1:14] Speaker 3: What you guys say is very important to us. And
[1:15] Speaker 3: you guys said that the last host of the shop
[1:17] Speaker 3: were horrible and you guys wanted to get them out
[1:19] Speaker 3: of here.
[1:19] Speaker 1: Yeah, you guys.
[1:20] Speaker 2: You guys said Lebron wasn't great.
[1:22] Speaker 3: Lebron wasn't great, That bad, wasn't They said Mad was
[1:25] Speaker 3: the worst one. No, they said what was the third
[1:28] Speaker 3: guy's name?
[1:29] Speaker 1: And I was like, that was pretty just crazy. It's
[1:30] Speaker 1: pr just cause.
[1:31] Speaker 2: Remember but even along with all these things, there's never
[1:35] Speaker 2: gonna be a barber here. Understand that, people, It's okay,
[1:39] Speaker 2: what was the guy's name? Tweet? I think his name
[1:40] Speaker 2: was like Ovo Gerald?
[1:42] Speaker 1: Oh, Vio Jerald.
[1:43] Speaker 2: Totally fine, O yo Gerald. Understand there is gonna be
[1:46] Speaker 2: no barber here because I'm not gonna get a hair
[1:47] Speaker 2: cut in front of you. Yeah, you don't know how
[1:49] Speaker 2: vulnerable I feel when I get a haircut.
[1:51] Speaker 1: It's a distraction.
[1:52] Speaker 2: Well not even that.
[1:53] Speaker 1: Bro turning around the whole time trying to talk to
[1:55] Speaker 1: him and us. It was a little weird.
[1:57] Speaker 2: Yeah, Valid. I also don't get razor lineups because I
[2:00] Speaker 2: got sensitive skin.
[2:01] Speaker 1: Okay, we need to hear that you did. It was
[2:04] Speaker 1: very important.
[2:06] Speaker 2: I want to talk about something I went through recently.
[2:08] Speaker 2: I started watching something that I think is really important
[2:12] Speaker 2: to watch. There's a show on White Crime. It's kind
[2:15] Speaker 2: of like The Sopranos, but it's just like based in LA.
[2:17] Speaker 2: It's called The OC.
[2:18] Speaker 1: This is new, it's old.
[2:20] Speaker 2: They came out in two thousand and four, but every
[2:22] Speaker 2: scene in it is perfect. Every time some Mike gets
[2:25] Speaker 2: mad about something, they like do the most dramatic turns
[2:27] Speaker 2: I've ever seen. There's a moment where this guy like
[2:30] Speaker 2: meets a girl. He's smoking a cigarette. He's like, she's
[2:34] Speaker 2: like he knew around her. He's like, yeah, my mom
[2:36] Speaker 2: hates me.
[2:39] Speaker 1: Very Californian. I've never seen it.
[2:41] Speaker 2: Don't do that.
[2:41] Speaker 1: No, I mean it is. Have you ever seen the
[2:43] Speaker 1: SNL like sketch of Californians?
[2:46] Speaker 2: Is it like that?
[2:46] Speaker 1: Like mom, No, it's not that not just right? Oh no, no,
[2:50] Speaker 1: it's not that, bro, It's more like Valley. It's more
[2:54] Speaker 1: like the Valley.
[2:55] Speaker 3: Yeah, like where you Okay, just dropped my shirt out there.
[3:00] Speaker 3: I've never seen OC. I don't watch shows with like
[3:03] Speaker 3: all white people normally.
[3:05] Speaker 2: I think that's so you never seen friends, No hell
[3:08] Speaker 2: and no Seinfeld.
[3:09] Speaker 3: I've seen like an episode the Simpsons. The Simpsons are
[3:12] Speaker 3: that they've been drawn like, that's different.
[3:14] Speaker 1: I could do that Family Guy.
[3:16] Speaker 3: Family Guy's cool again, you're bringing animated white So that
[3:19] Speaker 3: was a cool, uh fantasy factory.
[3:21] Speaker 1: I was there, I became and Big Black was there.
[3:26] Speaker 1: You know what I mean?
[3:26] Speaker 2: I get it?
[3:27] Speaker 1: Yeah, you feel me All.
[3:28] Speaker 2: White cat now now you need to figure out what
[3:30] Speaker 2: all white cat?
[3:30] Speaker 4: Well.
[3:31] Speaker 1: The OC came on with Channel C. W Right, Yeah, yeah,
[3:34] Speaker 1: that used to be up N. I remember to pay Negros.
[3:37] Speaker 1: That was a whole different thing to be a black network.
[3:39] Speaker 2: It was.
[3:40] Speaker 3: It was great when it was up and Homeboys Out
[3:41] Speaker 3: of Space. They had one on one, they had a
[3:43] Speaker 3: whole bunch of shit, and they transitioned to Felicity Dawson.
[3:47] Speaker 2: Creek, Felicity bro See they did Austin's Creek.
[3:52] Speaker 1: You watched all of them. Look at you like, damn
[3:54] Speaker 1: those classics? Did you did you love? Today?
[4:03] Speaker 2: We're excited to have two guests, two friends, and I
[4:05] Speaker 2: think both of us. One is Melvin greg an amazing actor,
[4:09] Speaker 2: and the other one is Jash one of my best
[4:11] Speaker 2: friends who is an amazing at everything. He could do backflips.
[4:16] Speaker 2: I think that's the best thing.
[4:17] Speaker 1: Now he got to come back and I do a backflip. Okay,
[4:19] Speaker 1: it felt like you was why would you pitch that?
[4:21] Speaker 1: Though the back flip it was random. One is my
[4:24] Speaker 1: best friend, the homies the homies, and the other one.
[4:31] Speaker 2: Amazing b We.
[4:32] Speaker 5: Have a good story as we see which one is which.
[4:37] Speaker 1: Secret handshakes.
[4:41] Speaker 2: I want to start this by saying telling a story
[4:42] Speaker 2: about me and Melvin. I have too many stories with
[4:45] Speaker 2: this guy.
[4:45] Speaker 1: But Melvin.
[4:46] Speaker 2: One time I was on an audition. I got to
[4:47] Speaker 2: the audition, I do my audition, I leave the audition
[4:50] Speaker 2: is I walk out of the room, Melvin walks in
[4:52] Speaker 2: and I like him like I just like pause for
[4:55] Speaker 2: a second. I'm already out there. My turnaround and I say, hey, everybody, understand, guys,
[5:00] Speaker 2: Melvin came.
[5:01] Speaker 1: The role is not for anybody else. You guys can
[5:03] Speaker 1: all go home.
[5:04] Speaker 2: And I think that was like the worst thing.
[5:06] Speaker 1: You killed dreams on the way out, which is crazy.
[5:08] Speaker 5: No, I think it's different than what it sounds like.
[5:11] Speaker 5: It sounds like he's bigging me up, and I'm like,
[5:13] Speaker 5: oh my god, but it's really just putting pressure on me,
[5:15] Speaker 5: showing how charismatic he is and and I'm just like
[5:19] Speaker 5: they got high expectations that come in and being mad
[5:21] Speaker 5: and it's like missing an accomplished.
[5:26] Speaker 1: Ended up getting it.
[5:26] Speaker 2: They offered it to Damnsity told me.
[5:29] Speaker 1: Nothing like you ain't not worse all this and then
[5:32] Speaker 1: it gives it to a white guy. You give it?
[5:35] Speaker 5: I know two projects for sure, you booked over with me.
[5:38] Speaker 5: But do you Yeah, dear white people, and you did.
[5:43] Speaker 5: You was in the movie I'm Tripping People.
[5:46] Speaker 1: You're right, this was in that.
[5:50] Speaker 5: In the movie You People, and it was something else, Dave, Dave.
[5:56] Speaker 5: I think that you were amazing and thank you for
[5:58] Speaker 5: done for sure, but you got I mean, look at you, brother,
[6:04] Speaker 5: everything else.
[6:04] Speaker 2: Nigga and Jasper and me worked on Layders Squad together
[6:10] Speaker 2: and we went on tour together. I mean we started
[6:11] Speaker 2: touring when we were babies. Was yeah, sixteen seventeen seven, was.
[6:16] Speaker 4: About like nineteen twenty or something something like that. My
[6:20] Speaker 4: memory doesn't really work how I used to, but yeah,
[6:23] Speaker 4: we did tour. We had a TV show together and a.
