# Becoming Burnham: Thatcher, Hillsborough, and the Anger that Shaped Him | Part 1

An episode of [The Rest Is Politics](https://invisiblenetwork.ai/podcast/1611374685), 20 Aug 2026, 21 min.

Audio: https://pdst.fm/e/traffic.megaphone.fm/GLT6202238073.mp3

To hear the full episode and the series as it drops, sign up up at therestispolitics.com Alastair is joined by Andy Burnham’s closest confidant, friend and former colleague, Steve Rotheram – the Metro Mayor of the Liverpool City Region to discuss… Who really is Andy Burnham, and how is he going to change Britain? How have events like Hillsborough, and Thatcher’s Northern neglect shaped him? And, how does he contend with his imposter syndrome, his ‘Catholic guilt complex’, and his restless desire to be liked? Producer: India Dunkley Researcher: Miranda Crawford Video Editor: Josh Smith Social Producer: Celine Charles Executive Producer: Emily Kent Smith Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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