# Crowning Ignorant Kings - Dr. Myles Munroe - How to Restore Broken Character

An episode of [Crowning Ignorant Kings](https://invisiblenetwork.ai/podcast/1609667064), 31 Dec 2024, 1 h 02 min.

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## Transcript

[0:09] Speaker 1: You're listening to Crowning Ignorant Kings, a podcast for citizens
[0:14] Speaker 1: with like minds who love God, follow Christ, and have
[0:17] Speaker 1: a desire to be an ambassador for the Kingdom of
[0:21] Speaker 1: Heaven on earth. We are John and Charlene Donaldson, who
[0:25] Speaker 1: are teachers building a kingdom community. Thank you again for
[0:29] Speaker 1: joining us. Now let's adjust our crowns.
[0:38] Speaker 2: This is gonna be kind of a challenging session. Get
[0:42] Speaker 2: your notebooks, your iPads, your iPhones.
[0:45] Speaker 3: And your minipads, and we're going to talk.
[0:47] Speaker 2: About how to restore broken character. How to restore broken character,
[0:58] Speaker 2: in other words, how do you come back after your
[1:04] Speaker 2: character has been fractured. I'm going to focus on understanding
[1:12] Speaker 2: the process of leadership restoration. And this is probably one
[1:18] Speaker 2: of the most difficult experiences leaders have because we've been
[1:26] Speaker 2: trained only to succeed. We've never been trained on how
[1:31] Speaker 2: to fail effectively. And I think that's the problem. You
[1:39] Speaker 2: have to learn how to fail also and what to
[1:44] Speaker 2: do with failure. And there has been perhaps only two
[1:51] Speaker 2: percent of leaders who came back and survived. I was
[1:58] Speaker 2: watching television before where I went to bed last night.
[2:01] Speaker 2: I was watching the Canadian Broadcasting Corporation channel and The
[2:07] Speaker 2: top story.
[2:08] Speaker 3: For thirty minutes was the mayor of Toronto who was filmed.
[2:15] Speaker 2: High on cocaine. I mean they got the video. They
[2:22] Speaker 2: also bought out more news that they filmed him with prostitutes.
[2:31] Speaker 2: They bought him before the Council of Councilors in Toronto yesterday.
[2:38] Speaker 3: They grilled him.
[2:39] Speaker 2: For almost four hours, and every single moment of that
[2:47] Speaker 2: four hours he refused to submit. His last statement was, no,
[2:58] Speaker 2: matter what you do, I'm not stepping down. The vote
[3:03] Speaker 2: for him to step down was forty one to two.
[3:09] Speaker 3: He still said I am not stepping down.
[3:16] Speaker 2: They asked him a question, did you purchase drugs in
[3:22] Speaker 2: the last thirty days?
[3:24] Speaker 3: He paused for a moment and then he said yes.
[3:32] Speaker 3: They asked him another.
[3:33] Speaker 2: Question, do you still hold to zero toleration on drugs
[3:39] Speaker 2: and guns?
[3:41] Speaker 3: He said yes.
[3:44] Speaker 2: The question does this apply to you? He said yes,
[3:52] Speaker 2: I'm confused.
[3:56] Speaker 3: I'm going to talk to you about a word.
[3:58] Speaker 2: You need to learn, the word disqualified.
[4:03] Speaker 3: Write it down.
[4:05] Speaker 2: You can be disqualified as a leader. This mayor is
[4:12] Speaker 2: disqualified and he refuses to do the honorable thing. Finally,
[4:23] Speaker 2: they asked him a question, have you told us everything
[4:27] Speaker 2: that we should know? He paused for a minute, he said, well,
[4:36] Speaker 2: there may be another hanging in my closet. I am
[4:43] Speaker 2: convinced he is moved from stupidity, landed on foolishness, and
[4:49] Speaker 2: of entered dementation. But it shows you the caliber of
[4:58] Speaker 2: leaders we have today. Toronto is one of the most beautiful,
[5:03] Speaker 2: powerful cities in the world.
[5:06] Speaker 3: And the leader is a drug addict, no character. What
[5:17] Speaker 3: do you do when you lose it all?
[5:22] Speaker 2: I have a chapter in the book. The title of
[5:27] Speaker 2: it is how to Fall Up? Because we know how
[5:33] Speaker 2: to fall down. I have lost respect for so many
[5:41] Speaker 2: ministers in America, and I've also lost respect for those
[5:45] Speaker 2: who continue to entertain them. I have disassociated myself with
[5:53] Speaker 2: organizations in the United States, even though they.
[5:57] Speaker 3: Wanted me to be used for their promotion.
[6:02] Speaker 2: I said to them, because you support those who are disqualified, I.
[6:06] Speaker 3: Don't want to be named among them. How do you
[6:16] Speaker 3: fall up? So I'm going to give you what I.
[6:21] Speaker 2: Call the secret to leaders failure and restoration, because some
[6:28] Speaker 2: of you may have that in your future. Some of
[6:32] Speaker 2: you may be there already, and I've come to this
[6:34] Speaker 2: summit to try and get help.
[6:37] Speaker 3: You are in the right place, and this.
[6:42] Speaker 2: Goes for politicians and pastors and corporate executives and bishops
[6:47] Speaker 2: and housewives and ministers and even parents. How do you
[6:52] Speaker 2: come back after you fail your children? Let's talk about
[7:00] Speaker 2: for a minute. We learned a few things in this
[7:06] Speaker 2: summit so far. I'll repeat a couple of them. One,
[7:10] Speaker 2: the foundation of leadership is what character?
[7:13] Speaker 3: Number two. The most important component.
[7:16] Speaker 2: Of leadership is character. I think you are convinced of
[7:19] Speaker 2: that now. It's not power or skill or authority. It's
[7:24] Speaker 2: not competence, it's not influence. It's character. Number Three, The
[7:34] Speaker 2: greatest protection of leadership is character.
[7:39] Speaker 3: The greatest protection of leadership is character.
[7:43] Speaker 2: You are not protected by your entourage because your entourage
[7:50] Speaker 2: may not have character, or they may be the ones
[7:56] Speaker 2: who are protecting you from your default character.
[8:03] Speaker 3: They are part of your corruption.
[8:07] Speaker 2: And number four, talents and gifts are only as safe
[8:13] Speaker 2: as your character. Character is the container of your skills,
[8:19] Speaker 2: your gifts, and your talents.