[6:26] Speaker 2: Lot of fun Jackass, which I think is insane.
[6:29] Speaker 4: Yeah, I snuck into the Jackcast Jackass Cast, Jackass Jackass Castast.
[6:35] Speaker 1: I saw the movie too. It was really good. I
[6:37] Speaker 1: haven't seen it yet. You haven't seen it yet.
[6:39] Speaker 2: Now I've seen the.
[6:41] Speaker 1: End.
[6:42] Speaker 2: That's it. Honestly, you were ready.
[6:43] Speaker 1: Thank you probably my best.
[6:45] Speaker 2: I love that there's been a bunch of roles that
[6:47] Speaker 2: weren't meant for me, Like I don't know what character
[6:51] Speaker 2: is my archetype anymore. I think that's another thing I've lost.
[6:54] Speaker 2: It's like who am I supposed to be?
[6:56] Speaker 5: For them? I think casting is the most important thing.
[6:58] Speaker 5: I feel like, if you miss casting amazing actor, he's
[7:00] Speaker 5: gonna be bad. They cast an okay actor in a
[7:04] Speaker 5: perfect and the perfect role for him, and he could
[7:07] Speaker 5: be amazing. I think casting is so important.
[7:09] Speaker 1: You think a really good actor can be bad.
[7:12] Speaker 5: And yeah, you cast something. I think a lot of
[7:15] Speaker 5: people confuse acting with like being something completely different than
[7:20] Speaker 5: who you are. Yeah, so they want people to completely transform,
[7:24] Speaker 5: But that's not really what acting is in a sense,
[7:26] Speaker 5: you know what I mean. So I feel like, if
[7:28] Speaker 5: you get a great actor now, I feel like, but
[7:30] Speaker 5: if you could put a great actor in something that's
[7:32] Speaker 5: completely opposite of what he is, he's not gonna be
[7:35] Speaker 5: able to service that role as good as someone who's
[7:38] Speaker 5: closer to who that is.
[7:40] Speaker 3: I feel like I was saying, like, the really good
[7:42] Speaker 3: actors are great actors in like bad roles, and they've
[7:46] Speaker 3: still been like, oh, you tried to save this movie.
[7:49] Speaker 3: But I don't ever blame you on the actor. I
[7:50] Speaker 3: blame you on like the script and like the movie.
[7:54] Speaker 1: It's just not a good movie. This actor is still
[7:55] Speaker 1: good in this bad movie.
[7:57] Speaker 2: It goes both ways. I guess I'm not like a centiphile.
[8:00] Speaker 2: I think it sucks when I get into a conversation
[8:02] Speaker 2: with somebody and they're sitting the final They're like, what
[8:04] Speaker 2: do you know about this? I'm like, brother, I like Shrek.
[8:07] Speaker 1: Like I'm.
[8:09] Speaker 2: I'm talking about Shrek and Jackets. I really don't need
[8:13] Speaker 2: to know. Like, what's Citizen Kane? You gotta watch Citizen Kane.
[8:18] Speaker 2: I started watching. I was like, this is the most boring.
[8:22] Speaker 1: Exactly, you know, Okay, ever told you that Citizen Kane
[8:29] Speaker 1: I did?
[8:29] Speaker 5: I did with Kenya. I did The Kenya Barry Show
[8:33] Speaker 5: and Black and Black KF. And they kept talking about
[8:35] Speaker 5: Citizen Kane and a lot of other movies that I
[8:38] Speaker 5: didn't see, and the joke was about me not seeing
[8:40] Speaker 5: the movies. I'm like, oh yeah, I'm not either. Acting.
[8:42] Speaker 5: I don't know what none of this.
[8:44] Speaker 4: I'm bad with movies. There's a lot of movies I
[8:46] Speaker 4: haven't seen. People be talking about the conversations.
[8:48] Speaker 1: I just like I seen it. This sounds like a
[8:51] Speaker 1: good movie. I like that part. But I really late
[8:55] Speaker 1: to movies.
[8:55] Speaker 5: I don't go to the movie theaters that often.
[8:57] Speaker 1: And I seem to watch Dexter.
[9:00] Speaker 4: Over and over again for some reason, and I don't
[9:02] Speaker 4: know why.
[9:03] Speaker 5: Yes, TV show, I don't know why.
[9:07] Speaker 3: How do you How do y'all feel about when a
[9:11] Speaker 3: black person is casting for a role that was historically white?
[9:14] Speaker 1: Does that bother y'all are like, like.
[9:17] Speaker 2: If they had a black Superman or.
[9:20] Speaker 3: Was saying that actually James Bond, he said that he
[9:23] Speaker 3: doesn't think any black actor should play James Bond.
[9:26] Speaker 1: I got my own take on this, but I won't
[9:28] Speaker 1: help with y'all thinking, hmm, I don't even care for
[9:31] Speaker 1: James Bond.
[9:32] Speaker 4: They complained whatever, but I told you saying though, like
[9:36] Speaker 4: because his character is a white guy. Same thing where
[9:39] Speaker 4: how they made black Spider Man and the whites didn't
[9:42] Speaker 4: really like that.
[9:44] Speaker 1: Him down.
[9:45] Speaker 4: Yes, he's doing great, he's doing great, but there's a
[9:48] Speaker 4: lot of hate on it, like I think.
[9:50] Speaker 5: I think it's the difference is Malas Morales?
[9:54] Speaker 2: Is it?
[9:55] Speaker 5: Peter Parker? Yeah, you know what I mean, person that
[9:58] Speaker 5: got bit by. I feel like that Spider ain't just
[10:00] Speaker 5: bite one person like I'm done, I just biting hell.
[10:07] Speaker 5: I don't know what.
[10:10] Speaker 2: I know.
[10:10] Speaker 1: You're saying this right now.
[10:11] Speaker 2: It's like a revelation.
[10:13] Speaker 5: Oh my god, you know that the whole Spider verse
[10:15] Speaker 5: because got.
[10:16] Speaker 4: Bit I feel on that because James Bond, like he's
[10:18] Speaker 4: a British white guy like it is.
[10:21] Speaker 5: I say, give him a different name. Who cares if
[10:24] Speaker 5: it's like James Bond and Jimmy Brow.
[10:27] Speaker 2: The whole story is about a guy named James Branchise.
[10:30] Speaker 2: That's like giving a two man different name. It's like
[10:32] Speaker 2: his name is a Clark k is like Jenny Smith.
[10:34] Speaker 5: You're like Superman is weird.
[10:35] Speaker 1: First off, he's not even white. He's like, that's another thing.
[10:39] Speaker 4: But this alien coss playing a white man on Earth.
[10:43] Speaker 1: That's a fact. There's a lot of what else would
[10:45] Speaker 1: you go play? Though? I play like a nigga. Just
[10:52] Speaker 1: be arrested. Idea break for me.
[11:01] Speaker 3: My whole thing is I feel like the roles are
[11:04] Speaker 3: like when people get so mad about like a black
[11:06] Speaker 3: person playing this white character, so to speak.
[11:09] Speaker 1: I always feel like it's a fucking fictional character. It's
[11:12] Speaker 1: a fake person. They drew that way anyway, they made
[11:15] Speaker 1: this person up. Like I don't have a problem with
[11:18] Speaker 1: you making up that a black person is down playing it,
[11:20] Speaker 1: Like what difference does it make. I'm just saying, like.
[11:22] Speaker 3: James Bond being British, there are British black people. I
[11:25] Speaker 3: didn't like Idris though, saying like, oh, I don't think
[11:28] Speaker 3: no black person should get it.
[11:29] Speaker 1: I feel like theyre trying to throw a bomb in
[11:30] Speaker 1: the room before you walked down. He was make sure
[11:34] Speaker 1: when don't get it. In my head, it's like, hey,
[11:40] Speaker 1: let them get the role, like let them bite for.
[11:44] Speaker 4: Mission when it's not a real person, Like it shouldn't
[11:48] Speaker 4: matter because especially if it's like if the creator want
[11:51] Speaker 4: to change it up, let him do what you want.
[11:52] Speaker 4: It's his goddamn thing.
[11:53] Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. I agree.
[11:55] Speaker 2: I mean, white people do it with actual people all
[11:57] Speaker 2: the time.
