# What Thucydides Can Teach Us About Politics And War | Hoover Institution

An episode of [The Secrets of Statecraft](https://invisiblenetwork.ai/podcast/1611541789), 29 Sep 2026, 1 h 00 min.

Audio: https://mcdn.podbean.com/mf/web/4gygwcknb6mx84t3/SoS_Andrew_Novo9vcr6.mp3

Everyone quotes Thucydides—but are we getting him right? Historian Andrew Novo joins Andrew Roberts to explore what the chronicler of Athens and Sparta really tells us about war, democracy, ambition, and human nature. From the disastrous invasion of Sicily to today’s rivalry between America and China, they examine how leaders wield power, how democracies lose their way, and why history’s most memorable lines can teach the wrong lessons when stripped of context.

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