[8:21] Speaker 3: It's the container.
[8:23] Speaker 2: If you break the container, you lose your talent and gifts.
[8:34] Speaker 2: I mentioned to you about law yesterday, and I'm going
[8:36] Speaker 2: to give you something very quick about law. We understood
[8:39] Speaker 2: that the foundation of character is values, which produce your morals.
[8:46] Speaker 2: But the question is what produces values. The answer is
[8:50] Speaker 2: write it down. The foundation of ethics is law, and
[8:54] Speaker 2: law is the source of culture. Law is the source
[8:58] Speaker 2: of morality. Law produces moral implications or law and written
[9:07] Speaker 2: unspoken law rather feeds the conscience. We talked about that yesterday.
[9:13] Speaker 2: Conscience is unspoken. Law is the law shouting at you,
[9:19] Speaker 2: and law is the source of values. Law interprets values
[9:29] Speaker 2: and law establishes values. Whenever you create a law, you've
[9:34] Speaker 2: identified a value. And this is why the first thing
[9:42] Speaker 2: you need to build any nation, it's not a prime
[9:45] Speaker 2: minister or a president.
[9:47] Speaker 3: You need a constitution.
[9:50] Speaker 2: The conclution contains the ideals of the country, the standards
[9:54] Speaker 2: that there are going to live by. It incorporates and
[9:57] Speaker 2: constitutes the the philosophy of the people. It is the
[10:04] Speaker 2: body of law by which we agree to live by, which.
[10:09] Speaker 3: Means that the constitution is the source of culture. So
[10:15] Speaker 3: that's how powerful law is. I thought I.
[10:17] Speaker 2: Would give you a couple of thoughts about how law
[10:21] Speaker 2: affects culture, and then how you can protect yourself from
[10:24] Speaker 2: falling by getting back to law. Character is manifested when
[10:29] Speaker 2: your values, your principles, and your morals are tested. No
[10:36] Speaker 2: matter what you tell me about your character, only tests
[10:39] Speaker 2: can prove what it is. You can call it tests
[10:43] Speaker 2: a lot of things. You can call it temptation, you
[10:45] Speaker 2: can call it opportunities. But your character is tested under pressure.
[10:52] Speaker 2: Number two. Characters manifested under pressure because you don't believe
[10:57] Speaker 2: what you believe until you are test it to break it.
[11:05] Speaker 2: Your convictions are proven by tests, not by your pronouncements.
[11:15] Speaker 3: What you claim must be tested.
[11:23] Speaker 2: That's why you shouldn't just read a person's resume, read
[11:27] Speaker 2: their life. You'll be amazed how many people embellish their resumes.
[11:36] Speaker 2: After all, who would write bad things about themselves? So
[11:43] Speaker 2: never be impressed by people's resumes. I want to stress again, then,
[11:50] Speaker 2: that characters manifested when self sacrifice becomes more important than
[11:56] Speaker 2: popular compromise. Who you are is always tested by two things.
[12:04] Speaker 2: Write them down, matter of fact. Three things. Three things
[12:08] Speaker 2: will test your character every time and if you study
[12:12] Speaker 2: and in my book on Character, I did a complete
[12:14] Speaker 2: assessment of this with the greatest leader that ever lived,
[12:18] Speaker 2: Jesus Christ.
[12:19] Speaker 3: The three things that will always test your character. He
[12:22] Speaker 3: passed the test.
[12:23] Speaker 2: First one is appetites, which includes food, drink, and sex.
[12:34] Speaker 2: The second test that would manifest your character is the
[12:39] Speaker 2: test for fame, and the third one is the test
[12:45] Speaker 2: for power. They say, if you want to know who
[12:49] Speaker 2: a man a woman really is, give them power and money.
[12:56] Speaker 3: See what they do with it.
[13:00] Speaker 2: Vika, please, so it's so important for you to understand
[13:05] Speaker 2: that you are going to be tested now. I want
[13:09] Speaker 2: to ask you to please do something legally. You can
[13:14] Speaker 2: take your iPhone and photograph this page because I won't
[13:19] Speaker 2: give you time to write them more.
[13:20] Speaker 3: But these are important.
[13:23] Speaker 2: I want to just give you a list of what
[13:24] Speaker 2: I call the power values.
[13:26] Speaker 3: We will read them together. Are you ready.
[13:29] Speaker 2: Number one, values are better than rules. Number two values
[13:35] Speaker 2: are more important than rules. Number three values outlive goals.
[13:42] Speaker 2: Number four values send a message. Number five values must
[13:49] Speaker 2: be identified. Number six values must be accepted if they're
[13:55] Speaker 2: going to work. Number seven values must be believed.
[14:00] Speaker 3: Number eight.
[14:01] Speaker 2: Your values shape the organization and the nation. Number nine
[14:07] Speaker 2: values are personal, but they are never private.
[14:12] Speaker 3: Number ten.
[14:14] Speaker 2: Values become a culture. Number eleven, your values must be shared.
[14:21] Speaker 3: Number twelve.
[14:23] Speaker 2: Values attract like values. Number thirteen values become social norms.
[14:33] Speaker 2: Number fourteen values can create or destroy. I just want
[14:41] Speaker 2: to comment on number twelve. Values attract like values. What
[14:50] Speaker 2: do you mean by that, whatever your value system is
[14:56] Speaker 2: becomes a magnet tracts people just like those values. Values
[15:06] Speaker 2: also repel.
[15:09] Speaker 4: Values.
[15:11] Speaker 2: I mentioned the first day you came here in my
[15:13] Speaker 2: session the first time.
[15:15] Speaker 3: First day, I said, if someone approaches you to break law.
[15:21] Speaker 2: Or to do a corrupt act in your business or
[15:23] Speaker 2: in your ministry or your workplace.
[15:25] Speaker 3: If they approach you to break a law, you are
[15:29] Speaker 3: already a failure.
[15:33] Speaker 2: Because somehow, in their minds they believe that you would
[15:36] Speaker 2: actually do it. They actually In other words, your values
[15:40] Speaker 2: were not loud enough. You should weigh your values loudly
[15:48] Speaker 2: so that people will even tell other people.
[15:50] Speaker 3: Don't even bother him. He's not going to go for that.