[11:59] Speaker 5: John Wayne plays gangs. Con Listen, they'll played clear Patrick
[12:05] Speaker 5: like they're not white people.
[12:06] Speaker 1: Fellow last Samurai a Mexican.
[12:13] Speaker 5: And Prince of Persia.
[12:15] Speaker 1: I know Prince of person, Prince of Persia. Yeah, it's
[12:22] Speaker 1: a whole bunch of that. But I feel like they
[12:24] Speaker 1: do it with actual historical people. It's the whitewashing of history. Right,
[12:29] Speaker 1: I'll take a real black person and make them white,
[12:31] Speaker 1: versus you're then fighting and arguing over if a fake
[12:35] Speaker 1: white person should be black. That's sucking crazy.
[12:37] Speaker 2: Who played Jesus Christ in The Passion?
[12:39] Speaker 1: Nigga? Not a nigga say that much?
[12:41] Speaker 5: Did not have Like that's that's the way it should
[12:46] Speaker 5: make black, right, is anybody? They did do black Jesus
[12:49] Speaker 5: with sleep.
[12:49] Speaker 1: But then we made it a jokes. Probably show the
[12:58] Speaker 1: show bro.
[13:00] Speaker 2: It's important, I think, Like now, I don't know if
[13:03] Speaker 2: it's as important, but it's like biopics need to.
[13:06] Speaker 5: Be played by people of that biopicks for sure, Like
[13:10] Speaker 5: a white person played me in twenty years.
[13:12] Speaker 1: Oh you mean even like that, you know it's played.
[13:14] Speaker 1: I don't.
[13:14] Speaker 2: I mean, obviously, Jennifer love Is does a great job.
[13:16] Speaker 2: But that was a huge thing at the time. From
[13:18] Speaker 2: what I mean, I wasn't alive, but I remember hearing
[13:20] Speaker 2: that that was like a big issue that she was
[13:22] Speaker 2: not Mexican.
[13:23] Speaker 1: Yeah, it was. I thought she was different.
[13:26] Speaker 5: I don't really know the specifics between like Hispanic and Latino,
[13:31] Speaker 5: and the difference isn't I think she looked apart, you
[13:34] Speaker 5: know what I mean.
[13:35] Speaker 1: But I mean at the time it was like ninety six,
[13:38] Speaker 1: they weren't.
[13:40] Speaker 5: I have a question Mexican is nationality in the sense
[13:43] Speaker 5: because if we go on nationality, then there's a situation
[13:46] Speaker 5: where Bridge playing Americans because we have different nationalities although
[13:50] Speaker 5: we derived from the same people.
[13:53] Speaker 1: I agree with that. I think people which I said, I.
[13:55] Speaker 5: Don't have a problem. I don't have a problem with it,
[13:56] Speaker 5: but I feel like it's in the same it's in
[13:58] Speaker 5: the same wiehowsness.
[14:00] Speaker 4: They did a movie about Obama and they had a
[14:02] Speaker 4: Jamaican play it would that be.
[14:03] Speaker 5: Kind of week? That's fine. They just played Bob Marley
[14:09] Speaker 5: also played Obama. Kingsley Benneteer just played Obama's issue Obama movie. Yeah.
[14:14] Speaker 5: I don't know what happened with it, but yeah, he.
[14:17] Speaker 1: Went out for us. We need want black people playing
[14:22] Speaker 1: British roles. We need right there exactly getting Black Americans
[14:25] Speaker 1: playing British British rolls out there top Boy or something.
[14:28] Speaker 1: I don't know.
[14:29] Speaker 4: Most of their shows don't even make it over anyway. Damn,
[14:31] Speaker 4: I might want to hear that ship. I mean me,
[14:34] Speaker 4: but I can't watch I cannot watch shows with a
[14:37] Speaker 4: heavy accent.
[14:38] Speaker 1: Like I was watching who was That?
[14:40] Speaker 4: The Black Mirror Show, and I happened to be on
[14:44] Speaker 4: Mushrooms and we watched, like, I know, like an hour
[14:47] Speaker 4: in and I'm just like sitting in the room. I'm like,
[14:49] Speaker 4: why the fuck are you watching this show with no
[14:51] Speaker 4: English in it?
[14:53] Speaker 1: I can't do it.
[14:56] Speaker 5: That's the original English, the music, the words a.
[15:02] Speaker 4: Little bit and I was like, this is not English
[15:03] Speaker 4: at all, and it was like, bro, this is a
[15:05] Speaker 4: heavy action had a lock in. I was like, oh, ship,
[15:07] Speaker 4: I am somewhere else right, Well.
[15:09] Speaker 2: Then you gotta think like I think like Damnson and
[15:11] Speaker 2: Snowfall or Idris in the Wire were amazing.
[15:15] Speaker 1: They were amazing because it was just amazing.
[15:18] Speaker 2: But that's like giving the role to the that's casting
[15:20] Speaker 2: wing to the best person.
[15:21] Speaker 1: Jennifer Lopez was great and Selina too, but I wonder
[15:24] Speaker 1: who she was up against. Well that's my point is
[15:26] Speaker 1: that I don't.
[15:26] Speaker 2: I guess we'll never know who everybody. That's what we
[15:28] Speaker 2: need to know is who lost the role, who didn't
[15:31] Speaker 2: get it so I could be.
[15:32] Speaker 3: Mad, or I could be happy but interested. He didn't
[15:34] Speaker 3: want them to make the James bond Row woke. He
[15:36] Speaker 3: said he didn't want to.
[15:37] Speaker 1: Make it too woke.
[15:38] Speaker 3: First I hear black people say, well, first of all,
[15:41] Speaker 3: like that I took it away from us a very
[15:43] Speaker 3: white wing.
[15:44] Speaker 5: Like they weaponize our terms, witch it up woke now
[15:48] Speaker 5: all of a sudden.
[15:49] Speaker 1: That's because the Western music.
[15:52] Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying. They were like we was like,
[15:55] Speaker 2: was like ship something else? Was it?
[15:59] Speaker 1: For sure?
[15:59] Speaker 2: It was they woke.
[16:01] Speaker 5: They're very specific with their terminologies because they're doing it
[16:04] Speaker 5: with culture now, like if they coachure, yeah, they're like, oh,
[16:07] Speaker 5: that's culture. Like if black people are doing something, I've
[16:10] Speaker 5: seen it, like it's culture. I'm not.
[16:13] Speaker 3: I'm just I know he is British, but I'm more
[16:15] Speaker 3: saying like, yeah, saying that, don't make the role woke.
[16:19] Speaker 1: It just says to me, don't. Yeah, he's just saying, okay,
[16:22] Speaker 1: give it to a black person.
[16:23] Speaker 5: No, no, no, to be devil's advocate, the devil's advocate.
[16:26] Speaker 5: I don't know what his intentions were, but I know
[16:27] Speaker 5: how things could be taken out of context. He may
[16:30] Speaker 5: mean that he may mean that if they make James
[16:33] Speaker 5: Bond black, the whole script is going to be about
[16:36] Speaker 5: him being black. He's gonna be getting pulled over by white.
[16:43] Speaker 1: They don't just make ship black and it be black.
[16:45] Speaker 5: Then they start inputting all of the different I don't
[16:48] Speaker 5: want to say woke, but addressing him being black in
[16:52] Speaker 5: a white space, Yeah, to excess excessively.
[16:56] Speaker 4: Do you guys watched the Aladdin movie, like the real one,
[16:58] Speaker 4: they had Will Smith as the genie.
[17:00] Speaker 1: You ain't like Will Smith as a genie.
[17:02] Speaker 4: He was called a genie, but they need we get
[17:05] Speaker 4: They threw in like like rap songs in there a
[17:08] Speaker 4: little bit like beat changed, Like imagine James Bond comes
[17:11] Speaker 4: out and the song has a little bit more drums
[17:13] Speaker 4: in it to make it more.
[17:13] Speaker 1: Nigga what he is.
[17:15] Speaker 5: And Will Smith is a rapper too, so like, how
[17:17] Speaker 5: do we utilize his rapping?
[17:21] Speaker 2: He wondered specialist like he's an actor. Now we would like,
[17:26] Speaker 2: at what point do you consider somebody to move Like
[17:29] Speaker 2: Joe Budden is a pod now is he a rapper?
