# Is There Math Beyond the Equal Sign?

An episode of [The Joy of Why](https://invisiblenetwork.ai/podcast/1608948873), 22 Mar 2023, 50 min.

Audio: https://dts.podtrac.com/redirect.mp3/tracking.swap.fm/track/sblTq32fyWAjsHzze2LG/dovetail.prxu.org/5340/0347fb74-a487-4e61-b0a5-c6e73510be42/Category-Theory_CHENG_MASTER_2232023-16LUFS.mp3

Can mathematics handle things that are essentially the same without being exactly equal? Category theorist Eugenia Cheng and host Steven Strogatz discuss the power and pleasures of abstraction. The post Is There Math Beyond the Equal Sign? first appeared on Quanta Magazine

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