[15:52] Speaker 3: I know the guy.
[15:56] Speaker 2: So if evil men approach you to do evil, you
[15:59] Speaker 2: are a defective. Your values should speak loud. Stop of
[16:09] Speaker 2: the values of leadership, write them down. The value of faithfulness,
[16:14] Speaker 2: the value of self control, the value of steadiness, the
[16:18] Speaker 2: value of integrity towards those who serve, the value of
[16:23] Speaker 2: responsible communication, the value of personal integrity, this is an
[16:27] Speaker 2: important list. The value of maturity, the value of humility.
[16:32] Speaker 2: These are the values of leaders. Each one of these
[16:38] Speaker 2: is a seminar so I have a lot of work
[16:41] Speaker 2: to do before I die. Because each one of these
[16:44] Speaker 2: are so important, you need to teach each one of
[16:46] Speaker 2: them for two hours, because that's how much we lack
[16:49] Speaker 2: in leadership. The values that a leader needs to embrace
[16:55] Speaker 2: and keep close are so critical to that leader's protection. Now,
[17:03] Speaker 2: pardon me for moving too quickly, because I want to
[17:05] Speaker 2: get to the heart of this in a short time.
[17:09] Speaker 2: What is the impact of a leader's failure? What is
[17:14] Speaker 2: the impact of a leader's failure?
[17:18] Speaker 3: Write this down.
[17:19] Speaker 2: Failing in leadership is not as great as failing to
[17:22] Speaker 2: deal with that failure effectively. I repeat, failure in leadership
[17:30] Speaker 2: is not as great as failing to deal with the
[17:33] Speaker 2: failure effectively.
[17:36] Speaker 3: Everybody fails in something.
[17:39] Speaker 2: Everybody have experienced the disappointment in themselves. Everybody has embarrassed
[17:46] Speaker 2: themselves and others. Everybody has done something that I've made
[17:51] Speaker 2: them feel depressed because their expectations felt below their own standard.
[17:58] Speaker 2: That's not the problem. The problem is not.
[18:01] Speaker 3: The failure, is how you deal with that failure.
[18:09] Speaker 2: And I can say from experience, most leaders I have
[18:16] Speaker 2: encountered don't know.
[18:17] Speaker 3: How to handle failure.
[18:22] Speaker 2: I'm going to give you some specific instructions on how
[18:24] Speaker 2: to do it, not just for yourself, but to help
[18:28] Speaker 2: other people. Second point, failure in leadership is really the
[18:35] Speaker 2: closing of an account of trust. People close the account.
[18:43] Speaker 2: When you fail, the people shut down the account. What
[18:48] Speaker 2: account the account of trust? Remember, you cannot pay for trust,
[18:53] Speaker 2: pray for trust, or buy.
[18:55] Speaker 3: Trust, nor can you demand it. It is some that people.
[18:59] Speaker 2: Deposit on your account of integrity the more they get
[19:02] Speaker 2: to know you. Every time they prove your character, they
[19:06] Speaker 2: make a deposit. And you can build up a deposit
[19:11] Speaker 2: of trust for fifty years. The only problem is if
[19:15] Speaker 2: you violate the account, what.
[19:17] Speaker 3: Took you fifty years to build can be.
[19:20] Speaker 2: Lost in fifty seconds. And that's the tragedy of failure.
[19:28] Speaker 2: At least the point number three. Trust is the currency
[19:33] Speaker 2: of leadership, and it is the reason why a leader
[19:36] Speaker 2: is successful. It's not your personality. It's not your power,
[19:41] Speaker 2: it is not your oratory skills. It's not your ability
[19:44] Speaker 2: to influence people. It's not your position, it's not your
[19:47] Speaker 2: money or your cloud.
[19:49] Speaker 3: The key to your leadership is trust.
[19:53] Speaker 2: People follow you because they trust you. You violate that,
[20:00] Speaker 2: you lose the account. So you are as safe as
[20:06] Speaker 2: the account you protect. What are you doing right now
[20:13] Speaker 2: that's threatening your account? What are you secretly doing that
[20:20] Speaker 2: could cancel your account? The may of Toronto, Manday first
[20:27] Speaker 2: exposed him. The police exposed him. He denied everything, and
[20:32] Speaker 2: then the police showed the video. I wonder if there's
[20:40] Speaker 2: a video on you. You have no idea how to
[20:45] Speaker 2: satellite work anymore. I was talking to the Minister of
[20:57] Speaker 2: security in Israel, has the number one security component in
[21:03] Speaker 2: the world.
[21:04] Speaker 3: He said this to me.
[21:06] Speaker 2: He said, if you take your battery out of your iPhone,
[21:11] Speaker 2: we still hear every word you say. He didn't say
[21:15] Speaker 2: turn it off. If you take the battery out, yes,
[21:22] Speaker 2: take a deep breath. So you thought you were safe.
[21:25] Speaker 2: Huh After that moment, I trembled. So unplugging doesn't unplug.
[21:45] Speaker 3: That's my point. So living a way that you don't
[21:49] Speaker 3: care what they hear. Clap.
[22:02] Speaker 2: So if the currency of leadership is trust, then you
[22:05] Speaker 2: can only buy leadership success with the trust people give you.
[22:13] Speaker 2: Your number one goal in life as a leader is
[22:16] Speaker 2: to protect the account.
[22:21] Speaker 3: We need help, don't be.
[22:25] Speaker 2: Let's talk a little bit then about the power of
[22:26] Speaker 2: leadership trust.
[22:29] Speaker 3: Write this down very important.
[22:31] Speaker 2: It is impossible to lead those who do not trust
[22:34] Speaker 2: you because they will sabotage you. You'll be amazed when
[22:43] Speaker 2: they're cooking up when you leave the office. Secondly, trust
[22:52] Speaker 2: is a deposit on the leadership account by the followers
[22:55] Speaker 2: over a long period of time.
[23:00] Speaker 3: Find trust for you.
[23:01] Speaker 2: Early in the seminar, I told you that trust is
[23:05] Speaker 2: an equation.
[23:06] Speaker 3: The equation is test over.
[23:09] Speaker 2: Time equals trust. Can you reatly justlay that test? Draw
[23:13] Speaker 2: a line over time put equal trust, which means.
[23:20] Speaker 3: That trust requires two things.