[17:31] Speaker 5: I think he's multi hyghen it And if you look
[17:33] Speaker 5: at the history of a will a lot of times
[17:35] Speaker 5: his promotion of the film would be to make a
[17:38] Speaker 5: song that goes with the film and perform that song.
[17:40] Speaker 5: You think of men in black?
[17:42] Speaker 2: Wis that was the thing.
[17:45] Speaker 5: So there's like we're gonna.
[17:46] Speaker 1: Tap back into that, said me up. I'm like, do
[17:51] Speaker 1: you really think that?
[17:52] Speaker 5: I mean, he dropped the album not too he did.
[17:55] Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm an act man, starve an accent.
[18:03] Speaker 1: So us two over here.
[18:04] Speaker 2: We are not fathers. We have no children that we know.
[18:06] Speaker 2: If you have kids, no, no, no, no that we
[18:08] Speaker 2: know of.
[18:08] Speaker 1: It is always crazy.
[18:09] Speaker 2: Yeah, obviously I know.
[18:12] Speaker 5: Was running around with no dad.
[18:15] Speaker 1: You have two two boys?
[18:18] Speaker 2: Yeah, and you have one boy.
[18:20] Speaker 3: Yeah.
[18:21] Speaker 2: I texted you a few years ago on Father's Day.
[18:24] Speaker 1: Yeah.
[18:24] Speaker 2: I don't know if I somebody asked my phone. I'll
[18:26] Speaker 2: find it later. But I think I texted you just
[18:29] Speaker 2: like your son is not your biological kids. You raise
[18:31] Speaker 2: him like your own. And so I said, bro, like
[18:34] Speaker 2: the way that you are a father, the way that
[18:35] Speaker 2: you are there is like important and amazing. So I like,
[18:39] Speaker 2: I text all my homies on Father's Day. I feel
[18:40] Speaker 2: like that's super important to do to acknowledge that, because
[18:43] Speaker 2: I feel like the idea of a black father being
[18:46] Speaker 2: absent is not correct.
[18:47] Speaker 1: Always not not really at all like that, like that
[18:52] Speaker 1: like that. Yeah, but people of course to press push
[18:54] Speaker 1: us on that, push that on us.
[18:56] Speaker 3: But for me and taking care of him, it's like
[18:59] Speaker 3: it's my dad again, was a neighborhood that so it's like,
[19:02] Speaker 3: why would I watched him treat all the kids in
[19:04] Speaker 3: the neighborhood the same and he like would be there
[19:06] Speaker 3: for all in that way. So for me, it's more
[19:08] Speaker 3: about any little black child or any child in general
[19:11] Speaker 3: that I'm around in that aspect, I'm gonna try to
[19:13] Speaker 3: put something into them, like make sure that they can
[19:16] Speaker 3: leave with some but with him as easy though, really
[19:18] Speaker 3: good kid.
[19:19] Speaker 1: And that's like, you're a great dad too. I see
[19:21] Speaker 1: you online.
[19:22] Speaker 3: You don't really like promote it as being like a
[19:24] Speaker 3: great did versus You're just showing us you and your life.
[19:26] Speaker 1: And I can see naturally that your kids love you
[19:29] Speaker 1: in a way. Yeah, represent a great way.
[19:32] Speaker 5: I appreciate it. It's such a big part of my life.
[19:34] Speaker 5: If I'm going to post content, chances are it's gonna
[19:37] Speaker 5: be involved or else it's gonna be nothing for me
[19:39] Speaker 5: to post because that's pretty much my day to day.
[19:43] Speaker 5: It is my day to day most of the time
[19:46] Speaker 5: out of the day is for them, So that's beautiful.
[19:49] Speaker 2: What do you guys, what advice do you give to
[19:51] Speaker 2: non fathers like us? Like, I don't I'm not ready yet.
[19:56] Speaker 2: I know I'll be having a kid probably in the
[19:57] Speaker 2: next like two years. Yeah, but I am definitely scared. Like,
[20:00] Speaker 2: were you guys ready or were you? I mean I
[20:02] Speaker 2: guess you were. You met him when he was too damn.
[20:07] Speaker 2: Were you ready or were you?
[20:08] Speaker 5: Just like, I don't think you ever ready, cause you
[20:11] Speaker 5: don't really know what you get into and you got
[20:12] Speaker 5: to kind of acclimate to it as it happens, and
[20:15] Speaker 5: it changes so much like what you deal with with
[20:17] Speaker 5: a newborn is different than the tyler versus like me
[20:20] Speaker 5: compared to also like when they started growing up, So
[20:22] Speaker 5: you learn as you go. But I think I think
[20:27] Speaker 5: the biggest difference is not so much having a child,
[20:30] Speaker 5: is just like you prioritizing your life differently, you know
[20:34] Speaker 5: what I mean, Like you don't have time to just
[20:36] Speaker 5: kind of go out and chill and kick it, and
[20:37] Speaker 5: you probably don't want to anyone, you know what I mean,
[20:39] Speaker 5: because you feel like you got to commit so much
[20:40] Speaker 5: time to this child and you raise it, you create
[20:43] Speaker 5: a human and you're that humans leader and you have
[20:45] Speaker 5: to prepare them for the world. So like anytime off,
[20:48] Speaker 5: it's time that you could be committing into pouring into
[20:50] Speaker 5: this kid that you love more than anything. Like you
[20:53] Speaker 5: don't know a love, like you don't understand love until
[20:57] Speaker 5: you really at kids. Like it's different levels of love.
[20:59] Speaker 1: But like a kid is like a.
[21:03] Speaker 5: It's like a face first love with no no walls
[21:07] Speaker 5: or defense anything else. It's like, I'm gonna love it
[21:10] Speaker 5: with a little bit, but I got I got walls
[21:12] Speaker 5: up because this person can betray me, they can lie
[21:14] Speaker 5: to me, they can let me down. It's just human
[21:18] Speaker 5: nature to guard yourself. But with a kid is none
[21:20] Speaker 5: of that. It's just like all the face first, since
[21:23] Speaker 5: I love you more than anything, and it's uh, it's
[21:26] Speaker 5: rewarding for sure. That's beautiful.
[21:29] Speaker 2: It really is like he's being serious, sounded like that
[21:34] Speaker 2: it's beautiful. I'm like, I'm excited about it. I think
[21:40] Speaker 2: because of how I am with my father, and like
[21:42] Speaker 2: the older I get, the more we became friends and
[21:45] Speaker 2: it's still obviously the father's relationship, but there is moments
[21:47] Speaker 2: where I can have conversations with him that I wouldn't
[21:49] Speaker 2: have been able to as a younger, younger adult. And
[21:51] Speaker 2: now I'm like, I don't know, I want to give
[21:54] Speaker 2: my parents' grandkids. I feel like that's another thing I
[21:56] Speaker 2: think about. It is like having that and like I
[21:59] Speaker 2: know this niggas dad Hello, Well, like I've known him
[22:02] Speaker 2: for twenty years almost our fathers. No, I don't know
[22:05] Speaker 2: how explain it.
[22:06] Speaker 1: Like he works with his dad now he works just crazy.
[22:09] Speaker 4: Yeah, I got him a job.
[22:11] Speaker 1: I don't feel good though, Yeah, yeah, for sure.
[22:14] Speaker 4: And I'm saying he's a he's a handful to work with.
[22:18] Speaker 1: He's a crazy man. Love him to death.
[22:20] Speaker 4: He caused my phone too many times a day. But
[22:22] Speaker 4: other than that, like it's pretty cool working with him,
[22:25] Speaker 4: seeing him like in a different situation than like he
[22:28] Speaker 4: grew up in because my dad just like grew up
[22:30] Speaker 4: heavy into gang banging, like that whole culture and everything.
[22:33] Speaker 4: So seeing him around like white crazy people and just
[22:38] Speaker 4: white it is just always funny. Because when he first
[22:40] Speaker 4: they like, bring your dad like to like to shoot
[22:43] Speaker 4: with us, and I was like, I don't know if
[22:44] Speaker 4: he ready for this. Yeah, like this might be a
[22:46] Speaker 4: little bit too a stream like jackass like him, but
[22:50] Speaker 4: he fit in pretty well.
[22:51] Speaker 5: Actually, it's pretty crazy.
[22:52] Speaker 2: He flew with us to Hawaii one time. I went
[22:54] Speaker 2: to go film waters Squad. That's his first time on
[22:56] Speaker 2: a flane.
