# How to make AI companies pay your energy bill | Ari Matusiak

An episode of [TED Talks Daily](https://invisiblenetwork.ai/podcast/160904630), 18 Sep 2026, 15 min.

Audio: https://sphinx.acast.com/p/open/s/67587e77c705e441797aff96/e/6aabff67fa2bb1bafe272880/media.mp3

Climate expert Ari Matusiak spends his days working to rewire America's energy system, and he has an idea: instead of tech companies building new power plants for their AI data centers, they should invest in energy-efficient upgrades to your home. He lays out how this swap could lower your power bill, reduce the strain on the grid and help communities reclaim control over the thing tech companies need most — power. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

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