[23:22] Speaker 2: Testing a person over a long period of time. Then
[23:26] Speaker 2: that's how you build trust in that person. That's why
[23:28] Speaker 2: you cannot stand up before an audience ever again and
[23:31] Speaker 2: say trust me. Stop using the term. It's impossible. Either
[23:39] Speaker 2: they trust you or.
[23:41] Speaker 3: They don't, and that depends on how long they.
[23:45] Speaker 2: Were able to observe you under pressure, consistency, integrity, candor, wisdom,
[23:54] Speaker 2: surviving battles, attacks, criticism. You trust people who survive. That's
[24:13] Speaker 2: why we trust mister Nelson Mandela. His name has come
[24:16] Speaker 2: up so often through the world lately because he is trustworthy.
[24:22] Speaker 3: He is worthy of trust.
[24:24] Speaker 2: Because he's kept steady under pressure. His conviction was bigger
[24:31] Speaker 2: than their attempts to make him compromise. See this picture.
[24:39] Speaker 2: I like this picture. I think we need more leaders
[24:42] Speaker 2: in this position. You can interpret this picture anyways. One
[24:50] Speaker 2: fear of failure. Oh God, please don't let me disappoint
[24:55] Speaker 2: the people.
[24:57] Speaker 3: Don't let me disappoint my spouse, let me.
[25:00] Speaker 2: Disgrace my children. Cry out, this is my position. Every
[25:05] Speaker 2: day I'm like, I'm so afraid. You think it's joy
[25:09] Speaker 2: to be up here. You think it is easy for
[25:15] Speaker 2: you to shake my hand and tell me how wonderful
[25:17] Speaker 2: I've helped you. That's not easy. You're putting pressure on me.
[25:22] Speaker 2: You're telling me, don't mess up. A lot of people
[25:30] Speaker 2: pursue leadership. I have no idea what leadership is. Cry out, go.
[25:40] Speaker 3: And make that your position. Every day.
[25:43] Speaker 2: Every morning you wake up, every evening you say, please, please, God,
[25:49] Speaker 2: don't let me mess up. I have a little private
[25:59] Speaker 2: philosophy I live with here. It is before I make
[26:03] Speaker 2: a decision, I always ask myself, will I enjoy remembering this?
[26:14] Speaker 2: If the answer is no, you don't do it leadership.
[26:26] Speaker 2: Let's talk about the leadership account one more time. The
[26:28] Speaker 2: account of a leader is maintained by the leader's continual
[26:34] Speaker 2: faithfulness and protection of that trust. No one maintains the
[26:40] Speaker 2: trust account only you, So hiring an entourage and bodyguards.
[26:50] Speaker 3: Can't help you with trust.
[26:52] Speaker 2: As a matter of fact, it's possible that you need
[26:56] Speaker 2: bodyguards because you lack trust.
[27:06] Speaker 3: Sometimes you don't.
[27:09] Speaker 2: See people with entourage because they are important. It's because
[27:15] Speaker 2: they are afraid, not afraid of you, afraid of themselves.
[27:28] Speaker 3: You are the only one who can.
[27:31] Speaker 2: Protect that account, and that account is protected in secret
[27:36] Speaker 2: and public constantly. You gotta protect it in the dark
[27:40] Speaker 2: when no one's watching. The Mayor of Toronto, can I
[27:46] Speaker 2: go back to him again? This guy thought no one
[27:49] Speaker 2: knew his account is over. I don't care how much
[27:56] Speaker 2: he tries, and he's making the wrong decision. I wish
[27:59] Speaker 2: he's watching this right now. Brother, Just step down. You
[28:04] Speaker 2: are disqualified.
[28:07] Speaker 3: Do you know that.
[28:10] Speaker 2: The American runner who ran the race the Bahamas came second.
[28:21] Speaker 2: A few months ago the Olympic committee called our government
[28:25] Speaker 2: and said the Bahamas came first. Hang on, they said,
[28:30] Speaker 2: because they discovered that the American runner took drugs. In
[28:36] Speaker 2: other words, the winner lost. You can be fired and
[28:48] Speaker 2: still be on the job if you don't believe me,
[28:52] Speaker 2: As Saul, God can fire you and people think you
[29:02] Speaker 2: are still hired. He will still going to work and
[29:08] Speaker 2: was fired, and the guy who was appointed to take
[29:12] Speaker 2: his place was already appointed. I hope there's no one
[29:16] Speaker 2: already appointed in your position, because God knows some things
[29:22] Speaker 2: about you. Protect your account. I told you, and I
[29:31] Speaker 2: warned you. This is a tough session because this brings
[29:36] Speaker 2: the weight on you to protect your character.
[29:40] Speaker 3: Write this down, please.
[29:41] Speaker 2: The leader protects the trust account with his integrity or
[29:45] Speaker 2: her integrity and their character. You protect that account by
[29:51] Speaker 2: your being fixed, predictable, unmovable set violate my values. I
[30:01] Speaker 2: will not sell my convictions. I got to protect my account.
[30:13] Speaker 3: This man have lost his account.
[30:18] Speaker 2: He's still trying to get it back, and it gests
[30:21] Speaker 2: is so tough. He's trying to help the poor, try
[30:27] Speaker 2: to help Haiti, trying to do good works. He never
[30:34] Speaker 2: went the route of restoration. Pretending that it didn't happen,
[30:42] Speaker 2: doesn't cancel it. Read it aloud, please read violation of
[30:53] Speaker 2: the trust account by a self imposed destruction of this
[30:58] Speaker 2: integrity and character cannot be restored merely by forgiveness.
[31:04] Speaker 3: See I got you. Stop telling people forgive me.
[31:09] Speaker 2: The mayor of Toronto last night repeated it over and again. Okay, yes,
[31:16] Speaker 2: I was caught forgive me Toronto to forgive me. I
[31:20] Speaker 2: want the council to forgive me. I want to sendate
[31:23] Speaker 2: to forgive me.
[31:24] Speaker 3: Brother. We don't want to forgive you. We want you
[31:26] Speaker 3: to leave. They said, forgiveness is not restoration. The request for.
[31:39] Speaker 2: Forgiveness is you saying I need help. Give me room,
[31:47] Speaker 2: give me space to get help.
[31:55] Speaker 3: Read this one for me go.