[22:57] Speaker 1: Oh shit, yeah, I will say that was.
[23:00] Speaker 2: We had some terrible turbulence. Oh really Yeah, in the
[23:04] Speaker 2: fear I had, I couldn't be fearful because I'm watching
[23:07] Speaker 2: someone else go through it. Bro, he was like, I
[23:09] Speaker 2: swear he choked somebody out.
[23:11] Speaker 4: Like he was like holding his seat from already like
[23:13] Speaker 4: this like tearing up crying.
[23:15] Speaker 2: He was crying.
[23:16] Speaker 1: Oh yeah, you don't crying. He's just saying water crazy,
[23:22] Speaker 1: like very bro.
[23:24] Speaker 2: This is not like like, yeah, it looks tough, so
[23:27] Speaker 2: you're like all right, sweating and crying bald.
[23:30] Speaker 5: It's just like, yeah, a lot by tough he is.
[23:37] Speaker 1: He cries a lot.
[23:38] Speaker 4: I've seen him cry, like maybe a couple of times
[23:40] Speaker 4: on ship that he shouldn't cry for.
[23:41] Speaker 1: That's beautiful him crying. Pigeon was too close to him.
[23:46] Speaker 5: Okay, he's very very afraid of birds.
[23:50] Speaker 1: Birds are kind of scary. What bird birds?
[23:55] Speaker 3: Pigeons don't really make sense to me. You know, you
[23:57] Speaker 3: ain't baby vision at all. You just see like adult pigeons.
[24:00] Speaker 3: They're not real, and they're not real.
[24:02] Speaker 1: Real, they're not real. I've been talking about this nest.
[24:05] Speaker 1: They're not real. Grow up first about a teens. Pigeons
[24:11] Speaker 1: are the.
[24:12] Speaker 2: Way they communicate, the way that they see the world
[24:14] Speaker 2: is through like a different less like they have some
[24:16] Speaker 2: magnetic field. I'm gonna get the conspiracy. Sorry, there's like
[24:19] Speaker 2: some magnetic field. They can see, like a different wavelength
[24:22] Speaker 2: that we can.
[24:23] Speaker 5: That's why it's the tribal pigeons because they can remember
[24:26] Speaker 5: where they are and I can send a pigeon to
[24:28] Speaker 5: your cret with a message. You send them back.
[24:34] Speaker 1: Don't like to do when you die, you gotta johnle
[24:37] Speaker 1: is doing this.
[24:39] Speaker 3: Yeah, people kind of pigeons though, trying to domesticate them
[24:42] Speaker 3: and give them jobs, and they.
[24:43] Speaker 1: Just trip them jobs away from them. Now they all
[24:46] Speaker 1: be walking around lost this ship.
[24:49] Speaker 5: Job.
[24:50] Speaker 1: They were liberated stuff. You're right.
[24:53] Speaker 5: Imagine somebody said that about black people. We said them
[24:55] Speaker 5: a job, yo, doing around. Don't know what to do
[24:59] Speaker 5: with it, nigga. The pigeons are liberated now. They they
[25:04] Speaker 5: put they work in and they just you know, booming
[25:07] Speaker 5: through life. Let the pigeons be man, you know what
[25:12] Speaker 5: pigeon could fly out for like two days straight.
[25:15] Speaker 1: Who told you that?
[25:17] Speaker 5: Or I've seen the fact my numbers fotty all like a.
[25:20] Speaker 2: Lot tells been in a lot of other even a
[25:23] Speaker 2: lot of other birds.
[25:24] Speaker 5: Yeah, you know, I'm all like a Scotch trait and man,
[25:26] Speaker 5: you're thirty six hours.
[25:33] Speaker 4: I'll be pissed if I was a pigeon because it's
[25:35] Speaker 4: like you a pigeon, but like your ancestors are.
[25:37] Speaker 2: Fucking dinosaurs, like this is where I came in.
[25:40] Speaker 1: I'm just like, I don't know, it's just it's kind
[25:44] Speaker 1: of messed up up.
[25:46] Speaker 2: Pigeons are pigeons. I have to ask you. That's another question.
[25:50] Speaker 2: What do you guys feel about comebacks? Like, for instance,
[25:55] Speaker 2: people retire like jay Z's retired a bunch of times
[25:57] Speaker 2: and came back. Serena Williams now is coming back to
[25:59] Speaker 2: do doubles after she's retired.
[26:01] Speaker 3: She's the greatest up, but she can still do it.
[26:03] Speaker 3: She her first doubles match they won. She won the
[26:06] Speaker 3: first doubles match. She said she might come back and
[26:08] Speaker 3: do singles too.
[26:09] Speaker 4: I think she can win Brave because por she's a
[26:12] Speaker 4: young man or young woman.
[26:13] Speaker 1: Gang for sure. The body Lebron's out there oh yeah,
[26:17] Speaker 1: but he's different.
[26:18] Speaker 5: That's an alien.
[26:19] Speaker 1: Serena's not different, Arena Willy.
[26:22] Speaker 4: I don't watch tennis, so I don't know honestly, because
[26:24] Speaker 4: he never stopped playing.
[26:25] Speaker 1: What I'm saying, Yeah, that's true.
[26:27] Speaker 5: My boy is crazy.
[26:28] Speaker 2: I know it's gonna sound crazy, but Lebron has never
[26:30] Speaker 2: burst a child. I think that's awesome important that.
[26:33] Speaker 3: Okay, all all our women following it up, y'all heard
[26:37] Speaker 3: it there first, all fourteen of y'all.
[26:41] Speaker 1: How old is she?
[26:42] Speaker 3: She?
[26:43] Speaker 5: And as old as Lebron?
[26:44] Speaker 1: She's probably forty one, right, forty.
[26:46] Speaker 2: Be older than Lebron's bro.
[26:47] Speaker 5: She was crip walking at the.
[26:50] Speaker 1: Like she was a dope. She was on a seawall.
[26:53] Speaker 1: Actually that was a seawall for.
[26:58] Speaker 2: There's a Track Star and Felix, Allison Felix. She said
[27:01] Speaker 2: she's doing it for her kids. I personally disagree.
[27:04] Speaker 1: I think I disagree. I don't know, why would you
[27:06] Speaker 1: want them to see you like this? Well?
[27:08] Speaker 4: No, no, no.
[27:09] Speaker 2: What I mean by that is, I think some people
[27:11] Speaker 2: like the light and they like the feeling of being
[27:13] Speaker 2: that person. So like Jay wants to retire, but man
[27:17] Speaker 2: does he love walking on stage and hearing that roar
[27:18] Speaker 2: from a crowd.
[27:19] Speaker 1: I think he hasn't retired for I mean four for
[27:21] Speaker 1: four he retired after I think.
[27:24] Speaker 2: Oh four, Mike came back to play for the Wizards
[27:27] Speaker 2: for what you had money. I think.
[27:28] Speaker 5: I think being like a poet and being an elite
[27:32] Speaker 5: athlete is different. There's a lot of timeline on your
[27:35] Speaker 5: your your intellect. You're just not a different perspective. So
[27:38] Speaker 5: it's something else I want to say, But like on
[27:40] Speaker 5: your body that's different. You see Mike Tyson fight Jake Paul,
[27:43] Speaker 5: like sometimes you just gotta it or not, like come on,
[27:49] Speaker 5: not gonna be the mic that he was.
[27:50] Speaker 1: He shouldn't be fighting Paul. He should be fighting Mike
[27:53] Speaker 1: Tyson age if he gonna be fighting. That's coming back
[27:57] Speaker 1: to race.
[27:57] Speaker 5: She's not racing fifty year olds, twenty young most elite,
[28:02] Speaker 5: not even a Jake Paul.
[28:04] Speaker 1: By the way, if she can win, if she wins,
[28:05] Speaker 1: she wins, it makes it elite. She's elite.
[28:07] Speaker 2: But then I think in the art form it's a
[28:09] Speaker 2: little different because you got somebody like a Bob Dylan
[28:11] Speaker 2: who's performing at eighty five years old. I went to
[28:12] Speaker 2: see ron Eisley at eighty years old.
[28:14] Speaker 1: Or form love that.
[28:15] Speaker 2: I don't know if I'll.
[28:16] Speaker 1: See jay Z at eighty not you just hating on rap,
[28:19] Speaker 1: hating the content.