[31:57] Speaker 2: The followers may forgive the leader immediately, but the trust
[32:04] Speaker 2: the count will be depleted. Don't confuse forgiveness with the
[32:08] Speaker 2: restoration of trust. You know, when you commit adultery in
[32:11] Speaker 2: your marriage mhm, you know, you know, you feel all
[32:16] Speaker 2: bad about it, remorse, all this good stuff, you.
[32:18] Speaker 4: Know, and you get on on your knees. Oh, please
[32:20] Speaker 4: forgive me, baby. You know, I just you know, you're
[32:22] Speaker 4: just with a mistake, you know, And I didn't mean
[32:23] Speaker 4: I love.
[32:24] Speaker 3: You after all.
[32:28] Speaker 4: You a Christian, you gotta forgive, you know, God say
[32:30] Speaker 4: forgive and go to all.
[32:31] Speaker 2: This stuff, and you finally get your spouse to say, okay,
[32:38] Speaker 2: I forgive you. That has nothing to do with the account.
[32:46] Speaker 2: Forgiveness is not the restoration of trust.
[32:50] Speaker 3: Write it down.
[32:51] Speaker 2: Forgiveness is simply me saying I'm gonna give you room
[32:56] Speaker 2: to repel the account. I have heard it said many
[33:03] Speaker 2: times when I counsel couples. They say, you know, it's
[33:06] Speaker 2: being a year now since I committed adultery and my.
[33:09] Speaker 3: Wife's still bringing it up.
[33:10] Speaker 2: Listen, brother, the account is still empty because when you
[33:14] Speaker 2: go in the nights, he's still ain't sure where you went.
[33:19] Speaker 2: You need an ankle brace that takes photographs that she
[33:25] Speaker 2: can see. Oh, I'm talking since here, you know you
[33:30] Speaker 2: just guys. Ever, forgive me no brother? Why are you late?
[33:35] Speaker 2: I mean the question they ask you are all trust questions.
[33:40] Speaker 2: Why did you come home late? Stop blaming people for
[33:49] Speaker 2: not trusting you. You destroyed the account, and I learned
[33:55] Speaker 2: something from my experience with people. It takes longer to
[33:59] Speaker 2: rebuild it and to destroy it. And it takes longer
[34:04] Speaker 2: to rebuild it than to build it. Take a deep bread.
[34:13] Speaker 2: You need some heir. Leaders trust the count. Read this
[34:18] Speaker 2: one for me. Go. The leader must be constantly aware
[34:23] Speaker 2: that a trust the count, which may have been built
[34:27] Speaker 2: over thirty or forty years, could be canceled in thirty
[34:30] Speaker 2: or forty seconds. And that's why the leader refused to
[34:34] Speaker 2: step down. He can't believe it collapsed that quickly, you know,
[34:39] Speaker 2: the mayor of Toronto.
[34:40] Speaker 3: Here we go again, he said, I helped to reduce the.
[34:45] Speaker 2: What do you call it, the death of the city.
[34:47] Speaker 2: I built roads, I built bridger You get the long
[34:50] Speaker 2: he brought, all the papers and things he did. He
[34:52] Speaker 2: missed the point.
[34:53] Speaker 3: We don't care.
[34:59] Speaker 2: I build this church. I'm the one who founded this church,
[35:02] Speaker 2: and I labored in this church, and I took thirty years.
[35:05] Speaker 3: Brother, there's no trust on the account.
[35:12] Speaker 2: It's gone in thirty seconds. Thirty years gone in thirty seconds.
[35:17] Speaker 2: Get it, it's gone. I warn you on this last day.
[35:24] Speaker 2: Don't you take a chance with your account. We need
[35:32] Speaker 2: to stop failing and start succeeding. We need leaders emerging
[35:39] Speaker 2: in this century, and hopefully a twilt can't help in
[35:42] Speaker 2: some small way to produce a crop of leaders who
[35:46] Speaker 2: the world will be shocked over. Who are these people?
[35:51] Speaker 2: Where did they come from? They are faithful to their spouses,
[35:55] Speaker 2: They don't steal, they don't lie, they don't corrupt themselves.
[35:58] Speaker 2: They would rather go to prison, they would rather lose friends,
[36:01] Speaker 2: They would rather even lose.
[36:03] Speaker 3: The church.
[36:05] Speaker 2: For the sake of their convictions. Oh give us these leaders,
[36:08] Speaker 2: oh God.
[36:16] Speaker 3: Reader, for me go.
[36:18] Speaker 2: The leader who has failed cannot expect the account to
[36:23] Speaker 2: be re established as a result of his remorse, confession,
[36:28] Speaker 2: or repentance. None of these restore the account. I'm sure
[36:36] Speaker 2: you've seen the great leaders stand on TV tears running
[36:39] Speaker 2: down their faces. Give me listen. The account is gone.
[36:45] Speaker 2: Though we appreciate your tears. We love you, hallelujah. But
[36:50] Speaker 2: go home, Go get restored, Go get repaired. When your
[36:57] Speaker 2: car breaks down, you don't leave it in the highway.
[37:02] Speaker 2: Why it can cause accidents. Get off the road, go
[37:08] Speaker 2: to the mechanic, Get out of the pulpit, Get out
[37:18] Speaker 2: of the CEO position, Get.
[37:19] Speaker 3: Out of the office. Get out.
[37:23] Speaker 2: You're blocking the highway of people who are trying to
[37:26] Speaker 2: make a difference.
[37:33] Speaker 3: Write this down. Please.
[37:35] Speaker 2: It may take longer to restore the account than it
[37:39] Speaker 2: originally took to build it, so protect the account. The
[37:45] Speaker 2: work is too hard to restore. So let's talk about
[37:50] Speaker 2: falling up before we close. Falling up how to fail
[37:54] Speaker 2: successfully as a paradox how to fail successfully.
[37:59] Speaker 3: There's a way to do it, and that's why I
[38:01] Speaker 3: have it in the book. Please get that book.
[38:03] Speaker 2: And buy ten copies and give it to all your leaders.
[38:06] Speaker 2: I'm telling you so that thinking. First of all, you
[38:08] Speaker 2: need to put the fear.
[38:09] Speaker 3: Back in them.