[28:20] Speaker 5: Because I'm asking the question this news saying is an
[28:23] Speaker 5: eighty y old rapper because drop it till late to
[28:26] Speaker 5: the eighties.
[28:27] Speaker 3: But I feel like we we I think our community
[28:29] Speaker 3: has Like I don't want to say stop that, but
[28:31] Speaker 3: like when you think about rock and roll stars, like
[28:34] Speaker 3: like you said, Bob Dylan and Bruce Springs, the dudes
[28:36] Speaker 3: don't have to retire, right, Why does jay Z have
[28:39] Speaker 3: to retire? No, I'm just saying it's art, right, Like
[28:42] Speaker 3: you just said, it never should be a time timeline
[28:45] Speaker 3: on your artistry, right, If you're an artist, you should
[28:47] Speaker 3: be able to create forever until you till you die.
[28:49] Speaker 2: I will say with rap, I will say there is
[28:52] Speaker 2: a part of rap that is a young man's sport.
[28:54] Speaker 2: And what I mean by that is like it's a
[28:56] Speaker 2: young Most of the topics are young man things. So
[28:59] Speaker 2: for instance, jay Z now being married with three kids,
[29:02] Speaker 2: I'm not gonna he gonna big pimping is not gonna
[29:05] Speaker 2: feel the same.
[29:05] Speaker 1: Well, he's not talking to you, got I think no more.
[29:09] Speaker 5: And I think every artist goes through different chapters where
[29:12] Speaker 5: they talking about different things, and they evolved through that,
[29:14] Speaker 5: Oh no, what Bob Deyler be singing about? But I'm sure.
[29:21] Speaker 1: I saw.
[29:23] Speaker 5: It was folk music that had him singing that was
[29:25] Speaker 5: like classical folk music and it's just like cover music.
[29:28] Speaker 5: And then he was like, I want to do my
[29:30] Speaker 5: own ship and he started dropping his own So I'm
[29:32] Speaker 5: sure that like people that wanted to hear. Matter of fact,
[29:34] Speaker 5: it was like not boycotting, but they was rioting at
[29:38] Speaker 5: these festivals because he didn't want to sing the old
[29:40] Speaker 5: folk shit no more. So it's like, as an artist,
[29:42] Speaker 5: you got to evolve and you can't always cater to
[29:44] Speaker 5: that same demo. I feel like your audience should grow
[29:47] Speaker 5: with you. So all those kids don't want to listen
[29:50] Speaker 5: to jay Z no More, there's still generations of niggas
[29:53] Speaker 5: like us that grew up on jay Z and still
[29:55] Speaker 5: want to listen to it. But also I don't might
[29:57] Speaker 5: not believe big pimping No More is nostalgia to a
[30:00] Speaker 5: time where I did believe it's.
[30:02] Speaker 4: An unfair thing they do with rappers and saying like
[30:04] Speaker 4: oh you're too older rap or like I don't know,
[30:06] Speaker 4: I feel like, for instance, like jay Z's not going
[30:09] Speaker 4: to go out there and talk about stuff he did
[30:11] Speaker 4: no more. He's going to rap about stuff that's going
[30:13] Speaker 4: on with his life.
[30:13] Speaker 5: And that should be cool with all rappers.
[30:15] Speaker 4: But you'll get somebody like I don't even know, like
[30:18] Speaker 4: some random YouTube rappers that's something eighty years old still
[30:21] Speaker 4: talking about I'm on the block selling rocks and.
[30:23] Speaker 1: Stuff might be there. He might be got to grow up.
[30:30] Speaker 1: I can't be doing stuff like that. He got kids.
[30:32] Speaker 4: They gonna go on YouTube and be like, oh, ship,
[30:34] Speaker 4: my dad talking about rocks again on and then the.
[30:37] Speaker 5: Other side, like me being married with kids. I don't
[30:39] Speaker 5: want to hear this ship that Drake's still talking about.
[30:41] Speaker 5: I agree, like, bro, you've been doing the same thing
[30:43] Speaker 5: for twenty years. You got to doing it. So it's
[30:46] Speaker 5: just like they've got to use different people. Yeah, I'm
[30:48] Speaker 5: not really talking about I.
[30:49] Speaker 3: Feel like Drake war boat residents here he forty. It
[30:51] Speaker 3: makes it whereas it's constantly disconnect. It's like the same
[30:54] Speaker 3: as like they'll say athletes or rappers you're get in
[30:57] Speaker 3: the game, and they'll say, oh, sometimes that person never
[30:59] Speaker 3: grows up in the been that same age they first
[31:01] Speaker 3: got on that right so you'll meet somebody who's like, oh,
[31:03] Speaker 3: he may be thirty now, but if he got on
[31:06] Speaker 3: he was nineteen. He's still talking about the ship for
[31:07] Speaker 3: when he's nineteen because it worked for him. It's like
[31:10] Speaker 3: for me, you have to be like you said, you
[31:11] Speaker 3: have to be able to evolve. Jay Z's demographic, and
[31:15] Speaker 3: I think he's always done a.
[31:16] Speaker 1: Really good job of evolving throughout his career.
[31:18] Speaker 3: I think even when we talk about this, but him
[31:20] Speaker 3: talking about change clothes when we were kids, we made
[31:22] Speaker 3: us all putting on button.
[31:23] Speaker 1: Ups and blazers and shit like. That's what I'm saying.
[31:26] Speaker 3: Third RD, I'm saying so he's always trying to show
[31:29] Speaker 3: us what's next. So I'm okay with him continuing to
[31:32] Speaker 3: do music because he's always evolved right in front of us.
[31:35] Speaker 3: So I don't expect to see ten year olds or
[31:37] Speaker 3: fifteen year olds at a jay Z concert exspectly my
[31:40] Speaker 3: peers exactly, Dudes, I'm hanging around, let's go to the
[31:42] Speaker 3: concert together.
[31:43] Speaker 2: I feel that I'll see you that.
[31:44] Speaker 1: Ye see that.
[31:46] Speaker 5: Also, I also think there's a there's a double standard
[31:49] Speaker 5: we put on we put on ourselves like and I'm
[31:51] Speaker 5: guilty of it. I saw a meme or a post,
[31:55] Speaker 5: and it was talking about how people say Jim Jones
[31:57] Speaker 5: need to grow up, and he still they care why
[32:00] Speaker 5: in any fifty right, But then if you see like
[32:02] Speaker 5: a like an old age guy or old white guy
[32:06] Speaker 5: dressed just like Jim Jones, but no, he lies, but
[32:10] Speaker 5: we put the expectations on ourselves.
[32:12] Speaker 2: I think it's like, uh, it just it's out of
[32:15] Speaker 2: It's like not, I do not explain it. It's a
[32:18] Speaker 2: word for it. I can't think of it. But I
[32:19] Speaker 2: think I guess the irony in it. It's like somebody
[32:22] Speaker 2: dressed like that that is white or old or whatever.
[32:25] Speaker 2: It's like, oh, it's kind of silly. It's like, oh,
[32:27] Speaker 2: look at them dressed like a.
[32:28] Speaker 1: Young They don't call him silly though, they call him fly.
[32:31] Speaker 2: Like yeah, somebody's like I would grow up a couple
[32:33] Speaker 2: of goals. It's like an old couple of wearing chrumbhearts.
[32:35] Speaker 2: But for me, I'm like.
[32:38] Speaker 4: A black man to put them on suit and tie
[32:40] Speaker 4: with a certain age. But the white guy can still
[32:42] Speaker 4: go and wear his mohog and punk rock.
[32:43] Speaker 5: Stuff and it's just like that's him.
[32:45] Speaker 1: Yeah, it's like now you can't wear that.
[32:46] Speaker 4: You gotta you gotta put a suit on, black man.
[32:48] Speaker 4: You're older now, it's like, why do I want to
[32:50] Speaker 4: wear my white T shirt?
[32:52] Speaker 5: Actually? We gotta we Yeah, we need to.
[32:57] Speaker 1: Jones, it's Black Music Month. If you had to like
[33:01] Speaker 1: play somebody a black song to be like, this is
[33:04] Speaker 1: what black music is? Like, what song would you play?
[33:06] Speaker 5: Though?
[33:09] Speaker 1: I gotta answer?
[33:10] Speaker 4: You got to answer so much music out there that's
[33:12] Speaker 4: black people.