[38:12] Speaker 2: The first can I give you a little secret you
[38:16] Speaker 2: want to hear it. I discovered God's first criteria for leadership,
[38:19] Speaker 2: the first one. Everywhere God chose the leader, he gave
[38:26] Speaker 2: a criteria, a list of them, but the first one
[38:29] Speaker 2: was always fear. Did you know that the first criteria
[38:35] Speaker 2: of leadership is fear?
[38:37] Speaker 3: He's a choose one who fears God.
[38:42] Speaker 2: I don't care about his personality, academic achievement, his skills,
[38:46] Speaker 2: his power to speak communication, He said, forget it. If
[38:49] Speaker 2: he doesn't fear, his character will destroy not just him,
[38:55] Speaker 2: but the organization.
[38:59] Speaker 3: You must be afraid, don't ever trust yourself.
[39:04] Speaker 2: That's why you need accountability networks around you.
[39:08] Speaker 3: That's why a twiler is here.
[39:09] Speaker 2: You know, our guys on our team will tell you
[39:12] Speaker 2: we are very nice people, but we don't put up
[39:16] Speaker 2: with foolishness.
[39:21] Speaker 3: We will call you out. You know their trustes in.
[39:24] Speaker 2: This room who will tell you their wife called me
[39:26] Speaker 2: and say my husband.
[39:28] Speaker 3: Needs input right now.
[39:35] Speaker 2: And I called them up and said, look, brother, get
[39:37] Speaker 2: you act together. You want to be a part of
[39:39] Speaker 2: this circle. We are your examples. The wounds of a
[39:50] Speaker 2: friend are faithful enemies protect your faults. You call them friends.
[40:10] Speaker 2: A friend doesn't protect your fault, They expose it. They
[40:13] Speaker 2: tell you you got to fix this. Why because you're
[40:17] Speaker 2: affecting all of us. When you fail, you close the account.
[40:30] Speaker 2: Leaders protect the trust account with their character. Now I
[40:34] Speaker 2: want you to look at this guy. This is the
[40:37] Speaker 2: image of someone who.
[40:42] Speaker 3: Has fallen. What do I do?
[40:45] Speaker 2: What is the process of getting back? I'm going to
[40:48] Speaker 2: give you the list. Write it down. Here's what to
[40:51] Speaker 2: do if your character fails. These are the steps you
[40:55] Speaker 2: should take. They are fail proof, but you got to
[40:59] Speaker 2: follow them, and they are hardy.
[41:06] Speaker 3: This is why most of the leaders who felt don't
[41:08] Speaker 3: want to do them.
[41:10] Speaker 2: But if you follow them, you'll come back stronger than
[41:13] Speaker 2: when you fell. What do you do when you fall?
[41:18] Speaker 2: Number One?
[41:21] Speaker 3: Admission of your need for help? That's tough.
[41:34] Speaker 2: On the news last night, they asked the mayor of
[41:37] Speaker 2: Toronto do you matter if I check it?
[41:39] Speaker 3: Go on internet?
[41:40] Speaker 2: They said, do you believe you are a drug addict?
[41:43] Speaker 2: Absolutely no. Do you believe you have problems with alcohol?
[41:49] Speaker 2: Absolutely no. Do you believe you need help? Absolutely no?
[41:54] Speaker 2: I said, this guy is over. I heard such great
[42:04] Speaker 2: teaching here this week. I am so inspired. And someone
[42:13] Speaker 2: said this week I wrote it down. It was Sister Josephine.
[42:18] Speaker 2: She said, if the person on the ground keeps their
[42:23] Speaker 2: hand to themselves, you can't help them. To reach your
[42:31] Speaker 2: handle to somebody who refused to take it, you can't
[42:37] Speaker 2: help them. Restoration does not begin with the restorer.
[42:47] Speaker 3: Like that. Damn stop asking people why didn't you come
[42:52] Speaker 3: help me? This is not about me. I didn't fall.
[43:04] Speaker 2: You can't help a man who doesn't want it, or
[43:08] Speaker 2: worse still, who doesn't think he needs it. I know
[43:16] Speaker 2: your mind is on people right now. I know you
[43:18] Speaker 2: think it's some of them right now. I know you know,
[43:20] Speaker 2: and you know what I'm saying.
[43:20] Speaker 3: It's true.
[43:21] Speaker 2: They keep on trucking as if nothing happened. That's why
[43:27] Speaker 2: you should abandoned them. Paul the Apostle says, leave them.
[43:31] Speaker 2: He says, get rid of them, don't associate with them anymore.
[43:34] Speaker 3: He said, leave them, He says, remove them from among
[43:40] Speaker 3: your company. Wow, that's tough. I supposed to love. Yeah,
[43:45] Speaker 3: I love you so.
[43:46] Speaker 2: Much to keep you in this organization to infected.
[43:52] Speaker 3: You are an infection Number two.
[44:00] Speaker 2: Fashion of your violation of the trust you must confess
[44:06] Speaker 2: that you violated the trust. I learned a lesson.
[44:12] Speaker 3: That stuck in my head. Nineteen seventy five.
[44:15] Speaker 2: I was at all ROMs University as missions director, young guy,
[44:21] Speaker 2: and I was respondible for sending the students out, and
[44:28] Speaker 2: myself and my colleague Gary McIntosh, who was pastor today,
[44:35] Speaker 2: we were kind of working together and the students would
[44:39] Speaker 2: put their monies in for the trips every summer, and
[44:43] Speaker 2: we were respondible for accounting for those monies. And I
[44:48] Speaker 2: made a mistake in the accounting and the money didn't
[44:52] Speaker 2: add up.
[44:55] Speaker 3: I was so distraught.
[44:56] Speaker 2: I didn't know what to do. Boss Leslie was in.
[45:02] Speaker 2: Leslie worked with me. Leslie did. Our boss was Bob Stamps.
[45:05] Speaker 2: He was the chaplain and I had to report to
[45:09] Speaker 2: him and I said, Sir, I don't know what happened,
[45:10] Speaker 2: and he just lost it. He said, what do you mean?
[45:14] Speaker 2: This is the kid's moneys. You are about to put
[45:19] Speaker 2: me in problems and he shouted at me. He said
[45:28] Speaker 2: go and fix it. And I began to explain why
[45:35] Speaker 2: I did or what happened he taught me and he
[45:39] Speaker 2: said shut up and fix it. And then he said
[45:43] Speaker 2: these words don't ever justify why you did.