[33:13] Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, is that such thing as black music too?
[33:16] Speaker 1: Or is like how do you feel about that term?
[33:20] Speaker 4: Most definitely, because there's definitely white music and I don't
[33:22] Speaker 4: listen to it.
[33:23] Speaker 1: It's definitely now I listened to my white music.
[33:25] Speaker 5: I'm just being crazy, but.
[33:29] Speaker 4: I'm pretty sure like when somebody makes music, they're like, oh,
[33:33] Speaker 4: I'm not making this song for black people, but some are,
[33:36] Speaker 4: but not everybody. Like sometimes it's just music and it's
[33:38] Speaker 4: just what you grew up and we all kind of
[33:40] Speaker 4: grew up with the same stuff.
[33:41] Speaker 5: So you vibe for and it if you feel for
[33:43] Speaker 5: it and you understand it, and you just a nigga
[33:45] Speaker 5: that you know you was there.
[33:47] Speaker 2: Yeah, Jamaica funk Is, I would think yeah, yeah, Like
[33:50] Speaker 2: I feel like most people go like earth Wind and
[33:51] Speaker 2: fire like stee you wonder. I think that song to
[33:54] Speaker 2: me is like rhythmically like it's just like black that'shits
[33:57] Speaker 2: happy as Hell. I've only heard that in good moments.
[34:00] Speaker 3: I don't even know if I know Jamaican funk off
[34:02] Speaker 3: of I ain't Jamaican either.
[34:03] Speaker 2: Song you know this song? He knows the song.
[34:05] Speaker 1: I might know it. Probably not a boy the name
[34:07] Speaker 1: sing it to you? Yeah, I love that.
[34:10] Speaker 2: You don't know the words make the fun.
[34:14] Speaker 1: That's what when you move like this, that's black silent
[34:23] Speaker 1: singing it like this, you gotta move, bro. I feel
[34:27] Speaker 1: like Stevie wonder what song ass or Okay?
[34:30] Speaker 3: That yes, yeah, I think that's like probably like to
[34:34] Speaker 3: I think soul in general, like you can feel it
[34:37] Speaker 3: like you feel it in the music.
[34:38] Speaker 1: But I also think that black music is all music.
[34:40] Speaker 1: So that's that's my take there.
[34:42] Speaker 4: I'm I'm giving somebody the fifty cent first album, and
[34:45] Speaker 4: I'm like, this is it right here?
[34:47] Speaker 2: Like okay, patiently waiting.
[34:50] Speaker 1: That's a great album.
[34:51] Speaker 2: You about being.
[34:53] Speaker 1: Great album. I'll still be slapping it.
[34:57] Speaker 2: Out out the windows in the car. I will say
[35:00] Speaker 2: fifty listen to fifty cents like a self help book.
[35:02] Speaker 2: It as an adult. I'm being dead ass serious. Bro,
[35:05] Speaker 2: that niggle get you in the gym, you'll be buying
[35:07] Speaker 2: all sorts of ship. You might get a good I was.
[35:14] Speaker 5: I was struggling trying to figure it out. I don't
[35:15] Speaker 5: know if it's the name of before I leg it
[35:18] Speaker 5: before that go.
[35:20] Speaker 1: Yeah, that's a great, Yeah, that's great. Yeah it's a
[35:26] Speaker 1: black as that guitar comes in.
[35:29] Speaker 5: Yeah.
[35:30] Speaker 1: Yeah. But heard a song that you thought was black music?
[35:34] Speaker 1: If it wasn't, Yeah, color me bad? Huh, color me bad?
[35:37] Speaker 1: Color me bad? Player? What is it? Is it? Uh?
[35:41] Speaker 1: What's that song? Name? And everything about you?
[35:45] Speaker 3: When I first heard that baby come back Baby, That's
[35:47] Speaker 3: why I think it was black though it was playing
[35:50] Speaker 3: with a whole bunch of about your black as.
[35:51] Speaker 2: It sings, don't disturb the groove?
[35:55] Speaker 1: Is that?
[35:55] Speaker 5: Is that not?
[35:56] Speaker 4: I feel like it sounds like a black song, but
[35:58] Speaker 4: it might not be Black people don't disturb the groove.
[36:01] Speaker 1: Groove. I like that we all got vocals at the previous.
[36:14] Speaker 2: If okay, if somebody, let I think, I think if
[36:18] Speaker 2: I needed to show somebody a song in general, there's
[36:21] Speaker 2: a black artist on it, but I wouldn't consider it
[36:22] Speaker 2: black music. If an alien came to earth.
[36:25] Speaker 1: It was like, play me a song.
[36:26] Speaker 2: I played them like lose yourself to dance by Daft
[36:29] Speaker 2: punking for rail ors so thin they lose yourself.
[36:33] Speaker 1: Okay, No, I was just playing for an alien. Because
[36:35] Speaker 1: you think you don't like daft punk, lokey, you like
[36:37] Speaker 1: you're gonna like this.
[36:40] Speaker 2: I have a theory with that punk is like they
[36:42] Speaker 2: crossed every uh ethnicity and language because of the robot.
[36:46] Speaker 2: There was no attachment to a human. I know it
[36:48] Speaker 2: sounds like I.
[36:49] Speaker 5: Don't know who daft punk is at all.
[36:52] Speaker 1: Didn't make it over here. Brother, as far as you know,
[36:54] Speaker 1: you stronger, he knows Kanye is stronger for sure. Now
[36:57] Speaker 1: he'll know around the world.
[37:00] Speaker 2: That's a big song.
[37:00] Speaker 1: That is a big song.
[37:01] Speaker 2: Bro.
[37:01] Speaker 5: I grew up outside of white coaching until I was
[37:05] Speaker 5: like an adult. Like none of the teams did as well,
[37:08] Speaker 5: none of the movies. I don't know if I shake hand.
[37:11] Speaker 5: I just want isolated.
[37:13] Speaker 1: I agree.
[37:14] Speaker 5: Portsmouth, Virginia, like my schools, was pretty much segregated.
[37:17] Speaker 1: So you were Chris Brown.
[37:18] Speaker 5: When Chris Brown left Virginia, Nah, Bro, Chris Brown from
[37:21] Speaker 5: somewhere different. Chris, I'm alway Chris Brown. Chris Brown differently
[37:24] Speaker 5: from tap a Hannick. That's like a small I don't
[37:27] Speaker 5: know what topic handed is.
[37:28] Speaker 2: But you're telling me what Chris Brown is popping. You
[37:30] Speaker 2: wasn't running around with like.
[37:32] Speaker 5: Now when Christmas popping, Christmas popping when Christmas Chris came out,
[37:36] Speaker 5: like when he was sixteen, So I'm like seventeen at
[37:38] Speaker 5: the time, so I won't really meet like I had
[37:41] Speaker 5: a car when I was playing popping.
[37:43] Speaker 1: Okay, he was alright, he's already popping all. What's your
[37:48] Speaker 1: favorite black soundtrack? I feel like they used to have
[37:50] Speaker 1: a whole bunch of soundtracks back in the day. They
[37:51] Speaker 1: used to have like La Rushower Rush Hower.
[37:56] Speaker 5: Oh no, I ain't ever listening.
[37:57] Speaker 1: This last one to me was I guess Black Panther
[38:01] Speaker 1: or Lion Care That was a great iron key Lion King?
[38:04] Speaker 1: What's you even about? Lion King?
[38:06] Speaker 2: Great my sister's song that she wrote, how the new
[38:10] Speaker 2: one of the original Lion King.
[38:11] Speaker 5: Y'all heard nice Plug, Nice Plug?
[38:14] Speaker 1: That's one of his black album for music.
[38:16] Speaker 4: But I really enjoyed this song on the Deep Blue
[38:20] Speaker 4: Sea soundtrack by song when he got the fucking fin
[38:26] Speaker 4: on his head in the video Deepest bluest he.
[38:30] Speaker 1: I love that got her head on. He was wild.
[38:38] Speaker 5: That show he had the house was grow. One time
[38:42] Speaker 5: Debbie Allen was knocking on his door. He came out
[38:44] Speaker 5: with a towel on with his heat. She's like, you
[38:49] Speaker 5: showered with that thing.
[38:51] Speaker 1: I love that, Robert, I was good.