[45:47] Speaker 3: Something wrong that was you know, that's deep nineteen seventy five.
[45:55] Speaker 3: I can stand here his voice. He says, if you
[45:57] Speaker 3: attempt to justify it, you are not. So you did it.
[46:03] Speaker 2: Why you are explaining why it happened, which means you
[46:07] Speaker 2: justified wrong. There's no justification for wrong. I walked out
[46:17] Speaker 2: of his office, went back to my doom. I cried
[46:19] Speaker 2: the whole day. I didn't go to class. I was
[46:21] Speaker 2: messed up. That was seventy five. I am standing here
[46:25] Speaker 2: over thirty years later, and it's still in my spirit.
[46:29] Speaker 3: He taught me a lesson of integrity. When you fail,
[46:34] Speaker 3: don't explain why.
[46:37] Speaker 2: That's the point. Just confess it and admit it. Take
[46:42] Speaker 2: responsibility for it. Don't explain why you sinned. Maybe that's
[46:57] Speaker 2: why David came back. You know, David said, God against you,
[47:03] Speaker 2: and only you have I said, I was born in iniquity,
[47:10] Speaker 2: shaped in it my sins always before me. I have sinned,
[47:17] Speaker 2: restored the bones that are broken, purge me.
[47:21] Speaker 3: It is a and he made it public. He wrote
[47:25] Speaker 3: it in a book. Would you write your disgrace in
[47:29] Speaker 3: a book?
[47:34] Speaker 2: I wonder why he came back and died with dignity.
[47:39] Speaker 3: And gave the world a great son named Solomon. Number three.
[47:49] Speaker 2: You must identify a true and reliable authority in your
[47:54] Speaker 2: life to be accountable to. That's tough. We heard that
[47:59] Speaker 2: all week. It's tough to find that person. These words
[48:04] Speaker 2: are very carefully written. A true unreliable, It's tough to find.
[48:11] Speaker 3: A true person. Genuine unreliable.
[48:16] Speaker 2: That means they themselves have a strong character that's been tested. Thirdly,
[48:21] Speaker 2: after that, you should completely submit to that authority without condition.
[48:30] Speaker 2: Oh boy, ladies and gentlemen, the authority that I'm talking
[48:36] Speaker 2: about is not your friend.
[48:41] Speaker 3: You know.
[48:41] Speaker 2: I may be friendly to you, but I am your friend.
[48:45] Speaker 2: If you tell me I'm your authority, I'm not your friend.
[48:49] Speaker 2: I'm friendly, but don't get carried away.
[48:55] Speaker 3: I will lay into you like a hawk. Don't put
[49:01] Speaker 3: no conditions on the submission. You know, I don't.
[49:08] Speaker 2: There's so many names floating in my head that I
[49:10] Speaker 2: know personally.
[49:11] Speaker 3: They say.
[49:11] Speaker 2: They say things like, yes, uh, I like to meet
[49:15] Speaker 2: with you, but uh uh, let's let's let's do.
[49:18] Speaker 3: It next month. I'm like who fell me? Or you?
[49:24] Speaker 3: I am available on Thursday? You submitted to me.
[49:30] Speaker 2: You find your way, fly, come by boat, train or
[49:34] Speaker 2: fly on a crane.
[49:35] Speaker 3: You come here Thursday. You are you got a problem
[49:38] Speaker 3: on me? Man?
[49:39] Speaker 2: You know I got some appointments to keep.
[49:42] Speaker 3: They say they gave me conditions. M Yeah.
[49:57] Speaker 2: Number five obedience to the advice and the counsel and
[50:03] Speaker 2: the instruction of that authority without condition.
[50:13] Speaker 3: This is tough.
[50:15] Speaker 2: So that means if they tell you I want you
[50:17] Speaker 2: to step down from your position for a year while
[50:21] Speaker 2: we help you be restored, you have to literally go
[50:24] Speaker 2: before the organization and say, look, my authority said I
[50:29] Speaker 2: must step down for a year. I am going to
[50:33] Speaker 2: see you next year. Sometimes they say you got to
[50:40] Speaker 2: sit down for two years. Sometimes they say it's over,
[50:48] Speaker 2: Go find yourself another job.
[50:51] Speaker 3: The damage is.
[50:52] Speaker 2: So great that you cannot come back to this specific position.
[50:59] Speaker 2: Are you willing to follow instruction to be restored? The
[51:07] Speaker 2: next one is even worse. Accept responsibility for all the failure,
[51:13] Speaker 2: and you must agree never to attempt to defend yourself
[51:20] Speaker 2: or your act of indiscretion. Don't ever stand up after
[51:28] Speaker 2: you have fallen and try to explain it to people.
[51:33] Speaker 2: I'm giving you some very important year because you are
[51:36] Speaker 2: disqualified to speak. You lost your authority. So what do
[51:46] Speaker 2: you do then? If you want the people to understand
[51:48] Speaker 2: what happened. It leads to number eight. You must allow
[51:51] Speaker 2: the authority to represent you.
[51:55] Speaker 3: To the greater community.
[51:57] Speaker 2: Let them speak on your behind, because they still have
[52:05] Speaker 2: authority with the people. You know, when Peter messed up,
[52:10] Speaker 2: Peter denied Jesus.
[52:11] Speaker 3: You remember that.
[52:12] Speaker 2: I could imagine the other eleven guys were excited. You know,
[52:15] Speaker 2: they finally got Peter. You know, maybe they got a
[52:18] Speaker 2: chance to become the favorite.
[52:21] Speaker 3: Did you read how Peter was restored?
[52:24] Speaker 2: Did you recognize who restored him? When there was a
[52:29] Speaker 2: meeting called the final board meeting, everyone was sure Peter
[52:34] Speaker 2: ain't com into this meeting, and if Peter had shown up,
[52:40] Speaker 2: they would attacked him. They would have attacked him. But
[52:44] Speaker 2: it was the skill of the leader. The leader said,
[52:50] Speaker 2: tell my students to meet me and make sure I say,
[52:55] Speaker 2: Peter come now. Once the authority caused the guy, it's over.
[53:05] Speaker 2: But we like to call ourselves back. We stand there
[53:13] Speaker 2: before the people explain to them, well, you know, yes
[53:15] Speaker 2: I did have some indiscretion.
[53:17] Speaker 3: Brother, leave.
[53:22] Speaker 2: Everybody's weak you know, shut up, you are just qualified
[53:27] Speaker 2: from speaking.
[53:30] Speaker 4: Everybody got weakness.
[53:31] Speaker 3: You know you are.
[53:32] Speaker 2: Disqualified from speaking. Your safety under failure is your authority?
[53:45] Speaker 2: What did I say? Please write this down. When you fall,
[53:52] Speaker 2: run for cover. Don't run for explanation, run for cover.
[54:03] Speaker 2: Shut your mouth. You are disqualified. This is why when
[54:11] Speaker 2: you go to God you cannot go in your own name.
[54:17] Speaker 2: You are disqualified.
[54:21] Speaker 3: So he said, don't ever go to the authority in
[54:24] Speaker 3: your name. Your name is no good. Oh man? Is
[54:38] Speaker 3: this good? Number ten? Sorry? Number nine? Total submission to.
[54:45] Speaker 2: The discretion of the authority with regard to your readiness
[54:50] Speaker 2: to return.
[54:50] Speaker 3: To public service. Now this one is important.
[54:53] Speaker 2: That means the authority has total control of the discretion
[55:00] Speaker 2: as do when it.
[55:01] Speaker 3: Thinks you are ready to come back. This is very dangerous.
[55:06] Speaker 3: I've seen people come as well.
[55:07] Speaker 2: You know, I went to counseling, and you know, I've
[55:09] Speaker 2: been never six months and you know, and and the
[55:11] Speaker 2: Lord told me to start again. Shut up, man, you
[55:14] Speaker 2: ain't never gonna come back. You can't bring yourself back.
[55:18] Speaker 2: Say it, Say it loud, no louder, I can't hear
[55:25] Speaker 2: you shout it. Don't you ever forget that you cannot
[55:30] Speaker 2: bring yourself back after the fall. The authority have to
[55:37] Speaker 2: bring you back, and the authority controls when that happens.
[55:44] Speaker 3: This is why people never come back. They just kind
[55:46] Speaker 3: of walk back. They're not sent back.
[55:51] Speaker 2: When the authority brings you back, then the followers respect
[55:57] Speaker 2: for the authority begins to.
[55:59] Speaker 3: Restore the trust the count.
[56:03] Speaker 2: Because the follower don't trust you anymore, they trust the authority.
[56:12] Speaker 2: You got to rebuild the trust, so they got to
[56:15] Speaker 2: trust the person who you trust, so they can establish
[56:20] Speaker 2: storing your account. In other words, the followers think, if
[56:25] Speaker 2: he trusts him again, then we will begin to trust
[56:30] Speaker 2: him again. Remember, you can't demand trust a right last one.
[56:42] Speaker 2: Permanent establishment of a relationship with the authority for ongoing
[56:49] Speaker 2: accountability is necessary. That means never again, for the rest
[56:53] Speaker 2: of your life will you be without accountability again. You
[56:59] Speaker 2: will have to report for the rest of your life
[57:03] Speaker 2: to an accountable authority that is to protect you and
[57:09] Speaker 2: the people you influence. That's how you come back. When
[57:19] Speaker 2: people don't trust you anymore, they trust the ones you trust.
[57:28] Speaker 3: And as long as the ones you trust trust you,
[57:31] Speaker 3: they will put trust in you.
[57:38] Speaker 2: That's why we can be trusted, you know, because God
[57:42] Speaker 2: trusts Jesus yea. He doesn't even want to know your
[57:49] Speaker 2: name because it might remind him of your past life.
[57:55] Speaker 2: So he said, keep using my son's name for the
[58:00] Speaker 2: rest of your life.
[58:10] Speaker 3: All right, closure, there you are. Do you feel it?
[58:17] Speaker 3: I feel it.
[58:18] Speaker 2: Don't you feel it?
[58:21] Speaker 3: Help me come back.
[58:25] Speaker 2: You can come back after a fall, but you got
[58:29] Speaker 2: to follow the instructions. The two books I want to
[58:36] Speaker 2: recommend to you, the new one and the last chapter
[58:40] Speaker 2: is about falling up.
[58:42] Speaker 3: Please read it and teach it to your staff.
[58:49] Speaker 2: Send it to people who messed up so they can
[58:53] Speaker 2: realize that they're not doing the right thing to repair
[58:58] Speaker 2: the damage. The second book is called Becoming a Leader.
[59:02] Speaker 2: I dealt with it in that book as well. I've
[59:06] Speaker 2: restored a few people, even folks in our own church
[59:10] Speaker 2: who fell same process, and it works. Saved marriages after
[59:17] Speaker 2: disaster because they went through the process.
[59:24] Speaker 3: I've had children who stood.
[59:25] Speaker 2: Before the congregation and said, I want to thank Pastor
[59:28] Speaker 2: Miles for allowing me to trust my father again. If
[59:34] Speaker 2: it wasn't for him, I would never trust my father again.
[59:37] Speaker 2: I've heard kids say that publicly in front of a congregation.
[59:42] Speaker 3: They followed the process. I know it's tough, but you
[59:49] Speaker 3: are damaged.
[59:54] Speaker 2: You need repair, not a band aid. Failure is not
[1:00:02] Speaker 2: determination of the leader's call. That's good news. Failure is
[1:00:08] Speaker 2: not determination of your assignment or even your gifts. You
[1:00:11] Speaker 2: still have your gifts. Your talents don't leave you in
[1:00:15] Speaker 2: a failure. Failure must be seen as a detour. It's
[1:00:20] Speaker 2: an interruption in your life. It's even an attempt to
[1:00:25] Speaker 2: cancel destiny. You can get back on course. Your destiny
[1:00:30] Speaker 2: is not canceled by failure. It's canceled by your inability
[1:00:34] Speaker 2: to deal with failure effectively.
[1:00:37] Speaker 3: So if you have.
[1:00:38] Speaker 2: Fallen down in life, character destroyed, it's time for you.
[1:00:45] Speaker 3: To fall up and seek restoration.
[1:00:50] Speaker 2: And this is why we are here this summit, not
[1:00:54] Speaker 2: just to teach you how to develop character, not just
[1:00:58] Speaker 2: to teach you how to protect it, but how to
[1:01:03] Speaker 2: restore it if you lose it, because there is life
[1:01:07] Speaker 2: after the fall.
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