[38:54] Speaker 2: I'm going to tell you guys this because I really
[38:55] Speaker 2: think it's a cool idea. I was trying to make
[38:57] Speaker 2: a movie about ll cool j breaking like somebody broke
[39:00] Speaker 2: into his house and he put them in a comber.
[39:03] Speaker 2: I want to write a movie about like trying to
[39:05] Speaker 2: break into his house and getting in and then having
[39:06] Speaker 2: to escape this house. I know it's not joke, bro,
[39:10] Speaker 2: I've been like trying to write this ship for like
[39:11] Speaker 2: four months.
[39:13] Speaker 1: It's a real idea.
[39:14] Speaker 5: The only way to defeat him is like a video game.
[39:17] Speaker 5: You gotta hit him on the spot. You gotta knock
[39:20] Speaker 5: your cat off in order to get to it.
[39:25] Speaker 2: One of us gonna run, was gonna public and he
[39:29] Speaker 2: can oppress us. I feel like I'm gonna have to
[39:32] Speaker 2: deal with that.
[39:32] Speaker 5: I'm on your side, Bro, He's still buff. He's gonna
[39:36] Speaker 5: put you choke hold. You gotta big his head.
[39:41] Speaker 1: That's a good movie. Idea, don't don't stop.
[39:44] Speaker 2: Actually episode we'll talk about in the editor.
[39:48] Speaker 5: Idea. Is he gonna play in it?
[39:50] Speaker 1: Yeah?
[39:51] Speaker 2: Hell yeah, who I'm gonna play? You know what? I'm
[39:54] Speaker 2: gonna have Vin Diesel play.
[39:55] Speaker 1: Actually right there? Yeah it is the younger photos. You
[40:03] Speaker 1: can read the way. Then Diesel does have a song.
[40:07] Speaker 5: Yeah yeah, so.
[40:11] Speaker 1: Oh my god. Time that's a crazy take.
[40:16] Speaker 2: What do you guys think, like in a career like that,
[40:18] Speaker 2: what do you think you want out of it?
[40:20] Speaker 1: Like?
[40:20] Speaker 2: What do you care about? What is your intention? I
[40:23] Speaker 2: guess now because you came from Vine, which I think, Yeah,
[40:26] Speaker 2: you studied in college, you studied marketing.
[40:29] Speaker 5: Yeah, then you did Vine.
[40:30] Speaker 2: Then you started acting.
[40:31] Speaker 5: I was acting first. I started acting in college. I
[40:33] Speaker 5: moved out here to act. I was doing like student
[40:36] Speaker 5: films and independent films and commercials and stuff. But I
[40:38] Speaker 5: wasn't getting a break. And then I saw Vine. I
[40:40] Speaker 5: was like, oh, I could build an audience. This might
[40:42] Speaker 5: help me get opportunities. So I did Vine for that reason.
[40:45] Speaker 5: And then once I build an audience, I went back
[40:48] Speaker 5: to acting. But I don't know how to sound cliche man,
[40:51] Speaker 5: But I really don't care how to world see me
[40:54] Speaker 5: when I'm done. I kind of just want to do
[40:56] Speaker 5: the stuff that fulfill me. I care with my kids,
[40:58] Speaker 5: like think about me, because think about what the world
[41:01] Speaker 5: think about you. Bro, you will get lost because the
[41:04] Speaker 5: gold posts moves so much. It is I love you,
[41:06] Speaker 5: then they hate you. Then a hundred years from now
[41:08] Speaker 5: they do your bio pick and they make up stuff
[41:10] Speaker 5: that they ain't even true.
[41:11] Speaker 4: I would love to end with like you know, some
[41:13] Speaker 4: random cool TV shows, some movies ideas I put out there,
[41:16] Speaker 4: but like I'm not like on something like they gotta
[41:19] Speaker 4: remember what I did, Like they won't. They gonna be
[41:22] Speaker 4: into what they end like that I'm saying, Jesus, I'm.
[41:30] Speaker 1: More saying that, like you know, you will see some
[41:32] Speaker 1: shit nowadays where a person might die the same day
[41:35] Speaker 1: as some other bullshit going on in the world. Damn
[41:37] Speaker 1: you down on the wrong day, they don't give a
[41:39] Speaker 1: about you. It's over the next day. You're like, they
[41:41] Speaker 1: didn't even think about that.
[41:42] Speaker 4: Are like, we're not talking about what the fuck was
[41:44] Speaker 4: going on in eighteen oh four.
[41:45] Speaker 1: No, the fu happened in eighteen oh war. So when
[41:47] Speaker 1: we get your grounds and.
[41:50] Speaker 4: Three thousand, they're not gonna be like looking back, like
[41:51] Speaker 4: oh man, those dudes in twenty twenty were so cool, Like, yeah, I.
[41:55] Speaker 2: Guess there's something like legend right now. That's a legend
[41:57] Speaker 2: of me that will not matter. Like, yeah, Devin George
[42:00] Speaker 2: the basketball player on the Lakers number three back in
[42:02] Speaker 2: the day. I love Devin George. But to anybody else,
[42:05] Speaker 2: y'all don't know who Devin George is.
[42:06] Speaker 1: We do, Boy, you love Devin George. He was cute.
[42:08] Speaker 1: That's a random pool.
[42:09] Speaker 2: Where did you get that from? Well?
[42:11] Speaker 1: I don't know what else you like George?
[42:12] Speaker 2: I thought he was good at basketball.
[42:14] Speaker 1: He averaged like six points. Again, I didn't know no different.
[42:16] Speaker 6: I six something here, keep digging, let's keep going. Skin
[42:24] Speaker 6: he picked up picked type. I him at them all
[42:28] Speaker 6: here it is.
[42:28] Speaker 1: That's what it is.
[42:29] Speaker 2: It is, even Slama never dinko.
[42:31] Speaker 1: It had to be something slopping.
[42:35] Speaker 5: And one hundred years, everybody we know will be dead
[42:38] Speaker 5: and it'd be new people fighting over stuff.
[42:40] Speaker 1: That's what I'm saying.
[42:41] Speaker 2: They're not gonna get these fants off me.
[42:43] Speaker 5: I know that my name is my wife y all dead.
[42:47] Speaker 2: Before we wrap up, I do want to say Jackass
[42:49] Speaker 2: comes out on June twenty six. June twenty six.
[42:54] Speaker 1: In theaters only. You better go see this. It's a
[42:56] Speaker 1: lot of fun.
[42:56] Speaker 4: You don't want to watch it at home because watching
[42:59] Speaker 4: it with random.
[42:59] Speaker 5: People you don't know. In the theater, it's always a blessing.
[43:02] Speaker 2: Yeah, watching certain movies in theater is amazing, jackasses. A
[43:04] Speaker 2: theater movie it is.
[43:05] Speaker 1: I cried you cry. I didn't even know you could,
[43:07] Speaker 1: like cry by people getting kicked the nuts, but I cried.
[43:10] Speaker 1: I was like, this is this is beautiful. I'm hearing
[43:12] Speaker 1: this a very emotional movie. Yeah, even though I haven't
[43:15] Speaker 1: seen it the movie, I'm in a lot of heart.
[43:17] Speaker 2: They played you. Honestly, it's cool.
[43:19] Speaker 4: I'm gonna go to a seet at the premiere. It'll
[43:20] Speaker 4: be all right so I can feel with everybody else
[43:22] Speaker 4: for the first time.
[43:23] Speaker 2: That's sweet. Man. I'm out of town for that ship.
[43:25] Speaker 2: Bummed out about it.
[43:26] Speaker 5: Honestly, I guess I'll give his ticket to somebody else.
[43:28] Speaker 1: Yeah, cast me.
[43:30] Speaker 5: Yeah, I come and.
[43:33] Speaker 1: Brohite on that.
[43:37] Speaker 5: Some good money interchangeable.
[43:39] Speaker 1: Thank you guys so much for coming. Melvate, You guys
[43:42] Speaker 1: are amazing.
[43:43] Speaker 3: I'm one of your host.
[43:45] Speaker 2: Little Brown, I'm Travis Bennett. This is Jasper. That's Melvin Gregg.
[43:50] Speaker 1: Until next time, y'all, thank you for coming. You're gonna
[43:53] Speaker 1: reached all the way over.
[43:54] Speaker 5: I'm not so now
[44:00] Speaker 1: Does walk away

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